The Culture War - Tim Pool


Steam CENSORING Games Starts NEW Gamer WAR Against Visa & Mastercard ft. Gavin McInnes


Summary

In this week's show, we discuss a bill that could prevent companies from blocking adult games from being sold on Steam, and why we should all be required to prove our age. Plus, a new law that could force Spotify to verify the age of their users.


Transcript

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00:00:58.580 I know, it's literally in the Bible.
00:01:02.240 I can hear Alex Jones screaming right now.
00:01:05.340 But on the other hand, what are they supposed to do?
00:01:08.960 If you go to a porn site and it says, do you promise you're over 18?
00:01:12.880 I don't want a 14-year-old, a 12-year-old clicking that and saying yes.
00:01:17.840 So I think facial recognition is a good solution.
00:01:22.440 For everybody else, let's pull it up.
00:01:28.740 We've got this story from thegamer.com.
00:01:32.440 There is a bill under review right now that could prevent credit card companies from blocking adult games on Steam.
00:01:39.660 For those that don't know the story, this has been an ongoing battle.
00:01:42.560 A new gamer war, as it were, as video game distributors like Steam and Itch have been banning adult games
00:01:50.480 because a feminist anti-porn group had been putting pressure on Visa and MasterCard to get this content banned.
00:01:57.960 Steam then updates its rules saying, okay, you know, we're not going to allow this stuff.
00:02:01.500 And the issue is the content is legal.
00:02:04.980 But Steam, facing pressure from payment processors, says, you know what?
00:02:08.940 We're not going to be involved.
00:02:10.240 Now, this bill that was introduced by Kevin Kramer of North Dakota was actually about gun rights.
00:02:18.660 You see, several months ago, February 4th, when this was introduced,
00:02:21.640 we had been hearing that credit card companies were going to start restricting anybody at gun stores.
00:02:28.380 They were going to say, you know what?
00:02:29.160 If you're using payment processing for guns, we're going to restrict this.
00:02:32.740 It's a way to circumvent the Second Amendment and our right to keep and bear arms.
00:02:36.940 But wait, there's more.
00:02:38.360 The issue was much broader than that.
00:02:40.580 Activist organizations are trying to prevent people from being able to buy legal products.
00:02:45.940 Now, I'm going to tell you this.
00:02:47.860 I think porn is bad.
00:02:49.980 I'd have no problem if it was banned, whatever.
00:02:51.820 But who am I?
00:02:52.520 I'm not the king, right?
00:02:54.140 We handle these things through debate, culture wars.
00:02:57.840 We do shows.
00:02:58.640 We challenge people.
00:02:59.620 We argue why we think we're right.
00:03:01.140 And we hope we win culturally.
00:03:04.800 The far left, on the other hand, shows up with crowbars, baseball bats, Molotov cocktails.
00:03:08.500 And then companies bend the knee.
00:03:10.460 That is not the way anybody should live.
00:03:11.980 It's not the way I want to live.
00:03:12.960 I want to win on the merits.
00:03:13.960 So I say, I am not going to entertain credit card companies banning content that can be legally purchased.
00:03:21.060 I'm not playing that game because they're going to come for our guns.
00:03:24.040 That's the play.
00:03:25.240 It's all a Trojan horse.
00:03:26.780 On top of this, we have other stories, too, which are interesting in that in the UK and Australia, they're launching these age verification laws as well as the U.S.
00:03:33.880 And initially, I had nothing but praise for it, saying, you know what?
00:03:37.100 If it's an adult website, verify the age of somebody.
00:03:39.260 What's the problem?
00:03:41.300 Well, as much as I think that's actually rather simple, the problem is this law is now hitting everything.
00:03:47.120 Spotify is requiring face scans and digital.
00:03:50.060 They want to get your ID and personal information permanently on record.
00:03:54.620 And that was the fear many people had.
00:03:56.660 A Trojan horse that I would say that I missed that I was wrong about.
00:04:01.320 Again, I'll say this.
00:04:02.500 If you're a website exclusively just doing adult content and you're like, you need an ID to see this, I say, OK.
00:04:08.240 The one thing I can add is, at least in public, when you go to an adult bookstore or a casino or a bar, you show your ID, they look at it, you're good to go.
00:04:16.320 They don't get a permanent copy of it.
00:04:18.320 These websites do.
00:04:19.280 Now it's affecting Spotify and people are getting banned from Spotify because it's demanding to verify their age and listen to music.
00:04:27.500 Why?
00:04:28.100 Because Spotify doesn't want to gate explicit content.
00:04:31.900 So this is where the ID identification of the world begins.
00:04:36.980 And this is in line with all of that social credit score garbage.
00:04:39.680 Go, my friends.
00:04:41.860 In the past, there is a man who has been targeted, smeared, defamed.
00:04:47.360 He's been accused.
00:04:49.040 He's been debanked.
00:04:50.960 This man is Gavin McInnes.
00:04:55.260 Let's pull in Gavin right now and have a conversation.
00:04:58.220 We'll talk about this and get some insights.
00:05:00.660 Gavin, how's it going?
00:05:01.200 Can you hear me?
00:05:02.420 Yes, I can hear you fine.
00:05:03.320 How are you doing?
00:05:04.200 I'm doing well.
00:05:05.040 Let me just frame this a little bit better.
00:05:06.740 And there we go.
00:05:07.420 Sir, right now there is this big online battle over Visa and MasterCard being pressured to ban adult video games from these gaming platforms.
00:05:18.520 And it's legal content.
00:05:21.620 Users of these, the fans of these games, albeit it's not something I like, but their fans, they're outraged.
00:05:27.700 But also there are people that are terrified that if the payment processors can universally dictate what products we're allowed to buy,
00:05:34.160 then our culture is going to be enforced by unseen corporate influences.
00:05:38.260 There was a bill introduced February 4th that would stop credit card companies from doing this.
00:05:43.400 And this is about gun rights.
00:05:44.620 But it's not just guns, not just video games.
00:05:46.620 It's also politics.
00:05:47.740 And we've seen a ton of people debanked.
00:05:50.660 Carl Benjamin booted from Patreon, Laura Loomer banned from, I think it was PayPal.
00:05:54.260 And you, I believe, have been banned, debanked, and shut down far and wide.
00:05:58.020 So I'm curious what your thoughts are on what's currently happening with this action as well as these potential laws.
00:06:04.780 Well, it's a dangerous game we're playing because they are correct in assuming that kids under 18 should not be playing these games.
00:06:14.100 They should not be playing porn games.
00:06:16.380 The games have naked women in them.
00:06:18.280 Young people shouldn't be doing this.
00:06:19.980 They shouldn't be voting.
00:06:20.700 They shouldn't be getting tattoos.
00:06:21.800 They've already been totally corrupted by TikTok and doom scrolling.
00:06:26.640 We've destroyed their innocence.
00:06:28.600 So I get that.
00:06:30.160 But on the other hand, when you look at the arbiters of what is right and what is wrong,
00:06:34.340 they are totally corrupt and inept, which is not a good combination.
00:06:38.860 I'm banned from everything.
00:06:41.240 Twitter, Pinterest, MailChimp, like everything.
00:06:45.680 And every time I tried to get for Censored.TV, when I tried to get payment, they'd go, we got a guy.
00:06:52.280 He's like, they do guns.
00:06:53.860 They can help you.
00:06:55.080 And then that guy would go, dude, I don't know who you pissed off, but I can't help you.
00:07:01.340 I had this weird Israeli dude that would only listen to, like, accept my application if other, like, Hasidic or Orthodox Jews said that I was a legit dude.
00:07:12.420 I got that.
00:07:13.180 He goes, I don't know who you peed off.
00:07:15.400 Wow.
00:07:16.140 CBD, porn guys.
00:07:18.320 And all these people, the rates they charge are, like, triple what normal people get.
00:07:23.400 And they all said no because I pissed off Visa and MasterCard.
00:07:27.480 So it's a really interesting debate because I do agree with them that I don't want children watching porn.
00:07:34.680 We've watched phones destroy an entire generation of childhood.
00:07:39.120 But on the other hand, who's in charge now?
00:07:41.860 Who's making these decisions?
00:07:43.120 Yeah, one of the things we started to see, too, because I'll put it this way.
00:07:47.540 When we first started hearing that states were passing these ID requirements for porn websites, the gut reaction immediately is like, okay, that's fine.
00:07:55.300 I mean, if you're literally just a site for porn, then people should be able to just randomly show up and just say, sure, I'm 18.
00:08:01.460 Trust me.
00:08:01.960 The problem is they passed these laws, and now we're seeing, one, pressure is being applied to these credit card companies who are gleeful to do it most likely.
00:08:11.960 But also Spotify is now requiring face scans of people to prove you're of age because they have explicit content.
00:08:20.220 There are lyrics that are naughty, and they don't want young people getting access to this.
00:08:23.660 So I can certainly entertain, you know, in meat space and physical world, if you go try and buy an explicit CD, which we don't anymore, you show an ID, one time you walk out the door.
00:08:34.820 What their companies are saying now is they want a permanent record of your ID and a picture of your face forever for this.
00:08:41.780 That's where things start getting dystopian.
00:08:44.640 I know.
00:08:46.220 It's literally in the Bible.
00:08:48.120 I can hear Alex Jones screaming right now.
00:08:50.640 But on the other hand, like, what are they supposed to do?
00:08:54.940 If you go to, like, a porn site and it says, do you promise you're over 18?
00:08:58.740 I don't want a 14-year-old, a 12-year-old clicking that and saying yes.
00:09:04.260 So I think facial recognition is a good solution.
00:09:08.760 Why are these losers playing these stupid video games anyway?
00:09:12.220 Like Detroit Become Human, whatever the hell it's called.
00:09:15.460 And you're watching some – the girls look prepubescent with big breasts.
00:09:21.380 And you're playing these games for six hours a day.
00:09:23.620 Like, that's a separate topic.
00:09:25.540 But we're arguing about loser rights.
00:09:28.760 It's true, though, but it's also guns, right?
00:09:30.940 Earlier this year, we were hearing that Visa and MasterCard were blocking transactions of guns.
00:09:35.200 And that's why Kevin Kramer said, okay, we can't allow payment processors to block the sale of legal products.
00:09:41.740 It's interference.
00:09:43.240 But the bill never went anywhere.
00:09:45.260 And I'll ask you – let me add this.
00:09:47.440 This is what's crazy.
00:09:48.820 So this morning, we put out – we reached out to all these members of Congress, senators, people in the House.
00:09:56.180 We know a lot.
00:09:57.360 And they're all excited, saying we want to talk about the Pelosi Act.
00:09:59.700 We want to talk about insider trading.
00:10:01.300 And we were like, awesome, awesome.
00:10:02.660 We also want to talk about this bill that would stop the credit card processors from banning legal transactions.
00:10:09.760 Everybody just stops responding.
00:10:11.500 Just no more responses.
00:10:13.560 You still there?
00:10:14.360 Nothing.
00:10:15.000 Just gone.
00:10:15.720 Like, they don't want to go near this.
00:10:18.020 Yeah.
00:10:18.280 What you've got to understand, too, is there's a bottleneck.
00:10:21.200 So just like I was saying before with – there's porn and CBD and the Israeli dudes and all these different people that deal on the outskirts of payment processing.
00:10:30.360 They all meet at Visa and MasterCard.
00:10:33.020 So if you're in the bad books here, no one can apply.
00:10:36.320 It's a very elite, tiny group that controls all this.
00:10:40.640 And what I think they are doing while holding the hands of the elites is Trojan horsing valid complaints.
00:10:47.400 It is wrong for children to watch pornography.
00:10:50.160 We got that.
00:10:50.780 As parents, it all tugs at our heartstrings.
00:10:53.480 So we agree.
00:10:54.900 And then just like the Patriot Act, right, they can slowly expand the definitions of what unacceptable is until they control us all.
00:11:03.180 So it's like holding someone at gunpoint, really, and saying, I'm going to hurt your kid unless you let me control your life.
00:11:09.540 You know what the worst thing is?
00:11:11.220 And on work, there's a viral story right now where kids have been using video game characters to bypass the facial scans.
00:11:20.260 So Discord apparently had some like age verification thing.
00:11:23.380 And they used the video game Death Stranding.
00:11:26.000 And Norman Reedus, they used his face.
00:11:29.700 And it's got something called photo mode so you can make him look and open his mouth.
00:11:33.100 And it worked.
00:11:33.440 Not only that, I went on Gemini, Google's AI, and I typed in a video of a 35-year-old man looking at the camera.
00:11:40.740 He looks left.
00:11:41.600 He looks right.
00:11:42.300 He opens his mouth.
00:11:43.320 Now I can easily use that and plug it in to any of these facial scanners.
00:11:47.620 It's not going to stop kids getting access to it.
00:11:49.740 But it is going to create a permanent database of all your private behaviors and actions.
00:11:54.720 And they're going to exploit that data for malicious ends.
00:11:58.980 It's getting creepy.
00:11:59.780 Yeah, but another thing the childless forget, though, is that young kids don't want to see porn.
00:12:06.940 Like the left always goes, they can get around it.
00:12:08.940 Trust me, your eight-year-old has seen a lot of gangbanging.
00:12:11.500 And you're like, no, no, I don't think my eight-year-old has seen any of that.
00:12:15.400 I remember when I showed my five-year-old the Croods.
00:12:18.340 This is a long time ago.
00:12:19.620 And there's some romantic relationship with the teenage girl and some guy.
00:12:24.920 And I remember as a five-year-old, he would put his hand over his eyes during those scenes because even like that little bit of subtle romance was nauseating to him.
00:12:33.840 So in a way, we also have to protect the kids from things they accidentally stumble into.
00:12:39.480 That's why we have parental IMDB.
00:12:41.720 Kids don't want to see this disgusting garbage.
00:12:44.580 But again, I'm sick of those valid concerns being manipulated by leftists and globalists.
00:12:52.200 With your cancellation, I guess, it's one of the most persistent, right?
00:12:58.640 I mean, you know, Alex Jones is back on X.
00:13:02.260 He's fighting.
00:13:03.360 They're coming after him.
00:13:04.040 They're coming after him hard.
00:13:04.980 But there are a lot of people who have made comebacks to a certain degree.
00:13:08.400 But you were saying you're still banned on Twitter, on X?
00:13:11.860 I can't write my own company I don't own.
00:13:14.140 I can't write myself a check.
00:13:15.580 If you gave me a pub, I wouldn't be able to process credit cards.
00:13:19.360 I'd have to put it in my, you know, someone else's name, my wife's name or whatever.
00:13:23.160 It is completely permanent.
00:13:25.460 And insiders at YouTube have told me that like, no, there's no redemption.
00:13:30.840 There's no coming back from this.
00:13:32.160 You're on the permalist.
00:13:32.940 It must be Proud Boys.
00:13:34.440 It must be like they're considered a terrorist group in Canada and New Zealand.
00:13:38.900 So if I get on there and I go, hey, Proud Boys, go blow up ice or something, and they do that,
00:13:45.300 then they're culpable, I guess.
00:13:47.480 I don't know.
00:13:47.880 They think I control the Proud Boys like little marionettes.
00:13:50.860 But it's not changing.
00:13:52.780 Yeah, it is really weird.
00:13:56.320 I wonder if this is going to shift, though, if it's going to change.
00:13:58.860 It does seem like we, like the more freedom-oriented, it's interesting, it's like libertarian to
00:14:04.920 conservative spectrum-ish, not necessarily everybody conservative, but there's a lot of
00:14:09.420 freedom element in there, has been winning.
00:14:12.040 Woke has been failing.
00:14:13.220 I mean, the Sidney Sweeney ad.
00:14:14.940 Sidney Sweeney ad was a biggie.
00:14:16.780 Look, our show we did last Saturday was a biggie.
00:14:20.140 There was three idiots there.
00:14:22.200 Some fat NPC check who didn't say a word.
00:14:24.920 Some guy who says don't tolerate fascists in any form and tells you to eat a D because
00:14:31.960 you're a fascist and we should tip the guys.
00:14:34.620 And then some other dude who is just standing there holding a sign.
00:14:37.760 And that was everyone who was there to protest.
00:14:41.560 So there's definitely a major culture shift.
00:14:44.580 Anthony Cumia yesterday was saying it's like hair bands where they were getting so bad with
00:14:50.180 like post-Cinderella, Striper, whatever, that grunge had to come.
00:14:55.280 It had to happen.
00:14:56.480 So we're in the nirvana phase of hair rock.
00:14:59.840 It's definitely a dinosaur extinct levels.
00:15:04.140 But there'll still be people on the outskirts that will never be invited back.
00:15:08.820 Have you recently tried to remedy any kind of the debanking stuff you've dealt with?
00:15:14.460 Uh, not recently.
00:15:17.580 I think I applied to PayPal because we thought we could sue them.
00:15:21.200 So that's still, you know, being mulled over.
00:15:24.620 But I don't know.
00:15:25.900 I like a cop recently.
00:15:27.660 I invited him on my podcast.
00:15:28.820 He goes, no, man, you're on a list.
00:15:30.220 I've never seen a list like that before.
00:15:32.240 There's I'll try again.
00:15:34.740 But I also don't want to rock the boat.
00:15:36.940 Like our app is just floating there, barely available.
00:15:40.300 And if we, you know, change one thing, it's sort of like, you know, when you're a little
00:15:44.140 kid and you're up past your bedtime and you're watching TV and you go and itch your nose and
00:15:49.240 then your dad's like, oh my God, look at this guy, my boy, time for a B-E-D, let's go.
00:15:55.560 That's where I live.
00:15:57.000 You just don't say anything and hope they don't notice.
00:15:59.260 I'm sitting on the couch next to my parents like this, watching like BJ and the bear,
00:16:03.920 petrified someone's going to see that I'm up past my bedtime.
00:16:06.340 I think I think it could only be the Proud Boys because you I don't think you're saying
00:16:12.620 anything or you tend to say anything that is more egregious than some of the more egregious
00:16:17.480 people that are actively on X and other platforms right now.
00:16:20.000 I'm a race mixing Zionist, libertarian, socially libertarian.
00:16:24.460 I want strong borders.
00:16:25.800 So did everyone a few years ago.
00:16:27.860 I mean, it's like you, even Alex Jones, like these people are all moderates.
00:16:32.860 There's there's very few radicals.
00:16:34.520 Nick Fuentes is very radical when it comes to Israel and Jews, but he's pretty moderate
00:16:40.600 with everything else.
00:16:41.720 And that's that's where we're at now.
00:16:43.540 And then you go look at their side and they're like pro terrorism, pro murder, kill Trump.
00:16:50.420 All of this super like like there's there.
00:16:53.800 The media is totally ignoring this trans domestic terrorism cult.
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00:17:56.480 That's already killed six people.
00:17:58.620 We just had Antifa bombing ice and the media is like, well, you know, you got to break some
00:18:03.640 eggs to make an omelet.
00:18:04.960 But anyway, it's a war.
00:18:06.800 This story, I think it was upstate New York.
00:18:09.960 There's the trans, what's it called?
00:18:12.080 The Ziz cult?
00:18:13.080 Zizians.
00:18:13.880 Zizians.
00:18:14.700 It's a literal cult of transgender people and they've already killed law enforcement.
00:18:19.600 That's crazy.
00:18:21.780 And you could argue that they're killing their own.
00:18:23.920 That's the other thing about these radical lefties.
00:18:25.860 When you brainwash a kid into getting in a firefight with state troopers over in Georgia because
00:18:30.880 they want to build a training ground, you've killed that kid.
00:18:33.720 You're responsible for that death.
00:18:35.280 If you're a bank robber and the getaway guy runs someone over, you're responsible for
00:18:39.680 that death.
00:18:40.660 So they're not just responsible for killing innocent people.
00:18:43.680 They're killing their own.
00:18:45.300 Yet we're the radicals.
00:18:47.500 I feel our comedy shows get canceled.
00:18:50.040 But this is actually pretty amazing because we we had a show last Saturday.
00:18:54.460 You were on the panel.
00:18:55.680 We were debating whether Trump was winning.
00:18:58.260 And we had a liberal guy who, bless his heart, he was the one talking against what like everyone
00:19:04.780 in the room was like, no, we're cool with Trump.
00:19:06.160 And he was the only one.
00:19:07.000 And we needed that.
00:19:08.100 But what's fascinating is they canceled the show.
00:19:10.040 And, you know, my first reaction was, I was like, well, we have Gavin on.
00:19:16.940 We figured they're going to they were going to cancel us.
00:19:19.440 They bring the show back and then we find out, no, it was me, not you.
00:19:22.900 They were targeting me.
00:19:24.220 And I was like, oh, wow.
00:19:25.020 I was like, oh, hey, cool, Gavin.
00:19:26.220 You know, you're in the clear.
00:19:27.060 They they weren't coming after you this time.
00:19:28.780 So it's surprising that we were able to win that.
00:19:32.360 So I'm wondering if if this is changing to a certain degree.
00:19:36.580 And what I will add is the whole Antifa Proud Boys things is so weird because my understanding
00:19:43.940 is that when first of all, you had Antifa going around firebombing, torching, burning,
00:19:49.420 destroying the Proud Boys only accidentally got involved in these in this in this protest stuff.
00:19:55.960 It was originally a joke.
00:19:56.960 I remember I interviewed you very briefly, I think it was in the Bay Area, and you were
00:20:03.440 talking about Aladdin and how it was a drinking club and it was just a gimmick and you were
00:20:08.060 largely not involved.
00:20:10.560 Then they declared it a terrorist organization.
00:20:13.940 It's but it didn't it wasn't like it was a joke and then it became a white nationalist
00:20:18.180 terror group that murders people for no reason.
00:20:20.440 It's still a joke at meetups.
00:20:22.080 They're still like walking around in in in that beaver costume.
00:20:25.960 The guy where you the the gas station, but it's named Bucky cheese, whatever his name
00:20:30.740 is.
00:20:31.000 Oh, yeah.
00:20:31.240 Bucky's.
00:20:31.860 They're wearing those costumes.
00:20:33.760 You know, they're throwing plastic dicks at each other when they're passed out.
00:20:37.140 It's it's still a can I say retarded?
00:20:41.140 It's still a retarded joke club.
00:20:43.000 Uh, but the media's changes, you know, the media's perception and I can prove that it
00:20:48.540 was and here's my proof.
00:20:50.740 Proud Boys never went to their things.
00:20:52.840 They always came to Proud Boys things.
00:20:55.180 And that's what people don't understand.
00:20:56.880 The amount of violence Antifa was fomenting at all these events.
00:21:01.020 You were you either stood there, sat there, took it.
00:21:03.980 You took the pepper spray.
00:21:05.220 You took the flash bomb.
00:21:06.460 You took the rocks.
00:21:07.880 You know that Lauren Southern once said to me, she goes, I felt like a LARPer because
00:21:11.300 I was wearing a helmet.
00:21:12.360 I had goggles on.
00:21:13.520 I had chest plates.
00:21:14.420 I had a gas mask.
00:21:15.500 I felt ridiculous, like some sort of Mad Max cosplay.
00:21:18.800 And then they threw rocks at me.
00:21:20.720 They pepper sprayed me.
00:21:22.140 There was flash bombs.
00:21:23.280 I ended up using all the things that I felt stupid having on my body.
00:21:27.420 So it was purely defensive that if they said you want to go, Proud Boys would say, yeah,
00:21:32.540 we want to go.
00:21:33.440 But you got to understand that Antifa is the paramilitary wing of the DNC and you can't
00:21:38.740 mess with their paramilitary wing or you're going to jail.
00:21:42.480 You know what I think it was is that the Proud Boys was the boogeyman they were looking for
00:21:46.340 with the far right because there's no actual prominent right wing group going around doing
00:21:51.220 anything.
00:21:51.680 The right doesn't even protest.
00:21:53.300 You know, I was talking about this with even the issue of porn, where you're going to find
00:21:58.180 almost every person, conservative, right leaning, is going to say kids shouldn't have access
00:22:02.440 to porn and there should be some restrictions.
00:22:04.880 But we don't think credit card companies should force the issue.
00:22:07.980 We think we should pass laws and win this one culturally, whereas the left says now we'll
00:22:12.980 show up with bricks and molotovs and force you to do it no matter what you want to do.
00:22:16.960 So you can't even get the right to use power like Trump won't even vote the Insurrection
00:22:21.100 Act on these riots.
00:22:21.940 It's all about manipulation.
00:22:25.540 And I think the beauty of the pendulum swinging back the other way is we're done with that
00:22:29.580 and not to harp on Sidney Sweeney, but obviously they were aware of the double entendre and
00:22:35.360 it could be seen as a eugenics thing, but they were leaning into it like the analogies
00:22:40.200 I was using the other day is say you had a commercial for white jeans and it was saying
00:22:43.840 we were wearing white after Labor Day and the motto was it's OK to be white.
00:22:47.700 That would be an egregious ad, but it would be them acknowledging that, yeah, I know you're
00:22:53.420 going to twist this and I don't care.
00:22:55.980 So we have to get to the point where we go, yes, I don't want kids watching porn.
00:23:00.620 I don't want them playing games with naked women in them.
00:23:03.160 But you're not going to use that against me.
00:23:05.000 And now put a chip in my hand in order to protect my children.
00:23:09.280 Stop trying to use my own, you know, patriarchal love for my family against me.
00:23:15.740 It is it is funny, though, because then you end up with like these creepy degenerates who
00:23:19.700 make weird anime porn games standing next to you being like, yeah, you're right.
00:23:23.160 I agree with you.
00:23:24.040 And you're like, oh, God, I don't I don't like I don't like you, but I'm in your side.
00:23:31.580 You know, I'm on your side.
00:23:32.880 That's that's.
00:23:33.900 And you know what?
00:23:34.720 We need more of that, believe it or not.
00:23:36.920 The left, the right needs more unity.
00:23:38.860 The left has unity to a fault, but they're down with pedophiles and violent terrorists.
00:23:44.400 And then we George Santos spends too much money on a chin job and we throw him in jail for
00:23:49.920 eight years.
00:23:50.680 Is that what it was?
00:23:51.240 Well, he spent some campaign money getting a chin implant.
00:23:56.960 OK, it is.
00:23:57.800 It is funny because you've had a bunch of Democrats who could easily have been challenged or questioned
00:24:02.680 or, you know, Ilhan Omar, according to the Star Tribune, and I'm quoting the Star Tribune,
00:24:08.540 may have married her brother.
00:24:09.840 That's a quote from the Star Tribune.
00:24:11.280 I'm not making that up.
00:24:12.060 And they lose it.
00:24:13.440 Hey, maybe we could investigate things like that.
00:24:15.880 But you can't get unity from the Republicans on any of these things.
00:24:18.680 They just they say they can't do it.
00:24:22.020 Well, we've got about eleven hundred days left where our guy is in control.
00:24:27.180 So we better make and this was his mistake in 2015.
00:24:29.960 We better make some permanent laws, some permanent changes in order to fix this, because without
00:24:35.560 another term with a J.D. Vance or a Donald Trump Jr.
00:24:38.900 or something, all of this hard work could be reversed.
00:24:41.960 And we could go back to seeing, you know, Viola Davis in every action movie kicking the
00:24:47.680 crap out of 50 Russian mobsters.
00:24:49.680 She'll be the new James Bond.
00:24:52.280 Yeah, great.
00:24:53.640 Yeah.
00:24:53.820 The Sidney Sweeney thing is actually really interesting.
00:24:57.240 And, you know, some people, yeah, and they're leaning in there.
00:25:02.020 I think they put out a statement.
00:25:03.900 I'm not sure if it was them, but it said 70 percent of people responded positively to the
00:25:07.440 ad.
00:25:07.620 They liked it.
00:25:08.420 But here's the crazy thing.
00:25:10.080 Since when was genetics synonymous with eugenics?
00:25:14.020 Simply mentioning that guys like big boobs and it's good genetics is not eugenics.
00:25:19.800 They didn't say stop breeding with inferior breasts.
00:25:22.940 They just said this woman's attractive.
00:25:25.960 All the left is obsessed with eugenics and it's all they do is practice it.
00:25:31.340 Why do you think they spend 50 grand a year on property tax up in Westchester, New York?
00:25:36.580 Because they want to isolate themselves from the paupers, from the peasants.
00:25:41.240 So they take it on the chin.
00:25:42.840 They lose all this money in taxes so they can go to all white schools.
00:25:46.480 All these liberals, all these ginos, Jews in name only, I call them, segregated.
00:25:51.060 I mean, secular Jews.
00:25:52.120 They all send their kids to all white schools and then they empty their bank account, sending
00:25:57.340 them to NYU for a quarter mil.
00:25:59.620 Why do they do that?
00:26:00.600 So they can get a degree in liberal arts?
00:26:02.440 No, it's eugenics.
00:26:03.500 They want their daughter to marry another rich person so they keep the money in the family.
00:26:09.480 That's all.
00:26:10.340 It's all genes.
00:26:11.360 They're obsessed with eugenics.
00:26:13.300 If any of these liberals had a boyfriend from the South Bronx or something, they'd be absolutely
00:26:19.140 mortified.
00:26:19.980 And it wouldn't be based on race.
00:26:21.720 It could be a white kid from the South Bronx and they would slit their wrists because you
00:26:25.540 just killed my genes that I've been working on.
00:26:28.500 I want to tell you this.
00:26:29.200 So I just recently had a kid.
00:26:30.060 And we're in West Virginia, but we're probably like five, 10 minutes away from Loudoun County,
00:26:36.220 which is the highest median income in the country, maybe the world.
00:26:39.140 And so when we were planning how we're going to do this, I said, whatever it is we do,
00:26:44.280 our doctor is going to be in Loudoun.
00:26:46.300 We are going to go to the doctors that the wealthy elites of DC use.
00:26:49.800 And here's the funny thing.
00:26:50.560 So baby is born.
00:26:52.160 She's healthy and happy.
00:26:53.760 And I'm talking to some people and they said, did they force you to get a bunch of shots
00:27:00.020 and vaccines?
00:27:00.900 And I went, no.
00:27:02.100 And they were like, they didn't.
00:27:03.840 And I was like, no, they asked us, they said, here are the available vitamins and, you
00:27:10.780 know, ointments and vaccines.
00:27:12.160 And we said, which ones do you think are necessary?
00:27:14.600 I think they were like vitamin K, but you can do eye drops if you don't want to do a shot.
00:27:17.800 And that's about it.
00:27:18.400 And we were like, maybe we'll do the eye drops or something.
00:27:21.340 And they were like, sure.
00:27:22.600 And then I was talking to somebody who had a kid recently in West Virginia, and they
00:27:26.680 were threatened by the hospital that they didn't give the kid a series of vaccines.
00:27:30.260 They were going to be forcefully ejected.
00:27:31.940 And the kid was getting those vaccines.
00:27:33.760 And I'm not anti-vaccine in any way.
00:27:36.300 I just take the recommendation to the doctors.
00:27:38.500 But I do find it interesting that in the impoverished area, some 40, 50 miles away, the doctors were
00:27:44.580 telling people, you can't leave or you can't take your kid until we do this and we will
00:27:50.240 physically remove you.
00:27:51.280 Then you go to the ultra wealthy area and they're like, literally anything you want, you just
00:27:55.420 tell us.
00:27:56.880 And that's how it works.
00:27:57.860 Incredible.
00:27:58.360 That's how it's a rich page story on the New York Times in a perfect world.
00:28:02.440 Where are the journalists covering stories like that?
00:28:05.240 This vaccines for the and not for me should be the biggest story of the year.
00:28:09.880 I was asked, they were like, wait, wait, you didn't, what vaccines, I was like, I don't
00:28:15.320 think, I don't know if we got any, I don't know.
00:28:17.400 And they're like, wait, what do you mean?
00:28:18.580 And I was like, I think we got a vitamin one.
00:28:20.160 I'm not sure.
00:28:20.940 They said, how did you do that?
00:28:22.240 And I said, you want to know the secret?
00:28:24.540 There's no, you just go to the rich doctor.
00:28:27.640 You like where all these wealthy liberals live, go there because it's rules for the and not
00:28:31.920 for me.
00:28:32.620 So just, you're allowed to drive there.
00:28:35.220 You're allowed to pull into the hospital and you're allowed to use that.
00:28:37.660 Like there's no one telling you, you can't.
00:28:39.000 I'll say this because we've got a couple of minutes left.
00:28:41.120 There's a fascinating reality to class in this country and the world.
00:28:45.600 And that is, if you're a server, if you serve people grilled cheeses at a diner on the south
00:28:51.500 side of Chicago, congratulations, you're going to make 30, 40 bucks a day.
00:28:55.080 If you go be a server at a diner, no formal training in a wealthy suburb or area like Loudoun
00:29:01.200 County, you'll be making two, 300 bucks a day because the food's going to be a more expensive
00:29:05.340 and the tips are going to be, are going to be much higher.
00:29:07.460 And it doesn't matter, all that matters is where you are.
00:29:11.060 I knew some chick who doesn't, she never did work.
00:29:13.720 She has no job.
00:29:14.680 What would she do?
00:29:15.260 She said once a year, she calls one of her millionaire friends and asks them if they're
00:29:18.780 in the market for any kind of art.
00:29:20.240 And if they say yes, she then calls a broker and says, I got a guy who wants to buy, he's
00:29:24.320 looking to spend 40 million.
00:29:25.680 And they said, here's what we've got.
00:29:27.160 She calls him and says, I got you set up, babe.
00:29:29.100 We'll get it transferred.
00:29:30.060 And then she gets 300 grand.
00:29:31.120 That simply by knowing rich people, that's the crazy reality of it.
00:29:36.840 Well, my, my con ed bills are about $40 a day to keep my house cool in the summer at
00:29:43.680 my studio in the South Bronx.
00:29:45.180 It's about half that, but that's still 20 bucks a day.
00:29:47.600 And I realized this morning that it used to be services are based on what you can afford.
00:29:53.620 So the grilled cheese in your fancy neighborhood, it's going to be 15 bucks at the deli in the
00:29:57.640 South Bronx.
00:29:58.180 It's going to be seven, but now utilities are based on what you can afford.
00:30:03.740 And con Edison is being like, oh, your house seems nice.
00:30:06.480 Okay.
00:30:06.840 $40 a day.
00:30:07.840 You got to pay.
00:30:08.660 You know what else people don't realize?
00:30:09.880 Have you noticed that in, uh, not every, but many cities that have tolls, it's always a
00:30:15.420 toll on the way in, but never the way out.
00:30:16.860 I remember because New York does this and San Francisco does it.
00:30:22.600 And San Francisco, I think was expensive.
00:30:24.360 I don't know if it was like 15 bucks or something.
00:30:26.120 I think, I think New York was like 10 or 15 bucks.
00:30:28.480 And I was like, that's interesting.
00:30:29.800 If you're a poor person and you want to drive into New York, you're going, oh man, but it's
00:30:35.020 15 bucks.
00:30:35.620 I better not do it.
00:30:36.620 But if you're a poor person in New York, you're like, it's free to leave.
00:30:40.020 Just costs money to come in.
00:30:41.980 Get out of here.
00:30:43.360 I've been riding my motorcycle this whole week with no helmet.
00:30:46.040 Not on the highway, but around South Bronx and Westchester.
00:30:49.500 And my, my, I'm, I have my whole speech ready for when I get pulled over.
00:30:52.500 And it's like, all I see is people of color, not wearing a helmet that half of them don't
00:30:57.720 even have license plates on their motorcycle.
00:30:59.720 Why are you punishing those who follow the rules?
00:31:01.820 It's like immigration.
00:31:02.700 You get a visa and a green card and then a, and then citizenship.
00:31:06.260 You spend tens of thousands of dollars, or you could just wander in.
00:31:09.580 I'm sick of being punished for following the rules.
00:31:12.860 I'm not doing it anymore.
00:31:14.280 I, so I, I do think we're winning, but we're just about out of time.
00:31:17.540 Is there anything you wanted to say before we wrap up?
00:31:19.720 Any final thoughts?
00:31:20.340 No, please go to censor.tv.
00:31:23.900 And yeah, that, that event we did on Saturday was super fun.
00:31:28.680 I got a comedy special coming out that's going to be pay-per-view.
00:31:32.480 And I seem to be getting calls for, to do comedy shows.
00:31:36.160 So there is, there's a lot of small indicators that the culture is changing.
00:31:40.720 And it's, I think academia, Canada, uh, will be the last to catch up and movies.
00:31:47.560 Those will be the last three groups to catch up to this anti-woke movement.
00:31:51.400 But I think we're in a good spot.
00:31:53.540 Right on, man.
00:31:54.040 Well, thanks for, for hanging out and sharing your insights.
00:31:55.980 We'll, we'll see you next time.
00:31:57.220 Thanks for having me.
00:31:57.980 Have a go, man.
00:31:59.440 Cheers.
00:31:59.940 Of course, that is Gavin McInnes.
00:32:02.940 And, uh, man, nobody has been more debanked than him.
00:32:06.520 And it, and it, and honestly, it's freaky and it makes no sense.
00:32:09.040 There was a period where everybody in this space that was fighting against us knew the
00:32:14.140 limits and there were concerns about it.
00:32:16.140 When we had Alex Jones on the first time on Timcast IRL, we were talking about booking
00:32:21.020 him and we knew he was persona non grata.
00:32:23.540 I reached out to our Google rep, our YouTube rep.
00:32:25.720 And I said, is there any rule against interviewing Alex Jones on our show?
00:32:30.220 And they said, absolutely not.
00:32:31.240 They said, you can absolutely bring him on, talk to him.
00:32:33.660 He just can't have his own channel.
00:32:35.060 I said, fantastic.
00:32:36.060 We did the episode with Michael Malice and Alex Jones one week later, not even a week.
00:32:42.160 It was like four days.
00:32:43.060 They deleted it.
00:32:44.560 They made up some fake reason.
00:32:46.380 They never explained to us why it was deleted.
00:32:48.460 And they said, don't worry.
00:32:49.520 It's just a warning.
00:32:50.660 I immediately called Alex and Michael and said, come back.
00:32:54.380 We're doing the show again.
00:32:55.680 So we did, we did another show with Jones and Rogan, our most, our biggest show ever had,
00:33:02.560 I don't know.
00:33:03.140 It's like eight to 10 million views.
00:33:04.680 Cause it was Joe Rogan.
00:33:05.620 Come on.
00:33:05.840 It's easy.
00:33:06.260 It's obvious.
00:33:07.000 Joe Rogan, Alex Jones, Luke Rutkowski, Drew Hernandez, Blair White, Michael Mez.
00:33:11.620 It was nuts.
00:33:13.580 Three years after it aired, they deleted it.
00:33:17.460 And they wouldn't tell me why.
00:33:19.280 They said, someone said something that was medical misinformation.
00:33:21.960 And I said, BS, but you know what?
00:33:26.440 I think things are changing.
00:33:28.040 Our event got canceled on Saturday and I thought it was Gavin.
00:33:31.180 I was like, well, you know, we wanted to have Gavin there.
00:33:33.900 And then they brought it back and they were actually targeting me.
00:33:38.140 Alex Stein, he was like, I've never seen someone get their venue back.
00:33:41.420 We are winning.
00:33:42.880 Sane, rational thought is winning.
00:33:45.620 We haven't won completely, but winning.
00:33:47.940 So I actually think anybody who knows the real story of the Proud Boys and Gavin, he's not a white supremacist.
00:33:54.000 He's not white nationalist.
00:33:55.900 It's insane.
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00:35:23.000 They just turned him into a boogeyman.
00:35:25.360 By all means, he makes offensive jokes and you can not like the guy.
00:35:28.680 But there are substantially worse people.
00:35:32.160 Seriously, I wonder if it's going to start turning around, especially for Gavin.
00:35:35.660 So I do appreciate, Gavin, you coming on the show.
00:35:37.540 For everybody else, we're going to gear up for that raid on Russell Brand, who they're also trying to cancel.
00:35:43.560 It's insane.
00:35:44.100 My friends, smash that like button.
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00:35:51.380 We got another show coming up this Saturday at the D.C. Comedy Loft.
00:35:55.760 And we have a prominent liberal, a big liberal that we're hoping will come on and join this police debate.
00:36:02.400 Because we're having anarchist Michael Malice, who's pro-Trump but critical of the police, with angry cops, Richard Hyde, a literal cop.
00:36:09.800 And they're both absolutely hilarious.
00:36:11.580 So I imagine this is going to be one of the funniest shows we do.
00:36:14.760 And it's just about sold out.
00:36:16.640 I think we're expecting 200 people.
00:36:18.860 It's going to be just absolutely nuts.
00:36:21.140 But I hope to see you there.
00:36:22.360 It's going to get crowded.
00:36:23.840 D.C. Comedy Loft's got a full kitchen.
00:36:25.120 They've got a bar.
00:36:25.700 It's fantastic.
00:36:26.240 You get wings.
00:36:26.580 Last time we gave out, one of the employees on Saturday autographed a mustard.
00:36:32.800 And then we were like, anybody who gets the autographed mustard wins.
00:36:35.920 You win a signed skateboard deck.
00:36:37.740 Step on snack, I think it was.
00:36:39.320 And so I guess somebody won it.
00:36:40.920 I don't know.
00:36:41.400 It's fun, though.
00:36:42.480 So, again, hang out with Russell Brand, guys.
00:36:44.880 We're back tonight at 8 p.m. for TimCast IRL.
00:36:47.140 Thank you so much for hanging out with us.
00:36:49.040 And we will see you all in the next bit.
00:36:56.580 Thank you.