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00:00:00.000 Coming up on the podcast today, a chilling warning from the past as we hear from someone

00:00:05.380 who had a really good idea as to what the plan is when it comes to changing the United States

00:00:11.120 of America. We get into that. Pat Gray joins us as well to talk about that. Should we take down

00:00:17.060 Ulysses S. Grant statues? That's an interesting conversation you never thought you'd have to

00:00:22.120 have. We talked to a woman who is the stepmother of the police officer who was fired in Atlanta,

00:00:26.660 and she is not happy because she got fired as well. No one seems to know what the reason is

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00:01:26.660 I want to tell you about a guy who everybody thought was Tomas David Schumann, but he really

00:01:43.600 wasn't. His name was Alexandrovich Besmernov. I'm so good with names. I practically speak every

00:01:55.140 language. Um, he's a guy that was a Soviet journalist for RIA, but was also an informant

00:02:09.140 with the PGU and also KGB. He defected in the eighties to Canada. He was assigned to a station

00:02:18.000 in India, and he actually grew to love the people of India and the free market. And then he began to

00:02:25.340 resent the KGB stationed repression of intellectuals who dissented from the Moscow policies. And so he

00:02:33.020 decided to defect. What he, what he meant by that was he went in, um, under direction of the central

00:02:40.300 committee, the communist central committee in Moscow. And what he had to do was convince people

00:02:48.300 to start writing things from the Soviet perspective. Then he and his team members would also go in and

00:02:57.200 look for those people, uh, in the government that would be sympathizers and anyone who they couldn't

00:03:05.100 turn, they would use their power in the media in India to be able to smear them and destroy them.

00:03:12.820 Does any of this sound familiar? They would spread disinformation and they would make it so you

00:03:20.700 would, you wouldn't be able to know. Let me give you his exact quote. Exposure to true information

00:03:28.000 wouldn't matter anymore. A person who is demoralized, which I'll explain in a minute,

00:03:33.060 is unable to assess true information. The facts tell him nothing. Even if I shower him with

00:03:39.360 information, with authentic proof, with documents and pictures, he will still refuse to believe it.

00:03:45.820 That's the tragedy of the situation of demoralization. So when he defected, he,

00:03:53.460 he came out and he did an interview and he did an interview to try to tell the West,

00:04:02.120 you need to wake up. You have no idea. The interview was done up in Canada with G Edward Griffin and in

00:04:13.180 it, he explained the methods that are used by the KGB and it is for a gradual subversion of the

00:04:22.580 political system of the United States. Now we couldn't see this in the 1980s. We thought this was

00:04:28.540 nonsense in the 1980s, but I asked you to look at this 20 year plan and realize we're 19 years away

00:04:36.700 from September 11th. And you tell me this plan hasn't happened and is happening right now. I want

00:04:44.100 you to listen to pieces of this interview. It's in three parts and I want you to listen to what he

00:04:49.920 is, uh, what he is saying, what the KGB and what Marxists do to destroy a country. Listen.

00:05:00.980 Well, you spoke several times before about ideological subversion. That is a phrase that,

00:05:06.220 uh, I'm afraid some Americans don't fully understand. When, uh, the Soviets use the phrase

00:05:12.360 ideological subversion. What do they mean? Ideological subversion is a slow process, active measures,

00:05:19.460 активные мероприятия, in the language of the KGB, or psychological warfare. What it basically means

00:05:25.720 is to change the perception of reality of every American to such an extent that despite of the

00:05:34.040 abundance of information, no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interests of

00:05:41.100 defending themselves, their families, their community, and their country. It's a great brainwashing

00:05:48.180 process, which goes very slow and it's divided in four basic stages. Okay, stop. The first one being

00:05:56.640 demoralized. Stop. Uh, let me just pick this. Let me just make sure you understand what he's talking

00:06:02.860 about is ideological demoralization to get you to a point to where you can't defend your country,

00:06:11.580 your position, your family. Remember on black lives matters website, they talk about one of their goals

00:06:21.180 is the destruction of the nuclear family. I'm sorry. I will never stand with black lives matter. I

00:06:28.380 will never say that black lives matter. I will never say, well, they're good people in black lives

00:06:34.540 matter. If you have read the website, you know that that is for the destruction of the family of our

00:06:42.240 nation of the, the constitution of, of the free market system. It's evil. It is evil.

00:06:51.180 And I swore off the word evil, you know, in the, what, in the last 10 years, I've tried not to use

00:07:00.340 the word evil to describe things, but this movement, this Marxist movement is evil. Now, how many of us

00:07:10.060 have tried to sit down with our family members or our children or our older children, and we've tried to

00:07:16.080 talk about the things that are going on and we find it hard to defend anything because their answers are so

00:07:25.840 circular and you have a hard time explaining and a hard time, uh, uh, uh, defending because they've taken all of

00:07:40.700 those things away. They've taken, you can't point to a good example anymore because everything has been

00:07:48.420 destroyed. So everything you're demoralized. Are you not? Okay. He says there's four steps. Here's step

00:07:56.960 one.

00:07:57.960 It takes from 15 to 20 years to demoralize a nation. Why that many years? Because this is the minimum

00:08:05.080 number of years, which requires to educate one generation of students in the country of your enemy

00:08:13.140 exposed to the ideology of the enemy. In other words, Marxism-Leninism ideology is being pumped into

00:08:20.760 the soft heads of, of, of at least three generations of American students without being challenged or

00:08:26.140 counterbalanced by the basic values of Americanism, American patriotism. The result, the result you can

00:08:33.200 see. Most of the people who graduated in the 60s, dropouts or half-baked intellectuals are now occupying the

00:08:40.760 positions of power in the government, civil service, business, mass media, educational system. You are stuck

00:08:47.060 with them. You cannot get rid of them. They are contaminated. They are programmed to think and react to

00:08:53.020 certain stimuli in a certain pattern. You cannot change their mind. Even if you, if you expose them to

00:08:59.240 authentic information, even if you prove that white is white and black is black, you still cannot change the

00:09:05.880 basic perception and the logic of behavior. In other words, the process of demoralization is complete and

00:09:12.800 irreversible. To get rid of society of these people, you have, you need another 20 or, or, or, or 15 years

00:09:19.720 to educate a new generation of patriotically minded and, and, and, uh, common, common sense people

00:09:27.560 who would be acting in favor and in the interests of, of the, uh, of the United States society.

00:09:35.260 Stop for a second. So it takes 15 to 20 years to be able to do this. The more time that goes by the

00:09:44.800 better because the more generations you have now, he said, there's going to be people who disagree and

00:09:51.680 he'll talk about their liquidation in a minute, but there will be people that won't go along with it.

00:09:57.560 You need at least 15 years to reeducate the next generation. That's where I want to focus because

00:10:06.140 he said, here's the only thing you can do is reeducate the younger generation. You're going to be left

00:10:15.080 with the generations that you guys have missed and that's what they're counting on. But

00:10:22.000 everything that I felt in the last, everything I felt, and I warned you about in the, in,

00:10:31.940 in 2008 to 2012, it's all here. It's all here. The players that we pointed out the way it was going

00:10:42.040 to happen, the chalkboard on the riots of the, the left and the, uh, Marxist and the Islamists,

00:10:50.580 Islamists and the, um, the anarchists all coordinating, working together with the democratic party.

00:10:58.540 They're all working together and I will prove it to you on Wednesday night. Um, so keep this in

00:11:08.500 mind. The one thing that we have to do is we have to have 15 years. Well, many of us really started to

00:11:15.620 teach our children the right things, uh, during the tea party, but I don't know if that's enough.

00:11:24.080 We need to really focus on our families. All right, pick it up. The psychological shock when,

00:11:33.100 when they will see in future what the beautiful society of equality and social justice means in

00:11:38.840 practice, obviously they will revolt. They, they, they will, uh, they will be very unhappy, frustrated

00:11:45.220 people. And the Marxist-Leninist regime does not tolerate these people. Uh, they, obviously they will

00:11:52.600 join the links of dissenters, dissidents. Unlike in present United States, there will be no place for

00:11:59.520 dissent in, in future Marxist-Leninist America. You can get popular for being dissident, for criticizing your

00:12:06.680 Pentagon. In future, these people will be simply squashed like cockroaches. Nobody is going to pay

00:12:13.220 them nothing for their beautiful, noble ideas of equality. This they don't understand and it will

00:12:19.480 be the greatest shock for them, of course. The demoralization process in the United States

00:12:25.920 is basically completed already. Most of it is done by Americans to Americans, thanks to lack of moral

00:12:32.940 standards. As I mentioned before, uh, exposure to true information does not matter anymore. A person who

00:12:41.400 was demoralized is unable to assess true information. The facts tell nothing to him. Uh, even if I shower him

00:12:50.680 with information, with, with authentic proof, with documents, with pictures, even if I take him by force to the

00:12:57.780 Soviet Union and show him concentration camp, he will refuse to believe it until he, he is going to

00:13:04.320 receive a kick in the, in his fat bottom. Then he will understand, but not before that. That's the tragic of

00:13:11.040 the situation of demoralization. So basically America is stuck with, with demoralization. And unless, even if,

00:13:18.420 if you start right now, here, this minute, you start educating new generation of Americans, it will still take you

00:13:24.000 15 to 15 to 20 years to turn the tide of, uh, of ideological perception of reality, uh, back to

00:13:31.920 normal, normalcy and, and, uh, patriotism.

00:13:40.560 So that we've already done, but there are more steps left. Have we done those? We continue in just a minute.

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00:14:57.700 This is the Glenn Beck program. Uh, all right. Step one, demoralization to destroy our history,

00:15:19.580 to, to, to get you to a place to where you can't even defend it, to make sure that our kids are

00:15:28.060 educated in Marxist philosophy. And then what's the next step? Here's part two.

00:15:37.260 The next stage is destabilization. This time subverter does not care about your ideas and the

00:15:44.260 patterns of your consumption. And it takes only from two to five years to destabilize a nation.

00:15:49.440 This time what matters is essentials, economy, foreign relations, defense systems. Uh, and you can

00:15:56.780 see it quite clearly that in some areas, defense and economy, uh, the, uh, influence of Marxist-Leninist

00:16:04.880 ideas in the United States is absolutely fantastic. I could never believe it 14 years ago when I landed,

00:16:10.940 uh, in this part of the world that the process will go that fast. Uh, the next stage of course is

00:16:17.980 crisis. It, it, it may take only up to six weeks to, to bring a country to the verge of crisis.

00:16:24.180 Six weeks.

00:16:24.960 And after crisis with a violent change of, of power, structure, and economy, you have so-called the

00:16:31.300 period of normalization. It may last indefinitely. Normalization is a cynical expression borrowed from

00:16:37.940 Soviet propaganda. When the Soviet tanks moved into Czechoslovakia in 68, comrade Brezhnev said,

00:16:43.920 now the situation in brotherly Czechoslovakia is normalized. This is what will happen in United

00:16:50.060 States if you allow all these schmucks to bring the country to crisis, to promise people all kind of

00:16:56.660 goodies and the paradise on earth, uh, to, to destabilize your, uh, economy, to eliminate the

00:17:03.620 principle of free market competition and to put a big brother government in Washington, D.C.

00:17:10.220 who will promise lots of things, never mind whether the promises are fulfillable or not, create

00:17:16.220 false illusions that the, uh, situation is under control. Situation is not under control. Situation

00:17:23.140 is disgustingly out of control. Most of the American politicians, media, and educational system

00:17:29.940 trains another generation of people who think they are living at a peacetime. False. The United States

00:17:38.740 is in the state of war, undeclared total war against the basic principles and the foundations of this

00:17:47.140 system. Uh, if, if you are not scared by now, nothing can scare you.

00:17:52.420 So what did he, what did he just say? The first thing you have to do is take the underpinnings

00:18:02.420 so people can't defend things right now. Are you having a hard time defending things? Are you having

00:18:10.760 a hard time defending, uh, the fact that America is not a racist place? Are you getting into discussions

00:18:20.960 with people you thought were normal and the same boat with you? And when they start to say, yeah, but

00:18:29.760 I'm with black lives matter because, uh, you know, we really are a racist country. Wait, wait, what,

00:18:37.920 what, what, and what does that mean? And how do you define that? And have we gotten better? What is the

00:18:46.480 problem right now? And there are so many people that are, are dipping their toe into this? Do you realize

00:18:56.400 that black lives matter? This is a Marxist revolutionary group, a Marxist revolutionary group.

00:19:04.640 It now surpasses the approval rating of the president of the Democratic Party, the Republican Party,

00:19:14.080 uh, Congress, any administration, the press. It is only less popular than the military. It has a 68%

00:19:26.480 approval rating. It is a Marxist organization. And this is going to be mocked and ridiculed.

00:19:37.040 It doesn't matter. The truth has to be spoken. Now he gets to his last place. So far,

00:19:45.840 everything is happening that he said would come. It's here. What's next?

00:19:57.920 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:20:03.200 We've been playing, uh, some audio. If you just joined us from a, a former Soviet KGB officer that

00:20:11.040 defected, uh, defected, uh, from the USSR to Canada. And in the eighties, he talked about how

00:20:19.600 Russia and the Marxist Leninist, uh, revolution was going to happen in America.

00:20:26.480 We've put it together in three parts. Uh, and it's pretty stunning. The first, the first thing is,

00:20:34.160 uh, demoralization, which happens in our schools and you've got to get our schools and the media

00:20:40.640 to demoralize people and to tear apart and teach incorrect history. So it would fall in favor of

00:20:48.640 the Marxist Leninist, uh, kind of, uh, propaganda and feelings. And he says, you know, we've been doing

00:20:55.600 that for decades here now, and it takes 20, 20 years to get a country to confuse it so much that it can

00:21:05.680 no longer defend itself. It doesn't, none of the answers work anymore because they don't know what

00:21:12.800 truth is. And he said, there comes a time when they're even truth, even documented proof doesn't

00:21:21.360 matter anymore. Pat's joining us. Pat, I think we're done with the step one. Oh, for sure.

00:21:28.560 Absolutely. Yeah. I mean, even documented proof. And he said, you got to have the media involved in it.

00:21:35.840 Then, uh, he said, the next step is to create chaos. And there's two steps. One is destabilization,

00:21:44.640 destabilization of the economy of all foreign relations. Well, that's, that's happened. We're

00:21:51.120 done with that one. A destabilize our economy. Uh, yeah. Coronavirus. And then he said, then you

00:21:59.200 create chaos. And he said, it only takes about six weeks to really put a country in chaos. If it's

00:22:05.760 well coordinated. Well, I think we're pretty, pretty much there, but they're waiting. In my opinion,

00:22:11.900 they're waiting until the election. And that's when real chaos is going to happen. Uh, John Kerry came

00:22:18.660 out today and said, if Trump wins, there'll be a civil war. That's remarkable. And in seeing that

00:22:25.820 he is saying that those who don't want Trump would be the ones causing the civil war, because that's

00:22:33.040 what he was railing about with the tea party, that we wanted civil war. None of us wanted civil war

00:22:39.040 under Barack Obama. None of us. We wanted people to be held responsible for their actions. The same

00:22:46.000 things people say they're protesting for today. I want accountability. You do something wrong.

00:22:54.160 You're held accountable for it. So, uh, now we are in a period where they are looking to cause chaos

00:23:03.760 and to further destroy our history, our history. I'm going to get into it next hour. Our history

00:23:10.120 is gone. Mount Vernon came out, uh, this weekend and said, if we destroy the statues of George

00:23:17.760 Washington, if we destroy his image, there is no such thing as American history anymore. You lose

00:23:25.760 George Washington, you lose the country. And that's what they're after. And by the way, military vets,

00:23:33.880 I want to talk to you after the top of the hour. So now he says, uh, after all those things, he says,

00:23:40.720 here's step three. Here's the third part. Listen.

00:23:46.800 What, what actually happens now that unlike myself, you have literally several years to live on unless

00:23:56.080 the United States wake up, the time bomb is ticking with every second, the disaster is coming closer and

00:24:03.260 closer. This is it. This is the last country of freedom and possibility. Okay. So what do we do?

00:24:10.140 What is your recommendation to the American people? Well, the immediate thing that comes to my mind is,

00:24:16.040 of course, there must be a very strong national effort to educate people in the spirit of real

00:24:23.140 patriotism. Number one. Number two, to explain them the real danger of socialist, communist, whatever,

00:24:29.420 welfare state, big brother government. If people will fail to grasp the impending danger of that

00:24:36.980 development, nothing ever can help United States. You may kiss goodbye to your freedom. All this freedom

00:24:42.860 will vanish, evaporate in five seconds, including your precious lives. At least part of United States

00:24:49.100 population is convinced that the danger is real. They have to force their government. And I'm not

00:24:55.380 talking about sending letters, signing petitions and all this beautiful noble activity. I'm talking about

00:25:01.520 forcing United States government to stop aiding communism from destroying what is, whatever is left of the free

00:25:08.780 world. Two, two very simplistic answers for solutions, but nevertheless, they are the only solutions.

00:25:15.840 Educate yourself, understand what's going on around you. You are not living at the time of peace.

00:25:21.540 You are in a state of war. I know it sounds unpleasant. I know Americans don't like to listen to things

00:25:27.600 which are unpleasant. It's a question of survival of this system. And you have precious little time to say this.

00:25:34.920 Oh, we don't like to listen to things that are unpleasant. That's is that true or what's true, man? That's true.

00:25:47.860 That's true. But if we don't listen to these warnings and act right now, remember, this is 1983 when he's saying you can you have you have literally several years that you can live like this.

00:26:04.100 But once it happens, it's going to happen quickly and it's happening. It's happening and it's happening quickly. So what do we do? Well, we've we've got to pay attention. And first, forget about the outside world.

00:26:22.700 Your own children need to understand what is happening. Your own children need to get into the boat and make sure that they are not in any of these Marxist boats.

00:26:35.320 And it's going to be extraordinarily difficult, extraordinarily difficult because they want they're going to want to argue the truth that don't you want everybody to be fair?

00:26:48.000 Don't you want to be? Yes, I do. But just like I said, the the homosexual movement was not about gay marriage.

00:27:00.020 I have no problem. I'm a libertarian. You want to get married? Great. Get married. Don't force my church to marry you.

00:27:09.200 And I won't force you to get married or not get married. Just whatever. You want to get married by a tree? Get married by a tree. It's wonderful.

00:27:18.960 But I don't have to marry you. My church doesn't have to marry you. Well, that's not what it was about.

00:27:24.940 And we had this conversation. Love always wins. Yes, it does.

00:27:29.200 But sometimes reason is needed as well. And reason would say, look into the groups and what they're actually pushing.

00:27:40.080 All of this stuff that has been going on with this radical sexualization of our of our children comes from the same group that said love always wins.

00:27:51.300 Well, those are two separate topics. And just like I said, that's not their intent. That might be your intent, but that's not their intent.

00:28:02.020 Their intent is to use that because they know they get you.

00:28:07.140 What you need to do is make sure that you look into what they are actually saying.

00:28:14.500 And I'm sorry, you don't ever stand with a Marxist communist.

00:28:19.120 You don't. You don't further their cause with them.

00:28:24.140 You can further your cause, but not their cause.

00:28:28.500 If we don't start having these conversations and we don't start really understanding what is happening to our country right now, we are going to lose it.

00:28:40.340 But I have had great, great trust in this audience that this audience will save the republic and it may only save it in a remnant, but it will save the republic.

00:28:52.920 And it's on your shoulders and voices like mine, like Stu, like Pat, all of these voices, they are going to go away.

00:29:02.040 They are going to go away.

00:29:06.520 You are going to have to be the leader in your community at some point.

00:29:11.960 Look what they are doing to our country.

00:29:15.200 Look at what they have done to our country in the last six months.

00:29:20.400 We have put so many people into bankruptcy.

00:29:23.760 We have closed the nation.

00:29:26.220 They have they have taught us to be sheep.

00:29:29.600 They yell at us when we want our freedoms and they accuse us of being revolutionaries.

00:29:34.820 And when actual revolutionaries show up, they don't do anything about it.

00:29:39.300 And now all the corporations are taking our history away.

00:29:43.400 Did you hear Aunt Jemima's what great grandson is really pissed?

00:29:48.460 You took my family's history.

00:29:51.200 That was my great grandmother.

00:29:53.160 She was a slave.

00:29:54.760 She became free.

00:29:56.280 That was my great grandmother.

00:29:58.100 And now you've taken my family history away.

00:30:01.420 Damn right.

00:30:02.540 Wow.

00:30:03.120 Yes, they have.

00:30:04.340 And they're going to continue to do it.

00:30:06.160 I think it's really important to separate because so many young adults are completely they're all in on Black Lives Matter, which you pretty well outlined how what a Marxist group that is.

00:30:20.960 And they don't understand that because they haven't gone to the website.

00:30:24.420 And even if they go to the website, they're not going to understand what they're saying there.

00:30:27.900 They just don't they don't pay enough attention.

00:30:30.580 But you have to separate, I think, the concept of Black Lives Matter, which to everybody they do.

00:30:36.500 Yes.

00:30:36.880 Nobody argues with that, do they?

00:30:38.160 Does anybody say no, no.

00:30:39.700 Black Lives don't matter.

00:30:40.700 I've never heard it.

00:30:41.460 So but if you can separate that principle from the group, I think that's a win.

00:30:48.520 And that is when we just we have to separate the principle from the group because the group is, like you said, evil.

00:30:54.480 The principle is correct.

00:30:56.420 The group is evil.

00:30:59.420 You as a parent cannot separate these things alone if you're not educated on it.

00:31:07.720 If you haven't done your homework, you will lose your children to this movement.

00:31:12.980 It is everywhere.

00:31:14.720 It is popular.

00:31:16.420 You are the dumb parent that doesn't know anything.

00:31:20.580 You really need to work with your with God, with your spouse and do everything you can to educate yourself first.

00:31:32.060 These are going to be extraordinarily tough questions to answer, but it will make you and your family better because only tough questions, honest questions are the ones that make a difference.

00:31:45.120 And you have to get your kids to agree to a dialogue.

00:31:48.900 It's not going to be a one one night thing.

00:31:51.320 It's got to be a dialogue.

00:31:52.880 I think even my own children at times raise, you know, roll their eyes at me.

00:31:59.360 I'm telling you, with everything in me, we have very short period of time we have until possibly the election.

00:32:08.580 I mean, when John Kerry says, you know, there's going to be a revolution, he knows he means it.

00:32:14.140 There's going to be a revolution.

00:32:15.580 Uh, and we also have to stop this hemorrhaging of our police and this hemorrhaging of our, um, uh, of our statues and our history.

00:32:29.500 Do you see there?

00:32:30.640 They're there.

00:32:30.940 They now put a safety box around the Churchill statue in London while they decide what needs to be done.

00:32:38.900 If you lose Winston Churchill, you lose all modern English history.

00:32:47.360 You can't lose Winston Churchill and they're trying.

00:32:53.220 Yeah.

00:32:53.800 Well, they're, I mean, the same thing's happening here with the George Washington statues.

00:32:57.900 I mean, if you lose George Washington, you lose the indispensable man.

00:33:02.980 That's unbelievable.

00:33:04.060 Can you think of a better way to fight back against racism, uh, than getting rid of the guy from history that took out, you know, Adolf Hitler and opposed him with Churchill.

00:33:15.900 It's like the guy, this is the same thing happened with Ulysses Grant.

00:33:20.240 Yes.

00:33:20.580 Grant.

00:33:20.980 They're, they're, they're taking down his statues now.

00:33:23.020 Like what are, like, that's what a white supremacist would do.

00:33:26.280 But he's white.

00:33:27.060 A white supremacist group would go take down the Ulysses S. Grant statues.

00:33:31.420 It doesn't make any sense anymore.

00:33:33.120 I don't even think they're trying to understand.

00:33:35.260 It's just destruction and, and mayhem and chaos.

00:33:38.340 And it points back to, as you point out, Glenn, the website, right?

00:33:41.440 Like these are the things that they're talking about.

00:33:44.800 And it's left exclusively to conservative media to tell you that there is a website and that there is a group with a plan.

00:33:52.900 No, there is at no point.

00:33:54.680 Do you even hear that the media say, look, most people don't agree with these things, but the group does say some pretty crazy out there Marxist stuff.

00:34:03.120 They don't even acknowledge that much, which would still be, you know, questionable and at least a debating.

00:34:08.600 Because they've, they're holy, they're in, uh, toe, leg, body up to their eyeballs in it.

00:34:19.380 Yep.

00:34:19.560 They are fully immersed in this, uh, being the narrative and this winning.

00:34:25.860 And it will mean the destruction of the United States of America.

00:34:29.780 And we need to, uh, make sure that we are, if you want to save the country, the worst thing you can do is to create violence.

00:34:42.480 They want it.

00:34:44.320 They need it.

00:34:46.560 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:34:50.140 So the American Museum of Natural History will remove the statue of Theodore Roosevelt from its entrance after years of objections that it symbolizes colonial expansion and racial discrimination.

00:35:07.140 That's according to Bill de Blasio.

00:35:09.600 Of course, Bill de Blasio is happy for the city to comply, to get rid of Theodore Roosevelt's statue.

00:35:17.420 This is now the Museum of Natural History, who I believe Theodore Roosevelt's dad was on the board of and helped fund it.

00:35:29.040 Um, Theodore Roosevelt, a guy I don't like, the guy was a progressive, started the progressive, uh, party.

00:35:37.880 This is a progressive hero.

00:35:41.100 They're now taking him down.

00:35:43.460 I don't like Theodore Roosevelt.

00:35:48.780 But I don't want his statue gone.

00:35:51.000 And if you're going to remove it there, well, you better start chiseling the face of Mount Rushmore, because he's on that, too.

00:36:01.800 We cannot get rid of our history.

00:36:07.540 Good and bad, it must stand.

00:36:11.380 You are robbing people of the opportunity to explain how nuanced people are.

00:36:18.100 They're not all good, they're not all bad.

00:36:22.560 If you read, uh, history on Winston Churchill from the Indian point of view, you'll hate him.

00:36:28.480 He was a monster.

00:36:29.940 If you read it from the Western point of view, he was amazing.

00:36:35.140 So which was he?

00:36:37.380 Both!

00:36:39.420 Both!

00:36:43.480 We all are.

00:36:48.100 Ulysses S. Grant and Francis Scott Key statues were pulled down.

00:36:57.080 Ulysses S. Grant, he's the guy who led the army that stopped the Confederacy.

00:37:03.560 He's the guy that led the slaves to freedom.

00:37:09.440 He's the guy that stopped the KKK when he was president.

00:37:15.000 He went after them like nobody.

00:37:18.460 He crushed the Klan.

00:37:20.820 He presided over the ratification of the 15th Amendment.

00:37:24.860 How is this guy bad?

00:37:26.840 You know how he's bad?

00:37:28.260 He once had slaves.

00:37:30.600 No, he had a slave, and he didn't have it.

00:37:34.840 It was, believe it or not, the slave was a wedding present.

00:37:39.260 He got rid of him as soon as he could.

00:37:43.920 Set him free.

00:37:46.480 What do you mean he owned slaves?

00:37:49.500 He was given, because of his marriage, a slave.

00:37:54.220 He hated it.

00:37:57.580 Why is he suddenly a slave owner?

00:37:59.860 Holy cow.

00:38:06.420 All right.

00:38:08.580 So they're pulling down our statues.

00:38:10.280 You know a couple of statues that aren't being pulled down?

00:38:12.620 Here's a statue in Seattle.

00:38:15.880 It's a bronze statue of the communist revolutionary known as Lenin.

00:38:22.680 It came from the Czech Republic, as they tore down these statues, because they didn't want these communist dictators everywhere.

00:38:33.240 So it was purchased by somebody in Seattle and eventually was just put into the Fremont district.

00:38:42.420 And so it's on a corner of a street in the Fremont district of Seattle.

00:38:48.040 They're leaving that one up.

00:38:50.880 By the way, the Marxists have unveiled in Germany, in their little chop or chas, they've just unveiled a new Lenin statue as well.

00:39:04.120 Hmm.

00:39:06.740 Okay.

00:39:07.120 But remember, this has nothing to do with changing our history and going towards Marxism.

00:39:13.520 Has nothing to do with that at all.

00:39:16.600 At all.

00:39:20.360 George Washington's Mount Vernon has come out with a warning because they tore down the statue of George Washington in Portland.

00:39:30.760 Without George Washington, there would be no United States.

00:39:33.680 There would be no Constitution, which allows the freedom of speech, assembly and protest, as well as the separation of church and state.

00:39:40.980 And without Washington, we would not have a civilian led military.

00:39:45.700 If we fail to honor George Washington because we only understand him as a slave owner, we're done.

00:39:57.240 Do you hear about the guy in Miami?

00:39:58.860 Vandal used red spray paint to outline the Russian communist symbol of the hammer and the sickle over a plaque

00:40:12.100 on a controversial statue of Juan Ponce de Leon, downtown Miami.

00:40:20.860 Well, Jose Armas.

00:40:32.280 He saw it.

00:40:33.260 He saw the hammer and the sickle and he saw the red paint all over the statue.

00:40:39.640 He's a U.S. citizen.

00:40:45.480 He went and he he showed up in the park.

00:40:48.840 He brought a ladder and cleaning supplies.

00:40:51.520 Last Monday, he was up on the ladder and he was cleaning all of that up.

00:40:54.860 He said he doesn't mind protests, but he minds the color red and the hammer and sickle because he lived through it.

00:41:04.800 He knows what it is.

00:41:05.880 I want to speak to those people who have come from oppression, who have come from Poland, have come from East Germany, have come from behind the Iron Curtain, who know what this is, who have seen it in their own countries, who have lived under Marxist utopias.

00:41:30.460 Your country, your country, your new country needs you more than ever because we just don't get it.

00:41:39.840 We need you more than ever.

00:41:41.600 We need you to stand up.

00:41:43.100 Those of you from Venezuela, you need to stand up.

00:41:46.920 You need to gather together and you need to march to wake American people up.

00:41:52.460 You don't need to march to stop Black Lives Matter.

00:41:54.820 You need to march to wake the American people up because we don't get it and we don't think this could ever happen here.

00:42:04.040 I do.

00:42:05.120 I know exactly what's happening here.

00:42:07.860 And I know we have probably until the election to be able to save our nation.

00:42:15.420 We need you to stand up.

00:42:17.080 You probably know what that means.

00:42:23.200 It means if they win, you're on a list.

00:42:29.980 I want veterans to stand up.

00:42:34.980 But I only want veterans who have control of themselves.

00:42:38.260 I want a veteran.

00:42:46.220 I want some veteran groups to stand up.

00:42:51.620 That will just take the beating.

00:42:55.640 And I know you can do it.

00:42:57.540 I know you can do it.

00:42:59.920 Because you have the kind of honor and integrity that many of our police officers do when they just have people yelling at them.

00:43:08.260 We need those veterans to stand up from all wars.

00:43:12.780 And stand up and surround these monuments in our areas.

00:43:17.820 They cannot be taken down.

00:43:22.380 If we lose Washington, Jefferson, Franklin, Theodore Roosevelt, Abraham Lincoln.

00:43:31.260 If we lose these people, we're done.

00:43:34.960 I don't like Robert E. Lee.

00:43:41.160 But we can't lose our history.

00:43:44.780 And that's all they care about.

00:43:46.800 They say these are offensive and they're oppressive.

00:43:50.380 I've never been oppressed by a statue of anyone.

00:43:54.660 I lived in Seattle.

00:43:56.640 Oh, you know what?

00:43:57.480 I think of the statue of Lenin in Seattle.

00:44:00.800 I think it's stupid.

00:44:02.140 It doesn't impress me.

00:44:05.380 It makes me look at all the people around and go, boy, these people are dumb as a box of rocks, huh?

00:44:12.360 It doesn't impress me.

00:44:14.180 You know, there's a story.

00:44:20.880 If you look in the news overseas, you're going to find a story of war veterans protecting a memorial as BLM protesters take over this whole town.

00:44:32.880 Well, it's up in Scotland.

00:44:37.000 It's in Southport Town and Southport Town Hall.

00:44:40.120 And there was Black Lives Matter coming into town and the vets were afraid that the memorials and the and the statues would be defaced and destroyed.

00:44:51.060 So they got up and they just surrounded wearing, you know, the the colors, whatever it is that they could wear, their their caps, T-shirts that show what what infantry or what, you know, what regiment they were in.

00:45:07.720 And they stood there peacefully.

00:45:11.720 Now, the London press is saying that these veterans are radical right wing groups.

00:45:22.420 They're going to call you all kinds of names.

00:45:29.140 They are doing this country a great disservice and they know it.

00:45:34.100 By marking everyone who is standing up for BLM, a just peaceful, wonderful flower child that we're just going to have a summer of love.

00:45:47.240 And those who stand up and say, wait a minute, wait a minute.

00:45:50.740 This isn't right.

00:45:52.420 As right wing extremist.

00:45:55.460 Well, if believing in this is standing up for the Constitution of the United States and the Bill of Rights and asking for actual justice over social justice, asking for our police, our military and our leaders in Washington to follow the Constitution and act accordingly.

00:46:22.420 If that's what makes me a right wing extremist.

00:46:25.460 Well, then so be it.

00:46:27.400 You have gone so far left.

00:46:29.560 You can't even see the right anymore.

00:46:32.020 You can't even see the middle.

00:46:33.660 Did you see what NPR reported this weekend?

00:46:46.380 Vehicle attacks rise as extremists target protesters from NPR.

00:46:51.800 Apparently, in Virginia, Charlottesville, terrorism, terrorism, terrorism, researchers say right wing extremism is turning cars into weapons in response to ongoing protest against police misconduct.

00:47:08.120 Oh, my gosh, really?

00:47:11.160 Holy cow.

00:47:12.580 That's horrible.

00:47:14.040 Well, here's what happened.

00:47:15.640 A car in Louisville, Kentucky went and just was speeding through and hit a protester.

00:47:24.380 And this is this is honestly right wing for you, except when you actually look at the whole videotape, not the edited tape that NPR did not make a mistake with.

00:47:41.220 It was purposely edited.

00:47:46.240 You're missing the part where the protesters have surrounded the car of this woman.

00:47:52.200 They are yelling and screaming at her, pounding on the window.

00:47:56.200 Then one of them reaches into the car, grabs her hair.

00:48:01.320 And somebody pulls a gun because they're telling her to get out of the car.

00:48:06.300 Would you get out of the car?

00:48:07.900 Because I wouldn't get out of the car.

00:48:09.380 She stepped on the gas to get away from them.

00:48:12.680 And she didn't see the people that were also protesting that were walking across the street.

00:48:17.620 And all of a sudden she hit somebody.

00:48:20.940 That's not a right wing extremist trying to kill these protesters.

00:48:25.500 That's somebody who's panicked because there is no law.

00:48:29.680 We must not take the law in our own hands, but we must stand up for the truth.

00:48:43.120 Melissa Rolfe, the stepmother of the Atlanta police officer now charged with murder.

00:48:58.420 I cannot imagine what it is like to be a parent of this man today.

00:49:05.820 Melissa, how are you?

00:49:08.060 We're doing okay as well as can be expected.

00:49:12.440 We're standing together.

00:49:13.640 So we're hanging in there.

00:49:17.000 I appreciate you coming on and talking about it.

00:49:20.620 Can you tell me, first of all, how is he doing?

00:49:26.140 How's Garrett doing?

00:49:27.220 How is, what is the reaction from, you know, anybody with any kind of sanity?

00:49:36.100 What is this looking like?

00:49:39.440 Well, Garrett is in the best spirits he can be in.

00:49:44.300 But as far as Garrett's case goes, I would just ask you to please call his attorneys and ask them, you know, if you have any questions about Garrett.

00:49:53.720 But as far as him personally, he's holding up, he's strong.

00:49:58.100 And so he's, like I said, considering the circumstances, he's doing well.

00:50:02.580 It must be hard when your city is not supporting and you have a DA that is under investigation for multiple corruption charges who is just using this to get himself reelected.

00:50:23.600 And you have the Bureau of Investigation for Atlanta or for Georgia.

00:50:29.340 They haven't even filed their report yet.

00:50:31.680 They were shocked when they found out that this charge was being made by the DA.

00:50:37.560 Mm-hmm.

00:50:39.200 Can you tell me?

00:50:41.180 Go ahead.

00:50:41.960 I'm going to say, everything you're saying is true.

00:50:44.660 So we were all very shocked as well.

00:50:46.980 All right.

00:50:50.160 So let's take you back to Thursday morning.

00:50:53.780 Thursday morning, you had to turn your son over to the authorities.

00:50:57.180 Tell me what that was like.

00:51:00.080 It was heartbreaking.

00:51:01.920 We were all, you know, obviously devastated.

00:51:05.400 And so that was the plan for the day.

00:51:08.760 And just complete devastation for our family is what that was.

00:51:14.160 And then you got a 56-second phone call from your supervisor at work.

00:51:25.840 Correct.

00:51:26.680 Correct.

00:51:27.180 When was that and what did they say?

00:51:30.460 That was early afternoon.

00:51:33.660 We were coming back home and I had missed a phone call and I was returning it.

00:51:39.420 And up until that point, I had had full support of my company.

00:51:44.140 So I had no, you know, reason not to call them back.

00:51:48.480 And when I called, he answered, said hello.

00:51:53.220 And he said, how are you doing?

00:51:55.720 My direct supervisor, how are you doing?

00:51:57.480 I said, well, I've had better days, but we're okay right now.

00:52:00.980 And he said, well, I just want to let you know we're terminating our relationship with you.

00:52:05.120 And I said, why?

00:52:07.600 What happened?

00:52:08.480 And he said, I can't tell you any further.

00:52:12.840 That was.

00:52:13.540 I can't tell you any further.

00:52:15.540 Nothing any further.

00:52:16.420 Okay.

00:52:16.600 So wait a minute.

00:52:17.140 You are a human resources director at Equity Prime Mortgage, right?

00:52:23.200 Correct.

00:52:23.680 So are you the boss of the human resources department?

00:52:28.180 Yes.

00:52:29.000 As the director?

00:52:29.780 Have you ever had that happen before?

00:52:34.540 Had you ever said, I can't tell you why I'm firing you to somebody at your place?

00:52:42.160 No, I had not.

00:52:43.760 And never before anywhere have I ever just told someone, we're firing you.

00:52:47.780 Goodbye.

00:52:50.780 And so what did you say when they said, well, we can't tell you?

00:52:54.880 I just said, well, I knew he wasn't going to tell me any further.

00:53:00.880 And so at that point, I just said, well, what about my belongings in my office?

00:53:05.300 And he said, well, you can come pick them up.

00:53:08.040 We'll leave them downstairs with security or we can ship them to you.

00:53:12.180 I said, well, please just ship them to me.

00:53:14.360 I don't really want to be in Atlanta right now.

00:53:16.280 So that was it.

00:53:18.280 In the 56 seconds and he hung up.

00:53:20.180 And then how did you find out that they were saying that it was you were creating a hostile work environment?

00:53:29.640 I was notified that they had put a statement on their company website is how I was notified.

00:53:39.100 It's there now.

00:53:39.780 If you pull up the company website, everything's been taken down except this extremely hurtful statement about me that's on there.

00:53:48.540 It's embarrassing and it's hurtful and it's very, it's just false.

00:53:51.940 I'm not aware of anything I've done to this company except, you know, I was, like I said, up until they fired me, I was, it was my belief that I had their full support.

00:54:03.920 So this is just, it's a false statement that I've done anything, but it's so hurtful.

00:54:09.320 So, so, so, I mean, you are, you're in charge of HR and you and I both know that unless you did something grievous, that was a fireable offense, creating a hostile work environment would be something that you would usually sit somebody down and say, hey, what's going on?

00:54:33.060 You've been a good employee, then this is happening.

00:54:35.880 What's, what's happening in your life?

00:54:37.580 What's going on?

00:54:38.500 And you don't fire somebody and they're surprised by a charge like that.

00:54:44.900 Do, do, do they, do you?

00:54:47.180 Not, not typically.

00:54:48.740 Um, I know Georgia is an, is an at will state, uh, right to work state.

00:54:54.520 I get that, but typically you can't fire someone for an illegal reason, but they haven't told me anything.

00:55:00.180 I'm, I have no knowledge of anything that I've done.

00:55:03.940 And since when I left work, uh, on Friday, the 12th, everything was great and I haven't been back to the office yet.

00:55:11.580 So I'm not sure what I did to create a hostile work environment.

00:55:15.600 They, they, they won't tell me anything.

00:55:20.260 Is it possible that your hostile work environment was caused just by your presence because of your son?

00:55:28.700 That is a possibility.

00:55:30.280 That is a possibility.

00:55:31.220 But again, I can't confirm or deny.

00:55:33.840 I, they, I, they just haven't told me anything.

00:55:36.620 So, um, I mean, it's just kind of strange timing, but you know, it goes along with, with all of this with Garrett.

00:55:44.800 But, um, you know, I, like I said, right now, it's just this horrible, uh, statement is on their website about me and, and it's false.

00:55:52.800 It's just completely false.

00:55:55.260 So, Melissa, what do you, what do you want from them or what do you think should happen?

00:56:02.580 Uh, well, honestly, I haven't really gotten that far yet.

00:56:09.360 Um, I, I'm still trying to take it all in.

00:56:12.360 Uh, we've had, you know, so much going on this past week that, um, I don't want this focus taken away from Garrett, but I don't want this focus taken away from this movement that we're trying to continue with the law enforcement across this nation.

00:56:28.160 Um, this is their chance and, and to, you know, to, for this movement that's going on now.

00:56:33.720 And I want to see that continue.

00:56:35.620 So I, I don't, as, as bad as it is what's happened to me, I don't want it to take that focus away from what's so much more important right now.

00:56:43.620 And, and that's our son, but it's this nation right now.

00:56:48.820 Uh, how come you haven't been, most people would be silent.

00:56:53.640 Um, they would learn their lesson.

00:56:55.880 Their son is, uh, facing jail time.

00:56:58.560 You've lost your job.

00:57:00.320 Uh, you know, it's, it's happening all over the country where people are losing their jobs because they did or didn't say one thing in particular.

00:57:09.660 Um, why weren't you scared into silence?

00:57:11.680 Uh, I wasn't scared into silence because that's not what's right.

00:57:17.500 Uh, it's time that we stood up and, and, and stood up against what we believe is wrong.

00:57:23.300 And, and the war that's on, on the police officers right now is wrong and, and we have to stand up.

00:57:28.700 And if it costs me a job to fight for my son, then so be it.

00:57:32.960 But, um, you know, as a mama, I'm going to fight for my children.

00:57:37.420 Uh, that's just the way it is.

00:57:38.940 And I believe most people feel the same way I do.

00:57:41.680 Your son ever been accused of being a racist?

00:57:48.000 I mean, more than what everybody, because they're white, has been accused of.

00:57:51.920 Now, has your son ever been accused of being a racist or had any of these problems in the past?

00:57:57.620 Not that I've ever heard.

00:58:00.960 Um, Garrett is a wonderful young man.

00:58:03.560 He's, he's so kind hearted.

00:58:05.840 He's extremely intelligent.

00:58:07.840 He's the kind that, you know, no matter what you need, he's there for you.

00:58:11.160 Um, he's just a wonderful person and he, he just loves everybody.

00:58:15.120 So, uh, not that I've ever heard.

00:58:17.160 So, Melissa, when you look at the police, I can't imagine why they're still on the job.

00:58:24.480 I really can't.

00:58:25.600 When you look at what's happening to the police in Atlanta and everywhere in the nation, there are bad police officers, but the majority of them are good.

00:58:35.480 Um, when you see what is going on and you see how, um, they're being treated in Atlanta, would you tell your son to go back to work if, if he was clear to this?

00:58:54.820 That's a tough one.

00:58:58.920 I, that, that's, that's a tough question.

00:59:03.180 My heart would tell me, no, I don't want him to go back into a line of work like that, but he loves it.

00:59:10.700 He loves the job.

00:59:12.080 Um, as most police officers that we've talked to, they love the job.

00:59:16.300 Um, you know, and, and so if he chose to go back into it, we would definitely support him if that's what he, he wanted to do.

00:59:23.420 But, um, again, my heart would tell me, try to, try to talk him out of it.

00:59:29.560 Um, the, uh, the, um, the, the employer that you have equity prime mortgage has 23 fundamentals that they say everybody that they operate on.

00:59:42.800 Uh, and when they rebranded recently, they put these fundamentals out.

00:59:47.360 Were they really drumming these fundamentals in your head at the, at the place?

00:59:52.000 They're absolutely, they're on all their social media sites and we're expected to live by them.

00:59:57.820 And yeah.

00:59:59.640 All right.

01:00:00.180 So let me just give you some of them, uh, practice blameless problem solving.

01:00:04.960 Do you think they, they did that?

01:00:07.460 No, no.

01:00:08.660 I think they failed miserably on all 23 counts.

01:00:11.120 Um, yeah.

01:00:12.780 Do the right thing.

01:00:13.880 Always honor commitments, speak with courage, show sincere appreciation, listen generously, um, uh, share the best information, uh, choose positivity, uh, be proud of our appearance.

01:00:30.180 Show you care, get the details, right?

01:00:32.560 Always be evolving.

01:00:34.820 Oh, that's an interesting one.

01:00:35.920 Um, um, and demonstrate empathy.

01:00:39.680 Have they empathized with you?

01:00:42.620 They started to for the first few days and then I, who knows what happened, but no, I, like I said, when they, when they got tested on those fundamentals, they caved and failed.

01:00:53.860 Um, and how is your relationship with the, um, rest of the community?

01:01:01.140 What kind of feedback are you getting from them?

01:01:04.340 Are you guys safe?

01:01:07.260 Yes.

01:01:08.180 Yes.

01:01:08.620 We, um, it, the support has been absolutely incredible.

01:01:12.640 We've heard from people all over the world, um, showing support and, um, we've heard from Australia, Egypt, Scotland, uh, Russia as of this morning.

01:01:23.860 Um, we've heard from all over the world, people just need to offer prayers and thoughts of, you know, for what's going on and not just with, uh, the situation in Atlanta, but for our country.

01:01:34.920 So, you know, it's, it's just been overwhelming and, and so wonderful that, um, it's humbling really is what it is to see how many people came out in support of law enforcement.

01:01:44.760 Um, do you have, uh, enough money for really good attorneys and how are you faring on?

01:01:53.860 All of this.

01:01:54.460 Now you've lost your job.

01:01:55.620 Your son is, needs the best attorneys.

01:01:58.460 How are you guys faring on this?

01:02:00.760 Uh, well, the, uh, uh, defense fund for, for Garrett is, um, has grown, you know, just people have been so wonderful to donate.

01:02:10.600 Um, and that's, what's important.

01:02:13.220 I, I'm not worried about myself.

01:02:15.100 I will figure out something somewhere.

01:02:16.700 I'll get a job.

01:02:17.400 That's not even important right now.

01:02:19.040 Um, that we, this has got to be, it's just so much bigger than me.

01:02:22.720 I'm, I'm just not worried about myself right now.

01:02:24.340 So, um, but, but Garrett's defense fund is, is, um, secured.

01:02:29.280 And, um, so we're, we're just thankful that so many people were willing to reach out and, and, um, and so many people are sending cards and, and letters and just want to say, you know, we're thinking of you, we're praying for you.

01:02:40.480 And, uh, that means so much to Garrett as well.

01:02:44.500 So the, uh, the defense is being done by Georgia law enforcement, uh, organization.

01:02:49.700 You can find out how you can get involved at Georgia Leo.org, Georgia Leo.org.

01:02:57.420 Um, and, uh, that is where he is being defended and you can find more on the story.

01:03:03.440 Thank you so much, uh, for coming on and sharing your story, Melissa.

01:03:07.420 I appreciate it.

01:03:08.180 And, uh, I wish you the best of luck.

01:03:10.480 Na, na, na, na, na.

The Glenn Beck Program - June 22, 2020

Best of The Program ｜ Guest： Melissa Rolfe ｜ 6⧸22⧸20

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