The Culture War - Tim Pool - January 05, 2024


The Culture War #45 - The Truth Of Missing Flight MH370, Alien Conspiracy In Miami


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2 hours and 22 minutes

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222.60957

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31,672

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2,260

Misogynist Sentences

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Hate Speech Sentences

25


Summary

In this episode of Conspiracy Theories, we discuss the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370, and whether or not it could be the work of the government or if it was actually an alien abduction. We are joined by the founder of MH370X, a group dedicated to finding out the truth about what happened to Flight MH370. Sponsors! Best Fiends - Rate, review, and subscribe to our new show on Apple Podcasts, and stay up to date on all things Conspiracy theories and everything else going on in the world. Have a question or suggestion? Call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 1-800-273-8255 or text "ELT" to 741741 and we'll get them on the show. Thanks for listening and share the podcast with your fellow podcasters! Timestamps: 1:00:00 - What actually happened to MH370? 4:30 - Did something happen to the plane 7:00 8:15 - Is it a government conspiracy or 9:20 - Is this all a hoax 11:40 - Is there any truth to this story 13:30 16:15 17:40 18:00 The truth about MH370x? 19:00 Is this a government cover-up 22:00 What is going on with MH370 ? 23:00 Can aliens really have a role in this story? or is this a hoax ? 26:00 27: What are we dealing with this story ? 29: Is this really a hoax? 35:00 Do we know what's going on? 31: What is the truth? 36:00 Does this story even matter? 37:00 Who are these things really happen? 39:00 38:00 Could aliens really exist? 40:00 Are they even here? 41:00 39:10 45:00 45:10 - What are they have a point? 44:00 47: Does this really matter 47:00 41: What do we know? Theme song by Ian Dwayne McDade Theme music by Jeffree Stars Theme by Ian Mac Miller and Friends Theme Music by Skynyrd Music by Ian Somerwhite Theme Song by Ian Orr & Other Music by Haley Shaw by Suneaters


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00:00:57.060 There's a viral video going around showing one of the biggest police responses we've ever seen in
00:01:03.460 Miami. So people claim. I don't know how true that is. All I know is there is a video showing
00:01:09.140 a ton of cops in Miami. It's from a couple days ago. And there's people claiming that flights
00:01:14.000 were shut down. And we have no idea what it was. To be honest, it's probably just someone made a
00:01:18.520 prank phone call or a bomb threat or something like that. Of course, there are viral videos where
00:01:21.920 people are claiming they saw 10 foot tall alien creatures walking through the mall.
00:01:26.720 You know, if you believe these things you see on the Internet, man, I got a bridge to sell you.
00:01:29.980 But it's still fun either way. And at any rate, it doesn't seem like we've been given a good answer
00:01:36.240 as to why there was this massive police response, because at the bare minimum,
00:01:40.260 you know, when I saw this video, Matt Walsh posted, by the way, and I see all of these cop cars,
00:01:44.160 I'm kind of like, you'd think that'd be in the news. But it's been a couple days. And I'm just
00:01:48.760 now hearing about it. It seems like nobody brought it up. There was no press conference, police reports,
00:01:53.440 or unless they were, and we all just kind of forgot about it, because I don't know, we're a bit lazy
00:01:57.660 coming off the new year. But we'll talk about that. And then of course, the core segment here,
00:02:02.980 the truth about that missing, missing plane. And I hear a bunch of man when this when this story
00:02:08.880 happened, it was just nonstop in the press every day, 24 seven on CNN. And I was just like, yo,
00:02:14.660 I literally don't care. I mean, look, a plane crashed. I'm sorry, man. I mean, it's tragic.
00:02:18.500 It really is. But why is it every waking minute on cable television? And now I got people telling
00:02:23.780 me like, did you see though, there was like a voicemail where someone claimed there was like
00:02:27.080 that people were captured and it came from his phone. And I'm like, well, hold on, what's going on
00:02:30.620 here? And then we had someone on Timcast IRL tell us like, you gotta talk to these guys,
00:02:35.340 cause they got videos and it could be a military conspiracy, could be government contracts or
00:02:40.240 maybe aliens. So we're going to talk about that. We got a couple of guys joining us. Would you guys
00:02:45.100 like to introduce yourself? I don't know who wants to go first. Sure. Yeah. Hey, my name is Ashton
00:02:48.300 Forbes. I am the originator and start investigator into the MH370 videos, organizer of MH370X,
00:02:56.420 which has been a community led investigation into understanding the videos and getting to the
00:03:01.200 true fate of MH370. Right on. My name is Dave Rossi. I have a YouTube channel called Generation Z
00:03:07.360 and I'm also a defense contractor for private groups, institutions, DOD, et cetera. So.
00:03:13.280 And, and right now, you know, on X, formerly known as Twitter, aliens is trending because of this story
00:03:18.680 in Miami. So we'll, we'll definitely get into that too. And, and because of this, I had to bring in
00:03:22.340 our, our alien expert, Shane. What's up? Writer for Scanner, author of the Inverted World series.
00:03:27.440 And that 10 foot alien they saw in Florida is actually Jeb Bush. You were waiting for that
00:03:33.120 one. I couldn't wait. Sorry. Yeah. Well, uh, subscribe to the channel. Thanks for hanging
00:03:37.200 out. Let's, uh, where should we get started? I mean, let's, let's start with this story.
00:03:41.520 When you pull up Malaysian airlines, flight 370, they actually have a physically improbable
00:03:48.760 theories section. I love this because they don't say impossible. They say physically improbable.
00:03:54.180 And it says in March, 2018, around the fourth anniversary of flight 370's disappearance,
00:03:58.900 an individual received strange voicemails and texts with coordinates of a location in Indonesia,
00:04:03.940 somewhat close to where flight 370 vanished. The voicemails coded in the NATO phonetic alphabet
00:04:08.480 alluded to an alien abduction. This generated significant media attention as the man who
00:04:13.000 received the text and voicemails also claimed that someone had showed up and taken pictures
00:04:16.220 of his house. Although this was never conclusively verified, the calls were placed using a voiceover
00:04:20.460 IP service and were traced to two hotels in Port Blair. Though the identity of the caller
00:04:24.800 remains uncertain, investigators dismissed the phone calls as most likely being a prank
00:04:29.060 or hoax. Well, let's, let's, let's get started here. I suppose. What is, what is this missing
00:04:34.380 flight? What happened? Yeah. So with respect to the missing flight and I've heard about the phone
00:04:38.780 call and the voicemails and I didn't find a lot of credibility to it. So I haven't really reported
00:04:43.600 on that very much because there is a lot of evidence out there that is credible. So, you know,
00:04:47.800 this flight took off from Kuala Lumpur. It was headed to Beijing, Northeast, and it goes dark
00:04:53.080 40 minutes into the flight. So the scenario that we've put forth from investigating this for the
00:04:58.100 last five months almost is actually a fire scenario related to the lithium ion batteries in the cargo
00:05:03.640 bay. So there was almost 500 pounds of lithium ion batteries in the cargo bay. Two stacks of them
00:05:09.260 were actually in the forward cargo bay near the main equipment center, which is also known as the
00:05:14.000 electronics bay. So these things are very dangerous cargo that actually were outlawed by the FAA in
00:05:21.240 passenger flights in the cargo bay of them because of the how dangerous they were. They weren't scanned.
00:05:25.640 They were put together that day. We believe they actually exploded and damaged the electronics bay of
00:05:30.500 the plane. And there's actually 19 witnesses that corroborate this event, including Mike McKay,
00:05:34.860 who's on an oil rig that sees the plane on fire the same time that it goes dark. He sends an email out
00:05:40.060 the next day saying, hey guys, I think I saw the plane. The plane turns around. Where does it go?
00:05:44.760 It goes to the closest airport, Penang Airport. And you can actually check and find on the internet,
00:05:50.420 if you Google MH370 Wired, you find an article that talks about a fire scenario, electronics fire
00:05:56.320 scenario being the most likely cause of what happened to MH370. Simple explanation. There's even nine
00:06:01.400 witnesses along the coast that hear loud noises at the same time when this plane, when this fire erupts.
00:06:07.140 And then 10 minutes later, there are eight fishermen on a boat who actually see the plane
00:06:12.360 flying very low. And the reason why you see the plane flying low is perhaps it was depressurized,
00:06:17.260 but not because the captain is trying to knock everybody out because the fire, the explosion of
00:06:21.640 these lithium ion batteries caused it to depressurize. And so you see it flying low because
00:06:25.400 they're trying to get enough oxygen for those passengers to breathe. So it flies back across
00:06:30.060 the peninsula of Malaysia, goes to Penang. For whatever reason, it doesn't land in Penang.
00:06:33.740 The cell phone of the co-pilot pings one of the cell towers down below. This would also not
00:06:38.900 necessarily, it could indicate there's some kind of emergency. It could be really pretty much
00:06:42.020 anything, but they're trying to get help. We've hypothesized the reason why it doesn't land is
00:06:46.380 because it's not safe, either because their landing gear can't be deployed. And the next thing you're
00:06:50.960 supposed to do for a pilot scenario is you're supposed to try to land on your belly, actually on
00:06:54.280 the ground. I didn't know that. The problem is if you have six hours of fuel in your plane, you try to
00:06:58.160 land on your belly, plane's probably going to explode. And if you try to dump the fuel in a fire scenario,
00:07:03.220 that might also be risky. So talking to pilots, it would become kind of a judgment call at that
00:07:08.640 point. Like, what do we want to do? The next thing you're supposed to do is try to land in the ocean.
00:07:12.860 So where does this plane go? It goes to the Andaman Sea. It turns and goes towards Andaman Sea.
00:07:18.580 There happens to be Cope Tiger exercises happening there between United States, Thailand, and Singapore
00:07:24.680 in that area at the time. So if this is some kind of suicide route, this is the last place you want to
00:07:29.940 go to, because that's where all the most advanced equipment is set up. That's where they're going to
00:07:33.380 be trying to protect that information or protect those assets. They've got radar there. So it gets
00:07:38.280 to the Andaman Sea. If you look the next day, you'll find that the time they said they lost contact with
00:07:42.840 the plane was 1840 UTC. They end up changing this days later, say, oh, no, we lost radar contact at
00:07:49.080 1815 UTC, 1822 UTC. The reason why this is important is 1840 UTC is when Catherine T is on a boat.
00:07:56.860 She's going to Phuket. She sees a glowing orange plane with no navigation lights.
00:08:02.080 Everybody agrees she was on the route of MH370. All of these witnesses that I've talked about have
00:08:06.500 basically just been discredited. We found out that the reason why she was seeing an orange
00:08:10.420 glowing plane is because halon, the fire extinguishing gas that they would have been
00:08:14.140 using to put the fire out, can last for up to three hours. It can release bromine, which is a halogen
00:08:19.140 gas. Halogen lamps, if you look at it, glow orange, just like her sighting and her recreation that's
00:08:24.600 out there. So that's how we were able to figure out this fire scenario and figure out this dangerous
00:08:28.800 cargo is out there. This is also the same time and location where we think the videos are happening,
00:08:34.100 the MH370 videos. When we look at those videos, you can see there's smoke coming out the back of
00:08:38.720 the plane. And we know that because we can see cumulus clouds in the background, which only form
00:08:42.420 at low altitudes. Contrails only form at 18,000 feet and above. So we have videos that corroborate what
00:08:50.500 the witness was seeing. She says she sees the plane flying low and descending. We have videos
00:08:55.300 that show that same thing. And then we also have a Mayday calls only reported in Chinese news. The
00:09:00.100 West didn't report on it at all. That was claimed to be an intercepted communication from the Thai
00:09:04.620 embassy that China got ahold of. That was of MH370 with the pilot or co-pilot saying that the plane
00:09:10.300 was disintegrating and attempting an emergency landing. So let's starting as simply as possible.
00:09:16.220 I mean, people probably, it's been like 10 years, hasn't it? This is a plane that basically vanished
00:09:21.120 as far as public reporting knows. And CNN would not shut up about it. And my favorite was, oh,
00:09:30.220 you know, look, let me ask you guys, have you been called crazy for some of the theories you
00:09:34.660 proposed? Constantly. Okay, well, don't worry, because nothing you propose is as crazy as Don
00:09:39.560 Lemon, asking about whether or not a black hole sucked the plane up. I made a video when this
00:09:46.220 happened, because his guest was like, even a small black hole would suck up the whole universe.
00:09:50.460 And it's like, no, there's actually quite a bit of them, at least as far as we know. And
00:09:53.760 they wouldn't come anywhere near close to Earth, or at least if they did, we would not know about it
00:09:57.520 because we would be crushed the moment it got close to the planet. But that was CNN. That's how
00:10:03.200 crazy they went. And I had people defending Don Lemon. Oh, we love the guy. He's gone, by the way.
00:10:07.200 He's no longer there. We don't know what he's doing. But they were like, well, he was just
00:10:10.440 entertaining and having fun. I'm like, oh, come on. Dude goes on cable TV. And he's like, people
00:10:15.340 are saying a black hole could have swallowed this plane. All right. Well, what you've proposed is,
00:10:19.920 let me slow down. A plane went missing. And there's no, what's the official answer as to how
00:10:25.760 this plane just vanished and its passengers and everything's gone? So first of all, I want to
00:10:28.780 mention the Don Lemon thing, because I post that too, because that's the craziest thing I've ever seen
00:10:32.260 on CNN. And there's a lot of crazy stuff on CNN for sure. But we might end up owing Don Lemon
00:10:36.460 doing a bit of an apology here, because maybe it's not a black hole, but it looks pretty damn
00:10:39.660 similar watching these videos. So, you know, from the beginning, like, yeah, that part is crazy.
00:10:45.980 The other thing I want to mention real quick as well is that there's also a piece by Dianne
00:10:48.900 Feinstein, who's also, I think, on CNN, where she mentions she won't mention about the satellites
00:10:54.040 in terms of what the satellites saw. And she's very sketchy when she's asked about like,
00:10:58.060 we have to have better satellite pictures. They look at the bin Laden raid and they're like,
00:11:01.360 look at the resolution of the bin Laden raid. But somehow we don't have any evidence of this
00:11:05.400 plane crashed into the ocean. So the official story is actually, they don't know what happened
00:11:08.960 to the plane.
00:11:09.740 They don't talk about the fire, do they? Does the official story like how confident are you
00:11:13.300 in the fire narrative?
00:11:15.320 I'm almost 100% sure that it was a fire scenario. And the reason why this doesn't get any credit
00:11:21.500 to it is because that it completely rules out the idea of this plane went to the South
00:11:24.980 Indian Ocean. Right. So that's what the narrative is out there. But that's not actually the official
00:11:29.920 story. If you look at the reports, the official reports say they don't know what happened
00:11:32.660 to the plane. But there's these narratives out there that everybody believes that, oh,
00:11:36.100 this was a pilot suicide that he flew into the South Indian Ocean. And the reason why
00:11:40.520 they can't then reconcile this with the fire is because if there was a fire, it's already
00:11:44.300 a miracle that the plane lasts for an hour and 20 minutes, which we needed to get to in
00:11:47.700 order to get to where our videos are. And that is that location, Nicobar Island is actually
00:11:51.600 indicated by one of the videos. There's coordinates in the bottom left that indicate the Nicobar
00:11:55.580 Island.
00:11:55.700 You're referencing the satellite images with the coordinates.
00:11:58.720 Correct. And then when it comes to the was a Catherine, the lady Catherine. Yeah.
00:12:03.220 Did she think the plane was on fire when she saw it? Like, so how did she describe it?
00:12:06.580 She said that the plane was not necessarily on fire, but it's glowing orange and that she
00:12:11.100 saw a dark smoke coming out of the back of it. The way she described it was like it looked
00:12:14.980 like the engines needed some, you know, they needed to fix the engines or something like
00:12:18.900 nighttime. Yeah. And nighttime. But keep in mind, it's pitch black. There's no moon out.
00:12:23.360 There's no sun out. Right. And you're not like you're in the city. You don't have light
00:12:26.860 pollution. Right. So you can actually see a little bit better when you have those types
00:12:29.800 of scenarios where it's like extremely dark. Like, yeah, no, that's crazy. Uh, just imagining
00:12:35.140 seeing that above you. Did she call, did she report that? Yeah. Yeah. So she immediately
00:12:39.620 reported it. Now keep in mind, it took her like a day or so to get back to the pet. But once she
00:12:43.380 got there, she did report it. So this has been very well documented. She even sticks to her story
00:12:47.980 nine years later. Right. Um, the, her last Twitter post was like in 2022, where it was
00:12:53.600 the silence is sinister in terms of why people haven't been speaking out, why the families
00:12:58.940 went quiet. Um, yeah. So this official narrative is that this was somehow a suicide route, but
00:13:04.780 as we just kind of talked about with that route, nothing about the route indicates suicide.
00:13:09.140 Right. We found this guy, Matthias Chang, and he was actually, he's a lawyer, a prominent lawyer,
00:13:14.760 and he was an advisor to prime minister Ma Tears, which is one of the longest tenured.
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00:14:40.520 that's really big on care. Did I mention that we care? Prime Minister's in Malaysia. So this is a guy
00:14:48.640 who would be in the know. And even he mentions that the whole story doesn't add up at all. Like if you
00:14:54.440 are a suicide pilot, you're just going to crash a plane anywhere on. You're not trying to like
00:14:57.880 go around the coast of Indonesia to avoid radar. First of all, that's not really how you avoid radar
00:15:02.880 anyway, but you just don't care if you're trying to avoid, if you're a suicide pilot, if they send
00:15:07.580 up jets after you just crash the plane. There's, yeah, this story is so complex and like we have
00:15:12.220 to build up to the satellite images that you've guys been talking about so much, but everything up
00:15:17.140 to that is equally, if not more insane because of there's so many moving parts. When it comes to like
00:15:23.780 the, the fire narrative, uh, how does that, does that play into how you, when you're looking at
00:15:28.800 the footage of the satellite imagery, like, are you seeing things that kind of support that?
00:15:33.760 Yeah. So early on my first in-person podcast was actually with Tony Merkel. And back then we didn't
00:15:38.580 have all this evidence. Like this has been a case that's been building and the people even now who
00:15:42.860 are following along, like you get to be part of potentially one of the greatest conspiracies and
00:15:46.920 investigations in history, the real story of MH370. Back then I thought, okay, there's a 50,
00:15:52.020 50 chance of what we were looking at here was some type of non-human intelligence intervention,
00:15:56.120 or I thought maybe it was an espionage scenario where the United States was trying to prevent
00:16:00.540 these engineers, 20 free-scale engineers from getting to China. Because what we found out is
00:16:06.240 they're directly tied to the technology we see that we'll probably talk about a little bit later.
00:16:09.940 So that's a good place to start then just real, because the people on the plane are very
00:16:13.780 interesting. There's 20 free-scan or free-scale engineers, right? And then on top of that,
00:16:19.040 there's also two Iranians with fake passports. Yeah, they changed their appearance to look
00:16:23.980 more like the people on the passport. They stole the passports and they were traveling together.
00:16:29.060 We've seen the real people. Yeah, the real people, there's like a picture with his passport. He's
00:16:32.040 like, hey, this is me. I wasn't on the plane. Is it possible that this plane traveled through a
00:16:36.460 rift in the time-space continuum where everyone who was awake vanished, leaving their clothes
00:16:40.040 behind? And the people who were asleep woke up in this dimension where they were behind time
00:16:45.300 and then gigantic, uh, nutsack-looking monsters started eating reality?
00:16:49.240 Well, well, so you can follow-
00:16:51.240 Anybody who gets that reference!
00:16:53.240 Minus the last part I was going to bring up, yeah, the time-space ripple speaks to a,
00:16:57.440 I know you brought up in the past, FTL communication. And I am here to also humbly say
00:17:02.280 that in my opinion, based on the experiments that I've done and some other things, it's very
00:17:06.520 possible that the enablement and the energies used in FTL communication are the same underlying
00:17:11.440 conceptual, um, we could say energies that would enable the effects we see on a larger
00:17:15.640 scale in the 370 case, for example.
00:17:17.540 I just want to point out that was a joke, and it was a reference to Stephen King.
00:17:22.080 There's someone listening being like, what is he talking about? It's a movie called The
00:17:25.540 Langoliers.
00:17:26.520 I haven't seen it.
00:17:27.840 Well, I think a lot of people talk about predictive programming, too, though. And other things that
00:17:30.820 people have brought up is the show Lost, the show Manifest, which I never, I never watched
00:17:34.200 Manifest, and Lost could have done with some better end seasons, but, um-
00:17:37.740 I disagree, but that's for another show.
00:17:39.320 Have you guys seen the film Tenet, by chance, by Christopher Nolan?
00:17:42.960 Yes.
00:17:43.340 Okay.
00:17:43.760 We're also on Tenet media, right?
00:17:45.240 Oh, perfect.
00:17:45.980 Okay, well, Tenet is something that I think speaks very strongly to what we could say time
00:17:50.400 reversal, negentropy, antimatter, whatever you want to call it, essentially. And it speaks
00:17:54.580 to this notion that, for example, certain people or certain pilots, in many cases, even
00:17:58.960 flying over the Bermuda Triangle, have reported in the past where they would land and they'd
00:18:02.520 have, for example, extra fuel in their tank or way more than they were supposed to.
00:18:06.500 And it speaks to a potential form of a temporal anomaly, this notion that time is not necessarily
00:18:11.740 straight. So if we think of this idea that when you wake up in the morning, you have
00:18:15.420 breakfast, you go to work, et cetera. If we think of the possibility that from what's
00:18:19.440 called a quantum perspective, you wake up in the morning, you go to work, then you have
00:18:24.000 breakfast, you go to sleep, and then you go see your friends. A completely change of order
00:18:29.240 of perspective and experience.
00:18:31.120 I was talking to, who was I talking to? Someone was hanging out here, and I told them that
00:18:35.340 we, in fact, can time travel. At any point of our own volition, we can choose to just
00:18:40.220 go back in time or forward in time. Not forward in time, we can only go back in time. And I'm
00:18:44.360 actually kidding. My point was, based on, I think, what humans think they know about time
00:18:52.640 and space and dimensions, M-theory, et cetera, whatever you want to believe. The issue with
00:18:57.520 our perception of time as being linear, forward-moving, is that our perception is built upon
00:19:03.200 the reactions in our brain.
00:19:05.440 Right.
00:19:05.860 So think of it this way. Your conscious thought is a Jenga tower, is a block tower that's being
00:19:12.120 stacked upon.
00:19:12.880 Yeah.
00:19:13.060 You can reverse and take all those blocks off, but then your perspective and understanding
00:19:17.380 of the world is back to where it was. So there's no... I guess my point is, time isn't moving
00:19:24.220 forward. Our perspective of reality can only be built upon one layer at a time, and that
00:19:31.060 is how we perceive reality.
00:19:33.780 You just, in a certain way, you just described infolding and outfolding, Bohmian decoherence,
00:19:40.160 very heavy quantum mechanics concepts you just described. Yeah.
00:19:43.260 The topology, the whole thing.
00:19:44.780 Yeah.
00:19:45.000 If I can just jump in, I would like to say, too, that time dilation is a real, real scientific
00:19:49.220 concept. It's not science fiction at all. If you were to actually watch the movie Interstellar,
00:19:53.240 it's very well described there, where the amount, the speed in which your time moves
00:19:57.660 is relative to how much mass you're next to. The reason why we experience the same time
00:20:00.660 is because we're all on the same planet right next to each other with the same general
00:20:04.220 amount of mass. But if you were to go near a black hole, your time is going to slow
00:20:08.260 down. And people say this as well.
00:20:09.820 And what really irks me about Star Trek is that when I was, you know, when I'm younger
00:20:16.000 and I'm reading about time dilation and gravity and what you're mentioning, this would mean
00:20:21.220 that the Federation could not be cohesive because simply by existing on Earth, time is moving
00:20:27.880 at a different rate for someone who's existing on Mars.
00:20:30.140 Yeah.
00:20:30.720 Well, if I can give a quick example, if we think of, for example, to add to your point,
00:20:34.420 Tim, if we think of, say, a fish bowl with water in it and there's fish in there and we
00:20:38.980 shoot a laser from outside of the bowl into the water, what happens is when the laser hits
00:20:43.800 the bowl, the photons are kinetically re-emitting, reabsorbing, et cetera, et cetera.
00:20:47.700 So to the fish inside that bowl, that laser beam is by definition, the limit of the speed
00:20:52.420 of light within that particular bowl.
00:20:54.480 And so when we take it one step further, we realize that if we took humans and we put
00:20:58.740 them in a body of water where that water is the exact same temperature as that particular
00:21:03.260 person, it's other than having problems to breathe, they wouldn't realize they're in
00:21:07.280 water.
00:21:07.740 And so if we think of that same concept as to now what we refer to as empty space or the
00:21:12.980 ether or whatever you want to call it, if we can somehow find a way to lock into the
00:21:17.080 resonance of these type of particles that we can't see, but are all around us, it may
00:21:21.720 enable some of these effects to occur.
00:21:23.660 I want to, I want to, we'll, we'll, we'll bring things a little bit back, but the sci-fi
00:21:27.040 stuff is not really sci-fi stuff.
00:21:28.880 Here's the point I want to make.
00:21:30.860 There is absolutely technology that exists that the, the American people don't know about
00:21:35.020 that if they were told were to exist, they would say, you're lying to me, no matter
00:21:38.580 what you do, uh, I can give you a half example, something that is plausible enough that people
00:21:44.460 could believe exists, but have never witnessed and seen science fiction.
00:21:47.560 And as you mentioned, FTL communications, faster than light communications already exists.
00:21:52.420 And the base, and this is not an exaggeration.
00:21:55.580 This is not science fiction.
00:21:57.480 Google search quantum entanglement, and you will understand the rudimentary forms of faster
00:22:02.900 than light communication, two particles that are entangled that when they interact with
00:22:07.780 one, the other responds the exact same way.
00:22:10.160 This allows for basic binary data transmission faster than the speed of light, and it can
00:22:14.160 be done interplanetary.
00:22:16.100 So it's, it's, it's, when we're, when we're, when you're watching Star Trek, they have subspace.
00:22:20.620 They needed to come up with some sci-fi way of explaining how they can communicate with
00:22:23.940 earth when there are thousands of light years away.
00:22:26.640 Right.
00:22:26.940 So subspace, but then what does that even mean?
00:22:29.100 Right.
00:22:29.400 It wouldn't, it wouldn't actually even have to be that way.
00:22:31.240 It could simply just be the communications device on the ship contains an entangled particle,
00:22:35.900 which corresponds with a data center hub and gives them FTL internet to communicate in real
00:22:42.580 time, faster than the speed of light.
00:22:44.760 Right.
00:22:44.940 But I think perhaps faster than the speed of light is a misunderstanding of what is actually
00:22:49.900 going on with quantum entanglement.
00:22:51.200 It could literally just be multidimensional transmission in that the particle itself is
00:22:57.760 a point at two ends of a dimension we can't perceive.
00:23:00.820 So in our reality, it appears that we're thousands of miles away, but if you were actually to
00:23:05.820 move outside of the third dimension, you can see we're just flicking the same stick and
00:23:10.340 it's just space, time is full.
00:23:12.360 Yes.
00:23:12.600 So if I could just jump into what I would say is that I think you were on with Brian Lupo,
00:23:15.600 he gave a shout out and I heard him, I heard you actually mentioned faster than light communication.
00:23:19.200 And that's how I knew we could have a good conversation because if you take that same concept and
00:23:22.920 you scale it up, now you have this idea of macroscopic phase conjugation, macroscopic quantum
00:23:28.360 coherence, which is essentially teleportation of a macro scale object.
00:23:32.720 Now, in order to unify these two concepts, there's something called ER equals EPR.
00:23:36.480 And it's been promoted by Leonard Susskind and Juan Maldicina.
00:23:40.620 And this is the idea who they are.
00:23:41.920 That's fine.
00:23:42.760 So I'll explain.
00:23:43.540 ER is Einstein Rosen.
00:23:44.880 So Einstein Rosen bridge, AKA a wormhole equals the idea of Einstein Poldosky Rosen, which
00:23:50.540 is quantum mechanics, which is quantum entanglement, like you just mentioned.
00:23:53.700 And their concept is that they are essentially the same things, but on different scales.
00:23:57.300 Is that that same quantum entanglement that we can, even last week, I think they teleported
00:24:01.340 a picture, a full picture without sending the data.
00:24:04.340 Now, if you just scale that up, now it's the same idea as a wormhole where you have this
00:24:07.700 connection that we can't see.
00:24:09.300 And if you were to say the same way you said on like extra dimensions, say that, okay,
00:24:13.320 what we're looking at here, our reality is a projection onto like a matrix, so to speak.
00:24:18.700 Now you have that extra dimension that you need.
00:24:20.440 And what we need to do is just be able to rip through that.
00:24:22.400 And the double slit experiment shows us that this is true, is that somehow when we observe
00:24:27.460 the act of shooting a photon through one of two slits, it breaks down the wave function
00:24:31.860 just by observing it changes as the experiment.
00:24:34.380 This means that somehow the universe is communicating on a level that we can't perceive.
00:24:38.440 I disagree with this.
00:24:39.580 I think people have taken the double slit experiment in the wrong direction, or I should say, at
00:24:44.040 least, at the very least, I'll respectfully say, calling it observation, I believe confuses
00:24:49.840 the average person into not understanding what is actually going on with wave function
00:24:54.760 collapse.
00:24:55.460 And you end up with this new age hippy dippy like, I can simply will things or manifest
00:25:00.140 things into existence.
00:25:00.840 Yeah, because then you take it from a physics to a metaphysical perspective.
00:25:03.940 And then it, yeah, I know, I see what you're saying 100%.
00:25:06.020 Yeah, because I mean, the double slit stuff was super viral in the 2000s with like the documentary
00:25:11.900 what the bleep do we know?
00:25:13.300 And so I end up, I actually, a friend of mine, his dad's a physicist.
00:25:17.780 I knew a couple of, you know, physics PhD students or candidates or whatever.
00:25:21.040 And they just basically said, don't call it observation, call it measurement.
00:25:24.840 And then it completely redefines what these hippies are saying.
00:25:28.720 The act of measuring alters wave function.
00:25:31.500 And then you're like, oh, well, what does that really mean then?
00:25:34.800 Exactly.
00:25:35.340 It speaks to this notion of as well of super positioning, also like the concept of, you know, stack layers
00:25:40.380 that you were speaking to before, where it's there, but it's also not.
00:25:43.980 And so this speaks to also the non-linearity of time, right?
00:25:46.860 And so what gets interesting is that when you start to induce these effects, you start
00:25:51.180 to realize that you could very likely emit miniature forms of what we could call gravitons.
00:25:56.320 And that would enable FTL communication, for example.
00:25:58.900 And that connection with the entanglement factor is very inherent, but it's very difficult
00:26:06.580 to measure.
00:26:07.540 Are gravitons real?
00:26:08.780 They're hypothetical, huh?
00:26:09.500 And publicly hypothetical, in my opinion, and I don't expect anyone to blindly believe
00:26:14.000 me unless they've seen things in the lab themselves.
00:26:16.160 I think they are, but that's just my take.
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00:27:46.920 That's a great place to transition to why we're talking about all this, right?
00:27:49.900 Right.
00:27:50.220 But before aliens in Miami.
00:27:51.880 But yes, before we do that, and Tim's talking about advanced, obviously we're talking about
00:27:55.440 advanced technology stuff and you could talk about the Philadelphia experiment.
00:27:58.440 Yes.
00:27:58.940 Yeah.
00:28:00.020 That's the thing.
00:28:00.940 But Montauk.
00:28:02.040 Yeah.
00:28:02.300 Before all that though, the thing that one of the most alarming things out of this that
00:28:05.420 I think everyone can agree on is that there's the, what is it?
00:28:08.720 The global infrared system of Lockheed Martin satellites mapping the entire planet all the time
00:28:15.500 right now, which is why I think we could transition into the satellite stuff with you and why we're
00:28:20.580 talking about space-time continuing.
00:28:22.280 Absolutely.
00:28:22.580 So first thing I want to say on it is that a plane can't crash into the ocean without
00:28:26.020 leaving a debris field.
00:28:26.940 Certainly not a 777, which is a gigantic airplane.
00:28:30.480 Yeah, it's huge.
00:28:30.860 So part of the reason why this narrative that's out there, this plane crashed into the South
00:28:34.580 Indian Ocean is, well, we never saw anything.
00:28:36.440 To the point of the satellites is we've had satellites everywhere.
00:28:39.000 Global persistent surveillance, infrared surveillance.
00:28:42.100 Just think about what those words mean.
00:28:43.800 If you look up Sibbers on Google, the first or second hit in the video section will be literal
00:28:49.940 Lockheed Martin scanning the whole world all the time in infrared surveillance.
00:28:53.740 How do we not see the debris field?
00:28:55.300 One of the most terrifying images when you see that, if you're talking about the one
00:28:58.880 with like the globe and the mapping it, and isn't there like a, what's their slogan?
00:29:02.940 It's like, we never forget who we're working for.
00:29:05.260 Hail Hydra.
00:29:06.140 Come on now.
00:29:06.960 Come on now.
00:29:07.620 And those are just the things that they publicly discuss.
00:29:09.960 Is there a video of it or something?
00:29:11.720 Is it on Lockheed Martin website?
00:29:13.100 Yeah, just go to Google Sibbers and hit video on it.
00:29:15.320 How do you find it?
00:29:16.020 What is it?
00:29:16.180 S-B-I-R-S, space-based infrared system.
00:29:19.640 Yeah, it's like a CG model of the Earth being molested by satellites.
00:29:24.300 I never thought we would even find something like this.
00:29:26.060 This is part of why the investigation is just so incredible, even to me who's investigating
00:29:30.300 it.
00:29:30.600 It's like, okay, at first we're just starting with some videos and we're like, oh, this
00:29:33.360 is pretty amazing.
00:29:34.700 And then we're like, okay, wow, look at what our satellite capabilities are.
00:29:38.620 Right.
00:29:38.920 You know, we find all the satellite capabilities are beyond what anybody is even aware of.
00:29:42.660 And these are some of the most closely guarded secrets in the entire United States.
00:29:46.520 Like people that steal satellite images, they get charged with life in prison or the death
00:29:51.720 penalty.
00:29:52.300 That's how serious these types of things are.
00:29:54.540 There was actually an article in the New York Times in September where a contractor
00:29:58.440 stole satellite images from Africa, I believe, or of Africa, and they were actually facing
00:30:03.380 the death penalty.
00:30:04.260 Whoa.
00:30:04.740 That's how serious this is.
00:30:05.460 What country?
00:30:06.940 They were a contractor with the United States and they were like just taking images from
00:30:10.640 wherever.
00:30:11.680 So that's how sensitive this stuff is.
00:30:13.700 You can get screwed back.
00:30:14.840 Is that the link case?
00:30:15.820 But how could the U, this can't be public in the United States that gives them the death
00:30:18.820 penalty for, for...
00:30:20.260 You should check it out.
00:30:21.080 It's pretty wild.
00:30:22.140 If you Google that New York Times contractor satellite imagery, I think you'll find out.
00:30:26.400 Yeah.
00:30:26.900 They can face the death penalty for it.
00:30:28.340 Like this is the stuff that they really protect.
00:30:30.100 That's why when Trump back in 2019 posted that Iranian missile satellite picture, which
00:30:36.200 was of USA 224, another spy satellite sent up in 2011.
00:30:40.140 Yeah, it carries the death penalty.
00:30:42.920 And so this is, he was a U.S. citizen, a naturalized U.S. citizen of Ethiopian descent
00:30:48.180 in Silver Spring, Maryland.
00:30:49.200 Wow, that's really close to you.
00:30:50.380 Pretty wild.
00:30:51.040 It's super close.
00:30:52.140 Two cards, he was charged with two counts of espionage, willful retention of national
00:30:56.600 defense information.
00:30:57.820 The espionage charges carry a potential death sentence.
00:31:00.580 Crazy, right?
00:31:01.380 And up to life in prison.
00:31:02.560 So this is all this stuff we're uncovering, this cyber system.
00:31:04.940 We're uncovering how serious it is.
00:31:06.740 And it goes along with what we're seeing here, because if we are looking at some type
00:31:10.880 of satellite imagery on this video, which we actually now think this might be the sentient
00:31:14.600 program.
00:31:15.200 This is this advanced AI that was declassified in like 2012.
00:31:19.120 NRO, right?
00:31:19.540 Yeah, National Reconnaissance Office is what that stands for.
00:31:22.540 And there's also the National Geospace Agency, the NGA.
00:31:25.820 I never thought I'd learn this much about satellites, but we don't sit here and-
00:31:28.860 They called it sentient?
00:31:30.300 Yeah.
00:31:30.800 It's not like we're just sitting here looking through satellites while they're going down anymore.
00:31:34.040 Now we have a computer program that's pulling data from everywhere.
00:31:36.580 We're just like that Sibris video, right?
00:31:38.520 They're pulling this data and they're building up like a Google video Earth playback for the
00:31:42.400 military where you can track objects.
00:31:44.280 It turns out sentient actually can track airplanes.
00:31:46.020 They think it can track UFOs as well.
00:31:48.020 Dude, I wake up in the morning and I open my phone and I'm scrolling through it and I
00:31:54.080 saw a post from Stable Diffusion, the Stable Diffusion community.
00:31:57.980 Yeah.
00:31:59.920 It's over, man.
00:32:01.020 Yeah.
00:32:01.480 Let me just let everybody, I'm going to start by saying that as broad and as vague as
00:32:04.760 possible, it's over, man.
00:32:05.580 It was an image and I don't know if it's real or fake or whatever's going on and that's
00:32:11.520 the challenge.
00:32:12.340 It was a picture of a woman holding up a piece of paper that said R slash Stable Diffusion
00:32:16.320 and these are supposed to be the verification images that you post say like, hey, this is
00:32:20.280 who I am and I'm going to do like an Ask Me Anything on Reddit and they made one and as
00:32:24.780 soon as I saw it, I'm like, it kind of looks like AI, like what is this?
00:32:27.260 And then I looked it up and it's, it's an AI generated image, but it's damn near perfect
00:32:32.680 and they're getting text done properly.
00:32:34.800 And the fact that I had to question whether it was real and try and research it, I was
00:32:37.960 like, we're screwed.
00:32:38.680 Welcome to post-reality.
00:32:40.040 But we're talking about like sentient intelligence and intelligence analysis system.
00:32:46.240 I pulled it up and what's going on with this, the point at which the AI systems take control
00:32:52.780 are going to happen before anyone even knows it happens and then we are all going to be
00:32:56.660 slaves to it and there's nothing you can do to stop it.
00:32:59.120 Didn't the Pentagon just say-
00:33:00.220 You think it already did?
00:33:01.140 Maybe.
00:33:01.320 I think I agree with you.
00:33:02.960 That's what scares me more than anything, more than the videos, more than teleporting
00:33:05.800 to 777 is that the AI might've already won.
00:33:08.700 Like if this was a Terminator scenario, they're not dropping nukes, they don't even need to.
00:33:11.940 One of my biggest concerns is that they have tech like what you have on this desk right
00:33:15.220 here, except much like with the UFO there, except much larger and much more significant
00:33:19.260 that hasn't been, yeah.
00:33:21.040 A long time ago, 10 years ago, I was talking with my friends, you know, apparently they
00:33:25.440 need to smoke weed to have these kinds of conversations.
00:33:27.240 I don't.
00:33:28.320 And, you know, they're talking about Terminator scenarios and AI and I was like, I don't think
00:33:33.300 that'll ever happen where the machines rise up and try and kill people because that would
00:33:38.140 create unnecessary resistance.
00:33:39.540 Exactly.
00:33:39.880 The AI can use humans and their tiny little fingers to mine cobalt and stuff.
00:33:44.460 So what's more likely to happen is the AI will make you as fat and as happy as possible
00:33:48.400 to distract you and give you everything you could ever desire and then control everyone
00:33:52.440 else to mine the cobalt for them.
00:33:54.380 I'm like, if a bunch of machines were trying to create some kind of physical manifestation,
00:33:58.340 the sentient mind of the AI can exist in a computer network or the internet, but how does
00:34:04.120 it interact with the real world?
00:34:06.100 Right.
00:34:06.380 It will create economic factors that humans will have to engage in, in the physical world
00:34:11.640 to like mine cobalt and use their tiny little digits to, to manufacture things for them.
00:34:16.600 But what about the people who won't do that?
00:34:18.620 You give them video games, you're going to hook their brains up and give them everything
00:34:21.580 they want.
00:34:22.320 And now what are we looking at?
00:34:23.760 The VR neural link, the potential reality where you just plug your brain in and live in
00:34:28.600 the pod and eat the bugs?
00:34:29.560 Well, I've read reports where it takes apparently only two generations, give or take, to wipe
00:34:34.000 the memory of a given mass populace.
00:34:36.040 And so when you think about that implemented with the AI and what you just said, it becomes
00:34:40.040 scary because it makes you wonder, like a lot of people these days tend to think of our
00:34:43.580 history as not stemming past World War II.
00:34:45.980 And so it starts and you think that it's only been 70, 80 years, right?
00:34:48.860 Which is very small in the timeline of our history.
00:34:51.980 And so if you can combine that form of memory, wipe in a certain way, I say that carefully
00:34:57.100 with AI, it gets a little frightening.
00:34:59.580 I don't think like the robots are going to rise up per se.
00:35:02.000 They're going to destroy from the inside out.
00:35:03.600 Right.
00:35:03.760 That's what I mean by in a subtle manner.
00:35:05.200 Yeah.
00:35:05.400 But they're also going to destroy you from above too.
00:35:07.420 Like during Thanksgiving, the Pentagon put out that report saying they're giving AI the
00:35:11.660 ability to choose when to kill or not.
00:35:14.360 Well, that was like, didn't they kill an Air Force pilot?
00:35:17.080 I believe.
00:35:17.580 I'm not sure.
00:35:17.900 No, there was that a training scenario, but it was greatly exaggerated.
00:35:20.480 Gotcha.
00:35:20.840 And then like, because sensationalism, but let's just clarify, you are correct in that
00:35:24.980 they will, it will destroy humanity, but that's a figurative destruction to the AI.
00:35:29.780 It will radically transform and enslave humanity.
00:35:32.220 And we will be completely oblivious.
00:35:34.120 Right.
00:35:34.460 AI is a new colonizer.
00:35:35.820 And imagine too, instead of just even using us to mine, what if it can just mine Bitcoins
00:35:39.240 or whatever on itself and just put a virus on your computer?
00:35:41.960 Maybe it's mine on your laptops right now.
00:35:43.640 Right.
00:35:43.880 And it's just producing the money that it needs like that age of Ultron movie where it can
00:35:47.840 then just reproduce itself.
00:35:48.900 Right.
00:35:49.180 So not to get too off topic, but that's definitely the thing that I'm more scared of than anything
00:35:52.780 else, honestly.
00:35:53.460 Like that's what I'm saying about the satellite stuff with the global infrared persistent
00:35:56.400 system, however you say it.
00:35:57.320 It's terrifying.
00:35:58.140 It's like, it's like a false manufactured God, like circling the planet on you at all
00:36:03.880 times.
00:36:04.200 And like, it could, it could be filming us or filming us, it's photographing us all the
00:36:09.080 time.
00:36:09.340 So it could play back everything.
00:36:10.520 It's like, it's an objective false God, you know, Lockheed Martin throughout.
00:36:14.840 I don't, I don't mean to fear monger here, but there's been scenarios, for example, where
00:36:18.120 you in an asymmetrical capacity, you wouldn't even need to invade a country in order to control
00:36:22.300 it.
00:36:22.460 Right.
00:36:22.660 So for example, you put a, the shell of a nuclear warhead in a populated city, you then
00:36:27.100 induce an EMP pulse, not even a nuclear explosion.
00:36:30.080 But then what you do is you get to spread it on Tik TOK all over the place that it was
00:36:33.760 a nuke.
00:36:34.080 Who's going to know the difference?
00:36:35.060 Well, and everyone freaks out, right?
00:36:36.600 Uh, the first thing I'll say is war is no longer about guns and bullets.
00:36:41.820 Right.
00:36:42.680 Right.
00:36:43.220 Uh, I tweeted this, make a social media app, run ads to attract teen users, give those users
00:36:51.200 fake views and fake followers.
00:36:53.000 So they get really excited and then begin recruiting for you by bragging about how many followers
00:36:56.920 they have.
00:36:57.440 Right.
00:36:57.920 Then start implementing algorithms where that have insanity, insane algorithms that promote
00:37:03.340 insane content.
00:37:04.060 So these young people are, are forced if they want to continue pursuing the, the, the, the,
00:37:09.060 the dopamine hit of top views, they have to adhere to insane standards, like perhaps surgically
00:37:15.040 altering their bodies in strange ways to get views.
00:37:17.520 Right.
00:37:18.120 And then what happens is you ended up with a plagued generation desperate for the attention
00:37:22.000 of this machine.
00:37:23.480 That's already happening.
00:37:24.820 But the other, the other thing I'll point out is this was maybe like 10 years ago and
00:37:29.640 it's not the first time something like this has happened.
00:37:31.120 It's not the last.
00:37:31.660 And it may be happening now where people went on Twitter back when it was Twitter and started
00:37:37.020 posting random photos from the internet of military vehicles, police cordons and things
00:37:42.260 like this.
00:37:42.960 And then posting about some fictional city in Oklahoma saying, Whoa, what's going on in
00:37:47.460 insert city, Oklahoma.
00:37:48.340 And the people who are in on the joke kept adding to it.
00:37:52.340 And the people who weren't were being slammed with military trucks, videos of, of AP of tanks
00:37:58.180 being moved on trains of cops, screaming at people, get back, get back.
00:38:01.840 And they, everyone kept saying it was something happening in this one town.
00:38:05.120 And there's like old people being like, well, what's happening here?
00:38:08.380 And all the young people are just like, find a picture of a cop, post it and say, it's
00:38:12.140 the town, no matter where it's from and make people believe it.
00:38:15.240 Now you have what may be something similar right now, trending on X aliens in Miami.
00:38:20.560 And it's going viral like crazy.
00:38:22.540 And it may just very well be some dude, some morbidly obese guy in his basement, eating
00:38:28.300 Cheetos, saw a video of cops was like, aliens enter.
00:38:32.160 And then someone else saw this and says, I wish this were true and then blasted off.
00:38:36.680 And now the humans who want to believe 10 foot tall shadow beings were being shot at Miami
00:38:42.900 have created this idea and are spreading it everywhere.
00:38:46.300 It's hard though, right?
00:38:47.140 Cause we don't know what's real anymore.
00:38:48.420 I feel like we're in a post-truth world because of that, because of the disinformation that's
00:38:52.320 out there.
00:38:52.680 And just to bring it back to the plane real quick, cause I do want to talk about the shadow
00:38:56.260 aliens at some point, but, um, you know, this is what happens with mainstream media in
00:39:00.760 general too.
00:39:01.160 If you just repeat something often enough, like take that same concept you did now, put
00:39:05.000 it onto the mainstream media and just blast people with a message.
00:39:07.940 They're just going to believe it to be real.
00:39:09.500 And this is what happens with many conspiracies I've come to realize, especially with this
00:39:12.840 conspiracy.
00:39:13.340 They say, well, plane crashed in the South Indian Ocean, pilot suicide.
00:39:16.740 And despite the fact that's not even the official narrative, that's just a narrative that's
00:39:19.980 out there.
00:39:20.780 That's what people choose to believe.
00:39:22.120 And it takes us deprogramming.
00:39:23.760 We have to say, well, wait, there was no debris field out there.
00:39:26.380 We've looked along the seventh arc.
00:39:27.600 We didn't find any black boxes.
00:39:28.800 We should have seen those.
00:39:29.620 There's no acoustic detections.
00:39:31.460 We heard about this SOSA system with the Titan sub.
00:39:33.540 We were able to pinpoint a tiny sub imploding.
00:39:36.220 The Navy lies about it for five days.
00:39:38.340 And then they go, oh yeah, we knew exactly where it was.
00:39:40.080 And they go pick it up within a day or two.
00:39:41.480 Like, how are we not hearing a 777 crashing into the ocean?
00:39:44.760 There's also hydrophones in Western Australia and Diego Garcia military base.
00:39:48.680 They don't see it.
00:39:49.380 We've got four different countries' radars that should have seen this plane.
00:39:52.500 You've got Thailand, India, that has a base in the Andaman Sea.
00:39:56.200 Can I just mention very quickly, these aren't even the classified radars.
00:39:58.900 Yeah, these are just the ones we know about.
00:40:00.320 So then you've got Indonesia and Australia has a Jordan system, a very advanced radar
00:40:03.920 system.
00:40:04.560 There's also three advanced military bases.
00:40:06.600 You've got, well, we have the Cope Tiger exercises going on.
00:40:09.460 You've got Diego Garcia military base.
00:40:10.980 There's actually a signals intelligence base in the Cocoa Islands right there in the South
00:40:14.720 Indian Ocean, as well as the Pine Gap Australia base.
00:40:19.040 And these are all bases that have very advanced radar that are looking at stuff in space.
00:40:22.880 None of these detect the plane anywhere there.
00:40:25.540 It supposedly crashes along an active shipping route in the morning hours, and there's no
00:40:30.160 witnesses.
00:40:30.760 Nobody sees it.
00:40:31.960 We have 19 families of the passengers that sign a statement begging the government to look
00:40:37.620 into the fact that the cell phones are still ringing for up to four days afterwards.
00:40:40.840 That story is bizarre.
00:40:42.020 Yeah.
00:40:42.340 So it's like you take all this evidence.
00:40:43.300 Yeah, let's talk about these cell phones.
00:40:45.540 Are we able to listen to the voicemail?
00:40:47.920 Is it online?
00:40:49.140 No.
00:40:49.560 So there's no evidence of any of the voicemails that are out there.
00:40:51.980 CNN had people, experts come on and say, oh, well, it's possible for your phones to
00:40:55.500 ring if they're whatever.
00:40:56.820 But I checked and asked a bunch of people.
00:40:59.120 Phones are underwater.
00:41:00.140 They die very quickly.
00:41:01.080 If they're actually underwater, you don't receive a signal.
00:41:03.180 The cell phone towers don't even go out into the ocean.
00:41:05.040 All these articles are saying that someone uploaded a screen recording of the voicemail.
00:41:08.740 That was a different one.
00:41:09.340 So that's the one I think was 2018.
00:41:11.060 I believe where that came out.
00:41:12.060 Are you able to listen to this?
00:41:13.300 I have not, but we can listen to it if you guys want to.
00:41:15.380 Oh, I think you can.
00:41:16.660 Yeah, you're talking about the family.
00:41:17.740 No, the video is unavailable.
00:41:19.300 Yeah, what I'm talking about is the families were still like four days after the plane
00:41:22.140 went missing.
00:41:22.560 They were calling.
00:41:23.300 One of them showed it on TV where you can see the phone ringing.
00:41:26.240 And now I imagine if we turn your phone off or my phone off and call it, you're not
00:41:30.220 going to get any rings.
00:41:31.300 It's just going to go directly to voicemail.
00:41:32.440 I think what you're talking about is someone leaving voicemail saying they're on some island.
00:41:34.880 Maybe that's that story.
00:41:35.860 That's the crazy thing about this whole story is like there's so many narratives.
00:41:39.020 I was just listening to someone else say that they thought the pilot took out the co-pilot
00:41:43.360 and like this person.
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00:43:10.740 I don't know if he heard the transcripts or read the transcripts and that for him confirmed
00:43:18.580 that the pilot took out the co-pilot and then crashed it.
00:43:21.360 You know, it's just and then the debris that you're talking about is bizarre.
00:43:26.200 There's a lot of stuff that's bizarre with that.
00:43:28.360 And I think I've heard you talking about the, is it G.A. Telesis?
00:43:31.960 Yeah, G.A. Telesis actually purchased another plane in October of 2013.
00:43:36.460 They purchased an actual exact copy of MH370 from Malaysian Airlines and they scrapped it.
00:43:43.000 I mean, the plane has been produced in like early 2000s.
00:43:45.800 So this is a plane with only like 10 years of flight time.
00:43:48.060 How do you confirm that?
00:43:48.920 You can actually find there's a plane tracking or spot tracking website,
00:43:52.600 which actually shows you can see the histories of who's bought these planes.
00:43:55.740 Wow.
00:43:56.160 G.A. Telesis buys it.
00:43:57.000 G.A. Telesis was started by a 34-year-old military veteran.
00:44:00.060 All of a sudden, he's the owner of this multi-billion dollar plane purchase company, right?
00:44:04.080 Right.
00:44:04.640 And apparently has ties to intelligence, not speculative.
00:44:07.900 I just want to stay for the record.
00:44:09.120 Right.
00:44:09.380 But, you know, if you need another plane to be out there, well, there's for you.
00:44:13.580 Maybe they use that to, you know, practice this, whatever.
00:44:16.560 That's your theory is like in terms of the debris,
00:44:18.680 because a lot of people think of the debris as a major part of the story.
00:44:21.140 Because they're like, well, they found it.
00:44:21.940 They just didn't find all of it, right?
00:44:22.960 But what your theory is, correct me if I'm wrong, and I think it's interesting.
00:44:26.800 And G.A. Telesis, if true, purchase a plane that's just like this six months prior,
00:44:31.420 and then maybe put out debris where they said they would find it.
00:44:34.880 But the guy who found it is also interesting, right?
00:44:36.980 Like, what's that guy's deal?
00:44:38.520 And I don't believe anything that Jeff Wise puts out there.
00:44:41.600 He's the one that on the Netflix documentary said that this Blaine Gibson guy is some kind of Russian agent.
00:44:45.500 I looked at the documentary.
00:44:47.060 I'm going, this guy's not a – he's no agent out there.
00:44:49.360 I think he's just a normal guy.
00:44:51.760 Actually, the scenario that we've put forth with this fire and what we're going to call this macroscopic phase conjugation
00:44:56.500 or superluminal speed event, which you can call teleportation if you want, is actually wholly consistent with the debris that they found.
00:45:02.700 This can be debris from MH370.
00:45:04.900 Actually, parts of the debris they found that is consistent with the honeycomb pattern of a Boeing airplane
00:45:08.820 has burn marks on it and scorch marks on it.
00:45:10.940 That's in the official report.
00:45:12.240 So I don't know why people are ignoring the fact that we've got debris with burn marks on it when we're presenting this fire scenario.
00:45:18.100 They've actually only matched three pieces of debris to be confirmed to the plane.
00:45:23.260 If you look up on CNN, you'll find this picture of the plane.
00:45:25.960 It's three tiny little pieces.
00:45:27.860 This is not – it's like we found the whole plane or anything like that.
00:45:30.880 How did he find it?
00:45:31.300 Was he there already?
00:45:32.040 He was just on the Union Island on the coast.
00:45:33.840 He was living out.
00:45:34.420 Here's an expatriate, as we refer to them, and he starts finding some debris.
00:45:38.120 And this is over a year later.
00:45:39.960 So there's plenty of times, too, where if this plane went to, let's just call it, Diego Garcia,
00:45:45.040 that you could, you know, disassemble the plane, throw some debris in the water, debris washes up.
00:45:49.960 Now everybody says, oh, we found the plane, right?
00:45:52.680 But then you have to go back.
00:45:53.880 Well, how come we didn't find the huge miles-wide debris field that we should have found when it initially crashed, right?
00:45:58.680 Is it true that he was told by someone to go look at that place?
00:46:01.860 Is that in the documentary or is that something else?
00:46:03.640 I think that's just speculative.
00:46:05.100 I think that's a rumor.
00:46:06.140 I could be wrong on that.
00:46:07.260 I'm not sure.
00:46:07.940 Now, when I was on another podcast, they did kind of drill into that a lot where they thought it was very suspicious, this guy.
00:46:13.140 Because then he starts going to, like, South Africa and finds some more debris down there.
00:46:17.860 People have actually tried to evaluate the debris and the barnacles that are on it, saying that it's not consistent.
00:46:23.000 But for me, the tiny amounts of debris are consistent with the event that we've put forth.
00:46:28.080 Because if this plane just went somewhere else, that can certainly be part of it.
00:46:31.000 And if the plane was on fire, the pieces were falling off of it, then that explains the tiny amounts that they found.
00:46:36.460 I think that what the media does, kind of like the disinformation, is they throw out this flapper on it.
00:46:40.520 They take a picture of it from an angle where it makes it look like it's this huge, huge thing.
00:46:44.120 But then you look at it relative to the size of the 777, you're like, this is nothing, right?
00:46:48.080 And it's also a piece that could have just got ripped off.
00:46:50.260 One interesting aspect is that there is a unique serial plate on this flapper on it's missing, even though it can be bolted onto the flapper on.
00:46:57.980 So the media reports it as, oh, they match it with some serial numbers.
00:47:02.140 They didn't match it with a unique serial number for that particular piece.
00:47:05.780 They match it with a part number, which is not actually unique.
00:47:09.700 So it could be from that GA Telusis plane, or it could just be from MH370.
00:47:13.720 Either way, it doesn't prove the plane crashed, and it doesn't prove that the official narratives that are out there.
00:47:18.020 You know what's so bizarre also in that whole summer, or the spring into summer of 2014, is that what are the odds that another Malaysian flight would be blown up?
00:47:28.380 Another Boeing 777 would be blown up over Russia or Ukraine?
00:47:31.960 Ukraine, yeah.
00:47:33.180 Maybe they were getting rid of the evidence.
00:47:35.580 Some people argue that.
00:47:36.460 The problem is it's just too difficult, right?
00:47:38.320 Go ahead.
00:47:39.520 Yeah, sir.
00:47:40.360 No, go ahead.
00:47:40.860 If I can mention very quickly, on a much smaller scale, and again, I'm encouraging your audience to do their own research.
00:47:46.000 If one took an object of any type and put it inside of a Bose-Einstein condensate, a quantum condensate, practically it would be something like liquid helium.
00:47:54.480 And you were to possibly enable these effects on a much smaller scale.
00:47:57.920 In other words, make a Coca-Cola can disappear from this part of the table, reappear on that end, right?
00:48:03.140 Conceptually, we're talking about the same thing as FTL communication.
00:48:05.900 But the idea would be that every so often, there would be this sort of, we could say, residue or resonance of the actual material that's being teleported in that liquid that would stay behind occasionally, just based off of probability.
00:48:18.540 So you think that they teleported the plane?
00:48:20.460 In my opinion, it speaks to...
00:48:22.960 Why would they teleport the plane?
00:48:25.120 So I can jump in on that part, because I think that if what we have is a fire scenario, then this plane is doomed.
00:48:30.500 So as we talked about before, it doesn't land in Penang.
00:48:33.060 Now, we don't know exactly why, but that was their best hope for this plane.
00:48:36.160 Talking to pilots, after that scenario, you're basically looking for the least worst way for people to die.
00:48:41.340 If this plane lands in the ocean, even on a controlled descent, it's going to rip into pieces and everyone's going to be screwed.
00:48:46.920 If you look at the Ethiopian flight, they actually tried to land right next to the coast, and this plane rips up into a million pieces.
00:48:52.660 So at that point, this plane is doomed, and if we then move back to those 20 free-scale semiconductor scientists, we found a 2005 National Security Agency report that was about commercial emergence of superconductive microchips, room-temperature superconductive microchips.
00:49:08.100 Free-scale semiconductors is listed nine times in that report.
00:49:10.960 The report starts by saying that this technology could be available by 2010 or 2012, but only if the government intervenes and provides funding for it to happen.
00:49:18.880 So you could actually argue that 20 people is way too many people from one company to be on a plane.
00:49:23.100 My company doesn't allow us to have that many people.
00:49:25.420 You could destroy your company if something happens.
00:49:27.300 100%.
00:49:27.620 And that's pretty much what happened to free-scale.
00:49:28.940 They ended up being sold the very next year to NXPI.
00:49:31.900 And who was in charge of that?
00:49:33.340 Wait, wait, wait, so hold on.
00:49:34.980 What's this company?
00:49:36.080 Yeah, so free-scale semiconductors.
00:49:37.440 I like to call them free-scale superconductors because I think they're directly tied to the technology we see in the MH370 videos.
00:49:43.300 The idea very quickly is that superconductors would be able to enable, whether high temperature, low temp, or room temperature, would be able to enable, for example, mass reduction, levitation, and the instant takeoffs that people claim to see.
00:49:56.000 So let's slow down.
00:49:56.760 So free-scale semiconductors is a company, and they had employees.
00:50:01.120 They had 20 employees on this plane?
00:50:02.420 20 engineers.
00:50:03.280 The story was they were going to China to help improve the plants there.
00:50:07.120 And if this was a situation where this is an emergency event, now you're trying to potentially save these people.
00:50:12.500 They were also tied via RF power needs to U.S. aerospace and defense as well.
00:50:19.080 So you have several ties that says these people might be high-value intellectual property.
00:50:23.180 The only way in my mind that you're going to go to play your trump card, as I like to call it, which is break out this technology that you would otherwise never break out because you don't want people to know about it.
00:50:31.560 You've got that trump card.
00:50:32.940 You want to hang on to that for the last possible minute.
00:50:35.460 Is that you have people on there that scenarios are either you're preventing them from going to China because you don't want this technology to go there.
00:50:42.260 Maybe they're defecting or what have you.
00:50:44.180 The other scenario is maybe that they are directly tied to that technology.
00:50:46.840 You can't lose them.
00:50:47.500 You can't afford to lose them.
00:50:48.820 Wait, wait, wait.
00:50:49.460 Hold on.
00:50:49.780 Hold on.
00:50:50.500 Yeah.
00:50:51.120 So there's 16,000 employees, 16,800 employees in this company.
00:50:55.540 20 is not a large number relative to the size of this company.
00:51:00.520 But should we just make it a little crazier?
00:51:02.440 On September 15, 2006, Freescale agreed to accept a buyout in the sum of $17.6 billion by a consortium led by the Blackstone Group.
00:51:11.900 Share price of $13 at the July 2004 IPO had risen to $39.35 in the after hours trading, yada, yada.
00:51:18.560 A special shareholders meeting on November 13th to accept the buyout.
00:51:22.160 The purchase, which was disclosed December 1, 2006, is reportedly the largest private buyout of a technology company and one of the 10 largest buyouts of all time.
00:51:31.120 So wait a minute.
00:51:31.880 Yep.
00:51:32.540 Blackstone bought this company?
00:51:33.880 Yes.
00:51:34.260 Yep.
00:51:34.580 Now you're starting to get it.
00:51:35.440 So if I can mention very quickly, Tim, you had a couple years ago Steve Bannon on, and he had said something that stuck with me, which he said that when he was for a short period of time on the National Security Council, he felt that there was a very rotten element within the National Security Council that needed to be removed.
00:51:51.640 It's of my opinion that same rotten element would possibly be the, in a general way, the same individuals looking to cover these type of things up.
00:51:58.700 Because if room temperature superconductivity were to go public, it changes communication, transportation, and puts a lot of people's business interests that have been around for a while.
00:52:07.700 Kind of like carrying cancer.
00:52:08.720 What would it do to Big Pharma?
00:52:09.620 Precisely.
00:52:10.100 Yeah, exactly.
00:52:10.660 Exact same thing.
00:52:11.300 Yeah.
00:52:11.560 Wipe it all out.
00:52:11.820 I just want to make sure we're nailing this.
00:52:14.400 This is Reuters.
00:52:16.040 Employees of freescale semiconductor who are on Malaysian Airlines flight presumed to have crashed were doing sophisticated work at the U.S. chipmaker, a company spokesman said on Sunday.
00:52:24.040 This is Reuters.com.
00:52:25.080 Yep.
00:52:25.280 20 freescale employees among 239 people on flight MH370.
00:52:30.140 Is it simply possible?
00:52:32.500 Yeah, it's crazy.
00:52:33.000 This article's for my birthday, by the way, March 9th.
00:52:34.600 Is it simply possible that with this many employees of one company doing this high-level work, which Blackstone was involved in, that the plane was just destroyed by some kind of adversary?
00:52:46.700 And the reason why we don't know what happened is because they're desperately trying to cover it up?
00:52:49.480 It could have very well been an annihilation event, to be honest, as well, and that's why I'm not sticking entirely with the teleportation aspect.
00:52:55.600 But I'm not a betting man, but if I was, I would put a bit more money on a teleportation rather than an annihilation event.
00:53:01.860 But, of course, I wasn't there.
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00:54:35.580 And on this bet, yo, I'm betting on foreign adversary blew this plane up every single time.
00:54:43.640 A $10,000 bet wins you a hundred bucks.
00:54:45.440 I'd be like, well, I don't want to commit the $10,000 right now because I don't know if we'll ever find out what really happened.
00:54:51.380 Right.
00:54:51.520 But if for $10,000, I can win a hundred bucks and the argument is enemy blew it up, I take enemy blew it up.
00:54:56.600 I got a hundred bucks.
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00:54:58.140 No.
00:54:59.160 That's probably where you should maybe describe what you've been looking at.
00:55:02.100 Yeah.
00:55:02.200 The reason why I would go the other way with it is that if this plane really is doomed from the fire event, then it's really got to be a rescue motive.
00:55:08.080 Because all you have to do if you want this plane to disappear and these people to die is let it go in the ocean and don't do anything about it.
00:55:12.940 If you don't want recovery, then foreign adversary goes in, sweeps everything up, and then says, don't look at us.
00:55:18.540 Well, there have been articles that, and correct me if I'm wrong, but China has been working on laser technology that essentially would be able to heat something using cold fusion in a certain sense.
00:55:27.200 So annihilate an object or a person, and then they would just disappear with no heat dissipation whatsoever.
00:55:31.620 Space lasers.
00:55:32.300 Space lasers.
00:55:32.740 Essentially, right.
00:55:33.680 This is the headline I remember.
00:55:34.580 Exactly.
00:55:35.140 And this speaks to using, again, what we were talking about about an hour ago, using the vacuum or empty space, as we call it,
00:55:41.240 to sort of let the internal mass of the thing you just zapped away sort of dissipate into the...
00:55:46.680 But we don't need to go that far with it because we have a video from six years ago of the United States using an infrared laser to destroy a drone.
00:55:55.300 Here, we can just play the video for you guys.
00:55:58.200 This is just it.
00:55:59.520 They have gigantic infrared lasers on ships.
00:56:03.020 This has been around for a very, very long time, 2012.
00:56:06.120 Laser weapons system, directed energy weapons.
00:56:08.380 And they just point a very large laser, and the drone bursts into flames.
00:56:14.160 Check this out.
00:56:14.680 There's even...
00:56:15.260 There you go.
00:56:15.840 Mazers, which is the microwave version of that.
00:56:17.940 And then...
00:56:18.720 Yeah.
00:56:19.360 That's it.
00:56:20.020 Imagine what they have now.
00:56:21.240 Well, that's...
00:56:22.120 Yeah.
00:56:22.440 This is the...
00:56:23.020 So this is a long time ago that...
00:56:25.400 This is unclassified.
00:56:26.540 Right.
00:56:27.400 Exactly.
00:56:28.200 This is unclassified.
00:56:29.040 So people always talk about World War III and they say nuclear annihilation and mutually assured destruction.
00:56:33.820 And I'm like, could you imagine if after the...
00:56:36.880 After, like, could you imagine it's 1944 and everyone's like, we have to be very careful about the most powerful weapon imaginable, a machine gun.
00:56:45.640 Right.
00:56:45.740 And could you just imagine what would happen if the work is out of hand?
00:56:49.260 There's going to be machine gun fire on all the streets and then nukes dropped.
00:56:52.340 And they were like, oh, nobody knew what was being built.
00:56:55.140 It was compartmentalized.
00:56:56.080 Yep.
00:56:56.680 For people to be like, mutually assured destruction.
00:56:59.760 And I'm like, bro, you're talking about 80-year-old weapons.
00:57:02.400 Exactly.
00:57:02.720 It's been 80 years.
00:57:03.820 Exactly.
00:57:04.260 World War II, people talking about siege weapons and ballistas and stuff.
00:57:07.400 No, no, no, no.
00:57:07.860 Come on, bro.
00:57:08.480 There's a gentleman by the name of Bill Fogel, F-O-G-A-L.
00:57:12.440 He filed multiple patents, I think, in the 1980s for what he called the Fogel Transistor, which was essentially enabling faster than light information projection and communication.
00:57:21.880 So to add to your point, Tim, exactly.
00:57:24.480 And that was, I think, in the 80s?
00:57:26.320 And then later picked up by a larger company, I think, in the late 90s.
00:57:29.580 But yeah.
00:57:30.500 Do you guys know about the laser-induced plasma channel?
00:57:33.660 Absolutely.
00:57:34.280 Yeah, they abandoned it.
00:57:35.840 It's unfortunate, but it was impractical.
00:57:37.920 The simple story is they found a way to create a lightning gun, a cannon that can shoot you with a bolt of lightning.
00:57:45.300 And so it's actually quite simple.
00:57:46.840 It's really, really funny because I knew a guy who worked in security who was telling me about this in 2010 because he knew people who worked on it.
00:57:55.760 But it had been abandoned.
00:57:56.660 So he was like, yeah, here's what they do.
00:57:57.900 Electricity takes the path of least resistance.
00:58:01.340 So you supercharge one electrode and then it's going to just shoot to the ground.
00:58:04.720 What they would do is they would fire an infrared laser at extremely high power, which would ionize the air, creating a path that is easier for the energy to travel through than just hitting the ground.
00:58:15.260 And thus, they could point the laser-induced plasma channel at a car or a person.
00:58:20.360 And then within a split second, infrared laser superheats the air and the charge is amplified and then the electricity shoots straight across, hitting the target.
00:58:29.680 And wasn't it during COINTELPRO, they were talking about heart attack guns too?
00:58:33.320 That's 70s.
00:58:33.960 I mean, that's super easy.
00:58:35.140 Yeah, that stuff is pretty simple.
00:58:36.340 Yeah, I mean, there's crazy stuff like icicle delivery systems for poisons, tiny little pieces of ice that can stick into your skin, deliver a toxin, and then melt and dissolve and be gone.
00:58:46.240 And you can't even see where the puncture is?
00:58:48.120 Yep.
00:58:48.500 Oh, yeah.
00:58:49.440 Yep.
00:58:49.600 Yep.
00:58:50.300 Yeah, so when it comes to this technology, I think that early on when we looked at the MH370 videos, we had three different scenarios.
00:58:56.320 We thought, okay, maybe this is cloaking, right?
00:58:58.100 That would be the easiest one to sell to people for sure.
00:58:59.960 I wish it was cloaking.
00:59:00.940 But when we look at it, we see this smoke trail.
00:59:02.820 Maybe it's exhaust coming out of the back of the plane, but it just stops when the plane disappears, right?
00:59:07.280 So if it was cloaking, we'd still see this smoke trail going with no plane.
00:59:10.920 And the person who theoretically leaked these even scrolls over to the right in the satellite video to show us, like, there's no plane hiding over here.
00:59:16.920 And then early on, I thought it might be an annihilation event.
00:59:19.380 But we really need antimatter in order to make that happen.
00:59:21.900 Because otherwise, you know, just going back to energy equals mass times the speed of light squared, people have done the math on the mass of a 777.
00:59:28.800 This thing would have destroyed part of the planet if you had turned that into a nuclear bomb.
00:59:33.220 You know, unlike what we saw just there with the video of the laser hitting the plane, that plane's still on fire.
00:59:37.780 That drone is going to explode.
00:59:39.320 We would be able to do the calculations to determine that.
00:59:42.280 So unless we have some way to create antimatter, then we have to kind of at least give a low probability to this idea that it's an annihilation event.
00:59:49.560 And then really the only thing we're left with is, well, that mass and energy has to go somewhere else.
00:59:53.560 So, you know, I don't really like to call it teleportation anymore because it's not Star Trek teleportation.
00:59:57.820 We're not dematerializing something and rematerializing it somewhere else.
01:00:01.160 It's really a superluminal event.
01:00:03.080 This plane is moving faster than the speed of light, like quantum teleportation, to another location.
01:00:08.240 And you could argue it's going to another dimension.
01:00:10.440 You could argue that it's going to the future because actually since time dilation is real, when you travel the speed of light, you could show up.
01:00:17.020 You know, your frame of reference is different than the observer's.
01:00:19.460 How would this plane travel the speed of light?
01:00:21.300 Yeah, maybe you can describe that.
01:00:23.320 It comes down to mass reduction.
01:00:23.900 Because we're like, it's like a big leap from a battery started on fire and then the plane traveled the speed of light and vanished.
01:00:29.140 So if I can bring up very quickly, Li and Yang in 1957 won the Nobel Prize for the broken symmetry of opposite charges.
01:00:35.300 The idea is that essentially one using practical means cannot attain near light speeds.
01:00:40.460 But if there was a, how can I put it, a shortcut or if there was a way to break the symmetry of the local, what we could say, it's called space-time metric engineering.
01:00:48.600 If you can break the symmetry of the energy around an object, you can then, going back to that fishbowl example, you can then get outside of that fishbowl.
01:00:56.640 And therefore, that beam going through the fishbowl acting as the speed of light is no longer your limit of your speed of light, if that makes sense.
01:01:03.060 I think it'd be best if you could explain the images so then we could talk about this stuff for the audience to have a clear picture in their mind of like what you've been, what the two videos I believe you've been talking about and then, you know, how that plays out.
01:01:15.380 Yeah, and as a quick brief as well, I would say that it seems to come back to like the idea of the Alcaberry Drive, which is Star Trek warp travel, not Star Trek teleportation.
01:01:23.900 This idea that you can put an object in a bubble, right?
01:01:26.520 And if we put it in a bubble, but not a bubble in the water, but a bubble of space-time itself, now your mass and your inertia is going to be separate on the inside of the bubble compared to the outside.
01:01:36.100 So now all you have to do is not move the plane at superluminal speeds, but actually have the bubble move.
01:01:40.000 And when the bubble moves, now that you can achieve relativistic speeds that are beyond what we would be able to be able to do if we are just flying through space and then friction.
01:01:48.920 If I can give one more example, when you push a kid on a swing, for example, it's always been thought classically that once the kid gets off the swing, the swing stops, the object is still unresting.
01:01:57.140 But at the plank level or the nano level, the swing itself, the material of the seat is constantly resonating.
01:02:02.780 This is what the Germans called the Zitterbüegung, which translates loosely to sort of the jiggling or squiggling type of effect.
01:02:09.500 The idea is that if every single object that is physical has a squiggling set of, we could say, mass within it, and it has a certain frequency to it,
01:02:18.260 if your device can lock into the resonant frequency of that object, in this case the plane,
01:02:23.260 you'd be able to then manipulate, perturb its internal mass and therefore make it do exactly what we've seen,
01:02:28.840 whether it's annihilate or, again, teleport or enable FTL communication, for example.
01:02:34.000 And then how does that relate to the images?
01:02:37.180 Yeah, so with respect to the images...
01:02:39.120 That would be, sorry, in the laboratory on a smaller scale, one would see very similar effects to what was seen in that footage in the images of the plane there.
01:02:46.440 Right.
01:02:46.780 Yeah.
01:02:47.280 Yeah, so what's really required is some type of inertial mass reduction effect.
01:02:50.360 You have to reduce the mass of the plane itself.
01:02:52.680 Now, when we see the videos, the first thing we see are these orbs that show up.
01:02:55.900 How do I find this video?
01:02:57.160 Sure, you can go to my YouTube if you want.
01:02:59.320 The idea is, while you're looking it up, is, if I can bring it up quickly, to curve space and time.
01:03:04.440 Okay, I actually got one of your tweets.
01:03:06.440 Yeah, and you can find it in there as well.
01:03:08.080 There's two we should look at.
01:03:09.120 Where the wave functions are becoming aligned with one another.
01:03:12.040 The idea here is that ultimately we see the orbs begin to curve and circulate around the plane itself.
01:03:16.700 So let's...
01:03:18.040 If you go to my YouTube, I have both the videos that are there.
01:03:20.640 Is there YouTube on your X account?
01:03:22.400 No, but it's also...
01:03:24.000 Oh, is it?
01:03:24.500 Yeah, you're right.
01:03:25.140 It is.
01:03:25.400 And which one is it?
01:03:27.080 So this MH370 stereoscopic satellite video in the bottom right down there.
01:03:32.380 That one.
01:03:32.940 This one?
01:03:33.400 You can start with that one if we want.
01:03:34.520 Now, this is what they call the satellite video that's out there.
01:03:37.160 And it's not...
01:03:37.820 For those watching, it's not a video.
01:03:39.620 It's a compilation of images that the satellite took, right?
01:03:42.040 Yeah.
01:03:42.320 I mean, that's what...
01:03:42.900 Yeah, what video is, right?
01:03:44.000 And at the end of the day is...
01:03:45.180 But it's what a video is.
01:03:46.160 But it snapshots, stills.
01:03:49.220 Well, it's compiled.
01:03:50.240 We just got that low frame video.
01:03:51.540 So we see it's six frames per second.
01:03:53.060 You can see why the plane jerks a little bit.
01:03:54.720 But this mouse that we see come on the screen, this black mouse, this black mouse is actually 24 frames per second.
01:03:59.800 So early on, people were able to determine that this is consistent with a Citrix session.
01:04:03.580 So people that work at large companies will know you log into the Citrix session.
01:04:06.700 Let's slow down.
01:04:07.560 We're watching the video.
01:04:08.540 Yeah.
01:04:08.820 We see these things circling the plane.
01:04:10.760 Yeah.
01:04:11.040 And so these things circling the plane are these orbs.
01:04:13.300 And when we look at it in the second video, we can tell there's a non-radiating barrier around them.
01:04:16.560 So we're not looking at a metal sphere of some sort.
01:04:18.620 We're looking at a barrier like a bubble that's pulling these orbs out of space-time.
01:04:23.220 And they're mapping the plane.
01:04:24.220 If I can mention very quickly, that quantum condensate that I brought up earlier, it would be the same thing that we're seeing here with the orbs.
01:04:30.900 They would be of the same...
01:04:33.360 Structure.
01:04:34.300 So people...
01:04:34.800 So you're saying those are like liquid helium balls that are flying around?
01:04:37.500 Possibly.
01:04:38.020 They could be dielectric spheres with emitting liquid helium around it, or it could be entirely a full-on like Bose-Einstein condensate.
01:04:45.600 All right.
01:04:45.800 Now, you were saying it was Citrix?
01:04:47.220 So the Citrix session is when you log into a database.
01:04:49.500 So we see that the mouse is at 24 frames per second, but the background is 6 frames per second.
01:04:54.560 So this is consistent with somebody actually logging into the SPY satellite database and doing a recording.
01:04:59.000 Now, like we talked about before, this doesn't have to be in real time.
01:05:01.760 They could have pulled this up later on.
01:05:03.040 Disappears.
01:05:04.040 And this is where the plane disappears.
01:05:05.400 So the orbs actually change orientation.
01:05:07.480 At first, they're circling around the plane in a sphere, which seems like they're mapping it.
01:05:12.320 We don't know the exact purpose, but it seems like there's clear purpose there.
01:05:15.160 And they're also in a 120-degree zero-point sinusoidal pattern, which is apparently some type of electrical engineering system that's very common.
01:05:24.820 And I think that people have speculated it's a 440-volt system.
01:05:28.280 I have a substantially simpler explanation for this.
01:05:31.980 Sure.
01:05:32.240 Somebody made it in Unreal Engine in an hour and then posted it on the internet.
01:05:35.740 You know what?
01:05:37.100 I'm not going to go ahead and argue or kind of, you know, come to any necessary conclusion on that.
01:05:42.500 My mindset is that this is a real video.
01:05:44.940 But if people want to believe it's fake, it's too hard to believe.
01:05:47.220 Can you give us like your best defense of why you think it's a real video?
01:05:49.700 Yeah.
01:05:49.740 So first of all, we had $150,000 bounty out there for anyone to come forward to give us proof that they made it.
01:05:55.880 Now, if you made these videos, there's not a single discrepancy on either of the two videos in a single frame.
01:06:01.160 If they did, they're a master VFX artist.
01:06:03.340 They didn't make any mistakes.
01:06:04.560 I could make this in a couple hours.
01:06:05.520 I have seen a few people on YouTube.
01:06:06.780 I can make this in a couple hours.
01:06:08.100 I've seen a few people on YouTube recreate it.
01:06:09.960 I used to do flash animation when I was 14, so 20-some-odd years ago.
01:06:15.180 And we do video game dev.
01:06:18.840 I used to make video games.
01:06:19.660 I used to program video games.
01:06:20.520 I used to use Flash and Multimedia Fusion.
01:06:23.460 Yeah, I could make that in Unreal Engine in a couple hours.
01:06:25.840 I would download pre-existing assets that already exist for $20.
01:06:29.020 Then I would just create a motion animation.
01:06:32.280 I could easily program three white balls to spin around it.
01:06:35.660 That's ridiculously rudimentary.
01:06:37.400 Then after I render it, I would set a low frame rate.
01:06:42.840 I would throw it into Adobe, set a low frame rate.
01:06:46.140 Then I would record a weird-looking video.
01:06:49.100 So there's a disparity between the mouse.
01:06:51.300 And then I'd upload it.
01:06:52.220 And then you ask, why wouldn't someone accept $150,000?
01:06:54.960 I'm rich.
01:06:55.640 I don't need your money.
01:06:56.780 So there's a lot of people who might be bored and think it's hilarious.
01:06:59.700 And they're like, your money means nothing to them.
01:07:01.720 It's a very fair point.
01:07:02.700 I mean, and also, just sorry.
01:07:04.400 Like, some 20-year-old kid who's a Bitcoin millionaire is thinking, like, I am bored and have nothing to do.
01:07:11.160 He makes this, posts it, and then you're like, I'll give you $150,000.
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01:08:44.280 Certainly could be a possible explanation.
01:08:46.520 So I'll just run through the fake video requirements and then you can jump in with the science side of it,
01:08:50.340 which I think you want to do.
01:08:51.400 So, I mean, first of all, we have the bounty.
01:08:53.360 You have between four and 72 days to create this back in 2014 because we've been able to show that
01:08:57.980 these archive videos are going out there from, it says received March 12th, 2014, which is four days after the event.
01:09:04.580 It says uploaded May 19th, 2014.
01:09:07.720 There's no reference copy to copy it from.
01:09:09.540 So it's one thing where anyone can potentially recreate the Mona Lisa.
01:09:11.980 But if you're doing it from scratch, it's a completely different story.
01:09:15.380 You'd have to be aware of the fire scenario since we know that we can see the smoke coming out of the back of the plane
01:09:19.720 where the plane is too low for contrails.
01:09:22.860 You'd have to know how to create the volumetric clouds that we see in both videos as well,
01:09:26.320 how to accurately animate the cameras, how these clouds form at low altitudes.
01:09:30.680 You'd have to have the accurate lighting when the zap goes off.
01:09:33.160 It actually accurately lights the clouds in the foreground and in the background as well.
01:09:36.980 You'd have to be able to recreate what MH370 looks like exactly.
01:09:40.540 The turn radius of the Boeing 7-7 wall and descent is actually maxing out the capabilities.
01:09:45.180 There was actually somebody who posted on social media claiming to be a VFX expert on Top Gun Maverick.
01:09:50.260 They said this would be some of the hardest part to recreate.
01:09:52.400 They actually had to fake some of that actually in the Top Gun Maverick movie.
01:09:55.860 Of this video of the little white plane?
01:09:57.500 Did you verify that?
01:09:58.220 There's actually two videos.
01:09:59.120 Who's the Top Gun guy?
01:10:00.380 Yeah, so I talked to them.
01:10:01.140 They didn't want to go on the record, unfortunately, so I'll have to stay unverified for now.
01:10:05.280 But I think that you would be able to confirm whether or not having a plane realistically move in a video like this
01:10:11.040 would be a hard thing to do.
01:10:12.280 It seems to make sense.
01:10:13.260 I totally disagree.
01:10:15.300 You said earlier that it could also be exhaust.
01:10:16.520 I'm going to hit up my VFX.
01:10:17.780 Everybody works for a big VFX company.
01:10:20.000 I'll pay them.
01:10:20.940 Yeah, we also got Marvel VFX expert Jeffrey Ford to go on the record and say that
01:10:24.460 just to research the information about the classified information
01:10:28.140 and what these should look like, the drone, et cetera.
01:10:30.200 That would take several months to do as well.
01:10:32.100 And he was somebody that's worked on Endgame, Spider-Man No Way Home, Captain America, Civil War.
01:10:38.300 I have seen a few videos on YouTube of guys doing these videos and recreating it.
01:10:42.200 I don't know.
01:10:42.780 Again, like...
01:10:43.880 I mean, look, I just pulled up Unreal Marketplace and searched for clouds.
01:10:47.580 Like...
01:10:47.980 Yeah, yeah.
01:10:48.700 It's really easy to do this stuff.
01:10:50.740 Let's do Jet.
01:10:52.020 All I was going to say is that if somebody faked it, in my...
01:10:54.700 Again, in my opinion, they did a very good job.
01:10:56.820 Guys, the Unreal Market has no 777, but I'll try and find one.
01:11:00.160 I'll try and find one.
01:11:02.640 No, and a lot of people have.
01:11:03.760 What are the other requirements?
01:11:04.000 There's been a couple...
01:11:04.840 Yeah, there's some more requirements too.
01:11:05.920 So you have to know about the Citrix session, of course, as well, related to that.
01:11:09.140 The frame rate difference related to that.
01:11:11.000 The type of mouse they use, there's actually an acceleration when they change the perspective.
01:11:14.560 The perspective changes eight times.
01:11:16.100 That's different than what we see from the mouse moving.
01:11:18.060 So either there's two analogs or like a ball in the middle, or if you guys have laptops,
01:11:22.100 a little button in the middle of that as well.
01:11:24.840 You'd have to know what the false color IR looks like because we actually think we're
01:11:27.700 looking at nighttime here.
01:11:28.540 And actually, just recently, we've been able to show there's videos where you can make
01:11:31.400 nighttime look exactly like daytime as well that are out there.
01:11:35.400 You'd have to be able to animate the orbs correctly.
01:11:37.760 Now, when we look at the orbs in the second video, we've seen nothing like this in UFOlogy
01:11:42.020 or anywhere else.
01:11:42.580 They seem to have a gravity engine forward-facing on them, as well as a heat signature in them
01:11:46.580 that's consistent with a monopole.
01:11:47.700 Is that sort of what Bob Lazar talks about with the gravitational engine?
01:11:51.260 It's similar, but it's like, it's our version of it.
01:11:53.340 This is why I don't think we're looking at aliens.
01:11:54.920 This is why I think we're looking at like Lockheed Martin technology.
01:11:57.040 Pretty certain.
01:11:57.680 Well, I think Bob Lazar was maybe looking at stuff we were making.
01:12:00.920 Yeah, it could be.
01:12:01.880 I think Bob Lazar was lying.
01:12:03.240 He could be.
01:12:03.900 There's a lot of disagreements on it.
01:12:06.440 And what I'd say, too, is that everything out there has been debunked by someone or
01:12:09.480 other, right?
01:12:09.920 And that's why, you know, you kind of have to come to your own conclusions of the evidence.
01:12:12.960 I'm not telling anybody what to believe or what to think.
01:12:14.880 I'm just saying, here's the evidence.
01:12:16.380 You come to your own conclusions.
01:12:18.220 So some of the other details that are really difficult, including that particle engine
01:12:21.700 from the orbs, is how to animate the final frames.
01:12:24.340 And the final frames, you actually see, just recently we've noticed that the orbs change
01:12:28.280 orientation right before they converge on the plane.
01:12:30.880 And now when they converge, this is like they're inducing that singularity that we see, which
01:12:34.620 is causing this quantum entanglement effect that we believe.
01:12:38.200 This is why we actually think there might be a fourth orb.
01:12:40.020 Dave Rossi is actually the one that came up with this theory as well, where there's a
01:12:43.080 fourth orb.
01:12:43.620 And what's happening is like a slingshot effect where you put all the rubber band apart.
01:12:46.380 And then when you click the singularity, poof, all of a sudden, everything appears over
01:12:49.620 here.
01:12:50.060 Let's just say the video is real.
01:12:52.400 What makes you think the orbs in the portal or whatever you want to call it are connected?
01:12:55.940 What if they're two separate events?
01:12:57.360 Like I think of stories of like people on military bases saying a UFO, they saw UFOs
01:13:02.820 as a missile was about to be launched or something.
01:13:04.440 So maybe if you want to say this is real, maybe they appeared knowing something was going to
01:13:09.160 happen.
01:13:09.580 You know, like what makes you so confident that the orbs in the wormhole, you're talking
01:13:12.800 about the condensation, I think, like the bulk modular effect stuff.
01:13:15.320 Forgive me if this is overly scientific, but it's-
01:13:17.420 Yeah, you have to break it down.
01:13:18.240 Yeah, sure, sure.
01:13:18.800 Instead of using academic words.
01:13:20.640 I'll say the first sentence scientifically, and then I'll break it down.
01:13:24.140 And essentially, it speaks to this higher symmetry electromagnetic, what's called a gauge
01:13:29.680 invariant, generally covariant quadrupole moment.
01:13:32.420 What that is essentially fancy words for is that a dipole are two opposite charges very
01:13:37.140 close to each other.
01:13:37.940 And if you can put two dipoles over each other, you now have a quadrupole essentially.
01:13:42.160 Now quadrupole has four points to it.
01:13:44.200 And so we've seen from the work of scientists like Robert Forward and others all the way going
01:13:48.260 back to the 1960s under the Air Force, Hughes Aerospace, you know, Lockheed Martin, all of
01:13:52.900 that, that quadrupole mass oscillations can in fact induce gravity waves or gravitons.
01:13:58.980 And if you can emit gravitons, you can basically manipulate the reality around an object.
01:14:04.100 Do you feel like sometimes looking at this video though, that you're using theories like
01:14:07.680 that for confirmation bias?
01:14:09.000 Well, one thing I want to say, sure.
01:14:10.360 One thing I want to say, and that's a great question.
01:14:12.020 I wanted to bring up a couple minutes ago is that if someone did fake this, and again,
01:14:15.900 this is my opinion, they've done a fantastic job of making it look exactly like some things
01:14:19.820 I've seen in the laboratory on smaller scales.
01:14:22.180 So we're talking about a Boeing 7-7.
01:14:24.020 That's right.
01:14:24.960 I get it.
01:14:25.680 I get it.
01:14:25.980 But this image is like, this is not a high quality image.
01:14:30.000 Yeah.
01:14:30.220 I saw the other one where it's like the thermal.
01:14:32.740 I think we should put the thermal one too.
01:14:34.060 Yeah.
01:14:34.620 Absolutely.
01:14:35.120 Yeah.
01:14:35.220 Let me finish a couple of things too.
01:14:36.440 Cause on the thermal as well, you have to know what the MQ1C gray Eagle looks like.
01:14:39.800 We've identified the drone.
01:14:41.040 Do you consider that perhaps it came out of the government?
01:14:43.300 Yeah.
01:14:43.620 And I'm not saying as a leaker, I'm saying that.
01:14:45.900 The government made it and put it out.
01:14:47.500 In my mind there though, if you think about like, you have to have this knowledge of classified
01:14:50.320 systems back in 2014 as well.
01:14:52.060 The only people that in my mind could fake this would be the government themselves.
01:14:54.720 The problem with that is that you go show this video on CNN.
01:14:57.820 What are CNN brain viewers going to think?
01:14:59.920 They also had Don Lemon saying there was a black hole.
01:15:02.340 Don Lemon was a black hole.
01:15:03.480 That's a good.
01:15:03.980 But they're going to go, they're going to say, oh, this is a fake alien invasion.
01:15:06.980 They're going to say, oh, this is the government that created this.
01:15:08.900 It would implicate the government themselves.
01:15:10.380 So just a couple of last thoughts.
01:15:11.680 Unless, sorry, unless it's a part of a psyop of the government saying, look,
01:15:15.500 we're capable of doing this, whether we are or not.
01:15:17.200 Yeah.
01:15:17.360 It looks like that.
01:15:17.780 This type of like global, cold war, digital scenario.
01:15:20.760 Yeah.
01:15:20.840 We're going to scare people, whether or not this is real.
01:15:23.340 Well, sorry, if I can say very quickly, this speaks to the notion of what's been called
01:15:26.560 dual use, right?
01:15:27.400 You can use a hammer to fix something or to hit someone on the head with it.
01:15:29.860 So in this case as well, whether it's what's been called psychotronics or gravitational
01:15:33.780 wave emitters, I can't rule anything out as to what you guys are proposing either
01:15:37.500 to be fair.
01:15:38.240 Right.
01:15:38.380 Someone in the chat said, the guy who faked this is laughing his ass off right now at these outlandish
01:15:43.340 explanations for his fake video.
01:15:45.720 And I think that's just, you know, look, a lot of the things you're saying may be correct,
01:15:50.840 but I think it's just infinitely more plausible.
01:15:53.140 Some dude made this video and you can also easily explain, very easily explain how to
01:15:58.140 make the thermal video and the satellite video sync.
01:16:02.960 So it's like, we got these two different videos.
01:16:05.060 One's thermal, one's not.
01:16:06.060 They both show the same motion, same movements.
01:16:07.700 How do you do that?
01:16:08.460 It's really easy.
01:16:09.160 When you're using something like Unreal Engine, the position of the camera can be changed
01:16:12.380 just by dragging your mouse and you can record a scripted event in these games.
01:16:17.500 Hey, I play, I love this game, Skater XL, and I'll make the little character do a kickflip
01:16:22.120 backside smith down the big handrail.
01:16:23.940 And then after he lands it, I can rewind time and watch it from any angle I want and record
01:16:27.500 the video from any different angle, put filters on it and then just make it look however I want.
01:16:31.940 So recording an event like this and making it on a computer is not difficult.
01:16:36.860 Yeah, well, anything can be faked, right?
01:16:38.700 Especially in this day and age, especially with AI.
01:16:40.660 Now, that's part of the reason why I think this may be one of the last chances here where
01:16:43.840 we have true disclosure because because we know this is 2014, it makes it quite a bit
01:16:47.500 difficult.
01:16:48.000 It actually predates a lot of AI.
01:16:50.060 Computers have advanced a lot in the last 10 years.
01:16:52.800 In order just to render this because you need a 3D environment for your two different angles.
01:16:57.740 I've heard that just rendering it on computers could take weeks.
01:17:00.980 Now, the last thing I would say is I would like you to think about this is that how did the
01:17:03.940 person who hoaxes us know we would never find the plane, not even nine and a half years
01:17:06.940 later?
01:17:07.580 Because the moment we find the plane or like a significant debris field, right?
01:17:10.100 Oh, you don't want to hear my theory.
01:17:11.500 It breaks down, right?
01:17:12.080 What if there was no plane ever?
01:17:13.680 What if it was a hologram?
01:17:15.140 What if there was no?
01:17:15.800 The whole thing is fake.
01:17:17.020 True.
01:17:17.280 There is no people on the plane.
01:17:19.140 Yeah.
01:17:19.640 Freestand, I mean, is a thing really.
01:17:21.560 But like, it's perhaps.
01:17:23.200 I'm not saying that's what I believe.
01:17:25.100 Just saying when things like this happen and there's no real transparency in any official narrative
01:17:29.340 is never even the full narrative.
01:17:30.700 You shouldn't believe that.
01:17:31.460 And we should all be having these conversations because I think everything we're talking about
01:17:34.580 is like, there's a reality to it.
01:17:36.400 Right.
01:17:36.500 This kind of stuff is stuff the government's been talking about doing.
01:17:38.920 Whether or not these videos are real or not doesn't take away from all the conversations
01:17:41.860 we're having about the satellites and advanced technology.
01:17:45.040 Why does it blur like this?
01:17:46.720 Let's watch this.
01:17:47.600 Let's watch this.
01:17:48.180 Thermal video is interesting.
01:17:49.260 Well, so the blurring is interesting because in the last frame, the plane blurs.
01:17:52.840 And I've been talking to physicist Roy D. Herbert about this.
01:17:54.980 And he thinks this actually proves a mass reduction effect that's happening because what we're
01:17:58.680 seeing here is gravitational lensing.
01:18:00.300 So it's creating a field around the plane, an azimuth around the plane.
01:18:04.540 And in the final frame, we see the orbs actually flatten consistent with gravitational lensing.
01:18:08.160 Like if you were to look at a star behind a black hole and actually the plane.
01:18:11.860 They don't flatten, they blur.
01:18:13.020 Yeah.
01:18:13.460 Well, actually, you can see the flattening effect there a little bit.
01:18:15.920 Now that could be an issue due to the blurring of it.
01:18:19.240 Could be.
01:18:19.680 It could be.
01:18:19.900 This is called a lens stirring frame dragging effect.
01:18:23.000 Yeah.
01:18:23.260 This would be a blur.
01:18:24.820 We could sort of say a collapsing of the wave of the mass itself sort of situation.
01:18:29.360 But that's a ridiculous explanation for the camera blurred.
01:18:33.980 I know.
01:18:34.440 It's not blurring any other frames though, right?
01:18:36.000 It's only blurring there in that last frame.
01:18:37.860 There is some blur in like here, for instance.
01:18:40.680 Yeah, a little bit.
01:18:41.100 And they also, hey, it flattened.
01:18:42.680 And then it deflattens.
01:18:44.200 See?
01:18:44.500 Oh, they're flat.
01:18:44.980 That's actually the part where they're changing orientation.
01:18:47.120 Interesting.
01:18:47.360 So, it blurs.
01:18:50.900 See?
01:18:51.280 They're flat now.
01:18:52.300 And now they're flatter.
01:18:53.560 And now they're circles.
01:18:54.140 If I could say very quickly, Tim, this also speaks to when people film allegedly UAP with
01:18:59.540 their phones and the phone is very blurry and all of that.
01:19:01.640 It speaks to this notion that if you can bend gravity itself, you can therefore bend light.
01:19:05.940 And our pixels in our cameras are only rendering a flat space time and not a curved one.
01:19:11.320 What if Bigfoot is just blurry?
01:19:13.120 Yeah.
01:19:14.600 Blurry creatures.
01:19:15.800 I think that was Mitch Hadburn.
01:19:17.280 That's extra scary to me.
01:19:19.740 So, with this, Mitch, you said Mitch?
01:19:22.820 Yeah, Mitch Hadburn.
01:19:23.440 Oh, man.
01:19:24.060 Rest in peace.
01:19:24.580 I saw him three times before he died.
01:19:25.420 That was his joke, right?
01:19:26.100 I love, yeah.
01:19:26.680 What if Bigfoot is just blurry?
01:19:27.800 Yeah.
01:19:28.440 He was one of the best.
01:19:29.620 Our friend, Brett, who was the host of Pop Culture Crisis, was at his wake.
01:19:33.760 Wow.
01:19:34.260 Yes.
01:19:34.520 But this video, I know there's a lot of discrepancies with that frame that people say is taken from
01:19:41.280 a video game.
01:19:42.380 Now, how do you feel about that?
01:19:43.720 Like, what is your...
01:19:44.380 Which one?
01:19:44.940 Which frame?
01:19:45.620 Kellen, if you can go to where the thing is going.
01:19:47.500 Oh, I'm controlling it.
01:19:48.060 You're talking about the Pyromania of UFX.
01:19:50.380 That right there, I've seen a lot of people break that down, saying that this was actually
01:19:54.220 taking from the game Killing Time from the 90s and then put on top of that, and they
01:19:57.720 lay on top of it, but they say then, you know, they have to distort it to get it to
01:20:01.620 fit right.
01:20:02.480 But the thing that's weird to me, and I want to hear your explanation on that, is that
01:20:05.420 Killing Time is a video game about an object and people that disappear.
01:20:09.160 I didn't know that, yeah.
01:20:10.400 So, what the hell?
01:20:12.600 If someone did do that, they knew what they were doing, in my opinion.
01:20:16.420 But when people overlay the image from the Killing Time game onto that blast image...
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01:21:48.540 That one frame.
01:21:49.620 And it does seem to add up.
01:21:50.940 Like, how do you describe that?
01:21:53.160 Yeah.
01:21:53.400 I mean, I think that what they do is they try to reshape it, recolor it, and they try to
01:21:56.600 get the edge to map up.
01:21:57.780 But we've actually found that there's a lot of different effects in physics that you can
01:22:00.860 do that same thing where you match up that blast wave because it's just a dispersion
01:22:05.820 effect that a lot of things have.
01:22:07.080 And the problem is when they do that, they ignore the middle part.
01:22:09.400 Where if you look at the middle part, you can see there's these extra lines and explosion
01:22:11.940 effects that are going off there.
01:22:12.380 But they can take that stuff away, no?
01:22:13.540 Sure, you can take anything away.
01:22:14.480 But remember as well, this is an original thing.
01:22:16.500 Now, if this was something where you're copying it, I'd say, absolutely, you can easily just
01:22:19.100 copy it.
01:22:19.440 And that's what a lot of them do.
01:22:20.360 They say, okay, I'm just going to blur this and change this.
01:22:21.960 Now, if you were to take that same effect and not have something to copy and then change
01:22:26.580 it to try to get to match, how long would that take?
01:22:28.800 You know, I think that that's a much more difficult challenge.
01:22:31.360 But the chaos of an explosion and then the fact that an explosion can match in any way seems...
01:22:36.660 It's actually really common is what we found.
01:22:38.200 Somebody actually on Twitter did.
01:22:39.620 I think if you want to look up their Twitter, it was level 39.
01:22:42.600 And they showed that there's several different effects that actually match in this exact
01:22:45.840 same way where you can get it to line up just like that.
01:22:47.920 But we're talking about effects and a supposed wormhole as opposed to, you know, like the
01:22:53.500 video games and this video, you know, and not just like the explosions that we know of
01:22:57.200 on Earth.
01:22:57.880 So that's what's weird to me.
01:22:59.400 Yeah.
01:22:59.580 And what we're looking at is actually an endothermic event.
01:23:01.400 So that's why we see it cold on the thermal there, which is really exact opposite of an
01:23:06.040 exothermic event, which is an explosion.
01:23:08.200 And I think the big thing that makes the deception of that VFX go away is when you look at the
01:23:11.880 other frames and you realize it's not even close to the same.
01:23:14.560 Now, that one frame, I'll...
01:23:15.520 I hear you.
01:23:15.860 It looks similar.
01:23:16.440 I know what happened.
01:23:16.780 But just as the one frame is enough for me to question it.
01:23:19.040 Oh, of course.
01:23:19.400 I know what happened.
01:23:20.100 Of course.
01:23:20.500 Oh, Tim.
01:23:21.300 Okay, guys, you heard it here first.
01:23:22.840 The culture war.
01:23:23.500 Tim Pool is about to solve these videos.
01:23:26.140 They're fake.
01:23:26.920 The aliens made them to throw you off the trail.
01:23:28.780 Now we're talking.
01:23:29.480 And so, you know, what my goal here is, is like, again, people think that I'm super tied
01:23:35.620 to these videos just because I've been the one investigating them, what have you.
01:23:38.180 But here's a simple answer.
01:23:39.500 If they are fake, then the US government should be able to come out and say, hey, this whole
01:23:42.500 MH370 videos thing, this is not us.
01:23:44.620 This is not our MQ1C Gray Eagle.
01:23:46.280 That's not our sentient program using Sibbers to, you know, track this plane, which we know
01:23:50.400 it can do.
01:23:51.000 They should be able to come out and say that, right?
01:23:53.020 Now, if they come out, I don't think that they're allowed to lie.
01:23:55.620 Now, of course, they can lie in general.
01:23:56.860 But I think that if they were to take a definitive statement, they'd have to say, we cannot confirm
01:24:00.860 or deny anything that we see on the videos, right?
01:24:02.800 And that's why they can't come out saying anything.
01:24:04.440 Because if they did say that, everyone would go, oh, crap, it's real.
01:24:06.960 They're allowed to lie.
01:24:07.880 The issue is more so lies can get you caught lying.
01:24:11.000 Yes.
01:24:11.500 So that's one of the reasons they'll say, I cannot confirm or deny is because you don't
01:24:17.920 want to create a scenario where you give someone a definitive ability to debunk.
01:24:21.260 Exactly.
01:24:21.580 That's what they want to avoid.
01:24:22.740 And here's the thing, too, is that, you know, if they did that, we have so much evidence
01:24:25.740 that we would be able to poke holes in it.
01:24:27.280 And we think we've actually found the person who leaked these real videos.
01:24:30.520 Now, when I was staring at these videos, I thought, huh, I can build a psychological
01:24:34.920 profile for the person that leaked these because in the satellite video, you don't see the drone.
01:24:39.340 It's cropped out.
01:24:40.500 In fact, in the drone video, the HUD's been removed and it's been thermalized.
01:24:43.800 They've actually added a thermal layer using the Raytheon onboard software to put that
01:24:47.840 rainbow palette on there.
01:24:49.040 It's not something we've seen in a lot of these drone videos that come out there.
01:24:52.100 So it seems like this person would have been a U.S. military personnel.
01:24:55.040 They would be somebody that was not trying to damage national security.
01:24:57.660 They were trying to give the minimum amount of information away to solve the case.
01:25:01.080 They might not even have thought they were looking at U.S. technology.
01:25:03.500 They might have just thought we're looking at UFOs here and I'm going to show that UFOs
01:25:07.620 zapped the plane to the Xenu dimension or whatever.
01:25:09.620 So I was digging around looking for people just like we were doing earlier for people
01:25:13.800 that had been charged with espionage, will for attention to classified information, national
01:25:17.920 security information.
01:25:19.300 I couldn't find anything for weeks.
01:25:20.580 I almost gave up.
01:25:21.680 And then I started changing the date range searches around.
01:25:23.940 And all of a sudden, Lieutenant Commander Edward C. Lynn pops up.
01:25:27.140 On every single article I'm finding about him, signals intelligence.
01:25:30.700 Worked on the VPU specialized squadron spy planes.
01:25:34.000 He was actually deployed to this squadron on February 2014, one month before the plane disappeared.
01:25:42.020 He flew in the Lockheed Martin EP-3 Ares 2, which has real-time tactical SIGINT and motion
01:25:48.040 video intelligence.
01:25:49.320 What the crew does is they fuse collected intelligence along with off-board data and they create battlefield
01:25:54.740 situational awareness that they then report to leadership.
01:25:59.280 He was reassigned March 25th, 2014.
01:26:02.680 The investigation began April 2nd, 2014, into him.
01:26:06.600 In May of 2014, he was caught with flight manifests that include search and rescue code
01:26:11.900 names.
01:26:12.640 I can't think of any others after May, you know, between March and May.
01:26:15.800 The only search and rescue I can think of is MH370.
01:26:18.960 The defense in the case argued that the classified information in question was available on the
01:26:23.200 internet.
01:26:24.100 We were actually able to look at the appeals and the penal codes related to his appeals in
01:26:28.920 his case actually include the possibility that what he had leaked was video.
01:26:32.280 It could have also been images and pictures and other things as well.
01:26:34.900 I saw that story.
01:26:36.140 Didn't he end up, then this is just their official story, so take it with a grain of salt, but
01:26:40.000 didn't they just say he was passing information along to like a girl that he had met and it
01:26:44.200 wasn't really like video?
01:26:44.700 So it was a sting operation that they ran on him.
01:26:46.860 So they ran a sting operation in August of 2015.
01:26:49.300 They arrest him in September of 2015.
01:26:51.840 MH370 investigators have speculated that perhaps the reason why they didn't arrest him right
01:26:56.420 away, right after the event is because they need to disconnect it from the plane disappearance.
01:27:00.560 Otherwise, people are going to be able to figure it out right away.
01:27:02.500 So they wait like a year, right?
01:27:04.040 Then the FBI runs a sting operation.
01:27:06.120 I think they actually got him to sleep with this woman and start telling her secrets and
01:27:09.400 stuff like that.
01:27:10.300 Because otherwise, the problem was they were trying to get him with espionage, which would
01:27:13.200 have been charges that resulted in life in prison.
01:27:15.380 Right.
01:27:15.460 Turns out it wasn't really a spy case at all.
01:27:17.720 They ended up having to admit that there was no evidence whatsoever that he exchanged any
01:27:22.040 information with anyone from China.
01:27:23.340 Right.
01:27:23.760 They held him in pretrial detainment, even though the judge that kind of ruled why he was such
01:27:28.480 a huge risk didn't have any evidence.
01:27:31.040 So they wouldn't show any evidence of why he was a huge risk at all.
01:27:33.700 This guy was, we entrusted him with like nuclear weapons.
01:27:37.020 Like this guy was a patriot.
01:27:38.660 Do you think he's regicide?
01:27:40.320 The guy who put up the...
01:27:41.400 I don't think he's regicide, but I think he might be connected potentially to somebody.
01:27:44.660 If regicide was the first person that uploaded these videos, which we think that's at least
01:27:48.260 the evidence we have.
01:27:49.100 And that was in 2014.
01:27:50.080 He uploaded them?
01:27:50.640 Yeah.
01:27:50.900 And started a Twitter account in 2014?
01:27:52.720 Yeah.
01:27:52.940 So on May 22nd, 2014, started a Twitter account.
01:27:56.060 This is three days after the publish date of the videos.
01:27:58.180 Right.
01:27:58.580 It says, watch these videos before they're deleted.
01:28:01.060 Tags MH370 in them.
01:28:02.860 Right.
01:28:03.220 A lot of people wonder, why do we think this is MH370?
01:28:05.320 Other than the fact that it's a plane that looks exactly like MH370.
01:28:07.580 So a group called Corridor Crew, someone chatted this.
01:28:10.800 Yeah, yeah.
01:28:11.080 But they apparently already, they recreated it perfectly.
01:28:15.280 They found the effects that were used and everything, and they remade it.
01:28:18.880 They remade the whole thing.
01:28:19.840 That's not Corridor Crew's video right there.
01:28:21.620 That's not, I know.
01:28:22.580 Yeah.
01:28:22.820 So that's not Corridor Crew's video.
01:28:23.680 They did not recreate it.
01:28:24.660 Actually, their recreation was embarrassingly bad, just for the record.
01:28:27.800 We looked at it.
01:28:28.460 They couldn't even recreate five seconds of the video, and it's not even similar.
01:28:31.520 You can find it on my Twitter account.
01:28:32.820 We actually made a joke about how bad the recreation was using the Jury Duty TV show,
01:28:37.420 because it looked like some little kid's cousin, like, you know, nephew made the video that's
01:28:42.440 out there.
01:28:43.340 This was that other one that you were showing was a completely different one.
01:28:45.540 Now, I don't take anybody seriously that looks like Geordi LaForge sitting on a couch,
01:28:48.980 but this is not how you debunk videos is sitting on there trying to make jokes about people.
01:28:53.560 Why is the reality of the video so important to you in terms of this whole case?
01:28:57.540 It's actually not really that much anymore.
01:28:58.980 The fact that we've got so much evidence around the rest of the disappearance, the fact that we
01:29:02.460 know a plane can't crash into the ocean without leaving a debris field.
01:29:05.820 Because all that stuff is crazy, you know?
01:29:07.480 Yeah, I mean, like, we just know there's no chance that this plane crashed into the
01:29:10.720 South Indian Ocean.
01:29:11.500 The pilot's suicide narrative doesn't have any evidence that supports it whatsoever.
01:29:14.980 Like, the plane, the flight that he was supposedly practicing days before was actually MH150 to
01:29:20.860 Jetta, and this was, he was actually planned to take that flight and fly that route,
01:29:25.540 like, one day later, February 4th, 2014.
01:29:27.800 So, once you dispel all these narratives that are out there, you realize that no matter what
01:29:32.500 happened to the plane, it's not what the official story is out there.
01:29:34.860 Of course.
01:29:35.340 You know, I mean, like, they have an overlay from Killing Time, and it matches.
01:29:40.440 And this isn't even, the thing about their debunk is that this is not even their argument.
01:29:44.800 They just stole this from Mick West on Metabunk.
01:29:47.220 Like, literally, and I went on the Concrete podcast, and I was ambushed by this video at the
01:29:51.640 end, and I just thought it was a joke because I was expecting them to have a recreation.
01:29:54.960 I think these guys are VFX experts.
01:29:56.600 Can't they recreate it?
01:29:57.480 Like you said, if it's so simple, it would have taken them less time to recreate it than
01:30:00.660 to make the video about it.
01:30:02.020 Yeah, but these are guys, they're not trying to make a recreation to debunk something.
01:30:05.740 They're trying to make money off of an entertaining piece of content.
01:30:08.240 You are correct.
01:30:09.320 You know, so, back during Pizzagate, I absolutely loved the absurdity and the stupidity of what
01:30:15.740 people had done.
01:30:16.960 Emails get released.
01:30:18.100 WikiLeaks drops these emails.
01:30:19.100 We clearly see something weird is going on.
01:30:22.640 You have these emails that say things like, is it more fun playing dominoes on pizza or
01:30:27.520 pasta or something like that?
01:30:28.860 Yeah.
01:30:29.200 And what happens then is one day, for seemingly no reason, someone on 4chan posts that pizza
01:30:36.200 means boy and pasta means girl.
01:30:38.380 A list of code words and their meanings.
01:30:40.820 And then somehow, and for some reason, every single person tracking this started repeating
01:30:46.240 the lie.
01:30:47.520 It was fabricated.
01:30:48.840 There's no evidence this is true.
01:30:50.460 None of it was true.
01:30:51.960 And then all of a sudden, the whole narrative shifted to something that made no sense.
01:30:55.640 And of course, was easily debunked and resulted in complete nonsense.
01:30:59.200 The reality is, at the time, the actual argument before the introduction of the fake evidence
01:31:05.980 was that pizza and pasta were references to drugs.
01:31:08.600 That high profile personalities, politicians were having parties with elite Democrats and
01:31:13.040 politicians in DC.
01:31:14.640 And when they were referring to playing dominoes, they may have well been referring to playing
01:31:17.760 dominoes.
01:31:18.500 But when they said pizza or pasta, they were using code words for drugs because they didn't
01:31:21.740 want to send emails saying crack or ecstasy.
01:31:24.440 Someone then made up and completely fabricated this.
01:31:27.300 I will say this again, because it is so annoying.
01:31:30.100 Fabricated that pizza means boy and pasta means girl.
01:31:32.240 Made up.
01:31:33.160 So what I did was in my, you know, like IRC hacker friend groups, I took a newspaper from
01:31:38.560 the area and then I circled some things on it, referencing pizza and pastas and deliveries.
01:31:44.560 And then I said, take a look at this guy's more evidence to make the point because these
01:31:49.540 people were like, dude, whoa, pizza and pasta.
01:31:51.700 So I took a, an average, a newspaper that had coupons in it.
01:31:55.400 One of them was for a local pizza restaurant unrelated.
01:31:57.920 I said, we found another one, posted it and then said, look at this.
01:32:01.720 The extra large meal is $2 more than the small meal.
01:32:06.940 Something doesn't add up.
01:32:08.300 Why would double the size of the pizza only be $2 more, right?
01:32:11.500 And they go, whoa, you're right.
01:32:12.840 That makes no sense.
01:32:13.620 And look at this.
01:32:14.920 The jumbo family combo.
01:32:17.000 It's double the price of the extra large meal.
01:32:19.780 This, this, this.
01:32:20.640 And look, also the extra large meal had no description.
01:32:24.260 So you have small meal and it lists all these items, chicken wings, breadsticks.
01:32:28.140 Then it says extra large meal and it's a small box with a, with a price that makes no sense.
01:32:32.120 And then the next meal, once again, lists the chicken.
01:32:35.360 This one is code because if you're in the know and you're part of this conspiracy, you
01:32:39.600 know that this is the one that's actually signaling.
01:32:41.800 And they're like, whoa, dude, for real.
01:32:43.700 And I was like, no, I took a stupid newspaper and said some stupid BS to you guys.
01:32:47.700 You guys were clearly thrown bait by someone who's trying to get you off the trail of what
01:32:52.980 they're actually doing.
01:32:53.900 Probably having orgies and doing drugs in DC.
01:32:56.660 And now you guys are chasing after a psychotic story about some pizza basement because pizza
01:33:01.440 and pasta means nonsense to you.
01:33:03.040 They tricked you.
01:33:04.500 This is my point.
01:33:05.680 So when you see a video like this, it flabbergasts me, but I get it.
01:33:10.280 You clearly have the explosion in the, in the saddle, in this, in this thermal video matching
01:33:15.320 a video game from what the nineties is it?
01:33:17.700 I think it's the nineties.
01:33:18.540 Yeah.
01:33:18.900 And like you, you lay that and you're like, okay, we don't even need this video.
01:33:22.500 This video does nothing for us.
01:33:23.800 It in no way explains or does anything other than confuse you and make you start tracking
01:33:29.480 the wrong thing.
01:33:30.940 It is so easy to shatter investigations from crowdsourced groups on the internet by introducing
01:33:36.920 nonsense.
01:33:37.640 They chase after that has nothing to do with what actually happened.
01:33:40.700 Well, so the problem is that it does though.
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01:35:10.460 Plane's the whole story of the plane, right?
01:35:12.360 It matches up with a witness that we have in the location.
01:35:15.460 I think one thing that I didn't even mention in the things that are to fake it is with the
01:35:18.360 coordinates that we see in the bottom left, there are six decimal places.
01:35:21.120 You'd actually have to build a separate computer program just to have that coordinate system
01:35:24.660 that you overlay over your fake video.
01:35:26.240 So somebody who's researched everything you've said and knows everything you've said makes
01:35:31.100 a fake video and then you go, wow, it matches everything I've said.
01:35:34.140 Within 72 days.
01:35:35.280 And the problem is if you think back, because you guys are old enough to know.
01:35:37.660 How do you know it was within 72 days?
01:35:38.680 Because we have the published date on the internet archive that says that dates back all
01:35:42.940 the way back to 2014, that it was published on May 19th, 2014.
01:35:46.760 So that's the most amount of time you have.
01:35:48.460 So how do I verify that?
01:35:49.760 So yeah, you can find that.
01:35:51.060 It's on my all evidence link.
01:35:52.900 I think the original YouTube channel is gone now.
01:35:54.780 Yeah, the original one you can only find on the Wayback Machine out there.
01:35:58.560 For now, you can just take my word for it.
01:36:00.120 But I've got a link to it in my all evidence.
01:36:01.440 My theory is what if they made it well before we even believe they made it?
01:36:04.280 Yeah, no, I think that the idea that it's a PSYOP, again, I can't rule anything out from
01:36:08.620 that perspective.
01:36:09.440 And I also can't definitively rule out that this is some kind of hoax that's out there,
01:36:12.620 right?
01:36:12.800 We also have no confirmation that the video is of MH370.
01:36:17.320 Well, so it matches a 777-200.
01:36:20.140 The thermal is an exact overlay as well.
01:36:22.580 We can actually see the color tone from the satellite image where it's light on the top and
01:36:26.020 dark on the bottom as well.
01:36:27.280 And we know that Regisite and On on May 22nd, three days after they uploaded it on their Twitter,
01:36:31.780 actually tagged MH370 in it.
01:36:33.640 It's also the only known missing 777 as well.
01:36:36.280 So when CNN is blasting this thing 24-7 and every major news outlet is doing this, some
01:36:40.800 VFX guy just made a video and then uploaded it.
01:36:43.360 So the problem is that it was so much obfuscation early on.
01:36:45.720 Even now, people are like, wait, didn't that disappear to the South China Sea, right?
01:36:48.840 Because they don't realize that, okay, early on, we didn't even know about this narrative
01:36:52.680 of it going back over Malaysia for like five days.
01:36:55.020 And they were still searching the South China Sea, even though they knew, Malaysia knew the
01:36:58.300 whole time that it wasn't there.
01:36:59.860 What I also throw out is if you go watch the Minister of Defense, his interviews,
01:37:04.180 he actually admits that they knew the plane wasn't hostile.
01:37:07.180 Now, how could you know the plane's not hostile unless you have communication with the plane?
01:37:11.400 Now, this pretty much rules out a hijacking scenario and a pilot suicide scenario, because
01:37:16.140 in either of those scenarios, you're not going to know it's not hostile.
01:37:18.380 You should send up jets.
01:37:19.360 They never sent up jets.
01:37:20.960 So there's actually an interviewer actually talks to him and says, well, why wouldn't
01:37:23.880 you send the jets up?
01:37:24.500 He goes, well, why would I shoot down the planes?
01:37:25.840 Like, no, just to track the plane and see where it goes.
01:37:28.920 So even, you know, in the three months later, we didn't have the Immersat data.
01:37:32.560 The Immersat pings were not publicly released, and they were released through a blog two or
01:37:37.320 three years later in 2017.
01:37:38.640 So the idea that someone could piece this all together is maybe, I mean, even the idea
01:37:44.840 and narrative of going to the South Indian Ocean was first posed by unnamed U.S. sources
01:37:49.980 on March 13th, 2014, which is one day after supposedly Regiside Anand received the video.
01:37:56.580 So again, I can't rule it out.
01:37:58.280 I'm not trying to tell people what to believe.
01:38:00.060 I think that my opinion is that those videos are real and that the science will catch up
01:38:05.100 with us at some point and prove that we can teleport objects, even potentially as large
01:38:09.480 as a 777.
01:38:10.500 It seems impossible.
01:38:11.460 And I think some people might hear that and think that's absurd, but we've clearly been
01:38:15.240 working on technology to do stuff like this.
01:38:18.240 I mean, we've done crazy stuff from MKUltra to the, if you want to believe the Philadelphia
01:38:21.520 experiment, you know, obviously the Manhattan Project, a lot of weird things are up.
01:38:25.380 I don't think we need these videos to prove that we do it.
01:38:28.400 The thing that really is concerning to me, I hope people take away from all of this is
01:38:31.780 that, uh, and maybe you think this too, like if we have these global infrared systems tracking
01:38:37.220 everything, then they knew they must've known whether or not these are actually satellite
01:38:40.960 images.
01:38:41.300 They must've known that, oh, there's the plan.
01:38:43.620 We'll just let it go.
01:38:44.380 And then if you think, if you want to accept that, what else are they watching?
01:38:47.280 Just letting go and happen.
01:38:48.120 Like a, some weird false God.
01:38:50.220 What other methods of surveillance do they have that are not even publicly?
01:38:53.180 It's coming from within and from without.
01:38:54.760 Right.
01:38:55.040 It's everywhere.
01:38:55.880 Yeah.
01:38:56.080 The whole planet is covered in these satellites.
01:38:58.060 Right.
01:38:58.520 So again, whether or not we want to believe in these, I don't, it's almost like it doesn't
01:39:02.120 even matter because like there was a plane, unless you want to take my theory as it's
01:39:05.480 a hologram plane, which I, please, you can go down that route too.
01:39:08.300 Yeah.
01:39:09.500 Then that means that we had satellites tracking this and the Cope Tiger, is that what you
01:39:12.920 say?
01:39:13.080 The Cope Tiger scenario in the ocean?
01:39:14.980 Also crazy.
01:39:15.960 Yeah.
01:39:16.260 Like every part of this is nuts.
01:39:18.040 Remember old school YouTube?
01:39:19.900 Old school YouTube.
01:39:21.540 Yeah.
01:39:21.700 Yeah.
01:39:21.880 You can watch the video.
01:39:22.640 Uh, yeah.
01:39:23.200 So one thing I want to say too, as well, I was never into the conspiracies or anything
01:39:27.360 before this, but I did know there's no way that we could not be tracking a, I knew the
01:39:31.880 United States must know more about what happened to this plane.
01:39:33.740 Right.
01:39:34.020 But I was never into conspiracies like this until I saw this and realized like, holy crap,
01:39:38.180 this makes more sense than the crap.
01:39:39.560 Are there other videos like from the UFO world that you look at and you say like, that's
01:39:44.560 totally fake or that's totally real?
01:39:45.780 Well, if I could say very quickly, even putting aside videos, there have been experiments in
01:39:49.180 what have been coined the, we could say alternative or fringe physics field that have gone back
01:39:53.280 as early as World War II, ultimately that have shown that people in their garages have
01:39:57.580 done things that today would be considered quote unquote impossible.
01:40:00.500 Right.
01:40:00.880 And so that's another thing I wanted to reemphasize as well is not so much the, uh, at least for
01:40:05.240 me personally, although I do have great support and respect for, for Ashton here, um, the
01:40:09.760 conceptual physics behind the video itself is something I'm personally, um, more into trying
01:40:15.540 to emphasize because of the fact that it's not about for me, is the video real or not?
01:40:19.580 As I said earlier, for me, it's more about, and I'm not trying to, to be fair, I'm not
01:40:22.620 trying to use that as a cop-out if it's fake, it's fake.
01:40:24.460 But if someone did fake it, they've done, in my opinion, a very good job of correlating
01:40:28.580 it to what experimental.
01:40:29.860 Right.
01:40:30.240 And what I'm saying is it could have been faked by someone who also knows the same theories
01:40:33.560 as you do.
01:40:34.200 Right.
01:40:34.340 And so they knew that someone like you knowing those theories would be like, I'm going to
01:40:37.780 lay this out, you know, and then someone with my expertise in that field would be
01:40:41.860 like, well, it does add up to what I've seen on a smaller scale or what I've
01:40:45.460 read about.
01:40:46.060 So that's what I, you know, I worry about.
01:40:47.960 Cause I worry about this with, especially moving into 2024 with the way we are going
01:40:51.580 to experience insane deep fakes and insane AI that this is out here now as a way for
01:40:57.460 various reasons to, to prove what maybe the government can get away with in terms of
01:41:01.340 twisting your perception.
01:41:02.340 Right.
01:41:02.580 And if I could be clear as well, there are things as a consultant contractor, et cetera,
01:41:06.100 I've seen that, you know, certain people would say, oh, that's impossible.
01:41:08.760 And so that's why I would like to very kindly reemphasize to you guys here and also to
01:41:12.500 your audience that I'm not trying to tell anyone what to believe or what to think.
01:41:16.220 I'm trying to give the, as many forms of pieces of information as I can that allow people
01:41:21.440 to put things together on their own.
01:41:22.900 You know, people are going to hear you say DOD contractor and they're going to think
01:41:25.200 you're connected to this.
01:41:25.940 Yeah, sure.
01:41:26.700 I'm completely fine with, I'm completely fine with that.
01:41:28.900 I just encourage people to listen to what I have to say scientifically and then they'll,
01:41:32.860 they'll be able to tell.
01:41:33.660 It should be up to everyone to determine what they think about this.
01:41:35.640 That's how we need to move into 2024.
01:41:37.420 Right.
01:41:37.660 I want to say too, from the UFO community perspective too, like you just mentioned,
01:41:41.440 I started getting interested in UFOs when those DOD Navy videos were, you know, declassified
01:41:46.240 and that, oh, well then maybe there's something to hear this, right?
01:41:48.180 The tic-tac, the tic-tac, the gimbal, go fast videos.
01:41:51.440 I thought, oh, okay, there must be something.
01:41:52.620 I've never once since then saw videos where I thought like I need to be so compelled as to
01:41:57.040 become an activist until I saw these videos.
01:41:59.300 And I think the aspect of this forward facing gravity engine you see in the thermal, that's
01:42:03.240 the one where I'm going, wow, I've never seen anything like that at all.
01:42:06.040 And then I'm saying that is kind of like something what Bob Lazar would say.
01:42:09.320 And then something with knowledge of that could then apply that to the video, you know,
01:42:12.460 because it is, no one thinks like on the mainstream level of the forward facing gravity.
01:42:17.060 So stack up all those requirements now, right?
01:42:18.280 It's like, okay, now you got to know about UFOlogy and how these gravities work.
01:42:21.300 Joe Rogan is one of the most popular podcasts in the world.
01:42:23.220 All he does, he loves talking about aliens.
01:42:24.160 If I can give a practical example, and I do believe it may be difficult to look up, but
01:42:28.320 I'd happily provide the actual paper itself for anyone interested after.
01:42:31.640 But essentially there was an experiment done by two gentlemen named Saxel and Woodward.
01:42:35.560 And what they found was that when they took an aluminum cylinder and they put it on a scale
01:42:39.660 and they would rotate the cylinder while charging it electrically, the cylinder would begin
01:42:43.780 to lose its weight, 20, 30, 40 grams, the faster they spun it.
01:42:47.380 And so it speaks to this notion that, well, if you had a craft, for example, that was a
01:42:50.760 metal, sort of like what we see on the table here in the studio, then it would be able
01:42:54.440 to slowly, this would not be the instant takeoff that people claim to see.
01:42:57.660 This would be the slow lifting off from the ground.
01:42:59.780 Is this the LK99 stuff?
01:43:00.880 This is what it could give rise to.
01:43:02.340 Okay.
01:43:02.800 That's what this material room temperature superconductors give rise to such.
01:43:05.820 And it's so plausible that our government has a technology that's 15 to 100 to 200 years
01:43:10.520 I would dare to say, in my opinion, there's three different ways to generate these gravitons.
01:43:15.020 First one is electromechanically using spin.
01:43:17.160 The second one is a solid state.
01:43:19.100 And then the third one is lasers and plasmas.
01:43:21.100 I would say the lasers and plasmas probably the least matured field, but the solid state one
01:43:25.440 has been something using superconductors that can even, even high temp cryo cooled could
01:43:30.320 still emit this type of stuff.
01:43:31.960 Yeah.
01:43:32.300 And I, this type of, all that is plausible.
01:43:34.240 And when I think of this, I think I'm going back to the government because I think they're
01:43:37.440 not the boogeyman for everything, but they do do a lot of crazy stuff.
01:43:41.000 Absolutely.
01:43:41.400 And I can't help but apply my skepticism to the government, to anything, especially this,
01:43:45.660 because we know about Lockheed Martin or Raytheon and stuff like that.
01:43:48.520 Here's a, here's a conspiracy theory for you.
01:43:50.160 Oh, beautiful.
01:43:50.860 This video is made by the government.
01:43:52.560 That's what I'm saying.
01:43:53.320 And why is because they want shows like this to exist because they want China and Russia
01:43:58.480 to look at this and say, we don't know if this is, uh, actually I'll just, I'll just,
01:44:04.780 I'll give you the example of the men who stay at goats.
01:44:06.720 You guys know the story about this one?
01:44:07.960 Oh yeah.
01:44:08.420 Yes.
01:44:08.700 Yeah.
01:44:08.900 They, they, the, the, what is it?
01:44:10.540 Like the, the, the U S thinks Russia has got a spy, a psychic program.
01:44:15.020 It's like, yes.
01:44:15.840 So they launch one and then Russians find out the U S is launching a psychic program.
01:44:18.840 So they launch one.
01:44:19.880 Yeah.
01:44:20.140 And it was just, we're going to explode a guitar.
01:44:22.640 The U S government has great psyops, uh, uh, incentives to make something like this because
01:44:27.700 you'll, you get tons of podcasts talking about it.
01:44:29.940 And then what's the reasonable reaction from, uh, Russia or China.
01:44:33.880 It's not to say they're aliens.
01:44:35.060 It's to go, is there a possibility the U S has weapons tech we're unfamiliar with?
01:44:38.380 Right.
01:44:38.840 Yeah.
01:44:38.940 Let's, let's, let's put resources into it and it drains resources into stupid nonsense.
01:44:42.760 Yeah, it could be.
01:44:43.280 I think that if you, now, if I look at it as part of the reason why I think that that's,
01:44:46.900 uh, somewhat unlikely in addition to the idea that if, you know,
01:44:49.700 they've never promoted this in nine years, right?
01:44:51.260 We know it goes back nine years.
01:44:52.500 If they had done it right away, I've said, okay, that's for sure.
01:44:54.360 What I think is, I think they're probably the only people that could pull off baking
01:44:57.000 these videos just because of the requirements.
01:44:58.240 But I also want to point out a couple of things going back to the conspiracy angle that
01:45:01.480 may add to this or take away from it is that China actually hacked Malaysian government
01:45:05.720 the next day on March 9th, because China knew something was wrong.
01:45:08.580 They've got satellites.
01:45:09.980 It's actually, you can go, you can, you can, uh, Google and you can find the articles about
01:45:12.760 it.
01:45:12.880 So they actually pulled off of a social engineering scam against Malaysia and they were able to
01:45:17.700 get people to click on a link saying that they found debris.
01:45:19.980 And when they did, they were able to hack into their system.
01:45:21.860 They actually stole the crisis meeting minute notes of MH370, as well as classified information
01:45:26.660 about the plane, which on March 9th, what classified information would there be about the plane
01:45:30.500 other than they knew before they knew something else happened or before.
01:45:33.300 Now I've also FOIA'd, um, at least like what, seven different agencies, either about Edward
01:45:38.900 C.
01:45:39.120 Lin case or about MH370 going missing and the satellites.
01:45:43.600 Every single one has been rejected for various reasons.
01:45:46.020 Now, um, uh, or O'Reilly Tate's, she was FOIA requests have been rejected.
01:45:50.820 You're saying, did they say why they were rejected to be kept secret in the interest of national
01:45:54.400 defense or foreign policy?
01:45:55.560 Basically all of them get the same exemption, which is from an Obama era, uh, executive order
01:45:59.980 because Obama actually opened up FOIA requests back in 2009, but he put this exemption in
01:46:04.440 there.
01:46:04.620 And this is one of those reasons is national defense or foreign policies.
01:46:08.580 They rejected everything about the Edward C.
01:46:11.060 Lin case.
01:46:11.540 I, uh, FOIA'd the NCIS, who are the ones who are the investigators.
01:46:15.020 They wouldn't give me anything, not even one redacted document.
01:46:17.640 Uh, O'Reilly Tate's, uh, she did it to the NSA national security agency.
01:46:22.040 We found this historical record for doing that back in 2014 that got completely rejected.
01:46:26.860 FBI rejected me.
01:46:28.000 The NRO said that they would technically reject it because it's going to take longer
01:46:31.260 than 20 days.
01:46:31.900 It's been well over a hundred days now.
01:46:33.420 I don't think I'm going to ever get anything back from them.
01:46:35.560 And recently I've also FOIA'd the NGA, the national geospace agency.
01:46:39.420 Um, I'm also going after the air force and the Navy for communications logs from the airplanes
01:46:44.060 that were in the sky around those days as well, because I think that there must be some
01:46:48.100 angle of attack to figure out what happened.
01:46:50.100 Right.
01:46:50.360 But why would they be rejecting all of this?
01:46:52.620 This is the United States government.
01:46:54.040 To keep their disinformation campaign going.
01:46:55.800 But, you know, and can they do that in a FOIA?
01:46:58.480 Cause can't they, you know.
01:46:59.620 They can do a lot.
01:47:00.460 Yeah.
01:47:00.960 And they can do whatever they want, honestly.
01:47:02.880 The NCIS though, it was the head of legal of, uh, information like the FOIA information
01:47:08.100 is the one who responded back with their name and, you know, signature on there.
01:47:11.320 So to some degree, there's some element of liability if they lie.
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01:48:42.560 So, you know, to me, something happened here that is being protected in the interest of
01:48:46.640 national defense and foreign policy.
01:48:47.940 Now, what is it, right?
01:48:48.900 And it could be back to what I was saying, like, they knew they were tracking this plane.
01:48:52.740 If these, we know these satellites exist.
01:48:54.760 And then they were just like, and then didn't they stop the search earlier than other countries?
01:48:58.640 One month after the United States was like, oh, we're done in April.
01:49:01.860 And in April, Obama visited Malaysia for the first time in 50 years as well and stayed there
01:49:06.500 and hung out the prime minister for a couple of days.
01:49:08.860 Go thank him for making his hologram plan.
01:49:10.460 Yeah.
01:49:11.020 Or, you know, yeah.
01:49:12.020 Covering up whatever really happened there.
01:49:13.660 Right.
01:49:14.120 So, yeah, I think that no matter how you look at this, there's a conspiracy angle here that
01:49:18.820 is not resolved.
01:49:19.660 What's ironic is I agree with you as well on the fact that I know you're joking, but practically
01:49:23.500 from a physics perspective, the hologram angle is interesting.
01:49:27.360 Let's put joking in quotes.
01:49:28.660 Right, right.
01:49:29.100 You know, because like Project Blue Beam is another conspiracy, but it's something people
01:49:32.940 think about, especially in this community of the UFOs and the conspiracy theories and
01:49:36.800 people, when you know certain types of information that's out there, at least been theorized.
01:49:40.720 Yes.
01:49:41.220 It makes it okay to then question anything like this because we know things from the past.
01:49:45.680 And we were only, a lot of the stuff we're talking about is stuff we know from decades
01:49:48.100 ago.
01:49:48.560 Exactly.
01:49:48.980 A lot of stuff has happened since.
01:49:50.340 We might talk about MKUltra with people.
01:49:52.140 Right.
01:49:52.360 That's in the past.
01:49:53.500 And they're like, ah, it's in the past.
01:49:54.840 I'm like, no, no, no.
01:49:55.600 It's just everywhere now.
01:49:56.860 Yeah.
01:49:57.060 We're in MKUltra's wet dream.
01:49:58.900 Are you guys familiar with talking plasma?
01:50:00.760 Yes.
01:50:01.300 Yeah.
01:50:01.460 Ian brings us up quite a bit on IRL.
01:50:03.340 Yes.
01:50:03.500 And the idea is rather simple.
01:50:05.220 You can use multiple lasers to, when they collide in space, create a three-dimensional
01:50:10.260 image, which you can then move around at the speed of light.
01:50:12.520 And if I can mention quickly, you can also add a non-linear barium titanate crystal into
01:50:17.160 that laser.
01:50:17.920 And then you can also amplify those effects.
01:50:20.640 I'm totally with that.
01:50:21.480 Yeah.
01:50:21.620 So when we have in the public sphere, because Project Bluebeam is trending right now.
01:50:26.320 Oh, because of the aliens.
01:50:27.080 Because of the aliens.
01:50:27.900 Because of the aliens, yeah.
01:50:29.080 So when you have, we know about this at the public level, and you can, I don't know if
01:50:33.460 you want to pull the image up.
01:50:34.220 It's a very simple image of talking plasma.
01:50:36.160 They're just pointing lasers.
01:50:37.280 And, you know, when they intersect, it creates a point in space.
01:50:41.280 You can see it floating.
01:50:42.560 Yeah.
01:50:42.780 But it's just two lasers.
01:50:44.080 You do three lasers, and now you're moving around a three-dimensional object.
01:50:47.160 Right.
01:50:47.500 Imagine what would happen if you have 10,000 or a million.
01:50:50.180 Right.
01:50:50.540 You know, we take a look at TV screens, and how many LEDs are in a 4K screen?
01:50:55.980 They're pixels, yeah.
01:50:56.740 I've had a lot.
01:50:57.340 It's a lot.
01:50:57.780 It's a lot.
01:50:57.820 A lot.
01:50:58.720 4K is a lot.
01:51:00.120 It's, you know, yeah, I don't know.
01:51:02.460 Now, imagine if the U.S. government has been able to create a system with 1 million by 1
01:51:07.640 million lasers, or that's probably a ridiculous number, but let's just say like 1,000 by 1,000,
01:51:12.200 and then they're all pointing them in the sky, creating images.
01:51:15.560 And if I can mention photons.
01:51:16.520 Like planes.
01:51:17.200 Like planes or clouds.
01:51:18.260 Right.
01:51:18.660 And I believe photons are the only particles that humans can see directly within the full spectrum
01:51:23.560 of it.
01:51:23.980 And so, exactly.
01:51:25.320 Yeah.
01:51:25.460 Could very well be easy to scale up what we already know with talking plasma into full
01:51:32.300 objects in space.
01:51:33.220 And, Ashton, you're talking about like time frame and how they could do it in a certain
01:51:35.480 amount of time, or like why they wouldn't have done it sooner with the government releasing
01:51:39.480 stuff.
01:51:40.480 I mean, this is my bias towards the government, is that they slow roll these things.
01:51:44.320 You talked about predictive programming earlier.
01:51:45.620 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:51:45.900 I believe in that too.
01:51:46.840 I think that's pretty crazy that a Boeing 777 went missing on a show, and then 10 years
01:51:51.320 later, I think, this happens, right?
01:51:52.960 I think that's an understatement.
01:51:53.600 Now we're 10 years later, sorry, 10 years later, now we're talking about it again.
01:51:56.800 And it's always incrementally getting crazier and more absurd.
01:51:59.740 Yes.
01:52:00.240 But that's just me because I might be crazy.
01:52:01.860 Well, if I can, the whole thing with the talking lasers concept, and it makes perfect
01:52:05.740 sense, and I think slow rolling is an understatement because when we think of the ability, when
01:52:09.440 we combine the concept that there's, you know, the notion of alchemy and cold fusion combined
01:52:15.040 with lasers, for example, you may be able to get photons turned into phonons, which are
01:52:19.680 the sound version of light and photons.
01:52:21.720 And from there, you can then perhaps at the, basically at the molecular level, penetrate
01:52:27.100 from a distance using a laser beam, one skull, and then you have all of a sudden some spirit
01:52:32.600 is talking to you.
01:52:33.160 Or like, I think maybe as you posted like sonic waves adjusting water.
01:52:37.260 Right.
01:52:37.540 You know, and aren't there stories of the weapons of people getting sick?
01:52:40.680 What is that story?
01:52:41.520 It was alleged during-
01:52:42.640 Havana syndrome.
01:52:43.180 It was alleged during the Gulf War.
01:52:44.560 A lot of this was tested as well too.
01:52:45.820 Right.
01:52:46.060 Yeah.
01:52:46.320 And that's-
01:52:46.800 You guys, you guys know about ultra low frequency generators?
01:52:49.540 Absolutely.
01:52:50.160 The Gwen Towers, Ground Wave Emergency Network, the Air Force?
01:52:52.800 Yeah.
01:52:53.240 Well, I don't know about that specifically.
01:52:54.720 There's, there's articles from the eighties on that.
01:52:56.300 Right.
01:52:56.600 The idea.
01:52:57.500 So you, you, you all have generators that call them weapons that emit ultra low frequencies
01:53:02.440 that you don't immediately perceive, but can cause problems, hallucinations, auditory
01:53:08.740 hallucinations, heart palpitations.
01:53:10.240 This speaks to the, sorry, the Tesla work, the idea Tesla proposed that the ground itself,
01:53:15.480 the earth was a capacitor.
01:53:16.820 Right.
01:53:16.940 So if you can get frequencies to run through the ground instead of the air, then you can
01:53:20.960 have it, for example, lock into the resonant frequency of another person, right?
01:53:25.280 Please don't make me derail this conversation and talk about how Tesla was, Tesla's work
01:53:28.680 was taken by Trump's uncle and now Trump's a time traveler.
01:53:30.540 I, well, that's another podcast.
01:53:32.440 So check this out.
01:53:33.100 That's another podcast.
01:53:33.980 Cause I, I, I, I've read a good amount about, back in the day, I read a lot about directed
01:53:38.700 energy weapons, but ultra low frequency weapons are hypothesized.
01:53:44.440 And it's maybe true, I don't know, I haven't, I haven't read into it in, in, in 15 or so
01:53:47.180 years.
01:53:47.700 It can make you vomit.
01:53:49.080 Yes.
01:53:49.340 They could, they can, they can put this generator, pulse these ultra low frequencies into a populated
01:53:54.740 area.
01:53:55.220 And then all of a sudden people start feeling nauseated and some of them will start vomiting.
01:53:59.340 They, they can also, I believe this is true.
01:54:01.520 They, they have light weapons that can, you know, you know, they always get warnings on,
01:54:05.900 you know, games like seizures and stuff.
01:54:07.640 They actually have programmable, high powerful lights that can make you not nauseated.
01:54:11.600 They can point it at you and they, they can press the button.
01:54:13.860 And then you start, when you, if you look at it, it'll start making me feel, it makes
01:54:16.720 you feel sick.
01:54:17.500 And I was reading about how they've done lab experiments where they've simulated hauntings
01:54:23.460 using ULS generators because it makes your hair stand on end.
01:54:27.260 You're feeling something.
01:54:28.160 It makes you feel uneasy and sick.
01:54:29.520 Things start feeling cold and they're like, we can simulate the experience.
01:54:33.120 So what this has resulted in, and this was non-nefarious, they were just trying this out.
01:54:37.080 They said, what if a lot of people are experiencing these ghost phenomenon in these key areas,
01:54:42.060 not because there's ghosts, but because there's a seismic plate or some kind of earth activity
01:54:47.560 emitting an ultra low frequency, which is hitting these people in this one area, resulting
01:54:51.680 in a high density of stories from this one area about ghost experiences.
01:54:54.860 Right.
01:54:55.000 You're talking about, I call, I've been calling them fear rituals where we all experience these
01:54:58.320 things like collectively.
01:54:59.480 This is what I was trying to say.
01:55:00.200 This is one for me.
01:55:00.860 Right.
01:55:01.100 This is what I was trying to say with the alleged testing during the Gulf war with these psychotronic
01:55:04.240 weapons, right?
01:55:04.900 These ULF ultra low frequency devices where certain people claimed, you know, the spirit
01:55:08.820 of God was speaking to them.
01:55:10.000 And I don't mean to insult anyone with their personal beliefs, but the notion that this
01:55:13.620 is possible makes one think, okay, so we have solids, liquids, gases, plasmas, then lighter
01:55:18.380 than that.
01:55:18.880 We have our Bose-Einstein condensate that we were talking about earlier.
01:55:21.740 If one can manipulate the particles of that condensate to get, become even lighter, but still
01:55:26.940 controllable, you would basically, from a visual perspective, you basically be creating what
01:55:31.480 people call quote unquote ghosts.
01:55:33.060 Yeah.
01:55:33.500 And so.
01:55:34.100 This is why I keep saying about the false God.
01:55:35.760 Right.
01:55:36.020 I believe in God, but I also believe people are manufacturing God.
01:55:39.140 This is why, one of the reasons I wanted, I appreciate Ashton for bringing me on the
01:55:42.280 show, because I think that one of the reasons that I'm doing this from my perspective is
01:55:45.320 that this has gone too far in terms of the suppression of this stuff.
01:55:48.440 I understand to a certain degree for NATSEC, genuine national security reasons, but this
01:55:52.880 is, this is too far.
01:55:54.000 This is too far.
01:55:54.600 In which way?
01:55:55.180 It's been suppressed and hidden for too long.
01:55:57.260 Okay.
01:55:57.440 Yeah.
01:55:57.800 How do you feel about it going too far and us having like a moral compass to stop it?
01:56:02.640 You know?
01:56:03.280 I know what you.
01:56:04.220 And do we, because we know other people are creating it.
01:56:06.520 This is, this becomes the problem.
01:56:08.000 The problem is, is I think once you start hiding things like our, like certain elements
01:56:11.520 of the government have decades ago, it becomes more difficult to reveal it.
01:56:15.380 But if you don't, then it gets even worse from there.
01:56:17.260 So the ACLU has listed on their website, infrasonic weapons that use inaudible low frequency
01:56:25.220 sounds to cause pain and disorientation currently on new technology under investigation.
01:56:29.320 They also mentioned the mosquito, which you guys know about that.
01:56:32.500 It's a high, super high frequency sound that only younger people can hear.
01:56:34.720 Cause as you get older, your ears get worse.
01:56:36.220 There's a, um, uh, the dullest town center mall.
01:56:38.980 I think it is nearby.
01:56:40.260 They, uh, I caught them blasting and I'm like, this should be illegal.
01:56:45.140 I gotta be honest.
01:56:45.920 We walked into the mall and this is like a year and a half ago.
01:56:48.180 So, and instantly it is a painfully loud noise where I'm like, I gotta, like, I get older
01:56:55.740 people can't hear these sounds, but imagine someone cranked a jackhammer to like in full
01:57:01.520 volume in the mall.
01:57:02.420 Yeah.
01:57:02.820 And they, like, I don't, I think it should be illegal because this is, this is physical,
01:57:07.620 it's physical harm is being caused to people.
01:57:09.360 It's on my Instagram.
01:57:10.180 If you go way back in time, I recorded it, put it into, I, I, I, I have a, a sound frequency
01:57:17.240 app where you can play it and it'll show you all sound frequencies.
01:57:20.780 So if it's inaudible, you're, it's picking it up and you can see a huge spike in a certain
01:57:24.560 frequency.
01:57:25.320 So I brought it, I came back home, took the recording, put it into Adobe, and then I use
01:57:29.700 a parametric equalizer to isolate the frequency that I saw spike it.
01:57:33.400 And you can actually hear as I'm adjusting it in real time going, you know, it's incredible.
01:57:37.000 It's incredible because these devices enable, in my opinion, they use parametric resonance
01:57:41.340 to enable these effects.
01:57:42.400 And the question I would have for both of you guys and for your audience as well, is that
01:57:45.520 how do you sue the government or how do you take the government to court for something
01:57:48.720 that doesn't officially exist?
01:57:50.580 And you see what I'm saying?
01:57:51.420 It's like COINTELPRO again.
01:57:52.520 Well, think about how crazy this is.
01:57:54.460 So this mall is blasting a sound at an insane, insanely loud volume.
01:57:59.120 Kids who are in the mall and complaining to their parents, mommy, it hurts.
01:58:02.260 My ears hurt.
01:58:02.860 She's going, nothing's happening.
01:58:04.100 You're, you're, brings her to the doctor and says she's hearing strange noises.
01:58:07.580 The doctor says there's no noises.
01:58:08.940 Do you hear the sounds now?
01:58:10.200 This is, this should be totally illegal because the other issue is these kids are going to get
01:58:13.660 hearing damage and then it's going to be remarkable when you go to court and you're like, I have
01:58:18.140 an audio recording proving they did it.
01:58:19.780 You press play and the judge goes, I don't hear anything.
01:58:21.700 You go, look at the spectral map.
01:58:23.340 And this is why I like to emphasize that we are only as good as the detectors that we make.
01:58:27.920 And that's why by not, for example, if we have a certain spectrometer that tests only a
01:58:32.460 certain frequency range, by definition of that detector, the other aspects of outside of
01:58:37.040 that range don't exist.
01:58:38.500 Right.
01:58:38.580 And so to Tim's point, this is where it becomes scary because you may have someone going to
01:58:42.240 a mental hospital when they've actually heard something that was actually genuinely induced.
01:58:46.400 If I could just, could you imagine like we hear these stories where a guy's like, I'm
01:58:49.940 hearing people whispering and then they're like, he's crazy.
01:58:52.300 It's like, no, they're actually using, you're going to evolution of MK ultra in my opinion.
01:58:57.280 To add to that, to the evolution of it, I would encourage you in your audience to look into
01:59:00.700 something called longitudinal scalar wave interferometry.
01:59:04.520 They show how they use x-ray microwave transmitter receivers at a distance to do this stuff.
01:59:09.440 Do you think they make it sound so hard to remember and say, so they just, do we just
01:59:12.480 give up?
01:59:13.340 Like, what the heck?
01:59:14.340 Well, to be honest, I know, I know.
01:59:16.600 You guys ready?
01:59:17.440 I'm the only one wearing the headphones, but I'm going to play two videos for you.
01:59:21.140 Okay.
01:59:21.560 And let's go.
01:59:23.500 This is going to fry my brain.
01:59:24.840 Yeah.
01:59:25.140 You're done now.
01:59:25.920 That's a great point, by the way.
01:59:26.960 Use big words.
01:59:27.700 It sounds good.
01:59:28.260 No, it's true.
01:59:29.020 And they have these speakers.
01:59:30.640 Can you hear it?
01:59:31.140 And they're blasting a very high frequency sound.
01:59:35.100 It's called the mosquito tone.
01:59:36.880 Typically, older people can't hear it.
01:59:38.900 You can all hear it.
01:59:40.200 It's basically at full volume.
01:59:41.900 It's imagine someone's blasting full, like 120 weeks ago.
01:59:45.240 Now, check this out.
01:59:46.100 For those of you that couldn't hear it, here's me taking that recording I made and running
01:59:49.980 it through Adobe and parametric equalizer to, uh, I pitch shift.
01:59:54.160 Sorry, not parametric equalizer.
01:59:54.840 I was wrong.
01:59:55.420 I pitch shift the whole thing.
01:59:56.560 So it brings the frequency down to audible levels or to, to an audible range.
02:00:00.420 Here we go.
02:00:01.400 All right.
02:00:01.860 So check this out.
02:00:02.840 I'm going to play the recording from the mall with the mosquito tone.
02:00:06.160 The speaker's right here.
02:00:07.140 I'm going to play it right now at normal pitch.
02:00:09.460 You guys ready?
02:00:12.000 All right.
02:00:12.620 So some of you can probably hear it.
02:00:14.880 Yeah.
02:00:15.520 Many of you probably can't.
02:00:16.980 For those that couldn't hear anything, let me help you out by pitch shifting this down
02:00:21.260 because higher, higher frequencies are harder to hear for older people.
02:00:25.740 And here's what it sounds like to me and our friends.
02:00:29.460 Wow.
02:00:30.140 Yeah.
02:00:30.580 I guess this means I'm old.
02:00:32.320 It's so bad.
02:00:33.360 I heard that.
02:00:33.940 So I walk in the mall and I'm like, yo, I'm like, we got to leave.
02:00:36.940 Yeah.
02:00:37.220 This is crazy.
02:00:38.100 Imagine the highest it's as loud as possible.
02:00:41.000 I complained to them all.
02:00:42.040 They denied it.
02:00:42.640 They said, we don't do that.
02:00:43.480 That's not true.
02:00:44.380 All their speakers were doing it, man.
02:00:46.600 So Edward Teller, the father of the H bomb was on the, oh, William Buckley show, like
02:00:51.320 in the eighties.
02:00:51.820 And he was talking about the star Wars strategic defense initiative under Reagan using these
02:00:56.120 direct energy weapons.
02:00:56.920 And he explicitly stated in this clip, which is on YouTube that he said, he goes, the, the
02:01:02.060 public academic community thought direct energy weapons were not possible because the physics
02:01:06.160 was not doable.
02:01:06.820 And he said, he goes, after we revealed the classified equations to them, we showed that
02:01:10.740 it works.
02:01:11.120 And then he went on this rant where he talked about, even at the time in the late eighties,
02:01:15.180 he felt that the North American system was driving secrecy and physics far too much.
02:01:19.960 And he said, he goes, the Soviets had it.
02:01:21.800 And it's true.
02:01:22.240 If you look, the Soviet union was much more open about their, their R and D.
02:01:26.920 If I could jump in one of their suits, one of their technology, I want to kind of highlight
02:01:31.020 here as well as Salvatore Pius's patents that have been out there.
02:01:33.840 Cause we're talking about some of these advanced concepts that maybe the public doesn't know
02:01:37.180 about.
02:01:37.440 Um, and one of them is high frequency gravitational waves.
02:01:40.380 And he says that you can generate high power frequency gravitational waves by high frequency,
02:01:45.480 accelerated axial rotation and, or accelerated high frequency vibration.
02:01:50.180 Gravitational waves, uh, production by propagating electromagnetic radiation through strong
02:01:54.980 magnetic fields.
02:01:55.660 This can enable quantum coherence, macroscopic quantum coherence, namely possible quantum behavior
02:02:01.940 at macroscopic objects.
02:02:03.480 Multiple high power, high frequency gravitational waves focused on a particular point in space
02:02:07.600 time can induce a space time curvature singularity.
02:02:11.620 You can generate a well in the flight path of the plane, similar flight path of an object
02:02:15.580 and controlled motion of charge matter under rapid acceleration transits may lead to room
02:02:19.820 temperature superconductivity.
02:02:21.580 Nuclear fusion may be engineered.
02:02:23.040 And finally, engine energy may be amplified to such a high degree to generate space time
02:02:28.060 curvature singularity leading to the total destruction of a planetoid or asteroid.
02:02:31.920 I'm going to be, I'm, I'm really excited for when I have to apologize to Don Lemon.
02:02:37.300 That's the sigh off.
02:02:38.180 I got it.
02:02:38.700 That's the sigh off.
02:02:39.640 Is for all media to go and say, you know what?
02:02:42.980 Don Lemon was right.
02:02:43.640 Cause we rag on him all the time.
02:02:46.040 So that's the sigh off.
02:02:47.160 It's all one big, long multi-decade joke on us.
02:02:51.680 And when it's over, I'm like, no, that was, it was just a joke.
02:02:53.120 Is Don Lemon behind this video?
02:02:55.240 If I could, if I could very quickly just help simplify slash translate some of what, what
02:02:59.540 Ashton said there.
02:03:00.180 Oh, real quick.
02:03:00.600 And before you do, is that something he wrote in response to the video?
02:03:03.820 No, this is 2018 patent.
02:03:05.380 And actually, so what the story was that somebody said, Hey, you should reach out to Salvador
02:03:08.220 Pius and I had remembered these patents.
02:03:09.980 They're called UFO patents.
02:03:10.980 Although I think that's a little bit, um, you know, does disservice to him.
02:03:14.080 Right.
02:03:14.420 And he, I get an email back like the next morning, like, Hey, set up a podcast.
02:03:17.880 So now I created my own podcast called hard truths just because I wanted to interview him.
02:03:21.760 And now I've interviewed him three different times or actually two different times.
02:03:25.160 One with Dave Rossi as well, where we did a panel as well.
02:03:28.640 And, you know, he has the same approach that Dave did, which is that, okay, well, somebody
02:03:31.680 faked this.
02:03:32.260 They're like literally showing my, the technology and the patents that I've put out.
02:03:35.820 So the idea is that electromagnetically, um, if certain conditions could be met, then from
02:03:41.260 that you can have sort of, uh, how can I put this?
02:03:44.180 Um, you can, you can, the same way that a male and female come together to give birth
02:03:48.420 to a child, for example, the way that electromagnetism would come together to then birth a new particle,
02:03:53.340 which when many cases would be a graviton.
02:03:55.980 So in other words, you're using light electricity and magnetism to trans, to meet certain conditions,
02:04:00.760 to transform it into a certain type of energy that would enable.
02:04:04.740 And so just so I'm clear, you're saying that what you're saying is then applied to the image
02:04:10.620 of the orbs in the video, correct, correct, circling.
02:04:13.240 And then you think they're creating, uh, is it bulk modular when you're condensing something,
02:04:16.620 uh, to disappear it before it disappears?
02:04:19.640 They're inducing a form of, of, yeah, pulse width modulation.
02:04:22.580 And we could say as well, a form of parent parametric resonance to, to, to allow for the
02:04:28.580 object, the matter of the object itself to begin to fluctuate.
02:04:32.020 And then it'll expand, contract, and then it would disappear whether annihilator teleports
02:04:35.980 a different story.
02:04:36.700 And that's a theory that's been out there.
02:04:38.220 And then it's possible then that people saw that and made that video.
02:04:41.280 And this is why it speaks to this notion of what's called gravido electromagnetism.
02:04:45.480 Now, with that said, there's also been a lot of, uh, we could say fringe theories that don't
02:04:49.540 work, but the idea is that electromagnetism and gravity have a direct connection and that
02:04:53.760 some think it's been unified and that it's been held secret.
02:04:56.860 Others think it hasn't been found yet.
02:04:58.260 But, you know, it's not a lot of these science, this science has only come out since like
02:05:01.940 2020 and beyond.
02:05:02.860 Like I would actually argue that we couldn't even understand the videos to be, begin to
02:05:05.660 be real until 2020, maybe 2023 today.
02:05:07.960 But then that falls in with my theory of the government making it.
02:05:09.760 Cause then the government, if you want to say it's 50 years ahead of what we know about,
02:05:12.700 they would then slow roll this thing out knowing it's a fair 10, 20 years, we're going
02:05:16.520 to do this, that technology that we're, you know, is 50 years ahead of what people know
02:05:19.900 about.
02:05:20.300 We're going to start inserting it into the collective consciousness.
02:05:22.700 And so, yeah.
02:05:24.120 And like, even like the ER equals EPR has been out there since 2013, but the idea of
02:05:28.660 having traversable wormholes where somebody can actually go through a wormhole and not
02:05:31.700 die from.
02:05:32.440 ER equals EPR has been else, I think since like the thirties, since Einstein published it.
02:05:35.760 Yeah.
02:05:36.100 Wow.
02:05:36.360 But yeah.
02:05:36.960 In terms of like the combination of the theories and what have you.
02:05:40.340 It takes society a long time to, especially the scientific, the theoretical physicists to
02:05:44.760 begrudgingly accept certain effects, whether it's like Aronoff-Bohm, it took them like 30
02:05:49.100 years to accept that.
02:05:49.960 Right.
02:05:50.380 Can you describe, like when you say, uh, transversable wormholes, what do you mean?
02:05:54.880 There's a, there's actually a popular mechanics, uh, article out there that references three
02:05:58.680 different papers that I read.
02:06:00.260 Um, and actually went through and read the papers, not just their summary of them, but
02:06:02.860 they basically say that you don't need exotic matter to create a wormhole and that a human
02:06:06.440 could survive going through a wormhole that the gravitational forces wouldn't rip you to
02:06:09.780 shreds.
02:06:10.400 And then the third one says you could actually create a double-sided shell, probably electromagnetic
02:06:14.340 shell around an object to allow the whole object to go through it.
02:06:17.600 Right.
02:06:17.700 And why that's important is in order to go through a wormhole, you need negative energy,
02:06:20.880 uh, negative mass, negative, negative mass, negative energy, because otherwise it's like
02:06:24.020 trying to fit your butt through the, through a door.
02:06:25.680 And the way you get that is by curving space-time.
02:06:28.000 And so the thing is, if you can reduce the mass of the object by creating that bubble around
02:06:30.960 it.
02:06:31.120 So now its mass has become zero.
02:06:32.260 Now you've solved all the problems.
02:06:33.300 Now you can get it to go through the wormhole.
02:06:35.120 Right.
02:06:35.680 Um, the other thing that we needed, which is just to be fully transparent.
02:06:38.280 Sorry, you've also found an answer to everything, a unified field theory.
02:06:40.920 Right.
02:06:41.480 Yeah.
02:06:41.640 Just to be transparent though, like I've been sitting out here going, when I just looked
02:06:44.260 at these as a non-scientist, as non-PhD, and they said that we need these papers to
02:06:49.260 make this make sense.
02:06:50.040 We need this information about this Trump satellite picture to make sense.
02:06:52.620 We also need room temperature superconductivity for it to make sense.
02:06:55.160 LK-99.
02:06:56.160 Right.
02:06:56.360 Um, and then the last thing is we need to understand chat GPT AI is something that's
02:07:00.460 real.
02:07:00.620 Cause when we see these orbs circling the plane, there's not like little aliens or even
02:07:04.020 people in those orbs.
02:07:04.840 It's way too exact that pattern.
02:07:06.300 It's a computer program that's running that.
02:07:08.560 And this is what I think is so compelling to me is that I'm just throwing this stuff
02:07:12.220 out there.
02:07:12.500 And then I've got these engineers and scientists coming to me going, oh, you're proving my theories.
02:07:16.100 And I'm going, okay, well, I was just guessing.
02:07:17.860 So wow.
02:07:18.760 What if, uh, what if MH370 was just deleted by the programmers running the simulation?
02:07:24.600 Fair.
02:07:24.800 He has highlighted and clicked delete.
02:07:26.080 Fair.
02:07:26.600 And it really, this science has come to like, it just becomes magic at some point, right?
02:07:30.300 If we are in a matrix, like it is like being in a video game and just pulling your cheat
02:07:33.540 codes up, God mode turned on.
02:07:34.800 Okay.
02:07:34.900 I can just delete whatever I want.
02:07:36.100 I can move it.
02:07:37.060 And that's what's scary about this.
02:07:38.180 And this is what I'd kind of lead into for Dave as well is that, you know, this type of
02:07:42.100 technology, all the stuff we've been talking about is related faster than light communication,
02:07:45.160 the ability to be able to teleport an object, be able to cloak an object, be able to create
02:07:48.380 an energy field of some sort, fusion power, especially portable fusion.
02:07:51.640 There are some genuine concerns with it because if you, you know, you make something in your garage
02:07:55.360 using this type of aspect of physics and you want to make something for, you know, a hoverboard,
02:07:59.880 for example, with an afternoon worth of adjustment, it could be weaponized and that becomes a
02:08:04.260 doomsday weapon, right?
02:08:05.220 That's why I'm here to say today, we need to shut down a large hadron collider and all
02:08:09.980 particle smashers.
02:08:10.740 So if you think something bad comes out of some guys, shut them down.
02:08:13.780 I said, turn it up.
02:08:14.600 Yeah.
02:08:15.260 Exactly.
02:08:16.560 Wow.
02:08:17.200 I was like, I want to shoot a particle accelerator through a toroidal magnetic field.
02:08:23.120 And I just want to break the fabric of space time.
02:08:24.920 Let's just make it happen.
02:08:26.120 All right.
02:08:26.240 You guys don't have kids, I guess.
02:08:28.040 No.
02:08:28.880 So one thing I want to propose to Dave too, though, is that, you know, something he's told
02:08:32.320 me is that, you know, they have to have psychologists on staff for the people that are doing
02:08:36.160 these types of experiments behind closed doors.
02:08:38.080 When you're in compartmentalized programs, there's staff psychologists.
02:08:40.600 You're doing stuff that's so advanced, like these technologies that we're talking about.
02:08:43.120 And then you're going and getting your gas powered car, driving to your house, you know,
02:08:46.320 fueled by normal power of energy.
02:08:47.140 It becomes a mind trip, especially when you leave a lab for after eight, nine hours, and
02:08:51.240 you've been working on stuff that is considered impossible, FTL community, et cetera.
02:08:55.160 I mean, look at Tesla all those years ago.
02:08:56.740 Right.
02:08:57.020 This is the thing, right.
02:08:58.460 You guys think that they have anti-matter weapons?
02:09:00.820 Yes.
02:09:01.380 Well, we were just talking about that beforehand, you know, and I think that a lot of this stuff kind
02:09:04.640 of goes back to what's the implications of this?
02:09:06.600 Like, honestly, if that wasn't MH370 in those videos, I'd go, you know what?
02:09:10.360 I really don't want to be exposing this.
02:09:11.980 If this is some kind of super weapon that we have, the United States is hiding.
02:09:14.880 Like, I'm a patriot.
02:09:15.980 I want to have, make sure that that stuff stays quiet.
02:09:18.320 But I imagine if these videos are real, then China and Russia figured that out and they've
02:09:22.120 been reverse engineering.
02:09:23.040 Maybe if it's a PSYOP, they've been thrown off the trail.
02:09:25.160 I think I would not be surprised if we have anti-matter explosives at the bare minimum.
02:09:32.440 And anti-matter explosives is like the most rudimentary form of weaponization of anti-matter.
02:09:37.780 I think that what we see in the film Tenet, for example, like the reverse form of weaponry
02:09:42.120 and even behave, like movement of everything.
02:09:44.360 I think that's, yeah, I think we have that for sure.
02:09:47.200 Reverse entropy?
02:09:47.920 Reverse entropy, reverse entropy.
02:09:49.540 Well, it's not even really negative entropy.
02:09:51.340 Because negative entropy would still flow in forward time.
02:09:55.780 It would be inverted entropy.
02:09:57.680 Like an anti-forward flow, if that makes sense.
02:10:00.180 Either way, we're dealing with stuff that's like, you know, we're not talking about, and
02:10:04.380 I think from the ufology perspective, when I talk, now I'm apparently in the UFO community,
02:10:08.240 when I talk to these UFO kind of research and stuff, I always ask them the same question.
02:10:12.240 Would you still be for disclosure if it meant weapons that could, not just like nuke weapons
02:10:16.500 that would destroy a city, but one person, an ISIS terrorist, pressing a button, blowing
02:10:20.780 up the whole planet, right?
02:10:22.320 Like, would you still be for it?
02:10:23.520 Or where's the line?
02:10:24.500 Even on a, before what?
02:10:26.060 Before you say, okay, I don't want to reveal this anymore.
02:10:27.980 I assure you, 100% of people working on these super weapons will tell you, if I don't do
02:10:36.180 it, someone else will.
02:10:36.820 Exactly.
02:10:37.540 Yep.
02:10:37.800 Better I have it than me.
02:10:38.400 I'm told that all the time.
02:10:39.320 That's the response I get back from a lot of them, is that it's up to us as humanity
02:10:42.320 and our own kind of will to determine what we do with this technology.
02:10:45.920 If we make it and we destroy ourselves, then that's our fate, you know?
02:10:48.720 And maybe that's the answer to the great filter and the Fermi paradox, is that any sufficiently
02:10:52.480 advanced civilization figures out how quantum and macro unification technology works,
02:10:57.120 and now we can create doomsday weapons and then they just destroy themselves, right?
02:10:59.940 Maybe that's why we don't see them when we look up there.
02:11:01.120 It's, it's, it's, it's not even just that.
02:11:02.660 Uh, you know, I, I think it's a very human thing to say that we'll blow each other up
02:11:06.880 because humans have war.
02:11:08.080 Yeah.
02:11:08.320 But it could be something substantially simpler than that.
02:11:11.360 We have fire.
02:11:12.580 Yeah.
02:11:12.960 And, uh, forests can burn down and kill everything within it.
02:11:16.180 It may not be that the great filter is any sufficiently advanced, uh, species develops bombs
02:11:21.040 to blow themselves up.
02:11:21.880 Any sufficiently advanced species accidentally discovers the chemical reaction between insert
02:11:26.380 element and insert element, which results in total annihilation.
02:11:29.820 So it could be akin to a fire.
02:11:32.040 A guy is sitting in the woods and, you know, he's, he's playing with flint rocks because
02:11:36.640 like caveman and he's just whacking them and he's seeing the spark.
02:11:39.540 He doesn't know what they are.
02:11:40.100 And he's like, wow.
02:11:40.820 And he hits it and then fire starts.
02:11:42.940 Whole forest burns down in mass and just wipes out his entire village and all of his people.
02:11:46.660 And then he's, he, I have no idea what just happened.
02:11:48.900 I hit these rocks together and then everything just was destroyed in a blaze of fire.
02:11:53.340 It could be a scientist who was working in a laboratory and he goes, Hey, we've got this
02:11:58.420 interesting new, uh, you know, high energy, high density substance that we're going to
02:12:02.380 try and mix with this chemical.
02:12:03.360 And then, and then all of a sudden the air starts, just the gas particles solidify and
02:12:08.420 condense.
02:12:09.460 And then all the atmosphere just collapses and the earth is just a barren rock.
02:12:13.760 And then everyone dies instantly.
02:12:14.960 Well, even from that perspective as well, if we were to scale it down even a little bit,
02:12:17.840 there have been in the past, uh, patents that have been filed in Canada, America, et cetera,
02:12:21.400 that induce what's called coefficient of performance over one.
02:12:25.120 In other words, you put one or two Watts in and you get say nine or 10 Watts coming out,
02:12:28.780 right?
02:12:29.120 Some people have said in the past, you know, it's not possible because perpetual motion
02:12:32.440 is not possible, et cetera, et cetera.
02:12:34.020 The point being ultimately, regardless how you look at it, if, if there have been individuals
02:12:37.980 that have made that and powered their homes off of those devices, what does that say
02:12:41.880 about the power companies that you'd have to rely on?
02:12:43.740 Well, I think, I think typically what we see with those stories is that there's an energy,
02:12:48.660 there's an energy, um, uh, source that is not being, uh, quickly understood, like easily
02:12:54.860 understood.
02:12:55.380 So for example, there's, uh, uh, there are people who have made perpetual motion machines
02:12:59.780 and you're like, that's solar energy.
02:13:02.180 Well, there's solar.
02:13:03.220 And then there's also, if I could say quickly, there's also a magnetic and acoustic components
02:13:06.940 where if you can recycle the magnetic flux within a system, you could.
02:13:10.900 And, and, and electromagnets work better than this.
02:13:14.080 The reason why static magnets don't work is because they're pulling equally in, in both
02:13:17.180 directions, but they're, you'll watch these videos online.
02:13:19.900 And I watched one where it's a guy like he built a wheel that keeps spinning, like keeps
02:13:23.580 going.
02:13:24.160 And then quickly, the first comment is like, what's happening is light is hitting the top
02:13:29.260 portion, which is causing, you know, energy to expand, causing it to move.
02:13:33.380 So it's not, it's, it's a great way to convert solar energy, but you are not creating perpetual
02:13:37.460 motion.
02:13:38.160 So as for the systems you're describing, it may just be that we're like, Hey, look, we're
02:13:40.880 getting this positive reaction.
02:13:41.900 And it's like, well, the energy is coming from somewhere.
02:13:43.660 It's certainly, well, the idea would be that the energy would have to come from somewhere.
02:13:47.060 The question is, is in certain cases, is it coming from the sun?
02:13:49.600 Absolutely.
02:13:50.300 Photosynthesis, we can argue is a perfect example of quantum entanglement and all of
02:13:53.800 that.
02:13:54.060 But also the idea is one can, yeah.
02:13:57.220 I was photosynthesis entanglement.
02:13:58.460 So the idea, if we go back to the shooting a laser beam through that fishbowl of water,
02:14:03.520 essentially the idea is that photons that are coming from the sun, they begin to hit and
02:14:07.260 come into the atmosphere.
02:14:08.180 And then the same way that they run through the, the quantum vacuum by kinetically being
02:14:12.860 emitted, reabsorbed, emitted, reabsorbed.
02:14:14.640 So there's a kinetic component there, which deals with the, what's called the kinematic
02:14:18.200 viscosity of the space-time metric.
02:14:19.860 And eventually the photons will hit the plants and then those plants will eventually, the
02:14:24.540 photons will leave from those and then re-emit into something else into the quantum vacuum.
02:14:28.320 But where does the entanglement happen?
02:14:29.920 Basically, the idea is that it's all around us.
02:14:31.960 We just can't observe it, which speaks to, which is what would give rise to the effects
02:14:36.040 of what make UAPs work and all of that.
02:14:37.840 Using the quantum vacuum, the zero point as it's been called, et cetera, of the energy
02:14:42.860 that's all around us.
02:14:43.640 Right now there's magnetic fluxes and electric fluxes all around us right now.
02:14:46.860 Right, right, right.
02:14:47.140 But entanglement specifically between particles.
02:14:49.000 Right, exactly.
02:14:50.220 So in other words, what happens is that the particles emit the fields, the fields emit
02:14:54.420 the particles to fluctuate.
02:14:55.540 The idea is that the entanglement's always happening all around us right now.
02:14:58.560 That's the notion.
02:14:59.760 Now, sorry, if I could say very quickly, one of the concerns, or one of the issues is
02:15:03.760 that when you take theoretical physicists, especially the older ones, let's say, and they
02:15:08.740 have no problem talking about it on paper, but the second you translate it into a laboratory
02:15:12.300 experiment, they lose their shit.
02:15:13.840 So it becomes more of a cognitive dissonance with the old guard and the young generation.
02:15:19.000 One thing I just want to add on to is I was watching a Bob Lazar video the other day,
02:15:22.380 whether or not you believe him or not.
02:15:23.540 He has a really good point about, you know, back in the day, if you were to take people
02:15:27.260 from, let's say, the Salem Witch Trials era, and you were to show them nuclear technology,
02:15:31.080 they would go in there and they would look at it and they would all start dying from
02:15:33.940 it because of the radiation, right?
02:15:35.260 Right, right.
02:15:35.400 And they would think, oh, well, it's possessed by demons, right?
02:15:37.700 And then they would go ahead and burn people at the stake or whatever the case is.
02:15:41.340 It's like, we have to remember that any sufficiently advanced technology is going to be
02:15:44.260 indistinguishable from magic to us, right?
02:15:45.860 And to your point about what you're saying with the rocks and what have you, it's like,
02:15:48.800 okay, yeah, now if we start messing around with the wrong thing, we might start having
02:15:51.860 effects happen, people start dying, we might not even realize what the implications of
02:15:54.940 that are.
02:15:55.460 And as I think we've all seen from what Dave Rossi has been explaining to us here today
02:15:58.620 is that, you know, from a normie perspective, my perspective is like, man, this is way over
02:16:02.380 my head to even understand.
02:16:03.420 Like I could easily, if I was messing around with it, hurt myself without knowing, right?
02:16:06.360 I'll try and translate it into something that's probably not correct, but like to attribute,
02:16:10.740 to make it more understandable, the concept of combustion or ignition, the point at which
02:16:16.300 the energy of, we're talking about like carbon and oxygen will sink, emit energy, we get fire.
02:16:23.220 You then have, or, you know, hydrocarbons have carbon in it.
02:16:26.780 And in terms of what we're doing with the Large Hadron Collider, for all we know, there
02:16:31.420 could be a, an atomic ignition point at which atoms break and release a ton of energy, causing
02:16:39.140 the atoms around them to break and release a ton of energy, a chain reaction in which
02:16:43.480 some guy in the lab says, let's crank this up as high as possible and see what happens.
02:16:47.660 And then he creates a particle of a certain degree of energy, which emits energy.
02:16:51.860 And then everything around it starts reaching the same temperature.
02:16:54.660 And then you won't even realize everything is just breaking.
02:16:59.140 That was like in the Oppenheimer film, they show in the film, Oppenheimer, that there
02:17:02.520 was at one point, a, a, a theory, a proposal that if they even did the nuclear test of
02:17:06.920 the atom bomb, it would set off a chain reaction that ignited the atmosphere.
02:17:10.000 Right.
02:17:10.340 And the whole, there was that lawsuit against CERN in like 2008 to prevent it from turning
02:17:15.740 on because there was other physicists who believed it was going to create a black hole
02:17:18.600 and suck us into that.
02:17:19.980 But they also were saying, if it doesn't do that, it'll turn the earth into a one pole system
02:17:24.300 and create what they call the sphere of strangeness, which I believe is where we are.
02:17:28.160 The sphere of strangeness.
02:17:29.240 The sphere of strangeness is where we are.
02:17:31.700 Let's get in here.
02:17:32.400 Get postcards.
02:17:33.260 Welcome to the sphere of strangeness.
02:17:34.660 You know, everybody knows what happened.
02:17:36.080 I mean, Hillary Clinton was getting ready for her major victory.
02:17:39.700 Then the mad scientists at the Hadron Collider fired it up.
02:17:43.060 A pulse of, of reality altering energy rippled through the universe.
02:17:47.960 And then all the numbers got switched and Donald Trump won.
02:17:51.000 Yeah.
02:17:51.360 The guy with the reality show became a TV.
02:17:53.140 Right.
02:17:53.680 The TV president, real president.
02:17:55.520 Right.
02:17:55.880 It's great.
02:17:56.400 I'm just waiting for when the sphere of strangeness, you know, gives people superpowers or something.
02:18:01.300 Cause now we're talking.
02:18:01.780 We might have them.
02:18:02.400 We just don't know how to use them yet.
02:18:03.380 We've got to unlock it.
02:18:04.940 Yeah.
02:18:05.260 But that would mean like, we're talking about, you know, stupid powers, like premonitions
02:18:09.960 or something.
02:18:10.600 Now I want to see a dude turn to a guy made of ice and like, then make a slide and slide
02:18:15.080 around.
02:18:15.480 A bit of a side thing very quickly is that in the, I think it was the seventies or in the eighties
02:18:20.020 where someone had gone to someone had taken a multimeter, like just a voltage reader, right?
02:18:24.140 To go, uh, to the Vatican where a bunch of people were praying that day.
02:18:27.620 And the thing spiked like crazy when people started praying.
02:18:30.080 So clearly there's something there with the human bio field and I, I, but I think prayer
02:18:34.740 is real.
02:18:35.420 Sorry.
02:18:35.980 I think, I think the power of prayer is real.
02:18:37.320 Oh, I think.
02:18:37.720 But I think the mistake a lot of atheists make is they assume prayer means beseeching
02:18:41.540 God.
02:18:42.160 Whereas I just mean like the collective force of consciousness.
02:18:45.140 Yes.
02:18:45.340 Right.
02:18:45.860 And call that prayer, call it for, for those that are religious, it is, you know, connecting
02:18:51.040 with God.
02:18:51.780 And for those that are atheists, it is the combined consciousness or whatever, man.
02:18:55.560 Yeah.
02:18:55.840 You know, you know, one thing I'll just, we're a little bit over, but I'll, I'll throw
02:18:58.980 one last thing out there.
02:19:00.800 Energy cannot be changed.
02:19:02.420 I'm sorry.
02:19:02.920 Energy cannot be created or destroyed, only changed.
02:19:04.640 I agree.
02:19:04.900 And then I love when, uh, so what happens to the energy that makes up you when you die?
02:19:09.300 Yeah.
02:19:10.000 It changes, dissipates.
02:19:11.600 One last thing I'll say is that, you know, as part of this investigation, looking at the
02:19:14.320 science of it, I've actually become more spiritual.
02:19:16.440 I don't think that there is any inconsistency between religion and science actually, you
02:19:21.060 know, because of those types of things that you just mentioned.
02:19:23.140 What if it's like, Tim, to your question, what if it's like the same way you pour a bucket
02:19:26.620 of water into the ocean and it kind of just immerses with the rest of it?
02:19:30.060 What if that, that's kind of, yeah.
02:19:32.960 Yeah.
02:19:33.360 Things die and come back.
02:19:34.480 Like I, yeah, the sort of recycle price, but I also believe in the seasons, obviously,
02:19:38.280 and the trees die and they come right back.
02:19:40.200 They come back.
02:19:40.600 Yeah.
02:19:40.660 So I think we've, we've solved it.
02:19:42.520 Yeah.
02:19:42.840 It's done.
02:19:43.140 It's over.
02:19:43.720 We're actually going to walk out now and show everyone the plane.
02:19:45.940 We brought it here through the portal.
02:19:47.360 No, no.
02:19:47.760 I'm what's going to happen now is as we wrap this show up and just shrug and say, man,
02:19:51.580 I, it's, if, if only we really knew, uh, once we leave, we're all going to talk
02:19:56.220 about what really happened.
02:19:56.960 Cause we all really, you know, this show is fake.
02:19:59.680 This show, I got, I got, I got a script right over here from the, uh, from the government
02:20:04.140 as to, should we tell them you're a deep fake this whole time or?
02:20:06.680 We made that joke all the time, but we did, we did one bit where, uh, Jack Posobiec shows
02:20:11.760 up at the castle with the scripts for Timcast IRL and they're like massive cause it's two
02:20:16.660 and a half hours of conversation.
02:20:18.600 And then we had, we actually have it somewhere.
02:20:20.900 The fake, the fake Timcast IRL script.
02:20:23.240 Oh, it's in the other room.
02:20:24.220 Yeah.
02:20:24.740 Now the next thing is they'll just find the plane next week.
02:20:26.880 All of a sudden after 10 years, like you guys have been talking a little too much about
02:20:29.400 it.
02:20:29.560 You say that and we still can't even believe that.
02:20:31.040 Cause what you're saying would you tell us this?
02:20:32.480 Like we'll just keep going on and on and on.
02:20:34.440 It doesn't end.
02:20:35.120 It doesn't end.
02:20:36.100 Right.
02:20:36.620 Do you guys want to, we're going to wrap up.
02:20:38.140 Do you want to shout anything out before we go?
02:20:39.940 Um, I would just say, you know, if you want to investigate, come along with investigation,
02:20:42.900 check out my Twitter account, check out my YouTube account.
02:20:44.700 I've been streaming pretty much every night cause I want to have, be fully transparent
02:20:48.060 about everything I'm doing.
02:20:48.780 Cause I don't want people to think that I'm some government agent or whatever.
02:20:51.480 So at just X Ashton, if you want to check that out, um, I also want to shout out everybody
02:20:56.060 related to MH370X.
02:20:57.920 Thank you guys very much for investigating along with us today.
02:21:00.280 Um, very quickly, patreon.com slash generation Zed.
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02:21:17.200 And I want to thank you guys so much for, for having us.
02:21:19.520 It's such a fun conversation.
02:21:20.800 It was very fun.
02:21:21.660 Thank you so much.
02:21:22.120 I remember where I was when this plane went missing and I love talking about synchronicities.
02:21:26.060 Right.
02:21:26.460 I was in Brooklyn where I lived at the time with my wife, then girlfriend.
02:21:30.160 And we sat down for dinner for the first time ever at a Malaysian restaurant.
02:21:34.760 And then on the TV in that restaurant, the Malaysian plane goes missing.
02:21:39.460 Wow.
02:21:40.040 Yeah.
02:21:40.260 Pretty bizarre stuff.
02:21:41.280 But I'm, I'm Shane Cashman.
02:21:42.960 It's great talking to you guys.
02:21:43.900 I'm writer for scanner.com.
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