The Debrief With MyronGainesX - Max Afterburner, PBD And Enforcer Are WRONG On The Iran War. Here's Why..

00:00:00.000 deal the f-35b teamed up with the okay uh you also forget the fact that they have a bunch of

00:00:05.120 money now they're making more money than before uh yes their infrastructure is getting destroyed

00:00:09.000 but they manufacture all their weapons in-house dude okay when you manufacture all your weapons

00:00:14.700 in-house that significantly decreases the headache um and the supply lines needed to continue to wage

00:00:21.720 war they make everything themselves dude so what is this guy talking about man like really

00:00:30.000 So, anyway.

00:00:32.740 A-10, they're out there, and they're ready to suppress any attempt to reinforce that island from the IRGC,

00:00:39.660 and they would light up the IRGC fast attack craft that would be coming in to try to close the corridors

00:00:45.960 that would allow more amphibious assault ships and more Marines to actually take the island.

00:00:50.840 Those IRGC launches, they might look scary, but against American air dominance,

00:00:55.100 they're basically running into a wall now with their stockpiles being crushed.

00:00:59.420 But imagine the regime watching their prized oil lifeline suddenly under the shadow of American

00:01:04.800 steel. How long before their fierce and forceful talks just turn into a quiet panic? I mean,

00:01:11.440 pretty quickly, in my opinion. But the U.S. has roughly 5,000 Marines accelerating towards the

00:01:16.300 region on two amphibious ready groups, the 31st MEU on USS Tripoli, LHA-7, and supporting ships

00:01:23.340 from the Indo-Pacific, plus the 11th MEU riding the USS Boxer ARG amphibious readiness group

00:01:29.820 rerouted early from the West Coast. Initial CENTCOM airstrikes have already obliterated

00:01:35.600 the island's military defenses while deliberately sparing the oil facilities,

00:01:41.000 just like President Trump has described. The 82nd Airborne's immediate response force has

00:01:45.500 3,000 paratroopers, and they're on heightened alert with flight data showing possible movement

00:01:51.320 towards the Middle East, ready to reinforce Marines if needed to secure the entire island.

00:01:55.600 This keeps the economic assets intact so the U.S. doesn't even more rattle the energy markets and

00:02:01.700 hopefully not spike oil prices through the roof again while still denying Iran its main cash cow

00:02:08.120 because if you can keep oil flowing to China and then Iran doesn't get any of that nice little

00:02:13.560 royalty check with reports saying it could be $100 million in revenue per oil tanker. So that could

00:02:20.520 lead to protecting u.s interests yo this is insane fucking cope from this guy bro like insane

00:02:26.560 mental gymnastics cope like this is brain dead fucking analysis

00:02:31.660 like what are you what is this guy talking about bro like dude just stick to you know

00:02:38.380 talking about b52 bombers man like this ain't for everybody man you know this really ain't for

00:02:44.180 everybody you know you just can't take anybody serious like if you're not even gonna acknowledge

00:02:50.660 that we're getting dragged into this conflict by the fucking israelis like which he doesn't

00:02:54.940 won't won't do by the way even his own fans said yo is it true that we got dragged into there by

00:02:59.780 the israelis this bro's like uh no all right dude okay bro okay so by keeping oh for those of you

00:03:09.380 that are joining from youtube welcome we are going to be breaking down um some uh content from some

00:03:17.440 pro israel pro war perspectives okay and we're gonna just debunk them in real time like we've

00:03:25.880 been doing with this guy so you guys came at the perfect time energy flowing across the globe while

00:03:32.240 denying that cash flow to the irgc and allowing freedom of now jhg studios thank you so much new

00:03:37.960 renaissance appreciate you drama 58 shout out to you as well navigation through the strait of

00:03:43.020 hormuz the f-35b teamed up with a-10s teamed up with u.s assets that are in the area already

00:03:49.020 like f-15es and f-16s those would be the silent guardians making all of this feasible by owning

00:03:55.360 the airspace above that tiny but critical island with iran's threats now kind of being exposed as

00:04:00.840 hollow but again they have been able to close okay so what are you going to do when they start

00:04:04.980 sending thousands of drones into the island.

00:04:07.580 What are you going to do?

00:04:13.260 Like, honestly, what are they going to do

00:04:16.360 if they go to take this island, right?

00:04:19.560 This is such a fucking bad idea.

00:04:23.220 This island's over here, okay?

00:04:26.780 What are you going to do when they start shooting drones at you guys?

00:04:29.720 What are you going to do when they shoot ballistic missiles at you guys?

00:04:31.680 Because here's what the Iranians are going to do.

00:04:33.140 They're going to send

00:04:35.060 Hundreds at a time

00:04:36.320 They're going to fucking saturate

00:04:37.780 The airspace

00:04:40.080 The fighters just can't shoot them all down

00:04:42.340 Some aren't going to get through

00:04:43.960 And they got cluster munitions

00:04:53.300 Which means missile goes up

00:04:55.140 Comes back down

00:04:56.020 And I mean it's so close

00:04:58.040 They probably don't even have to do that

00:04:58.900 They can do cruise missiles

00:04:59.800 Like

00:05:00.340 They got cluster words

00:05:02.740 Like, it literally comes out, like, and then it spreads into, like, 100 fucking little bombs.

00:05:09.660 Like, does this guy not understand the geography here, how this makes no sense?

00:05:16.440 Parts of the Straits of Hormuz, two U.S. oil tankers, so they're not nothing.

00:05:20.360 Never discount the enemy, but wait until you see it.

00:05:22.800 You guys already did, and that's why we're in this fucking quagmire right now,

00:05:25.740 because your dumb ass is talking about B-52s all day.

00:05:27.540 literally we're in this quagmire because of our military hubris thinking be with the toes be

00:05:34.600 with the toes f-22s f-35s air superiority that is why we're in this position you we are literally

00:05:44.040 in this position because we did just what you said not to do which is underestimate our enemy

00:05:47.940 you fucking dumbass incredible incredible like this is unwatchable for me chat on a scale of

00:05:57.020 one to 10. I want you guys as honest opinion. How frustrating is this for watching? How frustrating

00:06:02.040 is this for you guys watching? And I want you to be honest. I don't want you to say 10 out of 10,

00:06:05.800 dude. No, I want you guys to give me a measured response. Okay. Cause like, let me, let me give

00:06:11.120 you all a, let me give you guys a parameter here. Five is I'm annoyed. Six is, this is really

00:06:20.380 annoying seven is like okay i i'm gonna i want to punch a wall eight is you actually are punching

00:06:27.340 the wall okay and then nine and ten is like rage okay so i'm gonna put a poll here

00:06:50.380 I can only get some engagement here.

00:07:20.380 all right i'll put this in here have fun and vote ninjas exactly how these marines could

00:07:39.120 rewrite the playbook on limited decisive operations let's move to the 4d chess strategic

00:07:44.380 analysis section so president 4d chess bro okay

00:07:47.980 president trump's pause on energy strikes while keeping maximum pressure to me it looks like

00:07:55.620 classic smart power keep the straight-of-form moves conversation alive through back channels

00:08:00.360 degrade the military of iran with um they're not talking dude they're not talking

00:08:06.060 what is he talking about

00:08:09.640 without crashing the world economy and position the too late for that too late for that bro we

00:08:17.300 got 100 barrels of oil man u.s's best assets for the end game here cars island is the perfect

00:08:23.780 pressure point seize the port seize the airfield and then hold the oil terminals intact and then

00:08:30.060 suddenly iran loses its main export lifeline without the u.s having to blow it all up and then

00:08:39.640 export lifeline without the U.S.

00:08:45.640 And then suddenly, Iran sees the airfield and then hold the oil terminals intact, and

00:08:51.460 then suddenly, Iran loses its main export lifeline without the U.S. having to blow it

00:08:56.920 all up.

00:08:57.480 Okay.

00:08:59.380 How does them losing their export lifeline, let's assume that's actually true, how is

00:09:06.120 them losing their export lifeline going to open up the strait?

00:09:09.640 honestly these are two different things how is putting boots on the ground at carg island

00:09:24.400 because he is correct that they manufacture a lot of their oil there

00:09:27.320 right and moving around it's like a transit location that is true but how's putting boots

00:09:31.900 on the ground they're going to open up the shredder hummus bro

00:09:34.060 Still waiting for an explanation on that

00:09:38.200 The island's over here

00:09:39.900 The straighter humus is over here

00:09:42.820 This is what me and Larry Johnson were talking about

00:09:45.640 You got a former federal agent

00:09:47.880 You got a former CIA analyst

00:09:49.740 Saying like, wait, what?

00:09:53.420 This makes zero strategic sense

00:09:55.060 Here's the straight

00:09:56.120 This island

00:09:58.760 What?

00:10:04.060 And then you could transfer it to the free people of Iran should that transition happen

00:10:14.040 and a full revolution takes place, which it looks like that is still a possibility.

00:10:18.940 The F-35B, though, to me, it's like the quarterback here.

00:10:34.060 Seven, seven, seven thousand dollars.

00:10:36.880 Hey, everybody, it's Marshall.

00:10:37.680 I love getting paychecks from Zionists.

00:10:48.500 All right, bro.

00:10:49.240 Which video is it, man?

00:10:50.080 I'm done with this nigga, bro.

00:10:51.140 Which, which, guys, which video was it

00:10:53.000 that y'all wanted me to react to?

00:10:54.140 Which one?

00:10:54.800 A couple of you guys said you wanted me to compare,

00:10:57.580 to break down their shit.

00:11:04.060 which one is it chat

00:11:16.360 well you know what a lot of you guys are saying like our rage here there's a reason why i asked

00:11:28.820 that question the reason why i asked that question is because the fact that you guys are mad

00:11:36.120 was my whole goal

00:11:39.720 let me explain why

00:11:43.060 you can only be mad at the hesbara if you know what's actually going on

00:11:50.740 so pat on the back to all you guys

00:11:54.800 I fucking love you guys

00:11:59.060 I'm glad that I was able to

00:12:00.160 now you guys

00:12:01.340 every single one of you guys in this chat

00:12:03.440 and I want to give you guys all a fucking pat on the back here

00:12:05.800 and I'm going to tell you why

00:12:06.820 I got to give you guys a fucking round of applause

00:12:09.780 and the reason why I got to give you guys a round of applause

00:12:17.620 is because

00:12:18.420 if you're watching content like this

00:12:20.040 and you're getting frustrated,

00:12:20.980 that's a good sign that you know

00:12:22.280 what the fuck is going on.

00:12:23.660 You have officially become

00:12:25.500 in the one percentile of Americans

00:12:28.020 that understands what the fuck

00:12:30.100 is really going on with this war.

00:12:32.960 And the fact that I might have had

00:12:34.960 a big role in teaching you

00:12:35.960 or a small role or a medium role,

00:12:37.760 that's irrelevant.

00:12:38.600 You know what's up

00:12:39.360 and that was my goal from the beginning.

00:12:40.960 So the more of you that are mad and annoyed,

00:12:43.800 it means I'm doing my job right

00:12:44.840 because you guys know what it is.

00:12:46.040 A normie will watch this and be like,

00:12:47.180 meanwhile, you guys are like,

00:12:48.800 what the fuck is it?

00:12:49.540 what? You want to throw your laptop. That tells me how smart you are. So shout out to you guys.

00:12:56.160 All right, let's go to PPD now. Which video do you guys want from him?

00:13:00.620 Did somebody drop a link for me here in OSS? OSS or kick? I don't have the YouTube chat up really.

00:13:08.340 I mean, you guys are on screen, but I don't have the thing in front of me.

00:13:11.740 or do you guys just want me to go right to pierce morgan i can go to pierce morgan too

00:13:19.900 somebody get me the pbd link while i open up pierce morgan

00:13:22.060 also a quick announcement for all the youtube guys that are here um ohio university guys

00:13:30.000 march 26th this thursday we're cooking march 26th this thursday

00:13:35.620 okay where are we here okay uh

00:13:43.700 this just looks like a catastrophe and the best we can hope for at this point is that it only

00:13:58.880 some more dave smith hosted part of the problem a libertarian who backed trump in 2024 and adam

00:14:04.380 who's the value attainment host and pbd podcast regular a former liberal who backed uh zio nemesis

00:14:11.320 thank you for the gifted trump in 2024 well welcome to both of you uh day smith will come to

00:14:17.020 the tsunami uh that greeted your last appearance on uncensored led by ben shapiro a little later

00:14:25.980 um but first of all this sort of quaint notion now i got a big debate coming up two guys on the iraq

00:14:32.580 on the iran war big debate coming so you guys will find out about it soon

00:14:42.080 i've been peddled by people in the mainstream media that the podcast world is irrelevant no

00:14:53.840 one's ever heard of any of the podcasters or we youtubers or anything um and we should all just

00:15:00.680 be ignored i don't think that's true oh i mean it's just it's patently absurd on its face i mean

00:15:08.780 again i'm not trying to like overstate um the influence that any one podcast or show has um

00:15:16.000 but i mean lots of people listen to shows they don't necessarily agree completely with the host

00:15:20.340 of that show but again you know to say look i mean pierce if you look at the polls what the

00:15:25.720 polls tell us is that this is the most unpopular war in american history

00:15:30.680 I've seen Handler appreciate you history going into the war and CNN is going to read you that's

00:15:35.700 a crazy name bro these North Korea numbers actually in fact I think it was better than

00:15:40.260 Kim Jong-un did in his last election 100 percent of MAGA but what does that really mean I mean

00:15:47.100 the truth is Pierce you kind of nailed it here in your opening right even when Joe Biden was

00:15:52.060 clearly senile and was forced to pull out of his re-election campaign the majority of Biden

00:15:59.860 supporters still supported him, you know, and like there was still going to be like 40 something

00:16:05.740 percent of the electorate would have voted for Joe Biden. Now, that wasn't enough, though. And

00:16:11.260 that's why they forced him out, because you need a coalition to carry you here. So this comes down

00:16:15.940 to like how you're defining MAGA. If you wanted to say Joe Rogan and Theo Vaughn and Andrew Schultz

00:16:21.900 and all these guys, they're not MAGA. Well, OK, but they were relevant enough for Donald Trump to go

00:16:27.360 won all of their shows in the campaign.

00:16:29.540 Yeah, Andrew Schultz is a fucking bitch.

00:16:32.320 And the point is that the coalition that got Donald Trump elected in 24,

00:16:36.300 that got him for the first time ever to win the popular vote,

00:16:39.200 that coalition has been destroyed.

00:16:40.660 And the final thing I'll say is this, Pierce,

00:16:42.120 I made this prediction on my show the other day.

00:16:44.300 But right now, you kind of have these two broadly speaking camps,

00:16:47.740 say, Megan Kelly and Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens,

00:16:50.860 maybe people like me who are saying the coalition has been destroyed.

00:16:54.760 And then on the other side, you have people like you played Bacha,

00:16:56.960 Ben Shapiro, who are saying, no, no, no, the coalition is fine. What we've learned is that

00:17:02.480 Tucker Carlson doesn't matter. Give it a couple months, Pierce, and I promise you,

00:17:07.780 everyone on that side will say the coalition has been destroyed and it's Tucker's fault.

00:17:12.280 This is going to tank Donald Trump's presidency. We're already past the point of that. The Democrats

00:17:17.780 are going to win the House and the Senate. It's going to be impeachments and subpoenas

00:17:21.420 and investigations for the next two years. And I don't think anyone from this administration

00:17:25.740 can win the presidential in 28

00:17:27.640 at this pace.

00:17:29.340 Right. Well, Adam, you're part of

00:17:31.720 a very successful podcast.

00:17:33.680 Guys, OSS 300, guys, I'm giving you

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00:17:53.560 So...

00:17:55.740 so uh one chest just gave it to me so i got y'all right now uh patrick david's been a regular on

00:18:03.080 this show shout out to one chest forgive me the list as have other members of your great team

00:18:07.980 um and you know i would say just from a personal you can only judge it personally i guess but

00:18:12.600 i've been on some of the biggest tv shows mainstream tv shows you can think of right

00:18:17.960 america's got talent for six years britain's got talent uh i replaced larry king at cnn they aired

00:18:23.400 my show three times a day in America and around the world and so on and so on and what's been

00:18:29.420 fascinating to me in the last couple of years is I get more people come up to me in the street

00:18:34.720 wherever I am whether it's New York LA London Sydney the Middle East whatever more people come

00:18:41.600 up and they're a bit younger than came up when I did any of those shows and they're all coming up

00:18:47.600 about my YouTube show and they're all watching it avidly and they're watching other shows like

00:18:53.360 yours like dave's tucker because they talked to me about all this i had two guys last week from

00:18:59.380 denmark 19 i think they were stopped me in the street in west london uh passionate viewers of

00:19:06.120 uncensored right it was really fascinating to talk to them um so i just think this idea that

00:19:11.480 people who operate away from mainstream media now like you like me like dave like others that

00:19:17.960 we're kind of irrelevant and no one knows who we are is completely contradicted by reality i just

00:19:24.560 see it in the streets so yeah when i was walking around with louis not one person stopped him dude

00:19:29.080 not one person stopped louis when i was walking around with him but i got stopped a million times

00:19:32.980 guys i get stopped a lot you know i and i'm not saying that to brag or anything like that

00:19:39.660 but i get stopped a lot it's a it's a reason actually why i don't go out so much

00:19:42.780 so yeah bro nobody knows who these fucking um you know mainstream dinosaurs are a lot of the times

00:19:50.640 i don't know what whether it's self-preservation going on that the mainstream media doesn't want

00:19:56.340 to accept there's been a shift in power but what do you think so we're talking about the

00:20:03.520 mainstream media so how much trust you have in the mainstream media but uh let me answer that

00:20:08.440 SO, NUMBER ONE, PIERCE, GREAT TO

00:20:10.220 BE WITH YOU.

00:20:10.800 DAVE, GOOD TO SEE YOU.

00:20:11.800 IT'S BEEN A LITTLE WHILE.

00:20:12.920 THANK YOU FOR DRESSING UP, DAVE.

00:20:15.520 THE QUESTION THAT YOU'RE ASKING

00:20:19.320 IS ARE YOUNG PEOPLE WATCHING

00:20:20.660 SOCIAL MEDIA AND THEY'RE WATCHING

00:20:21.820 YOUTUBE?

00:20:22.320 OBVIOUSLY, DUH.

00:20:24.200 MY MOM STILL WATCHES THE NEWS AT

00:20:26.540 8 P.M. AND IF SHE MISSES IT,

00:20:28.220 THAT'S IT.

00:20:28.760 SHE DOESN'T SEE IT.

00:20:29.380 SHE HASN'T FIGURED OUT HOW TO GET

00:20:30.940 ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

00:20:31.620 SHE STILL TRIES TO ASK ME HOW TO

00:20:33.960 FIND ME ON YOUTUBE AND ON

00:20:35.260 INSTAGRAM.

00:20:35.680 But, yes, the 35 and under crowd is on social media,

00:20:38.760 and I'll tell you an anecdote.

00:20:41.240 I'm registered independent.

00:20:42.680 I never would have voted for Trump.

00:20:43.980 Okay, I got you guys all your OG badges.

00:20:47.160 One chest.

00:20:47.940 Jerz Alex?

00:20:48.700 I don't know if you spelled that wrong, dude.

00:20:50.040 Can you double-check with Jerz Alex and then Taco XD?

00:20:52.420 I can't find those two.

00:20:54.540 Okay, but everybody else that's on that list should have their OG badge.

00:20:58.960 And Repo Clippers, you don't need a VIP since you're in the OSS 300 now.

00:21:02.580 So you're good, bro.

00:21:04.640 You've got an OSS 300 badge.

00:21:05.740 You don't need a VIP one.

00:21:07.240 And then I, you know, had common sense and realized,

00:21:10.600 do you vote for Trump, who might be brutish and an a-hole,

00:21:13.580 or you vote for a weak, feckless, I wouldn't even call it leader like Kamala.

00:21:17.620 And obviously the choice is pretty easy.

00:21:19.700 But I would debate with my liberal friends,

00:21:21.480 one that was very, very, very tight with the Clinton people,

00:21:25.020 part of the Hillary campaign.

00:21:27.580 And he noticed as I was starting to become more,

00:21:31.460 let's just say, less Trump-hating.

00:21:33.420 This is in 2023, 2024, run up to the election.

00:21:37.100 And then he goes, dude, I don't even know what happened to you.

00:21:38.900 You're like full-on MAGA now.

00:21:40.220 I go, no, I just have common sense.

00:21:42.560 I see what's going on on the radical left, and it just, it's so un-American to me.

00:21:47.920 And he goes, yeah, you're just in your little YouTube world.

00:21:50.940 I'm in the real world with the real politicians and the real polls.

00:21:55.640 I got the real stuff going on.

00:21:57.060 I go, hey, buddy, his name is John.

00:21:59.020 I go, John, this is the real world now, guy.

00:22:02.680 Yeah, we'll see.

00:22:04.300 So obviously we see what happens in the election.

00:22:06.860 This is not the type of person that likes to apologize, right?

00:22:09.720 Comes up to me and goes, Adam, I was dead wrong.

00:22:12.620 You're right.

00:22:13.480 This is the new YouTube world.

00:22:15.160 Congratulations on all your success, Pierce, and welcome to the YouTube world.

00:22:18.820 It is what it is.

00:22:20.360 Okay.

00:22:21.020 Well, we're sort of in broad agreement there.

00:22:23.040 Let's get to broad disagreement, I suspect, which is the way this war is playing out.

00:22:27.600 I mean, Dave, I've really struggled to work out the upside for Donald Trump from the start of this.

00:22:36.080 Doing this so close to the midterms, doing exactly what he said he wouldn't do,

00:22:41.840 which is he was going to stop attacking Middle Eastern countries.

00:22:46.280 It was all going to be America first, a premium on sorting out American problems in America.

00:22:52.680 And then suddenly he launches a war on one of the biggest countries in the Middle East,

00:22:57.020 certainly one of the best armed and all hell has broken loose, not least to the global economy,

00:23:04.280 which is inevitably going to have, and already is having, a very detrimental effect on living

00:23:10.200 standards for average Americans. If I'm an American that voted for Trump, I'm like,

00:23:15.520 I don't get this. You know, I might in a poll say, I get it, but I don't think I really get it.

00:23:20.900 yeah and okay interesting then you also have to consider i think me and dave smith pretty much

00:23:27.440 agree in lockstep almost uh with this iran uh iran war they're pierce right like there's there's a

00:23:32.920 sizable percentage of people who support donald trump who approve of the job broadly that he's

00:23:38.040 been doing who maybe look we're three weeks or whatever into this also guys if you're a brokie

00:23:42.320 type in in the chat i put the fries in the bag that's how you get the emotes okay you want the

00:23:47.940 emotes we got a bunch of funny ones we got brown clown fries in the bag shout out to josie she

00:23:52.180 made a bunch of them that are hilarious they're all for subscribers only i don't have any badges

00:23:55.940 for non-subscribers because uh yeah fuck you brokies so yeah so for the real diggers uh

00:24:02.200 if you can't afford it just say hey i put the fries in the bag and somebody will probably

00:24:06.940 gift you a sub the what the oss army is very generous let's go all right i'll kind of give

00:24:14.860 him a chance we'll see but if this doesn't turn into any type of win and if it turns into a clear

00:24:20.120 disaster which it already seems to be that's only going to hurt him more and more and more you know

00:24:26.020 I think look Pierce it's despite the fact that it is not in my incentives in some way as like a

00:24:33.140 political commentator like I hope this whole thing just works out great and then I know that all the

00:24:38.360 people who don't like me will say haha you were warning that this would be a disaster I hope

00:24:42.600 that i would much rather take that uh deal and and live in that but here's the other element

00:24:48.440 there is that right we had the 12-day war in the summer and i've certainly heard i heard at the

00:24:53.900 time some on debates that we did on your show and others and and i've heard nothing but since then

00:24:58.920 on social media that ha oh you guys were so stupid you were warning about exactly what we're seeing

00:25:04.560 right now which is what all of us were warning about who are critics of the 12-day war and they

00:25:09.060 But the Iran didn't do that. And they were like, look, we got away with it. One and done.

00:25:13.580 No Americans dead. And that's it. We don't have to do anything else. They spent the following

00:25:17.520 six months bragging about how the nuclear threat had been totally obliterated. Now we find ourselves

00:25:22.720 peers back in this same situation. And as I mentioned last time on your show, the big picture

00:25:28.000 here is that clearly the calculation changed for Iran. They no longer feel that it's in their

00:25:33.680 incentive for self-preservation to not strike back and kill Americans or not do maximal damage.

00:25:39.620 And now, clearly, with a younger, more radical Ayatollah who has not promised to not build

00:25:45.640 nuclear weapons, they've made the calculation that actually they can't not give us a bloody nose,

00:25:50.940 that they have to really make this cost us. Otherwise, we'll be back in another few months

00:25:56.180 doing it again. And of course, at the beginning of this war, Donald Trump said this was a full

00:26:02.360 regime changed war and called for the people to rise up and overthrow their government and the

00:26:06.060 people did rise up pierce in support of their martyr ayatollah and in support of this regime

00:26:11.780 i know you saw some of those aerial shots there must have been hundreds of thousands of people

00:26:15.880 out in the streets in tehran in the most liberal part of the country supporting the regime so i'm

00:26:22.580 sorry at this point this just looks like a catastrophe and the best we can hope for at

00:26:27.200 this point is that it's involved in this. What can you do on big time? Do you still feel that?

00:26:32.260 Do you still feel Guy social? Three weeks in, we're already there. Right. So Adam, you've had

00:26:37.620 a little spat with Dave on social media when he called it an illegal war of aggression on X. You

00:26:42.880 said, come on, Guy, read the room. Dave responded, let's not pretend you read, Adam, to which you

00:26:47.840 replied, I'm able to read scoreboards. You are losing big time. Do you still feel that? Do you

00:26:53.060 still feel that because I would argue that the scoreboards militarily absolutely would show that

00:26:58.980 the United States and Israeli combined forces have inflicted enormous damage on Iran's military

00:27:04.360 capability. I think that's inarguable. However, what I don't think has been properly factored in

00:27:09.600 by the Americans and Israelis is the ability of Iran to wage an economic war in parallel to a

00:27:16.060 military war and by controlling the Straits of Hormuz and by attacking as they have done their

00:27:20.500 neighboring Gulf states. Ace Tone, thank you so much for that. Jay Diaz, thank you so much

00:27:24.620 for the gifted sub. Ace Tone 84, D.H. Moretti, Jay Diaz, shout out to all you ninjas. Jay Diaz again.

00:27:30.560 I see you guys are hooking up the fries in the bag, people.

00:27:35.140 So, all you

00:27:36.560 fry baggers,

00:27:39.520 Jay Diaz is blessing all you ninjas.

00:27:44.680 Both oil refineries and tourist hotspots and so on, they've managed to freak everybody out

00:27:50.240 and they freak the global markets.

00:27:52.900 And this is incredibly damaging to Donald Trump

00:27:55.360 because every day that straight to foremost is shut,

00:27:58.400 then you will see the impact for the next few weeks and months

00:28:01.400 coming through the US economy and the global economy,

00:28:04.000 but the US economy, you know, when fertilizer,

00:28:07.160 when the impact of that being stopped

00:28:08.360 comes through in a couple of months' time,

00:28:10.380 it takes a while to cut through to the actual people of America.

00:28:14.440 But it will, and when it does, it's going to be very damaging.

00:28:16.600 Do you not think that the longer this goes on,

00:28:18.900 the more of a miscalculation has been made here?

00:28:23.960 Look, I'm not the Trump is the all-B MAGA guy.

00:28:27.440 I'm the guy that was like,

00:28:28.440 yeah, I'm not so sure about this Trump guy.

00:28:30.320 You know what?

00:28:30.680 Oh, I got the fake news.

00:28:31.820 Oh, Russia, Russia, Russia.

00:28:33.060 Oh, it turns out, yeah, you know,

00:28:34.360 he's way better than the other side.

00:28:36.500 So I had to use logic and a measured approach

00:28:39.280 to get me to the point where I'm like, he's the guy.

00:28:41.600 So I'll ask you another question.

00:28:42.640 Let's say Trump wasn't here.

00:28:43.920 What's Kamala doing?

00:28:45.340 Oh, no, don't get me wrong.

00:28:46.320 I think Kamala Harris would have been a terrible president.

00:28:48.600 I thought Joe Biden was a terrible president.

00:28:50.700 Yeah, I mean, we all know that, Kamala,

00:28:52.420 we can't have a woman in office.

00:28:53.620 I think we can all agree on that.

00:28:54.700 Even the Zionists, pro-Zionist people,

00:28:57.100 you know, would agree on that.

00:28:58.400 Well, actually, they know that.

00:29:00.020 And I do, I've always said with Trump,

00:29:01.740 I think I find myself agreeing with some of the things he does

00:29:04.100 and disagreeing with others,

00:29:05.380 which I think is the right way to deal with Trump.

00:29:07.400 I think if you just judge him on what comes out of his mouth...

00:29:08.980 Well, that's just like with anything, Kyrus.

00:29:09.880 You're not going to agree with everybody and disagree with that.

00:29:11.900 Right, right.

00:29:12.380 And look, when I came on the PBD podcast,

00:29:14.780 I loved it because we disagree about stuff

00:29:16.880 and you guys come on, we disagree, we agree.

00:29:18.600 Hey, guys, do me a favor on YouTube.

00:29:20.060 Smash that like button, guys.

00:29:21.800 I'm back on here for y'all.

00:29:22.900 We're going to move you niggas over to Kick, man,

00:29:24.380 very soon to the dark side.

00:29:26.480 We're just using, we're literally just farming YouTube

00:29:28.340 because it's the worst platform ever.

00:29:30.100 So Kick is way better.

00:29:31.900 No ads, by the way.

00:29:32.660 You don't need YouTube Red to watch me on Kick.

00:29:34.080 And everybody loves it on Kick.

00:29:35.000 You guys should see the fucking chat.

00:29:37.940 We never fall out over it, nor should anybody, right?

00:29:40.420 But on this specific call about Iran,

00:29:42.120 I did say on day one,

00:29:43.720 I think this is a massive gamble

00:29:45.080 and I don't understand the timing

00:29:46.760 And I think the capacity for this to go badly wrong is very high.

00:29:50.880 The longer it has gone on, because Trump originally was like,

00:29:53.120 this is over in days, then it's over in a couple of weeks.

00:29:55.500 Then everything started changing.

00:29:57.080 Then the regime change, he said, was going to happen

00:29:58.940 with people rising up.

00:30:00.180 None of that has happened.

00:30:01.240 There are lots of reasons.

00:30:01.820 Yeah, even though they tried.

00:30:03.420 They tried.

00:30:05.040 Jay True says, how many cars have you had?

00:30:06.520 I remember you talking about a Toyota Prius.

00:30:08.180 No, I never had a Toyota Prius.

00:30:09.640 Hey, Martin, I don't think you understand my job.

00:30:10.920 I'm asking when you might be going to Minnesota anytime soon.

00:30:14.900 Sometime in April.

00:30:15.560 We're shooting for sometime in April.

00:30:16.760 triple uh g appreciate you one chest says i'm our checkered okay the m for yep i uh

00:30:22.200 yep i put them in the kick badges uh i put the oss 300 guys let's fucking go wrgc this nigga bro

00:30:28.120 uh it was uh it was me for the og badge my kick is obreeze 24 okay i think you might already have

00:30:36.220 it bro to be honest with you um i'm ready to see it's a c footage america's getting blown up

00:30:42.280 Chill, man.

00:30:44.300 Guys, everything is going to be okay.

00:30:46.000 I'm going to go up the street so we can all chill.

00:30:47.480 Okay, J. Diaz.

00:30:48.360 Dave Smith versus Adam Sosnick on Pierce.

00:30:49.920 Okay, Joe Kent on Sean Ryan preview.

00:30:51.380 Okay.

00:30:51.840 It amazes me that many people are not as political as intelligent.

00:30:53.820 Okay, Curtis.

00:30:54.400 All right, bro.

00:30:56.260 It's crazy.

00:30:57.540 I think the reason we saw so many pro-regime people hit the streets

00:31:01.500 was they were not going to get killed doing it.

00:31:03.180 We saw in January when people protested against the regime,

00:31:05.980 a lot got killed.

00:31:06.740 And obviously there are bombs flying around all over the cities.

00:31:09.540 Yo, O'Breeze, you already got OG badge, bro.

00:31:11.520 You already have one.

00:31:12.280 you're good. Iran, which will also put people off, I guess. So there are also reasons, I guess,

00:31:17.860 why people are protesting or not protesting in certain ways. But to me, the justification for

00:31:23.920 this war has changed so many times. It's made me think, I don't think Donald Trump has any clear

00:31:28.460 idea of what victory looks like. Do you? I mean, if the regime remains intact and they keep their

00:31:33.500 enriched uranium, for example, and they maintain control of the Straits of Hormuz, is that victory?

00:31:38.720 well look

00:31:41.520 this was not an easy decision

00:31:43.380 these guys have been in power 47 years

00:31:45.460 everybody in our microwave hustle society

00:31:47.680 wants it's done in the next 4-7 weeks

00:31:49.280 it's going to take some time

00:31:50.880 I was talking to a good Navy SEAL

00:31:52.760 no because the reason why people are like

00:31:55.160 what the fuck is because Trump expected it to be quick like that

00:31:57.580 that's the reason why people don't

00:31:59.600 why people are having problems

00:32:01.140 is because Trump himself

00:32:03.140 thought it was going to be

00:32:04.540 quickly and the thing with Trump is

00:32:07.160 he's the commander in chief

00:32:08.680 he has all the intel he has people with you know the top clearances briefing him every day

00:32:13.380 so if there's anyone that had a good lay of the land better than anybody it'd be donald trump

00:32:17.960 obviously right so uh he really thought that he was gonna get this done in a couple of days

00:32:24.920 and he failed a buddy my navy seal he said dude we've taken out 80 percent of their military

00:32:30.780 capacity not bad in less than a month so let the guy cook a little bit so you also okay but here's

00:32:36.100 the thing right so this is very deceptive he said we removed 80 of their capacity okay you

00:32:42.560 destroyed their navy great you destroyed the air force 80 of the capacity gone uh but what's the

00:32:46.920 most dangerous capacity they have oh the ballistic fucking missiles like bro like it's like it's like

00:32:55.340 you're you're stepping over hundred dollar bills to pick up quarters then bragging that you have

00:33:01.740 the quarters like what do you like what's going on here you know now to a retard that doesn't

00:33:08.580 understand how the iranian armed forces operate right this sounds good we destroyed 80 percent

00:33:14.720 of their military capability oh my god they're so awesome that's not the point you didn't destroy

00:33:18.680 the most important part of their military military capability which is actually causing you guys a

00:33:22.980 great deal of damage which is their ballistic missile program and the ballistic missile program

00:33:27.500 is deep underground where you guys can barely hit it with bunker busters and you don't even

00:33:32.820 know where they are because there's hundreds of them all over the fucking place

00:33:35.320 so that 20 can really still fuck you up talk about dave that oh yeah they had people out there

00:33:44.220 pro-regime yeah nobody's denying that 10 to maybe 20 max of the country is pro-regime

00:33:50.940 but what about the 80 of the country that's like if they had a comedy show there was 100 people

00:33:54.500 that magically showed up to Dave's comedy show.

00:33:56.080 Oh, my God, he has so many fans.

00:33:57.640 Dude, there's 100,000 people outside that didn't go to the show.

00:34:00.760 I'm not being, like, brutish or sarcastic,

00:34:02.680 but just you're taking a small sample size

00:34:04.600 and extrapolating that for the entire country.

00:34:06.860 We all know who this regime is.

00:34:09.020 Well, hang on, Adam, just to be...

00:34:09.800 We all know that this is a terrorist regime.

00:34:11.400 Just to be technically correct on that argument you're making,

00:34:14.260 if 100 people turned up to watch Dave's show,

00:34:16.580 then technically over 8 billion chose not to.

00:34:20.800 Correct, and that's pretty uniform at this point.

00:34:23.620 This is really making me feel...

00:34:24.720 Bro, I interrupted him to make a bad joke.

00:34:26.440 Like...

00:34:26.680 Pierce, just moderate, nigga.

00:34:29.200 Like, yo, put the moderation in the bag, bro.

00:34:31.620 Just put the moderation in the bag, man.

00:34:33.620 All right.

00:34:34.580 Niggas aren't here for your takes.

00:34:36.280 Let the Jews fight it out.

00:34:38.240 Bad about my numbers on the road.

00:34:39.400 It doesn't necessarily mean that 8 billion people.

00:34:41.900 It doesn't mean there are 8 billion people who don't like Dave Smith.

00:34:44.320 I used to own a couple...

00:34:45.960 No, it's fine.

00:34:46.640 I mean, I actually do like Dave Smith.

00:34:48.020 Let me tell you a Dave Smith story.

00:34:48.980 I actually have respect for Dave Smith.

00:34:49.980 but I realized who Dave Smith is

00:34:53.000 and I would say this to his face or on camera

00:34:55.020 Dave Smith is a radical libertarian

00:34:58.160 don't take my word for it

00:34:59.400 you've said this multiple times

00:35:00.480 have you not, Dave Smith?

00:35:02.400 said what?

00:35:03.140 that I'm a radical libertarian?

00:35:04.340 yes, absolutely

00:35:04.940 yes, okay, perfect

00:35:06.720 so, okay

00:35:07.800 and?

00:35:11.060 he identifies a fucking tortoise

00:35:13.060 does that matter?

00:35:14.420 what does that have to do with the argument

00:35:15.420 that this war is retarded?

00:35:17.340 like what?

00:35:18.360 when you're something, when you're radical

00:35:19.660 What I believe in is true Americanism.

00:35:23.520 What's another word for radical? Extremist.

00:35:25.180 Okay, this is why you call America...

00:35:26.180 These are all relative terms.

00:35:27.680 This is why you call...

00:35:28.600 Sure, this is why you call the U.S. military

00:35:31.640 the greatest terrorist organization on Earth, right?

00:35:33.880 Because you're a true American?

00:35:35.000 Because you're a true patriot?

00:35:35.900 Is that why, Dave?

00:35:36.900 Because something tells me you have what is known as clickbait of the mouth.

00:35:40.200 And you're using these instances, these wars, to garner attention from...

00:35:44.600 I mean, the thing is that Dave is kind of right about that

00:35:46.800 because we've been involved in perpetual wars literally since World War II, okay?

00:35:52.960 You go Korean War, Vietnam, War on Terror, war across the Middle East,

00:35:57.280 all across the 80s and the 90s, all the intervention that we've done in South America.

00:36:01.320 Like, look, I know it doesn't sound good to say that, but yes,

00:36:04.240 the United States has conducted enormous amounts of terrorism, right?

00:36:09.280 Like, we just have to be very honest here.

00:36:10.480 The definition of terrorism is, you know, participating in acts of violence to push a political ideology.

00:36:19.860 I mean, bro, what are we doing all across the world projecting power?

00:36:22.800 We're pushing our political ideology, a.k.a. democracy, allegedly.

00:36:26.360 Right?

00:36:26.580 We literally called it Operation Iraqi Freedom, invaded a sovereign country on faulty intel that had nothing to do with the original issue, which was 9-11.

00:36:35.120 So, you know, it's just a fact, dude.

00:36:38.140 I hate to say it.

00:36:38.800 the united states government and the uh foreign policy absolutely fits the mold of terrorism

00:36:44.460 let's be honest dude so i don't like that right i don't like that at all but it's true

00:36:51.740 you you're calling you have the american flag behind you yet you have the hypocrisy of saying

00:36:57.000 the united states military united states is the greatest organization the world has ever seen i

00:37:01.580 mean i don't understand what's going on here this is why you're radical i didn't say i didn't say

00:37:04.000 To be fair to Dave,

00:37:07.600 let's replay what he actually said

00:37:09.460 on this show, which caused all the

00:37:11.260 furore led by Ben Shapiro. We'll play what he

00:37:13.360 said, and I'll play what Shapiro said

00:37:15.300 about it, and then we'll come back to Dave for

00:37:17.120 a response. Okay, hold on.

00:37:19.860 I'm about to cook a fucking retard

00:37:21.240 in the chat. Hey, Milk the Young,

00:37:23.260 okay? You

00:37:24.560 have been

00:37:27.340 selected to get roasted, okay?

00:37:29.980 You're going to fucking

00:37:30.980 stand on what you said.

00:37:33.120 Your dumb ass says I can debate you

00:37:35.520 Just because you are making young people

00:37:38.360 Don't mean you smart

00:37:39.220 Like what are you talking about bro

00:37:40.080 And he said he's from Sweden

00:37:41.980 So that's already an L on your end my friend

00:37:44.040 Bro you're a fucking Swede and you're talking shit to me

00:37:47.660 But it's fine milk young

00:37:49.140 How am I wrong retard

00:37:50.200 Let's see what you gotta say in the kick chat

00:37:52.520 How am I wrong retard

00:37:54.800 Let's go

00:37:56.240 Chop chop

00:37:57.280 Type it up we don't got all day for you bro

00:37:59.780 Type it up quickly

00:38:03.220 Because a lot of you motherfuckers like to troll the chat,

00:38:05.040 and then when I call you guys out, you guys, oh, shit.

00:38:07.020 Oh, shit.

00:38:11.340 So let's go, retard.

00:38:12.600 What do you got to say?

00:38:16.100 How am I wrong?

00:38:22.580 As expected.

00:38:25.020 As expected.

00:38:26.860 The IDF is the worst terrorist organization in the region.

00:38:29.380 Let's get real.

00:38:29.880 The United States of America is arguably the worst terrorist organization in the world.

00:38:33.140 If you want to look over the last 25 years, how many innocent civilians we've slaughtered.

00:38:37.100 It doesn't matter, it turns out, how many times you appear on Joe Rogan's show or how many times you hide behind your title of comedian who holds the Guinness Book of World Records for fewest jokes told.

00:38:44.160 Or how many times you spew puerile analogies that demonstrate nothing but unbelievable, willful ignorance of the nature of war.

00:38:50.320 I'm sorry, but you hate the country if you say America is the worst terrorist organization in the world.

00:38:53.840 You just do.

00:38:54.500 Um, okay. When you slap your kid, right, does that mean you hate your kid? When you yell at

00:39:03.320 your kid, does that mean you hate your kid? No, you want them to do better. When your basketball

00:39:08.660 coach makes you do suicides for an extra 20 minutes because you didn't hit the buzzer beater

00:39:12.840 you were supposed to, does that mean they hate you? No. They want you to be better. Okay?

00:39:18.240 valid criticism

00:39:21.200 is how you grow

00:39:22.580 now the problem with Ben Shapiro

00:39:24.380 is he can't take any criticism

00:39:26.260 when it comes to Israel

00:39:27.460 because he knows he's in the wrong

00:39:28.960 the only people that can take criticism

00:39:30.860 are people that understand

00:39:32.640 that self-improvement is important

00:39:33.780 and actually want to improve

00:39:36.180 but the reason why Ben Shapiro

00:39:40.560 loses his mind

00:39:41.460 anytime someone talks shit about Israel

00:39:43.420 is because he knows

00:39:44.460 the Israeli position is indefensible

00:39:47.020 It's an indefensible position

00:39:52.900 So this is why he rage quits

00:39:55.480 Or calls them names

00:39:56.840 Here's the reality

00:39:59.620 Israel illegally occupies the Palestinians

00:40:02.820 Israel illegally occupies the Gaunt Heights

00:40:07.300 The West Bank settlements are illegal

00:40:10.500 Their Prime Minister is wanted by the International Committee

00:40:14.760 And the ICC

00:40:15.240 There's a warrant out for his arrest for war crimes

00:40:16.900 Several genocide experts have concluded, to include Bethlehem, an Israeli-based human rights organization, Human Rights Watch,

00:40:25.240 all of them concluded that what Israel did after October 7th to Gaza was a genocide.

00:40:32.780 As of right now, we have roughly 70,000 people dead, many of which were under the rubble and not identified.

00:40:39.320 By the time we actually get through everything and do all the numbers and tally up the casualties,

00:40:44.140 we're probably going to be looking at hundreds of thousands.

00:40:46.900 so you can clearly see why ben shapiro gets so angry when people talk shit about israel

00:40:53.520 it's one of the few debates that attacks him from his blind spot he could debate retarded college

00:41:01.140 kids on culture war stuff he could debate retarded liberals on things like feminism

00:41:06.400 or transgenderism right all the culture warrior topics that people love but when it comes to this

00:41:13.720 topic of Israel, even though he's a skilled debater, because I will not, you know, Ben Shapiro

00:41:18.520 is intelligent. Let's be clear about that. He is intelligent, okay? He's not stupid whatsoever.

00:41:22.040 This guy's a Harvard grad. I think he got his JD. But even someone like him, with his

00:41:32.180 intelligence, still can't manufacture a coherent, strong, and sensible argument to support

00:41:39.960 israel and really none of the zionists can this is why they get so angry

00:41:46.500 dave smith is super duper excited that his name was mentioned here and he's sitting there shouting

00:41:54.220 at his tv screen in his basement debate me bro to which i answer nah i don't debate with trolls who

00:41:59.200 claim that america is yeah and that then then shut the fuck up dude then honestly like shut

00:42:03.260 the fuck up then like honestly like just shut the fuck up if you're gonna sit there and criticize

00:42:09.840 And I'll be honest with you guys, I think Dave Smith gives a very, I don't want to say watered down, but he gives a very palpable, normie-friendly version of Israel criticism.

00:42:24.340 There we go.

00:42:28.220 He's able to criticize Israel in a politically correct manner that normies can accept.

00:42:35.580 He's also Jewish himself, which gives him an additional layer of coverage and protection.

00:42:46.420 So Dave Smith is good.

00:42:47.620 And let's be honest here, a lot of people bring Dave Smith on to argue this stuff because he's Jewish.

00:42:51.360 I'm not—look, I like Dave.

00:42:53.180 Let me be clear about this.

00:42:54.140 Like, I like Dave Smith.

00:42:54.940 I think he's smart, right?

00:42:57.580 But we have to be painfully honest here that Dave Smith is simply going to get more looks

00:43:03.000 to debate Zionists because he's Jewish himself.

00:43:06.920 It's a layer of protection for the hosts

00:43:09.280 that bring him on the show.

00:43:11.840 You know what I'm saying?

00:43:14.280 I'll give you guys an example of what I mean by this.

00:43:17.120 If I was debating Adam Sosnick, right,

00:43:19.480 instead of Dave Smith,

00:43:20.660 Pierce Morgan would get 10 times more hate.

00:43:23.540 Even if I said the same exact things as Dave,

00:43:26.760 I didn't talk about any of the more controversial topics

00:43:29.240 like world Jewelry, any of that stuff.

00:43:30.760 Let's say I stayed away from all that

00:43:31.800 and I just like went the Zionism angle,

00:43:34.520 he would still get an enormous amount of backlash

00:43:36.880 for hosting me debating Adam, who's Jewish, and a Zionist.

00:43:43.240 So what he's able to do is bring Dave on, have that cover.

00:43:47.660 He's Jewish too.

00:43:48.320 He can't be anti-Semitic because he's Jewish himself.

00:43:50.300 And he can make those arguments.

00:43:52.840 And I've seen many people do this, bring him on for this purpose.

00:43:56.400 And I'm not saying that to take away from what Dave Smith is saying.

00:43:59.760 He's a very sharp, smart guy.

00:44:01.800 But we must be honest that to some degree, to some degree, we must acknowledge the fact that when hosts pick people for panels on this topic, that is absolutely a component into their thinking of who they're going to select.

00:44:22.140 i want to have this debate it's on a racy topic from a group of people that have enormous amount

00:44:29.760 of power and influence on social media let me bring in someone from that group to debate

00:44:35.140 that group's ideology so i can insulate myself and add a layer of protection

00:44:40.620 and i don't blame them i i don't blame these places for doing this but this is why um

00:44:50.980 Dave Smith has kind of been the person that they bring on

00:44:54.060 for this topic, right?

00:44:57.300 And I'll give you guys an example.

00:44:58.980 Dave heavily resources or heavily, excuse me,

00:45:06.600 he heavily references Scott Horton's work, okay?

00:45:11.880 But Scott Horton doesn't get the same amount of looks

00:45:14.240 and debate opportunities as Dave, right?

00:45:17.460 even though dave sourced a lot of his work and he gives credit let me be clear about this like

00:45:23.760 dave always promotes his book you know enough already and everything else like that he shows

00:45:28.100 them an enormous amount of love they're both libertarians but i'm i'm using that as an example

00:45:32.320 for you guys so you understand that strategically speaking as if you're a podcast host or you run

00:45:38.040 some type of show it is far more strategically beneficial for you to bring dave on versus

00:45:45.740 someone else, even if they say the same exact thing because of optics.

00:45:52.040 So the fact that Mr. Ben Shapiro, I'm going to bring this all back and tie this up for you guys

00:45:56.400 in a bow, the reason why Mr. Shapiro here is a bitch is because Dave is also Jewish.

00:46:03.000 Dave actually knows what he's talking about. He's a competent debater. The reason why you don't want

00:46:09.120 to debate him, Mr. Harvard grad and the intelligent JD and all this other stuff, the reason why you

00:46:14.020 don't want to debate them is because you understand that the defense of Israel is a losing position

00:46:18.200 every single fucking time, dude. That is why. It's an unwinnable debate. Foreign support for

00:46:27.200 the state of Israel provides zero strategic benefit to the United States. Now, some of you

00:46:35.380 might say, Martin, that's not true. Well, if you don't listen to it from me, I think I have someone

00:46:41.080 that's far more credible you make the observation in your book and you say exhibit a former president

00:46:57.140 richard nixon that you've said it many times when you were president of the united states that no

00:47:01.580 president is ever going to desert israel right correct i put it more bluntly i said as i told

00:47:08.640 congressional leaders during the 1973 yon kippur war no american president will let israel go down

00:47:15.040 the tube all right democrat or republican it's not an issue that is stated fairly categorically

00:47:19.940 and yet in your book you make it clear at the same time that israel really is not of any

00:47:25.600 enormous strategic value oh what was that chat what what was that

00:47:31.400 to the united states anymore in your book you make it clear at the same time that israel really

00:47:40.600 is not of any enormous strategic value to the united states anymore that's correct

00:47:46.160 i mean

00:47:51.660 i don't want to say i'm right but i'm fucking right

00:47:59.220 this is a former president united states he led the country during one of the most

00:48:05.360 volatile times in the 70s yom kippur war vietnam fucking um

00:48:11.460 uh the oil crisis

00:48:17.260 serial killers running wild the 1970s were the worst decade by the way chat

00:48:23.120 inflation was through the roof a lot of people don't talk about that the 70s were fucking terrible

00:48:29.220 The mafia was at its highest.

00:48:31.020 All the most prominent serial killers were operating.

00:48:34.060 Police departments weren't sophisticated yet.

00:48:39.140 Inflation, gas issues, wars.

00:48:42.060 Bruh, the 1970s was, it was a very influential time.

00:48:44.740 Don't get it twisted.

00:48:45.840 I would say the 1960s probably is the most,

00:48:47.560 in modern era, has been the most influential.

00:48:49.960 But the 1970s are not far behind.

00:48:52.780 But I would argue that the 1970s was like

00:48:54.460 the worst time to be in America, probably.

00:48:56.460 so anyway

00:48:59.820 oh milky didn't respond of course he didn't he's a retard so he's gonna get sent to the

00:49:04.660 shadow on bro he's i gave that motherfucker a chance bro the biggest terrorist state in the

00:49:08.360 world because that is idiotic um no it is actually factually true but again he doesn't

00:49:13.660 want to debate dave smith because he's scared bro as always so dave as you know that all right

00:49:18.480 what the fuck did milky say then bro somebody copy and paste what the fuck his dumb ass said

00:49:22.600 blew up a lot of debate raged about running a fucking show here i don't got time to fucking

00:49:26.440 like just stare at the chat for some fucking random retard from sweden uh that's gonna make

00:49:30.900 an incoherent 50 iq fucking argument which i'm sure he's going to uh just let me clarify what

00:49:36.660 you what you meant do you regret phrasing it the way you did just give us a bit more meat on the

00:49:41.060 bone uh no i don't i don't regret uh phrasing it the way i did and i'll i'll be very clear about

00:49:45.940 what i'm saying i will i will point out that it's quite something for ben shapiro just since you

00:49:49.280 played him i gotta respond to him first that he goes oh i just won't debate with this guy because

00:49:53.400 this is so beyond the pale ben shapiro made his name debating 19 year old i'm watching you guys

00:49:59.400 from sweden and you are what

00:50:01.200 amen the king uh amen the king i i uh i appreciate your fucking dumb like run-on sentence uh but

00:50:21.720 yeah, bro, I've said this already. You're not, you're preaching to the choir, bro. I've been

00:50:24.740 saying that I'm more Semitic than these, than, than these Ashkenazis. I've been saying that for

00:50:28.100 years, bro. Like go with the program, bro. It must be new here. Communist Maoists who were confused

00:50:33.120 about their gender. So somehow peers, we're going to have to believe here that I'm so much less

00:50:37.220 serious than the children who Ben Shapiro made a career debating. I loved your response to him,

00:50:41.100 where you pointed out some of the goofy segments that he does on his show. I mean, personally,

00:50:43.820 I really stay away from that stuff. And, um, you know, for Adam, I think to say it's clickbait or

00:50:47.760 that I just want to get out in front of the camera. I think we're all equally. I don't think

00:50:51.060 his clickbait at all like dave smith is extremely measured and very politically correct

00:50:54.900 he definitely doesn't um he definitely doesn't do shit for the clicks in front of a camera right

00:51:03.300 now and it's kind of weird to accuse someone else i very much believe the things i'm saying

00:51:06.640 now to adam's point don't run from your comment i'm trying to address the comment not ben shapiro

00:51:12.840 would you good your take let's go wrap it up no i'm gonna make the points i want to make

00:51:17.180 You called the United States.

00:51:18.900 Bruh.

00:51:20.760 He didn't interrupt you when you talked, man.

00:51:25.480 It's Millets.

00:51:26.100 You're just slowing.

00:51:26.860 Okay, so I'm going to go in the exact order.

00:51:29.180 Milky Young says the fact that I'm watching from Sweden is a good thing.

00:51:32.680 No, you're a retard because you called me a pussy.

00:51:35.000 Don't fucking run away from what you said.

00:51:36.660 You said literally Myron is pussy seriously.

00:51:39.940 Give me a chance to debate with you.

00:51:41.780 Stop acting like you know it all.

00:51:43.240 Yeah, bro, get the fuck out of my chat, nigga.

00:51:44.480 You had many chances to say something.

00:51:47.180 And now you're back to, oh, the fact that I'm watching you is a good thing.

00:51:50.800 Well, you know what, bro?

00:51:51.320 Go watch from the Shadow Realm, nigga.

00:51:52.720 Time to send you to the Shadow Realm.

00:51:56.880 The future is mine.

00:51:58.740 I hear the Shadow Realm.

00:51:59.480 I hear they got good internet down there, bro.

00:52:02.860 Fuck out of here.

00:52:05.980 Terry, the greatest terror organization in the world.

00:52:08.400 Adam, just let me answer.

00:52:10.000 No problem.

00:52:10.600 I'm going to go back to the order I was going to go in.

00:52:12.180 To Adam's point, when Adam says I'm a radical libertarian,

00:52:14.660 and I say that this is true Americanism,

00:52:16.340 I mean, look, my favorite founding father is Thomas Paine.

00:52:19.340 Not everyone considers him a founding father.

00:52:20.900 And maybe I love him so much because he never held a government position

00:52:22.660 and didn't own slaves, which I thought was pretty cool.

00:52:24.660 But Benjamin Franklin said he was the most consequentialist

00:52:26.680 and the one person most responsible for the United States of America existing.

00:52:29.820 His famous pamphlet that he wrote was called Common Sense.

00:52:32.120 And I think on the first or second line of it, he says,

00:52:34.220 government is at best a necessary evil.

00:52:37.500 Guys, just so you know, in about five minutes,

00:52:39.060 I'm going to get off of YouTube and Rumble.

00:52:41.460 I'm going to go only fucking kick.

00:52:44.380 I'm moving everybody over to kick here soon.

00:52:46.320 So get ready.

00:52:47.580 I'll drop the link for you guys.

00:52:49.260 You guys got like another minute or two.

00:52:52.260 But Kik is my main platform, guys.

00:52:55.000 Okay?

00:52:56.060 Kik is the main platform now for my streams, for the debrief.

00:53:01.420 So I'm moving everybody from Rumble and YouTube here soon.

00:53:05.760 There's no ads.

00:53:09.520 Let's get over to my goal.

00:53:11.020 We got to get 3,000 live viewers.

00:53:13.500 The goal is 3,000 live viewers on Kik.

00:53:15.680 Okay, guys?

00:53:16.240 so we're going to move everybody here very soon oh so at best he's like this is clearly on the

00:53:25.620 and obviously all it's that's because you guys already know you guys are good you don't got

00:53:28.360 to worry about shit you just stay where you're at just to night watchman state spectrum was what

00:53:35.280 true americanism was when it started now for me to say what i made the point i've made this point

00:53:38.800 a million times on your show peers i'm saying when people come on and say iran is the biggest

00:53:42.100 state sponsor of terrorism well just like give me an objective definition of what terrorism means

00:53:46.420 and then let's apply that standard universally there you go big facts big facts because when

00:53:55.600 they well let's see what dave says then i'll give you guys what i think or do you guys want me to

00:53:58.840 give you what i think first then see what he says i haven't seen this you know i'll just give you

00:54:01.820 guys what i say first the reason why they call i ran the biggest sponsor of state terrorism is

00:54:05.580 because of this okay so you got the axis of resistance okay now the axis of resistance has

00:54:13.600 encompasses uh multiple different factions right of uh arab slash muslim uh resistance groups so

00:54:21.000 you got um you got the khuds irgc hamas hezbollah um ansar Allah aka uh the houthis right but the

00:54:35.000 thing that they don't tell you is that all of these groups were created in response to israeli

00:54:38.140 aggression okay and occupation so um when they say that and iran obviously like funds and supports

00:54:46.660 all of these these groups which is fine look i i agree that they're a terrorist organization by

00:54:50.220 the way okay some idiot said stop calling it axe bros implies back shut the bro get the fuck out

00:54:56.020 my chat bro get the fuck out of here man you bitch ass nigga get the fuck out of here bro

00:54:59.560 idiot trying to tell me how to fucking define things get enjoy the chat around bro

00:55:05.000 Fucking idiot.

00:55:06.820 I'm going to get exes.

00:55:10.960 You not realize we live in America, dumbass?

00:55:14.740 Using it as a term so everyone understands what I'm talking about.

00:55:18.080 Holy shit.

00:55:21.040 Idiot.

00:55:22.160 Anyway.

00:55:24.480 So the reason why they're called the biggest terrorist backer

00:55:27.940 is because they fund all these resistance groups, right?

00:55:33.460 Against Israeli aggression.

00:55:34.620 But like I said before, you can make the argument the other way around as well.

00:55:38.240 You know, there's a famous saying, one person's terrorist is another person's freedom fighter.

00:55:41.540 It is what it is.

00:55:44.820 You just have to be very honest about that.

00:55:46.760 And if you're going to sit here and say, look, America has given billions, tens of billions of dollars to the IDF in the last few years.

00:55:52.640 We've also, by the way, given a lot of weapons and money here.

00:55:54.880 Your first guest on the show there, the head of the Obama deep state, was using al-Qaeda bin Laden headchoppers on the ground in Libya and in Syria.

00:56:02.000 And yes, Adam, I would also consider it when our politicians lie us into wars that slaughter

00:56:06.740 millions of innocent people and in many cases target those innocent people, I consider that

00:56:10.680 terrorism as well. There's the answer, Adam. And if you want to keep doing this, buddy, you can tell

00:56:14.320 me to check the scoreboard. I'll run circles around you on this, dude. Check the scoreboard.

00:56:17.460 Most unpopular war in American history going in. Check the scoreboard. 13 dead Americans and 150

00:56:23.520 plus other wounded. Thousands of innocents, including little schools. I think it's up to

00:56:27.300 like 300 now i'm almost certain it's like 300 and that that's what's like reported so you know i

00:56:35.000 mean

00:56:35.200 girls in iran killed dead innocent israelis hundreds of dead innocent people in lebanon

00:56:50.280 millions of innocent people being displaced all at the cost of tens of billions of dollars and

00:56:54.780 destroying Trump's coalition. Check your scoreboard, Adam. How's it looking for you?

00:56:58.640 Okay, Dave. Okay, it's not working well for you, Dave, because you're still saying the United

00:57:03.020 States, you're saying that you're saying the United States is a terrorist organization.

00:57:06.700 You've already lost the debate. You live in America, tough guy. You have the luxury of

00:57:10.760 sitting in your little studio with your hooded sweater like you're 17 years old.

00:57:14.960 The regime, you mean all American presidents? Who's your favorite president in the last 50 years?

00:57:19.080 Adam, I'm 17 years old.

00:57:21.100 It's a bit over 50 years, but JFK.

00:57:24.780 I have a wife in the last president to stand up to the Zionist lobby. He got killed for it though

00:57:32.380 He was the last fucking president to stand up to the fucking Zionist lobby, bro real nigga JFK man R.I.P

00:57:38.620 Children who depends on you Adam your mom

00:57:42.380 Okay, I also

00:57:45.500 You have a significant

00:57:49.500 Respond to one. I don't care. Yeah, I mean Adam you were the first one to say Adam would attack

00:57:54.580 him first with ad-homs like how he's dressed and shit like that like bro debate the topic like

00:57:59.740 debate the topic but again like i told you guys before like this is an unwinnable position

00:58:03.080 so be prepared to let you're gonna see adam do a lot of fucking um you know ad-homs etc

00:58:08.740 like if ben shapiro can't even argue this shit adam definitely can't because ben shapiro is way

00:58:15.080 smarter than him so he's cooked you know adam some substance i don't care i know because you

00:58:21.680 don't know anything you're a radical move on so stop picking a fight with me dude you don't know

00:58:25.280 anything about anything you're pat's god i know here's what i like you i respect pat dave okay

00:58:31.500 here we go i'll talk now for a second i'm defending the military right now you're basically

00:58:35.920 saying that all our boys that go to the military are all terrorists that's what you're saying no

00:58:40.140 you're quitting that uh the united states of america the idf are the equivalent of isis and

00:58:44.860 al-qaeda by the way yes they are uh i would argue the idf is absolutely because here's the thing i

00:58:50.620 i will concede that if you look at the actual objective definition of terrorism hezbollah

00:58:55.540 hamas um uh you know irgc whatever they could they could fit that definition if you look at

00:59:03.200 the objective definition of terrorism however uh the idf is absolutely a fucking terrorist

00:59:07.500 organization too and i would argue the idf is a worse terrorist organization than all than all

00:59:13.020 of those fucking groups

00:59:15.300 so if we're going to go ahead and be objective here and use objective definitions

00:59:21.240 you know t's cross i's dotted and we're being literal and proper fantastic yes hezbollah

00:59:30.420 hamas irgc the bashar uh bashar al-assad regime all them probably in some way or fashion fit into

00:59:37.740 the stand the the objective definition of terrorism however if we're going to use this

00:59:43.960 subjective definition i would argue that the idf fits that mold even better so in other words

00:59:50.880 both parties are terrorists so now that we've established both parties are terrorists who is

00:59:59.000 the bigger offender of said terrorism i think irrefutably at this point if you look at it from

01:00:03.840 a numerical perspective a destruction perspective a casualty perspective it is the israelis it

01:00:11.360 doesn't even fucking come close if you looked at idf casualties right versus hezbollah casualties

01:00:19.900 irgc casualties syrian casualties houthi casualties

01:00:24.120 palestinian casualties in gaza the idf is running circles circles on all of these groups combined

01:00:35.960 and that my friends

01:00:41.940 is

01:00:44.080 the truth

01:00:45.300 also used to respect you until

01:00:48.120 until you went on a little podcast

01:00:50.300 called Coleman Hughes

01:00:51.420 what happened on that podcast Dave this is the problem

01:00:54.220 yeah see here's the issue with Adam too

01:00:56.220 Adam gets so emotional

01:00:57.880 like he went ahead and like you know

01:01:00.040 attacked me when they had Andrew Tate

01:01:02.340 on oh why are you friends with

01:01:04.080 Myron, oh, he's a Nazi now, blah, blah, blah,

01:01:06.740 all this other bullshit.

01:01:07.220 It's like, bro, like, why are you so emotional, man?

01:01:11.800 Why do you get so mad about me fucking criticizing Israel

01:01:13.780 and Jewish power in America?

01:01:14.760 Bro, like, what's going on here, man?

01:01:17.280 I don't get mad when people criticize Muslims.

01:01:18.740 Like, I don't fucking cry.

01:01:19.940 If they're right, they're right.

01:01:20.840 Like, I'm actually able to separate myself

01:01:24.320 from, like, a group that I might identify with or as.

01:01:28.760 Like, I am totally okay with people criticizing my group

01:01:31.080 if they make objective and true observations.

01:01:34.080 Right? If someone says, yo, praying at Times Square is fucking retarded, I would be like, you know what? It is fucking retarded. But wait, aren't you Muslim? Yeah. But it is retarded. I can do that. I have that capability of doing that. It's actually a sign of higher IQ.

01:01:49.760 okay and the ability to um to understand that the world doesn't doesn't live around you

01:01:59.120 okay you can have unpopular opinions that go against the tribe that you align with you can do

01:02:05.160 that and honestly i would argue that makes you far more credible so anyway guys come on over to uh

01:02:15.640 to kick we're getting off uh we're getting off youtube and we're getting off rumble okay come

01:02:19.960 on over to kick we're making a switch right now you guys know what time it is let's fucking go

01:02:22.740 we're going we're going over there right now i got rumble up i'm gonna close the stream on rumble

01:02:27.080 we the show goes on on um on kick only guys i'm taking everything else off like i told you guys

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01:02:42.400 a lot more than you guys know if you like it really does help me a lot so um come on over

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The Debrief With MyronGainesX - March 25, 2026

Max Afterburner, PBD And Enforcer Are WRONG On The Iran War. Here's Why..

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