The Culture War - Tim Pool - May 07, 2025


Antifa BLASTED With MACE After Attacking Journalists, UW Riots OUT OF CONTROL


Episode Stats

Length

37 minutes

Words per Minute

199.25801

Word Count

7,394

Sentence Count

567

Misogynist Sentences

7

Hate Speech Sentences

13


Summary

Join us as we play a clip of Antifa attacking two journalists, Katie Davis-Court and Cam Higby, and hear their accounts of the events that took place. We are also joined by a special guest to talk about the recent events in the Pacific Northwest.


Transcript

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00:00:54.900 We will be joined by Cam Higme in just a moment.
00:00:57.560 But I want to get started playing this clip for you guys.
00:01:00.980 Many of you may have already seen it.
00:01:02.480 We did play it in a previous segment.
00:01:04.140 This is Antifa attacking two journalists, Katie Davis-Court and Cam Higby.
00:01:08.940 And I want to show you exactly what's going down in the Pacific Northwest.
00:01:12.320 Let me play that video.
00:01:13.480 Scared?
00:01:14.660 Why are you scared?
00:01:16.380 Uh-oh.
00:01:16.780 I'm just walking.
00:01:18.420 Stop.
00:01:24.820 Don't touch me.
00:01:25.660 You guys liked it.
00:01:27.180 Thank you.
00:01:27.940 You guys are all I fucking knew.
00:01:29.980 Run.
00:01:31.480 Run.
00:01:32.480 Run, run, run.
00:01:33.700 Mace.
00:01:34.000 And there you can see, it looks like we have in this video, I believe they say Cam Higby
00:01:41.840 deploying mace in an act of self-defense as Antifa had robbed, attacked and charged at
00:01:47.960 these individuals.
00:01:49.100 What we've seen in the past week or so, once again, Antifa riots and violence escalating
00:01:55.660 over two big issues, Riley Gaines, who made an appearance protesting male competitors in
00:02:01.540 women's sports and anti-Israel protesters taking over buildings.
00:02:07.400 And I'll say in an effort to do what, I honestly don't know.
00:02:12.420 But we do have joining us right now Cam Higby, who was on the ground and actually was attacked
00:02:19.500 by these Antifa individuals.
00:02:22.440 So we'll be pulling him in right now.
00:02:25.180 Let me make sure I get it all set up.
00:02:27.420 Cam, can you hear me?
00:02:29.360 I can hear you loud and clear.
00:02:30.700 How's it going?
00:02:31.760 You're alive.
00:02:32.460 Pretty good.
00:02:33.300 So I just watched that video where you guys got attacked by Antifa and you deployed mace.
00:02:38.600 Yeah.
00:02:39.320 Yeah.
00:02:39.740 So they had been following elderly couples that were leaving that Riley Gaines event pretty
00:02:46.420 much from the point people started trickling out.
00:02:49.320 You know, some people were leaving early and it was like old women with canes and just
00:02:54.380 like extremely old couples of people.
00:02:57.320 The elderly woman with a cane specifically was alone following them to their car saying
00:03:01.820 they want that.
00:03:02.780 I don't know what I can say on here, but it's pretty bad stuff, like very graphic descriptions
00:03:07.140 of how they wish they were dead or wish they got killed.
00:03:09.380 And after one of them, they, uh, they discovered that Katie Davis court was a journalist or they
00:03:16.180 had a suspicion or something.
00:03:17.000 They chased her and then, um, everything was fine again.
00:03:20.200 And then the police didn't go with them for another person they followed.
00:03:24.320 And at the end of that, they chased her again and got super close and I sprayed him.
00:03:28.260 So, so this, this is, uh, obviously over the past, how many days has it been going on on
00:03:32.800 now with like different protests where Antifa is showing up and getting violent?
00:03:37.320 The only two that I've been to recently, I don't know if there's been, um, any prior, uh,
00:03:43.040 I was out of town for a couple of days.
00:03:44.540 So, um, I've been to two recently where they took over this building and then this one today,
00:03:49.820 but I'm sure there's been more.
00:03:51.120 I mean, there's protests going on all the time here.
00:03:52.740 Yeah, absolutely.
00:03:53.700 There was, I believe there was some in Portland and now in, in Seattle.
00:03:57.500 So you guys was in Portland.
00:03:59.260 What was that?
00:04:00.180 Riley was in Portland when those protests were going on too.
00:04:02.740 Right, right, right.
00:04:03.580 And then I think, uh, she, she, she spoke in Portland and then she spoke in, in, in
00:04:07.640 Washington, right?
00:04:08.700 Yep.
00:04:09.280 Not, not, not too far away, I suppose.
00:04:11.060 So you, you, uh, and Katie, you embedded in Antifa, you like dressed up like them.
00:04:15.880 Yeah.
00:04:16.220 Yeah.
00:04:16.420 We were in full black block.
00:04:17.880 Um, pretty much indistinguishable.
00:04:19.380 It was funny.
00:04:19.640 Actually, at one point, like John Cho was coming up and he's like,
00:04:22.600 look at this guy.
00:04:25.500 He didn't know it was you.
00:04:26.820 Yeah.
00:04:27.020 I texted him.
00:04:27.540 I was like, Hey, that was me.
00:04:28.900 Oh, wow.
00:04:29.860 But did he put that video out?
00:04:31.240 It worked.
00:04:32.340 It worked.
00:04:33.160 Uh, how did they, how did they, how did these guys figure out that you weren't
00:04:36.360 actually Antifa?
00:04:37.840 I'm not sure.
00:04:38.720 They never figured me out until I sprayed them, but somehow I think they just
00:04:42.220 started like, I think they got suspicious of Katie, um, because she was
00:04:45.780 filming and then they just, the big one just sprinted at her and then they took her
00:04:50.740 running from him as she's not one of us.
00:04:53.720 And, um, I talked to them afterwards, uh, and they were like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:04:59.200 They were like, cause I mean, we were with them the whole time and they were
00:05:02.460 like, I was like, what happened?
00:05:03.520 And the big guy was like, I think she's filming for the other side.
00:05:06.420 And I was like, oh, wow.
00:05:08.060 I should go talk to her.
00:05:09.580 And he goes, are you, are you with this side?
00:05:11.960 And I was like, what, this side of the street or this side of the protest?
00:05:14.260 And he's like, this side of the protest.
00:05:16.000 And I was like, yeah, of course, of course I'm with this side of the protest.
00:05:18.420 So I went over and talked to Katie and I was like, oh yeah, whatever.
00:05:21.440 And then, you know, yeah, she's with us, whatever.
00:05:23.340 And then they chased her again.
00:05:24.480 And that's when I sprayed them.
00:05:24.940 Oh, interesting.
00:05:26.100 So, uh, do you want to break down what was going on?
00:05:28.540 How this started?
00:05:29.540 There was obviously the occupation of that engineering building, which caused, they're
00:05:33.860 saying right now, a million dollars in damages, but that's as an early estimate.
00:05:38.460 So you were there, you were embedded for that.
00:05:40.200 Like, how did that, how did that happen?
00:05:41.580 And why didn't the police, like, how, how does this come to be where the police don't
00:05:44.900 stop it?
00:05:46.220 Yeah.
00:05:46.460 I mean, well, at first there was no protest or no police presence.
00:05:49.980 So it's, it's kind of like, I mean, in these places, like, you know, I've done a lot of
00:05:54.140 journalism in LA and now a lot in Seattle and in these cities, the police just don't
00:06:00.360 really do anything about base level property damage.
00:06:04.000 They don't really care.
00:06:04.760 So they show up, they take over the building, much like what happened at UCLA.
00:06:08.880 And, um, they claim that it's funded by Boeing.
00:06:11.740 Um, I think that's true to some degree.
00:06:13.640 It's the interdisciplinary engineering building.
00:06:15.760 So they take it over, they occupy it and it's kind of in a U shape.
00:06:18.940 So, um, they have a bunch of people inside the building that are occupying, and then they
00:06:22.240 have even more people outside the building in the inner part of this U shape that the building
00:06:27.140 forms.
00:06:27.560 It was like a staircase that goes down.
00:06:28.940 Um, so they're down in there and, um, they're kind of doing like vigils for Hassan Nasrallah
00:06:34.040 and Ishmael Haneah, Hamas and Hezbollah terrorists and, uh, whatever.
00:06:38.100 And then, but then there's Antifa up on the street and they're moving bike racks and statues
00:06:42.620 and all kinds of stuff from around the campus to block the streets.
00:06:45.100 At one point they had a long line of buses going both ways because it forms kind of a T
00:06:49.540 shape in the road.
00:06:50.760 And so they're blocking all these buses.
00:06:52.240 They had some interfights about whether or not they should be blocking the working class on
00:06:56.680 these buses, but ultimately it was decided that, uh, who cares they're blocking the police.
00:07:01.180 So, um, the police formed up in an alley on the opposite side of the street where they
00:07:06.140 had another barrier, which consisted of some dumped, uh, tipped over dumpsters, some bike
00:07:10.820 racks with lime scooters and electric bikes.
00:07:14.280 Um, you know, just thrown around and they lit that on fire when the police showed up in the
00:07:18.580 alley to separate them from the police.
00:07:20.920 And it, it unmitigated, this fire went on for 45 minutes.
00:07:24.680 Wait, wait, wait, wait, real quick.
00:07:26.560 The, the lime scooters, they set the dumpster on fire and the lime scooters were like in
00:07:33.000 the pile of crap.
00:07:33.980 Those things have, those things have massive lithium ion batteries.
00:07:36.960 Yeah.
00:07:37.380 Yeah.
00:07:37.780 And there's videos.
00:07:38.580 I posted some videos students took on my Twitter.
00:07:41.040 They were exploding like every five minutes.
00:07:43.020 You just hear a huge bang.
00:07:45.060 Wow.
00:07:45.500 Oh yeah.
00:07:46.520 So, but, but, but again, like why, why aren't the police coming in and just shutting this
00:07:51.540 stuff down?
00:07:52.320 It's a great question.
00:07:53.520 I think they should have done it as soon as they occupied the building, but they didn't.
00:07:56.500 And so they gave a dispersal order 10 21, everybody better be out of here.
00:08:00.280 You're subject to arrest that now there's a huge fire in between them and the protesters.
00:08:04.120 So that 10 21 turned into like a 10 45.
00:08:06.740 And so they ended up coming up, they formed a police line around the building.
00:08:10.800 They told everybody you're, you're fine to peacefully protest outside the building, even though
00:08:14.620 they're like, you know, getting in the police's faces prior to the police coming up, actually
00:08:18.440 though, they, somebody yelled out, does anybody have projectiles?
00:08:21.660 And then they started gathering stones up.
00:08:23.960 So there are all these piles of rocks in the roads.
00:08:26.420 There was bigger rocks, like maybe this size that were thrown into the road to like obscure
00:08:31.900 vehicles.
00:08:32.280 And then there were smaller rocks, you know, like this piles of them everywhere that were
00:08:36.640 meant to be thrown at the police.
00:08:38.960 Did these people have a coherent demand?
00:08:41.660 Um, divest.
00:08:44.620 Yeah, it was, it was, uh, I think with the buses, it was, um, you know, this would just
00:08:51.760 be easy if they would just divest and the easiest way to get the buses through would just be to
00:08:55.100 divest.
00:08:55.580 And it's like, Oh my God, it's so silly.
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00:09:24.600 Was it like two different groups though was because, you know, Antifa tends to be this
00:09:29.660 immersive group of general leftist causes, but then we're hearing that, you know, this
00:09:34.280 and I want to draw the distinction.
00:09:35.640 There's two different pro actually there's like three or four different protests, but
00:09:38.780 here at UW, there was the Riley Gaines.
00:09:41.200 That was the transgender one.
00:09:42.680 This one we're talking about right now was the, the Israel Boeing divest, whatever.
00:09:46.640 But did it seem like there were two distinct groups of ideology among the protesters?
00:09:52.120 Ideologies?
00:09:52.340 I wouldn't say distinct, but there was definitely like infighting.
00:09:55.080 Like we had the bus infighting and that's like, um, you, you see that there's kind of
00:09:59.280 two factions or several factions of people there.
00:10:01.480 And these leftist protests I've observed kind of just become a conglomerate.
00:10:05.500 Like you have the trans stuff and the forever you'll see trans stuff at leftist protests.
00:10:09.300 Now there's the, the Gaza stuff forever.
00:10:11.760 Now you'll see Palestinian flags at leftist protests.
00:10:13.780 And there was another incident where they were kind of infighting yesterday, um, the
00:10:18.580 same day that the spray was deployed where this dude who I think he's actually tabled
00:10:23.940 with me at UW where he, he got on the mic and he said, we need to show the right wing
00:10:29.460 that we're not violent.
00:10:30.620 We can't give them what they want.
00:10:32.040 They want us to be violent, whatever.
00:10:33.700 And the Antifa crowd on the, on the, that was flanking the protest started yelling.
00:10:38.420 They started the violence.
00:10:39.940 We need to be violent.
00:10:41.020 It's, it's not business as usual, blah, blah, blah, whatever.
00:10:43.500 You know, the usual, well, they're basically lumping the right there.
00:10:48.260 They're, they're, this is the funniest thing about what the left does.
00:10:50.940 Now I call them the left because as we're pointing out here, it is a group of protesters
00:10:55.860 and their causes change, right?
00:10:58.380 When they had the anti-Israel protests at Columbia, New York, they had the people's tent.
00:11:04.840 They had a bunch of socialist causes aligned with anti-Israel.
00:11:10.280 And these are two distinct causes, but they lump them all together.
00:11:13.420 They protest together.
00:11:14.420 They riot together.
00:11:15.060 And they actually say, you know, respect the diversity of tactics.
00:11:19.380 Whereas on the right, the left will claim that neo-Nazis and libertarians are the same
00:11:24.140 faction.
00:11:25.220 Or my favorite meme recently was, um, it was a meme about Donald Trump funding Israel.
00:11:30.800 And I don't know if you saw this, Hitler, like the ghost of Hitler was patting Trump on the
00:11:35.820 back, praising him for Trump sending weapons to Israel.
00:11:39.460 And the responses were like, I think Kyle Kalinske posted, people are like, do you know anything
00:11:45.560 about what that guy was trying to do?
00:11:47.580 Because I'm not sure he would praise someone giving billions of dollars to a sovereign Jewish
00:11:51.460 state.
00:11:52.640 But that's why when they lump the right in as one group, it makes no sense.
00:11:57.300 But when we say the left, there is a general large amorphous blob where you have Antifa
00:12:03.200 adopting whatever cause it might be, and then aligning themselves with whatever is in the
00:12:08.340 news at this, at this moment.
00:12:10.160 So anyway, I mean, I'm ranting right now, but you know, uh, moving on to, or actually I'm
00:12:16.180 curious if there's anything you wanted to add before we move on to the next protest, like
00:12:19.280 anything you saw that people should know about.
00:12:21.320 Um, I mean, yeah, we went over the fires.
00:12:26.780 It's just the stuff, the stuff that they're chanting outside of the violence and the, like
00:12:30.720 having to deploy the, the spray, the stuff they're chanting.
00:12:34.560 I don't know.
00:12:34.780 What, what can I, can I repeat what they said?
00:12:36.920 Or is that going to be like a TOS thing?
00:12:38.940 Yeah.
00:12:39.160 I don't know, actually.
00:12:40.100 Cause I pulled some of it up and I'm like, I don't, I don't want to read this.
00:12:42.520 They were calling for death and murder.
00:12:44.160 Yeah.
00:12:44.580 Yeah.
00:12:44.780 And threatening other people.
00:12:46.000 In very graphic ways.
00:12:47.460 Yeah.
00:12:47.660 And it's like, you see what the, it's like, it's funny.
00:12:51.600 I saw, um, a post that Andy reposted either something that Katie or I filmed and it was
00:12:58.420 like the most vile thing you could say to a person.
00:13:01.160 And then it's like, you just see the preview and the camera pans over and it's like this
00:13:04.580 little old lady, like hunching over with a cane.
00:13:07.140 And it's like, Oh my God.
00:13:08.840 It's like, I saw it in person and I'm still, I'm still shocked by it.
00:13:11.860 And that's terrible.
00:13:13.040 That's Andy.
00:13:13.480 No, you're saying who reposed that.
00:13:15.080 Yeah.
00:13:15.260 I noticed you have that, that dumpster behind you.
00:13:19.000 Hmm.
00:13:19.940 Yeah.
00:13:20.300 This is my souvenir.
00:13:21.720 I took, I took the other night.
00:13:23.460 It's a, it's, it's an Antifa garbage shield.
00:13:26.880 Yep.
00:13:27.500 Yep.
00:13:28.140 So, uh, how did you get that?
00:13:31.340 Um, well, I mean, they were just laying out in the street and, uh, you know, it seemed
00:13:36.120 there was a group that was kind of standing around them and I was getting ready to leave.
00:13:40.320 And so I just grabbed it.
00:13:42.500 It took two of them.
00:13:43.440 Um, it's crazy to me that the police allow these people to show up with these, these
00:13:49.100 tools and these weapons.
00:13:50.760 I mean, I get, you can grab a rock off the street, but they're there.
00:13:53.740 This shows premeditation.
00:13:55.260 It shows conspiracy to commit a crime.
00:13:57.500 It, it, it, it seems to me that in the Pacific Northwest, they want and encourage it.
00:14:02.140 And then one of the stories from post-millennial was that one of the people arrested at this
00:14:06.420 protest was a public defender.
00:14:09.260 What do I think?
00:14:10.800 I think Ari Hoffman also reported that one of them was a nurse too, at a like local hospital
00:14:15.940 or clinic or something.
00:14:17.180 It's just, I don't know.
00:14:19.380 And there's older people there.
00:14:20.580 Like these people are not all students.
00:14:22.060 And what's really jarring to, to your point about the police is there were several points
00:14:26.720 the other night where this police line was formed around the interdisciplinary engineering
00:14:30.980 building.
00:14:31.620 And the police were like actively saying, you're committing a crime right now.
00:14:35.180 If you keep doing it, we're going to arrest you.
00:14:36.840 And it's like, they keep doing it.
00:14:38.360 And it's like, if you keep doing it, we're going to arrest you.
00:14:40.220 And they just keep doing it.
00:14:41.280 And there's no arrests made.
00:14:42.560 And it's really not the police's fault.
00:14:44.540 Like it's not their fault.
00:14:45.500 It's, it's the fault of the broken city with a broken system full of prosecutors who will
00:14:49.760 not prosecute people who are committing violence in the name of things they believe in.
00:14:54.080 Well, I gotta be honest.
00:14:55.280 I mean, uh, I don't have sympathy for these people, you know, they, they vote for it.
00:14:59.460 I don't, do you live up there?
00:15:01.060 Yeah.
00:15:01.640 Oh man.
00:15:02.200 Why?
00:15:04.040 Yeah.
00:15:04.520 Just, uh, like my girlfriend has a job up here and I mean, it is, it is kind of convenient
00:15:08.920 that I can go report on this stuff, but it's like, you know, you go,
00:15:12.560 you go out and it's like this, the situation that happened where they're like chasing us
00:15:16.020 down and I have to deploy pepper spray.
00:15:18.300 It's like, that's scary.
00:15:20.160 First of all, because it's like, I don't know if they have a knife.
00:15:23.060 I don't know if they have a gun.
00:15:23.980 I don't know what they have.
00:15:24.940 They could, they could do some serious harm to me or to Katie, who is like four times smaller
00:15:30.580 than this giant Antifa gorilla who's chasing us.
00:15:34.640 And then it's like, if I defend myself, am I going to go to jail?
00:15:38.460 Yeah.
00:15:38.960 Yep.
00:15:39.660 So then what was it?
00:15:40.820 The next day is when the Riley Gaines thing happened.
00:15:43.780 Yeah.
00:15:44.200 The next, the next day was, it was the Riley Gaines thing.
00:15:46.880 I, I, I'm actually surprised that it wasn't worse yesterday because it kind of felt like
00:15:51.420 the taking over the building was a warmup for the Antifa people and they were definitely
00:15:56.780 there and they were definitely stirring some stuff up, but, um, it kind of just dispersed
00:16:01.940 after the pepper spray thing.
00:16:04.380 Um, I, I, I guess it's probably because Riley Gaines was speaking during the day.
00:16:08.100 Yeah.
00:16:08.600 Right.
00:16:08.720 Probably.
00:16:09.400 So yeah, they, they come out at night.
00:16:11.080 That's when they're emboldened.
00:16:12.380 But, uh, so, so what went down there?
00:16:14.540 I mean, did anything significant happen?
00:16:16.420 I know that they were reportedly throwing feces.
00:16:18.160 Yeah, there was, there was one person that was like waving a trans flag everywhere.
00:16:22.380 And it's, it's funny too, because the person came up and I have no idea what gender this
00:16:27.740 person was, what would sex or anything, but came up through, uh, through, um, a bag of
00:16:32.840 some kind of feces at the people who were guarding the door for the turning point event.
00:16:37.460 And this is, by the way, the police have a line in front of these people.
00:16:40.860 So through, through the bag poop past the, the, um, the people, I didn't, I saw this,
00:16:46.180 but I didn't know what it was until I saw Katie's reporting.
00:16:48.940 And, um, so that happens.
00:16:50.940 And then this person is still coming up and like waving the trans flag and she's, he,
00:16:55.560 she, whatever is like waving it in front of the police, like right in their faces.
00:16:59.100 And one of the cops snatched the flag and was like, you're not, this is like, you're
00:17:02.500 using this as a weapon.
00:17:03.240 You're not allowed to have this.
00:17:03.960 And then they gave it back like immediately.
00:17:07.560 It was like, they're like, that is just, that is confiscation of personal property.
00:17:11.220 You just stole that, whatever.
00:17:12.280 And immediately the police just give it back.
00:17:13.920 I'm like part of, part of me wants to think that what's actually going on is like the RoboCop
00:17:17.800 narrative where they're, they're allowing Antifa to do this because it lowers property
00:17:22.120 values so that they can start snatching up properties for the public for their commie
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00:18:21.300 Could be.
00:18:22.800 But I don't know.
00:18:23.540 I don't, I, I guess the argument is they don't want to make arrests of Antifa because
00:18:27.800 it'll generate viral videos, which will exacerbate the riots and the protests.
00:18:31.380 But, you know, I don't, I don't believe that because they're as bad as they've been and
00:18:34.740 they're getting worse.
00:18:35.640 Yeah.
00:18:36.100 And this, and the sad part is like, we need to, we need federal law that, that bans protesting
00:18:41.400 with masks because these people also stole my camera and they, they left with it.
00:18:47.540 And now I lost my footage for the entire day and $400 worth of equipment.
00:18:52.580 It was just a GoPro.
00:18:53.800 So it wasn't like a thousand dollar camera or anything, but it's just, I don't have,
00:18:57.300 now I don't have the footage.
00:18:58.360 I don't have the camera.
00:18:59.680 I don't have the, the mount for the camera that mounts it to my chest.
00:19:03.680 And I've also, I got bear sprayed in LA and the person was wearing a mask and I have
00:19:07.820 no way of identifying who this person was to sue them or to bring any kind of legal
00:19:12.400 repercussions against them because I have the body camera footage.
00:19:15.460 They're doing it clear as day, but their face is fully covered and there's no way to identify
00:19:19.080 them.
00:19:19.220 They, they tried this in DC during Trump's first inauguration in 2017, you had probably
00:19:24.340 a thousand people in black block.
00:19:26.340 You know, they're all wearing masks and hoodies and sunglasses.
00:19:29.220 So they go there with the intent to obfuscate the crimes of their comrades.
00:19:34.460 And then what happens is the police couldn't identify any single individual.
00:19:38.940 So they arrested everyone.
00:19:40.980 They put 230 or so people charged them, put them through trial and charged them with conspiracy
00:19:48.560 because they knew they couldn't get any one individual because they're wearing masks.
00:19:52.880 The court not only dismissed it, but the Antifa people sued this, sued the government,
00:19:59.520 the federal government, city of DC and won a million bucks.
00:20:02.660 That, how do you function when, when these people are able to do these things every day?
00:20:10.120 So I would say to your mask point, people should be allowed to wear masks.
00:20:14.820 People should be allowed to wear masks at a protest, but if you commit a crime, it should
00:20:19.320 aggravate that crime.
00:20:20.800 So if a protest becomes a riot and you're wearing a mask and now you're breaking the law, it should
00:20:25.320 be a way more serious penalty.
00:20:26.800 I think the challenge is like, sometimes you wear a winter, a winter face mask.
00:20:31.440 You can't make that illegal.
00:20:32.220 You know, the reason why Antifa ends up winning is because the courts were like, look, you
00:20:38.240 can't charge someone with conspiracy because they happen to be wearing a black hoodie.
00:20:41.280 You'll end up arresting some random person.
00:20:44.720 It's a good point.
00:20:45.900 But who knows?
00:20:46.520 I mean, I will ask you this though.
00:20:47.620 Trump is now saying that they're going to put UW under review following the occupation of
00:20:52.240 this building, but Trump, the Trump admin in the first term didn't go after these universities
00:20:57.660 when Antifa was firebombing buildings and protesting for Black Lives Matter.
00:21:02.340 It seems now that the only reason the Trump admin is going after these universities is because
00:21:06.460 they're engaged in anti-Semitic behavior targeting Jewish students, or there are students being
00:21:11.960 deported because they're critical of Israel.
00:21:14.400 I'm curious your thoughts on that.
00:21:15.520 Yeah, I mean, I don't, I don't recall exactly what happened back in 2020 so long ago, but
00:21:22.580 I don't, I don't think it is necessarily because of that.
00:21:25.960 I think Trump is just cracking down on everything now and doesn't have any fears because he doesn't
00:21:31.000 have to run for reelection again.
00:21:32.620 But like today, or not today, yesterday, it wasn't, wasn't about anything related to Israel
00:21:38.040 or anything like that.
00:21:38.680 It was, it was Riley Gaines thing and, you know, they're doing the same stuff.
00:21:41.860 So I don't, I don't think that that's really the case because they're protesting lots of
00:21:45.840 stuff, but UW is a ripe place to crack down on.
00:21:49.640 I mean, I table at UW virtually every week and they come up to me and they steal my hat,
00:21:55.200 my MAGA hat off my head.
00:21:56.480 They rip my signs off my table.
00:21:58.100 They try to steal my camera.
00:21:59.800 They turn my camera off while I'm recording.
00:22:01.760 It's just like, it is, it is a, a campus full of absolute degenerate miscreants that don't
00:22:08.820 understand the rule of law because there is no rule of law in Seattle, Washington.
00:22:13.280 Your laws are only as good as the mechanism that enforces them.
00:22:16.360 And if you don't enforce the laws, they don't exist.
00:22:18.540 I think I'd say they do understand the rule of law very well.
00:22:22.340 Why is that?
00:22:23.240 Because the state, they know the state's not going to enforce it so they can get away with
00:22:26.320 these things.
00:22:27.120 Sure.
00:22:27.420 You know, if, if, if the police were going to arrest them and they were doing it, I'd
00:22:30.900 say that they must not understand or they don't care.
00:22:32.880 But I think one of the biggest issues we've seen with Portland and Seattle, you had the
00:22:38.120 Chaz chop, whatever they called it.
00:22:41.260 They didn't want to call it the, the Chaz because autonomous, because like a legal thing
00:22:44.400 or something like that, but people were killed.
00:22:46.880 And then they tried in Portland.
00:22:48.720 They, they did it in Atlanta.
00:22:49.860 They didn't Minnesota, but larger than the Pacific Northwest, you had this going on where
00:22:54.240 they, they, they seized a police building.
00:22:57.260 So my only conclusion is the police are in on it.
00:22:59.680 And maybe, maybe it's, maybe you're right when you said it's not really the police's
00:23:03.360 fault individually.
00:23:04.780 Like these beat cops know that even if they try to make an arrest, they're going to get
00:23:08.100 yelled at by their boss.
00:23:09.240 The person's going to get let go.
00:23:10.880 The city is going to pay a settlement and they're going to get in trouble.
00:23:13.360 I suppose I would, I would say the police bear some responsibility for this because if
00:23:18.840 these cops really felt that their hands were tied and it was unjust, they should just resign
00:23:25.100 in protest.
00:23:26.140 I can't do my job.
00:23:27.580 I'm not going to, because what would happen?
00:23:29.680 To these cities, if the police just said, nope, and then the protesters got to do whatever
00:23:34.320 they wanted, the people who live in these cities might actually then vote to change
00:23:39.120 things.
00:23:40.620 Unless of course it's what they want.
00:23:42.420 So I don't know, man, I'm, I'm, I'm curious then, um, what are your thoughts on the sentiment
00:23:47.080 of the people who live in Seattle in and around, uh, UW?
00:23:51.240 I think it's pretty divided because I think you get a lot of people who are honking their
00:23:55.080 horns as they drive through.
00:23:56.060 But as I was walking down the street in black block, I had a lot of really angry people
00:24:00.420 yelling at me like, Hey man, where's the violence happening today?
00:24:04.300 Who are you going to, what are you going to do?
00:24:05.600 Beat up an old lady today?
00:24:07.000 Are you going to take over another building?
00:24:08.480 I'm like, when you can't tell, but I'm laughing.
00:24:10.720 I, yeah, I felt bad because there was, um, a cameraman for this, um, uh, new station and
00:24:19.020 I won't say who or what station, but you know, he, he's not for these people or whatever,
00:24:26.000 but he's not doing anything wrong.
00:24:27.260 He's like this little innocent Hispanic guy and he's so sweet.
00:24:30.320 And they're, they're like walking by just finishing harassing these old people and he's
00:24:35.740 in the parking lot and they walk by and why don't you, you know, end your life too.
00:24:40.140 And, you know, it's just like, you just see the, like the, um, sadness, like wash over
00:24:45.060 these people's faces.
00:24:46.340 And so I went over afterwards and I like pulled my mask down and he was like, Hey, how are
00:24:50.160 you?
00:24:50.900 You know, but I, it's like, you just feel bad for these people that are just getting harassed
00:24:54.740 for literally no reason.
00:24:56.180 And there are, there are no repercussions for threatening violence against people or
00:25:01.520 for following people to their cars and shouting out their license plate numbers or standing
00:25:05.580 in front of people and false imprisoning them.
00:25:08.880 So what a crazy place, man.
00:25:10.960 Uh, I've, I've got a, I've got a question for you that no one, uh, outside of Seattle
00:25:15.220 who's never been there will understand.
00:25:16.860 And it's going to be great.
00:25:18.160 Um, so do you guys, uh, when you hang out at UW, do you still go eat a bag of dicks?
00:25:23.820 I don't get this joke.
00:25:24.980 I didn't really, it's just like a local, like a, like you'd get it if you went to
00:25:28.000 UW or yeah, there's Dick's burgers, man.
00:25:31.000 So everybody goes and walks up to get a bag of dicks.
00:25:34.060 And so when you, when you, when you hang out there, people be like, Hey, go eat it.
00:25:37.660 You want to go eat a bag of dicks?
00:25:39.000 And you're like, excuse me.
00:25:40.420 And they're like, let's go.
00:25:41.200 And then you walk up to the drive-in or whatever it's all the drive-in, but you walk
00:25:44.740 up and you get a bunch of cheeseburgers.
00:25:46.560 Yeah.
00:25:46.980 Okay.
00:25:47.360 Okay.
00:25:47.660 Interesting.
00:25:48.120 Yeah.
00:25:48.260 I, I, I, I hang out right in like red square or in the quad.
00:25:53.920 And I, I, I sit there, I parked my car under red square.
00:25:57.040 I sit in, in the, in the quad, I do my tabling and then I get the hell out of there as fast
00:26:01.440 as I can.
00:26:01.920 I do not, I do not waste any time around the surrounding area.
00:26:06.100 Yeah.
00:26:06.740 There, there, there, it's a, it's like a chain.
00:26:08.500 They've got them all over Seattle, I guess.
00:26:11.160 Well, not all over, there's a handful of them, but I haven't been, I was, I haven't been
00:26:15.160 to Seattle in like 15 years.
00:26:16.880 And I remember, uh, when I was down there, do you guys still, do you, do you still have
00:26:21.220 the av rats?
00:26:23.360 Like, are you talking about like homeless people all over the av?
00:26:25.900 There, there, when I was there, there was a group of young people, scuzz punk lefty
00:26:30.700 types.
00:26:31.080 They called the Avenue rats.
00:26:32.220 They call them the av rats.
00:26:33.040 And they lived on the university Avenue by all the, all that, all the markets and all
00:26:38.220 the food and restaurants.
00:26:39.120 I think I might've interviewed one the other day.
00:26:40.960 Yeah.
00:26:41.140 I don't go on the app very often, but, um, I mean, the av is great.
00:26:45.240 Like we were, I was interviewing this dude who might've been one of these av rats the other
00:26:49.800 day and we're interviewing him and this homeless dude comes up and he starts just like, there's
00:26:55.380 this smaller girl who's like listening to our conversation, standing kind of off to the side.
00:27:00.120 And this dude, the homeless dude comes up right behind her and he starts throwing these
00:27:03.800 e-scooters and e-bikes.
00:27:05.380 He's like yelling because he can't park his bike or the bike zone.
00:27:10.060 I don't know, but he, but then like somehow he got in front of us and now you can just
00:27:14.000 hear like disembodied screaming coming all up and down the app.
00:27:17.820 It's crazy.
00:27:18.640 It's kind of crazy, man.
00:27:19.500 How old are you?
00:27:20.900 25.
00:27:21.780 Yeah, man.
00:27:22.580 Jeez, I'm 39.
00:27:24.540 And it really does feel like all of our cities are getting worse.
00:27:29.020 Like, yeah, I mean, I've, I've, I've had stories of crazy homeless people, but the stuff we
00:27:35.260 see popping up now, I don't think is just a phenomenon of, of social media, making it
00:27:39.240 more apparent.
00:27:40.700 I heard stories out of like New York, Chicago, Seattle, LA.
00:27:46.080 I mean, the videos that come out of LA with the homelessness of people like taking dumps
00:27:49.840 in the street.
00:27:51.200 I also gotta be honest, never been to, I covered protests for about eight or nine years on the
00:27:55.680 ground across the U S and in other countries.
00:27:57.660 Never saw someone throw feces at somebody, you know, seems like things have escalated.
00:28:03.520 They absolutely have.
00:28:05.120 The tactics are changing.
00:28:07.080 And I, I didn't even, I didn't even realize that's what she threw until I saw like John
00:28:13.180 Cho texted me and he's like, somebody threw poop outside.
00:28:15.800 And I was like, what?
00:28:16.840 I didn't believe him.
00:28:18.300 I was like, no way, man.
00:28:20.460 At least it was in a bag, I guess, I guess, sooner or later it won't be.
00:28:26.400 And they'll just, anyway, man, uh, thanks for joining us.
00:28:29.520 Is there, is there anything else you wanted to add about what you're seeing or what you
00:28:32.440 may be covering in the future?
00:28:34.020 Yeah.
00:28:34.420 I mean, I'll just be covering these protests as they come, you know?
00:28:38.620 Um, so follow on X and I can only cover them as they come.
00:28:43.200 I'm not planning the protests.
00:28:44.760 So when there is a protest, I'll be there.
00:28:46.900 Where can people find you?
00:28:47.600 Uh, you find me in, on X at Cam Higby or on YouTube at Cam Higby.
00:28:52.520 Right on, man.
00:28:53.280 Well, stay safe out there.
00:28:55.300 Don't get feces thrown at you and, uh, good luck, brother.
00:28:58.780 Yeah.
00:28:59.080 Thanks.
00:28:59.540 Thanks for having me.
00:29:00.360 Thanks for hanging out.
00:29:01.580 See ya.
00:29:03.540 Ladies and gentlemen, that was Cam.
00:29:07.060 And, uh, you know, he's obviously on the ground here and actually, let me, uh, let me pull
00:29:10.580 this, this video back up because I'm pretty sure in the video, you can see him.
00:29:15.120 Let me, let me, let me play the video again.
00:29:17.600 I think that's Cam back there.
00:29:19.880 Are you scared?
00:29:21.220 Uh-oh.
00:29:22.220 I think that's him filming.
00:29:23.700 I'm just walking.
00:29:25.120 Stop.
00:29:26.060 Stop.
00:29:27.420 Stop.
00:29:28.620 Stop.
00:29:29.900 Because you can see, I think he's right here.
00:29:32.520 I should have just asked him.
00:29:33.680 Don't touch me.
00:29:35.040 And then I think he sprays her in the face with Mace.
00:29:37.600 I think he mazed her.
00:29:39.640 Yeah, I think he just got her.
00:29:43.320 Run.
00:29:44.300 Run, run, run.
00:29:45.340 Mace.
00:29:46.300 Yup.
00:29:50.020 Yo, man, it is wild out there.
00:29:54.120 Let me just, I'll just, I'll just say a few more things.
00:29:56.080 And if you guys got any rumble rants you want to throw in, we can, uh, maybe grab a couple.
00:30:00.940 But, you know, I got started doing all this, covering these, these protests, these conflicts
00:30:06.420 on the ground, and the stuff that I've been seeing, it has gotten absolutely crazy.
00:30:13.580 Look, the worst thing that happened to me when I was covering this stuff, you know, from
00:30:18.100 Occupy to the protests, they, uh, they would swing it, swing at my camera.
00:30:22.980 Uh, I had one instance in New York where someone swatted my hand with my phone in it.
00:30:27.980 But that was, that was about it.
00:30:31.200 Uh, it was a big deal, too.
00:30:32.960 There was actually a big story.
00:30:34.200 I wonder if you can find this.
00:30:37.760 I wonder if you can find the old story.
00:30:39.600 Yeah, there you go.
00:30:40.580 NBC News.
00:30:42.480 Look at this.
00:30:43.860 Yo.
00:30:44.460 Look at, look at 25-year-old me.
00:30:46.980 Cameras no longer allowed, welcome at Occupy Wall Street.
00:30:49.800 Attack highlights conflict.
00:30:52.240 Yup.
00:30:52.580 I even had live stream written on my phone, and then, uh, some dude physically attacked
00:30:58.080 me.
00:30:58.960 But to the point where they're throwing feces, and they, uh, bloodied up Andy Ngo, it's getting
00:31:06.500 crazy.
00:31:06.900 What I will say for Cam, for those other guys that are on the ground, for the
00:31:11.580 me, it got to a point where, uh, I was getting attacked.
00:31:15.740 I was getting trolled.
00:31:17.120 There's a video to Boston where this, uh, right-wing dude pulls my head off.
00:31:21.180 And I, like, naturally just got super pissed.
00:31:23.920 At that protest, some Antifa guy who was like, I don't know, 240 pounds, got in my face and
00:31:30.020 was swinging at me.
00:31:31.280 He's threatening to hit me.
00:31:32.800 And so here I am.
00:31:33.720 I got this guy in my face.
00:31:35.180 And then I walk down, and then this dude comes up behind me and then yanks my head off.
00:31:39.380 And I'm just on edge already, super pissed off, surrounded by the far left.
00:31:45.220 And now I'm like, now these guys are coming up to me.
00:31:47.580 I just was like, this is, it's getting too much.
00:31:50.300 People know who I am.
00:31:51.720 And so I was in, uh, I think I was in, I was in Portland.
00:31:56.420 And I actually had some 30-year-old guy.
00:31:59.040 It's like the craziest thing in the world.
00:32:00.260 So chasing me, literally jumping in front of the camera, just making weird noises.
00:32:05.720 And he wasn't associated with any of the protests.
00:32:07.800 The cops couldn't do anything about it.
00:32:09.640 And it's at this point, it's like, you can't actually do the job anymore.
00:32:12.060 So here I am, you know, and that's where I end up.
00:32:16.320 So shout out to all the guys that are still on the ground doing this reporting.
00:32:20.020 One question I should have asked is like, how come nobody's live streaming anymore?
00:32:24.020 You used to have people, they would go live.
00:32:25.920 But I suppose too many people are using those live streams to find you and then disrupt what
00:32:33.300 you're doing.
00:32:34.240 And if you're going to be like Cam or Katie and you're undercover, you're dressed in black
00:32:38.100 block to try and avoid being attacked, a live stream will just get you exposed.
00:32:44.240 That's how much things have kind of escalated.
00:32:47.600 But I think we do have a couple of rumble rants here, or at least one that came in.
00:32:53.040 And we got men walk away saying Antifa and BLM are the brown shirts of fascist Democrats.
00:33:00.400 Indeed, man.
00:33:02.140 Indeed.
00:33:03.240 What do we got?
00:33:04.100 We can grab maybe a couple of chats here before we raid our good friend Russell Brand.
00:33:08.900 And let's see.
00:33:11.460 Let's see.
00:33:12.380 Brojack says, well, you always dress like a homeless male prostitute.
00:33:15.160 Hard to not pick you out of the crowd.
00:33:17.700 Are you talking about me?
00:33:20.520 Maybe.
00:33:20.960 Anyway, my friends, we're going to let's let's get that raid for our friend Russell Brand
00:33:27.520 here.
00:33:28.980 What does he got going on?
00:33:30.100 He says, while you're watching, this could spark World War Three.
00:33:34.420 It's crazy news.
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00:36:03.740 However, when these, you know, they were the IRL streamers, I got no beef.
00:36:08.940 But like iShowSpeed, Kai Sinet, these guys dominate.
00:36:12.920 And mad respect for creating entertaining content.
00:36:15.600 I do.
00:36:16.440 I really respect that.
00:36:17.560 We are talking about news, changing the world, war.
00:36:22.360 We can do it, too.
00:36:24.040 So, guys, share the show with everyone you know.
00:36:26.020 Thank you all so much for hanging out, and we will see you all tonight.
00:36:28.240 I'm Chris Gethard, and I'm very excited to tell you about Beautiful Anonymous,
00:36:40.620 a podcast where I talk to random people on the phone.
00:36:43.420 I tweet out a phone number.
00:36:44.660 Thousands of people try to call.
00:36:46.080 I talk to one of them.
00:36:46.920 They stay anonymous.
00:36:47.920 I can't hang up.
00:36:48.900 That's all the rules.
00:36:49.880 I never know what's going to happen.
00:36:51.460 We get serious ones.
00:36:52.900 I've talked with meth dealers on their way to prison.
00:36:54.880 I've talked to people who survived mass shootings.
00:36:56.600 Crazy funny ones.
00:36:58.120 I talk to a guy with a goose laugh.
00:36:59.600 Somebody who dresses up as a pirate on the weekends.
00:37:01.900 I never know what's going to happen.
00:37:03.420 It's a great show.
00:37:04.680 Subscribe today.
00:37:05.720 Beautiful Anonymous.