00:06:53.440he was like pro abortion i mean pro life all of these things he was like dead set against he was
00:06:58.640a democrat dead set against it and he came out finally and he was crying and he's like okay okay
00:07:04.240they made a deal with me and i'm gonna pass it i mean where's the strong arm here what what do you
00:07:12.120have if you can't if you're just like well i've talked to everybody and everybody doesn't then
00:07:16.440what use are you what use are you you can't make any deal with anyone this gets to the point of
00:07:24.440what the senate actually is for which is to solve problems and the obamacare example is very
00:07:29.640instructive because again what the senate provides you as an institution is the ability to leverage
00:07:35.240the physically grueling process of deliberation and what harry reed did when he passed obamacare
00:07:40.500people may remember it actually passed in two parts it passed one as part of a reconciliation
00:07:44.820vehicle, a simple majority. But the second part passed, the major policy of Obamacare passed the
00:07:51.100Senate in its traditional form, subject to a filibuster. Now, Harry Reid had 60 Democrats,
00:07:57.280but he didn't have 60 votes. Okay? He had Lieberman, and he had Ben Nelson. He had to
00:08:02.820chase those votes. And he had Republicans on the other side throwing every possible delay tactic
00:08:08.120at him. And so what Harry Reid did is he didn't walk around and say, well, I just don't have 60
00:08:11.840votes. Sorry. He used the institution. I was in D.C. when this happened. He said, we are not going
00:08:17.820home. You want to obstruct? You want to vote? No, fine. You can do that. But you're going to do it
00:08:22.06024-7 in the chamber, nights and weekends, and we're not leaving until it stopped. And do you
00:08:27.180remember when that statutory part of Obamacare passed? It passed on Christmas Eve. Because he
00:08:33.040leveraged every single opportunity he had to say, fine, you can oppose me, but you are going to
00:08:38.580physically pay for your opposition this has been how the senate has operated for 200 years
00:08:42.740except now under john when it cannot do anything yes so what the hell is his problem
00:08:49.740have you figured that piece out yet what is his deal it's bigger than john thune unfortunately
00:08:56.620and it is that the conference now has one loyalty and it's to their own comfort right what john
00:09:03.100thune doesn't want to do is to announce to his conference by the way guys we are going to start
00:09:08.080doing midnight quorum calls. We're going to start working Fridays, even, or Mondays during the day,
00:09:13.960things that they never do. If John Thune announces that, his conference is going to whine. They're
00:09:18.300going to grumble. A lot of them will just go home anyway, and it will be John Thune becomes the
00:09:23.020enemy of his conference. They have one loyalty, and it's to their own comfort, and that is really
00:09:26.840hamstringing the Senate because the Senate, again, for 200 years has operated in this deliberate
00:09:31.700environment, which takes work, and this current Senate works two and a half days a week, Glenn,
00:09:37.200OK, they work Monday night to Thursday at noon and they go on recess, you know, for weeks.
00:09:42.040They don't stay in Washington and do this work.
00:09:44.100And what we are talking about doing, a true deliberative environment where you are dealing with an obstructive minority like you are with the Democrats, it takes work.
00:09:51.720And these senators simply do not want to do it.
00:09:53.620So can John Thune as leader, right, show some, you know, small L leadership and say, guys, you know, get in the locker room.
00:10:03.000Yes, he could do that, but he's chosen not to.
00:10:04.760But the problem is bigger than John Thune. Honestly, it's the entire Republican conference outside of a few doesn't want to put in the work.
00:10:11.820That's that's totally fine. But it takes a leader to say, I don't give a flying crap.0.99
00:10:17.600You're staying. You're staying. It takes a leader who's willing to take the arrows and the slings and the bruises and say, go ahead, punch me again.0.99
00:10:27.080i'm not going anywhere it's going to end up between you and me and i know i'm not going
00:10:32.560anywhere so we're doing it that's what a leader does john thune has absolute i would0.99
00:10:40.820he doesn't need hormone therapy he's already a woman he has absolutely no balls um tell me why0.98
00:10:50.200he's not doing the reconciliation thing what is his excuse on the reconciliation thing0.97
00:10:54.500Well, it's that his conference does not want to do another voterama before the midterms.
00:11:02.720And if people are familiar with this process, it's an unlimited amendment process in the
00:11:50.900have the defense hawks who are getting billions of dollars. They also want more. So there's a
00:11:55.240number of those issues as well. Thune has said, I would prefer to take that budget resolution
00:12:00.540coming over from the House, carve out the substance and replace it with a CR, with a
00:12:05.900government funding bill. I can't take these CRs anymore. We have no government. If you're just
00:12:15.640continuing resolution you have no government you have it's just a giant blob of money out there0.94
00:12:22.040and we haven't made a single damn decision since 2008 these people are worthless they're worth at0.65
00:12:29.180least the leadership is worthless you know i have senators who call me and say i can't i don't even0.96
00:12:34.920know why i'm here anymore we don't actually do anything this is a deliberative body we don't do
00:12:40.080anything why am i wasting my time here and i'm running out of reasons for them to stay i really
00:12:45.340No, it really what you've hit on the current state of the Senate, it's it's an existential threat to the Senate itself, because I think you have a number of senators who are rightly asking that question.
00:12:56.740What do what do I even do? It's funny.
00:12:58.920You know, I talk a lot about the Senate to various groups in Washington.
00:13:02.900And I talk about when senators were titans, when they moved history, when senators, states and they really honestly there were times where senators were more famous than presidents because they were more powerful than presidents in many ways.
00:13:13.940and they wielded power with dignity and authority.
00:13:41.720the quality of senators are going to go down
00:13:43.500Because why would any respectable member of society want to put themselves through that?
00:13:47.560But two, you're also at a critical point in the conference where members have never seen a Senate that operates any differently.
00:13:53.560They don't know how to aspire to what the Senate used to be.
00:13:56.200And so I do think we are at a very dangerous point, a tipping point for the Senate, where it's either going to save itself or it's going to continue into this complete irrelevance and decline.