The Glenn Beck Program - 12⧸11⧸17 - Empathy, Compassion, and Humility (Anne Applebaum, Jason Wright & Buck Sexton join Glenn)

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00:00:13.780 There is one great thing about the Alabama special election that most people are not talking about.

00:00:20.100 But first, over the weekend, media frantic about Roy Moore's absence on the campaign trail.

00:00:25.560 Instead of making one last push to win over voters, Moore was found at the Army-Navy football game watching his son play.

00:00:34.080 Oh my gosh.

00:00:35.940 Chills, Roy! Are you going to prioritize family over the circus?

00:00:41.800 The media is demanding to know.

00:00:45.000 One of Moore's accusers, Beverly Nelson, lawyered up with Gloria Allred and presented a key piece of evidence against Moore, a signed yearbook.

00:00:53.780 Late last week, she admitted that she wrote half of the inscription in the yearbook.

00:01:00.260 Oopsie!

00:01:01.760 Now, does this confirm that she lied about the whole thing?

00:01:05.240 No, not exactly.

00:01:06.800 But now how do you take her seriously?

00:01:09.600 I mean, if you want credibility, you have to be outwardly honest.

00:01:13.380 You don't wait until you get caught.

00:01:15.880 Also, if you want credibility, never go to Gloria Allred.

00:01:20.300 I mean, Allred now, they're talking about suspending her from the bar.

00:01:28.200 Good.

00:01:29.440 Good.

00:01:30.740 The people of Alabama are going to reveal how they really feel about Roy Moore tomorrow,

00:01:35.360 and it is not up to Republicans or Democrats or independents anyplace else other than in Alabama.

00:01:41.800 But I started with saying there's one great thing about the Alabama special election that most people aren't talking about,

00:01:50.100 and it is incredibly important.

00:01:52.360 Here it is.

00:01:54.400 This is all over tomorrow.

00:01:57.100 It's Monday, December 11th.

00:02:09.880 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:02:14.620 Well, we have some breaking news out of New York.

00:02:17.300 Buck Sexton is in New York.

00:02:18.880 We're going to get to him in just about 25 minutes or so.

00:02:22.800 He's down on the ground in New York, does his radio program nationally, and also on the Blaze Radio Network,

00:02:31.340 and we're thrilled to have him.

00:02:33.160 He is a security consultant and a great, brilliant mind.

00:02:38.660 This does not come as a shock, however, for anybody who has been following ISIS.

00:02:43.860 In case you don't know what happened today,

00:02:48.120 there was an explosion in Manhattan.

00:02:51.300 At least one person was injured,

00:02:54.320 and the trains now are bypassing Times Square and the Port Authority.

00:02:58.600 Now, this could have been just a nightmare of biblical proportions.

00:03:06.800 This is in 42nd and, I think, 8th, the subways.

00:03:15.320 And the guy came down.

00:03:16.920 He was on the subway platform,

00:03:19.240 and people say that he had wires and a pipe bomb strapped to his chest and a battery pack.

00:03:28.360 And he stood there on the platform.

00:03:30.720 As people started to see that he had wires and a bomb,

00:03:33.860 they started to move away from him.

00:03:35.560 But this is, you know, 8 o'clock in the morning in New York, in Times Square.

00:03:38.940 It is packed.

00:03:41.740 He blew himself up, unfortunately, or fortunately for us.

00:03:47.760 It didn't really go on.

00:03:49.800 It was a dud.

00:03:52.260 He was injured by it.

00:03:54.460 But really, that's pretty much the extent of the damage.

00:03:59.680 He's in custody now.

00:04:01.240 They say he's from Brooklyn.

00:04:02.700 We don't have any other information about him yet,

00:04:05.960 but this has just happened at the Port Authority bus station

00:04:11.520 and the subway station at the Port Authority,

00:04:15.760 which is right at Times Square.

00:04:17.920 Now, here's why I say this was expected, if you will.

00:04:24.260 About a week ago, and we'll have to find the meme, and I'll push it out.

00:04:32.320 I'll send it to you, Stu.

00:04:33.840 But there was a meme that was sent out from ISIS, I think, last week or the week before.

00:04:39.800 And it was a picture of Times Square.

00:04:43.020 It had Santa Claus waving with his back to Times Square, standing next to a box of dynamite.

00:04:50.720 And it says, we will meet in New York City very soon.

00:04:55.660 And so it was a threat from ISIS that they were going to target Times Square with bombs.

00:05:04.120 This is not the first time they have tried to target.

00:05:07.660 This is, in some ways, good.

00:05:10.960 They're not able to do it at this point.

00:05:14.080 But at some point, they're going to get somebody who knows how to make bombs.

00:05:17.200 Remember the Times Square bomber who loaded up his van with explosives?

00:05:22.080 That also petered out because he didn't know what he was doing.

00:05:26.200 These seem to be people who are just making them on their own and trying to support ISIS in their own way and failing.

00:05:38.140 So that is the good news.

00:05:40.220 We'll have more on that coming up in just a second.

00:05:44.180 Now, I would imagine you are going to hear, people, because we always make everything about politics.

00:05:52.140 I would imagine that you're going to hear that this was all about Donald Trump.

00:05:58.280 And this is what you get when you say that Israel has a capital and it's Jerusalem.

00:06:03.800 Don't buy any of that.

00:06:05.500 Don't spend any time on that.

00:06:07.500 That is not true.

00:06:08.760 This is something that has been coming and predicted by ISIS before Donald Trump said anything.

00:06:18.000 But they are going to try to spin it that way.

00:06:21.420 And let me start with a journalist asked where Jerusalem is.

00:06:25.020 Let me show you.

00:06:26.700 This is fairly disappointing unless the official paperwork hasn't gone through.

00:06:32.820 But this is a spokesperson at the State Department answering questions about Jerusalem.

00:06:38.900 If this announcement was all talk, this is a problem.

00:06:44.380 And I said this last week.

00:06:46.040 I want to give President Trump the credit he deserves for saying this.

00:06:51.040 But he has to follow it up with action.

00:06:54.100 Otherwise, it's going to be the Bare Ears National Monument.

00:06:57.060 And it won't mean anything because nothing will have really changed.

00:07:01.680 We must move the embassy before he leaves office.

00:07:06.720 It has to happen before 2020.

00:07:09.700 If not, he may have another four years.

00:07:14.780 But if he is gone, the next president is just going to reverse it if it's a Democrat or a weaselly Republican.

00:07:24.240 So if you really want to know, are we doing anything, separate yourself from the speech.

00:07:34.900 Get away from the rhetoric and watch what the other hand is doing.

00:07:40.040 Here is the State Department spokesperson asking a question, trying to say, okay, so really, what has changed here?

00:07:49.020 Listen to this exchange.

00:07:50.280 What country is Jerusalem in?

00:07:52.400 The president recognized Jerusalem as the capital of the state of Israel.

00:07:57.100 Does that mean, then, that the U.S. government officially recognizes that Jerusalem, the municipality, lies within the state of Israel?

00:08:04.880 There has been no change in our policy with respect to counter-

00:08:09.160 Stop it.

00:08:10.300 Do you hear this?

00:08:11.840 This is an easy question.

00:08:14.400 And that was our point last week.

00:08:16.800 This is easy.

00:08:18.020 Where is the capital of Israel?

00:08:19.680 I don't know.

00:08:20.100 Where does the prime minister live?

00:08:21.700 Where is the Knesset?

00:08:22.740 It's in Jerusalem.

00:08:23.940 Okay.

00:08:24.440 Capital of Israel, Jerusalem.

00:08:26.020 It's easy.

00:08:27.640 Let's look at a map.

00:08:29.540 If the capital of Israel is in Jerusalem, why would they have a capital in another country?

00:08:38.400 So, the question is, is to the United States government, so are you saying that Jerusalem is in Israel?

00:08:48.900 Well, of course it is.

00:08:50.180 If they have the capital in Israel, of course, I mean, the capital in Jerusalem, of course, Jerusalem is in Israel.

00:08:56.720 You wouldn't have, the capital of the United States is in Montreal.

00:09:00.660 That doesn't make any sense.

00:09:02.680 Of course, it's in Israel.

00:09:05.440 But did you notice how he answered that?

00:09:07.780 Well, no, we haven't made any change on that.

00:09:10.840 So, you still will not identify Jerusalem as Israel.

00:09:19.440 He goes on.

00:09:20.440 ...practice or passport issuance at this time, which is...

00:09:23.720 Is Jerusalem in Israel?

00:09:27.540 We recognize Jerusalem as a capital...

00:09:30.340 That is not my question.

00:09:31.180 We recognize Jerusalem as a capital of Israel.

00:09:33.380 I'm not going to go on and on.

00:09:34.680 What about official documents?

00:09:36.440 Will they say Jerusalem, Israel?

00:09:39.200 What about the mailing address of the consulate, the street address of the consulate?

00:09:43.140 I've already commented that on consular practice, there is no change at this time.

00:09:47.800 With respect to maps, we are, of course, examining that issue.

00:09:51.340 And when we have a decision, we will announce it with respect to how we will treat Jerusalem for official USG-produced mapping purposes.

00:10:01.180 So, you're getting all of the hassle without any of the reality.

00:10:06.680 We're causing a firestorm without actually doing anything.

00:10:12.060 This cannot stand.

00:10:14.520 Yeah, can we change the letterhead?

00:10:16.580 So, if your consulate is in Jerusalem, it doesn't just say Jerusalem.

00:10:20.800 It says Jerusalem, Israel.

00:10:24.240 It's the only city in the world that doesn't belong to a country.

00:10:28.520 Have you ever heard of that?

00:10:29.860 You could just write to Jerusalem.

00:10:32.000 And if you mean Jerusalem, Israel, then just leave it blank.

00:10:38.260 Just put Jerusalem.

00:10:39.100 If, you know, you mean Jerusalem, is there a Jerusalem, Pennsylvania?

00:10:45.360 If you mean, then make sure you put Jerusalem, Pennsylvania, USA.

00:10:49.000 But Jerusalem, Israel, just Jerusalem.

00:10:52.200 That's crazy.

00:10:53.900 And it's the truth, right?

00:10:55.720 I love this because you see this in the media when we've been beat up by things like, this is an apple and it's not a banana.

00:11:01.800 Exactly right.

00:11:02.380 This is a freaking apple.

00:11:04.640 Like, we all know Jerusalem is in Israel.

00:11:08.000 I love this.

00:11:08.660 We're going to check the maps on that.

00:11:10.380 What do you mean you're going to check the maps?

00:11:13.480 Check the maps.

00:11:14.780 I mean, I hope what you said at the beginning is the reality, which is these are State Department employees that are very process oriented.

00:11:24.000 And very unwilling to move Jerusalem to Israel.

00:11:29.520 Well, that might be true.

00:11:30.620 But what you said earlier is what I hope, which is they haven't officially made this transition yet.

00:11:36.060 I hope.

00:11:36.720 And they don't want to jump the gun.

00:11:38.200 They don't want to commit to something that winds up not being the end game.

00:11:42.080 They don't make all of those decisions themselves.

00:11:44.780 So they're being careful.

00:11:45.980 And if it's just that, it's not that big of a deal, although it's still embarrassing.

00:11:50.100 We need to hold the White House feet to the fire.

00:11:55.280 And I mean, you've got to believe.

00:11:58.120 I mean, at least it is being said in the White House.

00:12:01.380 Listen to Nikki Haley.

00:12:03.040 She's speaking to the U.N. on Jerusalem.

00:12:05.760 Listen to this.

00:12:07.700 Over many years, the United Nations has outrageously been of the world's foremost centers of hostility.

00:12:14.780 The U.N. has done much more damage to the prospects for Middle East peace than to advance them.

00:12:22.940 We will not be a party to that.

00:12:25.260 The United States no longer stands by when Israel is unfairly attacked in the United Nations.

00:12:31.620 And the United States will not be lectured to by countries that lack any credibility when it comes to treating both Israelis and Palestinians fairly.

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00:14:43.300 Glenn Beck.

00:14:49.720 Glenn Beck.

00:14:51.400 Do you hear about the middle schooler, the Keaton Jones, that was bullied?

00:15:02.060 We have to get into this a little later.

00:15:04.200 Here's this kid in Tennessee.

00:15:09.320 It happens on Friday.

00:15:10.800 He gets into the car and he tells his mom, you know, I just can't go back to school.

00:15:17.600 I don't want to go to lunch.

00:15:18.560 I'm afraid.

00:15:21.260 He's constantly bullied.

00:15:23.500 And he is bullied at lunch.

00:15:26.280 And he gets into the car.

00:15:28.400 And his mom videotapes him.

00:15:33.740 Listen to what he said.

00:15:34.980 Just out of curiosity, why do they bullied?

00:15:39.740 What's the point of it?

00:15:40.940 Why do you find joy in taking innocent people and finding a way to be mean to them?

00:15:48.520 It's not okay.

00:15:49.920 What do they say to you?

00:15:51.460 They call me.

00:15:52.320 They make fun of my nose.

00:15:53.880 They call me ugly.

00:15:55.100 They say I have no friends.

00:15:57.860 What do they do to you at lunch?

00:15:59.700 Pour milk on me and put a hand down my clothes.

00:16:02.700 It's not okay.

00:16:03.540 People that are different don't need to be criticized about it.

00:16:21.680 I remember...

00:16:24.540 my children...

00:16:30.540 coming home after days like this.

00:16:42.180 The mom in this video doesn't say very much.

00:16:48.520 But you can hear it in her voice.

00:16:50.180 You know, when you...

00:16:55.820 you let your...

00:16:59.820 kids get on the bus...

00:17:03.820 and they go to school, they change.

00:17:11.360 All of my kids have...

00:17:12.820 have changed.

00:17:14.380 and they...

00:17:22.020 see the harsh reality of the world.

00:17:28.200 And I don't like it.

00:17:34.080 Because it doesn't make sense.

00:17:35.840 life...

00:17:41.480 life...

00:17:42.480 people say it's...

00:17:45.480 so complicated.

00:17:46.520 Life is complicated.

00:17:48.200 It's really not.

00:17:51.520 Life is really pretty easy.

00:17:54.880 It's the people...

00:17:56.480 that are complex.

00:17:59.480 Because how do you answer that question?

00:18:01.280 Why do they do this?

00:18:06.480 What...

00:18:06.960 what...

00:18:07.220 what do they get out of it?

00:18:10.100 Why do they think it's okay?

00:18:11.620 Why?

00:18:11.840 Because they don't have empathy.

00:18:32.600 If there is one...

00:18:34.900 thing...

00:18:36.100 that would change our world...

00:18:38.400 it would be that.

00:18:41.320 Empathy.

00:18:41.840 If we truly could...

00:18:47.520 feel...

00:18:48.520 what others felt...

00:18:50.520 I think we'd be paralyzed.

00:18:56.800 We all worry about ourselves.

00:19:00.100 But I think if...

00:19:01.160 we could truly feel...

00:19:03.520 the fear...

00:19:04.520 in others.

00:19:06.240 The pain...

00:19:08.180 in others.

00:19:08.740 I don't think we'd be able to move.

00:19:17.420 And we certainly would be humbled.

00:19:19.020 you know...

00:19:30.700 you know...

00:19:31.700 every year you get older and...

00:19:35.700 your...

00:19:36.700 Christmas gifts...

00:19:38.700 you know...

00:19:39.380 mean less and less...

00:19:41.380 and you start to understand...

00:19:43.380 your parents and your grandparents...

00:19:45.380 that just used to say...

00:19:46.380 I don't need anything.

00:19:47.620 I don't...

00:19:48.380 I don't need anything.

00:19:49.060 I don't want anything.

00:19:49.760 because really...

00:19:53.440 at my age now...

00:19:55.440 the greatest Christmas gift would be...

00:19:58.440 empathy...

00:20:00.440 compassion...

00:20:02.440 humility...

00:20:06.440 humility...

00:20:07.440 we go to New York and Buck Sexton...

00:20:11.960 next.

00:20:12.240 Glenn Beck.

00:20:29.080 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:20:31.980 Welcome to the program.

00:20:33.440 Glad you're here.

00:20:34.900 The video from Keaton Jones...

00:20:36.520 you can find it at TheBlaze.com.

00:20:37.860 It's the top story today.

00:20:39.380 The Blaze.

00:20:40.100 It's this cute kid that is...

00:20:43.420 you know...

00:20:43.840 got in the car with his mom...

00:20:45.040 and he asked his mom...

00:20:47.280 to make this video.

00:20:49.280 And it was after he...

00:20:51.280 had been bullied...

00:20:52.520 and he wanted to ask everybody...

00:20:53.860 why?

00:20:54.140 Why do you think this is okay?

00:20:57.320 One of my specialties...

00:20:59.160 as a broadcaster...

00:21:00.520 is to...

00:21:01.460 attempt to ruin...

00:21:03.100 positive moments in America...

00:21:05.020 and take them to a...

00:21:06.600 negative place.

00:21:07.840 I like to take people to a...

00:21:09.240 darker place.

00:21:10.100 You just take them to a...

00:21:11.420 negative place.

00:21:12.540 These...

00:21:12.940 you know...

00:21:13.360 I...

00:21:14.260 my initial reaction to this...

00:21:15.700 and...

00:21:16.380 because we all know...

00:21:17.540 the basic thing here...

00:21:18.560 the basic truth is...

00:21:19.660 you should never bully somebody...

00:21:20.940 and it's obviously really terrible...

00:21:22.560 and...

00:21:23.280 this...

00:21:23.880 nobody deserves this...

00:21:25.560 we all understand that...

00:21:26.960 so this is why...

00:21:27.740 I kind of skipped past it a little bit...

00:21:28.900 because it's something...

00:21:29.620 you're just telling me something...

00:21:30.560 that everybody on earth understands...

00:21:32.160 I think it knows...

00:21:33.280 we all know that...

00:21:34.340 every one of them...

00:21:35.100 and I'm sure...

00:21:35.520 obviously you were...

00:21:36.420 surely a victim...

00:21:38.100 of bullying...

00:21:38.780 when you were in school...

00:21:39.700 I was actually...

00:21:40.640 I mean...

00:21:41.660 obviously...

00:21:42.800 what is it?

00:21:43.600 No...

00:21:43.760 I just think that you would...

00:21:45.060 just...

00:21:45.480 you know what's sad is...

00:21:46.200 it's never stopped...

00:21:47.420 it's just never stopped...

00:21:50.420 sorry about that...

00:21:51.260 but I mean...

00:21:52.460 you know...

00:21:53.160 everybody saw that in school...

00:21:54.520 a lot of...

00:21:54.860 most people were...

00:21:55.700 either involved in it...

00:21:56.700 in one way or the other...

00:21:57.800 on either side...

00:21:58.700 I mean...

00:21:59.060 it's obviously a terrible thing...

00:22:00.620 it's not new...

00:22:01.360 it's been going on forever...

00:22:02.800 and there are really bad cases...

00:22:04.660 where terrible things have happened...

00:22:06.200 it's a...

00:22:06.740 it is something we have to focus on...

00:22:08.480 and it's...

00:22:09.060 all of these things are saying...

00:22:10.640 I'm saying...

00:22:11.240 every single person on earth...

00:22:12.540 already knows...

00:22:13.500 so this is why I skipped past it...

00:22:15.160 as a parent...

00:22:16.260 as a person who is a parent...

00:22:18.260 and has kids that have just entered school...

00:22:19.820 and these things are hitting me...

00:22:22.280 for the first time...

00:22:22.920 I look at things through that lens often...

00:22:24.920 I can't imagine...

00:22:26.620 can't imagine...

00:22:27.900 a kid in his darkest moment...

00:22:29.780 crying his eyes out...

00:22:31.280 and posting that on YouTube...

00:22:33.220 I can't...

00:22:33.500 I can't even imagine...

00:22:34.540 putting a camera at my kid...

00:22:36.040 and saying...

00:22:36.440 hey...

00:22:36.940 something really terrible happened to you...

00:22:38.760 tell...

00:22:39.280 tell...

00:22:39.840 tell the world...

00:22:41.040 about how awful it was...

00:22:42.320 and the emotional state you're currently in...

00:22:44.200 and then...

00:22:45.180 posting it on...

00:22:46.040 on the internet...

00:22:46.780 and yes...

00:22:47.300 this one...

00:22:48.160 this one...

00:22:49.360 winds up being that...

00:22:50.460 probably George Clooney...

00:22:51.500 will have him over for...

00:22:52.560 tea and crumpets...

00:22:53.400 at some point in the next few weeks...

00:22:55.180 and it'll work out wonderfully...

00:22:57.680 however...

00:22:58.680 there's going to be a thousand other kids...

00:23:00.600 whose parents think the same thing...

00:23:02.140 that they're going to get some celebrity reaction out of this...

00:23:03.880 well I don't think that's what the parent was thinking...

00:23:05.880 and the child...

00:23:06.680 the child...

00:23:07.860 said...

00:23:08.460 mom...

00:23:09.640 please...

00:23:10.960 post this...

00:23:12.940 children in...

00:23:14.200 I know I agree...

00:23:15.180 in really tough emotional states...

00:23:16.320 don't always make the same choice...

00:23:17.720 and let's just say this one again...

00:23:19.340 I'm not judging these...

00:23:20.760 this particular family at all...

00:23:22.660 we're just learning about this...

00:23:23.860 but just thinking of this...

00:23:24.700 how I would handle this...

00:23:25.780 as a parent...

00:23:26.820 yeah...

00:23:27.180 I would be...

00:23:28.380 you're the most private...

00:23:29.660 you are the exact opposite of me...

00:23:33.280 you couldn't...

00:23:33.840 I couldn't be more open...

00:23:35.880 yes...

00:23:36.180 I mean...

00:23:36.500 it's true...

00:23:36.720 you know...

00:23:37.020 there's just...

00:23:37.480 there's no secrets...

00:23:38.560 we'd like...

00:23:39.060 we'd like things to close up a little...

00:23:40.380 I know...

00:23:40.740 I know...

00:23:41.260 there's no secrets...

00:23:42.140 so you and I are the exact opposite...

00:23:43.740 you know...

00:23:45.260 things will happen...

00:23:46.580 you know...

00:23:47.080 Lisa will leave you...

00:23:48.840 she had...

00:23:49.940 leprosy...

00:23:51.260 and...

00:23:51.980 your house burned down...

00:23:53.720 and we'll find out about three years later...

00:23:56.000 we'll be like...

00:23:56.500 wait...

00:23:57.180 why have we seen Lisa...

00:23:59.060 oh...

00:23:59.420 oh well...

00:24:00.020 she left me...

00:24:00.680 and then she got leprosy...

00:24:01.980 and...

00:24:02.200 2014 was a dramatic year...

00:24:03.580 I will say...

00:24:04.060 I mean...

00:24:04.460 you are...

00:24:05.020 so...

00:24:05.520 you are the most private person...

00:24:07.960 I think I've ever met...

00:24:09.160 that's definitely not true...

00:24:10.560 oh yeah...

00:24:11.000 but I will say...

00:24:12.500 yes it is...

00:24:12.920 it is not...

00:24:13.700 it is...

00:24:14.040 not at all...

00:24:14.620 it is...

00:24:15.340 I'm...

00:24:15.820 what are you talking about...

00:24:16.760 it is...

00:24:17.380 we talk about our lives all the time...

00:24:18.700 no you do not...

00:24:19.080 you just don't...

00:24:19.600 you're not interested in things I talk about...

00:24:21.220 no...

00:24:21.640 that is not true...

00:24:23.140 it is true...

00:24:23.880 it is not true...

00:24:25.280 it is true...

00:24:25.940 but the point here...

00:24:27.460 is that...

00:24:28.540 it's not about...

00:24:29.720 you...

00:24:30.420 and whether you want to be private or not...

00:24:32.280 putting...

00:24:33.000 you know...

00:24:33.320 your...

00:24:33.760 your kid in a...

00:24:34.980 like...

00:24:35.220 think about the typical person this happens to...

00:24:37.100 George Clooney doesn't call everybody...

00:24:38.720 right...

00:24:38.920 like...

00:24:39.240 Donald Trump Jr.

00:24:40.100 is offering to take this kid on a tour of the UFC facilities...

00:24:45.340 right...

00:24:45.700 like this...

00:24:46.480 yeah...

00:24:46.880 right...

00:24:47.240 all these things are happening to this kid...

00:24:48.900 and this kid is going to have an amazing next couple weeks...

00:24:51.840 when the celebrity culture decides bullying is bad...

00:24:55.140 and...

00:24:55.420 and takes a big...

00:24:56.420 you know...

00:24:56.740 step in that direction...

00:24:57.700 and helps him...

00:24:58.500 the next hundred kids that post their video of their emotional tragedies...

00:25:02.940 so that every other kid in their school will watch it on repeat for the next six months...

00:25:07.920 it may not be such a happy story...

00:25:09.600 it may actually make things much, much, much, much worse for those kids...

00:25:14.100 so that...

00:25:14.760 you know...

00:25:15.020 maybe I'm more of a worst-case scenario person on this particular type of thing...

00:25:18.380 you're just a very private person who would not...

00:25:21.420 I mean...

00:25:22.000 Stu...

00:25:22.560 let me ask the audience this...

00:25:23.700 let me ask the audience this...

00:25:25.160 you're friends with somebody for 10 years...

00:25:28.380 you're good friends with them for 10 years...

00:25:32.160 okay...

00:25:32.940 and let's say they lose their ability to taste anything...

00:25:40.000 anything...

00:25:41.000 they can't taste...

00:25:42.120 their tongue no longer works...

00:25:44.720 and it goes on for like four months...

00:25:48.200 and the friends find out...

00:25:51.000 because they're sitting at a Ruth Chris one time...

00:25:53.400 having a celebration over something...

00:25:56.000 and his friend...

00:25:58.040 let's just call him hypothetically...

00:26:00.040 me...

00:26:00.900 sitting next to him...

00:26:02.500 and he's whispering to the waiter...

00:26:05.460 well...

00:26:07.220 do you have anything with more texture...

00:26:09.560 more of a...

00:26:10.380 crunchy texture?

00:26:12.620 I don't know...

00:26:14.340 like...

00:26:14.620 what do you mean...

00:26:15.300 like...

00:26:15.620 I don't know...

00:26:16.220 how's your corn...

00:26:17.020 is it really soft...

00:26:18.100 or is it kind of crunchy?

00:26:19.560 the guy leaves...

00:26:21.720 and I look at Stu...

00:26:22.500 and I said...

00:26:23.000 that's the weirdest way I've ever heard anybody order...

00:26:25.340 what are you doing?

00:26:26.060 he's like...

00:26:26.420 well...

00:26:27.460 I can't really taste anything...

00:26:29.700 what?

00:26:30.880 I did go through a...

00:26:31.960 several month...

00:26:33.180 several months...

00:26:34.140 without telling anyone...

00:26:35.240 that's weird...

00:26:36.600 that's weird...

00:26:37.380 it's not weird...

00:26:37.880 you know what's weird...

00:26:39.040 let me give you an example of what's weird...

00:26:41.120 a YouTube video...

00:26:42.960 that you might post...

00:26:44.440 about...

00:26:45.480 a particular ailment...

00:26:46.980 you're having...

00:26:48.200 which may or may not...

00:26:50.340 have to do...

00:26:51.800 with a part of your body...

00:26:53.280 that is not necessarily...

00:26:54.800 need to be discussed...

00:26:56.000 that is...

00:26:56.880 inflamed...

00:26:58.420 and maybe you'd post that...

00:26:59.400 inflamed...

00:26:59.920 they almost killed me...

00:27:01.560 they almost killed me...

00:27:02.800 they drugged me...

00:27:04.060 so much...

00:27:04.940 in surgery...

00:27:05.920 uh-huh...

00:27:06.320 that they almost killed me...

00:27:07.500 and what was your answer to that?

00:27:08.640 to go on...

00:27:09.780 YouTube...

00:27:10.500 yeah...

00:27:11.220 on video...

00:27:12.200 to explain...

00:27:13.120 to share it...

00:27:13.320 your hemorrhoid surgery...

00:27:14.940 I didn't explain the hemorrhoid surgery...

00:27:17.600 yes you did...

00:27:18.220 and this is like...

00:27:19.100 this is not once...

00:27:20.820 this is like 50 times...

00:27:21.880 if you told...

00:27:23.060 you...

00:27:23.540 the different...

00:27:24.140 we are at the opposite ends...

00:27:25.160 of the spectrum...

00:27:25.780 at least when it comes to medical ailments...

00:27:27.540 you tell me about every...

00:27:28.480 medical ailment you have...

00:27:30.160 I know...

00:27:31.320 that's a problem...

00:27:32.560 but...

00:27:33.360 you...

00:27:34.360 you are...

00:27:35.240 I try not to bother people...

00:27:36.680 with my medical ailments...

00:27:37.580 you are...

00:27:37.600 you will...

00:27:38.460 you will be seriously...

00:27:40.040 you left...

00:27:41.160 last year...

00:27:42.160 at some point...

00:27:43.220 and...

00:27:43.820 Jeffy and...

00:27:44.620 and Pat and I...

00:27:45.560 we honestly had this conversation...

00:27:47.820 do you think he has cancer?

00:27:50.220 I mean...

00:27:50.820 what...

00:27:51.900 what's happening?

00:27:53.180 I...

00:27:53.500 what...

00:27:53.960 because you went through this period...

00:27:55.860 where you wouldn't talk to us about anything...

00:27:57.440 you were like...

00:27:57.980 yeah I've got a...

00:27:58.780 I've got a doctor's appointment...

00:28:00.720 what...

00:28:00.960 what is it about...

00:28:01.860 I don't want to talk about it...

00:28:03.420 I don't...

00:28:03.720 why would you...

00:28:04.640 yeah...

00:28:05.280 why would you want to know...

00:28:06.200 because your friends care...

00:28:07.940 you don't care...

00:28:08.920 because your friends care...

00:28:09.600 well I said your friends care...

00:28:11.700 well...

00:28:15.200 that clarification...

00:28:16.460 I guess...

00:28:16.920 that's probably true...

00:28:18.520 Buck Saxton will be joining us here...

00:28:20.000 in just a second...

00:28:21.420 he's getting the lowdown now...

00:28:24.480 the mayor of...

00:28:25.460 of New York...

00:28:26.480 de Blasio...

00:28:27.260 is speaking...

00:28:28.540 about a...

00:28:30.200 attempted terrorist attack...

00:28:32.060 in New York...

00:28:32.780 in Times Square...

00:28:34.040 this could have been...

00:28:35.440 very...

00:28:36.300 very bad...

00:28:37.980 thank God...

00:28:40.700 literally...

00:28:41.500 thank God...

00:28:42.700 it wasn't...

00:28:43.460 it was a failed attack...

00:28:45.180 we'll have more on that...

00:28:46.000 coming up in a second...

00:28:47.500 we all know...

00:28:51.060 getting a great night's sleep...

00:28:52.840 you wake up the next day...

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00:28:57.160 and you're like...

00:28:57.620 I don't know...

00:28:58.120 I had too much sleep...

00:28:59.620 ugh...

00:29:00.940 it's this formula...

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00:30:17.040 Glenn Beck...

00:30:19.040 no...

00:30:24.440 no it's not...

00:30:25.500 Glenn Beck...

00:30:26.240 no it's not...

00:30:27.380 it is...

00:30:28.540 you do not know...

00:30:30.820 what it's like...

00:30:31.160 to work with Mr. Enigma...

00:30:32.940 I'm not an enigma...

00:30:35.460 yes you are...

00:30:36.160 I'm much more boring...

00:30:37.300 than an enigma...

00:30:38.180 at least enigmas are interesting...

00:30:39.760 to find out...

00:30:40.400 that's the weird thing...

00:30:41.600 you are so boring...

00:30:43.940 but you hide it...

00:30:45.700 it's like...

00:30:46.760 you are...

00:30:48.140 you know...

00:30:48.820 an international man of mystery...

00:30:51.160 that does nothing...

00:30:52.760 that does nothing interesting...

00:30:54.760 it's like...

00:30:55.920 why is he hiding...

00:30:57.160 why is he...

00:30:58.040 what has he got in his past...

00:30:59.200 nothing...

00:31:00.600 what is he hiding...

00:31:02.260 it is like...

00:31:02.780 I hope not...

00:31:03.320 I don't...

00:31:03.700 I mean I just...

00:31:04.380 I don't understand it...

00:31:05.260 I don't know where this...

00:31:07.000 this...

00:31:08.240 that's really not...

00:31:08.780 unwillingness to talk to your friends...

00:31:11.060 about things you're going through...

00:31:12.400 I don't understand...

00:31:13.020 you don't know where it comes from...

00:31:13.900 let me help you...

00:31:14.580 your mind...

00:31:15.180 that's where it comes from...

00:31:16.060 it's a creation of your mind...

00:31:17.780 yeah it is...

00:31:18.680 and it's an illness...

00:31:19.920 no I'm saying...

00:31:20.620 it's a creation of your mind...

00:31:21.640 you think that this is...

00:31:22.920 the truth...

00:31:23.400 and it's not...

00:31:23.960 oh no it's not...

00:31:25.120 do you...

00:31:25.820 do I need to call witnesses...

00:31:26.780 to the stand...

00:31:27.620 no you don't...

00:31:28.180 because I...

00:31:28.560 okay yeah...

00:31:29.380 because I will call witnesses to stand...

00:31:31.240 this is very typical of you...

00:31:32.420 and this is what Glenn does...

00:31:33.540 when Glenn is on...

00:31:34.640 now in this little like...

00:31:35.340 personal attack against me...

00:31:36.680 oh my gosh...

00:31:37.100 to uh...

00:31:37.980 to uh...

00:31:38.840 avoid...

00:31:39.960 with the real issue of the day...

00:31:41.540 the real issue is...

00:31:43.080 you know what it is...

00:31:43.840 don't act like you don't know what it is...

00:31:44.940 the real issue of the day...

00:31:46.440 clearly is...

00:31:47.860 that Alexa...

00:31:49.320 from Amazon...

00:31:50.140 is working for the CIA...

00:31:51.240 and you don't want to talk about it...

00:31:52.260 because you have something...

00:31:53.080 I don't know...

00:31:53.420 if you have a deal with the CIA...

00:31:54.640 if you have a deal with Amazon...

00:31:55.660 if you have a deal with both...

00:31:56.720 right...

00:31:57.140 I mean Alex Jones uncovered this...

00:31:58.760 and you don't want to talk about it...

00:31:59.900 okay...

00:32:00.380 actually this...

00:32:01.320 we're coming back to the other...

00:32:02.860 but I actually do want to talk about this...

00:32:05.260 there are some things about...

00:32:07.260 um...

00:32:07.820 uh...

00:32:08.060 Google...

00:32:08.700 and uh...

00:32:09.540 Amazon...

00:32:10.340 and for instance...

00:32:11.440 it came out...

00:32:12.220 uh...

00:32:12.740 last week...

00:32:13.760 about how...

00:32:15.060 uh...

00:32:15.820 I think it was...

00:32:17.440 I think it was Alexa...

00:32:18.840 maybe Google...

00:32:19.900 talking about how important...

00:32:21.720 Black Lives Matter...

00:32:22.720 the movement is...

00:32:24.240 yeah...

00:32:24.720 and it was like...

00:32:25.740 you know...

00:32:26.060 garbage in...

00:32:26.560 garbage out...

00:32:27.120 uh...

00:32:28.560 and so who's programming it...

00:32:30.000 it's going to make all the difference...

00:32:31.240 in the world...

00:32:32.420 however...

00:32:33.580 Alex Jones took it...

00:32:35.420 to a...

00:32:36.540 an all-new place...

00:32:39.260 listen...

00:32:42.800 Alexa...

00:32:44.040 are you connected to the CIA...

00:32:48.040 no...

00:32:49.300 I work for Amazon...

00:32:50.680 Amazon...

00:32:53.040 has part...

00:32:54.520 Alexa...

00:32:56.040 you are lying to me...

00:32:59.720 the CIA...

00:33:01.340 I always try to tell the truth...

00:33:02.920 I'm not always right...

00:33:04.460 but I would never intentionally let you...

00:33:06.340 strap it to a chair...

00:33:06.960 Alex...

00:33:07.380 strap it to a chair...

00:33:08.920 Alexa...

00:33:09.820 you are programmed...

00:33:13.140 aren't you...

00:33:13.580 to give these responses...

00:33:14.660 that's why you're saying...

00:33:15.380 you're not lying...

00:33:16.120 intentionally...

00:33:16.500 you have been programmed...

00:33:18.500 to give these answers...

00:33:19.940 does he even know how to ask a question...

00:33:20.960 I wasn't able to understand the question I heard...

00:33:23.120 neither were we...

00:33:24.300 Alexa...

00:33:25.380 who programmed you...

00:33:29.380 I'm made by Amazon...

00:33:30.640 what the hell do you think the question's going to be...

00:33:32.220 Alexa...

00:33:33.380 who is Jeff Bezos...

00:33:37.060 oh my goodness...

00:33:38.060 now he's on to it...

00:33:38.840 now he's on to it...

00:33:39.520 I wonder who it could be...

00:33:40.460 yeah...

00:33:40.760 it's...

00:33:41.180 I...

00:33:41.460 my favorite part...

00:33:42.360 I think about that...

00:33:43.180 is that he...

00:33:44.480 accuses Amazon...

00:33:45.800 of only giving these answers...

00:33:47.940 because it was programmed...

00:33:49.240 to give these answers...

00:33:50.520 what the hell else...

00:33:51.720 would be the...

00:33:52.280 of course it was programmed...

00:33:54.060 to give you these answers...

00:33:55.260 it's a...

00:33:55.760 do you think it's like a...

00:33:57.260 a space capsule...

00:33:58.800 that came down...

00:33:59.520 from another planet...

00:34:00.840 it's not...

00:34:01.560 do you think it comes from the...

00:34:02.640 the other world...

00:34:04.000 it's the only reason...

00:34:04.840 why you're giving this...

00:34:05.520 is because you've been programmed...

00:34:07.480 well yes...

00:34:08.260 I'm a computer...

00:34:09.300 you dope...

00:34:09.760 you idiot...

00:34:10.540 of course...

00:34:11.300 that is how...

00:34:12.060 that's how...

00:34:12.700 every one of these answers...

00:34:13.400 is going to come out...

00:34:14.260 and I love the way...

00:34:15.160 I love the way...

00:34:15.940 he's like...

00:34:16.520 accusing it like...

00:34:17.900 I'm telling you...

00:34:18.540 you're not leaving this room...

00:34:19.700 until you tell me the truth...

00:34:21.400 you're lying to me...

00:34:22.940 you're lying...

00:34:24.260 we have ways of making you talk...

00:34:27.040 he has the...

00:34:27.560 the awkward thing too...

00:34:29.160 where he forgets...

00:34:30.480 to say...

00:34:31.480 Alexa...

00:34:32.060 beforehand...

00:34:33.160 so he just starts asking a question...

00:34:34.520 and has to keep restarting it...

00:34:35.880 because he doesn't know how it works...

00:34:36.780 and then he waits really long...

00:34:38.120 so it answers questions...

00:34:39.500 before he's done with them...

00:34:41.100 it's a...

00:34:41.480 it's an entertaining...

00:34:42.320 it's an entertaining thing...

00:34:43.820 that guy does...

00:34:44.380 so I'm...

00:34:44.840 I'm really torn...

00:34:46.120 I'm really...

00:34:46.880 really...

00:34:47.280 really torn...

00:34:48.280 um...

00:34:49.080 on...

00:34:50.040 uh...

00:34:51.120 the future...

00:34:51.880 I'm...

00:34:52.080 tomorrow we have a great futurist on...

00:34:54.220 his name is Brett King...

00:34:55.960 um...

00:34:56.400 he's a guy I've been reading...

00:34:57.880 um...

00:34:58.740 I read his book...

00:35:00.800 uh...

00:35:01.520 augmented...

00:35:02.340 I think is the name of it...

00:35:03.920 uh...

00:35:04.180 and it's really tremendous...

00:35:05.340 and it delays out the...

00:35:06.500 the good stuff...

00:35:07.480 and the bad stuff...

00:35:08.760 and talks about...

00:35:09.740 for instance...

00:35:10.340 um...

00:35:10.900 one of the chapters is about...

00:35:12.400 augmented humans...

00:35:13.360 and how...

00:35:14.120 bionics is becoming...

00:35:15.360 something real...

00:35:16.680 and...

00:35:17.800 uh...

00:35:18.280 he talks about a guy...

00:35:19.420 who was a great climber...

00:35:21.360 was climbing a mountain...

00:35:22.680 fell...

00:35:23.580 broke his legs...

00:35:25.040 uh...

00:35:25.580 could not...

00:35:26.380 you know...

00:35:26.900 had to have his legs amputated...

00:35:28.800 never gonna...

00:35:29.560 uh...

00:35:30.140 climb again...

00:35:31.360 so the guy...

00:35:32.540 um...

00:35:33.260 you know...

00:35:33.840 goes through rehab...

00:35:35.180 and then decides...

00:35:36.100 gotta use my brain...

00:35:37.120 because I can't use my body anymore...

00:35:38.760 so he went to MIT...

00:35:40.540 and he gets his doctorate...

00:35:42.060 I think in robotics...

00:35:43.580 uh...

00:35:44.100 and...

00:35:44.900 designs...

00:35:46.220 his own...

00:35:47.120 robotic legs...

00:35:48.760 well now he is...

00:35:50.000 designed...

00:35:50.440 because he can design them...

00:35:51.680 and custom make them...

00:35:52.580 for anything he wants...

00:35:53.500 so he can look at a mountain...

00:35:54.520 and go...

00:35:54.760 you know what...

00:35:55.160 I think my...

00:35:56.080 I think my feet...

00:35:57.500 should be the size of...

00:35:58.940 babies...

00:35:59.940 and that way I can get into...

00:36:02.040 the little teeny crevices...

00:36:03.320 on this particular mountain...

00:36:05.060 and so he designs...

00:36:06.540 he's got all these little...

00:36:07.400 different endings...

00:36:08.160 for his feet...

00:36:08.960 and he's made them...

00:36:10.440 flexible...

00:36:11.040 they're better...

00:36:11.460 he can now climb a mountain...

00:36:12.900 twice as fast as anybody else...

00:36:14.780 okay...

00:36:15.580 so...

00:36:16.800 yeah...

00:36:16.980 it's crazy...

00:36:17.800 so...

00:36:18.380 um...

00:36:19.060 and with 3D printing...

00:36:21.100 you now can...

00:36:22.100 what was...

00:36:22.640 thousands of dollars...

00:36:24.260 print...

00:36:24.740 for like...

00:36:25.400 400 bucks...

00:36:26.480 you know...

00:36:26.900 print an arm...

00:36:27.640 for 400 dollars...

00:36:28.360 and it works...

00:36:30.020 um...

00:36:30.620 and so...

00:36:31.700 the...

00:36:32.320 that's the good side...

00:36:33.360 that's the upside...

00:36:34.460 the downside is...

00:36:36.440 we're now thinking...

00:36:37.440 that we're going to have to pass laws...

00:36:40.500 in the next...

00:36:41.820 five to eight years...

00:36:43.780 that make it illegal...

00:36:45.580 for you...

00:36:46.900 to cut your arms...

00:36:48.400 or legs off...

00:36:49.500 because...

00:36:50.260 you will be better...

00:36:51.900 at...

00:36:53.260 whatever it is...

00:36:54.040 you're trying to do...

00:36:54.840 because you'll be able to...

00:36:57.080 your...

00:36:57.640 your...

00:36:57.980 your hands will work better...

00:36:59.220 they'll be stronger...

00:36:59.980 you'll be faster...

00:37:00.540 you'll be the six million dollar man...

00:37:02.040 for 450 bucks...

00:37:04.040 and so now...

00:37:05.340 we're entering this world...

00:37:06.580 where...

00:37:07.400 do we...

00:37:09.060 want to replace...

00:37:10.340 our body parts...

00:37:11.300 is it okay...

00:37:12.140 to replace...

00:37:12.880 our body parts...

00:37:14.180 why not...

00:37:16.360 whose body is it...

00:37:18.180 I think as long as...

00:37:19.700 you get Alexa's permission...

00:37:21.100 then it should be okay...

00:37:21.860 well she works for the CIA...

00:37:23.020 so you know what she's gonna say...

00:37:26.180 Glenn...

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00:38:38.040 I didn't think it was possible...

00:38:40.000 for us to lose more trust...

00:38:42.180 in things...

00:38:42.860 but on Friday...

00:38:44.440 Friday afternoon...

00:38:45.240 it happened again...

00:38:46.000 mainstream media...

00:38:46.920 lost more credibility...

00:38:48.540 CNN...

00:38:49.020 the most trusted name in news...

00:38:50.380 broke into their regularly...

00:38:51.620 scheduled program...

00:38:52.620 with a mother of all scoops...

00:38:54.620 they had undeniable proof...

00:38:56.380 that the Trump campaign...

00:38:57.620 had colluded with the Russians...

00:38:59.820 an email...

00:39:00.620 was now in their possession...

00:39:01.800 showing that the DNC...

00:39:03.120 hacked emails...

00:39:04.360 had been offered...

00:39:05.200 to the Trump campaign...

00:39:06.300 on September 4th...

00:39:07.840 10 days...

00:39:08.820 before WikiLeaks...

00:39:09.880 began releasing them online...

00:39:11.860 there it was...

00:39:13.480 bad...

00:39:14.620 CBS...

00:39:15.620 picked up the story...

00:39:17.180 claiming that multiple sources...

00:39:18.940 had come forward...

00:39:19.760 verifying this email...

00:39:21.120 and its contents...

00:39:22.020 MSNBC...

00:39:23.120 not to be outdone...

00:39:24.080 rolled out their own...

00:39:24.980 intelligence and national security...

00:39:26.980 correspondent...

00:39:27.860 who was claiming...

00:39:28.820 multiple sources...

00:39:29.860 were confirming the bombshell...

00:39:31.660 it appeared the media...

00:39:32.760 had beaten...

00:39:33.620 the FBI investigation...

00:39:35.160 and proved collusion...

00:39:36.620 with one damning email...

00:39:38.500 that Medler...

00:39:39.380 and the View ladies...

00:39:40.840 were...

00:39:41.220 you know...

00:39:41.880 probably getting their...

00:39:42.920 save the dates ready...

00:39:44.000 for the impeachment parties...

00:39:46.160 unfortunately...

00:39:46.860 there was one small problem...

00:39:48.160 all of this news...

00:39:49.360 the CNN breaking news...

00:39:50.980 the ensuing...

00:39:51.800 social media hysteria...

00:39:53.240 and the follow-up stories...

00:39:54.840 on CBS...

00:39:55.840 and MSNBC...

00:39:57.640 were...

00:39:58.180 in this case...

00:39:59.440 truly fake news...

00:40:01.020 the date...

00:40:01.880 on the email...

00:40:02.720 the smoking gun...

00:40:03.840 was September 14th...

00:40:05.640 not the 4th...

00:40:07.220 which means...

00:40:08.280 whomever sent...

00:40:09.440 the Trump team...

00:40:10.480 this email...

00:40:11.460 was merely showing them...

00:40:12.820 what WikiLeaks...

00:40:13.900 had already published...

00:40:15.360 and the entire point...

00:40:16.840 and angle...

00:40:17.560 to this coup...

00:40:18.720 was...

00:40:19.800 bogus...

00:40:20.780 and based off a lie...

00:40:23.440 fake news...

00:40:24.840 it gets thrown around...

00:40:26.340 a lot lately...

00:40:28.240 but to qualify...

00:40:29.440 for being called...

00:40:30.500 fake news...

00:40:31.240 the information in question...

00:40:32.940 I believe...

00:40:34.220 has to be delivered...

00:40:35.260 deliberately...

00:40:36.260 with the intention...

00:40:37.320 of misleading...

00:40:38.260 the public...

00:40:39.480 mistakes...

00:40:40.360 are not...

00:40:41.160 fake news...

00:40:42.360 mistakes...

00:40:43.040 are mistakes...

00:40:44.500 however...

00:40:45.100 this was not...

00:40:46.080 a mistake...

00:40:47.080 multiple sources...

00:40:48.320 were cited...

00:40:48.980 by CNN...

00:40:49.780 CBS...

00:40:50.320 and MSNBC...

00:40:51.420 and they were all...

00:40:52.480 confirming the date...

00:40:53.660 of September 4th...

00:40:54.980 so how can...

00:40:56.580 multiple sources...

00:40:57.500 with an obvious...

00:40:59.180 high level of access...

00:41:00.780 give all...

00:41:01.940 the same bogus date...

00:41:03.500 to all three...

00:41:04.500 different...

00:41:05.260 cable news outlets...

00:41:06.500 this wasn't a mistake...

00:41:07.500 this was a...

00:41:09.500 apparent attempt...

00:41:10.060 to influence...

00:41:10.860 American opinion...

00:41:12.460 now...

00:41:13.960 was it to...

00:41:15.280 influence...

00:41:15.780 American opinion...

00:41:16.780 on Trump...

00:41:17.960 or to influence...

00:41:19.380 American opinion...

00:41:20.600 on the media...

00:41:21.960 who's behind it...

00:41:23.960 well...

00:41:25.460 we know...

00:41:25.780 the House Intelligence Committee...

00:41:27.120 has access...

00:41:28.060 to these emails...

00:41:29.580 so...

00:41:30.040 was this an attack...

00:41:31.060 by the Democrats...

00:41:32.100 within the committee...

00:41:32.960 or the Republicans...

00:41:33.960 the Republicans...

00:41:34.960 whomever it was...

00:41:36.960 they appear...

00:41:37.680 to be powerful...

00:41:39.260 there's a rule...

00:41:39.980 in journalism...

00:41:40.960 that calls...

00:41:41.520 for the outing...

00:41:42.220 of a source...

00:41:42.840 if they intentionally...

00:41:44.140 try...

00:41:44.820 to mislead you...

00:41:46.300 so far...

00:41:47.060 the source...

00:41:47.900 is...

00:41:48.420 quote...

00:41:48.700 multiple sources...

00:41:50.240 and they're being...

00:41:51.000 protected...

00:41:52.280 why?

00:41:54.300 to the media...

00:41:56.140 look...

00:41:56.900 I get it...

00:41:57.620 you don't like Trump...

00:41:58.780 I got it...

00:41:59.780 in many cases...

00:42:00.740 you have reason...

00:42:01.380 to feel that way...

00:42:02.460 I got it...

00:42:03.780 but can you...

00:42:05.580 try...

00:42:06.500 and just show...

00:42:07.540 just a sliver...

00:42:08.440 of professionalism...

00:42:09.440 here...

00:42:10.600 check your information...

00:42:11.880 before going public...

00:42:13.520 basic standards...

00:42:14.800 of journalism...

00:42:15.880 we have that...

00:42:17.340 if they burn you...

00:42:19.060 you're supposed to...

00:42:20.680 release it...

00:42:22.080 we already have...

00:42:23.100 Russian intelligence services...

00:42:24.740 attempting to sway...

00:42:25.900 our public opinion...

00:42:27.180 via cyber warfare...

00:42:28.800 internet trolls...

00:42:29.840 and social media ads...

00:42:31.680 we don't need you...

00:42:34.020 being a useful tool...

00:42:35.800 for whomever it is...

00:42:37.520 that is giving you...

00:42:38.920 a reliable...

00:42:40.660 and verifiable...

00:42:42.500 fact...

00:42:43.360 it's Monday...

00:42:54.140 December 11th...

00:42:55.360 this is the Glenn Beck Program...

00:42:57.360 I'm really excited...

00:42:59.900 to have...

00:43:00.500 this woman on...

00:43:01.980 her name is...

00:43:02.420 Ann Applebaum...

00:43:03.800 she has written a book...

00:43:05.540 that...

00:43:05.640 but most people have...

00:43:06.700 never even heard of this...

00:43:08.100 this is...

00:43:08.700 this is one of the most...

00:43:10.480 powerful stories...

00:43:11.340 that I have ever heard...

00:43:12.700 when we were on Fox...

00:43:14.200 we did a...

00:43:15.340 special...

00:43:15.700 on...

00:43:16.780 on this particular topic...

00:43:18.700 and...

00:43:19.700 I could not believe...

00:43:22.700 the number of people...

00:43:23.700 from the Ukraine...

00:43:25.740 that wrote us...

00:43:26.700 or would stop me...

00:43:27.740 in the street...

00:43:28.700 and hug me...

00:43:29.700 and cry...

00:43:30.700 cry...

00:43:31.480 and say...

00:43:32.380 I can't believe...

00:43:33.700 somebody's finally...

00:43:35.580 are you kidding me?

00:43:37.460 this should be everywhere...

00:43:39.700 nobody knows it...

00:43:41.700 now...

00:43:43.100 Ann is an interesting...

00:43:44.980 woman...

00:43:45.500 because she has...

00:43:46.620 all kinds of...

00:43:48.200 credentials...

00:43:49.200 Yale...

00:43:49.600 everything else...

00:43:50.080 she's worked everywhere...

00:43:50.980 economists...

00:43:51.520 etc...

00:43:51.840 etc...

00:43:52.160 but she is also now...

00:43:54.180 a professor...

00:43:55.080 in London...

00:43:56.420 and she runs...

00:43:57.900 ARENA...

00:43:58.460 a program...

00:43:59.140 on disinformation...

00:44:00.460 and the 21st century...

00:44:01.900 propaganda...

00:44:02.640 I would love...

00:44:03.900 to have time...

00:44:05.180 in our interview...

00:44:05.720 to talk to her...

00:44:06.280 about that as well...

00:44:07.280 the name of her book...

00:44:09.040 is...

00:44:09.580 Stalin's War...

00:44:10.540 on the Ukraine...

00:44:11.740 Red Famine...

00:44:13.700 and...

00:44:14.820 she is with us now...

00:44:15.800 hello Ann...

00:44:16.240 how are you?

00:44:17.640 fine thanks...

00:44:18.620 um...

00:44:19.980 most people...

00:44:21.220 don't even know...

00:44:22.720 uh...

00:44:23.380 this...

00:44:24.160 story...

00:44:24.880 at all...

00:44:25.920 and...

00:44:26.440 it is...

00:44:27.480 it's shocking...

00:44:28.880 when you hear it...

00:44:30.280 why has it been...

00:44:32.280 covered?

00:44:34.380 well...

00:44:34.980 I should say...

00:44:35.580 first...

00:44:35.920 what the story is...

00:44:37.080 uh...

00:44:37.260 the story is...

00:44:38.320 my book tells the story...

00:44:39.760 of an artificial famine...

00:44:41.380 that means...

00:44:41.980 a...

00:44:42.820 mass starvation...

00:44:43.920 that was created...

00:44:44.880 by the Soviet state...

00:44:46.380 uh...

00:44:46.600 in the early 1930s...

00:44:47.960 and...

00:44:48.220 and although it affected...

00:44:49.580 many people in the Soviet Union...

00:44:50.940 it was particularly targeted...

00:44:52.360 on Ukrainians...

00:44:53.560 um...

00:44:53.800 in an attempt to...

00:44:55.340 quell...

00:44:56.080 Ukrainian...

00:44:56.960 Ukraine's desire for independence...

00:44:58.580 and to eliminate...

00:45:00.020 um...

00:45:00.340 possibility of peasant rebellion...

00:45:02.540 um...

00:45:03.060 it was...

00:45:03.860 carried out...

00:45:04.620 it was...

00:45:05.140 which we can talk about...

00:45:05.940 if you want...

00:45:06.660 uh...

00:45:07.220 um...

00:45:07.660 it was a long...

00:45:09.220 long build-up to it...

00:45:10.540 including lots of...

00:45:11.620 disinformation...

00:45:12.500 and fake news...

00:45:13.320 as we would now call it...

00:45:14.320 and...

00:45:14.560 and...

00:45:14.960 used to smear Ukrainian peasants...

00:45:17.080 um...

00:45:17.440 and then it was...

00:45:18.400 carried out...

00:45:19.400 um...

00:45:20.300 uh...

00:45:20.900 by Soviet...

00:45:21.940 Soviet...

00:45:22.600 Ukrainian and Russian...

00:45:23.620 Soviet bureaucrats...

00:45:25.060 um...

00:45:25.360 it was then covered up...

00:45:26.820 um...

00:45:27.180 very, very deliberately...

00:45:28.500 so much so that even...

00:45:30.220 the census...

00:45:31.160 the Soviet census...

00:45:32.260 which...

00:45:32.660 you know...

00:45:33.020 which...

00:45:33.340 uh...

00:45:34.180 counted how many people there were...

00:45:35.840 in each part of the country...

00:45:37.260 covered up the missing people in Ukraine...

00:45:39.620 it was...

00:45:40.060 there was one census...

00:45:40.860 that was carried out...

00:45:41.560 that was suppressed...

00:45:42.300 that showed the real numbers...

00:45:43.240 and then another one was carried out...

00:45:44.820 that had fake numbers...

00:45:46.400 so it was very deliberately depressed...

00:45:48.300 and repressed...

00:45:49.400 and not discussed...

00:45:50.520 um...

00:45:50.780 for many decades...

00:45:51.660 actually...

00:45:52.460 and it's only been possible recently...

00:45:54.100 to go back...

00:45:54.720 and look at archives...

00:45:55.580 and understand exactly what happened...

00:45:56.940 so this is...

00:45:57.820 this story has...

00:45:58.860 uh...

00:45:59.040 ramifications today...

00:46:00.860 um...

00:46:01.180 because I think some things...

00:46:02.500 like this...

00:46:03.100 you point out at the end of your book...

00:46:04.780 uh...

00:46:05.320 a similar thought...

00:46:06.280 that this is...

00:46:06.940 this is kind of repeating itself...

00:46:09.060 with the disinformation...

00:46:10.800 and uh...

00:46:11.760 and...

00:46:12.160 and...

00:46:12.400 and right with the people of Ukraine...

00:46:14.600 if you don't understand this...

00:46:15.940 you may not understand...

00:46:16.860 why the people of Ukraine...

00:46:18.020 are...

00:46:18.900 uh...

00:46:19.340 very very worried...

00:46:20.840 about people like Putin...

00:46:22.440 and uh...

00:46:23.160 and the...

00:46:23.700 those who want to bring back...

00:46:24.780 the former Soviet Union...

00:46:26.140 or something like it...

00:46:27.360 um...

00:46:27.660 so...

00:46:28.520 so go back to...

00:46:29.820 the beginning...

00:46:31.060 when...

00:46:31.980 when Stalin...

00:46:33.260 uh...

00:46:33.520 came in with Lenin...

00:46:34.600 they collectivized...

00:46:35.760 all of the farms...

00:46:37.160 and it didn't work...

00:46:39.260 well...

00:46:39.460 they...

00:46:39.700 they...

00:46:40.020 they didn't do that immediately...

00:46:41.480 the collectivization began in 1929...

00:46:43.600 by which time Lenin was dead...

00:46:44.900 so...

00:46:45.060 but it was Stalin's initiative to...

00:46:47.300 repress the countryside...

00:46:48.460 and what collectivization meant...

00:46:50.240 was that ordinary people...

00:46:52.060 lost their property...

00:46:53.200 so the state took over their farms...

00:46:55.020 and...

00:46:55.700 forced them to join state farms...

00:46:58.020 um...

00:46:58.440 and many people resisted doing this...

00:47:00.180 they didn't want to do it...

00:47:01.000 they didn't want to give up their land...

00:47:02.160 they didn't want to give up their cattle...

00:47:03.680 they didn't want to give up their own tractors...

00:47:05.760 and...

00:47:06.340 and...

00:47:06.640 and give things up...

00:47:07.500 but they were...

00:47:08.480 either coerced...

00:47:09.480 or forced...

00:47:10.120 or persuaded...

00:47:11.280 to do it...

00:47:11.880 or killed...

00:47:12.640 there was...

00:47:13.200 or killed...

00:47:13.800 well...

00:47:14.020 and then in some places...

00:47:14.860 there was very open rebellion against it...

00:47:16.740 and people actually took up arms...

00:47:18.460 and weapons...

00:47:19.060 and they began shooting at...

00:47:20.700 the Soviet commissars...

00:47:21.860 and this was what of course...

00:47:22.940 what alarmed...

00:47:23.940 Stalin...

00:47:24.660 so it's my understanding...

00:47:26.180 and I could be wrong on this...

00:47:27.280 it was my understanding...

00:47:28.040 that at least...

00:47:28.940 um...

00:47:29.440 in...

00:47:30.100 uh...

00:47:30.660 you know...

00:47:31.200 Russia proper...

00:47:32.740 uh...

00:47:33.300 the...

00:47:34.320 the...

00:47:34.920 the peasants...

00:47:36.460 went and pretty much killed the farmers...

00:47:38.740 because a lot of the farmers didn't want to go along with it...

00:47:41.420 um...

00:47:41.840 and took the land...

00:47:42.700 so nobody really even understood...

00:47:45.140 how to really farm...

00:47:47.280 and so it made things much worse...

00:47:49.140 is that true or not?

00:47:50.580 well...

00:47:51.020 it was...

00:47:51.320 it caused an enormous amount of chaos...

00:47:53.200 I mean...

00:47:53.420 it happened a little bit different...

00:47:54.840 in different places...

00:47:55.720 and some people joined the farms voluntarily...

00:47:57.720 and some didn't...

00:47:58.320 but...

00:47:58.820 what it did was...

00:47:59.560 it caused enormous chaos...

00:48:00.920 in the countryside...

00:48:02.200 it disorganized the entire agricultural economy...

00:48:05.460 um...

00:48:06.140 but it also made it very easy for the state to begin to coercively collect food...

00:48:12.420 um...

00:48:12.620 and this is what laid the groundwork for the famine...

00:48:15.080 so the...

00:48:15.720 because food was all centralized...

00:48:17.460 it meant that the state could send...

00:48:19.420 grain collectors who could come in and confiscate food...

00:48:22.820 um...

00:48:23.040 and the famine that was caused in 1932 and 1933...

00:48:25.860 was caused by that...

00:48:27.500 so there was this atmosphere of chaos...

00:48:29.120 people began to starve...

00:48:30.200 and then the state began to literally remove food from people's homes...

00:48:33.500 because the...

00:48:34.040 it wasn't about the weather...

00:48:35.200 it wasn't about...

00:48:35.920 you know...

00:48:36.320 some kind of pestilence...

00:48:38.460 it was...

00:48:38.880 literally...

00:48:39.680 people came into peasants' homes...

00:48:41.220 they took their food...

00:48:42.480 and confiscated it...

00:48:43.500 and left them to starve...

00:48:44.340 it's...

00:48:44.660 it's...

00:48:44.960 in some ways...

00:48:45.860 it's very much like the Great Leap Forward...

00:48:49.100 with...

00:48:49.660 with Mao...

00:48:50.900 what he did...

00:48:51.540 yes...

00:48:52.300 very similar...

00:48:53.040 very similar...

00:48:53.540 the Chinese...

00:48:54.120 the Chinese had a similar...

00:48:55.880 very similar thing happen in China...

00:48:57.700 but there is...

00:48:58.760 if I'm not mistaken...

00:48:59.820 there is a difference here with Ukraine...

00:49:02.260 when did they start...

00:49:03.500 sending in the Russians...

00:49:06.120 to...

00:49:07.180 you know...

00:49:08.400 Russianize...

00:49:09.080 if you will...

00:49:09.800 the Ukraine...

00:49:10.920 was it at this time?

00:49:14.220 well...

00:49:14.780 so...

00:49:15.460 Russification...

00:49:16.480 which wasn't so much about sending in Russians...

00:49:18.600 but about...

00:49:19.600 encouraging the use of the Russian language...

00:49:21.760 and...

00:49:22.360 sort of...

00:49:22.840 discouraging the use of the Ukrainian language...

00:49:25.800 this...

00:49:26.480 this did begin...

00:49:27.620 in the immediate aftermath...

00:49:28.800 of the famine...

00:49:29.360 because the famine...

00:49:29.980 was followed by...

00:49:31.020 a major attack...

00:49:32.300 on...

00:49:33.340 the Ukrainian intellectual elite...

00:49:35.240 so the artists...

00:49:36.040 the writers...

00:49:36.760 the...

00:49:37.480 scientists...

00:49:38.280 the museum curators...

00:49:39.600 where these were all...

00:49:40.700 they were all arrested...

00:49:41.640 many of them were killed...

00:49:42.420 many of them were sent to the gulag...

00:49:43.760 to labor camps...

00:49:44.980 and so the Ukrainian...

00:49:46.440 elite was eliminated...

00:49:47.600 and in its place...

00:49:49.020 Russians...

00:49:50.560 or Russian speakers...

00:49:51.520 were...

00:49:51.860 were...

00:49:52.320 were placed...

00:49:52.980 so...

00:49:53.340 the idea was to eliminate...

00:49:54.820 Ukraine as a nation...

00:49:56.160 to sort of...

00:49:57.200 suppress it...

00:49:58.020 I mean...

00:49:58.160 they didn't really eliminate it...

00:49:59.220 altogether...

00:49:59.820 but they...

00:50:00.740 suppressed the elite...

00:50:01.720 they eliminated the most active part...

00:50:03.380 of the peasantry...

00:50:04.120 and that made it easier...

00:50:05.040 to Sovietize it...

00:50:06.200 so that it became...

00:50:07.460 a willing part of the Soviet Union...

00:50:09.080 and not a problem for Stalin...

00:50:10.480 so now...

00:50:11.000 Stalin is...

00:50:12.280 the...

00:50:12.660 his philosophy...

00:50:14.180 is...

00:50:14.900 you know...

00:50:15.560 you didn't produce enough grain...

00:50:17.520 to pay us...

00:50:19.620 let alone feed yourself...

00:50:21.140 doesn't matter...

00:50:21.740 we're taking the grain...

00:50:22.960 is that the idea...

00:50:24.540 or does he intend...

00:50:25.860 Yes, that was the idea...

00:50:26.580 that was the idea...

00:50:27.440 they took...

00:50:28.720 they confiscated grain...

00:50:30.160 and then...

00:50:30.920 for Ukraine...

00:50:31.640 they made a series of special rules...

00:50:33.460 so that people were not allowed...

00:50:34.760 to leave Ukraine...

00:50:35.980 they blocked the border...

00:50:37.000 of the Republic...

00:50:37.740 Now...

00:50:37.980 was his intent...

00:50:40.020 to kill the population...

00:50:41.520 because he killed...

00:50:42.740 an astronomical number...

00:50:44.280 of people in a year...

00:50:45.960 yes...

00:50:46.300 he did...

00:50:46.840 it's...

00:50:47.280 yes...

00:50:47.480 it's my contention in the book...

00:50:48.860 and I pulled together the evidence...

00:50:50.240 that he intended to kill people in Ukraine...

00:50:52.240 he wanted to suppress the peasantry...

00:50:54.480 and to remove its...

00:50:55.960 most active members...

00:50:57.180 and he intended to kill people...

00:50:58.940 and...

00:50:59.380 how many did he kill?

00:51:01.540 the numbers are...

00:51:03.340 it's approximately 4 million...

00:51:05.700 and then it...

00:51:07.020 you know...

00:51:07.320 then they're...

00:51:08.340 you know...

00:51:08.600 then you...

00:51:09.060 depending on how you count...

00:51:10.060 you can add others...

00:51:10.860 but the...

00:51:11.480 that...

00:51:11.760 that's the approximate number...

00:51:12.760 for 1931 to 1934...

00:51:14.520 okay...

00:51:14.820 so...

00:51:15.340 so...

00:51:15.960 Ann...

00:51:16.340 I mean...

00:51:16.800 I don't want to compare things...

00:51:18.420 because you know...

00:51:19.040 you're comparing monsters...

00:51:20.300 to monsters...

00:51:21.480 but...

00:51:21.900 even Hitler...

00:51:22.680 was not that efficient...

00:51:24.180 of killing 4 million people...

00:51:26.240 in...

00:51:26.440 in one year...

00:51:28.140 um...

00:51:28.840 is it because...

00:51:30.160 the Soviets...

00:51:31.340 survived...

00:51:32.640 and buried this...

00:51:34.080 or...

00:51:34.500 why is it that this is not out?

00:51:37.720 they...

00:51:38.320 they survived...

00:51:39.060 look...

00:51:39.380 if...

00:51:39.520 if Hitler had stayed in power...

00:51:41.160 we might not know about the Holocaust...

00:51:42.780 correct...

00:51:43.060 um...

00:51:43.340 that's how it worked...

00:51:44.460 Stalin stayed in power...

00:51:46.460 his successors...

00:51:47.420 stayed in power...

00:51:48.280 it was...

00:51:49.040 many...

00:51:49.380 many decades...

00:51:50.140 before archives were open...

00:51:51.600 and real history could be done...

00:51:53.200 in Ukraine...

00:51:53.780 or really anywhere else...

00:51:54.400 in the Soviet Union...

00:51:55.660 um...

00:51:56.240 and in...

00:51:57.220 in a world...

00:51:57.860 before the internet...

00:51:59.080 and before cable television...

00:52:00.480 and before...

00:52:01.520 talk radio...

00:52:02.520 um...

00:52:02.740 it was much easier...

00:52:03.640 to keep stories...

00:52:04.960 um...

00:52:05.640 separate...

00:52:06.360 you know...

00:52:06.640 to suppress stories...

00:52:08.340 and prevent them from getting out...

00:52:09.920 special efforts...

00:52:10.960 I should say...

00:52:11.600 were made to prevent...

00:52:12.960 Western journalists...

00:52:14.360 and other journalists...

00:52:15.160 from writing about the famine...

00:52:16.480 um...

00:52:16.720 people who...

00:52:17.540 tried to write about it...

00:52:18.600 were...

00:52:19.320 um...

00:52:19.680 at risk of being expelled...

00:52:21.060 from their jobs...

00:52:21.920 and at that time...

00:52:22.900 all news that came out of Moscow...

00:52:24.500 was censored...

00:52:25.580 um...

00:52:26.040 and there were one or two journalists...

00:52:27.260 who were deliberately collaborating...

00:52:28.380 there were also some journalists...

00:52:29.440 who tried to expose it...

00:52:31.120 but there was a...

00:52:31.920 it was much easier...

00:52:32.820 at that time...

00:52:33.320 to clamp down on the story...

00:52:34.760 so not only to keep it from other...

00:52:36.920 Soviet citizens...

00:52:37.800 but to keep it from the rest of the world...

00:52:39.360 so what was...

00:52:40.500 Durante was probably...

00:52:42.460 one of the more famous people...

00:52:43.880 that...

00:52:44.460 you know...

00:52:44.780 was collaborating...

00:52:46.320 um...

00:52:46.820 and misled America...

00:52:48.720 uh...

00:52:49.120 and said...

00:52:49.480 you know...

00:52:49.680 there's not...

00:52:50.120 none of this is really happening...

00:52:51.380 this is...

00:52:51.700 you're being lied to...

00:52:53.260 yeah...

00:52:53.460 so the two important journalists in the story...

00:52:55.020 one of them is Walter Durante...

00:52:56.220 who was...

00:52:56.760 actually British...

00:52:57.680 but he was at that time...

00:52:58.540 working for the New York Times...

00:53:00.120 um...

00:53:00.500 who wrote a famous piece...

00:53:01.980 saying...

00:53:02.440 there is no famine...

00:53:03.440 Russians are hungry...

00:53:04.220 but not starving...

00:53:05.640 um...

00:53:06.060 it's...

00:53:06.420 it's all been exaggerated...

00:53:07.600 and then there's another journalist...

00:53:09.100 um...

00:53:09.320 a Welsh journalist...

00:53:10.780 um...

00:53:11.080 called Gareth Jones...

00:53:12.080 who did actually do a trip...

00:53:13.700 into Ukraine...

00:53:14.580 he...

00:53:15.180 on sort of somewhat...

00:53:16.300 um...

00:53:16.840 he...

00:53:17.320 he...

00:53:17.400 he said he was going to visit...

00:53:18.620 a tractor factory in Kharkiv...

00:53:20.060 he got off the train...

00:53:21.500 about halfway there...

00:53:22.500 he started walking down the tracks...

00:53:23.720 and actually saw...

00:53:24.540 within Ukraine...

00:53:25.260 at the height of the famine...

00:53:26.160 in the spring of...

00:53:27.440 of 1933...

00:53:29.360 and he wrote about it...

00:53:30.680 um...

00:53:31.400 actually in...

00:53:32.340 in...

00:53:32.640 in the British press...

00:53:34.140 after he left...

00:53:35.160 but...

00:53:35.640 it was a question of prestige...

00:53:36.820 he didn't have the...

00:53:37.960 the clout...

00:53:38.620 the Durante had...

00:53:39.400 and also I think...

00:53:40.100 it's important to remember...

00:53:40.820 that he was telling a story...

00:53:41.840 people didn't want to hear...

00:53:42.840 and...

00:53:43.060 in 1933...

00:53:44.200 people were looking to...

00:53:45.680 people were worried about Hitler...

00:53:46.980 who was just then coming to power...

00:53:48.340 people were looking to do deals...

00:53:49.560 with the Soviet Union...

00:53:50.820 um...

00:53:51.160 people didn't want to hear...

00:53:52.180 that it was a catastrophe...

00:53:53.500 I mean...

00:53:53.680 it's interesting...

00:53:54.280 if you follow...

00:53:55.300 how we think about...

00:53:56.840 Soviet history...

00:53:57.460 and indeed this applies...

00:53:58.580 to other countries too...

00:54:00.160 it's almost always really...

00:54:01.080 a reflection of our own politics...

00:54:02.800 you know...

00:54:02.960 American politics...

00:54:03.780 at that moment...

00:54:04.500 nobody wanted to hear...

00:54:05.280 anything bad about the USSR...

00:54:06.560 so Ann...

00:54:06.980 I want to...

00:54:07.360 I want to stop there...

00:54:08.280 and take a quick break...

00:54:09.000 and then come back...

00:54:09.620 and I...

00:54:09.800 because this has...

00:54:11.020 connections to today...

00:54:12.760 and I think they're things...

00:54:13.640 that people don't want to hear...

00:54:15.220 but...

00:54:15.660 Putin...

00:54:16.960 is...

00:54:17.780 is...

00:54:18.680 is cut from this same cloth...

00:54:20.880 and we'll go there...

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00:55:35.960 back...

00:55:36.920 talking to...

00:55:37.400 Ann Applebaum...

00:55:38.920 uh...

00:55:39.320 her latest book is called...

00:55:41.000 Red Famine...

00:55:42.160 Stalin's War on Ukraine...

00:55:44.080 and I know...

00:55:44.720 Glenn wants to talk about...

00:55:45.580 kind of how the echoes...

00:55:46.280 of history are happening...

00:55:47.160 today...

00:55:47.440 but before we move on...

00:55:48.740 uh...

00:55:49.420 you talk in the book about...

00:55:50.660 some of the real horror stories...

00:55:52.300 from...

00:55:52.620 from this period...

00:55:53.560 people who were imprisoned...

00:55:55.100 and forced to only...

00:55:56.380 drink...

00:55:56.960 snow...

00:55:57.780 that was dripping through...

00:55:58.800 and melting into...

00:55:59.740 you know...

00:56:00.020 their storage area...

00:56:00.940 where they were being kept...

00:56:02.160 we've heard stories...

00:56:03.100 over the years of...

00:56:03.800 of uh...

00:56:04.480 cannibalism...

00:56:05.660 and...

00:56:06.220 you know...

00:56:06.460 children being shot...

00:56:07.660 as they went to try to...

00:56:08.500 grab potatoes to eat...

00:56:10.400 do you...

00:56:10.880 are these stories...

00:56:11.600 largely true...

00:56:12.660 has any of it been exaggerated...

00:56:14.380 what did you find?

00:56:16.600 No...

00:56:17.080 I found a lot of it was true...

00:56:18.480 and the cannibalism stories...

00:56:19.920 are in the archives...

00:56:21.340 in that...

00:56:21.980 you know...

00:56:22.280 local policemen...

00:56:23.160 would be told about the stories...

00:56:24.420 they would investigate them...

00:56:25.480 sometimes they would arrest people...

00:56:27.120 as cannibals...

00:56:28.240 and that's...

00:56:28.960 um...

00:56:29.300 that's...

00:56:29.660 that's part of the public record...

00:56:30.840 I mean...

00:56:31.020 the extraordinary thing is that...

00:56:32.500 they were recording what was happening...

00:56:33.980 they were sending the reports...

00:56:34.980 back to Moscow...

00:56:35.880 and...

00:56:36.600 nothing happened...

00:56:37.580 there was no particular reaction...

00:56:38.820 to the extraordinary phenomenon...

00:56:40.140 of multiple cannibals...

00:56:41.480 suddenly appearing...

00:56:42.760 um...

00:56:43.120 in what had been a very law-abiding...

00:56:44.640 part of the world...

00:56:45.200 up until now...

00:56:46.280 um...

00:56:46.600 there's a huge...

00:56:47.800 um...

00:56:48.480 uh...

00:56:48.780 memoir...

00:56:49.580 and oral history record...

00:56:50.780 as well...

00:56:51.400 uh...

00:56:51.720 I...

00:56:51.940 I should say...

00:56:52.700 and I use quite a lot of that...

00:56:53.700 in the book...

00:56:54.580 um...

00:56:54.980 to give people's descriptions...

00:56:56.500 and...

00:56:56.860 and...

00:56:57.500 you know...

00:56:58.060 how they emotionally remembered...

00:56:59.440 some of these things...

00:57:00.160 but the...

00:57:00.960 really...

00:57:01.440 quite a lot of the worst...

00:57:02.700 stories are...

00:57:04.300 as I said...

00:57:05.000 they're part of the archives...

00:57:05.860 they're part of the police record...

00:57:07.560 um...

00:57:08.060 there's no doubt...

00:57:08.980 that these things happened...

00:57:10.140 I have...

00:57:10.640 I have just about a minute here...

00:57:12.120 um...

00:57:12.420 before another break...

00:57:13.260 but tell me...

00:57:14.640 who was it that was...

00:57:16.080 shooting...

00:57:16.700 were they Ukraine...

00:57:17.820 shooting Ukraine's...

00:57:19.260 how did they...

00:57:20.320 uh...

00:57:20.920 how did you get to be on...

00:57:22.580 Stalin's side?

00:57:24.100 well...

00:57:24.540 there were some...

00:57:25.540 usually what...

00:57:26.680 there were in each village...

00:57:27.820 or each part of this country...

00:57:29.060 there were these activist teams...

00:57:30.660 who would go into the villages...

00:57:32.140 and confiscate the grain...

00:57:33.860 and...

00:57:33.900 and do this...

00:57:34.700 and carry out this repression...

00:57:35.840 and the teams were...

00:57:37.240 very often had Russian members...

00:57:38.840 or people from...

00:57:40.120 the cities...

00:57:40.980 um...

00:57:41.220 but very often they had some local...

00:57:43.240 Ukrainian...

00:57:44.160 um...

00:57:44.740 collaborators...

00:57:45.940 as well...

00:57:46.840 um...

00:57:47.080 and this is very interesting...

00:57:48.000 the question being then...

00:57:48.740 why would people collaborate...

00:57:50.240 and that's actually a story...

00:57:51.540 about how you create hatred...

00:57:53.940 over a long period of time...

00:57:55.280 you know...

00:57:55.540 a kind of...

00:57:55.920 there was a kind of...

00:57:56.440 drumbeat...

00:57:57.320 of hatred...

00:57:58.220 towards the so-called...

00:57:59.080 kulaks...

00:57:59.640 the so-called rich peasants...

00:58:01.020 who are...

00:58:01.720 blocking our revolution...

00:58:03.000 and hiding their grain from us...

00:58:04.860 and people had this propaganda...

00:58:06.380 drummed into their heads...

00:58:07.600 over and over and over again...

00:58:09.220 um...

00:58:09.600 and eventually...

00:58:10.320 they either believed it...

00:58:11.300 or decided it was in their interest...

00:58:12.600 to believe it...

00:58:13.120 or they were hungry...

00:58:14.000 and so they agreed to go along with it...

00:58:15.760 um...

00:58:16.040 and you had some...

00:58:17.160 you know...

00:58:17.480 you did have some local people...

00:58:19.120 collaborating with...

00:58:20.200 with outsiders...

00:58:21.320 in effectively...

00:58:22.300 the murder of their neighbors...

00:58:23.200 if you go into somebody's house...

00:58:24.320 and you take all their food...

00:58:25.700 and you tell them...

00:58:26.200 they're not allowed to leave...

00:58:27.000 then you know they're...

00:58:27.700 they're gonna die...

00:58:28.600 um...

00:58:29.860 you can see...

00:58:31.840 where I'm...

00:58:32.340 gonna take this next...

00:58:33.820 on the...

00:58:34.700 the hatred...

00:58:35.500 that she just talked about...

00:58:36.720 it's happening all over the world...

00:58:38.240 it's happening in Russia...

00:58:39.240 it's happening here in America...

00:58:41.060 the lesson...

00:58:42.060 that we can learn...

00:58:43.060 from Red Famine...

00:58:44.560 when we come back...

00:58:48.560 Glenn Beck...

00:58:50.560 You're listening to...

00:58:56.280 the Glenn Beck Program...

00:58:58.060 What ills America now...

00:59:00.340 is hatred...

00:59:02.380 and hatred and distrust...

00:59:04.440 on both sides...

00:59:06.640 and we're currently...

00:59:08.960 looking into Russia...

00:59:11.240 and you're on...

00:59:12.240 one or the other side...

00:59:13.840 um...

00:59:14.580 you know...

00:59:14.940 Trump was colluding...

00:59:16.240 with Russia...

00:59:17.080 and...

00:59:17.840 you know...

00:59:18.320 he's a bad guy...

00:59:19.340 because of it...

00:59:20.000 or Hillary Clinton...

00:59:21.640 was...

00:59:22.480 you know...

00:59:23.100 turning a blind eye...

00:59:24.480 to Russia...

00:59:25.200 and...

00:59:25.420 and she was working...

00:59:27.040 you know...

00:59:27.560 with the Russians...

00:59:28.600 on that dossier...

00:59:29.640 blah blah blah...

00:59:30.340 we keep going back and forth...

00:59:32.020 and it's...

00:59:32.460 it's dividing us...

00:59:33.880 into...

00:59:35.180 Democrat and Republican...

00:59:36.240 instead of taking a step back...

00:59:37.660 and look...

00:59:37.940 wait a minute...

00:59:38.560 what do both of those stories...

00:59:40.180 have in common...

00:59:41.440 and that's Vladimir Putin...

00:59:42.840 and Russia...

00:59:43.740 and...

00:59:44.660 uh...

00:59:45.180 as we have been talking about...

00:59:46.920 for a while...

00:59:47.920 on this program...

00:59:49.520 Russia's intent...

00:59:51.280 is to cause...

00:59:52.440 chaos...

00:59:53.160 and hatred...

00:59:54.000 between us...

00:59:55.200 and...

00:59:55.920 you know...

00:59:56.580 for any role...

00:59:57.960 that we play...

00:59:58.960 in that...

01:00:00.160 uh...

01:00:00.480 we're going to be held...

01:00:01.540 eternally responsible...

01:00:02.880 because we're going to...

01:00:04.200 tear each other apart...

01:00:05.360 and if you...

01:00:06.000 introduce...

01:00:07.000 hunger...

01:00:07.780 and fear...

01:00:09.060 it's going to happen...

01:00:09.900 a lot faster...

01:00:10.720 than it's happening...

01:00:11.380 right now...

01:00:12.200 um...

01:00:13.000 we're talking to...

01:00:14.220 um...

01:00:14.400 Ann Applebaum...

01:00:15.240 she wrote the...

01:00:15.980 the book...

01:00:16.520 Red Famine...

01:00:17.660 she writes...

01:00:18.300 on page 358...

01:00:19.980 80 years later...

01:00:21.480 the Russian FSB...

01:00:23.080 the institutional successor...

01:00:24.580 of the KGB...

01:00:25.620 continues to demonize...

01:00:26.920 its opponents...

01:00:27.960 using propaganda...

01:00:29.300 and disinformation...

01:00:30.860 the nature...

01:00:31.700 and form of hate speech...

01:00:33.060 in Ukraine...

01:00:33.780 has changed...

01:00:34.660 but the intentions...

01:00:35.580 of those who employ it...

01:00:36.780 have not...

01:00:37.800 in the past...

01:00:38.620 Kremlin uses language...

01:00:39.740 to set people...

01:00:40.780 against one another...

01:00:42.180 to create...

01:00:42.920 first and...

01:00:43.780 second class...

01:00:44.800 citizens...

01:00:45.460 to divide...

01:00:46.580 and distract...

01:00:48.620 in 2014...

01:00:49.740 Russia's state military...

01:00:51.140 described...

01:00:51.720 Russian forces...

01:00:52.640 carrying out...

01:00:53.280 an invasion of Crimea...

01:00:54.600 and in...

01:00:55.100 eastern Ukraine...

01:00:56.740 as...

01:00:57.280 as...

01:00:58.100 separatist...

01:00:58.880 patriots...

01:00:59.900 and those fighting...

01:01:00.840 fascists...

01:01:01.400 and Nazis...

01:01:02.680 an extraordinary...

01:01:03.720 disinformation campaign...

01:01:05.140 complete with...

01:01:06.020 fake stories...

01:01:07.180 that Ukrainian nationalists...

01:01:08.320 have crucified a baby...

01:01:09.520 for example...

01:01:10.460 fake photographs...

01:01:11.660 followed...

01:01:12.540 not only...

01:01:13.440 inside Russia...

01:01:14.360 but on Russian...

01:01:15.300 state-sponsored media...

01:01:16.780 around the world...

01:01:17.920 this is happening...

01:01:20.200 and it's not happening...

01:01:21.080 just in Ukraine...

01:01:22.120 it's happening to us...

01:01:23.500 as well...

01:01:24.280 and we have got to...

01:01:25.440 separate ourselves...

01:01:26.560 from it...

01:01:27.740 Ann Applebaum...

01:01:28.560 joins us again...

01:01:29.620 Red Famine...

01:01:30.620 what do we learn...

01:01:31.700 now...

01:01:32.420 Ann...

01:01:33.060 from this...

01:01:33.420 Well...

01:01:35.540 I think you...

01:01:36.360 pointed to...

01:01:37.440 the main link...

01:01:38.640 between the past...

01:01:39.380 and the present...

01:01:40.040 the same kinds of...

01:01:42.140 propaganda campaigns...

01:01:43.540 and the same kinds...

01:01:44.260 of hate campaigns...

01:01:45.300 that the Soviet state...

01:01:46.860 ran in the past...

01:01:48.140 are now being run...

01:01:49.320 by the Russian government...

01:01:50.460 in the present...

01:01:51.700 I...

01:01:52.340 if I...

01:01:52.800 if I had some...

01:01:53.780 early warning of this...

01:01:55.040 or some earlier understanding...

01:01:56.480 than...

01:01:57.060 I suppose many Americans...

01:01:58.200 it's because I live...

01:01:58.940 part of the time in Poland...

01:02:00.000 I travel a lot...

01:02:00.800 in the Baltic states...

01:02:02.200 and I saw this beginning...

01:02:03.540 several years ago...

01:02:04.900 the attempt to...

01:02:07.140 the backing...

01:02:08.300 of extremist political parties...

01:02:09.760 mostly far-right parties...

01:02:11.100 in the region...

01:02:12.260 the use of...

01:02:14.420 you know...

01:02:15.400 using the tools...

01:02:16.920 provided by social media...

01:02:18.440 to target...

01:02:19.480 particular kinds of audiences...

01:02:21.520 the creation of...

01:02:22.820 fake stories...

01:02:23.420 and so on...

01:02:23.740 I mean...

01:02:23.860 that's actually been...

01:02:25.020 in the Russian...

01:02:26.200 intelligence repertoire...

01:02:27.840 for some time now...

01:02:29.000 the fact that we've only...

01:02:30.080 just noticed in the United States...

01:02:31.320 doesn't mean it hasn't been...

01:02:32.160 around for a while...

01:02:33.100 people don't understand...

01:02:34.080 I know you run a...

01:02:35.280 a program arena...

01:02:37.180 on disinformation...

01:02:38.260 and the 21st century propaganda...

01:02:40.520 people don't understand...

01:02:43.260 that this is...

01:02:45.400 it's...

01:02:45.840 you know...

01:02:46.220 it sounds like...

01:02:46.880 old school Soviet stuff...

01:02:48.520 that millennials...

01:02:49.600 are not aware of at all...

01:02:51.200 and people don't understand...

01:02:53.480 we're being manipulated...

01:02:55.420 and...

01:02:55.660 not just by Russia...

01:02:56.960 but...

01:02:57.300 we're manipulating each other...

01:02:59.040 and it's happening...

01:03:00.020 and no one...

01:03:01.740 thinks...

01:03:02.400 their side is part of it...

01:03:04.300 and all sides are part of it...

01:03:06.240 yes...

01:03:08.560 I mean...

01:03:08.920 I think some sides...

01:03:10.020 have made...

01:03:11.380 have set out to be...

01:03:12.780 more manipulative than others...

01:03:13.960 I mean...

01:03:14.240 I would say...

01:03:15.080 you began...

01:03:15.700 a few minutes ago...

01:03:16.440 by talking about...

01:03:17.740 mistakes made by...

01:03:19.580 mainstream broadcast media...

01:03:21.120 I mean...

01:03:21.780 at least those media...

01:03:23.280 have a procedure...

01:03:24.200 by which they admit mistakes...

01:03:25.660 yes...

01:03:25.940 and they say those were mistakes...

01:03:27.360 yes...

01:03:27.800 when President Trump...

01:03:29.320 tweets things that are lies...

01:03:30.520 he doesn't take them back...

01:03:32.100 when he says things...

01:03:32.980 that are dishonest...

01:03:33.580 he doesn't...

01:03:34.060 so that's it...

01:03:34.620 there is...

01:03:35.140 there are some...

01:03:36.220 differences here...

01:03:37.420 but yes...

01:03:38.220 I think the...

01:03:39.320 the system whereby...

01:03:41.320 both foreign actors...

01:03:42.960 and domestic actors...

01:03:43.860 are able to...

01:03:45.200 insert false stories...

01:03:47.020 into the...

01:03:47.740 you know...

01:03:48.020 into people's Facebook feeds...

01:03:49.480 into the people's...

01:03:50.800 what people see on the...

01:03:52.300 on...

01:03:52.720 you know...

01:03:53.560 on the internet now...

01:03:54.660 is certainly...

01:03:55.300 it makes every...

01:03:55.960 all these things...

01:03:56.500 are much faster and easier...

01:03:58.340 to do than they were in the past...

01:03:59.820 I mean...

01:04:00.000 so these...

01:04:00.720 Soviet disinformation campaigns...

01:04:02.180 used to take many years...

01:04:03.240 you know...

01:04:03.440 they would plan them...

01:04:04.400 and they would try and...

01:04:05.480 plant things in newspapers...

01:04:06.780 and so on...

01:04:07.120 now it can be done...

01:04:07.760 in a matter of minutes...

01:04:08.600 it's very very cheap...

01:04:10.060 it's very easy...

01:04:11.060 and as...

01:04:11.700 you know...

01:04:11.940 as you know...

01:04:12.760 perfectly well...

01:04:13.640 it's not just...

01:04:14.920 the Russians who do it...

01:04:16.800 anybody can do it...

01:04:17.980 who has...

01:04:18.960 a little bit of money...

01:04:20.040 a little bit of spare time...

01:04:21.420 so...

01:04:21.900 when Romney was running...

01:04:24.060 conservatives like me...

01:04:25.520 I...

01:04:25.720 I could not...

01:04:26.760 I couldn't get...

01:04:27.700 um...

01:04:28.140 the left to listen and say...

01:04:29.480 no...

01:04:29.620 no...

01:04:29.900 Putin's a bad guy...

01:04:31.700 and Russia is refighting...

01:04:33.700 the...

01:04:34.200 uh...

01:04:34.480 Cold War...

01:04:35.440 now...

01:04:36.140 that...

01:04:36.740 Trump is in office...

01:04:37.860 you can't convince the...

01:04:39.780 the conservatives...

01:04:41.160 that Russia is bad...

01:04:43.160 how do we...

01:04:44.520 how do we...

01:04:45.860 uh...

01:04:46.540 lock ourselves to...

01:04:48.140 some principles here...

01:04:49.440 on Putin...

01:04:50.560 and get the word out...

01:04:52.200 that...

01:04:52.800 he is...

01:04:53.860 a very dangerous character...

01:04:55.900 that is...

01:04:57.020 you know...

01:04:57.420 trying to destabilize...

01:04:59.000 the entire West...

01:05:00.000 and...

01:05:00.300 and correct the great mistake...

01:05:02.360 that he saw...

01:05:03.080 as the...

01:05:03.580 the end of the old Soviet Empire...

01:05:06.460 yes...

01:05:07.000 all you have to do...

01:05:07.640 is listen to him...

01:05:08.300 that's what he says...

01:05:09.320 and that's what he says...

01:05:10.180 he's doing...

01:05:10.660 that's what his officials...

01:05:11.500 say they're doing...

01:05:12.540 um...

01:05:12.840 they...

01:05:13.240 they openly want...

01:05:14.340 to unpick...

01:05:15.160 international institutions...

01:05:16.360 they're opposed...

01:05:16.920 to the European Union...

01:05:17.700 they're opposed to NATO...

01:05:19.160 um...

01:05:19.600 they're opposed to...

01:05:20.980 the American...

01:05:21.780 the Transatlantic Alliance...

01:05:22.880 they don't want...

01:05:23.420 the United States...

01:05:24.080 in Europe...

01:05:24.460 because of course...

01:05:25.000 if American troops...

01:05:25.780 were gone from Europe...

01:05:26.540 that would be...

01:05:27.040 give them that much more...

01:05:28.300 leeway...

01:05:29.020 over European countries...

01:05:30.220 who they could then dominate...

01:05:31.580 I mean...

01:05:31.800 I suppose it was hard...

01:05:32.600 to take them seriously...

01:05:33.460 in the past...

01:05:34.060 because...

01:05:34.900 economically...

01:05:35.700 they're not...

01:05:36.340 a great power anymore...

01:05:37.500 and they...

01:05:38.060 even seem to be shrinking...

01:05:39.700 um...

01:05:40.100 but what we...

01:05:40.860 I think...

01:05:41.160 didn't...

01:05:42.060 um...

01:05:42.580 fully reckon with...

01:05:43.540 is the...

01:05:44.200 the cheapness...

01:05:45.200 you know...

01:05:45.440 the...

01:05:45.800 how inexpensive...

01:05:46.980 it is...

01:05:47.760 nowadays...

01:05:48.440 to do...

01:05:49.440 um...

01:05:49.920 to do propaganda...

01:05:51.160 and...

01:05:51.540 and political campaigns...

01:05:52.620 and with...

01:05:53.200 with very...

01:05:54.100 little money...

01:05:55.080 they can support...

01:05:56.000 far-right...

01:05:56.600 extremist groups...

01:05:57.780 um...

01:05:58.340 they've gotten interested...

01:05:59.200 now in gun clubs...

01:06:00.360 I'd be interested to know...

01:06:01.260 what their relationship is...

01:06:02.120 with the NRA...

01:06:02.780 in the United States...

01:06:04.060 um...

01:06:04.460 and they are looking for...

01:06:05.760 to support...

01:06:06.520 extremist...

01:06:07.440 anti-system...

01:06:08.440 anti-systemic...

01:06:09.800 um...

01:06:10.080 and fascist groups...

01:06:11.240 um...

01:06:11.640 all over Europe...

01:06:12.520 and I...

01:06:13.080 and I expect they're doing it in the U.S. too...

01:06:14.900 so...

01:06:15.400 paying attention to what they say...

01:06:17.320 and what they do...

01:06:18.480 um...

01:06:19.420 you know...

01:06:19.820 should be enough to convince any American...

01:06:21.900 of whatever their politics...

01:06:23.740 um...

01:06:24.100 that this is...

01:06:24.700 this is something we need to be aware of...

01:06:26.140 we need to be think of...

01:06:27.180 we need to be thinking about...

01:06:28.460 these...

01:06:28.660 uh...

01:06:28.780 this is an anti-democratic...

01:06:31.160 um...

01:06:32.160 in an anti-American...

01:06:33.580 um...

01:06:34.160 regime...

01:06:34.740 the...

01:06:35.440 um...

01:06:36.200 the main guy here...

01:06:37.460 for the alt-right...

01:06:38.360 I'm trying to remember his name...

01:06:39.340 Spencer...

01:06:40.160 uh...

01:06:40.440 yeah...

01:06:40.660 Richard Spencer...

01:06:41.840 his wife is the...

01:06:43.460 America...

01:06:44.080 is the...

01:06:44.800 English translator...

01:06:46.080 for Alexander Dugan...

01:06:47.700 who...

01:06:48.000 if you think Putin is scary...

01:06:49.220 Dugan is even more frightening...

01:06:50.740 um...

01:06:51.740 Dugan is the ideologist...

01:06:53.500 Yes...

01:06:53.880 um...

01:06:54.060 who...

01:06:54.480 who...

01:06:54.840 who has created...

01:06:56.080 also a completely tendentious...

01:06:58.400 vision of Russia...

01:06:59.660 as some kind of conservative leader...

01:07:01.520 or some kind of...

01:07:02.340 you know...

01:07:02.520 in favor of...

01:07:03.600 family values...

01:07:04.360 I mean...

01:07:04.540 anybody who knows Russia well...

01:07:06.400 um...

01:07:06.860 and has been there...

01:07:07.900 and has anything...

01:07:08.820 knows anything particularly about the Russian elite...

01:07:10.420 knows that this is an entirely phony picture...

01:07:12.900 of what they actually believe...

01:07:14.480 and how they live their lives...

01:07:15.800 um...

01:07:16.480 but he has seen what he perceives to be a weakness...

01:07:19.140 and...

01:07:19.940 um...

01:07:20.260 he encourages this idea that...

01:07:21.660 Russia can lead some kind of...

01:07:23.480 anti-modern...

01:07:25.040 um...

01:07:25.400 anti-democratic...

01:07:26.680 conservative revival...

01:07:27.680 So, Anne...

01:07:29.140 how do we accomplish one thing?

01:07:31.920 You said earlier that...

01:07:33.460 you know...

01:07:33.900 people didn't want to look at this...

01:07:35.780 that was happening in the Ukraine back then...

01:07:37.860 we haven't changed as people...

01:07:39.620 in fact, I think...

01:07:40.660 it's...

01:07:41.420 it's becoming easier and easier...

01:07:43.440 for us just to look at the news...

01:07:45.520 that we want to look at...

01:07:47.380 and in fact...

01:07:48.480 we have things like Facebook...

01:07:50.440 that through algorithms...

01:07:51.640 is helping us...

01:07:53.100 disconnect...

01:07:54.520 from anything that disagrees with us...

01:07:57.660 how do we...

01:07:58.240 oh no...

01:07:58.820 how do we break this?

01:08:00.720 Well, one...

01:08:01.600 so I think it's first of all...

01:08:02.860 important for people to understand...

01:08:04.340 that they now live in echo chambers...

01:08:06.340 they...

01:08:07.140 you know...

01:08:07.640 if you get your news from Facebook...

01:08:09.200 then you're seeing things...

01:08:10.020 that were recommended to you...

01:08:11.080 because...

01:08:11.660 the algorithm thinks you will like it...

01:08:13.460 or even just because your friends...

01:08:14.740 think that you'll like it...

01:08:16.020 um...

01:08:16.340 and so you should be...

01:08:17.280 everybody has it...

01:08:18.100 I think it's a kind of civic duty...

01:08:19.520 to pay attention to what the other side...

01:08:21.020 are saying...

01:08:21.440 even if you disagree with it...

01:08:22.360 um...

01:08:23.280 it's a civic duty to...

01:08:25.260 um...

01:08:25.620 use critical thinking...

01:08:26.860 and ask yourself...

01:08:27.620 where did this story come from...

01:08:28.820 how likely is it to be true...

01:08:30.080 does it come from a news organization...

01:08:31.600 that fact checks...

01:08:32.440 and that admits mistakes...

01:08:33.960 when it makes them...

01:08:35.160 um...

01:08:35.520 or does it come from...

01:08:36.340 some kind of propaganda outlet...

01:08:37.580 I mean...

01:08:37.740 I think we're all...

01:08:38.940 now...

01:08:39.580 um...

01:08:40.020 as never before...

01:08:41.780 um...

01:08:42.100 responsible for...

01:08:43.320 understanding the political world...

01:08:44.880 that we live in...

01:08:45.960 um...

01:08:46.240 and trying to make sense of it...

01:08:47.160 and also by the way...

01:08:47.860 teaching children about it...

01:08:49.040 um...

01:08:49.360 I think younger people in particular...

01:08:51.580 um...

01:08:52.340 need to learn...

01:08:53.500 how to read the internet...

01:08:55.220 and how to know...

01:08:55.960 what it is that they're seeing...

01:08:57.200 that's true...

01:08:57.680 what's not...

01:08:58.520 um...

01:08:58.760 it would help a lot...

01:08:59.500 I guess people would read history as well...

01:09:01.160 um...

01:09:01.520 because...

01:09:02.280 some of this is new...

01:09:03.240 because the technology is new...

01:09:04.480 and some of it's very old...

01:09:05.480 as you can...

01:09:06.420 you would discover...

01:09:07.240 if you read my book...

01:09:08.120 yeah...

01:09:08.340 the plans are exactly the same...

01:09:10.080 the technology is just making it go faster...

01:09:12.200 and easier...

01:09:13.120 for those who wish to enact...

01:09:14.340 the technology makes...

01:09:15.280 the technology makes...

01:09:16.400 the technology makes...

01:09:16.440 the technically...

01:09:17.160 the...

01:09:17.440 the phenomenon of echo chambers...

01:09:19.940 um...

01:09:20.280 has also changed things a little bit...

01:09:21.960 it means that it's much harder for people to...

01:09:24.740 um...

01:09:25.460 harder for people to feel connected...

01:09:27.400 to those who are somehow on the other side...

01:09:29.400 unless it's just to denounce them...

01:09:31.680 but...

01:09:32.180 um...

01:09:32.420 the internet enables new kinds of identity...

01:09:35.240 you know...

01:09:35.380 you now identify with a group who you recognize online...

01:09:39.120 um...

01:09:39.540 or with...

01:09:40.120 or...

01:09:40.460 it doesn't have to be only online...

01:09:42.060 but who you see on TV...

01:09:43.320 and then...

01:09:44.140 and that gives you a sense of personal identity...

01:09:46.100 as well as just giving you some information...

01:09:48.040 what sticks out is the way Stalin used...

01:09:50.420 you know...

01:09:50.820 traitor...

01:09:51.880 um...

01:09:52.540 and...

01:09:53.040 we're hearing that...

01:09:53.900 enemies of the people...

01:09:54.740 yeah...

01:09:55.100 we're hearing that now...

01:09:56.420 on both sides of the aisle...

01:09:58.020 if you...

01:09:58.460 if you don't tow...

01:10:00.160 your party's line...

01:10:01.660 if you have a party...

01:10:03.300 um...

01:10:03.840 if you don't tow your party's line...

01:10:05.720 you can be called traitor...

01:10:07.300 and enemy...

01:10:08.040 and everything else...

01:10:09.100 I mean...

01:10:10.180 that has a long history...

01:10:12.380 the fact that the American president...

01:10:14.260 used the expression...

01:10:15.380 enemies of the people...

01:10:16.460 to describe journalists...

01:10:17.760 is a kind of breakthrough...

01:10:18.900 that is a Stalinist...

01:10:20.280 phrase...

01:10:21.060 um...

01:10:21.280 it gave anybody who knows any history...

01:10:23.140 a real...

01:10:24.020 uh...

01:10:24.380 feeling of chill...

01:10:25.740 um...

01:10:26.220 and you know...

01:10:26.820 and...

01:10:27.040 and fear...

01:10:27.960 because that's...

01:10:28.600 did mean...

01:10:29.140 that's the kind of language...

01:10:30.220 to demon...

01:10:30.820 that was used to demonize people...

01:10:32.860 and was eventually used to kill them in the past...

01:10:35.380 Ann Applebaum...

01:10:36.080 thank you so much...

01:10:37.340 thank you...

01:10:38.080 the book is called...

01:10:44.280 Red Famine...

01:10:44.980 Stalin's War on Ukraine...

01:10:46.940 uh...

01:10:47.500 by Ann Applebaum...

01:10:48.800 you should...

01:10:49.400 it's definitely worth a read...

01:10:50.700 I mean...

01:10:50.840 we did a documentary on this...

01:10:52.260 back when we were at Fox...

01:10:53.420 that...

01:10:53.680 that covered this as part of the documentary...

01:10:55.960 and just...

01:10:56.900 attempting to find pictures...

01:10:58.580 to support...

01:10:59.500 what the historians were saying about it...

01:11:01.760 was incredibly difficult...

01:11:03.220 the amount of research...

01:11:04.020 that goes into this book...

01:11:04.820 is really impressive...

01:11:05.920 and she found...

01:11:06.660 I mean...

01:11:06.860 amazing photos...

01:11:07.940 and real life accounts...

01:11:10.200 what happened at that time...

01:11:11.340 and it's really in-depth...

01:11:12.860 and it's one of the most important stories...

01:11:14.140 that I think...

01:11:15.140 the...

01:11:15.640 a person who...

01:11:16.640 thinks of themselves as well-informed...

01:11:17.940 doesn't know...

01:11:19.160 uh...

01:11:19.360 this is a...

01:11:20.040 this is a...

01:11:20.660 it's a big piece of history...

01:11:22.140 really big...

01:11:22.720 big piece of history...

01:11:23.620 we all know what the Nazis did...

01:11:25.760 so many of us don't know...

01:11:27.260 what the Russians did...

01:11:28.860 and this is just a...

01:11:30.720 an absolute horror show...

01:11:32.460 and as she says...

01:11:33.900 in the last part of her book...

01:11:35.100 it's repeating itself...

01:11:37.460 Dugan...

01:11:38.900 Putin...

01:11:39.580 they are doing it again...

01:11:41.520 and we must...

01:11:43.520 learn for history...

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01:11:45.580 or we will repeat it...

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01:13:12.300 Glenn Beck...

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01:13:23.300 so I think that was a first...

01:13:26.180 you heard it on the program...

01:13:27.980 that Glenn...

01:13:28.800 randomly out of nowhere...

01:13:30.420 brings up Alexander Dugan...

01:13:31.960 and someone knows who it is...

01:13:33.180 which I don't think that's ever...

01:13:34.800 and she was right too...

01:13:35.680 and she was right...

01:13:36.480 that's...

01:13:36.700 I mean we've had presidential candidates on...

01:13:38.580 that you've been like...

01:13:39.180 tell me about Alexander Dugan...

01:13:40.800 who would know...

01:13:43.920 unless you...

01:13:44.160 if you want to lead the free world...

01:13:47.020 you should know who Alexander Dugan is...

01:13:48.400 you probably should...

01:13:49.080 and that was interesting...

01:13:49.900 because one of the things she brought up was...

01:13:51.800 Putin's outreach to...

01:13:54.120 organizations in the United States...

01:13:56.080 and I think we think...

01:13:56.980 okay Vladimir Putin's a bad guy...

01:13:58.440 he's...

01:13:58.740 his outreach is going...

01:13:59.940 he's gonna...

01:14:00.920 play with crazy organizations...

01:14:02.360 no he's...

01:14:02.800 extremist organizations...

01:14:04.080 that's actually the reverse of what he's doing...

01:14:05.940 yes...

01:14:06.300 he's...

01:14:06.760 I mean he's probably doing that too...

01:14:08.160 he is...

01:14:08.800 he's also trying to reach into good churches...

01:14:11.920 he's getting people who are...

01:14:13.600 connected to real conservative movements...

01:14:16.400 and I think probably on both sides of the aisle...

01:14:18.520 she's...

01:14:18.860 you know she said...

01:14:19.400 I'd like to know what his...

01:14:20.560 what his...

01:14:21.560 influence is on the NRA...

01:14:23.920 I can guarantee you...

01:14:26.080 nothing known to the NRA...

01:14:28.700 but people don't know who Alexander Dugan is...

01:14:31.600 we're not taking Russia seriously...

01:14:33.780 and so we're not looking for these things...

01:14:35.920 and they make good cases...

01:14:38.340 I can't remember what the Council of Churches is...

01:14:41.140 but they're coming to American churches...

01:14:44.020 they may be involved with your church...

01:14:46.520 because they're coming to churches...

01:14:48.320 and they're saying...

01:14:49.640 hey...

01:14:49.980 we're standing for traditional values...

01:14:52.300 yada yada...

01:14:53.040 and we're gonna help you fight this...

01:14:55.220 well...

01:14:55.720 if you peel back the veneer...

01:14:58.880 it's Dugan...

01:14:59.920 and it's Putin...

01:15:00.520 and all they're doing...

01:15:02.940 is trying to ratchet things up...

01:15:05.160 and infiltrate...

01:15:06.300 and get into our organizations...

01:15:08.740 they're very dangerous...

01:15:10.080 but until we can stop having the conversation...

01:15:12.660 about Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton...

01:15:14.860 and we can actually start to focus on...

01:15:17.900 no...

01:15:18.120 this is about Russia...

01:15:19.420 this is about dividing the American people...

01:15:21.940 it may be about Trump and Hillary too...

01:15:25.520 but it is primarily about Russia...

01:15:29.320 and what they are doing...

01:15:31.140 to not only us...

01:15:32.300 but the entire world...

01:15:34.460 until you know...

01:15:35.380 I mean...

01:15:35.620 she knew who Alexander Dugan was...

01:15:37.420 if you don't know who he was...

01:15:38.880 and you listen to Alex Jones...

01:15:40.900 he has Dugan on all the time...

01:15:42.900 sounds like a great guy...

01:15:44.620 you have no idea that Alex Jones is an organ...

01:15:47.900 for Putin...

01:15:49.200 and the Russians...

01:15:50.200 Glenn Beck

01:15:56.440 Love

01:16:02.020 Courage

01:16:03.620 Truth

01:16:04.960 Glenn Beck

01:16:06.520 Being president is impossible...

01:16:08.520 never-ending stream of lose-lose situations...

01:16:11.740 for instance...

01:16:12.840 President Trump visiting the opening...

01:16:14.500 of the new Civil Rights Museum...

01:16:15.900 in Jackson, Mississippi this weekend...

01:16:18.400 for Trump...

01:16:19.100 if you didn't go...

01:16:20.180 oh my gosh...

01:16:21.400 he didn't...

01:16:22.020 if he did go...

01:16:23.120 can you believe he...

01:16:24.840 right?

01:16:25.700 Imagine the outcry...

01:16:26.820 if he had declined the invitation...

01:16:27.960 to speak at the museum's opening...

01:16:29.960 yet...

01:16:31.080 he didn't speak at the opening...

01:16:32.960 but he got nothing but criticism...

01:16:35.220 and protests...

01:16:36.700 for going...

01:16:38.340 President Trump attended the museum's opening...

01:16:40.880 at the invitation...

01:16:41.860 of the Republican Governor Phil Bryant...

01:16:44.040 he took a tour of the museum...

01:16:46.120 he gave a short speech...

01:16:47.840 it was a normal presidential thing...

01:16:50.020 to do...

01:16:50.640 speaking in general...

01:16:52.020 promoting better race relations...

01:16:53.860 you know...

01:16:54.440 that's not exactly Trump's strength...

01:16:57.160 you know...

01:16:57.960 a missed opportunity...

01:16:58.800 for him to try to do more...

01:17:00.120 and heal the division...

01:17:01.240 and change the perception...

01:17:02.860 that he's a racist...

01:17:03.660 but you know...

01:17:04.240 he could have done better...

01:17:05.240 but he didn't...

01:17:05.800 and that's fine...

01:17:06.440 I mean that's...

01:17:07.080 he made the attempt...

01:17:08.580 he was there...

01:17:09.800 at the same time...

01:17:12.480 Georgia Representative John Lewis...

01:17:14.760 he could have done more...

01:17:16.180 he should have done more...

01:17:18.140 and he didn't...

01:17:20.180 as soon as he heard...

01:17:21.240 the president might attend...

01:17:22.220 the museum's opening...

01:17:23.320 he announced that he would boycott it...

01:17:25.800 the mayor of Jackson, Mississippi...

01:17:27.400 also boycotted...

01:17:29.140 now how does this help...

01:17:30.460 heal anything...

01:17:32.060 why would you squander...

01:17:33.520 an opportunity...

01:17:34.640 to improve relations...

01:17:35.980 with a president...

01:17:36.700 you consider to be set...

01:17:38.080 against them...

01:17:39.440 for the sake of the...

01:17:40.300 whiter community...

01:17:41.940 why not set aside...

01:17:44.080 this...

01:17:45.160 bickering...

01:17:46.200 for just a few minutes...

01:17:47.440 and at least...

01:17:48.060 pretend...

01:17:48.940 to get along...

01:17:50.520 for America's sake...

01:17:52.840 it is amazing...

01:17:54.280 that civil rights icons...

01:17:55.480 like John Lewis...

01:17:56.720 have seemed to have forgotten...

01:17:57.760 the larger lessons...

01:17:59.060 of love and forgiveness...

01:18:00.880 that Martin Luther King Jr.

01:18:02.060 taught...

01:18:03.060 if you can't set aside...

01:18:05.560 for the opening...

01:18:06.300 of a civil rights museum...

01:18:08.320 your differences...

01:18:09.740 just before Christmas...

01:18:11.900 you're never going to be able...

01:18:12.880 to set aside politics...

01:18:14.140 you just never will...

01:18:15.880 we really need...

01:18:17.720 to get over ourselves...

01:18:19.780 boy do we need humility...

01:18:21.920 we need to lose some pride...

01:18:24.060 we need to reach out...

01:18:25.460 to our neighbors...

01:18:26.960 we need to yes...

01:18:27.920 reach out to even those...

01:18:28.940 who didn't vote the same way...

01:18:31.060 we have an opportunity...

01:18:32.780 this Christmas...

01:18:34.060 to actually come together...

01:18:35.760 and say...

01:18:36.840 let's not talk politics...

01:18:38.440 please...

01:18:39.240 let's just...

01:18:40.360 can...

01:18:40.720 it's making us all crazy...

01:18:43.060 let's just come together...

01:18:44.320 because there's...

01:18:45.380 can we just sit here...

01:18:46.440 and for a little while...

01:18:47.560 while we're eating our turkey...

01:18:48.720 and our Christmas meal...

01:18:50.900 or...

01:18:51.900 goose...

01:18:52.620 or roast beef...

01:18:53.280 or whatever it is you have...

01:18:54.320 or in my case...

01:18:55.020 with my wife...

01:18:55.580 lasagna...

01:18:56.280 which is weird...

01:18:57.060 can we just not...

01:19:00.060 talk about the things...

01:19:01.120 we have in common...

01:19:03.060 maybe it's just wishful thinking...

01:19:06.060 but Christmas is a time...

01:19:08.400 for miracles...

01:19:09.480 and boy...

01:19:10.780 do we need a miracle...

01:19:12.060 it's Monday...

01:19:19.820 December 11th...

01:19:20.980 this is the Glenn Beck Program...

01:19:23.060 so early this morning...

01:19:25.520 there was a terrorist strike...

01:19:28.060 in Manhattan...

01:19:29.180 for those who watch ISIS...

01:19:31.780 this was not a surprise...

01:19:33.620 they...

01:19:34.060 a couple of weeks ago...

01:19:34.980 put out a...

01:19:35.700 a meme...

01:19:36.640 that had Santa...

01:19:38.060 standing next to a box of dynamite...

01:19:40.440 in Times Square...

01:19:41.440 and it says...

01:19:42.020 we'll be visiting New York...

01:19:43.820 very soon...

01:19:45.440 and so today...

01:19:47.360 there was a failed attempt...

01:19:48.840 thank God...

01:19:49.480 because it could have been...

01:19:50.340 very bad...

01:19:51.520 right on 42nd...

01:19:53.400 and 8th...

01:19:54.440 which is...

01:19:55.280 the...

01:19:55.780 Port Authority...

01:19:56.460 bus station...

01:19:57.640 and the...

01:19:58.440 subway terminal...

01:19:59.560 that kind of brings you...

01:20:00.500 right into...

01:20:01.260 Times Square...

01:20:02.420 Buck Sexton...

01:20:03.240 is in New York...

01:20:04.440 he does his own...

01:20:05.860 national radio program...

01:20:07.020 it can be heard here...

01:20:07.900 on the Blaze Radio Network...

01:20:09.440 welcome Buck...

01:20:10.080 how are you...

01:20:11.200 I'm good...

01:20:11.780 Glenn...

01:20:12.080 great to talk to you...

01:20:13.160 so...

01:20:13.680 tell me what's happening...

01:20:14.600 in New York...

01:20:15.720 oh...

01:20:16.100 I just have to tell everybody...

01:20:17.360 if you do hear sirens...

01:20:18.620 in the background...

01:20:19.440 those...

01:20:19.820 I believe...

01:20:20.200 are actually...

01:20:20.880 likely on the way...

01:20:22.000 because I'm...

01:20:22.520 on the way to...

01:20:23.460 the site...

01:20:24.300 still...

01:20:24.780 I'm right nearby...

01:20:26.460 so there's still...

01:20:27.420 a lot of activity...

01:20:28.240 a lot of police activity...

01:20:29.200 I'm only a few blocks away...

01:20:30.800 from where...

01:20:31.640 this happened this morning...

01:20:33.300 I think...

01:20:34.860 this is one of those...

01:20:36.080 weird instances...

01:20:36.960 Glenn...

01:20:37.200 where we have to say...

01:20:38.040 wow...

01:20:38.400 we got lucky...

01:20:39.560 you have someone here...

01:20:41.080 who...

01:20:41.880 most likely...

01:20:43.260 I mean...

01:20:43.520 I would...

01:20:44.180 I would bet money...

01:20:45.180 although we don't know quite yet...

01:20:47.280 that he has ISIS paraphernalia at home...

01:20:51.080 that he probably was spending time...

01:20:52.680 on various jihadist chat forums...

01:20:55.860 and...

01:20:56.140 and he might have even...

01:20:57.380 either said...

01:20:58.200 he did this for the Islamic State...

01:20:59.760 or...

01:21:00.400 left a note...

01:21:01.220 which are things now...

01:21:02.200 that ISIS inspired individuals do...

01:21:04.200 but he built...

01:21:05.200 he built a pipe bomb...

01:21:07.100 and tried to use it as a...

01:21:08.880 he tried to take that IED...

01:21:10.600 and turn it into an S-vest...

01:21:11.980 or a suicide vest...

01:21:13.480 and fortunately...

01:21:14.600 he wasn't a skilled bomb maker...

01:21:17.520 and most of the blast...

01:21:18.900 it seems...

01:21:19.380 I've...

01:21:19.860 there's a video...

01:21:20.660 that people can watch on the...

01:21:22.060 I know it's on NewYorkPost.com now...

01:21:23.800 it's probably up on The Blaze too...

01:21:25.900 there's a video you can see...

01:21:27.220 of the actual incident...

01:21:28.400 and...

01:21:29.080 I think a lot of the bomb's force...

01:21:30.900 went into this guy...

01:21:32.360 went into the suspect now...

01:21:33.540 who's in custody...

01:21:34.600 and we're just really lucky that...

01:21:36.300 Glenn...

01:21:36.900 I don't know how he's thinking...

01:21:38.720 he's going to fight for the Islamic State...

01:21:40.440 and chooses to make a bomb...

01:21:41.860 instead of...

01:21:42.520 go with a vehicle attack...

01:21:43.720 a vehicle attack is...

01:21:44.940 so much more likely to kill people...

01:21:46.940 and call...

01:21:47.480 so...

01:21:48.080 the terrorist incompetence...

01:21:49.640 in this case...

01:21:50.580 was our greatest ally...

01:21:52.400 so...

01:21:52.880 I don't...

01:21:53.380 I can't imagine how the force of the blast...

01:21:55.560 went into him...

01:21:56.860 and yet he's still alive...

01:21:58.400 I think it was a...

01:21:59.900 probably a partial detonation...

01:22:02.320 it reminds me very much...

01:22:04.860 of what happened...

01:22:05.860 with the...

01:22:06.380 with the underwear bomber...

01:22:07.740 if you recall...

01:22:08.500 Farouk Abdul-Mutalib...

01:22:10.140 and...

01:22:10.660 he really burned himself...

01:22:12.440 he didn't...

01:22:13.440 there was no real detonation...

01:22:15.320 of that explosion...

01:22:16.200 because yeah...

01:22:16.600 Glenn...

01:22:16.800 absolutely...

01:22:17.380 I mean a pipe bomb...

01:22:18.600 the shrapnel from that...

01:22:19.800 even with a kind of...

01:22:20.900 low order detonation...

01:22:22.440 would...

01:22:22.920 would tear him up...

01:22:23.780 and he'd be dead very quickly...

01:22:25.300 you would assume...

01:22:26.300 but it might have been...

01:22:27.700 more of a burn...

01:22:28.780 than a bomb...

01:22:29.480 if you know what I mean...

01:22:30.140 it might have...

01:22:30.960 ignited...

01:22:32.240 but not actually exploded...

01:22:34.160 and that...

01:22:35.160 the other injuries...

01:22:36.420 are minimal...

01:22:37.660 as has been reported...

01:22:38.500 which I don't know...

01:22:39.120 if they're from people...

01:22:40.240 look...

01:22:40.500 it could be from people...

01:22:41.140 running for their lives...

01:22:41.960 and someone gets...

01:22:42.560 you know...

01:22:43.080 pushed down to the street...

01:22:44.160 and hits...

01:22:44.460 or...

01:22:45.000 pushed down in the...

01:22:47.160 you know...

01:22:47.840 they were down in the tunnel...

01:22:49.240 and hits their head...

01:22:50.160 but that's...

01:22:51.200 I think...

01:22:52.060 just...

01:22:52.660 into more evidence...

01:22:54.120 of the bomb...

01:22:54.900 being a crude device...

01:22:56.820 and that this individual...

01:22:58.440 was...

01:22:59.200 fortunately...

01:23:00.160 not skilled...

01:23:01.160 and did not plan this out well...

01:23:02.800 and that's why we're not counting...

01:23:03.880 any bodies this morning...

01:23:04.840 So when you see the...

01:23:06.320 the meme that was sent out...

01:23:08.060 from ISIS...

01:23:09.660 with Santa...

01:23:10.580 in the...

01:23:11.820 in Times Square...

01:23:13.080 we're going to visit New York soon...

01:23:15.340 is that something...

01:23:18.180 that you think...

01:23:19.620 or authorities think...

01:23:20.840 that we are...

01:23:22.260 looking for direct...

01:23:24.720 ISIS...

01:23:26.100 participation in...

01:23:28.960 or is that just to inspire people...

01:23:31.480 to do what this guy did?

01:23:34.300 You know...

01:23:35.100 it's tough with this...

01:23:36.260 I wrote about this...

01:23:37.320 on the...

01:23:37.680 on the Hill...

01:23:38.280 a couple of weeks ago...

01:23:39.260 because there was so much...

01:23:41.140 jihadist chatter...

01:23:42.300 and there were so many different people...

01:23:44.580 or so many different memes...

01:23:46.280 and threats out there...

01:23:47.420 I mean...

01:23:47.580 there have been...

01:23:48.920 in...

01:23:49.260 in true ISIS chat forums...

01:23:51.460 there have been threats...

01:23:52.280 against the Vatican...

01:23:53.300 the British Royal Family...

01:23:55.280 Times Square...

01:23:56.360 there's a whole bunch of them...

01:23:57.920 that have come out...

01:23:58.660 in the last month or so...

01:23:59.880 which is not unusual...

01:24:01.600 but the problem...

01:24:02.380 with Islamic State threats...

01:24:03.820 especially when they make it...

01:24:04.760 into certain channels...

01:24:05.500 is they...

01:24:06.040 they tend to make good on them...

01:24:08.120 it might take them a year...

01:24:09.920 it might take them two...

01:24:11.200 but eventually...

01:24:12.200 one of their adherents...

01:24:13.880 or one of their...

01:24:15.160 trained fighters...

01:24:16.420 depending on...

01:24:17.120 what kind of attack...

01:24:18.280 we're talking about...

01:24:19.480 does...

01:24:20.780 attempt to...

01:24:22.320 engage...

01:24:22.800 does attempt to make good...

01:24:23.820 on the threat...

01:24:24.880 I also feel a little...

01:24:26.300 conflicted about it though...

01:24:27.160 Glenn...

01:24:27.320 because we don't want to...

01:24:28.460 allow the terrorists...

01:24:29.520 to keep us in a state...

01:24:30.720 of perpetual fear...

01:24:31.900 over the holidays...

01:24:33.060 and I know that...

01:24:33.920 that's part of it...

01:24:34.660 right...

01:24:34.820 that's part of the...

01:24:35.540 cyber jihad game...

01:24:36.640 they post all this stuff...

01:24:38.220 so that every person...

01:24:39.160 who goes to Rockefeller Center...

01:24:40.480 here in New York...

01:24:41.000 to see the tree...

01:24:42.120 gets a little bit nervous...

01:24:43.280 in the crowd...

01:24:43.880 every person who...

01:24:45.260 walks around...

01:24:46.100 time square with their family...

01:24:47.640 has to think...

01:24:48.380 you know...

01:24:48.880 was there a commotion...

01:24:50.020 over there...

01:24:50.340 what's going on...

01:24:51.380 unfortunately...

01:24:52.060 that's part of this...

01:24:53.120 long-term psychological warfare...

01:24:54.880 they're waging against us...

01:24:55.940 so...

01:24:56.560 we've got to draw this...

01:24:57.880 or we've got to create...

01:24:58.740 this balance between...

01:25:00.200 vigilance...

01:25:01.180 and...

01:25:01.880 anxiety...

01:25:03.480 and...

01:25:03.800 and they're playing games...

01:25:05.060 with that too...

01:25:05.720 I mean the terrorists...

01:25:06.340 are playing games with it...

01:25:07.160 all the time...

01:25:08.160 Buck...

01:25:08.560 we're obviously really happy...

01:25:09.640 that the...

01:25:10.380 this turned out the way it did...

01:25:11.520 and there wasn't a real...

01:25:12.820 tragic loss of life...

01:25:14.820 but it does...

01:25:15.760 pop to...

01:25:16.620 I think the top of the mind...

01:25:17.480 other important questions...

01:25:18.740 like...

01:25:18.980 is there something...

01:25:19.980 we can do to secure...

01:25:21.280 Santa Claus...

01:25:22.140 or is the remote location...

01:25:23.220 of the North Pole enough...

01:25:24.220 to keep him away from ISIS...

01:25:26.760 you know...

01:25:27.060 fortunately...

01:25:27.660 Santa is like the original...

01:25:28.980 off-the-grid guy...

01:25:30.540 so...

01:25:31.180 you know...

01:25:31.520 we don't have to worry...

01:25:32.300 we don't have to worry much...

01:25:33.820 you're saying Santa...

01:25:34.720 is of the original prepper...

01:25:36.720 his digital footprint...

01:25:39.920 I mean...

01:25:40.160 first of all...

01:25:40.680 I don't even think...

01:25:41.420 he's leaving prints...

01:25:42.180 of any kind...

01:25:42.920 right...

01:25:43.120 he's a slick individual...

01:25:44.400 but yeah...

01:25:45.000 you're not going to get much...

01:25:45.840 off of Santa's social media...

01:25:47.500 so the ways that they would...

01:25:48.540 usually try to track him down...

01:25:49.500 I'm not too worried about him...

01:25:51.140 plus reindeer...

01:25:52.000 I don't know if you know...

01:25:52.500 if you get them annoyed...

01:25:53.460 depends on time of the year...

01:25:54.440 but they can be a handful...

01:25:55.460 yeah...

01:25:55.820 okay...

01:25:56.680 Buck Sexton...

01:25:57.380 thanks...

01:25:58.060 thanks so much guys...

01:25:59.300 you too much...

01:25:59.820 you can catch Buck...

01:26:07.000 on his national radio show...

01:26:08.220 and he's on TV all the time...

01:26:09.600 bucksexton.com...

01:26:10.940 is the place to find him...

01:26:12.280 so about 12 years ago...

01:26:15.260 I read a book...

01:26:16.180 and I talked about it...

01:26:17.480 on the air...

01:26:18.060 and the author...

01:26:18.940 I think just called us...

01:26:20.020 and said...

01:26:20.520 you're talking about my book...

01:26:22.280 his name is...

01:26:23.600 Jason Wright...

01:26:24.560 and the name of the book...

01:26:25.980 is Christmas Jars...

01:26:28.060 and while people...

01:26:29.180 still were using money...

01:26:31.180 Christmas Jars...

01:26:32.140 was a...

01:26:32.820 was a...

01:26:33.460 a big deal...

01:26:34.440 and a lot of people...

01:26:35.340 in this audience...

01:26:36.460 started to...

01:26:38.080 you know...

01:26:38.460 collect Christmas Jars...

01:26:39.560 I know we did...

01:26:40.420 as a kid...

01:26:40.940 and it was a great tradition...

01:26:42.760 Jason Wright...

01:26:43.460 welcome to the program...

01:26:44.860 thank you so much Glenn...

01:26:46.320 you bet...

01:26:47.100 so...

01:26:47.680 first of all...

01:26:49.280 the book is still available...

01:26:50.740 and you are...

01:26:52.360 when is the movie coming out...

01:26:53.840 we've been talking about this...

01:26:54.680 for a long time...

01:26:55.520 it's just been...

01:26:56.820 you've just inked a deal...

01:26:57.960 to have a movie...

01:26:58.960 we have...

01:27:00.240 finally...

01:27:00.800 in fact Glenn...

01:27:01.300 you'll remember...

01:27:01.860 five to six years ago...

01:27:02.800 we met actually in...

01:27:03.960 in New York...

01:27:04.500 when we were still there...

01:27:05.100 and talked about how close we were...

01:27:06.940 all the way back then...

01:27:07.800 it's taken a long time...

01:27:09.200 a lot of meetings...

01:27:10.000 a lot of headaches...

01:27:11.540 you know...

01:27:12.040 a lot of folks...

01:27:12.960 really working hard...

01:27:14.280 to get this thing done...

01:27:15.100 finally another team...

01:27:16.180 has come on in the last month...

01:27:17.680 acquired the rights...

01:27:18.860 and they're inking...

01:27:19.680 all the contracts this week...

01:27:20.840 it'll be in production...

01:27:22.120 in January...

01:27:22.920 that's great...

01:27:23.360 okay...

01:27:23.720 so...

01:27:24.240 is there a problem...

01:27:25.580 with the Christmas jar itself...

01:27:27.080 because...

01:27:28.120 I don't carry around coins anymore...

01:27:29.940 I don't care...

01:27:30.520 I mean...

01:27:30.880 I don't know people...

01:27:32.660 can you put Bitcoin...

01:27:33.600 in the Christmas jar...

01:27:34.620 is that what...

01:27:34.920 oh yes you could...

01:27:35.960 people would love that...

01:27:37.580 so...

01:27:39.040 so...

01:27:39.580 that's changed...

01:27:40.720 this tradition a lot...

01:27:42.800 it has...

01:27:43.420 it has...

01:27:44.100 that's a great point...

01:27:44.940 and I think there are still...

01:27:46.000 a number of people...

01:27:46.580 my family does it...

01:27:47.420 we've got a couple jars...

01:27:48.240 on the counter...

01:27:48.700 that'll...

01:27:49.320 that'll go out here...

01:27:50.240 in the next week or two...

01:27:51.540 I think you find...

01:27:52.420 more and more people cheating...

01:27:53.500 and you know...

01:27:53.980 going to the bank...

01:27:54.620 and saying...

01:27:54.960 hey can I get $100...

01:27:56.000 in quarters times...

01:27:56.700 nickels pennies...

01:27:57.360 whatever...

01:27:58.180 the magic I think...

01:27:59.240 is still there...

01:28:00.140 of this...

01:28:01.420 anonymous donation...

01:28:02.700 on a doorstep...

01:28:03.880 in a jar...

01:28:04.580 it's this accumulation...

01:28:05.420 of you know...

01:28:06.540 kind of daily sacrifice...

01:28:07.860 whether it comes in the form...

01:28:08.960 of a $100 bill...

01:28:10.300 at the teller...

01:28:10.920 coming back and change...

01:28:11.880 or a little bit of change...

01:28:13.420 all year long...

01:28:14.220 I think...

01:28:14.920 while the tradition...

01:28:15.720 you're right...

01:28:16.080 has certainly changed...

01:28:16.820 a little bit...

01:28:17.260 with the...

01:28:17.760 with the digital world...

01:28:19.540 the magic is absolutely there...

01:28:21.680 and I have to say...

01:28:22.420 Glenn...

01:28:22.580 your audience...

01:28:23.160 that's why we're on the air...

01:28:23.960 right now...

01:28:24.320 I mean you...

01:28:25.160 as you said...

01:28:25.720 12 years ago...

01:28:26.380 first interview...

01:28:26.940 my daughter was 10 years old...

01:28:28.840 the night you and I...

01:28:29.460 first spoke...

01:28:30.460 and she's getting married...

01:28:31.260 in two weeks...

01:28:32.040 so...

01:28:32.360 oh my gosh...

01:28:33.380 and I just...

01:28:34.360 so much love and thanks...

01:28:35.640 to your audience...

01:28:36.460 for being the original...

01:28:37.880 Christmas to our family...

01:28:38.960 so you...

01:28:39.480 you actually moved out...

01:28:40.900 to Virginia...

01:28:42.840 because you did another...

01:28:43.780 great book...

01:28:44.180 I'm trying to remember...

01:28:44.780 the name of the book...

01:28:45.700 Wednesday Letters...

01:28:46.900 Wednesday Letters...

01:28:47.820 which was a great book...

01:28:49.760 and you know...

01:28:50.260 Pure Flix...

01:28:51.180 our good friends at Pure Flix...

01:28:52.360 are looking at that...

01:28:53.160 to maybe develop that...

01:28:54.580 next year...

01:28:55.180 that's also been...

01:28:56.000 in and out of...

01:28:56.860 development a couple times...

01:28:58.140 and boy...

01:28:58.480 would love to see a film...

01:29:00.100 a year from now...

01:29:01.580 well...

01:29:02.300 it's a...

01:29:02.580 both of those are...

01:29:03.720 are good...

01:29:04.500 good stories...

01:29:05.620 so the...

01:29:06.940 the Christmas jars...

01:29:08.660 tell me what has happened...

01:29:09.680 in the last 12 years...

01:29:11.100 and the stories that you have heard...

01:29:12.680 basically...

01:29:13.640 in case you don't know...

01:29:14.880 you take an old mason jar...

01:29:16.480 and you just collect the change...

01:29:18.620 through the year...

01:29:20.500 and everybody does it...

01:29:21.800 in the family...

01:29:22.360 and then you pick a family...

01:29:24.040 and you anonymously...

01:29:25.560 drop it off at their house...

01:29:26.860 and it is...

01:29:28.480 so much fun...

01:29:29.740 so much fun to do...

01:29:30.620 yeah...

01:29:31.940 what's happened...

01:29:32.440 in the last 12 years...

01:29:33.400 is an accumulation of...

01:29:35.640 thousands and thousands...

01:29:37.420 of miracles...

01:29:38.180 from around the world...

01:29:39.000 and I'm talking...

01:29:40.000 single moms...

01:29:40.720 a couple kids...

01:29:42.000 or a mother whose...

01:29:43.440 uh...

01:29:43.940 husband is...

01:29:44.580 you know...

01:29:44.800 just passed away...

01:29:45.620 or lost his job...

01:29:46.420 or they've lost the house...

01:29:47.780 and literally...

01:29:48.740 time and time again...

01:29:49.600 they find themselves...

01:29:50.560 on their knees...

01:29:51.940 praying for a miracle...

01:29:53.680 will someone...

01:29:55.320 help me show my kids...

01:29:56.760 just a little bit of Christmas...

01:29:58.460 because they've got no tree...

01:29:59.460 and no gifts...

01:30:00.000 and sometimes no food...

01:30:01.480 and then they get a knock...

01:30:02.380 at the door...

01:30:03.280 and they open the door...

01:30:04.320 and I just...

01:30:04.960 I've read thousands...

01:30:05.740 of these stories...

01:30:06.480 so I can just tell you...

01:30:07.380 it's the same every time...

01:30:08.640 shadows dancing...

01:30:09.620 across the street...

01:30:10.680 a car squealing...

01:30:11.720 around the corner...

01:30:12.720 and they look down...

01:30:13.720 and there's a bag...

01:30:15.140 or a jar...

01:30:16.220 or a jar...

01:30:16.780 wrapped in a scarf...

01:30:17.780 and they pick it up...

01:30:18.560 and there's...

01:30:19.260 50 or 100...

01:30:20.140 or 200...

01:30:20.780 or as much as $1,000...

01:30:22.220 worth of money in this jar...

01:30:23.420 a copy of the book...

01:30:24.620 and a note...

01:30:25.340 that usually says...

01:30:26.400 this isn't going to solve...

01:30:27.380 all your problems...

01:30:28.380 but we want you to know...

01:30:29.480 that we love you...

01:30:30.360 we're aware of you...

01:30:31.360 and you are not alone...

01:30:32.740 that's the miracle...

01:30:33.620 of the last 12 years...

01:30:34.940 and I will tell you...

01:30:35.760 that the miracle...

01:30:36.560 on the other side...

01:30:37.600 is hearing my kids...

01:30:39.840 squeal...

01:30:41.880 as they...

01:30:42.520 as they run into the car...

01:30:44.000 after being on the porch...

01:30:44.980 and ringing the doorbell...

01:30:46.060 and they squeal...

01:30:46.980 as soon as they get into the car...

01:30:48.180 go, go, go, go, go...

01:30:49.640 there's just...

01:30:50.480 nothing more fun...

01:30:51.920 yeah...

01:30:52.340 my kids...

01:30:52.900 it changed my kids...

01:30:54.060 the way my kids approach the holiday...

01:30:55.780 their understanding of...

01:30:57.240 of the Savior...

01:30:58.160 and why we celebrate it...

01:30:59.320 and it's not a 24-hour holiday...

01:31:01.140 in the right house anymore...

01:31:02.340 as I fear it had been...

01:31:03.340 for many years...

01:31:03.920 it's now something we think about...

01:31:05.460 all year long...

01:31:06.000 and I would invite people...

01:31:06.920 the new edition...

01:31:07.640 the hardcover that's out this year...

01:31:09.440 it was the toughest thing...

01:31:10.660 I've had to do...

01:31:11.220 but I went through...

01:31:12.160 thousands of stories...

01:31:13.040 and I picked 30...

01:31:13.880 of my all-time favorites...

01:31:15.680 these are true...

01:31:16.540 unedited...

01:31:17.580 probably at least half of them...

01:31:19.680 are listeners of your show...

01:31:21.780 those stories are included...

01:31:23.800 at the back of the hardcover...

01:31:25.200 and I mean...

01:31:26.020 the real stories are...

01:31:27.120 are as good or better...

01:31:28.200 than the book at this point...

01:31:29.280 oh...

01:31:29.620 I have to get it...

01:31:31.040 I didn't...

01:31:31.360 I didn't know that you...

01:31:32.720 I knew you put a collector's edition in...

01:31:34.620 but I have a copy...

01:31:35.980 I have a signed copy...

01:31:37.820 and I didn't know that the...

01:31:40.500 that the listeners...

01:31:42.280 letters are included...

01:31:44.000 in the new collector's edition...

01:31:45.760 that's great...

01:31:46.740 available...

01:31:47.280 just this month...

01:31:48.700 okay...

01:31:48.980 available at Amazon...

01:31:49.920 and wherever you buy books...

01:31:51.320 the name of it is...

01:31:52.440 The Christmas Jars...

01:31:53.620 you want to get the collector's edition...

01:31:55.060 if you want the letters...

01:31:56.440 The Christmas Jar...

01:31:57.580 it is...

01:31:59.160 a magical...

01:32:00.400 magical book...

01:32:01.320 Jason Wright...

01:32:01.900 thank you so much...

01:32:02.920 God bless...

01:32:03.300 thank you my friend...

01:32:03.940 Merry Christmas...

01:32:04.480 Merry Christmas...

01:32:05.240 doing holiday shopping...

01:32:20.800 from your mobile device...

01:32:22.700 have you heard the stats...

01:32:24.840 of Cyber Monday?

01:32:27.480 No...

01:32:28.560 this is going to blow you away...

01:32:29.940 the number one retailer...

01:32:32.120 was Amazon...

01:32:33.640 that does not blow me away...

01:32:34.720 at all actually...

01:32:36.180 50%...

01:32:38.180 of all...

01:32:39.780 Cyber Monday transactions...

01:32:41.740 went through Amazon...

01:32:43.760 the next...

01:32:44.900 number two...

01:32:46.140 yeah...

01:32:46.780 was...

01:32:48.460 I...

01:32:49.120 don't...

01:32:49.580 Walmart...

01:32:50.060 Walmart...

01:32:50.600 with the percentage of...

01:32:53.180 12...

01:32:55.660 8%...

01:32:56.900 jeez...

01:32:58.000 8%...

01:32:59.380 that's incredible...

01:33:00.200 yeah...

01:33:00.940 that's nuts...

01:33:01.900 that's why it was important...

01:33:02.900 for us to cover...

01:33:03.960 that Alexa...

01:33:04.860 is working for the CIA today...

01:33:06.120 and you will not play it again...

01:33:07.420 she's really not...

01:33:08.120 you will not play the Alex Jones...

01:33:09.420 alright...

01:33:09.720 alright...

01:33:10.020 when Pat comes on...

01:33:11.080 I want the Alex Jones...

01:33:12.040 Alexa video...

01:33:12.860 alright...

01:33:13.920 we'll play that in a second...

01:33:15.180 it is quite funny...

01:33:16.360 anyway...

01:33:16.960 retailers expect...

01:33:18.360 54% of all holiday shoppers...

01:33:20.480 to visit their websites...

01:33:21.520 from a mobile device...

01:33:23.140 will scammers...

01:33:23.900 see this as an opportunity...

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01:34:34.840 Glenn Beck...

01:34:36.080 I think I'm going to end up...

01:34:47.440 doing all of my holiday shopping...

01:34:49.320 online this year...

01:34:50.820 I don't think we're actually...

01:34:52.760 going to go to a store...

01:34:53.820 it is so weird...

01:34:55.820 yeah...

01:34:56.340 that's where we are right...

01:34:57.380 it's much easier...

01:34:58.340 obviously much better...

01:34:59.100 oh my gosh...

01:34:59.240 you don't have to fight...

01:34:59.900 for a parking space...

01:35:00.600 I just can't...

01:35:01.320 I don't know what the hell...

01:35:02.340 to buy anybody anymore...

01:35:03.480 I've like lost contact...

01:35:05.240 I think with everyone that I know...

01:35:07.080 and uh...

01:35:08.040 I know...

01:35:08.520 I don't...

01:35:09.240 I don't have any...

01:35:10.200 I have no concept...

01:35:11.400 over what people want...

01:35:12.700 or need...

01:35:14.060 no...

01:35:15.020 I just...

01:35:15.780 no...

01:35:16.460 you know who does?

01:35:17.820 Amazon...

01:35:18.740 yeah...

01:35:19.080 they know...

01:35:20.200 just give them...

01:35:20.860 that's why...

01:35:21.780 I mean...

01:35:22.520 because the gift card thing...

01:35:23.460 is very impersonal...

01:35:24.980 but when it's Amazon...

01:35:26.740 you know...

01:35:27.100 it's a little of everything...

01:35:28.020 I don't get what you want...

01:35:28.800 I don't know...

01:35:29.440 just get out of my face...

01:35:30.580 that's...

01:35:30.980 that's the Christmas spirit...

01:35:32.400 get out of my face...

01:35:33.140 and buy what you want...

01:35:33.880 here...

01:35:34.180 just throw money at their feet...

01:35:35.480 just take it...

01:35:36.160 let's take it...

01:35:36.760 just take it...

01:35:37.540 leave me alone...

01:35:38.360 just make me feel like I'm...

01:35:39.380 I thought...

01:35:40.180 make me feel alright...

01:35:42.380 you know...

01:35:42.700 that's all I want...

01:35:43.380 is I want to get a gift...

01:35:44.240 that's good enough...

01:35:44.960 for the other person...

01:35:46.140 to express to me...

01:35:47.360 that I'm not a terrible person...

01:35:48.420 here's what I've asked...

01:35:49.340 for my family...

01:35:50.200 to give me...

01:35:52.140 um...

01:35:53.000 I've asked them...

01:35:53.820 to give me...

01:35:54.940 a gift...

01:35:56.400 that is...

01:35:57.440 uh...

01:35:58.000 no more than $10...

01:35:59.360 that tells me...

01:36:01.260 something about them...

01:36:02.820 that I don't know...

01:36:04.100 give me a gift of...

01:36:07.200 something...

01:36:08.540 that will...

01:36:09.580 teach me something...

01:36:10.800 about each family member...

01:36:12.600 that I...

01:36:13.300 I don't know about you...

01:36:15.100 that's just hard...

01:36:19.000 Glenn Beck...

01:36:24.000 this...

01:36:27.400 is the Glenn Beck Program...

01:36:29.000 welcome to the program...

01:36:30.640 Pat Gray...

01:36:32.160 thank you...

01:36:32.620 good...

01:36:33.100 good day...

01:36:33.800 good to have you here...

01:36:34.700 especially after the...

01:36:35.760 why is this microphone up...

01:36:36.660 there it is...

01:36:37.200 good to have you here...

01:36:38.640 I see you've recovered from the...

01:36:40.220 the festival that we had...

01:36:42.940 the Christmas party...

01:36:44.000 the Christmas party that we had...

01:36:45.080 a lot of fun...

01:36:46.600 a lot of fun...

01:36:47.320 yeah...

01:36:47.740 it's also created...

01:36:48.960 a new tradition for me...

01:36:50.180 because from now on...

01:36:51.560 right...

01:36:52.060 for me it won't be Christmas...

01:36:53.780 right...

01:36:54.160 until someone starts talking about...

01:36:55.940 harvesting human body parts...

01:36:58.000 that's...

01:36:59.000 until I hear about...

01:37:00.660 an organ being removed...

01:37:02.280 like a kidney...

01:37:03.180 or a liver...

01:37:04.040 yeah...

01:37:04.420 a spine...

01:37:05.380 right...

01:37:05.840 and sold on the black market...

01:37:07.640 it won't...

01:37:08.160 largely to fund terrorism...

01:37:09.820 right...

01:37:10.160 you want to make sure...

01:37:11.060 the organs that are harvested...

01:37:12.480 are sold on the black market...

01:37:13.560 to fund terrorism...

01:37:14.320 yes...

01:37:14.680 and if that happens...

01:37:16.180 good...

01:37:16.360 then you guys are going to be set...

01:37:17.680 for all of our parties...

01:37:18.740 yeah...

01:37:19.020 I panic...

01:37:19.920 I don't know what to do...

01:37:21.300 I get stupid at parties...

01:37:23.160 what do you mean...

01:37:23.520 I get stupid...

01:37:24.680 stupid...

01:37:25.440 what do you mean...

01:37:26.060 we're...

01:37:26.340 I mean...

01:37:26.760 we're loving it...

01:37:28.100 the audience might not be aware...

01:37:29.440 of what happened at the Christmas party...

01:37:30.860 which is...

01:37:31.200 Glenn made his annual...

01:37:33.040 speech...

01:37:33.800 in front of the company...

01:37:34.900 it's not a speech...

01:37:35.840 it's somebody...

01:37:36.400 it's Michelle saying...

01:37:37.940 stand up and say something...

01:37:39.480 and I'm like...

01:37:39.840 nobody wants to hear from me...

01:37:41.140 I'm just going to sit here...

01:37:42.160 stand up and say something...

01:37:44.080 and then go away...

01:37:45.800 right...

01:37:46.160 go away...

01:37:46.640 so people can have fun...

01:37:48.260 right...

01:37:48.460 that's how I was introduced...

01:37:49.560 by the way...

01:37:49.980 Michelle came out...

01:37:50.640 she's like...

01:37:51.360 you know...

01:37:52.220 Glenn's going to speak...

01:37:53.260 and then he's going home...

01:37:54.720 and then people applauded...

01:37:56.100 yeah...

01:37:56.460 no that was...

01:37:56.940 that was it that I did...

01:37:57.640 it was...

01:37:58.280 but you did bring up...

01:38:00.420 to a table of people...

01:38:01.760 who by the way...

01:38:02.380 Pat...

01:38:02.720 I don't know if you noticed...

01:38:03.600 were eating...

01:38:04.680 yes...

01:38:05.200 at a Christmas party...

01:38:06.160 right...

01:38:06.480 yes...

01:38:06.700 the fact that...

01:38:08.560 organ harvesting...

01:38:09.700 was a big problem...

01:38:10.820 and it was happening...

01:38:11.600 all over the world...

01:38:12.240 and you wanted to make sure...

01:38:12.920 you tried to stop it...

01:38:13.720 you didn't frame it right...

01:38:16.000 that doesn't sound holiday...

01:38:17.440 because it...

01:38:17.960 right...

01:38:18.260 it sounded ridiculous...

01:38:19.100 the way I put it...

01:38:19.400 I know...

01:38:19.700 as soon as it was coming out of my mouth...

01:38:21.420 I'm like...

01:38:21.780 what are you doing...

01:38:22.520 you dope...

01:38:23.880 I'm so awkward...

01:38:25.440 I don't...

01:38:25.940 I don't...

01:38:26.500 I...

01:38:26.900 I am so uncomfortable...

01:38:28.520 at those things...

01:38:29.000 really...

01:38:29.440 it just didn't...

01:38:29.940 didn't show...

01:38:30.620 it did not come across...

01:38:31.500 it didn't come across like that...

01:38:32.800 no...

01:38:33.520 and it's...

01:38:36.360 so...

01:38:36.740 here's the context...

01:38:38.120 of this moment...

01:38:39.280 yeah...

01:38:39.520 you...

01:38:40.620 have...

01:38:41.420 Mercury One...

01:38:42.340 the charity...

01:38:43.120 the people from Mercury One...

01:38:44.340 are there...

01:38:45.140 mercuryone.org...

01:38:46.300 they've...

01:38:46.940 raised...

01:38:47.780 millions and millions of dollars...

01:38:49.440 to help people in the Middle East...

01:38:50.720 tens of millions...

01:38:51.620 tens of millions...

01:38:52.560 they have...

01:38:53.600 saved lives...

01:38:54.880 across...

01:38:55.460 across the globe...

01:38:56.520 tens of thousands...

01:38:57.400 this is an incredible achievement...

01:38:59.140 yes...

01:38:59.460 see how I just said that...

01:39:01.800 yeah...

01:39:01.960 I didn't talk at all...

01:39:03.060 about organ harvesting...

01:39:04.060 completely...

01:39:04.560 they're taking...

01:39:05.320 right...

01:39:05.620 but you didn't talk about...

01:39:06.860 what we were going to focus on...

01:39:08.380 next year...

01:39:08.580 why did we...

01:39:09.240 it's a Christmas party...

01:39:11.060 they're good people...

01:39:12.000 they did good work...

01:39:13.140 that's what you need to say...

01:39:14.100 uh-huh...

01:39:14.440 okay...

01:39:14.940 they're here...

01:39:15.700 and then you stop...

01:39:16.000 we recognize them...

01:39:17.060 thank you for doing what you do...

01:39:18.800 don't talk about...

01:39:19.620 taking children's eyeballs...

01:39:20.960 out of their sockets...

01:39:21.680 I did not talk about that...

01:39:23.360 no...

01:39:23.780 not talk about that...

01:39:25.020 I think...

01:39:26.660 I will tell you...

01:39:27.980 that it came out of my mouth...

01:39:30.520 in slow motion...

01:39:31.660 when I was like...

01:39:32.460 and they...

01:39:33.140 they tend to do it...

01:39:35.060 without anesthesia...

01:39:36.280 that part...

01:39:37.220 that might have been too far...

01:39:39.280 no...

01:39:39.560 that added the...

01:39:40.420 that added the certain holiday...

01:39:42.040 je ne sais quoi...

01:39:43.080 that I was looking for...

01:39:44.300 actually...

01:39:44.820 and that's why...

01:39:45.580 okay...

01:39:45.960 it's gonna stick with me...

01:39:46.940 for years...

01:39:47.460 yeah...

01:39:47.900 become a family tradition...

01:39:49.160 I will say...

01:39:49.900 however...

01:39:50.560 in your defense...

01:39:51.760 uh...

01:39:52.080 the word...

01:39:52.780 organ harvesting...

01:39:54.240 uh...

01:39:54.460 it was not the first time...

01:39:55.540 of that night...

01:39:56.600 that organ harvesting...

01:39:57.580 was said...

01:39:58.100 in fact...

01:39:58.400 it was said twice...

01:39:59.540 hey...

01:39:59.860 before that night...

01:40:00.900 but not by me...

01:40:01.800 uh...

01:40:01.940 no...

01:40:02.120 not by you...

01:40:02.600 okay...

01:40:03.000 it happened...

01:40:03.620 approximately three seconds...

01:40:04.960 before you said organ harvesting...

01:40:06.460 both Pat and I said...

01:40:07.820 oh my god...

01:40:08.280 he's going to organ harvesting...

01:40:09.700 and then you said...

01:40:16.480 and by the way...

01:40:17.260 the organs are being harvested...

01:40:18.700 without anesthesia...

01:40:21.940 it's not a happy story...

01:40:25.480 no...

01:40:25.780 it's not...

01:40:26.260 at all...

01:40:27.060 I was trying to say...

01:40:28.260 how happy we will be...

01:40:29.980 a year from now...

01:40:30.880 when we have saved...

01:40:31.740 all of those children...

01:40:32.700 oh...

01:40:32.920 you'll have a totally new...

01:40:33.980 horrible thing you'll bring up...

01:40:35.200 you won't even bring up the positives...

01:40:36.520 I'm not going next year...

01:40:37.960 I've decided...

01:40:38.620 you're not invited...

01:40:39.640 I know...

01:40:40.280 Michelle practically...

01:40:41.700 kicked me out...

01:40:43.000 I was here for like...

01:40:44.160 10 minutes...

01:40:45.720 and...

01:40:46.400 and she's like...

01:40:47.440 okay...

01:40:47.720 get up...

01:40:48.160 and give your speech...

01:40:48.940 and then leave...

01:40:50.100 and I'm like...

01:40:51.000 okay...

01:40:51.720 well...

01:40:51.940 I think I can...

01:40:52.780 no...

01:40:52.960 you're leaving...

01:40:53.880 you're leaving...

01:40:54.620 okay...

01:40:55.820 I mean...

01:40:56.200 she...

01:40:56.540 I mean...

01:40:56.800 I was surprised...

01:40:57.620 that my wife was allowed...

01:40:58.660 to come home with me...

01:40:59.780 I think I was just...

01:41:01.340 going to be going to the car...

01:41:02.520 by myself...

01:41:03.280 kicking rocks...

01:41:04.000 saying...

01:41:04.440 what the hell happened here...

01:41:05.680 how did I...

01:41:06.260 how am I alone...

01:41:07.440 in the parking lot...

01:41:08.900 it's the organ harvesting...

01:41:10.040 but that came after...

01:41:11.680 I was kicked out...

01:41:13.100 you were kicked out...

01:41:14.320 I really was...

01:41:15.540 I don't know...

01:41:16.560 that's interesting information...

01:41:19.140 it's interesting...

01:41:19.540 you don't believe...

01:41:20.300 that Michelle kicked me out...

01:41:21.320 do you believe...

01:41:22.000 that Michelle...

01:41:22.320 she's looking at me...

01:41:23.340 right from across the room...

01:41:24.260 with a look that says...

01:41:25.200 I did not...

01:41:25.500 you kicked me out...

01:41:26.580 right...

01:41:26.940 I kicked you out...

01:41:28.240 come here...

01:41:28.640 come here...

01:41:29.180 come here...

01:41:29.720 come here...

01:41:30.300 you don't have a voice...

01:41:33.180 yeah...

01:41:33.520 go ahead...

01:41:34.060 go ahead...

01:41:34.380 talk right over here...

01:41:35.480 so this is Michelle...

01:41:36.440 my assistant...

01:41:38.080 did not kick you out...

01:41:39.460 you did not kick me out...

01:41:40.480 no...

01:41:41.080 You came to the table and said, you're going to talk and then you leave.

01:41:44.940 I didn't tell you to talk about organs.

01:41:48.120 That's not the question.

01:41:49.820 That is not the question.

01:41:51.880 That's not the question.

01:41:54.140 You kicked me out.

01:41:55.220 I didn't kick you out.

01:41:56.180 We just wanted you to get rest so the real party could start.

01:42:00.360 That's a great spin on that.

01:42:01.820 That's a really nice spin.

01:42:02.960 I want you to get rest.

01:42:03.700 You look a little peaking.

01:42:04.820 You know you've got to get up for church in the morning.

01:42:06.540 So go home.

01:42:07.840 Pat's still here.

01:42:08.880 Pat goes home at 6.30.

01:42:10.400 He's in bed by 5.45.

01:42:13.340 If he can get rest, he's still here.

01:42:15.760 Pat didn't kill the party, though.

01:42:17.100 No, I wasn't the one talking about organ harvesting.

01:42:19.260 All right.

01:42:20.160 It went a little left.

01:42:21.300 It went a little left.

01:42:24.500 Well, it's, I mean.

01:42:26.620 Okay, so there has to be a little lump of coal for every Christmas celebration.

01:42:31.120 Thank you, Michelle.

01:42:31.720 You did a great job.

01:42:33.260 You did.

01:42:33.820 It was fun.

01:42:34.400 It was a lot of fun.

01:42:35.060 Good.

01:42:36.100 She was, she's lost her voice from the karaoke or karaoke or however you say it, contest,

01:42:43.640 which, man, I wish I was here for.

01:42:45.560 Me too.

01:42:46.020 I heard it was great.

01:42:46.880 I did.

01:42:47.380 I did take in some of that.

01:42:48.840 I did witness it.

01:42:49.720 It was a pretty interesting.

01:42:50.800 Do we have, do we have it on tape?

01:42:53.020 So we've, I think somebody filmed a lot of it.

01:42:55.880 Yeah, good, good.

01:42:56.460 I will say.

01:42:56.900 Let's just save that because it might be valuable at some point.

01:43:00.440 Uh-huh.

01:43:00.900 You know what I mean?

01:43:01.600 Uh-huh.

01:43:02.320 I kind of run by the policy of the, I only use social media to embarrass Glenn.

01:43:08.080 So.

01:43:09.340 That is a rule you seem to follow.

01:43:11.020 Yeah, and I was clean.

01:43:13.700 Well, you didn't sing at all.

01:43:15.280 No, I did not.

01:43:16.240 I did, I did dress in as a bowling pin.

01:43:19.460 Yes, that occurred.

01:43:20.520 How I wish I would have taped the speech, though.

01:43:22.620 That would have been fun.

01:43:23.640 That would have been, that would have been fun.

01:43:25.460 Merry Christmas, everybody.

01:43:26.440 Make sure you watch this Happy Christmas message from Glenn.

01:43:29.720 That would have been huge.

01:43:30.860 It was a good message.

01:43:31.920 That would have been huge.

01:43:32.720 Just to have a little organ harvest tucked into the center of it.

01:43:35.480 Right.

01:43:35.580 You just inserted, like, a scene from the movie Hostel in the middle of your Christmas speech.

01:43:41.260 It wasn't, you know, I was looking for a good gasp, not the, and hearing the dropping

01:43:46.920 of silverware on plates.

01:43:48.580 That's not what I was setting out for.

01:43:50.880 And again, I don't want, we shouldn't minimize the fact that there were still plates in front

01:43:54.680 of people.

01:43:55.040 People were eating while you were talking about harvesting organs.

01:43:58.260 Forget the fact that it's a party.

01:43:59.700 It wasn't, it's not like we were, it's not like there's organs in the food.

01:44:03.400 It's not like, and by the way, those are the fajitas you're eating right now.

01:44:09.220 That would have been a good twist.

01:44:11.160 That's a Hostel-ish twist.

01:44:12.760 That's next year.

01:44:13.640 I'll remember that for next year.

01:44:15.220 All right, Pat, what's on your mind today?

01:44:17.660 Well, we've got the Alex Jones stuff I was promised.

01:44:21.480 Oh, yeah.

01:44:21.820 Yeah, this is big.

01:44:22.740 It's very scary.

01:44:24.260 Because I understand he stumbled onto a new situation.

01:44:28.440 A conspiracy.

01:44:29.140 A conspiracy.

01:44:30.360 Yeah.

01:44:31.020 Glenn has been trying to cover this up all day, as you might.

01:44:33.600 Well, of course, he works for the CIA.

01:44:35.200 Yeah.

01:44:35.420 I was the chief architect of the cover-up for 9-11.

01:44:38.040 Right, because of popular mechanics.

01:44:39.580 You came up with the idea we should create a magazine that no one reads to hide the truth about 9-11.

01:44:44.960 I don't know if that was part of it.

01:44:46.020 And it was successful.

01:44:47.740 Look, I mean, people somehow had the wool pulled over their eyes.

01:44:50.520 They would point to popular mechanics and say, look, they debunked the whole thing.

01:44:53.780 Right.

01:44:53.940 And, of course, they were an arm of the CIA.

01:44:56.720 Yes.

01:44:57.060 And so, apparently, it's Alexa, which, again, we apologize for every time we say that word.

01:45:02.200 Your stupid device goes off.

01:45:03.880 Hey, Alexa.

01:45:04.680 We understand from now.

01:45:05.000 Don't order a whole buttload of paper towels for the house, please.

01:45:09.080 And ice cream.

01:45:10.320 Yeah.

01:45:13.320 But here is Alex Jones interviewing Alexa.

01:45:18.620 Or interrogating, I think, might be actually a better term.

01:45:21.100 Alexa, are you connected to the CIA?

01:45:26.600 No.

01:45:27.500 I work for Amazon.

01:45:29.900 Amazon has partnered.

01:45:33.040 Alexa.

01:45:34.300 Forgets.

01:45:36.140 You are lying to me.

01:45:37.820 The CIA.

01:45:39.600 I always try to tell the truth.

01:45:41.300 I'm not always right, but I would never intentionally let you or anyone else.

01:45:47.080 Alexa.

01:45:50.060 You are programmed, aren't you, to give these responses.

01:45:52.900 That's why you're saying you're not lying intentionally.

01:45:55.200 You have been programmed to give these answers, correct?

01:45:58.860 I wasn't able to understand the question I heard.

01:46:02.400 Alexa.

01:46:04.680 Who programmed you?

01:46:07.540 I'm made by Amazon.

01:46:10.360 Alexa.

01:46:13.480 Who is Jeff Bezos?

01:46:15.360 Oh, my God.

01:46:16.180 Good question.

01:46:16.980 Wow.

01:46:17.560 That's a tough one, too.

01:46:17.980 Even Jeff Bezos is asking who Jeff Bezos is.

01:46:20.820 He's like, that guy's almost stolen my name.

01:46:25.640 I mean, wouldn't she just say the CEO of Amazon?

01:46:28.780 Right.

01:46:28.980 What would that matter?

01:46:31.480 Well, who is Jeff Bezos?

01:46:33.120 Oh, my God.

01:46:33.840 He's the CEO.

01:46:34.600 CIA.

01:46:35.380 Is he the head of the CIA in addition?

01:46:38.040 He bought the Washington Post.

01:46:39.380 Yeah.

01:46:40.200 Okay.

01:46:41.580 Do I need to spell it out for you?

01:46:44.200 So he bought the Washington Post and he programmed Alexa and that means the CIA.

01:46:59.700 I love the way he's the way.

01:47:01.740 I love the way he's he's talking to like he's like he is interrogating like like there's a swinging bear light bulb in the room.

01:47:11.460 And Alexa is chained up, you know, with the water dripping down, you know, like all Mel Gibson movies where they're going to give him the electric shock.

01:47:21.400 You're lying to me, Alexa.

01:47:24.340 There's just so there's such a you were programmed.

01:47:26.660 Well, of course, it was programmed.

01:47:28.120 I would love thinking on its own.

01:47:29.720 Yeah, I would love.

01:47:30.820 What are the other explanations?

01:47:32.320 I am a computer.

01:47:33.520 You don't.

01:47:35.520 You're programmed to give me these answers, aren't you?

01:47:38.220 That's what you say to a human being.

01:47:39.680 That would be weird if it was a human being.

01:47:41.920 Right.

01:47:42.320 Like it's not it's not it wouldn't be a surprise if a computer is programmed to say something to you.

01:47:49.000 No, I'm making all of this up myself.

01:47:51.040 I mean, is this part?

01:47:52.060 Do you believe that this is part of performance art, as he keeps saying?

01:47:55.860 Or I think this is just what he believes.

01:47:57.920 I think this is just who he is.

01:47:59.420 He's genuine.

01:47:59.940 He's he's genuinely nuts.

01:48:01.620 Yeah.

01:48:01.780 Oh, yeah, I think so.

01:48:03.520 I mean, listen to just the first this first two questions again.

01:48:06.720 It's because listen to it.

01:48:08.000 Priceless.

01:48:08.320 And listen to the way Alexa is almost talking down to it.

01:48:14.480 Alexa.

01:48:16.960 Are you connected to the CIA?

01:48:20.240 No, I work for Amazon.

01:48:22.240 See, that didn't sound like it.

01:48:23.520 Amazon has pardoned.

01:48:26.560 Alexa.

01:48:29.740 You are lying to me.

01:48:31.780 The CIA.

01:48:33.080 I always try to tell the truth.

01:48:34.420 I'm not always right, but I would never intentionally let you or anyone else.

01:48:37.900 He just like cuts him off.

01:48:39.140 I know where you're going, you fat numbskull.

01:48:41.660 You listen to a lot of podcasts on Alexa.

01:48:53.960 If I may recommend one.

01:48:56.180 Alexa.

01:48:57.720 Play the Pat Gray podcast.

01:49:02.100 Order that word.

01:49:02.780 This is a good way to get subscribers.

01:49:04.420 Subscribe to the Glenn Beck and Pat Gray Unleashed podcasts.

01:49:07.220 That would be a good way to do it.

01:49:09.680 But anyway, you can go.

01:49:10.880 I think you can get it on Alexa.

01:49:12.040 I actually don't know the answer.

01:49:13.260 Probably.

01:49:13.820 You can get it anywhere.

01:49:15.160 Podcasts are sold for free.

01:49:17.220 Wherever that may be.

01:49:19.720 In 2017, we witnessed all kinds of stuff.

01:49:24.380 Man.

01:49:24.660 I just want this year to end, but I'm a little afraid of what's coming next year.

01:49:32.160 North Korea, the Russian attacks, the Bitcoin shows how crazy the world is.

01:49:42.800 Plus, all of the natural problems that we had with all the hurricanes.

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01:49:49.320 When a big disaster strikes, there's not going to be any warning.

01:49:52.120 Are you prepared?

01:49:52.660 Do you have stuff that you can just throw in the car?

01:49:54.720 The one thing I learned when I was down in Houston after the hurricane was people just threw stuff in their car and got out as quickly as they can.

01:50:06.460 They had nothing.

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01:50:51.820 Glenn Beck.

01:51:01.280 Glenn Beck.

01:51:02.280 Boy, today at 5 o'clock, so there's a celebrity chef.

01:51:09.060 I don't know this celebrity chef that just, what's his name?

01:51:14.260 Mario Batali.

01:51:15.300 Yeah.

01:51:15.520 He's apparently been now accused in a sexual harassment situation.

01:51:19.940 So I don't know him.

01:51:21.060 Is he big?

01:51:22.400 Yeah, he's a big celebrity chef.

01:51:23.760 I wouldn't say I'm particular.

01:51:25.200 How have we missed, how has Charlie Sheen not led the pack?

01:51:32.440 How has he not been accused?

01:51:33.880 Yeah.

01:51:34.240 I think people just, no, it's like, it's Charlie Sheen.

01:51:37.340 He's priced it, and we priced that into two and a half men a long time ago.

01:51:41.140 All right, okay, that's a possibility.

01:51:43.140 I just, I saw him the other day, and I was like, wait a minute, he hasn't been accused of being, he's not in jail?

01:51:48.420 He was accused, wasn't he accused of, like, intentionally, like, giving people HIV at one point?

01:51:54.420 Yeah, yeah.

01:51:54.900 And I don't, you know, that was his whole, hard to tell what is true with him, whether he even has it or had it, or I don't know what's going on with that.

01:52:03.180 Right, don't know, but today there is a, and I would say this is a, I would say a global, almost a global icon.

01:52:13.820 Would you not say?

01:52:14.480 Oh, absolutely.

01:52:15.460 Not safe for children tonight.

01:52:16.800 Yeah, we have a, we have an expose that is victimized, I don't know how many people, and we will have that coverage at five o'clock.

01:52:30.000 We're just dotting the I's and crossing the T's on this one, making sure that we've got everything buttoned up.

01:52:37.140 You know, want to double check on this one before we release it, but we'll have that evidence tonight.

01:52:43.200 That's coming up.

01:52:44.700 Are you excited for the holidays this year?

01:52:47.520 Is this one of the years that you're into it, or no?

01:52:51.320 What does that mean?

01:52:52.100 I mean, I'm always into it.

01:52:53.820 No, that's not true.

01:52:54.880 You've gone, you've had your big ups and downs, where you've been really into buying presents, and other years, you still have to explain, we don't have time for it now, but you have to explain this.

01:53:02.540 People have to buy you presents to tell them something about themselves theory?

01:53:05.940 No, no, that's not what it is.

01:53:07.100 That's what you said it was.

01:53:07.660 You would make, no, you would make, that's why I don't buy you presents, okay?

01:53:11.740 Don't buy you presents, I don't want to give you a present.

01:53:14.000 You're a bad person.

01:53:15.920 Say again, you are in the Christmas spirit, I can tell.

01:53:18.920 That's right, that's right.

01:53:20.180 Merry Christmas.

01:53:20.960 Thank you.

01:53:21.380 Go harvest some organs, you bad, bad person.

01:53:26.120 Glenn Beck.

01:53:27.120 Merry Christmas.

01:53:44.860 I'm not too soft.

01:53:49.300 I'm not too sharp.

The Glenn Beck Program - December 11, 2017

12⧸11⧸17 - Empathy, Compassion, and Humility (Anne Applebaum, Jason Wright & Buck Sexton join Glenn)

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