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Bill O'Reilly joins us to talk about the Chinese virus, Elizabeth Warren's brave decision not to run for president, and a reverend who was told he was not allowed to hold church because of the virus.
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Welcome to the podcast. Hope your quarantine is going well. Today on the program, we talk about
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the Profiles in Courage, Elizabeth Warren. Just an incredible, incredibly brave moment as she
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tries to figure out what she should do now that she's no longer running for president,
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dealing with the Chinese virus controversy. We get into that as well. Pat Gray joins us.
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We have Bill O'Reilly, who is on for the hour to tell us the best things and the worst things about
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the media coverage going on, and how is this going to affect the re-election of Donald Trump.
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And we talked to a reverend who was told he was not allowed to hold church because of coronavirus.
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He's going to wind up doing it anyway. We'll talk to him about his reasoning there as well.
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And make sure to check out Stew Does America today. We are going into...
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Stew Does the Chinese Chernobyl. And showing all the things that went on with that situation,
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not pretty. Get into that. Go over and subscribe. Search for Stew Does America. And click the
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subscribe button. We'd all feel so much better. And you'd probably cure someone from something.
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You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck Program.
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It's Friday, so I asked Pat to join us a little early, because I just got a few things that...
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Pat, I can't take it anymore. I just... I can't take it anymore. I can't take...
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I can't... I can't... I just can't... I watch the news, and it's like not... Do these people
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have lives at all? Do they... I mean, I don't get it. What's happening?
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I mean, you could be talking about so many different things. What specifically are you
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Well, I think they have a point on the China virus thing.
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I do. I do. I think that's really... I mean... Well, I didn't when he was just calling it
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the China virus, because he hadn't been calling it the China virus. He's only calling it the
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China virus because he knows it pisses them off. That's why.
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Right? Okay. That... And I think because China's trying to blame us for it, and he resents
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that a lot. Correct. And so do I. Correct. Resents it. So do I. Yes, so do I. This is China
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propaganda. However, I mean, I thought yesterday... Did you see the press conference yesterday
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when he walked out? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, usually the president will have...
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When he walks out, and I did think it was a little over the top when he walked out to...
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He walked out to this music. Do we have that from the press conference?
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You know, to have the Marine band play this as he walks out, I thought...
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It's way over the top for him to do. And then when he went out, it is Chinese, if you
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please. I thought, that's beneath the president. It's just beneath the president to do.
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Well, he's a businessman. So I think that makes it okay. He's a businessman.
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Well, no. The Asian lobby is pretty powerful. I mean, they'll go after his businesses.
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You know? And I thought, boy, he doesn't care. He just doesn't care to have that played behind
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him when he walked out. So I was for him, you know, because I thought he was making a
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point. And then when he did that, I was like, that's just racist. You know what I mean?
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He does seem a little over the top. Yeah. I mean, I get the point that he's making because
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he really, for weeks, was calling it like the coronavirus. And then until they started
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complaining about it, then he's now crossing it off on his speeches and writing in the word
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Chinese. Seriously. I have no problem calling it the COVID-19, blah, blah, blah. But this
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is crazy. This is Chinese propaganda. This is what they're trying to do. And our press
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is picking right up on it. So it's not anti-China. I don't have a problem with Chinese people, with
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people who are Asian. I have no problem with that. No problem. What's really, really disturbing
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is how we are being forced to change this when MERS is Middle Eastern respiratory.
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Okay. That's what MERS is. The swine flu. How do you think pigs feel about that? The Spanish
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flu. We've always done this. Always done this. West Nile virus. That's how you identify these
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things. This is Chinese propaganda. And our president is just standing up against the press
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because the press is doing the job of the Chinese Communist Party. It's craziness. It's craziness.
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So I, for one, I mean, I really kind of want, I want to go overboard and make a real, I mean,
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did you hear what he walked out on yesterday? It was, it was real. I thought this was just
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China. I thought, especially they didn't even have the right instruments. They were playing it on
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kettles and the back of White House pots. And I thought this is too far, but stop. Uh, but I, I,
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I mean, part of me just wants to just rub it in their face because I'm so sick of it, man. I am so
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sick of it. It has nothing to do with race, has nothing to do with China, has everything to do with
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communist disinformation. Yeah. And it would be one thing too, if the media was approaching it like
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this, Hey, when, when this all started, we were all calling it Wuhan flu or Wuhan virus. That was the
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name we all had. But now, you know, look, they've given it an official name and we think it's the
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appropriate thing to call it. Like, I would still say we need to make sure we point out what the
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Chinese government has done because it's a really crucial part of the story. However, like it would
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at least be an understandable line of thinking. Instead, what they're saying is completely denying
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that they ever said it and not even acknowledging it. Right. And then just coming out and saying it's
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automatically and obviously racist for anyone to use it at any time. And denying all reality of naming
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every other bad disease we've had from German measles on. I have to tell you, this is not
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about racism at all. This is about reality. This is all about reality. First of all, what
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kind of sweet ass world do you live in where this is your biggest problem? I mean, the media
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think of their life. This is what they're talking about. There, there, there's a report out
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today. Let me look it up. There's a report out today that says some incredible, incredible
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number here. Let me look. No, no, no, no, no. Okay. Bank of America says recession is already
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here. There's a, there's a story. I don't know where it is right now that a large percentage
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of our small businesses will be out of business in 45 days. And we're arguing about that. Seriously,
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this is your biggest problem. It just shows the media is so far out of touch. I'm telling
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you, this is, this is the beginning of the end for them. They, they've already discredited
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themselves so much, but all of these politicians did well, except for Elizabeth Warren. She
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did something very brave. I don't know if you guys know this, but she was very, very
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brave. Do we, in fact, do we have the profiles of courage music? Could we please? Cause this
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was, you know, sometimes I think of Elizabeth Warren and I think to myself, it is, it is,
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it's about damn time that we have a native American who steps to the plate and leads the
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way. I mean, this was her people's home long before we came. Yesterday, Elizabeth Warren,
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she did something that not a lot of people are willing to do. She did something that, oh
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yeah, you can mock it. You can make fun of it all you want. You could stand around and
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not say anything about it, but this proud native American that sometimes is caught off
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the side of the highway with just a tear rolling down her cheek, looking at the litter. What
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has happened? What has happened to my country? And dare I say it? Not only what, but how?
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No. Yes. This proud native American who's never used another race to further herself or her
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career. No, no, no. Yesterday she said enough, enough. So she took to Twitter after Trump was
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on that Twitter machine explaining why he signed the defense protection act, which should increase
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the production of medical equipment needed to combat the outbreak. But, oh no, she didn't
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concentrate on that. No, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ventilators, breathing machines, whatever.
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Can we talk about the real problem? Because when he took to Twitter, he said, I only signed
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the defense protection act to combat the Chinese virus, China, and we should invoke it in the worst
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case scenario in the future. Hopefully there will be no need, but we're all in this together.
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No, that's when this proud native American, first American, if I may, stood up or sat down,
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whatever. She got on Twitter. She said, President Trump, are your eyes stitched shut? Hospitals
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need test kits, ventilators, and other medical supplies. That's why the DPA exists. Stop dragging
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your feet and burying your head and start helping hospitals that are about to be slammed by this
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pandemic. But she blurred out the word Chinese. Yes, that's what she did. She blurred the word
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Chinese out of her, quote, tweet of Trump. When someone like Elizabeth Warren stands against
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all odds. In the face of the crashing waters. She stands there. They're on the point. They're at
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the peak, looking down at all of us. Says, I'm not afraid. I'm going to blur the word Chinese.
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And she puts it all into perspective. It's not about some virus. It's not about some ventilators.
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It's really about racism. And I think it's, I think it's high time, America, that we all look deep
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inside of ourselves. Yeah, that white part of you. And say, what can we learn from this proud
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Native American? Elizabeth Warren. I think we can learn an awful lot. What can we do? What can we
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not do because of Elizabeth Warren? I, for one, I'm going to blur. I'm going to blur every, every time
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I see the word Chinese, I'm going to blur it. Blur it in my mind. Spray paint it out. I'm not having
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Chinese food. I'm not going to a Chinese restaurant. I'm just going to a plain old restaurant.
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When they reopen. I'm just going to eat plain old food. Yeah. Chinese food. No, I'm having
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American food. That's what I'm having. Yeah, sure. It might have a side of bat soup. But that's a good
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old American recipe. Unless it becomes offensive to say that. Then, of course, it's back to Chinese
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food. Not sure how we're going to play this game all the way out. But that's who she is. Elizabeth
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Warren. Another profile in Courage. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.
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Hi, it's Glenn. If you're a subscriber to the podcast, can you do us a favor and rate
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You can subscribe on iTunes. Thanks, Mr. Bill O'Reilly. Are you quarantined? Will people
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actually deliver things to your house? Because they must know. Why would they change now?
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Right. Okay. I was going to say, you're like the guy. You were the guy in the end. Get
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off my lawn, you kids. And they're 45 year old men. That's you. You're the guy who, even
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when you were 20, was the old guy in the neighborhood shouting at kids, weren't you?
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Thank you, Beck. You're so kind. This is like the Adams family house here. Okay. So nobody
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ever comes. And I wouldn't know if I was quarantined or not. Right. Nobody comes to visit you.
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But I have a giant bazooka in case that Midler shows up.
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Good. You know, so what I'd like to. What? Go ahead. The dumbest. No, no, go. The dumbest
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statement. I'm keeping lists now of all the pandemic occurrences. I have lists, about 50
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of them. And I have the dumbest statement list. All right. Bette Midler. Bette Midler tweeted
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that she believes President Trump is lying about not having the coronavirus because he's
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lied 16,500 times before. Bette Midler. Now, can you stop that? Can you, can anyone stop
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that? No. Well, all of the people who are saying that Donald Trump is a racist by calling this
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the China virus? He doesn't have a problem calling it COVID. He doesn't have, he, he's
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trolling them. He's trolling them and they don't get it.
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It's not Bette. She, she wins. So I got all the lists and, and just tell me, Beck, what
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you are interested in, in this pandemic. Well, and I will tell you what really is happening.
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And this is what we do on billoreilly.com, which is far and away. The blaze is good. I
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understand, but this is protecting you and your family. You got to go to my website. Go
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ahead. All right. So, so Bill, here's what I would like to know. Uh, and this is, and
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I know you don't like to make personal comments or, you know, anything like that, but I'd like
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you, I'd like to know where are you on the scale of, please, this is nothing. We're
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overreacting to my gosh, we're all going to die. Where are you on that scale?
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I understand the danger to the public. All right. So when you have a virus that's invisible
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and spreads quickly through airborne, which means droplets in the air, you have to take
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extraordinary measures. You have to. All right. That's where you start. You start there. Now,
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what are the extraordinary measures? So just this morning I got up, I went out, I filled
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my car up with gasoline. Okay. So I have a full tank. I went to the dog food place because
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I don't want the dog to starve and the dog, Beck, you're not going to believe this, but the
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dog does not know how to open cans on her own. She can't. My dog does. My dog looks
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at the can, can't figure out how to open it. So I get the dog food for the next three weeks
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so I don't have to worry about the dog. Then I go to Walgreens. All right. To get a birthday
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card because birthdays don't stop in the middle of the pandemic. I get the car. You know, you
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can do all this online. Just go ahead. Yeah. You see the guys. That's ridiculous. I see
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my guy Walgreens. I wave to him. I got, I go, got any toilet paper? No, we won't have
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any until the year 2030. I said, okay, good. Um, and goodbye. Then I go to the bagel place.
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All right. And I get a couple of bagels. Um, and then I come home to talk to you. So that's
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exactly what I did. And then when I came home, I washed up. I did wash up because I had the gas
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nozzle. I had the Walgreens door. So I washed up. I washed up nice. And now I'm clean talking
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to you. Right. Okay. So you're, you're just saying I'm not really changing anything in my
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life. Uh, you know, I'm, are you, are you still going out to eat and you know, things like
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that? Or can you even in Long Island? You can't do that in New York. Um, you can't go to the
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restaurant. You can do takeout. And since I don't know how to cook and I got to do takeout or I die.
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Got it. Um, so takeout is all right. I talked to my doctor. I said, is there any danger of,
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you know, the takeout and, uh, you know, look, I, it's so remote that, you know, if you want to
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starve yourself, go ahead. But I would eat the takeout, which is what I'm doing. Um, so look,
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otherwise you have to eat, you might have to eat the dog. Your overarching question, though,
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is an important question for all Americans listening today. So you, you're in the middle of
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this thing. It's, it's, um, there are, there is fault here and we'll get to that. I hope a little
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bit later on whose fault this is, because there is fault, but no one can do anything about it.
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So de Blasio, the mayor of New York city comes out and says, Oh, I want the military
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in the city. This is what he says today. All right. And I support that as long as
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they arrest the Blasio. If the military, I think they'd like to, I think they'd like to.
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Hey, now there are 4,000 cases in a city of eight and a half million. All right. 4,000
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cases. There will be more. All right. And then you've got a packed city. I don't live in a city
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of 20 miles outside the city. You got a part of people live on one. So that's a dangerous
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situation. It is. You got to be careful, but that city, that city will, people, people don't
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have any idea how dangerous that city is. You have 8 million people living in a very small
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area. Yeah. And nobody has food. You don't, you don't store food there. You just go get
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it. If everything's closed, that city is a ticking time bomb. The national guard should
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be there. Look, closed is California. This is, and this gets me. Oh, we want you to shelter
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in place. You know, that is the most annoying phrase. It's worse than at the end of the day.
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It's just annoying. It's San Francisco annoying. All right? Okay. All right. All right. If you want
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me to stay in the house, I'm going to stay in the house. I don't want a shoker in place.
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Right. Okay. All right. Okay. So what are your thoughts on the government coming out? Not
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the government, the state governments coming out and saying, you must close your business
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in Oklahoma of all places. They're telling people to call the state government and report
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if anyone is still doing business. You don't have a right to do that. What are your thoughts
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on it? Right. But you lose, because all the, and I looked this up because Bill O'Reilly.com
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does this. All the precedents of the legal rulings always put public safety ahead of constitutional
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rights. Thereby, politicians have the right to declare martial law. They have a right to quarantine.
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They have a right to stop people coming and going. Do you realize there's a county, a beautiful
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county in Colorado, San Miguel County, that's Telluride, 8,000 people. You can't go there.
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They will stop you. They don't want anyone coming into the county at all. No human beings can come
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in. Now that's clearly unconstitutional. But if you challenge it, number one, the judges wouldn't
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show up to hear it, because they're all in the basement hiding. And number two, you would lose
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on public safety. So that's what's happening. So are you concerned at all about any of the
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constitutional rights? Like, for instance, there's only one guy in Washington, D.C. that is an FFL
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dealer, a guy who can sell guns. Only one. Because apparently years ago, the city screwed
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him. And so they made him some stupid promise that you're going to be the only one that could
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sell guns. Well, he won't sell guns now. I mean, how do you feel about things like that?
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Where long, long run. And I'm always a long run guy. I think this is over by June. All right. I could
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be wrong on that. And maybe I'm irresponsible putting forth that opinion. But if I'm looking at
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what happened to China and China's totalitarian, so they shut Wuhan province down. Talk about
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nobody and nobody out. I mean, the army just shut it down. Well, they don't have many new cases over
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there in the whole country. So it looks to me like this is a two-month ordeal if we are prudent.
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And we are. Americans are prudent. I mean, you know, a lot of people outside of the spring break
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idiots doing irresponsible stuff. So I see it abating or dissipating every Memorial Day. But
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the Second Amendment is stronger, will emerge stronger, way much, much, much stronger.
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Than it was before the pandemic. And there are a lot of things like that. All right. The financial
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community is going to be in a little trouble. People are going to reevaluate whether they buy
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stocks. So you buy stocks, you hold on, they go up for three, four years, you're happy. And in one
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day, it's gone. You got to think about it. So I want to, you know, I want to start that. I want to,
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we're going to take a quick break. And then I want to come back to that. Because there's some real
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problems, Bill, that I don't know how you combat and, and, and, and how do you, I mean, what's the
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world look like in, we're doing this for three months from now, most small businesses have about
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45 days of survival. How do you, how do you help them? What, what's, what, what is the world going to
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look like? You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program. Do these state governments have
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the right to tell you what to do and not to do? And they can make real strong recommendations, but
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especially when it comes to your first amendment, don't you have a right to congregate? Don't you
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have a right to come together? Now in you, when you look at this, uh, the state always seems to win
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in the courts, uh, to be able to say, no, it's for public health, but where does that right begin
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and end? Well, there is one pastor. He is the pastor of life tabernacle church. Uh, he's in
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Baton Rouge and he is defying the governor. Uh, his name is Reverend Tony Spell and he is on the
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phone with us now. Reverend, how are you, sir? Better than I deserve. How are you, Glenn? Um, I'm good.
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So now tell me what exactly is, is happening there with your church? What is happening is, um,
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we have, uh, continued to assemble since the governor's orders, uh, last week, Sunday morning.
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I had 1170 people in attendance. We ran 27 Sunday school buses that reach, uh, the impoverished
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areas of our city. We bring those children to our churches. We picked up 643 children last week.
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We feed everyone a breakfast. Uh, we teach them the word of God and we have recreation and,
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uh, pray over everybody. And we do that on a weekly basis. Uh, this is, this is important. I would
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imagine Tony, cause it's an impoverished area and like, there's a lot of children. Now, if you're
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not going to school, you're not getting breakfast, you may not get lunch. Uh, and so you're providing
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food. Um, but, but the governor doesn't like that. Um, and I, there's a controversy, I guess,
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in the press on whether they sent the national guard to shut you down or not. National guard
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said, no, we have nothing to do with that. Can you tell me what happened?
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What happened was, uh, Sunday morning, of course, we had a parking lot full of people. So a reporter
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came by and then Tuesday asked what we were having service again. So she came, uh, us representative
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Woody Jenkins live streams, my service with over 100,000 viewers at that point. Um, central, uh,
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police department showed up on my front porch. I want to clarify, uh, what happened with that
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later if I could. And it was made that the national guard would be deployed to disband groups of 50
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or more. I prayed over that individual. I gave him an anointed cloth and I respected, uh, what he was
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doing. And I said, uh, you're doing your job. We're doing our job as a church. Uh, within, within 12
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hours I had, uh, the governor's office meet with me in my office here at my church. Also, uh, uh,
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members of Washington, uh, that are connected with the white house have also reached out to me
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and the whole tenure has changed somewhat as far as the, um, you know, the, the being persecuted for
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the faith. However, um, I guess some of our greatest persecution right now is coming from,
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um, other people that are asking us to stop having our services, which we hold as a conviction and we
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will not stop having our services. So what happened at the, what happened with the phone calls and the,
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the visit from the governor? What, what, what were they saying? What did the white house say to you?
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Uh, they said, Reverend, we're not asking you to close your doors. What can we do to accommodate
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you? I said, there are no guidelines. If I go across the border three hours, there's thousands
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of people gathering on beaches. Uh, if I go five miles up the road, uh, Walmart target or still
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assembling because they're quote unquote essential parts of our community, which is what's not being
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said is, is speaking volumes. That's saying the church is a non-essential part of our community.
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And I believe that we are more essential to our community. I've, I've had, uh, two teenage girls
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attempt suicide this week because their parents have lost their jobs. Uh, they're not in school.
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It's a time of peril and distress. So, uh, basically they said, Reverend, we know you're going to keep
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your doors open. We just ask that you comply with it, with whatever, uh, restrictions are set in
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place. And, and, uh, the, the scripture that's really being posed to me from, uh, the brethren is
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Romans 13, which the governing body and my governing body is the word of God, which says,
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do not forsake the assembling of yourself together. Matthew 18, 20 gather together. And I don't have the
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ability to live stream. The majority of my people that I minister to do not have internet. They count on me
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on a weekly basis for spiritual guidance, prayer, uh, healing, and, uh, preaching and prophecy.
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So, uh, where we stand now is we're going to have service Sunday morning. I have people as far as
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Washington state, Alabama, California, who are coming to my service to stand in solidarity with us.
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Uh, during the president's address yesterday, when the surgeon general spoke, uh, the Lord quickened me
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when he spoke of the blood bank shortage. We're also having a blood drive on my premises because our
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blood banks are, are desperately empty right now. Um, I'm feeding my restaurant owners in my church
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have closed their doors under the government mandate. They're losing their food right now. They're
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losing their business. I told them that I would, uh, I would financially support them to feed
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everybody that comes to my service. And this is, this is what our ministry is in our city.
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So Reverend, I think, I mean, you are in a really tough situation. Um, and this is not like one of
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those, you know, this is not one of those rich churches and et cetera, et cetera. You are, you sound,
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and I don't know anything about your church or anything, but what you've just told me, you sound
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like you're really trying to help the community and you do have a right to do that. And you have a
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responsibility to do that. Um, when it comes to the services, go ahead. No, I, I have a God given
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obligation to, yes, regardless of the laws that are mandated to me by my government.
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Now, um, are you, are you going to take measures to keep people? Because there are people that just
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don't think that this is deadly at all. Uh, and are you one of those people?
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No, sir. I, I, I've assured, uh, uh, I've assured our state officials and national officials,
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I'll take whatever measures are necessary. Which measures are those? I was informed by
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medical, medical staff yesterday, stop using hand sanitizer. That makes you more susceptible to
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this virus. And, and we've got it. We've got a nation that's on a, uh, hand sanitizer craze right
00:32:20.340
now, and that's not helping. It's hurting. So what do I do? There's divers weights and there are false
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balances in our society right now. There's one against the church and there's one for commerce.
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And that's what, uh, our argument is. So, so you're, yes. Last, last Sunday, your sermon was a sermon
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about not giving into fear. What is your sermon about this Sunday? This Sunday, I'm, uh, uh, taking two
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texts, Luke 21, when men's hearts are failing them for fear. Don't look down. Don't look around.
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Look up. Let's look to God in these times of peril. Uh, Daniel, the third chapter, I'm going to talk
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about three stiff-legged boys among a, among a generation of weak need people who bowed and who
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bent under the tyrannical rule of King Nebuchadnezzar, who said, do not worship any other
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God, but me. And those three boys stood. I feel that this is, uh, Christianity's finest hour to stand
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and let's do not lose our freedoms for gathering together. Uh, so that's my sermon is to keep
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standing and let's do not live in fear. God has not given us a spirit of fear, Glenn,
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but a power of love and a sound mind. And in an hour where children are home from school,
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parents have no daycare, their daycares are closed. Parents have lost their jobs.
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Dental workers in my church are forbidden to go to work. They have no money. The last stable,
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uh, institution in their life is the church. And, and how long can we keep our doors closed?
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We refuse to close our doors. Um, Reverend, I have to tell you, I, I, I don't know how this is all
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going to play out. Uh, you know, and, but, uh, I applaud you for, uh, your conviction. I'm not sure
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what I would do if I were in your situation, but, uh, I, you know, I'm not the one getting the
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guidance. That's your calling and your keys. Um, and I, I appreciate the, the fact that you're
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standing up for your community and you're right. Uh, I just, I, I pray and I wish you great luck,
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success, and safety for all people that would be coming your way. I don't know what I would do
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in your situation. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you, Glenn.
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