FELLAS, IS IT GAY TO LOVE? Ft. Lucy Dacus | Episode 219
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1 hour and 39 minutes
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Summary
In this episode of Comment Section, we're joined by the icon, the legend, and the living legend, Lucy Dacus. We talk about all things lesbian, including what it means to be a lesbian in the 21st century, and why you should smile more.
Transcript
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Capitalism is evil and crushing and soulless and awful, and that's why when I think about
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for-profit healthcare, it truly makes me want a Mangione.
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Hey, everyone, and welcome back to another episode of The Comment Section Show.
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starring me your fave everybody knows me who cares about me on to the guest today we have
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the icon the legend lesbians let me fucking hear you lucy dacus
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wow so everyone's lesbian oh yeah yes for the most part yes cool most yeah for the most part
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yes even when i told chapel i was like everyone that works for for me and with me is gay she's
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like i can tell yeah i think everyone is really hoping that's an arc for you i know but don't
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worry about it you know what is love it love is love yeah love is i'm so glad you guys could
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support me yeah and my heteronormativity like literally this episode is presented by sephora
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so what are you getting your mom this mother's day it's hard to find something that says hey mom
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i think you're amazing and thank you for everything right because flowers that turn
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i know i told a couple people i was like oh yeah i'm gonna have uh lucy aunt my sister who is a
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lesbian i do bring her up all the time she's been a big fan of yours forever but i was like
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i have climbed the top of lesbian mountain now that i've had you i'm at the top you're at the
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very top you're on the mount rushmore i'm lonely at the top but you're an icon and a living legend
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i'm happy and honored to have you thank you likewise and we have met before we did like a
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year ago yes at the elton john party yes and that was such a strange environment it very was i really
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enjoyed it i had a blast i got absolutely trashed at that you did yeah at that party i didn't notice
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that well it was a little bit after i talked i like to leave early oh yeah yeah i was like i've
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seen what i need to see yeah you're like well i'm done here yeah i appreciate that about you i had
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a heart-to-heart with machine gun kelly and yeah that's exactly what i was gonna bring up because
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i distinctly remember you telling me about your heartfelt moment with mgk and well only because
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he walked by and said bye to you and you were like hey smile more and then you walked away and
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It's true, like, I was like, what's this guy's deal?
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I feel like there's a lot of like, he seems very serious.
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He did, yeah, he ultimately wasn't having a great day,
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mountain yes also in lesbian mountain along with the other two we just like kind of heard him out
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and like just got real that's the thing is if you leave your house and you have your heart open
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anything can happen the possibilities are endless possibilities are endless but i was like
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like my guy if you smile the people would have a harder time like it's true making fun if you're
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in on the joke like yeah people will think that your whole life is different right not to be
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a man on the street like smile no but honestly there is something truly beautiful and poetic
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about a lesbian telling a man a straight man you need to smile more that's gonna speak to them i
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that makes my but also like scientifically like really helps you like i agree when you smile it
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tells your brain the endorphins yeah i'm not a scientist it's all about the the like motions of
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it sometimes you gotta fake it so you make it yes i agree with that yeah especially about like maybe
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he has been smiling a little bit more i don't know all thanks to you yeah what can't you do
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you could do so much it's you got so much already but you are truly a living legend i'm genuinely
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so honored to have you it's true i believe it okay i believe it to be true but also i do want
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to know how you're feeling lately how's life going for you lately i feel good it's nice to be home
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i was just on tour for a long time just moved recently like very excited me too hanging out
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with my dog do you have pets yes i have two dogs oh what kind of dog do you have i have like a hound
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mutt like crazy girly oh cute what dogs do you have i have two frenchies derogatory i know but
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like i did adopt them and one of them is completely deaf do you have photos or do we do this later of
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course i do it's my show we can do whatever we want here this is them oh yeah this one's my
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deaf one his name's tuna and this is squid no i know their names are a huge hit every time i tell
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people their names they love them squid yeah and i got squid first so he's the oldest and then we
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adopted tuna um and he's completely deaf so like he couldn't like put him with a the guy i adopted
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him from actually said he tried to take him to like a rescue because he like couldn't have him
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anymore and then um they said like they didn't have any room but they said please don't take
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him to a shelter because they'll put him down because he's deaf and so he listed him on like
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a find your pet thing and so that's how i found him i feel emotional i was gonna say you look
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emotional i'm like shaking i have like whatever baby pier is for dogs me too i think we're gonna
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get another dog yes soon do you have like a lady came up to us on the street and was like could
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you take a dog and we were like maybe yeah and we like got her number oh nice did she say what kind
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dog uh it looks like scooby-doo that's what we know like a marmaduke yeah so we'll see if that
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works out but big dog yeah i'm open to a dog walking into my life oh my god yeah you're like
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the universe it's like the what do they call it when people have like cats and they're like oh if
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you're nice to the universe the cat exchange principle or whatever will like give it back to
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you the cat is nice to you if you're nice there's just like this idea that like if you're open to
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the universe you may find a stray cat that loves you and is really cute and that's what is it cat
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distribution system that's what it is distribution system yes that one wow but i believe that about
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dogs too but i can't i'm i think i'm capped at the two just because because they are frenchies
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they are allergic to everything and oh no it is taxing i would say i can't get over that i know
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they're they're unbelievably cute here let me see and squid recently um started getting alopecia
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don't know what that says god doesn't give with both hands i'm sorry you can laugh why is it why
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they pick such a funny word for that well he has dog alopecia so it's honestly only on his butt
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which is even funnier he just but alopecia yeah but alopecia if you can believe it my special boy
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and he is very annoying but he is also the best this is beans beans oh my gosh my mom has a dog
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named beans really cute yeah there's there's there's cuter photos those are just the first
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one she looks beautiful she's so um communicative oh really she'll look at me like and i know
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exactly what's going on she'll she'll like look at you and make eye contact and like stamp her
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feet on the ground yeah i'm like what do you need she tells us what she needs and i know i talk i
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talked to both my dogs even though one of them can't hear me i still i still yeah i'm saying
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the energy is flowing through me to him but i literally had like a nervous breakdown crying
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randomly the other day because i was on my period but also because i was thinking about my dog tuna
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who's deaf and he used to not really like being pet on the head or like kissed on the head because
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it's like overstimulating to him i think because he can't hear yeah so he likes to like see all the
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time and but lately like i would say the last like year he's been really open to like kisses
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on the head and the face but now he closes his eyes which means he trusts me i'm gonna make
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myself cry i'm gonna make myself cry i'm making me and lucy cry it's so it's so beautiful and
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then i think about how how pure like a dog's love is it truly moves me like i'm like i can't i can't
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do it my therapist was recently trying to compare me and my dad like i was like talking about this
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is way too deep why the camera should have just asked you for dinner i had a feeling this is
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gonna happen um but like i was talking about how sometimes it feels like if i have needs it's like
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a detriment to my relationships and then people are gonna leave me if i have needs and then i feel
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like what about your dog your dog has needs and it's simple that your dog has needs i can't think
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about that i'll start crying and i gotta chill but then i was like people do think she has bad
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behavior and it does alienate some people and my therapist is like let's back up let's find a
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different that's how i feel yeah because she is losing friends for being just really ripped and
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uh friendly and so she hurts people not like biting but she'll she'll try to put her tongue
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in your mouth and she'll literally push you into a seated position so that she can stand on you
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that's crazy you say that because my first dog squid when i had him he had like a a lot of energy
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like frenchies generally have a lot of energy but he just loves to play and he loves people he loves
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dogs he loves everyone so like it was a lot like because he's like go like going crazy and so like
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we trained him like we he's very trained and he's a very good boy he doesn't bark he doesn't chew
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things up nothing but he was just kind of annoying because he's a lot like a lot like it jumps on
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people too yeah and my dog tuna it worked out because i was like i need to get him a friend
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because and that's probably like you need to get her friend yeah because it really did regulate
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him like having another buddy but because tuna is completely deaf like he doesn't get overstimulated
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when he plays with him because that was the whole thing with dogs like he's just making so much
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noise that they would like snap at him and then run away that's so perfect i know so now he's
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completely deaf so he doesn't care like all he can make all the noise he wants and it doesn't
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bother him and also tuna loves to stand on people that's his favorite thing i i have no clue but
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he's like a billy goat like he'll literally stand like on my sternum yeah and he's 30 pounds do they
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want eye contact yeah yeah and he's like like breathing in my face like this close did you
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know that dogs didn't have eyebrows until recently what yes like the bone or like just
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expressions so they are using their eyebrows to communicate with us they are copying humans
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i'm so glad you gave me that piece of information wild and like when i now look at
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dogs eyebrows and they're very active i'm like you are doing your best human impression you're
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trying to do our emotions and also like like beans is like julian's dog and so i'm like you
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are doing julian's faces right now oh my god i can't think about that yeah
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i'm getting married this year and you are i am in august thank you do you want to come
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that's so i love weddings oh i i yeah i'm like so cool i am i'm getting married this summer
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um which i'm excited about but it is killing me that i can't bring my dogs why can't you i'm
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having a destination wedding and where i'm going when i fly them they have to be quarantined for
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like two three weeks and like they they're bonded to each other i can't like separate them from me
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from each other plus flying frenchies is like so tricky but like yeah but i'm i'm very like
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devastated at the thought of it but they've been with us from the very beginning so like we got
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squid i think like a couple years into being together like three or four years yeah i would
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say y'all are so cute together by the way thank you do this every day or wait what do you hear
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this every day i don't know if i'm like covering like much trodden ground yeah no no i mean like
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i do get that a lot yes but i i think it's a beautiful thing i'll take it every time to be
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honest with you god thank you i think the two of you are really beautiful together as well
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beautiful couples i love when hot people date hot people so fun it's the best yeah it's like a
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two plus two equals 13 no i know and i think too like the because of my heteronormativity
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um my my man is like obviously very good looking but he's also very genuinely nice and i think
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that's like when people meet him they're like damn that's for real like that sucks and i was
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like well yeah you should know that because he's with me yeah you should know that he's a good guy
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because he's with me especially you're not gonna be i got i run a real strict program yeah with
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men especially no scrubs yeah yeah exactly and that's why i think even sometimes now like uh my
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fans too will like you said earlier like they're hoping for a lesbian arc for me and i was like
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it's a compliment right i don't have to do it it's the highest of compliments trust me you don't do
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anything you don't feel comfortable yeah just don't don't don't don't feel pressured and you
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what's funny is like i've said before like i in college i i for real thought like maybe i am gay
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like i had that conscious thought i was like maybe i am gay because i hated men even more then than i
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do now and even now it hasn't lessened necessarily i think i just i took a lot of my anger out of it
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now i've learned to laugh at it a lot more and like move past it yeah when i was younger i was
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like all the time i just felt like constantly angry so i was like maybe i just maybe i'm not
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attracted to them so i did sample with women and it just didn't take yeah i tried i was like let
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me try and like see and it just didn't take one of my favorite archetypes is a straight man that
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had a bunch of gay sex it was like not for me
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it's a it's a rare thing but i've met these people and i'm like that's how they find out
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they're straight it's like the reverse yeah they were open to it i'm like that is you must be very
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open yeah i was like that's that's amazing yeah yeah i believe that's also what you said you've
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done so that's based and cool right and i think too that's why um i think it's my and everything
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about me sometimes my lesbian friends i've joked about this on the show before they'll be like
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talking to me and then in the middle of conversation they'll be like i forget i
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forgot you're straight that sucks they're like that sucks i'm like i know but at least i'm not
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It's all truly, just frankly, I know it sounds like woo woo,
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but there's no archetype better than actual love.
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that I'm a straightie, so I am a guest in the house
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Cause like one time I saw this video of this girl and she was like crying
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cause she was realizing that her and one other girl are the only straight
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people in their group and everybody else is a lesbian.
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And she was like, no, I'm now I'm thinking like they,
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but I'm the lame one in this group cause I'm straight.
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And I was, uh, it was really funny video, but I commented on it.
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And I was like, honestly, me too. Wear it with pride.
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Lesbians are extremely picky. If you're in, you're in.
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so like they're they're very picky with straight girls yeah because straight girls can be annoying
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and i know that as a straight girl i can say that as a straight girl i wonder if i was the
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annoying straight friend before i don't think so you don't think so i don't think so only because
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you're true to this in lesbianism so i feel like it's always been a piece of you so maybe that
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kept the annoying at bay i know i was annoying but that's because i'm a straightie so i was like
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i knew i was annoying when i was younger and then i grew out of it thank god now i'm annoying for
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good like i'm annoying for good you're using powers yeah i'm using my powers for good yeah
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my evil i use against men that's also for good what is your evil what i mean to them okay yeah
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when i like roast them and make fun of them and yeah tell them like they're awful and terrible
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it's just kind of my thing yeah i think i think that was another reason why two people were like
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oh then she's either straight or gay and i was like no i'm not i am straight i'm not gay but
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i'm definitely not single either so that's kind of a bummer for them interesting that was always
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their gotcha on me men okay they're always like oh you're probably single wrong well your man's
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probably ugly wrong wrong you're gonna really hate the rest of the answers to the questions
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oh my god i mean i i probably hate men less than you i feel like you have enough friends
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especially like friends who are trans men yeah you're like you're just like i want to love
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the man that you're becoming and then like i agree people's interest in masculinity
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i love masculinity i agree yeah well and i think about masculinity too and femininity
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i always remind myself too and i remind people all the time that like gender is so not real
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like gender is such a social construct yeah so like releasing it and all that comes with it
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is like such a freedom to give yourself like yeah and i actually saw one of my girlfriends
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post a video recently where she said like you'll never know true freedom as a woman until you
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make peace with being found like to being thought of as a bitch or ugly or undesirable
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my birth mother told me this really she's like just wait you're gonna get to be an age where
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you become invisible right you are gonna experience freedom and you're gonna finally
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get to know yourself i just got chills isn't that wild that is crazy dropping heat all the time
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she said this other thing which i repeat every chance i can get where she was like when i was
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i think 50 i found anger like it was under the bed and i was angry because i had needed it my
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whole life damn that shit's in your bloodline then girl yeah your your your uh artistry is in
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your bloodline it sounds like yeah i'm not very good at being angry like i'm probably the angriest
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i ever am in music like i i have a goal to like get more i mean i'm angry about a lot
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right there's you could pick any old yeah for real you just look in a direction and there's
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something to be angry about yeah i agree but yeah i want to get i want to get angrier yeah
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i mean that's good i need to i i feel like for me too i've talked a lot about anger as an emotion
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like because i think the way i blew up on social and stuff and like the the very specific niche
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that i carved out um it's always when i would do interviews they'd be like oh have you always been
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this way like or something terrible happened or they'll be like what is this way yeah like yeah
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this way exactly funny yeah i'm assuming it's like hating men which i like i say hating men
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and it's very like nothing burger statement to me when I say I hate men because I don't think
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about them ever so like I never consider them I don't care about them like hate I guess is like
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too strong of a word but like yeah but I can hate them they're very so cold right yeah amazing
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yeah I was like what's worse like anger indifference like I feel so indifferent towards
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them um in so many ways in the fact that I just don't factor them ever and so like I I feel like
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when i would talk about it i'd say like i think a lot of reason why women and other people especially
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have found like community with me is because i've like validated the choice to be angry yeah like to
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to be upset about it like and however that manifests is really up to you for me it's it's
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like when i'm disrespected or attacked then i'm going to disrespect you back and then we're just
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going to call it even like that's how i've always responded to disrespect and i think that's why
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people have found like community in my in my content and stuff because it's like it's okay
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if you're upset like it's okay if it annoys you it's okay if you want to be mean back that's okay
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it's also everyone's dream to like have a clap back for the ages right like it's every like
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you're clever and so like watching you be able to be like oh i can hand it back everyone wants
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to hand it back but it's sometimes so shocking in the moment right especially after like if you
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have a lifetime of being disrespected is like oh oh i'm having my familiar feeling and um okay the
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seconds have passed and everyone's moved on and you don't get to have that like right immediate
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like retribution and absolutely so it's very fun to watch well and it's also i think also too it's
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like indicative of how women especially but anyone who's not a straight cis man has been conditioned
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which is like to to give pause so it's like well i have to be careful what i say because what if
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what i say is offensive or what if what if what i say hurts them but men never think that way like
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men think things and say them they don't they don't have pause they don't have like
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how is this going to make everybody in the room feel only only women and other people have that
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like that they they're we're like i've i've said before like men are used to being considered
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and women are used to considering others so it's like we're like conditioned that way from the jump
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like to to think of everyone how is this going to affect everyone how's this going to make everyone
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feel yeah including perpetrators like including people who are actively pushing harm on us we're
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thinking like well i don't you know that's where that high road shit comes from oh i like to take
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the high road oh you should take the high road what is the high road yeah and why is it only
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populated by women and gay people yeah why are we the only ones up there where are all the men how
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come they never got are we building houses on the high yeah why are we doing that and everything
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fucking else at the same time and i think i've talked about that too in regards to like responding
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to hate because sometimes when men say awful shit about me means nothing to me and then when i say
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awful shit back they get offended like which is hilarious to me yeah and everyone else on the
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internet but it's also hilarious because the problem is not it is what i said but it's more
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so the fact that it it doesn't bother me what they said so they they're like i would never fuck you
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neither would i cool yeah yeah well then i think then at that point i'm like well we have a lot in
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common then because i wouldn't fuck you either so we're just two ugly bitches yelling at each
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other is that what we're doing we're sitting here roasting each other like what's the point
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maybe we should be friends yeah we shouldn't but i i think that all the time yeah yeah i was like
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we have a lot of goals like similar yeah but it's it doesn't they're they think to themselves like
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i don't want to fuck you but like i can't believe you don't want me to fuck you also like what made
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you think that right you were thinking about it you jumped somewhere yeah yeah you were already
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there and then my personality was too good for you a little too much you demoted yourself right
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just now by saying that yeah but when I yeah tell them tell them I'm telling you I I feel like
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that's like in my head it's always been extremely simple to me like that concept but when I started
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doing this for a living I really found out really quickly that is not very common like that kind of
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belief and i think this is like kind of a weird jump but not and we can cut this if you don't
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want to but like the the whole chapel discourse recently has been pissing me off oh the way people
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are treating her but either way up right right for real for real like i i i agree yeah yeah but
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also i i was like you guys don't care because i saw some some women saying like well you could
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have just come on here and apologize for what like again for what right but again it's why
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why do you pedestalize women like that you women are forced to apologize for things they didn't do
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they weren't there for they didn't see because you think they should so the problem is not what
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happened the problem you have is that she's not sorry and doesn't care that you want her to be
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sorry for whatever the fuck it is yeah i was like that's the part you're struggling with you're
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struggling with the fact that she doesn't care like she doesn't care how you personally feel
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towards how she feels because how she feels is how she feels and I was like it's very okay it's
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okay for women to be like uh I'm sorry that happened I didn't do anything though yeah it's
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okay for women to do that it's all right like I've trust me I've done it many times yeah like I've
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had I've had men say terrible things that I've done to others which I'm like no I haven't and
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they're like well you said something mean well see now we're having a different conversation yeah
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you want me to blanket apologize for anything ever why yeah and do men ever do that and i also
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think when they start holding famous men to that level of standard then i'll start entertaining it
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as soon as they interesting right as soon as you start holding men to that level of care
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you let me know you know it's like dark is i think some people wish they were being stalked
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i think some people think it's romantic some people like or it's awesome they think like oh
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it's so cool to have people flooding your you should be grateful that people are yeah uh clamoring
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for your personal life and it's like actually no and not a single one of you would enjoy this and
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if you did you are more sick than the people right i've said that for so oh my god if you think that
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this is enjoyable or worth invitation like that is an illness that what was sold to you
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to believe that right it's either deep deep deep deep ignorance or deep psychosis or like just
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insecurity like do you need a thousand people to scream love at you right feel loved like
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it's really that's not what life is about like that is not it's true I and you know I did a
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college talk recently and a girl asked me one of the questions at the end she was like
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you know um you know you're really successful creator and like you started doing other stuff
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as someone who wants to do that like do you have any advice for us or like for preparation whatever
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and i was like i'm assuming you mean being an influencer right which i'm like you should not
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aspire to that oh my god oh my god stay in school i literally told her i said first of all don't
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aspire to that second of all stay in school i was like but third like i i really want to encourage
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those of you who like think when you see like whether it's influencer or someone like you
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someone like chapel anyone famous right in any part of hollywood if you see that and you're like
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that looks awesome i want to do that i really want you to understand like what you sacrifice
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to get it like and i said like i don't believe the illuminati is real but the exchange that
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they describe in the illuminati where you have to sell your soul in order to get it right fame
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money whatever it is there is a sacrifice there is something you give up in order to get this
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and it's sometimes not worth it and i was like and i didn't know that like i didn't know that
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i had no way of fucking knowing that that would happen to me because like i'm speaking of therapy
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i joined therapy when i started doing this thank god because i had the money in therapy like it's
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join the army i enlisted in therapy i enlisted into the therapy that's my kind of conscription
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that's what I'm talking about yes um and I it's because I had the money so I was like hell yeah
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I want to go to therapy I had no way of knowing how much I was going to talk about like how hard
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this is and not like the work itself is obviously hard and a lot but it's like being perceived at
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that level and being ripped apart and dissected many other ways and being followed being asked
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for pictures in public being bothered in public like I had no way of knowing yeah that that was
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how that was going to make me feel and i was like recently telling her that like i would say a couple
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months ago that i feel like i started developing agoraphobia yeah because i'm like every time i
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leave it's like oh my god what are you doing here oh my god can i have a picture oh my god what are
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you buying do you live around here yeah and it's overwhelming well here's part of the reason why
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is whoever is in there thinks they're hanging out with us you're right like they think and you're
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talking like how they would want to listen to their friend but with no reciprocal right like
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you're you're probably so cool whoever you are for being here and if we really got lunch we'd
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probably all enjoy each other's company right but you're not here right we're not your friends
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and like it's true like love love but like i i i mean i've seen this show and i'll be like this
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in my bed i'm not participating right but i'll get the whiff of friendship with whoever you're
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talking right and i think there must be like again we need a scientist on the case because
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if this is replacing socially people's actual real life relationships to other people like
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this this is not gonna cut it for you no overall oh my god no the parasocial relationship yeah
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and you're right because it's like younger generations covid didn't help either but it's
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really like killed like in-person connection and like yeah and then because it feels so close and
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because of social media and you feel like you have windows into people's lives you feel like
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you know them and you feel like you can talk to them however you want the way that people approach
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me sometimes sometimes like one time my sister and i did like uh we were on tour a couple years
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ago to promote my book and we were on a comedy tour and we did meet and greets at every stop
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and one of them was this girl walked up to us and she goes what's up you fucking bitches
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i said oh i said i'm so glad i wasn't drinking tea when you said that like
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and every time i tell my friends they're like oh and i'm like right right out the gate like
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looking at me in the eyes what's up you fucking bitches hey what's your name nice to meet you
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you fucking bitch like is that what you say that like is that the desired response i have no i have
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no clue the amount of women even like if i go to like something like a coachella if i go to like
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something where people are drunk like that's probably the worst and they'll come up and
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they'll be like this fucking bitch yeah that's fucking but they always call me a bitch i don't
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I don't know, hey, I don't know what that is.
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Like I use the vernacular and bitch is a genderless term
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It has, because of the access, like through social media,
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And I genuinely never thought that I would be so, like, sick to my stomach to go in public.
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But I just really never thought that I would ever be someone who needed something like that in that capacity.
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And I think it's because I also had an ignorance about, I think, celebrity culture.
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Because when I was younger, I was, like, a fangirl, too, of, like, I was a big Jonas Brothers girl.
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it was funny because my first fangirl Ashley was here to talk to you man we could key down about
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the Jonas Brothers yes the first my first phase though fangirl was with uh My Chemical Romance
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so that was my first that's a really beautiful hallowed hall the fandom yeah I think people
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who've ever loved MCR yeah are the best people I'm telling you all my friends who are like still
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going to the MCR shows are a little dark angels right for real my sister and I like that was my
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very first concert was the black parade when i was 10 which is crazy that really shapes a guy
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collection by calvin klein what was your first concert well does church count
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hmm i'll let you decide okay i went to a ton of like giant i saw zoe girl i saw
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oh nice um three days grace oh fun um let me so the first concert i went to with my friends
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without my parents was jack's mannequin opening for the fray oh okay sat in the parking lot and
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we went to our seats and we all belabored our outfits for like three months and we were all
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wearing i'm pretty sure a knitted beanie and a different color flannel shirt over a camisole
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oh of course um but yeah jacks mannequin those songs if i hear that it's gonna it's takes you
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back yeah i'm i'm singing in a destructive way to my vocal cords i'm singing in a way that uh
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jeopardizes my job yeah that's so fun what's been a really fun concert you've been to recently or
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really awesome one saw mitski last night she's amazing and it was so cool because like i have
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been seeing her since she was playing like 100 cap venues no way this show of course you're on
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the ground floor of mitski yeah of course you are yeah she's a friend she's like yeah she's a legend
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and she is yeah hell yeah um but this show was the most similar to how she started i think like
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very rock and like loose and she's playing a hollywood high school for a week um but what else
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you got a lot going on i want to talk more about music with you okay can you tell me what you got
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going on right now coming up yes i have one song and it's called planting tomatoes literally just
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one okay did you hear it no i haven't i should like play it off my phone you can if yeah okay
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yeah well no leaks here i wish that you'd heard it yeah um it's about how life is short and how
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do you go through the day knowing that it will end and that it will end for everyone that you
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love so you're like this you're just like it's so cute but it it's like about how it is cute the
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the melody is very cute yeah it's it's fun and it's like about having little ideas that like
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your need to execute your ideas is a reason to stay alive uh and just like it's a little bit
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about reflecting on i'm like older now than some people that i have lost and um that's really odd
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and sometimes it can feel like how dare I have a good day and then other days I'm like
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that's the best thing I can do is have a good day yeah and like everyone who
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on my little pursuits that even if they don't matter they might so yeah might as well
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as long as as long as they matter to you yeah yeah like and that's so i i think that's beautiful
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and poignant which is honestly your mo for everything you put out is beautiful and poignant
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and so artistic but i i also think too it's especially imperative right now because the
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world is so scary and awful right now that like it almost like force well first of all that's why
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art is thriving unfortunately art is thriving i would say in the sense that people are putting
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out some of their best pieces of work who's somebody thriving right now hmm artistically
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bad bunny oh that loved him he was my top artist of 2025 yeah he's in my top i'll say chapel too
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why not yeah fuck it i don't care if that album's old i don't give a damn no yeah old also like
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like old in the history of time in the history of time no to people they're like um the album
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came out some music is evergreen yeah even like uh lady gaga's newest album i love i love i loved
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cowboy carter so i loved beyonce's latest album too there's just so many bangers being put out i
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feel like in a time of really tumultuous geopolitical conflict just generally it's
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awful right now yeah even moona moona putting out some bangers oh we love moona and i think
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your messaging behind the song is beautiful because it's like sometimes when things are
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really awful like we have no choice but to stay present and like to to try and enjoy life and
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like really enjoy things that matter like put more time and pour more into the things that we really
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love and that bring us joy there's like a part of it's so weird to say your own lyrics but
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like it's like you have to live the life you're fighting for like i think a lot of
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anyone's time could and should be spent working towards a world that they want to see yeah but
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i know so many friends in organizing they get burnt out yeah so easily and i'm like you need
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to be having fun like you're here trying to build and defend the world that you want but like
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you can also like sit back and live it to remind yourself that it's worth fighting for in the first
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place totally absolutely and it it plays into the earlier conversation we had about connection
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because like connecting to other people humans in in love and friendship and community like that's
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what i think some i got asked a question in an interview once when they're like when things are
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terrible like they are now like what do you think about that makes you feel good or want to keep
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going and i was like honestly community like that that's like the only thing that matters in times
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like now and it's like connection to other people people who love you and care about you and cherish
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you and like and that means like i always talk about platonic love being like just as if not
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more important than romantic highest form of love no for real like it's it's i feel like when i think
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about it too long especially how women connect to each other i'll cry because i think about how
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beautiful it is that women have this expansive huge colorful world of emotions that they can
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reach out and share with other women like and i've said like before like i know what it's like to be
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loved because i've been loved by women like women especially yeah like the warmth and love from
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women is incomparable to anyone else and i think that's why i also and hold such a high standard
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for men because yeah i know what real love feels like like for real so it's got to match that at
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the very fucking least because i think that's really all we have at the end of the day like
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all we really have is each other right and i think that's why when people are really homophobic or
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transphobic it makes me so fucking angry but also i'm like that sucks for you a life with no gay
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people or trans people boring literally like my stomach just saying i know like if i had to just
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it's truly like you for real and my i've luckily been raised around gay people my whole life
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because my mom plays piano for uh community theater love richmond virginia yeah uh shout
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out sandy dacus also retiring from being a music elementary school music teacher this year
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congratulations to her um good job mom good job mom um but yeah i just i can't imagine life without
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gay people oh my god me and yeah i but i also grew up tangential to that like right a lot of
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people i grew up with didn't know any gay people yeah it was a sin like and i hate to say it but
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it's getting worse some places might feel like it's getting better in some places but like
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uh i still have a lot of family in the south and yeah um they're getting more radicalized and less
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loving and um and just more blatant about their hatred and hatefulness it's just wild too when
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like if your main man is jesus christ who like was kind to everyone yeah literally and it's kind
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of his whole thing it's kind of his whole thing yeah that was kind of his thing was loving everyone
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oh my god my dad is such a cool guy he gets cooler by the second like he we had like a
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a time where we weren't as cool and now we are very close friends and um he
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like recently was like lucy i just realized jesus didn't charge for health care
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that's true he's like i'm gonna go tell my friends that jesus did not charge for health care
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and that's true and he means the miracles that jesus performed amen yeah works in two ways i
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was like that is a really great observation right that's very true yeah try coming back from that
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one yes and you know it's it's funny you say that too because the other day are you have you ever
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watched the pit the show i can't handle it really i have not seen it i will not see it i'm not doing
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that you're too anxious it's just like really blood and guts that's true it is a lot of blood
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guts i'm like my task at the end of the day is to have the heart rate go down like not up i don't
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understand me out like that you can't be stressing me out like that like i have to the best i can do
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is watch survivor and oh gee okay we will talk about survivor okay good but for the pit i was
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gonna say i love the pit i've been watching it recently i bet it's awesome and maybe i will
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watch it it is it is awesome but if you do get stressed out by medical shows definitely don't
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watch that one that one is the most stressful medical show but it's in a fun way in a cool way
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but um i was like talking to my man about this because i was like really high and i was watching
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the pit and i was like if i think too much about hospitals being for profit it'll make me cry like
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it'll make me cry and so angry and i'm gonna do something drastic yeah i can't i can't think about
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it for too long some people have right and and you know what you know why some people have some
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people have and yeah some people could and yeah i don't know anyone not personally but i do know
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of it i know it's happened yeah but you know you can't ask me anything about that
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but i have no real opinions other than that did happen yeah and i'm smiling that's unrelated
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anyways like dipping our toes into like boiling hot water for real and it's like it it's when i
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think about for-profit health care i think about doctors being put in these impossible positions
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and nurses where they want to help people they like literally like want to go to school to learn
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how to help people just so they can tell them i i can't treat you if you can't pay me money right
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and the money doesn't go to me and they can't tell you what it's going to cost right um here's
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something for if anyone is listening and you're like really rich here's something you can do
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you can buy people's medical debt at an absolute penny fraction of what they are going to have to
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pay and there's some database oh i i we need to be figuring this out yeah i clicked on the link
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but you can basically uh not through a charity but through basic the the hospital system buy
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people's medical debt oh my god no way i'm so glad you shared that with me and they would be
00:45:08.080
getting interest on it would be go to collections and stuff so uh something if someone is like super
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generous yeah hell yeah i'm glad you told me that actually there there's something similar to that
00:45:19.080
where you can do that for school lunches for kids so you can like buy out the year for them or buy
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a debt from them like some that's another thing they're like well you don't have the money so you
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can't eat but you do have to come to school it's wrong weird because they need child care so the
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parents can be doing labor yeah today capitalism is evil and crushing and and soulless and awful
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and that's why when i think about for-profit health care it like truly makes me want a man
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gioni yeah you say say his name i'm not gonna say his name say his name
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you said it um everyone in my life is like fuck capitalism yeah and i think also a lot of people
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in my life are starting to figure out like how and like in day-to-day like how can you personally
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set up anti-capitalist structures even if it's just like giving without getting anything back
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right that's like there's this book called the communism of love that er was on the show yes
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love er er gave this book to like a ton of us and was like be reading this most er five master gift
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i've ever the communism is the communism of love and it's like about how love is innately
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anti-capitalist because it establishes um joyful imbalances and it's not an exchange economy like
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when you love a child the child cannot materially give you back anything right uh with the elderly
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or the infirm or the ill like there are reasons why they can't pay you back right either in like
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with money or an exchange economy and that is a worthwhile gratifying yes like just like breaking
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in your head that you have to get something at every turn that you do something i know yeah well
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and also like similar to that in in sentiment is um in i'm samuan so like in in samuan culture like
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there's a saying i can't remember it but it's like it's basically like the the gift is not in
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receiving it's in the giving and it's specifically referring to money so like in in my culture we
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like genuinely believe like you will live a very blessed and favored life if you give like give
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and with no expectation of receiving so that that's how i've been raised was like is truly to
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do it because you want to and like give because you want to and the point of money of getting
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money is to give it away and to to give it to people who need it to give it to people you love
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like to take care of people and so that's always how i've always felt about money like
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in any regard like i've always been like well there's no point in having this if i can't share
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it yeah and i think now now that i do this for a living i've you know was able to retire my parents
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i retired my uncle like i retired my grandpa i take care of my family yeah and it's like it's
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like the best most amazing feeling in the world yeah and my parents are still learning how to be
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okay with being retired because they well that's a hard change yeah they've no well they've known
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nothing but work like especially my mom and dad like my parents had us very young so my mom and
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dad had my sister at 18 and then me at 20 so like i it's almost like reverse my mom was always like
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we did everything ass backwards like they had us first then moved in then got married that's cool
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So yeah, so they did everything completely backwards, which honestly, I think is really
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funny because it makes even more sense why I've never looked at marriage as like an end
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goal thing because I was with my man for seven years before we got engaged.
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So which to some people was like the most insane like timeline in the world, which I
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was like, why don't you want to know the person before you marry them?
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I can't even, I can't even, I was going to say I can't even kiss you if I don't, that's
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i know that's kind of a lie i'd be kissing i do but i do love to be kissing yeah yeah i i'm
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notorious friends to lovers hell yeah and how do you you need trust that's what i'm saying
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to have that relationship i don't i don't get how people do it the other way
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me either that would kill me uh that would kill me when the when i see like love is blind that
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would kill me i actually can't watch that me either no the pit no love is blind okay i'm
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learning your boundaries okay got it it's the love shows where i'm like you don't mean it
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like you want something else you don't actually want love i agree want like to serve a look on
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television and be famous yeah which is i think a sickness i agree but i think also a lot of folks
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are uh seemingly disenchanted quickly but then once you're in you're just in it yeah that's true
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anyways well my point being i think like that was why when i was thinking about getting married i
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was like i don't really care how it is like how big how small like i i just want to be married
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like a lot of people ask me what's who are you most excited for for the wedding this sounds
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corny as hell but to get married like i like i'm i'm excited to marry the love of my life like
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that's literally what i'm fired up about no really it's a psyop that you would think that's corny
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right whatever is like making love corny is is an actual psyop you're so right like
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love is love like literally that's beautiful yeah fuck up like anybody who thinks that that is not
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like the magic of the universe and the reason
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Yes, and how people think that it's like gauche
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or like buyable or just an aesthetic or girly also.
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Don't be putting it on the girls to do the loving.
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a lot of the world's problems would be solved with love
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I think if people accepted that they're gonna die
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i think people could be fearing death less that's true that's actually such a good point yeah
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the two extremes i love that yeah that's perfect yeah no you're right though about the death thing
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especially you're so right i've i've like kind of been talking through that too in therapy like
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yeah my i mean it's hard to do right but i also i don't i don't want to say i don't fear death
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because that's not i don't think i fear it you have to fear it to stay alive you need to be
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crossing the street at the right time exactly so it's like i don't want to say don't fear it i think
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i'm just not afraid it i guess is the word like it doesn't scare me i i do avoid i do want to avoid
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it yeah if i'd rather not i'd rather not yeah i got i do have some stuff next week so i'd rather
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not yeah but that being said um i think i've made peace with it in a way that's like i think what i
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fear more is people i love dying yeah i fear that more than me what i fear the most
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first love is blind now we're talking about our deepest fears what i fear the most the fact that
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we got to what i fear the most yes but it's other people in my life dying unfulfilled or with
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regrets which i don't even have control over which is like why i would fear it right that's like if
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i'm like on if i'm with a loved one and they're like i did it wrong that's and they're gone yeah
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that is like the worst thing i can think of yeah luckily like i think
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some people in my life are tilting towards feeling good and proud of themselves oh totally
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that's hopefully that's the arc of life but i don't think people consider their their last
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moments enough as a motivating force to be someone you're proud of day to day that's so true
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yeah well and i also think too they like they're my my man and i were actually just talking about
00:53:32.540
this recently about like this fallacy of like legacy like oh i want to like i want to leave a
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legacy behind that's also a huge pillar in like misogyny that's another reason they they do this
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weird shit because they're like i need to leave something i need to leave something behind but i
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feel like when you're so focused on that you you look at it in a way in a capitalist way or in a
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way like that's like i need to like make a name for myself in that way like i need to be famous
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need to be rich i need to be something like that um but they're like there's someone like that i
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lost during covid who i will never forget and it devastates me that she won't be at my wedding
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because she was my cousin but she was someone who legacy you want to talk about legacy like
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she was just the best person i've ever met so like i'll never forget her no one who's ever met
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her will ever forget her because of that and that's purely love that there there was no fame
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there was no money it was like just the way she moved in life was so beautiful and big and colorful
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and profound and it touched everyone and she was friends with everybody and everybody loved her so
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it was like that's to me legacy like that's like that's something that matters that's something
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that that people give a fuck about people will remember will carry with them i think too often
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it's put on like materialist possessions like material things or like um intangible things
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like being famous like it's which are so moot I guess like at the end of it all it really doesn't
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none of that fucking matters like at the end of it so I feel like you're right about making
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peace with like not being so afraid of it like not being so afraid of death and more so focusing
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I think that helps you focus on the now yeah even more so like you said the legacy is like
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the peace of yourself you leave in other people like it's not absolutely castle that you build
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for them to live in right um moving to la like i i didn't grow up around like rich people pretty
00:55:25.540
much at all same and then yeah and then then coming here it's wild it's way different and
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the way that people are even just raised to think about i'm like you are playing monopoly
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like and maybe literally doing monopolies like i like the game that was made after you like
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i yeah the real goal is to stack and hoard actually and there's this like shame and if
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you size down and it's really wild like even having friends where i feel like i have to like
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gently just be like you know it's okay to have a job right it feels really weird to say that to
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someone i'm like everyone in my life had jobs like i was just like i had jobs like yeah what
00:56:15.660
were some of your jobs i was an assistant in like uh an office once i was like an assistant to a
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publicist i was a waitress i was a booth bitch that's the fun term i like to call it but i just
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used to work booths at like festivals and stuff oh cool for nothing fun food things no it was for
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nothing fun booth okay i did this very specific job where i worked for my mom right after i got
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out of college and i would um basically i was doing outreach for uh major infrastructure projects
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which is a fancy bitch term for me going door to door and telling you about construction and
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your commute's gonna suck for the next like 15 years cool with that and i would get like screamed
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dad on porches so i did that for a bit i worked for the nfl that was what do you do i did uh
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social media for them yeah i worked for you like throw that ball yeah i was saying touchdown yeah
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yeah yes exactly number four exactly you nailed it yeah that was honestly probably one of my worst
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jobs i think the hardest job i've ever had was a waitress but yeah what about you um i was a
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waitress for four days uh my friend actually had a job at a chinese restaurant on our block okay and
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they had finals and they got they fired somebody and they booked my friend for um doubles for a
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full week over finals and so my friend it was a loose operation yeah was like i'm gonna teach you
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how to do my job and you're gonna show up for me oh and the people but my friend also like spoke
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chinese and i did not and the the chef and the owner were both she goes they're not gonna notice
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the difference between you and i yeah just get in there and i showed up and like basically they
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were like pick up the phone when someone calls write down find it in the menu put it back didn't
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train me on if someone walked in because everyone was doing takeout orders and so then when the
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first people came in like hey we'd like to eat here i'm like like um i'll be right back uh i'm
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like where are the utensils where are the napkins and they're like we need water like it was it was
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really bad you were like kind of a waitress and like my friend told me that i would get a shift
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meal that i think that the the chef was so mad i was there i was not fed so you're not even eating
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and i think also it's like she doesn't get to eat she sucks the place is closed now i think it was
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like a two dollars and 75 cents an hour that you're supposed to were you working in the 1920s
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But it's like they're supposed to pay you up to minimum wage
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It was like, yeah, it was about a week of that.
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Yeah, my serving job wasn't very long either.
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I think I worked there for like three and a half months,
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I got put on call because the manager was mad at me that I wouldn't work over Christmas.
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And I was living in Hawaii at the time because I was going to school.
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I used to get tipped out really heavy because it was like a high-end steak restaurant.
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But I had to wear khaki shorts and like a t-shirt, which is kind of strange.
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but then i like the my last day on like on my regular shifts i trained a guy who was terrible
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and i thought he was giving me more responsibility having me train so i was like oh my god okay
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perfect i'm gonna like teach him how to be great and then he kept leaving in the middle of the
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shift and i found out he was smoking meth in the bathroom which is a bummer that is um yeah so then
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i was like damn bummer i gotta tell the guy he smokes meth i don't know if you want that in the
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restaurant and then when i went out there to go tell him he was like you're fired and the fella
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is in yes oh he's like you just trained your replacement and i said okay so i didn't tell
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that's tricky yeah so i just didn't tell him about the meth thing because i figured well
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you'll find out yeah you'll see yeah and they did the next day on shift like he left in the
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middle of the shift again to go smoke meth and then was like i guess hungry at some point so
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then he left again in the middle of the shift and he made himself a dessert and was sitting in the
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very back of the freezer and they couldn't find him and then he was back there eating yeah that's
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i got fired the funny part about that story too is that every time i tell that story i'll tell it
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in great detail sometimes i'll tell a truncated version like that and then there's always at least
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two dingbats in the comments going meth doesn't make you hungry so yeah um i think it was weed
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so yeah as if they were fucking there talk about parasocial i was like hey did you laugh okay first
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of all fuck off if you laughed you fuck off if not i know the difference i know the difference
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between meth and weed believe it or not believe it has a smell believe it or not so like i i i
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know what weed smells like and i know what meth smells like i just had to say that because every
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time they post it they're like meth makes you not hungry so yeah so yeah i mean i would check that
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detail of the story so are they like a teenager who looked it up on reddit oh i'm sure that's the
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thing i feel like unless they're a meth head i'm not taking your word for it
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that in your comments like actually for my experience
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actually that's not true yeah yeah i'm not actually hungry right now so i never hungry
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when i smoke meth interesting yeah so anywho that was my experience serving but it was a very very
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awful job mostly because i had never had human interaction like when i was a waitress i literally
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told someone i feel like some people leave their homes with the intention of ruining the life and
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day of a server they're ready that's what they're paying for is the opportunity to humiliate and
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degree yes i even so my grandma's 96 and she's not i would say an awful person okay she i but
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at a restaurant she was raised she also has been through the depression like she's very she's like
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a bit of a hoarder um there's a lot going on there uh she has dementia at this point love her
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grandma uh she is walking in deciding if she's gonna give a tip or not the tip at most is two
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dollars if you're awesome and like she's testing you to see if you earn this tip and one thing
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she'll do is like look at the menu and then just see what ingredients are back there and be like
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make this like she's not ordering a thing she's like i see you have salmon i see you have broccoli
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i assume you have salt we're gonna do like a different go ahead and whip me up a bowl
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yeah she's doing a secret menu at every restaurant she is every restaurant is just
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someone's kitchen i love when they're like um i want a hamburger we don't have that well do you
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have bread and meat sounds like you got a hamburger yeah go and whip that up for me mash it up she's
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honestly kind of hilarious for that my grandpa's similar to that too like she also smoked hookah
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on her i think 80th birthday period and yeah she's an absolute icon yeah yeah my grandpa is
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loves to drink loves michelope ultra specifically and he's big smoker so like my grandpa's been
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smoking cigarettes since he was fucking probably like 11 so he he's big smoker and i remember one
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time my mom was like trying to put like life insurance policies in place for like like for
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my grandpa but like because he just refused to go and hates the doctor and all that so like
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my mom had to do like an end of life kind of life insurance policy because he would just never
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qualify because he's a chain smoker and a drinker but my mom was like when they come to like do the
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little intake form right to see if you qualify do me a favor can you lie a little bit about how
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much you smoke like this is one of my grandpa's smoky cigarettes now he vapes but like yeah
01:04:22.580
smoking cigarettes he goes yeah yeah yeah then they come and do the intake they're like so do
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you smoke he says yeah they're like how much he has like two packs and they're like oh okay like
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a week and he goes no a day my grandpa's smoking marble reds two packs a day at one point i was
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like oh and my grandpa's gonna outlive everyone i'm like convinced yeah i don't know there's
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something in that again we need the science actually i don't even want to say this because
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I will say the science on old people who have been smoking.
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Because there's so many ancient baddies that are smoking.
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And is it just the consistency that their bodies are attuned to?
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like i'm just like i'm not gonna do anything really with the info i just want to know right
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have you seen the dinosaur netflix documentary no how'd they do that oh my oh well i was like
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they went back in time i feel like this is an april fool's thing no i'm sorry
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there's a new dinosaur documentary is something that someone would have said to me
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in the fourth grade and i would have been like what it would have been like one of those trick
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things where i was like oh have you heard from joe and then they say joe mama i do i feel like
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i'm about to be i'm gonna get you for being stupid that's a real well well that's a real
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documentary okay tell me about it there's a dinosaur documentary on netflix it's narrated
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by morgan freeman it's really good it's very informative and honestly kind of beautiful you
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should watch it what are they documenting they're they're documenting well obviously it's all
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animation of said dinosaur thank you for saying that 3d printed dinosaurs no it's literally all
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animation but it looks really real but like it's not it's like planet earth but yes i love planet
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earth love planet earth do you like documentaries um i have in my life and then i took kind of a
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dark turn it was like i've learned too much and i need to me too yeah i went through a phase like
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that too sometimes i like when i watch ones especially ones when they're like uh murder
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cases kidnapping things whatever yeah especially because the victim's almost always a woman
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when i would watch those i felt like i was like studying like just in case someone something
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tries to happen to me oh my gosh i used to like tape like studying i was like i have to be aware
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of all of the potential threats around me okay cool that's how i felt like i call that ocd now
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personally you can never understand what that means to me that you said that right now because
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i am sniffing around an ocd diagnosis yeah my therapist yeah i told my therapist and this was
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one of the few times i've made her laugh and yes i keep count because she keeps she keeps me at
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arm's length and i really want so badly to come to her but she's like no i just found out she was
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married recently and also bi and i did not know that well i was like oh my god i have a gay
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therapist yes i was feeling so oh thank god that's great oh i felt so liberated by it but yeah i'd
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been seeing her for a year but still yeah i just found that out that's great i've had a lot of
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therapists that i know so much about their life because you go in and like say like how are you
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and like i do kind of want to move on from that but i can't help but ask and i have a great
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therapist now that is like awesome but i've had therapists that are like oh you know like i went
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camping with my boyfriend and my sisters really bought this has happened multiple times where
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i it's like i'm phoning a friend and they're just like telling me so much and i'm like well how did
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you feel about what your mom said now you're the therapist and then i brought it up with the
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therapist i was like hey i've noticed that like we kind of split time like we're 50 50 like we're
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about 50 50 like half an hour begin we were talking about you and then we get into myself
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for about half an hour and he was like well I'm mirroring I'm trying to set an example of openness
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that you can mirror what kind of gaslight ass fucking it was wild well why don't you take some
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fucking notes Lucy yeah that's how you're it was like you what actually he was like you like need
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to feel that this is a reciprocal like he'd yeah and it kept going and I stayed with that therapist
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for a year like and that being said i did find i did end up losing him a year later yeah i ended
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up changing therapy yeah i feel my my last therapist was great um i loved her she was
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awesome but there were points where sometimes she would say things like like if i'm talking
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about cultural stuff like i feel like there has to be a cultural understanding too if you and
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your therapist are not the same ethnicity i feel like there has to be some sort of cultural
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understanding so like sometimes she would say things like well why don't you just set boundaries
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with your family and i'm like well now you're just talking stupid to me no yeah
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because like we are working on boundaries but like the way she would tell me to do it
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it would just be like you should just tell them just do that yeah that's not how it works in my
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family i also don't think i think therapists are not actually supposed to tell you what to do
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right i think they're supposed to kind of like guide you to your own towards the end she was
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kind of like hey so i'm leaving see ya like she was leaving the like company i'm with and i was
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like oh okay so then i found a new therapist and i love her okay great love her but i did
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back to the ocd thing yeah i am sniffing around that i have realized as a kid did you ever
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look up ways to die and then how to avoid it yes yeah see i think it's a pretty common thing
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well they had that show too like a thousand ways to die yes and i would be like how would i avoid
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that and i'd be on the computer like you know how to like what shoes should i wear in this
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situation right i was always really scared of um quicksand right luckily i haven't had actually
01:10:34.400
well first okay if you get in quicksand you need to go sideways and pull yourself out
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you can't be climbing because you're going to extend the area that is not secure and sink
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faster i went hiking in scotland with my friend okay and it's beautiful there's moss everywhere
01:10:59.140
and i'm just walking and suddenly i'm swallowed by the earth oh my god there is the ground and
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and then it wasn't the ground, and I am in the earth.
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and I kicked my feet up and went parallel with the ground,
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and it's really scary because if your head goes under,
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So you can't really see what kind of Harry Potter ass forest were you guys
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it probably sounds like the dergo ringle or something.
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child fear knowledge okay i'm like okay so this validates all of that time i've ever said yeah
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this is i need to keep it was probably not good for me honestly but i thought i would think that
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too like i would i would always think like well i have to know like i would tell my mom like
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whenever i would find something new that i would i would like find something and i'm like
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i need to learn everything there is to know about this just in case yeah just in case someone asked
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me or i myself find myself in that situation and i've said this on the show before but like one of
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them is titanic like i was i was very brother has the titanic gene whatever whatever you have
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yeah yeah i was just really fascinated by the titanic but i learned about the titanic before
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the movie came out like in when i was a kid so i literally was so into it i needed to learn
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literally everything that my mom would buy me books and i would study up on it and because
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it was just so fascinating the fact that they'd never had a ship like that before they were ill
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equipped for the ocean yeah they'd never made that journey at that time especially in the winter
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i was like doing all this research then i watched the movie and after the movie was over i like told
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my mom i was like is that a true story and she was like what like jack and rose and i go yeah she goes
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no and i go what's the fucking point what's the point what's the point of that movie that's why
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you love documentary yes i watched the movie i said they didn't talk about the ship they didn't
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talk about the class system happening they didn't talk about the captain i was like they didn't
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cover any of the high points do you know about the titanic conspiracy theory which one okay i'm
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gonna say this i love that you said which one yeah let's not skip over that um there's plenty
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i'm gonna start and then you take over okay okay if i if i know it i'll take it weren't there a
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bunch of banking people who were had tickets to be on the titanic yes and they all returned their
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tickets at like the week before and there were other banking people on the boat and so there's
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this conspiracy theory that it was meant to crash crash in order to form like it would have major
01:14:10.380
global economy implications why and it's i think maybe there's still like the banks that we think
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of as big yeah the people who were in charge of them at that time are the people that didn't get
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on the Titanic okay I just got chills and I could have made that up I've never heard that one before
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I think there are parts of it that are true yeah well honestly at this point yeah probably yeah I
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feel like we've been exposed to so many like cracks and terrible things like in America's
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history just generally speaking we've known for a long time but now even especially now like there's
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been so many other things where you're like it goes all the way to the top yeah so I wouldn't
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be surprised to be honest i guess that's my point at this point i'll i'll believe anything like that
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especially if it has to do with the elite that's so sad rich and powerful we should not be
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used to this no absolutely the dazzle camouflage right is working and this is this is genuinely a
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very insane pivot but i will relate back to what we're talking about are you familiar with the
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show paradise at all is paradise the one no i'm thinking bachelor in paradise um which i have to
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say i haven't seen but it seems cool um paradise is a scripted tv show on hulu and it has like
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sterling k brown's in it who else is in it james morrison's in it lots of people cool banger
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fucking show i am telling i am pushing that show like i'm paid to do it like i'm just like it's so
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good but it's a long story short it's about the end of the world oh but and spoiler if you haven't
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watched this is not really a spoiler but it's basically the point of it is it centers on the
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head of security for the president at the time that the world ends but the world ends by like
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a climate thing like a very awful climate thing that's happening so it's very real like it's
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really rooted in reality like now which makes it kind of spooky but you find out that like the
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world's richest most powerful people were planning ahead of time because they knew it was coming
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and didn't prepare anybody yeah so they built this bunker and essentially all moved into it
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and planned to move into it when it happened and left everybody else to die and the bunker's like
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paradise yeah and so but inside the Paris it's like an underground bunker everything is fake
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so it's like they have a fake sun they have fake rain they have fake wind but it's like really nice
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and bougie yeah it's like it's like a like a suburban like city that's what it looks like
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oh there's like a whole sky yes you have to get into it lucy you have to get into it okay maybe
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it's so good it's so interesting but my point being like i was like when i was watching i was
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like that would happen i wouldn't be surprised if it's happened already if it's happening that's
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happening like prep preparing and not preparing the american people essentially for it because
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they don't care and when they like they talk about how they made selections of who to pick
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to go in there and they pick based off like what they believe you have to contribute whether it's
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like you're a doctor or a scientist or like you had to just prove no entertainers right we're no
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fuck no we're dead yeah if that happens they're leaving it but they don't it doesn't does money
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stop mattering yeah because it's like that's the crazy part is like and this again spoiler spoiler
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spoiler but like they think nothing is outside anymore because everything like there was like
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a huge tidal waves there was earthquakes like the sun blacked out for like i think a year or
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something like that so crops died it's like awful but there are people still surviving and so up
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there that's when they start you start seeing and this is me like getting so super woke leftist my
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blue hair's on cool but i was like i'm putting my blue hair on i've always wanted blue hair and i've
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never done it i've never dyed my hair and i just want to say that i'm with you all
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spiritually please continue yes exactly it's truly so beautiful how they write human connection in it
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because they show like how really at the end of the day the only thing that really matters is
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community because when the world is ending nobody cares i was gonna say if you're if you want to do
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some light doomsday prepping start loving people right exactly yeah start like knowing who's around
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you absolutely and yeah get a water filtration system yeah yeah and a generator yeah get
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canned foods canned foods dry food yeah get a good backpack that's lightweight well and i learned
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this from i don't know if this is true and it might be i might be dumb as fuck for saying it
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but like in the in the the show there's a part where there's a mailman and he's like some of
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the postal offices around the u.s were built to withstand nuclear like fallout that's real or
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it's in i don't know if it's real we but it feels like google has like a third person right we need
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a scientist with a laptop to either be answering our questions or looking them up yeah exactly
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and i think it's a beautiful thing because it shows like community how much they need each
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other like how they bond and and rebuild life human life and just generally it's honestly so
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beautiful the writing in it is that's great i've been saying i want more like post-apocalyptic
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like not like everyone's gonna shoot each other right eat each other whatever like zombies we
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need some like okay so what are we meant to do right i need like some good visions exactly in
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general like art just you have the chance to give good ideas right about what is gonna happen
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no for real and it's literally like it's watching it is like i think to myself i would hope if it
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did end like that i would hope that people would be able to come together like that in that kind
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of way like in that beautiful almost like poetic way it's like when everything goes to shit then
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everybody starts loving each other whatever it takes kind of thing you do i that wasn't a i'm
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about to say something cough that was a something was in my throat it's okay but around the fires
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here like i really did see people show up for each other in a way like sure there's always
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going to be people who like buy too much toilet paper during covid right um which is a good
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litmus test for how you might be some people were stockpiling their own toilet paper and some people
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were going and buying and distributing toilet paper for others yeah but um it was cool to see
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like ideally you don't have to remember the net but when some there's a rip in it like it
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reactivates this whole network that's so true that like i don't i do believe that people are
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like that i agree overall i agree and that's what my friend caleb says you know caleb he says that
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all the time you love caleb i know you do everybody does whatever okay just kidding he
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and i have a an enemies to lovers thing going on really and i what probably okay but the cutie pie
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brigade why are you not yeah you need to be like maximizing i know our joints lay yeah yeah that's
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true um but he's he said before and i really do find it to be true and i think the way he lives
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his life is a beautiful rendition of it but he's like i do believe that most people are good like
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inherently good and i think that's a beautiful sentiment to hold especially now like for him to
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be able to still carry that is honestly beautiful and profound i'm with him i know and i i sense
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that about you too that's why i think that is a beautiful thing like and it is important like
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you need people who are skeptical in a way that's like trying to protect you but you also need
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people who are open and loving and that's why i'm like in those moments if paradise ever happens
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i'd like to think that we'd be okay like yeah the communities the world like in some regard i'd like
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to think that i like to think that because i feel like if you don't have that everything seems
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pointless yeah and hopeless like which i can't be doing that right now pointless and hopeless yeah
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yeah no can't be doing that right now no i'm learning to garden i oh my gosh i'm love that
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hopefully gonna get better at fishing i want to have skills to offer right girl i gotta i gotta
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to get up my skills i'm trying to provide okay you're you're living in animal crossing it sounds
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like you're doing you know what i have like a bone to pick with those because i'm like if you
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wanted to do this you literally could or like maybe not everyone not everyone has land a lot
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of people are in cities yeah like but a little box plant that you can then make real pesto hell
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yeah or uh i don't know anyone who loves those like i would say like go buy a small bag of dirt
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and some seeds and just see what happens yeah my friend bretman um he volunteers at like a plant
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nursery i love that and so he like loves to just take care of the plants like he loves to be around
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them i think nature is so healing too like being able and like putting your hands in dirt and like
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your feet in the grass like that kind of thing i feel like especially since i'm polynesian like
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i feel very connected to the earth like in a lot of ways that's why i always cry as soon as i go
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back home to hawaii or anywhere that's polynesian at all like that kind of land like i have to go
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cry and stand on the beach just look at the ocean yeah just let her talk to me for a little bit yeah
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feel so spiritually connected to the land especially over there that's awesome it's a
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beautiful and amazing i would love to learn how to garden is it hard i am just starting so what
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i've done so far is not hard it's just going to the store and like getting the stuff okay um i did
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make like a chicken wire enclosure for my things so i am being greedy i want them more than i want
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the squirrels to have them um even though i am kind of living in their house yeah they'll be
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okay i'm curious i know a lot of people who are like don't visit hawaii is that um i think it
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depends it depends on who and i will preface this i'm not from hawaii but i do have a lot of family
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in hawaii and i lived in hawaii for a long time because of school so i was living there for a
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time and my family lives there so that's why it's like another home to me yeah and you can like oh
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yeah i'm just curious because i know like a lot of indigenous people are like it's but then i know
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some hawaiian people that are like at this point the economy relies on it is like the tourism's
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like 75 of their economy so like they they literally need tourism to survive that being said
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i think that when you do go you have to go in a way that's respectful right so it's like
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where you stay and how you stay how you move like on the island um is imperative to your visit
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also to like um taking anything from the land that's like one of the first things i tell people
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one of my girlfriends went and took her kids a while ago and i was like reaching out we were
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talking about it and i told her like just do me a favor like don't take anything like it's it's
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kapu which is like taboo to take anything um the point is to give back to the land to be
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polite and respectful and love the land they have like a saying called malamada i know which is like
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to love love the land so it's like picking up trash when you see it like i i always do that
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even here but especially over there and just um not taking anything is the biggest thing because
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i know people like to take like rocks seashells flowers like things like that don't do that
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a curse will be put on you and i'm being dead ass about that like don't do that don't touch them
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and just be kind and respectful and there's like this this like stigma too in hawaii about like
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oh they're racist against white people which like that's an oxymoron sentence so that's funny
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okay but also they're skeptical because the term haoli means foreigner but there was only one
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foreigner that went over there that's why it's always associated with white people so like
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whenever you get called the haoli it's not always disrespectful that's another thing to know but i
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think it's so i think it's okay to go as long as you go respectfully and you also i think it helps
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to talk to people who are polynesian who live there like local people it's just like the polite
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thing to do like just to act like a guest in the house because you are kind of yeah but that's what
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my my family and friends have said to me too like it's just it's one of those things where it's like
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well it's we're here now so it's not like you can't go um because you're gonna go if you want
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to go so if you're gonna go at least go kindly it's kind of related to the restaurant thing
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it's like some people you go to a restaurant i love a restaurant and i'm so grateful that someone
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spent so much time learning how to do that because i can't do that for real i cook but
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some stuff is impossible yeah and like actually makes me feel like a kid like i'm seeing new
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colors like some some good food is like truly inspiring right i agree i've like me and i have
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a lot of friends that love to eat and we just will cry at a restaurant and if there's like someone
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who's a great server i'm just like you're probably having a bad day because you're a server and like
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you deserve some lightness in your life or at least somebody who's not trying to get something
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else from you than the food or exert power over you right yeah because they don't have any whatever
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regard yeah the way you do anything is the way you do everything period what's your sign by the
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way do you want to guess i feel like i can't i've been trying to guess the whole time in my head
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are you a taurus yes i knew it oh my god wait that's awesome yeah i knew it and i take it as
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a compliment hell yeah right i love tauruses okay wait should i guess yours sure yeah no that is
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huge yeah i love you great tourist men but it's it's it's a rarity yeah it is um are you a fire
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sign no that is my rising though oh yeah are you so that's probably why you got that is my point
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i would have said earth sign because we've just been having yes you are i am an earth sign yes
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are you a taurus no okay close though well yeah there's only two other ones
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um i'm trying to give you something i know peppercorn no you're virgo yes um yeah i'm a
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virgo but i only think that's very obvious in like how mean i can be wow and how successful i am
01:28:21.940
only and i say that literally and also just kind of like a flex yeah just because i'm a worker like
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i'm a worker b like i love to work yeah so i'm all about work yeah my dad's a virgo period he's
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very airy i need to know his whole chart actually yeah and you're not very similar what's your wait
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what is your rising sign then well i'm a i'm a virgo sun um are you cancer moon sagittarius
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rising i'm sad rising also okay look at us and one of my best friends is a taurus yeah and i was
01:28:50.360
like i love tauruses you get along so well but i i felt the earthiness from you thank you that's
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what i was guessing and you're a very calm demeanor also you're um so emotionally like
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vast like you have the such emotional depth it's crazy that's so nice that's why you're such an
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incredible artist by the way which i would love to talk more about your music before we finish
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i've just been getting to know you i know that's why i was saying we got here and it was like
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oh there's yeah there's camera like i kind of was like yeah we're gonna have a fun little hang it's
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our first date that's why yeah yeah so we gotta get all the stuff out of the way we could have
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just got dinner yeah but this is great like thank you everyone we can still get dinner
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Do you have anything you would like to announce
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I know, and I'm going to throw up just thinking about it.
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get on in yeah come on in days but um my friend and bandmate phoenix rizumanis uh greek beautiful
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legend is uh doing all the arrangements and sent me a video because you can like do in the computer
01:30:12.020
and then like push play and the computer kind of plays it um and it's gonna be so cool like
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she's got like a hundred dimensional brain she plays violin if any if you've ever seen
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yeah love love love love love anyways it's gonna be really oh my god congratulations how fucking
01:30:30.700
awesome and then wait can i say who's opening jane i don't know if you're a fan of this person
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but cat power is opening who is like someone i've been listening to for so long like it's almost
01:30:42.040
it's embarrassing this cat power sings sea of love yeah i love that song that's one of my favorite
01:30:47.720
songs yeah oh my god i just got chills again yeah i did too someone like basically someone was like
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what about this and i was like is that allowed oh my god anyways orchestra yeah i'm gonna throw up
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for real i know i'm so excited yeah oh my god congratulations how fucking cool thank you that
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is so amazing so weird it is so it's crazy but well deserved thank you and you are incredible
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and it's my dad's birthday and he'll be there virgo virgo when's your dad's birthday september
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13th mine september 18th 18th that was the other day we were maybe gonna play oh my god sorry yeah
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we're meant to be tell jaleen to move over throuple another september another september
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birthday but libra oh okay my man's a libra too i love libras me too i actually realized like i
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haven't met a libra i don't like that same honestly and i don't want anyone to prove me
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wrong because i really like people i like liking people overall yeah my my man's born
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october i love you say my man yeah my man it's so cool i love that you're getting married
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i know soon i'll say my husband i've been saying my husband already i mean i say my man i say my
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husband period my wife yeah why not i call him my wife too yeah i'm like it's funny because and i'll
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i swear i'll wrap it up i have like a funny little joke about my my because my man is so like
01:32:09.340
manly looking like straight white guys like they really love him like super super but sometimes
01:32:16.980
when I go tour homes like because I just moved when I tour houses like for any reason I always
01:32:22.480
make sure he's there generally obviously because I want him to love the place but also because
01:32:25.880
every time a realtor sees him they'll give me the deal of a lifetime like they'll literally do
01:32:30.740
anything to get us to live there because they're so mesmerized by him wow and so I'm like yeah I
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just prop up my my pretty little wife and you look at her yeah and I'm gonna wheel and deal
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wheel and deal yes and it's the best so i get it that's awesome i get it and i love you and
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you're amazing i have that in the opposite way sorry we have to wrap up no yeah no i just feel
01:32:51.120
like like people look at julian are like i have to take care of you like julian's just looking up
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like even though like she's hard as fuck obviously covered in tattoos but i do feel that people
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they are endeared to her yes like immediately they're just like you're like from bambi or
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something anyways cutie patootie disease yeah in the brigade yep there you go okay so i do have
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some fun facts we'll close out with them cool uh this one says you used to have a job editing
01:33:25.100
children's school photos for a camera company yeah editing like facetune that'd be funny not
01:33:30.720
facetune but um they were taken in front of green screens so then the parents get to pick what the
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background is and then you have to make their hair not green so you're like color correcting
01:33:42.060
to whatever the background is that's cool and you prep it and then they send it to get
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keychains and mugs did they did you like that job i actually did because like it was very repetitive
01:33:52.100
and i had a pad of paper and like all my early songs i wrote just like occupying my brain in one
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way unlocked it in a different way you're crazy okay that's crazy that you were doing that you're
01:34:05.180
working and you're writing just unbelievable smash hits just like on a pad of paper all right good
01:34:10.560
now back to this children's photo i would do i i like fantasize about it i mean i got like nine
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dollars an hour so that's not great better than 240 yeah yeah yeah you were up from the restaurant
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275 275 sorry yeah okay this one says you were originally a film major in college before stopping
01:34:25.040
to pursue music which i think i knew about you yeah that's kind of true not not entirely i didn't
01:34:32.060
stop to do music i stopped because i didn't want to be in debt oh and i was like this is a racket
01:34:37.280
and then i did the the photo stuff and then through it being a love and hobby yeah music
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started but i i want to just say that the college system is really expensive it is and it's not for
01:34:51.660
everyone it wasn't like oh music's going great i'm gonna quit it was like i am not gonna pay for
01:34:55.460
this so i'm done yeah goodbye bye i respect that about you this is one of the first times you played
01:35:02.920
music for anyone was in a high school when your history teacher told you to bring a guitar to
01:35:07.000
school and you jammed in a stairwell during lunch libby germer oh my gosh changing history teacher
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yeah my friend's actually becoming a history teacher and i was like you are gonna change
01:35:17.080
so many kids lives just by being nice you know they're that's so beautiful yeah and teachers are
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so important yeah i am giving it up to teachers especially now like holy fuck like yeah they need
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to be making it's wild way way way more money braver than the troops most people are yeah
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yep exactly okay and this is the last one it says does this baby photo of you
01:35:40.700
holding a tiny horn prove that you were also destined to be a musician
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because i yeah i mean that's not how you you hold a horn by the way yeah by the way baby
01:35:58.360
you're holding the horn wrong it's backwards but um i don't i think that means i was destined to
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um have a nice round face my whole life that's the only thing you are truly the cutest baby
01:36:12.080
this picture does look like it was taken during the great depression my dad you are a very cute
01:36:16.460
my dad like would set these things because he's he's a graphic designer oh love but like when
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you'd have to buy fonts like in a box yeah have them sent to you and so he's very aesthetically
01:36:26.480
minded and he's he would like set up a scene like he's very careful and virgo virgo virgo down thank
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you dad oh my god you're the cutest baby i've literally ever seen thank you you are destined
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yeah i think to be lucy days to play the hollywood ball look at you she was the only one that could
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do it yeah clearly this is the only girl yeah well thank you so much for coming on the show
01:36:47.460
yeah thanks for having me i fucking love you yeah likewise you're the best i'm so excited
01:36:51.220
you're getting married oh my gosh we will we'll have dinner well yes we have to for real dinner
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yeah that'll be our second day okay cool and then you might get lucky
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that's the arc everyone's waiting for oh my god if i did if i if i entered that arc with lucy
1.00
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day kiss something terrible would happen the lesbians put a hit on me they would put a hit
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out on me i thought you said the lesbians would hit on me no they would put a hit out that is
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happening that if you aren't noticing you really are straight but you at least must notice that
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no yeah yeah i'm saying they would put a hit out on me out of jealousy maybe it's okay it's all
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right there's one person that would for sure yeah that's true there is one yeah yeah and i
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five foot flat person and they have cutie patootie disease yeah so good luck against me oh they'll be
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the cutest fight ever no no don't fight no fighting no fighting i love that i love you i
01:37:48.220
think you're amazing and i i truly want to tell you for real i think you are just an unbelievable
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one of one artist like i really do think that and i think you are imperative to the scene and the
01:38:00.920
way that you move and the way that you your music is obviously beautiful and amazing and and poignant
01:38:06.600
but just the way that you exist as a musician and an artist in general is inspiring and i think it's
01:38:12.340
beautiful and i just need to give you your flowers for it because i think you're incredible you earned
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that spot on lesbian mount rushmore thank you you earned it girl why why try to make me cry right at
01:38:21.940
the end here that's so crazy it's just important i always want to give i always want to give flowers
01:38:27.040
especially at the end because i i spend a lot of pee pee poo poo time talking sometimes but i do
01:38:31.920
want to be serious and tell you i think you are just unbelievable and so imperative and i and i'm
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so honored to have you on the show thank you and i love you thanks for having me thank you for
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coming you're wonderful thank you i appreciate that and thank you all for watching thank you
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for tuning into the comment section don't forget new episodes drop every wednesday you can stream
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the audio on all streaming platforms and the video as of right now is on spotify maybe it will be on
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YouTube very soon also make sure y'all check out Lucy Degas for maybe the one straight person
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that watches me and doesn't know who you are where can everybody find you oh just put my name
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in a search bar there you go probably like right yeah I mean your handles am I meant to oh it's
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if you would like L-U-C-Y-D-A-C-U-S like you just did that so pro and I'm like I'm true yeah it's
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okay you have you have the musician brain i have the pee pee poo poo time brain so that's why i'm
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able to do that you know what i mean you can play the hollywood bowl i can do this yeah so
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different but you can come and throw up there you go i will come and throw up and i might poop my
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pants cool and that's on and i'll ask julian for help after you'll be busy yeah so i'll ask julian
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to help me but thank you all so much for tuning in don't forget to go check out everything lucy
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you guys already know who the fuck she is she's so famous and important thank you all so much for
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tuning in and I'll see you next week. Bye.
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