Is Transgenderism a Disorder？ ｜ A Critical Compass Clip
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Summary
In this episode, we discuss gender dysphoria, identity, and identity according to gender ideology, and the challenges of defining gender identity as a mental condition. We also discuss gender identity and identity as mental illness, and what it means to identify as the other gender.
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here's the issue though uh there are two trains of thought that coexist and they're used depending
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on how convenient it is in an argument and one of them is that um the gender dysphoria
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is real and must be treated with these with puberty blockers affirmation therapy and or
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surgery if somebody chooses the other train of thought is that this depends on how you define
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it and these definitions are not it's hard to ever actually narrow down a definition of what
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it means to identify as the other gender and those who basically say that you can identify as
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anything and your identity is real and you exist as that they they also say that well
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being transgender is not it's not a dysphoria it's not a mental condition so both you have a train of
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thought of yeah dysphoria is real but you also say dysphoria is not required for somebody to go in
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for surgery because you have people saying that well these people go in for extensive extensive
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psychological evaluation but at the same time it got i believe it got declass like d
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delisted i don't know what the actual term for i think the dsm five or six or whatever number they're
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on they have removed transgenderism as a mental condition oh okay so it's
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this is why you can see in conversations people get a little bit upset or triggered even mentioning
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the mental health side of it even though it is strongly correlated with with all these other
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mental health conditions that go alongside the fact that they're saying that it's not it means
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well that how do you navigate that yeah well because they'll they'll probably say that it's a
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um it can't be a mental condition or a you know any anything viewed as potentially uh like a like
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a weakness or a a um or any sort of negative connotation because they'll what they'll say
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i'm sure is that they've always been transgender they've always been they were always in the wrong
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body and you might even hear people love to do this who are proponents of gender ideology they
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love to talk out of both sides of their mouth and say things like um we you know we always knew
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little timmy was actually a girl because when when timmy was young um she always liked to play with
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uh you know girls toys always liked timmy always liked to play with dolls and and makeup and stuff so
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when when timmy was 12 we transitioned him to a her you know that's because we always knew
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but then at the same at the same time they'll say if a little girl a biological girl plays with the
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dolls and the makeup and and the other traditionally stereotypically girls things that was because
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society conditioned her to like those things is that the patriarchy and action causing the girls to
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play with dolls the childhood patriarchy and action yeah so so it i don't know to me that seems
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like a contradiction it feels it feels like it has to be one or the other um but if you
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but the point is if you view it that way then what you're actually doing is you're viewing uh
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the the somebody's gender as equivalent to maybe something like the soul or some other sort of um
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metaphysical spiritual um conception of what it means to be a person so so in that case how can it be a
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dysphoria or how can it be uh you know anything related to a uh a treatable mental condition if it's a
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treatable mental condition that that then that means it can't be your identity i suppose yeah and
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any idea of a gendered soul is unfalsifiable and you can't prove or disprove it's based on how somebody
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feels so you touched on a couple key points of the difference between when you define this is it
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a way that you feel is it a way that you act is it a like what what does it mean to identify
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me as a biological man if i identify as a woman well what does that actually mean um am i
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doing the things that women do am i presenting as a woman so these secondary sex characteristics
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um when i say i feel like a woman well what is that feeling are we talking about the big five
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personality traits am i low on assertiveness and do do i'm look inward and say that my personality
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more resembles these traditionally feminine if we observe the population we can observe like
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masculine and feminine in quotes like traits they're just more commonly represented in males
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versus females so yeah our whole notion of what it means to look or feel or even behave as a woman is
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still tied to these biological averages throughout the population and i've yet to get a really good
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definition um you'll ask activists or just somebody who has bought into this and you start going
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through this and at some point they're just going to say well they are a woman because they feel like
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a woman yeah a woman is whoever whoever identifies as a woman right yeah they can't they can't make the
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definition not contain the word woman basically so it becomes self-referential and uh and uh begs the
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question basically yeah circular definitions don't really give you anything to you don't gain anything
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more from that definition you still are no closer to understanding what a woman is if the definition
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of a woman is the identity of a woman yeah like what characteristics yeah are under there and then
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what characteristics and what what of those characteristics are not just a stereotype yeah
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so are we going backwards if we're just tying these ideas of these identity like the identity of woman to
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stereotypes are we further limiting our ideas of what women should do or the way women are