The Comment Section with Drew Afualo - September 03, 2025


QUEEN BEES OF CLOWN SCHOOL Ft. Ashnikko | Episode 185


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 4 minutes

Words per Minute

194.27603

Word Count

12,454

Sentence Count

6

Misogynist Sentences

36

Hate Speech Sentences

84


Summary

In this episode of the comment section show starring me, your fave, who cares about me, on to the guest today, we have the iconic, the legendary, the unbelievably talented, Ash Nichole Nickels, AKA the queen bee of clown school.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 i'm on hinge as well i don't give a fuck i'm i'll give a damn i just reply i just reply to all
00:00:06.580 all these men men's like little pictures themselves like yes diva they hate it
00:00:13.000 hey everyone and welcome back to another episode of the comment section show starring me your fave
00:00:23.120 who cares about me on to the guest today we have the iconic the legendary the unbelievably talented
00:00:28.620 ash nico oh my god thank you so much for having me oh my god of course i'm so excited to be here
00:00:37.240 likewise you're a legend for many years stop it good thing it's on camera good thing we're
00:00:43.440 recording we're rolling i love that i'm a huge fan as well thank you it's an honor to have you
00:00:47.880 legend thank you how have you been i am so good i'm wearing my little clown outfit with my clown
00:00:54.320 makeup to my clown job and here we are you and me both having a little yeah right i call myself a
00:01:00.420 clown for hire it's good yeah i actually for the longest time i was threatening to my manager that
00:01:06.440 i was going to go to the clown school outside of paris and really study it professionally i think
00:01:12.820 it's important i think you would thrive i know i would thrive they would never see you again that's
00:01:17.380 why they can't let you do it yeah i think it would be crazy for me there i think i would really
00:01:21.160 establish myself as a queen bee of clown school i think so too i think you'd graduate with high
00:01:26.560 honors yeah i love that this episode is presented to you by ebay we all have that piece you know the
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00:01:45.140 researching stay up dreaming about pieces again and again i'm talking that muu muu off the run
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00:02:10.660 love well what's new with you lately anything new anything interesting other than your amazing music
00:02:15.960 thank you i um was just in new york i just took a little a little sleepy on the plane and now we're
00:02:22.540 here i feel a little crazy i'm bloated um me too yeah i'm always bloated i just had a crazy day
00:02:29.300 yesterday i had korean barbecue and pizza and two chocolate chip cookies and i'm lactose intolerant
00:02:35.120 and gluten intolerant and i said i'm indestructible he said you only live once you know what would be
00:02:41.960 awesome on a plane taking dairy yes gluten when you can't have either yes it's perfect
00:02:47.380 yeah i had a window seat as well
00:02:50.540 yeah i love lactose intolerant queen me too and i just love lactose i love lactose
00:02:58.420 me too they're like i'll get i'll go and i'll get a vegan hot chocolate and they're like do you want
00:03:04.400 whipped cream yes yes of course i do yeah like i tried balance the first half of it i tried the second
00:03:10.260 half i'm gonna shit my pants yeah ask me more than once i'm gonna cave yeah same at one time i had
00:03:16.220 like i think it was we will i was in new york i went to quality italian have you ever been there no
00:03:22.660 highly recommend i feel like it's the only restaurant i've ever been to in new york even though i've been
00:03:27.200 to new york two billion times at this no that's fine you can have your faves you have to go to the
00:03:31.220 same places i know what i'm gonna get when i get there that being said when i went there for probably
00:03:35.160 the 30th time i had ricotta but i thought it was burrata which burrata also kind of hurts me
00:03:41.620 but you know some of them you're like this one doesn't hurt me that bad yeah so i thought it was
00:03:45.600 burrata oh girl i barely made it home yeah i had hot butt all night there is nothing worse than
00:03:51.780 feeling like you're gonna shit your pants in new york city yeah on that walk back to the hotel no
00:03:56.800 there's no public toilets anywhere anywhere and everyone's mean if you go in there and ask to use
00:04:01.120 the restroom they yell i feel like it happens to everyone everyone has a i almost shit my pants
00:04:05.060 in new york city that's the new york experience it's so scary that's the only way you can get it
00:04:09.020 the next morning i had an i had like full day of press i had to get up at three to do glam when i
00:04:15.800 got up i i had to shower three times that night yeah it was working me like a dog that night then i
00:04:21.720 went and i had the worst probably one of the worst interviews of my entire life i was being asked
00:04:26.700 questions i should not have been being asked and wasn't prepared for i'm sitting there and i'm thinking
00:04:30.680 you have no idea the battles i've been fighting you want to ask me a question like that i'm sitting
00:04:36.380 here like refiki big old red butt and you're asking me questions yeah yeah oh god you have
00:04:41.420 no idea the wars that i fought i barely made it in the chair this morning yeah yeah so anyway that's
00:04:48.140 kind of where i am now nice just like intestinally love that but you look fabulous thank you that's
00:04:54.360 what matters thank you so much i feel good i feel it it's all coming back up i'm i'm tight i'm ready
00:05:00.660 love yeah amazing well for those who are maybe new to your lore i am i'm very familiar to your lore
00:05:06.000 how did you get into music just to get started um so my lore is really crazy so i i went to school
00:05:14.660 in eastern europe um so when i was 13 my dad moved us to the baltic country of latvia
00:05:23.120 um and i did know that about you it's really yeah it's really rogue and still to this day people
00:05:30.800 are like why did you do that i don't know you said i was 13 so i don't really know yeah i was 13 and my
00:05:36.980 dad put me in public school and he said good luck kid and um i was fighting battles i was so i was 15
00:05:44.640 when i was finally like i'm gonna make music but i i really needed like an older sister
00:05:51.780 character for myself so i crafted this stage persona and then i started writing diss tracks about all the
00:05:58.740 mean bitches in my class as you do yeah naturally yeah yeah they hated me um and yeah that's where it
00:06:08.380 started so i was making music in eastern europe um and then i moved to london when i was 18 and
00:06:16.340 it all went from there yeah and now i make music about my little sub boyfriends
00:06:24.320 here we are and i love you for it thank you uh you're my hero thank you so much
00:06:29.640 i how was it moving to london um initially i mean i feel like it's not that big of a change
00:06:34.820 probably from i mean when i was when i was 18 it was it was huge for me i didn't know anyone
00:06:39.480 um i moved in with like these absolute rat bitches they were so they were so crazy i feel like i've had
00:06:47.760 so many crazy housemates um but yeah it was terrifying i had way more confidence when i was
00:06:54.220 18 than i do now for some reason like the things i was doing the situations i was putting myself in
00:07:00.180 when i was 18 i would like go up to a stranger and be like hey listen to my music like now i'm like
00:07:06.520 don't talk to me at a party but well thank god you did yeah i was like tap dancing on street corners
00:07:13.940 like listen to my mixtape baby you're gonna love it and they did with the transatlantic accent and
00:07:20.300 everything i love that that's my real i would have remembered you too if you said that to me i would
00:07:25.800 remembered you too i'm curious i was just curious how your experience was living there acclimating
00:07:30.300 yeah to their terrible food yeah yes british cuisine specifically yes all other cultures are
00:07:36.640 wonderful yes um english food let's talk about it i really like treacle tart okay like treacle tart
00:07:46.080 and yeah yeah i really like treacle tart um i also like beans no i don't i don't like their beans
00:07:54.040 not their beans not their beans but beans in general i like i don't like what they've done
00:07:58.680 to be same theirs are very ketchupy what's going on there yeah too much sugar i just want i just want
00:08:04.360 a bean i just want a real a pure holistic bean yeah yeah they're tarting up beans over there what's
00:08:09.620 going on i don't need it they're slutting them out over there it's terrible those slutty little beans
00:08:14.100 yeah um yeah no i don't love i don't love what they've done to food but the food scene in
00:08:22.560 monday is incredible it is yeah there's just british cuisine specifically i was like what
00:08:27.180 is going on because when i went i started a war with them unfortunately i didn't mean to but you
00:08:32.980 know it is what it is i am who i am yeah but i was really excited to try like a true english breakfast
00:08:38.580 okay because i it was giving like charcuterie to me and i'm a big like charcuterie fan i'm like
00:08:44.940 have you ever heard of balkan breakfast what's a balkan breakfast right i will explain it to you
00:08:49.360 ash nico balkan breakfast is literally i've watched dudes on tiktok eat them eat it but it's
00:08:54.900 just a bunch of veggies it's like oh oh oh yeah and they have like kielbasa sausage mustard and they
00:09:00.840 just eat it it's the most primal way of eating in my opinion that i'm fucking with so i was like
00:09:06.440 you know what maybe i'll like a british like breakfast like a proper one it's not primal i know
00:09:11.440 it's it's just giving awful everything about it is awful it's giving world war ii i'm really upset
00:09:17.080 about it when i eat it i tried it three times i was like okay maybe i'll try it somewhere else
00:09:20.460 maybe i'll try it somewhere else the third time i said you've lost it i don't fucking like it either
00:09:25.080 no and i've had i've had fish and chips there that was pretty good they rock yeah that was pretty good
00:09:29.940 it was i was like you should just make all your food this yeah make it make it this yeah and then
00:09:34.280 the big vinegar on the side yeah yeah i don't like how there's no air conditioning in anywhere
00:09:40.680 ever there but like other than that i'm like fish and chips rocking with it summertime titties in the
00:09:46.220 butt cheeks sweating bad sweating bad i'm in my bed like naked begging for death just waiting for
00:09:53.560 it to come yeah i have a fan like just in my hole yeah i like don't have sex in the summertime
00:10:00.820 how could you i'd be like get off i don't yeah i don't have any sex in the summertime i can't even
00:10:07.760 fathom that yeah touching at all in that time not at all well i agree i'm so sorry that's oh it's
00:10:14.960 i wish you had a better culinary experience yeah i did have delicious italian food while i was
00:10:20.840 there so good so delicious so many italians in london and they make incredible food yeah great
00:10:26.260 indian food yeah that delish so good yeah and then some british people started getting real pissed
00:10:31.840 off at me when i was like joking about it with them i thought we were having fun you know america
00:10:36.560 has a lot of faults too if your guys's thing is fucking food i think it's all right um but even
00:10:41.860 when i was joking around with them i was like well you know a lot they started saying things like
00:10:46.160 well that's because you americans are so fat you're used to additives and shit i said right well
00:10:50.200 you should start putting them in your food too because it's ass like i don't want to eat stuff
00:10:53.620 that tastes like lye don't make me eat that that's fucked up yeah no i don't i don't really enjoy an
00:10:59.480 english breakfast but i think that i think okay there is something i feel like a little hobbit the
00:11:05.280 other day i was sorry i'm getting overwhelmed i was in dartmoor the other day on the moors and i went to
00:11:10.920 this old pub on the top of a hill and there were loads of ponies everywhere and we were just eating
00:11:16.980 slop and i was like i don't care what i'm eating i'm looking at baby ponies right now i feel like a
00:11:23.980 little hobbit at the end of my quest i feel so good you could give me literally anything majestic and i
00:11:30.000 would and i would have loved it i love i would have shoveled it in my hole yeah yeah i'm with you on
00:11:34.500 that they probably would have got me with the view too there were a bunch of baby ponies it was so good
00:11:38.960 we were all like it was really good what's your favorite animal right now i'm really i'm really
00:11:45.940 keen on a pony because that really changed me i was like i am an adult now i can maybe get a pony
00:11:52.860 i bet you could um especially out there i'm sure yeah maybe i'll get a pony i'm not gonna get a pony
00:11:57.800 but um i think i think octopus sorry i love that we're swerving i like that's that's scary to me but
00:12:06.160 like sea creatures scare me in a way where i have a lot of respect for them yes like i don't want any
00:12:11.760 problems yeah and like you do what you gotta do yeah that's how i feel there yeah you stay there
00:12:17.540 i'll stay here no problems i don't want ever to go on a submarine or to space they feel the same
00:12:24.480 i'm with you on that something's wrong with you if you want to do those things i agree what do you
00:12:29.620 got to see up there yeah i don't need to see whatever's up there it's not for me yeah what's meant
00:12:33.920 for me will be for me who will be right here under my feet i remember i don't know who said that their
00:12:38.980 biggest red flag is a man who wants to go to space yeah i agree with that that's wholeheartedly
00:12:44.740 right a man is like i would love to go to space why why to colonize it probably not enough for you
00:12:51.220 here go up there and harass some aliens or something probably fuck out of here
00:12:55.140 they don't want you in space they don't want you i don't want you here but i wouldn't put you in
00:13:01.980 space that's for sure i wouldn't subject space to that that sucks yeah so space and under under
00:13:07.580 the sea i i don't know i i can't none of my business none of my business that's how i feel
00:13:13.160 none of my business don't want to bother y'all yeah but they actually i saw i read a little article
00:13:18.800 the other day about octopuses and they have built cities i believe them they have roads yeah they have
00:13:24.920 highways they have buildings and schools even yeah so if they take over yeah free health care
00:13:32.560 yeah there you go free education yeah they're having a good time at least someone's doing it
00:13:37.360 yeah let it be the octopi if it has to be i love it back to your uh your red flag about men do you
00:13:43.340 have do you have any particular red flags about men right now okay so um i am a bisexual yes um i did
00:13:50.680 know that i'm a bisexual um and i have started dating men again after some years of not dating
00:13:57.560 men um and it's been crazy yeah yeah i kind of um i jumped straight in i said let me just get raya
00:14:07.520 and be a whore and i did i love that plan yeah that's smart how's it going oh god yeah i'm busy
00:14:15.580 but not summertime as i said i don't have sex in the summer it's a rule and in the summer rule of
00:14:20.620 thumb yeah um yeah it's been really wild i am an absolute dog i didn't know i had it in me but when
00:14:28.020 it comes to men i am a dog fucking period i just like sometimes you need a you need a you need a
00:14:33.020 period of time to do that yeah just wreak havoc on them i am they like it they fucking love it they
00:14:39.060 love it i will literally go someone for four months and send a you up text yeah and they're like
00:14:44.420 yes yeah why because they're easy yeah they're so easy it's fine it is it's fucking true they'll
00:14:53.200 do anything yeah it's true they don't care they're easy i love that's why when sometimes when i get hate
00:14:59.060 from men and they're like men are gonna like this okay you mean you right all the men i've ever
00:15:04.700 interacted with had no problems yeah in fact they prefer it yeah um it's crazy yeah it's really it's
00:15:11.240 really wild a lot of them want to go to space it's really alarming me that is so scary what do
00:15:16.760 they have any reasoning have you heard any legitimate reasoning i don't like absorb much
00:15:22.820 when they talk yeah same same same um i just hear the top lines and then i feel like i got the gist
00:15:28.780 so i just kind of tune out after that i'm like can you give me a synopsis yeah my mom used to say
00:15:34.000 this thing where she's like five seconds before the end of your story like start there five seconds
00:15:37.820 then go yeah i'm like great that's what i that's with men it's perfect yeah even that's probably a
00:15:43.580 little bit too much time for being real yeah it's true though i'm on hinge as well i don't give a
00:15:48.220 fuck i'm i'll give a damn i just reply i just reply to all all these men men's like little pictures
00:15:55.820 themselves like yes diva they hate it they're like what the fuck are you talking about i don't really
00:16:03.240 know what that means yeah yeah you do you're a diva and a princess and if you're not i don't want to
00:16:08.300 talk to you that's fair anything men do though like i'm sure you get this i get called the
00:16:14.520 misandrist do you get called that no i wear it like a crown yeah
00:16:19.560 right thank you i'll wear one too absolutely i'd love to yeah i said i just made a video about this
00:16:27.260 the other day because sometimes men i feel like have been asleep for the last four years and then
00:16:33.280 they log on to tiktok.com and they're like i'm gonna call this bitch fat and ugly and mean uh which
00:16:38.180 has been done to me many many times hasn't changed my pace at all if anything it's just motivated me
00:16:43.440 even more but i feel like i was saying they keep saying i hate when a woman makes hating men their
00:16:48.740 whole entire personality okay then why do you keep bothering me yeah like that's my main question like
00:16:54.260 okay if you know i hate you and i've told you to your face i hate you why do you keep coming over
00:16:58.160 here hating you is their personality yeah they're like why i said even if i tell you i hate you you're
00:17:03.720 gonna still come back over here and ask me why that's why obsessed that's why like everything about
00:17:09.560 the essence of what you're doing right now that's why so i think that they have a pretty low reading
00:17:16.220 level yes and for sure when they say i was just talking about this the other day when they
00:17:21.240 comment the same shit over and over again i think it's because they don't know any other adjectives
00:17:27.120 or words in general like their vocabulary is really small their reading level is really low
00:17:32.040 they don't consume media or art or read books outside of what's on their phone i think i think
00:17:40.300 that's just your answer they have no other words yeah yeah they're real limited yeah their their
00:17:46.620 language is is is pretty it's limited yeah pretty limited yeah it's very uh elementary i know and
00:17:54.400 even when i say that they're like it well that's the the most hilarious part about when men like try
00:17:59.460 to dissect my content sometimes like they'll be like this is what she's really saying as if i don't know
00:18:06.100 and the women who love me don't know like they're like you stupid fucking bitch this is what she's
00:18:11.040 really saying as if i'm talking to them at all so like sometimes when i say they're like oh well
00:18:17.100 it's really alienating to men yeah that's kind of the fucking point yeah it's not for you baby yeah
00:18:22.700 it's not for you at all in fact i'm using you as a pawn i'm i'm stepping on your back to get further
00:18:28.600 ahead that's what i'm doing i've said that so many times still don't listen to me what am i shocked
00:18:34.440 not at all but i'm sure i'm sure you're not any stranger to that especially like them giving you
00:18:39.920 unsolicited advice i'm sure yeah or commentary on your art the other day i i've had a lot of people
00:18:45.260 recent like okay so i'm going through a really slutty phase of my life love special sacred very
00:18:51.540 sacred moment for me totally um and i'm showing a little bit more ass my shirts my sorry my skirts
00:18:58.440 are getting a little shorter love um clown skirt period and i've had a lot of like neck beard fans
00:19:07.960 be like who's making her dress like this i'm just so scared for her i'm so scared someone at her
00:19:15.200 record that was making her put her body out like this i'm like babe i'm a whore yeah so yeah i don't
00:19:23.380 think you're listening to me i love getting my pussy ate hello hello what do i gotta do here like
00:19:34.460 what's a girl gotta do yeah so like my own sexual liberation and autonomy is not my own they can't
00:19:41.900 even like fathom view that as something like that yeah can't they can't even fathom that that would be
00:19:47.240 my choice yeah even that is like there there's no way she would ask to look like that yeah what
00:19:53.300 hot i disagree yeah and also i feel like the femininity that i am channeling right now it
00:20:04.020 feels like performance it feels like drag it feels like costume totally i go home and i like
00:20:09.720 dress like a teenage boy yeah so the duality of men i'm just i'm just trying i'm i'm just playing
00:20:16.960 around with gender right now absolutely i think that i really don't need permission to do so um
00:20:24.120 you sure as hell don't but yeah i don't even i don't even really read the comments anymore
00:20:27.840 i just see i'm just having a good time shaking my body around acting like a dog
00:20:35.160 that's my favorite thing that you do i encourage your slutty face i encourage many women and many
00:20:41.380 anyone really to have a slutty face safely and consensually i'm like i encourage you if you can
00:20:46.640 do it safely consensually be a whore yeah that's what i did yeah and it was great it was a time
00:20:51.420 it's special i am noting though in um queer spaces i wish that there was like a sort of a lesbian bath
00:21:01.160 house situation that was like sexier and had really good interior design
00:21:06.380 in my head i can see it so clearly you should look into that i think you would curate it
00:21:11.580 yeah it's like walking into a womb it's like a cavern with candlelight and there's like
00:21:16.600 incredible cushions everywhere with this amazing bespoke embroidered um cloth i would love i would
00:21:24.440 love to make some sort of some sort of orgy situation i i think i think like uh yeah the
00:21:31.500 the lesbian equivalent of a bath house is really really needed you got to work on it then yeah
00:21:36.640 there's a hole in that demographic right there you in the market there's a hole that's it's right
00:21:40.660 there for you it's right there in front of you yeah yeah i'm gonna do it i i encourage you to do so
00:21:47.100 it would be a hit especially if it's uh co-signed by you yeah hell yeah my next business venture
00:21:53.060 it's like those all-female gyms but it's an all all women all lesbians specifically i would i would
00:22:00.640 love yeah uh a bath house for for queer femmes yeah i think that would be very special yeah lesbians
00:22:07.720 are are like my north star when it comes to hating men follow them like a guiding light i was like they
00:22:13.760 have it figured out that's gorgeous i'm following that i'm following their in their footsteps in their
00:22:18.920 path yeah i think it's beautiful back to hard pivot back to your music uh when did you first start
00:22:26.060 to feel like you're like in your career in general when did you first start to feel like oh my god i
00:22:30.840 think this is like becoming like a career that i can start to um take somewhere god i'm trying to
00:22:38.020 remember and you've been working for so long yeah god don't make me feel old um i'm old too it's okay
00:22:45.860 i uh okay i guess yeah i've been putting out music for so long um i think probably like
00:22:53.560 right before the pandemic like 2019 i was like okay wow i think this might be something that i can do
00:23:01.000 for a lifetime yeah i i love to reinvent with each project yeah totally i love it i think there's
00:23:09.500 something so special in reinventing yourself every year yeah new closet newbie new hair like i think i
00:23:18.720 would love my whole life to just spend every year just reinventing myself not even in my career just
00:23:24.160 as a person just in general yeah i love that i would love to be like 65 and going to forestry school
00:23:31.300 and like running a community garden and then next year i don't know having a cabaret show you know what i
00:23:39.000 mean i love that and i see all of that in your future tap dancing yeah all of it makes a lot of
00:23:43.460 sense for you i think i think i would also love to like work an iron forge and make swords yeah you
00:23:50.600 know absolutely yeah you could do it all yeah i feel like i i believe in that honestly if you could
00:23:57.200 like reinvent next year and do something like completely different what would you do oh i would
00:24:02.300 do something imagine i said i turn into a trad wife or something that'd be so fun i was like
00:24:07.560 that's what i want to be um she's just so far left of me i would want to be like oh i'd want to do
00:24:13.160 like some sabrina carpenter shit or something just completely 180 go completely blonde shrink at least
00:24:18.500 nine inches yes they can do that then start doing very sexual innuendos 60s mod housewife
00:24:24.880 completely left of me i think that would be fun okay crazy i think that would be really fun and silly
00:24:29.740 i love that the shrinking part i have to work on but i think i could do it yeah oh my god
00:24:33.800 you know what i love i love on tiktok i love watching um men who do the um the lengthening
00:24:40.240 surgeries to get taller
00:24:42.300 i love it i love it i love it so much we're already laughing because i was thinking because
00:24:53.120 i've seen them too yeah wait have you seen materialists the movie no i haven't do you care
00:24:58.880 if i spoil something for you i love when people spoil movies me too i will i will be starting
00:25:04.740 in the first five minutes of watching a movie i'm looking up how does this movie end on wikipedia
00:25:08.900 me too i do the same thing i don't like a surprise yeah me either i'm like i need to know how it's
00:25:14.500 gonna end i need to know where we're going yeah i need to and be prepared and i'll still be like
00:25:18.080 on the journey i didn't watch it i just read it exactly i'm still gonna experience it i just didn't
00:25:24.140 know what's gonna happen okay so tell me with materialists so basically she has to choose
00:25:28.300 between her broke ex-boyfriend and this rich new guy pedro pascal's the rich guy chris evans is the
00:25:33.060 broke guy okay they go through the whole storyline it's it's pretty weird but with pedro like it's
00:25:39.060 kind of like you're confused why she doesn't really like latch on to this guy because the brokey ex
00:25:44.440 it's like he's a brokey ex also he's fucking mean to her so there's that too yeah but like why are
00:25:49.300 they always broke and mean girl fuck if i know and also in the movie he's like 35 and has three
00:25:55.320 roommates and lives in new york no money who shall i pick but anyways with pedro you're kind of asking
00:26:04.020 yourself like something has to be off with this guy like i really thought that he was gonna be a
00:26:07.880 murderer or something yeah turns out his greatest faux pas because one time in the movie he sees like
00:26:13.520 when they're sleeping next to each other he has like scars on his leg and she's like like who hurt you
00:26:18.660 kind of thing yeah but he doesn't want to talk about it then later on at the end when you find
00:26:22.580 out what's wrong with him she touches his leg for real and then he gets all cagey about it leaves
00:26:26.720 then she follows him and she's like just share it with me bitch he got that height surgery when i
00:26:32.160 tell you i watched that shit i said
00:26:33.760 it was blown away bitch that plot twist blew my fucking mind and he was like my brother and i got
00:26:43.080 the surgery together i used to be five four now i'm like six feet tall i said what the fuck that's
00:26:50.300 so special so special i love watching the height surgeries too and also what's crazy is when they
00:26:55.100 get them like you said they can't do anything yeah can't run can't hike yeah but they can tell people
00:27:01.120 i'm now five ten gender affirming surgery
00:27:04.460 i i love it they just can't be athletic at all anymore no it's over for them but at least they can
00:27:13.160 say they're six foot
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00:28:33.560 everyday i do have some fun facts for you oh my god if we if we want to go over them i love a fact
00:28:38.800 okay this one says that you were once suspended from school for writing quote an excrement filled story
00:28:44.640 involving their teacher is that true so what's going on there and was that in latvia yeah god
00:28:53.160 no sense of humor in latvia apparently crazy um i don't think i've ever like fully told this story
00:29:01.080 i think i've like tiptoed around it i um when i was 11 i had a best friend um and i was in love with
00:29:09.400 her so in love it was like classic like small town north carolina like i was in love with her
00:29:15.780 didn't know what what to do with all this rage i was so mad at her for liking boys we were she was
00:29:21.620 like practicing kissing on me i was like we should practice tonight she was like hell yeah i was like
00:29:30.020 i'm open for practicing girl um and yeah so we were like attached to the hip we were so chaotic
00:29:40.680 together we were always getting in trouble i was always getting in trouble in school
00:29:43.760 for talking and laughing i was like the type of kid who couldn't stop laughing in school
00:29:49.940 to the point where i'm like snotting out my nose and then the teacher tells me to stop and i'm i'm
00:29:54.380 it's amping making it worse yeah so we first of all when we were in fourth grade we would draw
00:30:00.960 pictures of titties and sell them to the boys right um women women owned businesses yes support small
00:30:07.860 women-owned businesses yes we were entrepreneurial yes of course girl bossing my parents found out and
00:30:14.700 they were like okay crazy but you have drive and we respect that and i love my parents for that
00:30:20.620 so supportive um okay so that was the beginning of our story and then in fifth grade we played this
00:30:27.260 game where we would pass a notebook back and forth and we would each write a paragraph of a story we
00:30:32.180 just had to continue on the story it was a collaborative effort yeah and we had this one
00:30:36.360 teacher oh my god so bad um we had this one teacher and he was like he was oh my god this is actually
00:30:46.880 so bad he was okay so he had come from australia to teach he was like on a visa teaching elementary
00:30:53.960 school in america in fucking north carolina and um we would write our stories about him because it was
00:31:00.160 funny yeah um and yeah and in the story he like got up on the desk and like there was excrement involved
00:31:08.800 there was like a sasquatch and he was like fighting a sasquatch with a machete and then there was like
00:31:14.380 shit on the desk and it was crazy this poop was a big part of the story poop was a huge part of the
00:31:20.000 story i really don't remember the story loads but i know it was so nonsensical yeah like it made no
00:31:26.240 fucking sense yeah our teacher picked up the story we're watching her read it at the front of class
00:31:31.120 both of us are like white as a sheet so scared shaking in our little boots and um we get called to
00:31:39.460 the principal's office and he ends up getting investigated for doing those things for fighting
00:31:45.480 sasquatch and pooping on the desk god forbid a woman imagines god forbid they investigated him
00:31:54.360 for for shitting on the desk i'm like i'm like in front of the principal i'm like babe he didn't do
00:31:59.100 he didn't do that any of it not even the sasquatch part if you can believe it
00:32:02.460 but we got suspended big time oh god forbid a woman has a sense of whimsy i know god forbid god
00:32:09.380 forbid god forbid did you like fan do you like fan fiction um have you liked fan fiction i was
00:32:15.460 writing a little bit of twilight fan fiction at one point oh love you big twilight twihard i was a
00:32:21.460 twihard nice big time what team uh i loved edward because vampires yeah the mystical element yeah i i just
00:32:30.300 loved i loved him i loved his his tortured gaze i loved his little pea coat right his little gray
00:32:35.960 pop collar yeah and the ray-bans oh my god oh the bitches were gagging over the ray-bans his little
00:32:42.340 volkswagen yeah hell yeah crazy such a mom car too yeah why'd she give him that car you know when he
00:32:48.140 like whips up in the in the volkswagen yeah like yeah heels out when i was 12 i was like
00:32:53.820 this is okay so i also really wanted to be him so i like begged my mom for a pea coat
00:33:03.620 i had you're experiencing gender euphoria i had that gray pea coat i was like no i just
00:33:11.440 seen the volkswagen and bitches are gonna love me they did it i was like when i was younger well
00:33:18.740 first off i went to the movies to see those movies when they came out at like midnight me too like
00:33:24.980 i went and that makes me sound a hundred to tiktok people now but like at the time you should have
00:33:29.560 been there you it was crazy i was feral i was foaming at the mouth waiting in line at the movie
00:33:36.140 theater when i was younger i was team jacob i think that was because i'm always down for the brown
00:33:41.240 so like i'm like well obviously gotta ride with my indigenous brother he turns out taylor
00:33:45.840 laudner's non-indigenous uh-oh uh but i didn't know that at the time didn't they they actually
00:33:50.500 had an indigenous boy playing jacob and then they recast him yeah they recast him yeah as taylor
00:33:56.120 laudner and then the rest of them are indigenous for real fucked up yeah but then what's funny is
00:34:00.360 like as i got older i was like well team edward he has the money i should follow the money yeah like
00:34:06.620 when he would talk about having just endless amounts of money i was like well that choice seems easy
00:34:10.780 like i'm like well yeah they both look good and one lives forever and has a lot of money it kind
00:34:16.580 of seems like yeah i mean edward in his little glass house yeah with his chaise lounge i love that
00:34:23.780 shit well how was your fan fiction what kind of fan fix what was the vibe in them i don't know
00:34:27.880 i think he was like coming to pick me up from school
00:34:30.580 he was like i love you ashton
00:34:34.500 oh and the teacher couldn't read that one huh yeah to pick up the poop one we just both wore a
00:34:41.280 peacoat and like sat in the parking lot you shared a wardrobe and fell in love i love that yeah you
00:34:46.780 like helped me in my home one i read i read i wrote fan fiction as a kid when i was like a big fan of
00:34:53.240 the jonas brothers so i wrote like jonas brother fan fiction oh yeah the worst part though is that i
00:34:58.320 wasn't even in it yeah i didn't even cast myself i said damn i cast i cast the real girls in their
00:35:05.300 lives at the time i said i'm not even in this story there's no why and anywhere to be seen
00:35:10.220 and i and also his diabetes was a huge part of the story oh yeah my bad you know i was 12 i thought
00:35:17.040 maybe it was a huge plot point i thought i did a pretty good job how did you incorporate that in the
00:35:21.700 story well i had so i will preface this by saying selena gomez was the enemy in my story
00:35:27.980 didn't know their tea didn't know their war and miley cyrus was the main girl see i wasn't even
00:35:32.920 the fucking girl like what is the point i'm just commentating on their life this is what i'm just
00:35:37.040 writing what i think is going on um i don't remember like what the premise was i think it was just like
00:35:43.620 they were together like miley and they were together they're on the best of both worlds tour
00:35:47.000 obviously because they're touring together but then like this is real right yeah the best of both
00:35:53.280 world tour was a real tour yes so my my story took place during that time amazing and one of my
00:35:59.420 favorite parts i remember was writing their outfits like i just remember being wanting to like make
00:36:03.460 them all so conti i was making the outfits so detailed that they were taking up quite a bit of
00:36:07.380 space on the page but anyways you were setting a scene yeah i was setting i was i was building the
00:36:12.120 framework right exactly and i remember he nick jonas tells miley cyrus that he cheated on her
00:36:18.940 with selena gomez and selena gomez didn't didn't care obviously she was the mean girl in my story
00:36:24.120 but then miley cyrus is like they have this very dramatic breakup scene in the rain
00:36:28.040 and i said it in new york too and i'd never been to new york so i had no way of knowing where anything
00:36:33.200 was so i was just writing like landmarks yeah i was like what's the big arch thing that i don't even
00:36:40.100 know what the fuck it's called now bryant park or something with the big taste humor what is my bad
00:36:44.900 that's how you wrote it was square park that's what it is oh i knew it was a park my bad me i've
00:36:49.680 been in new york a thousand times at this point okay washington square park had her run there
00:36:53.400 don't know where she was staying yeah but then when she came back they like didn't really make up they
00:36:58.480 had a show that night then they have the show during the show right during the show they're not
00:37:04.300 interacting at all and then i'm in miley's pov the whole time but then at one point she looks down
00:37:10.260 and sees his his um i don't know the name of the device please don't jump me but it's the one they
00:37:17.080 wear like for yeah it's for type 1 diabetes okay again i was like 11 when i wrote it i just said that
00:37:26.480 she sees it on the ground on this stage and then worries and then he passes out and then she runs
00:37:32.780 over that's where it fades to black and then they wake up in the hospital and that's where i was kind
00:37:38.360 of carrying it don't remember how it ends from there but i just remember writing that scene
00:37:42.180 specifically because i remember i read it a thousand times and i was like god this is so good
00:37:46.200 when i wrote it i was like so dramatic so intense love it crazy yeah what's even worse is i hand wrote
00:37:54.280 it in a notebook oh sorry no you're fine filled the whole notebook i wrote it like a colonial woman
00:37:59.560 oh my god i was writing i was writing by candlelight that's incredible yeah i was a little hat
00:38:04.560 my frilly colored shirt on when i was going to town oh my god i was in the lab writing fanfic crazy
00:38:11.760 yeah that's so beautiful thank you i love how old were you like 11 or 12 that's so special i love
00:38:18.600 the the young girl desire to to craft a world to craft a world as a voyeur yes exactly yeah literally
00:38:27.840 me being a voyeur that's all it was i was like acting like tmz that's so at that point that's
00:38:32.380 never happened to nick jones though as far as i know so i just kind of audible on that one
00:38:36.240 honestly tour tour tensions are high it's chaotic you never know what you never know you never know
00:38:44.160 god speaking of tour do you have any favorite places you like to tour any like specials in your
00:38:49.580 heart can i do um well i love to play a show in london love um because it's like half hometown to me
00:38:57.180 um because i've lived there for so long and i love to play north carolina show as well love
00:39:03.520 hometown um where else i like selfishly i like to play st louis because um fun because of there's
00:39:13.020 a museum there that i really like to go to on my off day so shout out st louis and the city museum
00:39:20.840 love y'all so much i fucking love museum they have a cave they have like a cave system and i went there
00:39:27.720 last time with my crew and we were just in silence we were all on our own little solo journey just
00:39:33.600 crawling on all fours in the cave system in the museum nice it was crazy love that um yeah where
00:39:40.360 else do i like to go i love going to brazil okay come to brazil is real they are the craziest most
00:39:47.340 like enthusiastic fans yeah when i was in brazil i really felt like i was playing a hometown show
00:39:53.280 i bet it was so cool they're just yeah really like giving it um where else germany germany rocks
00:40:03.020 australia rocks i was just touring in march with billy eilish and we were in australia and that was
00:40:10.800 really fun how crazy it was really cool i i loved it we were yeah i mean billy does this really cool
00:40:18.700 thing where she stays in one city for four nights um and so we actually for the first time got to
00:40:24.680 explore the cities that we were in that's nice yeah yeah we were like climbing waterfalls and
00:40:29.660 playing mermaids tea yeah that makes a lot of sense i think that the vibes seem about right
00:40:35.900 with you and billy eilish love her she's amazing it was amazing she's like incredible she's so good
00:40:41.820 that whole album really soundtracked a breakup for me so to hear it night after night it was
00:40:47.220 very emotional and just she's such a powerhouse yeah like the most incredible songwriter of our
00:40:52.860 generation so it was amazing how fun though this episode is brought to you by amazon this
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00:41:25.920 like just generally going on tour i'm like a really frail victorian child um like i every time i go on
00:41:33.960 tour i get like a rare gum disease interesting yeah or like that is giving very victorian yeah yeah or
00:41:39.960 like um like a rash i'll get a really really annoying rash um yeah just your body's just rejecting tour
00:41:47.560 in some way i'm like really nutrient deficient and and something happens to me my bones get really
00:41:53.620 weak um and yeah they have to send me away to the seaside the cliffs are more just me in my notebook
00:42:01.400 writing jonas brothers family yeah exactly i'm gonna start writing jonas you should like i'll start
00:42:08.160 twilight like modern day jonas what are they up to you gotta work in the diabetes that's all you gotta
00:42:14.640 work in is that i will yeah they'll know who it is once you bring that up
00:42:17.520 i will let's do a shared google dog yeah let's do a little bounce ideas off each other i'll start
00:42:24.880 twilight ones you start jonas brothers that's great we'll collab it'll be fine we'll have teams talk for
00:42:29.500 sure i have more i have more fun facts about you oh my god okay this one says that you've said that
00:42:37.060 you don't listen to any male musician you didn't listen to any male musicians until 16 yeah you would
00:42:43.220 you would write that down yeah hell yeah now that's a badge of honor to me yeah uh and it says
00:42:49.840 you grew up listening to female artists like avril lavigne nikki minaj missy elia quen stefani and
00:42:54.160 lil kim yeah period okay cultured britney as well i really love britney yeah um i loved britney too
00:43:01.800 when i was a kid loved her i was obsessed with her she's like so incredible she's just it i hope
00:43:08.080 she's i hope she's well now me too i really i really love her she's just fucking incredible like
00:43:14.020 she had everything she had costumes she had the most amazing choreo she had the voice she had the
00:43:19.920 like just the personality she had everything she was so purely it girl it was so so special to me
00:43:28.040 and when i was like five years old watching her i i had it was like the sky opened up and heaven
00:43:35.020 reached down and just touched me on the forehead and was like you gotta do this right um yeah i
00:43:42.000 didn't listen to any voice until i was yeah like 16 17 i just found their voices really grating
00:43:49.280 and i that makes sense to me i couldn't i couldn't listen to their stories and relate it to my life in
00:43:57.220 any way no of course not you know what i mean yeah of course it just wasn't like i was i would like try
00:44:03.700 my best and and i and i just i couldn't i didn't resonate immediately yeah yeah i feel that um
00:44:10.360 i think my my introduction to men was maybe like odd future love them like i like 16 yeah oh yeah
00:44:18.300 yeah my sister showed me odd future when they were still making youtube skits and everything yeah
00:44:22.740 loved that really good yeah i love when they had that show loiter squad yeah so funny yeah i i remember
00:44:31.200 them them being like i was like okay fine i'll listen to like a few boys and see what happens
00:44:37.840 it's a great one to kick off with if i'm being real yeah i think it's a great one to start with
00:44:41.880 just a little handful of boys yeah see what happens just dip your toe a tiny bit yeah i had like
00:44:46.600 justin bieber for like a moment yeah i remember a friend sending me his first youtube video on msn
00:44:54.240 mm-hmm um and i was like fuck shit i don't have time for this right now
00:45:01.560 yeah i am fully devoted to edward cullen right now i can't i can't squeeze in another guy i just
00:45:09.640 can't right now it's not in the cards yeah me and my little peacoat i can't do this
00:45:15.580 uh well i already got the peacoat yeah i can't start over god i swear to god justin bieber has
00:45:21.560 a great peacoat too somewhere oh oh you're right he does because he was wearing it in some of the
00:45:26.640 all my faves have the great peacoat there's a pattern there that you're following i can sense it
00:45:32.200 oh my god my my next my next re-invention is gonna be is gonna be peacoat it's gotta be
00:45:38.420 it's gotta be peacoat popped collar ray-bans you're gonna try silver lexus or volvo i think
00:45:45.560 it was a volvo yeah yeah love that it's gonna be really good for me i i think it's really gonna
00:45:50.460 take take my fans by surprise but they'll get it yeah they'll get it yeah the ones who get it
00:45:54.780 will get it more importantly i'll get it you'll get it and that's what matters you'll get it
00:45:59.340 thank you did you have any other like fangirl like things throughout life like they were kind of
00:46:05.860 like oh loving them oh who did i love whether it's like music movies you know twilight like the
00:46:12.140 ones that like really changed your life i think i also had that with mia oh wow okay i got that i
00:46:19.260 got a pink ipod nano for christmas when i was 11 my aunt downloaded bucky duncan and i remember there
00:46:26.600 were some bad words in it um and my dad wasn't allowing me to download songs that were explicit so
00:46:32.920 it was a secret between my me and my aunt and i um took my ipod down to my room and i just like
00:46:40.000 hold up in my closet and listen to it over and over and over again and yeah and my early stuff like
00:46:46.200 really blew my mind oh i love that in a big humongous way um in the best way like the way
00:46:52.560 she was playing around with production just it was like nothing i'd ever heard before and i feel like
00:46:58.060 being that playful in music i feel like in pop music especially at that time i feel like it was
00:47:04.460 it was never that playful and yeah yeah what i love about music right now is that people are really
00:47:11.060 being more adventurous and experimental and experimental with their sounds um but people
00:47:17.040 like her paved the way for that what about you who blew your mind when you were a kid well when i got
00:47:23.780 my first ipod nano too i remember being like so blown away that you could listen to music like
00:47:28.500 that without like a cd player because i remember i had a cd player the first two songs i ever bought
00:47:33.580 was you can't touch this by mc hammer and uh too little too late by jojo for some reason i only had
00:47:41.800 two songs i picked those two i don't know what that says about me it makes sense yeah i think so i and
00:47:47.440 i i went through a real uh right before i got my ipod i was like really into my cd player but i went
00:47:53.060 through a real grease phase like grease the movie hell yeah huge phase don't know what it was about
00:47:57.520 that movie in particular but like my parents got me like the double deluxe cd thing so i could listen
00:48:02.760 to it on my way to school yeah my dad used to drive me to school in the mornings like we would my mom
00:48:07.680 would go to work and my dad would take us to school and i remember one time my dad was just me
00:48:11.580 in the car we're driving and i would listen to music and with headphones fully on and i would sing
00:48:19.320 my ass i would belt bitch like i would like like no one was there i would just sing like that
00:48:25.160 and so i remember i would do it every single day i'd play the same five or six tracks that i loved
00:48:30.640 just loop them start over start over start over my dad can't hear yourself up for school yeah i'm just
00:48:35.720 listening my dad drove me every single day for like multiple months in a row i was doing this i remember
00:48:40.800 one day we were sitting in traffic for a while it was bad that day me still belting not a care in the
00:48:46.240 world and then my dad reached over and he goes like this i take i'm like huh i like take my
00:48:50.620 headphone off and he goes i can't do it today i'm so sorry but i can't do it today i love you so much
00:48:56.380 i can't i can't do it today and i go what are you talking about and then he was like can we i can't
00:49:01.040 do it today i'm so sorry he just kept saying that to me and i remember going all right i just like
00:49:06.200 went back to listen to my music just didn't sing out loud because i was like then i was thinking now
00:49:11.320 that i'm an adult when i think back like i was probably like nine my dad listening to that five
00:49:16.960 days a week and in gridlock traffic driving to a job he fucking hates and i'm sitting in the my parents
00:49:24.620 had us young too so my dad was like i would say like early 30s like my age probably i can't imagine
00:49:31.640 listening to me scream yell his 80th time he was like i can't do it today i'm so sorry i love you
00:49:38.160 so much i can't do it today the nicest please shut the fuck up i'm gonna kill myself the nicest way to
00:49:42.920 say that to me i'm gonna take that yeah i was like my dad loves me so much yeah he can't do it just
00:49:48.980 today though just not tomorrow is fine yeah tomorrow we can start over and then the next day i did it
00:49:52.800 again next day didn't learn a thing next day did it again and he just let me never said it to me
00:49:58.920 again but i remember that so distinctly because as a kid i remember thinking that's kind of funny
00:50:03.800 that he like went it was just that day just that one just that one day never did it again yeah he
00:50:10.600 must have been going through something just on that yeah so i was like thinking i'm like what would i do
00:50:15.440 because every other day was a treat and a pleasure for him i'm sure and just that one day he was like
00:50:21.600 listening to me the whole ride down and we were almost to school so he had he almost made it it was
00:50:28.460 it was far he almost made it
00:50:30.920 and honestly i really liked the ones that were mostly
00:50:37.140 men singing and i i think it's because there were just way more parts for me to sing
00:50:41.620 like when there's duos obviously i'm sandy yeah but when you're in grease lightning i'm like all five
00:50:47.020 of them i'm like i gotta be all i gotta clock in i gotta go to work yeah a lot of i got a lot of
00:50:51.400 verses i gotta hit yeah but i can't sing for shit so you know the passion i'm sure that was terrible
00:50:56.880 to listen to yeah okay i have one last fun fact for you oh my god it says that your new album
00:51:02.600 smoochies comes out on october 17th it does can you tell us about it please yes i love this album
00:51:11.140 it is really really silly um i think okay so when i first when i put out my first album which is
00:51:20.960 technically a mixtape but i don't give a fuck about industry semantics it was an album period um
00:51:26.880 i was like so green and fresh and like bright-eyed and i was like people are just gonna love me
00:51:35.740 and be so kind to me and nothing is gonna dull or knock my spirit um and then uh tiktok happened
00:51:43.240 um and i uh yeah funnily enough let them dull and knock my spirit um in a really devalicious kind
00:51:54.460 of way um where i went crazy for a few years and music wasn't as fun to make and with this album
00:52:05.560 i'm i've like found that fun again i love that in a really big way yeah thank you i i've been having
00:52:12.780 so much fun writing and i've been writing with the same people since i was 18 um and with some new
00:52:19.400 people thrown in there and i have just made so many good friends writing this record um yeah i i just
00:52:25.980 realized that i wanted to make playful music and not make music for anyone else but me and like
00:52:33.980 the person that i am when i'm like getting ready to go out with my friends yeah you know when you're
00:52:39.620 with your friends and you are talking about the most heinous shit ever like over a croissant that's
00:52:46.600 the best part yeah best part about girlhood honestly yeah you're like he was up my ass to here
00:52:51.960 but if you can leave it to the elbow
00:52:54.200 and y'all are like drinking a matcha yeah and they're like can i get you guys anything
00:52:59.680 oh no that's it thank you that's that's who this album is for i love yeah i was like i am
00:53:07.760 like such a heinous little like mischief causing imp um and and that's why i need to be i need to be
00:53:17.420 making impish music i need to be i need to be a little like a little creature again um and i'm
00:53:24.880 i i was it was kind of a i was testing myself i wanted to it was it was a practice in writing music
00:53:33.260 writing very sexual um free music very like carnal without it feeling like a performance for someone
00:53:43.120 else right like sexuality just through the lens of how i enjoy it yeah for me totally with other
00:53:50.260 people obviously i love having sex but yeah like shedding a little bit of the performance off of
00:53:56.560 it so that it's just for me yeah absolutely yeah i think that the well i'm sorry to hear that tiktok
00:54:02.160 was fucking a succubus like it can be i mean you know hell yeah girl that's why i'm saying like i
00:54:08.120 completely understand i'm sorry that that happened but i will say you're you're one of those artists
00:54:13.820 that like no one's doing it like you like you're just so uniquely yourself when you get massive like
00:54:22.880 exposure on something like tiktok a lot of people are uncultured first of all but second of all like
00:54:29.580 they don't see it like they don't see the vision and even when i had rebecca black on the show
00:54:34.180 she told me she was like gay people have always seen me like always they've been locked in with
00:54:40.440 me it's like gay people and women yeah and i was like yeah because gay people and women like the
00:54:44.700 way that they champion a horse like they know yeah like the ones that know no they know who's really
00:54:50.220 it and you're it thank you and that's why like people have stood behind you and beside you for a
00:54:55.220 very long time known to you i've known about you for a very long time but that's because you've been
00:54:59.140 grinding and working at it thank you and i think the world hates to see a weird successful woman
00:55:05.020 yeah they hate to see that shit they hate a weird bitch they hate a weirdo and you know what like
00:55:11.460 it's it's what they love saying oh my god this is so satanic yeah babe even if it is read a book
00:55:19.240 god damn it go to a museum that's also the the the laziest assessment of your artistry as a whole
00:55:26.640 yeah but you're someone who like people are going to give you your flowers now like you deserve
00:55:31.840 thank you but even more so down the line when other people try to recreate it or copy it
00:55:36.360 that's when it's going to happen for real thank you that means a lot yeah and you're like you are
00:55:41.500 like m.i.a in a lot of ways like someone who paved the way and everyone thought she was a freak
00:55:45.260 and a weirdo in the beginning too they did and now they look back look at like imaging heaps same
00:55:49.420 thing like strange and odd and to who right to who because to an artist they said the same thing to lady gaga
00:55:56.440 yeah they to an artist they all they do is like jeer from the sidelines because they don't have
00:56:01.760 the confidence to be themselves like that's really what you have and that's what all artists i think
00:56:06.980 have who are like you and and succeed in a way that no one's ever seen before it's because you
00:56:11.760 are so uniquely yourself that scares people who have no idea who the fuck they are so you have no
00:56:16.860 worries about being perceived as as odd or weird or strange because you are confident in who you are
00:56:22.560 and that's what makes people haters to be honest i'm more scared to not to spend a life like not
00:56:27.920 being myself right absolutely thank you so much that was really nice yeah of course that's how i
00:56:34.480 see you i see artists like you like that i see rico nasty that way right like even chapel like
00:56:39.680 love people who are so uniquely themselves and then like also the way you're authentically yourself too
00:56:45.980 when it comes to setting boundaries right or like what things you don't like things you don't fuck with
00:56:49.820 they really hate when they see that people like you uh also be a human like they hate that too
00:56:54.960 they're like i just want to consume you as a product i don't want to consume you as a person
00:56:58.320 yeah so which is i think bullshit yeah and it's why the internet is so dog shit and awful
00:57:04.240 it's it's a it's a really really weird career it's so singular because you're a human being who's
00:57:13.240 making art but it's also a brand yeah um and to like separate you can't separate the two yeah
00:57:19.180 as if your life experiences aren't valid in and of itself they're a lived experience it's not
00:57:23.860 something you're thinking about or making up stories about it's something you're living
00:57:27.460 yeah exactly that is literally what art is yeah it's someone's storytelling their life experience
00:57:33.380 right exactly but yeah i i'm really excited to put out this record yeah and what do you hope people
00:57:41.420 take away i think i mean music is so magical when you actually sit down and think about it it's like
00:57:49.480 this like ancient practice of community building we've been doing it since the dawn of time like
00:57:58.400 we've been gathering around fires and singing together for different purposes in in our lives
00:58:05.360 and and i just i'm like so struck by that always especially when i'm playing live shows
00:58:10.300 just all these people are in one room together like making friends and like falling in love and
00:58:17.320 fighting maybe but they're having these very emotive experiences and my music is soundtracking that
00:58:23.940 and i just think that's so fucking cool to be able to soundtrack parts of people's lives
00:58:29.560 because my favorite albums soundtrack really big moments for me in my life and i will always remember
00:58:35.880 yeah like when i listen to certain songs i will always remember a certain moment in my life
00:58:40.460 um so to be able to soundtrack other people's lives in that way is like my greatest honor in my life
00:58:47.480 it's so cool and you're damn good at it too girl i love that about you thank you just to kind of like
00:58:52.740 wrap us do you have any advice for any like up-and-coming artists in whatever medium really because
00:58:59.000 you're a jack of all trades i feel like but just like anyone who maybe is feeling hesitant or afraid
00:59:04.300 especially with things like the internet because it makes people afraid to put themselves out there
00:59:08.440 especially their art so if you have any the word cringe really ruined i agree the internet i agree
00:59:14.460 to be cringe just to be free yes i i think as i get older i'm like i just don't give a fuck anymore
00:59:23.140 i'm gonna just be a little creature and i'm gonna and i'm gonna be cringe because i'm passionate
00:59:28.460 about things yeah i'm like i'm i'm like very dorky and i love i love my life and i love being
00:59:36.440 passionate about these things i love music and i love art yeah and i love costumes and glam and i
00:59:42.780 just fucking love it all and i'm and i'm so like happy to be alive right now so i don't give a fuck
00:59:48.280 about being cringe anymore i'm gonna crawl around on all fours and bark at bitches going forward i do not
00:59:55.100 care anymore that's what chapel told me she said she wants to run around and roll around in the
00:59:59.800 grass and bark at people and yell and scream love and i was like you better do it queen yeah you better
01:00:05.420 do that shit yeah yeah i love that wait this is a little this is a little sorry i have to tell this
01:00:12.020 story so i have a friend and she works at a nightclub and when she walks home at night so this is like
01:00:18.820 4 a.m 5 a.m she's walking home at night she has a pair of boots over her arm and when men try to
01:00:26.840 talk to her at night or she feels threatened in any way she puts the boots on her hands and she runs at
01:00:33.640 them on all fours she's a genius she's a genius tell her to trademark that that's the coolest thing
01:00:40.460 i've ever heard in my life she's a genius i love that yeah you gotta be nuts i wish i wish i could do
01:00:46.900 that online in some way like right like what's the online equivalent of me just putting boots on my
01:00:52.360 hands and running at all on all fours you just tag me okay i'll run all fours towards them nothing
01:00:57.540 scares them off faster than that i just see my big ass running at you on all fours yeah exactly
01:01:02.780 yeah my boots on my hands exactly you just tag me i'll be your all four on all fours yes i'll do
01:01:11.660 that for you girl thank you yeah of course thank you i forget what we were talking about yeah i just
01:01:16.340 want to be free i want to be cringe yeah your advice is to be cringe i want to be passionate
01:01:21.300 okay okay my advice yes my advice thank you adhd um no one knows you like you yeah and like no one
01:01:31.140 has the answer to success there's no one way to make it anywhere what the fuck is making it also
01:01:37.680 totally like i feel like the entertainment industry especially is so moorish i feel like i have to come
01:01:44.740 to a place in my life where i feel content and proud of myself and happy i need to celebrate my
01:01:48.880 wins i would say yeah no one knows you like you if anyone especially i i just feel like there's so
01:01:58.420 many egos yeah if someone tells you that there is one way to make it and you have to be doing these
01:02:03.640 certain things they are full of shit period they are so full of shit and i would run so far yeah i had
01:02:10.740 so many men tell me that i had to be doing certain things looking a certain way following these steps
01:02:17.460 to get here oh you want to be like this girl you have to do these things there's a path there's a way
01:02:22.480 to do things no there fucking isn't no especially not being an artist you're that literally commodifies
01:02:27.500 and takes all the the sucks the soul out of art is to conform it and commodify it to one path
01:02:33.180 exactly that's boring as fuck it's so boring there's always artists paving new ways
01:02:38.500 to a place of making it whatever that whatever that means yeah i feel like you can just write
01:02:45.580 your own story and yeah period listen to your own internal compass because no one knows you like
01:02:52.400 you amen sister you better tell them thank you i'm obsessed with you i think you're amazing i'm so
01:02:57.520 happy to be here same i'm so honored i squealed when i got told i was gonna be on the show i'm so excited
01:03:02.680 you and me both queen and now we're gonna go off into the sunset together and write fanfic
01:03:09.000 all fours yeah we're gonna run off on all fours together yeah and then someone get the boots
01:03:13.580 fly in the boots thank you so much for coming on the show i fucking love you
01:03:19.220 thank you so much thank you and everyone please make sure you go check out ash nico's new album
01:03:23.840 when it does drop on october 17th smoochies and for the maybe two people two straight people
01:03:29.780 obviously that don't know you or where to follow you where can everybody find you i'm ash nico
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