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00:01:20.940 I was just going to say this, too.

00:01:22.560 I think a lot of the people who are talking about this were never this mega fracture.

00:01:27.460 They were never mega anyway.

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00:01:32.320 I'm going to get other people.

00:01:33.360 We don't, you know, he actively said he's going to get his crew to not vote for Trump.

00:01:37.660 Endorsing Kamala.

00:01:38.900 All this stuff.

00:01:39.420 And then everyone's like, well, mega's got a fracture.

00:01:41.580 I'm like, hmm.

00:01:42.380 How many of them really voted for Trump anyway?

00:01:44.400 I don't know if, how many of them even vote?

00:01:46.760 Like, I just don't buy it.

00:01:48.020 I think a lot of it is just fake.

00:01:50.200 Who killed Charlie Kirk?

00:01:52.440 A transgender furry's boyfriend?

00:01:54.980 Angry at Charlie Kirk for spreading hate?

00:01:57.580 Who climbed on that roof that fateful day and took a shot?

00:02:00.920 Or was it something else?

00:02:02.240 There's a rift happening on the right.

00:02:04.580 And it surrounds a variety of topics, largely around anti-Zionism,

00:02:08.440 as well as the killing of Charlie Kirk.

00:02:10.480 Which I think is probably the principal core, the moment at which the linchpin broke.

00:02:18.060 Charlie Kirk was a good man, and he was holding the right together.

00:02:21.780 I believe that he was, he's notorious for having answered every text message.

00:02:27.060 He would respond to everybody, and it was magic.

00:02:30.320 I don't know how he did it.

00:02:32.000 Well, Candace Owens has been making claims, insinuations, and investigating on her show.

00:02:37.660 What she says is now the number one podcast worldwide.

00:02:42.020 She's been heavily criticized by many on the right for pushing a claim that Charlie Kirk's murder was an inside job.

00:02:49.480 But the bigger picture here, as far as I'm concerned, is the rift and the fracturing on the right

00:02:54.660 and what it means for the movements or the bigger picture moving forward with Trump's plans,

00:03:00.000 the midterm elections, who will succeed Trump.

00:03:02.580 But I want to start with what is actually going on?

00:03:06.120 Why is the rift, why has it begun?

00:03:09.360 And I'll start here with Grok, everybody's favorite large language model.

00:03:14.480 Now, I'm not saying any of this is true.

00:03:16.320 I'm showing you how this large language model actually responds to the arguments made against Candace Owens.

00:03:23.420 With a question,

00:03:24.860 Is Candace Owens accused Turning Point USA of killing Charlie Kirk?

00:03:27.900 No, it says.

00:03:29.480 And feel free to pause and read through this if you'd like.

00:03:31.880 We'll be joined by Jeremy Hamley in just a moment to go over all this stuff and talk about what's happening.

00:03:35.480 They do highlight many statements she's made, where they say Owens has repeatedly promoted conspiracy theories

00:03:42.500 that heavily imply Turning Point USA's involvement in a cover-up or facilitation of the killing,

00:03:49.160 which many critics interpret as tantamount to an accusation.

00:03:52.640 And I think that's what basically everybody's saying.

00:03:54.340 She never explicitly said they did, but she has said inside job many times.

00:03:59.520 In fact, I believe we have, maybe it's not this one.

00:04:03.820 No, that's the Dead Man Switch video.

00:04:06.740 The dark story involves donors, sponsors, influencers,

00:04:10.160 a takeover of sorts that I think was happening right under Charlie's nose.

00:04:14.660 Effectively calling it an inside job.

00:04:15.960 Though she did say in other clips it was an inside job.

00:04:19.280 Grok continues.

00:04:20.020 I said, has Candace ever implied Erica Kirk knew or was involved?

00:04:25.860 Yes, Grok says.

00:04:27.880 Candace Owens has implied that Erica Kirk knew key details about the circumstances surrounding her assassination,

00:04:34.600 though she has repeatedly denied ever accusing Erica of direct involvement.

00:04:39.100 They're going to say,

00:04:39.740 On September 13th, Owens responded to an ex-user speculating about Erica Kirk's awareness of pressures Charlie faced,

00:04:46.100 stating, Erica knows everything.

00:04:47.820 This was posted shortly after the shooting in the context of Owens questioning the official narrative

00:04:53.220 and suggesting an inside job involving TPUSA staff.

00:04:56.860 This is, of course, Candace Owens saying that there were donors pressuring Charlie,

00:05:01.120 and someone asked, did Erica know about the pressure?

00:05:03.480 And she says, Erica knows everything.

00:05:05.020 On November 7th, she accused Ben Shapiro of fabricating a story that she accused Erica Kirk of killing her husband.

00:05:11.860 Later in the day, she reiterated on her podcast that equating her scrutiny of TPUSA's verifiable lies

00:05:16.940 to accusing Erica of murder is beyond smearing.

00:05:21.220 Backlash from the interpretations, of course, has resulted in the story I have just shown you.

00:05:25.480 The overall, I said, I asked Grok,

00:05:27.420 how would you interpret what Candace has said in the context as a whole?

00:05:31.620 What is the insinuation?

00:05:32.440 It says,

00:05:34.860 My analysis draws from the chronological pattern of a rhetoric,

00:05:37.460 which starts with the immediate skepticism,

00:05:39.060 builds up specific tips and inconsistencies,

00:05:40.980 and escalates to broader stomach accusations.

00:05:43.220 This isn't isolated sound bites.

00:05:44.780 It is a sustained narrative arc

00:05:48.020 that frames the event as a deliberate betrayal within conservative institutions.

00:05:52.880 With TPUSA at the center,

00:05:54.580 Owens positioning herself as the lone investigator uncovering verifiable lies,

00:05:58.800 drawing parallels to historical cover-ups.

00:06:01.120 The core accusation.

00:06:03.540 Owens' overarching insinuation is that Kirk's assassination wasn't a lone wolf act by Tyler Robinson,

00:06:09.220 but an inside job orchestrated or enabled by elements within his inner circle in TPUSA,

00:06:14.780 motivated by iological clashes,

00:06:17.640 Kirk's alleged shift away from pro-Israel stances,

00:06:19.500 and the internal power struggles,

00:06:21.880 financial scandals.

00:06:23.820 They say,

00:06:25.020 She stops short of direct accusations to avoid libel,

00:06:27.560 but the cumulative effect through loaded phrasing,

00:06:30.660 selective tips, and guilt by association implies

00:06:32.920 complicity or foreknowledge

00:06:35.420 by those closest to him,

00:06:37.540 including Erica Kirk.

00:06:39.740 Now, the one thing I can say is,

00:06:41.800 if this is not true of Candace Owens,

00:06:44.100 because I've only seen certain clips

00:06:45.480 and I've only watched a couple of her episodes,

00:06:48.280 I mean,

00:06:48.980 what Grok has been saying about this

00:06:51.020 is largely defamatory.

00:06:53.500 It's not an explicit claim it mentions.

00:06:56.100 It's, uh,

00:06:56.560 in some,

00:06:56.980 Owens' narrative insinuates a rotten core in the conservative movement,

00:06:59.760 with Erica as a symbolic gatekeeper to uncomfortable truths.

00:07:04.040 It's less about proving murder

00:07:05.380 than eroding trust in TPUSA's legacy,

00:07:07.740 potentially reshaping alliances,

00:07:09.700 her anti-Zionist pivot.

00:07:11.300 If her teased big day delivers,

00:07:14.020 it could solidify or implode.

00:07:16.260 Implode this.

00:07:17.140 Otherwise, it risks fading as performative outrage.

00:07:20.080 Either way, it's peak Owens,

00:07:21.980 provocative, polarizing, and profoundly disruptive.

00:07:24.700 I want to play a little bit of this clip,

00:07:26.800 and this will bring us into the discussion

00:07:29.240 with Jeremy Hambly.

00:07:30.380 Because what it registers to me as is power.

00:07:33.740 Real power hiding behind a veneer of victimhood.

00:07:36.620 The kind of power that can take somebody out

00:07:38.180 and end their entire career

00:07:39.420 if that person says something that they don't like.

00:07:41.980 And in this case,

00:07:43.040 it's not that I'm saying things that they don't like,

00:07:45.460 it's that I'm refusing to allow my voice to be controlled.

00:07:48.960 I want to be clear to you guys,

00:07:49.840 I'm going to be honest with you

00:07:50.780 because everybody's noticing it.

00:07:52.520 Every single political commentator in America,

00:07:55.860 every single one of them knows this,

00:07:58.580 that if you do not step out

00:08:00.940 and say things that are radically pro-Israel,

00:08:04.240 or if you are too quiet on certain narratives

00:08:07.300 and they want you to be radically pro-Israel,

00:08:09.020 you can lose everything.

00:08:10.040 That's truth.

00:08:10.860 That is a fact.

00:08:11.620 I'm not, I'm not...

00:08:12.240 Could lose everything, I guess.

00:08:14.240 It's not true as far as we're concerned.

00:08:16.180 And let's play more.

00:08:17.120 I'm not feeling like I need to hide from that anymore

00:08:19.800 because, or be afraid to say it, rather,

00:08:22.400 is a better way to say it,

00:08:23.220 because I've endured this for years.

00:08:25.840 I'm just at the end of my rope.

00:08:27.240 I have given so much rope here

00:08:29.640 and I am just done with it.

00:08:31.220 Every person that you are a fan of,

00:08:33.280 they know this.

00:08:34.240 Every person that you line up...

00:08:35.560 This is just lies.

00:08:36.700 You know, look, man.

00:08:37.720 I was a big fan of Candace for a long time.

00:08:39.980 This arc that she's on, it's fake.

00:08:42.500 Call it whatever you want.

00:08:43.380 She can say whatever she wants.

00:08:44.580 And she wants...

00:08:45.820 Israel shouldn't receive U.S. taxpayer dollars.

00:08:48.620 Cut them off.

00:08:49.560 I don't care.

00:08:50.420 I am ambivalent.

00:08:51.780 I don't care about Israel.

00:08:53.460 The idea that everybody knows this.

00:08:55.100 When Candace Owens recorded that clip,

00:08:56.720 she was at the Daily Wire, it appears,

00:08:58.600 she now is bragging about having

00:08:59.520 the number one podcast in the world.

00:09:00.940 So certainly, her anti-Zionist approach

00:09:02.680 has done her well.

00:09:04.180 That's not to say that there are lobbies

00:09:06.500 and interests that want you to be pro-Israel.

00:09:09.000 They certainly do.

00:09:10.540 But this argument that your career is destroyed

00:09:12.560 by criticizing Israel, it's silly to me.

00:09:14.920 Now, of course, this is the point.

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00:12:08.640 Jeremy, how's it going?

00:12:09.980 It's going well.

00:12:10.740 How are you?

00:12:11.420 I am doing great.

00:12:13.120 And thank you for joining me.

00:12:15.360 I was just ranting a bit longer than I normally do

00:12:18.200 on these subjects.

00:12:19.040 So sorry to keep you waiting.

00:12:19.840 But, you know, going over Candace Owens' claims

00:12:22.280 about lies from Turning Point USA,

00:12:25.720 talking, there's the general insinuation

00:12:27.980 that there was anti-Israel sentiment

00:12:30.980 at the core of why Charlie Kirk was really killed.

00:12:34.940 Now, my understanding is she's never explicitly stated

00:12:37.560 anyone did anything, but she has.

00:12:40.040 I believe she has claimed, maybe I'm wrong,

00:12:42.240 but, or at least heavily implied,

00:12:43.460 that Robinson is not really the assassin

00:12:45.800 of Charlie Kirk.

00:12:47.540 And the reason I bring this up is

00:12:48.620 the conversation, of course,

00:12:49.780 that we're going to be talking about

00:12:50.600 is like this rift, this divide that's been happening.

00:12:52.820 You've got Tucker,

00:12:54.100 the interview with Nick Fuentes.

00:12:54.960 Now there's this big story about a resignation

00:12:57.140 at the Heritage Foundation.

00:12:59.440 Candace Owens has an anti-Zionist pivot.

00:13:01.640 It's being referred to in media.

00:13:03.140 And this, of course, is kind of at the core

00:13:04.860 of the Charlie Kirk assassination story.

00:13:06.940 So I'm curious what your thoughts are

00:13:09.580 on this divide and these theories

00:13:11.660 and the whole Israel thing.

00:13:14.860 Wow, that's loaded.

00:13:17.300 That's a lot, right?

00:13:19.120 Yeah, I guess you just eat the elephant

00:13:20.880 one bite at a time.

00:13:21.940 And I think that there is a pivot

00:13:25.400 that's undeniable with kind of the Israel stuff.

00:13:29.620 And I think there are valid criticisms of Israel.

00:13:31.840 I, like you, simply am not all that interested in it.

00:13:34.780 That doesn't mean it's not important.

00:13:36.020 That doesn't mean it's not, you know,

00:13:37.340 it's a great beat for people to be on,

00:13:39.320 clearly right now.

00:13:40.620 But I do think that a lot of it is fueled.

00:13:43.600 It's just, I don't know, Tim,

00:13:45.580 but I know that it's fueled by,

00:13:50.040 I believe, bot traffic and a lot of,

00:13:53.320 look, if I was the left,

00:13:54.580 let's say hypothetically,

00:13:55.900 and I wanted to ensure that the right

00:13:57.820 is, you know, screwing up midterms,

00:14:00.580 this would be a great way to go about it.

00:14:02.360 I can't prove that,

00:14:03.720 but boy, it sure seems, you know,

00:14:06.760 we're not talking about, you know,

00:14:08.640 we've got a lot of ground to make up

00:14:09.860 in the midterms.

00:14:11.260 We're talking about who should

00:14:12.760 and who shouldn't be platform.

00:14:13.800 I don't care.

00:14:14.920 Tucker Carlson wants to have

00:14:16.160 whoever he wants.

00:14:17.140 They even asked Trump about it yesterday

00:14:18.660 and Trump said, I don't care.

00:14:21.040 I don't care.

00:14:21.620 Let's talk about the economy.

00:14:22.920 Let's talk about Gen Z having like this dread,

00:14:27.580 this complete demoralization

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00:14:31.540 ever buy a home or get ahead.

00:14:33.120 These are the issues that are going to matter

00:14:34.480 in the midterm elections,

00:14:35.680 which, you know,

00:14:36.460 the election cycle is going to start soon.

00:14:38.260 So look, again,

00:14:40.020 I think there are valid Israel criticisms.

00:14:41.840 I wish they didn't invest so much money

00:14:44.220 in our politicians,

00:14:44.940 but I wish that was true about Qatar.

00:14:47.380 I wish that was true about all these foreign nations.

00:14:50.240 And I just feel like there is a hot,

00:14:54.780 there is a real or fake kind of this,

00:15:00.600 it feels inorganic.

00:15:01.940 This like, oh, suddenly,

00:15:03.440 let me say this before.

00:15:05.420 I'll say this.

00:15:06.280 I've noticed of real,

00:15:07.840 this is probably an anger.

00:15:08.720 Yeah, I have noticed some things.

00:15:12.040 Have you noticed that there is a real similarity

00:15:16.200 in the way that kind of like the,

00:15:19.360 not just the casual critics of Israel,

00:15:22.500 I'm talking about the ones with like IDS.

00:15:25.200 It becomes like their personality.

00:15:27.620 Yeah.

00:15:28.020 Much in the way that the LGBTQ community

00:15:30.480 became their personality,

00:15:32.480 in particular with trans people.

00:15:33.860 Like you can't say,

00:15:36.580 hey, maybe this isn't important

00:15:37.620 because they take it really personal

00:15:39.260 and they make it their whole personality.

00:15:42.280 I don't think that's healthy for this country.

00:15:44.420 I don't think it's healthy going forward.

00:15:46.180 And I also don't believe that it's organic.

00:15:49.060 Yeah.

00:15:49.660 There's this clip I just played

00:15:50.860 before I brought you in

00:15:51.740 where it's Candace,

00:15:53.320 I believe when she was still at the Daily Wire saying,

00:15:55.860 every conservative,

00:15:57.520 every commentator you follow knows this,

00:15:59.760 that if you don't toe the line for Israel,

00:16:01.960 they'll destroy you.

00:16:03.520 And I'm like, I don't know this.

00:16:06.640 I've never been told that.

00:16:08.220 Never experienced it.

00:16:09.240 Never been threatened.

00:16:11.960 And, you know, it's funny

00:16:13.220 because I went to this meeting with Netanyahu

00:16:15.280 as well as many other journalists.

00:16:17.020 And that's proof to these people.

00:16:18.700 It's proof.

00:16:20.540 7K club, they say and all that.

00:16:22.440 And I'm like, I've been sitting here

00:16:23.360 saying the whole time,

00:16:24.820 cut off funding to Israel.

00:16:26.240 No more billions of dollars.

00:16:27.340 They're on their own.

00:16:28.080 I don't want to be involved in them whatsoever.

00:16:29.600 And that's not good enough.

00:16:30.600 That's still proof.

00:16:31.120 These people are obsessed with the issue

00:16:34.080 and they turn everything into it.

00:16:36.280 But that being said,

00:16:37.860 I largely don't care about,

00:16:40.320 I'm not going to change my opinion

00:16:41.320 on the issue of Israel.

00:16:42.180 I don't care.

00:16:42.780 I'm fairly ambivalent.

00:16:43.840 Because when I go to the grocery store,

00:16:45.960 when I'm playing a poker game or whatever,

00:16:47.640 I'm at the skate park,

00:16:48.680 not a single person's asking me about Israel.

00:16:50.880 They're asking you about tariffs.

00:16:52.860 They're saying like, what's up with these,

00:16:54.400 like, is this tax?

00:16:55.080 Is it going to make things more expensive?

00:16:56.960 They're talking about rent,

00:16:57.880 homeownership,

00:16:58.860 50-year mortgage is a big deal.

00:17:00.240 So why are so many prominent individuals

00:17:02.620 dancing over this issue of Zionism or Israel

00:17:06.540 as if it's the most important thing in politics?

00:17:09.080 Well, it's because it's inorganic.

00:17:11.040 I think that there's,

00:17:11.980 you have some group of them

00:17:13.320 who are legitimately,

00:17:14.600 I think Tucker has been legitimately

00:17:16.180 criticizing Israel for some time now,

00:17:18.040 maybe Candace too.

00:17:19.400 But then like,

00:17:20.760 it's kind of a fad in a way.

00:17:22.760 Look, I was at an RC track,

00:17:24.720 remote control car track,

00:17:26.160 and people were asking me

00:17:27.620 about the 50-year mortgage.

00:17:28.760 Not one person asked me about Israel.

00:17:31.960 And this is one of the very frustrating things.

00:17:34.380 It's, you have to,

00:17:36.400 I too have,

00:17:37.680 I've literally said F Israel.

00:17:40.000 I,

00:17:40.500 but I still get every post.

00:17:42.140 I'm like,

00:17:42.640 maybe Israel isn't responsible for the 7K,

00:17:44.720 7K,

00:17:45.180 7K.

00:17:46.180 It's like,

00:17:47.080 it is so bizarre.

00:17:49.240 I have a long history of being America

00:17:51.260 practically only.

00:17:52.800 And I have people who are like,

00:17:53.940 oh,

00:17:54.100 you're a Zionist.

00:17:55.020 I'm like,

00:17:55.200 I don't even know what that means technically.

00:17:56.920 I am so out of like,

00:17:59.440 I'm worried about 100,000 Americans

00:18:00.820 dying every year from fentanyl overdoses.

00:18:02.420 I'm worried about,

00:18:03.240 you know,

00:18:03.780 25,

00:18:04.320 30 million illegals that we need to get out of this country.

00:18:06.420 I'm worried about,

00:18:07.220 you know,

00:18:07.600 people talk about H-1Bs.

00:18:09.260 They don't even know that there are multiple other visa formats,

00:18:12.340 not the H-1B that still brings people into this country

00:18:15.000 to take jobs from Americans.

00:18:16.560 And that is what I'm worried about.

00:18:19.080 And I've tried,

00:18:20.260 I've been very heartened.

00:18:22.000 And,

00:18:22.060 and I,

00:18:22.780 you know,

00:18:23.320 you mentioned that you were getting kind of,

00:18:24.960 I feel like you,

00:18:25.900 it was you maybe talking about getting,

00:18:27.460 you know,

00:18:27.900 it's demoralizing,

00:18:28.980 right?

00:18:29.260 Yeah.

00:18:29.520 That is the correct word for it because it's like,

00:18:31.820 damn guys,

00:18:32.320 we're going to,

00:18:33.020 nobody remembers 2018 to 2020 where Trump couldn't get anything done.

00:18:36.500 This final two years,

00:18:37.320 he was getting impeached nonstop.

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00:19:29.540 That's what we're going to get if we don't fix,

00:19:31.800 you know,

00:19:32.620 we focus on the issues that people actually care about.

00:19:35.460 I'm not saying Israel doesn't need to be criticized,

00:19:37.660 but nobody's talking about that.

00:19:39.740 We're going to lose the midterms if all of our loudest voices spend the next eight months

00:19:43.700 talking about Israel and not talking about getting,

00:19:46.860 I mean,

00:19:47.160 we had Candace Owen say,

00:19:48.240 well,

00:19:48.360 I'm not going to vote until I get the answer on Charlie Kirk.

00:19:50.540 Essentially,

00:19:51.620 sorry,

00:19:52.020 I'm,

00:19:52.580 you know,

00:19:52.880 telling her millions of viewers that they should,

00:19:55.580 you know,

00:19:55.740 implying maybe they shouldn't also vote.

00:19:57.200 And it's like,

00:19:58.280 we,

00:19:58.400 I remember the last,

00:20:00.080 so we were going to have that again.

00:20:01.440 Trump's last year is not going to get anything done.

00:20:03.360 Over an issue that most Americans don't know or care about.

00:20:06.140 And by all means,

00:20:06.940 like,

00:20:07.600 even if you believe Israel is the biggest problem we face or whatever it is you believe,

00:20:11.940 sure,

00:20:12.400 you're going to lose on your own issue if that's what you're yelling at people.

00:20:17.560 So I put it like this,

00:20:18.300 you know,

00:20:19.620 I'd like,

00:20:20.800 let's see.

00:20:22.400 I would like to see poker be allowed in certain circumstances in West Virginia,

00:20:28.560 but it's illegal.

00:20:29.380 Am I going to run for governor and say,

00:20:31.600 my platform is we should all play poker.

00:20:33.620 No one's going to vote for me.

00:20:34.820 No,

00:20:35.060 you come out and you say,

00:20:35.900 let me know how I can help you vote for me.

00:20:37.800 And then I'll take care of what I'm interested in after the fact.

00:20:40.580 If the issue really was Israel,

00:20:42.500 they'd be saying,

00:20:43.480 let's get Trump to win and elect more Republicans who want to cut off the

00:20:48.300 funding to for these,

00:20:50.060 for these interventions in Ukraine,

00:20:51.600 Israel,

00:20:51.920 Afghanistan,

00:20:52.300 Iraq,

00:20:52.480 whatever it may be.

00:20:53.500 But when they come out only on Israel,

00:20:56.000 regular people are like,

00:20:57.520 Hey,

00:20:57.660 look,

00:20:57.840 man,

00:20:57.940 I can't afford groceries.

00:20:58.800 What are you talking about?

00:20:59.760 So in that,

00:21:00.620 in that sense,

00:21:01.140 it definitely feels like an op in some sense to destroy the rights message and,

00:21:07.360 and to,

00:21:09.060 and to throw us off base,

00:21:09.920 but especially on the,

00:21:11.400 on the Charlie Kirk assassination thing.

00:21:12.900 I'll bring it to this.

00:21:13.940 Yeah.

00:21:14.740 You've now got this report from Tucker of all people that the,

00:21:18.080 this,

00:21:18.380 the would be assassin of Trump was a,

00:21:20.760 they,

00:21:21.040 them who was engaged in weird furry stuff.

00:21:24.160 So when I hear that the FBI believes the key suspect of the Charlie Kirk

00:21:29.300 assassination was also someone involved in this transfer stuff.

00:21:32.580 I'm like,

00:21:33.180 well,

00:21:33.280 we have a big list of people.

00:21:34.840 Now these mass shooters who are in this weird leftist ideology and getting

00:21:38.540 violent because they're losing.

00:21:41.220 Why then shift the argument to no,

00:21:43.440 no,

00:21:43.620 actually it was inside as a turning point or Israel.

00:21:46.900 Well,

00:21:46.920 that's,

00:21:47.200 what's been successfully done too.

00:21:48.680 And I talked about,

00:21:49.400 I started,

00:21:49.720 I stopped making videos about when you say like demoralizing,

00:21:52.180 I was trying to fight against that.

00:21:54.120 And I was getting crushed.

00:21:55.440 And I was just like,

00:21:56.780 I can't like,

00:21:57.960 you start to get gas lit.

00:21:59.440 I'm like,

00:21:59.960 guys,

00:22:00.480 you know,

00:22:01.120 that the left keeps killing us,

00:22:03.320 right?

00:22:03.920 There was a leftist that was,

00:22:05.540 you know,

00:22:05.820 killed migrants.

00:22:06.940 He was trying to kill ice agents in Florida.

00:22:08.940 Nobody talks about that anymore.

00:22:10.760 We had,

00:22:11.580 in my opinion,

00:22:12.280 Tyler Robinson assassinated Charlie Kirk.

00:22:14.620 Now are there questions around it?

00:22:16.640 Yes.

00:22:16.880 Do I believe that his neck was made of superpower,

00:22:19.540 whatever?

00:22:20.420 No,

00:22:21.120 but does,

00:22:22.160 but there are other explanations for what have happened,

00:22:24.860 what may have happened.

00:22:25.920 I'm willing to wait for the investigation to come up.

00:22:27.900 There is a very weird thing that happens to when you're like,

00:22:30.800 Hey,

00:22:30.900 maybe it was Tyler Robinson.

00:22:32.080 They're like,

00:22:32.380 Oh,

00:22:32.620 well you just believe everything the FBI says.

00:22:35.440 You're not allowed to say like,

00:22:36.940 yeah,

00:22:37.100 I have questions,

00:22:37.760 but also I believe Tyler Robinson is the most likely person.

00:22:41.120 Look what happened.

00:22:42.360 A YouTuber by the name of Turkey Tom interviewed their friend,

00:22:46.840 a friend of Tyler Robinson and Lance Twiggs.

00:22:50.760 He came out a big narrative and I don't want to name names,

00:22:53.620 but a big narrative was,

00:22:54.220 well,

00:22:54.640 these texts aren't real.

00:22:56.100 Nobody says my love.

00:22:57.920 Nobody says vehicle,

00:22:59.360 except this person who's close personal friends with them in the interview

00:23:02.240 said Tyler Robinson absolutely called Lance Twiggs,

00:23:05.440 my love.

00:23:05.900 He did it all the time.

00:23:07.180 So it's like,

00:23:07.740 now everyone's talking about Israel did it.

00:23:10.600 Oh my God,

00:23:11.140 there were Israeli cell phones around and it's like,

00:23:13.880 well,

00:23:14.120 I guess the left is just going to do another,

00:23:16.000 you know,

00:23:16.560 they're going to have another,

00:23:17.560 they're going to kill another politician because nobody's paying attention to

00:23:20.640 it.

00:23:20.820 I was,

00:23:21.260 I was talking to somebody about this recently and you know,

00:23:23.700 like,

00:23:23.800 I agree with you.

00:23:24.500 It's like,

00:23:24.700 we're in a similar space.

00:23:25.400 I said,

00:23:26.100 yeah,

00:23:26.240 maybe,

00:23:26.800 maybe the FBI's narrative on,

00:23:28.120 on Charlie Kirk is not correct.

00:23:29.500 There are questions I have.

00:23:30.620 Some of these things certainly I think don't add up,

00:23:33.300 but Occam's razor would suggest,

00:23:35.580 especially based on the track record of the left,

00:23:37.560 the violence they've engaged in.

00:23:38.640 And this person likely was,

00:23:40.200 you know,

00:23:40.560 left leaning or otherwise.

00:23:41.940 And someone,

00:23:42.980 so it probably is Robinson,

00:23:44.560 but you know,

00:23:45.000 who knows?

00:23:45.280 We'll find out.

00:23:45.860 We'll see it in the trial.

00:23:47.680 And then someone asked me,

00:23:49.860 yeah,

00:23:50.140 but don't you think they're all acting very strange?

00:23:52.620 Like the,

00:23:53.100 the turning point people in Erica are acting.

00:23:55.240 This was someone directly quoting Candace to me saying,

00:23:58.680 you know,

00:23:59.360 something like Candace mentioned that Erica was aware of the donors and the,

00:24:03.480 and the pressure that Charlie was under and that everybody who watches Candace

00:24:07.440 always defends her and says,

00:24:08.280 she's never said Erica was involved,

00:24:10.500 but she's implied it very,

00:24:13.460 very sure.

00:24:14.180 In my opinion,

00:24:14.980 she's implied it heavily.

00:24:16.900 Agreed.

00:24:17.360 Agreed.

00:24:17.680 Like,

00:24:18.280 you know,

00:24:19.220 or that she's just blindly working with people who killed her husband and

00:24:22.140 doesn't know,

00:24:22.600 but they were like,

00:24:23.520 these other TPU,

00:24:24.500 TPSA insiders seem to be acting very strange.

00:24:27.600 And so I asked,

00:24:28.580 okay,

00:24:29.260 honest question.

00:24:31.420 In what,

00:24:32.740 uh,

00:24:33.080 can you,

00:24:33.360 can you reference any other high profile assassination of a large political

00:24:37.400 organization where the person's wife and friends acted in a different way?

00:24:43.800 And yet the answer is,

00:24:44.660 the answer is no,

00:24:45.580 because this hasn't happened before,

00:24:47.100 or at least not in our lifetime in this way.

00:24:49.180 And so my point is only,

00:24:50.960 listen,

00:24:52.060 I'm not here to say you're wrong on these,

00:24:53.820 on these theories or anything like this,

00:24:54.760 just that there's no,

00:24:56.220 there's no metric by which to call it strange.

00:24:59.320 It's just that you were told it feels strange.

00:25:03.380 We don't actually know what,

00:25:04.740 why,

00:25:05.040 how,

00:25:05.380 or it's,

00:25:06.000 it's,

00:25:06.040 it's hard to actually assess the facts in this matter.

00:25:08.380 My bigger concern is Candace is allowed to talk about whatever she wants,

00:25:13.100 be it Israel,

00:25:13.740 Charlie,

00:25:13.940 or otherwise,

00:25:14.340 but it's pulling us off of the core issues that are going to win us a midterm and

00:25:19.340 make sure on these deeper questions,

00:25:21.500 we win.

00:25:21.880 And it is fracturing the right.

00:25:24.700 And I believe that it's,

00:25:26.480 and it's an,

00:25:27.020 look,

00:25:27.340 I agree a hundred percent.

00:25:28.620 And just so people,

00:25:29.280 so you want to do platform,

00:25:30.660 no,

00:25:30.860 Candace can use her platform and talk about whatever she wants.

00:25:32.920 Tucker too.

00:25:33.700 I tell people,

00:25:34.060 look,

00:25:34.280 I'm not interested in a lot of the stuff Tucker talks about,

00:25:37.020 but you better believe I tuned in on Friday when he did an episode on,

00:25:39.760 on the YouTube messages.

00:25:41.680 The same thing with Candace.

00:25:42.840 If she breaks a story that I'm interested in,

00:25:44.640 I'll probably watch right now.

00:25:46.600 I genuinely believe that she believes a lot of the stuff she's saying.

00:25:50.620 I just don't know if she's getting fed stuff a certain way.

00:25:56.240 I mean,

00:25:56.520 isn't it possible that maybe somebody is feeding her information that,

00:26:01.580 you know,

00:26:02.360 and gaslighting her into this because they know it's effectively dividing the

00:26:05.560 right.

00:26:06.200 But,

00:26:06.360 but again,

00:26:06.680 when she says like every commentator knows that if you don't tow the line

00:26:10.620 for Israel,

00:26:11.420 yeah,

00:26:11.620 hold on.

00:26:12.160 Like,

00:26:12.280 let me just say this.

00:26:13.860 She's now bragging about being the number one podcast.

00:26:15.920 And,

00:26:16.360 and right on,

00:26:16.940 she's always been a massive presence,

00:26:18.560 a massive person with a huge show and it's even bigger now,

00:26:21.420 but she's been anti-Zionist critical of Israel for a long time now.

00:26:26.060 Why haven't they come for her career?

00:26:27.780 What's the argument that she made?

00:26:30.720 Or Tucker.

00:26:31.940 Yeah,

00:26:32.140 exactly.

00:26:32.800 I mean,

00:26:33.060 Tucker by,

00:26:33.940 by many accounts is bigger than he's ever been.

00:26:35.900 Yeah.

00:26:36.540 Especially,

00:26:37.280 especially now with him being the center of this,

00:26:39.500 this major controversy,

00:26:40.480 they tried to silence him from Fox,

00:26:42.400 but he's,

00:26:42.600 he's eating millions of hits on his,

00:26:44.760 on his show.

00:26:45.340 And he's one of the top podcasts in the world as well.

00:26:48.380 What is this narrative?

00:26:49.420 And look at Nick Fuentes.

00:26:50.820 He shot to the top of the Spotify charts.

00:26:52.800 They banned him for it.

00:26:54.380 Now he's as big as he's ever been right now.

00:26:56.200 And,

00:26:56.360 and I'll be fair on the,

00:26:57.920 you can make the argument,

00:26:58.720 Nick got banned and he's critical of Israel,

00:27:00.800 but other major Israel critics are not getting banned.

00:27:04.340 And I will also add daily wire views are,

00:27:08.300 they're down.

00:27:09.260 You know what I mean?

00:27:10.260 So it's like,

00:27:10.660 I don't understand this argument that you have to be pro Israel.

00:27:13.020 It's by all,

00:27:13.560 by all accounts right now,

00:27:14.380 it seems like anti-Israel is the path of viewership.

00:27:17.420 It's nonsense.

00:27:18.260 I mean,

00:27:18.400 I have 2 million,

00:27:19.200 almost 2 million subscribers now,

00:27:20.560 and nobody has ever said anything to me about,

00:27:23.260 Hey,

00:27:23.320 this is what you can talk about.

00:27:24.380 And this is what you can't talk about.

00:27:25.480 That's just a fact.

00:27:26.660 And,

00:27:26.980 and I,

00:27:27.460 I agree that.

00:27:28.900 I think that there are a lot of implications that are made.

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00:28:24.100 critical of Israel,

00:28:25.060 which is directly refuted.

00:28:26.600 Like you said,

00:28:27.240 And the fact that Nick is one of the top live streamers on rumble,

00:28:31.700 the platform where yes,

00:28:32.740 he got banned from YouTube,

00:28:33.580 but let me also point out he was banned,

00:28:36.140 not just specifically for look.

00:28:38.760 I think Nick is very entertaining,

00:28:40.080 but I think even he would admit in his younger days,

00:28:42.800 just like with me,

00:28:43.620 he said stuff that was over the line and crazy that maybe he was banned for

00:28:49.080 that.

00:28:49.920 Not necessarily being critical of Israel,

00:28:51.760 but I'm not going to repeat some of the stuff,

00:28:53.580 but you know,

00:28:54.460 I think that there was a lot of heinous stuff that he said that maybe he'd

00:28:57.500 even take back.

00:28:58.260 Now,

00:28:58.960 Candace is number one.

00:29:00.080 Every podcast she puts out is fully monetized on YouTube.

00:29:02.900 She has more sponsors than ever.

00:29:04.780 And mainstream nonsense.

00:29:06.160 She has like high profile,

00:29:08.280 mainstream,

00:29:08.760 normal sponsors.

00:29:10.140 Yeah.

00:29:10.560 So I never get those ads.

00:29:11.860 I never get those kinds of sponsors that she gets.

00:29:13.940 She gets crazy good sponsorships.

00:29:15.380 So it's just nonsense.

00:29:16.660 It's,

00:29:16.900 it's like how the right are the left gaslights like,

00:29:20.220 Oh,

00:29:20.460 they're coming after me.

00:29:21.720 Well,

00:29:22.140 aren't you the number one podcast?

00:29:23.740 Well,

00:29:24.040 but any minute now,

00:29:25.240 it's like,

00:29:26.180 well,

00:29:26.780 I mean,

00:29:27.400 what about,

00:29:28.000 what about Tucker Carlson?

00:29:29.580 You know,

00:29:29.960 what about Nick?

00:29:31.220 What about these people are all huge.

00:29:32.760 And by the way,

00:29:33.280 Nick is pretty regularly on the YouTube platform.

00:29:36.280 It's not like YouTube,

00:29:37.040 YouTube's pretty lax with his ban.

00:29:38.740 Like he's allowed to do whatever shows he wants.

00:29:41.140 So,

00:29:41.300 I mean,

00:29:41.460 I,

00:29:41.740 I think for a lot of these people,

00:29:43.380 they'll point to like,

00:29:43.980 yay.

00:29:44.240 And they'll say,

00:29:44.720 look at all the censorship over the people who criticize Jews.

00:29:47.020 And it's like,

00:29:47.520 yeah,

00:29:47.620 but hold on.

00:29:49.000 The,

00:29:49.460 that was the general censorship period where if you targeted a group of

00:29:53.060 people,

00:29:53.380 you'd get banned.

00:29:54.060 Like if,

00:29:54.480 if you insulted or denigrated a group based on their ethnic or religious

00:29:58.440 identity.

00:29:59.260 So if you made a video talk,

00:30:00.900 attacking black people,

00:30:02.080 they'd ban you Jews,

00:30:03.320 they'd ban you,

00:30:03.820 but Chris has white people.

00:30:05.280 All day and night.

00:30:06.320 I think it's fair to say that these weird,

00:30:08.400 censorious social justice people were,

00:30:09.960 were playing those games.

00:30:11.260 Now we've largely won on that front.

00:30:13.720 And now you can be openly critical of basically everybody.

00:30:16.620 So I don't think it was ever really an issue of Israel's banning you from

00:30:20.220 talking about this,

00:30:21.000 but social justice,

00:30:22.700 wacko leftists hated white people and banned anyone who disparaged any

00:30:26.800 other group.

00:30:27.900 That's why Candace today is doing really,

00:30:29.860 really well,

00:30:30.360 despite being particularly Israel critical and getting major sponsors.

00:30:33.880 None,

00:30:34.060 none of these companies are going,

00:30:35.580 we can't sponsor Candace because she says bad things about Israel and implies

00:30:39.340 turning point killed Charlie.

00:30:40.560 They got no problem with it.

00:30:42.420 Yeah.

00:30:42.580 And I think,

00:30:43.180 I think that there are certain examples where I feel like we are hypersensitive to

00:30:50.280 criticism of Israel.

00:30:51.820 For example,

00:30:52.540 when you have Pam Bondi coming to,

00:30:53.740 Oh,

00:30:53.760 we need hate speech laws.

00:30:54.980 Right.

00:30:55.260 And every time that happens,

00:30:56.600 it's like,

00:30:57.980 you know,

00:30:58.480 I,

00:30:58.800 I facepalm and I'm like,

00:31:00.520 man,

00:31:00.940 like this just proves kind of that movement.

00:31:04.000 Correct.

00:31:04.240 When you're like,

00:31:05.180 well,

00:31:05.280 we have,

00:31:05.940 or you have like Randy,

00:31:06.800 we have certain politicians,

00:31:08.020 Randy fine being like very,

00:31:09.680 very,

00:31:10.240 very concerned about Israel.

00:31:12.000 I think that stuff is gross.

00:31:13.460 And that's what I mean.

00:31:14.060 Like I,

00:31:15.520 I would agree with some of the issues.

00:31:17.960 I just don't think that Israel is the most important issue right now.

00:31:21.560 When young people can't afford houses,

00:31:23.700 young people can't afford to rent.

00:31:25.260 We have 50 or mortgages sliding out there.

00:31:27.360 And I have people,

00:31:27.920 my mentions defending them.

00:31:30.600 Like I sold cars.

00:31:31.740 We sold a lot of 84 month loans.

00:31:33.280 And I'll tell you what,

00:31:33.960 it was never once to somebody with a 700 credit score.

00:31:36.340 And who had a good idea about how money work.

00:31:38.900 It's predatory.

00:31:40.040 It's bad.

00:31:41.000 You'll own nothing and be happy.

00:31:42.420 And everyone's like,

00:31:43.060 yeah,

00:31:43.340 but I'm like,

00:31:44.040 no,

00:31:44.780 we need to lower the prices of houses.

00:31:46.700 We need to lower interest.

00:31:47.780 And interest rates are six and a quarter percent right now.

00:31:49.740 Six and a half percent.

00:31:50.940 My house is at 2.75%.

00:31:53.160 I have golden handcuffs.

00:31:54.500 I can never move.

00:31:55.500 That mortgage is too good.

00:31:57.600 Like there's a lot of things that will get people out to vote.

00:32:00.760 And almost none of them.

00:32:02.480 Look,

00:32:03.300 I also say this too.

00:32:05.120 I think a lot of the people who are talking about this were never this mega fracture.

00:32:09.780 They were never mega anyway.

00:32:11.300 You can look at Nick who actively said,

00:32:13.280 Hey,

00:32:13.400 I'm going to get Yang gang.

00:32:14.620 I'm going to get other people.

00:32:15.580 We don't,

00:32:16.160 you know,

00:32:16.520 he actively said he's going to get his crew to not vote for Trump endorsing Kamala,

00:32:21.180 all this stuff.

00:32:21.720 And then everyone's like,

00:32:22.460 well,

00:32:22.740 mega's got a fracture.

00:32:23.880 I'm like,

00:32:24.180 how many of them really voted for Trump anyway?

00:32:26.700 I don't know if,

00:32:27.860 how many of them even vote?

00:32:29.060 Like,

00:32:29.280 I just don't buy it.

00:32:30.380 I think a lot of it is just fake.

00:32:32.560 What I,

00:32:32.920 as to the,

00:32:33.720 uh,

00:32:33.900 the Charlie Kirk conspiracy theories,

00:32:35.500 I'll,

00:32:35.860 I'll preface it again by saying,

00:32:37.220 what do we know?

00:32:38.680 We'll find out.

00:32:39.580 Maybe there's evidence.

00:32:40.660 Um,

00:32:41.180 it's funny because I've got sources.

00:32:44.160 I'm sure you do.

00:32:45.080 You do too.

00:32:45.800 Uh,

00:32:46.120 I know people who know things,

00:32:48.080 uh,

00:32:48.960 without saying too much,

00:32:50.060 let me just stress that these FBI people have been on Timcast before that.

00:32:54.300 I've gone to the white house and I've interviewed DHS and,

00:32:57.440 and Sam Gorka.

00:32:58.700 I know a lot of these people and I don't publish.

00:33:02.020 Text messages from any of them.

00:33:04.160 I'm not releasing emails or leaking anything where,

00:33:07.320 what I can say is this based on my conversations.

00:33:09.620 Cause you know,

00:33:10.140 like I hear something from Candace or about Candace and I'll,

00:33:13.300 I'll,

00:33:13.520 I'll make a phone call.

00:33:14.440 I'll be like,

00:33:14.860 Hey,

00:33:15.000 like,

00:33:15.180 what do we have on this?

00:33:16.500 What's going on?

00:33:17.660 And the general assessment is the evidence against Robinson is actually much,

00:33:23.520 much better than people realize.

00:33:25.460 That's what I'm hearing too,

00:33:26.540 Tim.

00:33:26.840 I've said,

00:33:27.220 people say,

00:33:27.620 wait till the trial.

00:33:28.380 There will be no doubt.

00:33:29.160 Right.

00:33:29.340 That's what I get told.

00:33:30.100 And this is,

00:33:30.500 this is why,

00:33:31.100 uh,

00:33:31.480 Jack Posobiec.

00:33:32.240 And I think Erica Kirk and many were like,

00:33:34.580 we want cameras in the courtroom because,

00:33:36.900 so the question I get is,

00:33:39.160 yeah,

00:33:39.260 but why won't they then just release the evidence?

00:33:41.820 Why won't the feds just come out and say,

00:33:43.520 here's more proof.

00:33:44.660 Why won't they release video?

00:33:45.580 Because that will compromise a criminal trial that they released.

00:33:50.540 It's a very convenient position to be as an attempt.

00:33:53.200 Like you,

00:33:53.580 they know they can't release it to counter their narrative.

00:33:57.140 And so I'm sure what's going to happen is everyone's just going to move on to the next thing.

00:34:01.340 As soon as the trial starts,

00:34:03.000 because it's,

00:34:03.940 it's a great time to say,

00:34:05.440 make unfounded claims because the FBI literally cannot refute anything.

00:34:10.220 Like they released the autopsy.

00:34:12.560 They never did an autopsy.

00:34:14.280 Well,

00:34:14.420 actually they did.

00:34:15.160 They did several autopsies.

00:34:16.320 Whoa.

00:34:16.860 Well,

00:34:17.060 what about this thing?

00:34:17.980 And it's like,

00:34:18.440 well,

00:34:19.140 I can't keep up with it.

00:34:20.980 And again,

00:34:21.340 I got no problem saying maybe they're all wrong.

00:34:22.960 I don't know that what I've heard behind the scenes,

00:34:25.920 private and public,

00:34:27.320 meaning like from government and from corporations and from people in,

00:34:30.780 in the know who have been involved is that they're not going to release evidence

00:34:35.680 that will lay out their arguments in advance.

00:34:39.220 They will release evidence to the defense that they are legally required to.

00:34:43.500 But if they issue a statement saying,

00:34:45.220 here's our position,

00:34:46.620 you are going to give the suspect advanced knowledge to the tune of years or

00:34:52.780 months of what you're going to argue in court.

00:34:55.180 And they're going to try and find ways to break that apart.

00:34:57.740 And that could be fabricating alibis or who knows what they might do.

00:35:01.920 It is an absurdity in my opinion that they would expect a high profile case to

00:35:06.600 come out and be like,

00:35:07.540 here's all the evidence,

00:35:08.560 have fun,

00:35:08.960 go for it,

00:35:09.400 because then you're going to get an acquittal.

00:35:11.040 So here's what I'm going to say that,

00:35:13.100 you know,

00:35:13.340 people get mad at me about,

00:35:14.220 but I'm not here to hold hands.

00:35:15.040 I think Candace has a grudge against a turning point.

00:35:18.320 I agree.

00:35:19.460 There,

00:35:19.560 there is a,

00:35:20.460 I guess a feud in 2023 is what I've seen people talking about where there was an argument over,

00:35:27.420 um,

00:35:28.120 with like Candace and,

00:35:29.160 and,

00:35:29.440 and,

00:35:29.780 and Charlie Candace still really great friends with Charlie stepped back and wasn't as heavily

00:35:34.400 involved.

00:35:34.880 And now that Charlie is gone,

00:35:37.520 the people at turning point,

00:35:38.900 she does not like,

00:35:40.500 I'll put it,

00:35:41.260 I'll put it nice and I'll put it mean.

00:35:43.320 She doesn't trust them.

00:35:44.920 So to a hammer,

00:35:45.920 everything looks like an ale.

00:35:46.860 These are people who betrayed her or who she doesn't like,

00:35:49.180 or she thought was manipulating Charlie.

00:35:50.380 She thinks betrayed her,

00:35:51.840 right?

00:35:52.020 We don't even know.

00:35:53.400 And so maybe she's just biased.

00:35:55.300 Worse.

00:35:55.920 The worst case scenario is she's looking for a means to attack these people.

00:36:00.040 She does not like,

00:36:00.840 what I can't say is maybe she's right.

00:36:03.580 You know,

00:36:03.820 I don't know.

00:36:04.500 Um,

00:36:04.840 I don't think so.

00:36:05.580 I think it's more,

00:36:06.440 uh,

00:36:06.900 bias oriented.

00:36:08.320 And I think it's these,

00:36:09.860 these,

00:36:10.140 these ongoing Charlie narrative is dividing the right in a way that doesn't help us in

00:36:14.080 any way.

00:36:14.960 So what I've said is when people talk to your point about Nick and,

00:36:19.560 you know,

00:36:19.620 he's not really MAGA.

00:36:20.440 He was pro commonly.

00:36:21.240 He was,

00:36:21.520 he was anti-Trump.

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00:37:13.080 This is what I say of Candace.

00:37:14.340 I don't,

00:37:15.020 I don't see her as being a Republican comment or conservative commentator.

00:37:17.900 She's an influencer podcaster who talks about Blake Lively and Bridget McCrone being a man.

00:37:24.900 That's her accusation.

00:37:26.020 These are not principal issues of policy, debate, elections.

00:37:30.760 It is true crime and drama.

00:37:33.640 And so if she's going to do a true crime drama thing as it goes with Charlie, I'm not all that

00:37:38.120 bent out of shape because it's not the right.

00:37:40.080 Now the Tucker thing does bring us into this rift with a resignation from Heritage and all

00:37:44.500 that, but even Trump just comes out right now and says, Tucker can talk to whoever he wants.

00:37:48.680 So perhaps it's not really that bad.

00:37:50.760 So long as what's demoralizing is the Candace thing is pulling conservative commentators into

00:37:57.000 a drama sphere instead of staying focused on policy.

00:38:00.280 I'll tell you this, Trump last week, it felt like this was the worst week of the Trump presidency

00:38:06.220 and that everything was falling apart.

00:38:08.960 And I tweeted on Friday, X'd on Friday, you know, like everyone just relax.

00:38:14.940 It was a bad week.

00:38:16.060 We admit it.

00:38:16.760 But like, look what happened.

00:38:18.840 Trump came out and said, look, Tucker can interview whoever he wants.

00:38:22.380 And oh, by the way, release the files.

00:38:24.560 So like everything that everybody, that's why I say it's like, it's like there is bot traffic

00:38:30.960 or there is an actual effort to like demoralize and break apart the right because it's like

00:38:36.620 everybody on Friday was like, oh my God, it's all falling apart.

00:38:41.620 And I'm like, do you?

00:38:43.800 Yeah.

00:38:44.460 But like, do you not remember 2016?

00:38:46.120 This is who Trump is.

00:38:47.880 He does crazy stuff.

00:38:49.660 And then he comes back and most of the time he fixes it.

00:38:53.680 And now go ahead.

00:38:55.080 No, no, finish, finish, finish.

00:38:56.300 I've said like him calling this stuff a hoax.

00:38:58.680 I think I actually understand now.

00:39:00.280 I think he thinks that he's in the files is a hoax.

00:39:04.280 And that's why he says hoax.

00:39:06.000 But like now he, he read the room or somebody got in his ear.

00:39:09.540 This is where we miss Charlie the most.

00:39:10.940 I think Charlie would have gotten in his ear much sooner.

00:39:13.680 And like, now he's like, hey, well, we'll just read the release the files.

00:39:17.060 Let's get back to talking about how we're winning.

00:39:18.640 I'm like, yes, thank you.

00:39:21.240 And now everybody who is chicken littling on Friday can flip and relax.

00:39:26.180 I want to, I want to just say one last thing too.

00:39:28.000 Um, I remember when DeSantis was the favorite to win the Republican nomination back in like

00:39:34.720 22 and the right was fighting each other like crazy.

00:39:38.160 The pro DeSantis side ripping apart the MAGA side.

00:39:40.760 And we were like, oh no.

00:39:41.980 And then Trump wins.

00:39:43.660 The DeSantis people all come back together.

00:39:45.360 And then Trump goes on to actually win the actual election.

00:39:49.240 So even with all of this demoralization and rift, I'm willing to bet this.

00:39:53.960 I'm sure, um, in the event Candace hears that I have criticisms of her, my show is nowhere

00:39:58.200 near as big as hers.

00:39:59.040 But in the event it comes across it, I'm sure she'll have a rebuttal or privately have a

00:40:03.760 rebuttal.

00:40:04.100 She doesn't need to say anything to me.

00:40:05.060 But I know that probably when we get to 28, we're all going to be on the same page again,

00:40:10.160 being like, we got to win, especially the midterms too.

00:40:12.680 So that's what I'm hoping.

00:40:13.680 So let's enjoy the bickering for now, but I think it'll come together.

00:40:17.820 Yeah.

00:40:17.960 Any, any, any final thoughts you wanted to add on this before we wrap up?

00:40:20.600 I think we, I think we agree on that.

00:40:22.480 I think after Christmas and then when the midterm election cycle starts, everybody's going to

00:40:27.200 be back on path.

00:40:28.760 We already saw Trump kind of say, all right, here's your dang files.

00:40:32.180 Okay.

00:40:32.960 And let's get back to work.

00:40:34.700 That's how I felt.

00:40:36.280 Trump's going to do some wackadoo things, but I think ultimately the guy is a chaotic good

00:40:41.960 and he's going to be fine.

00:40:44.000 And, and that the, the political voices, the people who actually want to get people out

00:40:47.820 there and vote, they're going to re-coalass and it's, and it's going to be a fight, but

00:40:52.500 it's going to be about, you know, Trump talking about Massey's wife.

00:40:56.080 Oh, that was bad.

00:40:57.640 You know, like all that stuff, like that's as bad as Trump gets, but now we're getting

00:41:01.540 good Trump, like get back on it.

00:41:03.280 And I feel confident that after Christmas, you know, and the Kirk trial starts, that's

00:41:09.420 going to help too.

00:41:10.100 These evidence will actually start to come out.

00:41:12.140 So I'm still optimistic.

00:41:13.500 I am not doom pilled.

00:41:15.360 And, um, and, and I think that there are many distractions, but they will, they will simply

00:41:21.020 go away when the midterm people will remember who the real enemy is.

00:41:23.900 I agree.

00:41:24.640 Right on brother.

00:41:25.120 Well, Hey man, it's been really great.

00:41:26.120 Hanging out.

00:41:26.700 Uh, where can people find you?

00:41:28.140 Yeah.

00:41:28.460 Thanks for having me.

00:41:29.180 I'm, I'm, I'm on YouTube and rumble.

00:41:30.940 I'm live on rumble at, um, two Eastern.

00:41:33.860 So if you're looking for something to watch, um, you know, you've got your Tim fix and now

00:41:37.940 you need, um, like a, a portly Midwestern guy, you know, I'm on there and I'd love to see

00:41:43.840 you on the live show.

00:41:44.980 And I appreciate you having me on Tim.

00:41:46.820 And I was always good to talk to you, man.

00:41:48.160 Right on, man.

00:41:48.600 Anytime.

00:41:49.020 Thanks for hanging out.

00:41:50.140 See ya.

00:41:50.360 Anyway, that of course is Jeremy Hambly, AKA the quartering joining us today.

00:41:56.400 So really do appreciate you guys tuning in, smash the like button, share the show with

00:42:00.080 everyone, you know, become a member of our discord community.

00:42:03.720 Uh, you know, I'll say one final thing.

00:42:05.800 I went on Candace's show and I went and visited the daily wire a couple of years ago and I

00:42:09.840 think she's a genius.

00:42:10.780 I really do mean it when I say it.

00:42:12.780 Um, I've been familiar with some of her work and I went on her show and I can't, there was

00:42:17.440 a bunch of issues that were going on that I had analyzed.

00:42:20.100 I had looked up the evidence and quick as can be, she nailed every point.

00:42:26.160 She saw through manipulations and lies.

00:42:28.160 I was very, very, very impressed as for right now.

00:42:31.800 Uh, I'm not even necessarily saying she's wrong.

00:42:33.520 I do take issue with like this hyper focus on Israel, but, um, you know, the one thing

00:42:39.520 that always does give me pauses, I haven't forgotten.

00:42:42.480 And I know a lot of people don't like Candace.

00:42:44.100 I haven't forgotten when I went on her show and how, how astute and intelligent she was.

00:42:50.260 You don't get to number one on accident.

00:42:52.660 So I don't think, I don't think that she's simply making mistakes.

00:42:58.380 Um, I think bias potentially pays, plays a role in this, her concerns over turning point.

00:43:05.160 And then, um, maybe she's right.

00:43:07.280 You know, what do I know?

00:43:09.520 I think that merit goes a long way and there's a lot of people, they're usually leftists.

00:43:15.260 They take a look at someone like Candace and her success and, or Tucker, and they're going

00:43:19.680 to say it's because they're liars because they're grifters.

00:43:21.120 I don't do that.

00:43:21.660 But I take a look at someone like Candace and Tucker, and I think to myself, what am

00:43:26.280 I doing wrong?

00:43:27.980 And with that being said, uh, I do have tremendous respect for Candace, even if I think she's

00:43:32.340 wrong or deserving of criticism.

00:43:34.020 And, uh, that's why I always say when it comes to calling people out, there's the benefit

00:43:38.980 of the doubt that I give to people that are typically correct on issues.

00:43:42.860 And if I think someone's wrong, I'm going to say, I think they're wrong.

00:43:45.560 We'll see.

00:43:46.520 I think it's all going to work out in the end.

00:43:48.020 But other than that, Hey, it is what it is.

00:43:49.920 Smash the like button, share the show, stay tuned.

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The Culture War - Tim Pool - November 17, 2025

Candace Owens Says Charlie Kirk Assassination REEKS Of INSIDE JOB, Right DIVIDED ft. The Quartering

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