News Coverage And Everything They Told Us About 9⧸11 Was a Lie...
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3 hours and 49 minutes
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133.04333
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153
Summary
In this episode, I speak with the man who took the footage from the scene of the shooting of Charlie Kirk. We talk about how he handled the situation, why he refused to release the footage, and why he decided to hand it over to me.
Transcript
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he's, you know, he's, you know, He's, you know, you're his, he's, you know, he's,
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debunk that by seeing this footage. Like, could you send this footage over to me? Well, he didn't
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want to send the footage over to me without checking with Turning Point lawyers. I said,
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look, technically you own the footage. Like you, you know, you and some other people own the
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footage. Like, let me just see the footage because why, why go through lawyers? I just
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want to see the footage. And also I asked the question, why not just release it? We've already
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seen the worst thing that you could possibly see from the front, right? Like the front is what is
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a traumatizing video. And I understand that he wants to afford his wife some protection. Like
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this has to experience that Erica, so many people watching the love of your life in the last second
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of their life. It's traumatizing. I'm traumatized by it, right? That's not my husband, the father of
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my children. And so out of a loyalty to Erica, he also doesn't want to give more footage to the
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internet. But I said, look, I'm not going to publish it. I just want to see it. And I think
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you should let me see that because people trust me. They know that I'm very serious about this.
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I don't care about anything right now other than figuring out who killed Charlie Kirk.
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So in the short run, he agrees that rather than send the footage, he will get onto a FaceTime call
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with me and he will show me the footage on his computer. He did that. And I watched the footage
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and I'm going to tell you what I saw. And to the people specifically, the people that are in the
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military, people that know weapons, I'm telling you this because you might be able to add more color
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or more clarity here, what you would expect to see. If given the weapon that they have said did this,
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the bullet they have said did this. I don't know anything about any of this. So I'm just telling
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you what I saw. Okay. First and foremost, there was nothing gory about this shot at all. And so
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again, I am still going to go into work with him to get me the footage so that I think it should be
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shared. There's nothing, there's nothing gory about this footage from the back. The thing that really
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stood out to me, and I just kept asking him to replay it over and over and over again,
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is that there's no blood. There's no blood from the back. There's, there is no blood. So I think a lot
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of people were wondering whether or not that bullet pierced and went out the back. I think I vaguely
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even remember, and Skylar, you can maybe live look this up. But like I thought. And I heard that she's not
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going to be going to the, I think there's a memorial in Phoenix that she won't be going to.
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So I'll kind of let you guys see what I saw in my timeline.
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Yes, I'll be in Phoenix to pay my respects to Charlie Kirk to take a stand against political
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violence. I'll be there to support several of my friends who work for TPSA and support
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I'll be there to watch Erica Kirk, President Trump, and J.D. Vance deliver remarks.
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And she said that she's not going because she's not welcome.
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First and foremost, at least that's what she's saying.
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I said, there is no way we are going to this event now. There's a 0% chance. First and foremost,
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why are you saying anybody can go to it? You just buy a ticket to the event.
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And you're all working to try to get me to confirm that I'm going.
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And you're doing this as if you're trying to push my buttons and be like, we got to make
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her get into her ego so she shows up and posts it on social media. Nope, actually.
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While I'm attacking the feds, maybe not going to a public event, which the feds are organizing
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You know what I'm going to do? I'm going to listen to power on my headphones and go see
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yay. How's that for a memorial for Charlie Kirk? That feels like the right thing for
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me to do right now. I said, there is no way we are going to this event now.
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So she's alleging there's a 0% chance that she wasn't welcome.
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And she's saying, Laura Loomer says, after spending the entire week grifting like an absolute
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lunatic, trying to monetize the murder of her famous Boston best friend, Charlie Kirk,
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real Candace announced, or well, this Candace she's saying, announced today that she isn't
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going to his memorial because she's going to be hanging out with yay instead. So then
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she then said, you can help her solve the murder of her friend, Charlie Kirk by buying her
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merchandise. Why does she need to hawk shitty ass merch that rips off the CIA when her husband
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George Farmer is worth over 250 million and is set to inherit billions of dollars from
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his elderly father. This is sick and pathetic. Yeah, we are totally going to solve the murder
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of Charlie Kirk by listening to Candace scream about how Netanyahu is tied to Charlie's death
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and how there was no blood visible when Charlie was shot, even though we all saw it gushing
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out of his jugular. I'm sick of these insane videos from Candace Owens. It's not even crazy
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anymore. It's just concerning. If she believes it, it makes me wonder if there's a deeper issue
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What are you lying about? Very strange. Is there like, are you being paid to lie? Or do you
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actually believe those lies? I don't know. But all I know is that I'm not going to get
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distracted by them. We are going to solve the murder of my friend, Charlie Kirk. And
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if you guys would like to support us, we are independent. As I tell you, you can sign up
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at our website, CandaceOwns.com. Buy yourself this. This is pretty bomb. Yep. Our CIA line.
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This is the Candace Intelligence Agency. Some people think that it actually says like CIA,
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Decentralized Intelligence Agency. I love it. Our products are great. And that's where you
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can just show support and show some love. In the meantime, let's just bop some Kanye power
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this weekend. I'm going to hit him up. That's what we're going to do. I'll see you guys on
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So, yeah, I mean, well, Laura and Candace have been going back and forth for a minute, though.
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Like, I remember last year they were going back and forth as well.
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So, let's go ahead and go to this real quick. Dairy Queen photo.
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All right, let's get into some of your comments. First, I want to tell you guys the
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Dairy Queen photo. Some of you guys noticed that there was this old Superman poster and
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that Superman in the background there, that poster, you said they removed those ads back
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in June or July. You are correct. That's when that movie came out. And that's when they were
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scheduled to remove those ads. But rest assured, first and foremost, for two reasons that that is
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not, definitely, it's not footage from July. July, just so you guys understand, there is not
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a place in the world that would have the bandwidth to keep 24-hour footage inside of their restaurant
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dating back months. It auto-deletes, I think, the footage at my house because we have cameras
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absolutely everywhere. I think it's like every 48 hours, every 72 hours. I think the highest you
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might see that is one week. This is absolutely. By the way, how would that person have known to go
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back to July? Could you imagine having to scroll the footage and be like, I think I one time saw
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that person in July eating something here. Let's go back and scrub. That definitely did not happen.
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The source we had was very solid. It was very specific. And also saying that they threw away
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clothes in the nearby cemetery was very specific. This person was very confident when they shared
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it. But also, something else that lets you date it, to pull back up that photo, is behind,
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right? They're advertising available now. What that actually is, is a, and I don't remember the name
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of it. It's, I don't know why it sounds like a maple leaf blizzard thing. It's maple leaf
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something. That dropped and they began using those advertisements for that drink on August 31st.
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So the absolute earliest that could have been taken is August 31st. And that's if they put up
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that advertisement immediately. Yes, the maple cookie shake. That's what it was. They began
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advertising on August 31st. So it's not from July. And like I said, I feel very confident about our
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source and we are taking a look at everything. You guys have sent me so much more, by the way,
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which I'm going to get into this weekend in memorial of Charlie Kirk about the house next door,
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some weird stuff that was happening at that house, but has been advertised at that vacant house where
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the locals believe that's the real place that they should have went to. And people are telling
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me a lot of stuff about CIA action at UVU, some programs that they had been running, that there's
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a pipeline from people at UVU to people that go and work for the CIA. So there's a lot to investigate,
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but I also want to be given the time to fact check everything so that we don't go after the wrong
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people. Again, if you have any tips, any photos, you know where to send them. Candace, I mean,
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that's not right. Don't send it there. Tips at CandaceOwens.com. And yeah, for those of you guys
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who have supported this. So yeah, I'm going to definitely do a whole thing on this for you guys
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very soon. Covering all the different theories. Crazy shit. Oh, wow. Look, oh, this chick is suing
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somebody. This. Oh, what the hell? Look at this. Social media star Isabella Ladera, who has millions
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their sex tape. We are going to break. What is this creature? Break down the lawsuit,
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the potential evidence, the arguments, and we're going to do it all with an attorney who specializes
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in these kinds of cases. Welcome to Sidebar presented by Law and Crime. I'm Jesse Weber.
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We have this new celebrity legal battle that has just begun. It involves 26 year old.
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Bro, these girls are fucking thrilled. Do you think most school shooters were white men?
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It's all part of the narrative, dude. It's all part of the narrative. And this is from the debate
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yesterday. So it looks like a Charlie fan, a Charlie Kirk supporter gets into it with Destiny. Let's
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react to this and we're going to cover 9-11 after. You know it. Go ahead. Preach. We're in church right
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now. Go ahead. They said that the guy that shot Charlie was a Republican. He wasn't. Can you answer me
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this? Trans people are such effective assassins. Why'd we kick them all out of the military?
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Looking at this one right here? I want to get this thing a gun. Get the fuck out of here. Get this
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loser out of here. Are you serious? Why are you pointing out people in the audience and bullying
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people? Are you serious? At the aftermath of this event, Charlie Kirk has almost become a martyr
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for the right. You think that the killing of conservatives and the fear of conservatives to
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be killed is going to turn down the temperature of their leaders. But I was just at the vigil and I'll
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tell you what, the temperature has only risen. So why do you think that the temperature is going to
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go down for leaders like Donald Trump that, you know, I saw you at the plaza speaking about earlier
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clearly not turning down their rhetoric at all? Yeah, I mean, I don't think the rhetoric is going
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to turn down because I don't think Donald Trump has any desire to turn it down. I think the left has
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been disavowing violence and calling for a decrease in the rhetoric for like the past decade. And for
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some reason, for some reason, Republicans seem completely and utterly unwilling to do it.
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For everybody that's saying bullshit right now, I welcome you to go look at Joe Biden's Twitter
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to see what Kamala Harris has said, see what Barack Obama... He is correct. Yes, all the top Democrats
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have absolutely disavowed violence. That's fine. But the problem is, the problem is that these are
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obviously the highest level of politicians in the Democratic Party. But leftists in general,
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people, okay, are able to conduct these acts of violence. And I'll explain what I mean by this,
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right? So I've told you guys this before, and I'll say it again.
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These leftist groups, right? Because I've been talking about Antifa and BLM being terrorist
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organizations for years, like five years plus, okay? If you guys have been watching me or if you guys
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follow me on X or any of this other stuff, you guys already know that. I've always said Antifa
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and BLM are radical left organizations that literally personify what terrorism is, right?
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After Charlie Kirk was tragically assassinated, Donald Trump said, you know what, we're going to put
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these guys on a list. But for years, Antifa was able to openly have meetings, Facebook groups,
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demonstrate, meet up, et cetera. And I've told you guys this too, the reason why leftists,
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excuse me, leftist groups are able to conduct the violence that they do is because they're able
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to organize. And the reason why they're able to organize is because they don't get the attention
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of law enforcement like conservative groups do. Does that make sense? So a group like Patriot Front,
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for example, right? Thomas Russo, the founder of it, gets banned, taken off everything.
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The federal law enforcement agencies are trying to penetrate that organization, right? Calling them
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like an alt-right or far-right white supremacy group. They're constantly under the eyes of law
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enforcement agencies. Meanwhile, organizations like the BLM and Antifa don't get the same level of
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scrutiny from law enforcement, okay? And this is what I mean when I say right-wing groups deal with
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consequences for their actions versus left-wing groups don't. It took the murder of Charlie Kirk
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for the U.S. government to take these leftist groups seriously, right? January 6th happens.
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Everyone gets arrested. FBI opens up one of the biggest cases ever and arrests almost every single
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person, whether they went to the building or not. Everyone was charged, right? Go to the BLM riots
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all across the United States. Did everyone there get arrested and charged? No. It was so reckless
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that you look at someone like Kyle Renthouse, right? He's there to try to help people out and he gets
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attacked by wild leftists and has to shoot like two of them as they're coming at him with a skateboard
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and shit, right? So violence on the left isn't necessarily conducted by the highest members of
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the Democratic Party, right? Because what that's he saying here is like, hey, look, after Charlie was
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shot, every single Democrat, leading Democrat came out and said that political violence is unacceptable.
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Fine. I understand that. However, it's not the high-level Democrats or Democrat politicians that are
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the biggest issues. It's the constituents. It's the left in general because they're allowed to
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organize, have these groups, not deal with consequences for having said groups, and then
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they're able to act absolutely nuts in a lot of these cities, okay? They have far more ability
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to mobilize and conduct criminal activity without the same level of scrutiny by law enforcement as
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right-wing groups. Right-wing groups are constantly being targeted by federal law enforcement agencies
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or local law enforcement agencies and being, trying to be penetrated by informants and everything else
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like that than left-wing groups. Now, hopefully, we'll see the tide turn where this administration
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is going to go a little bit harder on these leftist groups and they're going to be able to,
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you know, force some of these activities or stop them before doing their violent acts.
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But Antifa is absolutely violent. They are. 100%.
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As many of these left-wing groups are. And the reason why they're violent is because they have
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not dealt with the same level of consequence as right-wing groups. January 6th versus BLM is a
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perfect example. Because when BLM was rioting and destroying all these cities after the George Floyd
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death, it was them and Antifa and all these other radical left-wing groups that were hitting the
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streets saying, fuck fascism, fuck the police, Black Lives Matter. They work together.
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So, when people say, oh, you know, conservatives are more violent, that's not true at all.
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Because conservatives go to jail when they do anything violent. Leftists don't.
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Does that make sense, Chad? Give me ones if that makes sense.
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And then you can go ahead and post me what Donald Trump has said in response to everything,
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which is just a call for more violence, basically, on the right.
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So, I understand what you were saying earlier. You were saying that the left doesn't have a need
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to disavow. Like, that should be on the conservatives. But I feel like-
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Everybody should disavow. That's why I'm here. That's why I'm speaking with you.
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But what I'm getting at, it's not about the president. It's not about the leadership.
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It's about you promoting this violence, saying that conservatives need to be afraid of dying at events.
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Violent, violent conflict for political beliefs in the United States is not good for anybody.
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I feel like that here exists on the left. Nobody wants to see the violence.
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For some reason, it feels like the right feels like they're invincible
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and that they can go out and say the craziest things and invite, like, all of the conflict
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A lot of it is just rooted in traditional religious stuff.
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Men and women are different. There's two genders.
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Women shouldn't be 304s. Men should be providers.
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Like, it's not anything that we haven't heard in society for a long time.
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You can say it. I mean, just watch, look at what Donald Trump says.
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I invite somebody up here to tell me how Donald Trump has disavowed violence
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without blaming Biden or the left when you come up here.
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No one's going to have anything to say because he hasn't done it.
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So I don't know if the feeling is just that the right is inviting conflict.
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They don't think it's a big deal. I can't tell. I genuinely can't tell.
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I mean, I think the temperature that I'm gathering,
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and while, you know, as a conservative, I don't follow the demagogues on the right.
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You don't follow the leader of your party, the political party?
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You're not my party. I'm a conservative, but I'm also registered as an independent.
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The thing that I want to ask you is you need to make a statement very firmly condemning violence.
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And when you say things and you go on Pierce Morgan and you continually say that the right needs to disavow,
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so do you. All of us need to. That's the point of this tour.
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We've been disavowing for 10 years. The right refuses to do it.
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It's not about... My question is not about left versus right.
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My question is about your recent remarks. That's all I'm trying to get at.
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If you don't even care what the president has to say on violence, why do you care what I have to say?
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I also care what the president says. My point is that I'm not...
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I also think, Destiny, that you have a role in doing this because you represent...
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You don't think so when you have such a big platform.
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Not as big as the United States, not as big as J.D. Vance, not as big as Nancy Mace, not as big as all these lawmakers, cabinet members, presidents, vice presidents, podcasters, alternative media guys on the right, everybody from the Daily Wire, Steve Bannon, Hiddick Show, all of these guys...
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Yeah, but none of us advocate for violence, man. That's the difference.
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You guys are saying the left is the enemy. The radical left Democrats is one of the causes.
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They had a whole conspiracy letter about who the shooter was before they even knew anything about him at all.
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So, I'm sorry. The idea that you're up here saying, like, your rhetoric is responsible is a joke.
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I don't believe that your rhetoric is responsible at all.
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I'm saying that the promotion of this continual rhetoric will only feed into the right.
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This is only feeding into the people that you are saying need to disavow violence.
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To say, I want everybody in this country to disavow violence to feed into the right.
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When I say, I want everybody in this country to be able to disavow violence, how does that feed into the right?
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When you say that conservatives need to be afraid of dying at events that turn down...
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I've said that everybody should have a healthy fear of political violence. We shouldn't want it to happen.
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So then say everybody. You should have said that.
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You've said this for over a decade, but you guys don't hear it.
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Exactly. How many J6ers did Donald Trump pardon?
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What kind of a message is it sending to your base?
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Yeah, that's because the BLM writers didn't go to jail.
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They were not aggressively targeted by the FBI.
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It took someone like Sir Major, who was openly stealing money from the campaign, right, from the BLM campaign, doing overt fraud, okay, because he was buying hookers.
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That's why I say FBI stands for frequently buying ass.
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Dude took donations from BLM and bought hookers, guns, and houses with it and went to jail.
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So, yes, there's no need to pardon people, BLMers, because they didn't go to prison.
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They had to do over-criminal activity to go to jail.
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To say that you can commit violence on my behalf, to install me as a leader, and if you get caught, I'll pardon you.
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There's a lot of implicit assumptions that you're making.
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You're assuming, you're assuming that I support January 6th.
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Yeah, but you're generalizing me as a part of the Republican right when I'm standing here.
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No, because we're talking about the political parties right now.
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I'm standing here with a club, and we are trying to promote dialogue here.
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That's all I'm concerned about, and all I'm asking you is that as a conservative, where I have faced this fear for, you know, years,
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where I've also dealt with threats of violence, that's why I'm here.
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That's why I'm doing this, because I also don't stand with the demagogues that are calling for violence against the left as well.
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That's fine, but so if you say that violence is the thing that worries you, if I were to go through your Twitter account,
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is there a single tweet of yours criticizing the president for his rhetoric?
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I don't engage in online rhetoric, because I think that it's pointless.
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I don't really use Twitter to be engaged in politics when I'm part of large political organizations on campus.
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I'm engaging with my enemies in person, not on the screen.
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Just a quick note, if you're not asking a question, you can't be in the aisles.
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We need them clear for like ADA something, safety, safety.
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Real question here, sorry, I hate you with the Trump.
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Believe me, Destiny, you're not the master debater.
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Serious question with the name of your movement.
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These guys think we give a fuck about their impersonations.
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Like, dude, just fucking ask the question, man.
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I thought what you said was pretty intellectual, and I enjoyed what you said.
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Because my semantic question is, how do you unfuck something?
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Once you have done the deed, it's like the Virgin Mary is no longer a virgin after that point.
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That's just, I just don't know what's your point with that.
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Well, you're going to have to ask the people in charge of branding.
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Any last, one last question, and then we're going to move on.
01:18:43.280
Unfuck America, could you explain what that means to you?
01:18:45.440
Because with Charlie Kirk and Turning Point, he said, we're going to make a turning point
01:18:50.020
For you, what does Unfuck America mean, in your words?
01:18:52.820
For me, personally, I think that right now we are living in, I mean, it's already been
01:18:55.820
demonstrated, completely and totally separate realities at this point.
01:18:58.300
All right, guys, last day for getting an OSS for a dollar, we're going to cover 9-11
01:19:08.640
Jews did 9-11 as a code, 9-1-1, Jews did 9-1-1.
01:19:13.920
We're going to talk about other, it wasn't just them.
01:19:16.220
It was also the American Deep State and Saudi Arabia as well.
01:19:22.740
Point to where we can't even agree on what's happened on either side.
01:19:26.400
And if we have an inability to connect on even basic facts, I don't know how we have
01:19:30.080
any conversation to move literally any aspect of the country forward.
01:19:33.340
For me, yeah, I wish that there was better reporting.
01:19:35.860
I wish that conservatives, you know, weren't so complicit with Donald Trump lying about
01:19:39.740
literally every single thing that comes out of his mouth.
01:19:42.260
I wish that, yeah, a lot of the media environment needs to be fixed, especially on the conservative
01:19:46.460
Because my feeling as an American is like, we are in this position, right or left.
01:19:59.960
These guys were fucking retards, some of these.
01:20:10.180
See how much I fucking spoil you guys with my timestamps, bro?
01:21:05.380
I don't have a strong opinion about selling it.
01:21:25.720
So I understand you're trying to get your 50 minutes of fame, but it's fucking disrespectful.
01:21:31.240
See, this was completely unnecessary being rude like that.
01:21:41.580
Like, dude, you're at their event to go up and be like, oh, what's your name or whatever?
01:21:45.180
Like, that's just like very, because some people tried that to me when I was there.
01:21:50.880
Like just coming off confrontational like this.
01:21:56.080
It just makes you look like an emotional retard, right?
01:22:00.540
When they, when they come up and be like that, like, dude, this is his event, clearly.
01:22:03.940
So it's like, oh, well, you, you, what's your name again?
01:22:17.320
Well, I thought it was male and female, but apparently after the day, it's male and female
01:22:22.180
I bet you high, I bet you have really high estrogen levels, don't you?
01:22:32.100
You guys think about trans people, one of the people that, Jesus.
01:22:46.940
That's what y'all do, I'll silence people because y'all can't fuck your man.
01:22:53.800
Jimmy Kimmel just got kicked off ABC because...
01:23:10.580
See, like, dude, and this is why we have to be super, we have to be very careful, right?
01:23:23.700
One of the things I get often when I debate people like Destiny or people on the left in general, right?
01:23:31.660
Is you guys often tell me, Myron, you're too nice.
01:23:34.700
Why are you being so polite to this individual?
01:23:38.640
And the reason why I do that is because, keep in mind, when you debate these individuals, right, it's not just your audience of people watching you that know you, right?
01:23:52.800
And when you go in there and you act like an idiot, all you do is confirm stereotypes, right?
01:24:09.360
They're just not intelligent people generally, right?
01:24:14.540
They might not necessarily have the best grasp on the English language.
01:24:17.900
They might not necessarily understand complex arguments or, you know, other things, right?
01:24:28.460
This is why people have the whole, like, oh, you dumb hillbilly, right?
01:24:34.440
They think that you're a Bible-thumping retard, if I'm going to be all the way honest on the left.
01:24:37.960
I'm telling you guys what the left thinks about people like us, okay?
01:24:41.440
So when you're there and you're debating an individual from the other side, the reason why debate viewership is so high is because, for once, you have two people who have two completely different opposing views debating, and guess what?
01:24:58.380
And when their audiences both come in to watch, you are in front of 50% of an audience that doesn't know who you are a lot of times or might have heard bad stereotypes about you or might not necessarily know what your positions are on some of these topics, right?
01:25:12.360
And they're coming in with the mindset of conservatives are retards, conservatives are bigots, conservatives aren't able to understand, you know, complex, logically sound concepts, right?
01:25:26.300
So the last thing you want to do is go on there when you have the ability to talk to these people and talk to their audience, too, because that is also who you are talking to.
01:25:36.240
Last thing you want to do is confirm the fucking stereotypes, okay?
01:25:47.160
Oh, well, you know, how many genders are there?
01:25:49.880
It's like, why not take his position on one of the things you disagree with?
01:25:58.140
And then, like, logically and calmly and politely articulate why you disagree and provide the basis as to why you disagree with facts.
01:26:13.940
But when idiots go like this with a freedom shirt and are just yelling a bunch of retarded things, no one's going to take you seriously and no one's going to respect you.
01:26:23.500
And then you make all of us look bad because you confirm the stereotypes, right?
01:26:27.220
What do we make fun of leftists for or liberals?
01:26:29.300
We make fun of them for being soft, for not being able to handle the truth, for getting triggered, right?
01:26:34.880
And when they show up to the mic and they get triggered off of things that you say, we laugh at it, right?
01:26:47.780
So your job is to come in and prove that you're not stupid.
01:26:50.840
This is why people like Charlie Kirk, I have a lot of respect for conservatives that are willing to go out there and actually talk to these people, you know, face to face.
01:26:58.240
Because let's be honest, most people don't like to debate.
01:27:01.240
Most podcasters, most of these influencers don't like to debate because now you have to be able to stand behind what you say.
01:27:05.860
And not only do you have to stand behind what you say, you have to be willing to stand behind what you say and defend what you say with facts.
01:27:13.780
So this is why when I debate people like Destiny, this is why when I debate people on the left in general or people with a different position than I do, right, with a different audience, I'd be as polite as possible.
01:27:27.720
I try to articulate my points as clearly as possible while still being concise so that these people who might have had a preconceived notion of me can walk away and be like, wow, I didn't know that he was so articulate.
01:27:45.860
Oh, wow, he's able to actually look at things from another perspective.
01:27:51.320
So you don't have to necessarily change everyone's mind, but you need to open up to your position, open them up to your position so they can see, okay, I can see why you think that way.
01:28:00.940
I might not agree, but I can see why you have that position.
01:28:06.900
Because we do have a very bad reputation on this side of people thinking we're retards.
01:28:12.220
And it's because of people like that that this stereotype holds.
01:28:28.520
Just no heckling, because I just want to have like a real conversation here.
01:28:31.500
I'm not here to attack anyone or they say I'm right.
01:28:36.780
If anyone's wrong, I'm trying to just bring about a constructive dialogue.
01:28:40.880
I want to abandon this partisan bullshit that is making people homicidal towards each other.
01:28:44.380
We're not heading in a good direction as we see here.
01:28:51.320
And I saw everyone mocking his death, pissing on his grave.
01:28:54.320
And then I saw everyone on the right getting even more pissed off and radicalized and angry
01:28:58.160
and hurling slurs at each other, say horrible things back and forth.
01:29:02.020
And I've never seen anything like that in my life.
01:29:03.760
And how do we just have formed that peaceful dialogue?
01:29:14.540
I mean, nobody likes cancer, but I mean, like, the right has to be willing to take accountability
01:29:21.360
We all have to condemn all political violence across the spectrum.
01:29:27.600
The both sides thing just doesn't work anymore.
01:29:33.680
Like, the left can row harder and harder, but we sort of go around in circles until the
01:29:36.720
right is willing to actually come out and say, hey, everybody, including us, everybody needs
01:29:42.460
I'm not even saying that to say it for themselves personally.
01:29:45.460
Donald Trump cannot condemn violence in this country without also talking about the radical
01:29:51.980
And I wish he would stop that rhetoric, even though I understand the, you know, there's a lot
01:29:56.820
of left-wing, like, radicals and right-wing radicalism.
01:29:59.800
And the truth is, I think that there's, like, a lot of left and right-wing fringes, right,
01:30:07.580
But the big difference is, right, and I got to say this, left-wing radicals don't get
01:30:13.480
Left-wing radicals don't come to the attention of law enforcement.
01:30:16.200
Left-wing radicals don't really deal with accountability to the same degree that conservatives do.
01:30:25.560
Radicals, let's say on the far-right side, right, of radicals, let's say the KKK would
01:30:30.380
be an example of this, right, or a white supremacist group.
01:30:32.460
That's what they would consider a far-right, you know, extremist group.
01:30:36.180
Then, on the left, shout-out to Sarah Bera for subscribing.
01:30:43.380
And I'm happy that some of you ladies are watching in and getting educated on this stuff.
01:30:49.920
Explain to me how Antifa regularly marches all across major cities, all across the United States.
01:30:54.680
Meanwhile, when's the last time you've seen a Klan rally?
01:30:58.420
When's the last time you've seen niggas in white hoods walking around in a major city
01:31:07.580
When they say, oh, well, conservatives do violence too.
01:31:13.240
I'm not saying that political violence isn't real.
01:31:15.320
But what I am saying is that the way political violence is treated on the left versus the right
01:31:28.940
Also, guys, we got 1,000 likes with 3,000 of you guys in here.
01:31:36.740
And they start believing that, like, everyone on the right of their spectrum is like that.
01:31:39.820
And you start getting these, like, radicalized kids doing this shit.
01:31:44.460
I think it's a real conversation that needs to be had.
01:31:47.000
Yeah, but the problem is we have to have an honest conversation about it.
01:31:49.640
The reality is, like, when there was supposedly a threat from Iran to assassinate Trump,
01:31:57.140
After the assassination attempt against Trump, which was by a registered Republican,
01:32:02.480
He, you know, he belotted even more security to Donald Trump,
01:32:04.940
and he told everybody in the United States they needed to calm down.
01:32:06.880
After this last shooting happened with Charlie Kirk, in, like, 12 hours,
01:32:10.840
the right wing had spun up, including Donald Trump and J.D. Vance and Nancy Mace
01:32:15.060
and Stephen Crowder and Matt Walsh and every other alternative media online
01:32:17.880
had spun up an entire conspiracy theory about who the guy was,
01:32:23.460
The right has an inability to, like, critically analyze itself.
01:32:30.060
I got it fixed where your chat shows up on screen.
01:32:32.260
So, as you guys can see here, shout out to you, Sarah Bira,
01:32:35.460
for, you know, being the first person, I guess, to guinea pig in this thing.
01:32:49.780
everything that comes through, I'll show on screen.
01:32:54.440
Also, Robin Coby and JuneX Clips, thank you for the...
01:33:08.840
I think it's a new feature on Kik that lets you, like, cheer.
01:33:20.800
They always fucking ban some bullshit, don't they?
01:33:22.900
And I'll show you guys what it looks like real quick.
01:33:32.620
And then it'll bring you to a thing where you can donate.
01:33:38.040
They're righteous in all of their anger and in all of their fury.
01:33:40.800
And as long as that's, like, going to be a driving force,
01:33:53.160
So, until somebody's willing to, like, sit down
01:34:01.280
Charlie Kirk is on his program talking about Joe Biden
01:34:05.480
Like, I'm sorry, but you're delusional if you think your side
01:34:07.780
has done anything to try to turn down the violence.
01:34:11.000
And that conversation that you want to have, like,
01:34:14.060
I mean, are we going to be talking, like, after this?
01:34:16.880
Like, I genuinely just want to have a conversation about this
01:34:19.600
Because the truth is, let me just say one thing.
01:34:24.560
all you see is everything from the right, and vice versa.
01:34:28.520
And I think that, like, the mainstream media, bro,
01:34:31.880
I think it's specifically designed to just kind of program us
01:34:34.360
to, like, hate each other and beat each other's throats
01:34:36.080
so we don't focus on, like, the common enemy at the top, you know?
01:34:40.380
And I just really, you know, I don't want any violence,
01:34:45.200
this, like, anger, this wrath I'm seeing, you know?
01:35:02.120
Number three, if you want us to talk about horrific statements
01:35:05.080
Charlie Kirk was literally saying that people should get to a bail
01:35:36.780
Can you tell me just really quick what happened?
01:35:49.520
I was in one of those two lanes going this way.
01:36:18.600
Just turned yellow as I was getting into the intersection.
01:36:22.320
Are either one of you injured in any way, shape, or form?
01:36:26.660
Hey, do you have your registration and proof of insurance on your vehicle?
01:36:29.900
No, they don't get grandfathered in for a dollar, bro.
01:37:05.220
I should have to pick for him if you want me to text it to you.
01:37:09.060
I'm going to need to be forward if I could want me to be doing that.
01:37:14.080
And then, uh, did you get a wrecker coming for this?
01:37:25.620
We're going to need a wrecker for the 6th Juliet Fox, as well.
01:37:46.500
She's got to shuttle over from where she's at to her car, and then drive over.
01:37:50.720
What I need you to do is just fill out this witness statement for me.
01:37:54.680
Down here, put exactly what you told me that happened.
01:38:02.700
I wonder if that, that, that's, that can't be his boyfriend.
01:38:06.900
As you guys know, he's with a transitioning male.
01:38:09.580
Name, name, date of birth, your address, and your phone number.
01:38:20.460
Okay, just give us a couple of minutes, and we'll get, uh, the paperwork.
01:38:24.500
And we're going to have a tow truck come and get your car.
01:38:26.520
Since you're leaking fluids, you're not going to last too long.
01:38:56.520
Did you make any statements to him after the incident happened?
01:39:07.820
And then, as we pulled up here, I had him check on them.
01:39:12.420
Did you make a, did you make a statement, uh, saying that it was your fault?
01:39:18.660
Uh, when I got out, I was, like, worried, so I just went out and said, yeah, it wasn't
01:39:45.980
Because you guys have a couple different, uh, versions about what happened.
01:39:49.240
So we have a third, we had a third party witness that watched the entire thing.
01:39:52.980
I'm just trying to clarify your guys' story a little bit.
01:40:00.340
And from that rightmost through lane through the intersection.
01:40:05.260
And maybe a second or so before I reached the intersection, the light changed yellow.
01:40:11.640
I was looking up at the light just before getting there.
01:40:16.240
And as I get into the intersection, the bolts, there was a vehicle in the lane.
01:40:20.280
Between, like, the leftmost through lane that was forward some.
01:40:24.820
So people, people on the side of you were slowing down to a stop.
01:40:31.540
Uh, just seeing someone slowing down and wondering why they had slowed so much.
01:40:42.720
Because you guys have been asking me to cover this thing for a while.
01:40:49.000
And then, uh, we could do 9-11 probably after this, um, this David story.
01:40:53.680
Apparently this singer or artist or whatever, he got, um, they found a body in his trunk,
01:40:59.800
um, of a minor, which is crazy, who had been missing for a while.
01:41:06.940
Um, before I do that, Jamie X says, um, what is Candace researching going to amount to?
01:41:11.440
She seems quick to make a stance to run with it.
01:41:19.480
I like that you put that fucking thing out there.
01:41:25.640
Let me show you guys what he just showed me, man.
01:41:33.040
Well, this is one of the guys, uh, an OSS, guys.
01:42:02.640
Pop Pop says, uh, fuck this is why women shouldn't speak.
01:42:11.020
Jamie says, uh, she's welcome because you can't keep your mouth shut long enough to show
01:42:14.720
respect for someone else without making a scene no one wants, uh, bullshit on the
01:42:19.700
Abe 88 says, Tim Pool isn't going to the funeral either.
01:42:24.340
He thinks there may be another attack with a concentration of conservatives in one place.
01:42:34.420
I've seen the video, I'm a hunter, my caliber of choice is 30-30, and my uncle, who was an
01:42:38.940
army medic, and we both agree it was a frontal shot.
01:42:42.080
Um, L Brokey Boys from Promo Chapo, Rare Woman W from Kirkio Maine.
01:43:11.000
Um, Kinetic Edge, hey, Myron, Shaquan is crying in OSS, it costs a dollar to send a
01:43:18.660
Well, if his name is Shaquan10, you should know what that means.
01:43:21.900
L Broke Boys from Promo Chapo, how do I get APEC money?
01:43:26.360
Pancake says, I finally joined the OSS Army, thank you for the great awakening.
01:43:29.300
Do you think you will ever reach out to Canazon for any kind of collaboration?
01:43:34.080
Um, yeah, I mean, we'll probably do something at the end of the year.
01:43:42.000
Uh, Freology, that breakdown sounded like the left wing is women, uh, the left act exactly
01:43:50.920
Uh, Cletus Van Damme says, Myron, uh, people on the left also lack the understanding that
01:43:54.800
you don't have to be a party person to support certain ideologies.
01:44:01.380
You just gotta send in some information and won't be evicted.
01:44:07.460
So they just raised the rent for the next sentence.
01:44:13.920
Okay, yeah, it's a, it's a leftist organization that's like sponsoring a, um, um, a college
01:44:20.140
It was supposed to follow Turning Point USA, actually.
01:44:23.480
Ryan said, Are you still debating him tomorrow?
01:44:28.360
Since you guys are here, you real niggas are here with me at one o'clock in the morning.
01:44:32.140
Shout out to Devin C. being a supporter on Rumble.
01:44:34.780
Uh, uh, shout out to you, Devin C.O.4, for subscribing on Rumble.
01:44:53.820
But do you guys think Saturday would be better?
01:44:55.840
Let me do a poll for you guys on YouTube and everything else like that.
01:44:58.700
Yo, um, Jacob or anybody watching on OSS, can you guys run an OSS poll for me real quick?
01:45:13.340
I think Sunday 8 p.m. is better, but let's see here.
01:45:25.840
And the topic, just so you guys know, is going to be which party is a bigger detriment to, um, peace in the Middle East.
01:45:41.740
All right, let me, I'm going to put this poll up with you guys as well on, um, kick.
01:45:59.560
And when I say this, guys, like, which one would be better for tuning in live?
01:46:24.880
Obviously, I'll be able to catch it right later.
01:46:54.880
Uh, he goes, how does IMF and central banks keep governments in check?
01:47:02.360
Why is it difficult for countries to make their own decisions in their own self-interest?
01:47:08.400
Well, bro, if you control the money, you control the country.
01:47:26.540
Sandman 900 with the 50 gifted big fucking sub.
01:47:31.300
Um, and then as far as Wiley Coyote goes, let me go ahead and put your chat here.
01:48:12.600
I wasn't happy that we didn't have after hours today.
01:48:18.560
I wanted to get y'all on after hours today, but, you know, we didn't get to do it.
01:48:47.220
What is a better debate day for you guys to tune in?
01:48:51.240
I looked at it like, you know, it's, um, you know, I looked at it like, okay, it's, it's,
01:48:59.820
People probably don't want to, you know, watch the debate on a Saturday night.
01:49:05.220
So that's why I was kind of like, maybe this isn't the move.
01:49:09.540
But yeah, but yeah, uh, Wiley Coyote, to answer your question, as far as the banks go, dude,
01:49:16.220
If you control the money, you don't need to control anything else.
01:49:20.220
If you control the banks, you control the country, bro.
01:49:42.840
For all you guys that donate on, uh, MyronGainesX.com, I want to make sure y'all get love.
01:50:22.760
Real ones definitely do remember fed it, uh, 1811.
01:50:26.820
And then Sorak Nodidi gifted 10 gifted subs earlier.
01:50:45.840
We got 62% of you guys are saying Saturdays tomorrow.
01:50:52.340
I thought you guys would want a Sunday instead.
01:51:11.140
Fitness by us says they're making the whole right bad.
01:51:17.880
Time me people out on YouTube for roasting my free speech, bro.
01:51:25.460
And honestly, they probably run their YouTube channel
01:51:30.920
so why should we let hate-ass niggas be in there?
01:51:56.280
If the left and liberals say Trump is a fascist,
01:52:04.280
Myron, look into the case I'll tell you yesterday
02:49:51.480
Okay, how long have you been working for the Salvation Army?
02:49:54.080
How long have you been working off duty for the Salvation Army?
02:50:49.940
And it's got the, uh, my wallet with the credentials and everything on the side of it.
02:51:37.500
Is it a loaded firearm that you have with you, Mr. Skeletta?
02:51:42.120
Okay, can you put your hands on the car, please?
02:51:54.200
I'm not familiar with the retention of this holster.
02:52:00.760
Now, a lot of these holsters guys have, like, you know, two and three level.
02:52:05.340
So, and they're designed in a way where it's harder for someone to take it out of your holster
02:52:10.560
So that's why he's kind of, why he said, I'm not familiar with the retention on this holster.
02:52:15.380
You're doing just so I keep your hands on that.
02:52:42.460
I never really keep a loaded gun around unless some other shit.
02:52:45.020
But you can see right here, you click this thing.
02:52:53.360
But if it's not in there, well, the slide is to the back.
02:52:56.680
But if the slide wasn't to the back, right, not loaded.
02:53:03.860
Then you click this thing, bam, and then it slides out.
02:53:08.700
So that's what he means when he says, I don't know what level of retention it is.
02:53:13.320
This is nice to carry on my duty belt when I do like raids and shit.
02:53:15.480
And then it goes, you can slide it on this thing.
02:54:14.620
Mr. Scaletta, you have the right to remain silent.
02:54:18.260
Anything you say can be used against you in the court of law.
02:54:19.880
You have the right to talk to the lawyer and have him present with you.
02:54:23.500
He's reading him his rights, which means they're probably very confident that he doesn't work for a police agency.
02:54:31.520
So they're mirandizing him now so they get it out of the way.
02:54:36.100
Because the criminal issue is probably going to come out here in a second.
02:54:38.080
If I afford to hire a lawyer, one will be appointed to represent you before any question if you wish.
02:54:44.300
You can decide at any time to exercise these rights.
02:54:46.760
Not answer any questions or make any statements to understand.
02:55:01.960
AB Pound, I'm going to do 9-11 after this, bro.
02:55:14.900
Lesnar Scaletti, Sam Charles, Adam Lincoln, Edward Tom, Tom Adam.
02:55:19.380
First of Mezzi, Mary Edward Zebra Zebra Young, middle A, Anthony, 1976, 0810.
02:55:35.740
Yeah, that's what I wrote down from the report.
02:55:48.520
Please grab my credentials and everything out there.
02:56:25.480
He's returning with a DL record out of Lacey...
02:56:28.360
He's cuffed, but that's when the questions only get sharper.
02:56:36.460
Because supervisors arrive, and they start pressing him on exactly who he is and why he
02:56:42.420
And they probably called the agency, called the sergeants over there, hey, does this guy
02:56:46.980
And everyone's like, uh, no, we don't know who that guy is.
02:56:49.460
In a vest at one of the city's busiest crime hotspots.
02:56:54.100
I'm going to have a foot of your badge here, too.
02:57:21.960
So, do you understand why you're detained right now or no?
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So, first off, if you are a commissioned police officer in this state, you'll be taken
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I'm one of the supervisors in the city right now.
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If Salvation Army is hiring uniformed commission law enforcement,
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who's going to be carrying badge, gun, vest, especially not in our agency, as far as I'm
02:57:55.880
First of all, I did not have a weapon on while I was on duty, and I was leaving.
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So, if you're us, and especially if you're a law enforcement, I understand.
02:58:10.380
We see a guy with a detective badge, police badge, I think there's a SWAT badge somewhere.
02:58:15.340
Hey, you can't even do it right, fucking retard.
02:58:21.560
In our jurisdiction, and we haven't been notified that, hey, Salvation Army's got armed
02:58:27.400
So, whenever you're a member of a law enforcement agency, and you're working in another jurisdiction,
02:58:32.840
you need to notify the jurisdiction that you're going into, unless you're federal, of course.
02:58:37.460
But if you're federal, then you need to notify your agency.
02:58:42.320
Let's say you're an FBI agent assigned in San Antonio, Texas, right?
02:58:48.180
There's a special agent in charge office there.
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If you go to Dallas, where there's another FBI office there, you need to notify FBI Dallas
02:58:57.740
as you're going into the area to do something, whether it's surveillance, conduct an arrest,
02:59:02.460
So, you don't need to necessarily notify the Dallas Police Department or anything, but
02:59:07.480
you need to notify your counterpart agency that's in that area, okay?
02:59:10.660
Now, let's say you're a Dallas detective, and you want to go do something down in San Antonio.
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You're going to contact the San Antonio Police Department and contact their detective division
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I need help, or whatever the hell it may be, okay?
02:59:29.720
And the fact that he didn't have a deconfliction thing in there is what probably got them to,
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However, when we came across you, right, you're uniformed enough when we came across you.
02:59:44.740
So, the concern is, the concern is, especially because we weren't given notification, right?
02:59:57.000
Even if you're leaving, Salvation Army, this is the number one crime hotspot in the entire
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Well, I don't, I think we're not, we're getting our wires crossed a little bit.
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Because what I'm trying to get you to understand is, I understand that you're just leaving if
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But if you know that this is the highest crime area, right?
03:00:21.280
If you know this is the highest crime area in the city, and you know that that's likely
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to use your law enforcement experience, and we're going to be in the area, probably not
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the best idea to be wearing a vest, armed, going to and from, because it's going to make
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us think something up to, up to and including possible criminal impersonation of a police
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This might be an error for their bosses and our bosses, because if this is all true,
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right, and we weren't, and we just weren't notified, that's what could have solved this
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is an email saying, hey, just so you know, there's a guy, he's law enforcement.
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And that's a big red flag that another police department is working in their jurisdiction
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That's, that's what, that's what has this guy really tripped up.
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And obviously criminals don't know this because they're not on the job.
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But that was one of the big giveaways right there.
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When he's being hired off duty of Salvation Army, you may see him come and go from the
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And the fact that bro would do this when he's a convicted felon, what a fucking retard.
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Dude, I would not be surprised if he gets federally charged for this.
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You cannot have a gun as a convicted, as a convicted felon.
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Dressing up as a cop as a convicted felon is crazy work, bro.
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And even after being confronted, Scaletta doesn't stop.
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He weaves more details into this alleged fake resume.
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Listen as he tries to convince them that he has been with Edmunds PD for 18 months.
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Only then he seemingly contradicts himself minutes later.
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But by this point, officers already know what's going on.
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They look into the database and it uncovers a very different past.
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A 2015 SWAT standoff, apparently in North Carolina, a felony conviction.
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These are facts that make his stories impossible.
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So when I came, I retired from Baltimore City, Maryland four years ago.
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I worked at the detention center for a little while.
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I was able to secure a spot over at Edmunds after getting some other certifications.
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So you said you've been at Edmunds for 18 months, but then you said you're only contracted to work.
03:03:51.360
Okay, so I did the whole two-year that signed on for the two years.
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See, this is why it was smart for them to get Miranda out early, because now this is all going to be used against him, Chad.
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So they knew more than likely he was going to end up getting arrested.
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So the fact, it was kind of a good strategy for them to read the Miranda up front.
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Now, the thing with reading the Miranda up front is, obviously, you can, you know, jam yourself up,
03:04:24.440
because when you read the Miranda up front, it might get them scared.
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But a guy like this is not going to want to be quiet.
03:04:31.300
He's going to want to talk to justify himself, right?
03:04:33.380
So it was actually a very good strategy by them to read Miranda up front, because in this situation,
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normally reading Miranda right away can impact their ability to get a confession.
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But in this case, it worked out, because this guy's going to obviously yap to justify that he's actually a cop, like a fucking retard.
03:04:49.640
So you said, hey, this man, we'll be able to figure it out.
03:04:59.480
I kind of feel like this was a little bit overboard.
03:05:05.400
You said you were a retired Baltimore place home.
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So you and I have operated on the reasonable exam.
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So in 2015, he was involved in a SWAT incident where he barricaded himself inside and had
03:05:38.120
He was detained and arrested in the District of Columbia.
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He's saying that he retired from Baltimore City Police after doing like 24 years or some
03:05:48.920
shit four years ago, which he's a convicted felon.
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Thurston County was only there for a short time.
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And then he initially said he was working for Edmonds PD for 18 months.
03:06:08.040
And then he said he has 18 months left on a two-year contract with Edmonds.
03:06:19.480
I get the blinky lights and Gary Hershey being Gary Hershey prosecutor.
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If we run him, find out he's a convicted felon, he's got a Glock or whatever.
03:06:29.460
Basically, last night, in case you put in his report, that he had the holster removed from
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Like, the holster was, like, off somewhere else.
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And he had, like, the strap with, like, the QLS, like, ability to holster one.
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Well, I pulled up to ask some questions about him working here.
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And then officers say his name came back tied to a 2015 incident in Baltimore.
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To be clear, it's an incident that we couldn't verify in reporting.
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But Scaletta flatly denies that he's ever been arrested in his life.
03:07:25.520
And what follows is a tense back and forth as officers press him on his record, his gear,
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So tell me, tell me what happened in 2015 with Baltimore PD.
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I think you know exactly what I'm talking about.
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You're going to get a lot of great indications of what a liar looks like.
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Well, I'm talking about the offense where you were arrested in Baltimore City.
03:08:35.520
So when I search you in our police database and your name and date of birth come back with an incident in 2015.
03:08:44.820
With the jurisdiction of Columbia, which is obviously Washington, D.C.
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APHIS is a fingerprint database, guys, where they, you know, all the fingerprints are put
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in there, and it obviously checks against NCIC and all the other databases would see just
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and all those other crap to basically to help find records.
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It's got some Gatorade in it, and it's got my wallet.
03:10:08.840
You're giving us the consent to search the vehicle.
03:10:16.120
Are you giving us consent to search the vehicle?
03:10:17.880
What, y'all are going to tear my vehicle apart?
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We're not going to, we're going to, we're not going to like.
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They're going to get a search warrant anyway now, dumbass.
03:11:10.980
And then, uh, you should be able to un-Velco it on the side and just take out a lock.
03:11:24.100
You said you can take out the Velcro on the side?
03:12:03.100
He was going to give us consent to go on the car and change.
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You can grab the Bible and, uh, secure it back down.
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Can you wait for my wife to get it back to you?
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I promise I'm not going to be damaged or anything.
03:13:13.940
Can I have, uh, so I, I, I don't have period no more.
03:13:21.100
I, I, uh, took the test and it was negative, but I was out and sick, so.
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I, I was able to return back for a double treat.
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Watch a little bit more of this, guys, and we're going to go into one more thing, and then
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I'm setting up the 9-11 stuff for you guys right now.
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Do you have, do you have anything else in your pockets?
03:14:12.880
I, I believe I have my, my date on, in this side.
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Do you mind if I just take everything out of your pockets for now?
03:14:43.880
Do you essentially, uh, just want to make sure I, I might have like the, there, yeah, those are my keys.
03:15:02.320
I'm just going to take all your stuff, put it in his bag right here.
03:15:04.480
Um, so authorities walk him through the red flags that raise suspicion, but he continues
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And I'm not trying to be, you know, disrespectful.
03:15:31.600
Um, but I'm interested with why you're saying that I was arrested in Washington, D.C. and Baltimore.
03:15:41.820
Well, because, because we, we, we ran your data earlier, right?
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Whenever, whenever you came up and you contacted, uh, one of our officers and one of our sergeants
03:16:07.040
So, so when, when, when someone who is out of jurisdiction, like what, what my sergeant was
03:16:14.840
When someone out of jurisdiction comes up, they're saying, Hey, you're an Edmonds detective.
03:16:18.180
You're wearing the badge or SWAT police decals, all this stuff.
03:16:22.860
And then you're most, in my experience, most cops won't really approach an active scene
03:16:30.160
while they're off duty, especially out of jurisdiction.
03:16:34.240
So whenever you do that, we have, you have lights on in the car, you come up and you're
03:16:40.160
And that you're working an off duty gig for Salvation Army.
03:16:47.400
So I think it was taken out of context a little bit, but I, I was coming on.
03:16:57.800
I didn't, uh, no one, no one said you were armed.
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Now, now he's starting to realize like, Oh shit, I'm going to get cooked because I am a felon
03:17:15.780
A lot of flags get thrown whenever that happens, right?
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And then I roll up and I'm like, Hey, I'm off duty as I'm wearing like my police badge.
03:17:35.900
We're the ones that told him that there was a fire over here.
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Like, I, I didn't want, I didn't do anything else.
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So, yeah, I mean, it's nothing I'm going to do out here or of course we'll do anything.
03:17:58.780
Well, it's a, it's all on camera, multiple cameras.
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But you see why that would raise a lot of flags, right?
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And then when you provided your name to him, obviously we checked it.
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And then we run a, what's called a triple, you know what a triple I is?
03:18:40.820
Yeah, this guy did a little bit of study, but not enough.
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We're going to our office, and then the kids have to go yard after we're done.
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At this time, I'm running and broke my rights in.
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See, they're smiling because they know he's already cooked.
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And what remains is the arrest on camera as Scaletta is booked on impersonation and firearms
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Can we have my cell phone, or do you guys, are you guys...
03:20:15.420
Uh, um, I want him to call my wife, and usually I want to give him the passcode.
03:20:29.100
They'll give you the opportunity to make phone calls.
03:20:57.480
So, the background check that we do is only for...
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We got about 2,800 of you guys in here right now.
03:22:18.900
Okay, let me read some of these chats real quick,
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and then we're going to get into some of the main stuff.
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I was preparing everything for you guys for the 9-11 stuff
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Let me make sure I didn't miss any of you guys.
03:23:02.600
Martin, are you flying out to Phoenix this Sunday for Charleston Memorial?
03:23:15.680
It's been a rough week trying to navigate the death of Charlie
03:23:17.900
and not slap in my misinformed young liberal family.
03:23:26.660
Yes, I'm going to do An Empire Unmasked after this.
03:23:30.840
Martin, are you nervous about your destiny debate?
03:23:35.640
The reaction to you finding out is the same way we all feel.
03:23:57.680
Can't wait till you turn off JTube and go full promo.
03:24:05.020
Hey, Martin, this is off topic about Charlie Kirk,
03:24:12.600
Don't be one of these fucking conspiratards, bro.
03:24:37.740
So, Boosters, Mark, we purge these guys spamming locals chat.
03:24:50.640
Yeah, I think 8 p.m. is going to be what it is.
03:24:54.820
T Rice says, why in the hell would anyone want to pretend to be a cop?
03:24:59.880
Apparently there's warnings of a potential al-Qaeda terror attack in the U.S.
03:25:09.180
Where can you watch that 9-11 documentary you'd be showing at home?
03:25:19.240
I think it might be on Rome, but it's low quality.
03:25:22.900
It only shows your thumbnails and loads, whatever.
03:25:25.240
Can you please get it fixed and the app improved?
03:25:27.600
Cam Cook, that might be just you, bro, because everyone else could watch.
03:25:45.740
T Rell X says, nigga, two days from now, you don't read my chat.
03:25:49.660
Wanted your opinion on what they're going to do with bodies they find under Gaza
03:25:56.380
Doubt Israel wants the true body count coming out.
03:26:00.040
They're going to just literally sweep it under the rug.
03:26:03.460
And Trel X, the reason probably why I didn't see your chat is because
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people write paragraphs on this bitch for only a dollar.
03:26:08.840
So, guys, for your fellow people out there, do me a favor, guys.
03:26:11.920
If you're only going to donate a dollar, try to keep the super chat, like, short
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Josie, why should I not let them search if I have nothing to hide?
03:26:27.980
I don't like confrontation if they raise their voice or start crying.
03:26:33.300
All right, can you please upload all the old FedReact streams to locals?
03:26:36.900
Perfect thing to fall asleep to, especially no ads.
03:27:18.800
YouTuber gets life in prison for hiring a hitman?
03:27:24.800
This YouTuber made wearing Supreme in New York City a dangerous thing for years, terrorizing
03:27:33.860
the streets, harassing strangers, and building a viral empire out of pure hatred for a clothing
03:27:38.260
brand, only to end up serving 28 years to life in prison.
03:27:41.500
And this is all because his reckless actions cost the life of an innocent family man.
03:27:45.440
So it's safe to say we have quite the tragic yet wild video today.
03:27:49.820
And it's probably the most extreme case of fashion beef spiraling into real world consequences
03:27:56.000
Especially because this story actually starts back in 2016 to 2017 and only reached its conclusion
03:28:04.800
So meet Anthony Lopez, who became known online as YM Bape, a man whose obsession with fashion
03:28:13.160
Only, this is the most niggas shit I've ever seen in my life.
03:28:28.840
And then once we get 2,300, we're going to start the 9-11 stuff.
03:28:44.280
You YouTube niggas, that's the least you guys could do.
03:28:46.100
I don't get paid to be on this godforsaken app.
03:28:51.740
We first need to know what these clothing brands meant to people around the world,
03:28:55.240
especially in New York City during the late 2010s.
03:28:59.480
And Supreme had basically become the holy grail of streetwear culture.
03:29:02.740
And people were literally sleeping on the sidewalks outside of Supreme stores
03:29:08.600
Meanwhile, you have a bathing ape, mostly referred to as Bape.
03:29:14.740
While Supreme kept things more minimalistic at least and grungy,
03:29:19.380
Bape, they went full rainbow camouflage and cartoon apes.
03:29:36.300
Then obviously you have the casual streetwear people who maybe own both or wanted to own both.
03:29:40.660
But your average person did not own any of this.
03:29:43.220
As we're talking about $500 plus hoodies back in 2016.
03:29:47.700
Ironically, now both of these brands are cheaper.
03:29:51.900
You could probably get a Supreme hoodie for what?
03:29:55.880
And the dollar is worth definitely way less than what it was back in 2016.
03:30:01.420
So it has a lot to do with the hype on both of them pretty much dwindling.
03:30:04.980
But back then, Anthony Lopez decided that his preference was Bape.
03:30:13.580
Imagine going to jail for a brand of clothing that doesn't even know exists and you don't get paid for it.
03:30:27.200
Bape started showing up to social media with one simple mission.
03:30:29.960
Convinced the world that Supreme was garbage and anyone wearing it deserved to be publicly shamed.
03:30:34.860
Now, Anthony wasn't some fashion insider or an industry expert.
03:30:38.580
He was also just a regular dude from New York who happened to have an extremely strong opinion on what other people wore.
03:30:45.240
And I guess what made him different was his willingness to take these opinions directly to the streets and all up in people's face.
03:30:52.080
Because instead of just posting angry comments online like most haters,
03:30:56.380
YM Bape, he grabbed his phone and started physically confronting strangers in Manhattan.
03:31:00.920
He'd walk up to random people wearing Supreme gear and start shouting at them about their fashion choices.
03:31:05.280
And according to interviews, he gave later, YM Bape actually started doing this stuff without even recording it.
03:31:16.720
He was just walking around Soho genuinely harassing people because he felt like he was just very passionate that he hated Supreme.
03:31:44.020
Eventually, his friends then convinced him to start filming these encounters.
03:31:49.120
So you were just running up on people who were wearing Supreme and just flexing on them?
03:31:54.760
Yeah, because I was so adjusted to f*** the parade.
03:31:57.600
Because these videos started going viral on Reddit, Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook pages everywhere.
03:32:02.720
And people couldn't figure out why he was doing this.
03:32:06.180
There was a lot of speculation if these were just skits or if this guy has actually just lost his mind over some hoodies.
03:32:11.440
And these weren't just verbal arguments either.
03:32:13.060
Because YM Bape, he would physically grab Supreme hats off of people's heads and just throw them on the ground.
03:32:17.540
He'd push strangers, he'd trip them while they were walking.
03:32:21.140
And then he'd also do this whole like beating on his chest thing while shouting catchphrases.
03:32:53.880
It was definitely extremely cringy to watch, but that...
03:33:03.800
Could you imagine if it was the other way around?
03:33:08.340
Or walking up to like black dudes saying, yo, take that s*** off?
03:33:11.280
Because they're wearing like, you know, fooboo and s***?
03:33:17.400
Bro, that n*** would be in jail for hate crimes so f***ing fast, man.
03:33:34.420
N***a, before he could even upload that s*** to TikTok, FBI's gonna be at his house, man.
03:33:42.820
And he's gonna go to jail and it's gonna be a bad time.
03:33:45.060
Cringiness is exactly what made the content go extremely viral.
03:33:53.400
Because, especially back then, this behavior wasn't all over the place.
03:34:06.120
It was somewhat unique, even though how tragic it is.
03:34:08.880
Because within months, Wyandbape transferred from some, like, random straight harasser
03:34:14.000
He was getting thousands of followers, who was genuinely entertained by the chaos,
03:34:18.500
or genuinely supported his anti-Supreme crusade.
03:34:21.820
And this was also during a time where Supreme got so popular, but it was so expensive,
03:34:26.460
that a lot of people just started hating on it because, yeah, like, the $1,200 hoodie
03:34:31.340
would just Supreme on it did not make sense for most people.
03:34:33.980
So a lot of people started clowning on the people who were actually buying that kind of stuff.
03:34:37.280
But here's the thing, even if you knew who he was...
03:34:39.460
Yeah, if you buy high-end fashion, you're an idiot.
03:34:42.040
Or followed his content, you still weren't safe from being pressed if you wore the wrong
03:34:47.460
Because this situation got so intense, that people started genuinely avoiding certain
03:34:50.940
neighborhoods in Manhattan if they were wearing Supreme.
03:34:53.500
And Wyandbape wasn't just targeting random pedestrians anymore.
03:34:56.580
Because one of his most infamous moments was when he approached the actor Jonah Hill on the
03:34:59.960
street, which led to this footage, showing that Jonah was probably extremely confused and
03:35:09.740
If you guys actually believe that's his real name...
03:35:41.960
Social media back then was definitely very different because this was also during the time
03:35:59.620
Yes, but it's safe to say it was pretty cursed back then.
03:36:01.480
But as his internet fame grew, something unexpected happened.
03:36:04.960
Major figures in hip-hop began acknowledging his existence.
03:36:07.680
He was spotted hanging around rappers like Chief Keef, Playboy Cardi, and even brought on
03:36:13.760
But the whole thing reached peak validation when XXXTentacion referenced him in a song,
03:36:17.720
basically turning the YM chest-beating signature move into a mainstream hip-hop lyric.
03:36:22.080
And this led him to being interviewed on No Jumper, where he'd gone to explain his supreme
03:36:28.600
And at this point, terrorizing people for their clothing choices literally became his career.
03:36:35.200
And YM Bape started investing into expensive jewelry and questionable street activity.
03:36:40.900
And this is also around the time where he really starts leaning into his anti-supreme brand.
03:36:56.740
Because in 2018, he pulled off the stunt where he replaced actual supreme advertisements around
03:37:02.980
But he was definitely not finished with the street confrontations,
03:37:12.840
He started storming into actual supreme retail stores,
03:37:15.780
throwing around the merchandise, and actually screaming at employees and customers.
03:37:19.320
There were also videos of him getting into serious street fights over the brand.
03:37:23.040
He was also arrested multiple times for these incidents,
03:37:27.600
He just kept pushing things further and further,
03:37:29.680
like literally beating someone up for wearing supreme.
03:37:38.320
But it was because of this behavior that he then later on claimed
03:37:41.520
that someone put a bounty on him because of all the alleged harassment he's been doing.
03:37:47.480
And he got jumped by a group of people who were apparently-
03:37:49.640
Imagine getting a bounty on you for you starting problems for a clothing brand
03:38:03.760
But in April of 2019, everything changed when YMbape got shot three times in the chest.
03:38:08.340
And the shooting happened near some housing projects on New York's Lower East Side,
03:38:11.780
where YMbape and his crew were allegedly based.
03:38:14.460
When photos of him in the hospital started circulating online, people had mixed reactions.
03:38:18.200
Some felt bad for him, and many thought he'd finally push the wrong person too far.
03:38:22.500
YMbape then posted some hospital photos with some dramatic captions and even filmed a music video
03:38:27.260
from his hospital bed, basically turning his shooting into more content for his brand.
03:38:32.100
But according to prosecutors, YMbape was convinced that someone from a rival neighborhood
03:38:37.780
And that's where his story took a big turn, from internet drama to an actual criminal conspiracy.
03:38:43.640
So from what I can tell, what happened next had nothing to do with Supreme or Bape or even internet fame.
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It was street-level retaliation that would end an innocent person's life.
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Because after getting out of the hospital, Anthony looked for someone to handle his revenge.
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In June of 2019, a young guy reached out to him through some text messages,
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offering to carry out a hit for a surprisingly small amount of money.
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Anthony then accepted this offer, and they started planning the attack.
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So on June 12, 2019, YMbape coordinated with several people to finalize their plan.
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He arranged transportation and logistics for what was supposed to be a targeted hit
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on whoever he thought was responsible for shooting him.
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So that night, the crew he hired took a taxi to the rival neighborhood.
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Like the video on YouTube, ninjas, or I'm gonna cut the stream.
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where James Weeks was hanging out with his friends
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James was a 35-year-old who had worked for Citibank
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and had absolutely nothing to do with any gang activity
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And meanwhile, the person YM BAPE was actually after
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is James Weeks left behind a wife and four children.
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he had no connection to any gang activity at all.
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In one recorded jail call from January of 2020,
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that he had rugged Adila with O slash thank you.
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Trying to get them to complete his original plan.
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And the legal proceedings revealed the full scope
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And the judge also noted that shortly after the killing,
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Wine, Bape, and his friends were caught on video
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The actual shooter is looking at life in prison
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and the other conspirators got decades behind bars.
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by turning fashion preferences into street harassment,
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was someone involved in some actual street activity
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was already masking some serious criminal activity.
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Because while his online persona was really bad,
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apparently he was even worse behind the scenes.
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An innocent family man became collateral damage
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and a revenge plot that stemmed from Wine, Bape's shooting.
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Um, which we're gonna, which we're gonna cover.
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We're just gonna go to Rumble and Kick only, bro.
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Honestly, it'd be better anyway to do it over there
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Because my name's has been a song for you guys to do soon.