The Glenn Beck Program - August 14, 2019


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The Tiananmen Square massacre of 1989 was one of the most infamous events of the 20th century in China. It took place in the summer of 1989 in the heart of China, in the city of Beijing, during the protests against the Chinese government s crackdown on the pro-democracy movement.

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00:00:00.000 hey welcome to the podcast got a great one for you today before we start though i want to tell you
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00:00:28.720 media get your tickets now they go on sale for the general public on friday yeah okay make sure
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00:00:39.740 it's a great way to celebrate the holiday yep uh so get your tickets at glennbeck.com okay
00:00:44.280 on today's program uh we start with uh Tiananmen square and hong kong uh then we we uh also talk
00:00:55.240 a little bit about warren and wilson uh elizabeth warren who is now according to the latest poll
00:01:01.160 today stew down by one point down by one point is she woodrow wilson also some investigative reporting
00:01:09.500 uh that is uh on our television show tonight we cover it in the podcast today great show you
00:01:15.460 don't want to miss it especially kevin ryan who we sent out and we didn't give him combat pay
00:01:21.920 we sent him to the iowa state fair to cover the candidates wait until you hear that all on today's
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00:01:38.160 i remember it was the summer of 1989
00:01:45.680 and i remember seeing something happen in china and this was this was a magical five years for freedom
00:01:56.360 communism was falling apart berlin wall was coming down and people in china students 0.91
00:02:05.800 made a statue of liberty in tiananmen square
00:02:10.760 they were standing up for freedom and the rights of all men
00:02:16.160 it was amazing
00:02:18.140 and then everything turned june 3rd 1989
00:02:23.680 200 000 soldiers crawled through the streets of beijing
00:02:29.980 aiming their type 56 assault rifles at students and protesters
00:02:34.740 they were charged with forcibly ending a counter-revolutionary riot
00:02:41.140 it was muggy that day a raving heat overtook the air
00:02:46.720 riots usually happen in the summertime the heat does something to us i think
00:02:52.020 the protesters who had been protesting for seven weeks
00:02:56.360 tried everything to stop the infantry soldiers from the people's liberation army
00:03:00.960 they sang traditional folk songs they begged they pled
00:03:05.120 a type 56 ar fire 650 rounds per minute one bullet right after another
00:03:13.260 many of the soldiers rifles were loaded with expanding bullets
00:03:17.120 these are the kinds that are are banned even in the use of warfare by the hague
00:03:23.060 but the soldiers loaded their guns with those bullets
00:03:27.360 and open fired on the group of students and protesters
00:03:30.440 by the end of it 200 civilians had died
00:03:35.960 and that's that's the number according to the chinese government
00:03:40.260 the truth is more devastating
00:03:42.700 estimates run to over 10 000 people died
00:03:48.420 you can do that in places like china
00:03:51.320 well that was the summer of 1989 and here we are in the summer of 2019
00:03:59.240 just a little over 30 years ago
00:04:01.760 and in china the memory of the massacre has been roundly suppressed
00:04:07.400 you know we still don't know the fate or even the name of the guy
00:04:11.840 who stood in front of the tank in tiananmen square
00:04:14.700 we don't know what happened to many of those people
00:04:18.500 the facts have been suppressed the government has never apologized
00:04:22.180 officially footage and audio and photographs of the massacre don't even exist
00:04:28.520 and don't think it can't happen again
00:04:30.900 don't assume technology will stop a human problem
00:04:34.580 looked at what happened in iran for one
00:04:37.980 the tiananmen massacre massacre doesn't appear in search results
00:04:43.080 did you know that look it up tiananmen massacre
00:04:47.000 you can search for it
00:04:48.460 but if you're anywhere in china
00:04:50.760 it's part of what's called china's great firewall
00:04:56.360 prolific government censorship
00:04:59.160 chinese children don't read about it in their textbooks at all
00:05:03.620 even the day after the attacks june 4th
00:05:07.780 there was no mention of the attacks on the propaganda driven news
00:05:12.120 the only hint that something terrible that had happened
00:05:15.960 was that the news anchors were all dressed in black in solidarity with the slain protesters
00:05:22.200 some of those anchors were fired immediately
00:05:26.500 one of them banned from ever reporting the news ever again in china
00:05:31.300 what we're seeing now in hong kong is history
00:05:36.640 but it will most likely be a history that only the west will remember if we even pay attention
00:05:44.920 hong kong is home to seven million residents with 30 million visitors and tourists every single year
00:05:53.680 yesterday riot police stormed the hong kong international airport in an effort to break up the protests that have
00:06:00.620 raged through the city for weeks
00:06:03.300 the chinese government decried the protesters and their actions as acts of terrorism
00:06:09.640 like with tiananmen 1.00
00:06:13.380 many of the protesters weren't even trying to overthrow the government
00:06:17.300 at first they were just protesting the extradition bill that would require a hong kong resident
00:06:23.760 who doesn't pay taxes to the government in beijing
00:06:26.820 to serve time in and on mainland china
00:06:30.920 crackdowns by hong kong police made things only worse
00:06:35.800 the u.s state department said that the u.s is
00:06:38.940 quote staunch in our support for freedom of expression
00:06:42.340 and freedom of peaceful assembly in hong kong
00:06:46.020 end quote
00:06:46.880 but that's about as strong as we're going to get
00:06:49.980 so far the protesters have proven adept at broadcasting the truth
00:06:56.120 but is anybody listening
00:06:58.200 because as we've seen before
00:07:01.440 they're going to need far more than that
00:07:03.680 and who knows how much worse things really are
00:07:07.280 who knows what information is being suppressed by the state-owned government
00:07:11.280 beijing has ratcheted up the inflammatory rhetoric
00:07:16.580 china media has even said to hong kong protesters
00:07:19.720 are asking for self-destruction
00:07:22.680 according to the new york times in recent days
00:07:26.760 china has more aggressively stirred up nationalist and anti-western sentiment
00:07:31.600 using state and social media
00:07:34.240 it has manipulated the context of images and videos to undermine the protesters
00:07:39.840 chinese officials have begun branding the demonstrations
00:07:43.260 as a prelude to terrorism
00:07:45.660 end quote
00:07:47.080 president trump has remained calm
00:07:50.480 after announcing on twitter
00:07:52.340 that the chinese government is moving troops to the border with hong kong
00:07:56.080 he wrote quote
00:07:56.920 everyone should remain calm
00:07:59.320 and safe
00:08:00.400 beijing described the anti-government protest
00:08:04.320 as deranged acts
00:08:06.320 hmm
00:08:07.400 these people will be
00:08:09.540 red flagged at best
00:08:11.960 that they have spouts
00:08:14.420 of terrorism
00:08:15.660 and
00:08:16.740 they added that any further violence will be severely punished
00:08:20.060 without leniency
00:08:21.140 and without mercy
00:08:22.660 and a government like china
00:08:24.860 means that
00:08:26.200 and if we're not careful
00:08:28.260 the chinese government
00:08:29.540 will attack its own people 0.99
00:08:31.960 and
00:08:32.320 we won't notice
00:08:33.780 how are the google results
00:08:37.780 on china
00:08:39.560 today
00:08:40.300 how about facebook
00:08:41.980 these companies that are
00:08:43.260 more than willing
00:08:44.760 to help
00:08:46.040 china
00:08:46.780 in their government
00:08:48.100 suppression
00:08:48.860 of people
00:08:50.020 the morning after
00:08:54.280 tiananmen square
00:08:55.240 the massacre
00:08:56.360 pla troops
00:08:57.960 tore down the statue
00:08:59.360 of the goddess
00:09:00.120 of democracy
00:09:01.100 which had become a symbol
00:09:03.140 of the protesters hope
00:09:04.460 but we've seen through the propaganda
00:09:07.760 we all remember that one photo
00:09:11.000 of the one man standing
00:09:12.140 in front of the row
00:09:13.840 of tanks
00:09:14.380 ready to die
00:09:15.280 if that's what
00:09:16.660 it took
00:09:17.460 novelist
00:09:23.320 pico lyre said
00:09:25.320 quote
00:09:25.920 the heroes of the tank picture
00:09:28.640 are two
00:09:29.360 the unknown figure
00:09:31.140 in front of the juggernaut
00:09:32.340 and the driver
00:09:33.160 who rose to the moral challenge
00:09:34.960 by refusing
00:09:35.720 to mow down
00:09:36.660 his compatriot
00:09:37.700 end quote
00:09:38.920 the picture
00:09:40.940 of the tank man
00:09:42.060 the most iconic images
00:09:44.000 of the 20th century
00:09:45.160 is not known
00:09:47.500 by the billions
00:09:48.660 of people
00:09:49.420 in china
00:09:50.600 especially
00:09:52.240 among younger people
00:09:54.340 last week
00:09:56.600 the head of the central government's office
00:09:58.340 in hong kong
00:09:59.040 warned members
00:09:59.960 that it is now a
00:10:01.420 quote
00:10:01.660 life or death fight
00:10:02.940 for the very future
00:10:03.940 of hong kong
00:10:04.680 there is no room
00:10:05.680 for retreat
00:10:06.380 end quote
00:10:07.040 there is a great song
00:10:10.840 by charles wright
00:10:11.680 in the watts
00:10:12.340 103rd street
00:10:13.720 rhythm band
00:10:14.560 it is about
00:10:15.860 our collective
00:10:16.380 humanity
00:10:17.220 if all men
00:10:19.140 were truly
00:10:19.800 brothers
00:10:20.260 why then
00:10:21.340 do we hurt
00:10:22.100 one another
00:10:22.700 love and peace
00:10:24.320 from ocean
00:10:24.960 to ocean
00:10:25.620 someone please
00:10:27.360 second
00:10:27.940 my emotion
00:10:28.740 we may not know
00:10:32.900 what to do
00:10:33.400 about it
00:10:33.900 as individuals
00:10:34.840 but let's not act
00:10:35.840 like this isn't happening
00:10:36.900 who is the unknown rebel
00:10:39.640 who will be the man
00:10:41.560 who stands out
00:10:42.440 in front of a
00:10:43.540 a bank
00:10:44.960 grocery stores
00:10:46.060 in each hand
00:10:46.620 groceries in each hand
00:10:48.180 we don't know
00:10:50.240 who's going to do that
00:10:51.260 this time
00:10:51.980 we've yet to find out
00:10:53.340 but we do know
00:10:55.260 what's at stake
00:10:56.280 and it's at stake
00:10:57.520 all around the world
00:10:58.740 freedom
00:11:00.040 freedom from tyranny
00:11:02.220 real true democracy
00:11:05.260 not mob rule
00:11:06.860 there's a reason
00:11:09.960 the protesters
00:11:10.580 have been waving
00:11:11.580 American flags
00:11:12.680 through the air
00:11:13.240 in Hong Kong
00:11:15.220 they're fighting
00:11:15.960 for their freedom
00:11:17.040 of assembly
00:11:17.900 their freedom
00:11:18.920 of speech
00:11:19.880 their freedom
00:11:20.640 of press
00:11:21.560 they're fighting
00:11:24.060 for the same
00:11:24.660 things that are
00:11:25.720 all outlined
00:11:26.620 in our first amendment
00:11:28.020 something unique
00:11:29.700 to the United States
00:11:30.900 of America
00:11:31.540 America
00:11:32.540 and if you have
00:11:33.820 any doubts
00:11:34.420 about how great
00:11:35.700 our true rights
00:11:38.280 are
00:11:38.740 how great
00:11:39.660 our founders
00:11:41.080 were
00:11:41.460 how great
00:11:42.280 our constitution
00:11:43.340 is
00:11:44.320 listen to what
00:11:47.940 happened yesterday
00:11:48.960 in Hong Kong
00:11:51.020 Chinese protesters
00:11:53.480 holding American flags
00:11:56.480 and singing
00:11:58.140 this song
00:11:59.040 and the rocket's red glare
00:12:16.460 the bombs bursting in air
00:12:19.900 gave proof through the night
00:12:23.400 and the flag was still there
00:12:26.780 oh say the stars
00:12:29.660 the stars
00:12:30.220 sprinkled
00:12:31.180 their nighed way
00:12:34.000 oh the land
00:12:38.240 of the free
00:12:39.880 and the home
00:12:44.200 of the brave
00:12:47.060 we may not be able
00:12:50.640 to
00:12:51.180 help them
00:12:53.400 as individuals
00:12:54.540 but we should
00:12:56.460 at least recognize
00:12:57.780 what they're fighting
00:12:59.040 for
00:12:59.500 what they're fighting
00:13:02.060 for
00:13:02.500 is something
00:13:03.660 that most of us
00:13:04.900 just take
00:13:06.080 for granted
00:13:06.820 our thoughts
00:13:09.060 and prayers
00:13:09.580 are with those
00:13:11.200 in Hong Kong
00:13:13.200 and all of those
00:13:14.940 anywhere
00:13:15.520 on earth
00:13:16.460 that recognize
00:13:18.720 the basic
00:13:19.820 human rights
00:13:20.820 and are willing
00:13:22.360 to stand
00:13:23.220 not only
00:13:25.480 die for
00:13:26.820 but they've found
00:13:29.500 something to live for
00:13:30.980 hello
00:13:39.140 and uh
00:13:40.420 welcome
00:13:40.860 so we uh
00:13:43.360 uh
00:13:45.040 we're excited today
00:13:46.060 we are announcing
00:13:46.960 uh
00:13:47.620 a christmas show
00:13:49.040 that i'm going to be doing
00:13:50.060 i haven't done
00:13:51.060 how many years
00:13:52.060 has it been
00:13:52.560 10 12 years
00:13:54.280 maybe it has been that long
00:13:56.120 but it's been a long time
00:13:57.500 been a long time
00:13:58.660 since we did a christmas show
00:14:00.020 and uh
00:14:00.960 we've done
00:14:01.440 you know
00:14:01.860 i've
00:14:02.040 i used to do these
00:14:03.300 every year
00:14:04.000 and i loved them
00:14:05.540 and it was a time
00:14:06.800 to tell family stories
00:14:08.520 and it's
00:14:09.760 there's no politics
00:14:10.820 in it
00:14:11.280 it's all uh
00:14:13.020 really comedy
00:14:13.880 and heart
00:14:14.580 the search
00:14:15.640 for the true meaning
00:14:16.660 of christmas
00:14:18.100 and you don't
00:14:18.880 want to miss it
00:14:19.780 new stories
00:14:20.820 and some of the
00:14:21.460 classic christmas stories
00:14:22.720 uh
00:14:23.520 and the true meaning
00:14:24.360 of christmas
00:14:25.040 it is happening
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00:16:16.100 all right glennbeck.com
00:16:17.840 how are you stew
00:16:19.580 i'm very well glenn
00:16:21.100 luckily there's nothing
00:16:22.060 going on in the world
00:16:23.040 that's uh
00:16:23.720 right
00:16:24.160 leading to any chaos
00:16:25.480 no
00:16:25.840 so i'm very calm
00:16:26.700 everything's going fine
00:16:27.700 yeah
00:16:28.120 everything is going to be fine
00:16:29.420 everything is
00:16:30.360 everything is okay
00:16:31.520 everything is uh
00:16:32.660 what was everything is
00:16:33.660 what is this song
00:16:34.820 from the lake
00:16:35.240 awesome
00:16:35.640 everything is awesome
00:16:36.800 everything is awesome
00:16:37.960 it looks like there is
00:16:38.900 some good news though
00:16:39.520 with uh the
00:16:40.640 tariffs and such
00:16:42.260 seemingly at least
00:16:43.260 being delayed until
00:16:44.120 uh after the holidays
00:16:45.400 uh which is a positive
00:16:47.520 at least in the very
00:16:48.200 short term
00:16:48.740 so hopefully that
00:16:50.000 continues
00:16:50.500 um but uh
00:16:52.300 you know the stuff
00:16:53.200 in hong kong is
00:16:53.980 pretty serious
00:16:54.600 and uh
00:16:56.120 i mean i'm very
00:16:57.100 nervous about which
00:16:57.820 candidates are going to
00:16:58.520 make this next debate
00:16:59.340 it looks like it might
00:17:00.020 only be
00:17:00.440 10 or 11
00:17:02.000 oh you're kidding
00:17:03.040 we're going to lose
00:17:03.320 like half the field
00:17:04.260 here guys
00:17:04.940 oh no
00:17:05.280 i'm very disappointed
00:17:06.300 we're not going to
00:17:07.320 we're not going to lose
00:17:08.420 the average joe
00:17:09.760 you know betto
00:17:10.500 are we
00:17:10.940 i think betto's
00:17:12.120 going to be okay
00:17:12.900 but you know
00:17:13.400 we might lose
00:17:14.000 marianne
00:17:14.660 oh shut up
00:17:15.740 we may lose marianne
00:17:16.360 well does she change
00:17:17.220 her own tire
00:17:17.720 will she
00:17:18.720 the best of the
00:17:22.820 glenn beck program
00:17:24.000 hey it's glenn
00:17:31.360 and if you like
00:17:31.980 what you hear
00:17:32.340 on the program
00:17:32.960 you should check
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00:17:39.220 ben how
00:17:40.140 he is um
00:17:41.360 he is an
00:17:42.260 interesting man
00:17:43.060 columnist
00:17:43.680 podcaster
00:17:44.320 television writer
00:17:45.240 filmmaker
00:17:46.220 award-winning
00:17:47.060 political ad
00:17:47.960 producer
00:17:48.360 i mean
00:17:48.880 he is
00:17:50.620 uh he's one of
00:17:51.940 the most sought
00:17:52.580 after uh talents
00:17:54.020 in the industry
00:17:55.020 uh when it comes
00:17:56.460 to messaging
00:17:57.080 uh and
00:17:58.540 and ads
00:17:59.520 and i think
00:18:00.300 if you look at
00:18:00.960 the story of
00:18:01.600 america
00:18:02.160 we had good
00:18:04.460 founding fathers
00:18:06.000 it had
00:18:06.440 principles
00:18:07.140 and we would
00:18:09.040 stray but those
00:18:10.220 founders would just
00:18:11.560 keep saying the
00:18:12.420 same principles
00:18:13.120 to us
00:18:13.780 and we
00:18:15.380 might lose
00:18:16.120 our way
00:18:16.760 um
00:18:18.060 but for a while
00:18:19.500 there we kept
00:18:20.180 returning to
00:18:20.880 those principles
00:18:21.600 and now i think
00:18:22.560 we've gotten
00:18:24.420 into a dark
00:18:25.120 period where
00:18:25.960 we
00:18:26.240 we're beginning
00:18:28.720 to question
00:18:29.240 whether we're
00:18:29.760 good at all
00:18:30.860 anymore
00:18:31.520 uh and
00:18:33.800 that's our
00:18:34.380 biggest problem
00:18:35.200 we can't even
00:18:36.360 see our
00:18:37.340 upbringing and
00:18:38.100 our principles
00:18:38.680 uh anymore
00:18:39.820 and i think
00:18:42.140 ben how's
00:18:42.800 life
00:18:43.360 is is almost
00:18:45.340 that same
00:18:45.960 story welcome
00:18:46.800 to the program
00:18:47.360 ben how are
00:18:47.940 you
00:18:48.320 i'm good
00:18:49.560 thanks for
00:18:49.940 that introduction
00:18:50.420 i really
00:18:50.820 appreciate it
00:18:51.440 um do you
00:18:52.580 see what i'm
00:18:52.980 do you see
00:18:53.380 what i'm saying
00:18:53.860 about comparing
00:18:54.780 your life
00:18:55.340 to america
00:18:56.040 i do
00:18:57.900 i think
00:18:58.420 um you know
00:18:59.660 there's lots
00:19:00.220 of people
00:19:01.040 across the
00:19:01.500 country
00:19:01.820 where uh
00:19:02.940 they run
00:19:03.520 into this
00:19:03.860 situation
00:19:04.320 where their
00:19:05.720 principles
00:19:06.180 are really
00:19:07.400 important to
00:19:07.940 them but the
00:19:08.380 urgency of their
00:19:09.120 lives also
00:19:09.900 invades
00:19:10.600 and i think
00:19:11.980 worldwide what
00:19:12.840 america has
00:19:13.420 tried to do
00:19:14.040 is uh maintain
00:19:15.920 our values
00:19:17.380 ahead sometimes
00:19:19.000 of what might
00:19:20.800 be the easiest
00:19:21.560 or most urgent
00:19:22.420 solution and i
00:19:23.560 think that's an
00:19:23.980 important thing
00:19:24.520 it's what i do
00:19:25.080 try to do i
00:19:26.160 fail often at
00:19:27.060 uh just like
00:19:27.860 anyone would
00:19:28.280 i think we all
00:19:28.780 do but
00:19:29.220 so ben so ben
00:19:30.600 help me out on
00:19:31.220 on this because
00:19:31.820 you you have a
00:19:32.640 new book out
00:19:33.340 called the
00:19:34.180 immoral majority
00:19:35.480 which is a
00:19:36.920 fascinating uh
00:19:38.420 read and and
00:19:39.700 and i want
00:19:40.940 to i want
00:19:41.380 to pose a
00:19:41.820 couple of
00:19:42.120 things to
00:19:42.520 you for
00:19:42.860 instance
00:19:43.300 hong kong 0.86
00:19:44.560 my principle
00:19:45.940 says that we
00:19:47.300 should stand
00:19:48.120 with the people
00:19:48.720 of hong kong
00:19:49.540 however i'm
00:19:51.460 president of the
00:19:52.660 united states
00:19:53.620 i probably go
00:19:54.940 with the economy
00:19:55.920 and not uh
00:19:58.720 risk a uh
00:20:00.440 you know a
00:20:01.380 global depression
00:20:02.420 or a global
00:20:03.380 war have i
00:20:05.360 violated my
00:20:06.140 principles i i
00:20:08.140 don't believe so
00:20:08.840 no because i
00:20:10.060 i think that
00:20:10.720 and this is
00:20:11.360 one of the
00:20:11.720 things that i
00:20:12.160 talk about in
00:20:12.580 the book with
00:20:13.160 uh pastor
00:20:14.420 robert jeffries
00:20:15.280 of uh first
00:20:16.520 baptist church
00:20:17.060 in dallas
00:20:17.520 um there's a
00:20:19.320 there's needs
00:20:20.720 of the government
00:20:21.600 which is an
00:20:22.340 entity you know
00:20:23.160 it's not an
00:20:23.540 it's not an
00:20:23.980 individual it's
00:20:24.480 a person it
00:20:24.940 has interests
00:20:25.700 that are being
00:20:26.300 protected by
00:20:27.000 people when we
00:20:28.160 talk about the
00:20:28.720 character of the
00:20:29.500 people that are
00:20:30.000 going to be doing
00:20:30.600 that i think
00:20:31.480 it's very
00:20:31.860 important but
00:20:33.080 there are
00:20:33.400 certainly foreign
00:20:34.080 policy needs
00:20:34.900 and sovereignty
00:20:36.020 uh considerations
00:20:37.220 that are
00:20:38.700 different than
00:20:39.780 what an
00:20:40.080 individual might
00:20:40.960 have to
00:20:41.580 consider so i
00:20:42.300 think we
00:20:43.740 should be doing
00:20:44.260 what we can to
00:20:44.960 help people around
00:20:45.780 the world but we
00:20:46.460 do have to protect
00:20:47.140 our own interests
00:20:47.940 the issue is not
00:20:49.600 whether or not you
00:20:50.760 can maintain your
00:20:51.700 personal principles
00:20:52.660 or for instance as
00:20:54.160 robert jeffries said
00:20:55.040 um which was
00:20:57.360 outlandish in my
00:20:58.080 opinion he said
00:21:00.320 of trump that
00:21:02.500 because he did not
00:21:03.660 exemplify the
00:21:05.020 characteristics that
00:21:06.220 jesus spoke of on
00:21:07.260 the sermon on the
00:21:07.900 mount that made
00:21:08.580 him a good
00:21:08.900 president uh in
00:21:10.840 other words
00:21:11.240 in a way he was
00:21:14.380 saying run as far
00:21:15.080 as you can but
00:21:15.520 that's because he
00:21:16.040 was conflating the
00:21:16.920 individual of
00:21:18.800 donald trump with
00:21:20.180 the needs of the
00:21:21.100 country certainly
00:21:22.060 the country uh
00:21:23.700 um functionally
00:21:25.540 speaking needs to
00:21:27.220 have considerations
00:21:27.820 that aren't the
00:21:28.380 same as the
00:21:28.840 individual um
00:21:30.320 it's why we're
00:21:31.300 it's i think it's
00:21:32.320 why we're so um
00:21:33.780 tribal right now
00:21:35.800 we're we're
00:21:36.520 expected to agree
00:21:38.320 with everything
00:21:39.520 anyone says or
00:21:40.840 does and that's
00:21:43.040 not true i might
00:21:44.380 agree with uh
00:21:45.740 some of the
00:21:46.920 policies or what
00:21:48.060 they're doing but
00:21:49.260 i might not like
00:21:50.280 them as an
00:21:51.140 individual or i
00:21:51.920 may not agree with
00:21:52.820 this one part of
00:21:54.080 it but it's all or
00:21:55.560 nothing now
00:21:56.380 especially on the
00:21:57.600 left uh yeah
00:21:59.240 well i would say
00:22:00.000 that um i would
00:22:01.520 i honestly believe
00:22:02.720 it's just as bad
00:22:03.540 on the right i
00:22:04.240 mean i hate to
00:22:04.720 be a dirty both 0.56
00:22:05.420 sides are but
00:22:07.000 the the issue
00:22:08.740 that i the issue
00:22:09.540 that i see is
00:22:10.200 that so much of
00:22:11.820 the the ways
00:22:13.040 that because over
00:22:14.460 the years i was a
00:22:15.280 conservative i was
00:22:15.940 a tea partier i
00:22:16.780 mean i'm still a
00:22:17.320 conservative i was
00:22:17.800 a tea partier i
00:22:18.960 wrote red state
00:22:19.840 you know i've
00:22:20.500 yeah i know uh
00:22:21.360 the blaze i like
00:22:22.060 everything and i
00:22:24.060 felt the same
00:22:25.260 things everyone
00:22:25.760 else said the
00:22:26.440 attacks the
00:22:27.180 accusations of
00:22:27.980 racism the
00:22:29.160 political correctness
00:22:30.400 gone awry but
00:22:31.500 what i've seen
00:22:32.240 since i came out
00:22:33.320 against trump and
00:22:33.880 i know that you
00:22:34.780 saw this as well
00:22:35.540 in 2016 was
00:22:37.280 this other side
00:22:38.380 of that i started
00:22:39.360 getting attacked by
00:22:40.080 the right and i
00:22:40.700 saw so many
00:22:41.520 similarities with
00:22:43.180 just a different
00:22:43.960 words being used
00:22:45.340 so as an example
00:22:46.360 political correctness
00:22:47.280 is so horrible
00:22:48.060 every time somebody
00:22:49.840 uh you know says
00:22:51.140 something against
00:22:51.580 barack obama it's
00:22:52.340 racism well the
00:22:53.640 right doesn't do
00:22:54.220 that but now every
00:22:55.260 time you say
00:22:55.740 something against
00:22:56.240 dvd trump you're
00:22:56.860 a snowflake it's
00:22:57.720 the same mentality
00:22:59.540 it's the same
00:23:00.340 attitude it's the
00:23:01.600 same bad faith
00:23:02.980 and with that
00:23:04.100 kind of bad faith
00:23:05.000 we will never
00:23:05.880 bridge the gap
00:23:06.700 it's going to
00:23:07.260 lead eventually
00:23:08.300 to irreconcilable
00:23:09.640 differences at
00:23:10.880 the level of war
00:23:11.820 and we we have
00:23:13.100 to find a way to
00:23:14.080 be able to talk
00:23:14.720 to each other
00:23:15.300 right and that's
00:23:16.080 why again i don't
00:23:17.360 want to make this
00:23:17.860 about donald trump
00:23:18.700 or um i do want
00:23:20.760 to make it about
00:23:21.480 um principles and
00:23:23.780 how we look at
00:23:24.720 things if you know
00:23:26.300 right now i can't
00:23:27.820 have a conversation
00:23:29.040 with anyone
00:23:30.120 because if i'm
00:23:32.080 talking to a
00:23:33.100 diehard trump
00:23:33.880 supporter there
00:23:35.000 are things that he
00:23:35.680 does and things
00:23:36.960 that he says that
00:23:37.640 i strongly disagree
00:23:39.060 with that i'm
00:23:40.100 really i'm like i
00:23:41.120 wish he wouldn't
00:23:41.840 do trade this is
00:23:43.620 killing us the
00:23:45.120 way he lives his
00:23:46.320 life you know or
00:23:47.500 has in the past
00:23:48.500 um i don't i
00:23:50.300 don't like that at
00:23:50.960 all but if i talk
00:23:52.520 to somebody and i
00:23:54.400 say i'm uh
00:23:56.580 yeah you know i i
00:23:57.880 agree with the
00:23:58.400 president on this
00:23:59.260 well then you
00:24:00.600 agree with all the
00:24:01.740 things that he's
00:24:02.700 done or is doing
00:24:03.760 uh and it's like
00:24:05.440 no no i i'm not
00:24:08.660 a cafeteria christian
00:24:10.400 i know when it
00:24:11.640 comes to christ i
00:24:13.020 buy into christ
00:24:14.500 but other than
00:24:15.800 that i am
00:24:17.380 cafeteria i do
00:24:18.960 look for you
00:24:20.020 know this person
00:24:20.620 has this and this
00:24:21.500 person has that
00:24:22.400 and it will never
00:24:24.120 you're right about
00:24:24.900 bridging the gap
00:24:25.680 we will never
00:24:26.980 bridge a gap
00:24:27.800 as long as we
00:24:29.000 keep telling each
00:24:29.840 other you're all
00:24:31.040 good or you're all
00:24:32.280 bad well and i
00:24:34.560 think one of the
00:24:35.220 issues too uh
00:24:36.380 specifically with
00:24:37.140 christians which
00:24:37.880 was you know not
00:24:39.400 to say they're the
00:24:40.000 only group that has
00:24:41.560 an issue but coming
00:24:42.640 from that world it
00:24:44.220 was most urgent to
00:24:45.420 me to address
00:24:46.080 christians and one
00:24:48.120 of the things that i
00:24:48.880 really think is a
00:24:50.220 huge problem right
00:24:51.180 now is uh self
00:24:52.680 delusion people they
00:24:54.120 will lie to
00:24:54.720 themselves to
00:24:55.500 believe they're
00:24:56.660 doing something
00:24:57.260 right even if
00:24:59.200 they're defying their
00:25:00.060 principles because
00:25:01.420 underneath it is a
00:25:02.460 desire to fulfill
00:25:04.000 their self-interest
00:25:04.740 you know they they
00:25:05.840 want their things
00:25:07.600 that are more uh
00:25:08.660 related directly to
00:25:09.660 their lives but they
00:25:11.160 also don't want to
00:25:12.240 seem as though they're
00:25:13.040 defying their
00:25:13.580 principles when they
00:25:14.560 you know completely
00:25:15.980 backtrack on everything
00:25:16.980 that they said about
00:25:17.940 the 90s
00:25:19.000 you don't even you
00:25:19.900 don't even need to
00:25:20.740 go there uh ben you
00:25:22.100 you make a point in
00:25:23.440 the book about um
00:25:25.400 uh i've lost my
00:25:28.480 train of thought about
00:25:29.200 how you um stew we
00:25:31.800 were just talking
00:25:32.420 about it oh yeah
00:25:33.220 yeah um and hey
00:25:34.860 ben um it was
00:25:35.880 talking you you
00:25:36.700 mentioned this and i
00:25:37.440 think this is a
00:25:37.880 really profound point
00:25:39.720 which is i got it
00:25:40.600 which is now glenn's
00:25:41.900 going to say no
00:25:42.520 okay no i think this
00:25:44.820 is really profound in
00:25:45.480 that we a lot of times
00:25:46.200 we look at things we
00:25:47.120 make everyone has you
00:25:48.600 know you know
00:25:49.280 whatever politician it
00:25:50.500 is you're making
00:25:51.000 difficult decisions
00:25:51.900 sometimes there's
00:25:52.540 things you don't like
00:25:53.380 and sometimes there's
00:25:54.400 things that you do
00:25:55.040 and a lot of times
00:25:55.840 christians would 0.94
00:25:56.760 justify that um and
00:25:58.480 we do often and
00:25:59.520 saying that like well
00:26:00.500 we keep losing this
00:26:01.760 and we keep losing
00:26:02.500 this and if we don't
00:26:03.580 if we don't vote this
00:26:04.340 way we're going to
00:26:04.880 lose this and even as
00:26:05.900 high as a religious
00:26:06.860 liberty and and and
00:26:08.260 all these really
00:26:08.900 important issues that
00:26:09.680 are really important
00:26:10.400 but we don't look at
00:26:11.780 it as the as the way
00:26:12.900 that we probably should
00:26:13.920 which is not feeling
00:26:15.400 bad for ourselves for
00:26:16.340 losing something but
00:26:17.100 feeling bad for others
00:26:18.540 who are missing out
00:26:20.280 on the things you
00:26:21.720 know eternally from a
00:26:22.920 larger perspective that
00:26:24.320 we're supposed to be
00:26:25.180 representing in our
00:26:26.700 everyday lives
00:26:27.480 yeah well absolutely i
00:26:29.620 think that you know
00:26:30.720 what happens is you
00:26:32.920 look at what you think
00:26:34.140 is best people you
00:26:35.180 know judeo-christian
00:26:36.060 values and what the
00:26:37.200 country's just founded
00:26:37.880 on and you know
00:26:39.060 what's good and you
00:26:39.840 want what's good and
00:26:40.640 you want other people
00:26:41.420 to be a part of that
00:26:42.460 um as you start getting
00:26:44.580 attacked which by the
00:26:45.480 way we were you know
00:26:46.780 as christians we were
00:26:47.500 told we would be but
00:26:49.200 you start to be
00:26:49.740 attacked you know
00:26:50.520 people start to
00:26:51.060 impugn your motives it
00:26:52.360 is easy and
00:26:53.300 understandable i think
00:26:54.600 to reach a a point of
00:26:56.940 exhaustion and uh anger
00:26:59.220 and to want vengeance
00:27:00.760 and all of these other
00:27:01.860 things
00:27:02.220 totally everything we're
00:27:03.680 going through is human
00:27:04.500 nature everything oh
00:27:05.880 absolutely absolutely and
00:27:07.220 i think that's why
00:27:08.120 there's so many warnings
00:27:10.680 against those very things
00:27:12.280 is to try to instruct us
00:27:14.160 that you know you can
00:27:16.140 both have an interest in
00:27:18.740 your life and your
00:27:19.800 children and your job and
00:27:22.100 everything else but you
00:27:22.860 don't have to do it at the
00:27:24.240 expense of some of the
00:27:25.740 most important things that
00:27:26.660 were said in the bible like
00:27:27.640 loving each other loving
00:27:29.480 your enemy not returning
00:27:31.100 evil with evil i mean
00:27:32.120 these are these are
00:27:32.980 really fundamental aspects
00:27:34.600 of being a christian in
00:27:36.620 the world and operating in
00:27:37.880 the world without losing
00:27:39.560 the perspective of the
00:27:41.080 kingdom and i think that
00:27:42.840 people get so afraid that
00:27:44.780 they're going to lose their
00:27:45.860 stuff that they start to
00:27:48.200 think of it completely
00:27:49.480 backwards we should be
00:27:51.200 weeping for people who
00:27:53.280 don't join us not for
00:27:54.760 ourselves and what we lose
00:27:56.120 people that followed jesus
00:27:57.800 directly were crucified
00:27:59.320 upside down before they
00:28:00.600 died i mean they they
00:28:01.640 they suffered immensely
00:28:03.140 any one of them could
00:28:04.120 have been at that moment
00:28:05.340 just been like you know
00:28:06.640 what if i just lie and i
00:28:07.620 don't i say i don't
00:28:08.460 believe this maybe they'll
00:28:09.140 let me go and rationalize
00:28:11.680 to themselves and it's
00:28:13.100 important that i'm here so
00:28:14.180 that i can tell other
00:28:15.020 people but no they didn't
00:28:15.960 do that they stuck to their
00:28:17.380 principles all the way to
00:28:18.140 the point of death because
00:28:19.120 there are more important
00:28:20.180 things than our suffering
00:28:21.620 ben can i take you back to
00:28:24.060 uh something pretty
00:28:25.500 interesting outside of
00:28:26.320 politics because it made
00:28:27.060 me think of just parenting
00:28:28.040 issue um which is your
00:28:29.880 you grew up and you kind
00:28:32.280 of got into a little bit
00:28:33.300 of trouble became sort of
00:28:34.900 a troubled youth as they
00:28:36.860 say can i just i reject
00:28:38.100 your premise that i grew
00:28:39.000 up
00:28:39.240 uh and and your parents
00:28:42.640 dealt with i mean because
00:28:44.580 you got into drugs and
00:28:45.900 everything your parents
00:28:47.100 dealt with this in a
00:28:47.840 really interesting way and
00:28:49.480 you kind of looked at that
00:28:50.480 as seemingly like the
00:28:51.660 foundation for the book i'm
00:28:53.140 curious as to can you
00:28:54.040 explain that story and
00:28:55.280 and what they did because
00:28:56.540 i i i as you as you were
00:28:58.720 explaining it it seems
00:28:59.860 really noble and then part
00:29:01.100 of me thought well i don't
00:29:02.520 know i mean it's it's
00:29:03.320 scary i think as a parent
00:29:04.420 to go through something
00:29:05.300 like that and absolutely
00:29:07.280 and look i have four kids
00:29:08.640 so i you know at this
00:29:09.760 point i'm i'm waiting for
00:29:11.240 the universe to enact some
00:29:13.420 revenge on me oh your
00:29:14.540 your mother's words i hope
00:29:16.300 you have a child just like
00:29:17.680 you they will come true
00:29:19.340 and uh but so yeah i i was
00:29:24.740 one of three kids i was the
00:29:25.800 youngest and when we moved
00:29:27.420 um my brother went in the
00:29:29.300 marine corps caleb how he's
00:29:30.400 also does what what we do
00:29:32.340 and uh my sister went to
00:29:34.440 college so i was suddenly an
00:29:35.460 only child in another town
00:29:36.400 i did what i think a lot of
00:29:38.620 teenagers might do in that
00:29:39.820 situation which is i found a
00:29:40.900 way to adapt and it turns out
00:29:42.240 if you smoke pot and do other
00:29:45.220 drugs and drink and basically
00:29:46.940 rebel you can make a lot of
00:29:48.480 friends um at some point
00:29:50.400 that culminated with you know
00:29:53.180 i don't know statute of
00:29:53.860 limitations here but let's
00:29:54.700 just say i was doing a lot
00:29:55.500 of illegal things and um i
00:29:57.940 got arrested for possession
00:30:00.480 and uh paraphernalia things of
00:30:02.200 that nature my dad came they
00:30:04.280 bailed me out and i was waiting
00:30:07.160 to hear all of the horrible
00:30:08.180 things that were going to have
00:30:09.760 to happen while i waited to
00:30:11.120 find out what was going to
00:30:12.240 ultimately be my fate and he
00:30:15.080 said he just wanted me to
00:30:15.840 bring my friends over and that
00:30:18.100 we could talk about anything
00:30:19.020 and it didn't have to be
00:30:21.600 religious he was happy to talk
00:30:22.820 about religion but the only
00:30:24.040 rule was we had to bring
00:30:25.420 something to talk about i talked
00:30:27.420 my friends into coming with me
00:30:28.640 you know none of them wanted
00:30:29.320 to come but within a few weeks
00:30:32.820 it was like they couldn't wait
00:30:35.040 and it grew from five to about
00:30:36.660 fifteen or twenty no you know
00:30:38.680 they didn't treat me like i was
00:30:39.880 more special or anything they
00:30:41.420 treated everyone like they were
00:30:42.820 smart and welcome and these were
00:30:44.520 kids that my parents had every
00:30:46.840 reason to believe were correcting
00:30:48.420 me and they brought them into
00:30:50.460 their home and some of them
00:30:51.840 lived with us for a while
00:30:53.180 because they had gotten kicked
00:30:55.180 out of their own homes and so
00:30:57.400 looking back as an adult and my
00:30:59.760 parents unwillingness to kick me
00:31:01.360 out even as bad as everything got
00:31:03.100 yeah it was tough for them they
00:31:05.880 suffered through it though because
00:31:06.980 they had to show me unconditional
00:31:08.420 love and they did
00:31:09.560 caleb i mean not caleb uh ben thank
00:31:14.560 you so much
00:31:15.200 this is the best of the glenbeck
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00:31:38.100 welcome to jason buttrill who is uh
00:31:40.620 our chief researcher here on the
00:31:42.700 glenbeck program uh former military
00:31:45.080 intelligence and a guy i depend on
00:31:47.080 an awful lot when we're looking into
00:31:48.860 uh things like elon omar and uh and
00:31:53.680 things where we have to where where
00:31:55.220 there's where you need somebody who
00:31:57.320 has done intel before to look in and
00:32:00.180 really try to dig down and see what's
00:32:02.500 going on one of the things that we've
00:32:04.040 followed for a long time is russia and
00:32:07.680 their cozy relationship uh with the
00:32:10.560 clintons especially when it came to 0.83
00:32:12.900 gazprom and we've done a lot of uh
00:32:15.140 episodes on gazprom and and why wasn't
00:32:18.480 clinton investigated and what did the
00:32:20.960 fbi actually had they had a literally a
00:32:24.860 mountain of evidence uh showing that
00:32:28.500 there is corruption in the united
00:32:30.260 states and yet it was never really
00:32:32.040 pursued i saw a story about a friend
00:32:35.820 of mine patrick byrne who is the ceo of
00:32:39.640 overstock this guy's a straight ahead
00:32:43.300 libertarian he doesn't pull any punches
00:32:45.940 he's not a political guy does not get
00:32:48.740 involved in you know republican and
00:32:51.440 democrat i think probably hates both
00:32:53.740 sides or you know just is you know uh
00:32:57.240 as antipathy for both sides uh equal and
00:33:01.100 i saw this story come out that that he
00:33:03.280 somehow or another has evidence that is
00:33:06.620 now with the fbi because he was involved
00:33:11.040 with the gazprom uh investigation with the
00:33:16.120 fbi and also with the trump
00:33:19.700 investigation of russia and for the life
00:33:23.040 of me as i'm reading it i i couldn't make
00:33:24.980 heads or tails of it i sent it to
00:33:27.160 jason i said could you look into this and
00:33:28.920 i i sent you several different stories
00:33:31.180 that all kind of have to piece together
00:33:32.920 can you tell me what's what this story
00:33:35.680 is i think the majority of the people
00:33:38.440 probably let this story slip by because
00:33:40.380 you're thinking this is the overstock
00:33:42.040 ceo so why would he know anything about
00:33:44.480 this yeah and pretty much everyone just
00:33:45.660 said forget it that interview where he
00:33:47.640 mentioned that it was on fox business i
00:33:49.640 believe and the the the uh accusations
00:33:53.580 were explosive they really were i mean he
00:33:55.460 was talking about you know people you know
00:33:57.380 committing political espionage and it was at
00:33:59.440 the highest levels of the fbi um and he
00:34:03.460 said that it was the information was about
00:34:05.040 to come out but he said that he was going to
00:34:07.860 come out and release some of this information
00:34:09.480 to a select few just to kind of get people on
00:34:12.520 the right track so they'll kind of like push
00:34:14.140 the government you know if some of this
00:34:15.660 you know information came out well right
00:34:18.100 after he made these claims he pretty much went
00:34:21.420 radio silent on it and the claims like you said
00:34:24.020 they said he's he claimed that he was at the
00:34:25.920 very center of the the beginnings of the
00:34:28.340 russia probe and the clinton investigation now
00:34:31.060 he didn't go into any of the uh inside you
00:34:34.020 know information about the clinton information
00:34:35.660 so we're kind of left to guess on that one
00:34:37.300 and by and large we were left to guess on the
00:34:39.540 russia probe stuff but we did some digging
00:34:42.060 around now he did an interview that same
00:34:44.380 day this was on august the 12th he didn't
00:34:47.300 interview that same day it was not on camera it
00:34:49.880 was just a sit-down interview with an
00:34:51.180 investigative journalist and he started
00:34:53.160 talking about how he got into a i guess a
00:34:56.660 relationship uh with a do you remember the
00:35:00.300 maria butina she was the russian that was
00:35:03.700 supposedly a spy that had gotten in with the
00:35:07.060 nra and everybody else right they were
00:35:09.420 trying there was really something fishy
00:35:11.140 about the whole thing we talked about it i
00:35:13.980 believe on on this show that i i was like
00:35:16.400 this is insane that you're calling this woman
00:35:18.460 a russian spy i mean has tradecraft gotten
00:35:21.060 that bad even since i got out of the
00:35:23.080 intelligence community because if it has i
00:35:24.900 mean we have nothing to fear from the
00:35:26.360 russians at all she was very public right a
00:35:28.280 very public figure she was every one to say
00:35:30.500 the least yeah she was a very public figure in
00:35:33.100 russia the russians hated her because they
00:35:35.140 were leery of her because she was all about
00:35:36.780 i i guess libertarianism is a thing over in
00:35:39.980 russia who knew um kind of kind of not the
00:35:42.840 way we would understand it but on some things
00:35:45.640 kind of gun rights yeah religious liberty yeah
00:35:48.400 um that's what she was a spokesman for and 0.99
00:35:50.360 she would attend conferences all that that
00:35:52.260 brought her over here to the states and she 0.98
00:35:54.740 wanted to reach out to libertarian minded
00:35:56.540 people on the issues that she believed in so
00:35:59.420 that she could like make a link up between the
00:36:01.060 people in russia and people over here to say
00:36:02.320 hey look you know we're not all like crazies
00:36:04.080 like putin you know we can find some common
00:36:06.200 ground we have some things in common so she
00:36:08.120 reaches out to uh patrick byrne in two in
00:36:11.280 2015 and they got into a little relationship now
00:36:14.200 patrick he has a security clearance for some
00:36:16.680 work he did with the council informed relations
00:36:18.200 and he was like hey there's this russian you
00:36:20.680 know chick reaching out to me she's wanting 0.94
00:36:22.640 me to go to russia and meet up with some
00:36:24.100 russian officials this freaks me out so he
00:36:26.180 tells the fbi now now think of this i want
00:36:28.500 you to know this is i like patrick i trust
00:36:31.200 patrick this is the kind of guy he is he's
00:36:34.700 approached by somebody and she's approaching
00:36:37.520 him in a way romantically isn't she a little
00:36:40.140 flirtatious yeah okay uh and he just is like
00:36:43.600 well i don't know she's from russia she's i'm
00:36:46.820 gonna check he values his security clearance and
00:36:50.080 so he calls the fbi to say look do you have
00:36:53.680 anything on her she she is talking to me she seems
00:36:58.840 to be interested in me uh and she wants me to go
00:37:01.980 over to russia and they say what they say go
00:37:05.540 right ahead no issues here whatsoever they say
00:37:08.400 quote this is a direct quote she's been looked
00:37:11.180 into and she is quote fine so go off and do
00:37:15.280 whatever you want your security clearances is
00:37:17.000 not in jeopardy no big deal no harm no foul okay
00:37:20.100 so he does so he continues and the relationship
00:37:23.400 got intimate right from the get-go and he was
00:37:27.140 still a straight shooter about it he was still
00:37:29.600 leery of her uh he continued to report to the fbi even
00:37:33.400 though they told him not to uh and he especially
00:37:36.380 started reporting when she started making comments
00:37:38.440 like you know uh i really want to get into you know
00:37:41.140 close relationships with uh certain candidates uh marco
00:37:44.680 rubio was was mentioned hillary clinton was also
00:37:47.780 mentioned basically anyone that they thought might
00:37:49.720 have power in the next few years she was trying to get 1.00
00:37:52.980 some kind of relationship with right speak to them and
00:37:55.080 so he is having a relationship but he's you know i think
00:37:58.840 like any any decent human being that's an american
00:38:02.100 citizen is like okay i'm not sure i i mean it seems
00:38:07.060 weird but it seems okay as well are you sure so he calls the fbi
00:38:11.780 several times yes and says there she's saying these things to me
00:38:16.640 are you sure she's okay and not only that she's telling me she's
00:38:20.740 meeting with listen this is just an example uh
00:38:23.940 i aid for hillary clinton on this day at this place at this time
00:38:27.080 are you guys interested in that nothing fbi was not interested
00:38:30.660 yeah yeah but she's meeting with uh this person who's the head of this person
00:38:34.520 at this time at this hotel they didn't care they did not care so he was like
00:38:38.660 whatever so he continued his relationship
00:38:40.320 eventually it dies down we're getting close to the actual presidential election
00:38:45.060 now uh i didn't really say how close but
00:38:47.700 i'm assuming within months of the actual election
00:38:49.460 then the fbi calls him he's not in a relationship with her anymore he hardly
00:38:53.880 talks to her fbi contacts him and says now we want you to
00:38:58.340 re-up that relationship you know remember that girl you tell you
00:39:01.320 yeah well go ahead and rekindle that relationship and do what you were doing
00:39:04.780 before let us know what what she was doing 1.00
00:39:06.420 so he's a straight shooter he's absolutely i'll do it so he does it helps
00:39:10.960 the fbi but this time he says guys um i know that
00:39:14.680 i'm not telling you anything you already know
00:39:16.560 but she's not a spy she's not the next coming of anna chapman
00:39:20.540 she is just literally what she says now i know all the people she's talking to
00:39:25.120 this is what she is so this is because he got to know her
00:39:28.280 because they said get to know her yeah it's fine there's nothing wrong so he
00:39:33.560 did and because he still had the questions
00:39:36.640 in his head he's doing his own research with her and
00:39:40.500 he's meeting the people she's saying over in russia and he's
00:39:45.200 smart enough to figure out is this uh is this a spy situation is this an
00:39:50.720 infiltration of america he knows it's not so when they call
00:39:55.020 him back he now is at a place where he's like no
00:39:58.460 i've i yeah i had the relationship she's not a spy
00:40:02.520 yeah right exactly okay but the feds wanted to paint her as one anyway 1.00
00:40:07.140 so they for reasons we can get to in a minute
00:40:10.360 they paint her as a actual like clandestine like honeypot spy
00:40:15.360 that's what they paint her as they want to charge her with espionage 0.79
00:40:18.520 and then i'm i don't want to put words or thoughts into his mind or mouth but i
00:40:22.620 mean he's got to be thinking what are you doing this is i gave you exculpatory
00:40:26.400 evidence witness testimony this is not what she's all about and 0.95
00:40:30.040 i've been a straight shooter here you know i he's been yeah and for some
00:40:33.740 reason you didn't have a problem when she was meeting with hillary
00:40:36.200 clinton but now for some reason you're very
00:40:41.140 interested in her when she's involved with the nra and
00:40:45.260 she's involved with uh donald trump and that's where the media frenzy hit
00:40:49.700 they they showed pictures of her at the national prayer breakfast at the nra
00:40:53.140 convention they picked picked it up ran with it now
00:40:56.320 this exculpatory evidence that he gave them never made it to court
00:40:59.760 it never made it and butina's lawyers are furious
00:41:02.920 they just recently a few weeks ago sent a letter saying
00:41:05.760 what the heck is going on how could we requested by law you have to put this in
00:41:10.400 the exculpatory evidence into into the record they never did that is just
00:41:15.340 missing it was never there now he said something interesting interesting um in
00:41:19.800 this one interview that he gave i think it was to sarah carter
00:41:22.660 um and he said um bob bar is a is a submarine
00:41:33.200 and he's headed for the deep state ship right now and he's the only guy that is
00:41:42.360 going to do anything about it and right now he's headed for a collision course
00:41:46.620 and he's going to hit that ship and sink the deep state ship he says
00:41:51.320 bob bar is our our greatest hope on this
00:41:55.200 because of what he says the fbi is doing apparently now we'll get into that
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00:42:32.160 what do we think that bob bar is doing with this information and is is patrick
00:42:39.080 coming out patrick wrote to me this morning and he said you know i i i can't
00:42:43.500 talk about it uh any more than i already have
00:42:45.980 uh but uh i i will call you as soon as i
00:42:51.300 uh have something like more to say or something like that
00:42:55.540 which is interesting to me i wonder if patrick is working with the fbi
00:43:02.840 or leaking some of this self stuff out to get the fbi to move
00:43:08.660 that would be that that would be my guess mine too and it's it's interesting that
00:43:12.800 he didn't comment further so i'm wondering if someone he was made to
00:43:16.500 stop commenting pure speculation but it's interesting to come out be made to
00:43:20.900 stop talking can you i mean i guess they could uh they could ask you but they
00:43:24.760 can't make you yeah stop talking i i don't i don't know if he signed what he
00:43:29.160 signed when he agreed to work with them i don't even know how that works i don't
00:43:32.380 either but um but i i think it sounded very voluntary his involvement i i think
00:43:38.020 that we should uh if this sounds very credible this sounds very credible it's
00:43:42.360 been verified on a few levels some uh unnamed sources and the doj and fbi
00:43:48.100 have not denied this uh they have just said i know patrick he's not a guy he
00:43:52.820 will he's not a guy to make this up he has nothing that he has nothing to gain
00:43:57.020 and everything to lose so as this sounds so credible and to go back to your
00:44:01.180 question about what is bar doing he also said he was involved with the
00:44:04.720 clinton uh investigation i don't know how that even happened but if he was
00:44:09.320 involved with the russia probe and the clinton investigation well we do know that
00:44:13.020 uh the doj under bar is it sounds like they're looking into the uranium one uh and
00:44:19.560 the clinton foundation scandals how all that went went went you know connected
00:44:23.420 with each other um we know last year uh do you remember that informant that the
00:44:27.820 fbi had that basically brain cancer yeah that died of brain cancer he um he said uh a few
00:44:34.160 months ago i guess it was march of last year he was tired of being you know thrown
00:44:38.360 under the bus by democrats and they said look this is ridiculous that you guys are
00:44:41.140 he was a democrat uh was he i think he was but he he was furious he was irate because
00:44:46.920 it was like i i gave up a ton of my life to this investigation now i'm in hiding um
00:44:52.420 they they i think they leaked his name he was even more furious about that because he
00:44:56.700 wanted to be completely anonymous but he said um but what he did leak was he said well the
00:45:02.500 fbi has actually come back to me they've come back to me they've asked me more
00:45:06.260 questions and they focus specifically on the clinton foundation payments that were
00:45:10.540 received by russians during that entire scandal and what the clintons did or what i'm
00:45:15.460 sorry what the what the uh congress did is they called him and then they made fun of him and said
00:45:21.720 well you don't remember because you got a brain tumor right right and and he was furious about that
00:45:28.060 how dare you you the people that we trusted with the ada thing yeah you're the ones who say you look
00:45:33.180 after the most vulnerable i have a brain tumor medical condition and it's it's not causing me to
00:45:39.500 forget stuff and you're accusing me of this right i mean he had every reason to be upset
00:45:45.600 so we we pray for the good guys in our justice department uh and if that's bob bar who i i think
00:45:52.880 it is do you think bob bar is a good guy uh yeah i think so yeah i've reason whoever has whoever is
00:45:59.800 trying to clean things up uh and set the record straight on all of this stuff we pray for you and
00:46:07.080 we salute you for your your duty and your service to your nation the best of the glenbeck program
00:46:19.640 welcome to the uh program uh kevin ryan kevin is uh
00:46:36.800 one of our writers uh on uh the glenbeck program glenbeck.com the blaze uh and i i i think we should
00:46:46.620 offer him combat pay for this but we sent him out to iowa and you were with the candidates over the
00:46:54.660 weekend how many times did you see these guys so we saw 11 candidates um over the course yeah over the
00:47:01.580 course of four days um it's all the front runners um four times saw uh kamala harris five times oh my
00:47:09.640 god yeah and in a ton of different settings so they're they're there for the iowa state fair
00:47:14.920 but they're moving around quite a bit and um i i think i went with my dad he he oh wow he came with
00:47:22.180 me you met my dad yeah very irish um and so it was kind of he was sort of taking in the whole scene
00:47:28.060 in this uh this way of puzzlement really
00:47:31.940 so uh we're looking forward to your reports are going to be on glenbeck.com he's got a lot of
00:47:39.620 behind the scenes stories but you were there when biden said hey poor kids are just as good as white kids
00:47:48.020 that's right yeah um justice town i forget what his wording but it was a very sloppy either or
00:47:53.980 and um yeah that's one way of putting it yeah uh he he was what from the moment he walked in the
00:48:01.440 room he was pretty sleepy like he seemed sleepy like he was tired and um he saw multiple times was
00:48:07.920 that a recurring situation with him or was it just that one speech just that one speech okay yeah so
00:48:13.620 here he is here's what he said in that speech and the other thing we should do is we should challenge
00:48:18.860 these students we should challenge students in these schools to have advanced placement programs in
00:48:23.580 these schools we have this notion that somehow if you're poor you cannot do it poor kids are just
00:48:30.000 as bright and just as talented as white kids wealthy kids i love the one person who claps it wasn't you
00:48:35.780 was it oh yeah no because there's that one person's like yeah that's right kids aren't white kids
00:48:43.440 and the audience in general was receptive of it because how many people how many people were in
00:48:50.320 the room um it was a small room it was actually at a plumbers union that the event was held i'd say
00:48:56.260 there were about 140 people there all with plumbers crack it's yeah all right for sure okay including
00:49:01.980 the media uh yeah wait 140 people what's the breakdown between actual people and media just
00:49:08.380 they're covering it they're probably 60 60 media there 60 media out of 140 people at the event
00:49:14.420 wow that's incredible wow and that story was not everywhere i mean that was picked up by the blaze
00:49:19.320 i know um i think fox news might have picked it up but it wasn't widely reported that he messed up like
00:49:24.300 that not not at all i think if uh someone from fox news hadn't been there it would not have gotten
00:49:29.700 reported at all um because it sort of slowly trickled into a story where it would have been a firestorm
00:49:38.120 they would have been reporting live yeah it was donald trump they would have gone live with that
00:49:44.280 for sure we're joining him already in progress where he just said this that's what they would
00:49:49.780 have done uh but they didn't do it here so you said the crowd didn't have a problem with that
00:49:55.100 no and he he adjusted to it pretty quickly yeah yes he realized he did it he realized he did it
00:50:01.080 he was very aware of what he just said um what was your give me uh because you got to see 11
00:50:07.160 candidates there's 20 25 26 in the field now uh so almost half the candidates in four days
00:50:13.580 many of them multiple times we get this impression when we're watching you know a debate of what these
00:50:21.060 candidates are like what are they like in the room who works the room really well kamal harris
00:50:25.100 that's the one i walked away with the most saw her five times and part because she just like the 1.00
00:50:31.540 grateful she hustles yeah she's like the grateful dead all right this is my fifth time seeing you
00:50:37.980 after seeing these these candidates this many times you become the grateful to be dead yeah if you can
00:50:43.960 just pull it you're begging for it that's so she's she's the most would you say she just knows how to 1.00
00:50:49.520 work a room or she's the most authentic definitely not the most authentic um the opposite almost like
00:50:56.720 she knows how to read a room so well she knows what to say she also hustles so much and she needs
00:51:03.380 that job she has that that fire in her eyes biden's like yeah i'll probably get this you know he's boy
00:51:11.040 that's what happened to clinton exactly clinton lost that's interesting clinton in 08 had the same
00:51:17.600 attitude uh that she was just going to stroll in it was her turn and obama took it from her 0.99
00:51:23.240 yeah that's that's interesting so kamala works the room well biden a little tired occasionally 1.00
00:51:29.580 uh but also does he seem fully there because yeah did you see he's he seems like and i've never felt
00:51:35.940 this way about him until the last maybe year or so where he seems like he's kind of slipping a bit
00:51:43.020 he he has the gravitas that you expect from a president and you don't really see it in many people
00:51:50.960 you know that it's that suction energy yeah as soon as he walks in the room everybody moves toward
00:51:56.340 him hmm uh kamala harris has it even more so she knows i was we were seeing uh yang at a winery
00:52:06.080 one time but you might want to rephrase that didn't you yeah
00:52:10.300 investigative journalism were you just drinking is that what was happening okay so you saw yang he's
00:52:24.820 at uh andrew yang at a winery and uh kamala harris had just spoken and she uh she she waited until he
00:52:32.160 started speaking she was sitting in the front row and right after he began talking she got up and
00:52:37.600 walked out of the room and half the media went with her and half of the room went with her like 0.81
00:52:42.740 it was a definite call as ice man kamala harris would i mean she's surgical yeah she is yeah 0.96
00:52:49.660 she'll slit your throat she does not care and you saw that with biden right i mean you know that was
00:52:54.740 on the debate stage i mean that's an amazing move right like you you're walking out in the middle of
00:52:59.720 the guy's speech there's a decorum you don't do that right no kamala doesn't care she doesn't and 1.00
00:53:04.680 she stayed outside of the building too she kept walking around there's these huge glass windows
00:53:08.740 and she's doing this to andrew yang imagine what she's gonna do to biden oh my gosh oh my gosh so 0.70
00:53:16.120 how how was uh bernie bernie was interesting the first time i saw bernie was yes at a mexican disco
00:53:25.460 a mexican disco yeah it was this little room with a tiny bar and we'd been there two nights before to
00:53:36.740 see castro and when we saw castro there was actually a bouncy castle inside that's such a weird way to
00:53:45.120 elect a leader it was very strange yeah and it was like but i didn't see um bernie was captivating
00:53:52.640 there people were drawn to him and he was really the only one i saw who drew protesters so like at
00:54:00.120 the iowa state fair there were a lot of people with um you know trump signs and a lot of maga hats
00:54:07.420 and really yes and there was like a small there were a lot of people there but i'd say misplaced
00:54:13.040 energy i think yeah bernie's he's sinking himself he doesn't need any help himself and you kind of want
00:54:18.920 him to be the candidate against donald trump he'd be the easiest to beat you think so i do bernie i
00:54:25.920 don't know i don't know i mean you put him up you can't see how anyone could elect him but i mean
00:54:30.620 elizabeth warren is really custom made for trump i feel like that how did she do she did very well
00:54:35.820 she did better than biden did surprisingly and well the new poll shows are down from biden one point
00:54:42.440 point yeah that she really surprised me uh my dad's reaction to elizabeth warren and he he hadn't
00:54:49.020 been really keeping up with the candidates at all and he just knew her name but we walked into it was
00:54:54.260 a fundraiser that we walked into so very friendly crowd packed room it was actually the ballroom where
00:55:00.780 buddy holly played his last show oh wow um so my dad turned to me and he was like what's wrong with
00:55:07.820 this lady i don't like her at all she does not come off as like she's not she doesn't she comes 1.00
00:55:16.420 yeah there's a very similar there's a lot of similarities to hillary hillary i mean that's
00:55:20.200 why i was so i'm so surprised democrats are running in this direction there's so many they want a woman
00:55:24.960 and then the marxist want a marxist but i mean you have kamala harris right who's a much better package
00:55:31.460 for a candidate than i think she is who's a she's a little bit more sensible on certain things like 0.98
00:55:36.360 israel and right i think she is seen as the clintons you know what did you really get with bill
00:55:43.080 clinton you got a guy who stood up and said the arab big government is over and actually moved in that
00:55:49.560 direction so they kind of the the real the ideologues on the left yeah they don't like the politic
00:55:57.340 the typical democratic politician and while kamala harris is not that person uh she's closer to
00:56:04.700 she's closer to it than bernie or right where warren you have no doubt warren's gonna get in
00:56:10.620 and she's gonna do these things or she's gonna try as you pointed out she's woodrow wilson she'll get 1.00
00:56:15.740 it done if she can uh and that's what they i think that's what they want anybody else uh surprise you
00:56:22.300 any other uh interesting lower tier candidates you saw um yang was interesting uh at that same event
00:56:29.360 i just mentioned we jay insley was there and there was a moment where they kind of blended in with
00:56:34.400 the crowd after and they were talking everybody kamala harris went through with like a huge entourage
00:56:39.440 of media and people wanting selfies and jay insley was there and and i turned my dad and he was offering
00:56:45.760 selfies exactly yeah that's exactly what it was i i said hey dad will you take a picture of him and he's
00:56:51.800 like which one he didn't know jay insley had none of that energy none of that suction energy
00:56:58.820 so it's like uh and yang was interesting because he was just hanging out he yeah he actually seems
00:57:05.220 like a normal normal guy i actually kind of like him yeah definitely yeah he like well he seems like
00:57:11.600 the guy you could hang with and have a conversation with and i've never heard him like use the typical
00:57:16.320 democratic messaging of that side is racist those people don't like these policies because they want
00:57:20.820 to hurt poor people he doesn't talk like that he does he disagrees with conservatives but i've never
00:57:25.700 seen him be anything other than respectful to them who do you think was the most authentic um probably
00:57:32.100 yang yeah bennett was interesting too but i think yang was was the most interesting and i think bernie
00:57:38.680 was authentic in that he believes what he's saying yes um so and i am i admire that um but he's a he
00:57:47.880 says a lot of things that aren't true he's authentic but he lies a lot which is weird it's a weird
00:57:51.920 combination i think it's actually his combination though he's an authentic liar because he says a lot
00:57:56.820 of things that just flat out are not true about about the policies but he authentically believes that
00:58:02.020 i think they're better for america and that he he really he's a true believer in socialism he's not
00:58:09.180 one of these people who's you know i think there's an element of harris and this might be
00:58:12.460 what you're talking about there's an element of harris that is embracing these far left policies
00:58:18.060 because she thinks it's the way to win the primary that's not that's not warren or sanders
00:58:22.640 you know warren and sanders are believers true believers along with you know a few of the other
00:58:28.220 you know lower tier candidates but those two are like anyway they're second and third in the field
00:58:33.440 and they are legit true believer socialists and that is a that's a dramatic thing for this country
00:58:39.980 because one of they've already talked about having an alliance on the debate stage like let's not
00:58:44.820 attack each other until it gets further down the road um you know one of them drops out the other
00:58:50.840 one is the front runner yeah do you think the bernie people will go to warren i'm not sure who they'll
00:58:57.280 go to um they could just as easily go to trump you know that's yeah the bernie thing is weird like
00:59:04.480 with that because he uh there's a lot of bernie energy that it's bernie exclusive yeah there's a lot of
00:59:09.220 there's a lot of cult of personality with bernie and i think some of those people yeah who voted
00:59:13.180 for bernie in the primary dropped out and didn't vote for anybody in general some of them did vote
00:59:17.980 for trump yeah and some of them did some vote for trump thank you so much absolutely appreciate it
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