The Culture War - Tim Pool - May 28, 2025


UFO CAPTURED, Chilling WARNING Issued Of BUGHA Sphere ft. Ashton Forbes

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Bugha Sphere quantum communication systems quantum communication patents & EM drive
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In this episode of Conspiracy Theories, host Tim Perla is joined by Ashton Forbes to discuss the Bugha Sphere, a mysterious object found in Colombia, and the MH370 footage that has been circulating around the internet for months.

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00:00:00.360 Take a look at this from the Daily Mail.
00:00:02.960 Scientist delivers ominous message to humanity after UFO covered in strange writing is found.
00:00:10.120 I saw this, and it's this like metal sphere. I wonder if I can play the video.
00:00:13.780 El jueves primero de mayo del dos mil veinticinco, el señor José Luis Velázquez, especialista.
00:00:18.440 Okay, it's all Spanish. I don't know. I'm not going to. 1.00
00:00:20.460 He's performed a series of tests on what's called the Bugha Sphere,
00:00:24.040 which fell to Earth after receiving a 10,000 volt charge.
00:00:29.180 The images obtained yielded surprising results.
00:00:32.760 Inside, you can see a dense layer surrounding the white outline.
00:00:37.800 I don't know that this is real. Maybe it's fake.
00:00:40.580 This is an image. It's got strange symbols on it.
00:00:42.680 I don't know why it needs to have those strange symbols on it.
00:00:45.340 Interestingly, there's been a viral video going on for some time that many claim is debunked,
00:00:50.580 showing orbs circling an airplane.
00:00:53.320 Now we have this story from Colombia of a so-called UFO in the town of Bugha,
00:00:58.440 zigzagging through the sky.
00:01:00.240 They say it was struck by powerful energy, fell down, and this is what we got.
00:01:05.760 Interesting.
00:01:07.240 Scientists have been analyzing it, and it's got three layers of metal-like material
00:01:10.980 in 18 microspheres surrounding a central nucleus they are calling a chip.
00:01:15.320 Now, I'm not sure if aliens exist.
00:01:18.560 We had Eric Burleson, the rep, on several times, a couple times in the past couple of weeks,
00:01:23.800 as he discussed his hearings on UFOs.
00:01:26.880 I'm a skeptic.
00:01:29.060 Aliens could be hiding from us, perhaps.
00:01:30.700 I mean, do geese understand what we are?
00:01:32.480 They can see us.
00:01:33.280 I don't know.
00:01:34.120 Do ants?
00:01:35.140 Maybe they're aliens that have the technology that we can't see them.
00:01:39.500 Maybe they can move interdimensionally.
00:01:40.780 Who knows?
00:01:41.560 I'll tell you what I think is more likely.
00:01:43.900 In this article from some time ago, U.S. government announces it has achieved ability to manipulate
00:01:49.120 space and time with new technology.
00:01:52.840 And that's where things got interesting.
00:01:55.000 Let me play this clip.
00:01:55.740 The well-intentioned regulatory regime of the 1970s became an ever-tightening ratchet,
00:02:02.260 first hampering America's ability to become a net energy exporter and then making it harder
00:02:07.100 and harder to build.
00:02:09.440 We seem to have lost focus and vision, to have lowered our sights and let systems and structures
00:02:15.200 and bureaucracies muddle us along.
00:02:17.640 But we are capable of so much more.
00:02:20.280 Our technologies permit us to manipulate time and space.
00:02:25.040 They leave distance annihilated, cause things to grow and improve productivity.
00:02:30.140 The well-intentioned...
00:02:30.740 Very, very interesting.
00:02:32.920 So, let's dive into this.
00:02:35.860 I'm going to bring in our guest now, Ashton Forbes, who's generated a lot of attention
00:02:40.360 talking about these issues.
00:02:42.720 I believe we have this loading up now.
00:02:45.300 Usually takes a quick second, but bear with me.
00:02:47.620 And, Ashton, can you hear me?
00:02:49.940 Yeah, how's it going, Tim?
00:02:51.540 How's it going?
00:02:53.040 Oh, it's going, man.
00:02:54.080 It's going.
00:02:55.240 Four orbs I see floating behind you on that wall.
00:02:58.560 So, have you seen this story coming out of Colombia of the Bugha Sphere?
00:03:03.480 Yeah, I've seen it.
00:03:04.320 A lot of people ask me about it.
00:03:05.420 They ask me, is that the thing inside of those orbs spinning around the plane?
00:03:08.700 And I tell people, I don't think so, but I don't really know, cause I can't tell what's
00:03:12.380 inside the orbs.
00:03:14.260 Right.
00:03:14.600 So, this is interesting because you've been tracking, you've had this video that you've
00:03:19.100 been analyzing for some time.
00:03:20.440 You've been putting out information that you believe this is, the video that we're getting
00:03:25.240 is some kind of government's, what is it, infrared technology for video or something?
00:03:30.280 Do you want to explain that?
00:03:30.860 Yeah, so I've been exposing the MH370 videos.
00:03:34.900 I don't know if you can share what I show here.
00:03:37.200 I'll show the screen.
00:03:38.100 But these MH370 videos, the biggest revelation that has come along recently is that this is
00:03:43.860 Gorgon Stare.
00:03:44.940 Air Force's Gorgon Stare technology in one of these videos that people think is fake.
00:03:50.600 They think it's, I don't know, whatever, Unreal Engine, Armor 3, Call of Duty or whatever.
00:03:54.540 It's not any of those things.
00:03:55.980 Those MH370 videos are real leaked military footage.
00:04:00.160 The big revelation was finding out is Gorgon Stare Wide Area Motion Imagery.
00:04:04.980 That's why we see the video move around.
00:04:07.580 And that's why we're seeing a low frame rate.
00:04:10.180 That's why we see the coordinates in the bottom left update in a higher frame rate than what
00:04:14.300 we see the actual background move around in.
00:04:17.120 And I had multiple sources confirm to me that the video is actually Gorgon Stare.
00:04:23.220 So, anyone that doesn't think so, I mean, it's simple to confirm it.
00:04:26.480 All you have to do is just talk to somebody in the Air Force and they can confirm that
00:04:29.800 that's legitimate.
00:04:30.860 So, this is a video of, this is research you've had going back to MH370.
00:04:35.840 Were you doing this research before those videos came out?
00:04:39.140 No.
00:04:39.780 That was just something that when I saw those videos, saw that they seemed to be authentic.
00:04:44.420 I dug into it, researched it.
00:04:47.060 That's when you invited me back on the show back in, I think it was January of 2024.
00:04:51.880 And the reason why I wanted to talk to you is that you had said that you had a source
00:04:55.480 that told you that we have faster than light communication.
00:04:58.980 Yep.
00:04:59.320 And if those videos were real, which now I know for sure they are, then that, I knew that
00:05:03.680 must be real as well.
00:05:04.760 And that's the exact same science that is on display in those videos.
00:05:09.400 Quantum tunneling, faster than light communication, we're seeing that just scaled up in the video.
00:05:15.200 So, for those that are not familiar, just to make sure we give you guys the proper context,
00:05:18.500 MH370, of course, that was the Malaysian airliner, went missing?
00:05:22.880 Yep.
00:05:23.640 So, MH370, Malaysian airliner goes, disappears March 8th, 2014.
00:05:29.000 Never seen again.
00:05:30.320 We get a few pieces of debris wash up in Africa. 0.99
00:05:33.760 Everybody admits there must be some cover-up going on.
00:05:36.560 Planes can't just disappear.
00:05:37.680 Planes should leave a massive debris field if it crashes into the ocean.
00:05:41.900 And it's taken me two years to figure out what really happened.
00:05:45.000 And now I think I'm fairly confident that what it was, was not just a simple covert operation.
00:05:51.700 It was a counter-espionage operation.
00:05:54.580 The person responsible, the people responsible for MH370 is China. 0.88
00:05:58.240 China was trying to steal our technology.
00:06:00.260 And the CIA in the United States said, that's not going to happen.
00:06:03.460 And you say, well, that's kind of crazy.
00:06:05.020 They would target a civilian airliner for something like that.
00:06:07.860 Well, welcome to the price that it takes to keep us safe in America.
00:06:11.060 But you believe that, so there's this video, there's two videos, and they show orbs,
00:06:16.980 circle, it's four orbs circling around the plane?
00:06:21.020 So it's actually three orbs circling around the plane.
00:06:23.640 The fourth orb, if you remember, Dave Rossi was the person I brought with me on your show
00:06:28.060 in January of 2024.
00:06:29.820 He's a defense contractor.
00:06:31.120 He's the one that came up with the idea, in theory, that there's a fourth orb that
00:06:34.840 determines the entanglement.
00:06:35.980 They entangle the three orbs to the fourth orbs location, and that's how it determines
00:06:41.740 the vector of where it's actually going to go.
00:06:45.020 And I actually found out what the orbs are, too, in the last two years.
00:06:48.800 I couldn't believe I would find it, but I'm just going to read off this paper and what
00:06:53.220 it's called.
00:06:53.660 This is by Frank Mead, who is Air Force Research Labs, 2006.
00:06:57.520 It's propulsion and power generation capabilities of a future dense plasma focus fusion system
00:07:05.200 for future military aerospace applications.
00:07:09.000 And it says what this can be used for is a dense plasma fusion and propulsion technology
00:07:14.380 with an advanced lifting body airframe utilizing air-breathing magnetohydrodynamics, which means
00:07:21.500 it just zaps the air and uses it as energy, to produce a single-stage-to-orbit vehicle.
00:07:30.800 So a vehicle that can just go from the ground into orbit.
00:07:33.780 Where was this published?
00:07:36.000 What is this document?
00:07:37.740 This is a publicly available peer-reviewed research paper.
00:07:43.080 And the papers that people are going to want to read are the Air Force Research Lab papers
00:07:47.280 from the early 2000s.
00:07:48.520 That's when they figured out, between the 90s and 2000s, they figured out that plasma
00:07:52.820 can become stabilized under the right conditions.
00:07:55.640 And they looked at the Russian hypersonic, the Ajax and the scramjet designs.
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00:08:31.120 And they figured out something called perfect propulsion.
00:08:35.240 Listen to the efficiency rate of this engine from this scientific paper.
00:08:39.180 The Q factor was varied from three to six.
00:08:43.100 That's the overunity factor.
00:08:44.980 What do those mean?
00:08:45.900 That's producing three to six times excess energy.
00:08:50.520 So from a fusion reaction that we've been trying to produce publicly, to get a Q factor of three that's sustained, we'd basically have free energy on this planet.
00:08:59.520 So a Q factor of three to six in one of these orbs they're generating, resulting in gigawatts of excess power.
00:09:10.400 Thruster efficiency was varied from 90% to 100%.
00:09:16.040 What they've figured out is perfect propulsion.
00:09:19.800 So you see these orbs.
00:09:21.420 And what the orb really is, is something where it's got like a cavity that sucks in the air.
00:09:26.260 So while it's moving around, it's actually producing energy just from moving around in the sky.
00:09:31.600 And the efficiency of the engine itself is near perfect efficiency.
00:09:35.080 So the end result of this is that you have a ball of electricity that's producing essentially free energy by just moving around in this sky.
00:09:42.740 Well, you say essentially it's actually consuming matter and just converting the matter at a very efficient rate.
00:09:47.320 It's a very clever use of normal physics, exactly.
00:09:51.960 Which is most technology.
00:09:53.420 And that's what I think all this UFO stuff is going to boil down to.
00:09:55.180 Go ahead.
00:09:55.840 I was going to say that's just most technology.
00:09:57.560 We're finding better ways to efficiently convert energy or we're consistently trying to do so.
00:10:03.460 I'm skeptical.
00:10:04.420 You know what I will say is the weird thing to me, and I want to preface this one more time.
00:10:09.480 Like the reason I thought it was interesting to talk to you is we have this story of the Bugha sphere and maybe completely unrelated.
00:10:14.060 But here you have this story where in Colombia they see this giant silver sphere floating in the sky.
00:10:20.000 They knock it down, and when they scan through it, it just looks like dense metal with weird microspheres inside of it.
00:10:26.260 Maybe it's a hoax.
00:10:27.420 I don't know.
00:10:27.940 There was a story where they claimed to have found alien mummies or something.
00:10:30.420 It could all be fake.
00:10:31.180 I have no idea.
00:10:32.780 But I will say this, and this is not to get to the validity of the videos being real.
00:10:39.460 I honestly don't know.
00:10:40.080 I'm skeptical.
00:10:40.500 But I've been getting – as soon as you mentioned we're going to interview you again about this stuff, because there is one more story.
00:10:50.480 This is a science administrator for the Trump administration saying that we have the technology to manipulate time and space, which I'll talk to you in a second.
00:10:57.040 So these stories pop up, and I'm like, all right, let's talk to Ashton about what he's been working on.
00:11:02.140 I started getting hit, inundated by a bunch of people, like angry, furious.
00:11:09.160 You know, we've had flat earthers.
00:11:11.580 We did a show on the culture war where we had a flat earther, a geocentrist, and a standard physicist debate these issues.
00:11:20.160 And they asked us to pull up papers and pull up these videos.
00:11:24.160 Nobody messaged me.
00:11:25.400 Nobody tweeted at me.
00:11:26.700 Nobody attacked me.
00:11:27.780 But when you posted that we were going to talk about this, I got slammed by a bunch of people saying that I was a fraudster, that I was propping up insanity and conspiracies and lies.
00:11:36.420 And I'm like, we have a whole show called Tales from the Inverted World that just talks about Sasquatch and UFOs and ghosts.
00:11:44.940 Why is this one issue so heated that I have to, have to believe the VFX guys claim it's debunked?
00:11:53.400 I'm like, sure, I don't care.
00:11:54.560 It's fun to talk about.
00:11:55.940 But I got a wave of hate and attacks for even entertaining this.
00:12:00.400 And, you know, my view is, you know, they've got a video of an orb flying over Columbia.
00:12:04.340 We had Rep. Eric Berkelson, a congressman, have recently had hearings on UAPs where he was told by some aerospace physicist engineer that there are four species of aliens.
00:12:17.040 Again, I'm not saying I believe any of it.
00:12:18.800 But when members of Congress are having these conversations, I'm like, hey, let's talk about this space and what people think may be happening.
00:12:26.360 The backlash I found pretty interesting.
00:12:28.220 Oh, man.
00:12:29.920 Well, so I just got to tell you, I intentionally leaked that because I wanted you to see that.
00:12:35.100 I want the world to see what people are trying to do to me behind the scenes.
00:12:37.640 Because, like you said, people don't do this for Bigfoot or Flat Earth or whatever else.
00:12:41.860 I'm out here just trying to tell people we've got teleportation is real.
00:12:45.020 I'm trying to explain it.
00:12:46.200 I'm trying to solve a cold case of a missing airplane.
00:12:49.380 And people are acting like I'm, you know, the worst thing on the earth.
00:12:52.160 I'm like the fact that there's this massive disinformation campaign to try to get people to, like, believe the videos are fake and not look at them because the more you look at them, the more they're obviously real.
00:13:02.340 Like that should really tell people something.
00:13:04.060 I had Ross Colhart, News Nation anchor or, you know, a journalist, quote unquote, email Scott Roeder, the guy that did that story about the Las Vegas aliens or whatever it was, the tall aliens, emailed him because he the guy put a post up on social media.
00:13:20.620 He was supportive of me, emails him and says that he makes up stories about how my followers are sending him death threats and I'm the worst person in the world.
00:13:27.300 That's an anchor on News Nation doing that.
00:13:29.620 No way.
00:13:29.980 They were trying to say I'm a grifter.
00:13:31.100 I'm not selling anything.
00:13:32.100 They tried to say I'm crazy.
00:13:33.260 I learned quantum mechanics.
00:13:34.660 They tried to say I'm an alcoholic.
00:13:36.200 It's crazy.
00:13:36.880 I have a lot of people in my family that suffer with that.
00:13:38.580 Well, they're not very good at smearing you, I guess.
00:13:42.620 You know, that is the point.
00:13:45.040 Of all of the subjects, this one became a weird hot button issue.
00:13:48.480 And I've never cared all that much about the MH370 story.
00:13:53.060 I remember it was on CNN 24-7.
00:13:55.040 They wouldn't shut up about it.
00:13:56.060 It's like their biggest story. 1.00
00:13:57.880 And now there are people – I randomly got, like, people posting super chats on IRL saying, you're a scumbag, Tim, pushing fake videos to trick stupid people. 1.00
00:14:07.660 And I was like, what? 1.00
00:14:09.160 And I'm like, we've talked about way crazier stuff than this.
00:14:11.480 We talk about ghosts and, like, demons and stuff.
00:14:15.060 Why is this one – but let's get back into it.
00:14:17.500 I did find that interesting.
00:14:19.720 But we had that story, I think it was a month or two ago, where that science administrator for the Trump admin said, our technology allows us to manipulate time and space.
00:14:29.660 And the first thing I thought, you know, when talking to my friends and other workers, my first question was, you know, I know the answer for me.
00:14:38.060 But has anyone ever referred to any technology in common use as manipulating time and space?
00:14:44.280 No.
00:14:44.580 So is there a turn of phrase where it's like, my car goes so fast, it effectively allows me to manipulate time?
00:14:51.900 No.
00:14:53.140 There is – like, there is no common parlance to claim that planes manipulate time and space as if we're exaggerating because we can fly to London in a few hours.
00:15:03.500 It sounds like what he was saying was that our trains are slow, our cars are slow, our planes are slow, and they shouldn't be because our technology has reached a level of manipulating time and space.
00:15:14.520 Now, when you look at the past 30 years of quantum mechanics, at the quantum scale, we've had numerous experiments showing the ability to manipulate time and space.
00:15:25.840 There was one study where they said they – and you probably know this better than me – they sent a photon forward and backward in time at the same time.
00:15:33.680 Things like that.
00:15:35.020 And they always preface it with, but this is just the quantum level.
00:15:38.160 We don't know how to scale it up.
00:15:39.760 Yeah.
00:15:39.780 But it sounds like – now I'm asking for your take on this.
00:15:44.940 The technology actually goes a bit further than what we know, and that would make sense.
00:15:48.740 The government keeps this technology a secret.
00:15:51.380 Yeah, absolutely.
00:15:52.500 And so if we had a unification theory of quantum and general relativity, the small and the very large, then we could scale it up.
00:16:00.100 So if they were hiding a unification theory, if they knew what the answer was to the questions in physics that we struggle with, dark matter, dark energy, and how it all comes together, then they could scale it up.
00:16:10.500 And I would argue they have figured that out.
00:16:12.120 I would argue they've had that figured out for many decades.
00:16:14.320 And the reason why they've hidden it is that it leads to fusion and it leads to free energy and other things that our society is not prepared for.
00:16:21.020 Now, you mentioned that Eric Burleson talked to Eric W. Davis, that science guy talking about the aliens.
00:16:30.100 Yeah.
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00:17:24.700 Fun fact about Eric W. Davis.
00:17:27.760 He's the right-hand man of Hal Pudoff, who I've identified as the world's leading expert on zero-point energy.
00:17:33.360 He's a government spook.
00:17:34.480 He might be MJ number one, if you believe in the MJ-12 stuff.
00:17:37.980 We got a lot of jargon real quick.
00:17:39.540 So first, what is zero-point energy?
00:17:41.100 So zero-point energy, you can think of it as the, what makes up space-time itself if you were to take out all the energy.
00:17:48.380 Take out all the light, take out all the heat, and what's left.
00:17:51.900 What we refer to as space-time, what gives our physical reality structure.
00:17:56.560 That space-time is the scaffolding, or that zero-point energy is the scaffolding holding up that space-time.
00:18:02.520 That's why distance is an illusion.
00:18:05.280 Because if you can manipulate the zero-point energy, you can manipulate space and time.
00:18:10.520 That's what they've figured out.
00:18:12.060 And so how do you manipulate it?
00:18:13.260 Well, we know.
00:18:14.080 The Casimir effect shows us.
00:18:15.740 That's why you hear all these people on Joe Rogan and everything.
00:18:17.560 I always talk about Casimir effect.
00:18:18.920 Just put two plates together, and they come together.
00:18:21.480 In a vacuum, yeah.
00:18:22.220 Why?
00:18:22.360 Because they're pushing out certain wavelengths.
00:18:25.260 Because think about the zero-point energy as like the white noise, but it's just a bunch of waves everywhere.
00:18:30.660 So if you push out certain waves, you manipulate that zero-point energy.
00:18:34.100 So in the film The Incredibles, for those who remember, the bad guy syndrome used zero-point energy to be able to move any object by pointing at it.
00:18:43.460 And so think of it like using noise cancellation, like with your headphones.
00:18:48.020 If you were to cancel out all that noise, then you can theoretically push out space and time or manipulate space and time.
00:18:55.060 So what are the orbs doing in the MH370 videos?
00:18:57.660 They are jamming themselves together to create a very powerful EMP, a non-thermal radiative pulse.
00:19:04.720 And what that does is push away all the zero-point energy.
00:19:07.120 Salvatore Pais, U.S. Navy engineer, his patents basically show this.
00:19:10.620 And when you do that, for a brief moment, that plane blips out of existence.
00:19:14.660 It blips out of existence, and it's in the true nothingness, the true nothingness.
00:19:20.600 And so what this would mean is that there really is this extra dimension, but it's not like the extra bizarro dimension.
00:19:25.840 It's just a shortcut between any two points and space and time, an Einstein-Rosen bridge.
00:19:30.760 Like an Einstein-Rosen bridge, you said?
00:19:33.120 Yes, like an Einstein-Rosen bridge.
00:19:34.020 And then there's this idea of E-R equals E-P-R.
00:19:37.760 Einstein-Rosen bridge, a wormhole, is fundamentally equivalent to Einstein-Poldosky-Rosen, which is quantum entanglement.
00:19:45.260 So if you can do faster-than-light communication, create Morse code by just looking for these wave patterns in this medium, use quantum sensing to look for these wave patterns in this medium, then you can detect, you can create a Morse code situation.
00:20:00.320 You can create a situation where the plane disappears out of time and then reappears somewhere else.
00:20:06.540 So you mentioned earlier that I had talked about faster-than-light communications, and I've had people tweet at me that's wrong and I'm crazy and super-chan stuff.
00:20:16.280 The general idea is quantum entanglement, and you might be able to explain this better than me, but the idea is two, I think, what, two electrons are entangled?
00:20:26.320 So you just entangle two particles, and here's what they figured out.
00:20:29.600 There's a DIRD, Defense Intelligence Reference Documents.
00:20:32.080 These were the most popular classified documents in the 2010s.
00:20:35.280 There's like 38 of them.
00:20:36.620 Eric W. Davis, the guy that was sitting next to Eric Burleson, he wrote six of them.
00:20:42.160 One of them is quantum communication systems.
00:20:44.300 In fact, they figured out a way where they can get around the retro causality issue.
00:20:51.280 They basically put in a speed limit into the quantum entanglement.
00:20:54.980 And what this would allow you to do, Tim, is you could control a rover on Mars in real time.
00:20:59.700 Yep.
00:21:00.160 Think about that.
00:21:00.880 You could control a rover on Mars in real time.
00:21:02.920 But beyond that, you could send a video in real time.
00:21:06.760 So right now, what's the light delay, like 20 minutes to Mars or something like that?
00:21:12.240 Yeah, I thought it was eight or something.
00:21:13.440 But yeah, so whatever the delay is, you could get away with that.
00:21:16.100 There would be no lag.
00:21:17.060 If you'd like to play video games, we could create a quantum network where there's no lag at all, where all the actions are seemingly happening in real time.
00:21:23.260 So what was explained to me is, real quick, for people who probably don't understand this stuff, entangled particles, they do something to the particles.
00:21:32.900 So there's two particles that, I'll give you the real simple layman term.
00:21:36.860 If you charge one or interact with one, the other reacts the same way.
00:21:40.900 And so the general idea is, you have one particle in this building and one in that building.
00:21:46.300 You are poking one, and the other one's moving as if being poked, despite no one being in the room.
00:21:51.860 So then they realized, hey, we can send binary through an entangled particle in one place and have it instantaneously transmit that binary.
00:22:02.780 It's almost like a sub-quantum or a quantum transmission line.
00:22:08.080 It was explained to me that we actively are building these systems.
00:22:12.960 It doesn't really matter that much on Earth because you can almost nearly instantaneously communicate as it is in terms of military importance.
00:22:23.200 But as we're getting into space travel, we are going to need this technology, especially if we start colonizing Mars.
00:22:29.440 So we're not going to be happy with a 20-minute lag time between communications.
00:22:34.660 We're going to want real-time communication, entanglement communication, FTL communication is that key.
00:22:40.500 Yep.
00:22:41.120 And Hal Pudoff was just on Joe Rogan, and the best part of that interview was when he was talking about his quantum communication patent from the 90s.
00:22:47.920 And I'm guaranteed that he built one of those for the government in the 90s in the version that he's got publicly.
00:22:52.620 The reason why he couldn't keep doing it is that our public material manufacturing isn't nearly as good as the defense contractors is.
00:22:58.880 One more thing I want to say, too, Eric W. Davis, his right-hand man, he's the world's leading expert on wormholes.
00:23:04.220 I think he's the one that figured out the teleportation for the Air Force.
00:23:08.140 And then the last thing is, Sonny White, he was also just on Joe Rogan.
00:23:12.380 Go look at the comments.
00:23:13.200 They're all saying that Joe Rogan needs to talk to me because I've been basically talking about Hal Pudoff and Sonny White.
00:23:18.020 Sonny White showed Joe Rogan a free energy microchip.
00:23:21.600 He said, here you go, hold this prototype in your hand.
00:23:23.780 And said, you just put this in your phone, and then your phone would never, ever run out of battery.
00:23:28.880 And I don't know if people know this.
00:23:30.660 One last thing.
00:23:31.460 Sonny White was the guy that tested the EM drive.
00:23:34.720 Remember that impossible drive?
00:23:36.160 Yeah, yeah.
00:23:36.400 He's the one that tested it for NASA and found anomalous thrust.
00:23:39.620 They had to backtrack on his findings.
00:23:42.260 I just want to clarify when we say free energy.
00:23:45.200 It's figurative free energy.
00:23:47.080 Yes.
00:23:48.180 It's just a good word.
00:23:49.320 But what it means is extracting this quantum energy of space-time.
00:23:52.340 If space-time has this structure and we can extract that energy, that's essentially free energy.
00:23:57.120 Or like the plasma balls.
00:23:58.480 If they can just pull energy from air and just get energy from them moving through air, that's also essentially free energy.
00:24:04.760 The energy is there.
00:24:06.380 So I don't know if this chip – is this the piezoelectricity thing?
00:24:13.280 No, it's using the Casimir effect.
00:24:14.740 So what it does is just like the plates, but it does it on a very, very tiny scales.
00:24:19.440 So on these very small microchip scales, the smaller and closer together they get, the more powerful the Casimir effect becomes.
00:24:26.600 So the smaller you get it, the more powerful it is, the more energy you can extract from that.
00:24:31.000 And so they basically create a little motor.
00:24:32.560 Go ahead.
00:24:33.000 For people who don't know, the Casimir effect is a long – this is not science fiction.
00:24:37.880 This is you go to any college freshman laboratory and they can show you this.
00:24:41.360 It's two plates in a vacuum and they begin to pull towards each other because there's – I think what are like electrons passing between them like they're coming into and out of existence or something like that?
00:24:50.780 There's more waves on the outside than on the inside.
00:24:53.440 Think of it like that.
00:24:54.260 If there's more on the outside, on the inside, then it will push together.
00:24:57.040 So we create this pressure.
00:24:58.240 And what it means is that unification has been figured out.
00:25:00.560 What is the unifier?
00:25:02.180 Electricity.
00:25:03.020 Tesla was right.
00:25:04.220 Electricity is the thing that unifies the very small and the very large.
00:25:07.060 There is no dark matter.
00:25:08.160 There is no dark energy.
00:25:09.520 The zero-point energy accounts for these things.
00:25:12.140 We're in a medium of energy.
00:25:13.840 The answer to the three-body problem, like why doesn't the Earth get pulled out of its orbit by Jupiter because it's outside of us?
00:25:19.880 Because we're in a medium.
00:25:22.220 We're in – it's not an empty space.
00:25:24.060 We're in a sticky substance that we're sitting inside moving around all the time.
00:25:27.300 Man, well, I think the reality as to why this technology is not going to be exposed and why we might never see it in our lifetime.
00:25:37.660 Who knows?
00:25:38.000 We need a population that builds things from the smallest components, sourcing, raw materials.
00:25:46.780 If the U.S. government, technology companies, or any foreign government came out right now and said,
00:25:51.880 here's how we can extract energy from the atmosphere and convert it with near-perfect efficiency,
00:25:58.740 we don't need oil anymore.
00:26:01.320 We don't – the economy just implodes.
00:26:03.080 Because, you know, I hear a lot of people say, oh, we have access to this – to anti-gravity or we have functional free energy.
00:26:11.140 And they've been saying this for years online in these conspiracy videos, but the government won't let us have it because the oil companies want control.
00:26:18.320 And I don't think it's that simple.
00:26:20.240 I think it's – if we're going to build rocket ships, if we're going to source the components for these machines and technologies,
00:26:26.120 somebody has to mine the cobalt.
00:26:27.640 And so the concern is, if we had a rapid expansion of energy capabilities, it would completely disrupt the global economy,
00:26:36.920 of which our technological infrastructure is built off 100-plus years of oil infrastructure.
00:26:42.480 So likely, military component, military applications that are above top secret are utilizing these technologies.
00:26:50.100 And conventionally, what we see on TV and think we use, they're functional but largely for show, I'd say.
00:26:58.120 The real capabilities are probably behind the scenes, and people would be shocked at the exponential technological advancement that the military's got.
00:27:06.040 Yep.
00:27:06.500 So what I'll say is real quick is you ask people, what's the energy source of these UFOs?
00:27:11.200 There's no SpaceX rockets with fuel tanks on them.
00:27:13.640 They're using an external energy source, clearly.
00:27:15.880 That's what people should be pressing everybody in the UFO community on.
00:27:18.300 And then Sierra Nevada Corporation is the one that produced Gorgon Stare.
00:27:22.060 So you can pretty much just say whatever you want about them, because apparently they're recording secret illegal operations
00:27:26.100 and sending them to the Joint Intelligence Tactical Network.
00:27:29.280 And then the last thing is you brought up the best point.
00:27:31.160 It's really not as simple as like, it's just they're hiding it because they're greedy.
00:27:34.500 It's a lot more than just that.
00:27:36.080 It will literally change our entire civilization forever.
00:27:39.280 We're talking about not just free energy, but transmutation as well,
00:27:42.660 which means Star Trek replicators are in our future for everyone.
00:27:46.360 And it's dangerous.
00:27:48.320 Like, imagine if terrorists or ISIS had this type of technology.
00:27:52.600 The scary part about the technology is it's not hard to create.
00:27:55.680 It's actually relatively simple.
00:27:57.260 So when this does get exposed, we're going to get whiplash from how quickly our entire civilization changes.
00:28:04.620 I think the issue largely is how do you build a replicator?
00:28:09.200 Like, I don't know that I'm more skeptical.
00:28:11.480 I don't know that they can do that.
00:28:12.200 But let's just say the technology for replication exists.
00:28:15.620 And the way it works in sci-fi is the Star Trek, for instance.
00:28:20.040 The ship is absorbing free energies in space.
00:28:23.080 Electrons get dragged in.
00:28:24.740 Those particles are forced and reshaped through a replicator into a food item or a glass or whatever.
00:28:30.700 The issue is you need to build those replicators.
00:28:34.760 You need certain components.
00:28:36.940 You need certain raw materials that can't necessarily be replicated.
00:28:41.800 So someone's got to mine the cobalt.
00:28:43.900 If you came out and said everyone's got free food forever, then people are going to say, then I don't want to work.
00:28:48.820 And they'll go lay on the grass and they'll stare at the sky.
00:28:51.060 So they intentionally keep these things scaled in such a way that the work that needs to be done will always be getting done.
00:28:58.760 And then maybe at some point there will be a conversion into a new civilization when the technology is released.
00:29:07.460 Now, I'll give you the final thoughts.
00:29:09.840 But my final thoughts, I don't think the technology necessarily exists today.
00:29:13.540 But I do think there is technology that would blow our minds that does exist.
00:29:18.520 And we have no idea what it is.
00:29:20.700 Yeah.
00:29:20.880 Yeah, no, it definitely exists.
00:29:22.380 They've got a coherent matter wave beam.
00:29:24.080 You're going to want to look that one up.
00:29:25.220 What is that?
00:29:25.600 There's a good clip on my Twitter about it.
00:29:27.020 That's exactly what they can do to produce nanoscale atomic level manufacturing, which is what would be needed for a replicator.
00:29:34.600 It also is a thousand or a million to a billion times more powerful than a laser.
00:29:38.960 It's essentially like taking matter and combining it down to a single point, just like you would with a laser beam.
00:29:45.040 And quantum mechanics shows that that's actually possible.
00:29:47.920 The last thing I want to say is that you're right about them dripping out the stuff to us.
00:29:51.040 That's what they're ought to do to us with fusion.
00:29:52.940 They're going to show us fusion.
00:29:54.020 They're going to say, we broke fusion is going to be this really inefficient version that's like slightly more efficient than probably like coal and oil and stuff like that.
00:30:00.340 They're going to make it into a whole political thing like they've done with solar and wind.
00:30:04.160 And then the last thing is Elon Musk has no idea about this.
00:30:06.940 I know people are going, he knows he's covering up.
00:30:09.080 No, he's completely blue pilled on this one aspect.
00:30:11.820 And I can't wait to see when he ends up finding out that the reason why the defense contractors aren't competing is because it's a national security issue.
00:30:19.100 That's the reason why they're not destroying him in SpaceX.
00:30:21.820 And I just, or it's going to be the biggest red pill ever.
00:30:24.640 Or could it be that they're beyond this technology and so they don't care?
00:30:28.300 Exactly.
00:30:28.920 That's the thing.
00:30:29.300 Why are we not coming back to the moon?
00:30:30.500 I would take a different approach from Candace Owens, although I highly respect her.
00:30:33.280 I would say we haven't gone back to the moon because it's a legal liability to send a rocket up to the moon that has like a low percent chance of, you know, some chance of something horrible happening when we just have magical orbs that can teleport stuff.
00:30:45.540 Yeah, I don't know.
00:30:46.580 I mean, we've got this, this Bukha sphere and it's always easy to dismiss these things as, here's what I'll say. 0.99
00:30:53.320 The Bukha sphere is fascinating and we say, yeah, but maybe it's a hoax. 1.00
00:30:57.640 The problem is any time we were to make a tremendous discovery, we can't just assume there are always hoaxes.
00:31:03.760 I think it's fair to say trust but verify or in this instance, I remain skeptical but open to the possibilities.
00:31:09.720 If we were to actually see an anti-grav device or a teleportation device and everyone just says it's a hoax, okay, well, maybe it's not, right?
00:31:21.180 We have to be open to the possibility.
00:31:22.500 Otherwise, how do we discover these things?
00:31:24.060 So when people say they see aliens or ghosts or whatever it is, when people say, oh, you know, you're crazy, the video's fake, I'm like, yeah, sure, maybe.
00:31:32.460 And I think it's fine to approach all of this from, it's probably not real, but we should be analytical of it.
00:31:38.760 We should question these technologies because it kind of goes to that saying of, you know, Jesus returned today, how would you know it was him?
00:31:45.780 You have to be open to the possibility of miracles, of things you can't comprehend, and you can't just dismiss everything all the time.
00:31:52.160 Otherwise, you'd never discover anything.
00:31:54.060 I'll put it this way.
00:31:55.300 Imagine the first dude who ever saw a lightning strike and started a fire, and then he went and said, a flash of light blinded me, and a streak came from the sky, and then this emerged.
00:32:05.460 They'd be like, BS, get out of here.
00:32:07.460 You're making that up.
00:32:08.980 No, you've got to be like, okay, maybe they're telling the truth.
00:32:11.380 But thanks for joining me, Ashton.
00:32:13.000 Where can people find you?
00:32:14.260 Yeah, find me at JustXAshton on Twitter.
00:32:17.100 And just remember, guys, if you gave DaVinci the iPhone, he wouldn't know what it is either.
00:32:20.460 Anti-gravity is just a clever use of physics.
00:32:22.980 It's not some magical thing.
00:32:24.900 Right on.
00:32:25.160 Well, thanks for joining me.
00:32:26.860 We'll see you next time.
00:32:27.680 Have a good one.
00:32:28.080 Take care.
00:32:28.420 I love all this stuff.
00:32:31.280 I love all these stories, claims.
00:32:34.600 Who knows?
00:32:36.200 I'm going to say it again.
00:32:37.200 I remain skeptical, and I think it's fine if you're like, it's probably all fake.
00:32:40.380 We wish these things were true because life is more mundane.
00:32:42.680 But I do think it's fair to say the U.S. government has technology we don't understand.
00:32:47.060 That doesn't mean we can teleport.
00:32:49.460 I've heard from intelligence individuals that we are working on building faster than light
00:32:55.540 communications.
00:32:56.040 That's not science fiction.
00:32:58.600 We have entangled particles.
00:32:59.880 This is like routine physics you get at any university.
00:33:03.260 And if these things are true, then we can conceptualize utilizing entanglement to transmit
00:33:08.420 data.
00:33:09.600 Binary.
00:33:10.380 Yes and no.
00:33:11.240 Ones and zeros.
00:33:12.480 And maybe it's slow, but information can be transmitted in such a way.
00:33:17.340 I suppose we won't know unless someone releases all the information.
00:33:20.140 So, my friends, we are going to send a raid to our good friend Russell Brand, who I believe
00:33:24.340 is gearing up to go live now.
00:33:26.680 And we'll send you over there.
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