The Comment Section with Drew Afualo - October 22, 2025


FULL BEAT CORN Ft. Christina Kirkman | Episode 192


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 17 minutes

Words per Minute

217.63206

Word Count

16,821

Sentence Count

12

Misogynist Sentences

32

Hate Speech Sentences

87


Summary

Christina Kirkman is a standup comic, writer, and all-around hilarious human being. She grew up in Los Angeles in the 80s and early 90s, and has been in the public eye ever since she was a teenager. She's funny, smart, and smart-as-hell, and she's got it all. She also happens to be the queen of Halloween, and we're here to tell you all about it.


Transcript

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00:00:13.620 time. On all that we had like live performances so we had like all of like you know Nick Lachey
00:00:20.180 and Ja Rule and whoever was hot during the time and like without a fucking doubt they would always
00:00:26.380 hit on my mom and I'm like I'm literally the funniest kid in America like and no one gives a
00:00:32.380 fuck because of my mom. Hey everyone and welcome back to another episode of the comment section
00:00:42.700 show starring me your fave everybody knows me who cares about me on to the guest today we have the
00:00:47.900 iconic the hilarious the unbelievably talented Christina Kirkman. Yeah! Mustard! I'm wearing a
00:00:55.240 mustard costume oh my god that's such a funny joke right did you not hear me come in yeah I love
00:01:00.160 that yeah if you're I was gonna explain myself if you're if you're listening I'm wearing a mustard
00:01:04.280 costume yeah there you go what I was gonna say is I you know because your people talk to my people
00:01:09.200 because we're in Hollywood and we do that yes and uh I was gonna wear a costume regardless right
00:01:13.720 and I thought I thought like I was gonna make like an interesting choice I was gonna show up and
00:01:18.320 they're like oh this girl's so different and then your team is like drew dresses up if you want to
00:01:22.280 dress up I was like oh fuck bitch shit well so here honestly I'm glad I'm glad that was your
00:01:27.480 knee-jerk reaction yeah I was gonna go for it regardless yeah that's mine yeah this episode
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00:02:03.020 encourage them to dress up because honestly once you get here you feel kind of silly when you're
00:02:07.540 ridiculous yeah I was talking to a corn yeah a full beat yeah I'm just like corn are you doing this
00:02:14.500 are you doing this all October yes I love that yeah so I've done a highlighter
00:02:19.880 sick Mona Lisa yeah I saw that and then I was just um a fish okay what kind now I'm corn I honestly
00:02:26.340 don't know what kind of fish okay a big fat one honestly was the biggest it was the biggest thing
00:02:31.600 ever it was like felt like horse blinders when I was wearing them but it was sea honestly I was
00:02:36.040 ready to commit I was ready to commit perfect Halloween's my favorite holiday oh my god mine too
00:02:41.360 so when I first started dating my boyfriend six years ago I said like oh Halloween's my favorite
00:02:46.600 holiday but he went to ASU okay so if you say that to like a dude from ASU it's like oh I like to have
00:02:53.840 sex you know what I mean like that's what it means when you say I like Halloween here yeah like I love
00:02:57.740 Halloween I'm like no no you don't understand I was Coraline last year like I fucking sewed
00:03:01.920 right fucking buttons to my eyes right I'm committed to the bit I I love that about you thanks honestly
00:03:07.420 and I think a lot of funny women do love Halloween it's a blast it's a time to be silly don't get me
00:03:11.760 wrong I'll I'll I'll dress like a hoe too yeah I love that you know we need range that's what I'm
00:03:18.100 saying like you never know my next move right I think when I was in college and I started doing
00:03:22.400 group costumes with like my girlfriends yeah my rule was always like I don't care if it's slutty
00:03:27.180 it just has to be smart like I want it to be something cool yeah like something niche something
00:03:31.440 awesome yeah and we can hoe it out if we need to right but like as long as it's something cool
00:03:36.020 that I'm in oh yeah and I think the very first one we ever did was we were spring breakers so we
00:03:41.100 just cut holes in beanies yeah and wore bikinis which was perfect that was like a shoe in yeah
00:03:45.480 and it was a hit like we killed all night one of my friends though got too drunk before we left the
00:03:49.440 house and didn't cut holes in her beanie so she was just a girl in a beanie right but that's on her
00:03:53.560 honestly right she was like I didn't cut the holes and I was like well now there's three of us
00:03:57.740 the whole costume is yeah and then they were like okay so spring breakers and girl in a beanie
00:04:01.660 perfect yeah you're like yeah I'm trying to be different and she didn't care so no we did like
00:04:06.240 we did some whack-ass shit what did we do we did painters I don't know I think we were in an overall
00:04:11.620 phase we just like put paint on our body and love wore overalls really yeah we paint things
00:04:17.640 and then um one year we did do you remember that song give me the business I think so we were just
00:04:25.240 like business hoes like there was no creativity I love that yeah you know as you get older it
00:04:31.260 evolves yeah it gets more clever and totally still would like the slutty in there and now I'm just
00:04:36.580 you know mustard and I had I had this shit right like I this was packed and ready I had easy access
00:04:44.020 to this I honestly have quite a few costumes in my house most of which I did own before doing this
00:04:50.000 yeah so like I do love a good costume oh and I love the cheaper looking the better in my opinion
00:04:54.740 oh 100 like when it looks really thrown in together and haphazard yeah I'm in one of my best friends
00:04:59.820 she has an FBI uh federal body inspector she's worn it I've been friends with her for 10 years
00:05:07.560 every fucking year that bitch wears it it's now just FB and we're like yeah but you gotta fucking
00:05:13.180 switch it up I'm like I got a mustard costume please get a new no it's like coming up it's like
00:05:18.140 Fashion Nova like the letters are shipping but like for some reason it's just like even cooler
00:05:23.300 every year every honestly bitch she does the same she's got full-blown camel toe now it's 10 years old
00:05:28.200 I'm like dude free drinks all night man you wear that federal body you wear that baby wear that shit
00:05:35.060 girl I think a couple years ago I was I was she hulk but I was a very specific version of she hulk and
00:05:41.220 then my man was the hulk right and so like when I when I did the makeup and stuff it was awesome
00:05:46.180 but then when we posted it people were like um they're cousins and I was like they're also uh not
00:05:53.480 real right they're also make believe they're also fake bitch yeah they're make believe so let's go
00:05:57.580 off that right right like let's go off dude it's fucking halloween man yeah what are we doing well
00:06:02.060 also like I know that she hulk is supposed to be with daredevil right I'm sure you can imagine
00:06:06.940 my apprehension with making my man dress up as a blind man of course of course character or not
00:06:12.000 it felt insensitive right believe it or not I did my research before I did the costume so I thought
00:06:17.580 you know maybe we make you the hulk so that I don't I don't want to do anything like that and they
00:06:22.220 still and they were still like yeah and I was and some of you guys are cousins and you're still
00:06:26.760 together I was like all right so I know a couple cousins pretend we're in Alabama like and now you
00:06:31.580 don't have a fucking now what I love that you love Halloween what's one of your favorite
00:06:36.500 costumes you've ever done oh my favorite costume man I mean I did love Coraline that was sick I did
00:06:43.380 like the whole uh button makeup tutorial so good I'm trying to think like what other I mean this is
00:06:51.420 from uh I have two wiener dogs so and I do want to talk about your wiener dogs I mean I'm down to talk
00:06:57.980 about them this is my boyfriend's I have a ketchup one I broke it out last week just because and it has
00:07:04.980 some um questionable stains on it yeah so I didn't wear that one yeah but I was ketchup he was mustard
00:07:12.180 and then we did our Halloween photos outside of wiener schnitzel and they were hot dogs that's so
00:07:17.180 fucking cute so that was that was a good one I have two frenchies so I squid and tuna great names yeah
00:07:23.580 thank you what are your you guys do four costumes right you're not yeah we we've dressed them up like
00:07:28.700 just in pairs as them um and tuna's completely 100% deaf so like he's honestly you would think
00:07:36.140 deaf dogs are like harder to like do things with like you would do with normal honestly he's like
00:07:40.960 the most well behaved because he doesn't know what the fuck is going on loving like he's never agitated
00:07:45.960 he's never angry because he can't hear shit right he can't be overstimulated yeah those ears are for
00:07:49.560 real for sure like they're so useless his they turn all the time they hear nothing oh so like this year
00:07:55.140 I was thinking about dressing them up as each other okay or also pain and panic from Hercules
00:07:59.580 I love because I thought that would be really funny oh my god but are you like committing to
00:08:03.300 making these costumes no for them no mostly because they cost me enough money as it is right as I said
00:08:09.660 they're frenchies right that does come with a bill no they're hymenes um yeah because I wanted dogs
00:08:13.780 are kind of up there too sometimes what the fuck man I got like little babies also I got I got dogs too
00:08:18.860 because like I love to walk and I'm like oh this will be fun like it'll I'll leave the house I got
00:08:23.020 two dogs that fucking hate walking like they they literally hate walking so I never leave honestly
00:08:29.040 I'd like never leave I'm like what the fuck you're all perfect so now there's four couch potatoes no
00:08:33.800 dude we do nothing like this is my first day out of the house this month and it will be like that
00:08:39.380 the whole month yeah my dog same thing well the good thing is about them being like you know tiny and
00:08:44.840 small and and overweight you can just shuttle them around yeah well and also like if they do a couple
00:08:50.240 laps up and down my hallway they're like work up for the year and they have to lay down for 20
00:08:55.140 minutes so it works it kind of works out in my favor okay they're also not overweight they're
00:08:58.620 perfectly sized my I one of mine which I just anyway this whatever uh one of my dogs is in
00:09:04.580 hydrotherapy shut up don't say anything he's got back problems so uh he does the little water
00:09:10.280 treadmill yeah so that's his workout I'm like good king you're good for the for the fucking month
00:09:14.880 but Halloween costumes I really want to dress so my youngest demonic daughter Willa I really want to
00:09:21.680 do kill Bill I want to do kill Will that's such a good idea I can't fucking find the yellow jumpsuit
00:09:27.720 and I'm like do I really want to make a fucking yellow jumpsuit I mean what else am I doing I'm
00:09:31.620 not leaving my house might as well might as fucking well might as well that's a great one
00:09:36.860 that's a good one and she's blonde she's got so many we could do Willa Wonka
00:09:40.660 dude we were firing these I was so stoned the other night I was I was like I have a great idea
00:09:46.240 I'm gonna make a fucking kill Bill costume and then I was like I don't know how to sew
00:09:49.620 what am I doing how to do any of that I don't really nah I know that's I I feel like pain and
00:09:55.300 panic came to me that's a good one I was high I was like well and they're annoying like them so
00:09:59.920 that's how I figured if they could talk they would talk like that that's a great I've what a great
00:10:04.860 animated duo that's an underrated animated duo I'm saying what's your favorite animated duo
00:10:10.280 duo probably Lilo and Stitch yeah if I had to pick that honestly like the portrayal of their
00:10:18.480 borderline abusive relationship when she first adopts him that is my relationship with my oldest
00:10:23.980 dog squid like that is my baby that is my son my literal child I birthed him he grew inside me I
00:10:29.280 gave birth to him I will not he literally like the way he just shoves her to the ground and shit that
00:10:33.800 is how he treats me like for real and she like puts the lay on him and he calms down for a second
00:10:38.280 that's my dog like oh yeah that is him and that is how he acts so I would say the two of them
00:10:42.900 yeah that's a good what about you dude spongebob and patrick oh that's a great one it's it's it's
00:10:48.380 my favorite tv show of all time my senior thesis in college was you had to take a some art and like
00:10:55.960 basically transform it into a different medium okay and I watched 300 episodes of spongebob and I
00:11:01.900 made it an adult swim show oh cool dirtiest fucking show let me give you my I have actually never
00:11:07.420 talked about this let me give you my theory this is this was my high school brain that came up with
00:11:11.420 this theory okay bikini bottom okay spongebob is absorbent he's a tampon squidward is phallic
00:11:21.740 he's penis okay but this is where and then you crabs is crab sandy cheeks sandy cheeks but then
00:11:29.000 it gets dicey because patrick I'm like what the fuck is patrick he's the clit because he's just a
00:11:35.480 pink blob and he lives under a rock he's hard to find I'm gonna be honest dude I I feel high
00:11:40.420 listening to you I know this this is I'd say this shit to my boyfriend who doesn't smoke and he's like
00:11:45.280 yeah I don't I like don't know where to go oh my god if I had a nickel for every time I was like
00:11:50.200 no get this yeah no and I talk for 45 minutes about something that makes no sense and then at
00:11:54.740 the end of the scene nobody's on the opposite side of that conversation it's just me in a wall
00:11:58.780 get this me alone there's no one there carrying it by myself it's the like uh most genius writing
00:12:06.300 ever I still watch it every fucking night it's my favorite show it never gets old it's so and it's
00:12:11.280 the only show like I only watched animation growing up and I'm now I'm like that's why so many parents
00:12:18.520 could sit and watch that show yeah because whatever joke went over my head they got but
00:12:23.620 like ah it's just such a good fucking I know it's very layered I would say the earlier seasons are
00:12:28.680 some of the best oh best in my opinion I I agree with you and that reminds me of if we're speaking
00:12:34.480 early 90s like nickelodeon okay so I know you did do some act you've been an actress yeah for a long
00:12:40.540 time and you were a child star sure when you did that open call tape right like that thing yeah I have
00:12:46.800 to tell you this is the most this the funniest most full circle thing ever okay my sister
00:12:51.860 auditioned for that same thing and she like sent in a tape she was like this is it for me like I'm
00:12:59.060 gonna do it and then you got it and I remember my sister being like wow what a fucking bitch
00:13:04.860 she literally when we saw it found you on tiktok she was like oh my god that's the girl that won
00:13:13.060 that fucking that's fucking killer I know that bitch dude wow yeah you stole someone's dream
00:13:19.820 dude I get it like I've had people like to this day like they'll come up to me in the streets and
00:13:24.160 be like I auditioned for that and I'll be like dude where do we go from here and now my life is
00:13:31.920 yeah I'm like right right I'm like I don't know what to fucking say but like that's I get that so
00:13:39.340 I mean so many fucking kids it was over 10,000 kids I know that was like a and also I feel
00:13:45.280 like that was a pretty shows weren't doing shit like that no at all that's why I so distinctly
00:13:51.260 I remember my mom recording my sister oh yeah what am I trying to do you remember the because I
00:13:56.440 remember my because you had to go online by your last name and you had to get a scene do you remember
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00:14:31.920 girl I don't even think I made it that far she didn't even make it that far she said I just slated my
00:14:38.720 name and then I never fucking they never go because you know you have to be like I'm from Amanda
00:14:42.700 is like Penelope okay was that a was that like a script or did you do your own okay okay yeah that's
00:14:52.020 right dude and I was just watching because I was too young to audition yeah oh were you what was it
00:14:56.920 was there I'm two years younger than her so like what was the I was 10 how old did you have to be
00:15:01.680 I think I don't know probably 10 yeah shit and then sometimes like if my sister saw it and then my mom
00:15:07.040 would be like because we did everything together like we're like Irish twins okay so like sometimes
00:15:12.720 my mom would be like let Dason do this right I'd be like I want to do it too I want to do it too I want to
00:15:17.420 do it too my mom was like let her do this yeah oh my god like we had to like separate us sometimes
00:15:24.760 so we had some separation wait I can't believe I never heard this this story you waited for you
00:15:29.560 yes I waited for this moment exactly to bring it up great so the podcast is over when we were in the
00:15:34.120 green room she goes make sure you bring up that she saw my dream oh my god that is yeah man well how
00:15:40.560 was that what was that experience like for you I'd love to know um I feel like it's living the dream
00:15:44.900 as a kid well I mean hey listen I I think what made it really cool for me is that I wasn't a child
00:15:52.160 actor yeah and I think I had no fucking expectation and most of the kids that went out for that were
00:15:59.420 child actors because they did casting calls in basically all of the quote-unquote Hollywood hubs
00:16:04.920 yeah and then I did a self-tape which now being an actor as an adult I'm like no one's watching the
00:16:10.560 self-tapes when there's in-person auditions right um and the craziest thing is I hate saying this
00:16:16.420 because I feel like it kind of you know fucking ruins my credibility I never watched a goddamn
00:16:20.620 episode of all that like I didn't credibility at all I don't I didn't know I watched the only
00:16:25.720 reason why I knew about the contest was because the commercial was on during Spongebob and my friends
00:16:31.020 loved all that yeah and I was like fuck it I'm funny let's fucking let's do this yeah and my dad
00:16:37.380 went downstairs got the the video camera and I my first I think I did two tapes the first one was
00:16:46.920 you had to go online by your last name and find uh whatever sides and mine was meeting Jay Leno okay
00:16:55.200 and I'll never forget I turned to my mom and I was like who's Jay Leno and then she had an andrewism
00:16:59.760 crazy the first celebrity I ever met when I touched down in LA was Jay Leno at Bob's Burger
00:17:06.700 and I think this might be a Mandela effect because my mom just got a brand new like Sony camera she
00:17:13.160 was like you're never gonna believe this my daughter's first scene was about meeting you
00:17:17.460 can we get a photo we get a photo and then someone stole my mom's camera and I never saw that photo so
00:17:22.440 it might have been like a lucid dream I could be lying I've smoked a lot of pot
00:17:26.460 could be a big cat liar who knows I mean that's for sure um but that's so crazy and then we just
00:17:32.760 had to do like impersonation so I did Sandy Cheeks I did like a break dancing rapping DJ
00:17:40.520 I did Steve Irwin R.I.P. yeah I did I don't even fucking know but I just like sent it in and then
00:17:47.300 every Friday night from 10,000 to top five they would air like top 10 oh I remember and I was
00:17:54.960 like oh shit man I think I'm I think I'm going to LA I think I'm this is crazy we watched that like
00:18:00.460 Jason didn't get drafted we were like no way fuck no way dude no way didn't get the call damn
00:18:09.260 yeah man that was and then as far as being on the show I mean I had a blast I like you know
00:18:17.200 technically you know Amanda Bynes was was my like it was just fucking nuts yeah the people like my
00:18:25.160 it's funny Nick Cannon just started following me on Instagram and I'm like I wonder if he knows
00:18:29.660 that he was one of the judges because the three judges for top five it was like America votes
00:18:35.820 and then the host was Taryn Killam and this is when Taryn Killam was dating Amanda Bynes which is
00:18:41.280 just crazy seeing that as a as a kid that dynamic what a random dynamic but it was Nick Cannon Josh
00:18:47.700 Peck and Amanda Bynes were the judges and it was just real holy trinity real holy trinity yeah I mean
00:18:55.680 it's uh I was really really lucky my mom quit her job on the spot so I had an adult supervising me
00:19:04.240 24-7 which it's an adult industry well thank god I mean I'm already fucked up I can't yeah I couldn't
00:19:11.520 afford to be any more fucked up um but it was fun it was just like going to a big playground every day
00:19:17.460 like I loved the cast I was the youngest one they took me in and that's so I used to follow them
00:19:22.560 around like Jack DeSena uh who after all that ended up doing Avatar one of my favorite people to this day
00:19:28.520 super super talented and funny uh he was kind of my my big brother and I would just follow him
00:19:33.860 around set and whatever character he was written to do I would try to copy the voices he was doing
00:19:41.200 and then the writers would just kind of write me in to play his little sister as like the smaller
00:19:45.540 version of his character so it was a blast it was really fun look at you get in where you fit in
00:19:51.060 yeah it was fine I mean going going back to Massachusetts was you know yeah like after that
00:19:58.040 oh yeah it was terrible but being on it was great I mean that's fucking awesome yeah and it's so full
00:20:03.120 circle the the world is so small because here we are together yeah I'm I yeah snatch the dream of a
00:20:08.280 million children I'm so sorry don't hold it against me it was rigged well fast forward to to TikTok so
00:20:15.820 how did you get on TikTok like what what was it that against my will right you know just to say
00:20:20.900 the normal trajectory like shit on it for long enough and then you're like wow yeah what else am
00:20:28.200 I doing I mean I was acting full-time before TikTok and then you know there I was like I gotta make
00:20:37.500 money what am I doing and then uh I got Winston my first dog and I was like I started I I had TikTok
00:20:46.560 I wasn't taking it seriously I started posting videos of him on my TikTok and people loved it
00:20:50.760 and I'm like oh I love voiceover I love animation what if I kind of make him a character and hide
00:20:55.040 behind it in that way because at the time it was still taboo yeah to be an actor and be on social
00:21:01.120 it was like yeah I know what you mean I've had a few actor friends come on yeah who have said that
00:21:05.700 like it was just dicey then yeah and already as somebody that's like I wasn't working a fuck ton
00:21:11.660 where I was in a position to just be like I'm gonna do TikTok too um I wanted to be really
00:21:16.220 cautious about it yeah so I kind of made accidentally this character for my dog and it was so fun and
00:21:21.940 then I'm like oh my god people want to pay me to do this yeah and then after doing that for so long
00:21:26.360 I had this epiphany of like this is a fucking dog this is not sustainable yeah what if I just do it
00:21:32.860 for myself and then one day I just committed and it kind of took off and it's just so much more
00:21:37.280 rewarding because I love acting I will always love acting I'll always do it in some capacity
00:21:42.180 but you only get to work like maybe one or two jobs a year yeah and I was so tired of waiting for
00:21:48.280 permission to entertain with TikTok you I can I don't have to get on at all yeah I can get on every
00:21:53.160 day it's way more fulfilling in in that way yeah and and the payoff is better in that regard too
00:21:58.920 yeah which like I'm I'm obviously like I had no no like entertainment plans really outside of
00:22:06.560 sports when I first started doing this because that that was my path originally what what sports
00:22:11.560 are you in uh football because I worked at the NFL but then I got fired two weeks before the pandemic
00:22:17.220 hit and then that's when I started making TikTok videos so that's how I got into TikTok but like
00:22:21.700 at the time like what I really wanted was to entertain right like I wanted to be on camera I
00:22:26.760 just thought sports was the way like I was like okay I'll just go this route because I didn't think
00:22:31.240 acting was an option for me like I didn't think I could pursue that for real so I was like let me just do
00:22:36.080 journalism that's a little bit more sustainable I guess in that regard and I could still be on
00:22:39.920 camera and then kind of maybe work from there yeah I thought I was going to be like a like
00:22:44.640 reporter or like a I don't know like a an analyst yeah I thought it would be something like that and
00:22:51.160 I was like okay first woman like I was like okay I could do something like that like that that was
00:22:54.900 like my thought process at the time but what I really want to do is like entertain people totally
00:22:59.200 so then when you start doing this like it's almost like you know sometimes people get pissed
00:23:03.500 because they're saying like oh influencers are like crossing over into other more serious forms
00:23:07.780 which is like acting singing that kind of thing which now I'm like venturing into acting which I've
00:23:11.980 always wanted to act I just didn't think it was an option totally and so now I'm like well yeah I'm
00:23:16.680 going in a back door because everyone's taking too goddamn long and I'm gonna do it myself yeah well
00:23:22.280 like I've always been at this weird uh intersection of that conversation because to be honest when I was an
00:23:28.720 actor full-time I had those negative thoughts towards content creators where I was like because
00:23:34.120 here's the thing too is like I think that this is entertainment and I and I I think like for acting
00:23:40.900 for an example my question one day was like what do I like what do I love about making no money
00:23:47.260 working harder than everybody I know but I'm not employed yeah missing funerals and weddings and all
00:23:52.980 of this like what is it that keeps me here besides the fact that I'm delusional and it was I like to
00:23:58.280 entertain right I was like okay I don't have to go one path to achieve that yeah and then when you
00:24:03.500 have that realization you're like oh I can do this whole world opens up now I can do acting I can do
00:24:08.500 voiceover I can do this totally I think it was I think it's just changed so much I know back then a
00:24:14.260 lot of that resentment came from actors really had to go through hell to make like five percent progress
00:24:20.580 right and then to see these creators kind of come in and yeah when influencers became a thing yeah it was
00:24:26.580 they just take them it was this entitlement it was this entitlement of oh because I have x amount
00:24:30.900 of followers I'll be entertaining in this mode and the reality is is like a lot of actors suck ass at
00:24:38.060 social media and a lot of like social media people can't act so like but there are people that can do
00:24:43.060 both tea yeah and you need to experience that world for it to open up I agree but it was just weird
00:24:48.180 back then and there was a lot like we just had a lot of resentment honestly because it was jealousy
00:24:52.420 I know that I was jealous and had resentment because I was like damn these motherfuckers have
00:24:57.360 control over their career I'm told like don't get tattoos don't color your hair don't go on vacation
00:25:02.460 because you might book a job don't you know don't post anything on social media because then you're
00:25:06.440 social it's just like we had so much resentment all of that is and that's very um like you said it's
00:25:11.160 like it's changed so much so it's like the evolution of of and the integration of oh it's blended yeah
00:25:16.360 and and I get that too because I I even as someone who who is an influencer like blew up as an
00:25:21.620 influencer I get it because there are a lot of influencers I fucking hate yeah so when I see
00:25:26.400 them with no talent doing other shit yeah no for sure it's annoying right like when you see it so I
00:25:31.320 was like I I've said before too that sometimes I think you can tell right like you can tell when
00:25:37.460 someone didn't want to act yeah this was just a big opportunity manager called and was like hey yeah
00:25:41.960 they're like hey I got this role for you lots of money lots of press it it works for your career
00:25:46.080 you can fucking tell I think is the point so that's why I'm like sometimes I've told people
00:25:50.380 remember that sometimes what people blew up for is not actually what they wanted to do forever
00:25:55.260 that exactly sometimes it's just a vehicle yeah and I think and that's why I said I think audiences
00:25:59.520 are a lot smarter than sometimes creators give them credit for so they can tell when it's inauthentic
00:26:04.880 oh like you clock that shit immediately right and I started acting lessons recently and like my acting
00:26:09.820 coach told me like when I was first telling him because I've had a poor experience with an acting
00:26:13.860 coach before of course that wrote me off as soon as she found out what I started as which I again
00:26:18.540 I understand but you took the meeting with me so I kind of figured you knew uh when we talked about
00:26:23.180 it so when I met with my now acting coach I kind of explained to him this is what I did like this is
00:26:28.600 but this is what I want to do this is where I'm going that kind of thing and then he's like the only
00:26:32.380 question I have is like do you really want to do this like is this something you really want to do
00:26:35.520 like this would be a dream and I said yeah and he goes then that's it that's all you need to know
00:26:39.280 and he was like that's I think that and I also think if I'm taking lessons I'm taking the shit
00:26:44.520 serious right I don't have to do if I was just some asshole that's like well I have eight million
00:26:48.860 followers right fine I wouldn't be going and asking someone to help teach me yeah oh yeah so I think
00:26:53.620 it's like it all depends on how people handle like totally transitioning into the craft I think 100%
00:26:59.200 that transition matters I mean listen I think that even as an actor they're like there are actors that
00:27:05.740 are shitty that other actors are like how the fuck did they that like what the fuck is I just
00:27:11.300 sat around in a circle crying kumbaya my acting class for six years what the fuck is this like
00:27:16.480 that resentment it's like it's natural it's natural but the the worlds are so integrated at the end of
00:27:22.920 the day I truly believe if you know how to entertain you can you can kind of take that vehicle anywhere
00:27:28.660 and you should take that vehicle anywhere but I think there's a lot of resentment because people
00:27:34.040 like to put people in boxes and I agree I my resentment to trying to get out of like being a
00:27:40.780 child actor I took 15 years off I come back to LA being an egotistical douchebag being like I was a
00:27:48.980 serious regular on our show 15 years ago I'm gonna work and everyone's like dude you've been out of here
00:27:53.000 for 15 years we don't know what to do with you and everybody wanted to put me in kids comedy and
00:27:58.340 that's why I was also so nervous about getting on social media because I'm like I don't want to be
00:28:01.780 the fucking tick tock girl I'm I just got out of being the all that girl yeah but that's why
00:28:07.160 actually so real for that but like but you you have the flexibility the cool thing now is like you
00:28:12.380 and what you don't have when you're a struggling actor is you really do have control over your brand
00:28:16.960 with social and you can say no and that's so empowering as a struggling actor the word no doesn't
00:28:22.500 exist like you have to be doe-eyed yeah you have to say yes to everything yeah just in case just in
00:28:28.200 case they know someone who knows someone right so I think like that's what's really empowering about
00:28:32.760 social media is like I can say fuck no I don't have to work with shitty people and honestly like
00:28:38.000 as I've done quite a few reads like haven't booked anything yet that's part of the course updated
00:28:44.140 I literally did a read uh for a really big show that's coming out soon they asked they reached out
00:28:50.920 to me right and the the role is literally an influencer that hosts a successful podcast that
00:28:58.260 is literally the byline for it okay I didn't get it they said you know what chew on the nose
00:29:04.440 let's make it let's make an interesting choice that bitch actually I I literally got it and I in my
00:29:10.160 slate because I'm sometimes I'm silly in my slate which by the way I this is fuck a slate in my for real
00:29:16.520 in my slate I'm gonna start lying about my height you should you should just lie about everything I
00:29:20.220 know I said six I say six feet and then I started saying but if you guys need me to be 5'10 I can
00:29:25.700 like I started saying that my slate because I'm really like I think they're like behemoth no we're
00:29:31.400 not casting that bitch because I'm too tall so I think I need to start lying well you know what it is
00:29:35.760 too so many like when there's I'm always on an apple box I've just accepted like ah where's your
00:29:42.280 apple box yeah male actors are really fucking short I know girl like they're really fucking
00:29:48.740 short so that like a lot of times I mean I've been on set where the girl is taller and homeboy is on a
00:29:56.440 fucking apple box I'm like you know what and that's fine which this is something I'll ask you
00:30:01.060 because you're because you're an actor already oh boy how do you feel about like romantic filming
00:30:06.020 romantic scenes because oh let's thoughts and chills down my spine yeah it's terrible I think
00:30:10.540 about the worst thing I'm so afraid to do it okay also I'm like I have something I have like so
00:30:16.360 I just watched a very old I mean I just watched a very very old clip of Zendaya probably seven years
00:30:22.960 ago and they were talking about euphoria uh and whatever late night host was interviewing her and
00:30:28.380 they're like oh there's a lot of dicks on the show or whatever and the first comment like the most
00:30:32.620 liked comment was like is she still engaged like sad face and I'm like that's not it's so there is
00:30:40.440 nothing sexy or romantic about it it's like kissing your grandma like there is it could not be more
00:30:49.480 uncomfortable like methodical even even if you have it's it's not even has anything to do with
00:30:54.780 whoever you're having the scene with it's like I'll tell you my first um I was on a show called
00:31:01.440 Ambitions and I was just fucking everybody I was fucking everybody on that show and um just like
00:31:08.300 you know wives husbands like no one was safe and that was my first time having intimate scenes and
00:31:13.400 it was the most terrifying thing and my best friend Mina her mom is uh Machen who did Twin Peaks
00:31:21.040 iconic actress she did Gossip Girl and uh she played Lily Reinhart's mom on Riverdale so I call her in
00:31:26.800 Atlanta I'm like hey I have a threesome scene what's your advice and she's like just have fun
00:31:32.600 darling like she was like have a blast and I'm like I'm in the hotel room like what do I do
00:31:38.080 she's like oh have fun like just enjoy it and I mean that's really all you can do because if you
00:31:44.320 start fixating on how uncomfortable it is it make out scenes is like whatever typically it's a closed set
00:31:52.000 yeah when you're doing those kinds of scenes so they try to really just keep an intimacy coordinator
00:31:57.280 maybe a hair and makeup person yeah you're deep like it's closed but for a threesome scene in
00:32:04.140 particular right like there's so much choreography yeah like you don't look the way you think you're
00:32:09.800 looking when you're fucking like you you you think you're looking good like you're not looking and
00:32:14.740 you're like in your natural state it's terrible right and you got like a camera coming over here you
00:32:19.080 got a camera at this angle and you're like okay how do I block this to not look to look like I'm
00:32:23.940 enjoying it yeah to not be nervous so there's like you're thinking of so many things and sometimes you
00:32:30.040 do have the freedom to just like really be in the moment and just go crazy but so much of it is there's
00:32:34.720 so much blocking it's so technical yeah it is really uncomfortable and actually the when my boyfriend
00:32:40.780 and I went on our first date yeah I was so fed up with I had dated male actors in the past
00:32:46.440 they're the fucking most insecure I guarantee not a blanket statement but I will say you would think
00:32:52.720 that when you date somebody in the same industry they would understand yeah I was in a not a great
00:32:59.180 relationship uh and I would like have to go do this shit and it was like this weird jealousy thing I'm
00:33:05.220 like dude I'm getting a check like this is not whatever yeah one of us needs to be employed it's
00:33:09.480 like stage fight like someone someone needs to make money yeah you want to go make money or right
00:33:13.780 you want to do it please so I'm I was so frustrated at this point and and the first thing I like belted
00:33:19.620 out to my current boyfriend on our first date was like hey I'm on a show right now I'm fucking a lot
00:33:23.400 of people and I'm having threesomes and he just was like yeah it's your job and he works in the realm
00:33:28.260 of Hollywood just on the other side and he was like yeah I get it it's like there's nothing sexy
00:33:33.020 about it at all alluring in any way at all it's awkward it's very weird I really don't look forward
00:33:38.840 to those yeah days all you can do is like take a shot yeah rip a joint and just have fun that's it
00:33:46.020 that's good and just hope a sag rep doesn't show up honestly gonna take the advice I'm gonna take it
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00:34:26.140 Sephora oh well speaking of I actually have a horror story I had a little bit of PTSD when I
00:34:30.040 drove over here the studio or I used to audition over here yeah I haven't been over here and I don't
00:34:34.560 leave the house yeah um there's a studio over here I auditioned for there was a huge show that sorry
00:34:41.020 there was a show that was supposed to come out this was maybe 2016 27 17 I go out for the show I'm aware
00:34:50.040 of like everybody that's going out for the show people that are working on the show it's people I knew
00:34:54.220 from Nickelodeon it's like I had I had no reps at the time I dropped my whole team I was you know raw
00:35:01.180 dog in this stuff and I was like okay this is a everything checks out this is a legit production
00:35:07.000 yeah I get pinned as like top two to play the the the leads love interest now I should have fucking
00:35:14.880 known because the writer was also the director was also the lead okay okay some like weird dude from
00:35:21.820 Dallas I was like I should have known then but like actor brain was like nope I have to like this
00:35:26.340 is my rent yeah yeah um make talk to top two I'm amped about it I go in for a chemistry read yeah
00:35:32.760 with him with him okay and this guy there's like there's no world in which I would play this man's
00:35:39.820 love interest like there's just there's just no it was this wasn't satirical there was just like
00:35:45.960 this dude was like three times my age it wasn't was never gonna happen but again actor brain was
00:35:52.940 like just do what you gotta do so I show up and one of my mutuals that had worked on Nickelodeon
00:36:00.060 was kind of like everybody thought this was legit he's like all right we're gonna do a chemistry read
00:36:04.640 I'm like okay I have to kiss this guy I'm like yeah it's a little weird this is not usually how the
00:36:09.040 chemistry reads that's fine um and then I booked the part and I'm like oh my god I'm booked the part it's
00:36:14.200 gonna shoot in Texas great awesome let me know and then he's like oh we're I'm gonna take you out
00:36:20.020 and explain ends up writing me a check for my time this was like $250 but at the time I was like
00:36:26.140 $250 yeah writes me a check come to find out maybe like two months later backstage puts out a like do
00:36:34.560 not work order with this production this guy just goes leave LA gone I end up talking to like four
00:36:40.820 mutual girlfriends all of which who also booked the lead who also had to do this chemistry read who
00:36:47.740 also got a check for $250 to go oh my god yeah fucking horrifying right right over on this set down
00:36:55.720 and then they're like and women have a problem with working with men in this industry it was I was like
00:37:01.520 and when men oh my god when the me too movement started and then there was like a couple men who
00:37:06.100 were like I don't know just now I'm afraid because what if I'm working right right shut the fuck up
00:37:11.100 dude there's and there's and there's so much of that too I know and as and like here's the thing
00:37:16.240 when you're you know it's it's a weird you're doe-eyed you you come usually from somewhere that's not LA
00:37:22.820 you come here you want to make it big you want to like pay your rent and you kind of think this is
00:37:28.200 just how it goes yeah this is part of it yeah and it's fucking terrible and manipulative yeah and
00:37:34.020 exploitive like which is why I think first of all I think it was wonderful that your mom was with you
00:37:38.800 when you were a child because it was even crazier back then and second of all that's why I think
00:37:43.960 you're like coming out the other side with an even stronger head on your shoulders because you're like
00:37:49.000 yeah you're not fooling me yeah oh well that's what it is too and like I had a really young mom
00:37:54.120 so you know my mom had me really young even growing up like I couldn't get away with shit
00:37:59.340 that my friends could get away because I'm like my mom was my age like five years ago like
00:38:03.320 she knows I'm lying I said that about my mom too my mom was young when she had us I couldn't get
00:38:08.640 away with fucking shit so especially when she was out here we knew nothing about Hollywood
00:38:13.020 there was definitely a lot of times where people tried to like cuck us but I always I felt like I was
00:38:19.440 always sharp even as a kid and and yeah it's an adult it's an adult industry you have to
00:38:24.100 have parents with you and my mom followed me around I I never took a meeting by myself I never
00:38:30.040 was on set by myself and you know unfortunately she's just so far up your ass that's how it has
00:38:34.620 to be 100 percent yeah need that you need that need my mom yeah at the time I was like get away
00:38:40.140 well also like everybody wanted to hook up with my mom too like we would have like my mom it's really
00:38:46.740 making it weird for me dude it was like I'm like dude she's got a husband man like it's my dad but
00:38:50.820 you know like we had all the Friday Fridays on all that we had like live performances so we had
00:38:56.820 like all of like you know Nick Lachey and Ja Rule and whoever was hot during the time and like
00:39:03.860 without a fucking doubt they would always hit on my mom and I'm like I'm literally the funniest kid in
00:39:09.260 America like and no one gives a fuck because of my mom yeah my mom's face card is distracting my
00:39:16.040 fucking Carmella man thank god for Carmella though love you mom I know thank god if you was there any
00:39:22.180 movies that you were like yes oh I would have loved to be in that stick it so stick it was out when I
00:39:27.020 was doing all that and I was wanted to be an Olympian gymnast at the time I was at I was almost junior
00:39:32.160 Olympics when I was on all that and I had to let go of I tried to train in LA and it was a bust
00:39:37.340 um but that casting yeah that casting was happening while I was doing all I was just way too young and
00:39:43.340 I remember I found out about Mike you gotta get me that audition and they were like you're literally
00:39:47.340 like 20 years too young for this movie I'm like it's fine I'll be 20 um that was oh they can play
00:39:51.640 young but I can't play old right please okay make it make sense that was the one that I was like damn
00:39:57.820 but it's crazy I like I wasn't an actor by any means because once I was doing that things started
00:40:04.000 getting really serious all these big agencies wanted to rep me and I was going in for like
00:40:07.980 law and order and pretty heavy roles yeah and I would I remember and it's and now I wonder
00:40:15.780 it made me think a lot about child actors because I did comedy and only comedy but I would read I
00:40:22.460 learned a lot about fucked up shit that happens because of reading sides um if it was like like I
00:40:30.520 went in for a daughter that was sexually abused by her father and I didn't know what that was until I
00:40:37.380 read this script and I remember I read it and I started crying and I was like I this is gross like
00:40:43.280 I just felt I couldn't distinguish the acting and the difference the real yeah and I never went out for
00:40:49.400 those roles as a kid but it's very interesting how that that doesn't have an effect on you as a kid
00:40:56.380 because you a lot of kids do have like their first kiss yeah on set or it's a weird it's hard to kind
00:41:02.760 of tell the difference so I stick to the fun of the ha-has the hee-hees the gigglies yeah I I'm with
00:41:07.920 you on that one yeah yeah I feel that I I even like I had a Samantha Hanratty on the show a while ago and
00:41:14.540 she was in so many kids shows like on both Disney and Nickelodeon and she was telling me how crazy it was
00:41:21.020 too and she was she told me about like her first time on set of The Suite Life of Zack and Cody she
00:41:25.720 was like in a whole series of episodes with them and I was like she was explaining it to me and I was
00:41:30.300 like as a kid that would have rocked my world oh yeah I would have been like I'm the coolest person
00:41:37.580 oh yeah like your mentality about you on all that like I would have felt the same way I had I mean I
00:41:42.800 had a mom that I had a mom that kept me grounded like I'd be like I'm the shit she's like you're not
00:41:46.860 sit the fuck down and be like okay and you're like perfect perfect perfect she'd get me like
00:41:50.360 two I actually remember my first interview was with Variety after they like announced I won all
00:41:55.240 that and then Variety's like how does it uh what are your plans I don't even fucking remember it's
00:42:00.380 like me and my mom and they're like what are your plans now that your daughter's like gonna be the
00:42:03.920 biggest child star and my mom said we're gonna keep her grounded and I said in the interview I said
00:42:09.220 I'm grounded and she was like no we're gonna keep you grounded I was like fuck I hate this shit I'm
00:42:14.660 going home like what do you mean I just won the I'm the funniest kid in America what I do what's
00:42:19.080 your like what's your is your like genre comedy like what do you yeah as of right now yeah I've
00:42:24.220 had a couple that were a little more on the serious side but nothing terribly serious not
00:42:29.840 like house of the dragon serious it was more like it's a little sad yeah like that kind of thing but
00:42:34.920 it's mostly been comedy like and I've done a few voiceover things too like auditions as well
00:42:39.820 for like adult cartoons I've gotten quite a few for kids cartoons for like Nickelodeon which I've
00:42:46.340 been like yes but also no because I feel like just my branding and everything around it doesn't
00:42:53.160 really jive well with kids stuff which I like I would love to I think in theory if I did like a
00:42:58.740 big Pixar film or something like that but they were for like actual kids shows that are like on like
00:43:03.340 bluey yeah okay like during bluey time and I was like I just don't think I don't want people to look
00:43:07.760 me up and being like yeah I don't think you have a really good voice for voiceover and voiceover I
00:43:13.980 will say is like the one of the most fun corners of that's what some of my friends have told me who
00:43:18.960 I've done it oh my god it's a blast yeah and there's no ego you go to like I remember there's
00:43:23.420 like a honestly there's a bunch of dads that kind of work all the jobs yeah and you show up and it's
00:43:29.020 just like a dad in sweatpants and like you show up to work in sweats there's no ego at all you get
00:43:33.880 to have like a lot of fun with voiceover that's so fun I I'm excited about voiceover I've done a
00:43:39.180 couple auditions for adult cartoons those are sick which I think is pretty fun they're like
00:43:43.220 Bob's Burger family guy-esque which I think that's too yeah oh you'd be so good at that thank you
00:43:48.960 I think you got a great voice for voiceover too I actually think now that I'm thinking about it
00:43:52.480 and I'm listening to you talk I realized that we I think we both read for the same Marshalls
00:43:56.840 commercial did we really because they sent me your tape as an example they were like that's kind
00:44:03.260 of shade they will to mirror essentially like they were saying oh this is what we're looking for but
00:44:09.440 it was your voice and I remember hearing can you imagine if they were like we're not going to cast
00:44:13.580 her but can you just replicate this voice yeah they were like this one is ass in case you want
00:44:17.880 to know what to do yeah don't do anything this bitch did so I think I think I was going to say you
00:44:23.740 have a great voice for voiceover too but I feel like that's why you've done voiceover stuff before
00:44:27.280 and that's cool to know it's really fun it's so fun I think that's tea it's so fun okay I have some
00:44:31.880 fun facts about you oh would you like to hear them even though I feel like I don't have a choice
00:44:36.120 well the first one is obviously that you won Nickelodeon's funniest kid in America yeah and you
00:44:41.140 placed in the top five obviously also we have you wanted to be an Olympic gymnast what were your
00:44:46.720 specialties bars and floor tea yeah okay miss tumbler I actually lost my virginity to the balance
00:44:53.560 beam that's a fun fact I actually don't think I've publicly ever said that yeah I uh damn Hyman
00:44:58.860 smashed on that thing dude bad shit I did a back tuck straddled it I said I'm bleeding and then I
00:45:06.940 remember my coach was like internally or externally I was like what are those words girl fuck if I know
00:45:11.860 like there's blood coming out of this area and then I will never forget one of my other coaches
00:45:17.760 made a joke that at the time went over my head she's like well I hope she can reproduce and then
00:45:23.000 okay later in life when I was having sex right my cherry never popped and I go I think that's what
00:45:28.960 happened there yeah I don't know if I can reproduce I haven't made it to that point in my life but
00:45:32.820 the clues together on your own later on but but but uh but bars and floor okay fucking hated the
00:45:39.980 vaults yeah and you know I I it's a love-hate relationship with the beam I'm so jealous I
00:45:45.120 love gymnasts I think you guys are some of the most athletic people in the world it was it like I will
00:45:49.780 say I think that's where I get all of my I think I'm a very disciplined person and I 100% get that from
00:45:56.020 being a gymnast because that was like back in the day where there was like no restrictions on like how
00:46:00.400 how intense a coach could be you know like they used to we used to do like splits and they would
00:46:07.960 put encyclopedias on our feet to train the bone to just bend enough and that was just like normal
00:46:15.880 and I'd go to school and be like what'd you guys do today and they're like we play with rocks and
00:46:19.920 I'm like oh sick I got encyclopedias on my bones like I don't know if that's they're binding my feet
00:46:24.320 yeah it's fine in my gymnast class that's cool though okay athlete yeah and I know you box a lot
00:46:30.960 yeah been doing martial arts since with Amex platinum access to exclusive Amex pre-sale tickets can score
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00:46:49.520 conditions apply learn more at Amex.ca slash why Amex 2015 cool I've uh kind of dabbled in all of
00:46:57.480 them and now I just do Muay Thai and boxing my man boxes it's a do you no I can't because of the
00:47:04.200 nails oh yeah it's so hard to do with nails yeah so and I I work too much so I'm like I'm employed
00:47:10.460 I was like if I ever do like get rid of the nails for anything yeah I want to try yeah but my man's
00:47:17.480 been boxing I think now for like two ish almost three years yeah he loves it's the best it's like
00:47:22.600 the best it really is the best I know and he and he like loves anything athletic anyways I feel like
00:47:27.300 you're a pretty athletic person obviously you are because you were a gymnast well I was just saying
00:47:30.160 before I walked in here I like really I'm I'm really trying to like lower my cortisol but like
00:47:35.340 everything that I love spikes my cortisol and boxing is one of them and I'm just like constantly
00:47:40.180 in fight or flight like I just don't know what need that yeah that yeah you need that stimulation
00:47:45.120 I really do I really do that's you getting the zoomies when you go there I'm just constantly
00:47:49.620 in zoomies you just gotta work it out constantly in zoomies otherwise who knows what I'll do I can't
00:47:53.940 be calm it's scary it's funny I was on on like a phone call the other night and I was like really
00:47:58.340 angry and my boyfriend was like were you like popping off I was like no worse I was silent he's
00:48:03.180 like oh shit I don't even know what that's like I'm like you don't want to know it's scary
00:48:08.080 yeah I went to a Rams game the other day okay um because they invited me and I love I love
00:48:14.560 hanging out with the Rams because they put me on the jumbotron and that's really all I need what
00:48:17.900 are you doing what's your like jumbotron move I always get nervous oh I do I they told me to dance
00:48:22.780 so I was like any dance and they said yeah so I was just kind of switching it up I was like doing
00:48:26.700 the gritty okay I was hitting them folks okay you know just kind of the dougie again range this one
00:48:32.200 yeah I don't remember what that one's called it's a shoo-in yeah so I was just kind of doing like
00:48:36.420 all the all the ones that little shithead kids do on fortnight that's what I was kind of just
00:48:40.900 the renegade yeah over and over and over again yeah they put me on the jumbotron so many times
00:48:46.160 that when I left this was like back in December when I went to a Rams game um and they put me on
00:48:51.600 the jumbotron like at least 10 times and I'm thinking to myself I'm like well the odds of like
00:48:56.940 a bunch of my fans being here are probably kind of low right like I know my audience right some of
00:49:02.480 them probably know but then I got endless amounts of tags of people watching me on the jumbotron
00:49:08.100 and even when I left the Rams game this old man he was probably like in his 50s he goes hey I know
00:49:14.020 you which is scary when a straight man says that to me and then I go do you and he goes you're the
00:49:19.120 girl from the jumbotron and then I go yeah right papa I am and he goes you're famous and then I go
00:49:25.820 period and then I got in the car and left but this most recent time I went to a Rams game I was sitting
00:49:32.420 next to someone well I was sitting in the in the little box and like there was someone in there
00:49:37.260 who was really really really fucking rude and I think because she I think she was racist I'm just
00:49:42.940 gonna say is this a great was this a creator were you like amongst creators no she was she's a singer
00:49:47.060 got it um but I only know one of her songs so I you know but anyway she was being really really rude
00:49:52.560 and I think it's because she thought I stole her seat I didn't there's no assigned seats anyways
00:49:56.660 that's besides the point you were talking about cortisol being raised right when I was sitting there
00:50:00.680 I'm not even kidding because I have done a lot of work in therapy to not be to not lash out
00:50:05.180 yeah right to not to lash out I'm trying my best like and so when she was talking a lot of shit
00:50:11.700 and was like trying not to like address me even though I knew she was talking about me
00:50:16.060 I swear to god my aura ring was said that I was stressed for 25 minutes like they said my bpm was
00:50:22.120 really high because and it's not because I'm scared or nervous it's literally because that's how
00:50:26.860 angry I get you're swallowing your so I have to tell myself you need to calm down other people know
00:50:32.600 you in this thing like I'm literally telling myself you need to calm down like I literally
00:50:36.980 like I start sweating it's you be the aura ring man just me and my aura ring right now and I'm like
00:50:42.820 me me tapping my chest trying to ground myself I'm like I need to calm down see I can't have one of
00:50:47.100 those I need to calm down I can't have one of those I just I just started therapy by the way
00:50:51.780 dude why and how's it going terrible I literally like session one I or session two maybe I don't
00:51:00.360 fucking know yeah I got so nervous that I was talking about myself too much that like I just
00:51:05.080 like trauma dumped and then I was like so like uh what about you what's like and you what's new
00:51:11.220 with you this is 300 an hour bitch you better start speaking I'm like okay good I'm like so you
00:51:15.840 married like I know literally same with my therapist I literally sometimes I try to make
00:51:20.980 her laugh yeah same same same I can't help it but sometimes when I do get her a little bit I
00:51:26.660 literally go got her and then I like I like forget what I was saying like I was like oh fuck what was
00:51:32.220 I saying oh right right trauma trauma yes sure I do that with this lady at the post office I love
00:51:37.900 my favorite thing though is like cracking people that are like just hard nuts to crack same and they're
00:51:43.780 my favorite people and I just because I just feel like they're so misunderstood and I feel like I
00:51:48.320 want to I want to understand yeah I have this one lady at the post office never smiles never never like
00:51:53.820 and I've been going there for four or five years now and I think I finally got her to like she just
00:51:58.800 gave me like a half a honestly yeah she might have like kind of had like a mini stroke I don't I
00:52:03.620 but I took it as like a laugh and I was I same thing I was like gotcha bitch give me that tracking
00:52:08.300 see you next week I got your ass didn't I I literally like my therapist the other day well
00:52:14.880 obviously therapy it's fun but not yeah um she told me because I was telling her I talk about like
00:52:21.020 being a public person and like struggling with no privacy and shit like that and she told me
00:52:25.900 yeah you know because I told her when I feel upset at having no privacy I feel ungrateful yeah and that
00:52:32.380 makes me feel like I might lose everything because I'm being ungrateful like the universe will punish me
00:52:35.700 kind of thing and she goes yeah those are called double binds like when you feel like damned if
00:52:39.840 you do damned if you don't yeah so the psychological term for it is double binds and I'm like okay
00:52:43.500 and then she goes and actually you know statistically speaking in women when you frequently encounter
00:52:48.340 double binds you uh enter psychosis pretty quickly in women especially she tells me that I go oh right
00:52:55.780 what am I doing with this information now so she goes so like if you feel like you are going like
00:53:01.620 insane like it's probably because you are you are to an extent and I said oh you said are you available
00:53:08.300 tomorrow from the double session she didn't say insane I said that but I was like okay so if I feel
00:53:13.340 like I'm going crazy it's because I am and she's like respectfully yeah and then she was like okay so
00:53:18.640 same time next week yeah and I'm like dude it's it's sometimes she like sometimes she asks me
00:53:25.100 questions and I'm like Regina please like I didn't come here to like critically think I know you're
00:53:31.000 like literally whose side are you on some shit and you fix me like she's asking me like so well
00:53:35.680 would this happen I go I can't I don't know I can't do this with you right now like I'm honestly
00:53:39.860 going through a lot right now it's I'm going through a lot you're supposed to make shit better
00:53:42.940 that's your job I'm paying you $300 for 50 not even an hour 50 minutes yeah get to working fix me
00:53:48.600 please please please no I can't I get that and then I now I start um it's close to my house so I
00:53:54.620 I I walk now because I'm like it might be the only time I get outside so then I'm there's this one
00:54:00.560 fucking hill I gotta go up before I get to her office so I'm so winded when I get there there is
00:54:06.900 nothing more awkward than like trying to like really explain what's going on and trauma while you're
00:54:11.820 winded you're like so yeah yesterday like yes yesterday I was I had pit stains in my sweatshirt
00:54:19.500 I was at the edge of my seat I like was stressed because I was six minutes late and again I only
00:54:24.020 got 50 so I'm like I'm all right I gotta hurry up and tell you what the fuck's going on yeah I'm
00:54:28.360 winded I'm crying I'm like this is it's just it's too much for me can you crack a window in here
00:54:33.040 yeah it's a little hot can we turn that air down a bit I can't really think straight
00:54:36.940 I get it man I'm working I get it and I get I get not leaving the house too yeah I'm also actively
00:54:46.160 working on that in therapy yeah I was like I think I'm going through a gray garden situation right now
00:54:50.720 yeah I told her like I'm two steps from moving my mom into this house and letting it go to shit I'm
00:54:56.580 two steps letting vines grow in the windows and shit I'm really close dude that's great I'm I'm one
00:55:01.420 foot in I'm not even two steps I'm in it I am where I'm also actively working on that too I get
00:55:07.560 that this job that is one of the bad things about this job is that it well it's the extremes yeah
00:55:12.460 it's like you're either so on and around a million people and schmoozing and doing this or you're like
00:55:18.940 isolated completely alone doing nothing there's no middle ground and there's no one to tell you you
00:55:24.120 should go outside like right you're like it's eight o'clock I never left today or changed or showered
00:55:29.240 or yeah if I look at my location it says I've been there for like 87 hours and I'm like why is
00:55:34.640 no one giving me a wellness check like I haven't left I haven't left the house in four days yeah
00:55:39.480 literally okay I have some more fun facts about you oh god uh it says you used to work the front
00:55:44.280 desk at a gym yep how was that job oh it was hilarious I worked uh was it like franchise gym it
00:55:50.840 was equinox okay tea when I moved out here I worked while I was act trying to act I worked like
00:55:56.360 three or four service jobs at the same time I worked at a hostess at the nice guy which that was
00:56:02.960 hilarious I worked for um this crackhead marketer and I worked at equinox which is where I ended up
00:56:11.180 meeting two of my my closest friends but it was hilarious because it's the equinox that's connected
00:56:15.420 to WME oh so as a struggling actor that was like a like Jeff Goldblum would come in and be like leave
00:56:22.800 his Bentley key can I leave this at the front and I'd be like yep and then like just all of these
00:56:27.840 people that like I just wanted to be there that was like a really hard ego thing for me of like
00:56:33.880 damn I am making 9.50 an hour and you're catering to like the elite yeah and then at um
00:56:42.820 same thing at nice guy I mean nice guy in its prime that was where I mean you know Drake would
00:56:49.720 come in at two in the morning I will never forget Bob Saget used to come in all the time
00:56:53.080 and I'd be at the front and he'd always come in and be like yeah it's for Bob Saget I'm like yeah Bob
00:56:57.880 I know who you are yeah you don't gotta check in with me right right right right we got you um but it
00:57:02.300 was crazy that job was nuts because I remember like day one they gave me a Rolodex of thousands of
00:57:08.860 people that I had to know by face because essentially we only had 19 tables at the nice
00:57:13.060 guy yeah and we would save most of those reservations for friends of the restaurant
00:57:19.200 or a-listers that would come in so I had to know if a random celebrity came up but it's crazy because
00:57:24.460 a lot of those important people like tech people they all look the same they're all just like some
00:57:29.520 variation of like a white dude yep so I got like week one I got in so much trouble because someone
00:57:34.840 came up and they were like hey can I get a table and I'm like no and they were like oh I was like
00:57:39.700 dude no and then my boss was like that's like the head of some random tech company I'm like dude you
00:57:44.200 lost me well how the fuck was I supposed to know like you said sorry I'm not a virgin and and then
00:57:49.340 I worked both of those jobs and I said you know what yeah I still want to be an actor believe it or
00:57:53.920 not believe it or not I still want to do this how was it working in the Equinox um Equinox actually is
00:58:01.560 is what started my love for boxing all the money that I made at that job I there was um his name
00:58:09.860 was Alon he was the he used to be a boxing coach for the Italian uh Italian boxers he's from Italy
00:58:17.800 oh cool and he it was expensive to do one-on-one training at Equinox I got like a 15 discount so my
00:58:24.660 check every week would go to him and I would have him do one-on-one sessions and that's what started
00:58:29.800 my love for um cool martial arts yeah I love that so I honestly it was good like I really I'm I'm
00:58:36.100 really happy that I like worked as a kid and then I worked in high school I worked through college
00:58:45.880 yeah like normal people yeah because I'm still friends with a lot of people that have acted all
00:58:52.620 the way through and to no fault of their own they're just I'm just appreciative that I understand
00:58:58.720 kind of that world and it makes me the the wins that I would get along the way were like a lot more
00:59:03.980 meaningful that's tea honestly I I think that a lot about just doing this like I I have said before
00:59:10.180 because sometimes people ask me questions I'm like I I mean like I think sometimes people forget like I
00:59:14.080 I was a fully formed adult yeah I started doing this I went through college I worked real totally
00:59:18.660 real jobs I worked shit jobs I had no fucking money I don't come from money so like having all of that
00:59:24.080 experience before I did this I think was like pivotal 100% success and sustaining and all of
00:59:30.460 that like I really do think it worked in my favor yeah that I lived a very normal like I've always said
00:59:35.520 like I was aggressively normal before this happened to me and now I'm not so there you go it just makes
00:59:41.320 those moments a lot sweeter I agree you know you appreciate them a lot more and then you also like
00:59:46.420 realize too what is actually hard right you know what I'm saying because like 100% because when you have
00:59:52.420 when when people get famous very young like whether it's on in influencer world or acting
00:59:57.540 or whatever it's very like oh this is the hardest job in the world which like it's for sure fucking
01:00:02.520 oh like I've had I can promise you it's not the hardest job in the world I can promise you that
01:00:06.320 even with the jobs I've had I know that's not true um but it is to have both of yeah like I've
01:00:11.380 always like described it as like it's it's a job that you could never prepare for the problems that
01:00:16.920 you have with it it's a job that it's unique it's very unique every every job has its problems yeah
01:00:23.580 and I'm not going to sit here and argue what job has the most difficult problems because I
01:00:27.640 am not in the place to do that but what I will say is the jobs that are specific to entertainment
01:00:32.320 are only specific to entertainment exactly so it's very hard to kind of relate to people that compare
01:00:39.980 yeah so that's why like it's really important to find your community and what you do totally because
01:00:44.900 yeah they're just so specific and it's not a matter of like my job's harder than yours it's
01:00:50.020 just they're like you said there's no other job that prepares you for the downfall the downside of
01:00:55.680 what we do yeah especially that's and that's t2 about finding community yeah and that's why you're
01:01:00.320 like I'm still friends with people from before yeah which is t because I've told people like make
01:01:04.020 friends when you start doing this like don't be an asshole like make friends connect with people
01:01:09.420 because no one not only gives a fuck about your problems because the world is hard enough as it is
01:01:14.760 and and being a dickhead online is not a real problem in the grand scheme but also like they
01:01:19.940 just can't relate like they just they don't understand it they don't under they can't relate
01:01:23.920 to your your grievances like what you're upset about and then you sound like a dick when you
01:01:28.220 complain about it to someone who's like a nurse well you probably also relate to this too because
01:01:31.540 I'm I'm in my 30s yeah we're on the older end of the creator yeah yeah we're a thousand years
01:01:37.720 so like when I do this stuff I'm like this is my job like I'm not I'm not going on brand trips
01:01:42.040 because I'm like oh it's a free vacation let me like get drunk with my girlfriends I'm
01:01:45.360 like this is my fucking job I see it the exact same you know what I mean so I think that's
01:01:49.400 also hard too is that so many people in this world are younger and I and I have so many
01:01:54.240 friends that are younger but sometimes it's like the stakes are a little bit different
01:01:58.300 for me than for you because you're 21 like you still if this doesn't work out for you you
01:02:03.060 can go and we're not old but like this is a job and we've lived a thousand lives before
01:02:08.880 this yeah and I ain't going back I'm showing up to I don't know about you girl but I ain't
01:02:12.720 going back I'm not I'm not going back to I burned my bridges already yeah you're right
01:02:16.700 right yeah girl they are burned vikings death I can't go back I burned all the ships we're
01:02:21.360 not yeah no we gotta make this work somehow please we gotta keep this ship afloat yeah you
01:02:25.860 know what I mean I agree with you and I and I'm so glad to be I just turned 30 yeah best
01:02:30.760 best years I'm so glad to be in my 30s I was so sick of being 29 yeah because I literally
01:02:35.820 oh thank you what an awkward age right well this feels like I'm holding on to my 20s it
01:02:39.560 does I wish I like skipped from 28 to 30 yeah because 29 I was like I'm 29 yeah it's like
01:02:44.860 oh well talk to me next year when you know everything I literally have I because my birthday's in
01:02:50.120 September I started telling people I was 30 in January yeah as you should I was like oh
01:02:53.560 I'm 30 like I just started saying it because I was like whatever it's there I can see it
01:02:57.240 I'm so close it's right it's right there no 30s are the best period I'm excited to keep
01:03:03.420 going through okay I have a couple more fun facts okay this one says you had to go through
01:03:08.020 extensive rock climbing training for your role in the movie the sound so I yes I well I rock
01:03:15.280 climbed um I mean listen we lie all the time on auditions do you know how many times like
01:03:20.220 I've gone out for fucking like a baseball movie I'm like nah I've been doing baseball's my life
01:03:24.220 I've been doing this shit my whole life and then you get off that audition you call you go hey
01:03:28.340 I need a favor six months of training right now let's go little leagues um when that audition
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01:04:07.680 what was a boulder and rock climb I used to climb at Malibu Creek outdoors and then honestly just like
01:04:16.940 in would go to I lived above a sender one uh a couple years ago so I would go there all the time
01:04:21.580 um what was crazy about that job is I was supposed to do a lot more climbing for that job
01:04:29.500 what ended up happening is I had x amount of shoot days in Vegas and the my second day shooting
01:04:39.780 we knew that the after strikes were gonna happen oh damn so they were like we need to finish
01:04:44.780 every single scene in the film today oh shit and because tomorrow you can't work and I was
01:04:51.580 booked I had already booked another film so they were like we can't even move like even if this ends
01:04:57.260 we can't even pick up any shots um so it wasn't ended up not being that extensive what was hard
01:05:05.000 is I was possessed in that I became possessed in that film and uh essentially I had to like scale
01:05:13.060 the the side of a of a mountain and I'm like a dick when it comes to like my dream genre is action
01:05:20.240 comedy like I want to be a female Deadpool that's like my dream role um and I want to do my own stunts
01:05:25.460 yeah so when I had a call with everybody they were like well we're gonna do a stunt person I was like
01:05:30.220 fuck a stunt person I'm doing every stunt and my team at the time was like dude they don't have the
01:05:35.080 insurance for that like you're gonna be I'm like fuck it get the insurance I'm whatever the stunt
01:05:38.700 is I'm doing it and harness work like even if you're athletic harness work I have so much respect
01:05:44.640 for stunt people that do harness work how'd you just have a wedgie for well no you know what it was
01:05:48.500 I had to because I was scaling a wall sideways I got harnessed from my side so I was in an oblique
01:05:55.460 crunch for like an hour having to like run on this and I left with all these bruises and it's
01:06:00.800 funny one of the girls there's like a bts video of one of the girls and she's like yo I know
01:06:06.480 Christina's in so much pain right now but she's not complaining because she's from Boston
01:06:09.980 and I was I was in so much pain they were like you good I'm like yeah you're all shit's easy and
01:06:16.680 next time I was like yo next time let the stunt people t but yeah okay you want to do action
01:06:22.300 comedy like love action so like superhero specific or I mean listen I I'll I'll or anything I'll go
01:06:28.960 for whatever I want to play like a I always say kick ass like I would love to play like a grown kick
01:06:34.060 ass just cutting people up with katanas okay doing backflips off cars but then also being funny you
01:06:39.720 know we should do like a new Hobbs and Shaw oh love you're Jason Statham I'm the rock let's obviously
01:06:46.100 the looks are uncanny I had a my original pitch was gonna be the rock and the pebble and I was gonna be the
01:06:51.520 pebble and I would be the rocks like little sidekick there you go and we would do adventures
01:06:55.600 and I'm built like the rock so it's same listen we can well we can write something in we can make it
01:06:59.800 work we'll have teams talk we'll have our people talk have you seen Hobbs and Shaw action no but I
01:07:04.280 but I know it yeah it'd be great we need more um action comedy though I love them me too I it's funny
01:07:11.100 because Hobbs and Shaw at this point is like a hallmark of the show I talk about it so often as if I'm
01:07:15.680 not passionate about it I guess so you could say I am my dream in that kind of vein would be like
01:07:20.180 a buddy comedy yeah like a cop one almost like the heat yeah I love the heat me too I would love
01:07:26.480 to do some shit oh I love I think that would kill the heat is incredible I know and nobody gets that
01:07:31.720 movie no like we do I mean I was gonna say that whole scene when they're in Boston and like the
01:07:35.700 fucking knocks I quote that scene all and everyone's like what are you talking she's just being Boston
01:07:40.300 just let her know that whole that dude it's hilarious you still in Bibles or something yeah oh my
01:07:44.880 I love that movie it's so good oh my god Melissa McCarthy she's my oh yeah same and also Sandra
01:07:51.940 Bullitt though she's a badass like and she's like OG yeah action comedy well then I started getting
01:07:56.360 pissed because I was like a Miss Congeniality with you dude that would kill dead that would you know
01:08:02.800 what I mean like I just I I always say this my my pitch always used to be like oh can like who
01:08:10.320 is the female actress that's super funny but also can do action yeah and I feel like that's a
01:08:17.680 little area that I can sneak into I think a Miss Congeniality remake with you dude and I'm just I
01:08:23.960 just want to be like randomly doing backflips for like like it's a parody of itself like we're just
01:08:29.060 inputting okay Benson Boone yeah you're gonna be on a Benson Boone tip it's Benson Boone just
01:08:35.400 you invented moon the backflip and I'm like yeah everybody's under arrest there's the action
01:08:41.080 there that honestly that would sell yeah that's hilarious okay last fun fact uh your first acting
01:08:47.360 credit was for girl at a party oh my god cat in the hat movie wait hold on I was actually gonna bring
01:08:52.940 this up okay I was never in cat in the hat no you weren't listen to this tea okay listen to this
01:08:59.520 when I was a child when I was in all that all of a sudden my IMDB was like girl at the party at
01:09:06.400 cat in the hat fucking love cat in the hat and then this before AI I was like am I AI'd into this
01:09:12.720 movie so I remember I went home and me and my mom watched the movie and then we watched the party scene
01:09:18.620 and we would rewind it rewind it we're looking around I'm like what the fuck it's like Paris Hilton's in
01:09:22.600 it to this day people come up to me and they're like I loved you in cat in the hat what do they
01:09:29.080 think you're Dakota I don't fucking know I think they think you're Dakota Fanny here's the thing
01:09:33.680 like I'll take the extra IMDB credit right you know what I mean like especially when I was trying
01:09:37.740 to act I'm like I'll take I'll be girl at the party like fuck throw that shit on my throw that
01:09:41.700 shit on my star meter yes I was her I never was in cat in the hat and to this day people are like
01:09:46.560 great work and cat in the hat girl at a party and I play it I'm like thanks man like yeah give me the
01:09:51.960 fucking credit I was never in that shit not even a name to girl at the party I'm like maybe they
01:09:58.460 think I'm Paris Hilton I don't know but I was 10 like that was the only girl at the party was Paris
01:10:02.980 Hilton that would be so funny too I do it's a great movie I would expect you'd be that's why I was like
01:10:08.120 you know what keep it I'm not even gonna refute it IMDB because that's a good fucking movie and it's
01:10:12.720 probably true I don't know yeah I mean I don't know maybe I'm CGI'd into there I don't fucking know
01:10:16.680 I don't remember yeah I wear glasses I can't speaking I had like a recent idea I'm like
01:10:21.700 instead of an obstacle course we should just do an optical course everybody takes off their glasses
01:10:25.180 everybody just takes off their glasses and just go I have terrible vision in context yeah like I have
01:10:31.020 clear context but like I I truly like like what are you working with I'm I think I'm a negative like
01:10:38.260 1.8 I've been 1 and then a negative like 2 is that astigmatism yeah okay I do have one of those
01:10:45.640 okay my vision is so dog shit like and when I was in high school I used to literally be like I only
01:10:51.200 need to wear my glasses to drive at night that's not true no it's not the fact that I was free
01:10:55.500 balling to school it's anyone's guess how I got there but I literally was like I only need those
01:11:00.360 at night and I remember like I wore glasses my whole life I was actually just like not seeing anything
01:11:06.560 ever and my mom like my teacher told my mom I think she needs glasses because I was like always
01:11:12.380 like squinting and she asked me what do you do in school when you can't read the board and I said I
01:11:16.280 just asked the person next to me what it says and I've done that my whole life I'm like can you tell me
01:11:20.280 what that says and even when I go to restaurants like and there's menus up there if and I don't
01:11:24.600 have my contacts in my sister goes this is what the menu says and she like explains it to me wait
01:11:28.960 but do you like wearing contacts I feel like it's so hard like I feel like my vision's better when I
01:11:33.260 have my glasses I don't mind wearing contacts because when I went to college I went to school
01:11:37.920 in Hawaii and like wearing my glasses they would fog up because I'm I'm a sweaty ass bitch so I was like
01:11:43.740 fuck I gotta start wearing my contacts all the time now can you get LASIK if you have a
01:11:46.940 stigmatism um I think they don't recommend it because it'll come back I'm too afraid to do that
01:11:51.720 to be honest I'm like I'll wear contacts and glasses for the rest of my life yeah you wear
01:11:54.960 dailies or you what are you doing with these I do monthlies okay yeah so like and I do have glasses
01:11:59.040 and it's funny because the glasses I have now well I had two pairs and I lost my favorite pair
01:12:03.620 and the other the only pair I have left which is I need them right like when I don't wear my contacts
01:12:08.200 they are so ugly and I don't know what I was thinking when I was in the glasses store I don't know
01:12:13.320 if something came over me and I was like let me try a new style I'm a dumbass but they literally
01:12:17.520 look identical to the glasses that the babysitter in the cat in the hat live action movie wears are
01:12:22.740 those the big circle yeah the big giant square coke bottle yeah I don't know kind of iconic I
01:12:27.780 they look identical to the babysitter from the cat in the hat which is you want my credit let's put
01:12:32.080 you in the fucking I'm the babysitter babysitter I'm the old woman babysitter and you're a girl at
01:12:38.020 the party yeah yeah it's perfect checks out to me sounds like a great Hollywood flick well well
01:12:44.340 to close us out yeah do you have any advice for any aspiring actors and or creators who maybe want
01:12:50.220 to try acting but might be a little nervous about it for what I think are obvious reasons
01:12:54.020 I mean listen I really have hated my whole life when people say like stay authentic because I'm like
01:13:03.980 what does that mean like how can I be anything else other than myself right but I think it's very easy
01:13:10.160 when you are an artist to let your ego get involved and to let the rejection
01:13:19.380 change how you make art or why you make art or what kind of art you make and the second you start
01:13:29.040 making art for other people other than yourself your job is not going to be sustainable and I think
01:13:35.780 understanding and accepting that no and rejection and people challenging what you do is meaning that
01:13:43.840 you're on the right path yeah and if you can just find ways to remind yourself why you love doing what
01:13:49.740 you do and only create for yourself that's the only way to have longevity and to to not fall out of
01:13:58.240 love with the thing that you do and the reality is is you only need one fucking person to like you
01:14:02.120 you only need one yes you don't need everybody to like you you don't need everybody to understand
01:14:06.040 you you just need one person to believe in you and put your energy into those people that don't
01:14:12.040 make you feel like you have to change who you are to do what you do that's so true yeah put that shit
01:14:15.740 it's very like lady gaga 99 people cannot believe in you her same you only her same she I'll tell you
01:14:21.020 what though she commits to that bit man it's true though it's true and I've I've said even even doing
01:14:26.740 this like the other things I've branched off and done outside of social sometimes my team will be
01:14:32.420 like well you know sometimes it doesn't really work that way sometimes we don't and I'm like that's
01:14:36.500 okay let's just try it because I believe in me that's why I was like I just need 15 minutes of
01:14:40.720 their time I promise you they're going to want to work 100% I'm always like you got to meet me in
01:14:44.400 person yeah that's you need to experience my aura in person and you really and you really have to
01:14:49.080 like um I what I really regret I try not to regret anything but I've recently talked about this on
01:14:55.080 social what I what I really regret about the time that I just committed to being an actor I really
01:15:02.320 regret that I didn't take the nose as a sign that it was just a redirection and I was I always let my
01:15:10.540 ego get involved and every no like made me feel like I'm not good enough how can I turn your no
01:15:16.500 to a yes when in reality I'm not supposed to be over there good riddance to that I'm supposed to be
01:15:22.100 over here and I'm wasting so much time and the second I started being like okay if it's not meant
01:15:27.220 for me fuck it I'm gonna go over here that's when like so much stuff opened so don't be afraid of the
01:15:32.100 nose it's like part of where you're going yeah it's like what's meant for me will be for me 100%
01:15:37.080 and follow your fucking gut if something feels weird it's weird that's so true I and I've said
01:15:41.660 before sometimes when people are like oh how did you know like when you you know made it like got
01:15:46.540 signed that kind of thing um like what changed and I was like honestly nothing changed nobody wanted
01:15:51.100 to touch me forever because of how controversial I was and contentious I was and then I got too big
01:15:56.660 to ignore I said that's how I did it I said make your own path like that's really you get to a point
01:16:01.940 where like yeah you can either get on this shit or you can watch me sail into the sunset and look
01:16:07.500 at you girl you took that shit you're like fuck this I'm gonna do it myself oh it's so and it's
01:16:11.420 so empowering even better it's so empowering to say no see well I'm so happy thanks for having me
01:16:16.540 drew it was a blast it was look at us we cared about everything sad here now we decided we're
01:16:21.760 gonna do buddy comedy together yeah no we're pitching it the rock and Jason Statham yeah that could
01:16:26.380 be us catch us in the theater near you yeah or you and Miss Congeniality I honestly think that
01:16:31.100 would kill I'm gonna volley for that for you tell your people to make a call I think you would be
01:16:36.600 badass all right done Sandra hit me up I'll be a body double let's go T thank you so much for watching
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