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00:00:00.000 On the podcast today, the Bubba Effect, Insider Q&A, also family drama in politics, Vivek

00:00:11.000 and Amy, the attack in Ohio.

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00:00:47.940 all right so yesterday we talked about the bubble effect and i think there's a lot of

00:01:08.860 misunderstanding of what the bubba effect is um and this is not a term that i made up this is

00:01:14.480 something I learned from special forces around 2004. This is an actual, this is, you know,

00:01:20.840 this is this part of history. You can see it happen over and over and over again in revolutions,

00:01:25.280 and it's very, very dangerous. So let me explain a little bit more through your questions that

00:01:31.160 came in to me yesterday. Glenn, this is from Kyle and Rebecca and Scott and a few other people.

00:01:38.300 Glenn, we have voted for decades, and it only gets worse. We have no representation. All we

00:01:43.480 have left is baba okay i understand that frustration i have felt it but voting isn't the only tool and

00:01:51.100 it was never supposed to be the only tool school boards county commissioners sheriffs state

00:01:57.620 legislatures this is where the country is truly won or lost and most people don't show up for

00:02:04.700 any of it. And the other side does all the time. And if the other side is now talking about civil

00:02:14.540 war, what is the worst thing you can do? Fight on the terms they want. You know they have been

00:02:23.640 itching for a fight. They have wanted, they've spent 25 years calling you every name under the

00:02:30.680 son to get you to respond. Why is that the wrong thing to do? Because you don't beat lawlessness

00:02:36.960 by becoming lawless. You beat it by becoming more organized and the most organized people

00:02:43.560 in the room. Next question from Jaws, Wazd, Al2374, and Danger Mouse. Glenn, the government

00:02:56.520 has already broke the Constitution.

00:02:59.180 Bubba is just enforcing

00:03:00.520 the law it abandoned.

00:03:02.780 Okay.

00:03:08.760 If the

00:03:10.400 problem is that the government

00:03:11.880 has stopped following the rules,

00:03:14.760 then would the answer be

00:03:18.220 we should stop following the rules too?

00:03:21.080 Because wouldn't that put

00:03:22.440 us in a position where nobody has rules?

00:03:24.440 free speech protest refusing to comply with an unconstitutional order that is all american and

00:03:32.980 that is not the bubba effect the bubba effect starts when one man decides that he is judge

00:03:40.420 he is the jury he is the sheriff and the day you appoint yourself that

00:03:45.800 you've done what you're accusing them of i mean why is you know the the guy who went up and and

00:03:52.900 killed the uh the health care official why is that wrong because he appointed himself judge and jury

00:04:00.260 and what did they do yeah well there's a problem and nobody will fix it and so that's the Bubba

00:04:06.700 effect now let's just say we all rise up this is the real problem that I need you to understand

00:04:15.620 let's say you all rise up everybody rises up everybody's in the Bubba effect

00:04:20.740 Can I ask you, what is the plan from there?

00:04:24.300 Well, we're going to get the bad guys out.

00:04:26.160 Who are the bad guys?

00:04:28.960 And let's say we get all the bad guys out.

00:04:31.560 How have we done that?

00:04:33.960 Did we do that with guns?

00:04:35.820 Did we do that with trials?

00:04:38.460 Who ran the trials?

00:04:40.240 Who picked the judges?

00:04:42.360 When do we know it's time to stop?

00:04:45.780 Are we just hoping that reason will kick in?

00:04:48.700 Because it hasn't so far.

00:04:49.940 I don't know if you've known that. Reason is not getting stronger.

00:04:53.920 You know, when there's blood and a frenzy for blood in the street,

00:04:57.480 show me how or when reason suddenly kicked in before it got horrific.

00:05:05.320 See, this is the key.

00:05:07.840 Going back to the Declaration, when a long train of abuses and usurptations

00:05:12.240 pursuing the same object,

00:05:15.780 convinces a design to reduce the people

00:05:19.020 under absolute despotism.

00:05:21.580 It is their right, it is their duty

00:05:23.560 to throw off such government.

00:05:25.340 That's Bubba.

00:05:26.440 But that's not where it stops.

00:05:29.140 And to provide new guards for their future security.

00:05:33.660 What are the new guards?

00:05:36.040 What are the new rules?

00:05:37.260 We are not talking about...

00:05:39.260 about where Bubba on our side would just say, we're just going to go back to the Constitution,

00:05:44.520 but you can't dismiss the Constitution and then expect to go back to the Constitution.

00:05:53.340 Glenn, what if Bubba is organized, disciplined, and starts with the Constitution? Is it still

00:05:59.300 Bubba? This comes from Lawrence and Caroline and Georgia, Jasper, and Mellow Yellow.

00:06:06.980 the answer here is it still baba no no then it's not baba anymore i want you to go and read about

00:06:16.340 athens tennessee in 1946 this proves it veterans came home they had watched a corrupt machine

00:06:24.360 steal their election in tennessee they had just come back fighting fascism and communism okay

00:06:30.180 they come back they see that their whole town has been taken by a basically a dictator a mob rule

00:06:37.900 they organized they protected the ballot boxes so people will say well that's above effect no no no

00:06:45.560 no no no no first of all they didn't fire on anybody first they defended themselves they

00:06:51.040 defended themselves and what were they defending they were trying to get the ballot box and when

00:06:57.960 they got the ballot box, they didn't break it open. They didn't break it open and do the count

00:07:02.820 themselves. No, they called a higher authority and said, we have the ballot box. We're protecting

00:07:08.340 the lock on the ballot box. We need you to come and be the neutral arbiter to make sure that

00:07:15.080 everything is counted openly and in public. And then they handed the power back to the ballot box

00:07:22.060 and went home. They had a goal. They had a limit. They had an off-ramp. Who decides when the

00:07:30.000 government is wrong? Mellow Yellow is right about this. The people do. Not the government. The

00:07:36.520 people do. But the people decide together through rules that we agree on beforehand.

00:07:42.760 Not one angry guy at a time. Not one mob. If you start to see mob rule on your side, we're done.

00:07:55.820 Glenn, we're too divided to revolt. And when most people agree it isn't Bubba, it's the national

00:08:01.320 mood. Exactly right. When the country moves together as a whole under shared principles,

00:08:08.740 That's a nation making a decision.

00:08:11.240 When we're this divided, Bubba isn't the start of a revolution.

00:08:14.780 He's the start of a feud.

00:08:18.220 Let's see.

00:08:19.180 Glenn, Bubba effect is chaos.

00:08:21.440 Even war has its rules.

00:08:23.480 Yes, that is the warning in one sentence.

00:08:29.360 Glenn, bless beyond Texas. 0.94

00:08:32.020 In North Carolina hurricanes, it was the Bubbas who showed up and saved people before the government did. 0.81

00:08:37.360 That's not the Bubba effect. That's not understanding that this is an official term. I'm not saying Bubba. This is a term. The Bubba effect is a term that has a definition. What you're talking about is neighbors. A man with a boat and a chainsaw pulling families out of floodwater. That's the best of America.

00:08:58.940 I'm not warning about people who build and rescue.

00:09:02.060 I'm warning about people who destroy and punish.

00:09:07.100 Glenn, Jesuits armed the native people to defend against slave raiders.

00:09:12.240 Wasn't that Bubba? 0.55

00:09:13.180 Do you see this sentence?

00:09:14.720 Hoffman, the Jesuits armed the native people to defend against slave raiders.

00:09:22.480 Wasn't that Bubba?

00:09:23.140 No, this is a great example, and it points in the exact opposite direction.

00:09:26.540 The Jesuits in South America, they didn't hand everybody out guns and then say,

00:09:30.960 hey, good luck, everybody.

00:09:32.180 Go get them.

00:09:33.640 They got permission.

00:09:34.720 They trained.

00:09:35.560 They organized them.

00:09:36.880 And they fought a defensive battle to protect the villages from slavers.

00:09:43.120 That's totally different.

00:09:45.340 That's lawful self-defense with a clear purpose.

00:09:48.940 That's the opposite of the Bubba effect.

00:09:52.800 Last one here.

00:09:53.860 Glenn, quit using Bubba in a negative way. 0.94

00:09:56.540 A contrail killer.

00:09:57.960 Okay, that's fair enough.

00:09:59.760 I understand.

00:10:01.000 It's not about the guy in the pickup. 0.95

00:10:03.500 Most Bubbas I know are the first ones that are at your door when you need help. 0.95

00:10:07.380 The name is shorthand for one thing.

00:10:09.320 It is an actual term.

00:10:13.220 What happens when good people get so angry, they stop asking what comes after the anger?

00:10:20.860 It's a term.

00:10:22.420 It's not a slight on anybody in America.

00:10:26.540 I thought about this a lot last night because I've never had pushback on this.

00:10:40.100 I've talked about this from 2004, and I think people are now getting so angry that you're starting to lose sight of what the warning actually is, and that's bothersome.

00:10:53.780 i found something i don't know how many people read charles dickens anymore but um if you want

00:11:03.040 to see it in the tale of two cities charles dickens wrote it and it was like 170 years ago

00:11:09.600 in the tale of two cities and um it's uh madame defarge she has a real grievance in the first

00:11:20.320 part of the book you're going to read and you're going to be like oh man she's great i love her 0.99

00:11:24.460 she's a hero okay when she was a girl a french rich guy took her sister and destroyed her her

00:11:33.280 brother tried to defend the family's honor and was run through with a sword so this this the

00:11:39.340 nobleman walks away i mean it's it's the story you know with swords it's the story you're living

00:11:44.580 today there's no trial there's no punishment there's nothing for the bad guys because they're

00:11:49.020 the elites and if anyone has a right to be angry it is her so she waits and while she waits she

00:11:55.560 knits and she sits in her wine shop in Paris and she's knitting and the needles are clacking away

00:12:02.680 day after day and what she's knitting the stitches are a code she is knitting the names of every

00:12:10.880 person she wants dead when the revolution comes so when the revolution comes the guilty are dragged

00:12:18.520 to the guillotine and that's not enough for her halfway through the book you're going to be like

00:12:23.700 oh boy she's not really a good person okay the man her who hurt her family he's already dead

00:12:31.040 but that's not good enough for her she wants satisfaction so she goes after his nephew

00:12:36.740 a man who renounced his title and walked away from all of it but that's not good enough either 0.72

00:12:43.340 So she goes after his wife, then his little daughter,

00:12:46.780 and a child who was not even born when the crime was committed.

00:12:53.240 This is where justice turns into an appetite.

00:12:56.260 This is why I said, tell me where reason kicks in, because it doesn't.

00:13:00.340 She's no longer asking who did it.

00:13:02.400 She's only asking who is next.

00:13:06.620 Now notice what's missing from her list.

00:13:10.800 There's no plan.

00:13:12.900 There's no vision of a better France.

00:13:16.500 Nothing about what gets built when the killing stops.

00:13:20.920 Do you notice that the founders, they weren't just mad?

00:13:24.540 They didn't just get mad and then like,

00:13:26.320 well, let's go throw some tea into the water.

00:13:29.140 They didn't do that.

00:13:30.500 They had spent decades talking about what they would build,

00:13:36.040 not what they're going to destroy, what they would build.

00:13:39.440 the killing becomes a plan in France now how does she die in the end I hate to

00:13:47.620 wreck this but you're not going to read it anyway

00:13:49.380 she goes to the house to hunt down that child and she finds an English nursemaid standing in

00:13:57.780 the doorway and they struggle and the pistol that Madame Defarge brought in to kill the innocent

00:14:03.200 goes off in her own hands. She's dead. She's destroyed by the weapon she carried in.

00:14:12.720 I would think that he was trying to make, Dickens was trying to make a point here.

00:14:17.560 Dickens was making the point that France learned the hard way. The revolution will eat its own.

00:14:24.700 The men who started the terror ended up under the same blade. And France didn't get liberty,

00:14:31.580 it got Napoleon, because people will always say anything to make the chaos stop.

00:14:39.860 Now, the reason why I brought up the Bubba effect yesterday was because this is starting in England. 0.90

00:14:45.540 And so I'm looking for signs of it happening in the West, because if we're not careful, it will come here.

00:14:54.180 Our founders had grievances. They wrote them all down, 27 of them.

00:14:59.440 You can read them in the Declaration of Independence, but they didn't stop at the list of wrongs.

00:15:05.800 In fact, the reason why our declaration is so important to the world is it started with what they were going to build, not what they were going to destroy.

00:15:15.260 They sat in a hot room in Philadelphia, argued all summer long about what should come next, and our declaration starts with that, that we owe it to you.

00:15:26.060 Before we break up, we owe it to you and the world to tell you we hold these truths to be self-evident.

00:15:34.400 They were writing a declaration and a constitution. 0.84

00:15:37.520 Madame Defarge was knitting a list of people she wanted to kill.

00:15:41.560 A grievance can tell you what to tear down, but it will never tell you what to build.

00:15:46.120 So before anybody picks up needles, ask the question that Madame Defarge never asked.

00:15:53.380 And then what?

00:15:56.060 And after this is accomplished, and then what?

00:16:02.140 And how do we know it's time to stop?

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00:17:41.280 I'm going to take you to the governor's race in Ohio.

00:17:48.240 Vivek Ramaswamy and Amy Acton.

00:17:55.980 There's an ad that came out yesterday.

00:17:59.440 And I want to play the ad.

00:18:01.920 And it's coming out from Vivek's campaign with Amy Acton's mom claiming that Amy is a habitual liar.

00:18:11.920 Here's the ad.

00:18:12.720 My name is Donna Arthur, and I'm Amy Acton's mother.

00:18:17.340 I worked at Children and Family Service Association,

00:18:21.000 building one of the first two sexual abuse programs in America.

00:18:26.460 I love my daughter, but when I saw her lying about her opponent,

00:18:31.000 and it's not easy for a mother to say this,

00:18:33.740 but Amy has a serious problem. 1.00

00:18:36.580 She is a liar. 1.00

00:18:38.560 She lies about her past. 1.00

00:18:40.320 She says she grew up living in a tent.

00:18:44.040 None of that is true.

00:18:46.040 She's lied her entire life.

00:18:48.620 My daughter needs help, and she can't help you if she needs help herself.

00:18:54.620 People can change, but first they have to tell the truth, and my daughter still isn't doing that.

00:19:01.000 Don't vote for people who lie.

00:19:03.500 Don't let her become your governor.

00:19:05.400 If you think she'll make your life better, you're fooling yourself.

00:19:10.320 It will only get worse.

00:19:13.040 All right, I got a lot to say about this.

00:19:15.060 First of all, finally a grandmother who looks like a grandmother.

00:19:19.840 I mean, have you ever noticed that grandmas now, you know, I'm 73 and you're like, you're what?

00:19:26.280 And maybe it's just I'm getting older.

00:19:28.060 But, you know, I remember my grandmother looked more like that.

00:19:32.100 Anyway, it seems damning.

00:19:36.860 It seems really damning.

00:19:38.580 the video quality is a little weak

00:19:42.260 and that's because the video was obtained

00:19:44.560 from a voter who captured it

00:19:46.460 during an online opinion poll

00:19:48.460 now

00:19:50.420 the vague says this video

00:19:52.460 this leak, this ad

00:19:54.340 was leaked

00:19:55.080 the quality backs this up

00:19:57.780 alright

00:19:58.860 now let me play the video

00:20:01.860 that Amy put together 0.93

00:20:04.360 in response

00:20:05.560 that if Amy's brother

00:20:08.060 They're claiming that Amy suffered abuse, you know, at the hands of their stepfather, and they both have been estranged from their mother ever since.

00:20:16.120 Here is the response.

00:20:18.260 Don't listen to mom. 1.00

00:20:19.400 I received a lot of abuse, but Amy always got the worst of it. 0.89

00:20:25.080 She continued to receive that abuse because she knew she had to protect me from that.

00:20:31.080 And that if she hadn't done that, who knows where I would have ended up.

00:20:35.760 and she's 11 and 12 years old.

00:20:38.640 And to think that that's somehow a talking point,

00:20:41.380 shame on Vivek.

00:20:42.380 It's the contempt he has for Amy.

00:20:44.060 It's the contempt he has for Ohio.

00:20:45.720 He's not fit to lead.

00:20:48.500 Okay.

00:20:50.400 God.

00:20:52.020 Oh, I hate politics. 0.66

00:20:54.000 I hate it so much.

00:20:58.720 Hey, let's everybody parachute 20 years, 30 years later

00:21:03.160 into a family

00:21:04.640 into all of their mess

00:21:06.460 and you and I try to figure out what happened

00:21:08.960 I know my family

00:21:11.220 I can parachute into my family

00:21:13.780 and we still don't know exactly

00:21:15.640 and we had abuse in our family

00:21:17.440 and we still

00:21:19.980 have a hard time

00:21:21.060 what's true, what's not

00:21:22.740 how did this happen, what should have been done

00:21:25.380 all of this

00:21:26.380 so I'm not going to parachute

00:21:31.320 into somebody else's family 0.89

00:21:32.580 her mother claims that she was part of building one of the two first sexual abuse programs in

00:21:48.640 America I haven't had time since the ad came out to verify that I don't know how to verify that

00:21:54.900 but we're gonna look but we also can't verify whether or not Amy was abused by her step

00:21:59.960 her stepfather we do know that he fled the state after being charged with rape of a 12 year old

00:22:06.160 girl amy and that doesn't look good so let me just try to make sense of this let's say amy's

00:22:16.820 telling the truth which i have no doubt no doubt in my i believe the 12 year old amy because

00:22:24.020 the charge was made she and her brother was taken away from the guy and then he fled the state

00:22:29.600 after being charged. So it sounds really bad. So I'm going to point for Amy. Now, mom said

00:22:39.240 that she was part of a women and children abuse center. So it sounds like mom may have been part

00:22:48.740 of this abuse, not as a receiving end, not as a giving end, a receiving end. How many times has

00:22:54.660 this happened how many times does this happen in families and she got out and then started 1.00

00:23:02.500 to work for children who are being abused so i got to give a point to amy's mom

00:23:11.320 i don't know what's true that's all i know so i can't verify any more than that

00:23:18.580 so what do I do? Point each. Good. That means dismiss it because this ad is not about the

00:23:26.360 abuse. It's not. And that's what Amy tried to make it as. You notice mom didn't say abuse in this

00:23:34.960 other than, hey, I have some credibility. I started these things. And so I've seen problems

00:23:41.820 and problems with children who were abused, et cetera, et cetera. And my daughter has a problem

00:23:46.800 with lying okay but she didn't say she was lying about the abuse so take it off the table and I

00:23:54.220 really wish moms were off limits in politics but they're not I mean I had a back when I was at Fox

00:24:01.780 I had somebody go and dig through my mother's death fly out to Tacoma Washington go get my

00:24:10.080 mother's death certificate and then start calling my sisters and my friends and how did Glenn's

00:24:16.040 mother die my mother died when I was 15 years old so I wish it was out but it's not it's not

00:24:26.520 and I don't like using family members to attack one another in election season or any season

00:24:32.200 we saw this tactic used against Trump we saw it used against RFK Jr. we saw work against

00:24:39.080 Herschel Walker all the time over and over and it's usually the left that does it and I don't

00:24:44.840 like it. And I don't know if it works with voters. I hope it doesn't work with voters.

00:24:51.080 But to me, I hate to see the family breakdown. But I'm not a politician, so it's not in my control.

00:24:58.980 And I remind you, Vivek says this was leaked. This was not his campaign ad. Now, without any of that,

00:25:07.400 can we make the case that Amy Acton is not an honest woman? Yes, because that's what the mother

00:25:15.880 is charging. Whether you want to believe her or not, she's saying she has a truth-telling problem,

00:25:21.880 and her record proves that over and over and over again. Let me give you an example.

00:25:29.080 In September, campaign ad from Amy said, while attending the Canton Field Fair, an armed

00:25:36.380 individual lunged at Dr. Atkin, injuring multiple people. Wow. Now, Amy doesn't allow any kind of

00:25:47.680 cameras around her ever. Any campaign event, no cameras. Okay. That's weird. While attending the 1.00

00:25:55.700 fair, an armed individual lunged at Dr. Atkin, injuring multiple people. Dr. Atkin and Eric

00:26:02.780 are grateful for the swift and decisive action of law enforcement

00:26:06.340 and are praying for the recovery of those injured.

00:26:10.320 This kind of violence has no place in Ohio.

00:26:12.640 Dr. Atkin always stands up to the chaos, hate, and vitriol

00:26:16.180 that pits us against one another.

00:26:18.340 Wow.

00:26:19.720 What happened?

00:26:21.940 What happened?

00:26:24.240 An armed individual lunged, injuring multiple people.

00:26:29.320 well obviously the police were very interested in following this

00:26:34.320 and amy's campaign was saying they want this prosecuted as a felony

00:26:39.420 and then a couple of days go by and they start ghosting the prosecutor so now the prosecutor is

00:26:46.900 calling amy amy and the campaign going okay can you tell us what happened and she was being ghosted

00:26:53.740 So here's what the prosecutor came out and said.

00:26:57.260 This is the Ohio prosecutor on Amy's, quote, attack at the fair.

00:27:02.320 Listen.

00:27:03.100 The information we've received is that the Acton camp requested individuals stop recording shortly before this incident occurred.

00:27:10.480 So at this point, the only video we have is the defendants.

00:27:14.480 And what's that showing certainly doesn't support filing felony charges.

00:27:19.060 What does that video show?

00:27:20.160 It shows him walking into the tent recording and moving forward, calling out her name and the state patrol, then her security, I shouldn't say the state patrol, somebody in her security comes forward and then his phone is either dropped or tousled.

00:27:36.380 And that's all we have. There's never any close contact with the governor, never gets near her or I'm sorry, candidate for governor.

00:27:45.560 Okay. So nobody gets near her and no one's injured. Now that's what she said. But let me show you the video of the event that actually later came out. All right. Here is the attack against Amy. And I'm going to describe this if you happen to be listening. But if you're not, if you're watching, take this full screen. I want you to see exactly what happened. Watch.

00:28:12.540 we got a lot there's amy under a tent

00:28:15.820 okay there's somebody now stop stop the camera the camera shows somebody standing next to amy

00:28:29.460 a black guy who lunges not towards amy towards somebody else that looks like he's making a move

00:28:35.420 but he immediately stops he like takes a step forward and then stops and steps back

00:28:39.820 The person who lunged at Amy was 15 feet away, okay?

00:28:48.640 He's immediately grabbed by people, and he's pushed out of the tent.

00:28:54.180 It shows no weapon.

00:28:57.080 It shows no one being hurt.

00:29:00.880 There's nothing happening here.

00:29:03.180 It certainly does not play it again as I'm reading what she said happened.

00:29:07.160 While attending the Canton Field Fair, an armed individual lunged at Dr. Atkin, injuring multiple people.

00:29:17.280 Show me where the multiple people are that were, they're grateful for the swift and decisive action of law enforcement.

00:29:25.040 Law enforcement is not in the tent, and they're praying for the recovery of those injured.

00:29:31.600 There's no one injured.

00:29:34.100 No one.

00:29:37.160 and she wanted this prosecuted as a felony. 0.98

00:29:44.520 So Ohio, does she have a problem with telling the truth?

00:29:50.300 Yeah, just based on this alone.

00:29:56.580 That's the point of the ad from Amy's mom.

00:29:59.220 Not about abuse, not about any of it.

00:30:01.140 and we don't need that ad to start questioning whether she's the right choice for ohio

00:30:08.300 right now the campaign is accusing vivek of of not being right for ohio because he stooped so

00:30:16.080 low to bring her mother into this which would be fine i just told you i don't like using moms i

00:30:22.180 don't like it but you can't say that if Amy if you were the one who smeared Vivek's mom back in

00:30:33.100 August don't believe me here's the press release billionaire scammer Ramaswamy used mother to

00:30:42.480 manipulate clinical trials in pump and dump scheme to make millions today new reporting details how

00:30:49.060 Billionaire Vivek Ramaswamy hired his own mother who lacked research experience to manipulate clinical trial data in alleged pump and dump pharmaceutical scheme.

00:31:00.300 Vivek will apparently do anything, including shamelessly profiting off of Alzheimer's patients and getting his own mother to manipulate clinical trial data just to make a buck.

00:31:12.660 Well, wait, that seems like smearing mom.

00:31:21.640 You have evidence of all of that?

00:31:26.360 Live by the sword, die by the sword.

00:31:28.640 It's a very dirty game.

00:31:34.020 This is going to be played out in Ohio expertly

00:31:39.100 because this is the way they always play it.

00:31:41.140 Here is Vivek's problem on this.

00:31:46.300 They're good at this.

00:31:49.000 They're very good at this.

00:31:50.960 And they've made this all about abuse. 0.99

00:31:54.000 And so every woman in Ohio now looks and says,

00:31:58.120 wait, are you saying that she wasn't abused?

00:32:00.320 No, that's not what Vivek is saying.

00:32:02.400 That's not what he's saying.

00:32:03.860 At least that's not what I'm hearing.

00:32:05.240 That's not what that video says.

00:32:08.060 That video has nothing to do with abuse.

00:32:11.400 She says the lie is she didn't grow up in a tent.

00:32:14.020 She didn't grow up poor.

00:32:15.460 She's lying about that. 1.00

00:32:16.700 And she has lie after lie after lie. 0.64

00:32:18.460 In Ohio, you better wake up. 1.00

00:32:19.920 She's a liar. 1.00

00:32:21.800 She didn't say that she was lying about her stepfather. 1.00

00:32:25.400 She didn't say that. 1.00

00:32:27.340 That's Amy's campaign injecting that. 0.99

00:32:30.620 That's Amy's campaign now lying about what the ad is about.

00:32:35.700 And because it's so visceral, people will buy it.

00:32:41.900 People will say, it's monstrous.

00:32:44.200 How dare he say it?

00:32:45.260 That's not what the ad says.

00:32:49.740 This is all a distraction, you know, from what matters in the election.

00:32:55.160 These elections are not about the candidate's mothers.

00:32:59.720 You know what this is about?

00:33:02.420 Your children.

00:33:05.700 It's about your state, Ohio.

00:33:09.080 It's about trust.

00:33:12.660 Do you have somebody who has a pattern of lying?

00:33:20.820 You got a problem.

00:33:23.940 The stuff about Amy that has come out from her own colleagues, from the people that she has worked around, from her own, I'm a doctor, I'm a doctor.

00:33:35.580 You've never had a patient, but you wear a white coat.

00:33:38.260 Is that an academic thing only?

00:33:41.520 What is that?

00:33:42.920 What is that?

00:33:44.640 More in just a minute.

00:33:50.260 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:34:05.580 okay if you're listening uh to us anywhere in texas you might have checked your mailbox and

00:34:16.180 seen that you have the texas trans and lgbtq student resource guide that came in if you have

00:34:21.900 kids in your house because it was all sent to the students of your family uh here in texas and we

00:34:28.180 found out earlier this has nothing to do with texas in fact the group that it is advertising

00:34:32.400 said we don't have anything to do we didn't send this out and it was a group uh out of uh

00:34:37.560 uh cheyenne is it wyoming or sheridan wyoming uh so we're going to be doing some investigation

00:34:44.920 who sent this out um but it's all about you know how you can have things altered you know a tailor

00:34:51.960 will come in and take that in a few inches um andy no is with us he is a journalist he's with

00:34:59.060 the post-millennial he's a senior editor there and he has been working on uh activist and radicals

00:35:06.820 forever i mean forever and ever and ever he's one of the braver guys uh in the media uh and he has

00:35:14.360 stumbled across the zizians which is a new book that has come out um z-i-z-i-a-n-s never heard

00:35:22.780 of them. It is a trans death cult. Andy, how did you get from Antifa to the Zizians? 1.00

00:35:32.480 Well, six years ago, when I was in Portland, Oregon, reporting on the BLM Antifa riots,

00:35:38.000 and in Portland, that's where the riots lasted the longest. I was gathering every day through

00:35:44.200 public records requests, the names of the dozens of people being arrested night after night. In

00:35:49.460 the end I had hundreds of individuals and I had the mug shots the booking photos and names I and

00:35:56.140 then I cross-referenced it with open resource information and one data point that I saw right

00:36:02.560 away was that disproportionately the individuals identify as trans. Now six years ago not very many

00:36:08.560 of us were talking about trans ideology or trans radicalism and I didn't know anything about it

00:36:13.880 so it wasn't something I focused on but it was something that was on the back of my mind.

00:36:17.940 I was very badly beaten by violent antifa extremists in 2019 and 2021 nearly killed it's

00:36:27.280 why I've been in exile outside of the United States I've been in England for many years now

00:36:31.880 and the individuals that I identified in my civil lawsuit as being part of those attacks

00:36:38.680 half of them ended up identifying as trans and so it literally hit me in the face and then

00:36:47.060 in the last number of years, we've seen year after year, sometimes month after month,

00:36:54.020 mass atrocities, killings committed by individuals who identify as trans. So all of us are wondering

00:37:01.660 what the hell is going on? Why is this happening? Why does there appear to be the surge? And then

00:37:06.560 a year and a half ago, when I learned that the killing of a border patrol agent were allegedly

00:37:12.080 committed by two individuals in vermont who are trans identifying i kept digging further and i

00:37:17.760 found out oh they're connected to this other person just arrested for murder in california

00:37:21.580 who is also identifying as all gender and this other person is also trans and this person too

00:37:27.860 and i realized more and more it's not just that all these people who are linked to one another

00:37:32.200 are trans identifying they are part of a trans cult

00:37:36.600 and it's an a legitimate cult i mean do they have meetings so they i mean

00:37:44.280 what what is not what's the structure so the zizians and they're called that because the

00:37:51.460 the leader of the group and that's uh his mugshot on the cover of my book jack lasota he adopted

00:37:58.120 the name ziz so his followers are called the zizians they make the jim jones call to charles

00:38:04.460 Banson and Cole look tame in comparison. So these are rationalists and effective altruists who moved

00:38:12.320 to the Bay Area a decade ago to come up with ways that in their mind would maximize good. But because

00:38:19.320 they are an atheistic movement divorced from, let's say, Christian values, they don't view the human

00:38:25.980 life as something that should be saved. And so, for example, in their mathematical calculations

00:38:33.340 and modelings because they're viewing that billions and billions of animals are being killed

00:38:39.140 every day for humans to eat or to consume and by animals they're referring to all the fish

00:38:46.060 and prawns and insects in the world every time you step on an ant you're committing a murder

00:38:50.760 and so at the forefront of the beliefs they were really militant radical vegans and because of

00:38:57.540 that they developed a misanthropic and anti-human worldview.

00:39:02.380 They were also AI doomers.

00:39:03.820 They believed that when AI becomes a super intelligence,

00:39:09.180 that they themselves could form the vanguard,

00:39:13.180 the trans vanguard whose consciousness,

00:39:16.380 through their own being so good,

00:39:19.420 that their consciousness could be uploaded

00:39:21.560 into the super AI and recreate a utopian simulation

00:39:27.540 and so their actions through the course of a decade they drew in from other belief systems

00:39:34.640 as well such as trans ideology so they believed for example that you they were born in the wrong

00:39:39.840 body and also that trans women in particular and trans women are males who identify as women

00:39:47.420 they believe that they were gifted with special cognitive abilities so the zizians were specifically

00:39:53.300 recruiting people who were vegan and trans and almost all of them had extremely impressive cvs

00:40:00.260 i mean math prodigies from when they were used they some of them had done research at nasa they

00:40:06.660 worked at google uh quantum trading on wall street so some of them were making a lot of

00:40:11.540 money and were bankrolling this group and as they became more and more extreme they lived on communes

00:40:18.500 i went to their hideouts in the bay area and then they moved east they became fugitives as they

00:40:25.460 entered um into legal uh criminal legal matters and um they viewed themselves increasingly as

00:40:34.660 victims of an ongoing trans genocide we hear this a lot from mainstream trans activists so they were

00:40:40.980 accusing everybody around them the courts the judges police sheriff's deputies of being trans

00:40:47.060 and they were drawing out their criminal cases which gave them time by the way to fake their

00:40:51.460 deaths do cover-ups and move to different jurisdictions and go into hiding by the end

00:40:56.660 of it all by the way when finally Jack Ziz Lasota was arrested in rural Maryland last year with two

00:41:04.020 other Zizian members there is a body count of at least known eight people who have died in very 0.84

00:41:11.060 violent ways they performed human experimentations because they had certain hypotheses about the brain

00:41:16.980 and how they how the brain would have different genders one side could be good

00:41:21.300 one side could be evil and they had experiments that they thought could

00:41:24.360 separate the two hemispheres of the brain and so like the the the brutality that

00:41:31.200 they are alleged to have enacted on their victims includes using samurai

00:41:36.000 swords in an attack hollow point round executions firings to the heads of

00:41:44.160 people and other very very violent killings that i can't get into detail for this broadcast but

00:41:50.200 it's in the book and so the book is true crime about the zizians and the zizians are a fringe

00:41:56.660 and extreme example just as the charles manson family is a fringe and extreme example however

00:42:01.360 what's different is that the zizians do fit into a larger pattern of growing trans violence where

00:42:07.900 individuals who have committed or are alleged to have committed atrocities mass killings and by 0.52

00:42:13.080 i'm referring to killing of women and children things that uh like a type of brutality that you

00:42:19.160 don't often see um where trans ideology and gender identity is really kind of at the forefront in the

00:42:26.760 manifestos that are left behind in their sense of persecution from the world and there are many many

00:42:32.760 trans activists since donald trump was re-elected into a second term who have been calling for one

00:42:40.040 another to stockpile firearms and i i coined a term for this phenomenon of the trans and the

00:42:45.720 antifa i call it tran-tifa we see it a lot in fact just a week and a half ago there were three

00:42:50.840 individuals in huntsville alabama who have been federally charged for allegedly being part of

00:42:57.320 a tran-tifa cell that was making 3d printed functional firearms at home and were stockpiling

00:43:04.040 weapons for anti-government violence so like week after week we're just hearing out examples of

00:43:10.040 trans violence and extremism i do believe it's part of a pattern the decisions fit into that

00:43:15.080 there are all these type of variables that are for example funding from big left-wing transhumanist

00:43:23.400 philanthropists who are funding the the trans industry medical institutions that are legitimizing

00:43:29.480 it with lies about how the science is is settled um the democrat party media the media is a big

00:43:37.560 part of this there's a huge conspiracy to distort and cover up whenever there are these violent

00:43:44.200 attacks committed by trans individuals if you read the reporting in mainstream legacy media

00:43:50.600 you come out with a perception that trans had absolutely nothing to do with it which is what

00:43:55.080 you'll see in the reporting um that's been in the new york times and seattle times and other places

00:44:01.800 about the zizians so like this book is really trying to um correct the record on not just the

00:44:09.160 zizians but also the the history that that we have of growing and surging trans violence

00:44:16.200 so the i mean this there's so much that is disturbing um here really truly disturbing 0.98

00:44:22.360 But I want to go back to these guys are not morons. 0.65

00:44:25.280 They have very high IQs, Silicon Valley, and you add to that effective altruism. 0.91

00:44:34.640 Can you explain why effective altruism is so dangerous?

00:44:40.300 So effective altruism is a modern contemporary philosophical movement.

00:44:47.280 On the surface, it sounds actually wonderful.

00:44:49.320 the philosophers who came up with it have affiliations with Oxford University so very

00:44:55.280 brilliant people came up with it they just argue that for example you can use rationality reason

00:45:00.640 and logic to maximize good but in certain communities in Silicon Valley like what

00:45:07.900 ultimately became the Zizians a lot of autistic people who were working in tech industry were

00:45:14.000 drawn into it they wanted to quote unquote maximize good but the movement in philosophy

00:45:20.120 itself is atheistic so there's no grounding for the value of the human life or any belief in a

00:45:28.320 human soul for example so a lot of the things that they would focus on in terms of improving

00:45:33.840 doing good was focusing like on the welfare of shrimps and prawns and insects and animals in

00:45:41.820 the wild because literally they are doing these math complicated mathematical algorithms of

00:45:47.520 essentially out the day how how do you balance it in this way where um like for example there

00:45:55.440 are more human there are more animals insects prawns shrimps dying than humans and humans are

00:46:00.360 causing that death therefore you should put the money into this side where you're supporting

00:46:04.740 the animals. One of the most well-known effective altruists was a huge scammer, fraudster,

00:46:13.200 convicted scammer, fraudster, Sam Bankman Freed with FTX. Billions of dollars were defrauded from

00:46:20.260 people. And in his worldview, he was donating millions and millions to Democrats. I mean,

00:46:26.000 just think of it, at the end of the day, if it's kind of like the ends justify the means,

00:46:30.360 And in his mind, he was doing good by donating to left-wing causes and charities.

00:46:36.160 Who cares if people are getting defrauded?

00:46:40.560 So you can really see that the worldview of some EA people, effective vouchers, is literally amoral.

00:46:48.300 So Andy, I've only got about a minute.

00:46:53.120 Is this group now that the leader is behind bars?

00:46:57.500 Is this group over?

00:46:58.480 Are there others that are spawning off of this?

00:47:01.740 What's the status of this today? 1.00

00:47:03.560 Why should we care about the Zizians?

00:47:05.880 Well, six of them are currently in custody in three different states 1.00

00:47:11.200 facing both state and federal charges.

00:47:14.320 However, what's really concerning is nobody's been convicted yet.

00:47:18.280 Just recently, the Maryland state felony case was suspended, 0.87

00:47:22.740 and therefore one of the Zizians has been let go completely. 0.75

00:47:25.280 One of the others is Zizian's resolved his felony case in California, and a judge allowed it to be pleaded down to misdemeanors, and he has no jail time despite being a fugitive for all these years after faking his death.

00:47:39.980 So there's really a grim potential outcome, just that as the case gets drawn out more,

00:47:47.860 one remaining witness in a murder, attempted murder trial is now in his 80s and has suffered

00:47:54.880 a number of strokes. One of the other key witnesses was assassinated and killed. And

00:48:00.460 the wider discussions about transviolence, you know, is just obfuscation and lies about it. I

00:48:06.440 I mean, I didn't even get into the role of mental health comorbidities and cross-sex

00:48:12.120 hormones, which I look at in this book, by the way, and I review the academic literature

00:48:16.540 because actually there is research on this, and you're probably not surprised to hear

00:48:21.300 that cross-sex hormone use does correlate with higher reported rates of aggression.

00:48:26.680 Andy, thank you for all of your work.

00:48:28.520 Please stay safe, and thank you for your book.

00:48:30.940 It's called The Zizians, Z-I-Z-I-A-N-S, The Zizians. 0.86

00:48:36.660 There is nobody that is doing this kind of stuff like Andy Ngo is.

00:48:40.520 You can pick it up wherever you can read your books.

00:48:44.440 The Zizians by Andy Ngo.

00:48:46.540 Andy, God bless.

00:48:47.580 Stay safe.

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