America Isn’t Evil | Guests: Michael Knowles & Niger Innis | 6⧸19⧸20
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2 hours and 8 minutes
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146.98091
Summary
Aunt Jemima is off the shelves, and nooses have been found in a public park in Oakland, CA, and the mayor of Oakland is investigating it as a hate crime. Glenn Beck responds to the latest in the Black Lives Matter movement.
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What you're about to hear is the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.
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We've lost African Americans' favorite syrup, believe it or not.
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Aunt Jemima is now completely pulled off of the shelves.
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Because a bunch of white people thought that that would be offensive.
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And so they're going to, they're going to, they're going to help the poor black people out because they don't, they don't even know what they like.
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The stepmother of the police officer charged in Rayshard Brooks' shooting was fired yesterday from her job.
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And nooses that have been found hanging in the trees at Lake Merritt.
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The Oakland mayor, Libby Schaaf, said she's investigating this as a hate crime.
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And the guy who put them up in the park is black.
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She said, I want to be clear, regardless of the intentions of whoever put these nooses in our public trees, our sacred public space here in Oakland, intentions don't matter.
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I want to play quickly some audio that came from Seattle and Ami Horowitz talking to one of the leaders of this Black Lives Matter group.
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Every single day that I show up here, I'm not here to peacefully protest.
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You cannot rebuild until you break it all the way down.
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Respond to the demands of the people, or prepare to be met with any means necessary.
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Where are the men and women of God that know what is actually happening right here, right now,
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and have the guts to stand up and lead this nation back to common sense, to kindness, to the Ten Commandments,
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the golden rule, everything our parents and grandparents taught us,
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all the things that that simple man from Nazareth taught.
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But, I want you to listen to me really carefully.
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If good men and women do not stand up, if they continue to do nothing,
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the freedom we all enjoy, as well as the hope of freedom,
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now only dreamt about by the 40 million men, women, and children who are actual slaves today,
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those who have been taken, ripped from their families so they could be sold to the highest bidder,
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and that doesn't even include the political prisoners,
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those who are persecuted because of their faith, their sexuality, their race,
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That small flicker of hope that those people hold on to,
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And we will become more dark and terrible than any of the totalitarian states Karl Marx could have ever imagined.
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Those of you who know what's good and healthy for your grandchildren,
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You know your grandchildren's biggest threat comes from the streets, the gangs, the drugs, and the loss of God.
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Do you realize that only 16% of the American public,
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and that's white and black, Republican, Democrat,
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only 16% of the American public are actually for defunding the police.
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Because you and I both know what life in the cities would mean without a police force.
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and all those who are the most vulnerable will suffer the worst.
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or listen to people like I just played for you,
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it's all about to be lost with a yawn and a whimper.
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Have we all been so hypnotized and so misled by social media
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they're now demanding that the statue of Columbus be taken down.
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But there is more to this gift of life and freedom
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that we have been granted here in this country.
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I've lived this gift far more than my fair share.
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as Martin Luther King or Abraham Lincoln stood.
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up get up get up get out of your slumber admit that
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he's been charged with murder murder in fact his
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stepmother or his is it his stepmother or yeah I
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think it is his his stepmother has been fired I
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think only because she was the stepmother of this
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cop really welcome to America 2020 gang things are
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completely out of control now the the Georgia Bureau of
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they've been investigating they haven't even turned
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anything in yet and the DA has just decided I'm going
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because that wasn't murder but I guess it doesn't
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political life he's currently under investigation by
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$140,000 in city of Atlanta funds to supplement his
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salary oh yeah and he's also facing multiple sexual
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harassment lawsuits this guy's a prince and then
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there's this the state ethics commission is alleging
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that Howard committed a dozen violations of public
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violations spanning for five years so it kind of puts
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into perspective why this guy is using the emotions of
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African Americans to go so tough on the cops oh man a man
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on probation who failed a sobriety test who had who had
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just left prison for beating children he fought and
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attacked the police stole one of their weapons it was a taser and
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fired it at them I'm curious what the hell did the DA expect the
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police to do what what was it what would have justified deadly force
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in his mind what if the taser fired by Brooks would have
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incap incapacitated one of the officers what if Brooks then went
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back and picked up their gun because that's why the police have to use
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deadly force once they get any kind of weapon and one of the officers is
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down all of it was possible and it all happened in the in about a
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two-second span the DA said the shooting was unjustified
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because tasers aren't considered deadly weapons
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wow really because that's not what he believed two weeks ago when he charged
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six police officers with aggravated assault for using a taser against
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protesters I want you to listen to what he said just a couple of weeks ago
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calls and charged with aggravated assault of Miss Pilgrim and this is for
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pointing a taser at Mrs. Pilgrim and as many of you all know under Georgia law a
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taser is considered as a deadly weapon under Georgia law ah so he these police
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officers pointed a taser this guy actually shot a cop with his own taser and now it's
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not a deadly weapon now either he's had a change of heart or he changes his
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stance on deadly force whenever it fits his political ambitions I think it's
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pretty clear to see which one it is an officer involved shootings the Georgia
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Bureau of Investigation is required to investigate and submit a report to the
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district attorney but the DA didn't consult with the GBI their formal statement
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yesterday said GBI was not aware of the press conference before it was conducted
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we were not consulted on the charges filed by the district attorney despite today's
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occurrence the GBI will complete its mission of completing an impartial and
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thorough investigation of this incident and it will submit the file once
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completed to the Fulton County district attorney's office but see he can't wait
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because he's waiting for re-election he hopes that the GBI will come back and
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say what are you doing so he can be the man as a black man a very corrupt black
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official who is ripping his own people off taking money from the city illegally oh
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he's gonna be oh he's fighting for you oh sure because he's fighting multiple sexual
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harassment lawsuits a formal investigation by the GBI fighting off official ethics
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complaints he's just gonna weaponize he's gonna weaponize this story why because he
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Atlanta cops I don't know why you're still on the job I really don't they're calling in
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sick some of them refusing to answer calls some of them I don't blame you at all I
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I think you're you're being used your lambs led to the slaughter by somebody who's supposed
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to be on your side and all because of dirty corrupt politics do you know that Atlanta already has a
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hard time getting officers to join the Atlanta police they already have you know what you know
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who they've started to interview and hire because they can't get anybody convicted felons can now
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become police officers in Atlanta oh that's gonna work out really well really well
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people aren't looking for the truth anymore do you hear the story coming out of Oakland
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mayor Libby Schaaf oh well I think I might just have a case of the the vapors uh I'm Libby Schaaf
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and I just I can't tolerate these nooses hanging from the trees at Lake Merritt whoa wait what
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Oakland somebody's hanging nooses from the trees now there is a serious problem that is a real sign
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of racism that's a problem okay I'm all in Mayor Libby well Mayor Libby says I'm gonna I'm gonna
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investigate this as a hate crime well was it because the guy who hung the quote-unquote nooses
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uh said they're not nooses uh that's part of my exercise equipment well Libby says well I just don't
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know what you're saying these have no place in our city at any time but especially at this time
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these incidents are going to be investigated as a hate crime meanwhile the guy who put them up said
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wait a minute no that's not what they are I I work out in the park these these are this is actually
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part of my exercise equipment well I don't I just want you to be clear here I want you to listen to
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me it doesn't matter and I am quoting regardless of your intentions or whoever put these nooses in
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our public trees well I did and they're not nooses hear me out whoever put these nooses in our public
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trees in our sacred public spaces here in Oakland oh the attention the intention just doesn't matter
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wait the intention doesn't matter okay well I've heard facts don't matter I've heard that we know
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the intent of the person who did it we know that but now intentions don't matter so facts don't matter
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and intentions don't matter uh the person stepping up and saying I'm the one who did it doesn't matter
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the guy who exercises in the park using those things which is why he put them in the trees
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they're not nooses and by the way he's a black man that doesn't matter it is a hate crime
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the insanity that the democrats brought on to the african-american in the 1800s all the way through
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the 1960s all of the all of the double talk bull crap all of the things they did to oppress black
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people they're doing the same thing now why I I just don't know what you're talking about
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oh my what do you say we sit here spell and have some iced tea
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no thanks racists I know what you're doing to african-americans and it's despicable
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so from our oakland mayor who doesn't have any any desire to actually find the truth except the
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one she's looking for to the da who doesn't find it doesn't care if they find a truth doesn't care
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if he doesn't convict these people he's going to go for the worst and then when he loses he will just
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stir it up and I was the only defender there for you but all he's trying to do is to get you to
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niger inis he is a civil rights leader national chairman congress of racial equality
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we thought we would get him on we've been trying to get him on for a while i i really respect his voice
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um and his bravery uh for standing up now and talking about things that nobody really wants to
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hear except i think the american people that are honestly trying to solve uh race relations and
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trying to get trying to get us to move forward and everything that is happening i believe is setting
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us way back niger how are you good morning uh glenn it's great to be on with you
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thank you so please please explain to me what's happening to the black community
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or do they do they actually agree with like what's happening in atlanta we all agree on
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minnesota but do they actually agree with what's happening in atlanta and what's happening now in
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our cities is that the majority of black americans no i don't think it's the majority but it is
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extremely loud uh minority that gets facilitated by the mainstream media uh into making people
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believe that it's uh an actual majority uh in the black community the reality is uh most of us in the
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black community uh while many of us sympathize with the rank and file protesters the overwhelming
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majority of which i think want to be peaceful and are uh you know trying to protect black lives uh
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the overwhelming majority of us do not support violence we do not support burning down of a
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wendy's that had absolutely nothing to do with that uh that that tragedy that tragic case in atlanta
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and listen i was talking to another black leader and he was saying you know young what what's going
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on in our cities right now what's going on in our country right now where you create this animus
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between the police and the community in particular among young black men and uh the police is a clear
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and present danger to the lives and the safety of young black men it's a very dangerous time he was
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very very very very concerned well i'm concerned because this is this is a generational thing uh and
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i think the next generation that's coming up behind this one is not going to be having the same kind of
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opinion um if we make it that far uh and you know what what are you going to do with this whole generation
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that is embracing marxism and truly just trying to destroy the western way of life that's all this
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is really about there there are like you said i think really honest protesters black white yellow
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everybody that really see and say you know we we want justice we want justice for everybody and
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everybody should be treated equal and i think there are a lot of good people but they're not paying
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attention to who's leading these things and who's funding these things and what they stand for
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they're being used niger absolutely they are useful uh dudes they're innocent their heart is in the
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right place but they're being used uh like you said the founders of the blm movement uh elisa
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garza and the two others are very open i mean here's the thing glenn it's not me saying bad things about
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them it's not you saying bad things about them it's what they say about themselves they are self-identified
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queer marxist feminists with a particular agenda and if you don't believe glenn beck don't believe
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niger in us just go to the black lives matter website and you will see uh uh from root and branch
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you will see the entire marxist playbook from deconstructing the nuclear family which by the way
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is the one institution the nuclear family one dad one mom in a household raising children
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that is the one institution that saved the black community for decades before the civil rights
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revolution and and and you know what's in who's another person you should have on very soon a great
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civil rights icon actually a peer of my father he says that in 1965 before the war on poverty
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85 percent of black children were being raised in households with one dad and one mom and 80 if i'm not
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the matter pardon no i was just gonna say if i'm not mistaken didn't they have a better uh family
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stronger family unit than white in the early 1960s yes in the in the great depression all the way to the
01:35:59.380
beginning of the war on poverty the uh in child uh the the nuclear families in black communities was
01:36:07.440
higher percentage than the average white family and tragically i think lyndon baines johnson his heart
01:36:13.460
might have been in the right place but actually the war on poverty ended up being a war on on the black
01:36:20.060
family and the breakdown of the black family is a direct connection to the uh socioeconomic ills
01:36:28.420
in the black community that we have had ever since and that we have today
01:36:32.400
so niger can i say something kind of controversial that i don't have any evidence of i've wanted to do
01:36:38.620
the research on this and write a book but i just i i don't have the time uh at least yet but maybe
01:36:44.500
before i die um i really believe johnson was one of the worst racists ever i mean he's the guy who
01:36:51.700
stopped the civil rights act in 1959 uh never never never if you look at what he said even when he was
01:36:59.300
president the way he spoke about blacks and the and he was just an out and out racist and i find it
01:37:07.060
interesting that he's the guy that delivers this and that this the progressive movement was
01:37:14.420
also you know through through planned parenthood trying to kill african americans for years for
01:37:20.340
decades and then all of a sudden all of these people they come together and they come up with
01:37:27.780
a great society to help inner cities when the results are slavery the results are devastating to
01:37:36.820
the black community do you think there's a possibility that any of these guys knew exactly what they were
01:37:43.460
doing when they when they put this civil rights uh bill together in the or the great society do you
01:37:51.700
think there was a chance that they knew i think some of the progressives definitely did i actually
01:37:58.820
think johnson who grew up a segregationist i do believe he had a legitimate change of heart and he
01:38:06.740
really did want to do something for poor blacks and whites uh for that matter but there was also
01:38:13.380
a political calculation and it is rumored that during uh the passing of these of this legislation
01:38:20.500
and the war on poverty that johnson said that these in words will be wedded to the democratic party
01:38:28.100
forever and that is insidious and that is disgusting and unfortunately it manifested itself uh quite
01:38:35.300
greatly you know glenn you talked about a couple of days ago i as you can tell i listen to your show
01:38:41.140
not even when i'm on wow thank you very much about you have a great program and and and you've done a
01:38:49.220
great deal of education people should be calling you professor beck because you've done a great deal
01:38:55.380
of civic and historic historic information that the american people are not getting in our schools and you
01:39:01.700
talked about the great booker t washington and when he when he passed away in 1916 how it left a void
01:39:08.900
in the black community in terms of bootstrap conservatism actually uh marcus garvey uh who was a great uh
01:39:16.740
pan-africanist came in and stepped into the void to some degree but he was only in power for maybe five to
01:39:23.780
six seven years after he ended up being deported uh from the country and put in jail um there was a
01:39:32.580
huge void in the black community and the socialists and the progressives latched on to the black community
01:39:39.220
like leeches and had you know and even though the black community for for many decades after that
01:39:44.660
remain republicans uh disproportionately majority of us remain republicans we were certainly pro-capitalist
01:39:52.260
pro-constitution etc inevitably the progressives won uh hopefully it's a temporary victory but there's
01:39:59.780
no question that they came to dominate black politics came to dominate uh black leadership
01:40:06.100
and it manifested itself in that war on poverty which essentially became a war on the black family
01:40:13.140
and and ideologically speaking became a war on the concept that had wedded the black american community
01:40:20.660
to the essence of the united states for decades and that was the thing that that helped us to survive
01:40:30.900
niger how do what do you say to people like me or others that actually do care and i thought we've
01:40:38.900
you know we're never going to achieve the utopian world of all men are created equal and endowed by their
01:40:45.620
creator i mean that is the greatest mission statement of all time and because we're flawed human beings
01:40:51.780
we will ebb and flow but for the most part i really feel that we made great progress and the last 10 or 15
01:41:00.660
years have been a nightmare and we're we're being driven apart and yet there's a lot of americans white americans
01:41:09.380
that they we want to make things better and we want to make sure that everybody has a chance uh
01:41:18.260
what do you say to us who don't know what to do don't know what to say um and and won't kiss the hand or
01:41:28.020
kiss the ring of marxist socialists i say have faith have confidence we've overcome worse and i'm actually i'm
01:41:38.420
tremendously optimistic even though those in the mainstream media and some elements or most elements
01:41:44.900
of what calls itself black leadership have a particular perspective the overwhelming majority
01:41:51.220
of blacks whites hispanics asian americans we get along we just want to go about our lives make a living
01:41:59.060
for our families get our children uh to go to school or to trade school or get a good job
01:42:04.260
um that's what most of us want and the fact of the matter is in terms of a multi-racial
01:42:11.220
multi-ethnic even multi-lingual uh republic that we're in america is not a country it's a miracle
01:42:20.100
i mean you've had the pleasure i've had the honor and privilege of traveling around the world there is
01:42:26.580
nothing like america and the degree to which white americans have changed and evolved and grown
01:42:34.100
since the battle days is a an amazing uh achievement on the part of the united states of america and i
01:42:40.260
think it is because of our constitution it is because of our judeo-christian traditions that keep
01:42:47.060
us on on the right track you know let's go to the the nadir of race relations it would have to be
01:42:53.700
for black americans the plessy versus ferguson decision that uh essentially codified segregation and
01:43:00.580
made it legal throughout the land well there was one dissent and i like to call this guy the
01:43:06.260
grandfather spiritual grandfather of dr martin luther king's uh statement content of character
01:43:12.420
and in that decision it was eight to one okay it was it was almost unanimous but there was one dissenter
01:43:18.740
and that dissenter was john harlan a southerner a southerner that had been pro-slavery a southerner
01:43:26.900
that changed that evolved and grew and by the way in his dissent which i urge all of your
01:43:33.380
listeners to and watchers to read thoroughly it's brilliant but in that dissent he actually says i'm
01:43:40.660
a white supremacist i believe the white man is superior but essentially he said but that does not
01:43:47.220
matter our constitution is a colorblind document it is a document that says that when it comes before the
01:43:55.540
law the highest of the high is equal to the lowest of the low and that dissent a thousand years from
01:44:03.940
now will be looked at historians as one of the greatest this it is i think right now uh considered
01:44:09.700
one of the greatest dissents in our history and that concept and that vision is what dr martin luther
01:44:15.700
king inherited and said from the lincoln memorial when he said we should be judged on the content of our
01:44:22.020
our character not the color of our skin and that concept and that vision is what should give americans
01:44:29.220
optimism and give us hope as we will overcome this this nonsense that we're dealing with talking to the
01:44:35.620
uh national chairman uh congress of uh racial equality niger inis um niger um one last thought
01:44:42.740
are we going to see a a group of people led by a a brave individual use the tactics that martin luther king
01:44:58.820
used because they're violent martin luther king was peaceful are we going to see somebody rise up that
01:45:07.940
will teach people how to link arms and walk through the jaws of hell and take a beating if that's what
01:45:14.900
it means because the american people need to see as martin luther king said when the american people are
01:45:22.020
shown good versus evil side by side they will always go with good absolutely and i think it's not going to be
01:45:31.300
one i think it's going to be several of us that might i don't think it's going to be limited to one
01:45:36.180
race i think it's going to be a multi-racial coalition that represents the true majority of
01:45:42.500
americans that love our country that love our constitution that have a very happy that we have
01:45:49.060
the judeo-christian tradition that we have and we rest upon that regardless of what your faith may be
01:45:54.740
it is that tradition that protects us that tradition the ten commandments which are universal in terms of
01:46:02.500
morality that's what under guides us that's what gives us the foundation that we will use to achieve
01:46:08.980
victory niger when you find that group or when that group starts i would be honored to march next or
01:46:20.020
behind anyone that actually believes the things that martin luther king did uh and march with you
01:46:26.980
right through the jaws of hell please can please consider me an ally on that absolutely glenn you're
01:46:34.340
you're a good friend a good ally and you've done a great great deal to educate the american people in
01:46:40.100
ways that unfortunately many of our public schools don't do anymore yeah thank you so much really
01:46:46.980
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this is the glenbeck program i'm so glad that you joined us i i i read a story last night before i
01:51:24.260
went to bed and i just could not believe it i mean you want to talk about you want to talk about uh
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uh and frank and anti-semitism and the fear that jews had uh back in the 30s
01:51:44.340
you can point pretty much to de blasio and new york i mean when there is a story that i read last
01:51:52.660
night oh you know about the park right that they they chain the park up and while everybody is looting
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macy's the de blasio is making an example out of this jewish community that are letting their kids
01:52:05.940
uh you know play in the park so he locks it up they've de blasio has targeted them for funerals
01:52:13.700
and everything else and he's always targeting these religious communities well on 10 10 it was a 10 10 wins
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or um i think it was 10 10 wins the the two hosts in the morning got a tip from a neighbor of some jews
01:52:32.740
that noticed the jews were going to school and it's dangerous and 10 10 wins has led this investigation
01:52:44.340
when riots are happening on the streets when people are going out in parades in the streets
01:52:53.780
this small little orthodox jewish school is open and being spied on by the neighbors when we when we
01:53:01.620
do know one thing about covid the least likely to have any kind of harm our kids our kids are safe
01:53:11.700
safe but no no and i i said to myself last night i cannot believe that they are this group is they
01:53:20.340
are so under uh the gun uh by de blasio and and the state of new york and they're always singled out
01:53:31.060
and with all the other stuff that's going on with religious liberty i can't believe there's not a lawsuit
01:53:35.540
well there is a lawsuit uh and uh we have one of the guys uh he's special counsel for the thomas
01:53:44.340
more society his name is christopher ferrara hi christopher how are you hi glenn thanks for having
01:53:50.980
me on i appreciate the opportunity you bet now you are a catholic society um and you have joined with
01:53:59.060
this orthodox community uh they and a couple of rabbis and a couple of priests if i'm not mistaken
01:54:06.900
and you're suing new york tell me about it that's right we're suing on behalf of a couple of catholic
01:54:13.220
priests in new york's north country which is up by the canadian border and several practitioners of the
01:54:19.700
orthodox jewish religion in brooklyn which is down south but in south and the south we're in phase one
01:54:25.540
moving into phase two of this cockamamie reopening plan which has done nothing but destroy jobs
01:54:31.780
and in the northern section which is in phase three uh we have somewhat looser restrictions on
01:54:38.100
gatherings but nevertheless religious gatherings in the state of new york are subject to peculiar
01:54:43.220
restrictions so indoors right now they're limited to 25 percent of capacity the only such limitation in
01:54:53.220
all of the capacity limitations in this plan various offices and other businesses are either at 50
01:54:59.220
capacity indoors or 100 capacity indoors including homeless shelters for example so we're arguing in
01:55:06.180
federal court that there's a discriminatory application of these guidelines that impacts
01:55:11.300
religion adversely and now with the george floord demonstrations thousands and thousands of people
01:55:18.500
thronging the brooklyn bridge the manhattan bridge mayor de blasio participating in a huge rally at
01:55:25.380
cabinet plaza we're arguing that those demonstrations quite simply exposed the whole regulatory regime is a
01:55:32.260
total sham it's all theater because there's nothing worse in terms of a a super spreading event than
01:55:39.940
thousands of people standing shoulder to shoulder screaming and yelling and that's what they're permitting and when
01:55:46.340
they're asked about it blasio and court and cuomo both essentially say and we have quotes from
01:55:52.340
transcripts that well this is such an important movement you see this is a protest and injustice
01:55:58.660
and so we have to allow it and you know what fine that's the first amendment protected activity
01:56:04.180
the argument we're making now is yeah and the argument we're making now though is yes fine let them protest
01:56:09.940
but don't pretend that you're enforcing a general and neutrally a generally applicable and neutral law
01:56:16.740
at this point because you're not you're creating massive exceptions for the protest activities you
01:56:22.020
favor and you're discriminating against in particular jewish groups in brooklyn so at this very moment
01:56:28.340
while they're allowing mass demonstrations in the lower in the lower part of the state in manhattan
01:56:33.860
they're chasing jewish children out of parks in brooklyn and they're chain lodging parks
01:56:40.260
so so christopher why do you think of 30 or 40 why do you why do you think this is happening why do you
01:56:47.460
do you think that it is anti-religion anti-semitism or or do they not even believe what the the the
01:56:56.020
stuff that they've been shoveling for a while why is this happening like this you know we don't even
01:57:02.660
have to get to the question of whether they harbor any specific animus toward religion what we do have
01:57:08.180
to show is what is quite obvious now at this point that they're favoring secular activities over
01:57:14.260
religious activities for whatever reason so they make value judgments in favor of protests and they
01:57:20.180
make value judgments in favor of certain businesses and other activities and they don't make the same
01:57:26.020
value judgments in favor of religion well that means that the scheme of regulations is neither
01:57:31.620
generally applicable nor neutral now what does that mean legally it means that if you have a system of
01:57:37.700
exemptions and prohibition and the impact is on religion you have to have a compelling state interest
01:57:44.260
for that and the regulations have to be narrowly tailored so that you don't harm religion any more
01:57:50.580
than is absolutely necessary well there's no narrow and if they what's the narrow right if they would have
01:57:56.180
come out and said uh hey you we understand your first amendment rights we don't condone this we urge
01:58:03.780
you to stay inside and they were saying consistently the same kind of stuff but they would have had out of
01:58:09.780
a crackdown on it because that's what they've been doing to the the uh religious community if they would
01:58:15.780
have done that you would have a hard case but what they chose to do instead how is this going to spend more
01:58:22.340
than 10 minutes in court well there's an obvious problem and it's a huge problem and they can't
01:58:28.340
overcome it so like i said a few moments ago the fact that they granted this massive exception for
01:58:33.620
tremendous demonstrations thronging bridges and plazas destroys the whole public health
01:58:39.380
rationale for this entire cockamamie scheme of regulations which is increasingly ridiculous by the
01:58:44.180
way as the days go by for example you look at the uh the office guidelines now for phase two
01:58:49.940
you're in an office you have to be six feet away from all the other employees in the office
01:58:54.180
and if any of them comes closer than six feet you have to slap a mask on your face right away
01:58:59.220
and then when the employee gets further away than six feet you take the mask off mask off
01:59:03.540
how are you supposed to operate an office like that it's just a a contraption of bureaucratic
01:59:09.220
contrivances that gets dreamt up in some office somewhere so you're right about that point if they
01:59:16.100
had said well we'll just tolerate this because we can't do anything about it but you really should
01:59:19.940
stay home that will be one thing but they're still defending it as just in itself that there are these
01:59:25.460
mass demonstrations just a couple of days ago june 16th the mayor was asked point blank how do you
01:59:32.420
justify allowing these massive protests when you don't let people gather outside bars and you know what
01:59:37.940
he said i'll quote it for you i understand when people ask that and i think we just have to keep it in
01:59:43.540
perspective we're seeing a social movement growing before our very eyes that's addressing 400 years
01:59:48.820
of oppressive reality in this country etc etc so so in other words this is such an important movement
01:59:54.340
well we just have to allow but you can't congregate outside of a bar with 10 or 20 people uh so we'll
02:00:01.060
allow 50 000 to march but no none of these block parties please because we have to enforce social
02:00:06.820
distancing so that's why i say the whole thing is being exposed as a sham when it was put to the test
02:00:12.900
of neutrality with a protest movement it collapsed and now we see what it really is just a bunch of
02:00:19.060
value judgments masquerading as a public health uh regiment to meet with an emergency and it's not that at all
02:00:30.660
so what is the goal of the the lawsuit i mean what what what is the i think best thing that
02:00:40.980
we could expect coming out of this what would what would it change well let's talk about the outdoors
02:00:47.700
first in new jersey governor murphy did the same thing he led these protests he praised these protests
02:00:53.460
he said they're so important we just have to allow them but when the public outcry came he at least had
02:00:59.140
the honesty with executive order 152 to say that okay all outdoor gatherings are now conducted without
02:01:08.260
limitation if they're for religious or political purpose so he said basically oh what was i thinking
02:01:15.300
yes everybody has first amendment rights to demonstrate outdoors or engage your religion
02:01:20.740
outdoors so we're saying in the new york suit the governor of new york and the mayor of new york city
02:01:26.340
should have the intellectual honesty to do the same thing so there should no longer be any restriction
02:01:31.460
whatsoever on any kind of outdoor gathering it just isn't justified there haven't been any spikes
02:01:37.380
that we know of following these massive demonstrations and so where's the scientific
02:01:43.540
or public health rationale it's gone so zero limitation outdoors what about indoors well
02:01:49.940
we're arguing that if you can let home homeless shelters operate at 100 capacity and they're filled
02:01:56.580
with the older more vulnerable populations who are sleeping overnight in the shelters or in the
02:02:02.900
drop-in shelters and staying there all day long in close quarters then how can you say
02:02:08.500
that a synagogue or a church should be limited to 25 capacity doesn't make any sense so we're
02:02:15.540
arguing that the indoor restrictions should be eliminated and we should be treated the same as
02:02:21.220
the most favored businesses under the scheme for example supermarkets bagel shops how's this for
02:02:27.700
irony there's a bagel shop across the street from one of the synagogues in brooklyn bagel shop is
02:02:33.620
packed with people you go across the street to the synagogue it was 10 people only before and now they say
02:02:40.180
25 capacity which by the way is with many of these small synagogues that's the same thing because
02:02:46.260
they only hold about 40 people so we're asking for a parity of treatment treat religion the same as
02:02:51.540
the favorite businesses indoors drop all the outdoor gathering limitations because they've basically
02:02:57.540
already done that so there's no justification for picking and choosing which groups of people get to
02:03:02.660
congregate outdoors christopher ferrara thank you so much he's with the thomas moore society uh and
02:03:11.140
fighting uh for your religious freedoms uh at least in new york and may there be a thousand of these
02:03:19.060
that are brought around the country christopher thank you so much you're welcome
02:03:31.460
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the mercury one museum is about to open in uh in dallas the first uh um iteration of it uh first step
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towards a large museum and we have the space to keep these statues and they need to be preserved
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please reach out to mercury one dot org if you are a city and you have any of these statues
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and you don't know what to do with them or somebody's going to take them and destroy them
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please get them to us mercury one dot org i don't care who it is but these george washington statues
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i mean i will put it in my main atrium of my building that would be an honor to have a george
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washington statue it would be great uh and uh this is just shameful just shameful what's going on
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glenn i did yesterday on studios america acquire a box of aunt jemima pancake mix would this be
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something that you'd want to maybe put into the archives okay yes it is i'm gonna eat it first but
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you can have the box oh shoot not so interested okay not so interested now uh yeah i mean all of
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these things are going to be historic items the cream of wheat package mrs buttersworth or butterworth
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uh all of these things that are being pulled off the shelves please save any of those and get them to
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us we'll preserve them mercury one dot org glenn beck program