The Critical Compass Podcast - February 10, 2024


Is Transgenderism a Disorder？ ｜ A Critical Compass Clip

Gaza in the Western Political Landscape ｜ A Critical Compass Discussion What is Gender？ ｜ A Critical Compass Clip

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Length

7 minutes

Words per minute

140.52

Word count

1,020

Sentence count

1

Harmful content

Misogyny

7

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Hate speech

4

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Summary

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In this episode, we discuss gender dysphoria, identity, and identity according to gender ideology, and the challenges of defining gender identity as a mental condition. We also discuss gender identity and identity as mental illness, and what it means to identify as the other gender.

Transcript

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00:00:00.000 here's the issue though uh there are two trains of thought that coexist and they're used depending
00:00:10.500 on how convenient it is in an argument and one of them is that um the gender dysphoria
00:00:20.480 is real and must be treated with these with puberty blockers affirmation therapy and or
00:00:28.180 surgery if somebody chooses the other train of thought is that this depends on how you define
00:00:35.980 it and these definitions are not it's hard to ever actually narrow down a definition of what
00:00:41.840 it means to identify as the other gender and those who basically say that you can identify as
00:00:53.740 anything and your identity is real and you exist as that they they also say that well
00:01:01.780 being transgender is not it's not a dysphoria it's not a mental condition so both you have a train of 0.75
00:01:11.240 thought of yeah dysphoria is real but you also say dysphoria is not required for somebody to go in
00:01:17.140 for surgery because you have people saying that well these people go in for extensive extensive
00:01:23.080 psychological evaluation but at the same time it got i believe it got declass like d
00:01:30.040 delisted i don't know what the actual term for i think the dsm five or six or whatever number they're
00:01:36.800 on they have removed transgenderism as a mental condition oh okay so it's 0.97
00:01:47.140 this is why you can see in conversations people get a little bit upset or triggered even mentioning
00:01:54.600 the mental health side of it even though it is strongly correlated with with all these other
00:02:02.720 mental health conditions that go alongside the fact that they're saying that it's not it means
00:02:10.200 well that how do you navigate that yeah well because they'll they'll probably say that it's a
00:02:16.400 um it can't be a mental condition or a you know any anything viewed as potentially uh like a like
00:02:23.040 a weakness or a a um or any sort of negative connotation because they'll what they'll say
00:02:29.540 i'm sure is that they've always been transgender they've always been they were always in the wrong 1.00
00:02:36.200 body and you might even hear people love to do this who are proponents of gender ideology they 0.56
00:02:42.260 love to talk out of both sides of their mouth and say things like um we you know we always knew
00:02:48.840 little timmy was actually a girl because when when timmy was young um she always liked to play with
00:02:58.260 uh you know girls toys always liked timmy always liked to play with dolls and and makeup and stuff so
00:03:04.300 when when timmy was 12 we transitioned him to a her you know that's because we always knew
00:03:10.320 but then at the same at the same time they'll say if a little girl a biological girl plays with the
00:03:17.540 dolls and the makeup and and the other traditionally stereotypically girls things that was because 1.00
00:03:22.760 society conditioned her to like those things is that the patriarchy and action causing the girls to 1.00
00:03:28.780 play with dolls the childhood patriarchy and action yeah so so it i don't know to me that seems
00:03:34.120 like a contradiction it feels it feels like it has to be one or the other um but if you
00:03:39.660 but the point is if you view it that way then what you're actually doing is you're viewing uh
00:03:46.220 the the somebody's gender as equivalent to maybe something like the soul or some other sort of um
00:03:53.260 metaphysical spiritual um conception of what it means to be a person so so in that case how can it be a
00:04:02.960 dysphoria or how can it be uh you know anything related to a uh a treatable mental condition if it's a
00:04:10.580 treatable mental condition that that then that means it can't be your identity i suppose yeah and
00:04:17.360 any idea of a gendered soul is unfalsifiable and you can't prove or disprove it's based on how somebody
00:04:25.900 feels so you touched on a couple key points of the difference between when you define this is it
00:04:35.780 a way that you feel is it a way that you act is it a like what what does it mean to identify
00:04:45.120 me as a biological man if i identify as a woman well what does that actually mean um am i
00:04:55.840 doing the things that women do am i presenting as a woman so these secondary sex characteristics 0.98
00:05:03.580 um when i say i feel like a woman well what is that feeling are we talking about the big five
00:05:10.000 personality traits am i low on assertiveness and do do i'm look inward and say that my personality
00:05:20.260 more resembles these traditionally feminine if we observe the population we can observe like 0.94
00:05:26.760 masculine and feminine in quotes like traits they're just more commonly represented in males
00:05:32.260 versus females so yeah our whole notion of what it means to look or feel or even behave as a woman is
00:05:41.160 still tied to these biological averages throughout the population and i've yet to get a really good
00:05:49.680 definition um you'll ask activists or just somebody who has bought into this and you start going
00:05:58.800 through this and at some point they're just going to say well they are a woman because they feel like
00:06:02.860 a woman yeah a woman is whoever whoever identifies as a woman right yeah they can't they can't make the 0.98
00:06:10.220 definition not contain the word woman basically so it becomes self-referential and uh and uh begs the
00:06:18.440 question basically yeah circular definitions don't really give you anything to you don't gain anything
00:06:26.260 more from that definition you still are no closer to understanding what a woman is if the definition
00:06:33.560 of a woman is the identity of a woman yeah like what characteristics yeah are under there and then
00:06:41.380 what characteristics and what what of those characteristics are not just a stereotype yeah
00:06:47.060 so are we going backwards if we're just tying these ideas of these identity like the identity of woman to
00:06:54.820 stereotypes are we further limiting our ideas of what women should do or the way women are 0.66
00:07:01.540 based on reinforcing these older stereotypes
00:07:06.340 so
00:07:11.540 so