The Critical Compass Podcast - November 29, 2023


Beautiful Trouble - Antifa Tactics and Guidebook ｜ A Critical Compass Clip


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In this episode, we talk about the tactics and tactics of Antifa and how they operate. We discuss the tactics, theories, and strategies used by antifa to counter the counterprotest tactics used by counterprotester counterprotesters.

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00:00:00.000 yeah that was how my time on the counter protest side ended
00:00:08.500 so first of all like they didn't want to ask like oh why are you here what do you believe and why
00:00:18.940 there's no curiosity the presumption is we're right well first of all you didn't have a stance
00:00:26.900 but the fact that you filmed antifa i think that that's a giveaway because the only people that
00:00:34.180 want to document antifa is somebody who's on the other side um right right that is i think to them
00:00:41.120 the fact that antifa is covered means they are within the movement they are protecting the
00:00:47.600 movement and part of that protection is them being aggressive and having their identities covered
00:00:52.220 so if anything shows their identities then that compromises the members of antifa which are just
00:01:00.860 loosely anybody who just shows up to these things uh i know there's different chats or forums that
00:01:08.780 they're on and they do organize or they have call to actions that way um there is i think it's worth
00:01:16.580 noting maybe i'll bring this up um there there's there's books and resources for antifa to like
00:01:26.360 teaching kind of the tactics and strategies for disruption uh the book and website is called
00:01:34.760 uh it's called beautiful trouble i'm just going to pull it up here um because
00:01:41.200 we saw that in action and this this website actually
00:01:47.640 makes a better sense so well it sounds pretty good like oh you're empowering individuals to get
00:01:55.700 their voices heard etc and um but you start looking more into the theories and the tactics
00:02:01.460 uh this is where you get
00:02:03.620 you have things like well the real action is your target's reaction
00:02:09.900 um where they're trying to provoke responses
00:02:14.020 and they're they have historical not only the target the real action is the
00:02:17.900 enemy's reaction wow yes
00:02:20.960 so that's some that's a that's a very particular linguistic
00:02:25.920 choice there
00:02:26.640 well and and part of this principle
00:02:32.000 is that by them going to a protest and being antagonistic
00:02:37.960 if there's anybody gets shoved back they have footage of somebody shoving them and if
00:02:45.760 they're calling the protest if they're calling protesters fascists or alt-right or they're violent
00:02:52.840 or they're hateful any reaction from them defending themselves can now be used as an example
00:03:00.600 a proof that they are hateful or fascist
00:03:06.560 so they are
00:03:08.060 almost creating what they want
00:03:11.500 the because think of this as a theater
00:03:14.560 this is a public public sphere
00:03:16.500 and they are trying to
00:03:18.700 frame things in a certain way
00:03:20.600 uh the whole aspect of them being
00:03:22.840 anti-fascist is
00:03:24.420 because they're rising up to this
00:03:27.020 threat of fascism
00:03:28.640 which they think is
00:03:30.540 these parents protesting
00:03:32.560 like
00:03:33.060 so
00:03:33.920 yeah
00:03:34.600 they the demand for fascism right now is higher than the actual supply
00:03:38.860 of
00:03:40.400 of regular
00:03:41.360 like
00:03:42.000 the
00:03:42.560 these
00:03:42.920 these parents are not fascist by any means the definition
00:03:45.780 yeah
00:03:47.300 so there
00:03:48.780 there is
00:03:49.500 um
00:03:50.360 even if we go to this tactics page
00:03:52.600 you can see like
00:03:54.560 well they have the
00:03:55.740 creative disruption
00:03:56.860 they have
00:03:57.640 uh
00:03:58.780 culture jamming
00:03:59.640 they have noise
00:04:00.620 they have
00:04:01.740 you start like
00:04:03.480 really
00:04:04.140 looking into this
00:04:06.580 and you're like
00:04:07.080 well nothing
00:04:07.980 nothing seems
00:04:10.540 too out of line
00:04:12.360 of what we see at these protests
00:04:13.740 we see people
00:04:14.440 uh
00:04:15.520 using umbrellas
00:04:16.840 using signs
00:04:17.920 they're trying to like
00:04:18.600 block people
00:04:19.180 and they're trying to surround people
00:04:20.480 they are
00:04:21.120 it's a disruption
00:04:22.600 tactic
00:04:23.380 so
00:04:23.760 yeah they very
00:04:25.640 they very
00:04:26.160 like
00:04:26.640 it's almost like it happened
00:04:28.260 non-verbally
00:04:29.540 that they
00:04:30.100 all started to kind of
00:04:32.460 co
00:04:32.720 like coalesce
00:04:33.740 near the edge of the
00:04:34.820 the curb there
00:04:35.760 leaving me no space
00:04:37.620 my only choice was to back up
00:04:40.060 if I didn't want to push back against them
00:04:41.880 because
00:04:43.060 I mean
00:04:44.100 I knew
00:04:45.060 like you could hear me
00:04:46.100 you could hear my voice saying like
00:04:47.700 hey you know
00:04:48.320 get your hands off me 1.00
00:04:49.820 right
00:04:49.960 and they
00:04:50.240 and to their credit
00:04:51.660 they didn't
00:04:52.980 like
00:04:53.920 no one took a swing at me or anything
00:04:56.640 like no one did anything
00:04:57.840 outrageously violent
00:04:59.680 but just the
00:05:00.560 the action of them
00:05:01.520 kind of moving
00:05:02.420 as a
00:05:03.060 as a wave
00:05:03.700 sort of like that
00:05:04.600 leaving me the only place to go onto the road
00:05:07.140 where there was cars turning
00:05:08.200 it was very effective
00:05:10.760 yeah
00:05:11.860 well it was like a
00:05:12.980 it was a mob mentality
00:05:15.400 they had you surrounded
00:05:16.420 yeah
00:05:16.820 they were using signs
00:05:18.080 and other devices
00:05:18.900 to push you
00:05:19.880 instead of using their hands
00:05:21.180 for the most part
00:05:21.980 yeah
00:05:22.360 so that's a way of
00:05:23.600 saying
00:05:24.280 well I'm not touching you
00:05:25.340 I'm not touching you
00:05:26.180 it's just my umbrella
00:05:26.940 or it's just my sign
00:05:27.940 so they
00:05:29.400 they have some
00:05:30.500 buffer there
00:05:31.200 where they're like
00:05:31.760 well I never struck him
00:05:33.300 but
00:05:34.080 it's a
00:05:34.940 it's a form of
00:05:36.120 it is
00:05:37.340 antagonization
00:05:38.480 in a way
00:05:39.980 so
00:05:40.240 I think a few
00:05:41.800 I would
00:05:42.820 bet good money
00:05:44.300 that
00:05:44.580 the
00:05:45.300 people
00:05:46.440 who dress
00:05:47.800 head to toe
00:05:48.540 as Antifa
00:05:49.520 are well versed
00:05:50.860 in some of these theories
00:05:52.040 and or
00:05:52.720 in their chats
00:05:54.420 and or
00:05:55.060 whatever groups
00:05:56.600 that
00:05:56.960 kind of
00:05:57.860 I know it's
00:05:59.360 decentralized
00:06:01.100 but they do
00:06:02.000 kind of emerge
00:06:03.560 I bet they talk about
00:06:04.700 these things of like
00:06:05.440 okay if somebody comes up to you
00:06:06.660 what do you do
00:06:07.800 like how do you deal with
00:06:09.400 this situation
00:06:10.140 they've likely discussed
00:06:11.640 a few of these things
00:06:12.940 in beforehand
00:06:13.500 or you spread this information
00:06:15.060 kind of peer to peer
00:06:15.960 from that way
00:06:17.600 so these tactics
00:06:18.640 are not
00:06:19.280 hidden
00:06:20.120 they're out in the open
00:06:21.220 but it's interesting
00:06:23.020 that this
00:06:23.840 I would feel that
00:06:26.080 after knowing
00:06:27.560 how they operate
00:06:28.420 when I see
00:06:30.120 Antifa
00:06:30.640 at a
00:06:31.540 defending a certain
00:06:33.160 point of view
00:06:33.820 I immediately
00:06:34.880 question the validity
00:06:36.340 of a
00:06:38.160 counter-protest
00:06:39.300 if they show up
00:06:40.560 doesn't seem to correlate
00:06:42.160 with a good faith
00:06:43.000 protest
00:06:43.620 no I think
00:06:45.160 it's almost
00:06:45.760 as
00:06:47.380 maybe
00:06:48.680 superficial
00:06:50.240 as it seems
00:06:50.920 I think
00:06:51.440 it's pretty safe
00:06:52.420 to say
00:06:52.860 in a
00:06:54.220 protest
00:06:54.980 where there are
00:06:55.600 two sides
00:06:56.240 and one side
00:06:57.060 has
00:06:57.960 families
00:06:59.040 of all
00:07:00.680 shapes and sizes
00:07:01.600 and colors
00:07:02.380 and creeds
00:07:03.000 very calmly
00:07:04.780 you know
00:07:06.840 assembling
00:07:08.420 and gathering
00:07:09.040 together
00:07:09.680 when the other
00:07:11.080 side
00:07:11.420 has
00:07:11.880 guys
00:07:12.540 in
00:07:13.020 head to toe
00:07:13.800 black
00:07:15.420 covering their 0.98
00:07:16.100 faces
00:07:16.460 with helmets
00:07:17.940 and knuckle 0.92
00:07:19.000 duster gloves
00:07:19.660 on
00:07:20.060 these are
00:07:20.980 20 year olds
00:07:21.960 young
00:07:23.540 young people
00:07:24.260 yeah
00:07:24.560 acting aggressively
00:07:26.460 to people
00:07:27.260 who they view
00:07:27.780 as outsiders
00:07:28.280 I think
00:07:28.720 it's
00:07:29.000 I mean
00:07:29.320 it's
00:07:29.620 it doesn't
00:07:30.480 take
00:07:30.760 you know
00:07:32.260 a very
00:07:32.700 creative mind
00:07:35.040 to think
00:07:35.780 who the
00:07:36.280 probably
00:07:36.960 who the
00:07:37.480 the aggressors
00:07:38.520 or the bad
00:07:38.940 guys are
00:07:39.280 on that side
00:07:39.720 you