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On today's show, Glenn and Stu talk about the first Democratic primary debate, and why Joe Biden and Donald Trump did so much better than the other candidates. Plus, the latest on the massive fire that's destroying the New York City subway system.
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Oh, man, it's Friday and we have quite a show for you coming up tomorrow.
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If you've missed our conversations, you're going to get a great one tomorrow on the podcast.
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If you're already a Blaze subscriber, you get it.
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We talked to you and others that watched the debate.
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But we just weep over how good Savannah Guthrie was.
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And again, when you say debate, you mean between Savannah Guthrie and Donald Trump.
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Also, my Twitter storm that happened, you don't want to miss.
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I talk about the accomplishments of Donald Trump.
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And Stu talks about the accomplishments of the number of dead caused by Governor Cuomo.
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By the way, I think it's the last day you can take advantage of the code save our election to save 20 bucks off your Blaze TV subscription.
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I will say that we are at a time where we've seen unprecedented tech censorship.
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You know, without the subscriptions and your subscriptions, we are basically dependent on all of these big tech companies to exist.
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I want to talk to you a little bit about the debate.
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But why is it that it seems like the Democrats always get an easier path?
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And then when you listen to the news, it's like they weren't even watching it.
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It was only chaos because Savannah Guthrie kept interrupting the president.
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And if you watch Joe Biden, oh, well, it was a very different debate.
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It was Donald Trump's was hostile and Joe Biden's was not.
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Donald Trump was being corrected and attacked and cut off constantly.
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But there was no reason for Joe Biden to push back because he was being questioned by a friendly.
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Well, let me just give you let me just give you in social media.
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Now, remember, we trust the social media world to be able to to share stories.
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Well, we learned this week you can't share stories.
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The blaze the blaze was flagged for advertising a show about election fraud.
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We were throttled and flagged for an ad for a tweeting out a message that said you have to watch tonight's show.
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We were flagged because headlines can be misread headlines can be deceiving.
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Well, let's just go through some of the people that work at these places.
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Omid Kordestani, director and executive chairman.
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He matched five hundred and thirty thousand dollars with Jack Dorsey's donation to the ACLU.
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Then he donated thousands over the years to candidates and the DNC.
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He has a history of donating to Democratic candidates.
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Evan Williams, former Twitter CEO, current board member.
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He donated eight hundred thousand dollars in 2016, two hundred and twenty nine thousand in 2018, four hundred and sixty five in 2020.
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He's apologized for Twitter's role in electing Donald Trump.
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She's in charge of government election partnerships with leading global governments and political publishers,
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She interned and was press secretary for multiple Democratic politicians, plus worked on the Rachel Maddow show.
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Nicholas Basilo, senior communications manager and former communications manager for Kamala Harris.
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Carlos Mahoney, former director of public policy.
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He left to join Joe Biden's transition team, worked at the White House under the Obama administration, worked under Hillary Clinton.
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He donated thousands recently to Joe Biden, was the media spokesman for the decision to fact check Trump's tweets.
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Mark Zuckerberg donated some to Republicans, but mainly Democrats is currently donating all the voting boxes.
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So you can you can go to a Facebook box and just stuff your ballot in there.
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Sheryl Sandberg, the chief operating officer, donated prime primarily to Democrats, openly Democrat and endorsed Hillary Clinton.
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Andy Stone, the policy communications director at Facebook.
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He was the press secretary to Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee and the press secretary to Senator Barbara Boxer.
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She worked for Joe Biden, donated to Biden in 2020 and Clinton in 2016.
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Brian Rice, the director of public policy, was the legislative assistant for John Kerry for three years.
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Probeer Menta is the global public policy person.
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Trade Representative, executive office for the president for seven years when the president was Obama.
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You also have Jessica Hertz, former director and associate general counsel.
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She oversees the ethical issues and on transit transition team for Joe Biden.
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She worked on the on principal deputy counsel in that office under the vice president Biden from 2012 to 2014.
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What do you I mean, is there a have you noticed a trend with all of the people that are in senior positions?
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And I'm sure the press would look at it that way.
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This is something that this is a crazy concept.
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Well, they actually, I believe, think they are diverse because they might have, you know, some Hillary Clinton supporters in there.
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You know, so, you know, so you go from Antifa to Hillary Clinton.
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I was listening to somebody, some podcast, I think, and it was a liberal who was talking about this and kind of complaining about the woke culture in that sort of world.
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And explain it, I thought, in an interesting way where liberals and the people on the left inherently understand that if you don't have any black people or Hispanics or women at a workplace, there's a lack of diversity.
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You're not getting all those different viewpoints.
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And if you were to say, I'm just going to hire all white people, they would inherently say that's a terrible thing, right?
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However, when it comes to actual differences in thought, not skin color, which is, you know, it doesn't necessarily form your viewpoints, your actual differences in thought, they can't understand why you'd even include someone who's just moderately left, let alone a conservative.
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Everyone has to understand that sexual preference is now an insult.
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Like, all of these things have to, there's these hardcore rules.
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Anyone with any different opinion needs to be, you know, expunged, as Keith Olbermann would explain.
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But that is, I think that's the way that they think.
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And, you know, I think you'd think that these social media companies who, again, get half of their money from conservatives clicking on ads would understand this and want to please that audience.
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The only thing that is diverse is sexual, dare I say, preference.
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They don't think that a difference in opinion is important.
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A difference in opinion has to be stopped because they know the truth.
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And the truth is, all white people are racist, so I see people by race.
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Now, not the, you know, Klan sort of racist, I don't think.
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Although, when it comes to Jews, many on the left are the Nazi kind of racist.
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However, they are racist because that's the only filter they see.
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And what Martin Luther King said was, judge me by who I am, what I do, what my character is.
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Judge me by my skills and my talent and my character and what I can do.
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Just like they used to love sexual preference, and now they hate it.
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Look at the writings of Ibram Kendi, who outwardly explains this and says,
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you should be discriminating against white people.
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I think he basically describes it as the people who created the system.
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But he's, you know, implicit and explicit at times, saying that that's just white people, right?
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So, the only way to solve those problems that he sees from the past, real and imagined,
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And his book is on the shelves at every target in America right now.
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So, if you're going by, if you're walking through a target, you're going to see Anti-Racist Baby by Ibram X. Kendi.
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And these are the things he's advocating and targeting babies with.
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Yeah, because, you know, white babies, that's true.
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I guess people, babies of color do not need this information.
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White babies are racist from birth, so you have to start teaching them that.
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These are unhealthy practices, Glenn, for a society.
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It is everything, if you were looking to destroy a society, which they are, it's everything that you would say you wanted to do.
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I mean, I saw the Communist Party USA from the 1920s, their list of things they felt they had to do to destroy America.
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Because there were like 15 things on the list, and every one of them have been done.
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What are the odds that that just mysteriously happened that way?
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Nothing was done to stop the destruction of America by its foes internally, but all of the foes list, that was done?
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That's why we wanted to bring Mr. Pat Gray in from the Pat Gray Radio Roundup, along with his cowboy orchestra.
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Yeah, that's not the name of the show, nor do I have an orchestra.
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Well, I saw a big fat tuba sitting in there the other day.
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All right, so anyway, when you watch what happened, and then you listen to the report the next day, I swear to you they were watching something else.
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And isn't it interesting that they just replaced the Trump-Biden debate with Trump-Guthrie?
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And you notice that they asked Joe Biden all of these questions about Donald Trump.
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Not a single question about the news that broke this week on Hunter Biden.
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Not a single question about all the documents that have come out.
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All the documents that have come out in the last four weeks.
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I actually don't have a problem with Savannah Guthrie going after the president like that if Biden also gets that treatment.
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I don't necessarily mind tough questions and them going back and even correcting it in time.
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And then he turned to the other guy and you were like, I think he hates him too.
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And Trump handled her, I thought, very easily when she was coming after me.
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No, I listened to NPR and the New York Times today.
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No, she, according to CNN's Brian Stelter, it's the work of her career.
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There is this lack of effort at this point to even attempt for journalists to remain fair.
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And once they get him out of office, they can try to fake that they're journalists again.
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Even if somebody thought, I should be fair, I should ask him questions about Joe Biden's son.
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Even if they thought they should be fair, they never would because they know they'd return to the newsroom and they would be an outcast.
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And they look at themselves from 2016, and I've heard so many of them admit this on podcasts and articles and everything else.
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They think they spent too much time on Hillary Clinton's emails, and that's the reason why Hillary Clinton lost.
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And they've just given up on trying to show both sides.
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Like, I think in 2016, their mindset was, Hillary's going to win.
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So let's throw some articles out there about some, you know, little scandal, and we'll throw that out there so we can say we criticized both sides or we covered both sides.
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And now they're like, well, last time we did that, it didn't work.
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Like, we cannot even, we can't even ask a question about Hunter Biden.
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It's not, what's so scary is it's not just the press who feels that way.
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We know Google, Facebook, Twitter, they all felt the same way.
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So everyone is pulling out every stop, and they don't care because they think Donald Trump is so bad that the ends justify the means.
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And again, for the millionth time, Savannah Guthrie acting as if the president has never denounced white supremacy.
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And again, for the millionth time, we just played a thing this week, and maybe you guys did too, the 17 times it's been documented where he's denounced.
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I mean, over and over and over and over he's denounced white supremacy, the KKK, David Duke.
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I mean, he literally got out of a party in the year 2000 because David Duke got into it and took it over.
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And so, again, last night, he clearly and definitively denounced it all.
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And she acted like, why have you waited so long?
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He did it in the interview that they said he never, he said just good people on both sides.
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And I'm not talking about the white supremacists.
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I'm not talking about white supremacists and Nazis and people like that.
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There were good people on both sides that were there.
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How is that different than Antifa when they're saying, no, there were good people there.
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I'm not talking about the rioters and those throwing Molotov cocktails and crying for the shooting of cops.
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I'm talking about the good people that were there to march for black lives.
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And we keep forgetting that even during the debate, the first thing he said when the question was asked about whether or not he denounces white supremacy was, sure.
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And again, you know, we're rehashing, I guess, this stuff again.
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But it's like the wording used in the question during the debate was, will you ask them to stand down?
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And he said, stand back and stand by, which seems like he basically butchered.
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No, no, Donald Trump ever butchers things like that.
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When he crafts his words, he thinks, he pauses.
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Yesterday they asked him, they're like, you know, they asked him a health care question.
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And he said, the problem with Obamacare is that it's very bad.
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And the problem with Obamacare, in the same answer about 30 seconds later, and the problem with Obamacare is it's not good.
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Well, those are, I agree with both of those things.
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It's not quite that detailed, but again, this is who, you know, we all understand that about Donald Trump.
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And I think the press tries to use that against him.
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The fact that he doesn't word things in precise ways, like stand back and stand by makes no sense to turn it into some sort of called arms.
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They just use the language that was used in the question.
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And he and beyond this, he's done it, as we just talked about, a hundred times already.
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Like if he didn't want to denounce white supremacy, he wouldn't do it over and over and over again.
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And if he secretly did like white supremacy, he wouldn't just admit it during the debate for the first time.
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I have to tell you, too, I don't know why nobody asked Joe Biden to denounce Antifa, which is currently burning cities down and making threats online that they are going to be even worse after the election.
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And so when he's asked about it, will you condemn them?
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I know they're against pedophilia and pedophiles.
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And he actually made this point to Savannah Guthrie, which was, you know, just because you say it doesn't mean it's fact.
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When he was talking, I think it was about QAnon when he was saying it.
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And it's like, well, if I just accept your analysis of this group, I don't know anything about.
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Then I am denouncing a group and I might find out later that you're lying to me about it.
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There were plenty of black leaders of the KKK, Glenn.
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Those were the ones, well, they had a stake in it.
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Again, do I think he knows a little bit more about Q?
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He knows it's built out of his supporters and he doesn't want to come out and bash them.
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But again, like no one knows or cares about this topic.
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There was some poll I saw today that it's something like 25% of Americans have ever even heard of it.
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I mean, if anything, you're just drawing people to go look at what the hell this is.
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And some percentage of them are going to find it and think it's true and get involved in it.
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It's like they're everywhere if you're to listen to the mainstream media and I never see them.
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He's saying that there's good people on both sides with torches.
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I mean, you haven't recognized the racism that is in you.
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So you're, I don't know, who's a white supremacist?
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And meanwhile, over on ABC, George Stephanopoulos.
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Now, now think, do you think Bill O'Reilly would ever be allowed to host a debate?
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But when he was on Fox, Bill O'Reilly used to piss me off.
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I mean, he would say things and he would support things and he was so up with, you know, with Barack Obama there during the Obama administration, not seeing any of these connections.
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He's a guy who actually, I think, has given people a fair shake when they're on.
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They would never let him hold a debate or host a debate.
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George Stephanopoulos, the guy who was the spin master in the Hillary Clinton campaign and has been their spin master forever.
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I mean, he brought up Russell, who was also a Democrat.
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And, you know, maybe you could make that transition.
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I mean, the last guy they were going to have, you know, do a debate.
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He got suspended because he was lying about being hacked on Twitter while he was trying to communicate with Scaramucci.
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And he's trying to get dirt on Donald Trump so he can add that dirt from Scaramucci.
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Someone stole my, and the FBI is on it, and they're hoping to find out who hacked into my computer.
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So yesterday, he had to admit that he lied about his computer.
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He still should go to jail for lying to the FBI.
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He was supposed to moderate a presidential debate last night.
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This man has now been suspended because he was lying and trying to get dirt on the president.
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Watch those two debates, two town halls last night.
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Donald Trump was constantly being attacked by Savannah Guthrie and interrupted.
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But I am opposed to it when the opposite on the other channel, Joe Biden is basically being hugged.
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No one called out anything that he said as wrong.
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Nobody came out with tough questions about the main news stories that were out there, critical of the campaign.
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They actually came out this morning and said what Joe Biden is saying about the Supreme Court.
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He said he'll have to wait and see what happens.
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What he's saying is the system is so broken that if he's going to fix it, yes, he may pack the court, but he'll take the hits for it and he'll be a four-year president.
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And everybody can hate him, but that's what you have to do to fix America.
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That was their analysis on the New York Times Daily today.
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John Jackson, he is the owner of the Heroes American Cafe.
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This is in Portland, Oregon, and he has this cafe that supports heroes.
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And he supports the police and any of the first responders, et cetera, et cetera.
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So Antifa last week began compiling a list of all of the, let me see, non-friendly businesses in Portland, a.k.a.
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any company, I'm quoting them, any company that's hanging Blue Lives garbage in their store or anything else that's anti the BLM movement.
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Well, somebody said Heroes American Cafe on South Park blocks gives profits to their heroes, cops.
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Well, somebody called him and then violence began and we talked to him now.
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So tell me, the phone call came in a few days before you were shot at.
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Yeah, we got a phone call and we kind of just thought it was kind of a random kind of crank call.
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We really didn't think, we gave it no validity whatsoever until after the event.
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Then we kind of looked back and said, wow, maybe we should have thought about it a little more.
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I think the police are understaffed, overwhelmed and somewhat misguided on their focus.
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So they're following around Antifa and the rioters and not answering 911 calls.
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We watched them drive around the block just following the protesters.
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And eventually we flagged a supervisor down and he jumped out very friendly cop, three other officers with him.
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And we showed him and he was concerned and he called it in and still no response.
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I think the tolerance for violence is is at an all time high.
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You know, I've told a lot of people that they would have threw a rock through my window or, you know, threw a chair through it.
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But to see bullet holes in your in your storefront, that takes you back, you know, about 50 years in this country.
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So tell me, you were sitting right where one of the bullets went through just before the shooting happened.
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We I worked that day with my son, my 11 year old son.
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And we were right where the book where one of the window panes, the bullet, penetrated a couple hours earlier.
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And this happened on the indigenous people's day of rage.
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Yeah, that takes that's a whole nother story, I guess.
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So are you tell me about yourself, if you don't mind, are you a conservative in Portland?
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You know, when it comes to politics, I'm really more of an independent thinker.
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Um, I've, I've, uh, voted and this would be my 10th presidential election and I'm probably
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right down the middle, um, on one side or the other.
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Um, this time, uh, last time, you know, cause you're going to ask me, so I'll just get right
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Last time, um, I really voted against Hillary more than I voted for Trump.
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Oh, this, this actually, I was, I was leaning toward Trump, uh, just looking at the record
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of, uh, Joe Biden, you know, 47 years, um, in politics and, you know, just couldn't see
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any landmark, um, uh, things that, that he accomplished over those years.
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And, um, and, you know, I think about Trump and the things that president Trump has done,
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I mean, I wouldn't want to be, to be quite honest.
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And, you know, he's, he's not perfect, just like I'm not perfect and you're not perfect,
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So why do you, I mean, have you been for this movement or just tolerated it, or you kind
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I mean, I really, and I think most Americans don't understand where the people of Portland
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are who don't believe in, you know, burning the city down to the ground.
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Well, I, I could tell you, um, this, this particular experience has shown me, um, because I, I didn't
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know the answer to that question until just three, three or four days ago.
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The people of Portland are the same as they've always been.
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And the people of Oregon are good, solid people.
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These are agitators, instigators, and, uh, factions that are, that are focused on Portland.
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The people of Portland have, uh, they risen to the occasion with heroes.
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To, to be honest, I haven't got one, one hate email from anyone in Portland.
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So it really has, uh, shown me that the people of Portland are against violence.
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So you have, I mean, we've, at least in the other parts of the country, think you have a really bad mayor.
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But you are, I mean, the woman that is now running, uh, for mayor is even worse.
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I mean, she's full-fledged Antifa, uh, full-fledged Marxist.
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Um, you know, that's, that's, uh, jumping out of the pot into the fire.
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Um, he needs to really, really, um, lead better and, and be more deliberate in what he does
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But I've heard exactly what you just referred to, that she's full-fledged.
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Is there something, there's there a line that, that, uh, will be crossed or could be crossed
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I would say that line doesn't exist because we're, we're not made that way.
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We're not going to be victimized and terrorized to, to leave.
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It won't be because of, um, the, the things that are going on now.
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As far as the city goes, I think that, uh, the people of Portland, um, they will put a
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referendum up or they're going to do something.
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And, uh, we need to turn this back into the beautiful city it once was.
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And once we vote, let's stand behind whoever wins.
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Let's, let's stop this divisiveness and get some stuff done.