The Comment Section with Drew Afualo


IT'S NOT ALWAYS FOR YOU | Drew Afualo ft. JStoobs | THE COMMENT SECTION EP 38


Summary

In this episode of the Comment Section Show during spooky season starring megan cruz aka jstube aka Jstube, I m so excited to introduce you to my very wonderful amazing guest Megan Cruz aka J Stubes aka JStube. Jstubes is a standup comedian, writer, podcaster, editor, and all-around wonderful human being. He is a true inspiration to me and I am so excited for you to meet him!


Transcript

00:00:00.000 then my night's ruined because i'm wikipedia-ing silos and i'm looking up statistics and i'm like
00:00:05.020 how often do people die in silos like is this common like how did he get in there like i'm
00:00:09.280 literally like i didn't even watch the rest of the movie i was too busy going silo death like
00:00:14.160 i'm like wikipedia-ing it myself hey everyone and welcome back to another episode of the comment
00:00:23.140 section show during spooky season starring me your favorite gym bro hey look at that my sound guy
00:00:29.800 hates that sorry today i am so excited to introduce you to my very wonderful amazing guest
00:00:37.220 megan cruz aka jstube we were just talking about your name oh yeah we were yeah it's it's funny
00:00:45.660 because anytime i introduce myself even it's just as megan to people i feel like it throws them off
00:00:49.580 they're like what yeah no you're jstubes exactly i've accepted it do you have a story behind that
00:00:55.720 name uh people always ask me the origin behind my name and it's like it's literally it's just
00:00:59.660 based on nicknames that i had because my first initial is j and then my it's not even my last
00:01:05.500 name anymore my maiden name stoops was like a nickname that i had from that oh cute so okay so
00:01:10.880 it is technically a name yeah it's just not your name now yeah and i still i kept it as my as one
00:01:16.880 of my middle names because my name was not complicated enough before i also have always
00:01:20.280 gone by my middle name yeah so whenever i get a call from like a bank or something they're like is
00:01:25.280 janet there you're all no she's dead there's no janet here jstubes is here though
00:01:30.660 you just put that on all your government that's why i i literally saw your name and i was like
00:01:36.420 megan cruz and then i looked i was like oh jstubes got it that is an incredibly common reaction
00:01:42.380 yeah yeah i immediately was like oh god got it got it got it okay okay locked in the film guru
00:01:49.000 i absolutely adore your takes oh i adore your takes i watch them start to finish like genuinely
00:01:54.700 i watch them when you when new things come out i'm like i gotta see what jstubes thinks that's
00:01:59.120 actually impressive because i really abuse the three minute feature on tiktok you and me both babe
00:02:04.140 so i'm always impressed when people watch my whole videos because i'm like
00:02:07.800 i i a bitch can be wordy you know same you're telling me but the amount of times i've had to like
00:02:13.800 i'm like damn i've got three already i gotta start over i know that's why i have thousands of drafts
00:02:18.340 like i have so many drafts because i'm like fuck i didn't get to finish i didn't get to fit everything
00:02:22.040 in there i gotta start over the absolute worst is when i am optimistic and i'm like i can make a
00:02:27.700 one minute video i can i can do it and then you start and you're like it's never gonna happen i
00:02:32.260 don't know how i did it before i really don't because i i was fitting it into one minute like
00:02:36.720 prior like i didn't get three minutes till like late last year so i was creating content all 2021
00:02:43.100 with one minute features i don't know how i did that i truly like i look back at my i mean and that's
00:02:47.580 the other thing is like i look back at some of my old videos and i'm like oh wow i've really
00:02:51.800 evolved me too you know it's like and just like the adjusting to the format of it i feel like i
00:02:58.300 look back and i'm like that was a clunky like editing switch i feel that but like it's also just
00:03:03.620 baffling to me that i ever found anything like because i feel like i try to put like new ones
00:03:07.300 into my takes and i'm like how did i ever say anything remotely meaningful in 60 seconds maybe i
00:03:12.940 didn't same i mean some would argue i never say anything meaningful but you know what that's
00:03:17.740 part of the person really matter no i feel like they do not yeah and i'm one of them today
00:03:21.660 this is quite the look yeah right yeah that's what i'm saying i'm like you know what i'm going
00:03:27.720 balls to the wall for megan i'm wearing and i appreciate that yeah i i was batman before and
00:03:33.340 now i'm a gym bro one and the same i can't think of which of those is scarier honestly
00:03:38.000 no seriously no literally the way that people call me you know that audio when they're like
00:03:43.540 you want some and it's batman beating somebody up that's the amount of people that tagged me in that
00:03:48.060 audio they're like this is you and i was like yeah true i mean yeah and we love you for it yeah
00:03:54.320 there's just beating the shit out of random people that are being awful and then they're like well
00:03:59.080 they're like is he even really a hero me i mean listen i feel like it's important some people
00:04:05.580 just need a little encouragement to be moving on the right path and i feel like yeah exactly like
00:04:11.860 you know if sometimes not all encouragement can be gentle yeah there you go like i live by that
00:04:16.940 i'm a parent you know sometimes you don't have to be like listen kid shape up you just roast your
00:04:23.100 own baby back when he couldn't understand me maybe like yeah he's like whatever it's like crying i'm
00:04:28.300 like oh god you're done yeah oh you're no fun this is rude frankly like i was having a nice morning
00:04:34.700 is your baby into movies he is yeah he's four so now he's like got like a ton of opinions on
00:04:41.800 oh love yeah just like his mama yeah exactly yeah it was funny because i did a i did a review for
00:04:47.540 marcel the shell oh cute did you see it was so cute i haven't seen it but i love marcel the shell
00:04:52.740 it's like it's like the most wholesome movie of the year it's so cute oh love and he went to the
00:04:56.960 theater with me and then i was like recording we had just moved to la so i didn't have my studio set up
00:05:00.780 i was like recording and like a space in our living room yeah and he like heard me and he ran
00:05:04.760 over and he was like i i need to say something about this movie like i loved it and so i'm so
00:05:09.620 glad you brought it up yeah i have lots of notes i've been waiting for this and it was like totally
00:05:13.800 his time to shine he like stole the whole review oh sweet i love do you have a preference as far as
00:05:20.160 like genre of movie film anything like that so for me um i i'm like i i hate choices i'm like one of
00:05:29.240 those people but i do i have always kind of been more mostly drawn to like sci-fi and horror and i
00:05:36.580 love fantasy but i feel like there's never enough good fantasy movies yeah so and then obviously
00:05:40.920 superhero movies i like comic books yeah that was like originally i feel like that's what most people
00:05:46.140 know me for but i also like yeah the your marvel dc takes yeah yeah kind of like is it your takes or
00:05:52.860 is it more so like oh wandavision that was the era that yeah i remember that yeah the good and bad oh
00:05:58.800 it was it it changed the whole app like it changed the whole internet the way people talk about movies
00:06:03.620 yeah the discourse on whether or not she was justified yeah right yeah i remember that yeah it was
00:06:10.920 it's been an interesting year for talking about women in media because we've had a lot of
00:06:15.540 yeah there's a lot of um real life and characters that have just been
00:06:21.600 we've really seen the way people react to to women in general yeah you don't have to guess
00:06:27.700 you don't have to you don't have to dig very hard to figure out how they're feeling about women
00:06:32.860 when specifically their positions in film yeah they they like to make it known and it's it's really
00:06:38.200 it's funny to me because like i feel like like film criticism as a genre and i don't consider myself a
00:06:43.820 critic like i i've talked to my podcast partner juju about this a lot that like um we don't i don't
00:06:51.020 know i feel like being a content creator is like it's its own thing yeah and i also feel like there's
00:06:56.780 like a level of elitism to film criticism yeah it's just like i'm not really here for yeah and
00:07:02.040 i don't i like giving reviews on movies but i don't consider myself a critic and so like
00:07:06.920 film criticism as a whole is is like hugely male dominated and it's literally it's like
00:07:12.500 depending on which study you look at it's generally at least two to one and male men to women
00:07:18.220 yeah and that's not even counting for like the racial disparity like the amount of like black
00:07:21.980 women who are film critics it's like minuscule yeah and then the critics that are working they
00:07:27.360 also it's reflected in their choices like a lot of male film critics just don't see or review movies
00:07:31.640 written and directed by women and it's like it's not like a choice it's like unconscious bias i feel
00:07:36.380 like but it's like it's it's it's an interesting world to intentionally place yourself into knowing
00:07:43.040 that like you're gonna avoid certain films and yeah yeah like i mean like and i'm gonna get people
00:07:49.000 are gonna i i've i've never seen the shawshank redemption it's like interesting yeah a lot of
00:07:53.580 people love it yeah um a lot of my close friends who also make content about movies are like how have
00:07:58.800 you not seen this yeah but i'm just like i don't know like i'll see it one day maybe but like
00:08:03.000 it's not a priority for me and that's t babe and i'm just like i think that's fine i honestly i love
00:08:09.100 that mostly because i feel like a lot of times obviously i'm no film critic clearly but i feel
00:08:15.520 like a lot of times the favorites like movies that are like oh this is the greatest film of all time
00:08:21.200 a lot of times they're male dominated they're male directed they're male written and they're also
00:08:25.560 white men white straight men and it's it's sometimes they're not even really that good like if you
00:08:31.980 really were to break it down they're not that good they are iconic in a way but they're not
00:08:36.280 for everybody and that doesn't mean just because a bunch of straight white men love it that doesn't
00:08:41.000 mean that it's the best movie of all time no exactly yeah if you look at like the imdb top 100 is the
00:08:46.400 list that i always come back to because so many i i get so many people there's like this huge pushback
00:08:52.460 against critics also now people like oh they're so out of touch and i think that there's like you know
00:08:57.160 room on either side of the conversation for like yes i do think the like actual art of film
00:09:03.920 criticism does lean into a bit of elitism not all the time but it's like that's where it originated
00:09:09.800 but at the same time i think you have to be speaking from an educated place in order to
00:09:14.220 give a critique that really is more than surface level yeah and so like it's there's a balance between
00:09:20.060 the two but then like a lot of these like you know i film terms like film bros can be very
00:09:25.800 derogatory but i went to film school so i feel like i can use that i used to be a film bro so like
00:09:30.700 yeah i you know i feel like i can embrace it i'm reclaiming it but like giving it a new name yeah
00:09:36.640 but like the imdb top 100 is literally just like a it's voted on by users it's just people
00:09:41.980 and it's mainly like again imdb is like i think it's like at least 60 percent but i feel like it's higher
00:09:47.920 of their user reviews are written by men yeah and it's like the dark knight rises is in there
00:09:53.260 and like the dark knight trilogy like the dark knight itself i like batman begins i think it's
00:09:58.720 really good yeah i think we can all agree that the dark knight rises is not like a top 100 film
00:10:03.140 of all time of all time you know like it's just probably not but like it's in it's in there because
00:10:08.860 there is a top performance in there i would say yeah i mean there's some really good performances
00:10:13.400 yeah like they like there's an iconic performance yeah doesn't mean it's the best
00:10:17.780 yeah i mean there's there's it's memorable is okay yeah you know what i mean yeah and i just
00:10:23.720 yeah it's like it's interesting because like the kinds of this is something that i i reiterate in
00:10:27.840 my content all the time is that like the kinds of content the kinds of movies and tv that we have
00:10:33.420 celebrated forever yeah we have to understand that that was coming from and it was made by and for one
00:10:40.560 specific audience exactly yeah and it's like now and looking back it's like it's hard to criticize
00:10:46.440 movies that at the time were praised and they were they're great films you know but it's like
00:10:51.820 now everything is mid or like like the film criticism we get today and it's like okay well
00:10:58.180 anybody can get on the internet and say i think this movie's garbage and then all of a sudden
00:11:01.960 everyone's like same i'm glad someone's talking about it as if it's not the most common
00:11:06.380 like critique of the movie as a whole exactly yeah like i i wasn't a film major but i did take
00:11:13.040 like i was a communications major was one of my majors so i like had to take film classes for it
00:11:18.240 and like i watched um citizen kane for the first time i had never seen it oh yeah so i watch it i
00:11:24.540 was bored i'm not gonna lie to you i was so bored but you know what i got it i like watch i'm like i
00:11:29.360 get why this is a movie that people are like such a great film i get it yeah not my cup of tea am i
00:11:35.860 gonna go online and be like you guys are a bunch of idiots thinking this is the best movie all time like
00:11:39.700 no but that's just not my i wouldn't consider that one of the best movies of all time to me
00:11:44.720 in my opinion but who am i that's what i always think like i don't who cares what i think i mean
00:11:49.540 i mean well first of all i think a lot of people care i mean about movies but yeah well i mean like
00:11:55.500 i don't know i feel like yeah i feel like you could do well making a movie uh content i mean i feel
00:11:59.300 like all of your content is just awesome but i'm gonna stop fangirling at some point i love
00:12:04.180 summarizing movies because like sometimes i watch movies and i'm like that was the worst thing i've ever
00:12:09.320 seen in my entire life but i had a i had a good time watching it like yeah like oh i don't want
00:12:13.960 to call out movies that i hate i'm scared well there's one you know the movie the dressmaker
00:12:17.800 with kate winslet yes but i've never seen it so please like oh my god that movie is bizarre great
00:12:24.400 movie but like i'll spill it spoiler spoilers guys for everybody who's really concerned about
00:12:31.320 spoilers for the dressmaker for the dressmaker probably like 2015 click off so like this movie i can't
00:12:37.780 believe they had the juice to get her in this movie because she is obviously a top tier talent
00:12:41.720 she was great in it she never misses ever but her love interest i think was liam i almost said liam
00:12:47.540 neeson liam hemsworth i think that's who it was that's an interesting pairing yeah yeah so then i was
00:12:53.380 like okay well whatevs right go off girl yeah queen love it but he like is like a farm hand of some kind
00:13:00.320 and like they live in australia okay i presume she makes dresses yes she makes the most extravagant
00:13:05.640 dresses and like she ends up dressing the whole town i forget the whole movie but the only part
00:13:09.660 that sticks in my head is like he works on this farm and he has brothers or whatever and like he
00:13:15.540 falls in one of those silos that has like grain in it oh those are like really deadly yeah drowns
00:13:22.060 suffocates i couldn't believe i was like what like it's just so random like he falls in and he's like
00:13:28.000 and he dies and then i'm like and she's like oh grieving and then she like gets goes back to
00:13:32.840 making her dresses but in my head probably black dresses but then i was like what like what a
00:13:36.780 bizarre way to kill someone like just of all the ways you could kill someone like i don't know why
00:13:41.500 i like couldn't watch the rest of the movie i was like wow you can die in grain like i was just so
00:13:46.160 like and yeah the movie's like gonna drop a fact like that on you i feel like we there needs to be
00:13:50.000 like some foreshadowing and then you know what then my night's ruined because i'm wikipedia-ing
00:13:53.860 silos and i'm looking up statistics and i'm like how often do people die in silos like is this common
00:13:58.880 like how did he get in there like i'm literally like i didn't even watch the rest of the movie
00:14:02.920 i was too busy going silo death like i'm like wikipedia-ing it myself now you're making me do
00:14:08.160 homework that's not fair no absolutely to me and frankly like i everything that i've learned about
00:14:13.660 like grain silos has been against my will they're like surprisingly they're surprisingly like a lot
00:14:19.720 of movies like a quiet place uses them too yeah exactly and you know they fall in and they're
00:14:23.240 fine yeah i watched i said this is the dressmaker all over here i've seen this movie before
00:14:27.940 same drama please i loved those movies i love a quiet place like how so great how randomly
00:14:34.780 talented is john krasinski as a director he ate i was like oh my god go off queen yeah him and his
00:14:40.960 his lovely wife i mean literally i i quiet place 2 was one of my and a quiet place 2 that movie i still
00:14:46.840 like i'm sad because it came out at the worst possible time they like had to hold it yeah it was
00:14:54.660 already made and then like by the time it was one of the first movies that they like released
00:14:57.700 actually in theaters and like i just feel like it kind of just like disappeared it didn't do as
00:15:02.620 well as the first one yeah but it was really good it was so good both of them were so incredible i
00:15:07.780 remember the first one we went to see in theaters i've never wanted to shit myself more in a movie
00:15:12.060 my sister saw that movie pregnant oh stressful with the scene where she has to like yeah i was like
00:15:18.260 when she steps on the nail and uh and she hates horror but she loves john krasinski so she was like
00:15:23.820 i gotta i gotta do it you know speaking of horror my sister is like she loves film and she loves she's
00:15:30.480 a film major too but she was like let's go see hereditary and i didn't know because like this bitch
00:15:36.360 watches all the trailers she knows everything and she's like it's it's kind of scary i'm like kind
00:15:40.860 of scary you're like scary scary no no it's just only kind of i've never been more traumatized by a movie
00:15:45.440 great film such a great movie yeah that was your sister intentionally doing she was like i didn't
00:15:52.000 know it was gonna be that bad she's like i swear i didn't know it was gonna be that bad even my
00:15:55.300 boyfriend was scared and he never gets any scared by anything i'm a big scaredy cat but he literally
00:16:00.180 was like i honestly like feel like that movie changed me no literally i was like same like i am a huge
00:16:07.300 horror fan and hereditary is definitely like one of if not literally the most terrifying movie i've ever
00:16:14.840 seen in my life ever seen i could not believe it i was like i was in disbelief at how like
00:16:20.980 like almost like sick it made me because that's just how horrifying oh yeah yeah i had to go home
00:16:27.740 and like i'm in my mid-20s mind you i had to go home and like watch happy things oh yeah for hours i
00:16:33.760 was like watching disney movies i could not fall asleep i still sometimes see tony collette on my
00:16:38.800 ceiling and she killed it in that movie i'm i'm still angry that she wasn't she did not get an
00:16:46.380 oscar nomination for that role i mean she deserves she deserves so many oscar nominations truly but that
00:16:51.180 that monologue when she's like oh i said damn red but also horror gets snubbed a lot at the oscars
00:16:58.880 as far as i hear no it's like that's the thing is like i definitely like i love genre film like sci-fi
00:17:04.700 and horror and i mean even like fantasy and like i'm not the i'm not necessarily the kind of like
00:17:10.360 marvel comic book fan that's like they should be nominated for oscars yeah some comic book movies
00:17:15.060 are like legitimately contenders for some categories at least yeah but like yeah like horror in
00:17:21.240 particular god they just like snubbed they ignore it all the time they do and it's wild even that one
00:17:26.380 even me with very little knowledge of anything yeah i was like she deserves her flowers for that movie
00:17:31.820 oh my god like tony collette is a literal queen and truly god i mean plus she like port that role
00:17:38.600 must have been so traumatizing to take on i can't even imagine oh my gosh and i keep thinking i keep
00:17:44.540 forgetting his name but the guy from the naked brothers band the younger brother he's in hereditary
00:17:49.260 wait are you talking about the son the son what is his name alex alex wolf alex wolf yeah yeah
00:17:54.660 the naked brothers man hey do you did you i don't know the naked brothers man the way i said it is
00:18:01.500 nothing registered hey the nickelodeon girls are gonna eat that up the naked he was in a nickelodeon
00:18:07.220 show called the naked brothers band okay this is like his older brother nat wolf okay all right and
00:18:12.540 so alex wolf ended up going off and like actually both of them they're off acting and serious movies
00:18:18.120 and shit i think the older brother was in i forget oh no just kidding i was gonna say perks
00:18:24.000 of a welfare but that was logan lerman a different white kid anyways like they both have gone off to
00:18:29.820 be in movies and all that but alex wolf was obviously in hereditary and he was incredible
00:18:33.820 in that movie too yeah i mean he was like god he he was i didn't say old which was a movie that he
00:18:38.900 also did i heard it was just wild it was it wasn't nearly as spooky as i thought it was gonna be
00:18:45.720 i went with the intention of being spooked i wanted to be like you know obviously it's i'm
00:18:50.000 not shamalan right so i wanted it to be like a huge twist which it was like it was pretty creepy
00:18:55.220 yeah but i it didn't really give it to me like i thought it was going to yeah shamalan has uh had
00:19:01.400 had a few rough years he's like i'm a huge i was a big shamalan fan i went to film school like
00:19:08.360 when shamalan was like really big yeah so like i was like i'm a huge science fan i feel like science
00:19:13.900 never gets enough respect science is awesome but like yeah a lot of people cite the village i don't
00:19:19.500 think the village was bad i think listen if i'm gonna if i'm gonna talk shit about a movie it's
00:19:22.860 gonna be the happening the happening is i've never seen either of those movies so i'd take your word
00:19:26.680 for it i will i will tell you this right now yeah um mark walberg as a dramatic lead opposite
00:19:32.400 zoe deschanel and they have all the chemistry that you would imagine people would have i was literally
00:19:39.760 picturing and i was like it's it was it that gives me more father's father daughter than it
00:19:46.160 does lovers i feel like in like 2009 or 2010 it was like around that era and they were both at like
00:19:53.480 a peak in their career separately but together and like the god that's just wooden performances
00:19:58.680 in that movie i'm gonna i'm gonna spoil it happening for you oh my gosh if you're a big mark
00:20:03.360 walberg fan you shouldn't you should be ashamed yourself first of all second of all spoiler alert
00:20:08.200 but like you know jamal is known for his twists and like the twist of that movie is why are people
00:20:12.320 killing themselves what's going on everybody is like the whole gimmick is like people are committing
00:20:16.040 suicides in like really horrible ways and something is making them do it yeah um and early on they're
00:20:21.380 like i don't know maybe it's the plants and then later they're like like an hour later they're
00:20:26.020 like you were right i guess it was the plants guys what a twist i think it was the plants
00:20:31.420 like it was what the f**k i tried to outrun the wind yeah for old it was it the i don't know do
00:20:38.140 you want me to tell you the twist please tell me the twist the twist was essentially they were
00:20:42.180 they were basically recruiting people with chronic illnesses to go on this like this retreat which
00:20:49.720 you don't know in the beginning like you just think all these people are randomly at this retreat
00:20:53.340 but they all got invited and they're basically put on this like in this little like controlled
00:20:58.880 environment like ecosystem and they're testing how long they last with their chronic illness like
00:21:06.800 what they need to survive it's like almost like a drug testing thing so it's almost like a
00:21:10.880 an allegory for like big pharma is kind of what i thought i don't know maybe i'm a big idiot but like
00:21:17.160 that's what i thought that sounds very reasonable and so they're basically in a controlled
00:21:21.680 experiment but they don't know that so they just think the beach is aging them and and which
00:21:27.760 they're just getting old on their own yeah which in essence it's just it the materials and like the
00:21:33.300 rocks and shit is advancing their illnesses because they want to see how they turn out so they can
00:21:39.940 predict where it goes so they can create medicine to heal so it's kind of like if they have if they
00:21:45.080 are predisposed to like dementia the magic minerals and rocks that block them into the beach
00:21:51.900 advance their illness so they think they're aging but really which they are kind of but it's mostly
00:21:57.320 their illness is like rapidly aging okay all right and then they're like see we watched here like
00:22:02.420 this woman perished of cancer because her cancer was not that advanced and then in stage four in
00:22:08.900 like two days it goes to stage four and then she dies a terrible death okay all right and so i guess
00:22:13.520 and it kind of turns into like a lord of the flies situation where they start like killing each other
00:22:17.680 off because they're like afraid and terrified and yeah and then so like the two kids like there's only
00:22:23.180 one family and there's like two alex wolf is one of them and then his like sister the girl who in
00:22:28.500 the trailer like gets pregnant and has a baby and yeah like 12 or something yeah and it's like six
00:22:33.740 yeah and it's because the minerals are aging them but like mostly they're aging them because they want
00:22:38.240 to age their illnesses so then the two kids like get out they like swim into like a thing and then
00:22:43.320 they get out on the other side and then they figure out what's going on good for them yeah
00:22:47.300 happy ending congratulations alex wolf he got out
00:22:50.600 so i i like that movie i was like okay cool but i wasn't like blown away yeah which i was hoping to
00:22:58.800 be shaman has a new movie coming out that i'm really excited about it's about like this home invasion and
00:23:02.540 like like satanic like oh oh is that the um it's with the gay couple right yeah yes it looks good it
00:23:10.580 does actually look really good and i hope later i don't know speaking of uh hollywood giving uh men all
00:23:16.660 the chances in the world i i i do i do give shaman a lot of chances i don't know i just i think he's
00:23:22.920 so talented it's like everybody everybody gets in their own head sometimes yeah it's like they
00:23:27.560 can't all be winners you know yeah in order to get to your sleigh era you have to enter your flop
00:23:32.780 era so true you know what i mean so true big flop big sleigh sleigh's coming right back right around
00:23:37.440 the corner isn't that jonathan groff in that movie jonathan goss jonathan groff yeah totally yeah i forget
00:23:42.900 his name i think it is he plays christoph in frozen he does yeah look at me now i'm jay stoobes i wonder
00:23:49.540 i know god you're gonna she's gonna take my job okay so speaking of film that's what we're talking
00:23:55.740 about today women and men in film the disparities as we discuss yeah yeah and how they're perceived
00:24:01.720 especially on social media which is yeah as you said before your wandavision takes man did you kick
00:24:08.520 that beehive yeah the one so wandavision was really when my content like reached a lot of
00:24:15.780 people well i mean kind of i i talked about star wars a little bit before that that's right i remember
00:24:20.860 that i remember you saying in your wandavision so this is giving me star wars from like months ago
00:24:25.500 that was a quick left turn that i took from there i was like you know what actually i'm gonna just
00:24:29.280 i'm gonna step out of this lane immediately yeah i love star wars but it is just not worth talking
00:24:34.960 about it on the internet yeah um but yeah and like the marvel fandom has gotten that way a little
00:24:39.240 bit wandavision i feel like wanda maximoff as a character has really just like oh she's really just
00:24:45.940 scratched that itch for a lot of men yeah that they just can't seem to get and it just makes them
00:24:51.940 really she makes them really really upset yeah and she's not real so can you imagine a real woman
00:24:57.220 geez louise exactly yeah it's i don't know i speaking of star wars i like to compare her a lot to
00:25:03.420 like anakin skywalker yeah because like you know they're both good intentioned protagonists yeah
00:25:09.640 who have made some mistakes in anakin's case you know like child murder and genocide a little
00:25:16.100 different which people seem really willing to forgive um but apparently like even like just
00:25:21.620 wandavision like before multiverse of madness like wanda holding a town hostage was like
00:25:25.460 she's gotta pay yeah kill her literally no character has ever done anything worse than that in the
00:25:32.740 history of cinema not even in the marvel fandom no absolutely none of them i'm like it's like none
00:25:37.180 of you remember why tony stark was so hated around the world it's kind of crazy i have i've given some
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00:26:43.940 play responsibly yeah literally wandavision your takes on wandavision i agree with you
00:26:50.120 but that's why we were just talking about how like it's okay to like have critical thinking skills
00:26:55.620 oh yeah you can you can have two things be true at once like she could have made bad choices and
00:26:59.780 you know she's not a bad person and we can also just like i feel like people forget that like
00:27:04.360 supporting a fictional character in a story about superpowered people um is not necessarily advocating
00:27:11.940 for like a real world like dictator like i love loki i'm not like ready for somebody to come and
00:27:17.480 enslave humanity yeah yeah it's not really a hill you should die on that's what i think i exactly they're
00:27:24.500 not real like okay this has been i feel like my greatest enemy in taking on a film criticism on
00:27:30.560 the internet is the literalism that a lot of people engage with media with yeah because people will
00:27:35.860 really be just like super literal they love to conflate it's yeah like oh well like this character
00:27:42.520 did a bad thing so if you like that character you're basically like supporting genocide yeah and you're
00:27:49.140 like well see it's different because she's not real so it's all fiction babe it's not real like
00:27:55.200 we could all say anything and it's okay exactly so who cares and people just i don't know like i feel
00:27:59.980 like the whole point of storytelling i've talked about this so many times and people it's still people
00:28:03.820 still don't get it yeah it's like like when i love anti-heroes so like there are whether it's wanda
00:28:10.040 or loki or whoever you know other characters that are not in the marvel universe yeah um that's
00:28:15.140 walter white even yeah i feel like the point of storytelling is to get people to like relate to
00:28:22.640 a character and stories need to be interesting so a lot of times people tell like a fantastical or
00:28:28.480 extreme version of a character doing really bad things and then having a redemption arc yeah and
00:28:33.240 we've reached this point where people are like well that was literally shouldn't be redeemed for what
00:28:37.340 those things that that person did and it's like yeah no in the real world like that's why we put
00:28:42.280 serial killers in jail yeah and sometimes still they get a netflix series made about them
00:28:47.580 inexplicably but yeah t yeah t t t it's also it's the same sentiment to like um like a dexter yes
00:28:56.240 what i mean it's like okay dexter is like technically an anti-hero like yes he's murdering people but
00:29:01.180 they're bad people but i also think to myself like in the real world life is not that black and white
00:29:08.300 it's it's really not like it is to a sense like if you kill people you're bad yeah those those things
00:29:13.200 are obvious yeah but if we're talking in the context of like fiction and it's storytelling and
00:29:17.860 it's all tied together like you can watch it and be like okay this might be a little different i might
00:29:23.260 feel a little bit differently because of xyz yeah it's okay you can have your feelings you're entitled
00:29:28.560 to them exactly like i've never you know taken out somebody's eye and tried to invade new york city
00:29:36.940 but i have like wronged like friends or like my sisters before yeah and had needed to work through
00:29:44.600 like my relationship with people because i i was in the wrong in a relationship yeah and i feel like
00:29:50.680 those are the ways that you're meant to relate to these characters exactly i like loki because he
00:29:56.500 feels inferiority complex because of the way he was raised by frankly a really bad dad oh he sucks
00:30:02.300 yeah and like he and thor need to like work through their stuff as characters childhood trauma exactly
00:30:07.640 and come together and so it's like that's the level you relate to the character on not like
00:30:11.840 you know what killing mass actually i just i really i'm gonna see if i can open a time warp tunnel so i
00:30:18.720 can travel to another maybe there's a real thanos maybe i can just like work for him for a while
00:30:23.240 yeah that's literally me listen i mean you do snap and like half the universe is dusted that's why
00:30:29.040 i i was like i i think that all that's true it's like the the human aspect of them like that's the
00:30:35.920 point of storytelling yeah you relate to that part exactly it's not the part where they enslave
00:30:41.580 people it's the part or the part where they control the minds of other people yeah because you can't do
00:30:46.520 that in real life so i can't relate to it for those of you who didn't know you actually you actually
00:30:51.140 can't it's not possible it's not real believe me i've tried yeah i really have i mean i feel like
00:30:55.940 if anyone could you could i'm doing my best i'm gonna be but i'm instead of like loki i'm gonna be
00:31:01.800 more like in the spongebob squarepants movie where he like gets the helmets like the chum bucket
00:31:05.940 helmets and he just they just go and then they just control everybody and i'm i'm plankton on the
00:31:10.660 little controlling everyone i'm like seize him that's literally me no i mean yeah i can see that and i
00:31:16.760 support that and you know i don't support murder but i do support the empowerment of women there
00:31:22.080 yeah you know what if you don't you hate women and just say that okay so we're gonna get into
00:31:27.380 these videos these videos obviously if you've never seen before we bring them here they apply
00:31:31.480 to our topic we pick them apart laugh share all the giggles all the fun stuff so this first video
00:31:37.360 is basically a tiktok user posted a video with the caption reasons why people dislike brie larson part
00:31:43.240 one slippery slope my friend not a strong start and it says and it's clips from an interview she
00:31:50.120 did promoting a marvel movie with chris hemsworth and don cheadle in the clip she's very confident
00:31:54.480 and talking sarcastically about the film with her co-stars and the person who posted the video said this
00:31:59.180 was irritating and they just don't like her as captain marvel yeah yeah shocker i cannot believe
00:32:07.040 that someone like a man for example hates a woman superhero i know i that's a very strange and
00:32:15.080 foreign concept it's so unique i've never seen that before in my life it's so new to try to wrap my head
00:32:20.120 around that for a second how could you get the right headspace i can't believe that no i mean poor
00:32:25.240 literally i mean like i was gonna say poor brie larson like she's doing fine yeah she's absolutely
00:32:29.500 killing it but like yeah the way that people talk about brie larson is absolutely unhinged like it's
00:32:36.880 it's weird it's it's actually insane yeah like actually like like someone should be checking on
00:32:43.560 these people like i just truly you know it's truly i have seen so many videos attacking brie larson and
00:32:51.600 like there are probably literally thousands of like three hour like body language experts on youtube that
00:32:57.020 like this is how you can tell that she's actually the antichrist this is how you can tell that she's
00:33:03.980 actually annoying and it's like at that point it's opinion right yeah you find her irritating that's on
00:33:10.480 you i mean like i think that like that's fine you find people irritating just admit that yeah because
00:33:15.920 the the thing is if they admit that then it's just like being a hater at your very core or being a
00:33:22.480 misogynist and they don't want to confront that so they try to like find shit to like validate
00:33:26.880 their unnecessary hatred like yeah it's just like you hate seeing women succeed you hate seeing
00:33:32.120 female superheroes be more powerful than the male ones whatever that means to you and then for some
00:33:38.300 reason it stirs something up inside you and then you have to be like well look at how she sits in
00:33:41.500 this chair what the fuck you're insane i wish that more people would just embrace uh the doctrine of
00:33:48.480 being a hater because like if you want to be a hater like be a hater like that's fine but don't
00:33:53.400 like attach some like faux like pseudoscience morality to it like well this is actually why
00:34:00.600 this person is justifiably hateable it's like just say that you're like you know a little bitter about
00:34:04.960 whatever and like you don't like them like sorry my life though oh my god i'm like wouldn't it just be
00:34:10.160 easier to say hate women like i just feel like the short it's like a shortcut like i don't need to hear
00:34:15.040 the like well this is like honestly in my opinion in your opinion yeah that doesn't make it fact
00:34:20.720 that's the sad part is like you could say anything and it doesn't mean it's true well and brie larson
00:34:25.300 i mean like the other thing is like it's just so obvious it's so on the nose because brie larson was
00:34:31.140 already getting attention for the costume for captain marvel because like i'm gonna nerd out here for a
00:34:37.120 second but captain marvel is a character in the comics who like originally started out as a character
00:34:41.220 called miss marvel yeah and she wore like a really cute little black bodysuit with no legs yeah and a
00:34:47.120 sash and she looked like you know a superhero barbie she looks great you know but it's a later iteration
00:34:52.860 of her that has her as captain marvel and she's also not the first character to have that name but
00:34:57.960 it's fine yeah um so like yeah choosing to take brie larson and put her in like a full coverage like
00:35:05.600 jumpsuit essentially people were already mad and like well she doesn't look like the character
00:35:10.080 how can i jerk off to her if i cannot see the titties like i feel like it's a struggle you
00:35:16.400 know how how is my penis supposed to enjoy looking at a full coverage lady and that's really what
00:35:23.180 movies are for you know at the end of the day i am here as you can see for the male gaze
00:35:28.860 you and me both yeah that's what i'm saying that's what i'm saying it and it's also like
00:35:36.980 it's such a like when she got her the haircut too oh yeah the way that they were like why would you
00:35:43.600 well and the the cherry on top was when she i can't even remember what award ceremony it was but she
00:35:49.040 received some award and she went up there and she used her platform to give her speech which you know
00:35:54.720 it's an award she it was maybe like five minutes of talking time that she had total and she got up
00:35:59.920 there and talked about the disparity in film critics and how women are vastly underrepresented
00:36:05.860 yeah and she specifically mentioned a wrinkle in time which was a big movie that oprah made which they
00:36:10.440 changed the lead to be a young black girl yeah and it was like a wrinkle in time is such an iconic
00:36:14.760 story and she was particularly calling out the fact that most of the critics that reviewed that film
00:36:20.900 were white men and the movie just isn't meant to appeal to them in the first place so her point was
00:36:27.340 justifiably if we just open a few doors and allow for more diverse critics other more women more women
00:36:34.640 of color in particular yeah maybe the film would have been received differently and the way a film is
00:36:39.400 critically received can have huge impacts on the whether we get more of that type of film and you
00:36:44.180 know so it's like it has huge ripple effects those roles exactly yeah it has huge ripple effects in the
00:36:49.600 industry and that was her point and people just said oh well brie larson hates white guys and
00:36:55.040 from then on everyone no one's more impressed if i'm being honest than a white dude let me tell you
00:37:01.180 let's spend a good 20 minutes talking about how hard it is to be a white man it is so hard in this
00:37:05.320 world i'll tell you listen as a strong white man myself currently and i mean yeah and you i'm so glad
00:37:12.400 to have your representation here because white men are so underrepresented so i'm saying in film
00:37:17.680 and music like and that's and that's that's always what it is it is and that's why i i brought that up
00:37:24.920 once um when i was talking about the criticism of my content which is obviously on a much smaller scale
00:37:31.240 but when the criticism of my content is always like she's too much too mean too aggressive that
00:37:38.320 lends towards a larger issue right and i always say this argument primarily comes through the lens of a
00:37:43.760 white man like always always when i say always it's always because it's rooted in white supremacy
00:37:49.000 the like expectation that you are entitled to a mature and educational response no matter how
00:37:55.360 vitriolic you are to others oh yeah no matter how you harm or hurt the people around you you're always
00:38:00.460 entitled to understanding and patience that's white supremacy absolutely and i and i and i talked about
00:38:06.700 that and i was like it of course like neanderthals who watch it are like what do you guys have to bring up
00:38:12.200 race because it always affects everything like absolutely i was like it plays a role in every
00:38:17.720 single aspect of life outside of the internet believe it or not like we all live in our own
00:38:23.580 bodies and skin outside of the internet so when white men want to tell me how to properly react
00:38:31.360 to bigotry it's not valid to me because you don't know what it feels like to be me absolutely
00:38:37.040 oh it's tone policing and that's yeah it's always tone policing but that's the point like you don't
00:38:41.420 get how it feels so it's not really up to you how i react to it and they're like well i would never
00:38:46.140 i just like me personally i would never then don't yep that's why i said then don't like you don't have
00:38:50.960 to make fun of what people look like i'm going to do whatever you want do whatever you want babe
00:38:56.220 like this is a free country like you always like to tell other people no i mean when you cite the
00:39:00.260 constitution you like to talk about free speech absolutely feel free no i mean in in like the film
00:39:04.720 criticism side of things it happens all the time too where like i see men offering these critiques
00:39:09.380 and i'm like listen i it's of course you're allowed to have your opinions of course your opinions are
00:39:13.840 valid like just like anybody's are yeah but i'm just saying why do you think you should be putting
00:39:19.380 yourself on the internet leading a conversation about the significance of this female character
00:39:23.500 when it's like can you even speak to that experience should you be trying to exactly and it's and it's okay
00:39:30.160 to admit like well this isn't an experience that i personally have had but this is what i liked about
00:39:35.720 the movie like it's okay to remove yourself or at least acknowledge that you yourself can't speak to
00:39:40.480 the experience absolutely right like why would you want to review it if like if you personally feel like
00:39:46.440 you aren't represented in the film then don't review it like yeah i brought it up on uh on another
00:39:51.700 episode too where uh the turning red oh yeah oh my god review written by an older white man like yes
00:39:58.300 what would you know about being a young asian girl yeah what would you know about that nothing
00:40:02.740 yeah going through puberty with like a first generation child like what would you know about
00:40:07.120 that nothing exactly so like of course they're like i just feel like i didn't i it didn't relate
00:40:12.220 to me at all oh yeah well i also just feel like we're so generous like with this we're so generous
00:40:19.580 with the idea that like oh well you know like i even have gotten to this point where i feel like
00:40:23.840 saying it's not for me is like well i mean no shit like i mean like but like women and minorities
00:40:31.280 have been relating to characters that don't represent them for literally like since the dawn
00:40:35.540 of time and it's like i just i don't i feel like you're really just not even trying and it just it's
00:40:41.860 so apparent that like there there are people that are willing to try there are but there are so many
00:40:47.400 people out there that even like mostly most of the time they won't give the time a day or worse
00:40:52.620 there are people that you know run whole youtube channels where they've made it their life's goal
00:40:57.280 to make as many three hour and a long youtube analysis videos about movies that came out seven
00:41:04.660 years ago just to call the protagonist to mary sue yeah it's like babe like maybe you should get a hobby
00:41:11.700 i don't like a job girlfriend a bitch i don't know anything at all but i'm just i'm honestly just
00:41:18.880 getting so tired of hearing it even because like i i had this criticism about the reception to the
00:41:23.440 miss marvel show and we're seeing it again with she hulk where so many men like had gotten to the
00:41:29.080 point where they said okay well i understand that the show's not for me and i don't like it and it's
00:41:31.860 like you you literally just made a video about how peter parker is so relatable to you a literal
00:41:39.180 17 year old genius with superpowers who gets hella ass and that's really relatable to you and i know
00:41:48.140 you can't relate to that part but kamala khan is literally a teenage nerd who is ostracized who's
00:41:54.560 actually a character who's ostracized by her classmates and because she's a young muslim girl
00:41:58.640 yeah i would think that that would be a lot more relatable to a lot of that people's experience
00:42:02.520 growing up yeah that's such a good point like you could very easily pull experiences from characters
00:42:08.400 that don't look like you or maybe don't walk in the same exact experience as you you could pull
00:42:13.020 something from it like when i watched the movie soul for example yeah that movie tore me up bitch
00:42:20.760 and i'm not a jazz player i'm not a teacher i'm not a music i'm not musically inclined at all bitch like
00:42:25.460 same i'm not an older black man like i don't know what it feels like to be him at all but i do know
00:42:31.500 what it feels like to feel stuck to feel exactly unfulfilled like i pulled from that movie like you
00:42:37.460 wouldn't believe that movie like i talked about that to my therapist that movie me up like in a
00:42:43.400 good way it was such a beautiful movie absolutely but it spoke to me in a different way because
00:42:47.840 you can still pull an experience from someone that maybe doesn't look like you on film that's okay
00:42:53.720 you can do that it's okay and again like we've been doing it like minorities always you know like
00:42:58.480 absolutely it's one of those things that's like i just i don't know i feel like it's it's so
00:43:04.700 indicative too of like i feel like so so much of this conversation i feel like revolves around
00:43:09.280 implicit bias and that's the thing that like i feel like it's really important because i feel
00:43:12.780 like a lot of like men feel attacked when we have conversations like this yeah and it's like well i'm
00:43:16.620 not i don't hate women it's like i'm not i'm not even saying that you do i'm saying that we live
00:43:22.060 in a patriarchal inherently misogynistic society that also it has like many different levels and layers
00:43:29.000 of systemic racism and intersectionality is something that you can never dismiss but the
00:43:33.280 point is like you just because you can't relate to those kinds of things just because you don't
00:43:38.820 understand the nuances of it doesn't mean that you can't like be tacitly supporting it yeah our
00:43:44.660 implicit biases always and it's like something like as a white person i am consciously aware of all the
00:43:49.480 time it's like how am i could i be doing better like is this something that i need to work on yeah
00:43:54.240 and it's the same for misogyny that's being a good person honestly well being an adult is what
00:43:58.600 it is like grow up is what i want to tell you like literally grow up bro like yeah like not
00:44:03.280 everything first of all not everything in the world is made for you like get that out of your brain
00:44:06.960 immediately uh especially now but even then like if it doesn't feel like it's for you is that a bad
00:44:12.840 thing yeah like does it inherently make it bad just because it's not targeted towards your demographic
00:44:17.320 specifically and if so why do you feel that way and also after that go watch something else like
00:44:25.100 you're telling me that you can't find one other film on this planet that's representative of you and
00:44:30.780 whatever way you deem fit yeah like you think about someone like dr strange and how many men are like
00:44:35.720 that's me i'm dr strange you're like a genius heart surgeon or a brain surgeon whatever he is
00:44:41.780 that's that smashed his own hands and then had to learn how to lie to your mom like you're telling
00:44:47.900 me that's you like you know what i mean like yeah he's not real and you found you found something to
00:44:53.500 relate to him yeah but then you see she hulk and you're like nah well and it's it's too woke
00:44:58.880 oh god the woke yeah no yeah the woke mob i mean it's it's so clear too i mean like again i speak
00:45:06.360 about implicit bias a lot but like literally just the way that our society has historically demonized
00:45:12.820 femininity in itself yeah so like the idea that like she hulk is heavily based on the romance is a
00:45:19.140 big element of the show her looking for you know a boyfriend and it's you know clothes anything that
00:45:25.200 has been like societally determined to be like a feminine trait yeah is undesirable and i feel like
00:45:32.200 like when i grew up internalized misogyny was like man it was it was just the bread and butter
00:45:36.840 oh my god yeah girl we all been a pick me yeah trust me i talk about that all the time back in
00:45:40.860 the day the good thing is we came out the other side we did some of our brothers are lost in there
00:45:45.700 they are stuck like quicksand i can't save you and we're working through it but like as a society i feel
00:45:50.920 like we need to actively work to stop actively demonizing things that are feminine as being just
00:45:57.080 like undesirable and i feel like that's a big issue with people inherently being like well it's not for me
00:46:01.380 because they're afraid to be like oh people are gonna think that i like girly things and it's like
00:46:05.100 that would not be the worst thing in the world she's a green monster it's okay yeah it's like
00:46:09.880 things are fun yeah and she's a lawyer yeah yeah like that's is that not mass yeah gendering things
00:46:17.500 in general is stupid that's why i'm like absolutely it's like that whole argument on tiktok when they're
00:46:22.080 like oh masculine energy versus feminine energy is not gendered okay your energy is ass is what it is
00:46:28.960 what gender is that what gender is you're a terrible person that's the gender that you
00:46:32.800 like the gender that your energy carries in my opinion but no i mean it's so it's it's so true
00:46:38.380 and it's really just like the the reason why things are gendered are just because the patriarchal
00:46:42.520 society society has decided that some things have to be in column a and some things have to be in
00:46:46.480 column b well and then on the same note like obviously the femininity like especially if it's like
00:46:52.540 a very like strict toxic masculinity man he's gonna avoid liking like a girl oh yeah god forbid
00:47:00.960 could never but then at the same time you have like we said captain marvel and they switch up her
00:47:05.080 costume and they're like what the where does it end with the feminism this is just the worst thing
00:47:10.980 yeah it's ever happened to anyone it's like pick a side like pick one you gotta pick one or the other
00:47:15.080 row you like you can't have both you know what i mean so well i mean it's just i don't know it's
00:47:19.180 hilarious to me to think about the way that the the way that it just it shouldn't matter at all and
00:47:25.500 their arguments their arguments actively contradict each other because they want to talk about they
00:47:30.840 don't want to say well i just want to see her boobs but they do we all know that's what the t is
00:47:36.500 babe so some of the comments on this video like this one is back to obviously brie larson but oh yeah
00:47:41.820 it says she plays her overconfidence with hatred underneath mainly she's fake and what many are calling
00:47:46.900 confidence is more like arrogance listen to me you got all of that from her sitting next to
00:47:53.720 like chris hemsworth you know what i'm saying like you got all the way that they analyze and just make
00:48:00.240 things up they do that to me all the time they're like this is this isn't confidence this is arrogance
00:48:04.760 wrong confidence comes with from within arrogance comes at the expense of others so arrogance is when
00:48:12.480 you feel good about yourself because you're actively putting other people down or and it makes
00:48:16.780 you feel good but confidence comes from within that's on me so like i draw my confidence from
00:48:22.880 myself and that's what she does no like you're literally just like captain marvel if you really
00:48:29.020 think about it yeah turns out i've had that exact conversation people say that she's the most arrogant
00:48:33.640 character i'm completely ignoring characters like tony who literally describe themselves as a
00:48:39.240 billionaire billionaire playboy philanthropist genius whatever like like the epitome of arrogance
00:48:44.660 like and she literally has worked her way up to her position like to earn everything that she has not
00:48:51.140 just like in the movie itself like she is an air force pilot that she's worked really hard to get
00:48:55.700 where she's at and then when we're introduced to her later after she's like gotten the powers she's
00:48:59.620 worked her way up with the creed too like yeah people say that it's it's arrogance but it's being
00:49:04.880 self-assured because she's worked for everything that she has well also it's comic book accurate
00:49:09.300 correct exactly yes so like what's the problem is what i always think like they're like no
00:49:14.840 i don't know i guess i just hate women i mean that's yeah it's like and i mean so exhausting like
00:49:21.100 i saw um a tiktoker his name's like tony's stavrich or something i forget his last name i'm so sorry if i
00:49:27.900 butchered it but he like was making a funny joke about the little mermaid obviously right that whole
00:49:32.920 saga oh my god the way people were losing their minds over a fictional fish but he was like he's
00:49:38.720 like i don't know i just feel like fish wouldn't be wouldn't be you know that skin tone like blah blah
00:49:42.680 he's like talking to himself and he's like just out of curiosity do you like black people and he's
00:49:47.600 like not particularly no but i don't know what that has to do with this conversation do you see
00:49:51.540 that's what it is and you're like that's what you're saying no absolutely like just say it i feel
00:49:56.960 like it's easier if you just admit that you're a bigot i know literally that would be a lot easier i feel
00:50:01.220 like instead of save us a lot of time yeah instead of trying to craft a scientific argument about why
00:50:07.000 a mythical creature can't possibly have black skin like yeah just just say it you know yeah that's
00:50:12.400 okay not with me but i'm sure you can find a community to support you and your racist endeavors
00:50:18.260 you know what i mean this next comment says i think marvel could have gone without a captain marvel
00:50:24.720 it was weird having someone so powerful just show up i didn't like it what oh my god what a like
00:50:31.320 astute observation i didn't like it i mean i love how literally in phase one they drop a literal god
00:50:38.060 onto the earth and they're like he's just yeah he's too powerful he's just a god he can just do
00:50:43.300 whatever oh he doesn't have his powers got him back by the end of the movie and then captain marvel
00:50:47.320 comes in and they're like this is this is insanity too powerful what's going what's going on here
00:50:51.980 too powerful and woman i don't like it those two things don't go that combination they would
00:50:56.780 never be fine if they were different the fictional universe would never stanley would never absolutely
00:51:03.220 not he would never support that ever in a million years i think that's i don't like it you know what
00:51:09.460 that's funny just right i don't like it that's funny all right i mean i would respect i honestly
00:51:16.380 have way more respect for people who just come out and say it because i'm like okay same i'd be
00:51:21.500 like well i just like honestly like i've i've gotten comments on my videos where they're like
00:51:26.680 um i really hate you but this was funny okay like in in a way i'm like fair i guess i mean you know
00:51:35.520 i mean unpack it on your own but like gee thanks sometimes i write i appreciate the honesty
00:51:40.260 you know what i mean like i've noticed this about your content specifically is that people
00:51:45.080 people really just like it's like a goal for a lot of them to just like try to insult you in the
00:51:50.780 comments and especially with like the the feigned like politeness in front like i'm not a racist but
00:51:58.580 you're really stop right there i've heard enough i don't need to hear the end of that sentence i really
00:52:05.980 don't yeah no yeah they tell me that all the time and then like when i tell them like that doesn't
00:52:12.000 really mean anything to me considering your face looks like this shit they scrape off the bottom of
00:52:16.800 a ship it doesn't really mean much to me like you know what i mean and then they're like too far
00:52:20.640 too far fat bitch okay you know what i mean like okay like see i thought you i thought we were doing
00:52:27.460 like a little back and forth yeah i always think it's like double dutch you were you were swinging i i was
00:52:32.560 swinging you were jumping see i feel like yeah you're always just so many steps ahead i feel like
00:52:37.320 even when like i'm not i mean there's been some i've seen some criticism of late that was like
00:52:43.020 attempting to be more nuanced yeah attempting being the operative word there um and i was really i don't
00:52:49.620 know i was really i'm so used to seeing people come at you in ways that are just so outright asinine
00:52:56.100 and immature yeah that i was just like i mean and there was so much support and i was like this is just
00:53:00.600 but the thing that really got me was when the conversation about like dismissing the racial
00:53:06.260 element because of because like my my grandfather is mesoamerican native yeah i it's something that
00:53:13.620 like i'm working through on my own because i feel like i'm not like allowed to be in those spaces yeah
00:53:17.960 because for me the biggest issue is i don't ever want to feel like i'm speaking for a community that
00:53:23.920 i clearly don't represent but i want to i mean there's a difference between like race and ethnicity
00:53:29.140 yeah and i want to like embrace my heritage without feeling like you're overstepping exactly
00:53:34.800 yeah and i just feel that i think that's great i mean it's one like i i've you know talked to a lot
00:53:40.060 of other creators that are like oh no like like you're a latina and like my husband is like from
00:53:43.440 el salvador so it's like i could never it's very clear that like i'm a white person and he's like
00:53:48.740 a different ethnicity different race than i am yeah but i you know i want to embrace my latina
00:53:55.380 yeah and that's fair you know i think that's fair i think it's it's all about balance i think because
00:54:01.740 as long as you understand that you're not speaking on behalf of people that have a different like
00:54:07.360 life experience from you because phenotypically they look different than you yeah well and weaponizing
00:54:12.380 it yeah exactly i would never that's the thing that i was like yeah i would never want to weaponize
00:54:17.500 that against someone when i clearly have a lived experience as a white person yeah and it's it's
00:54:22.820 again that's another reason why i always say like race is a huge factor it's a huge factor
00:54:28.320 especially when we're talking about bigotry as a whole yeah it's very important that we keep it in
00:54:33.900 the conversation because i unfortunately don't have the privilege of removing it because that's not how
00:54:39.260 i'm treated absolutely so like if i could remove it then i would but i can't you can and that's good
00:54:46.360 congratulations right so that's why i'm like i don't have that luxury but that's also the reason why
00:54:52.620 i think it's important that we have the conversation like that's why whenever i have
00:54:56.420 videos it's very rare where i'm like speaking just like logically and i'm not like making jokes and
00:55:03.620 shit um a lot of times people are like oh you're actually like kind of smart yeah i know bitch i
00:55:09.640 know i'm smart i don't need to prove it to you to know i'm smart but that's why i always say my content
00:55:14.680 speaks to the people that understand yeah what i'm doing what i'm trying to achieve and why i do it the
00:55:19.240 way i do it exactly there's a reason why i do it the way i do it they give me zero credit because
00:55:24.300 they always think i'm an idiot the men who feel the need or the desire to criticize me yeah um it's
00:55:30.740 always like it's just such a short-lived like uh high that they get off trying to like because it
00:55:36.660 used to just be you're a big fatty fat fat fatty fatty fatty which i prefer if i'm being honest
00:55:41.040 uh to like the well this is why listen a bias aside this is why i think stop your your biases
00:55:49.400 like i always say it like you said implicit bias is in everything it's in everything and it's and
00:55:53.780 it's not just race like it's it's when it comes to body type right when it comes to phobia when it
00:56:00.420 comes to misogyny as a whole like when it comes to homophobia like all of that is implicit biases
00:56:05.380 that you need to unpack and diagnose on your own or in therapy and i highly encourage yeah okay so
00:56:12.080 we'll move on to this next video uh in this tiktok of an interview clip olivia wilde is being
00:56:16.680 interviewed on the kelly clarkson show they're talking about how the current media narrative is pushing
00:56:21.360 a lot of hate onto olivia around directing don't worry darling dating harry styles etc she says she
00:56:27.180 just puts it all into perspective considering other people are dealing with actual health crises
00:56:31.100 right now and she understands that she doesn't have a lot of control over the narrative uh and
00:56:37.340 then some of these comments let's see it says her insincerity drips from her mouth and her movie was
00:56:42.880 a disaster god damn that's like that's a heater bro and this this next one let me just get this
00:56:49.060 next one off real quick oh yeah she says she makes her life public don't act like the victim when you
00:56:53.300 make it obvious that you want attention in your personal life so to promote your job
00:56:58.440 that i feel very conflicted about the whole thing mostly because i know i i again critical thinking
00:57:08.380 we can understand that two things can be true at once that's the key there could have for sure have
00:57:12.980 been drama that we first of all no one knows except the people that were directly involved i always
00:57:17.900 think that but then you also think too that like misogyny does play a huge role especially in film
00:57:23.600 especially for female directors so like i'm sure that there's a there's a tinge of that as well
00:57:29.200 in like this kind of like witch hunt you know what i mean yes i can understand both sides you know what
00:57:35.520 i mean yeah i think that there needs to be space to acknowledge that a person like olivia wilde can be
00:57:41.720 a flawed um person and maybe not maybe not the best advocate for feminism in the world yeah and also
00:57:50.720 understanding that like the systems that are set up in the world and hollywood are actively working
00:57:58.120 against her and i i think that there would be nowhere near the level of attention on this film
00:58:03.420 if she was a man i think that that's accurate yeah at least on the drama is what i'm the drama yeah
00:58:08.000 yeah yeah yeah but at the same time i think it's like it's like the conversation like of
00:58:12.600 intersectionality like yeah i think that there are a lot of nuanced critiques about the film
00:58:16.640 especially as it pertains to representing specifically white women and not having an
00:58:22.020 intersectional approach i think that there are a lot of criticisms you could have about
00:58:25.540 behind the scenes and the etiquette of a director and the role of a director and needing to take that
00:58:30.560 seriously i think the the issue comes in when it's just so clear i mean like this has been the biggest
00:58:35.860 film set drama in years like i mean at least i feel like maybe a decade yeah and then you look at other
00:58:42.680 working directors like before the before you saw like only one trailer maybe at the time and then
00:58:48.920 you knew more about behind the scenes than you did about the actual film exactly and it's because it's
00:58:53.340 it's two women that have been pitted against each other which is a narrative that society loves yeah and
00:58:59.100 then you have actual working directors with actual like sometimes confirmed crimes or like like
00:59:06.860 allegations like um from like on the record from crew members and and cast and this is all rumor that
00:59:16.020 has just turned into this like why wild the stories run wild yeah it has so yeah i mean i think that i
00:59:23.040 think that there's a lot of space to be be critical of the way that people women can fail as individuals
00:59:30.760 yeah while also understanding that like it's it's a it's a the industry sucks yeah and i think i think
00:59:38.200 a lot of times too like there's a bit of a straw man argument when it comes to like the critique of her
00:59:44.080 and and the drama yeah um bringing up things that have no real relevance to it or are like they kind
00:59:50.560 of pale it in comparison to like the trauma and what could potentially be happening like i just always
00:59:56.220 think that's why people's business i don't get involved that's what i always that's what i always
01:00:00.640 be thinking i'm like well you know what is what it is i do think i know like what i would do in that
01:00:06.200 situation but she ain't me so that's why i'm like there you go i mean and you know what you gotta do
01:00:10.280 when white people like have some good drama they do i'll eat it up listen i'll watch all the tiktoks i'm
01:00:16.060 just like i i have no opinions like whatsoever i'm like you listen you guys do what you gotta do i will
01:00:21.920 see the movie when it comes out on hbo when it comes straight to dvd i will be tuning in but i
01:00:28.740 will say i do love florence pugh i mean stan her forever yeah she's incredible she's so great and
01:00:34.140 then i i just think too that um one time i saw someone call this kind of like drama uh trauma porn
01:00:40.180 or drama porn and it's like it's like people are like literally foaming at the mouth to watch it
01:00:45.040 or to like dig into like the drama of it all and i get it listen at the end of the day i'm a
01:00:50.260 you know what i mean i'm in other people's like i'm like being nosy and that's okay we can all
01:00:56.620 watch from the outside but i think like i think it takes a turn when you really start commenting on
01:01:02.620 people's like character like the way that some people were trying to rip up florence for a while
01:01:07.340 like yeah commenting on who she was as a person how she acts as an actress like you don't know
01:01:12.820 any of that yeah you don't know because you don't know her and that's kind of where i think it gets
01:01:17.540 weird i'm like you guys are commenting on things you don't even know you know what i mean so oh
01:01:21.520 absolutely i mean even like honestly same for olivia it's weird because a lot of the early
01:01:25.400 criticism seem to be people who are criticizing specifically because she was in a relationship
01:01:30.640 with harry styles and i am too old to have been like a one direction fan but i understand that the
01:01:36.540 harry fans are very passionate protective yeah maybe passion is a good word yeah and so it's just
01:01:41.920 interesting to see the kinds of ways that like we collectively attack women when we feel justified
01:01:47.880 in yeah like it's like oh well she's not perfect so we can we can just we can go all in rip up yeah
01:01:53.780 and so it's i yeah i feel like there's a slippery slope there but at the same time again like i do
01:01:57.620 think it's important to always be aware that like there are valid criticisms and absolutely we should
01:02:02.960 absolutely be able to talk about them yeah it's like it's it's one of those things where you again you
01:02:07.740 have to be able to have critical thinking exactly be able to understand nuance and context and be
01:02:13.120 like listen this is none of my business is it fun to digest and and sip the tea yes but am i gonna
01:02:20.060 like dig into like absolutely viscerally hitting someone i don't even know no i'm too busy honestly
01:02:26.840 yeah honestly i have my own mental illnesses i have to take care of yeah you know i'm saying like i can't
01:02:31.080 fit another one in there you know i mean i don't have i don't have the space but no i really don't
01:02:35.260 there's too much i mean yeah i mean there's like honestly with this film in particular i just found
01:02:39.780 it so interesting because there's just so many layers like there are there are so many layers
01:02:43.500 of behind the scenes and within the film like i feel like this one also is like a total example
01:02:48.600 of romanticizing like female pain and i think that that was like honestly olivia's biggest mistake
01:02:55.260 was marketing the film as this big like feminist masterpiece because it's like it's like i don't think
01:03:01.180 it's a bad film i actually really enjoyed it but like it's definitely not that yeah it's it feels
01:03:06.600 like it's playing on the trauma of being a woman yeah which is like i mean that's valid there are
01:03:12.220 stories about that but like yeah it's it's not like the torch holder she made it seem yeah it's gonna
01:03:19.120 be and and that's again a valid criticism and that's pertaining to the film itself so i haven't seen
01:03:25.240 the film but jay stoops has yes i have she can confidently say that i did i did enjoy it i think
01:03:30.760 i think that's the other thing is too is like would we be would we even be having these conversations
01:03:35.580 about like does it represent all women is it just a white feminist perspective if it was a story about
01:03:41.480 men because like while those criticisms are super important and valid i just think it's interesting
01:03:46.720 that we never seem to have them when it's stories about men you can have you know top gun and
01:03:53.280 whatever any kind of male-centric movie come out and it's not like the question isn't well how well
01:03:59.320 or accurately does this film represent you know different uh people from different groups yeah
01:04:05.100 from that you know different races or yeah like queer men yeah it's it's never it's never the the
01:04:11.440 topic of conversation yeah it's always you know different standards exactly and i think too i think it is
01:04:17.880 fair at the same time to like say like it is white feminism oh it is for sure yeah and
01:04:23.120 that's and that's totally fair to say that and then and jay stoops is right too in the sense that
01:04:27.400 men are never really held to the same kind of standard which is also fair that's why i said yeah
01:04:31.880 context the ability to critically think yes please adopt it that's like people just need to understand
01:04:38.800 that like like you said earlier multiple things can be true at once yeah and it's okay for us to
01:04:44.620 acknowledge faults and flaws in individuals or in individual pieces of media while also understanding
01:04:50.880 that like the overarching system is definitely rigged yeah exactly exactly and that's why
01:04:58.120 being able to operate within the system and then also acknowledge if you have privilege still within
01:05:05.040 the system is also very important it's like it's when you act as if you're just as oppressed as like
01:05:12.100 women of color or black women for example or trans women that's when it crosses a line because then
01:05:17.120 you're like yeah see we're all on the same you know scale of oppression no we aren't but that's
01:05:23.480 okay like you can acknowledge that like although we are all oppressed as women you still have a leg
01:05:30.200 up over other women which is important absolutely knowledge and that's why it's important to platform
01:05:34.760 other women that don't look like you or not white women like it's important to like give them a seat at
01:05:40.860 the table too because technically speaking they can't really get in the door without you sometimes no
01:05:44.620 absolutely the unfortunate part for us but like i think overall i would say there's still a lot of
01:05:52.300 work to be done yes as there are in many industries yeah when it comes to women or femme presenting people
01:05:58.620 in general or just people who don't identify as women at all it's so important to like really shake
01:06:04.740 the table man like i'm tired of seeing the same things over and over again i think that's why with uh
01:06:09.820 johnny sibley we talked about how like he was saying we had talked about a video where they were
01:06:15.540 criticizing a league of their own um the new series oh yeah and they were being obviously very homophobic
01:06:21.780 about it like the video that we were uh breaking down but when we were talking about it we were we
01:06:27.100 were basically saying that like sometimes like things aren't for you like yep and that's okay but you
01:06:33.360 already have a version of it so go watch that one exactly like if you feel so inclined to be like
01:06:37.420 like you feel targeted because you didn't get to enjoy it as much as you would have liked it's okay
01:06:43.200 watch something else yeah or or understand that like when things like that come out and they do well
01:06:48.580 it opens the door for other people to be able to make more content like that to be more representative
01:06:54.180 of people there's nothing wrong with giving everyone a chance to see themselves exactly on tv everyone
01:07:00.700 deserves to see themselves represented and you know on the topic of women in film in general it's like
01:07:05.960 i like to advocate for women's representation in general but the truth of it is is that white women
01:07:12.040 and specifically like white cis straight presenting women have been the focus the central focus on like
01:07:19.380 women's representation yeah for so long absolutely and it's one of those things where like you you have
01:07:24.220 to understand that like centering white women is just it's been the norm it's something that we have
01:07:30.920 to actively work to fix it's not yeah you know yeah and that's and it's okay to acknowledge that
01:07:36.920 yeah it doesn't mean i always say to like when you acknowledge your privilege that's not that does not
01:07:43.020 mean that you've never struggled in your life like that is it's not the absence of struggle it's just
01:07:47.420 the acknowledgement that you don't have invisible barriers that make it even harder for you than it
01:07:52.640 already is like if you're a cis straight white woman then you yeah you have struggles but they're
01:07:58.800 not the same as others and that's okay it's okay to admit it that's right yeah we cannot you know
01:08:04.420 everybody could admit everybody could do with admitting you know that we've all we i feel i don't
01:08:11.680 know why like white privilege is such a hard thing for so many people to accept yeah it's okay but like
01:08:16.460 it's just it doesn't mean you didn't ever struggle with anything it just it just means you you didn't have
01:08:22.620 all of the setbacks that some people have exactly and that's okay it's okay yeah okay so to wrap this
01:08:30.360 up what do you want people to know when it comes to wanting to create content as like a woman in the
01:08:37.660 field of like film or just existing in the film space in general what is it what's like your best
01:08:44.040 piece of advice you want to give maybe other women or other people who want to do what you do
01:08:48.240 i i think that the big thing that i try to impart to people um to to women and femme presenting people
01:08:55.580 in general is just that it's okay to openly and unabashedly love things that maybe like typical
01:09:05.940 rigid standards of like film appreciation and film criticism would tell you are not not good like
01:09:13.120 people love to use the word objectively now even though it's like completely antithetical to the idea of
01:09:17.260 art but like if somebody tells you that something that you love is objectively bad like that's just
01:09:25.000 don't be afraid to say you're wrong yeah like i i hate that the imdb top 100 and yeah like we've
01:09:32.820 talked about earlier like this idea that there's a specific type of film or genre or like a film
01:09:38.100 films that appeal to a specific type of audience are just inherently better um and i love one of the
01:09:45.040 things i love about tiktok and seeing the different kinds of women that have come on and talked about
01:09:50.320 their favorite media is that i feel like it's really normalized it for women and helped a lot
01:09:54.960 of women feel more confident in saying you know like like rom-coms for example like like i love rom-coms
01:09:59.320 what's wrong with liking a rom-com um and yeah but i guess my biggest the thing that i really want to
01:10:04.780 achieve with my content is just making women and girls feel more secure going into the film industry or
01:10:10.600 just openly speaking about how much they love films that maybe don't like typically seem like
01:10:16.240 you're like the classics yeah because who is anybody to tell you that they're not as good as
01:10:21.300 the godfather and yeah literally citizen kane like listen i've seen legally blonde exactly i've seen the
01:10:27.300 wedding planner masterpieces both of them that's what i'm saying listen the other woman quality film
01:10:33.480 exactly you know what and that's i just oscar snubbed exactly for i think all three leads yeah
01:10:39.200 all three all three of them you know i love that movie i you know what's the movie i love the heat
01:10:44.300 oh the heat is so good dude they have such good chemistry the way that i laugh my ass i just watched
01:10:50.120 tammy recently have you seen spy yes by completely blew me away so funny so hilarious unbelievably funny i i
01:10:58.540 love shit like those are like my favorite kinds of movies to watch because they're just so fun and
01:11:02.200 like mindless like you can watch it and go on a little trip and then come back but i did the way i
01:11:08.460 was laughing my ass off at tammy like i've never seen the movie i was i was i was belly laughing bro like
01:11:14.280 melissa mccarthy i love that girl but like that's like a perfect example like you love you love a silly
01:11:19.580 movie like that girl yeah do what you love what you want to love listen men have had die hard and
01:11:27.340 like they've had they're like ridiculous like and they've been like critical darlings a lot of the
01:11:32.400 time too and it's like the fast and furious 38 movies that they've made like come on i saw hobs and
01:11:38.280 shaw so funny so funny i mean i i i'm gonna get blasted but i i actually have never seen a full fast
01:11:45.000 and furious movie if you're gonna watch one watch hobs and shaw okay you don't need to see the other
01:11:49.520 25 you could just watch hobs and shaw that'll just compress all the best hobs and shaw was so
01:11:55.240 funny i don't really care for the samuan part of it but that's from that's in my opinion as a
01:12:00.400 samuan person i can say that but the rest of it hilarious yeah so funny that's why i i tell women
01:12:05.640 all the time or women if i'm presenting people anyone else in between if you love something like
01:12:10.380 it really doesn't matter what you love yeah a terrible man is gonna hate you for it anyways
01:12:14.000 love whatever you want bitch our society has just demonized so much of anything that appeals to
01:12:20.540 girls and women for so long that i just feel like it's it's important to actively do the work of
01:12:24.440 saying you know this is this is something that appeals to women that doesn't inherently make it bad
01:12:29.280 and you're not no matter what some like mad film bro on the internet tells you you're not dumb or wrong
01:12:35.720 for liking it you know period like love that i will say one more thing women and femme presenting
01:12:42.500 people in general drive consumerism absolutely they deem what's popular babe you get the girlies
01:12:48.540 on your side you're going viral oh i just ask me and jay soups that's my point so i've had so many
01:12:56.540 conversations with men who literally try to argue with me that well men make up the most of consumers
01:13:01.500 they buy the most movie theater tickets correct statistically speaking i can confidently say
01:13:05.960 you're wrong exactly no literally that's why brands love when you have predominantly female
01:13:11.800 driven demographics because women buy shit who run the world you know love that the queen said it best
01:13:17.440 perfect thank you so much to the wonderful megan cruzan aka jay stoves for joining me today i absolutely
01:13:23.840 adore you you're so fun can i tell you like how excited i was to come on here like i was like i get to
01:13:28.580 going with drew love where can everybody find you uh i am on most of the places i am some variation of
01:13:35.840 jay stoves on most social media tic tac jay stoves i'm on instagram i also like to tweet a lot i've
01:13:40.680 got myself in trouble on twitter a little bit you and me both yeah you and me both i tweeted about
01:13:46.380 peanut butter and jelly and i lit that place up was it about elvis no but it should have been oh my god
01:13:51.660 i'm gonna start again actually i did have one viral tweet about elvis
01:13:54.020 branding branding it stays consistent thank you so much to jay stoves for joining me today thank
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