The Glenn Beck Program - July 31, 2017


7⧸31⧸17 - Legislative Hall Pass (Alex Epstein & Walter Heyer Join Glenn)


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 52 minutes

Words per Minute

146.05174

Word Count

16,476

Sentence Count

101

Misogynist Sentences

17

Hate Speech Sentences

16


Summary

The First Amendment is there because the world has gone through this time and time again. The First Amendment protects the right to free speech. But what happens when people have too much of an opinion? Who decides? The mob or the courts?


Transcript

00:00:00.000 The Blaze Radio Network, on demand.
00:00:09.560 I, uh, you know, I hate to start your Monday off on this, but we have to.
00:00:15.420 We all have to decide who we are and what we believe.
00:00:20.200 And we either believe in the Bill of Rights or we don't.
00:00:24.480 Look at what happened in Venezuela this weekend.
00:00:28.580 You know, they're voting to change the Constitution.
00:00:32.780 And basically, they're voting to put it into a dictatorship.
00:00:37.160 And this is going to happen all over the world.
00:00:38.920 Mark my words, all over the world.
00:00:41.380 We're going to slide into fascism and communism, totalitarianism, any of those isms.
00:00:49.460 It's going to happen because chaos is ruling.
00:00:52.940 And when chaos rules, people look to any strongman just to stop the insanity.
00:01:01.100 It's human nature.
00:01:03.300 We would like to think we're immune from that.
00:01:06.400 But 45% of Americans now say that courts should be able to shut down media that has too much of a point of view.
00:01:22.140 By the way, um, that's just the First Amendment.
00:01:27.120 Don't worry about that.
00:01:29.260 Uh, but the GOP is not the savior on this one.
00:01:37.100 Do we believe in the First Amendment?
00:01:39.080 We go there, and I want to hear your voice right now.
00:01:44.540 I will make a stand.
00:01:47.040 I will raise my voice.
00:01:49.300 I will hold your hand.
00:01:51.660 Because we are one.
00:01:53.540 I will beat my drum.
00:01:55.780 I have made my choice.
00:01:58.000 We will overcome.
00:02:00.320 Because we are one.
00:02:02.020 The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.
00:02:06.000 This is the Glenn Beck Program.
00:02:12.340 45 to 20.
00:02:16.100 45% say, yeah, the judge, a judge should be able to say,
00:02:25.260 ah, you have too much point of view.
00:02:28.980 And shut down a newspaper or a news organization, television station, cable company, online, whatever it is.
00:02:37.420 You have too much of an opinion.
00:02:42.340 Holy cow.
00:02:44.100 Americans, you better pay attention to this.
00:02:46.460 First, they came for the labor unions.
00:02:49.160 And I said nothing, because I wasn't a union member.
00:02:53.020 Remember how that ends?
00:02:54.180 Uh, and then they came for me, and no one was around.
00:02:58.920 So, you want to start giving people the right to shut people down if they have too much of an opinion.
00:03:09.220 Well, what about talk radio?
00:03:12.000 45% of Republicans are for this.
00:03:16.060 Only 20% of Republicans are against.
00:03:20.000 The rest are I don't knows.
00:03:22.160 How is that even possible in today's world?
00:03:27.740 Well, I'll explain.
00:03:30.000 It's possible because so many people have done so much to discredit themselves.
00:03:36.440 And do you remember talking about a time that people won't know what to believe or who to believe?
00:03:44.820 Too many people have discredited themselves.
00:03:47.920 And now, it's up to you.
00:03:50.540 And now, hopefully, you have some credibility left.
00:03:55.480 And you can say to your friends and family, don't go there.
00:04:00.100 Don't go there.
00:04:01.220 I know it feels good, but don't go there.
00:04:03.420 Why wouldn't people just shut down talk radio?
00:04:09.200 Why wouldn't they just shut down the talk radio that they don't like?
00:04:14.180 Why not shut down Fox News?
00:04:18.580 Republicans are thinking that they can shut down CNN or NPR or I don't know what.
00:04:25.920 MSNBC, too much of an opinion.
00:04:29.260 But where does that stop?
00:04:31.600 Who decides?
00:04:33.420 The mob?
00:04:34.380 The judges?
00:04:35.780 The judges?
00:04:37.000 You want court systems?
00:04:40.020 The same people who have helped get us into this mess?
00:04:43.820 The same people who don't understand the Second Amendment?
00:04:46.860 You want them to now start to parse the First Amendment?
00:04:53.220 The same court system that said that O.J. Simpson wasn't guilty?
00:05:02.140 I don't.
00:05:09.060 Small government and conservative principles
00:05:13.640 have nothing to do with this.
00:05:21.820 This is fascism.
00:05:26.120 The First Amendment
00:05:27.720 is there because the world
00:05:31.420 has gone through this
00:05:33.520 time and time and time again.
00:05:38.960 How many things do we
00:05:40.660 do we have to
00:05:42.760 see in our own lifetime?
00:05:44.780 How many things do we have to
00:05:45.980 read in history books?
00:05:47.700 And for
00:05:48.560 that not
00:05:51.340 to be relevant,
00:05:52.900 well, nobody reads history.
00:05:54.580 Nobody's paying attention.
00:05:56.140 Okay.
00:05:56.680 How many things do we need
00:05:58.600 in pop culture
00:06:00.120 to tell us that this
00:06:01.800 always leads to dark places?
00:06:04.520 How many people watch
00:06:05.640 Games of Thrones?
00:06:06.580 Game of Thrones
00:06:10.400 a couple of weeks ago?
00:06:12.180 17 million?
00:06:14.060 Broke all records?
00:06:17.600 Have you noticed
00:06:18.600 what life is like there?
00:06:21.000 Do you think that's
00:06:22.080 protected speech?
00:06:26.220 What happens when you
00:06:27.600 shut a news organization
00:06:30.220 down?
00:06:30.760 Do you think those
00:06:34.360 people just go away
00:06:35.420 or do they find
00:06:36.400 other ways to communicate?
00:06:37.940 Do I now have to
00:06:38.780 shut them down
00:06:39.400 on the internet?
00:06:40.820 Do I now have to
00:06:41.820 shut them down
00:06:42.460 as individuals?
00:06:44.280 And if they still
00:06:45.300 won't be shut down,
00:06:46.640 if they still go
00:06:47.740 around town
00:06:48.700 and they become
00:06:49.240 a town crier
00:06:50.120 and they're just
00:06:51.580 saying it to their
00:06:52.280 friends and anybody
00:06:53.020 else who will listen,
00:06:55.140 do we have to
00:06:56.920 jail them?
00:06:58.460 How do we
00:06:59.200 silence them?
00:07:00.760 this is a
00:07:03.780 disaster.
00:07:10.920 Shutting down
00:07:11.880 news organizations
00:07:13.000 that are publishing
00:07:14.980 stories that are
00:07:15.920 biased
00:07:16.720 or
00:07:18.620 inaccurate.
00:07:22.260 How are we
00:07:23.380 going to decide
00:07:24.560 what is
00:07:26.060 inaccurate?
00:07:28.440 We can't
00:07:29.160 even,
00:07:29.560 we don't
00:07:30.060 how do we
00:07:31.240 define that?
00:07:33.340 Half of the
00:07:34.360 country
00:07:34.800 is saying
00:07:36.080 that
00:07:36.420 is saying
00:07:38.260 that
00:07:38.900 something
00:07:41.060 that the
00:07:41.620 president's
00:07:42.480 son
00:07:42.920 himself
00:07:44.240 released
00:07:45.500 wasn't
00:07:47.460 released
00:07:47.920 or wasn't
00:07:48.840 true.
00:07:51.460 Is
00:07:52.260 reporting
00:07:53.640 putting on
00:07:54.100 that
00:07:54.580 something
00:07:55.560 that is
00:07:56.120 a
00:07:56.320 verifiable
00:07:57.420 fact
00:07:58.180 that
00:08:00.080 what is
00:08:00.400 it?
00:08:00.600 45%
00:08:01.760 of
00:08:02.420 conservatives
00:08:03.180 don't believe
00:08:04.640 is a fact?
00:08:05.800 He released
00:08:06.940 it himself.
00:08:08.800 He released
00:08:09.740 it in
00:08:10.260 advance
00:08:11.140 because
00:08:12.020 the New York
00:08:13.180 Times was
00:08:13.800 coming out
00:08:14.360 six minutes
00:08:15.300 later.
00:08:15.720 I could
00:08:19.560 understand
00:08:19.960 if you
00:08:20.300 said
00:08:20.440 I don't
00:08:20.700 believe
00:08:20.920 the New
00:08:21.160 York
00:08:21.320 Times
00:08:21.580 but
00:08:21.780 now
00:08:22.020 you're
00:08:22.220 saying
00:08:22.500 that
00:08:22.720 something
00:08:23.100 that
00:08:24.020 Donald
00:08:24.540 Trump
00:08:24.920 Jr.
00:08:25.760 did
00:08:26.300 didn't
00:08:27.920 happen.
00:08:29.780 And if
00:08:30.500 it did
00:08:31.100 it was
00:08:31.560 fake.
00:08:32.540 Why
00:08:32.800 would
00:08:33.120 he
00:08:33.660 release
00:08:34.480 bad
00:08:35.500 information
00:08:36.260 about
00:08:36.900 him?
00:08:37.560 The
00:08:50.440 righteous
00:08:50.800 didn't
00:08:51.180 suddenly
00:08:51.520 become
00:08:51.940 righteous.
00:08:52.740 They
00:08:53.200 just
00:08:53.460 refused
00:08:53.860 to go
00:08:54.220 over
00:08:54.420 the
00:08:54.620 cliff
00:08:54.960 with
00:08:55.960 everyone
00:08:56.280 else.
00:08:59.880 So
00:09:00.560 how do
00:09:00.840 we solve
00:09:01.340 this
00:09:01.680 one?
00:09:05.340 Well
00:09:06.020 we have
00:09:06.960 to start
00:09:07.360 teaching
00:09:07.980 the
00:09:09.720 Constitution.
00:09:12.200 We have
00:09:12.960 to start
00:09:13.320 teaching
00:09:13.820 history.
00:09:16.860 And
00:09:17.380 I
00:09:18.400 thought
00:09:18.980 that we
00:09:20.360 needed to
00:09:21.060 spread it.
00:09:22.700 I thought
00:09:23.080 we needed
00:09:23.520 to get it
00:09:24.000 outside of
00:09:24.500 our own
00:09:24.840 circles but
00:09:25.500 we don't.
00:09:26.760 We need
00:09:27.360 to be
00:09:27.640 rock solid
00:09:28.240 in our
00:09:28.620 own
00:09:28.840 circles.
00:09:30.080 We need
00:09:30.780 to start
00:09:31.120 teaching
00:09:31.520 critical
00:09:32.000 thinking.
00:09:36.080 You know
00:09:36.700 the best
00:09:37.100 critical
00:09:37.440 thinker
00:09:37.980 I know
00:09:39.220 is a
00:09:39.780 guy who
00:09:40.500 grew up
00:09:43.400 with
00:09:43.580 Torah
00:09:43.820 studies.
00:09:45.940 I think
00:09:46.760 the best
00:09:47.300 critical
00:09:47.700 thinkers
00:09:48.160 honestly
00:09:49.080 are those
00:09:49.640 who went
00:09:50.020 through
00:09:50.280 Torah
00:09:50.700 studies.
00:09:51.160 Maybe we
00:09:51.840 should just
00:09:52.160 start teaching
00:09:52.720 the Torah.
00:09:53.220 that gets
00:09:59.020 your God
00:09:59.580 and your
00:10:00.660 critical
00:10:00.960 thinking.
00:10:08.840 We're
00:10:10.160 sicker
00:10:10.840 than we
00:10:13.360 presumed.
00:10:14.060 there was
00:10:21.360 a
00:10:21.620 there's a
00:10:22.880 quote
00:10:23.320 I've
00:10:24.160 been
00:10:24.740 saying it
00:10:25.720 lately
00:10:26.060 a lot
00:10:27.000 a friend
00:10:27.600 told it
00:10:27.960 to me
00:10:28.320 and I
00:10:30.960 can't
00:10:31.140 remember
00:10:31.360 who it
00:10:31.700 is
00:10:31.900 it's
00:10:32.200 it's
00:10:32.660 like
00:10:32.860 Xerxes
00:10:33.340 or
00:10:33.660 somebody
00:10:33.960 from
00:10:35.340 you know
00:10:35.800 a billion
00:10:36.180 years ago
00:10:36.720 some
00:10:37.440 Greek
00:10:37.900 and what
00:10:39.600 he said
00:10:40.020 was
00:10:40.540 in a
00:10:41.380 nutshell
00:10:41.680 people
00:10:43.460 don't
00:10:43.700 rise
00:10:43.980 to the
00:10:44.240 occasion
00:10:44.620 they
00:10:46.500 don't
00:10:46.640 rise
00:10:46.920 to the
00:10:47.200 level
00:10:47.420 of
00:10:47.580 expectations
00:10:48.200 they
00:10:49.020 don't
00:10:49.480 they
00:10:53.620 rise
00:10:54.240 to the
00:10:54.940 level
00:10:55.260 of their
00:10:55.820 preparedness
00:10:56.580 and
00:10:57.140 knowledge
00:10:57.600 now
00:11:01.280 think
00:11:01.500 of that
00:11:01.860 think
00:11:03.560 of all
00:11:04.040 of the
00:11:04.360 people
00:11:04.780 that
00:11:07.140 rose
00:11:07.980 to the
00:11:08.360 occasion
00:11:08.860 in the
00:11:09.640 darkest
00:11:10.120 hours
00:11:10.840 they
00:11:12.580 were
00:11:12.740 always
00:11:13.240 the
00:11:13.480 people
00:11:13.920 Abraham
00:11:15.020 Lincoln
00:11:15.440 who
00:11:16.380 had
00:11:16.620 gone
00:11:17.140 through
00:11:17.540 something
00:11:18.260 in
00:11:19.260 advance
00:11:19.860 and
00:11:20.320 really
00:11:20.880 prepared
00:11:21.900 themselves
00:11:22.600 knew
00:11:23.540 who
00:11:23.800 they
00:11:24.000 were
00:11:24.540 and
00:11:25.080 prepared
00:11:25.760 themselves
00:11:26.680 Corrie
00:11:31.000 Ten Boom
00:11:31.420 she
00:11:32.780 grew up
00:11:33.260 in a
00:11:33.480 family
00:11:33.780 that knew
00:11:34.180 exactly
00:11:34.920 what it
00:11:35.520 was
00:11:35.940 and her
00:11:36.440 father
00:11:36.840 prepared
00:11:37.920 the whole
00:11:38.580 family
00:11:39.120 for those
00:11:40.040 times
00:11:40.560 Dietrich
00:11:43.440 Bonhoeffer
00:11:44.120 that's
00:11:45.140 what he
00:11:45.400 did
00:11:45.700 for a
00:11:46.100 living
00:11:46.380 he
00:11:48.220 had
00:11:48.640 something
00:11:49.100 in him
00:11:49.820 that
00:11:50.680 allowed
00:11:51.480 him to
00:11:52.000 think
00:11:52.440 differently
00:11:53.060 and he
00:11:53.920 started to
00:11:54.500 think about
00:11:55.140 the future
00:11:55.720 and what
00:11:56.360 was coming
00:11:56.940 and before
00:11:57.940 it hit
00:11:58.480 he had
00:11:59.240 already
00:11:59.680 decided
00:12:00.280 I'm not
00:12:00.880 going there
00:12:01.380 I'm not
00:12:01.720 going there
00:12:02.200 I'm not
00:12:02.580 going there
00:12:03.040 what am
00:12:03.520 I going
00:12:03.840 to do
00:12:04.220 we are
00:12:10.580 we're
00:12:10.980 living
00:12:11.240 in a
00:12:11.500 time
00:12:11.740 right
00:12:11.920 now
00:12:12.120 where
00:12:12.360 people
00:12:14.220 are
00:12:14.680 struggling
00:12:15.660 and
00:12:17.160 it's
00:12:22.960 Maslow's
00:12:23.560 hierarchy
00:12:24.080 of
00:12:24.480 needs
00:12:26.160 and what's
00:12:28.000 on that
00:12:28.220 first base
00:12:29.040 can you
00:12:29.600 look
00:12:29.800 one of
00:12:30.060 those
00:12:30.200 one of
00:12:30.460 you guys
00:12:30.620 look this
00:12:30.960 up real
00:12:31.260 quick
00:12:31.500 Maslow's
00:12:33.300 law is
00:12:34.600 you know
00:12:35.380 the hierarchy
00:12:35.960 of needs
00:12:36.560 is
00:12:36.780 you know
00:12:38.900 I've got to
00:12:39.360 have food
00:12:39.940 and water
00:12:40.680 and shelter
00:12:41.880 protection
00:12:43.560 that's the
00:12:45.820 baseline
00:12:46.280 and you
00:12:48.500 it won't
00:12:49.200 allow you
00:12:50.240 to look
00:12:51.580 at anything
00:12:52.260 else
00:12:52.700 if you
00:12:54.180 don't have
00:12:54.660 that baseline
00:12:55.400 you don't
00:12:57.080 have the
00:12:57.680 privilege
00:12:58.440 of looking
00:12:59.560 toward anything
00:13:00.540 else
00:13:01.000 you have it
00:13:02.400 Pat
00:13:02.640 what is it
00:13:03.760 food
00:13:05.140 water
00:13:06.200 warmth
00:13:07.080 rest
00:13:07.760 basic needs
00:13:08.940 safety needs
00:13:10.100 security and
00:13:10.800 safety
00:13:11.100 that's the
00:13:11.880 next level
00:13:12.380 yeah
00:13:12.740 then after
00:13:14.460 that
00:13:14.760 belongingness
00:13:15.640 and love
00:13:16.200 needs
00:13:16.580 intimate
00:13:17.000 relationships
00:13:17.600 and friends
00:13:18.200 just above
00:13:19.620 that
00:13:19.880 esteem
00:13:20.380 needs
00:13:20.760 prestige
00:13:21.680 and feeling
00:13:22.680 of accomplishment
00:13:23.580 and then
00:13:24.380 at the top
00:13:25.040 self-actualization
00:13:26.320 achieving one's
00:13:27.460 full potential
00:13:28.000 including
00:13:28.440 creative
00:13:28.900 activities
00:13:29.240 how many
00:13:30.460 times do I
00:13:31.180 talk about
00:13:31.860 we're born
00:13:32.760 for
00:13:33.300 we're born
00:13:34.280 for
00:13:34.760 this time
00:13:36.260 that's
00:13:37.200 self-actualization
00:13:38.540 that is
00:13:39.260 what am I
00:13:40.300 here for
00:13:40.920 what is my
00:13:41.440 purpose
00:13:42.060 there are
00:13:43.280 so many
00:13:43.940 people
00:13:44.440 that are
00:13:44.980 down at
00:13:45.580 the bottom
00:13:46.120 all over
00:13:46.660 the world
00:13:47.260 that are
00:13:49.940 looking for
00:13:50.620 food
00:13:51.040 water
00:13:51.520 shelter
00:13:53.120 warmth
00:13:53.860 then
00:13:55.140 then
00:13:56.000 they're at
00:13:56.900 security
00:13:57.700 that could
00:13:59.460 be
00:13:59.780 jobs
00:14:00.660 that could
00:14:03.420 be I
00:14:03.900 need my
00:14:04.660 health care
00:14:05.220 so my
00:14:06.140 whole family
00:14:06.660 doesn't crater
00:14:07.560 I've got a
00:14:09.860 terminal illness
00:14:10.720 or I have
00:14:11.340 an illness
00:14:11.700 or my
00:14:12.080 son or
00:14:12.720 daughter
00:14:13.000 has an
00:14:13.420 illness
00:14:13.760 do you
00:14:15.820 think
00:14:16.100 Charlie
00:14:16.480 Gard's
00:14:17.000 parents
00:14:17.520 were thinking
00:14:20.340 in the last
00:14:20.900 six months
00:14:21.440 about
00:14:21.740 self-actualization
00:14:22.980 all they
00:14:24.760 were thinking
00:14:25.200 about
00:14:25.600 was saving
00:14:27.200 their child's
00:14:27.840 life
00:14:28.140 that's it
00:14:28.880 if you
00:14:34.840 have the
00:14:35.440 ability
00:14:35.900 now
00:14:36.340 to be
00:14:37.640 thinking
00:14:38.020 about
00:14:38.480 I'm
00:14:39.720 here for
00:14:40.200 a reason
00:14:40.780 you're
00:14:42.600 a lucky
00:14:43.480 one
00:14:43.860 and you're
00:14:45.020 going to
00:14:45.240 become
00:14:45.540 more rare
00:14:46.300 you
00:14:48.160 have to
00:14:49.320 now say
00:14:50.220 who am
00:14:51.100 I going
00:14:51.780 to be
00:14:52.420 when the
00:14:53.180 time gets
00:14:53.920 trouble for
00:14:55.020 me and
00:14:55.380 it's not
00:14:55.980 enough
00:14:56.480 just to
00:14:57.320 think about
00:14:57.800 it
00:14:58.000 you
00:14:58.460 actually
00:14:58.980 have to
00:14:59.440 prepare
00:15:00.040 for it
00:15:00.640 and while
00:15:04.940 you're doing
00:15:05.380 that we
00:15:06.160 have to go
00:15:06.780 help the
00:15:07.780 people at
00:15:08.420 the bottom
00:15:09.160 the people
00:15:10.500 who don't
00:15:11.180 have the
00:15:11.880 ability now
00:15:12.860 to think
00:15:13.980 beyond
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00:15:16.060 I'll do
00:15:17.080 whatever I
00:15:17.560 have to do
00:15:18.080 the media
00:15:18.580 has got to
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00:15:19.640 because we've
00:15:20.340 got to get
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00:15:21.600 they can't
00:15:26.260 see past
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00:17:09.540 mercury
00:17:11.340 you're
00:17:14.740 listening to
00:17:15.300 the glenn
00:17:15.720 beck
00:17:15.980 program
00:17:16.560 so here
00:17:22.180 we are
00:17:22.780 45% of
00:17:25.680 republicans
00:17:26.340 are now
00:17:26.800 saying
00:17:27.280 that
00:17:28.260 that the
00:17:30.920 judges
00:17:31.340 should be
00:17:32.260 able to
00:17:32.700 say that
00:17:34.060 newspaper
00:17:34.600 needs to
00:17:35.120 be shut
00:17:35.520 down or
00:17:36.300 that television
00:17:37.560 network needs
00:17:38.300 to be shut
00:17:38.840 down or
00:17:39.360 that reporter
00:17:40.040 needs to be
00:17:40.600 shut down
00:17:41.060 because
00:17:41.440 they're either
00:17:42.460 too biased
00:17:43.520 or
00:17:45.220 they're not
00:17:46.420 telling the
00:17:46.900 truth
00:17:47.220 and did you
00:17:48.080 see it was
00:17:48.440 only 18%
00:17:49.300 of democrats
00:17:49.900 want the
00:17:50.420 same thing
00:17:50.820 if the
00:17:52.400 chairs would
00:17:53.000 have been
00:17:53.360 flipped
00:17:53.700 had you
00:17:54.780 asked that
00:17:55.240 question
00:17:55.860 when fox
00:17:59.280 news was
00:18:00.260 at its
00:18:00.940 height
00:18:01.260 oh my gosh
00:18:02.000 it would
00:18:02.240 have been
00:18:02.420 80%
00:18:03.060 we're just
00:18:05.760 switching
00:18:06.040 chairs
00:18:06.360 it just
00:18:06.860 depends on
00:18:07.300 who's
00:18:07.480 in power
00:18:08.500 and that
00:18:09.000 is the
00:18:10.060 secret of
00:18:10.720 recognition
00:18:11.280 of the
00:18:11.940 first
00:18:12.180 amendment
00:18:12.540 the only
00:18:14.120 the
00:18:15.080 voice that
00:18:18.280 people don't
00:18:19.120 want to
00:18:19.440 hear
00:18:19.640 that the
00:18:20.080 bullies
00:18:20.700 don't want
00:18:21.260 to hear
00:18:21.620 those are
00:18:23.200 the ones
00:18:23.560 that you
00:18:24.460 have to
00:18:24.780 protect
00:18:25.160 the one
00:18:26.060 that majority
00:18:26.640 says is
00:18:27.140 fine
00:18:27.520 doesn't
00:18:28.280 matter
00:18:28.580 you have
00:18:29.760 to protect
00:18:30.180 the voice
00:18:30.560 that nobody
00:18:31.100 wants to
00:18:31.620 hear
00:18:31.900 and that's
00:18:33.020 the thing
00:18:33.280 43%
00:18:34.520 a plurality
00:18:35.240 of the
00:18:35.900 population
00:18:36.460 hasn't
00:18:37.320 heard enough
00:18:37.980 to form
00:18:38.540 an opinion
00:18:39.020 yet about
00:18:39.880 whether the
00:18:40.300 state should
00:18:40.660 be allowed
00:18:41.000 to target
00:18:41.400 news outlets
00:18:41.940 for closure
00:18:42.480 you haven't
00:18:43.540 heard enough
00:18:44.020 I mean it
00:18:45.240 was the
00:18:45.820 1700s we're
00:18:46.820 talking about
00:18:47.360 here
00:18:47.520 they don't
00:18:47.920 know that
00:18:48.380 no I know
00:18:49.160 and that's
00:18:49.480 the problem
00:18:49.880 right
00:18:50.060 and the fact
00:18:50.960 that they're
00:18:51.220 switching
00:18:51.560 is a very
00:18:53.740 human instinct
00:18:54.500 we can
00:18:54.960 criticize it
00:18:55.520 all we want
00:18:56.000 and it should
00:18:57.100 be criticized
00:18:57.600 but it's
00:18:58.080 very human
00:18:58.760 unless you
00:18:59.380 have a
00:19:00.200 foundational
00:19:00.800 principle
00:19:01.340 that you're
00:19:01.660 acting on
00:19:02.160 unless there's
00:19:02.800 something guiding
00:19:03.480 you other
00:19:03.960 than what
00:19:04.680 feels good
00:19:05.100 at this
00:19:05.360 moment
00:19:05.620 correct
00:19:05.920 and understanding
00:19:07.440 you know
00:19:08.180 look
00:19:09.000 here's the
00:19:10.220 problem
00:19:10.560 and we've
00:19:12.440 engaged in
00:19:12.960 this
00:19:13.200 I can give
00:19:13.960 you this
00:19:14.180 story
00:19:14.460 MTV
00:19:15.020 moon man
00:19:15.700 gets a
00:19:16.160 new PC
00:19:16.680 name
00:19:17.100 okay
00:19:17.920 the new
00:19:18.540 MTV
00:19:19.480 award
00:19:19.940 it's no
00:19:20.900 longer a
00:19:21.280 moon man
00:19:21.680 it's a
00:19:22.060 moon person
00:19:22.640 it can't
00:19:24.520 be real
00:19:25.040 no it
00:19:25.440 is real
00:19:26.000 it's real
00:19:26.600 it's real
00:19:27.280 variety
00:19:27.540 is reporting
00:19:28.200 it
00:19:28.520 yeah
00:19:28.740 so
00:19:29.260 it's real
00:19:30.660 it's a
00:19:31.040 moon person
00:19:31.520 now think
00:19:32.360 of the
00:19:32.840 cheers
00:19:33.360 that went
00:19:34.260 up for
00:19:34.880 the people
00:19:35.380 who tried
00:19:35.880 to get
00:19:36.240 MTV to
00:19:37.040 change that
00:19:37.560 to a
00:19:37.860 moon person
00:19:38.400 oh yeah
00:19:39.180 now think
00:19:39.920 of how
00:19:40.820 ridiculous
00:19:42.080 their life
00:19:42.960 is
00:19:43.340 that they
00:19:43.900 think that
00:19:44.620 that actually
00:19:45.740 makes a
00:19:46.440 difference
00:19:46.880 that's the
00:19:49.340 problem
00:19:49.780 we're
00:19:50.720 what
00:19:51.620 what we
00:19:52.580 would normally
00:19:53.120 do is
00:19:53.620 mock those
00:19:54.320 people and
00:19:55.000 ridicule them
00:19:55.620 like crazy
00:19:56.320 where does
00:19:57.860 that get
00:19:58.280 us
00:19:58.660 where does
00:19:59.880 this get
00:20:00.280 the moon
00:20:00.700 man
00:20:01.060 who cares
00:20:02.900 who cares
00:20:04.640 we need
00:20:06.240 to talk
00:20:06.620 about issues
00:20:07.280 that actually
00:20:08.340 impact
00:20:09.880 people
00:20:10.420 and
00:20:12.340 usually
00:20:13.340 those revolve
00:20:14.200 around the
00:20:14.620 constitution
00:20:15.360 and basic
00:20:16.600 needs
00:20:17.100 you're listening
00:20:19.140 to the
00:20:19.520 Glenn Beck
00:20:20.000 program
00:20:20.660 mercury
00:20:23.340 the Glenn Beck
00:20:27.600 program
00:20:28.360 it was
00:20:28.940 March 20th
00:20:29.900 1854
00:20:30.800 and it
00:20:32.580 happened in
00:20:33.340 Rippon
00:20:33.880 Wisconsin
00:20:34.700 any idea
00:20:36.680 what it
00:20:36.940 was
00:20:37.260 1854
00:20:38.600 March 20th
00:20:39.540 Rippon
00:20:39.900 Wisconsin
00:20:40.440 huge
00:20:41.720 made a
00:20:42.580 massive
00:20:43.320 impact on
00:20:44.120 our country
00:20:44.580 what was it
00:20:45.300 can you
00:20:45.920 give us
00:20:46.800 any more
00:20:47.420 detail
00:20:47.780 March 20th
00:20:48.980 1854
00:20:49.760 Rippon
00:20:50.540 Wisconsin
00:20:51.060 could be a lot
00:20:52.020 of things
00:20:52.480 huge
00:20:53.040 I bet a lot
00:20:53.800 of things
00:20:54.140 happened that
00:20:54.600 day
00:20:54.860 the Gatling
00:20:55.620 gun was
00:20:55.980 invented
00:20:56.280 I'm gonna
00:20:57.520 say
00:20:58.140 a first
00:21:00.700 and only
00:21:01.460 was born
00:21:02.580 no first
00:21:03.280 and only
00:21:03.920 happened
00:21:04.380 there
00:21:04.720 this is the
00:21:05.660 first time
00:21:06.400 and only
00:21:07.020 time
00:21:07.420 something
00:21:07.940 happened
00:21:08.400 that was
00:21:08.820 successful
00:21:09.480 and it's
00:21:10.940 still around
00:21:11.600 today
00:21:12.060 and impacts
00:21:12.880 our life
00:21:14.260 and not
00:21:15.660 Jeffy's
00:21:16.060 and we're
00:21:16.980 about
00:21:17.320 1884
00:21:18.740 and we are
00:21:19.820 currently
00:21:20.720 at a new
00:21:22.020 crossroads
00:21:22.860 exactly the
00:21:23.900 way we were
00:21:24.380 at 1854
00:21:25.220 that this
00:21:27.780 solved
00:21:28.440 last time
00:21:29.320 and now
00:21:29.880 it is the
00:21:30.340 problem
00:21:30.880 or one of
00:21:32.200 them
00:21:32.440 the GOP
00:21:33.160 yes
00:21:33.680 the GOP
00:21:35.420 the very
00:21:36.460 first time
00:21:37.240 and only
00:21:37.880 time a
00:21:38.460 third party
00:21:39.140 was a
00:21:39.920 third
00:21:40.260 successful
00:21:41.300 party
00:21:41.860 was born
00:21:43.000 and it
00:21:44.920 stood
00:21:45.660 against the
00:21:46.940 quote
00:21:47.260 twin
00:21:48.460 relics
00:21:49.700 of
00:21:50.980 barbarism
00:21:51.780 sure
00:21:54.380 doesn't do
00:21:54.780 that
00:21:54.920 anymore
00:21:55.520 does it
00:21:56.360 you
00:21:56.960 couldn't
00:21:57.480 say
00:21:57.740 that the
00:21:58.180 GOP
00:21:58.580 stands
00:21:58.920 against
00:21:59.340 no
00:22:00.160 it is
00:22:00.480 a
00:22:00.680 relic
00:22:01.060 okay
00:22:02.380 so here
00:22:02.780 were the
00:22:03.100 twin
00:22:04.260 relics
00:22:04.680 of
00:22:04.840 barbarism
00:22:05.380 slavery
00:22:06.280 and
00:22:07.260 polygamy
00:22:07.800 wow
00:22:09.000 those
00:22:09.660 were the
00:22:09.920 two
00:22:10.240 twins
00:22:10.840 that
00:22:11.500 congress
00:22:12.020 would not
00:22:12.660 take
00:22:13.020 seriously
00:22:13.800 bizarre
00:22:16.940 didn't
00:22:17.720 know that
00:22:18.100 did not
00:22:18.640 know that
00:22:19.040 about
00:22:19.440 I didn't
00:22:20.740 know that
00:22:21.020 polygamy
00:22:21.460 in 1854
00:22:22.600 no
00:22:23.040 I guess
00:22:24.280 maybe because
00:22:24.840 slavery was
00:22:25.780 so much
00:22:26.200 bigger
00:22:26.660 yeah
00:22:27.200 but congress
00:22:28.020 wouldn't
00:22:28.980 do
00:22:29.380 anything
00:22:30.340 now
00:22:32.260 here we are
00:22:33.520 again
00:22:33.940 we have
00:22:36.540 our twin
00:22:38.860 relics
00:22:39.460 of
00:22:40.000 barbary
00:22:40.540 I would
00:22:42.880 say
00:22:43.520 spending
00:22:45.180 and
00:22:45.540 corruption
00:22:46.020 what would
00:22:50.420 they be
00:22:50.700 today
00:22:51.040 war
00:22:54.580 and
00:22:54.880 corruption
00:22:55.380 there's so
00:22:58.100 many things
00:22:58.640 now
00:22:58.880 the end
00:22:59.540 of the
00:22:59.780 constitution
00:23:00.540 and
00:23:01.500 spending
00:23:02.200 what is
00:23:02.820 it
00:23:03.800 I think
00:23:04.600 it's
00:23:04.800 corruption
00:23:05.300 I mean
00:23:06.000 corruption
00:23:06.540 has to be
00:23:07.120 one of
00:23:07.500 them
00:23:07.720 you're only
00:23:08.360 making it
00:23:08.740 two
00:23:08.940 because it
00:23:09.240 was two
00:23:09.620 back then
00:23:10.120 it doesn't
00:23:10.480 mean it's
00:23:10.700 two now
00:23:11.160 yeah
00:23:11.380 no I
00:23:11.760 know
00:23:11.940 but I
00:23:13.420 think we
00:23:13.720 could probably
00:23:14.220 boil that
00:23:14.760 down and
00:23:15.200 it would
00:23:15.400 probably
00:23:15.720 come down
00:23:16.360 to
00:23:16.660 just a
00:23:17.480 couple
00:23:17.700 of
00:23:17.860 things
00:23:18.260 that are
00:23:19.380 the real
00:23:19.800 problem
00:23:20.280 here
00:23:20.620 now
00:23:22.360 third
00:23:23.160 party
00:23:23.580 if a
00:23:24.340 third
00:23:24.580 party
00:23:24.880 were to
00:23:25.200 start
00:23:25.460 today
00:23:25.980 it would
00:23:27.320 have to
00:23:27.900 do
00:23:28.280 what the
00:23:29.060 third
00:23:29.320 party
00:23:29.640 did
00:23:30.120 in
00:23:30.400 1854
00:23:31.160 and that
00:23:31.720 is
00:23:32.060 eliminate
00:23:32.960 one of
00:23:34.360 the
00:23:34.520 parties
00:23:34.920 it would
00:23:36.480 have to
00:23:36.900 eliminate
00:23:37.380 either the
00:23:38.620 democrats
00:23:38.960 or the
00:23:39.520 republicans
00:23:40.200 because
00:23:40.540 right now
00:23:41.180 we all
00:23:41.620 know that
00:23:42.020 the
00:23:42.140 republican
00:23:42.560 party
00:23:43.000 and the
00:23:43.380 democratic
00:23:43.740 party
00:23:44.120 are
00:23:44.700 beginning
00:23:45.120 to fuse
00:23:45.860 into
00:23:46.120 one
00:23:46.540 I mean
00:23:47.420 you know
00:23:48.120 tell me
00:23:48.740 the difference
00:23:49.560 between
00:23:50.200 the health
00:23:51.060 sides of
00:23:51.500 the same
00:23:51.780 coin
00:23:52.080 yeah
00:23:52.420 tell me
00:23:52.820 the difference
00:23:53.220 between
00:23:53.480 the healthcare
00:23:54.020 debate
00:23:54.560 that the
00:23:54.920 republicans
00:23:55.540 just had
00:23:56.120 and the
00:23:56.740 healthcare
00:23:57.040 debate
00:23:57.500 that the
00:23:58.020 democrats
00:23:58.520 had
00:23:58.860 except
00:23:59.340 the
00:23:59.540 democrats
00:23:59.940 were
00:24:00.160 successful
00:24:00.620 tell me
00:24:02.160 the
00:24:02.280 difference
00:24:02.540 there
00:24:02.800 is
00:24:02.960 no
00:24:03.120 difference
00:24:03.520 okay
00:24:04.540 tell me
00:24:05.100 the
00:24:05.220 difference
00:24:05.500 between
00:24:05.840 winning
00:24:06.200 right
00:24:06.520 I mean
00:24:06.780 that's
00:24:07.040 that's
00:24:07.200 the
00:24:07.340 difference
00:24:07.700 tell me
00:24:08.040 the
00:24:08.180 difference
00:24:08.540 between
00:24:09.000 the
00:24:09.460 spending
00:24:10.040 habits
00:24:10.620 of
00:24:11.280 the
00:24:11.460 democrats
00:24:12.060 and
00:24:12.460 the
00:24:12.600 republicans
00:24:13.200 no
00:24:13.340 difference
00:24:13.640 none
00:24:14.160 the
00:24:15.120 tax
00:24:15.520 plans
00:24:15.980 between
00:24:17.420 and the democrats well we'll see but yeah relatively no difference i mean they're they're
00:24:24.240 within 10 points of each other i mean steve bannon pitch is exactly the pitch we've been
00:24:28.120 getting from democrats tax the rich 10 years tax the rich more lower it on lower on lower
00:24:33.160 brackets paul ryan did say however they're going to stick the landing on tax reform oh good yeah
00:24:38.180 we're all set good good good good so we got that going for us they're going to stick the landing
00:24:42.640 okay so now here's the problem conservative principles have not become about the free market
00:24:51.980 conservative principles have been have been have become nothing more than we will save fill in the
00:25:02.680 blank and it's not even the western way of life it's not even the constitution
00:25:09.560 it's it's really none of those things tell me the difference between the republicans and the
00:25:15.380 democrats on education
00:25:16.920 they both were for common core yeah they were yeah i mean they're both going down the same
00:25:27.340 so they're not saving the republic they're not saving our history what are they conserving
00:25:34.020 they seem to me to be conserving their own job more than anything else their own power
00:25:42.180 because they don't think conservative ideas are popular and conservative style i mean what is
00:25:52.140 conservative style what it what is that the conservative what what's popular about being a conservative
00:25:59.020 zero
00:26:00.320 now what's hurting the conservative movement is the fact that conservatives are saying generally i will
00:26:10.340 save your job well you can't save jobs in the era of globalization well that's why i'm against
00:26:18.380 globalization well you can be against globalization all you want it's kind of like being against air
00:26:26.280 what happened is the conservative sorry the the free market adam smith ideas that america
00:26:39.200 unleashed on the world have taken off all over the world and so now entrepreneurs through another
00:26:48.600 american invention the internet are growing everywhere and they're growing in the community
00:26:55.980 of where they where those entrepreneurs are and those natural resources we don't have to take
00:27:03.340 the natural resources from the jungle anymore and ship them over here to be made they can be made there
00:27:08.820 by the people who live there and they can be shipped to us i can find a cricket bat online i don't have to go
00:27:19.160 to great britain i don't have to go and call people who happen to be from great britain or india and say
00:27:27.100 hey dude makes cricket bat i can go online go online right now jeffy find out where i can buy a cricket bat
00:27:33.000 let's see how long it takes i'm guessing you could go to academy sports and buy a cricket bat okay i mean
00:27:39.080 how crazy is this world now yeah that's good it is good 79.99 okay unbelievable you'll see if you can find
00:27:49.440 see if you can find a uh an authentic english or indian cricket bat made who makes the best well there's
00:27:58.000 the cricket store online the entire cricket store online look at this look at this that's globalization
00:28:06.100 globalization and that is good that's good globalist listen to this globalist right here
00:28:14.940 globalization has brought the benefits of capitalism to the entire world to places where international
00:28:24.020 trade had never ever been known now it's local entrepreneurship for them capitalism for them
00:28:32.460 and capitalism for us and there are no barriers that's all good where it gets bad
00:28:40.240 is where governments and corporations begin to get involved now this also means that we have for the
00:28:49.840 last hundred years had capitalism and had the resources we are full of more resources than any other space
00:28:58.200 on the planet we have the cheapest energy on the planet or did we had the most stable government
00:29:07.080 on the planet or did
00:29:09.000 as our resources like stability and energy begin to dry up others are going to be more competitive
00:29:18.680 as we have said okay i want a better life i want more time off i want this i want that
00:29:26.360 i want a higher salary i want more pension those people who were just like us a hundred years ago they're
00:29:33.180 like i don't need any of that i just i just want to create i'd like to be able to eat and to feed my
00:29:39.980 family of course they're going to come up with something and they're going to try to sell it to us
00:29:44.480 and of course we're going to buy it because it'll be cheaper
00:29:47.100 if you don't like globalization do not buy anything at walmart or target or any place that sells things
00:29:58.820 cheaply because they're getting it from other parts of the world that can make those things cheaper
00:30:06.840 the conservative movement has become that an obstacle to that
00:30:14.940 we were in an exclusive club we're not in that club anymore
00:30:21.620 it's not avoidable and it's also not reversible
00:30:28.500 that doesn't mean we're going to like it
00:30:32.880 we don't
00:30:35.820 people won't like it people won't like it when it's happening to their country in reverse
00:30:41.820 so now we need a party that is actually going to do what
00:30:49.940 well make us more competitive by balancing the budget in a responsible way
00:30:56.320 but where's the constituency for that
00:30:59.320 reforming entitlements these are going to kill us and cripple us and then we will not be competitive
00:31:09.480 at all in fact our children will be slaves to whoever has taken the title from america
00:31:16.160 where's the constituency for that
00:31:19.000 they're too young to vote
00:31:22.600 where's the constituency for actually shutting down the education system that we have
00:31:31.640 we all know it doesn't work we all know
00:31:33.860 republicans and democrats we all know
00:31:36.460 but what we won't do is actually
00:31:39.280 do anything about it
00:31:41.960 because of labor unions
00:31:43.820 because many of us are paralyzed
00:31:47.880 because we don't know
00:31:49.840 because many of us are too busy
00:31:52.820 to actually get involved
00:31:54.780 in things like that
00:31:56.460 the parties
00:32:02.300 are craven
00:32:03.660 they're cowardly
00:32:07.740 they're corrupt
00:32:09.780 but the main
00:32:12.800 problem
00:32:13.680 with developing a third party
00:32:16.920 and doing what happened in 1854
00:32:19.640 which saved the republic
00:32:21.140 when we got to this position
00:32:23.500 what saved the republic
00:32:25.340 was 20 people who got together from both sides of the aisle
00:32:29.820 wigs and democrats
00:32:31.260 mainly wigs
00:32:32.220 and said neither party is serious about solving this slavery thing
00:32:37.660 i'm out
00:32:39.160 but there was enough people that wanted an end to slavery
00:32:45.120 are there enough people
00:32:48.400 that want what the conservative movement is selling
00:32:54.400 if you want to fix america conservatives
00:33:00.360 you first need to figure out
00:33:03.460 a way to explain to america
00:33:06.700 why they should want that
00:33:09.280 that's not going to be easy
00:33:14.780 but when we come to the table
00:33:22.240 and not mockery
00:33:23.700 not lies
00:33:25.520 not campaign promises
00:33:28.080 that will always be broken
00:33:29.720 but with real true vision
00:33:32.540 of what america can be
00:33:34.380 what america was
00:33:35.840 and what it's going to be
00:33:37.380 not again
00:33:38.100 but what it's going to be
00:33:39.660 in a new era
00:33:41.260 and why these tough steps
00:33:45.060 are really important
00:33:46.340 and they will affect you
00:33:47.820 in a positive way
00:33:49.360 and why you want them
00:33:50.960 when we hit that
00:33:53.160 we'll begin to win
00:33:55.780 and quite honestly
00:33:57.700 we'll deserve to win
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00:35:40.800 by the way
00:35:41.440 Joel Osteen
00:35:43.940 did not see this coming
00:35:45.540 and I don't know
00:35:47.060 how this is going to affect
00:35:48.140 I don't think anybody
00:35:49.200 saw this coming
00:35:49.820 I don't think so either
00:35:50.720 some big news
00:35:52.640 Vicki Osteen
00:35:53.700 is leaving
00:35:55.220 the Lakewood Church
00:35:56.240 to start
00:35:58.060 her own
00:35:59.060 facial cream business
00:36:00.340 oh my gosh
00:36:01.100 really?
00:36:01.780 she can't do both
00:36:02.620 of those together?
00:36:03.400 no
00:36:03.660 no
00:36:04.060 well she kept it
00:36:05.520 under wraps
00:36:05.920 and she was doing
00:36:06.600 them together
00:36:07.040 for a while
00:36:07.680 but it's become
00:36:08.840 so successful
00:36:10.440 that she doesn't
00:36:11.620 want the company
00:36:12.920 to be associated
00:36:13.680 with Lakewood Church
00:36:14.520 so now she's
00:36:15.500 got to leave
00:36:15.940 there's nothing
00:36:16.680 offensive
00:36:17.200 there's nothing
00:36:18.360 offensive
00:36:18.880 about this ad
00:36:20.480 with her
00:36:22.620 there's nothing
00:36:23.380 that's harmful
00:36:24.320 detrimental
00:36:25.200 to her
00:36:26.420 her husband
00:36:27.200 Lakewood Church
00:36:28.380 you know
00:36:29.000 same thing
00:36:29.680 with Chip
00:36:30.720 and Joanna
00:36:31.260 nothing
00:36:31.960 I think
00:36:33.820 these lies
00:36:34.440 these face cream
00:36:35.840 lies
00:36:36.180 I think
00:36:37.040 they're fine
00:36:37.740 oh they're great
00:36:38.600 we would have
00:36:39.520 never known
00:36:40.040 had she not
00:36:40.800 had been asked
00:36:42.200 a separate question
00:36:43.100 from that same
00:36:43.780 reporter
00:36:44.260 was it the same
00:36:45.220 reporter
00:36:45.640 he went off script
00:36:46.400 did that same
00:36:47.140 reporter go off
00:36:47.780 script again
00:36:48.340 and nobody
00:36:49.140 knew about it
00:36:49.840 no one knew
00:36:50.340 until they asked
00:36:51.000 that question
00:36:52.120 and now
00:36:52.820 it's coming
00:36:53.620 as a big shock
00:36:54.760 to a lot of people
00:36:55.720 I'm thinking
00:36:56.460 Vicky as well
00:36:57.540 yeah
00:36:57.940 probably is a surprise
00:36:59.700 to her
00:37:00.040 big shock
00:37:01.760 to her
00:37:02.440 as well
00:37:03.720 so incredible
00:37:04.020 that they continue
00:37:04.740 to get away with this
00:37:05.740 yeah
00:37:06.200 yeah
00:37:07.000 hey the Al Gore movie
00:37:08.400 came out this weekend
00:37:09.320 I know we all went
00:37:10.180 to see it
00:37:10.740 oh man
00:37:11.260 we have an update
00:37:11.940 on that
00:37:12.520 and so much more
00:37:13.660 coming up
00:37:14.100 this is
00:37:15.320 the Glenn Beck
00:37:16.940 program
00:37:17.740 Mercury
00:37:19.160 The Blaze Radio Network
00:37:35.080 On Demand
00:37:38.980 so Al Gore's got a new
00:37:42.960 movie out
00:37:43.680 yay
00:37:44.400 oh it sounds like
00:37:46.600 an Oscar winner
00:37:47.240 already
00:37:47.780 it's an
00:37:48.760 inconvenient sequel
00:37:50.160 it was open
00:37:51.220 in some cities
00:37:52.300 limited release
00:37:53.180 it's coming to a
00:37:54.020 theater near you
00:37:54.780 soon enough
00:37:55.440 this is
00:37:57.480 this is where
00:37:59.440 he's showing us
00:38:00.420 yeah
00:38:00.740 I mean
00:38:01.900 a lot of the things
00:38:02.800 that I said
00:38:03.280 in fact almost all
00:38:04.220 the things I said
00:38:04.880 in the last movie
00:38:05.620 didn't come true
00:38:06.280 but that's because
00:38:07.480 we have
00:38:08.440 you know
00:38:09.280 renewable
00:38:10.940 100%
00:38:12.360 renewable cities
00:38:13.420 like Georgetown
00:38:14.440 Texas
00:38:15.060 wow
00:38:17.060 really
00:38:17.720 we'll find out
00:38:19.060 about Georgetown
00:38:19.700 Texas here in a second
00:38:21.000 we have
00:38:22.260 Alex Epstein
00:38:23.340 in with us
00:38:24.200 Epstein
00:38:24.600 he is the author
00:38:25.760 of the book
00:38:26.300 The Moral Case
00:38:27.700 for Fossil Fuels
00:38:29.060 he also is with
00:38:30.980 the Cato Institute
00:38:31.920 for those of you
00:38:34.340 the 45%
00:38:36.120 of Republicans
00:38:37.000 that think
00:38:37.780 that we should
00:38:38.660 have a judge
00:38:41.080 decide
00:38:41.880 which media
00:38:42.820 outlets
00:38:43.500 can stay on
00:38:44.600 because of their
00:38:45.660 their lies
00:38:46.960 or their bias
00:38:48.160 be careful
00:38:50.300 because the minute
00:38:51.740 you lose control
00:38:53.360 and the other side
00:38:54.560 loses control
00:38:55.560 this hour
00:38:56.760 would be
00:38:57.540 completely
00:38:58.480 and immediately
00:39:00.200 banned
00:39:01.020 the inconvenient
00:39:03.780 sequel
00:39:04.520 with the really
00:39:06.720 easy truth
00:39:07.920 begins right now
00:39:09.300 I will make
00:39:11.480 a stand
00:39:12.420 I will raise
00:39:13.640 my voice
00:39:14.760 I will hold
00:39:15.820 your hand
00:39:16.960 cause we are one
00:39:18.920 I will beat
00:39:20.120 my drum
00:39:21.120 I have made
00:39:22.340 my choice
00:39:23.340 we will overcome
00:39:25.060 cause we are one
00:39:27.660 the fusion
00:39:28.640 of entertainment
00:39:29.680 and enlightenment
00:39:30.900 this is
00:39:32.440 the Glenn
00:39:33.280 Beck
00:39:34.300 program
00:39:35.440 welcome to the program
00:39:38.140 Alex
00:39:38.460 I am
00:39:38.940 I'm happy to say
00:39:40.420 I did not go
00:39:41.640 to the
00:39:42.200 to the
00:39:43.180 opening weekend
00:39:44.420 of Al Gore's
00:39:45.300 new movie
00:39:46.100 I'm sure
00:39:47.140 people were
00:39:47.740 beating a path
00:39:48.660 to its door
00:39:49.400 to see all of the truth
00:39:51.520 did he address
00:39:54.060 in the movie
00:39:54.860 Alex at all
00:39:55.820 the idea
00:39:58.420 that almost
00:39:59.580 everything he said
00:40:00.260 in the last movie
00:40:00.840 was wrong
00:40:01.260 this is probably
00:40:04.400 going to surprise
00:40:05.320 you
00:40:05.680 but his central
00:40:07.340 claim
00:40:07.940 is that he was
00:40:09.120 even more right
00:40:10.060 than he thought
00:40:10.760 wow
00:40:11.640 what a surprise
00:40:12.760 really
00:40:13.420 I love that
00:40:14.240 really
00:40:14.620 how
00:40:15.360 how
00:40:15.860 how exactly
00:40:17.280 was he right
00:40:18.300 well
00:40:21.300 one thing that he does
00:40:22.480 is with some of the
00:40:23.260 specific predictions
00:40:24.640 such as the 20 foot
00:40:26.120 rise in sea levels
00:40:27.180 he acknowledges them
00:40:29.640 at the beginning
00:40:30.300 and then
00:40:31.800 makes some other
00:40:32.780 points
00:40:33.320 and then
00:40:34.280 pretends that
00:40:35.000 they've been
00:40:35.400 acknowledged
00:40:35.840 and that he's been
00:40:36.820 vindicated
00:40:37.640 so one of them
00:40:38.340 is I guess
00:40:38.880 clever
00:40:39.280 for that reason
00:40:41.020 to acknowledge
00:40:41.900 and then to act
00:40:42.760 like you've dealt
00:40:43.340 with them
00:40:43.740 which is
00:40:45.240 more powerful
00:40:45.920 than I guess
00:40:46.340 not dealing
00:40:47.400 with them
00:40:47.880 or not
00:40:48.380 acknowledging them
00:40:49.520 but I think
00:40:50.500 it's important
00:40:51.000 the central narrative
00:40:52.220 of the movie
00:40:53.240 is that
00:40:54.580 A
00:40:55.120 you indicated this
00:40:56.260 before
00:40:56.540 at the Georgetown
00:40:57.120 renewables
00:40:58.700 are taking over
00:40:59.980 the energy world
00:41:01.340 so fossil fuels
00:41:02.020 are no longer
00:41:02.440 necessary
00:41:02.900 and B
00:41:04.220 climate
00:41:05.240 is more dangerous
00:41:06.900 than ever
00:41:07.380 those are the two threads
00:41:08.680 and he says
00:41:09.560 rightly
00:41:10.060 that those
00:41:11.140 are the two threads
00:41:11.960 of the first movie
00:41:12.700 so a lot of it
00:41:13.740 hinges on
00:41:14.360 are those two
00:41:15.200 claims true
00:41:16.040 and they're not
00:41:17.300 okay well
00:41:17.920 take me to the
00:41:18.880 the 100%
00:41:20.660 renewable city
00:41:21.680 like Georgetown
00:41:22.700 Texas
00:41:23.220 so you see
00:41:27.380 a really
00:41:27.700 interesting image
00:41:28.720 because you see
00:41:29.480 this very
00:41:29.900 self-satisfied
00:41:30.900 mayor
00:41:31.480 and board
00:41:31.920 is very happy
00:41:32.640 because this
00:41:33.020 is allegedly
00:41:33.520 the reddest
00:41:34.140 county
00:41:34.600 and the reddest
00:41:35.200 city
00:41:35.560 and the reddest
00:41:36.180 state
00:41:36.560 and the reddest
00:41:36.940 country
00:41:37.200 blah blah blah
00:41:37.720 blah blah
00:41:37.880 right
00:41:38.580 and they're
00:41:39.000 using 100%
00:41:39.780 renewable
00:41:40.120 now the first
00:41:41.120 thing you see
00:41:41.860 if you're
00:41:42.480 a serious
00:41:43.100 viewer
00:41:43.480 is just a
00:41:44.520 lot full
00:41:45.240 of gasoline
00:41:46.020 cars
00:41:46.580 this should
00:41:48.580 this should
00:41:49.140 and they say
00:41:49.480 renewable energy
00:41:50.640 not renewable
00:41:51.500 electricity
00:41:52.540 so this should
00:41:53.000 be a giveaway
00:41:54.480 and then more
00:41:54.980 broadly I think
00:41:55.620 if you think
00:41:56.620 about it
00:41:57.140 you should know
00:41:57.980 that well
00:41:58.240 solar and wind
00:41:58.920 are unreliable
00:41:59.900 sources
00:42:00.460 the proper name
00:42:01.560 for them
00:42:01.780 is not
00:42:02.020 renewables
00:42:02.620 it's unreliables
00:42:03.820 so how
00:42:06.080 how is the
00:42:06.800 whole town
00:42:07.280 going to be
00:42:07.740 powered at night
00:42:08.600 and in different
00:42:09.180 weather conditions
00:42:09.880 that should be
00:42:10.980 suspicious
00:42:11.400 and they should
00:42:11.880 at least give
00:42:12.540 you an explanation
00:42:13.420 if such a
00:42:14.320 magical feat
00:42:14.960 is to be
00:42:15.380 pulled off
00:42:15.940 but that
00:42:16.560 doesn't happen
00:42:17.020 at all
00:42:17.280 so if you
00:42:18.180 look into
00:42:18.640 it this is
00:42:19.060 actually a
00:42:19.420 pretty standard
00:42:20.200 dishonest
00:42:21.640 practice
00:42:22.240 what happens
00:42:23.080 is there's
00:42:23.540 a grid
00:42:24.100 that has
00:42:24.920 a bunch
00:42:25.280 of reliable
00:42:25.840 sources
00:42:26.300 and then a
00:42:26.880 little bit
00:42:27.200 of unreliable
00:42:28.080 energy
00:42:28.500 and then people
00:42:29.460 who want to
00:42:29.880 look really
00:42:30.360 good
00:42:30.580 they pay
00:42:31.260 the grid
00:42:31.820 to say
00:42:32.840 hey we
00:42:33.700 want credit
00:42:34.340 for all the
00:42:34.880 unreliable
00:42:35.460 energy
00:42:35.800 so in this
00:42:36.280 case there's
00:42:36.880 there's
00:42:37.140 something like
00:42:37.520 14%
00:42:38.460 renewable
00:42:38.900 which includes
00:42:40.160 hydro
00:42:40.520 which is
00:42:40.900 reliable
00:42:41.260 but there's
00:42:42.060 a solar
00:42:42.360 and wind
00:42:42.600 portion
00:42:42.900 so Georgetown
00:42:43.740 makes a
00:42:44.220 contract
00:42:44.700 with the
00:42:45.080 grid
00:42:45.380 because hey
00:42:46.300 we want you
00:42:46.900 to label
00:42:47.260 all of our
00:42:47.900 grid
00:42:48.140 electricity
00:42:48.740 solar and
00:42:50.400 wind
00:42:50.640 and everybody
00:42:51.560 else is
00:42:52.120 dirty
00:42:52.520 and we'll
00:42:53.280 pay for that
00:42:53.880 and that's
00:42:54.140 what Apple
00:42:54.620 and Facebook
00:42:55.160 and Google
00:42:55.700 do
00:42:56.140 so it's
00:42:56.760 just a
00:42:57.080 pure
00:42:57.520 accounting
00:42:58.120 fraud
00:42:58.620 wait
00:42:59.580 wait
00:42:59.620 that's
00:43:00.680 amazing
00:43:00.920 how do
00:43:02.360 you do
00:43:02.780 that
00:43:03.240 how do
00:43:03.720 you
00:43:04.020 how do
00:43:04.560 you
00:43:04.820 they just
00:43:06.360 by
00:43:06.640 if I have
00:43:07.440 if I have
00:43:08.520 a grid
00:43:08.840 if I'm connected
00:43:09.440 to the grid
00:43:09.980 and I am
00:43:11.000 using let's
00:43:11.940 say solar
00:43:12.460 I can only
00:43:13.000 use so much
00:43:13.640 solar for so
00:43:14.780 long during
00:43:15.320 the day
00:43:15.820 if I'm not
00:43:17.120 using all that
00:43:17.860 solar I put it
00:43:19.060 back into the
00:43:19.660 grid and
00:43:20.560 then I can
00:43:22.240 claim that I
00:43:23.860 am completely
00:43:25.360 clean even
00:43:26.120 though at
00:43:26.460 night I
00:43:27.560 may not be
00:43:28.460 using batteries
00:43:29.420 I may be
00:43:30.240 using the
00:43:30.860 grid
00:43:31.180 right this
00:43:33.120 is this is a
00:43:33.720 much worse
00:43:34.500 version of
00:43:35.420 that because
00:43:36.160 it's just
00:43:36.500 the percentages
00:43:37.520 are so
00:43:38.220 are so
00:43:39.440 different I
00:43:39.780 mean I've
00:43:40.400 thought of it
00:43:40.860 this way
00:43:41.440 like imagine
00:43:42.640 that I was
00:43:43.720 thinking you know
00:43:44.080 with Apple
00:43:44.620 you imagine
00:43:45.860 that Tim
00:43:47.260 Cook the
00:43:48.040 CEO of
00:43:48.600 Apple wants
00:43:49.220 to cross the
00:43:49.980 ocean without
00:43:50.540 using fossil
00:43:51.240 fuels and he
00:43:51.960 doesn't want to
00:43:52.380 just have a
00:43:52.780 sailboat right
00:43:53.340 well what does
00:43:53.800 he need he
00:43:54.280 needs fuel
00:43:54.900 oil or diesel
00:43:55.640 or some
00:43:56.040 form of
00:43:56.720 oil fuel
00:43:57.140 so how is
00:43:57.900 it going to
00:43:58.080 be 100%
00:43:58.860 solar and
00:43:59.680 wind and
00:44:00.100 Al Gore's
00:44:00.820 basic solution
00:44:01.500 as well in
00:44:02.380 addition to
00:44:03.060 that to the
00:44:03.560 engine that's
00:44:04.080 really doing
00:44:04.480 the work let's
00:44:04.980 put a sail on
00:44:06.400 top of the
00:44:06.920 yacht so that
00:44:07.880 you know it
00:44:08.200 gets a little
00:44:08.620 bit of power
00:44:09.160 from the wind
00:44:09.860 and then he
00:44:10.760 says well Tim
00:44:11.240 Cook we'll pay
00:44:11.940 the other
00:44:12.280 passengers so
00:44:13.040 they say they
00:44:14.020 got the energy
00:44:14.660 from the engine
00:44:15.320 and you got the
00:44:16.320 energy from the
00:44:17.000 sail
00:44:17.260 that is
00:44:19.580 awesome
00:44:20.020 that is
00:44:21.120 awesome
00:44:21.760 oh my
00:44:23.080 gosh
00:44:23.660 you have to
00:44:24.260 admire
00:44:24.780 oh my
00:44:25.300 gosh
00:44:25.620 you have to
00:44:26.020 admire it
00:44:26.480 at some
00:44:26.900 level
00:44:27.240 at some
00:44:28.420 devious level
00:44:29.460 you have to
00:44:30.080 admire it
00:44:30.700 so he says
00:44:32.300 the catastrophic
00:44:34.940 temperature rise
00:44:36.180 sea level rises
00:44:37.600 flooding drought
00:44:38.500 storms and
00:44:39.720 disease
00:44:40.100 all of that
00:44:40.920 has come true
00:44:41.680 can you take
00:44:42.220 those apart
00:44:42.760 one by one
00:44:44.080 well can I
00:44:45.120 take them apart
00:44:45.860 all at once
00:44:46.440 and then we
00:44:46.780 can do one
00:44:47.220 by one
00:44:47.500 oh sure
00:44:47.680 yeah
00:44:48.020 I think
00:44:49.640 as a viewer
00:44:50.920 of this
00:44:51.440 movie we
00:44:51.980 have a
00:44:52.480 responsibility
00:44:53.080 which is
00:44:54.120 to demand
00:44:54.760 that people
00:44:55.360 who document
00:44:56.340 important issues
00:44:57.520 give us the
00:44:58.320 whole picture
00:44:58.900 about those
00:44:59.480 issues
00:44:59.780 so one thing
00:45:00.680 we should
00:45:00.940 ask ourselves
00:45:01.620 is what
00:45:02.380 would the
00:45:03.040 whole picture
00:45:03.580 look like
00:45:04.040 what kind
00:45:04.400 of evidence
00:45:04.920 would we
00:45:05.300 need
00:45:05.660 and in
00:45:06.380 terms of
00:45:07.220 the climate
00:45:08.140 catastrophe
00:45:08.920 climate getting
00:45:09.760 catastrophically
00:45:10.460 dangerous
00:45:10.860 the number
00:45:11.640 one thing
00:45:12.080 we would need
00:45:12.520 to know
00:45:13.020 is what
00:45:13.480 is the
00:45:13.820 trend
00:45:14.400 what is
00:45:14.760 the global
00:45:15.680 trend
00:45:16.120 not just
00:45:16.540 one example
00:45:17.060 what's the
00:45:17.580 global trend
00:45:18.440 of climate
00:45:19.420 related deaths
00:45:20.200 people dying
00:45:20.960 from storms
00:45:21.660 and floods
00:45:22.100 because this
00:45:22.440 is what
00:45:22.800 Gore is
00:45:23.620 claiming is
00:45:24.140 worse
00:45:24.480 now anyone
00:45:25.600 watching this
00:45:26.380 movie would
00:45:27.360 infer
00:45:28.000 because Gore
00:45:28.700 doesn't give
00:45:29.080 this data
00:45:29.460 but they
00:45:29.760 would infer
00:45:30.240 that millions
00:45:30.740 of people
00:45:31.220 are dying
00:45:31.880 from climate
00:45:32.500 and this
00:45:32.880 is worse
00:45:33.300 than ever
00:45:33.820 but in fact
00:45:34.640 if you look
00:45:35.120 back
00:45:35.620 millions of
00:45:36.340 people used
00:45:36.820 to die
00:45:37.360 from climate
00:45:38.440 before we
00:45:39.220 were industrialized
00:45:40.180 fully
00:45:40.440 so in the
00:45:40.960 30s you
00:45:41.440 had millions
00:45:41.820 of people
00:45:42.160 who died
00:45:42.480 from climate
00:45:43.040 but last
00:45:44.120 year I
00:45:44.600 don't think
00:45:44.940 anyone could
00:45:45.580 imagine this
00:45:46.220 they tally
00:45:46.720 all climate
00:45:47.400 related deaths
00:45:47.940 from international
00:45:48.820 disaster database
00:45:49.940 from storms
00:45:50.520 and floods
00:45:51.020 and heat
00:45:51.820 and cold
00:45:52.240 and everything
00:45:52.660 that's supposed
00:45:53.060 to be getting
00:45:53.280 worse
00:45:53.520 and last
00:45:54.500 year the
00:45:54.920 worst year
00:45:55.440 ever
00:45:55.780 it's always
00:45:56.280 the worst
00:45:56.680 year ever
00:45:57.160 there were
00:45:57.780 6,114
00:46:00.120 climate related
00:46:00.860 deaths globally
00:46:01.680 wow
00:46:02.800 it's a huge
00:46:03.520 drop
00:46:03.760 it's over
00:46:04.100 90%
00:46:05.040 from not
00:46:07.000 too long
00:46:07.340 ago
00:46:07.500 less than
00:46:07.940 100 years
00:46:08.340 ago
00:46:08.900 right
00:46:10.020 and it's
00:46:10.440 because
00:46:10.760 nature
00:46:11.940 doesn't
00:46:12.500 give us
00:46:12.920 a safe
00:46:13.360 climate
00:46:13.780 that we
00:46:14.100 make
00:46:14.320 dangerous
00:46:14.760 it gives
00:46:15.500 us a
00:46:15.780 dangerous
00:46:16.080 climate
00:46:16.460 that we
00:46:16.780 make safe
00:46:17.480 have you
00:46:21.440 seen
00:46:21.720 I saw
00:46:22.160 an article
00:46:22.720 this weekend
00:46:23.420 about the
00:46:23.820 permafrost
00:46:24.500 melting
00:46:24.940 and they're
00:46:27.020 talking about
00:46:27.740 how in
00:46:28.400 Siberia
00:46:29.100 these giant
00:46:29.680 holes are
00:46:30.240 opening up
00:46:30.820 and in the
00:46:31.580 article
00:46:32.000 I mean the
00:46:32.720 headline was
00:46:33.340 something like
00:46:33.920 climate change
00:46:35.100 disaster
00:46:36.580 permafrost melting
00:46:37.820 and I click
00:46:38.880 on it
00:46:39.280 and in the
00:46:40.320 article
00:46:40.740 it quotes
00:46:41.400 scientists
00:46:41.840 saying this
00:46:42.420 has nothing
00:46:43.000 to do with
00:46:43.620 climate change
00:46:44.460 this has
00:46:45.260 something to
00:46:45.800 do with
00:46:46.320 the I
00:46:46.820 don't even
00:46:47.280 know the
00:46:47.800 axis or
00:46:49.360 the tilt
00:46:50.080 of the
00:46:50.440 earth
00:46:50.720 something has
00:46:51.840 changed
00:46:52.400 but it has
00:46:53.340 nothing to
00:46:53.920 do with
00:46:54.400 climate
00:46:54.840 have you
00:46:55.420 read about
00:46:55.820 this at
00:46:56.140 all
00:46:56.380 well I
00:46:57.900 don't know
00:46:58.120 if it has
00:46:58.420 nothing to
00:46:58.860 do with
00:46:59.160 climate
00:46:59.820 I think
00:47:00.220 that the
00:47:01.000 spreading of
00:47:01.860 the term
00:47:02.260 climate change
00:47:03.320 as an
00:47:04.060 allegedly
00:47:04.420 coherent
00:47:04.880 term is
00:47:05.380 very destructive
00:47:06.100 to thinking
00:47:06.700 because it's
00:47:07.060 not a
00:47:07.380 coherent
00:47:07.680 term so I
00:47:08.720 just think
00:47:09.240 it's easier
00:47:09.560 to talk
00:47:09.840 about CO2
00:47:10.420 levels
00:47:10.800 so if we
00:47:11.760 think okay
00:47:12.140 do higher
00:47:12.540 CO2 levels
00:47:13.500 cause
00:47:14.280 this
00:47:14.720 probably
00:47:16.300 like a
00:47:16.880 lot of
00:47:17.140 things
00:47:17.420 the truth
00:47:18.300 is no
00:47:18.760 but what
00:47:19.200 I'm concerned
00:47:19.680 about is
00:47:20.040 not is
00:47:21.000 there change
00:47:21.920 but how
00:47:23.160 is human
00:47:23.660 flourishing
00:47:24.220 going and
00:47:25.500 what human
00:47:25.960 flourishing
00:47:26.360 needs to
00:47:26.840 go and
00:47:27.920 to advance
00:47:28.560 is lots
00:47:29.220 and lots
00:47:29.580 and lots
00:47:29.900 of energy
00:47:30.400 for everything
00:47:31.040 in life
00:47:31.440 including
00:47:32.060 protecting
00:47:32.720 ourselves
00:47:33.160 from the
00:47:33.540 climate
00:47:33.880 so I'd
00:47:34.380 go so far
00:47:34.860 as to say
00:47:35.360 that even
00:47:36.520 if we wanted
00:47:37.280 to at this
00:47:37.960 point in
00:47:38.400 technological
00:47:38.820 history we
00:47:39.760 do not have
00:47:40.480 the ability
00:47:41.080 to make
00:47:42.020 climate
00:47:42.540 significantly
00:47:43.080 more dangerous
00:47:43.940 by our
00:47:44.840 emissions
00:47:45.160 but we
00:47:45.540 can make
00:47:45.920 it far
00:47:46.440 far safer
00:47:47.180 via energy
00:47:48.060 we have
00:47:49.800 Alex Epstein
00:47:50.440 and he's
00:47:51.320 the author
00:47:51.560 of the book
00:47:52.020 moral case
00:47:52.640 for fossil
00:47:53.120 fuels
00:47:53.580 he also
00:47:55.020 is an
00:47:55.720 adjunct
00:47:56.100 scholar
00:47:56.380 at the
00:47:57.000 cato
00:47:57.420 institute
00:47:57.880 and heads
00:47:59.000 up the
00:47:59.380 center
00:47:59.700 for
00:47:59.940 industrial
00:48:00.340 progress
00:48:01.280 you know
00:48:03.680 the
00:48:03.900 current
00:48:05.160 thinking
00:48:05.600 is
00:48:06.020 just
00:48:07.000 let
00:48:07.520 this
00:48:08.080 you know
00:48:08.420 the old
00:48:08.940 generation
00:48:09.540 like
00:48:10.220 me
00:48:10.820 die
00:48:11.980 because
00:48:13.120 everybody
00:48:13.700 you know
00:48:14.360 under
00:48:14.840 40
00:48:15.460 believes
00:48:16.620 this to
00:48:17.080 be true
00:48:17.600 and so
00:48:18.940 now they're
00:48:19.300 just saying
00:48:19.640 just let
00:48:20.480 it play
00:48:20.820 out
00:48:21.020 we'll
00:48:21.280 get what
00:48:21.820 we want
00:48:22.400 you know
00:48:23.260 from the
00:48:23.740 younger
00:48:24.000 generation
00:48:24.640 once the
00:48:25.120 younger
00:48:25.320 generation
00:48:25.860 seizes
00:48:26.240 power
00:48:26.720 you see
00:48:28.100 that is
00:48:28.540 is viable
00:48:29.380 any way
00:48:29.780 to combat
00:48:31.140 that
00:48:31.580 well I've
00:48:33.760 managed to
00:48:34.220 escape
00:48:34.440 I'm going
00:48:34.740 to be 37
00:48:35.380 tomorrow
00:48:36.020 so
00:48:36.620 they want
00:48:38.240 me to
00:48:38.620 die
00:48:38.900 they probably
00:48:39.660 do
00:48:40.020 oh I think
00:48:40.580 they do
00:48:40.980 want you
00:48:41.340 to die
00:48:41.600 they definitely
00:48:41.940 want you
00:48:42.240 to die
00:48:42.580 Alex
00:48:42.820 there's no
00:48:43.300 question
00:48:43.580 about that
00:48:44.280 so
00:48:45.600 I think
00:48:46.700 that I'll
00:48:47.180 tell you
00:48:47.440 my experience
00:48:48.380 is actually
00:48:48.860 very positive
00:48:49.920 on this
00:48:50.520 which is
00:48:51.540 that if
00:48:51.900 these issues
00:48:52.500 are explained
00:48:53.240 a certain
00:48:53.680 way
00:48:54.160 you can
00:48:54.820 win a lot
00:48:55.280 of people
00:48:55.660 over
00:48:55.980 I'm in
00:48:56.520 San Francisco
00:48:57.100 right now
00:48:57.500 I spoke
00:48:57.800 at Google
00:48:58.260 last week
00:48:58.800 on this
00:48:59.120 and I had
00:48:59.460 a lot
00:48:59.680 of success
00:49:00.100 but I think
00:49:00.860 the key
00:49:01.220 is this
00:49:01.700 we have
00:49:02.900 to
00:49:03.160 the way
00:49:03.840 to do
00:49:04.280 it
00:49:04.480 is to
00:49:05.060 not
00:49:05.400 focus
00:49:05.920 on
00:49:06.200 is there
00:49:06.800 climate
00:49:07.360 change
00:49:08.000 or not
00:49:08.880 which is
00:49:09.520 a very
00:49:09.720 vague
00:49:10.060 kind of
00:49:10.400 thing
00:49:10.560 anyway
00:49:10.880 because
00:49:11.580 what's
00:49:11.800 climate
00:49:12.200 non-change
00:49:13.020 so it's
00:49:13.380 just this
00:49:13.740 thing
00:49:14.000 where
00:49:14.220 that's
00:49:14.920 not
00:49:15.060 the issue
00:49:15.360 the issue
00:49:16.340 is
00:49:17.080 what is
00:49:17.600 the best
00:49:18.020 policy
00:49:18.760 if we
00:49:19.640 look at
00:49:20.280 the positives
00:49:20.920 and negatives
00:49:21.820 for human
00:49:22.940 flourishing
00:49:23.520 so I don't
00:49:24.160 have to
00:49:24.460 prove
00:49:25.120 that
00:49:26.140 fossil fuels
00:49:27.200 have no
00:49:27.580 impact
00:49:28.040 on climate
00:49:28.600 I have no
00:49:28.860 desire to
00:49:29.200 prove that
00:49:29.680 I just have
00:49:30.280 to show
00:49:30.680 that overall
00:49:31.440 this is a
00:49:32.620 it's a really
00:49:33.340 really good
00:49:33.780 thing
00:49:34.200 that we
00:49:34.900 keep using
00:49:35.420 fossil fuels
00:49:36.040 and in fact
00:49:36.500 use more
00:49:36.920 than fossil
00:49:37.320 fuels
00:49:37.620 and that if
00:49:38.180 we don't
00:49:38.740 it'll be
00:49:39.460 really bad
00:49:40.200 for a lot
00:49:41.760 of people
00:49:42.260 and in fact
00:49:43.080 Glenn I don't
00:49:43.720 know if you
00:49:43.900 remember this
00:49:44.280 I remember
00:49:44.580 this very well
00:49:45.180 we talked
00:49:45.640 a couple
00:49:46.080 years ago
00:49:46.740 and I
00:49:47.840 told you
00:49:48.380 that by
00:49:49.420 using energy
00:49:50.360 we basically
00:49:50.920 multiply our
00:49:51.760 power by
00:49:52.420 96 by
00:49:53.280 using machines
00:49:53.940 and fuel
00:49:54.380 and you said
00:49:55.160 hey could you
00:49:55.600 teach 96
00:49:56.320 people to do
00:49:57.140 that and
00:49:57.880 since then
00:49:58.480 to do what
00:49:59.020 you do in
00:49:59.360 terms of
00:49:59.620 persuasion
00:49:59.960 since then
00:50:00.620 we have a
00:50:01.620 couple of
00:50:02.100 programs so
00:50:03.020 if you want
00:50:03.880 to do this
00:50:04.300 if you have
00:50:04.680 96 listeners
00:50:05.540 we can just
00:50:05.980 send them
00:50:06.520 96 of our
00:50:07.480 programs and
00:50:08.600 we can see how
00:50:09.220 effective they
00:50:09.820 are in
00:50:10.480 persuading their
00:50:11.200 peers
00:50:11.580 I'd love
00:50:15.260 that
00:50:15.600 all right so
00:50:16.600 let's get some
00:50:17.080 information on
00:50:17.720 that I'd also
00:50:18.360 like to ask
00:50:19.000 you Alex if
00:50:20.320 if you would
00:50:21.560 like to
00:50:22.060 come down
00:50:23.980 and hold our
00:50:24.620 hand through
00:50:25.240 the you know
00:50:27.280 the inconvenient
00:50:28.100 sequel because
00:50:30.400 I'd like to
00:50:30.940 take a I'd like
00:50:31.880 to take a group
00:50:32.560 of people who
00:50:33.500 really want to
00:50:35.360 know this
00:50:36.280 want to know
00:50:37.740 the facts want
00:50:38.740 to listen to
00:50:39.260 both sides and
00:50:40.440 then can go
00:50:41.400 in and
00:50:42.440 decide for
00:50:44.640 themselves with
00:50:45.580 the facts and
00:50:46.120 then go do
00:50:46.820 something about
00:50:47.440 it I'm really
00:50:48.320 interested in
00:50:49.600 finding people
00:50:50.360 from you know
00:50:51.260 university campuses
00:50:52.380 that would like
00:50:54.280 to discover the
00:50:56.460 real truth and
00:50:57.920 then and go
00:50:59.360 out and and
00:51:00.380 be able to
00:51:01.060 combat this
00:51:01.820 would you be
00:51:02.500 willing to come
00:51:02.920 down and we'll
00:51:04.340 take a group of
00:51:05.000 listeners and then
00:51:05.680 you can talk to
00:51:07.220 us afterwards and
00:51:08.760 prepare us to go
00:51:10.320 out and we'll run
00:51:11.520 it on TV and
00:51:12.600 everything else
00:51:13.480 yeah I would
00:51:15.620 love to do
00:51:16.040 that
00:51:16.280 okay well
00:51:18.540 don't
00:51:18.800 don't
00:51:19.320 you're so
00:51:20.880 verbose
00:51:21.320 what time is
00:51:21.940 it right now
00:51:22.480 it's very early
00:51:23.160 in the morning
00:51:23.600 I suppose
00:51:24.140 I mean I
00:51:26.640 have a lot
00:51:27.040 that's from
00:51:27.460 is I have
00:51:27.780 too many ideas
00:51:28.500 about it
00:51:28.980 yeah but I
00:51:29.800 but I
00:51:30.240 I'll tell you
00:51:31.600 one but I
00:51:32.180 but I just
00:51:32.680 want to
00:51:33.280 enthusiastically
00:51:34.240 accept the
00:51:34.720 invitation as
00:51:35.360 the main
00:51:35.620 thing but
00:51:35.980 one thing
00:51:36.840 that I would
00:51:37.680 consider because
00:51:38.580 I'm really
00:51:38.920 interested in
00:51:39.340 this is just
00:51:40.220 giving people
00:51:41.000 before they
00:51:41.660 watch the
00:51:42.140 movie not
00:51:42.680 any facts but
00:51:43.560 a few
00:51:43.920 questions or
00:51:44.960 guidelines
00:51:45.720 so give
00:51:48.180 those to us
00:51:48.740 give those to
00:51:49.360 us now if
00:51:50.580 we happen to
00:51:51.100 have somebody
00:51:51.560 in our life
00:51:52.200 who is going
00:51:52.900 to it that
00:51:54.060 we can say
00:51:54.660 hey we want
00:51:55.400 you to watch
00:51:56.060 with these
00:51:56.640 questions in
00:51:57.380 mind what
00:51:57.800 are they
00:51:58.200 okay so
00:52:00.320 one is
00:52:01.580 what does
00:52:02.600 this movie
00:52:03.140 want us to
00:52:03.960 do
00:52:04.340 that's very
00:52:06.340 important to
00:52:06.840 know what
00:52:07.160 does this
00:52:07.540 movie want
00:52:08.140 us to
00:52:08.460 what action
00:52:09.540 does it
00:52:09.860 want us to
00:52:10.460 take
00:52:10.860 and then
00:52:12.320 two would
00:52:13.040 be is it
00:52:14.720 giving us
00:52:15.380 the whole
00:52:15.880 picture that
00:52:16.820 we would
00:52:17.160 need to
00:52:17.680 take that
00:52:18.200 action is
00:52:19.460 it giving
00:52:19.900 us the
00:52:20.560 whole picture
00:52:21.760 so one
00:52:23.000 thing would
00:52:23.400 be is it
00:52:24.240 giving us
00:52:24.780 both the
00:52:25.480 positives and
00:52:26.260 negatives of
00:52:27.060 what it tells
00:52:27.620 us to do
00:52:28.240 or is it
00:52:29.180 just giving
00:52:29.640 one side
00:52:30.740 and even
00:52:31.440 with that you
00:52:32.060 would disqualify
00:52:32.900 95% of
00:52:33.920 documentaries as
00:52:34.860 worthless
00:52:35.260 us
00:52:35.500 Alex thank
00:52:38.320 you so
00:52:38.600 much love
00:52:39.740 to have
00:52:40.040 you on
00:52:40.700 again we'll
00:52:41.360 talk to
00:52:41.880 you off
00:52:42.400 the air
00:52:42.780 he is the
00:52:45.220 author of
00:52:45.600 the book
00:52:45.820 moral case
00:52:46.580 for fossil
00:52:47.360 fuels
00:52:47.860 great book
00:52:48.460 you have to
00:52:48.840 read but
00:52:49.520 the central
00:52:50.460 argument it
00:52:50.980 seems Gore
00:52:51.380 makes in
00:52:51.780 all of his
00:52:52.240 previews is
00:52:53.680 the single
00:52:54.600 most common
00:52:55.140 criticism from
00:52:55.780 skeptics when
00:52:56.340 the film came
00:52:56.820 out focused
00:52:57.300 on the
00:52:57.520 animation
00:52:57.860 showing the
00:52:58.360 ocean water
00:52:58.860 flowing into
00:52:59.300 the world
00:52:59.540 trade center
00:52:59.960 memorial site
00:53:00.600 skeptics
00:53:01.280 called that
00:53:02.660 demagogic and
00:53:03.440 also absurd and
00:53:04.540 irresponsible it
00:53:06.040 happened on
00:53:06.700 October 29th
00:53:07.760 years ahead of
00:53:08.760 schedule so
00:53:09.540 that's his
00:53:10.020 claim so he's
00:53:10.760 saying I
00:53:11.540 called a flood
00:53:12.320 of New York
00:53:12.860 and a flood
00:53:13.980 of New York
00:53:14.260 happened now of
00:53:15.320 course you're
00:53:15.780 right Sandy is
00:53:16.520 what he's talking
00:53:17.100 about this is
00:53:18.120 something he was
00:53:18.900 talking about
00:53:19.580 permanent level
00:53:20.480 permanent sea
00:53:21.140 level rise of
00:53:22.260 20 feet why
00:53:23.700 and that would
00:53:24.760 displace 100
00:53:25.740 million people
00:53:26.780 Greenland
00:53:27.340 melted because
00:53:28.220 Greenland
00:53:28.580 melted that's
00:53:29.100 why and the
00:53:30.100 amazing part about
00:53:31.160 it he has such
00:53:31.920 big balls that in
00:53:33.760 that section of
00:53:34.800 seven there's a
00:53:35.640 72nd section
00:53:37.180 about that claim
00:53:37.920 in the section
00:53:39.060 he tells you all
00:53:40.520 of the things that
00:53:41.220 would prove his
00:53:42.020 current claim wrong
00:53:43.020 it's right it's
00:53:44.680 legitimately like the
00:53:45.720 next sentence after
00:53:46.960 the one he features
00:53:47.720 in the movie
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00:56:00.500 this is the Glenn Beck
00:56:04.340 program mercury this is
00:56:11.180 the Glenn Beck program
00:56:12.540 well so there's some
00:56:15.960 there's some additional
00:56:17.520 big news that our guests
00:56:18.940 just refuse to look at
00:56:21.900 yeah it is I mean it's
00:56:24.020 really you know talk
00:56:25.900 about he ignored the
00:56:27.640 entire situation in
00:56:29.260 Greenland just like you
00:56:30.360 notice that because that
00:56:31.280 didn't fit his agenda
00:56:32.240 yeah what's what's the
00:56:34.220 what Greenland what
00:56:35.440 there's been a lot of
00:56:36.360 snow in Greenland this
00:56:37.940 summer oh now it's bad
00:56:40.320 no that it's bad don't
00:56:41.940 jump to some weird
00:56:42.820 conclusion that's good
00:56:43.760 because Greenland was
00:56:44.680 supposed to melt
00:56:45.440 remember that's what
00:56:46.140 Al Gore said but here
00:56:47.400 was going to melt and
00:56:48.260 the sea was going to
00:56:49.200 rise well recent summers
00:56:50.220 on the vast wide expanse
00:56:51.500 of the Greenland ice
00:56:52.320 sheet have featured
00:56:53.040 some spectacular ice
00:56:54.300 melt including the
00:56:55.560 alarming period in 2012
00:56:57.620 when nearly the whole
00:56:58.820 surface showed signs of
00:57:00.040 melt they have to say
00:57:00.980 that because usually the
00:57:03.000 interior is adding ice
00:57:04.920 and the exterior is
00:57:06.320 subtracting some but
00:57:09.600 summer has in this
00:57:11.480 summer has instead seen
00:57:12.660 several bouts of snow
00:57:13.880 staving off a big summer
00:57:15.100 melt so what gives while
00:57:16.980 it may seem contradictory
00:57:17.940 those snows are actually
00:57:18.900 something Greenland may
00:57:19.900 see more of with global
00:57:21.760 warming it does seem
00:57:23.160 contradictory you're right
00:57:24.100 yeah yeah so they have
00:57:25.500 it both ways more snow
00:57:26.920 is bad snow and then
00:57:28.880 less snow is also bad
00:57:31.240 pick one wait just pick
00:57:33.280 one why pick one when you
00:57:35.200 can have both you can have
00:57:36.100 both right I want to eat
00:57:38.180 my cake and have it too
00:57:40.340 it's a good idea and it
00:57:42.040 works for him yeah it does
00:57:43.340 it does back in just a
00:57:45.680 second
00:57:45.920 the Glenn Beck program
00:57:51.720 triple eight seven two
00:57:58.680 seven back this is you know
00:58:00.680 the Glenn Beck program
00:58:02.460 really interesting plot being
00:58:05.160 course or course being
00:58:06.920 plotted right now by the
00:58:08.120 president of the White
00:58:08.960 House he has now come out
00:58:13.080 against the establishment
00:58:15.380 of the GOP so first he
00:58:18.520 came against the
00:58:19.880 conservatives and the
00:58:22.040 Freedom Caucus so those
00:58:24.500 who were really strong in
00:58:25.780 the Constitution and the
00:58:27.660 free market and he put all
00:58:29.920 of his eggs into the
00:58:31.900 Reince Priebus Mitch
00:58:33.260 McConnell Paul Ryan bag
00:58:35.400 which we knew to be a
00:58:37.720 rotten bag from the
00:58:39.160 beginning but trust the
00:58:42.000 president that's where he
00:58:43.200 went now he's taking on the
00:58:45.160 entire GOP where is he
00:58:48.300 going who is he going what
00:58:50.900 constituency will he have
00:58:52.960 the Democrats I think when
00:58:57.140 they have power and they
00:58:58.800 start to pass things and put
00:59:00.480 it on his desk he will sign
00:59:03.480 them so if they want to come
00:59:05.820 up with some you know thing
00:59:09.000 that's you know even more
00:59:11.640 socialist on health care I
00:59:13.480 believe he will sign it
00:59:14.580 because he will look at that
00:59:16.420 as bipartisan wins and so you
00:59:19.880 will have in effect a
00:59:21.600 Republican president siding with
00:59:24.520 a Democratic Congress because
00:59:26.140 the GOP has destroyed itself he
00:59:28.840 didn't they did he just they
00:59:31.400 destroyed it and now he's just
00:59:33.260 going to stand there and make
00:59:34.620 sure that they stay in the grave and
00:59:36.960 part of me celebrates it is it is
00:59:41.640 time for a new party it is time
00:59:43.960 for a new direction is time for new
00:59:46.420 leadership however they want to do
00:59:49.060 it that's fine with me but I don't
00:59:52.300 believe in the party at all I don't
00:59:54.820 believe in the Democratic Party I
00:59:56.180 don't believe in the Republican Party
00:59:58.040 that was kind of the case of a story I
01:00:00.760 read this weekend basically saying
01:00:02.140 that now because he's excised all of
01:00:04.160 the establishment people from his
01:00:05.600 cabinet basically that he is
01:00:09.280 essentially an independent now it's
01:00:12.020 not exactly true but it is an
01:00:14.160 interesting theory in that he no
01:00:15.520 longer has any back real real back
01:00:17.840 channels to Congress to help form
01:00:20.060 policies he is not tied into that and
01:00:23.880 that was what Spicer and previous and
01:00:26.160 many others below him that have come
01:00:27.820 and gone kind of allowed for it didn't
01:00:31.340 really help though did it oh I'm not
01:00:32.720 saying it did I'm just saying it's
01:00:34.160 going to be interesting to see where
01:00:35.040 he goes now because I mean really the
01:00:37.260 only person left in the cabinet that
01:00:39.080 has a real connection to the
01:00:40.140 Republican Congress is Mike Pence I
01:00:42.720 mean really there's there's no one
01:00:44.740 there at this point with that sort of
01:00:47.720 tight connection to influence policy to
01:00:49.820 but I mean that doesn't that's not
01:00:51.260 again that's not really the concern I
01:00:52.920 don't think of the president I think
01:00:54.560 the president wants to move things
01:00:55.760 along he wants to you know collect his
01:00:58.720 wins and he's right now frustrated
01:01:00.320 he's not getting those so he wants to
01:01:02.620 go in a different direction it's going
01:01:03.820 to be interesting to see if he can he
01:01:05.100 can pull that off I mean honestly if I
01:01:07.480 from the Republican Congress what I
01:01:09.120 would like is them to work as an
01:01:10.680 independent body me too I don't know a
01:01:13.020 co-equal branch of government let's
01:01:14.620 throw out a crazy theory you know and
01:01:16.860 have them pass things that they believe
01:01:18.980 are good that they believe will advance
01:01:21.380 the conservative cause that will limit
01:01:22.840 government and give them to the
01:01:24.380 president and you know what he's
01:01:25.400 going to sign all of them he's going
01:01:26.820 to sign all of them he's not going to
01:01:28.380 care he's not going to push back
01:01:29.480 against it he will sign all of them
01:01:30.820 he is a legislative hall pass that is
01:01:32.980 an incredible thing to get from a
01:01:34.980 president you wouldn't have had that
01:01:36.080 from President Cruz or President
01:01:37.480 Jeb Bush or President anybody but you
01:01:39.080 don't have what you have is very small
01:01:41.140 men you have you have Mitch McConnell
01:01:44.120 who's not going to give up his power and
01:01:47.380 he is going after people like Mo Brooks
01:01:49.300 now he is I mean they are spending a
01:01:51.880 fortune going after anyone who was with
01:01:56.180 the freedom caucus so the GOP under
01:01:58.940 Mitch McConnell targeting his own now
01:02:01.780 you have the GOP the coffers are full
01:02:05.460 they are taking in money hand over fist
01:02:09.120 so he's doing his job he's he's making
01:02:15.100 the GOP money and we'll see in the
01:02:17.940 midterms if they win elections only after
01:02:21.380 they lose elections will they think that
01:02:24.120 maybe they should change leadership but
01:02:28.240 I mean if this is a disaster and it
01:02:29.980 continues this way they don't get tax
01:02:31.360 reform done by the way you know something
01:02:33.360 like that goes along you're gonna go into
01:02:35.400 2018 with no accomplishments they'll
01:02:37.780 likely lose control of one or both in
01:02:41.340 in the Congress and then they will lose
01:02:43.440 the temptation will be there yeah they
01:02:45.100 will lose they will lose control of
01:02:47.100 Congress possibly for the next 20 years I
01:02:50.540 mean you can't do what they just did to
01:02:55.600 their base and expect anybody to vote or
01:02:58.980 trust trust you again and you know they
01:03:02.220 think well you know well it's just we're
01:03:04.880 just better than the other guys yeah but
01:03:07.340 that doesn't that doesn't do anything but
01:03:10.420 just make people say I don't want a part
01:03:12.420 of either of you I don't know it does
01:03:15.460 seem to be a pretty good tactic it does
01:03:17.680 seem to pay off in elections I don't
01:03:19.100 know if it can pay off forever I don't
01:03:20.620 think it's a good way to build a party
01:03:21.780 or to build a you know work for Donald
01:03:24.620 philosophy going to work for Donald Trump
01:03:26.100 for a while it's going to work for him
01:03:28.280 but I mean remember and G the GOP
01:03:30.200 congressman in 90% of districts
01:03:32.240 outperformed Donald Trump 90% this is
01:03:36.040 not a huge it's not like Donald Trump
01:03:37.760 won where all Republicans lost I mean he
01:03:40.920 underperformed the G the generic GOP
01:03:44.300 congressman very consistently the issue
01:03:46.820 here though is he need they need to do
01:03:48.760 something to justify that there are two
01:03:50.460 things less popular than Donald Trump
01:03:53.680 and that is Congress and the media he
01:03:59.400 looks like the only guy if he starts
01:04:02.660 pummeling Congress in particular the
01:04:05.140 Republicans he'll become popular and he's
01:04:10.180 doing and he's starting to do that and
01:04:11.780 yeah he's doing that yep I mean he and
01:04:13.680 and you know what he's right on this I
01:04:15.360 mean I really do blame Congress for
01:04:17.760 this particularly the health care
01:04:18.840 situation oh yeah it's absurd they
01:04:20.660 completely blew it because they started
01:04:22.340 with a crap heap of a plan yeah that
01:04:24.200 they couldn't pass yeah then they then
01:04:25.840 they changed it a little bit and got it
01:04:27.360 through the house then they went to the
01:04:28.780 Senate with a worse plan that they
01:04:30.420 couldn't pass then they went to the
01:04:31.980 Senate with a plan that they all voted
01:04:33.600 for before and then all nine of them
01:04:35.940 changed their or seven of them changed
01:04:37.680 their minds and voted against the thing
01:04:39.960 they had already voted for and then what
01:04:42.960 they failed to pass in the end was let's
01:04:46.180 have another conversation in private
01:04:49.680 about this they couldn't even do that
01:04:52.220 that they couldn't even agree to talk
01:04:55.520 about this that's how bad they are and
01:04:59.000 and so and the risk was they were
01:05:00.540 worried that they would get rid of the
01:05:01.860 individual mandate like the consequence
01:05:05.140 essentially because the Senate was like
01:05:07.540 look we're not gonna unless you promise
01:05:09.160 we're gonna go into conference we're
01:05:10.300 not gonna pass this bill because this
01:05:11.520 bill is a bad bill we're not gonna pass
01:05:13.020 this bill the bill essentially just got
01:05:15.840 rid of the individual mandate it did
01:05:17.260 almost nothing else except for a couple
01:05:19.720 of delays of a couple of different
01:05:21.940 taxes and regulations it's almost
01:05:23.840 nothing else except get rid of the
01:05:24.980 individual get rid of the taxes even
01:05:27.040 that delayed them right even that so
01:05:29.440 they couldn't come to say well god
01:05:30.920 forbid the worst part of Obamacare they
01:05:33.140 couldn't get they couldn't come to
01:05:34.160 conclusion they should get rid of it so
01:05:36.040 let me tell you something I think has a
01:05:37.560 real chance of passing
01:05:38.500 the moderates the left and the right
01:05:43.800 are coming together now and they're
01:05:46.120 gonna pass something and they're
01:05:47.360 working on something called think of
01:05:49.660 this what is the problem with the world
01:05:51.300 today it's in chaos you don't know
01:05:54.020 what's up and down you don't know
01:05:55.420 where tomorrow what tomorrow's gonna
01:05:56.920 bring you're you're worried because
01:05:59.820 the whole thing could collapse or blow
01:06:01.480 up they've just come up with the
01:06:04.460 health care stabilization act
01:06:08.060 that's not good is this our insurance
01:06:11.740 bailouts and our stabilization acts do
01:06:15.200 doesn't matter so it's insurance it
01:06:17.540 doesn't matter what's in it it's going
01:06:19.480 to stabilize the health insurance
01:06:21.520 industry so we can make sure that we
01:06:24.460 have a stable are you opposed to
01:06:27.280 stabilization of health care I'm
01:06:29.840 certainly not a patron you're not in
01:06:31.800 this form I am I am why do you hate
01:06:35.220 people want them to die so is that
01:06:36.720 what they're gonna do you think
01:06:37.480 they're gonna go to that I'll bet they
01:06:38.780 do throw a bunch of money at the
01:06:40.300 problem basically fix Obamacare yeah
01:06:42.420 they're gonna go for a stabilization
01:06:43.760 act and when I say fix Obamacare I
01:06:45.640 mean dump a bunch of money until it's
01:06:46.860 broken again in a couple years yep but
01:06:48.800 it will stabilize it because we just
01:06:51.560 can't get it done and look a lot of
01:06:53.420 people really like this and are
01:06:54.680 benefiting so let's just dump more
01:06:56.440 money into it and let more time go
01:07:00.360 by so it has its its its fingers and
01:07:06.040 its roots deeper wrapped around our
01:07:09.960 spine just a few years away from being
01:07:12.180 on the show begging for them to go
01:07:13.860 back to Obamacare we will be on the
01:07:16.380 air being like gosh if we could just
01:07:17.900 get off this single payer and go back
01:07:19.620 to Obamacare which was really good that
01:07:22.400 is how close they're gonna move this
01:07:24.440 Overton window until we can't even see
01:07:26.240 it from where we are right now we go to
01:07:27.760 Jeremy in North Carolina hello Jeremy
01:07:29.420 hey thank you guys for taking my call
01:07:32.960 greetings from the hole in the Bible
01:07:35.080 belt aka the People's Republic of
01:07:38.060 Asheville North Carolina reason for my
01:07:42.380 call is what's very disappointing we
01:07:45.480 have a Congress who has the perfect
01:07:48.720 cover coming from the the president and
01:07:52.500 his administration got all the crazy
01:07:55.200 stuff going on and the press is just
01:07:57.580 watching that guy over there they could
01:07:59.720 pass everything and no one's paying
01:08:02.580 attention yet what do they do they just
01:08:05.780 open the door in their face every single
01:08:08.540 time and it's very disheartening and
01:08:11.820 frustrating so what do you think that is
01:08:13.840 caused by Jeremy frankly it's you know I
01:08:18.860 think Reagan said it best he said I did
01:08:20.860 not leave the Democratic Party the
01:08:22.400 Democrat Party left me and I'm the same
01:08:25.060 way I left the Republican Party years
01:08:27.140 ago when they nominated John McCain in
01:08:29.240 2008 oh you were so ahead of the curve
01:08:31.700 good for you right so I look at him and I
01:08:34.940 hear these guys and you know I'm different
01:08:37.220 I'm Tea Party I'm gonna do this we're
01:08:38.800 gonna repeal we're gonna repeal we're
01:08:40.020 gonna repeal Obamacare and they have it's
01:08:42.740 right there in front of them it's very
01:08:44.080 simple simple vote one-line bill that
01:08:47.020 could be passed and they do nothing and
01:08:51.120 as a small business operator it's uh it's
01:08:55.200 been devastating it's frustrating and we
01:08:58.160 just ask for some relief from the
01:08:59.480 government get out of our way yep thank
01:09:01.740 you very much Jeremy anybody who is a
01:09:04.380 small business person knows this chaos of
01:09:08.440 not knowing what tomorrow brings is really
01:09:11.140 what's killing us stability not from
01:09:14.740 Congress but from Washington entirely get
01:09:18.480 out of the way that kind of stability and
01:09:21.860 entrusting the American people would do
01:09:24.520 wonders just the tax cut just the tax
01:09:26.800 reform would help stability is a great
01:09:29.360 word maybe we should do something like the
01:09:31.240 Health Care Stabilization Act that was
01:09:32.900 that would give us the stability we all
01:09:34.560 need oh my gosh that's the taxation
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01:12:04.640 you're listening to the Glenn Beck
01:12:07.120 program the Glenn Beck program
01:12:09.880 mercury mercury
01:12:24.420 this is the Glenn Beck program sign up for
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01:12:29.880 need to know at glennbeck.com oh man we
01:12:32.860 have a we have an amazing amazing guy on
01:12:38.780 Walt higher he started off 1944 his
01:12:48.280 grandmother cross-dressed him as a child
01:12:51.240 his he was physically abused by his
01:12:54.760 father sexually abused by his uncle
01:12:56.920 he he was diagnosed with 13 different
01:13:03.520 personalities was evaluated and then told
01:13:10.960 he he needed to transition from a male to
01:13:15.600 a female he did then he transitioned back to
01:13:21.180 a male and he was he was listening to
01:13:27.680 commentary we had last week and wanted to
01:13:31.220 talk to us about it and truly is has a
01:13:36.180 remarkable story to tell we'll talk to him
01:13:38.000 he was he spent eight years as a woman
01:13:39.880 didn't he I think it was eight years
01:13:42.640 so he's got some pretty good experience
01:13:45.700 it's pretty amazing yeah we'll talk to him
01:13:48.060 coming up in just a second also next hour
01:13:51.140 Stu has a review of Atomic Blonde
01:13:53.140 what time Pat went to Pat Pat was called by
01:13:56.260 the bank they didn't think you're investing
01:13:57.920 your money right no they don't know that's
01:13:59.980 where it is so they had some things that
01:14:01.620 they could charge you to help right yeah
01:14:03.600 yeah yeah that's interesting they said
01:14:06.920 some interesting things like the the
01:14:09.380 banking industry is about to release
01:14:11.660 four trillion dollars into the economy
01:14:13.820 and four trillion dollars that's gonna
01:14:16.220 spark the economy like crazy will and
01:14:18.640 it'll burn down in inflation like if you
01:14:22.780 wow you release four trillion all at once
01:14:26.040 we're gonna have inflation at about nine
01:14:28.120 hundred percent oh well no I'm sure
01:14:31.080 they're gonna do it in a reasonable way
01:14:32.520 over time oh without who has this four
01:14:35.800 trillion dollars that they're gonna
01:14:37.000 really thanks to thanks this was an
01:14:39.580 official bank representative telling you
01:14:42.540 this stuff yeah you should probably
01:14:44.840 pursue that we'll talk a little bit more
01:14:46.980 about that next hour
01:14:48.420 back in a minute
01:14:49.940 Mercury
01:15:02.520 the blaze radio network on demand we are
01:15:17.440 going to talk to a very very brave man
01:15:20.340 Walter Heyer last week President Trump
01:15:24.380 tweeted out that he wouldn't allow
01:15:25.460 transgendered individuals to serve in the
01:15:27.220 military he wrote in an op-ed I think he
01:15:30.640 made the right decision as somebody who
01:15:32.980 lived as a trans female for several
01:15:35.160 years I should know when I discovered
01:15:37.700 Congress voted earlier this month not to
01:15:39.620 block funding for transgender related
01:15:41.700 hormone therapies and sex chain surgeries I
01:15:44.400 wondered if it considered how devastating
01:15:45.920 this will be to the fitness readiness and
01:15:48.320 morale of our combat ready troops here is a I
01:15:53.820 warn you a very politically incorrect point of
01:15:57.400 view and one that will shock a lot of people
01:16:01.120 because he actually uses the words gender
01:16:03.760 dysphoria
01:16:04.560 the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment this is the Glenn
01:16:08.820 Beck program
01:16:27.820 the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment this
01:16:31.820 is the Glenn Beck program
01:16:35.820 what a pleasure and an honor to be on your
01:16:46.080 show Glenn thanks so much for inviting me on
01:16:48.440 this today you bet I will tell you Walt that
01:16:51.280 you have a remarkable story and I don't know how
01:16:56.880 much you're comfortable sharing but can can we start at the beginning of your
01:17:01.300 story oh absolutely sure any any questions you have I want to answer
01:17:06.260 right here for your audience okay so so Walt start start with your
01:17:10.620 childhood and your grandma and your dad and your uncle and everything else yeah
01:17:15.980 well I started out you know four years old interested in female things and
01:17:22.260 cross-dressing and my grandmother helped me by making me a purple chiffon dress
01:17:27.560 which we both delighted in and and it was our little secret she did this when she
01:17:33.620 was babysitting me and so that started the the journey of gender dysphoria journey of
01:17:42.020 transgenderism journey of confusion over gender and then when my dad found out a
01:17:49.840 couple of years later when the secret was out and both my mom and dad found out my dad
01:17:55.900 obviously was furious and he you know not knowing what to do keep in mind this is
01:18:01.820 before 1945 because I'm 76 years old so there wasn't much out there about this so he was
01:18:11.180 you know he's a part-time police officer industrial goods salesman strong guy and I'm
01:18:18.300 sure inside him was just turmoil and so he decided that you know to toughen me up he was going to
01:18:25.580 exercise real strong discipline and when the the secret got out my uncle who was an adopted uncle
01:18:34.520 decided that you know it was appropriate to tease and sexually molest me so you know before you get
01:18:42.020 very old in life you're cross-dressing and you're got some heavy discipline and then you're molested so
01:18:48.860 it's not the best way to start so at 13 you were told you had multiple personalities
01:18:58.320 well it wasn't quite that early I I did start changing my name I became I changed my name at 13 to
01:19:06.980 crystal west and people began to wonder uh that I was confiding in which was a small group of people
01:19:14.220 and so I didn't know what was going on all I knew is I had these very very strong feelings and
01:19:21.980 it just didn't go away Glenn they they went on literally every hour in my head I kept thinking that
01:19:29.320 I was in the wrong body and that I should change to being a female
01:19:33.140 Walter I have to tell you um uh I think America has changed uh from when you were young and I think
01:19:41.580 we saw it with uh Bruce Jenner when he came out and said he's been feeling this way his whole life
01:19:47.440 I I don't know anybody none of my friends at least said anything but I can't imagine going through that
01:19:56.020 and the empathy of feeling that way um I mean I do you feel America has changed
01:20:05.160 when when you can tell your story and I mean I think the vast majority of of people just their
01:20:11.940 heart breaks for you well yeah I think what my heart breaks for everybody who's struggling with it
01:20:19.120 today you know I'm fortunate uh because I've come out the other side I'm married now for 20 years and
01:20:25.240 I'm working with uh transgenders who want to detransition after they found out as I did
01:20:31.460 that it was not effective or proper treatment for things that happened during early childhood so
01:20:38.220 wow you know I'm quite comfortable with who I am as Walt today that must be politically incorrect
01:20:45.040 for you to be working with other transgender people I mean and to even say that you can come out the
01:20:50.760 other side and this is not I mean that's that's a nightmare politically oh well it quite frankly
01:20:59.020 happens quite a bit uh I've had as many as three people in a week contact me some of them are doctors
01:21:05.500 physicians that are changing airline pilots uh two teachers um who are struggling to you know come out
01:21:14.440 with the union and tell them gee I need to go back after they got such support so it's much much more
01:21:19.900 difficult to detransition um because of all the efforts that went into transitioning so this is the
01:21:27.600 tough part is to step up and and come back so so Walt you uh at what age did you uh decide to become a
01:21:40.320 woman and begin to transition yeah well about 40 years of age I went and saw a psychologist up in
01:21:48.820 San Francisco who specialized in this and he diagnosed me with having gender issues and and said that I
01:21:56.520 needed to undergo hormone therapy and wait the two appropriate years and then have surgery then by
01:22:03.740 Dr. Biber in Colorado and so I I thought well this is pretty radical but you know I've been struggling
01:22:10.300 with this now you know for 36 years by that time and so um the feelings are extremely strong and and my
01:22:18.160 heart goes out to anybody who's struggling with him but I listened to the guy as though he was an
01:22:22.740 authority on it and two years later I went you know uh I got my second letter of approval went and had the
01:22:28.880 surgery in 1983 I was an executive for American Honda Motor Company at the time and they promptly
01:22:35.320 terminated me which was you know I think appropriate actually uh wait wait wait wait wait why why well
01:22:44.460 well you know when somebody's struggling with that uh depth of issues personal issues they're not going
01:22:52.220 to be effective um in doing their work I I totally understand that and and so um I I've never begrudged
01:23:00.620 uh people for not wanting me and I I went interviewed for over 200 jobs Glenn and and couldn't get a job
01:23:08.920 because I was one of the early people who went through this and I understood that I told my counselor
01:23:15.120 in California at the time you know I understand that it's it's this confusing issue and and people
01:23:20.540 should have the right to not employ anybody that they don't want to employ oh what is I mean where did
01:23:27.580 you get what I hate mom had to be tough here's a guy who's been abused you have every reason to be
01:23:34.240 um you know cut me some slack where are you getting this Christ-like uh attitude of hey I just need to do
01:23:45.880 my thing and and I understand if you disagree where are you getting that kindness Jesus
01:23:52.800 just as you said you know I I I get it from Jesus you know people um I totally understand that people
01:24:03.520 are confused by me listen I was a little confused for a while frankly now it's nice to have my feet
01:24:09.780 on the ground okay especially Walt at that time because the only person I can think of that I knew
01:24:15.360 about when I was growing up um that was in your situation was Renee Richards the tennis player who went
01:24:21.500 from man to woman and there and there was the big controversy of should she be allowed now to
01:24:26.640 compete against women when she's she just came from being a man that had to be a really difficult
01:24:31.440 time period because America wasn't socially where it is now oh yeah yeah and keep in mind Renee
01:24:39.780 Richards has come out later and said regrets I have a few really you know even oh yeah so you know
01:24:46.720 these are the stories that don't don't get talked about and Renee doesn't suggest anybody have it in
01:24:52.200 fact Renee stays very quiet about it but I don't I'm troubled by the fact that we have a population
01:24:58.700 of people who are changing genders and from 1979 to this day Glenn they've been reporting extremely high
01:25:06.540 rates of suicide I know uh and a suicide attempts at over 40 percent so if this is so good and so
01:25:14.820 effective and so wonderful why are 40 percent of this population attempting suicide that's a question
01:25:21.420 I ask all the time it was it's interesting to me when we talked about this last week um and we we spoke
01:25:28.640 about how the you know pre-surgery suicide rate is 46 percent post-surgery it's 45 percent so it's the same
01:25:38.880 so obviously this does nothing to those feelings at all um and so it's it's not a life-saving surgery
01:25:49.160 by any stretch of the imagination uh and we are just we are just just throwing in with this and saying
01:25:58.540 yep this is this is all good and if if I'm not mistaken the numbers for suicide for um you know
01:26:08.440 people under 30 are are even higher than that yeah the suicide attempts I don't know what the actual
01:26:16.460 rate of suicide is the suicide attempts are at 50 percent uh in in the lower age groups children
01:26:22.660 especially 12 to 24 28 somewhere in there so you know this is just not a healthy thing psychologically
01:26:30.520 or emotionally and what we do know is that according to the studies that 60 to 70 percent of the population
01:26:37.780 are struggling from what's known as comorbid disorders that's separation anxiety dissociative
01:26:43.980 disorders body dysmorphic disorder and schizophrenia and a whole bunch of other disorders that we are
01:26:50.440 totally ignoring in the treatment uh modality of people who are suffering we should sit these people
01:26:57.480 down and what I do is actually talk to them and say what do you think was the trigger mechanism
01:27:03.240 that set this in motion and 100 percent of the time Glenn every one of them over a period of time
01:27:09.660 when we have this discussion can identify the moment of trauma or event or situation that caused them to
01:27:16.720 not want to be who they are and attempt to become someone who they can never be
01:27:21.300 uh Walt we're with Walt Heyer um somebody who transitioned from male to female and then back to male
01:27:30.020 um we'll continue with him here in um in just a second our our sponsor this half hour
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01:30:01.780 we're um glad to have um uh walt hire on he is a a guy who um has had really a an amazing life uh
01:30:14.860 started out in the 1940s with his grandmother cross-dressing him as a father physically abusing him and his uncle
01:30:23.640 sexually abusing him um then he was um diagnosed with uh personality disorder and then uh gender dysphoria
01:30:34.220 he had a sex change to a man walt walt to a i'm sorry to a woman can you tell me walt what that is like
01:30:43.740 going through that
01:30:44.940 well i you know when i went from male to female there was a there was a period of um euphoria
01:30:54.060 where wow i thought you know i finally solved all the problems and and uh that all of this stuff that
01:31:02.200 uh i'd gone through and suffered uh was going to be behind me um you know the truth is it's only a
01:31:09.680 temporary reprieve because early childhood issues when you have any event happen that you're struggling
01:31:18.000 with you need to go to psychotherapy and get it done so um i you know within eight years of
01:31:24.560 trying to suppress what had happened in my early life um i finally um started going well i went to
01:31:32.620 as i went to uc santa cruz and studied psychology realized that you know the whole gender thing is
01:31:38.480 really built on a foundation of psychological issues and they're trying to cure psychological
01:31:44.440 issues by giving people hormones and and uh surgery which isn't effective and so so walt
01:31:51.200 i mean before you have transgender surgery no one is recommending to you to have serious psychological
01:32:01.460 uh work done in your childhood to see where those scars are is that just too politically
01:32:08.000 incorrect now too oh that is really politically incorrect in fact in california and other states
01:32:15.160 it's actually against the law for a therapist if the kid's under 18 years of age who comes in and said
01:32:22.560 you know i want to change genders it's against the law for him to probe into um what might have
01:32:28.740 stirred this idea that so wait wow so so teachers teachers can are required to probe on sexual abuse and
01:32:40.900 anything else if they have any inkling yet a psychiatrist cannot probe probe a child who is having uh
01:32:50.900 uh just gender dysphoria well no they that that's again i know it sounds totally absurd when when i had
01:33:02.100 uh just got an email yesterday from a mother who said my daughter's getting uh hormone blockers she's
01:33:08.300 uh 12 years old i think it was and i know there's something wrong because my child was sexually abused by
01:33:15.280 her father but they don't care so they're going to give the child hormone therapies and send them down the
01:33:21.360 tract of changing genders this is so common today they don't want to acknowledge early childhood trauma in the
01:33:30.860 transgender population they do not want why well when when i mean that's what freud has been all about that's what
01:33:38.880 the progressive movement has been all about you know these hidden sexual fantasies and problems
01:33:47.360 glenn if they if they allowed in-depth effective sound psychotherapy for people who struggled with
01:33:55.680 gender issues it would collapse the entire hormone and surgery procedure because they would be able
01:34:02.420 to do effective psychotherapy they'd be able to pinpoint what the psychological issues are and would
01:34:08.780 make surgery and hormones but walt you're you're you're i mean um i i just have to play devil's advocate
01:34:16.360 and push back here you're you're what you're saying is is that there are no doctors out there
01:34:22.260 that are in this that don't that that just say this you know i don't care about the money we're talking
01:34:28.860 about people here i mean the the whole industry is okay with doing that well i think there are some
01:34:36.980 really good doctors because i've had people report to me that you know they wouldn't do it uh because
01:34:43.100 they they the doctor found that they did have co-existing disorders and wouldn't approve them and
01:34:50.320 uh you know whether it's a condition called autogynephilia which people don't talk about that's a sexual
01:34:56.500 disorder and so there are some excellent therapists out there that that do all right so good therapy i want
01:35:04.540 to pick it up there that i mean you'd have to get rid of other issues first and then go in i i want to
01:35:12.960 talk to you about what it was like and then your transition back to a man which they say is a very
01:35:18.780 rare procedure when we come back
01:35:22.180 this is the glenn beck program mercury
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01:35:35.560 walt heyer is uh with us waltheyer.com h e y e r uh a guy who has just led an incredible life
01:35:47.600 uh started off young grandma cross-dressing him uh he says that planted the seed or flan fame of
01:35:56.020 fan the flames of desire physically abused by his father sexually abused by his uncle
01:36:01.580 was uh diagnosed with uh personality disorders uh then was a very early um adopter of being
01:36:14.420 transgendered back in the 1980s when
01:36:18.100 it must have been
01:36:20.560 you were remarkably
01:36:22.640 alone walt
01:36:23.680 um
01:36:24.820 this was the time wasn't it where
01:36:26.980 i mean that's early for america to doing the doing this i think
01:36:30.960 growing up when i was growing up in the
01:36:33.460 70s
01:36:34.360 that it was all in sweden or someplace wasn't it
01:36:37.700 right yeah the dr biber in trinidad colorado was the kind of the sex change capital of the
01:36:44.460 of the united states and uh by the time i had gone there he had he'd done uh it sounds like a lot
01:36:51.280 10 but about 2800 or 2700 um so he was well on his way he'd started in the late 70s doing
01:37:00.080 the procedure so he was pumping them out uh almost daily
01:37:04.360 so when you had a sex change i don't need to get graphic here but
01:37:10.940 um all the parts were changed what is that like
01:37:15.860 walt well you know you know at first you think this is this is good and this is the way you should
01:37:22.600 be and then you realize that um you've just been mutilated totally unnecessarily because
01:37:29.340 people didn't look at the um the early childhood issues so that's devastating and it's hard to deal
01:37:36.360 with and then you realize uh back in those days they didn't have um you know good uh surgeons who
01:37:44.500 could do anything to replace uh the destruction and uh it was extremely expensive and i was uh
01:37:53.200 financially destitute and so um you know there's some things you just weren't able to do uh so you
01:38:01.020 transition back in as many ways as you possibly can but even today um many of the what they call
01:38:09.280 phalloplasty which is putting things back together isn't totally uh it's not going to function as it once
01:38:17.260 did and so that can actually be another deeper psychological issue uh after you detransition
01:38:24.480 and have the surgery some of them uh reports are that they work fairly well uh other reports is they
01:38:31.420 don't so it's a kind of a mixed bag well you wouldn't have any feeling down there i mean it's it's
01:38:37.500 and you've taken away um uh i mean chemically in many ways some of the things that that make you
01:38:46.280 a man yeah well you know one of the things glenn that i i came to the conclusion that um appendage
01:38:55.540 did not make me a man um no i i understand a man i hate to get i mean i just don't want to get
01:39:00.620 graphic but i mean you know right there are things involved that you know yeah yeah so so uh you know
01:39:09.340 it isn't um it isn't totally replaceable let's just put it yeah so walt what was it
01:39:16.100 when you when you had transitioned to a woman you say it lasted for a while this euphoria
01:39:23.460 and then it kind of started to go back to the way it was to where you're like i am
01:39:29.420 what because you had thought you were a woman or you just be happier as a woman
01:39:34.500 before i thought i would be much happier as a woman but then you realize that um the the same
01:39:40.720 thing glenn kind of happens over again you you at a i don't remember what point it was but
01:39:46.300 a point on down the road you realize now you're a man trapped in a woman's body how do you fix that
01:39:52.220 and and this is the reason for this is because you never really resolved the original issues that
01:39:59.880 caused you to not want to be who you are and so i think that's the core issue we need to look at this
01:40:05.120 is people not wanting to be who they really are and attempt to become someone who they cannot be i
01:40:10.480 have to tell you i can't i cannot imagine i mean look you know i said this last week and we've we've
01:40:19.500 had this for a long time i you know what that is between you uh and your maker and whatever you know
01:40:27.280 i i just am not going to judge people um uh and i can't imagine living um the life that you have
01:40:35.940 lived i i thank god i haven't had to um but you have come out of it uh on the other side um happy and
01:40:46.540 and whole and and finally at at peace um but there are i i can't imagine that people wouldn't say
01:40:56.620 hey let's overturn every stone before we start doing this let's just make sure that this is what's
01:41:06.280 really going on with you before we take some really dramatic to to push that all underneath the rug is
01:41:14.880 is sickening to me but at the same time walt you have said more things i know this show is going to
01:41:22.820 show up on all of the lefty sites and going to say that i've had a hate monger on and that i am bigoted
01:41:30.740 and and everything else when i've not heard anything but compassion for from you compassion from us
01:41:37.560 and you but you have said some controversial things that nobody wants to say like it's uh not you're not
01:41:46.380 born that way right yeah and and you know glenn i wouldn't be here today let's let's just take it
01:41:54.640 for what it is it's jesus and my 31 years of sober living that make this possible and so once uh i came
01:42:04.500 to know the lord and and got sober uh things began to fall into place so i understand that people and i
01:42:11.020 struggled when i didn't have those two things in place so um me too i know they're going to a lot
01:42:17.200 of people who are not going to like what i have to say but i'm concerned about the number of people
01:42:22.760 who are attempting suicide and that's why i speak out because i hate to see that i know that i was one
01:42:29.500 of them who attempted suicide and my heart breaks for them that they become so confused and so in just
01:42:37.880 entrenched into this whole transgender life that they just want to kill themselves i mean that
01:42:42.420 to me should stop the hormones and surgeries right in their tracks until like you said they should turn
01:42:50.180 over every stone you're so correct in that well they're they're over every stone until you go to aa
01:42:56.520 i mean as a recovering alcoholic you know you'll go to a doctor and they'll treat you with all kinds of
01:43:01.980 stuff they'll give you all kinds of drugs and everything else to help you through whatever it is but
01:43:06.760 until you uh until you turn and find a higher power and you start doing the 12 steps and realize
01:43:16.120 there's something in you um you know you can say it's a disease all you want i don't care i don't
01:43:23.580 care if i was born this way there were there are tons of alcoholics in my family and there are tons of
01:43:30.100 people that have committed suicide or at least it seems like that in my head um you know in my family
01:43:35.720 that have killed themselves um if i was born that way fine i'm born that way but it doesn't matter to
01:43:43.560 me because i know what has helped and aa and going through and plowing through the whole life and making
01:43:53.460 peace and then serving uh is the answer at least for me and millions of other people it sounds like it's
01:44:03.660 the same kind of thing that you're saying exactly you know and we talk about doing the same thing
01:44:10.440 over and over again as insanity well here we are with the transgender surgeries and hormones they've
01:44:15.860 known since 1979 that people attempt suicide and they're still attempting suicide today and they're
01:44:21.580 still giving hormones and surgery to people i mean that's insanity waltz are you are you completely
01:44:26.700 comfortable in your own skin now or do you feel like a man oh absolutely so yeah so so those those
01:44:35.520 feelings none of that lingered then you've overcome no no lingering wow how is how when did you meet
01:44:43.640 your wife and how did you go through all of this with her well i was actually speaking at a
01:44:50.220 uh an aa meeting a recovery meeting and she had nudged a friend that she was there with and said
01:44:56.100 that's the kind of guy i want he's been through all this stuff and he's out the other side you know
01:45:00.960 so uh we started seeing each other and and um so we knew each other for about five years before we got
01:45:07.840 married and um so we like i said we were married in may 20 years and so it's wonderful i mean she is uh
01:45:17.480 you know just my my companion my rock uh she edits all my books and all my writing and and so supportive
01:45:25.760 of what i do and she's just fantastic you know i i looked at your uh website uh during one of the
01:45:33.080 breaks and um i see the people who are there who are you know have transitioned to women and now want
01:45:40.740 to transition back and the the heartbreak there um at what point uh walt did you i just talked to
01:45:55.220 somebody who said to me you know i i don't talk about my alcoholism glenn i i know you do but i i
01:46:00.860 don't really talk about it at all i i i don't see any good that comes of that and i've said well you
01:46:07.440 know to each his own i for me i've seen tremendous good come from that um because i'm not hiding it and
01:46:13.280 i don't care and and it helps other people um and uh at what point in your life did you say
01:46:23.480 i don't care if people know that i want to be a woman uh i don't care if people know that i want to
01:46:30.840 go back to being a man and i don't care that the world seems against me on political correctness
01:46:38.380 i'm going to say it was was there a one turning point in your life well yeah i think when i i when
01:46:46.160 we started the website um about 12 years ago and i thought i was probably the only person in the entire
01:46:53.000 world that regretted it and then all of a sudden um within you know that first year we realized we got
01:47:00.200 700 people came to the website that first year and you know one person contacted us and i thought
01:47:07.080 okay well i'm not alone well to give you an idea 2015 350 000 people came to the website and now we
01:47:16.300 have people contacting us uh frequently from around the world and the united states canada australia
01:47:22.740 italy everywhere who are struggling with these issues because we're really giving them the wrong
01:47:29.200 information about what and how to treat gender issues and so i'm i'm excited today that i can
01:47:37.940 lend an ear to it you know i can't change what uh you know the powerful groups are doing but uh if i can
01:47:45.260 help one person if i can prevent one person from committing suicide which i've already done
01:47:50.860 if i can prevent somebody from totally unnecessary surgery then you know my life has meaning and and
01:47:57.660 that's why i'm here if you had one message for somebody um or a parent that was struggling with
01:48:05.860 this what would the message be well anytime somebody is announcing that they are transgender someone
01:48:15.360 needs to begin to look back and see when that onset of that desire that feeling that struggle
01:48:23.580 and begin to explore what caused it was it a traumatic event was it an illness was it uh something always
01:48:32.060 has happened in somebody's life that caused them to not want to be who they are and then they began
01:48:38.680 looking around for a way to escape and uh what i want to do is let people know that they don't need
01:48:46.020 to escape they they need to face whatever issue it is get effective sound psychotherapy and avoid
01:48:53.540 hormones avoid unnecessary surgery turn your life around and you're going to be far better off than
01:49:01.020 struggling with the issues of a lifetime of hormone therapy and surgery that mutilated your body
01:49:07.940 wald hire thank you very much for talking to us today appreciate it sir god bless
01:49:13.020 thank you remarkable life yeah whether you agree with him or not i mean what an experience oh my gosh
01:49:22.480 and he's going to be bashed so are we for having him on i'm sure but uh you can't say that that guy
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01:49:36.080 when he was when he came out and announced i have the same feeling about bruce jenner you know when he
01:49:43.040 was bruce and he came out and said i i i'm caitlin i mean i feel the same way how are you going to argue
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01:51:54.160 boy this was just such a uh heartbreaking hour um but fascinating one thing we have failed to
01:52:04.980 mention at any length is charlie guard's passing um our our thoughts and prayers are with his family
01:52:13.960 such a tragic story and one that deserves some of our time tomorrow um i think tomorrow maybe we
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