The Culture War - Tim Pool - Is Trump Still Winning？

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00:01:34.240 This is The Culture War Live. Welcome to the show.

00:01:36.980 Welcome.

00:01:37.340 Welcome.

00:01:39.700 We have an excellent panel here tonight.

00:01:42.140 Of course, as Brandon has explained, we're actually going to bring you guys up here to join the debate.

00:01:48.960 And the question is, is Trump still winning?

00:01:52.260 That's the question. I hear some yeses.

00:01:54.440 So we've got an excellent panel up here.

00:01:56.120 Of course, I am Tim Pool. You guys know who I am.

00:01:58.260 Why don't we start from the left and we'll move down.

00:01:59.620 Would you like to introduce yourself, sir?

00:02:00.560 Awesome. Yeah, I'm Pisco. I'm an attorney.

00:02:01.900 I stream at Pisco's Hour.

00:02:03.440 I think Trump's fucking up. I think you guys know it.

00:02:05.960 Let's go!

00:02:07.560 My name is Gavin McInnes.

00:02:09.020 I invented hipsters and Proud Boys and Vice.

00:02:13.720 And Trump is winning right now and will always be winning.

00:02:18.800 This guy's texting.

00:02:20.180 No, I'm getting the timer ready, guys.

00:02:21.520 I'm the pimp on a blimp.

00:02:22.440 I'm primetime 99, Alex Stein.

00:02:23.940 You know who I am.

00:02:24.880 Let me hear it out there.

00:02:25.820 Let me hear some love.

00:02:27.680 Tucker Carlson's biological stepfather.

00:02:29.640 And I just want to say, I love Donald Trump.

00:02:31.800 I really respect that he's going to protect big booty Latinas by not deporting housekeepers.

00:02:36.000 So I love that.

00:02:37.380 And we must protect them at all costs.

00:02:39.740 And yeah, that's me.

00:02:41.400 And we also have Matan, Evan, guys.

00:02:43.220 I would just like the security to be careful because I believe that man is gay.

00:02:49.480 I agree.

00:02:50.920 He keeps denying it, but he may or may not have told me in the room over there that he had sex with a dog.

00:02:57.260 It was a hypothetical thing.

00:02:58.740 I was asking.

00:02:59.460 I'm not claiming he did it.

00:03:00.820 Is it gay to have sex with a dog?

00:03:02.720 It's a whole nother problem.

00:03:05.620 Was the dog a guy?

00:03:06.740 Bad habit.

00:03:07.380 Was it a male dog?

00:03:10.280 He won't do it.

00:03:12.080 Mr. Grumpy Pants over here.

00:03:13.660 I'm here to talk about Trump.

00:03:15.200 Not about fucking dogs.

00:03:16.460 It's telling, I think, that you guys need to distract everything and make it about fucking dogs and fucking buttholes.

00:03:21.520 But we're here to talk about Trump fucking up the country.

00:03:24.440 Okay, how's he fucking up the country?

00:03:26.020 Yeah, well, let's start with Epstein.

00:03:27.340 Why isn't he releasing the files?

00:03:28.520 Well, why didn't Biden release the files?

00:03:29.800 Why isn't he releasing the files?

00:03:30.980 He promised he would do it.

00:03:32.480 People like fucking J.D. Vance said that they would do it.

00:03:35.380 It was a campaign issue, and he's fucking it all up, isn't he?

00:03:37.720 Yes or no?

00:03:38.620 Yes or no?

00:03:39.820 Well, I do think that the phase one binders was not good, but we have to be patient because you know that there is a deep state.

00:03:45.400 You know, he can't just release it without going through this stuff.

00:03:47.540 Give me a break.

00:03:48.160 He put these people in charge.

00:03:49.340 He put in his own people, Dan Bongino, deputy director of FBI.

00:03:52.760 He put in Cash Patel, these fucking crazies who promised they would release these files, and they're not doing it.

00:03:57.240 And they're going and they're talking now about, like, floating a pardon for Maxwell?

00:04:01.320 Are you shitting me?

00:04:02.260 And now you're going to tell us.

00:04:03.180 I bet you.

00:04:04.060 As soon as he pardons Maxwell, you guys are going to defend it because you're shills, and you don't want to actually break up the relationship with the White House.

00:04:09.600 Nobody's going to defend the pardoning of Ghislaine Maxwell.

00:04:11.780 Then why is he floating it?

00:04:13.160 Why is he doing it with his defense attorney?

00:04:14.900 If you really actually look at this, though, I think we can estimate, and I don't know this for sure, but that this is classified levels of information that we're not allowed to know.

00:04:21.840 Oh, shit.

00:04:22.580 You didn't care about that during the election?

00:04:24.380 It shouldn't matter now.

00:04:25.400 You guys really going to accept, oh, it's classified?

00:04:27.460 It's classified?

00:04:28.340 Is that a good excuse?

00:04:28.960 I want it released.

00:04:30.600 Let me ask you this.

00:04:32.680 If Ghislaine Maxwell has information that could lead to the arrest of Epstein co-conspirators, should they interview her?

00:04:38.280 Absolutely.

00:04:39.140 But what if she says, I will give up all this information, but I want immunity?

00:04:43.060 Listen, I think that people are, yeah, the left is kind of over getting crazy about the queen of the day immunity stuff.

00:04:49.540 I'm okay with giving temporary immunity if it leads to indictments down the line.

00:04:54.320 The problem is you can't trust this White House that they're not cooking some deal with Maxwell right now.

00:04:59.220 You couldn't trust them when they said, we have the files, they're on my desk, and then it's, oh, the files don't exist.

00:05:03.740 And then finally, they were made by Obama.

00:05:05.580 No one, not even the most credulous member of this audience, believes that Obama made the fucking Epstein files.

00:05:10.040 Give me a break.

00:05:10.860 So we don't trust the administration.

00:05:12.000 They have no credibility.

00:05:13.300 That's not true.

00:05:13.720 I believe it.

00:05:15.340 Should Pam Bonney resign, yes or no, across the board?

00:05:17.880 I believe Obama made the files.

00:05:19.420 Should Pam Bonney resign?

00:05:20.800 You said something else.

00:05:22.080 Should Pam Bonney resign?

00:05:23.200 I don't even understand what you're asking me because I'm on the left topic.

00:05:26.220 I think she should be fired.

00:05:27.360 She should be fired.

00:05:28.080 Pam Bonney should be fired?

00:05:29.400 I mean, I think so, yeah.

00:05:30.220 Do you think that Pam Bonney should be fired?

00:05:32.240 Well, I don't, hey, but I don't like that Pam Bonney was the attorney general of Florida when Epstein, when Epstein said to stop.

00:05:37.020 They're scared.

00:05:37.440 They're scared to criticize Pam Bonney.

00:05:38.920 They know she fucked up.

00:05:39.920 I'm not scared.

00:05:40.260 I'm not scared.

00:05:40.800 Well, hold on, hold on.

00:05:42.000 Wait, wait, wait, wait, Pisco, Pisco, Pisco.

00:05:43.080 Of all of the issues to bring up first, this is the one that's actually divisive among the Trump supporters.

00:05:48.060 Well, this is why.

00:05:48.900 Yeah, that is true.

00:05:49.860 Hey, Pisco, answer this.

00:05:51.620 At least, at least Trump supporters are actually holding our own accountable.

00:05:55.100 I don't think so.

00:05:55.840 There's a huge split.

00:05:56.820 I don't think so.

00:05:57.240 Pisco, there's a huge split within the conservative party.

00:05:59.420 Trump is in the Epstein files.

00:06:01.640 You got us.

00:06:02.580 Okay.

00:06:03.380 All right.

00:06:03.760 Why are you jerking off the second our guy does one bad thing?

00:06:08.000 It's like you caught your dad farting and you won't shut up about it.

00:06:10.860 He did one bad thing.

00:06:11.540 Do you mean, when you say he did one bad thing, do you mean covering up a pedophile ring?

00:06:16.820 Is that what you mean by one bad thing?

00:06:18.080 First of all, we were never big on Epstein.

00:06:20.940 You were never big on Epstein.

00:06:21.680 It's a bunch of guys fucking 17-year-olds.

00:06:24.220 We were never big on Epstein.

00:06:25.040 Motley Crue fucked 17-year-olds.

00:06:26.820 I don't think Trump fucked 17-year-olds.

00:06:29.300 I think he was ejected in the Epstein files.

00:06:31.280 Then why is he lying?

00:06:31.840 So he's changing it because he doesn't want to get out there.

00:06:34.600 Is he lying?

00:06:34.920 Because it's very embarrassing.

00:06:36.580 Is he lying?

00:06:37.020 You got us.

00:06:37.860 Is he lying, Gavin?

00:06:38.540 You got us.

00:06:39.200 Is he lying?

00:06:39.920 Yes.

00:06:40.360 Yes, he's lying.

00:06:41.020 It's a lie.

00:06:42.100 You're going to trust this administration.

00:06:42.900 We thought the Epstein files would fuck you, and then we saw you put us in it.

00:06:46.940 So you never really cared about it.

00:06:47.380 So now we don't want him out.

00:06:48.580 So you never really cared about it.

00:06:49.680 You win this tiny little battle.

00:06:51.420 So we can't actually trust this administration on the most important issues, right?

00:06:55.500 Is there a cabal?

00:06:56.320 Ork and lie.com.

00:06:58.120 Is there a cabal?

00:06:58.860 And you caught me fucking up once.

00:07:01.300 It's like January 6th.

00:07:02.700 We fuck up once in 100 years.

00:07:05.180 All you do is fuck up.

00:07:06.260 And now Gavin says.

00:07:06.840 January 6th!

00:07:07.600 January 6th!

00:07:08.620 I didn't bring up January 6th.

00:07:09.820 You brought up January 6th.

00:07:10.840 Well, he organized January 6th.

00:07:13.420 Let's not get super excited.

00:07:16.140 This is an issue that is divisive among the Trump's base.

00:07:20.520 And it's where you actually can see a split.

00:07:22.880 A lot of people are upset the way he's handling it.

00:07:24.920 There are many people who back Trump who now believe that he may be involved.

00:07:28.320 There's a lot of conservatarians we call them.

00:07:29.900 They're like libertarian conservative leaning.

00:07:31.180 What do you believe, Tim?

00:07:31.900 Who believe?

00:07:32.300 I think Trump is likely involved in some way in the Epstein files.

00:07:36.160 To what degree?

00:07:36.680 I honestly don't know.

00:07:37.640 I believe.

00:07:38.040 Should Biden be fired?

00:07:39.520 Should who be fired?

00:07:40.200 Should Pam Bondi be fired?

00:07:42.260 To be honest, it's a very specific question related to an administration for which I don't

00:07:46.020 have enough information on the Epstein files themselves.

00:07:47.820 Yeah, because you have to build up your credibility with the White House because ultimately you

00:07:51.380 rely on those relationships.

00:07:52.920 And so you're not going to come out and say what Pam Bondi did.

00:07:54.920 Can you at least admit she blew it?

00:07:56.500 She blew it.

00:07:56.980 Of course she did.

00:07:58.320 Of course she did.

00:07:58.720 I think everybody agrees that she was fired for that fuck-up.

00:08:02.440 Because, listen, listen.

00:08:04.340 Yeah.

00:08:04.880 If we're being honest about what Pam Bondi has done, it is a political question.

00:08:10.220 It is an HR question of whether she is being effective.

00:08:13.840 My personal opinion is she's not, but I don't know what else is going on.

00:08:17.080 And so you're asking me about a hiring and firing decision of which someone I'm disappointed in

00:08:21.060 who's fucked up really bad.

00:08:22.180 She's not doing the job.

00:08:23.220 Her job right now is running, just like Tulsi Gabbard, just like Dan Bongino, is to

00:08:27.000 go on Fox News and yap all day.

00:08:28.820 Is she enforcing the fucking law?

00:08:30.560 No, she's not.

00:08:32.120 She's doing her makeup and she's going on Fox News.

00:08:34.360 That's her job right now and running cover now.

00:08:36.220 That's why Tulsi is putting in, you know, Obama gate, the Obama files.

00:08:39.220 No one believes it.

00:08:40.100 It's one distraction after another.

00:08:41.780 They're going to release you the MLK files.

00:08:43.680 Like, anyone's going to be distracted.

00:08:45.040 They're going to give this, like, bullshit theory about the Obama gate and the Obama files.

00:08:48.220 Like, that's going to distract anybody.

00:08:49.380 So what's bullshit about that?

00:08:51.220 About what?

00:08:51.740 The MLK files?

00:08:52.520 The Obama files.

00:08:53.400 Well, okay.

00:08:54.300 So the Obama file narrative is bullshit because there is no contradiction between the allegation

00:08:59.960 made by Obama in, or sorry, the IC community.

00:09:02.580 I think we need to support Trump even if he's Epstein because he's the only one trying to

00:09:08.800 save the country.

00:09:09.520 You're sitting there.

00:09:10.240 That's your priority.

00:09:11.440 He just said we should support.

00:09:12.720 The great right hope.

00:09:13.520 He just said we should.

00:09:15.200 You guys laughed it off as a joke.

00:09:16.880 You laughed it off as a joke.

00:09:17.180 You're not offering anything real.

00:09:19.420 You guys are no fun.

00:09:19.940 You're just talking.

00:09:20.540 You guys are so unfun.

00:09:21.640 You're so upset all the time.

00:09:23.460 He's gay.

00:09:24.600 This is why we're winning.

00:09:26.040 So now what they're saying is, this is all just a joke to them.

00:09:28.120 They don't actually care.

00:09:29.180 It's not serious to them.

00:09:30.220 The Epstein issue, it's all just serious to you.

00:09:32.520 It's all means.

00:09:32.640 We're over it.

00:09:33.640 When they try to sell it to you, they try to sell it to you for years and years, they

00:09:37.220 don't think much of you as an audience.

00:09:38.820 They basically think that you're sheep, that you'll follow them.

00:09:40.960 Well, to be fair, that's not what I think.

00:09:42.400 To be fair, I literally can't see anybody right now.

00:09:44.320 No, no, no.

00:09:45.360 I'm not a pedantic worrywart that I hate everyone in the room.

00:09:48.720 It's pedantry.

00:09:49.520 What the fuck are we talking about?

00:09:50.140 It's pedantry to focus on Epstein.

00:09:51.860 That's what these guys are trying to sell to you.

00:09:53.140 That's not what we're selling at all.

00:09:54.600 That's not what we're selling at all.

00:09:56.200 It's a win.

00:09:56.760 It's a huge win.

00:09:57.500 Move on.

00:09:57.940 Yeah, okay.

00:09:58.560 So other aspects of Trump.

00:09:59.500 Do you want to move on from Epstein?

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00:10:30.420 Well, I want to talk about the Obama stuff.

00:10:32.900 I'm happy to move on from Epstein.

00:10:34.020 So let me start with this.

00:10:36.880 And we need a beer for Gavin.

00:10:38.260 Can we get a...

00:10:38.660 Well, I don't...

00:10:39.540 Let's start here real quick for Pisco.

00:10:41.560 Yeah.

00:10:42.000 The September 18th, 2020, ICA stated that Obama ordered Brennan to release raw intelligence

00:10:49.780 that was not up to their standards for release, as they found it to be highly dubious.

00:10:53.660 The predicate for the narrative that Vladimir Putin wanted Trump to win was a sentence fragment.

00:11:00.620 It was incomplete.

00:11:01.800 And five different analysts read it five different ways.

00:11:04.160 That's verbatim from...

00:11:05.460 That's false.

00:11:06.080 That's from the file.

00:11:06.580 Read the Mueller report.

00:11:07.540 Read all of the...

00:11:08.100 Okay, wait, wait, wait.

00:11:08.560 Hold on, hold on.

00:11:08.860 Read, read, excuse me.

00:11:11.080 You can boo.

00:11:12.220 You can boo.

00:11:13.480 You can boo.

00:11:14.620 You can boo all you want.

00:11:16.920 Robert...

00:11:17.520 You can boo all you want.

00:11:19.180 Robert Mueller.

00:11:20.400 John...

00:11:21.080 Hey, guys, chill, chill, chill.

00:11:23.100 Robert Mueller.

00:11:23.700 You guys are going to get your chance.

00:11:24.440 John Durham.

00:11:24.920 Who's John Durham?

00:11:25.780 John Durham is a special counsel appointed by Bill Barr, by your fucking daddy, by Trump.

00:11:30.460 Yeah, John Durham is a traitor.

00:11:31.760 Any...

00:11:32.140 This is...

00:11:32.780 Oh, so hold on.

00:11:33.360 This is conspiratorial...

00:11:34.500 Pisco, Pisco.

00:11:34.860 Yeah, go for it.

00:11:35.200 So, is your argument that you are choosing to weigh the word over one man over another

00:11:39.440 man?

00:11:40.120 I'm weighing the evidence, right?

00:11:41.580 What is the evidence?

00:11:41.860 Okay, so hold on, hold on.

00:11:42.740 So, I'll weigh the evidence.

00:11:43.360 So, one piece of evidence that you have to deal with is the following.

00:11:46.280 That after the story of Grab them by the Pussy, the Access Hollywood tape, you guys remember

00:11:50.820 that shit?

00:11:51.500 Yeah, that was horrible.

00:11:52.980 Oh, my God.

00:11:53.600 An hour or so later...

00:11:54.780 I'm tossing and turning still.

00:11:55.560 An hour or so later, WikiLeaks, WikiLeaks in coordination with the IRA and the GRU, release

00:12:00.960 a bunch of materials, just coincidentally, the hour after.

00:12:03.960 We have actual, like, records of these members of the Russian intelligence saying we prefer

00:12:08.100 Trump or Hillary.

00:12:09.480 We got a fact question here.

00:12:10.960 You said in lead with the IRA and the GRU?

00:12:13.480 The Internet Research Agency.

00:12:15.120 Have you heard of it?

00:12:15.840 What's...

00:12:16.380 I'm asking you...

00:12:17.000 Have you heard of the Internet Research Agency, yes or no?

00:12:18.760 Okay.

00:12:19.120 I'm asking you on that point, because I understand you're making the connection to Russia.

00:12:22.540 And the GRU, I said, as well.

00:12:23.980 Agreed.

00:12:24.620 What was the...

00:12:25.960 So, WikiLeaks has never stated where they got the information from?

00:12:29.620 Yeah, they're lying.

00:12:30.320 I mean, they're liars.

00:12:31.060 But we have the actual communications between the...

00:12:33.240 I'm not saying you're wrong.

00:12:34.040 We have communication between...

00:12:35.080 Right, right.

00:12:35.360 Okay, just real quick.

00:12:36.860 Okay, cool.

00:12:37.280 I'm right, yeah.

00:12:37.840 The point I'm bringing up is that with conflicting sources, I am not making an assertion of which

00:12:42.280 is right or wrong.

00:12:43.360 I'm just saying you've opted for one source over the other.

00:12:45.660 I've opted for the actual evidence, and you haven't contested it, right?

00:12:48.880 Like, here's a piece of evidence.

00:12:50.060 Well, I am.

00:12:50.460 I am contesting it.

00:12:51.540 Okay, so do you contest the factual...

00:12:54.220 I'm saying that there are different arguments as to where WikiLeaks got the information from,

00:13:00.740 and some trust one and some trust another.

00:13:02.460 And I'm not telling you you're wrong.

00:13:04.040 I'm saying your argument is predicated upon one side of that argument.

00:13:09.080 And that's okay.

00:13:09.740 I'm not telling you it means you're wrong.

00:13:10.780 I'm saying it's an important distinction for the audience.

00:13:12.200 Okay, the other side of that argument is what?

00:13:13.980 What's the evidence that Russia preferred Clinton?

00:13:16.960 Do you have any evidence for that?

00:13:17.760 That was in the 2020 ICA, it was, yes.

00:13:20.400 No, I mean, no, the ICA was clear, as was the Mueller report.

00:13:24.000 There's two ICAs.

00:13:25.460 That's why I said 2020.

00:13:26.540 The 2017 one, the...

00:13:28.120 Right, the 2021 said that...

00:13:29.480 The Senate Intelligence Committee, the House, led by Marco Rubio, Devin Nunes led one,

00:13:34.940 they all come to the same conclusion.

00:13:36.420 And now you're, by the way, you're relitigating this, even though it's already been established,

00:13:40.140 even though in Tulsi Gabbard's own statement, she's acknowledging that the Russians are at least

00:13:43.320 interfering.

00:13:43.700 Will you at least acknowledge now that Russia interfered in our election in 2016?

00:13:47.140 I think that to an irrelevant degree.

00:13:48.640 Okay, you can say it's irrelevant, but people actually contested this for a long time.

00:13:51.680 Putin would actually prefer Hillary because Putin wants chaos, and Hillary would be bad

00:13:55.020 for America, and that's what he wants.

00:13:56.480 Okay.

00:13:56.820 So the 2020 ICA pointed out that Hillary was sick, and there were some analysts that believed

00:14:01.360 having a sickly coughing...

00:14:03.780 So Hillary, of course, was on some medication, they said she had pneumonia, she collapsed

00:14:07.040 outside of the World Trade Center memorial event, and one of the arguments, this is from

00:14:12.200 the ICA report, Putin wanted her because she was unstable and was concerned about an aggressive

00:14:17.680 Trump.

00:14:18.080 But we don't know because the initial raw intelligence in 2016 was a sentence fragment

00:14:22.220 that Obama determined, despite not meeting the standards of the intelligence community, would

00:14:27.280 be published anyway, for which, over the objections of members of the ICA.

00:14:31.960 Yeah, no, so you're pointing to a particular subset of evidence.

00:14:35.420 I agree, I am.

00:14:36.380 And I'm not saying one's right over the other, but you are choosing one is correct and ignoring

00:14:40.020 the evidence.

00:14:40.660 So I'm choosing, if we're just doing this based on who do you trust, right?

00:14:43.420 So you're trusting to, I don't know, Russia over John Durham, over Robert Mueller, over

00:14:48.380 the overall conclusion of the State Department.

00:14:51.420 The 2020 ICA was the United States.

00:14:53.140 And all the actual evidence.

00:14:53.740 And it's all to distract from Epstein.

00:14:55.120 There are two Intelligence Committee assessments.

00:14:56.160 And so now we're re-litigating the 2016 election instead of talking about Epstein, because that's

00:15:00.280 what Trump wants you to do.

00:15:01.500 And those are your marching orders.

00:15:02.780 I mean, like, I'm happy to move on from Epstein, if we can just acknowledge it's uncomfortable

00:15:06.460 to continue talking about it.

00:15:07.340 Will you at least concede that you look like Adrian Tomine, who was locked in an Arby's for

00:15:12.520 three months?

00:15:12.660 I don't know who that is.

00:15:14.180 I don't know who that is.

00:15:15.240 Okay.

00:15:15.640 It's all memes to them.

00:15:16.600 It's all memes to them.

00:15:16.880 Admit it, Pisco.

00:15:17.780 It's all memes to them.

00:15:18.600 I mean, like, this is your country.

00:15:20.560 Can I ask you a question?

00:15:21.520 Do you like Mike Pence?

00:15:23.380 Do I like him?

00:15:23.980 No, I don't like Mike Pence.

00:15:24.440 Okay, so we're in agreement.

00:15:25.380 I don't think Trump is winning until Mike Pence.

00:15:27.680 How about that?

00:15:32.100 I can't see anybody.

00:15:33.400 Trump appointed him.

00:15:34.020 I can't see anybody because of the lights here, but I would like to see a raise of hands.

00:15:38.020 Who thinks Mike Pence should?

00:15:39.760 I didn't say that.

00:15:43.980 I think proof that we're winning is this event.

00:15:47.920 What, Game of Thrones?

00:15:48.580 It was a reference to Game of Thrones.

00:15:49.640 They shut it down, and then everyone who wanted to see this said, don't shut it down, and

00:15:54.600 we had it back.

00:15:55.200 I've never seen that happen before.

00:15:57.040 Yeah, so guys, give yourselves a round of applause for being here.

00:16:00.180 They tried to shut it down.

00:16:02.080 They brought it back up.

00:16:03.220 Let me say this, because it's a side question of the question of what Trump's administration

00:16:07.820 is capable of, but in the culture war, I think it is fair to say perhaps we haven't

00:16:11.960 won, but we have an insurmountable advantage on this battlefield, with an example being

00:16:16.760 after the event was pulled, I got on the phone with Alex Stein screaming that they got

00:16:21.180 us, they got us, and Alex said, we'll never get the show back, and then the next day

00:16:24.700 within less than 12 hours, we got the show back, all three of them.

00:16:27.560 That's because of you guys.

00:16:29.180 Thank you.

00:16:29.780 But, you know, we were talking about this, and we did an event in, I think it was, I

00:16:36.100 don't remember, Sean, it was 2019 maybe, and far leftists threatened to burn down the theater

00:16:41.140 in Pittman, New Jersey, and so the guy, even though we had the venue booked for nine months

00:16:46.220 and a contract, canceled on us, and told us to go fuck ourselves, and we were actually

00:16:49.980 pretty shocked, because like, okay, you want to face a lawsuit?

00:16:52.180 And he goes, fuck you, sue me, and we were like, damn.

00:16:54.800 The issue was, there was a genuine fear that you will be murdered by the far left.

00:17:00.020 And they will destroy your life, take your home.

00:17:02.480 They can stand in front of your house with firebombs, and nothing can be done about it.

00:17:05.840 You can't defend yourself with a weapon in New Jersey.

00:17:08.380 But now the sentiment has shifted to where we're seeing Colbert get canceled.

00:17:12.920 We're seeing, you know, we call it the Bud Light effect.

00:17:15.900 Culturally, whether, and again, this is a side issue to a little Trump thing, culturally,

00:17:19.680 I think we own the battlefield right now.

00:17:21.200 And I think that you guys are making excuses for how Trump is using the authoritarian powers

00:17:26.080 of the state to contribute to that culture war.

00:17:28.400 So for example, Trump is now like putting conditions on the curriculum of Colombia to

00:17:35.460 be more pro-Israel.

00:17:36.260 Do you guys agree with that?

00:17:37.860 What are the conditions?

00:17:39.060 So the conditions, for example, that they need to check to make sure that everyone is,

00:17:42.600 you know, not treating Israel differently than they would treat other countries, making

00:17:47.100 sure there's no anti-Semitism curriculum, which, you know, who's going to decide that?

00:17:50.580 They were beating the shit out of Jewish students, harassing them.

00:17:53.620 They were attacking janitors.

00:17:55.240 So you're acknowledging that you agree with the government getting in there and deciding

00:17:57.680 what's fit for the curriculum of Colombia.

00:17:59.700 They're taking government money, they're taking government money, and Jewish kids are

00:18:04.200 getting harassed and having to lock themselves in rooms to avoid getting attacked.

00:18:07.680 So you're okay with it?

00:18:07.700 Yeah, I'm fucking sick.

00:18:08.500 It's sick that Trump is going in there and making all the curriculum war pro-Israel.

00:18:11.180 Yes or no?

00:18:11.820 Do you agree with that?

00:18:12.500 You can't have my money if you support terrorism.

00:18:14.500 If you're not pro-Israel.

00:18:15.480 If you're not pro-Israel, right?

00:18:16.360 Is that right?

00:18:16.700 Is that right?

00:18:17.380 Is that right?

00:18:19.280 You can't get the money unless you're pro-Israel.

00:18:20.700 Stop that, gay.

00:18:21.260 I have to phrase it your way and you go, is that right?

00:18:24.180 You won't answer.

00:18:25.260 This is like college shit.

00:18:26.720 What Gavin wants is everyone to be pro-Israel.

00:18:29.760 Pisco, I'm going to answer you.

00:18:30.860 I'm going to answer you.

00:18:32.440 I don't think anybody should be forced to be pro-Israel.

00:18:35.340 But if the question is, like, an institution is discriminating against a group based on race

00:18:39.760 or ethnicity, then the government should intervene to stop that.

00:18:42.240 Oh, really?

00:18:42.820 I mean, you kind of sound like the woke school.

00:18:43.940 Think of it as like a white power rally with all these tests.

00:18:46.620 Yeah, that's-

00:18:47.180 Saying blacks go home, all blacks need to-

00:18:49.500 You can't have government money if you do that on campus.

00:18:52.440 So this is the same-

00:18:53.080 That's what that was.

00:18:53.540 This is the same argument.

00:18:54.620 People were talking about-

00:18:55.300 My position has never changed on this.

00:18:56.500 Cancel culture and free speech on campus when, like, schools are restricting because they

00:19:00.720 went too far.

00:19:01.520 I agree with that.

00:19:02.020 In terms of-

00:19:02.580 I want to pause.

00:19:03.840 In terms of being woke-

00:19:04.280 Pisco, Pisco, Pisco, I could not appreciate his honesty more that what you have always

00:19:11.440 supported and what we have always opposed was the use of violence against ideas you did

00:19:15.180 not like.

00:19:16.240 So when I see, you know, far leftists showing up-

00:19:18.740 We got protesters outside right now.

00:19:20.480 Like, five.

00:19:21.420 Threatening-

00:19:21.480 Threatening-

00:19:21.540 They should be arrested.

00:19:22.080 No, it's bigger than that.

00:19:22.700 There's two groups.

00:19:23.660 Oh, now there is a-

00:19:24.480 Put them in jail.

00:19:24.840 When leftists threaten to murder me and my family, and they do, that's a problem.

00:19:30.240 They do murder you and your family?

00:19:31.400 Threaten to.

00:19:32.040 Oh, okay.

00:19:32.340 Wait, Tim, I totally agree.

00:19:33.200 They should unburn the Tesla.

00:19:34.420 They should unburn the Waymos.

00:19:35.440 I don't agree with that shit.

00:19:36.520 I mean, I'm not in favor of violence.

00:19:38.100 So if there are people at a university and they're targeting any racial group or ethnic

00:19:41.920 group, it is the job, in my opinion, of government to be like, hey, our law enforcement

00:19:46.440 will not let you do this.

00:19:47.780 Yeah, enforce the law.

00:19:48.400 That doesn't mean you need to put speech codes in every fucking university.

00:19:51.300 Enforce the law.

00:19:52.060 There's not speech codes, bro.

00:19:53.600 We have laws against harassment.

00:19:54.780 They did not enforce the law.

00:19:56.740 Have you read the letter to Harvard?

00:19:57.880 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on.

00:19:59.340 Please go.

00:19:59.660 They beat the shit out of the janitors.

00:20:01.060 Hold on, hold on.

00:20:01.900 I just realized something.

00:20:03.560 Just like those Jan-6 boys.

00:20:04.040 I just realized something.

00:20:05.000 What does Jan-6 boys do?

00:20:05.900 They beat up police officers, didn't they?

00:20:07.340 That's a myth, you fool.

00:20:08.540 Oh, it's a myth.

00:20:09.420 Yeah, it's a myth that they attack fucking who died.

00:20:11.900 Ashley Babbitt.

00:20:12.620 You know who died that day when he died?

00:20:14.640 Conservatives died.

00:20:15.780 No, no, no.

00:20:16.420 I didn't say-

00:20:16.880 No officers were beaten that day.

00:20:19.120 No officers died that day?

00:20:21.140 That's all a lie.

00:20:22.280 So just to be clear, so it's a lie that you saw with your own eyes cops being beaten by

00:20:26.240 Jan-6 terrorists.

00:20:27.200 And he's saying, so I didn't say die, I didn't say kill.

00:20:29.800 Okay, okay, all right.

00:20:30.280 So right now you're defending the terrorist scum who attacked cops on Jan-6.

00:20:34.500 Terrorist scum, really?

00:20:35.720 And I can tell that it hit a nerve.

00:20:36.780 Guys, I'm considering ending the show.

00:20:39.800 Why?

00:20:40.260 Because Pisco admitted Trump is winning on the Columbia issue.

00:20:42.740 Why is he winning?

00:20:43.660 You think he's winning?

00:20:44.560 You literally just said that Trump is imposing these restrictions and forcing his will on

00:20:48.780 the university.

00:20:49.280 So is Trump winning?

00:20:49.840 Yes.

00:20:50.160 Thank you, and have a nice day, everybody.

00:20:51.260 I think that campus lefties definitely went too far.

00:20:56.520 And I was writing in my newspaper saying, let kids wear sombreros.

00:21:01.960 I'm Hispanic, and people called me like an Uncle Jose because I was like, I don't care

00:21:05.680 about ponchos.

00:21:06.820 I don't care about sombreros.

00:21:08.540 I'm cool with all this shit.

00:21:09.980 But what we're talking about something different is the government stepping in and saying, hey,

00:21:13.500 have you read that letter to Harvard, by the way, where you have to have a monitor

00:21:16.300 to check whether there's anti-Semitism?

00:21:17.940 This is literally campus police, and you guys should care about it if you care about free

00:21:21.520 speech.

00:21:21.760 Yeah, I think that's dumb.

00:21:22.580 Yeah, it's dumb.

00:21:23.320 I don't like the idea that, I think it is fair to say that while there is a surface-level

00:21:29.580 principled argument on, you shouldn't run a university that targets any group of students

00:21:34.220 based on their race or ethnicity, it is pretty obvious the State Department was pulling visas

00:21:38.260 from people critical of his research.

00:21:39.300 100% they were, and they were doing it in Mahmoud Khalil, and did you support Mahmoud Khalil?

00:21:42.760 In that conversation, you were a little waving.

00:21:44.320 I don't, do I support him in what capacity?

00:21:47.100 In the sense of, he should not have his green card taken away because of his statements.

00:21:50.900 Well, you understand, you guys are done with free speech.

00:21:53.720 Like, you made me into a hypocrite.

00:21:55.960 I want leftist bans canceled.

00:21:58.120 I want leftist shows canceled.

00:22:00.160 You cancel our shows, I want your fucking shows canceled.

00:22:03.160 You monitor our speech, I want your speech monitored.

00:22:05.640 I want revenge.

00:22:06.720 Do you guys really buy this?

00:22:07.660 Yeah, exactly.

00:22:08.040 I'm done with altruism.

00:22:09.760 I'm a hypocrite now because of you.

00:22:12.040 You guys opened the Pandora's box of censorship, so now I want you censored.

00:22:15.600 And so now Israel controls everything.

00:22:16.960 So now Israel controls everything.

00:22:17.520 I don't want you talking.

00:22:18.260 Yeah.

00:22:18.720 I want you censored.

00:22:19.760 So now Israel controls everything.

00:22:21.700 I mean, okay, but come on, come on.

00:22:23.180 Wait, wait, wait.

00:22:23.800 Blaming Israel?

00:22:24.420 I don't know why you're talking about Israel now.

00:22:25.540 Well, because the speech codes and the speech, I don't know if you want to call them codes.

00:22:29.020 Yeah, it's almost impossible to be anti-Semitic on campuses these days.

00:22:32.900 Hang on.

00:22:33.240 Do you think that anti-Semitism is protected speech, should be protected speech in this country?

00:22:37.180 Yes.

00:22:38.020 There is nothing that prospers more in America than anti-Semitism.

00:22:43.760 You can go anywhere.

00:22:45.060 It's the cool thing to do with young people.

00:22:47.380 Should it be legal?

00:22:47.980 And they all wear kafiyas.

00:22:49.500 We got Muslims outside that are mad at Tim.

00:22:51.900 I don't even know why.

00:22:52.800 Yeah, I don't know why.

00:22:53.160 He insulted Muhammad or something.

00:22:55.480 Should it be legal?

00:22:55.860 So I don't think that's a real problem with anti-Semitism being wiped out.

00:23:02.120 It's fucking everywhere, bro.

00:23:03.660 So he would throw you in jail for anti-Semitism.

00:23:05.560 It's the cool thing to do because it's anti-white.

00:23:06.660 And what are they going to define as anti-Semitism next if you oppose Israel's intervention in Gaza about anti-Semitism?

00:23:12.980 I will add, to Gavin's point, I don't know that I would go as hard with it the way he's describing it.

00:23:19.880 But we have talked about how my position on free speech has changed slightly in that in the 2010s, I would do this thing where I'm like,

00:23:28.280 look, I don't agree with what you say, but I'll defend to the death of your right to say it.

00:23:31.040 And then I realized something.

00:23:31.780 I'm done with that.

00:23:32.380 I was handing weapons to the people trying to destroy me, and so I said, revision.

00:23:38.280 I will defend your right to speak so long as you agree with my right to speak.

00:23:41.940 But if you are a communist or Marxist or fundamentalist who wants to strip rights from other people, I will not defend you in any sense.

00:23:48.020 The problem of the First Amendment is I think it is often conceived as an individual right.

00:23:52.100 And I think that it should be better thought as a restriction on the power of government.

00:23:56.440 What does the First Amendment say?

00:23:58.060 Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech.

00:24:00.560 And so when you make the right of free speech contingent on how other people treat your right, I think you're missing the point of the First Amendment,

00:24:06.800 which is saying that we don't trust the elites.

00:24:08.940 We don't trust the government shills to decide for themselves what is anti-Semitic, what's fit for consumption, and what's not,

00:24:14.720 except for in narrow categories of things like illegal pornography, things like harassment, things like defamation.

00:24:21.620 Those categories are historical exceptions, but broadly we don't trust the government with that.

00:24:24.720 So let's agree on the fact that Trump is winning in that regard.

00:24:27.740 Sounds nice in an ideal world.

00:24:29.040 Trump is getting through his agenda.

00:24:30.760 The universities are forced to do it.

00:24:32.460 He's taking money from these universities.

00:24:34.280 His will is being done.

00:24:34.920 Well, if he's successful at bad things, and that's your, like, gotcha?

00:24:37.320 Oh, he's doing really well at doing, like, authoritarians against first speech.

00:24:40.620 Okay, I guess he's successful at doing something like that.

00:24:42.060 But let's weigh that between what the left was doing versus what Trump is doing,

00:24:45.260 and I'm just like, oh, this whole game again.

00:24:47.180 So if the question is, is Trump winning in that regard, it's like, you don't have to agree with him, but he is winning.

00:24:51.380 Okay.

00:24:52.440 Right?

00:24:52.900 I mean, he's winning at doing something bad.

00:24:56.320 If that's your, like, semantic point.

00:24:57.160 Thank you for coming, everybody.

00:24:58.460 This has been The Culture of What Trump is...

00:24:59.460 Okay, here, here, so real quick, so let's go...

00:25:02.540 Hey, Sudi, can I get a beer?

00:25:03.500 I don't think they have Bud, but it says, like...

00:25:05.140 I'd love a beer, too.

00:25:05.920 Is there, like, a waitress?

00:25:07.320 Is there a waiter or waitress saying, well, drink a beer?

00:25:09.700 I would like a bottle of Hennessy.

00:25:11.020 How do we order one?

00:25:11.740 Let's segue to the hard issues, the hard facts.

00:25:15.260 Border security.

00:25:16.860 So Trump says zero, the reporting zero.

00:25:19.900 He even said, I don't believe that number's really low, but the border biometrics, it

00:25:23.600 does appear to be secure.

00:25:26.040 There is a possibility that this will be the first net negative migration month.

00:25:30.340 As an agenda item for the Trump voters and for the Trump administration, that is winning.

00:25:35.140 Yeah, so let's address the border, right?

00:25:36.700 I don't give Trump credit for doing, like, illegal shit to get the border numbers down.

00:25:40.560 Illegal shit?

00:25:41.240 Yeah, illegal shit.

00:25:42.320 Illegal shit.

00:25:43.000 So, for example, because...

00:25:44.020 Like, reporting illegals is illegal now?

00:25:45.940 No, no, no.

00:25:47.080 So I don't give credit.

00:25:49.040 I'll repeat it again.

00:25:49.840 You guys can tell you if you want.

00:25:50.960 I don't give credit for someone getting border numbers down, border crossings down by doing

00:25:55.140 illegal shit.

00:25:56.320 So, for example, illegal renditions without due process to see caught, that's illegal

00:26:02.560 shit.

00:26:03.160 Closing asylum down, as was found by a district court, I think, a couple weeks ago.

00:26:07.080 So, the same thing that Biden did, by the way, which I critique, I said it was impeachable

00:26:10.220 when Biden did it, in contravention of the asylum statutes and the Immigration Nationality

00:26:13.600 Act, that's illegal shit that he's doing.

00:26:16.420 So, the...

00:26:17.100 And there you see it.

00:26:17.720 There you see it.

00:26:18.180 If you disagree, they want to use the powers of the state against...

00:26:20.340 Bro, he's joking.

00:26:20.860 I know, I know.

00:26:21.420 But, like, it's just...

00:26:22.100 It's part of that.

00:26:22.900 It's part of that, like, I think, just classic authoritarian.

00:26:25.200 All right, well, look, I'll give you this.

00:26:26.160 I'll give him credit for that.

00:26:26.800 I'll give you this.

00:26:28.140 We're going to re-title...

00:26:29.860 No authoritarian jokes, please.

00:26:31.440 We're going to re-title the name of the show, too.

00:26:32.940 Is Trump winning legally?

00:26:34.220 That way we can keep going.

00:26:35.000 Otherwise, we all agree Trump won.

00:26:36.140 It's funny he says no authoritarian jokes when he literally wants to ban certain speech

00:26:39.400 he doesn't like on campus.

00:26:40.620 I mean, you act like you're the free speech guy.

00:26:42.440 That's total horseshit, you fucking liar.

00:26:44.080 Wait, you just said, I don't give a shit about free speech on campus, anti-Semitism.

00:26:47.620 You jumped over to campus, though.

00:26:49.060 We should stomp that out.

00:26:50.040 Why did it jump to campus?

00:26:51.740 Okay, so...

00:26:52.120 And why are you guys so concerned about fucking illegal aliens?

00:26:55.320 Like, your priorities are so backwards.

00:26:57.540 There's some pedophile out there who's fucking sex trafficking, and you go, we need due process.

00:27:03.140 He needs to go to court.

00:27:04.640 We have 30 million illegals.

00:27:06.320 Trump has supported like 14,000 or something.

00:27:08.940 I thought we got off that team.

00:27:09.340 Not even close to Obama number.

00:27:11.140 Will you shut up, please?

00:27:12.040 You can't talk shit about pedophiles anymore.

00:27:12.920 Will you shut the fuck up?

00:27:14.180 Why can't someone talk?

00:27:15.520 So you just granted...

00:27:16.420 Okay, well, let me make a point.

00:27:17.760 Welcome to the blabbermouth hour.

00:27:19.460 Yeah, I mean, like, you just granted there was a win for Trump on pedophile cover-up,

00:27:24.340 and now you're saying that, like, we're...

00:27:25.480 That's pedophiles.

00:27:26.080 16-year-olds is just gross.

00:27:32.120 Not according to Motley Crue and David Bowie.

00:27:34.500 So, okay, so hold on.

00:27:35.540 So, I mean, you agree that Trump got the number...

00:27:38.060 About fucking illegal aliens.

00:27:39.260 The illegal immigration number is down under Trump?

00:27:41.760 Yes, the number of crossings is down.

00:27:43.720 Oh, that's a victory for Trump.

00:27:44.960 That's a huge...

00:27:45.340 Yes, and he said that he's not going to deport hotel workers, so the big booty Latinas get

00:27:51.540 to stay.

00:27:51.920 Yeah, what do you guys think of that?

00:27:53.120 Amnesty.

00:27:53.580 He walked to bed.

00:27:54.680 I'm a four.

00:27:55.220 If you're a nine, you're fine.

00:27:56.700 We can't even take a chip out of the 12 million Biden let in.

00:28:00.520 That's as many as Ellis Island in its totality.

00:28:03.180 If he did 30,000 a day, we would not be able to take a chip out of the 42 million that are here.

00:28:09.500 To deport these people.

00:28:10.740 Are you okay with the legal crime?

00:28:11.280 When you're here illegally, there's no illegal...

00:28:13.040 Yes, is the answer, yes.

00:28:13.500 There's no due process.

00:28:14.440 Wait, wait.

00:28:14.620 When you're here illegally...

00:28:15.460 But there is.

00:28:17.180 There is.

00:28:17.480 There is, obviously.

00:28:18.240 Due process just means the process for which you are due.

00:28:20.360 Which, in the case of an illegal immigrant, is an expedited removal.

00:28:23.000 So you're okay with the...

00:28:23.640 They literally just arrest you and return you.

00:28:24.880 ...do an illegal action to deport people.

00:28:26.060 Is that right?

00:28:27.100 I hate that whole thing you do.

00:28:29.200 What?

00:28:29.700 You say it your way and then go, is that right?

00:28:31.720 You guys will get your chance.

00:28:32.780 So you're okay with children being raped.

00:28:34.160 Is that it?

00:28:34.500 You want children to get raped?

00:28:35.440 Is that what you're saying?

00:28:39.500 Isco, you're literally arguing that you want children to get raped?

00:28:42.280 I'm not arguing that.

00:28:43.240 Oh.

00:28:43.980 Well, I don't know why you keep asking about illegal actions.

00:28:46.140 People should be able to live their lives?

00:28:46.920 You don't think people should be able to live?

00:28:47.920 You think people should die?

00:28:48.980 You want people to die?

00:28:49.840 I just want to make that straight.

00:28:51.180 These people are weasley.

00:28:51.620 So you think people should die?

00:28:52.820 Okay, so people should die.

00:28:54.080 So say it with your chest.

00:28:55.380 Yeah, I don't give a fuck if the government does illegal shit.

00:28:57.020 I don't give a fuck about illegal aliens.

00:28:58.940 Get them out of here.

00:29:00.120 You don't give a fuck if the government does illegal shit.

00:29:03.000 Can I ask you a question?

00:29:04.940 Can I...

00:29:05.660 I just want an answer.

00:29:07.160 Yes or no.

00:29:07.820 That's it.

00:29:08.200 Just one word.

00:29:08.860 Did or did you not fuck up a dog?

00:29:13.320 Just a yes or no.

00:29:14.560 Can you not fuck up a dog?

00:29:16.600 How do you make love to a dog?

00:29:18.120 I get...

00:29:18.580 Well, that's my question.

00:29:21.900 Ow, stop.

00:29:22.900 I'm not into this.

00:29:24.060 You get all mad when people don't answer your questions, but you won't answer mine.

00:29:28.040 I think my questions are topical.

00:29:30.440 I think they're related to what we're here to discuss.

00:29:32.220 Okay, that's fine.

00:29:32.920 I don't agree.

00:29:33.480 I think your questions are not topical.

00:29:35.040 I think mine is topical.

00:29:36.620 Okay.

00:29:36.860 Why wouldn't you answer that question?

00:29:38.500 It should be really easy for most people.

00:29:39.960 It's not topical.

00:29:40.320 So you think it's okay to...

00:29:40.980 You think it's okay to...

00:29:41.980 Why would anybody refuse to answer that question?

00:29:44.640 So you like that.

00:29:45.100 So that's cool.

00:29:45.980 Immigration policy generally and whether or not you're...

00:29:48.240 No, no, no.

00:29:49.620 Hold on a minute.

00:29:50.720 I need an answer on that.

00:29:53.060 Immigration policy...

00:29:53.720 Hold on.

00:29:56.360 Hold on.

00:29:58.100 Immigration is...

00:29:59.000 Are we serious?

00:29:59.500 You guys brought up immigration and the issue of whether or not you're going to fuck a butthole...

00:30:04.500 Who in their right mind would refuse to answer that?

00:30:07.900 I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

00:30:09.440 He's acting guilty.

00:30:12.700 He's acting guilty.

00:30:13.880 Just like Trump and Epsi.

00:30:15.020 He's the best you got.

00:30:17.360 I'll give you the benefit.

00:30:18.680 Hold on.

00:30:19.320 Hold on.

00:30:19.940 The way that they're going to try to hide the cover-up of the Epsi files...

00:30:22.560 Guys, you're going to get your...

00:30:23.220 Hey, real quick, guys.

00:30:24.120 It's like when you guys scream sentences, we can't understand, we can't hear you.

00:30:26.900 If you put your name in the hat, you're going to be able to tell us whatever you want.

00:30:29.640 So try to, you know, that's how we're going to do it.

00:30:31.760 I got to stay on the top.

00:30:32.360 Hold on.

00:30:32.720 Hold on.

00:30:33.040 I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and assume that he didn't, but he's so annoying

00:30:37.140 that he just refuses to answer.

00:30:38.740 Now everybody here thinks he r***ed a dog.

00:30:41.260 Why don't you just say no?

00:30:42.840 This is the best you got.

00:30:44.140 Say no.

00:30:44.820 This is the best you got.

00:30:46.400 Just answer my question.

00:30:48.020 How old was the dog?

00:30:49.220 Wait, wait.

00:30:49.720 Are we going by dog years or it's actual age?

00:30:51.480 So we're here to discuss Trump.

00:30:55.040 No, the dog.

00:30:55.940 Now we're on the topic of the dog.

00:30:57.260 They can't defend it.

00:30:58.340 The topic has changed.

00:30:59.960 We've shipped sale, buddy.

00:31:01.340 They have to meme.

00:31:05.000 Just say no.

00:31:06.520 So I'm here to discuss whether Trump is fucking up.

00:31:10.880 He obviously is.

00:31:13.500 Just answer the question about the dog.

00:31:15.580 I do have an answer for Mattan.

00:31:17.120 You know, you're asking about Trump fucking up.

00:31:19.380 And I hear these liberals saying Trump is acting real guilty.

00:31:22.020 Fucking dogs.

00:31:22.540 And then when he asks you about a dog to make a point, you refuse to answer it.

00:31:25.360 You're sounding real guilty.

00:31:26.160 Hang on a second.

00:31:27.000 So what liberals are saying, what the left is saying with the Epstein files, is that he is covering shit up.

00:31:33.220 And we're saying that about the dog right now.

00:31:34.660 But that's topical to the president of the United States, that Trump is.

00:31:38.640 All right?

00:31:39.160 And that's based on his actual conduct.

00:31:41.420 There's a relevance in this room.

00:31:42.740 Everybody wants to know if their dog is safe, okay?

00:31:44.920 Yeah, so...

00:31:45.460 So please, go ahead and answer the question.

00:31:47.480 So I'm not going to just address your bullshit.

00:31:49.300 I'm not going to...

00:31:49.820 This is a conversation...

00:31:50.360 Everybody already told you that they thought Trump was lying about the Epstein stuff.

00:31:53.700 Yeah, and you're bringing it up.

00:31:54.960 What do you mean?

00:31:55.520 We all just told you we thought he was lying.

00:31:57.740 So you're bringing it up as a comparison.

00:31:59.300 You're saying...

00:31:59.520 I'm not bringing anything up as a comparison.

00:32:00.900 Can anyone imagine if the left went through the kind of scrutiny that the right goes through?

00:32:06.800 Can you imagine if conservative straight white males went through...

00:32:10.800 Or anyone but that group had to deal with the kind of scrutiny that group gets?

00:32:15.520 Like, if we fucking fart in the morning, these lefties are all over us.

00:32:21.520 If you cover that up, they're all over us.

00:32:23.140 They fucking destroyed this country since Obama.

00:32:26.280 They talk over you.

00:32:27.540 They won't shut the fuck up.

00:32:29.380 And we have to sit there.

00:32:31.460 Frustrating ourselves.

00:32:32.900 Begging for forgiveness for January 6th and the Epstein files.

00:32:37.000 When they keep destroying this fucking country with their communist fucking sabotage.

00:32:43.840 Communist sabotage.

00:32:44.760 Yeah.

00:32:45.220 That's what the left does.

00:32:47.020 All right, guys.

00:32:47.560 All right, Pisco, guys.

00:32:48.920 Put a pin in it.

00:32:49.980 Hey, hey, hey.

00:32:50.700 You're about to get your chance.

00:32:51.700 You get your name.

00:32:52.100 Hold on.

00:32:52.520 I have a question real quick.

00:32:53.480 If somebody's in the audience, do they get to get a mic and ask a question?

00:32:56.420 Yes, they do.

00:32:57.200 So what's going to happen, guys?

00:32:57.980 Hold on.

00:32:58.560 Can I ask a question?

00:32:59.480 Yes, you can ask a question.

00:33:00.660 Did you fuck that dog?

00:33:04.040 You can't sit here.

00:33:05.220 Everybody's going to answer the questions that they ask us.

00:33:07.440 You have to answer them, too.

00:33:08.860 You can't be the one odd man out.

00:33:11.860 Stop saying weird.

00:33:13.080 Just say fuck that dog.

00:33:14.700 No, it's...

00:33:15.400 How does the dog consent?

00:33:18.540 By the way, I don't think he did it.

00:33:19.900 I'm not accusing him.

00:33:20.720 I just think he's super prideful.

00:33:22.220 So it's funny because now he's all mad and like a little...

00:33:24.840 I mean, I think it's important to like talk about what we're here to talk about.

00:33:27.820 Yeah, but now everybody here thinks that you had to take the dog.

00:33:31.180 I think our country...

00:33:31.960 I'm going to take everything you said less seriously because I asked you as a joke, sort

00:33:35.320 of, and you won't even say you didn't.

00:33:37.640 So...

00:33:37.960 I know, Pisco, just say no and then we can move on.

00:33:40.060 I'm not going to address it.

00:33:40.860 I'm not going to...

00:33:41.400 I'm not going to...

00:33:41.740 You're too prideful.

00:33:42.320 Wait, wait, hold on.

00:33:42.880 Is there some truth to the dog?

00:33:44.680 I know that.

00:33:45.140 Now I'm starting to feel kind of weird.

00:33:46.660 This is really weird, man.

00:33:48.520 We said I'm not going to address that.

00:33:49.880 I'm not going to dignify that.

00:33:50.080 Address what?

00:33:50.480 You're not going to address that.

00:33:51.400 I'm not going to perjuring him.

00:33:52.440 I'm not going to address that or dignify it at all.

00:33:54.520 We're here to talk about Trump.

00:33:55.920 I did not know who you were before this.

00:33:57.720 Is there previous accusations about this?

00:34:00.300 I was...

00:34:00.880 Am I on a lucky streak?

00:34:04.540 All right, guys.

00:34:05.760 Well, you are here because you're going to have your chance to debate any of these people.

00:34:10.740 You can debate the libtard, Gavin, Timmy, or Matan.

00:34:14.060 I'm not a libtard.

00:34:14.280 So how it's going to work...

00:34:15.140 No, the guy next to you.

00:34:16.000 So we're going to pull names out.

00:34:17.500 Tim and I will pull names out.

00:34:18.760 You're going to need to go over there in that corner because that's where we have the camera.

00:34:22.060 That's where the microphone is.

00:34:23.200 You got one minute to take your hottest take on Trump.

00:34:26.500 And it doesn't necessarily have to be Trump.

00:34:28.300 We'll let you guys have a little...

00:34:29.180 I think we all know what the first question needs to be.

00:34:31.380 Yes, we do.

00:34:33.520 So with all that being said, let's call our first name.

00:34:36.840 Tim, you want to do it?

00:34:37.540 Just you pull the first name.

00:34:39.640 Okay.

00:34:40.120 All right.

00:34:40.780 Let's see.

00:34:42.380 Elizabeth Travis.

00:34:43.280 Come on down, Elizabeth.

00:34:46.000 Give it up for Elizabeth.

00:34:50.540 And so we can get through as many names as possible.

00:34:52.760 We got a sense of urgency.

00:34:54.480 Come on stage.

00:34:55.560 We got to go.

00:34:56.520 We're in a hurry.

00:34:57.340 So Elizabeth, go to the right.

00:34:58.520 Right there.

00:34:58.820 You see the guy with the microphone?

00:35:00.700 Right in the doorway, guys.

00:35:02.380 Right over here.

00:35:04.460 You got one minute.

00:35:05.800 All right, Elizabeth.

00:35:07.000 You got one freaking minute.

00:35:08.580 Where's my money, Matan?

00:35:12.760 You owe me money.

00:35:14.120 I'm your manager.

00:35:15.060 Okay.

00:35:15.700 He'll have to answer if you ask him that question.

00:35:17.860 No.

00:35:18.140 Where is her money, Matan?

00:35:19.920 I already told people online that I'm a scammer.

00:35:22.240 So if this is somebody I took money from, I don't have any...

00:35:26.120 I don't take blame.

00:35:27.920 I don't care.

00:35:28.300 I was told I'd get a monthly In-N-Out video of you trying it for the first time.

00:35:32.700 Well, I'm a scammer.

00:35:33.740 I don't know what to tell you.

00:35:34.940 If I promise something and I didn't deliver on it, then that's on you.

00:35:38.480 I don't know why you trust somebody who keeps telling you they're a scammer.

00:35:41.640 He has a point.

00:35:42.480 That is on you.

00:35:43.940 Did he f*** a dog?

00:35:46.040 Come on.

00:35:48.940 Are you just going to see you're like a little fat baby?

00:35:51.420 Just like thumping your feet?

00:35:52.840 I'm not going to address the actual issue here to discuss.

00:35:54.980 So if you have like a real question, I'm happy to answer it.

00:35:59.480 Why won't you say no?

00:36:01.120 I'm here to actually address the issue of the panel.

00:36:05.540 He doesn't want to be perjured.

00:36:08.220 Just say yes.

00:36:10.400 I have one more question.

00:36:12.380 Hurry.

00:36:13.640 Did you f*** a dog?

00:36:16.460 Wait to comment on.

00:36:19.620 All right, Elizabeth.

00:36:21.380 It's Mike Mike's single.

00:36:22.820 Elizabeth, now that's good.

00:36:23.780 That's your one minute.

00:36:24.540 You can go sit down.

00:36:26.180 All right, now let's call a name.

00:36:27.840 Let's go.

00:36:28.620 Give it up for Elizabeth, guys.

00:36:29.780 Clap for us.

00:36:30.960 We like that.

00:36:31.840 She got scammed by Maton.

00:36:34.500 All right.

00:36:35.480 The next victim.

00:36:37.640 The one, the only Max Goddard.

00:36:39.280 Come on down.

00:36:40.280 Come on, Max.

00:36:42.080 Is Max here?

00:36:43.240 That's not as cool of a name as Elizabeth Travis.

00:36:46.620 I like that name.

00:36:47.460 I know.

00:36:47.760 She's Randy Travis.

00:36:48.340 Garter's kind of a weird.

00:36:48.880 It makes me a garter belt.

00:36:50.540 Yeah.

00:36:50.820 Randy Travis's daughter.

00:36:51.680 I'm a bummer of a last name.

00:36:52.820 All right, Max.

00:36:54.020 Come on down.

00:36:54.560 You got one minute.

00:36:55.700 Your hottest take, brother.

00:36:57.360 I don't really have any hot takes.

00:36:58.980 Well, what do you want to debate?

00:36:59.960 I will just say, I think Trump's successes, the right successes, are less because of our successes

00:37:08.360 and more because of just the left's failures.

00:37:10.900 Yeah.

00:37:11.140 I mean, the left, they don't have any leadership.

00:37:14.120 They don't have any, I mean, they're just kind of lukewarm at this point.

00:37:17.720 There's not really anything going on with them.

00:37:21.180 I think the left has been, they're demotivated.

00:37:25.340 They have no drive anymore.

00:37:27.120 They have no, I mean.

00:37:28.840 I think that's why they're farming out, what's her name?

00:37:31.680 Crockett, Jasmine Crockett.

00:37:33.180 Because it's like letting the outfielders pitch.

00:37:35.440 The game is so toast now that they don't give us it.

00:37:39.600 Can you like, what's the policy in front of you like?

00:37:40.520 Who could they possibly run for president?

00:37:43.200 Yeah, come on down here.

00:37:43.980 Eric Swalwell?

00:37:44.600 Come take a seat.

00:37:45.300 Pete Buttigieg?

00:37:46.140 AOC?

00:37:46.920 Go this way.

00:37:47.900 Come this way.

00:37:48.680 We'll bring him up.

00:37:49.040 Give it up, everybody.

00:37:50.120 Come on down.

00:37:50.700 We got questions.

00:37:52.200 I actually, I kind of get what he's saying.

00:37:54.260 I agree a lot.

00:37:56.260 So, is your argument, it's not so much that Trump is winning, but the left has been demoralized

00:38:02.360 and they've got no leaders?

00:38:04.700 Yep, that's what I'm saying.

00:38:06.180 Leave that mic when you get it.

00:38:08.260 Talk into the mic.

00:38:09.500 I'm trying to talk into the mic.

00:38:10.580 There we go.

00:38:11.060 So, you don't think Trump has gotten any wins?

00:38:13.200 I think he's gotten wins.

00:38:16.260 What are you doing?

00:38:17.200 Sideways!

00:38:18.560 I got it.

00:38:19.260 You got it?

00:38:20.980 I think.

00:38:21.960 We can't hear him now.

00:38:23.560 Talk into it.

00:38:24.080 Can I hear him?

00:38:24.620 No.

00:38:25.440 You're not helping, Matron.

00:38:27.060 You're not helping.

00:38:27.600 You're not helping.

00:38:28.340 Hello.

00:38:28.920 We're good.

00:38:31.700 I mean.

00:38:32.360 Trump has gotten wins for sure.

00:38:33.900 There's the immigration.

00:38:35.360 I mean, the decrease in illegal immigration that we have, that's excellent.

00:38:40.020 That's awesome.

00:38:42.540 I just, I mean, the Epstein stuff was, that was a major step.

00:38:46.780 That was bad.

00:38:47.500 That was a major setback.

00:38:49.860 I think, you know, release the Epstein files and then we can talk about what happens to

00:38:55.240 Bondi afterward.

00:38:58.360 But I think, I think it's, you know, right now we're kind of at a stack, a little bit

00:39:03.120 of a stagnation and the left, I mean, they haven't, they don't really have much standing

00:39:10.240 anymore.

00:39:10.420 We think of Doge.

00:39:11.340 That was a failure, right?

00:39:13.540 No, it did great.

00:39:14.280 Elon Musk says it's a failure.

00:39:15.140 It was abandoned too early.

00:39:16.880 Elon Musk said it was a failure.

00:39:18.400 So now it's a loss if the win isn't winny enough?

00:39:20.880 No, no.

00:39:21.180 I'm just, so Elon Musk says the whole project is fucking stupid because they got this bill

00:39:25.040 through.

00:39:25.340 To be fair, he is our shadow president.

00:39:26.980 We just don't tell the liberals.

00:39:27.840 Well, I just want to, like, the whole idea.

00:39:31.140 That breakup did break my heart.

00:39:32.660 That was.

00:39:33.520 Oh, did it really?

00:39:35.340 I mean, they had such a beautiful relationship going on.

00:39:37.440 Because Elon's our shadow president.

00:39:38.660 We were heartbroken over it.

00:39:39.800 That entire effort was supposedly to, like, make the, like, you know, deficit go down to

00:39:44.700 improve efficiency.

00:39:45.940 And now we just have this big bloated bill that is, you know, getting rid of Medicaid

00:39:49.600 to give tax cuts to, like, the richest people and to.

00:39:53.200 You don't support Doge?

00:39:54.180 Yeah, no, I think it's stupid.

00:39:55.820 I think it's wrong.

00:39:56.540 And it's counter to the thesis of what Doge was about.

00:40:00.580 That was a failed project.

00:40:01.620 Can we at least acknowledge that?

00:40:02.660 No, you aren't correct.

00:40:03.500 Okay, so what did we get out of Doge?

00:40:04.880 So USAID has been shut down?

00:40:07.000 Yeah, so.

00:40:07.800 Yeah.

00:40:10.100 Massive generational success with the end of USAID.

00:40:13.940 Yeah, so, like, you don't want us funding these projects.

00:40:18.180 Coups in foreign countries, agreed.

00:40:19.780 Coups in foreign countries.

00:40:21.020 So should we also, by the way, defund Israel?

00:40:24.080 Yes.

00:40:24.620 Sure.

00:40:25.560 Yeah?

00:40:26.100 Okay.

00:40:26.840 Okay, so why is Trump, do you think?

00:40:29.160 Why is AOC voting to fund Israel?

00:40:30.700 Why is Trump being Netanyahu's bitch?

00:40:33.840 He's got big beef with Netanyahu.

00:40:35.800 They're not getting along at all anymore.

00:40:37.160 No, he's giving them an open hand.

00:40:38.340 But, you know, to be honest, like, I can, I try to look at the big picture of U.S. foreign

00:40:43.820 policy spending and targeting a single country of Israel, and we can certainly talk about

00:40:49.080 Israel's influence in U.S. politics and all that.

00:40:50.820 I'm like, well, hold on, hold on.

00:40:52.240 We're having a broader conversation on the totality of foreign policy.

00:40:55.960 Targeting a hot button wedge issue kind of distracts from the conversation.

00:40:58.880 All right, get out of here.

00:40:59.860 You're out of here, Max.

00:41:00.820 Hey, man, thanks for coming.

00:41:01.900 I was going to give you shit for having your phone on.

00:41:06.700 All right, our next victim, the one, the only, BrickSuit.

00:41:10.460 Come on now.

00:41:11.380 Give it up for BrickSuit.

00:41:13.640 Wait, I thought I'm BrickSuit.

00:41:15.140 Come on.

00:41:16.060 Come here.

00:41:18.880 Come on, BrickSuit.

00:41:20.080 Where you at?

00:41:20.900 He's putting on the BrickSuit.

00:41:22.900 Putting on the bricks.

00:41:24.100 Do-da-loo-da-loo.

00:41:26.980 All right, brother, you got one minute.

00:41:28.460 Okay, first of all, I've had nothing to do with that dog.

00:41:34.140 I thought so.

00:41:35.080 I'm going to tell you, Trump is winning on all cylinders.

00:41:37.700 You might be picking around the margins of maybe one or two things that you don't like.

00:41:41.860 But correctionally, it's victory after victory after victory.

00:41:45.580 And since he's been in office, it looks like a Rocky montage where the other fighter isn't landing a single punch.

00:41:51.920 It's just body blow after headshot after uppercut.

00:41:55.060 The left has no answer.

00:41:56.500 It's a complete and total victory.

00:41:58.680 Come on down, BrickSuit.

00:42:00.880 You're really happy.

00:42:03.160 You can't argue about it.

00:42:04.700 Trump promised prices would come down.

00:42:07.600 That was his promise.

00:42:08.440 They have not come down.

00:42:09.380 You know it.

00:42:09.640 How did you like that?

00:42:10.340 You know it.

00:42:10.700 I know it.

00:42:11.620 You know it.

00:42:12.280 I know it.

00:42:13.180 Growth is anemic.

00:42:14.860 How did you like that graph?

00:42:16.520 The tariffs are a disaster.

00:42:18.620 Everyone knows it.

00:42:19.740 And people hate them.

00:42:20.800 That's why his approval rating on every single issue is coming down.

00:42:23.940 Because people know, especially and including inflation, people know that he's not.

00:42:27.460 How did you like that graph that the Democrats posted?

00:42:29.800 I don't know what you're talking about.

00:42:30.220 Oh, yeah.

00:42:30.680 The graph that said Trump is responsible for inflation.

00:42:33.700 They had to take it down after four hours.

00:42:35.520 The Democrats can't even post a graph.

00:42:37.940 Trump promised.

00:42:38.560 What are you talking about?

00:42:39.460 They can't even post a graph.

00:42:40.640 Trump promised to bring prices down.

00:42:42.740 He failed.

00:42:43.520 Yes or no?

00:42:44.420 No.

00:42:45.060 No.

00:42:45.800 So prices have come down.

00:42:47.320 Yes.

00:42:47.860 Oh, great, huh?

00:42:48.500 No, no, no, no, no.

00:42:48.980 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

00:42:49.720 Okay.

00:42:50.060 Trump was roasted when he says, I don't know.

00:42:52.600 It's kind of hard to make prices go down.

00:42:54.380 No, he promised they would come down.

00:42:55.500 Don't try to gaslight your audience now.

00:42:57.000 He promised the prices would come down.

00:42:58.100 Trump literally got roasted for saying he didn't know if he could do it.

00:43:01.320 He said prices would come down.

00:43:03.420 Everyone knows that they're not coming down.

00:43:05.560 Oh, boy.

00:43:05.720 Saying everyone knows does not make it true, and you're talking about prices in a country

00:43:11.440 of 340 million people.

00:43:13.920 What prices are you specifically talking about?

00:43:16.640 Eggs?

00:43:17.360 Are we doing eggs?

00:43:18.220 Are we doing gas?

00:43:19.160 I'm talking about inflation overall.

00:43:20.600 I'm not talking about specific commodities.

00:43:22.420 President Trump also said that a key component of reduction in prices would be the unlocking

00:43:28.200 American energy and the decrease in costs in the energy sector would drive that, and

00:43:32.700 he specifically stated that it would take up to a year for those results to come about.

00:43:39.240 So here we are after six months, and you're complaining about promises that have a future.

00:43:43.280 No, no, no.

00:43:43.800 So you're lying right now.

00:43:44.580 So your premise is completely invalid.

00:43:45.860 So Trump said the price would come down on day one.

00:43:48.260 That's what he said.

00:43:49.220 And also-

00:43:49.640 Not about energy.

00:43:50.580 Yeah, yeah.

00:43:51.020 He said energy would take a while for it to come down, and we are headed in that direction.

00:43:54.400 So how are we headed in that direction, actually?

00:43:56.980 Because he stopped-

00:43:57.740 That's right.

00:43:57.840 What is what's happening?

00:43:58.540 So one of the things that Elon was arguing about in the big, beautiful bill, you can

00:44:02.780 say that it's self-serving all you want, but they got rid of a lot of these subsidies

00:44:05.840 to improve energy.

00:44:06.800 It's actually booming in places like Texas at all for electric cars and those kinds of

00:44:11.340 energy sectors, solar energy, that kind of stuff.

00:44:13.220 We're falling behind China now, and these tariffs aren't going to make prices be better.

00:44:16.660 They're going to make prices be worse.

00:44:18.420 That's why the Federal Reserve-

00:44:18.960 Says who?

00:44:19.540 That's why the Federal Reserve has not lowered interest rates yet, because they're worried

00:44:22.240 about the inflationary effect of tariffs.

00:44:23.860 And you know it.

00:44:24.480 That's a broken promise.

00:44:25.580 Can you say that you know it, and everybody knows it, and you know it?

00:44:29.500 That's really irritating.

00:44:30.760 Do you agree with the tariffs?

00:44:31.960 Yeah.

00:44:32.340 Okay.

00:44:32.780 It's called tough love.

00:44:34.020 It's called tough love.

00:44:34.640 It's like going to bed.

00:44:35.660 You don't want to go to bed, but you'll be well-rested the next day.

00:44:38.740 And we're all suffering.

00:44:40.120 We're all suffering because of the tariffs.

00:44:40.940 Yeah, it sucks to eat your vegetables, too.

00:44:43.960 But, Pisco, you know why he's putting the tariffs in place, so we have more power and leverage

00:44:48.460 in our geopolitical negotiations.

00:44:50.260 He has inconsistent rationales.

00:44:51.720 On the one hand, it's to shore up domestic production.

00:44:53.340 But then he's, like, touting all these deals.

00:44:56.020 If he's just trying to get better pre-trade deals, that's not going to shore up domestic

00:44:59.320 production.

00:45:00.040 So, on the one hand, he has this negotiation rationale that's totally at odds with his

00:45:03.560 shoring up rationale, and the deals suck.

00:45:06.080 They suck compared to what we have currently.

00:45:07.880 And he promised 90 deals in 90 days, and he failed on that, too.

00:45:11.800 Constantly failing, underachieving, overpromising, underachieving.

00:45:14.680 That you guys still believe that he's...

00:45:16.340 So, let me just...

00:45:17.900 Good argument.

00:45:18.540 Good argument.

00:45:19.220 Imagine this microscope on Biden.

00:45:21.180 Can you fucking imagine?

00:45:22.840 Get real.

00:45:23.320 By the way, what is your problem with being mistaken for Gavin?

00:45:26.400 No, I can't tell you how many times it's happened in Vegas.

00:45:28.860 Okay, that's a compliment, though.

00:45:29.620 And I could have gotten away with it.

00:45:30.780 Like, chicks come up to me and say, are you Gavin?

00:45:33.560 And I can have you in.

00:45:34.460 Why are you so adverse to that?

00:45:35.940 Indulge.

00:45:36.300 I know.

00:45:36.500 It's just like, you know...

00:45:37.660 But I don't want to sell you...

00:45:38.360 I'm married.

00:45:38.900 Go get some pussy on my behalf.

00:45:40.160 I don't want to sell you your reputation, you know?

00:45:41.940 So, it's just great to be up here.

00:45:44.900 And once we're finally in the same room, so those rumors can be put to rest.

00:45:50.120 Yeah, but it's not a bad thing.

00:45:51.420 No, I didn't say it was a bad thing.

00:45:52.980 Well, you seem pretty concerned about it.

00:45:54.560 It's not like being him who won't admit to screwing a dog.

00:45:56.760 I think it's you.

00:45:58.700 That's great.

00:45:59.580 I want to smell your dick after.

00:46:02.480 I don't know about that.

00:46:03.820 I don't get out much.

00:46:06.880 Here's what I'll say, Peaceco.

00:46:07.980 Trump has made a ton of promises he did not fulfill, but that doesn't mean he isn't winning.

00:46:15.160 So, I think it's fair to say Trump promised this, that, or otherwise.

00:46:18.980 We didn't get there.

00:46:19.920 We didn't get on some of these there yet.

00:46:21.520 Some look like we're not going to get, but across the board, we still face a net positive

00:46:24.720 from his administration based on what we voted for.

00:46:27.000 Really?

00:46:27.340 I mean, do you think that it's a net positive, for example, on corruption when Donald Trump

00:46:32.500 accepts a $400 million worth of Atari planes?

00:46:35.260 He should not accept the Atari airplane.

00:46:37.960 No, he should not.

00:46:38.480 Okay.

00:46:38.740 That's another sin.

00:46:39.580 You caught me.

00:46:40.100 There's a thousand examples like that.

00:46:41.740 His crypto scams.

00:46:43.120 Oh, yeah?

00:46:43.660 Yeah.

00:46:44.380 His corrupt deal with Mayor Adams.

00:46:46.220 Yeah, but that's their fault that they believed it.

00:46:48.200 Come on.

00:46:48.540 It was obvious.

00:46:50.560 You know what I constantly see from the left is this, when was America ever great?

00:46:55.200 And what they mean is, it was never perfect.

00:46:58.440 They go, in 1986, which is the number I always use for when America was great, they always

00:47:03.880 go, oh, yeah, then taxes were high back then.

00:47:06.200 America was never perfect, but it was always the greatest.

00:47:08.920 That's what mega means.

00:47:10.560 It means the greatest of all the options.

00:47:12.740 You guys hate America.

00:47:13.280 It doesn't mean perfect.

00:47:14.680 You hate America.

00:47:15.640 You hate everything that America stands for.

00:47:17.680 Yeah.

00:47:18.620 Go have a beer with a fucking welder and tell me.

00:47:23.480 You try to overturn.

00:47:24.940 You try to overturn our election.

00:47:25.600 Who would a plumber rather have a beer with, me or you?

00:47:28.440 You try to overturn the election, you and your criminal friends.

00:47:30.480 Yeah.

00:47:31.560 You and your criminal friends try to overturn our election.

00:47:34.180 Hold on.

00:47:34.520 You, yes, your criminal friends, that your buddy in the White House pardoned these cop

00:47:39.700 beaters and thugs.

00:47:40.920 That's what you, so you don't like America.

00:47:43.760 You don't like the due process clause of the Constitution.

00:47:46.280 You don't like the First Amendment of the Constitution.

00:47:49.520 So to be 100% clear, I think that you stand in stark contrast to what America means and what

00:47:54.480 it represents.

00:47:54.960 You would be a pariah in a dive bar.

00:47:56.900 Getting rid of birthright citizenship is awesome.

00:48:00.900 Wait, wait, what did you say?

00:48:01.840 I said getting rid of birthright citizenship is awesome.

00:48:03.940 These people don't know anything about the birthright citizenship clause.

00:48:05.980 Yeah, they're stupid.

00:48:06.920 They're so dumb.

00:48:07.940 So you wanted to find the Constitution.

00:48:09.760 You guys are not educated.

00:48:10.980 Well, actually, contextually, as that was written from the contemporaneous notes of the

00:48:15.960 people who authored that amendment, it did not, they expressly said that it would not

00:48:20.180 apply the way it's been applied.

00:48:21.580 No, no, no.

00:48:22.200 He's not wrong.

00:48:22.820 I'll explain.

00:48:23.500 He's not wrong.

00:48:24.320 He's not wrong.

00:48:24.360 To give citizenship to slaves.

00:48:25.100 No, no.

00:48:25.620 So the clause says, subject to the jurisdiction thereof, and that clause is meant to incorporate

00:48:30.940 the English common law rule of birthright citizenship.

00:48:33.420 And that rule, as understood in the Supreme Court and Wong Kim Mark, you can read the

00:48:36.840 case, applies to any persons, any persons born in this country, excluding like two or

00:48:43.920 three categories of historical exceptions, the children of ambassadors, the children

00:48:47.700 of American Indians.

00:48:48.140 What year was Wong Kim Mark?

00:48:50.400 1890-ish.

00:48:51.120 What year was the 14th?

00:48:52.340 The 14th Amendment, 1868.

00:48:53.740 And by the way, the first restrictive immigration law, we had open borders in this country.

00:48:56.960 So why-

00:48:57.540 So let me just finish.

00:48:58.640 Up to 1875 in the Page Act, that was the first restrictive immigration law.

00:49:02.260 So it's preposterous to suggest-

00:49:03.180 So I have a question for you.

00:49:03.880 It's preposterous to suggest that the citizenship clause applies to illegal immigrants-

00:49:08.340 Dude, you've got to cut your Adderall prescription down by 50%.

00:49:11.360 There was no conception of that until 1875.

00:49:13.500 I have a question for you, Pisco.

00:49:15.780 Yeah.

00:49:16.540 To set up the question, what year was the 14th?

00:49:19.940 1868.

00:49:20.520 And what year was Wong Kim Mark?

00:49:21.940 A couple decades after that.

00:49:23.080 It's like, it's a two or three?

00:49:24.320 It may be two or twenty-three years after that.

00:49:25.860 So it seems like if there's a Supreme Court case on this, it meant that there was actually

00:49:29.080 a debate happening for a generation as to whether or not it actually applied to citizens.

00:49:32.800 No, that's not true.

00:49:33.420 Then why did it go to the Supreme Court?

00:49:34.920 So what went to the Supreme Court was one instance where, you know, the child of a laborer-

00:49:38.500 The president was set.

00:49:39.600 No, no, a child of a laborer was coming back into the country.

00:49:42.740 He was born in the country and he was, you know, but we didn't have the INA back then.

00:49:46.760 These categories of here without status, these are modern conceptions.

00:49:49.920 As I'm like, I just explained to you.

00:49:51.100 The Page Act in 1875 was the very first restrictive immigration law on the books.

00:49:55.600 So in the 1890s, when this precedent was set about birthright citizenship, it was actually

00:50:01.400 contested to the Supreme Court.

00:50:03.280 It was contested to the Supreme Court.

00:50:04.680 Which means that nationally, it was not agreed upon.

00:50:06.860 The 14th Amendment would apply to all peoples.

00:50:08.560 Yeah, just because it's not like agreed upon.

00:50:10.340 Bro, who cares?

00:50:11.660 Because Chinese women who are eight and a half months pregnant are flying to America,

00:50:17.260 giving birth, and then flying home.

00:50:19.460 The law is being abused.

00:50:20.960 It had to be repaired.

00:50:22.300 And Trump repaired it.

00:50:23.640 Thank you, sir.

00:50:24.100 When you say repair, you mean change.

00:50:25.560 But Pishka, you know there are people that are taking advantage of this.

00:50:29.120 You know that.

00:50:29.960 There are bad people who take advantage of every constitutional provision.

00:50:33.580 There are bad people who take advantage of the First Amendment.

00:50:35.440 All right, that's fair.

00:50:36.440 I'm happy you agree that you lost.

00:50:37.820 I won that debate.

00:50:38.460 All right, guys.

00:50:38.800 Give it up for BrickSuit, everybody.

00:50:44.120 All right.

00:50:45.580 We love BrickSuit.

00:50:46.760 All right.

00:50:47.220 The next victim.

00:50:49.180 Come on down.

00:50:49.880 Kim Steele.

00:50:50.820 Where are you at?

00:50:51.700 Kim Steele.

00:50:51.820 Whoa, that's a cool name.

00:50:53.820 That's an action hero.

00:50:55.160 Where are you at?

00:50:56.920 Come on down, Kim.

00:50:57.640 Male or female, that's an action hero.

00:51:00.080 Yeah.

00:51:00.480 Kim Steele.

00:51:01.420 You know who we have to call?

00:51:04.400 Kim Steele.

00:51:06.740 Matan, what did you think about BrickSuit?

00:51:08.700 About who?

00:51:09.620 BrickSuit.

00:51:10.680 I think we need to take all those illegal immigrants and then sell them and then use the money to fund Lockheed Martin.

00:51:16.500 Yes.

00:51:18.500 That's a new take.

00:51:19.400 I just learned something.

00:51:22.060 Someone super chatted IRL and explained to me that illegal immigrants count as three-fifths of a person.

00:51:27.300 It's true.

00:51:27.900 They do.

00:51:28.680 It is in the Constitution.

00:51:31.060 We looked it up.

00:51:31.640 It literally is.

00:51:32.460 It doesn't say slaves.

00:51:33.460 It literally says all other persons.

00:51:34.660 Well, they still have as many body parts to sell, so it'll be the same amount of money.

00:51:38.440 But it's only three-fifths, so they've got to sell at a cheaper rate.

00:51:40.600 Are immigrants three persons?

00:51:42.400 According, it says all other persons.

00:51:45.480 Yeah, so are immigrants three persons?

00:51:46.760 Are you arguing that they're not three-fifths?

00:51:48.380 I'm saying that they're free persons.

00:51:49.880 As to the context of the Constitution when it was written, that's not what free persons refer to.

00:51:53.960 What do you think it referred to?

00:51:54.820 It referred to people in this country who are citizens of this country.

00:51:58.100 No, that's not what it says.

00:51:59.920 The framers were smart men.

00:52:01.540 They knew the difference between a person and a citizen.

00:52:03.980 For example, in the 14th Amendment Privileges or Immunities Clause, it makes reference to citizens when the requirements to be present.

00:52:10.140 14th Amendment as well.

00:52:10.500 These are lawyers.

00:52:11.640 They're smart.

00:52:12.300 They're not just going to make a mistake like that.

00:52:13.620 So is a person a citizen?

00:52:14.680 They're kind of better than those lawyers, aren't they?

00:52:16.220 Not all persons are citizens, but some citizens, so not all persons.

00:52:20.460 Are indentured servants?

00:52:22.040 Are free.

00:52:22.520 Well, no.

00:52:23.020 Indentured servants aren't free persons, but non-citizens are free persons.

00:52:25.940 Are illegal immigrants who are paying off debts to have traveled here indentured servants or free persons?

00:52:29.960 So it'll depend on the context, obviously.

00:52:32.840 So it's illegal to...

00:52:35.220 So I accept your distinction, and I will clarify my position.

00:52:40.220 Many of the illegal immigrants, like the ones they caught on the farm at the marijuana farm, are actually indentured servants.

00:52:44.960 They pay smugglers and coyotes, and they owe them a debt and have to work on cartel farms.

00:52:50.320 Illegally in the United States, they pay off the debt for travel.

00:52:52.180 We call that indentured servitude for which they're three-fifths of a person.

00:52:55.900 I'm not in agreement with that.

00:52:57.200 Yeah, but if that relationship is illegal, then by the law, they're not indentured servitudes.

00:53:02.100 It's illegal.

00:53:03.760 Okay, all right.

00:53:04.640 Now, Kim, you got one minute.

00:53:06.120 Sorry, can I say something briefly on that subject?

00:53:08.620 Ben Bankis brought this up, so did Tim Dillon.

00:53:11.500 They are three-fifths of a person, except for those weird Senegalese delivery guys with the cubic backpacks on their electric bikes.

00:53:17.980 Those aren't people.

00:53:18.800 I don't even think that's a problem.

00:53:24.600 Hey, you ready, Alex?

00:53:25.440 Yeah, Kim, what do you got for us?

00:53:27.640 Well, I'm a boomer.

00:53:29.740 Sorry to hear that.

00:53:31.980 Well, I didn't birth myself, dude.

00:53:34.340 But, you know, I don't understand why this dude is up here running his mouth like this.

00:53:40.520 Where were you when the Biden administration was doing so many things?

00:53:44.520 Where were you during 9-11?

00:53:45.720 And where were you when we were getting high?

00:53:48.800 Letting all these illegal come into our country and trash it.

00:53:52.520 Where were you when all that illegal shit was going on, but you're going to bitch about Trump?

00:53:57.540 Really?

00:53:58.700 Yeah, so I critiqued the Biden administration on a lot of policies.

00:54:01.800 I critiqued him, for example.

00:54:02.700 Okay, did you go down to the border and protest him just opening it up so that we could all suffer?

00:54:08.100 Yeah, it's a lie.

00:54:09.240 No, it is not.

00:54:10.060 It is a lie.

00:54:10.660 Dude, we saw the footage of infinite people coming in from Sri Lanka and fucking Africa.

00:54:15.700 I would like to just point out, everything is said against Trump is the truth.

00:54:22.200 All right, Kim, come on down for a second.

00:54:23.560 Come on down for three minutes.

00:54:24.500 Come on.

00:54:24.920 Hurry, Kim, this way, other way, other way, Kim.

00:54:28.300 Hurry, Kim.

00:54:29.000 I would just like to point out, to address Pisco's...

00:54:32.480 Let the racist grandmas...

00:54:34.760 Pisco...

00:54:35.180 We love racist grandmas.

00:54:36.700 We love racist grandmas.

00:54:37.740 6'7", Kevin and TimCast Media just released a documentary on all of this called Sin Frontera.

00:54:43.900 Hour and 46 minutes long, documenting all of the trafficking and all of the shit on the border.

00:54:48.400 Okay, chill, chill, chill, chill, dude.

00:54:49.740 So not you.

00:54:50.380 I was talking to the audience member.

00:54:51.460 You're going to get your chance to speak.

00:54:53.040 All right, we have Kim up here.

00:54:54.800 Now, I actually brought Kim up here for a personal reason.

00:54:58.360 Kim and I both agree that we did not land on the moon.

00:55:01.780 And I know Tim over here, these libtards, they think we were able to go in a spaceship in 1969 through 1972 back and forth to the moon on one tank of gas.

00:55:12.440 Kevin, did we land on the moon?

00:55:13.720 We landed on the moon.

00:55:14.920 There we go.

00:55:15.300 Okay, but you know what?

00:55:16.700 The films that they showed are fake.

00:55:18.860 Yes, correct.

00:55:19.940 They needed B-roll to discuss it on the news.

00:55:22.320 That's what Alex convinced me.

00:55:23.860 Yeah, they actually got caught.

00:55:25.060 Michael Collins.

00:55:25.780 No one claimed that was the actual footage.

00:55:28.180 When you're talking about something, you need like Getty images behind you.

00:55:31.880 So they filmed fake shit when they discussed it, but we did go to the moon.

00:55:35.640 I was like in kindergarten when it happened.

00:55:36.940 They pulled the TV set into my classroom.

00:55:40.000 It says CBS simulation on the video page.

00:55:42.340 But I didn't realize that at five.

00:55:45.640 But through all these years.

00:55:46.660 Some people thought that was the landing, but it wasn't.

00:55:48.140 Half an hour of traveling with Alex in the backseat of my car.

00:55:55.420 This is sounding like nepotism that you got up here.

00:55:57.880 Is this whole thing rigged?

00:56:01.060 I just saw Kim, and I know Kim because I did teach her about the moon, but we had to have a three-minute talk because, listen, we're not going to just sit here and talk about Trump the whole time.

00:56:07.760 We had to talk about something that's important.

00:56:09.060 Oh, here we go.

00:56:09.820 And so the moon landing was obviously fake.

00:56:11.960 Everybody needs to know that.

00:56:13.000 I'm going to stop this right now.

00:56:14.020 In 1969.

00:56:14.240 I'm putting my boot down.

00:56:16.280 We worked for big moon.

00:56:18.060 When I offered money to send Alex Stein to Antarctica, he refused.

00:56:21.840 He refused.

00:56:22.400 I'm sorry, Alex.

00:56:24.160 That is true.

00:56:24.920 I didn't want them to kill me in Antarctica, and I didn't want to have to land on the ice.

00:56:28.280 But that's neither here nor there.

00:56:28.860 Are you afraid of the aliens?

00:56:29.800 You guys are trying to distract like Pisco.

00:56:32.400 We're not doing the distraction thing.

00:56:33.900 We did not go to the moon on one tank of gas, 250,000 miles, and then all the way we go.

00:56:37.760 And on top of that, it was started by Wernher von Braun, who was a Nazi that we brought over during Operation Paperclip.

00:56:43.000 And on top of that, Hiller did not die after World War II.

00:56:45.200 He actually went to Argentina and had a bunch of babies.

00:56:46.940 But that's neither here nor there.

00:56:48.240 I agree that we did not have film of the first landing on the moon.

00:56:52.200 Everyone agrees with him.

00:56:53.060 That's what I agree with.

00:56:53.600 All right.

00:56:53.900 Give it up for her.

00:56:55.460 We love you.

00:56:56.320 But I'd like to point something out, all right?

00:56:58.720 This gentleman down here is trying to destroy my son's and my grandchildren's life, their future.

00:57:06.240 How do you mean?

00:57:06.620 And everything that they stand for.

00:57:08.600 She's calling him a socialist.

00:57:10.200 Because you only take sides against the people that you dislike.

00:57:14.160 So untrue.

00:57:14.800 You don't admit to the truth about the fact that Biden never one time signed a damn thing.

00:57:21.780 He was incapable.

00:57:23.460 Oh, good point.

00:57:24.200 He was not a president.

00:57:26.700 It's really funny.

00:57:27.700 And the people who follow me will know this.

00:57:30.100 I get roasted all the time for criticizing Biden too much.

00:57:33.100 I called his pardons of his son and his family impeachable.

00:57:37.140 So do you say that the Biden family is a criminal family and that they should all be in prison?

00:57:41.600 No, I don't agree with that because there are some members of the family.

00:57:45.560 Thank you, Kim.

00:57:46.500 Guys, give it up for Kim, guys.

00:57:48.080 Thank you.

00:57:48.940 Hey, can I say something about boomers?

00:57:51.500 You know, we always shit on boomers and we make fun of them.

00:57:54.420 At least they bred.

00:57:56.160 At least they fucking got married and have babies.

00:57:58.760 That's what we need more of.

00:58:00.140 More American families.

00:58:02.240 Yeah, it is.

00:58:02.800 It literally is.

00:58:04.220 Hey, who's the guy that won't shut up?

00:58:05.500 Who is the guy that won't shut up?

00:58:06.500 Come on.

00:58:06.740 You come up.

00:58:07.600 I know.

00:58:07.940 Go.

00:58:08.200 Come on to the mic.

00:58:09.320 Yeah.

00:58:09.640 Get on the mic.

00:58:10.420 You get your one minute.

00:58:11.380 You won't shut the hell up.

00:58:13.600 Let's go.

00:58:14.540 Heckled your way into the show.

00:58:15.840 Yeah.

00:58:16.440 Why did you give him an advantage?

00:58:18.000 No, I just let him.

00:58:19.100 Hey, hurry.

00:58:19.620 Because I know he's a dumbass.

00:58:21.000 I know he has nothing to say.

00:58:21.940 I can tell this guy fucks different random chicks every week.

00:58:24.920 That's a gay lifestyle.

00:58:27.040 You have a gay lifestyle, sir.

00:58:29.340 You're the one who shut up your ass.

00:58:31.160 Okay.

00:58:31.540 Hey, come on.

00:58:32.160 Come to the mic.

00:58:32.760 Touché.

00:58:33.120 That's pretty good.

00:58:33.740 Come to the mic, dude.

00:58:33.880 What is taking so long?

00:58:35.760 What's going on?

00:58:36.360 Hey, what's taking so long?

00:58:37.420 Where'd you go?

00:58:37.840 Let's go to the mic.

00:58:39.000 He's got to go get his toupee.

00:58:43.940 That's true, though.

00:58:44.600 Gavin did shove something up his ass.

00:58:46.500 He did, yes.

00:58:47.100 The first question is from Todd.

00:58:48.960 I was trying to show that I could dance better with something up my ass than Hillary can with nothing up her ass.

00:58:54.120 How do you feel about your good friend going to prison yesterday?

00:58:56.020 Are you upset that you're conservative?

00:58:57.780 Wait, you have to read this question?

00:58:59.500 Yes, I'm reading it.

00:59:00.580 I'm reading it.

00:59:00.880 That makes you look weak.

00:59:02.140 Are you talking about...

00:59:02.780 Just say your question.

00:59:03.900 How do you feel about your good friend going to prison yesterday?

00:59:07.040 And you're upset that your conservative alpha supreme leader isn't commuting a sentence?

00:59:12.060 No, no.

00:59:12.460 I'm very happy that...

00:59:12.820 I can definitely respond to that.

00:59:14.100 Brentos is in jail.

00:59:14.940 I'm super happy about it.

00:59:16.560 Also, is the...

00:59:17.160 I hope he gets...

00:59:18.140 No, I'm not going to say that.

00:59:19.540 Dude, reading from the phone is such a beta move.

00:59:21.800 I know, dude.

00:59:22.500 Is the black man waiting outside?

00:59:23.940 You can't remember that question about...

00:59:25.400 Yeah, it's not like you're...

00:59:26.600 I don't understand.

00:59:27.060 You're not reading Shakespeare.

00:59:28.560 I couldn't hear what you said, sorry.

00:59:32.420 I mean, seriously.

00:59:34.060 Reread it.

00:59:35.040 No, the second one, sorry.

00:59:37.400 The second question.

00:59:38.660 Is someone waiting...

00:59:39.400 Scroll, scroll.

00:59:40.680 Is there a question that J-6 didn't attack police officers that day?

00:59:43.840 Yes, that is my position.

00:59:45.280 Fucking delusional.

00:59:45.680 And he literally answered that already.

00:59:47.460 My follow-up question is, without those bottleneck glasses, are you legally a black man?

00:59:52.880 Okay, that's not the correct adjective.

00:59:54.960 All right, sit down, dude.

00:59:55.680 You mean Coke bottle glasses.

00:59:58.600 Bottleneck implies a traffic problem.

01:00:00.820 You mean Coke bottle glasses.

01:00:02.360 And these are an incredibly weak prescription.

01:00:05.100 You're bald.

01:00:06.000 Are we getting into, like, what happens to people as they get older?

01:00:10.680 I don't get the insult.

01:00:12.980 I have gray hairs, too.

01:00:14.640 What is this?

01:00:17.080 Yeah, you suck, dude.

01:00:19.040 Yeah, you were terrible, man.

01:00:20.700 Those are your guys.

01:00:21.560 You know what you should do?

01:00:22.540 You should go marry your last girlfriend and stop.

01:00:25.620 I got it owned by somebody with something up his ass.

01:00:27.640 I got it owned by somebody with something up his ass.

01:00:29.080 You did that.

01:00:30.340 We got that.

01:00:31.200 I got to disagree with the panel on the guys and the questions.

01:00:33.020 I think we actually appreciate the contest.

01:00:36.620 Yeah, we do.

01:00:37.700 We do, but that wasn't that great.

01:00:39.520 I mean, he didn't really have any guys.

01:00:40.220 I mean, like, everybody here is on one side.

01:00:41.520 He couldn't even remember the question to Matan about.

01:00:44.180 That's fair, I guess.

01:00:45.460 All right, now we're going to bring up somebody else.

01:00:47.580 Now, come on down.

01:00:49.080 Armin Gupta.

01:00:51.000 That sounds ethnic.

01:00:51.980 This could be good.

01:00:53.680 I don't know the context of Indian names, so that might be a cool name over there.

01:00:57.400 I wouldn't know.

01:00:58.480 Armin Gupta.

01:00:59.020 It might be Arminian.

01:01:00.980 Could be Arminian.

01:01:02.240 Who knows?

01:01:02.920 Is Armin here?

01:01:04.060 He's coming.

01:01:05.100 All right, Armin.

01:01:05.880 Armin.

01:01:06.100 Check him for bombs.

01:01:10.320 Check him for BMW.

01:01:13.900 It's Pisco, right?

01:01:15.100 Pisco, that's right, yeah.

01:01:16.020 Well, I appreciate you coming out.

01:01:17.000 I know it can be kind of hard, you know, around this way.

01:01:19.720 No, I appreciate it.

01:01:20.780 Very good.

01:01:22.020 So, how do you define winning?

01:01:26.580 I think winning is achieving an aim.

01:01:29.320 A what?

01:01:30.100 Achieving an aim.

01:01:31.220 So, based on the platform that he ran on, do you think he's achieved anything?

01:01:35.080 I think it's a mixed bag if you go by the platform that he set out.

01:01:38.720 But I take my winning, my version of winning, to be different than what you guys would consider winning.

01:01:42.720 Sure.

01:01:42.860 I think on both sides, at least for you guys, it's a mixed bag, definitely.

01:01:46.820 And for me, it's a disaster.

01:01:47.600 So, given that he's from our party, I would assume, from our side we think he's winning.

01:01:53.820 Does that qualify?

01:01:54.600 Obviously, you think he wouldn't be winning because you're on the other side.

01:01:58.360 Yeah, no.

01:01:58.960 So, I'm here to convince you on your own terms.

01:02:00.840 Sure.

01:02:01.180 He's not achieving it.

01:02:01.500 But you're subjecting him to your terms, too.

01:02:04.320 Both.

01:02:04.780 I'm doing both.

01:02:05.160 So, could we agree that the terms should probably be the campaign platform that he ran on?

01:02:08.680 I don't know about that.

01:02:11.900 Why not?

01:02:12.320 So, if what you mean by, is Trump winning, semantically you mean, is he achieving what he wants to achieve?

01:02:18.380 Yes.

01:02:18.900 Then, analytically, by definition, he's doing what he's doing.

01:02:21.820 Come on down.

01:02:22.160 Perfect.

01:02:22.820 Come on down.

01:02:24.040 But that's not.

01:02:25.480 Give it up, guys.

01:02:26.340 Give it up.

01:02:26.840 Hang on.

01:02:29.040 Because it's a little debate bro-y, but that's trivially true.

01:02:32.620 If what you're saying is, by definition, he's winning because he's doing what he wants, and what he wants to do is what he does, then, okay, if that's what your standard for winning is, then, I guess, analytically, you win the debate.

01:02:42.340 But that's not what most people like to mean.

01:02:43.180 It sounds like what you need to argue is why your definition of winning should be the one that we're following.

01:02:48.720 Well, no.

01:02:49.380 I think even under the—

01:02:50.440 Every time you get up a little bit more.

01:02:51.500 I'm appealing to MAGA supporters, I think, what I take to be their collective expectations for Trump.

01:02:59.340 Yes, and I think we're—

01:03:00.900 I think the fact that we're here says that he is actually achieving something close to our expectations or else we wouldn't be supporting our president.

01:03:07.220 Well, you agree that's not logically entailed, right?

01:03:07.620 How is that not logic?

01:03:08.460 Your physical presence at an event means that he's achieving his aims?

01:03:11.840 Why does that fall off?

01:03:12.500 No, I'm just saying that it gives some credence to it, not that it's the whole thing.

01:03:15.340 I don't know why.

01:03:16.340 I think the fact that the polls are up—

01:03:17.100 I think you guys would come out for political—

01:03:18.560 And we're in D.C., by the way, where I think 1% of the population voted for Trump.

01:03:23.760 So the fact that people are coming out in D.C. is unique.

01:03:25.900 Do you really think we're here to discuss whether the person in the White House is doing what they want to do,

01:03:30.060 and therefore they're achieving by definition what they want to do?

01:03:32.400 I think he's doing what we want him to do, and that's why we're here saying that he is winning.

01:03:36.380 Do you want him to release the Epstein files?

01:03:37.940 Yes.

01:03:38.640 Okay, he's failing on that, correct?

01:03:40.120 No.

01:03:40.900 Wait, why not?

01:03:41.760 Okay, so—

01:03:42.460 Time!

01:03:42.820 Oh, it takes time.

01:03:44.000 It takes time.

01:03:44.740 Why does it take that much time?

01:03:45.440 Let's let him watch it.

01:03:46.620 Oh, everything.

01:03:47.320 Tim Pool brought something up some episode ago where he said that because he has the sort of positions that we have,

01:03:54.940 we're willing to tolerate some of the things that he's not doing well.

01:03:58.180 Would you say that that's fair?

01:03:59.860 That if somebody's out there that's actually fighting for this nation, that we'd be willing to tolerate with them?

01:04:05.460 Yeah, so I think that some amount of tolerance is expected, and I would understand—

01:04:08.560 Wait, but the Epstein stuff, unlike what Gavin suggested, is central to your mythology.

01:04:13.260 In 2020, what was your position on the Epstein files?

01:04:15.600 The Epstein stuff is central to your mythology.

01:04:17.580 Were you talking about this before, too, or just since Trump got in office?

01:04:20.220 I've talked about the Epstein stuff before, but I just want to—

01:04:21.700 Okay, perfect.

01:04:22.240 So I'm literally here arguing on your terms, right?

01:04:25.400 I understand that.

01:04:26.680 But his platform isn't—

01:04:27.460 You can't argue it's not central.

01:04:28.080 But his platform isn't just the Epstein files, is it?

01:04:30.180 I agree.

01:04:30.620 That's why I brought up other things.

01:04:31.460 Perfect.

01:04:31.740 So, for example, prices.

01:04:33.080 He's not succeeding on prices.

01:04:34.520 I think we—I think the term was net positive, right?

01:04:36.880 Yeah, the price—

01:04:37.580 For the most—

01:04:38.460 He's doing the things that we want.

01:04:40.340 Within six months, we've got win after win.

01:04:42.640 I think we're doing something good here.

01:04:44.060 What's the single best thing?

01:04:45.140 The single best thing.

01:04:46.320 Let's see.

01:04:47.000 Giving more money to CBP, to ICE, getting these people out of here that shouldn't be here.

01:04:52.420 Actually changing the conversation in this nation.

01:04:55.120 Giving people like us the opportunity to say, hey, we're done.

01:04:58.420 We're not putting up with this crap that you keep putting over here.

01:05:01.740 So then you must take your—

01:05:04.080 Tell me how that's not winning.

01:05:05.240 Yeah, so—

01:05:06.080 Are we all deluded?

01:05:07.200 If all you wanted was funding, like, Border Patrol and funding—

01:05:10.340 I want funding so we can go get these people out of here.

01:05:12.460 That's the all I want.

01:05:13.400 So if that's all you want, you would have—

01:05:15.080 That's not all I want.

01:05:15.860 I want the job done.

01:05:17.840 So you would have supported, like, the bipartisan infrastructure bill, of what you're talking about.

01:05:21.080 No.

01:05:21.360 Our money—

01:05:21.960 No.

01:05:22.280 No.

01:05:22.380 That was a bullshit scam.

01:05:24.000 No.

01:05:24.300 We didn't fall for that.

01:05:25.440 Chill, guys.

01:05:25.880 Don't fucking sweat.

01:05:26.320 But also, like, he's already, like, put in huge holes in his deportation policy, right?

01:05:32.860 And tell me what those holes are.

01:05:34.260 All right, guys.

01:05:34.780 Give it up for Armand.

01:05:35.700 Thank you, Armand.

01:05:36.400 Good work, Armand.

01:05:37.260 I just want to point out, we're not asking, has Trump won?

01:05:41.240 We're asking, is he winning?

01:05:42.300 That guy was not Armenian.

01:05:43.420 He might have been Indian?

01:05:44.660 I think so.

01:05:45.280 Probably Indian.

01:05:45.940 Second generation.

01:05:47.140 All right.

01:05:47.460 Rich Felice.

01:05:48.700 Come on down.

01:05:49.520 Rich Felice.

01:05:50.420 Why did you choose that sound for your phone?

01:05:55.100 I don't know.

01:05:55.840 It's a guitar thing.

01:05:56.720 Isn't that, like, bad to the bone or something?

01:05:59.100 I am bad to the bone.

01:05:59.380 So are you saying you're bad to the bone?

01:06:00.860 I am bad to the bone.

01:06:01.640 I'm a bad dude.

01:06:02.200 I think you're a very interesting, successful guy.

01:06:04.340 I don't really see you as bad.

01:06:05.940 Okay, well—

01:06:06.440 Like, you don't even drink.

01:06:07.780 I mean, I do.

01:06:08.540 I heroin, though.

01:06:08.720 He's a vegetarian.

01:06:09.700 Yeah.

01:06:09.980 I am a vegetarian.

01:06:10.700 I'm a soy boy.

01:06:11.240 Like, if that's George Thorogood, he's the one bourbon, one scotch, one beer guy.

01:06:15.180 I don't—bad to the bone?

01:06:16.880 I just do a little fentanyl to just, you know—

01:06:18.980 That's not bad.

01:06:20.860 All right, Rich.

01:06:21.780 That's sad.

01:06:22.300 What do you got for us, Rich?

01:06:24.080 Primetime, your coffee was incredible.

01:06:25.880 Thank you.

01:06:26.600 Thank you.

01:06:27.120 You're welcome.

01:06:28.520 Over Epstein, I just want to point out that it was the Republicans that were first on board of attacking Trump.

01:06:36.720 They were the ones that were actually going after him, saying, this is ridiculous.

01:06:40.660 Why—what is happening?

01:06:42.120 We don't know what's happening in the background, but it was Democrats that jumped on afterwards.

01:06:46.680 Yeah, so I'll address that.

01:06:47.800 So you're basically saying, how are we hypocrites because we're calling him out for it?

01:06:51.760 That's not the argument.

01:06:52.760 I mean, I can think of ways in which you guys are hypocrites.

01:06:54.740 It's a political push on your part.

01:06:56.580 It is hypocritical.

01:06:57.560 Whether it's a political push or not, the question is, do you think he's being successful on the Epstein Files?

01:07:02.080 I do think he's being—we don't know what's happening.

01:07:04.580 Is the answer you don't know or do you know?

01:07:06.520 We don't know.

01:07:07.180 Are you happy or unhappy with how—

01:07:08.440 We genuinely don't know.

01:07:09.520 I am frustrated.

01:07:10.640 I actually gave that to you as a courtesy.

01:07:12.800 Which is why, again, we were the first ones that were vocal against him.

01:07:16.400 So I'm just giving you an example of how Trump is not winning.

01:07:19.260 So a separate argument is, are Democrats hypocrites?

01:07:22.200 Are you guys hypocrites?

01:07:23.260 But the question is, is he winning on the Epstein Files?

01:07:25.620 And you're saying you're very unhappy.

01:07:26.760 We will find out.

01:07:27.720 We have 100 people that are apparently going to be named—

01:07:32.240 You're coping.

01:07:33.120 They already came to their conclusion.

01:07:34.260 Wait.

01:07:34.480 They already came to their conclusion.

01:07:35.560 There was a memo released on, like, July 6th or 7th that said, nothing more to see here, folks.

01:07:40.800 And that—

01:07:41.020 But it's—you know, you bring up a great point, though.

01:07:43.440 The Epstein thing is far from over.

01:07:45.340 The left smelled that there might be a loss there, and they're jerking off all over it.

01:07:49.820 It's like the files are drenched in cum, and we haven't even opened the binder yet.

01:07:54.280 So this is co, by the way.

01:07:55.660 So they said they did an exhaustive review.

01:07:57.740 I'm not using my terms.

01:07:58.900 I'm using the attorney general's words.

01:08:01.060 Exhaustive review.

01:08:02.220 And they said, nothing more to see here, folks.

01:08:04.320 No evidence of any wrongdoing in the current files the FBI has.

01:08:07.780 And they said—

01:08:08.540 It's still open.

01:08:09.620 No, the case is not closed.

01:08:10.960 The case is not closed.

01:08:11.760 The case is not closed.

01:08:11.780 The case is where the files were.

01:08:12.180 We don't know what they did to those files.

01:08:14.340 You know what?

01:08:14.780 I'm taking it back.

01:08:15.540 I'm not giving you that as a victory anymore.

01:08:17.620 So Trump is not alleging—

01:08:18.480 You were an ingrate.

01:08:19.520 So Trump is not alleging that they lost evidence.

01:08:22.360 It's back.

01:08:22.840 Trump is alleging that they manufactured the Epstein files.

01:08:25.440 He calls it the Epstein hopes.

01:08:26.900 And you guys are just ignoring that he's—

01:08:28.600 Where Coney's daughter was stationed.

01:08:30.640 I got to interject, but you keep doing this blanket.

01:08:34.160 No one here is defending that.

01:08:35.840 Like, everyone's frustrated with it.

01:08:37.360 Everyone's upset over it.

01:08:38.420 His point was that Republicans were first in line to be upset over it.

01:08:41.420 So you were correct.

01:08:42.760 You want us.

01:08:43.760 You think it's our Achilles heel.

01:08:45.940 And we're, like, sweating when you bring up the files.

01:08:48.920 Let us—

01:08:49.440 Can we change the subject?

01:08:50.660 Let us aim our power rings to the sky of calling for the release of the Epstein files.

01:08:54.280 And our powers combined, maybe we'll get them released.

01:08:56.100 Yes.

01:08:56.420 Hey, I'm in favor of that.

01:08:57.820 I'm in favor of greater transparency.

01:08:59.300 But—

01:08:59.500 Democrats are going to lose bad when they get released, by the way.

01:09:02.340 Schumer was like, hey, what are they doing?

01:09:03.620 Don't talk to Max.

01:09:04.320 What he's already done?

01:09:04.600 Clinton's going to have, like, dicks in his mouth and children's tits in his face.

01:09:08.400 Tim's point last week, there was a lot of blackpilling on your show last week, that there are a ton of amazing executive orders, but the legislation has not actually made it fulfilled.

01:09:23.000 What legislation do you want?

01:09:25.480 It's partially winning, but until the Congress actually acts, we're not going to actually see solid wins long term.

01:09:33.660 Do you support the bill they did pass, which increased the debt ceiling and—

01:09:37.920 It didn't.

01:09:38.380 CBO didn't count, factor in the tax cuts that were—

01:09:43.820 No, no.

01:09:44.200 These are incredibly rosy assessments.

01:09:46.100 They're giving rosy assessments.

01:09:47.260 I got it.

01:09:47.720 And it increased the deficit massively.

01:09:50.280 The deficit in June, they just found that there was—

01:09:52.860 That's because that's when they collect taxes.

01:09:54.960 Guys, don't fall for these years.

01:09:56.560 I can't remember where they're winning, Rich.

01:09:58.760 That's the month where they collect—we've done that in certain months during the Biden administration as well.

01:10:02.760 I want to just—I can't remember who was on the show saying this, but they were like,

01:10:06.400 the deficit voter is fake and doesn't exist.

01:10:08.920 Literally, no one gives a fuck about the deficit.

01:10:10.480 They just pretend to when it's politically advantageous.

01:10:12.380 Like Trump.

01:10:13.180 Like Trump.

01:10:13.760 And then every—

01:10:14.160 Like Trump.

01:10:14.440 Indeed.

01:10:14.920 Indeed.

01:10:15.520 Because every party just says, remove the debt ceiling, crank up the budget, give me the money,

01:10:19.220 and then the other side pretends like they're upset until they do the exact same thing.

01:10:22.300 You're saying no one really cares about the deficit.

01:10:23.920 Thomas Massey does.

01:10:24.640 Well, no one understands it.

01:10:25.600 I don't understand it.

01:10:26.560 I'm a big fan of Thomas Massey and Brokaw.

01:10:27.640 We like Thomas Massey.

01:10:27.940 For that reason.

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01:11:00.800 It's like the Democrats don't give a shit when the deficit goes up when they get their

01:11:04.680 agenda through.

01:11:05.340 And the Republicans don't give a shit when the deficit goes up when they get their agenda

01:11:07.360 through because everyone's trying to win their agenda.

01:11:09.000 Well, I don't know.

01:11:09.380 I think the Democrats are like, I will spend whatever I have to of your money to do what

01:11:12.320 I want to do.

01:11:12.940 Manchin really pressured Biden to make sure that he was fully costing his measures like

01:11:16.900 the Inflation Reduction Act.

01:11:18.300 Same similar things with Obama.

01:11:19.680 They weren't as crazy.

01:11:20.780 Oh, come on.

01:11:21.120 Just admit it, dude.

01:11:22.300 What do you mean?

01:11:22.960 Both parties cranked the deficit to the moon.

01:11:25.100 Republicans more.

01:11:26.220 Oh, come on.

01:11:27.780 Republicans more.

01:11:28.540 All right.

01:11:28.640 All right, guys.

01:11:29.120 Let's call a new name.

01:11:30.520 Let's go.

01:11:32.360 How about, what is this?

01:11:34.620 Shabar Raza.

01:11:35.980 Come on down.

01:11:36.760 Shabar Raza.

01:11:37.260 That's a cool name.

01:11:38.980 Shabar Raza.

01:11:41.160 Is that him?

01:11:43.240 Although it's weird to have your first name end with the same letter that the new name

01:11:46.740 begins with.

01:11:47.340 I know.

01:11:47.600 Double R.

01:11:48.080 Yeah, I don't like that.

01:11:49.360 That makes me want to roll the R's.

01:11:51.640 Come on, Shabar.

01:11:52.520 Come on down.

01:11:53.080 I'm like, come on down.

01:11:54.660 Oh, look at this guy.

01:11:55.740 He's got the long hair.

01:11:58.740 Damn.

01:11:59.140 All right, boss.

01:11:59.540 You got one minute.

01:12:00.720 Cool.

01:12:01.360 Question for Matan.

01:12:02.480 Do you think Santos purposely went to jail so he could get the ass?

01:12:05.500 I wouldn't be surprised.

01:12:08.280 I keep seeing him on Twitter saying that they're going to kill him or run him in jail.

01:12:12.320 I think that he's going to probably have consensual sex in jail and he just wants an excuse for it.

01:12:18.040 But I don't know.

01:12:19.240 I think he's, yeah, I don't know.

01:12:21.320 I don't think he's going to get.

01:12:22.220 I think he's going to.

01:12:23.080 He might be trying to run people, though, in just the way that some gay people do when

01:12:27.280 they try to convince straight people that they're also gay.

01:12:30.240 Right.

01:12:30.440 So not like physical.

01:12:31.680 He's going to be mentally.

01:12:32.600 When you when you went on his podcast and you called his co-host Jamal, that's one of

01:12:41.220 the funniest moments of 2025.

01:12:43.000 I didn't know that guy's name.

01:12:44.620 So I was.

01:12:47.240 But speaking of sorry to interrupt, but speaking of hypocrisy, his sentence was fucking insane.

01:12:53.520 Yeah, he got 87 months.

01:12:55.080 And we know that the left protects all their people and forgives their corruption.

01:12:59.160 What do you spend some campaign money on bow ties?

01:13:01.760 That's right, though.

01:13:02.200 This guy's just a gay drifter.

01:13:03.600 No, we forgive him.

01:13:06.400 87 months is fucking nuts.

01:13:08.320 I want corruption on our side, too.

01:13:10.780 I don't.

01:13:11.240 I think I disagree on corruption for both sides, unless it's Republican, which is agreeing

01:13:15.260 with you.

01:13:16.080 But I don't know.

01:13:16.600 I don't like him.

01:13:17.240 I mean, I don't think that guy's actually.

01:13:18.300 No one likes him.

01:13:19.480 Yeah.

01:13:19.660 Why would you let him?

01:13:20.500 But I want him forgiven because he's technically on our side.

01:13:23.100 I don't think that's true at all.

01:13:24.240 I think he's I don't think he gives a shit about anything.

01:13:27.120 I think that he's the type of guy who would want to be on like RuPaul's Drag Race.

01:13:30.660 But he realized he didn't have to look for it.

01:13:33.040 So he started trying to become a Republican, which is a very odd route to fame.

01:13:37.020 But I mean, I guess it worked for him.

01:13:39.140 Yeah.

01:13:39.260 We need more unity on our side.

01:13:40.600 Yeah.

01:13:40.740 But when he voted, he did have one of the most conservative voting records in Congress.

01:13:44.480 Yeah, because he knew that he had to do that.

01:13:46.980 I mean, I don't know why that was his choice, but he went with that and he stuck with it.

01:13:50.320 I think that's admirable.

01:13:52.060 All right.

01:13:52.480 We're going to call.

01:13:53.760 I want one last question.

01:13:55.240 What do you got?

01:13:55.940 I just say, Tim.

01:13:57.620 So what happens, let's say, if Trump does get found in the list, like legally.

01:14:01.980 Right.

01:14:02.380 Because he had all that shit in New York.

01:14:03.720 But like as as the president, as whatever, what's the Constitution like limits?

01:14:09.800 So nothing.

01:14:10.400 So then there is no real like point to even investigating it.

01:14:14.020 Right.

01:14:14.320 What is the list?

01:14:15.680 Like, what does it say?

01:14:16.580 It says Donald Trump.

01:14:17.700 11 year old girl on Thursday, June 29th.

01:14:22.300 Here's some photos.

01:14:23.860 Right.

01:14:24.120 Like what?

01:14:24.660 I don't understand what this list is.

01:14:26.580 The list is a figurative statement of people who are associated with Epstein who are engaged

01:14:30.920 in child sex trafficking or they were they were bringing these these teenage girls under

01:14:35.280 the under the excuse of modeling or coming to islands and then forcing.

01:14:38.100 These guys are like, what's the point?

01:14:39.340 What does that say on the list about it?

01:14:40.960 That's what you guys are saying.

01:14:41.820 This is just a figurative.

01:14:42.680 This is just like all fucking bullshit.

01:14:44.320 Don't we want to know about it?

01:14:45.280 Like, don't you care about it?

01:14:47.080 Indeed.

01:14:47.420 Yes.

01:14:47.660 It's awesome.

01:14:48.640 This is not a win for you.

01:14:50.200 Oh, it's Obama.

01:14:51.480 I don't know.

01:14:52.020 I feel like you guys are pissed about it.

01:14:53.600 I feel like I know this is off topic.

01:14:54.940 But when we were in the waiting room, I asked this guy and he said that he was attracted

01:14:58.740 to some men with penises because he didn't consider them men.

01:15:03.120 Is that true?

01:15:03.960 It is true.

01:15:04.420 He did say that.

01:15:04.960 He did say that.

01:15:05.680 I was screaming.

01:15:06.420 So I was screaming.

01:15:08.080 This is the best they have.

01:15:09.380 This is the best they have.

01:15:10.160 Did you not say that?

01:15:11.020 No, it's not the best.

01:15:12.080 I got way better.

01:15:12.880 This is the best they have.

01:15:13.640 Oh, yeah, I did record that.

01:15:15.120 I believe Tim has that on a video.

01:15:17.060 So this is the best they have.

01:15:19.500 The best they have is to change the dialogue, is to try to distract from the Epstein files.

01:15:24.600 And you're seeing it in real time right now.

01:15:26.080 I don't care about the Epstein files.

01:15:27.780 I know you don't.

01:15:28.640 I know you don't.

01:15:29.740 I know you don't care about it.

01:15:30.540 I know you don't care about it.

01:15:31.480 I know you don't care about it.

01:15:32.700 We've got to address this for the culture war, okay?

01:15:35.080 My point was this.

01:15:36.140 Matan brings up an interesting point.

01:15:38.080 This gender ideology debate.

01:15:40.080 I said, I don't care if you're gay.

01:15:42.540 I don't care if you're a guy who likes guys.

01:15:44.720 And my point was, there are these leftist guys who say that they could be attracted to an individual.

01:15:51.260 I think he said he was attracted to Hulk Hogan.

01:15:53.800 Maybe, maybe.

01:15:54.520 But here's the point.

01:15:55.180 Here's the point.

01:15:55.480 Hulk Hogan has a vagina.

01:15:56.540 If there is, like, so I'm a guy, and I don't like guys.

01:16:00.740 But let me get very specific.

01:16:02.740 There is zero circumstance.

01:16:03.980 Because Pisco was asking if you had to choose between, you know, Hulk Hogan with lady parts.

01:16:09.200 No, I just gave the Andrew Tate hypothetical.

01:16:11.100 Andrew Tate, right.

01:16:12.020 Come on.

01:16:12.640 What I said was, I don't understand why the left makes the argument from their perspective that as men,

01:16:18.640 they're attracted to both people with dicks and people with pussies.

01:16:22.420 I'm like, that's called bisexual.

01:16:23.800 And I don't understand why they're so ashamed and can't just admit it.

01:16:25.640 If you define man as having a penis, correct?

01:16:28.000 Do you see where he's going?

01:16:29.020 I'm like, bro, if you like dick, just say it.

01:16:30.460 I don't care.

01:16:30.980 You're allowed to like dick.

01:16:31.920 So this is why you guys need, you guys need some gender theory.

01:16:34.580 This is DC.

01:16:35.060 We're not mad at you.

01:16:35.640 We're not mad at you.

01:16:36.260 You guys need some gender theory.

01:16:37.440 It sounds like you are very confused.

01:16:38.940 If you define man, if you define man as having a penis.

01:16:41.520 I said sexual.

01:16:41.880 It sounds like, because all the time you guys are like, define man, define woman.

01:16:44.380 You guys can't define these terms.

01:16:45.800 I was, I was, I was rolling on the bed screaming.

01:16:47.700 You really can't.

01:16:48.700 Dude, we saw, we saw in the Olympics, a dude beat the shit out of another chick.

01:16:52.660 When the guy's done using the bathroom, he tries shoving it back up his.

01:16:57.220 Yeah, in the Olympics, that dude that beat the shit out of that chick, that was not good,

01:17:03.000 you know?

01:17:03.260 Thank you, Shabar.

01:17:03.880 In the Olympics.

01:17:04.540 All right, all right.

01:17:04.900 We're going to go.

01:17:05.760 Give it up for Shabar, everybody.

01:17:07.280 All right.

01:17:08.340 All right.

01:17:10.900 Our next person, I don't even know how to read that.

01:17:14.040 Jack Travis.

01:17:14.920 Is there a Jack Travis?

01:17:15.940 Is that what that says?

01:17:16.560 Let's go, Jack.

01:17:19.360 Come on down.

01:17:20.000 Jack Travis.

01:17:20.820 Is that the right name?

01:17:21.640 Right here.

01:17:22.100 Come on.

01:17:23.180 Let's go.

01:17:23.740 Give it up for Jack.

01:17:25.580 And we want to try to get through the rest of the names, so let's get going, guys.

01:17:27.940 All right, Jack, you got one minute, bud.

01:17:29.620 Hi.

01:17:30.120 So, my name is Jack Travis.

01:17:31.700 I'm from Cincinnati, Ohio.

01:17:33.460 And one of the things I've come to care quite a lot about is labor rights.

01:17:37.820 At the gas station I'm working at, they do ice cream, they do roller food, and they

01:17:42.920 do all the normal snacks and stuff, and they're constantly understaffing the stores, which

01:17:51.280 is leading to worker stress, worker turnover, and they're refusing to pay people what they're

01:17:56.040 worth, and I was thinking that there should be some loss potential in place that for however

01:18:00.920 many grills you have in, like, let's say, Wendy's, you have to employ this amount of

01:18:05.080 people because the effect it has mentally on workers, I think, is unacceptable.

01:18:09.740 No.

01:18:10.300 You have no right to someone else's money.

01:18:12.920 Oh, also, you know how much I made at Sonny's gas station in 1984?

01:18:19.880 $3.50 an hour.

01:18:21.840 Yeah.

01:18:22.620 You're a pussy, dude.

01:18:24.460 Run around.

01:18:25.260 You're at the fitness peak of your life.

01:18:28.100 You should be running around.

01:18:29.300 You should be covering in sweat.

01:18:31.740 Give it up, everybody.

01:18:33.120 These people are in favor of big corporations.

01:18:34.260 Wendy's should have more people on the grill.

01:18:36.580 They're in favor of the big elites, so they're fine with Trump putting, because they're all

01:18:41.040 about mass deportation, but when Trump says, oh, but not the hotels, oh, but not the agriculture,

01:18:45.660 they don't give a shit.

01:18:46.540 That's not what we're talking about.

01:18:47.680 Guys.

01:18:48.140 Let me address it.

01:18:49.560 Let me address this.

01:18:49.920 And they don't give the shit about workers.

01:18:51.680 Let me address this.

01:18:52.260 Let me address this.

01:18:53.520 I'm in favor of labor rights, but these rights are things like your boss can't fire you based

01:18:58.320 on your race or something, or they shouldn't be hiring based on race.

01:19:00.700 We have those.

01:19:00.880 That's the stat.

01:19:01.340 And we do have those.

01:19:02.400 But the idea that you would work at a shop and you're like, hey, you don't give me enough

01:19:06.260 money.

01:19:06.740 It's like, there's the door, buddy.

01:19:07.920 It's my gas station.

01:19:09.140 Go find a job somewhere else.

01:19:10.740 I think that at this point, especially with how urban some areas have gotten, that there's

01:19:17.380 too many people and that they're able to one by one exploit people and move on.

01:19:21.860 You are correct.

01:19:22.560 Get rid of the illegal immigrants to create more competition in the labor market.

01:19:25.540 No, no.

01:19:25.940 I know.

01:19:26.300 I agree with that.

01:19:27.580 That has made our labor market the amount of people they can exploit huge.

01:19:31.640 And they can even do worse wages than they'd have to give to an American.

01:19:35.580 You should quit.

01:19:36.320 Why don't you quit?

01:19:37.540 Me?

01:19:37.880 I am.

01:19:38.500 It's a summer job.

01:19:39.280 I'm quitting pretty soon.

01:19:40.500 So the problem is.

01:19:41.360 Oh, great.

01:19:41.680 So this poor bastard has to find a new employee.

01:19:44.040 The problem is you are willing to complain, but not willing to take action.

01:19:47.880 And your boss says, if that's, I can do it, I can do it.

01:19:50.640 And so if everybody who worked there walked out, he'd be like, please stop.

01:19:54.120 No, come back.

01:19:54.760 What do you want?

01:19:55.620 But you guys aren't willing to take the action necessary.

01:19:58.460 This is what has always bothered me in my whole life of someone coming out and being

01:20:02.000 like, I want something you've got.

01:20:04.220 I won't do anything to get it, but I will ask the government to point a gun at you and

01:20:07.980 take it from you.

01:20:08.540 No, I think I, well, I mean, you brought up the illegal immigration.

01:20:13.900 I think there's, I think there's, yeah, I, so as far as the illegal, like you brought

01:20:20.880 up the illegal immigration, I think there's a surplus of workforce in America right now

01:20:25.660 that makes it impossible for workers, especially in these lower end jobs that often do not have

01:20:30.680 unions to enforce their rights.

01:20:32.780 Unions won't help you.

01:20:33.820 Wait, I don't understand.

01:20:34.460 Have you ever been in a union?

01:20:35.780 What?

01:20:36.220 Have you ever been in a union?

01:20:37.720 Not yet.

01:20:38.380 See, I've been in several unions and all they do is fuck me up the ass.

01:20:41.260 And so I said, fuck you, motherfucker.

01:20:42.660 No, I hate that shit.

01:20:43.840 I do.

01:20:44.400 I love, I love collective bargaining.

01:20:46.560 I hate corporate unions.

01:20:47.620 You're saying there's a shortage of labor, correct?

01:20:49.660 No, I'm saying there, I'm saying there's a short, there's a surplus of like labor workers.

01:20:54.480 There's a, uh.

01:20:55.760 We're in a record of unemployment in this country.

01:20:58.500 Well, I mean.

01:20:58.940 Be honest.

01:20:59.480 I can, I can at least.

01:21:00.520 What's participation at?

01:21:01.860 Yeah, all these numbers tracked.

01:21:03.660 What's participation?

01:21:04.740 Yeah.

01:21:04.920 Yeah, it's, it's always like 10, like 13%.

01:21:07.300 With participation, we're at 7.5.

01:21:08.840 Yeah, no.

01:21:09.200 So, but like the thing is, all these numbers track.

01:21:11.200 And so we, in terms of the metrics that we always look at, we are at record unemployment.

01:21:14.580 There's not a labor surplus in this country, sir.

01:21:16.640 It's a shortage.

01:21:17.520 I, I mean, I just, one thing I do want to mention with the workforce participation,

01:21:22.460 I think there's a lot of people who work really hard and put a lot of applications to get

01:21:26.260 jobs.

01:21:27.060 And a lot of jobs are ignoring those people.

01:21:29.780 Yeah.

01:21:29.880 I, I, I, I, I, I actually, there's a labor shortage in this country.

01:21:34.020 Trump often claims, wow, we have record unemployment.

01:21:36.320 He's actually right about that.

01:21:37.720 There's a labor shortage in this country.

01:21:39.200 I actually, I actually want to agree with you, but it's, but it's largely due to participation

01:21:43.400 being down.

01:21:44.440 All right, guys, give it up.

01:21:45.200 Give it up for this kid, Jack.

01:21:46.040 All right, but Jack, Jack, you're a little kid.

01:21:48.980 You just started the workforce.

01:21:50.300 You're not allowed to complain.

01:21:51.260 It's like asking for.

01:21:52.160 On a first date, it's not happening.

01:21:54.880 Put your nose to the grindstone.

01:21:56.820 Gavin, Gavin, based on today's women, I don't know.

01:21:59.320 Hey, one last thing.

01:22:00.220 We'll check back in with you in like five years.

01:22:02.360 One last thing.

01:22:03.400 Peace Co., what's the dog, the top or the bottom?

01:22:06.940 Are you going to answer the question?

01:22:09.080 You finished strong.

01:22:10.120 I did not expect that burn from Jack.

01:22:12.520 Yeah, that was a heavy burn.

01:22:13.640 That's a good thing for six times.

01:22:14.740 Pretty intense.

01:22:15.920 All right.

01:22:16.960 Now, our next.

01:22:18.060 Is the problem that all you guys think you're above getting beer

01:22:21.400 and you just like delegate it to the lower classes?

01:22:24.180 I don't know.

01:22:24.840 You're not special.

01:22:26.560 The talent needs a fucking beer.

01:22:29.480 Gavin needs a beer.

01:22:30.420 You're like, go get Gavin a beer.

01:22:31.580 No, you go get Gavin a beer.

01:22:32.620 No, go get.

01:22:33.040 And then he keeps going down the line to zero.

01:22:34.660 I got back to Gavin a beer last time.

01:22:35.300 All right.

01:22:35.500 It's like fucking prohibition up here.

01:22:37.180 Our next person, Dollface Actual.

01:22:41.580 Who is Dollface Actual?

01:22:43.120 Is Dollface Actual here?

01:22:45.420 That's a weird name.

01:22:45.960 Everybody give it up for Dollface Actual.

01:22:50.120 She looks hot.

01:22:51.840 It's hot.

01:22:52.700 Come on down, Dollface.

01:22:54.340 You got.

01:22:55.460 Can confirm.

01:23:00.620 Hello.

01:23:01.280 Good afternoon, gentlemen.

01:23:02.580 And I want to shout out the couple chicks that are here with.

01:23:05.400 Shut up, man.

01:23:06.780 Guys, get the bald asshole.

01:23:07.540 Shut the fuck up.

01:23:08.460 Somebody just kick the bald asshole out of here.

01:23:10.200 You're not at your house.

01:23:11.500 You're at an event.

01:23:12.600 We're trying to do it.

01:23:13.240 We're trying to include people.

01:23:14.260 And you're just being an asshole.

01:23:15.620 Make it about you.

01:23:16.300 Yeah, you suck.

01:23:17.640 So much shit.

01:23:18.640 It's insane.

01:23:19.340 I know, but it's just frustrating.

01:23:20.980 They're asking you, Alex.

01:23:21.720 You really want an opportunity.

01:23:23.300 Yeah, no, literally.

01:23:24.160 You're like a chick at a Bachelorette.

01:23:26.420 Shut your fucking mouth.

01:23:28.380 Seriously.

01:23:29.000 All right.

01:23:29.800 Now, Dollface, you got one minute.

01:23:31.920 Thank you so much.

01:23:33.340 Okay, so I actually had the pleasure of meeting Tim last year at Rescue the Republic.

01:23:38.420 It was my first event as press, actually.

01:23:41.620 Apparently?

01:23:42.720 Huh?

01:23:42.960 You sound like the apparently kid.

01:23:46.020 You look like the apparently kid.

01:23:50.080 Anyway, I actually have a series of questions under Samuel Huntington's Clash of Civilizations

01:23:57.840 and Francis Fukuyama's End of History theories that I asked military veterans for the most part.

01:24:05.540 I'm a Marine Corps veteran.

01:24:07.300 Army!

01:24:08.140 Free service.

01:24:08.880 I got Dollface as a name on an engagement where the women and children did my makeup in Afghanistan.

01:24:16.080 So it's, you know, not what people generally think.

01:24:19.100 But I'd like to ask Tim, if not the rest of the panel, my first among a series of true-false questions that,

01:24:27.920 excuse me, that I generally ask military veterans who have been to war.

01:24:36.120 Okay.

01:24:37.240 Okay, ask your question.

01:24:38.300 We're ready.

01:24:38.820 You haven't said anything.

01:24:40.220 Well, we're waiting.

01:24:41.940 Okay, ask the question.

01:24:43.200 So the question is, and it's interesting with this whole culture wars phenomenon.

01:24:47.480 Oh, God.

01:24:48.180 This is garbage.

01:24:49.700 Do you have PTSD?

01:24:50.480 No, I'm talking.

01:24:51.920 Okay, well, I'm skipping him.

01:24:53.320 He's not included anymore.

01:24:54.300 I'm going to ask Tim and everybody else.

01:24:55.620 What's the question?

01:24:56.040 War is fought between cultures, not countries.

01:24:59.660 True or false?

01:25:01.340 False.

01:25:02.880 Can you explain why you would think so?

01:25:04.620 Especially at an event that is called the culture wars?

01:25:07.540 The Donbass region is largely ethnic Russian, but they're in Ukraine and Ukraine is occupying it.

01:25:12.660 That's where Russia came in.

01:25:13.780 It's two nations fighting over an area they deem to be ethnically theirs or legally theirs.

01:25:21.180 Germany invaded Poland and the Sudetenland claiming that it was actually German.

01:25:24.500 So I understand your point about culture, but it was the nations that I'm asked to force

01:25:28.200 to go and fight for what they perceive to be their territory.

01:25:30.940 So are you saying false?

01:25:32.980 Is it false?

01:25:33.780 Are you saying false?

01:25:34.540 Yeah, it's false.

01:25:35.120 I mean, like, if you look at World War I, for example, probably, like, the German then

01:25:38.440 existing system was closer to some of the other Western allies than it was to Russians.

01:25:42.840 Sorry, it's Russia.

01:25:44.440 May I ask another true-false question?

01:25:46.260 Yeah, hurry.

01:25:46.640 If everywhere in the world was a democracy, there would be no war.

01:25:51.200 True or false?

01:25:51.620 False.

01:25:54.820 Do you think everywhere in the world will eventually arrive at a democracy?

01:25:57.860 No.

01:25:58.260 No, false.

01:26:00.660 This is an awesome sample size.

01:26:02.240 Thank you so much, guys.

01:26:02.980 All right.

01:26:03.200 Thank you, dull face.

01:26:05.120 All right.

01:26:05.740 Now, the next one.

01:26:08.160 Devesh Patel.

01:26:09.380 Devesh Patel.

01:26:10.320 No.

01:26:11.420 No.

01:26:13.180 If you're allowed to kick that guy out for being bullied, then...

01:26:17.080 Okay, then Devesh.

01:26:18.500 It's Matan's thing.

01:26:19.820 No.

01:26:20.720 Devesh, that's a no.

01:26:22.340 All right.

01:26:23.260 Do you really not want to?

01:26:24.500 No, I'll allow it because now I feel bad.

01:26:26.440 It's made a whole thing.

01:26:27.780 Okay, we'll carry you out.

01:26:28.360 Because if you don't let him ask a question, I'm going to have to come on you as hard as you are on Pisco, man.

01:26:32.480 That's fine.

01:26:33.040 Just don't have him sitting next to me.

01:26:34.340 Okay, we won't.

01:26:35.040 Don't worry.

01:26:35.560 All right, Devesh, what do you got for us?

01:26:37.460 All right.

01:26:38.260 Trump's not winning because of Epstein and some of the things you said he promised he's not delivering on.

01:26:44.540 Are you kidding me?

01:26:46.500 In 2007, Obama campaigned on being against gay marriage.

01:26:52.980 And then in his second term, he went back on that.

01:26:55.680 And he campaigned on strong borders, too.

01:26:59.760 And universal health care.

01:27:01.160 And his deportations.

01:27:02.580 And universal health care.

01:27:04.940 Do you have an answer to that?

01:27:06.440 You're being super hypocritical in all your statements.

01:27:09.560 And you're taking 90% of the mic real estate.

01:27:12.020 That's not a good debate strategy.

01:27:13.260 Yeah, so is your question, does the Epstein debacle look better by comparison because Obama, what, did an about face on gay marriage?

01:27:21.560 Is that your point?

01:27:22.040 No, my point is I think most of the audience is smart enough to understand how campaigning and presidential campaigns work.

01:27:29.920 So he lied about Epstein.

01:27:31.320 Did Obama lie about being against gay marriage?

01:27:35.320 Okay.

01:27:36.260 Well, gay marriage impacts a broader audience in the United States than Epstein does.

01:27:41.380 So to be clear, that's where we're going in terms of whether a presidency is success is if the promise of another president affects more literal people.

01:27:49.400 If you look at Trump's voter base in the heartland, the people that got him elected in the swing states, they do not give a fuck about Epstein.

01:27:57.700 They give a fuck about the things that matter.

01:27:59.420 This is the gaslight now.

01:28:00.300 The gaslight is we never cared about Epstein.

01:28:02.720 It wasn't important at all.

01:28:04.140 Is that really?

01:28:04.460 No, it's true.

01:28:05.320 It was Epstein.

01:28:06.040 You and your liberal crowd, it's your last hope.

01:28:08.260 It's all you've got.

01:28:09.260 Wait a second.

01:28:10.600 So you won't even concede that we got you there, right?

01:28:14.220 Literally, everybody here is like, yeah, we're mad about him.

01:28:16.340 No, no, no, not him, not him.

01:28:17.360 You might get us there is what we're conceding.

01:28:19.920 Wait, wait, wait.

01:28:20.580 So do you concede that I have a point with Epstein?

01:28:24.000 I have a point.

01:28:24.480 Probably.

01:28:25.980 Look, I personally don't believe you have a point.

01:28:28.300 Oh.

01:28:29.460 Do you agree with what Trump's doing with Epstein files?

01:28:31.560 We don't have the intel files to make an educated decision on Epstein.

01:28:36.040 Neither do you.

01:28:36.640 Wait, wait, but you guys alleged that this was a pedophile ring to cover up Democratic

01:28:41.020 sex crimes, and you didn't have the evidence then, did you?

01:28:43.140 Nobody said Democrat.

01:28:44.360 No, you did.

01:28:45.180 Don't fuck.

01:28:46.080 Come on.

01:28:46.720 Nobody said Democrat.

01:28:47.820 I disagree with the premise of your argument.

01:28:49.800 Wait, so you don't think that claims were made, for example, by Dan Bongino, W. Director

01:28:53.180 of the FBI, that there actually is corruption?

01:28:56.020 But hold on.

01:28:56.660 Biden was president for four years after Epstein was arrested.

01:29:03.200 I don't know how that's responsive.

01:29:04.500 How is that responsive to whether Trump is fucking up?

01:29:05.920 Why didn't he release the files, and why did you criticize him about it?

01:29:08.520 So how is that responsive to whether Trump is fucking up?

01:29:10.500 I'm going on your turn.

01:29:11.880 Okay, if we're going to go on my terms.

01:29:13.860 Yeah.

01:29:14.240 Let's go on.

01:29:15.380 Well, can you answer that?

01:29:16.140 Can you answer?

01:29:17.120 Wait, wait.

01:29:17.820 I'm happy to do that.

01:29:18.620 Can you answer that first?

01:29:19.480 Do you agree that Trump's fucking up on the Epstein files, yes or no?

01:29:21.580 I disagree.

01:29:22.260 I don't think he's fucking up.

01:29:22.920 We gave you that.

01:29:23.540 We said probably.

01:29:24.280 He's not.

01:29:24.560 He's not.

01:29:24.780 All right, move on.

01:29:25.740 All right, so let's talk about the win.

01:29:28.420 We just had the first budget surplus in June.

01:29:31.480 Dude, you're so stupid.

01:29:33.200 You read Twitter files, and you're like, oh, my God.

01:29:35.280 No, it's literally on the Treasury's website, dumbass.

01:29:38.880 Yeah, so that happens.

01:29:40.160 Look it up.

01:29:41.420 There's a budget surplus in June.

01:29:43.400 People didn't expect that tariffs were bringing in as much money as they are.

01:29:46.440 The surplus.

01:29:46.880 And they are bringing in money, and there's more deals being made.

01:29:49.740 So I'm going to explain why you're fucking stupid.

01:29:52.200 All right, come up for three minutes.

01:29:54.240 Come on.

01:29:54.560 Hurry, hurry, hurry.

01:29:55.280 The reason why it looks, I'll wait for him.

01:30:02.000 Come on, Devesh.

01:30:03.120 Come on, Devesh.

01:30:04.400 In June 2025, the U.S. federal government ran a budget surplus of approximately $27 billion.

01:30:09.580 You're a sheep, right?

01:30:10.580 Do you know the last time there was a budget surplus?

01:30:13.520 I'm asking you.

01:30:14.300 Do you want me to learn yet?

01:30:15.460 Hey, expert.

01:30:16.500 When was the last time there was a budget surplus?

01:30:18.360 So in 2020, 2021, I'm answering the question.

01:30:22.500 I'm going to explain to you why you're fucking stupid.

01:30:24.300 So in 2020, 2021, under a Biden administration, there were months in which they clocked a surplus.

01:30:29.400 You know when they were?

01:30:30.220 In like June, because you know when they fucking collect taxes, dipshit?

01:30:34.120 No, the budget surplus was due to tariff revenue.

01:30:36.960 Go to the fiscal.

01:30:38.220 Oh, my God.

01:30:38.580 Go to the treasury website.

01:30:40.840 In June of 2024, there was a $71 billion deficit.

01:30:44.580 Yeah, I know.

01:30:45.180 So you're full of shit, bro.

01:30:46.680 No, but tech in 2020.

01:30:47.500 You can talk into the mic all this entire time.

01:30:50.460 This is not the first time on record it happened under Biden's presidency.

01:30:53.180 When did it happen?

01:30:53.960 The last U.S. federal budget surplus occurred in fiscal year 2001.

01:30:57.440 No, no, no, no.

01:30:57.920 Which was the full-

01:30:58.600 2001?

01:30:59.220 So it happened during Biden.

01:31:00.900 You just said it happened during Biden.

01:31:02.460 You're shitting your pants right now.

01:31:03.740 When did it happen?

01:31:04.440 So it happened during Biden's presidency.

01:31:07.100 When?

01:31:07.760 It happened during Biden's-

01:31:08.920 When?

01:31:09.580 When did it happen?

01:31:10.520 So it happened during Biden's presidency.

01:31:12.100 I don't have the exact month right now.

01:31:13.420 Yeah, you don't because you're stupid.

01:31:15.040 Who's the dumbass?

01:31:16.000 So the reason-

01:31:16.780 So this is not affecting the overall deficit.

01:31:19.360 No, it is affecting the overall deficit.

01:31:21.400 Go to the treasury website.

01:31:22.740 All right.

01:31:23.120 So what's going to happen is you're going to-

01:31:24.820 In this specific month, when they're collecting taxes-

01:31:28.240 No, that's not how that works.

01:31:29.500 Yes, it is.

01:31:29.820 Yes, it is.

01:31:30.140 No, it's not.

01:31:30.600 Yes, it is.

01:31:30.900 Go to the treasury website.

01:31:32.140 I can cite all my fucking sources.

01:31:33.940 You look like a fucking idiot.

01:31:33.960 You're a sheep.

01:31:34.400 Yeah.

01:31:34.580 So yes, on the month to month, on this month, they posted a budget's third post.

01:31:38.820 You want to know why?

01:31:39.860 Because they are having additional tariff revenues.

01:31:41.920 That's correct.

01:31:43.020 And how much are the additional tariff revenues?

01:31:44.960 But overall, they're, you know, I don't know, $20 billion, something like that.

01:31:48.680 Oh, $100 billion.

01:31:51.260 I said $20 billion, something like that.

01:31:52.640 But overall, these tariffs are not going to have a growth effect on the economy.

01:31:56.300 They're not.

01:31:56.840 Why not?

01:31:57.400 Overall, in the long term, it would be stupid to look at one particular month.

01:32:01.320 Why not?

01:32:02.200 Because you look over the entire fiscal year.

01:32:04.520 Obviously, you don't just look at the month in which all the fucking income revenues are

01:32:07.860 coming in.

01:32:07.940 They were just implemented.

01:32:09.280 They were just implemented.

01:32:10.580 You're going to look at the month right after they're implemented.

01:32:12.900 This dipshit wants you to believe that we just spent the most amount of money on any

01:32:16.520 single bill in the history of the country.

01:32:17.780 And he wants to tell you that the budget situation is fine because on one month, when

01:32:21.460 we're collecting all these tax revenues, when we're collecting all these tax revenues,

01:32:24.620 it posted a surplus when we had that back in Biden's administration.

01:32:27.780 I would not start an argument calling the guy a dipshit and a fucking retard.

01:32:31.480 He read that.

01:32:32.180 Especially when you lose, it looks really bad.

01:32:34.040 First of all, first of all, first of all, first of all, so I'm absolutely, look, too,

01:32:38.040 that big, beautiful bill, which is now the big, beautiful law, most of the money went

01:32:42.980 into ICE and border security.

01:32:45.720 None of you dumbass liberals are, none of you, okay, well.

01:32:48.860 How much money in ICE?

01:32:50.820 Let me, let me, let me.

01:32:51.680 How much money in ICE?

01:32:52.680 Let me, let me just, we're going to get this one point you're going to agree with.

01:32:54.900 How much money in ICE?

01:32:55.420 Let me just bring you this fact.

01:32:57.760 How much money?

01:32:58.360 No, none of you liberals are doing the math on when those liberals are coming in.

01:33:03.240 I'm sorry, when those illegals are coming in, how much of our public tax dollars are

01:33:09.520 going towards their kids' benefits, free food, free financial aid?

01:33:14.540 He's trying to convince you.

01:33:15.420 How much they're leeching and bleeding from the system?

01:33:17.820 How much are they leeching from the system?

01:33:19.680 So how much, how much money, how much money are they spending on ICE?

01:33:22.480 Do you know or do you not know?

01:33:23.700 You can just say you don't know.

01:33:24.900 I don't know.

01:33:25.560 Okay.

01:33:25.900 The exact number.

01:33:26.880 Yeah.

01:33:27.280 So unless you.

01:33:28.160 But how much is it?

01:33:28.940 Tell me.

01:33:29.140 Yeah.

01:33:29.300 So it's like $40 billion on ICE.

01:33:31.900 Combining with CBP funding, you know, maybe $100 billion overall in terms of wall funding

01:33:36.240 and all that stuff.

01:33:36.900 The overall.

01:33:38.000 I'm not, no, no, no.

01:33:38.780 Just, just check the numbers.

01:33:39.780 Check the numbers.

01:33:40.420 What's your source?

01:33:41.160 So the whole point is you agree, don't you, that the tax cuts are much more than the

01:33:46.180 value of the DHS spending.

01:33:48.300 Yes.

01:33:49.960 Yes or no.

01:33:52.180 So you were wrong when you said that most of that money is going to DHS spending, correct?

01:33:56.880 Okay.

01:33:57.340 Were you wrong about that?

01:33:58.320 Maybe I was wrong on most of that money going to DHS spending, but that money going to DHS

01:34:02.900 spending on ICE is actually going to help us long-term because we're going to save money

01:34:07.680 from the money that's going to be leashed.

01:34:09.660 It's called reinvesting in the company.

01:34:11.520 Illegal immigrants and their welfare.

01:34:13.620 Then why is Trump saying, then why is Trump proposing that there's going to be a giant

01:34:18.860 hole in their deportation strategy for all these different industries?

01:34:25.400 Based on the policies that are being implemented.

01:34:28.560 Can you answer that?

01:34:29.380 That's not true.

01:34:29.900 Wait, so he's not saying and meeting with these farmers, these hotel workers, he's not

01:34:34.620 making these statements like, oh, we got to protect the farmers.

01:34:37.000 Do you agree he's making those statements?

01:34:38.840 Do you agree that border crossings are at an all-time low and that saves the money, save

01:34:43.980 the country money long-term and it saves us, the entire country, from leeching our tax

01:34:50.120 dollars when you devoured illegals?

01:34:51.800 Again, tough love.

01:34:54.320 Great work.

01:34:54.960 Great work.

01:34:55.800 All right.

01:34:56.160 Now, Matan picked this name.

01:34:58.960 So you want to announce him, Matan?

01:35:00.820 Michael Jackson.

01:35:02.020 No.

01:35:02.520 He's here?

01:35:03.240 It's Michael Rockle.

01:35:04.380 He died.

01:35:05.420 I was close.

01:35:06.300 You were close.

01:35:07.000 I got half of it wrong.

01:35:07.760 You got 50% of it correct, yes.

01:35:09.780 Michael Rockle.

01:35:10.620 Is there a Michael Rockle here?

01:35:11.780 Michael Rockle.

01:35:12.960 I don't know why I was allowed.

01:35:13.860 Maybe that was the guy who kicked out.

01:35:15.440 Oh, that might have been.

01:35:16.480 No.

01:35:16.720 Oh, yeah.

01:35:17.060 That might have been the guy that we kicked out.

01:35:18.940 He already got picked once.

01:35:19.800 Did he get kicked out?

01:35:20.740 I was joking.

01:35:21.180 It's a lot quieter in here.

01:35:22.640 Yeah, I know.

01:35:23.080 We can actually record something.

01:35:24.540 Okay.

01:35:25.400 Michael Jackson.

01:35:26.460 No, it's not Michael Jackson.

01:35:28.080 It's Joseph Tremaler.

01:35:30.400 Tremor.

01:35:30.980 Joseph Jackson.

01:35:32.140 Joseph Jackson.

01:35:33.100 Joseph, come on down.

01:35:33.880 Joe Jackson.

01:35:34.540 Mike's dad.

01:35:35.100 We only got about six left.

01:35:36.520 So let's try to get through this so we can get everybody.

01:35:38.940 Alex.

01:35:39.520 Switch back.

01:35:40.680 Hey, everyone.

01:35:41.060 So on if Trump is winning, at least from the Texas perspective, I can tell you that it's

01:35:47.160 a huge, huge win.

01:35:49.440 Texas spent billions securing the southern border, and we just got paid back for that.

01:35:54.940 And not only that, we're going to spend another billions and billions on now kicking off mass

01:36:02.380 deportations in Texas with the National Guard getting ready for two large detention facilities.

01:36:09.180 And we're deputizing National Guard JAG officers so they can process these people out of here.

01:36:17.460 So that being said, huge win for the border issue from Texas.

01:36:21.900 What about the flooding issue in Texas?

01:36:24.300 You think that was a huge win?

01:36:25.520 I'm talking about the border issue.

01:36:26.920 That was God.

01:36:28.280 You think that's Trump's fault?

01:36:29.780 Trump doesn't control the weather.

01:36:31.080 So I think that Trump's attack on, like, emergency response is fucking shameful.

01:36:37.060 And I think, for example, when you have FEMA whistleblower...

01:36:42.920 What do you know about the flood response, by the way?

01:36:44.720 Because I was actually in Kerrville, and I can tell you about it.

01:36:47.420 Okay.

01:36:47.860 So I think that when you have whistleblowers coming out and saying that, like, because

01:36:51.240 of these new policies for Christine Noem, that they were delayed in their calls, that

01:36:54.920 when they, you know...

01:36:55.900 So do you deny that?

01:36:57.160 Do you deny that?

01:36:57.980 I deny that.

01:36:58.660 I was there on the ground, day one.

01:37:02.020 Defunding the National Weather Service.

01:37:03.760 Defunding FEMA.

01:37:04.100 Give it up.

01:37:04.860 When was the last time...

01:37:05.680 Give it up, guys.

01:37:06.380 Give it up.

01:37:06.920 Is this every Republican in D.C.?

01:37:09.620 Piska, when was the last time you were in Texas?

01:37:12.380 In Texas?

01:37:13.340 A while back.

01:37:14.320 A while back?

01:37:15.060 Not during the floods?

01:37:15.720 In transit.

01:37:16.160 No, not in the floods.

01:37:16.840 You've never been?

01:37:18.140 I've been to Texas in transit.

01:37:19.440 You've never been?

01:37:20.260 I've never been.

01:37:21.420 No, I've never been.

01:37:22.420 Okay.

01:37:22.880 What do you got for us?

01:37:25.020 Yeah, no.

01:37:25.520 It's the border issue for a Texan is the biggest win that we could possibly have gotten.

01:37:33.860 And there for a little bit, it looked like Trump wasn't going to do mass deportations

01:37:37.660 with focusing only on dangerous criminals.

01:37:39.500 But that has changed with the National Guard being involved.

01:37:44.260 Now we've got National Guard members protecting ICE officers on the streets of Texas.

01:37:49.220 So, big, big win.

01:37:51.740 So you're happy that we're not focusing on dangerous criminals?

01:37:54.940 I want them all out.

01:37:55.980 We're focusing on dangerous illegal criminals.

01:37:57.980 Yes.

01:37:58.280 So, you just said that we're not focusing on dangerous criminals anymore.

01:38:01.920 I don't...

01:38:02.280 Why is that a win?

01:38:03.220 No.

01:38:03.960 We want to get them all out.

01:38:06.040 So, is the answer, you don't want to focus on dangerous criminals?

01:38:11.040 Come on, ask a real question.

01:38:12.280 I don't like this thing you do.

01:38:13.700 Why?

01:38:14.680 No one...

01:38:15.300 Deport them all.

01:38:16.280 Deport them all.

01:38:17.240 So, you're saying babies are sexy?

01:38:18.540 Yes or no?

01:38:19.500 Stop.

01:38:20.140 So, you want a baby to wear lingerie?

01:38:21.600 The reason why you don't want me when I get clarity is you're uncomfortable.

01:38:24.820 You're uncomfortable.

01:38:25.580 Answer that guy's question.

01:38:26.460 You're uncomfortable.

01:38:28.980 You're uncomfortable.

01:38:29.720 For the crowd who didn't hear it, he was out once again.

01:38:32.240 If he was a dog and he continues to not answer.

01:38:34.800 You're uncomfortable.

01:38:35.480 You're uncomfortable with the notion.

01:38:36.780 Come on, please.

01:38:37.140 Go ask a real question.

01:38:37.980 That's a real question.

01:38:38.820 No one is.

01:38:39.180 Yes, it is.

01:38:39.740 No one thinks it is.

01:38:40.520 No one thinks you're being genuine.

01:38:41.440 Yeah.

01:38:41.760 No, I'm being genuine.

01:38:42.600 So, you're uncomfortable.

01:38:42.900 You don't want to get criminals anymore?

01:38:44.520 Oh, come on.

01:38:44.740 So, you like crime.

01:38:45.640 Listen, he brought it up.

01:38:46.980 Hang on a second.

01:38:47.460 So, you're a rape enthusiast.

01:38:48.580 Hang on a second.

01:38:50.140 You're going to accuse me of being bad faith and asking that question when he said,

01:38:54.060 I'm so happy that we're not focusing on violent criminals.

01:38:56.400 I am happy we're deporting them all.

01:38:58.380 For asking him, wait, you think that's a win?

01:38:59.780 He answered you already.

01:39:00.900 Okay.

01:39:01.080 He clarified for you, so move on.

01:39:02.680 All right.

01:39:02.960 So, I think that it's actually good policy for the government to be focusing on violent

01:39:06.420 criminals.

01:39:07.120 I think that's what a bunch of...

01:39:08.160 They're not deporting Consuela.

01:39:10.160 They're deporting fucking facial tattoos.

01:39:13.200 They are deporting Consuela.

01:39:14.600 That's what they want to do.

01:39:15.200 They're deporting...

01:39:15.860 And they should.

01:39:16.680 Coleman is starting at the top with the worst, and he's working his way down.

01:39:20.600 And sometimes Consuela's working on a pot farm in California.

01:39:23.780 With kids.

01:39:25.320 With kids.

01:39:26.260 Those kids aren't there by choice.

01:39:27.340 So, what you're proposing, right, this policy is absolutely, when you have arbitrary numbers

01:39:32.080 that Stephen Miller is giving them, they're going to get the Consuela's of the world.

01:39:35.480 And if what you're saying is they're not going after Consuela's...

01:39:37.060 And?

01:39:37.080 Thank God for that.

01:39:38.080 And?

01:39:38.540 Okay.

01:39:39.100 But I think that that's why Trump's approval numbers on immigration are going down.

01:39:42.940 I think most Americans, if you ask them...

01:39:45.480 Thank you!

01:39:46.300 If you ask them...

01:39:47.280 The reason the numbers are going down is because people thought he wasn't doing mass deportations,

01:39:52.120 and he is.

01:39:52.640 You know Mexico is constantly deporting illegal aliens from Mexico, right?

01:39:56.680 You know that Jamaica is constantly deporting illegal aliens from Mexico?

01:40:01.120 Well, it sure sounds like it.

01:40:02.400 It sounds like you guys don't understand that everyone has an ICE.

01:40:05.320 Obama was the deporter-in-chief, right?

01:40:06.880 Yeah.

01:40:07.020 Oh, get ready, baby.

01:40:08.040 Get ready.

01:40:08.860 It's about to get real.

01:40:10.160 So, just to be clear, you guys take this position that Democrats are always against deportation

01:40:15.380 when you have Obama deporting...

01:40:17.560 Yeah, you didn't know that.

01:40:19.100 When you have Bill Clinton...

01:40:20.580 Democrats are stunned when you tell them how many people Obama deported.

01:40:24.120 All right, give it up for this guy.

01:40:25.220 We've got to get through it.

01:40:26.120 Thank you.

01:40:26.500 Give it up.

01:40:26.920 All right.

01:40:27.060 Thank you, everybody.

01:40:27.680 Give it up.

01:40:28.500 All right.

01:40:28.860 Steve Feldman.

01:40:29.760 Come on down, Steve.

01:40:30.760 Is Steve Feldman here?

01:40:31.780 Hurry up, Steve.

01:40:32.600 We've only got a few more to get through.

01:40:34.020 That was actually pretty quick.

01:40:35.220 Yeah, that was good.

01:40:36.080 All right, Steve.

01:40:36.740 What do you got for us?

01:40:38.600 So, I'm a cat guy like my boy, Alex Stein.

01:40:42.460 Yes, sir.

01:40:42.560 I just want to know, is my cat safe?

01:40:45.500 Does he transfer over?

01:40:48.600 Seriously, though, I want to debate Serge.

01:40:54.100 Serge, why you got Pisco's gain up so high?

01:40:56.920 This clown, this whiny clown, does what communists always do.

01:41:03.560 He's filibustering.

01:41:04.680 He won't shut the fuck up.

01:41:06.360 And every point he makes is deliberately obtuse, it's deceptive, and it's lying, it's twisted.

01:41:16.080 Name one lie.

01:41:17.060 A single lie.

01:41:18.280 Name a single lie.

01:41:18.900 No, you're right.

01:41:19.440 You're acting like Wong Kim Ark wasn't a permanent domiciled resident, so you're trying to act

01:41:24.300 like that case applied to illegal aliens.

01:41:27.280 Wait, wait.

01:41:27.620 When did I represent, will you acknowledge that I did not represent that Wong Kim Ark was

01:41:31.960 an illegal immigrant?

01:41:32.660 You acknowledged I didn't lie about that, correct?

01:41:34.420 You're acting like that case applies to illegal immigrants.

01:41:37.800 Just because-

01:41:38.320 When it had nothing to do with illegal immigration.

01:41:40.520 Just because a case has a-

01:41:42.000 You said one point.

01:41:42.820 There's one point.

01:41:43.540 There you go.

01:41:44.260 So, there's nothing about my statement on Wong Kim Ark that's a lie at all.

01:41:47.900 I said that the broader legal principle in that is that if people born in the country,

01:41:51.940 except for the historical English common law-

01:41:54.400 Who's a permanent resident?

01:41:55.360 Doesn't apply to the legal-

01:41:56.200 You don't want to hear it.

01:41:56.740 If you don't want to hear it, there's no line of what I said, and you can't identify one

01:41:59.820 other than one of your own creation.

01:42:01.560 Wong Kim Ark does stand for the proposition that I cited it for, and that's the fact.

01:42:05.440 I do want to just interject as well, when you said he won't shut up, to be fair, we

01:42:09.380 asked him to be here.

01:42:10.420 Yeah.

01:42:10.740 We want him to talk.

01:42:11.560 We didn't invite him.

01:42:13.780 Fair enough.

01:42:14.600 But, he's talking over everyone.

01:42:16.200 Gavin tried to take his mic away.

01:42:18.060 We all want that.

01:42:19.280 Give the crowd what they want.

01:42:20.780 Game down, sir.

01:42:21.600 Yeah, you want to hear what you want to hear, what you already agree with.

01:42:23.960 Is that what you want?

01:42:24.640 You want no, like-

01:42:25.700 I actually think as much as there's like a visceral reaction of people not agreeing with

01:42:30.320 Pisco, everybody actually wants to hear him say it, and they want to hear someone talk

01:42:34.160 back.

01:42:34.480 Man, it's fucking hard to get liberals to come to anything.

01:42:36.700 But no one wants someone filibustering.

01:42:37.280 So it takes balls to come up here and get him.

01:42:39.520 Yeah, guys, guys, give it up for Pisco.

01:42:41.740 I mean, it's hard to come into a life.

01:42:44.640 I have a lot of fun.

01:42:46.700 You know what?

01:42:47.300 He might have f***ed a dog, boo.

01:42:51.420 We're not sure yet.

01:42:52.900 And I really appreciate you guys coming to like, to actually hear a debate.

01:42:55.580 I think that debate matters.

01:42:56.860 And I think that convincing people matters.

01:42:57.880 One of the things that Democrats really sucked at, I think, during the 2024 election,

01:43:01.680 even Democrats recognize that, is going to make the argument.

01:43:04.200 And that's why I really appreciate being invited here, and you guys trying to hear me out at

01:43:07.160 least, you know, to the best of your ability.

01:43:08.360 I want to point out, too.

01:43:09.320 If you think he's doing a bad job of it, then let the whole world see that.

01:43:13.020 Yeah.

01:43:13.360 If he's filibustering he can't answer questions, then everyone's going to watch.

01:43:16.060 You can tell Trump is doing a great job because he's making all the right people big mad.

01:43:21.820 Look how trigged Pisco is.

01:43:23.800 Look how angry he is.

01:43:25.300 Why are you mad, bro?

01:43:26.720 Wait, no.

01:43:27.120 I do get triggered because I love this country.

01:43:29.440 You know, you might not think I do.

01:43:30.360 Doubt.

01:43:30.760 Doubt.

01:43:31.460 Doubt.

01:43:32.280 I stand on business for this country.

01:43:33.880 I respect the constitution of it, the rule of law, and you might not agree with my points,

01:43:39.580 but on that sincerity, I promise you, like, I love this country.

01:43:42.980 I want to protect it.

01:43:43.700 Okay.

01:43:43.960 I challenge you to go to a dive bar in Wisconsin and enjoy yourself.

01:43:53.060 All right.

01:43:54.200 All right.

01:43:54.720 Thank you, Steve.

01:43:54.920 Looking good, Mike, Mike.

01:43:56.320 Looking good.

01:43:57.380 Thank you, Steve.

01:43:58.340 All right.

01:43:58.660 Our next person, I can't even read this.

01:44:02.240 What does it say?

01:44:03.080 Will Colbert?

01:44:05.600 Colbert?

01:44:07.300 Will.

01:44:07.740 Is there a Will Colbert here?

01:44:08.980 Will Colbert?

01:44:10.540 Will, come on down.

01:44:11.760 He's all the way in the back.

01:44:13.060 Jack, look at him.

01:44:14.100 We couldn't be any farther from the damn microphone.

01:44:18.900 Really quick, guys, while he's making his way down here.

01:44:21.000 If you have a mustard bottle on your table that happens to have an autograph on it, you have

01:44:25.760 won yourself a skateboard.

01:44:27.040 Please proceed to the hallway and pick it up.

01:44:28.720 Shout out to Ray, who works here and autographed the mustard.

01:44:32.220 Shout out to Ray.

01:44:32.840 Check your mustard.

01:44:33.740 If it's signed, you won.

01:44:34.840 Great work, Ray.

01:44:35.600 Great work, Ray.

01:44:36.560 All right.

01:44:37.040 Will, what do you got for us, brother?

01:44:38.260 Okay.

01:44:38.780 Is Trump winning?

01:44:40.300 Yes.

01:44:41.260 Is Trump fucking up?

01:44:42.840 Guys, guys, what?

01:44:43.160 Yes.

01:44:44.040 Because he's not going far enough.

01:44:46.160 He should be telling these judicial judges to fuck off.

01:44:51.100 He should be arresting these judicial judges.

01:44:53.380 He should be telling them to go bye-bye because they shouldn't be ruling for everything for

01:44:58.360 the United States.

01:44:59.440 The Supreme Court has one job to rule for the United States, and they're not going far enough

01:45:06.360 either.

01:45:07.380 When they did their last bill, I mean their last ruling, they didn't specify stuff.

01:45:14.760 They only made it broad.

01:45:17.260 So my question is to you, do you think Trump is winning?

01:45:21.520 And the answer is yes.

01:45:22.740 Oh, I thought you were asking me a question.

01:45:24.940 Okay.

01:45:26.020 So you think the job of the Supreme Court is to just be a, I don't know, sign off on

01:45:31.020 everything that Trump does and support Trump on everything?

01:45:33.080 No.

01:45:33.480 The Supreme Court should decide what the Constitution says and follow it.

01:45:37.280 I agree with that.

01:45:38.340 But Trump has been wrong often on what the Constitution says.

01:45:41.720 Guys, shut up.

01:45:44.540 Sorry.

01:45:45.740 Not that often.

01:45:47.280 They have not been that often.

01:45:48.520 That's what I mean.

01:45:49.340 You're saying that Trump should be arresting these judges.

01:45:51.180 The Supreme Court has been so deferential to Trump on so many issues.

01:45:55.620 Yeah, but the whole thing is the Supreme Court should have ruled that the judicial that

01:46:00.420 are not like in Michigan or in California do not have the right to tell New York or New

01:46:06.700 Jersey or Florida what the fuck is going on.

01:46:09.960 The Supreme Court needs to do that.

01:46:11.960 Okay.

01:46:12.280 So in the recent case, it's called the Kase decision.

01:46:15.020 It was very famous.

01:46:16.160 The Supreme Court ruled that universal injunctions are not legal under the judicial.

01:46:19.760 Yeah, but the judicial is not listening to that.

01:46:22.880 So therefore, Trump should sell them the fuck off.

01:46:25.520 So you're just wrong about that.

01:46:27.220 So for an example, on the birthright citizenship issue, they are following with the Supreme Court.

01:46:30.720 Okay, let's talk about Michigan right now.

01:46:32.780 Let's talk about Michigan.

01:46:34.240 The Supreme Court said the judicial doesn't have the right to say anything.

01:46:40.020 Meanwhile, the judicial did rule in Michigan that they can be a sanctuary city.

01:46:46.180 They did.

01:46:46.660 So there's a Supreme Court decision that's called Arizona versus the United States that

01:46:50.440 basically says, and this is for Florida as well, that states can't have their own immigration

01:46:55.100 code.

01:46:55.880 Okay.

01:46:56.220 So that has to do with the storied precedent of the Supreme Court that immigration is

01:47:01.460 known as the plenary power of the federal government.

01:47:04.320 So that's a principled ruling based on hundreds of years of precedent of the plenary power doctrine.

01:47:09.240 So it's not absurd for the court to be saying, hey, Arizona, Florida, you guys can't be,

01:47:13.820 you can't enforce your own immigration code.

01:47:15.000 Yeah, but the problem is the judges aren't listening to them.

01:47:17.480 The judges are saying, fuck you with Supreme Court, and they're not listening to them.

01:47:22.060 So therefore, Trump should tell the fucking judicial to fuck off, unless it comes from

01:47:27.860 the Supreme Court.

01:47:28.880 So the district courts are listening to the Supreme Court.

01:47:31.260 That's why.

01:47:31.540 No, they're not.

01:47:32.280 They're not listening to the Supreme Court.

01:47:34.220 They are not.

01:47:34.720 I got to say, you people in D.C. know your shit.

01:47:37.320 I come from New York City, where we're all retarded.

01:47:41.080 Hey, I'm from New Jersey, so don't feel bad.

01:47:43.020 There you go.

01:47:43.300 I was at a bar the other day, and these old guys go, the news was on.

01:47:46.680 They go, the news.

01:47:47.680 I don't watch the fucking news.

01:47:49.560 I watch cartoons.

01:47:50.440 The other thing is, when you're over 50, I'm 60 now, do not ride a scooter.

01:47:55.600 Do not want to ride one of these D.C. scooters, because we can't handle them.

01:47:59.140 Yeah.

01:47:59.280 All right, all right.

01:48:00.240 Now, guys, we're almost through.

01:48:01.820 Everybody, give it up for this guy.

01:48:02.940 Let me say one thing on the—I just want to bring this up.

01:48:07.540 I have a question for Pisco, as a liberal.

01:48:09.760 The district courts formed a class on the issue of birthright citizenship that includes

01:48:13.740 future persons, which was granted.

01:48:15.520 Yeah.

01:48:15.680 How do you—does that mean that the unborn and non-conceived have legal standing in courts

01:48:20.100 now?

01:48:20.480 No.

01:48:21.100 The standing issue is—

01:48:22.060 Then what is the class—what does it refer to?

01:48:24.000 Article 3 standing is, like, basically, if you have one litigant who has Article 3 standing,

01:48:30.180 that is to say that there's a case or controversy under Article 3 of the Constitution, then basically

01:48:34.580 everyone comes in.

01:48:35.540 So it's not a jurisdictional issue because there are at least some persons who would be

01:48:39.900 granting standing.

01:48:40.840 So even though there's a bunch of rules about, like, you know, injury and fact causation,

01:48:44.800 but there's basically carve-outs for, for example, in abortion cases for the longest time,

01:48:49.920 where if there's no, like, means to bring the case before a court because of practicalities,

01:48:55.860 there are exceptions for that.

01:48:56.660 But we're not even talking about constitutional standing.

01:48:58.740 We're just now talking about class certification, and the rules for class certification are different

01:49:02.220 than standing rules.

01:49:02.860 Can judges grant relief to people who don't exist?

01:49:06.160 If the kind of relief—so if the kind of relief that they seek to aim is indivisible

01:49:11.360 or otherwise—

01:49:13.160 The right to life?

01:49:13.740 Yeah.

01:49:14.040 So the people who become—

01:49:15.060 Does the right to life count?

01:49:16.660 So the right to life counts, for sure, but that is—

01:49:19.040 Sounds like you're pro-abortion.

01:49:20.500 Real quick, Nick Sorter.

01:49:22.260 Hey, Nick Sorter.

01:49:23.460 I want Nick Sorter to come on down.

01:49:25.180 Come up here, Nick.

01:49:26.060 Please come on stage.

01:49:27.100 Nick.

01:49:27.300 So the right to life applies to persons—applies to persons.

01:49:33.780 Future persons can get classification, though.

01:49:35.540 So they're separate issues, right?

01:49:37.080 Whether the term persons applies to unborn persons is a different legal issue.

01:49:42.820 No.

01:49:43.660 Guys, just listen.

01:49:45.900 You guys get so triggered you can't actually hear an actual answer.

01:49:49.740 So on the one hand, the legal analysis of whether constitutionally the term persons encompasses

01:49:56.580 unborn persons is a separate issue than whether or not you can certify a class that includes

01:50:02.020 future persons.

01:50:03.260 I'm just going to say this.

01:50:04.100 It's a separate issue.

01:50:04.520 The court certified a class that includes people who are not yet born.

01:50:08.520 I don't see any reason why pro-lifers couldn't get the same argument.

01:50:10.920 Wait, wait, wait.

01:50:11.280 Do you agree that their ruling on the certification issue does not resolve the question of whether

01:50:16.700 constitutionally they're persons?

01:50:18.000 Yes or no?

01:50:18.740 Agreed.

01:50:19.140 It means that someone can bring a class and get it certified that includes the unborn.

01:50:23.160 Correct.

01:50:23.300 All right, real quick.

01:50:23.980 Hey, let me interject.

01:50:25.100 Nick Shorter, guys, give it up.

01:50:26.440 One of the biggest independent journalists in the game.

01:50:29.920 What do you want to say to this libtard?

01:50:32.380 I have spent two hours here listening to this bullshit from over here at the other end of

01:50:36.500 the table here.

01:50:37.320 So, no, I got to ask, when did you actually start giving a shit about the Epstein files?

01:50:41.440 You're over here, dogs, and now all of a sudden you care about the Epstein list.

01:50:46.480 What was the line?

01:50:47.460 You had 16 years of Democrat presidents to come out and say, oh, yeah, we want the Epstein

01:50:51.340 files.

01:50:51.840 And you're doing it now.

01:50:52.980 What changed, dude?

01:50:54.040 What changed?

01:50:54.520 Yeah.

01:50:54.700 So this is really like super not convincing.

01:50:58.200 You're trying to argue that I'm a hypocrite.

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01:51:29.840 I've always cared about, you know, the Epstein issue.

01:51:32.060 You are.

01:51:32.440 I always have.

01:51:33.120 And I mean, there's videos of me talking about it.

01:51:34.920 There's videos of me.

01:51:35.440 OK, you can see me.

01:51:36.460 We only got a limited amount of time.

01:51:37.520 Do you want to answer the question or not?

01:51:38.740 No, no.

01:51:39.040 What I'm saying is I have cared about the Epstein issue.

01:51:41.380 Oh, OK.

01:51:42.160 You guys.

01:51:42.900 Have you said it publicly?

01:51:43.740 Yeah.

01:51:44.020 There's videos of me talking about it.

01:51:45.000 Yeah.

01:51:45.060 When?

01:51:46.340 You called for the Epstein list to be released?

01:51:48.360 I don't know.

01:51:49.060 What do you mean by the term Epstein list?

01:51:50.480 What do you mean by the term Epstein list?

01:51:53.260 What do you mean by the term Epstein list?

01:51:54.980 What do you mean by the term Epstein list?

01:51:56.600 I want to know who raped children.

01:51:59.120 And all of a sudden, Democrats are going to pretend

01:52:00.700 to take care about that.

01:52:02.840 You're going out there and getting naked in front of children.

01:52:05.660 What do you mean by the term Epstein list?

01:52:07.480 I just told you.

01:52:08.280 What do you mean by that?

01:52:08.920 I want to know who was on that fucking island fucking children.

01:52:11.540 That's what I want to know.

01:52:12.640 And so it's your position that Democrats don't care about that.

01:52:17.960 Okay, when did you start caring about it?

01:52:19.240 Who are the people who are covering it up right now?

01:52:20.900 Who are the people covering it up right now?

01:52:22.620 Who are the people covering it up?

01:52:23.720 Okay, well, how many times have we gone through?

01:52:24.880 Who are the people covering it up?

01:52:25.900 You've had Marsha Blackburn.

01:52:26.860 You've had Marsha Blackburn.

01:52:28.180 Senator Marsha Blackburn.

01:52:29.540 Who's voting against you?

01:52:30.380 Shut the fuck up for a couple seconds.

01:52:32.020 You're asking me a question.

01:52:33.100 You don't want to let me answer it because you're trying to filibuster here.

01:52:35.680 You've had Marsha Blackburn for years trying to get to the bottom of who was on the Epstein

01:52:39.980 list, and Democrats blocked it every single time.

01:52:42.760 You didn't say a goddamn thing the entire time.

01:52:45.360 Not one time did you call for the Epstein list to be wrong.

01:52:47.680 Yeah, I don't know what you're talking about, Marsha Blackburn.

01:52:48.960 I don't know what you're talking about, but right now-

01:52:50.480 That's his point.

01:52:51.380 That's literally his point.

01:52:52.660 Wait, hang on, hang on.

01:52:53.480 So I don't know the specific vote you're referencing.

01:52:56.100 The Democrats didn't sign on.

01:52:57.680 I haven't seen it.

01:52:58.420 I can't comment on it, but I can comment right now, and you can too.

01:53:01.460 You can too.

01:53:02.260 The Republicans right now, Mike Johnson just closed fucking the House of Representatives

01:53:05.800 to prevent them from getting access to the files.

01:53:08.700 What do you think of that?

01:53:09.040 Did you all get the calendar?

01:53:09.500 What do you think of that?

01:53:10.100 What do you think of that?

01:53:10.900 What do you think of that?

01:53:11.560 What do you think of that?

01:53:12.720 Did you see when the House of Representatives was supposed to reset?

01:53:15.520 What do you think of that?

01:53:17.680 It's not.

01:53:18.420 It was always supposed to be.

01:53:19.580 It's been that way for a year.

01:53:21.180 They were supposed to recess on Thursday.

01:53:23.360 So they do it every single-

01:53:24.440 I want to interject because-

01:53:25.980 Wait, do you agree with them?

01:53:26.600 Hold on, hold on.

01:53:27.460 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

01:53:28.240 You agree with Mike Johnson?

01:53:29.040 Answer the question.

01:53:29.920 Okay, I'm going to answer this because I actually spoke with Ro Khanna and Thomas Massey

01:53:33.360 and Massey twice, and Massey said the August recess is a tradition based on the heat

01:53:36.840 in D.C.

01:53:37.760 that it wasn't about the Epstein vote, but they're getting-

01:53:42.400 Mike Johnson says it is.

01:53:43.320 No, he did not.

01:53:44.340 He didn't say that.

01:53:45.080 This is not the first time on stage that you've been bullshitting.

01:53:47.700 You said that Trump was calling for a pardon for Ghislaine Maxwell earlier, and that's

01:53:53.020 a fucking lie.

01:53:53.540 He never said that.

01:53:54.500 He's quoting it, isn't he?

01:53:54.980 He never said that.

01:53:55.660 Why is he saying, I have the power to do it?

01:53:57.100 I have the power to do it.

01:53:57.420 He never said that he was going to pardon Ghislaine Maxwell.

01:53:59.520 He never even hinted at it.

01:54:00.640 He's floating it.

01:54:00.960 He's floating it.

01:54:00.980 You're making shit up, and you're just hoping that everybody here doesn't understand that

01:54:04.420 he didn't do that.

01:54:04.940 Is he floating it?

01:54:05.660 Huh?

01:54:06.060 Is he floating it?

01:54:07.040 Is he floating it?

01:54:07.760 No, not a single time.

01:54:08.820 Not one time.

01:54:10.040 Okay.

01:54:10.220 When did he do it?

01:54:11.040 Tell me when he did it.

01:54:12.020 I have the complete power if I want him to do it.

01:54:13.280 Tell me when he did it.

01:54:14.040 So when he was talking to a reporter, and the reporter asked, will you pardon Maxwell?

01:54:16.960 He's like, I have the power to do it.

01:54:18.260 That's him floating it.

01:54:19.080 Come on.

01:54:19.740 Oh, really?

01:54:20.200 Wait, wait.

01:54:20.740 That's a weird fucking answer.

01:54:22.180 Isn't that a weird answer?

01:54:23.820 Isn't that a weird answer?

01:54:24.680 No, no.

01:54:24.960 So the president of the United States says, oh, I have the power to do it, but I'm not

01:54:28.380 doing it.

01:54:28.780 So that's floating it?

01:54:29.860 That's exactly what he said.

01:54:31.060 I have the power to do it, but I'm not doing it.

01:54:33.540 Here's the question.

01:54:33.940 Shouldn't he say, of course, I would never pardon Maxwell, right?

01:54:36.800 Did you want to say that?

01:54:37.740 No, no, no.

01:54:38.080 I think it's even better to say, oh, I have the power to do it, but I'm not doing it.

01:54:40.860 That's exactly what he said.

01:54:41.960 You're saying, oh, that's floating it.

01:54:43.040 He didn't say it.

01:54:43.620 No.

01:54:44.060 Does he or does he not have the power to do it, and has he done it?

01:54:46.600 He has the official power to do it.

01:54:48.040 But he didn't say, I would never do it.

01:54:50.340 He said, I haven't thought about it.

01:54:51.580 All right, so that's floating it.

01:54:52.500 That's floating it.

01:54:53.520 Come on.

01:54:54.060 Don't be fucking stupid.

01:54:55.680 Don't be stupid.

01:54:56.500 This is the way that they operate here.

01:54:58.580 It's a total lie.

01:54:59.740 Do you agree with Mike Johnson closing Congress, closing the House, what they're doing because of this?

01:55:05.120 Do you agree with that?

01:55:05.620 Okay, but that's not what's going on.

01:55:07.020 You're making that up again.

01:55:08.040 That's another Democrat talking point.

01:55:10.160 You're saying that they recessed because of the Epstein files.

01:55:12.420 That is absolutely not true.

01:55:14.200 They were going to recess anyway.

01:55:15.540 Mike Johnson is refusing to put this up for a vote.

01:55:17.160 He's refusing.

01:55:17.960 No, he did not.

01:55:18.740 It'll be up for a vote in September.

01:55:20.020 What do you mean?

01:55:20.500 No.

01:55:21.300 Did he say that it wasn't coming up for a vote?

01:55:22.780 No.

01:55:23.080 Why isn't it a priority?

01:55:23.880 They reconvene in September.

01:55:25.820 Why aren't you mad at Mike Johnson?

01:55:26.140 Why am I not mad?

01:55:26.760 No, I'm mad at the people like you that are letting people get naked in the streets in front of children

01:55:31.380 on these pride parades and being like, oh, yeah, no, now we care about the Epstein race.

01:55:35.340 So you're happy with how Trump is handling it?

01:55:38.420 Okay.

01:55:38.780 Are you happy with how Trump is handling it?

01:55:39.780 No, no, I'm not.

01:55:40.780 No, absolutely not.

01:55:41.740 No, no, no, I think Pambani should be fucking sacked.

01:55:43.940 I do.

01:55:44.360 I do.

01:55:44.900 Absolutely.

01:55:45.560 But he's not.

01:55:45.900 Because why?

01:55:46.520 Because why is he not firing Pambani?

01:55:48.420 Because he's fucking stupid?

01:55:49.280 I don't know.

01:55:49.460 Call him stupid.

01:55:50.400 He's not firing Pambani.

01:55:51.160 I think Trump likes hiring a bunch of attractive women.

01:55:53.940 Wait.

01:55:54.660 No, no.

01:55:55.240 Have you answered my question yet?

01:55:57.100 Hold on.

01:55:57.500 Hold on.

01:55:57.880 No, no, no.

01:55:58.240 I mean, you can keep talking all you want to.

01:56:00.020 You can keep talking all you want.

01:56:00.980 For whatever reason, his mic is way loud in the back room for whatever reason.

01:56:04.860 So, no, no, you haven't answered.

01:56:06.180 I got up here and you've been running in circles for five minutes now.

01:56:09.720 When did you start calling for the Epstein files to be released?

01:56:13.340 When?

01:56:13.840 Yeah, so when you say.

01:56:14.440 When?

01:56:15.120 Did you do it at all under Joe Biden?

01:56:16.680 Yes.

01:56:16.880 Did you ever hit Joe Biden and say, yes, you need to release the Epstein files right now?

01:56:20.820 So, I talked about Epstein before.

01:56:22.300 What specifically?

01:56:22.840 Oh, you talked about.

01:56:23.640 You only mentioned him in passing.

01:56:25.180 You will do anything.

01:56:26.040 You will do anything to shove responsibility now onto me.

01:56:29.440 Like, this is my fault.

01:56:30.140 I'm trying to figure out what your motive is.

01:56:31.800 I mean, the guy that's dogs all of a sudden cares about Jeffrey Epstein.

01:56:34.960 Listen to this.

01:56:35.620 You said.

01:56:36.120 He could have just said no.

01:56:36.860 You said that Trump.

01:56:37.320 Right.

01:56:37.740 He could have said no.

01:56:38.660 I don't understand.

01:56:39.160 Can I ask you a question?

01:56:41.180 Please, let me ask you a question.

01:56:42.340 So, you said that Trump should fire Pam Bondi.

01:56:46.360 Why hasn't he?

01:56:47.220 Is he stupid?

01:56:48.300 Okay, what does this have to do with the question that I have?

01:56:49.840 Is he stupid?

01:56:50.760 Is he stupid?

01:56:51.140 Maybe he's forgiving.

01:56:51.980 Why is he doing this?

01:56:52.680 You know how difficult it is to re-nominate and have reconfirmed an attorney general?

01:56:57.140 I feel like if there's something that can be worked out to maybe get her back on track,

01:57:00.900 that's the way you should handle it.

01:57:01.840 You said she should be fired.

01:57:03.100 Yeah, I would love to see her.

01:57:03.960 I didn't want to see her there in the first place.

01:57:06.320 This is the difference.

01:57:07.800 This is the difference.

01:57:09.180 We Republicans are independent thinkers a lot of the time.

01:57:12.140 You guys have to go along.

01:57:13.680 You have to walk a line or else you're not communicating.

01:57:16.000 You're free.

01:57:16.680 That's it.

01:57:17.180 You want to critique daddy?

01:57:18.240 Are you going to answer my question?

01:57:20.740 Why all of a sudden do you care about the Epstein files?

01:57:23.380 I'm saying that's not true.

01:57:24.160 I've always cared about Epstein files.

01:57:24.800 You've always cared about the Epstein files.

01:57:25.780 You can't name a single thing you've said.

01:57:27.380 You can't criticize Joe Biden.

01:57:29.320 You can't do anything.

01:57:29.700 I don't understand.

01:57:30.860 It's like this is not a difficult question.

01:57:32.480 As I sit here, I don't have perfect recall of my numbers.

01:57:35.100 You don't have perfect recall of anything.

01:57:36.860 I mean, you've had a hypocrite and a deadbeat in the White House for four years before this.

01:57:40.940 This is what Republicans love to do.

01:57:41.740 They make the subject now not about Trump.

01:57:43.760 Let's save Trump.

01:57:44.820 And let's go after the random guy we brought up here to yell at.

01:57:46.740 Let's go back to the dog question.

01:57:47.940 So why don't we actually, wouldn't it have been a better, hey, hey, hold on.

01:57:50.400 Why don't we actually, hold on.

01:57:51.880 Are we going to get an answer to that question about you dogs before we leave here today?

01:57:56.360 I thought this was a joke.

01:57:57.700 And now all of a sudden I'm like, okay, he won't say no.

01:58:00.380 Yes or no.

01:58:01.260 Did you, the dog?

01:58:02.420 Hold on, hold on.

01:58:03.620 I mean, what am I missing?

01:58:05.080 What did I get wrong?

01:58:06.140 Wait, wait, wait.

01:58:06.860 This is a level of discourse.

01:58:08.020 This is how scrambling they are.

01:58:09.660 They're absolutely frenetic.

01:58:10.600 I'm not scrambling.

01:58:11.800 Some narrative to defend their daddy.

01:58:13.220 Some narrative to defend, indefensible, by the way.

01:58:14.960 Okay, guys.

01:58:15.520 And Pam Bonney should be fired.

01:58:16.980 Okay.

01:58:17.320 And there's no explanation for why he hasn't done it already.

01:58:18.760 I think that the answer to the question that was posed is an easy yes for a variety of reasons.

01:58:23.680 So let's just run down real quick.

01:58:24.740 He could have given an easy no.

01:58:25.700 Why would he say yes?

01:58:26.160 He could have.

01:58:26.820 I'm talking about is Trump winning?

01:58:29.240 Wait, wait, hold on.

01:58:30.240 I wanted to ask you, would it have been a better response from Trump?

01:58:32.840 I don't really care about that right now.

01:58:34.480 I know you don't.

01:58:35.160 Hold on.

01:58:35.700 If he just sat there going like this.

01:58:38.560 Like you.

01:58:41.160 Guys, guys, that.

01:58:43.240 We're here to talk about Trump.

01:58:44.160 Don't we have a hard out at five?

01:58:45.820 Yes, guys.

01:58:46.540 That has been our episode.

01:58:48.480 Hey, Pisco, let's just wrap this thing up.

01:58:50.440 Thank you guys so much for being here.

01:58:52.440 That has been the second ever Cultural War Live.

01:58:56.560 We appreciate all the people that came up here.

01:59:00.560 Now, we got to get out of here.

01:59:01.700 But before we go, starting with Nick, everybody introduce yourself.

01:59:05.240 Tell them how can they find you.

01:59:06.220 Go quick.

01:59:06.660 We got five minutes.

01:59:07.180 Yeah, absolutely.

01:59:07.560 I'm Nick Sorter.

01:59:08.440 I'm an independent journalist that yells and screams about the type of liberal bullshit

01:59:12.820 that this guy shills over here.

01:59:14.520 Yeah.

01:59:14.720 So, go ahead.

01:59:15.280 Next.

01:59:16.300 I'm running a crypto thing right now.

01:59:18.400 It's going to go well.

01:59:19.360 I promise you guys nothing funny about it.

01:59:22.660 You can find it on my Twitter.

01:59:24.820 I'll be posting about it.

01:59:26.840 And that's about it.

01:59:28.540 Well, you guys know me.

01:59:29.340 I'm Primetime99.

01:59:30.200 Pimp on a plan.

01:59:31.200 I love you guys.

01:59:32.040 Thank you to Matan, Nick, Tim, Gavin, and Pisco.

01:59:36.040 Thank you for coming in the lines, Den.

01:59:38.320 Thank you, guys.

01:59:39.420 All the last.

01:59:40.660 I want to say Trump is winning, but he's not winning enough.

01:59:46.100 Before Biden, we had 30 million illegals.

01:59:48.820 He let in 12 million.

01:59:50.780 He's got about 1,200 days left.

01:59:52.820 If he did 10,000 a day, he'd get rid of the 12 million, and we're still stuck with the 30 million.

01:59:59.060 So, instead of defending ourselves and arguing with guys like this, we should say, triple, quadruple down, Trump.

02:00:06.220 We need everyone out of here who's here illegally.

02:00:09.560 The fact this guy is pissed off means we're winning.

02:00:11.860 We got two minutes.

02:00:13.400 Yeah, no.

02:00:13.760 Peace go, lady.

02:00:14.320 Thank you guys for having me.

02:00:15.320 Trump is a disaster.

02:00:16.440 Losing on the economy.

02:00:17.480 Losing on prices.

02:00:18.560 Going over constitutional rights like they're nothing.

02:00:21.220 Sucks on immigration.

02:00:22.860 Absolutely corrupt.

02:00:23.820 $400 million Qatar.

02:00:24.800 Suck on this immigration.

02:00:26.200 Being a fucking shill.

02:00:27.320 Being a shill for Israel.

02:00:29.140 Being a shill for Bibi Netanyahu.

02:00:30.540 Bombing Iran when that's what his daddy told him to do, Bibi Netanyahu.

02:00:35.840 And so, yeah, it's a complete disaster.

02:00:37.440 And now you're seeing people give cover.

02:00:38.800 And if he actually ends up pardoning Maxwell, they'll defend it, too, because they'll defend anything this guy does.

02:00:43.200 That's a long Twitter handle.

02:00:45.160 Where can they find you?

02:00:46.340 Peace go, Lydia, on Twitter and Peace goes Hour on YouTube.

02:00:48.560 Ladies and gentlemen, it's been awesome to have our second live in-person Culture War event.

02:00:52.780 I'm, of course, Tim Poole.

02:00:53.720 I appreciate all of you coming down.

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