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Bill O'Reilly and Dave Rubin join Glenn Beck on the Glenn Beck show to discuss all the crazy things going on in the world, including Joe Biden, the Keystone XL pipeline, and more. Glenn also talks about China and what keeps him up at night.
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Welcome to the podcast today. Bill O'Reilly joins us for his weekly appearance. He's got a new book
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out called Killing the Mob, but we mainly talk about this country we live in is going to stand
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and all the crazy things that are going on in it. We have that. We also have Dave Rubin on the
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program today. He was great. We talk about the new COVID guidance, which is different than the
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old COVID guidance that came out a couple of weeks ago, which you should totally ignore now
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because the science changed or something. Check it out. Make sure to subscribe to this podcast and
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to the another great podcast, Stew Does America. It's available right here on this podcast app.
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You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
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Yesterday, I spent about 90 minutes with Nikki Haley. Holy cow, is she great. I just love her.
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She was so strong on the Republicans. She's like, stop it. The Republicans get a clue. You've got to
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step up. And here's and I said, what's the thing that could bring us all together? She said,
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the Trump policies. She said they were working. We were energy independent. The world was moving
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towards peace. Look at what is happening. China was in a cage. And look what we are now. She's like,
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we must just stand up for the Trump policies and stop being such wussies. And when I asked her,
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you know, I said, let's just talk, let's just talk about, you know, the pipeline and the ransom that
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was paid. And Biden saying, you know, there's, there's, you know, it's a private industry. They
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can pay the ransom or not. I'm convinced that's a shark bump. Sharks, when they come up to you,
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if you ever happen to be swimming with sharks, which I don't recommend, but if you happen to be
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swimming, they're going to come up and bump you. And the reason why they bump is because they want
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to see if your food or not food reacts, you know, a driftwood doesn't. So they come up and they bump
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you. And if they bump you and you move, they eat you. I'm convinced that the pipeline, it was not
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intended as a shark bump, but it is now a shark bump and we moved and they are going to eat us.
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This is, this is like, um, uh, Beirut in the 1980s. What was it? 1985. And, uh, the, uh, uh,
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radicals, Palestinians, I think went in and they blew up the Marine barracks in, uh, in, uh, Lebanon
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and all these Marines died. Reagan was the president. The advice to the president was don't
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do anything. You'll only make it worse. Just move on. Well, we did. And a little young guy named
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Osama bin Laden watched that and went that little band of terrorists just made the most powerful
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military on earth move. We can eat them. I think that's what this pipeline was about and the reaction
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of Biden. I now understand. Let me play, uh, let me play a little Nikki Haley. Yeah. You know what I'm
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saying? Here's Nikki Haley from the podcast that is available now to blaze subscribers. Uh, and it
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comes out every Thursday for blaze TV subscribers. If you're not a subscriber, wherever you get your
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podcast, you'll be able to hear this on Saturday. You are really going to like, uh, what she has to
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say and what she believes we should do and the trouble that is being caused by Joe Biden.
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Here's what keeps her up at night. Listen to this. Somebody asked me what keeps you up at night.
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The thing that keeps me up at night is China. And the reason that China keeps me up at night
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is just look at this scenario that they've given us. Um, when I was at the United Nations,
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my first year, they were what we knew of China, which was quiet. They didn't want any public
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interaction. They, you know, talk to things, you know, simply no fanfare. They didn't want anything.
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Once president, she made himself King got rid of term limits. All of that changed overnight. They
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started infiltrating the UN trying to become heads of different agencies. They started putting their
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fingers in countries' faces, threatening to, um, saying you better vote with us or else. They just
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got extremely aggressive, more vocal, all of that. They are now building up their military. They have
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the largest Naval fleet in the world. They have more air defense systems. They're modernizing their
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military. We're not. They continue to steal intellectual property. President Trump was right to call them
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out on that. It's only as good as if we follow up on it. The human rights abuses. This isn't just
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another human rights abuse. This is very telling. Here you have a million Muslim Uyghurs in concentration
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camps, making them change their name, change their religion, forcing them to drink, which is against
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their religion, sexual abuse, physical abuse. We said that we would never again turn our eyes away
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from genocide. What is happening there now? It's the reason why I think we should boycott the Olympics.
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When China did the last Olympics, it was very much known that China saw it as their coming out party.
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When this Beijing Olympics happens, they are planning that this is going to be them showing the world that
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they are the new superpower of the world. And you mark my words, after that Olympics, if everything goes
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smooth, they're going to take Taiwan. And when they take Taiwan, it's over. It's over.
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What does that mean? What does that mean? It's over.
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Because if they, so they already tried it with Hong Kong to see if anybody was going to do anything.
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And we didn't really do anything. If they take Taiwan, then it's, then it's not about their region
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anymore. Then they're going to just go start taking other places. Then you're going to start seeing them
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eat up other countries, even though they can't lay claim to them, they will. And that's the danger of
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it. You know, then you go a step further. They have, you know, invested in all of these little
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properties. These are frivolous infrastructure projects that they're doing. They do it in these
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little countries waiting for such a time as this, when COVID hits, run up the debt. And then they say,
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you can't pay it back. Give us your military installation. Give us your port. Give us your utility.
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Now you look at that map, it'll send a chill up your spine. But the one that I think is the worst
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president, she started a commission years ago that he personally chairs that says any company that does
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business in China has to cooperate with the Chinese military. Now think about our tech companies,
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think about the health data, think about our personal data, think about our families and think
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that the Chinese military has that. This played out in real time during COVID when two
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American companies, 3M and Honeywell, producing PPE, China would not let them send it to us or any
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other country. Instead, they bought it wholesale and said, we will only give it to countries who
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agree to do business with Huawei or 5G network. That is the country we're dealing with.
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Okay, there's enough there to keep you up at night for the next decade. Did you know that about the PPEs
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and the American companies that couldn't send it to us? No, that's really bad. I mean, considering,
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especially considering they basically started this entire thing. Right. Right. Like they should have
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been running to try to help everyone in every way possible, but they don't care. Yeah. Her point is,
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is that they're not, they're not afraid, especially now with Joe Biden and his son in office. They're not
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afraid of us. And she's right. If they go into Taiwan, which I think they will do, we're not going to do
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anything. We wouldn't do anything under this administration. If we don't do anything, they
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will begin to eat. The world will be a smorgasbord for them. This is the best of the Glenn Beck
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program. So I don't know if you've heard this amazing story from DC. I'm sure you have. It's,
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I mean, Kevin Bacon in footloose, the DC band now on dancing at weddings. Well, one bride said,
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I'm not, no, sorry. I'm dancing at my wedding. And there were, there were no exceptions. I mean,
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not outside, not vaccinated, not double mass, nothing, no exceptions. Well, when I say that,
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that's not entirely true. I mean, there were, you know, uh, you know, they, they were still going
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to allow, uh, dancing, you know, uh, at, uh, Zumba classes and, uh, strip clubs. You could also dance
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there. So, but not at a wedding. Well, the bride had enough. She called, uh, the, uh, Hamilton Lincoln
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Law Institute and, uh, got herself an attorney and the attorney happens to be the director of the
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Hamilton Lincoln Law Institute. His name is Theodore Frank. Uh, Ted, welcome to the, uh, may I call you
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Ted or do you prefer Theodore? Uh, please. Ted is perfect. Thank you. Okay. Uh, pleasure to be here.
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Thank you. So, so tell me, go ahead. No, I, I just want to give credit to my, uh, co-counsel,
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Adam Shulman and, and the folks at the Liberty Justice Center. Okay. So tell, so tell me that
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this is an incredible, uh, story to happen here in America. I feel like it's, I don't know, uh, 1950
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or something. Uh, tell me about this. Yeah. I mean, you just had this really arbitrary decision by
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the mayor's office and, and we had a client who'd been vaccinated. Uh, she'd been very careful.
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throughout the pandemic. Uh, she was sewing together masks when the CDC was still telling
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people don't wear masks. Uh, and, and to, you know, she had the wedding set up. She had limited
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the guest list to 70 to, to, to, to meet, um, social distancing requirements and capacity restrictions
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and, and, and to, to have the rug pulled out under her just a few weeks before her wedding
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upset her. So, um, I would imagine, I would imagine it did. And don't mess with a bride,
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uh, just a few weeks before her wedding. Uh, so, so when you guys took the case, uh, that there
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was, there were no exceptions. I mean, unless she was going to be in a strip club, right?
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That's exactly right. And, you know, somebody suggested to us, Hey, why, why don't you just
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hold the wedding there? But, you know, this isn't just, uh, you know, can, can sneak onto
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the dance floor and start dancing, you know, the, the venue, you know, doesn't want to lose
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its license and, and, and, and, and, you know, and, and she had a contractual obligation to
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be, uh, following the venue's COVID restrictions. So, uh, the only way to get out of this is,
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is, is, uh, to, to get the, the district of Columbia to, to remove its restrictions.
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It's odd that they are doing it, that they did this now. I mean, a year ago. Okay. But why now?
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Well, I, I, you know, some of it was, um, you know, DC had completely shut down so that
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there, there weren't any venues until a few months ago. And, uh, but what we've learned
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over the last year is, is that our public health bureaucracy doesn't really know what
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they're doing and arbitrary restrictions that don't make sense. And, you know, we we've had
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all the, this, uh, hygiene theater, uh, about closing playgrounds down, even though outdoors
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is exactly where you want to be during a pandemic. Um, and, and this is all very counterproductive
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to, to, to sort of say, it doesn't matter if you're vaccinated. Uh, you know, you, you
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want to encourage people to be vaccinated. That's how we get rid of this thing. And, and,
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and to say, Oh, it doesn't matter if you're vaccinated. It doesn't matter if your guests
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are vaccinated. We still have to pretend like, uh, like you, you'd be a vaccinated bride and
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a vaccinated groom are going to spread cooties. And it's just dumbfounding. And, and so, uh,
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we were very, we're very privileged to, to get to bring this, this litigation. And, and we hope
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that, uh, just the threat of litigation gets DC to back down. Okay. So they already have
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backed down. They've made a, they've, they've given a press conference and said, where, you
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know, the things are changing and we're not going to do that. Um, but that's, that's really
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probably not good enough. Is it? That's the problem, right? They've, they've given the
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press conference, uh, we're, we're looking for better written assurances. Um, they, we'll,
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we'll see what DC does. We're ready to, to file the motion for an injunction. If, uh, DC
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does, isn't consistent with the press conference. Of course, you know, a press conference isn't
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legally binding. You can't take a press conference to the venue, but given that even the CDC, uh,
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has just opened things up really dramatically, uh, in, in, in the last week, uh, in the last
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24 hours, uh, we, we expect DC to, to, to keep its word. Um, and, um, the embarrassment,
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uh, of, of, of just a really insane regulation, I, I think, uh, and getting called out on it has,
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has, has gotten them to back down. So Ted, I, I've, I'm, I used to, I used to believe in a lot
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of things, including the rule of law here. Um, but I'm, I'm not so sure anymore. What are the
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ramifications to the rest of us? If this case is lost? Oh, we're, we're not going to lose. Uh, but,
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uh, you know, to the extent that, uh, government can impose arbitrary restrictions, uh, on, on,
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on speech, that's obviously very, very bad. Uh, but so what is it? What are the, if you say
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we're not going to, you're not going to lose, what are the ramifications for the rest of us
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when you win? Well, I, I, I, I think it's, it's, it's, this is pretty straightforward black
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letter law that you can't have these sorts of, that, that dancing is, is a component of expressive
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speech and you can't have speech restrictions when, when there are, there are less restrictive
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alternatives available, um, and that, that accomplish the same goals. And so we, we have,
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we're, we're very confident that DC will either back down or that we will win in court. Uh, we're
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very confident that Margaret will get to dance at her wedding. Uh, and, uh, and it's a good thing
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when, when, when courts are enforcing the bill of rights. I have to tell you, I'm, I'm, I'm glad that
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she is, uh, you know, uh, just for political purposes. I'm glad she's not an anti-vaxxer and,
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you know, all of those things. Cause it would have been lost, uh, with all of that. I'm glad
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she was somebody that was sewing masks to double up on the mask and following all the rules. Uh,
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and, uh, you know, and now is standing up against the insanity that is affecting all of us. Thank
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you so much, Ted. I appreciate it. Thanks for having us on the show. You bet. Bye-bye.
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It's nuts. Nuts. I, did you read the, did you see the tweet from president Biden last night?
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No, you know, I mean the, the one thing you knew about, uh, president Trump was he was in charge of
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his Twitter. Yeah. You know, he, he was, he was doing that. Um, yeah, but what is, uh, what's really
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not clear is who is tweeting for him. So I, I think this was to some 20 something that just said,
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Oh, the rule is, is now simple. Get vaccinated or wear a mask until you do. The choice is yours.
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We're going to come out of the house and get you. I mean, I think this was some 20 year old that was,
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you know, in charge of his Twitter feed last night. I can, I couldn't believe the arrogance.
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Couldn't believe the arrogance. So many things that are, are, are infuriating about it. Obviously,
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like as we pointed out earlier, this is the United States of America. You don't, the, the,
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the president has no constitutional power whatsoever to make rules that would apply to us in this
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manner. Uh, so even if you want to say, well, then the States should apply his guidance into
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laws. Well, then it still wouldn't be the president of the United States doing this. But beyond all of
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that, like he acts as if, come on guys, this is easy. What the hell are you talking about? You had
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different guidance two weeks ago. You guys have changed your opinion on this 500,000 times. It's
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not easy at all. People, can't you understand why people would be totally, uh, out in the dark on
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this? Why do you think they changed it? I mean, because literally just a couple of weeks, we've
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been saying this since the vaccine was out. Yeah. You should just tell everybody. Yeah. Yeah.
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Get a vaccine and go back to work, take the mask off. Yep. And they didn't and didn't and didn't and
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didn't. Uh, you know, Fauci was like, maybe next mother's day we'll be able to, you know,
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kiss mom through the mask and maybe only one plate of glass. Right. Uh, you know, I mean,
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and now all of a sudden the CDC is like, Nope, you're good. You know, take the mask off.
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I don't know what the reasoning is. I mean, obviously eventually this had to happen,
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right. Uh, you know, there's people who've been saying for a while that like, Oh, they're
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never going to remove these restrictions. I mean, I don't think that was ever real. And
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I think that this is giving Biden being president gives blue States the opportunity to take these
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restrictions off because before they couldn't admit that Trump had any success or anything
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was positive. So now that Biden's president, they can now take the masks off and claim like,
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Oh, finally Biden's here to save the day. I do think that like there has been over the
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past couple of weeks, seemingly legitimate pushback from media members, questioning them
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and hammering them on this point. And it was, we've been doing it forever and they never listened
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when the media. And I think it's because the media, they, those people in the media are now
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vaccinated and they want to go back to doing, uh, you know, what they want to do.
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I don't think anybody, I don't think anybody at CNN did. I mean, Sanjay Gupta was like,
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I'm practically in tears last night. It's our national nightmare. I mean, can we take the mask
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off? Should we take the mask off? I can't wait to take the mask off, but I'm not sure if we can
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take it off. There's all sorts of goblins in these people's heads about, about whether they can take
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it off. But I think like, they don't want to be the victim of, uh, of a shaming online when they're
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seen outside without a mask on. And so they want to be able, they have to be told, they've been
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totally telling you the entire time you have to listen to science. It's so easy. Just listen to
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what the government says. So they need the government to say that it's okay. Even though
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they all know it's okay. They need the government to tell them that they can, their lives can go on
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as normal. Unlike a lot of people in red States who say, you know what, look, we've looked at this.
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We've understood, we've understood this a lot better than we did March, 2020. And we understand now,
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look at, look at the science. It clearly states that once you're vaccinated, you are in really
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good shape to go out with almost no risk whatsoever. So people are doing it and they're doing it all
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over the place. And the media, I think knows they know this is nonsense. And the CDC is being way too
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careful for God knows what reason they've admitted more or less that it's because they don't want to
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change the culture yet. They don't, they want mask culture to continue. It's why Kamala Harris is
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posting pictures of herself on a zoom call with a mask on. Uh, and you know, look, I, I think they
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all know just like we all know that this is craziness. Uh, and finally they're admitting it.
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I don't know if it's the pressure there have been, there have been actual interviews of people
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pushing back on them on this. Maybe that's part of it. Maybe it's just complete embarrassment.
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Uh, I don't know. Maybe the American people have shamed them successfully.
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I don't even know what, I honestly don't even know why I asked you. I'm sorry. I,
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I asked a known grandmother killer, uh, for his advice on masks.
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You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
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Mr. Dave Rubin from the Rubin report and the author of don't burn this book.
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I'm good. It's good to see you guys. It's good to be here in the free state of Texas
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When are you just going to pull the trigger and come to paradise?
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Glenn, you know, I'm a glutton for punishment. I lasted in the
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left for a long time. I was part of the machine and I have a high tolerance for insanity. And I
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think that that has kept me there longer than I should be. I mean, trust me, every piece of me
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wants to move at this. Look, there's two reasons. Basically you stay in LA. One obviously is the
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weather. And then the previous piece in Los Angeles in SoCal was that Hollywood and the biz,
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the business that were all sort of ancillarily. And if you're in politics and media that was there,
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that has completely collapsed. Now the weather is still nice, but it's not enough. And I'm trying
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to figure out what to do, but you know, like you, I own a couple of businesses and it's not just me
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picking up and leaving tomorrow. It takes a lot of different things. So we're talking about it
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because it's depressing there. It's depressing. It's sort of, it's not as bad as New York city.
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I heard you and Bill O'Reilly a few minutes ago in New York city is just beyond it's dystopian at this
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point. But LA has some level of zombie apocalypse to it. In five years, if they continue down this
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path, it really could be escaped from New York. Yeah. I mean, yeah, I was in, I lived for most of
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my adult life in Manhattan. So I, as Bill was saying, you know, it's like, I know Manhattan.
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I love Manhattan to be in Midtown was scary. It was legitimately scary because every, first off,
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you know, everyone's got the mask. Everyone's walking alone because no one's going anywhere. You know,
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like they're doing little errands maybe, but no one's going out anywhere really. So everyone's
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alone with the mask kind of head down. There's board, you know, uh, you got barricades all over
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the place, cops all over the place. It's dirty. You know, things are boarded up. That is not New
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York city, the greatest city in the entire world in the history of the world. I mean, the cultural
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capital of the world, man, not now. Yeah. And LA man. And you know what they're saying there,
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they're saying they're opening up Broadway and everything else. But I honestly don't
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know if New Yorkers are going to be able to deal with it. There is such an identity
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with the mask and isolation. It has become, it really has, I think, become a religion for
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so many people. I mean, it's why Cuomo has been saying, we got to follow the science, got
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to follow the science. And then what does he do? See a CDC comes out and says, okay, get
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vaccinated. Don't, don't wear a mask. And he says, well, well, well, well, we're not ready for that
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yet. Yeah. I don't think, I don't think it's hyperbolic. I don't think it's hyperbolic at this
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point to say there was virtually no science behind any of this, that the lockdowns did absolutely
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nothing. I mean, we know that we absolutely know that the lockdowns did nothing. They have
00:25:36.000
inflicted a psychological condition on people to now make us afraid of each other, to make us turn
00:25:43.080
on each other. And I'm, what I'm afraid is what have they seated us with? What is next?
00:25:47.700
What did they just do to us that they could make us do things that are unimaginable, you know,
00:25:53.000
months or years from now? So I said this last hour, um, and there's probably a much better analogy, but
00:25:59.980
the absence of a mask on somebody has become almost like a yellow star. Uh, so many people on the liberal
00:26:10.520
side, see the mask as a sign that you're part of the party. And when you, when you're not wearing a
00:26:18.940
mask, you're a problem. And they've been shaming us. They've been side-eyeing us, uh, speaking out,
00:26:27.320
calling us names. How do they remove that mask? Because it has become part of the identity of
00:26:34.500
the party. Well, Glenn, that goes directly to the danger that they've been doing for years now,
00:26:39.680
which was calling us all racist and bigots and Nazis. And I know that you personally, you Glenn,
00:26:44.500
you've gotten into hot water from the lefty media at times for making the Nazi analogy.
00:26:49.420
And I completely agree with you on this. They are that when you make the Nazi analogy, I mean,
00:26:54.080
the irony is these are the people who call all of us Nazis, but the Nazis didn't just show up one
00:26:58.540
day. It didn't just show up one day. Yes. It is a process of othering people saying the worst
00:27:05.740
things about people. And now it's not just that our political views are odious and should be silenced
00:27:11.200
and kicked off big tech and everything else. It's that we are literally killing people by not wearing
00:27:16.680
masks, by not bowing to these people. And, and who is, who's actually the ones that are instigating the
00:27:24.320
hate? It's, it's them. You want to wear a mask, wear a mask. You want to get vaccinated, get vaccinated.
00:27:29.080
That's all on you. Live your life. And you can be pro vaccination and be vaccinated and pro mask
00:27:37.800
and still have that a point of view. Sure. I mean, sure. But that's because I don't think so.
00:27:42.980
Well, because that's because we respect individual rights. We respect freedom and liberty. And what
00:27:47.560
they respect is power and control. But I think you're making a good point. You know, this is one of
00:27:53.080
those people get very upset when people make any sort of Nazi reference or Holocaust reference coming,
00:27:58.300
say from our side, even though they do it all the time. But yes, at some point it becomes you've
00:28:04.100
othered people into they're not even people anymore. And what do you do with those not people?
00:28:11.340
So I, you know, I was going to talk to you about this later if we had time, but since we're talking
00:28:16.200
about this, I am so sick and tired of being called a Nazi. I'm so sick and tired of becoming a being
00:28:22.160
called an anti-Semite by the left. When the tweets about the attack on Jerusalem, I mean, I read this
00:28:32.220
yesterday. I don't know if you saw this, but a Muslim actress, she, and I'm quoting, this is what
00:28:40.920
she tweeted. I would have killed all the Jews of the world, but I kept some to show the world why I
00:28:48.420
killed them. Adolf Hitler. Who's the Nazi here? Yeah, this is a anti-Semite blue check person on
00:28:57.140
Twitter. You're allowed to do it. You know, Trump's not allowed to be on Twitter. Yeah. I mean, the
00:29:01.120
amount of crazy hate that I'm seeing on Twitter is off the charts. Look, you know, Glenn, first off,
00:29:05.700
the idea that you would be called this, you've been such an incredible friend to the Jewish people,
00:29:10.900
to Israel, to truth and history and all of those things. But what's happening is, you know, we've
00:29:15.900
been in a nonstop war on reality that has morphed into a full on war on truth. Nobody understands
00:29:22.660
history. Nobody understands geography. You know, if you listen to the way the mainstream media talks
00:29:27.640
about it, they seem like they're talking about this massive, ever expanding country, Israel. I mean,
00:29:32.840
you've been there many times. It's the size of New Jersey that at some point without the West Bank is
00:29:37.540
about six miles wide. You can drive across it in a couple hours north to south. You could drive
00:29:42.240
several times in a day. It's obscenely tiny. There is one tiny little nation state for the Jews. There
00:29:49.780
are many states that are Christian dominated, many states that are Muslim dominated. And this is just
00:29:55.100
the never ending battle for the Jews have a 5,000 year brutal history and somehow have stuck around.
00:30:01.520
So I know the Israelis will stick around and I know they're smart enough to stick around and have
00:30:05.440
the will to live, but watching the left just completely become everything I've been saying
00:30:11.020
it is and the vile stuff from Omar and Tlaib and these, these people, it's, it's incredible.
00:30:17.060
That's why I love talking to you, Dave, because I, I could have a plan for a conversation,
00:30:20.800
but it always goes off the rails because you're so fascinating. Let me, uh, let me, let me ask you
00:30:26.000
this as I was thinking about it. You're, you're, you're an agnostic, right?
00:30:31.040
No, I wouldn't say I'm agnostic anymore. No, I'm a believer. I'm a believer. I'll tell you
00:30:35.980
something. Did you see, did you happen to see a clip, uh, that was viral about a week or two ago
00:30:40.800
with, uh, Jordan Peterson on Tucker Carlson's, uh, Fox nation show. Did you happen to see it?
00:30:46.400
So there's, there's an incredible clip. Maybe your guys could pull it up if, if we could
00:30:50.020
snag the audio if possible, but basically what Jordan says, and I think it's the best
00:30:55.020
explanation of faith that I have heard that, that makes sense to me. He said that when he
00:31:00.040
was 25 years old, he started telling the truth because he started to believe that the truth,
00:31:05.360
no matter the cost would be better than any alternative. Meaning that if you say the truth
00:31:10.480
for truth's sake, that, that no matter, it doesn't mean good things are going to happen,
00:31:15.060
but it will be the best option, no matter what the lie you put out there is. And then what he went
00:31:19.680
on to say was, and this is, this is the key part. He said that doing that, believing in truth for
00:31:25.340
truth's sake and not going along with the lie, that that is the ultimate expression of faith
00:31:30.060
because that is taking a leap of faith for truth. And, and I've heard him say some version of that
00:31:36.860
many times. Obviously I was on tour with him for a year and a half, but I thought the succinct way,
00:31:40.600
and hopefully I gave it some slight justice there. That makes sense to me. Truth for truth's sake,
00:31:46.280
no matter what. And, and that is faith. That is faith. You're, I think you're exactly right. I
00:31:53.520
think he was right. Let's play the clip real quick. You make your decisions in life. And I decided when
00:31:58.820
I was very young, I'm in my mid twenties, that I was going to say what I believed and see what
00:32:03.480
happened. I talked to you earlier in the talk about adventure, you know, about the adventure of
00:32:09.020
truth. And I don't think, think I'm happy about what has happened. And I certainly have dragged my
00:32:14.860
family through their fair share of, well, both hell and, and also incomprehensible opportunity.
00:32:21.100
It's expanded our lives in both directions to a tremendous degree, but it's certainly been an
00:32:27.140
adventure. It's not been dull. And I don't believe that it, I don't believe that it was a mistake.
00:32:34.040
Whatever happens as a consequence of telling the truth is the best thing that can happen.
00:32:38.660
It doesn't really matter how it looks to you at the moment, or maybe even across the years,
00:32:44.100
because you have to, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's an article of faith in some sense.
00:32:48.020
Do you believe that reality is better constituted as a consequence of truth or falsity?
00:32:53.800
If you believe that reality is best constituted as a consequence of truth,
00:32:58.980
then you have a responsibility to speak the truth. And you can't assess the consequences and say,
00:33:05.500
well, that was a mistake because part of the decision that reality is best constituted
00:33:10.820
as a consequence of the truth is the decision that no matter what happens is the best,
00:33:15.740
if it's a consequence of telling the truth. Yes. And so that's what I conclude. It's like,
00:33:21.520
it's great. Okay. So I think, you know, Dave, I don't know if you know this, do you know that the,
00:33:27.140
why the blaze is called the blaze? You know why I named it that?
00:33:31.600
I'm sure I should know. I'm sure I should know. And I probably do know, but please tell me.
00:33:36.920
No, it was a private, it was a private decision. I've talked about it a few times, but a private
00:33:41.140
decision. Um, I called it the blaze because I believe when you stand in the fire of the truth,
00:33:50.120
it's a God thing. When you stand in the truth, it purifies you because you can't have any lies,
00:33:58.220
a part of your life. You can't, it, it, it, those will burn you up. But when you stand firmly in the
00:34:04.740
truth, that fire won't destroy you. It destroys everything else that is lies. Um, and it is a,
00:34:13.740
it's really is an article of faith. I believe that the truth wins.
00:34:19.420
That's it. Eventually. That's the key part that the truth for truth's sake,
00:34:23.720
that you have to take a leap of faith to believe that, right? Because we don't have empirical
00:34:28.400
evidence that just, if you tell the truth, things will work out. And that's actually
00:34:31.260
not what Jordan saying. He's not every, right. You do, you have no guarantee and bad things will
00:34:37.420
happen for sure, but they will be the best possible consequence because you went for truth. That to me
00:34:44.060
is such a, it's such a human granular, decent explanation of faith that that I believe that I
00:34:53.540
believe in that. And I also believe in things that are beyond me. So Dave talking about truth. I mean,
00:34:59.060
there are things that for instance, you know, you can, you can be a climate denier as they call it.
00:35:06.980
Um, but you, you have to accept that there are certain things that are true that show, you know,
00:35:15.440
the temperature is rising, blah, blah, blah. What that means is, is, is different than the facts.
00:35:21.580
So when, when people on the left see the facts of, of Israel and it being foretold and everything
00:35:31.460
else, how do you dismiss that? Well, Glenn, first off, so many of the people on the left don't
00:35:37.840
believe in facts. And that goes to what I was talking about before about a war on truth. Like,
00:35:42.940
for example, I'll tell you a few facts right now and let's see if we can agree on facts.
00:35:46.820
There was never a country known as Palestine. Is that true or false? True. That is true. There
00:35:52.320
was no country ever known as Palestine. There was an area that was part of the Ottoman empire for
00:35:57.380
hundreds of years. That was then part of the British empire. And when the British left, they
00:36:01.800
said to the Jews that were there and to the Arabs, they said, we're going to split this thing. It's
00:36:05.960
the 1947 partition plan. We're going to split this thing. Do you guys accept, you know, you'll take
00:36:11.200
your country, you'll take yours. By the way, they didn't say it to Palestinians because there were no
00:36:14.520
people known as Palestinians. There were Arabs who lived in that area. Well, the Jews said yes.
00:36:19.940
The Arabs said no. And then a war happened. And then thus Israel was born. Now, if you can't even
00:36:26.680
have this conversation when people are saying, well, they're occupying Palestine. Well, you say,
00:36:32.020
okay, well, who was the prime minister of Palestine? Who was the president of Palestine?
00:36:35.600
What did the nation look like? They can't even accept that. I mean, if you literally say just
00:36:40.680
that, they will, you know, call you all of the worst things. Even if you think about what's
00:36:44.760
happening right now, it's like, if, if, if there was a genocide happening, Jews are generally pretty
00:36:50.460
good at math. This is the worst genocide of all time. The Gaza population is exploding. It goes up
00:36:56.220
every year as does the Arab population in the West bank. Also don't forget there's a border of Gaza
00:37:02.900
with Egypt because Gaza used to be part of Egypt until they attacked Israel and lost Gaza.
00:37:09.100
Well, if Israel was slaughtering all of these people, you'd think that their Egyptian brothers
00:37:14.000
might open up the border. But Glenn, as I'm sure, you know, Egypt bombed the hell out of the border
00:37:18.160
to keep them there because they don't want them. And they filled tunnels up with water and they blew
00:37:22.840
up houses and all that. So that's a little offshoot of from what your question is related to.
00:37:28.440
Are you trying to connect this to the faith thing? I'm trying to get it to that. Even if you were to
00:37:32.220
tell basic truths to people, they'll just say, no, they'll just, no, no, can't be. And they don't want to
00:37:37.620
hear it. They don't want to hear it. So that's why so much of what we've been fighting is an erasure
00:37:41.560
of history as well. They don't want to know basic history because they have to fit everything to
00:37:45.780
their narrative rather than fit history into reality. It is. And then again, you have to deny
00:37:53.440
history. Again, you have to deny facts. Every time that happens, you do see genocide. Every time
00:38:00.940
someone tries to change or erase history and force people to do things, genocide happens.
00:38:07.200
Of course. And let's, even if you removed who was there first, removed the Bible, removed everything,
00:38:12.880
let's just say there was a completely 50, 50, who's wrong, who's right. And people are bombing
00:38:18.620
each other. Well, the new meme of the left is, oh, Israel is disproportionate in their use of force.
00:38:24.580
That the implication is that you should be proportionate in force. So if someone comes
00:38:29.560
to your house to stab you, you should only stab them equally. It's psychotic. It's absolutely
00:38:35.260
psychotic. By the way, the United States has never been disproportionate in force. Colin Powell had
00:38:40.140
the Powell doctrine, which was that if you attack a country, if whatever military action you do,
00:38:45.700
you do it with overwhelming force. So it doesn't happen again.
00:38:49.080
And otherwise you continue to fight. You want to slowly believe, go ahead.