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00:00:00.000 Lots to talk about today.

00:00:04.260 On the full show, we give you a lot of economic news, and some of it's really good.

00:00:07.920 I give you a look at something that nobody is talking about, and that is the pain that

00:00:15.060 the entire staff of The New York Times must have gone through to say, maybe what Trump

00:00:19.880 is doing in Iran is working.

00:00:22.660 Also, we talk about the steel mills that are being rebuilt.

00:00:25.860 Too big to question.

00:00:27.080 This is a really important story for AI and Donald Johnson, the guy that we told you a story about yesterday, the 81-year-old man.

00:00:38.100 We talked to him today and got the real story.

00:00:40.600 He really could use your help.

00:00:42.400 Make sure you listen to all of today's podcast.

00:00:44.660 you're listening to the best of the blend back program

00:00:57.700 uh welcome to the uh program glad you're here sorry i gotta take a little alivert

00:01:06.440 because my my i don't know what i'm allergic to there's nothing growing

00:01:12.100 i'm allergic to something um all right welcome to the program i want to i want to give you some

00:01:18.500 more news that i think is good news but it's a wait and see kind of thing look

00:01:24.100 i i want to tell you um i'm gonna tell you something i don't know why this show is successful

00:01:35.740 i'm not sure other people will tell you this um i'm not going to carry water for anybody i'm not

00:01:41.400 going to carry water for the administration or the Republicans or anything else. I'm going to

00:01:44.500 tell you the truth. And I'm going to be hopeful. I like the president. I think he's doing a great

00:01:49.060 job. And so when he's doing things that haven't, you know, turned the corner yet, I'm going to be

00:01:54.860 hopeful, but I'm not going to tell you that, you know, I'm not going to tell you something I don't

00:01:58.520 believe. And I also, I have so left the click and the audience building mania behind, I don't

00:02:14.480 care. And I haven't cared in a very, very long time about, oh, I've got to be number one. We

00:02:22.800 have to be first on this. I don't really care. If I chase that, I will chase the wrong things.

00:02:28.520 And this has been my philosophy for a long time.

00:02:30.400 I will chase the wrong things, and we will become everything that I despise.

00:02:36.120 My philosophy now is the country is just in so much trouble,

00:02:42.360 and I personally am so sick and tired of hearing clickbait.

00:02:47.240 I'm so tired of being tricked into a headline.

00:02:50.340 I'm so tired of somebody saying, I know this is exactly what's happening,

00:02:55.220 when they don't have any idea what's happening.

00:02:56.800 And so I am trying really hard not to be one of those guys because I think the most valuable thing that anyone can give to you is perspective, the facts, then perspective, and then on top of that say, but I don't know.

00:03:13.980 I could be wrong.

00:03:15.020 I'm not God.

00:03:16.660 I don't have a crystal ball.

00:03:19.760 In this world, everything is changing so quickly.

00:03:22.120 So I can tell you what I think this means today, and I'm going to be hopeful on what I think it means for tomorrow.

00:03:30.680 Let's stop with the game.

00:03:32.700 Okay, so let me tell you about the steel mills that came out yesterday.

00:03:37.300 I think this is a really good thing, but there's some caveats here.

00:03:41.340 Yesterday in the Oval Office, the president announced that the White House is now calling what will be the largest steel plant in American history.

00:03:51.840 is going to be built. $15 billion, Lee County, Iowa. That's in the bottom corner of the state

00:03:58.940 on the Mississippi, a couple of counties, and one county that has peaked at about 44,000 people in

00:04:05.880 1960 and has been shrinking ever since. So this is a good thing for this corner of the state.

00:04:11.340 The numbers, 5,000 to 6,000 construction jobs while it's being built, 1,750 permanent jobs

00:04:19.480 when it's running, plus about 350 at the mine in Minnesota that feeds it.

00:04:24.660 Now, that's a lot of great news.

00:04:27.060 Seven and a half million tons of steel a year at first, 10 million at full speed.

00:04:33.560 The White House says that's roughly a tenth of everything America made last year.

00:04:38.880 Out of one mine, steel is coming back to America.

00:04:43.860 Now, the ore is going to come out of the ground in Minnesota,

00:04:46.660 and then it's going to ride the rails south and it becomes steel in iowa including steel the

00:04:52.500 administration says will meet military standards so we're now i see i jason remember we talked

00:04:59.220 about this the other day that i think the president sees something that nobody else is

00:05:03.140 seeing and nobody's talking about it why would he say that including steel that meets military

00:05:09.580 standards. I think the president is seeing things coming down the pike. Okay. So mine to mill,

00:05:19.040 it will never leave the country. Now, who owns it? The name on the door is Mesabi,

00:05:27.860 Mesabi Metallics. It's a Minnesota company. The name behind the door is the SR Group.

00:05:34.600 It's a family conglomerate from India, founded in 1969 by two brothers named Ruia.

00:05:42.860 Now, the Commerce Secretary says SR is going to finance the steel plant and no direct, the keyword direct, no direct federal money will go into it.

00:05:53.100 But the mine is a different matter.

00:05:54.960 The Export-Import Bank, which is your government, is lending it $770 million.

00:06:03.460 could go as high as $10 billion.

00:06:08.700 Okay, $770 million to $10 billion.

00:06:13.060 That's quite a spread.

00:06:14.160 Anyway, Iowa lawmakers have been told they may be called back

00:06:18.180 to approve tax breaks to make this thing happen.

00:06:20.940 SR has been on the iron range before.

00:06:23.860 It broke ground on that same mine in Minnesota in 2008,

00:06:27.940 promised to finish it in 2013.

00:06:30.460 In 2016, its Minnesota company went bankrupt, owing more than a billion dollars.

00:06:36.340 Local contractors were left holding the unpaid invoices.

00:06:40.000 The state was out about $65 million in road and infrastructure money.

00:06:43.700 Its own bankrupt subsidiary sued the parent company, accusing it of siphoning off the project's funds.

00:06:50.440 It's an accusation. It's not a verdict.

00:06:52.220 We don't really know for sure because, I mean, everything is corrupt in Minnesota.

00:06:55.560 How do we know?

00:06:56.100 I don't want to get in bed with a corrupt company, but apparently there's enough out there that says that that didn't happen.

00:07:03.580 I don't know.

00:07:04.460 Minnesota has spent years trying to keep SR out.

00:07:09.160 SR bought its way back in, and then this month it actually delivered.

00:07:14.820 They bought themselves back in.

00:07:16.320 They went back into the mine, and on September 17th, they blasted loose 1.3 million tons of rock

00:07:23.440 and produce the first iron concentrate with pellets due next month.

00:07:29.780 So they're mining, mining, mining, mining, mining, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing,

00:07:34.000 nothing to go out of business, bankruptcy, they come back,

00:07:37.400 they blow up some rock, and they find the first iron ore.

00:07:41.720 So this is the first iron ore mine and pellet plant in America in 50 years.

00:07:47.380 So both things here are true.

00:07:50.600 Got to hold two things in one hand.

00:07:52.520 The guy's got to be able to walk and chew gum.

00:07:54.360 So two things are true.

00:07:55.140 The same people who left the range holding the bill came back and got it running.

00:08:01.900 So is this a big story?

00:08:03.760 Yes.

00:08:04.480 Huge story.

00:08:06.040 Caveat, if it gets built.

00:08:09.160 The first steal is 2030 after the next presidential election.

00:08:14.260 This announcement came 36 days before the election,

00:08:17.860 with IR Republicans in tight races standing around the desk.

00:08:22.280 $95 billion in economic activity is the White House's own estimate spread over a decade.

00:08:29.060 An announcement is not a mill, just ask Minnesota.

00:08:32.960 The plant exists because of a 50% tariff on foreign steel.

00:08:38.940 The administration says so itself.

00:08:41.040 If that tariff is lifted, then what happens to this mill?

00:08:46.580 The tariff is also paid for by every American who buys a washing machine, a pickup, or a steel beam.

00:08:54.100 And for 40 years, our side said government couldn't pick winners.

00:08:58.340 But the government bank, you know, lending three quarters of a billion dollars to one company, I think is picking a winner here.

00:09:04.620 But maybe it's a good one, but let's at least call it what it is.

00:09:08.020 So here's why it matters.

00:09:10.100 This matters because a country that can't make steel can't build a ship, can't build a tank, can't build a bridge or a power plant without asking somebody's permission and waiting for it to get loaded onto a boat and sent here.

00:09:26.240 That's what a steel town is.

00:09:29.240 It's a permission slip to build what you need to build.

00:09:32.880 A steel town is a place where the mill whistles, the whistle sets the clock.

00:09:39.100 The mill sponsors the Little League.

00:09:41.400 The son follows the father through the same gate.

00:09:44.940 A man with a high school diploma buys a house, raises four kids,

00:09:48.940 takes a week at the lake, a homestead.

00:09:51.780 Pennsylvania, just outside of Pittsburgh, employed 15,000 people during the war.

00:09:57.580 The last of it shut down in 1986, and they tore it down, built a shopping center there.

00:10:02.340 They left a row of 12 brick smokestacks standing between the parking lots.

00:10:07.980 People park under them now to buy shoes.

00:10:12.880 We have to have steel mills.

00:10:15.520 The year before that, 1985, there was a mine called Butler.

00:10:21.700 It closed in Minnesota.

00:10:24.580 Same ground where they set off that blast this month.

00:10:27.200 We have literally been here before on that very range.

00:10:30.660 it was 1890 that a family of timber cruisers out of Duluth brothers and nephews named Merritt

00:10:40.560 had crews digging test pits on a low ridge most prospectors had passed over their father believed

00:10:48.500 for years that there was iron up there he was right the crew hit a soft red ore right under

00:10:54.900 the surface you didn't need to dig a tunnel you could scoop it out with a steam shovel

00:10:59.760 They had found the greatest iron range in America.

00:11:03.460 And they would go down in history as seven iron men.

00:11:07.740 But ore in the ground is worth nothing until it moves.

00:11:11.200 So they built a railroad to the lake.

00:11:13.980 To build it, they borrowed.

00:11:15.720 The man they went to was John D. Rockefeller.

00:11:18.820 Then came the panic of 1893.

00:11:21.000 The banks failed.

00:11:21.780 Loans came due.

00:11:22.560 The merits couldn't pay.

00:11:23.500 And by early 1894, the mines, the railroad, the ore docks belonged to John D. Rockefeller.

00:11:30.940 They sued him for fraud and won.

00:11:33.680 They lost on appeal because he had more money.

00:11:36.180 They ran out of money and they settled.

00:11:38.300 A few years later, Rockefeller sold the whole thing to a brand new company.

00:11:41.860 That company, U.S. Steel.

00:11:45.800 But the merits found the ore that built America's steel century.

00:11:50.280 And they died without the fortune.

00:11:53.500 But here's where it all landed.

00:11:55.800 U.S. Steel, the company built on the Merritt's ore, was bought last year by Nippon Steel of Japan.

00:12:03.800 The newest mine on that same range is owned from India.

00:12:09.180 Over 130 years, the money has come from Cleveland to New York to Tokyo to Mumbai.

00:12:16.620 The ore hasn't even moved, but neither did the people who dug it.

00:12:21.500 the range has taught the same lesson for a century

00:12:25.380 the paper changes hands every generation

00:12:29.200 the men who find the treasure rarely keep it

00:12:33.120 what stays is the ore, the river, the railroad

00:12:37.620 and the people who show up at 6 o'clock in the morning every morning

00:12:40.980 whose name is on the deed matters less than where the furnace sits

00:12:45.800 and whose hands are running the furnace

00:12:48.060 so let's watch this one the right way

00:12:50.460 Don't watch the Oval Office on this one.

00:12:53.480 Watch Lee County.

00:12:54.980 Watch for dirt moving.

00:12:57.080 Watch whether the local contractors get paid on time this time.

00:13:01.680 Watch what Iowa gives away in that special session and see what it gets back in writing.

00:13:07.360 Because if it does get built, this is a huge thing for America.

00:13:14.240 And for one small reason, there's an eighth grader in Fort Madison right now who will walk through that gate someday.

00:13:21.420 His grandfather walked through the factories and watched those factories leave.

00:13:26.760 He may get to watch one come home again.

00:13:30.680 Rockefeller got the range.

00:13:32.700 Japan got the U.S. steel.

00:13:34.820 India now has the mine. 1.00

00:13:36.280 The smokestacks are still standing in homestead, 0.96

00:13:39.060 and somebody in Iowa may get to light a new furnace.

00:13:42.740 Money doesn't have a hometown, but you do.

00:13:47.540 It's time America builds like it.

00:13:51.460 That's what yesterday's announcement means.

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00:15:12.960 Right now, you're paying more, and so are the companies, the analysts say, two reasons.

00:15:19.180 The energy shock from the Iran war and from the Ukrainian war, and a government that owes more money every single day.

00:15:30.960 That's why your interest rate is going up.

00:15:32.940 That's why companies' interest rates are going up.

00:15:35.660 Now, who is borrowing more money now than anybody in America besides the federal government?

00:15:42.320 Who's borrowing the most amount of money?

00:15:46.200 It's a little staggering when you look at the numbers.

00:15:48.380 But again, you only find this out in the math part of the program.

00:15:51.560 It's almost over.

00:15:53.400 The people who are borrowing more money than anybody else

00:15:56.860 are the people building artificial intelligence.

00:15:58.860 And CNBC laid this out over the weekend.

00:16:03.100 SoftBank just borrowed $11 billion in junk bonds,

00:16:08.200 paying as much as 9.75%.

00:16:12.140 Wait, what?

00:16:15.940 Oracle's interest bill for one quarter jumped 55%.

00:16:20.700 Their interest is now $1.4 billion.

00:16:25.460 JP Morgan expects $4 trillion of AI debt to be issued between now and 2030.

00:16:32.620 That's not what they've already.

00:16:33.980 It's $4 trillion between now and 2030.

00:16:39.160 $4 trillion.

00:16:39.940 That's a tenth of our national debt borrowed and just in time as the price of borrowing is climbing.

00:16:51.740 This is like building your dream house with an adjustable rate mortgage,

00:16:57.320 and the rate just keeps being adjusted, and it's always up.

00:17:02.740 How long would that last?

00:17:06.180 CoreWeave, this is one of the biggest data center landlords in the country,

00:17:09.860 tells its investors that every one-point rise in interest rates

00:17:13.780 cost it another $30 million a year.

00:17:21.360 Okay, that's one.

00:17:24.720 Then last week, Brookings put a price of the whole thing.

00:17:28.200 $10.3 trillion for America's AI build-out between 2025 and 2032.

00:17:34.980 $10.3 trillion.

00:17:38.480 What is the debt and the interest on that?

00:17:41.880 Now, you measure that against the size of the economy.

00:17:45.020 That is bigger than the canals.

00:17:47.340 That's bigger than electrifying the entire country.

00:17:50.140 That's bigger than the interstate highway system.

00:17:53.120 That's bigger than the railroads.

00:17:55.220 the risk the paper says is moving off the books moving moving the books of big companies

00:18:05.200 into places that you can't see oh i love it when they do this i love it when nobody makes it

00:18:13.640 transparent so now that 10 trillion dollars is slowly being moved into private loans

00:18:20.940 special purpose companies, and securitized debt.

00:18:27.500 Oh, oh, and then one more.

00:18:31.980 Loan guarantees.

00:18:35.060 Now, let's play a little game.

00:18:42.200 Who guarantees a loan in the trillion dollar range?

00:18:49.180 Come on.

00:18:50.940 Come on.

00:18:54.300 It's not Bill Gates.

00:18:56.900 It's not Elon Musk.

00:18:59.860 Two weeks ago, the president posted that there is a sick conspiracy going on against AI and data centers.

00:19:06.640 And the only one that is happy about it is China. 0.51

00:19:09.840 Then he posted conspiracy theorists, treasonous traitors and leakers beware.

00:19:16.080 Two days later, the Justice Department put out a reminder that people acting for a foreign power have to register before they stage public demonstrations.

00:19:25.220 I want all of the people that are acting for a foreign power, I do want them in trouble with the government. 0.73

00:19:32.000 I do. 0.99

00:19:34.200 But that's not everybody.

00:19:36.720 Gallup says 71% of Americans now don't want a data center in their own town.

00:19:42.240 You put those together.

00:19:43.820 This is the biggest bet in not American history, in human history.

00:19:50.700 This, let me say it again, the biggest bet in all of human history, financed with borrowed money.

00:20:01.440 And money is getting more expensive every quarter.

00:20:06.740 and the risk is sliding into places no one can really see it.

00:20:15.540 And the people who are asking questions about this are being called traitors.

00:20:23.440 When a bet is too big to fail and too sacred to question,

00:20:27.440 there's only one place the bill can go.

00:20:30.860 One place.

00:20:33.900 Where do you think it's going?

00:20:36.740 i hate to say we've been here before during the civil war a philadelphia banker named jay cook

00:20:45.080 did something new he sold the war to ordinary people not to the big banks to farmers and

00:20:51.060 shopkeepers and widows he sent agents all across the north and sold more than a billion and a half

00:20:56.800 dollars of war bonds buying one was patriotic it helped save the union after the war cook found his

00:21:03.520 next great national project, the Northern Pacific Railroad, a railroad from Lake Superior to the

00:21:10.380 Pacific, through country mostly empty of people who would never ride it. Congress had handed it

00:21:18.100 tens of millions of acres of land. Cook turned that same machine that sold the war onto the

00:21:24.640 same people and sold them the railroad. He had given generously to President Grant's re-election.

00:21:30.260 He was the most trusted money man in America.

00:21:35.180 And the railroad, everybody knew, everybody agreed, that was the future.

00:21:38.260 The future, that's the future, right?

00:21:40.700 Yeah, not so much.

00:21:42.400 The financing was wrong.

00:21:44.500 On September 18th, 1873, days after sitting down with President Grant,

00:21:49.140 J. Cook and company closed its doors.

00:21:53.720 Two days later, for the first time in its history,

00:21:56.000 the New York Stock Exchange shut down for 10 days.

00:22:00.260 What followed lasted more than five years.

00:22:03.420 18,000 businesses failed.

00:22:06.340 The railroad, it got built years later by other people.

00:22:11.080 You know, it was built on the ruins.

00:22:14.240 Cook lost his fortune, but the people who paid the longest were the farmers and the widows who had trusted him.

00:22:23.060 Okay, let me play the other side here for a second. 0.94

00:22:25.860 The race with China is real. 0.97

00:22:28.160 I've said it on the program a million times. 0.99

00:22:29.740 If we don't build the power and the data centers, we lose.

00:22:33.920 And I still believe this.

00:22:36.100 Foreign money is stirring up opposition to American infrastructure.

00:22:39.820 That's not a fantasy either.

00:22:41.700 A Senate intelligence chairperson has come in and called for an investigation into exactly that this summer.

00:22:47.920 And you're going to find that most of this stuff is financed by China.

00:22:52.060 And to be accurate, that Justice Department, that Justice Department notice, doesn't name data center critics.

00:23:01.420 It applies only to people taking orders from foreign governments.

00:23:05.560 The man who wrote the Brookings paper doesn't say a crash is coming.

00:23:10.420 He says, measure it now while there is still time.

00:23:14.780 So all of this stuff is true.

00:23:16.660 You know, we have spent 15 years on our side saying that when, you know, banks get too big to fail, the taxpayer gets stuck and it's wrong.

00:23:26.940 We were right.

00:23:28.660 We said when government and industry moves as one, that's fascism and the little guy loses and we are right.

00:23:36.460 But it doesn't stop being true because our president and our industry say that we have to come together. 0.91

00:23:48.000 A woman in Ohio that doesn't want a data center next to her house is not a Chinese agent. 0.54

00:23:53.020 She's a citizen. 0.98

00:23:54.060 She might be wrong.

00:23:55.240 She might be right.

00:23:56.300 But she's definitely not a traitor.

00:23:59.000 I personally want these things built.

00:24:00.960 And I want to be allowed to ask, who's holding the debt?

00:24:10.360 These are not opposites.

00:24:12.940 This is what a free country sounds like.

00:24:16.320 It sounds like a group of people asking questions.

00:24:21.420 That's it.

00:24:23.320 Ask questions.

00:24:26.320 Rising rates are the market doing its job.

00:24:29.420 And here's what the market is saying.

00:24:31.920 This is risky.

00:24:34.280 Pay me for it.

00:24:35.540 This is very risky.

00:24:37.860 That's honest.

00:24:39.560 It's the one voice in the story nobody can call a traitor.

00:24:43.120 The danger is not the price.

00:24:45.220 The danger is somebody in Washington deciding the price is too inconvenient

00:24:50.380 and quietly putting your name on the loan.

00:24:56.320 Now, it hasn't happened yet, but there's still time.

00:25:00.960 So here's the word I want you to watch out for, guarantee, a loan guarantee.

00:25:10.720 The day any bill, any agency, any president, any politician, any company, anyone says we

00:25:19.080 need to put the federal government behind AI debt, the bet stops being theirs and starts

00:25:25.460 being yours.

00:25:27.480 I recommend you call your congressman before that day ever comes, not after.

00:25:32.960 Because when it happens, it's going to happen fast.

00:25:35.940 We're going to loan guarantee all of this AI.

00:25:38.280 We're going to make sure that we, because this is a national imperative.

00:25:42.280 No, no, no, no.

00:25:48.620 I'm not going to give you special rights to create something that can kill us all

00:25:54.540 and then hold you not responsible

00:25:57.600 because it was your AI machine or agents that did it.

00:26:01.060 No, you built it.

00:26:03.460 You're responsible.

00:26:05.500 I'm not gonna guarantee your loans.

00:26:08.520 You're the one that says we have to have it.

00:26:11.280 We gotta do it.

00:26:12.100 We gotta do it now.

00:26:13.100 We gotta do it this big.

00:26:15.320 It's gonna change the world.

00:26:17.220 Well, then great, that's your bet

00:26:20.300 because I guarantee you,

00:26:22.240 You're not going to share the wealth with all of us.

00:26:25.820 Why should we share?

00:26:27.020 That is the free market.

00:26:28.980 I share the risk, then I get some of the reward.

00:26:32.740 Well, you're going to.

00:26:33.440 It's going to cure cancer.

00:26:34.520 Or it's going to kill us, one of the two.

00:26:37.020 You haven't decided yet.

00:26:41.520 I want you to ask one question of your congressman.

00:26:45.480 And I want you to send a clear message to everybody in Washington.

00:26:49.880 Ask this question.

00:26:50.560 If it goes wrong, who pays?

00:26:53.160 If the answer is fuzzy, so is the plan, and it will end up being on your shoulders.

00:26:58.960 And then at your own kitchen table, don't borrow against the future just because everybody says it's coming.

00:27:06.660 Jay Cook was right about the future.

00:27:08.940 He was early, and he was borrowing, and that's all it takes.

00:27:13.700 Any bet you're not allowed to question is a bet you've already been made to pay for.

00:27:20.340 The railroad got built.

00:27:22.100 The future does come.

00:27:24.040 The only question in 1873, and the only question now, is who pays for getting there too fast?

00:27:36.120 It's not going to be me.

00:27:37.660 It's not going to be you.

00:27:38.560 But I guarantee it will be the minute they start talking about loan guarantees.

00:27:46.380 And that's coming.

00:27:47.200 speak out about it now all right more in just a second

00:27:52.240 this is the best of the glenn beck program and we really want to thank you for listening

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00:29:14.160 And we really want to thank you for listening.

00:29:20.960 Yesterday, I told you the story of Donald Johnson.

00:29:23.960 He's an 81-year-old guy who's working to deliver luggage when, you know, the airline, you know, loses your luggage.

00:29:31.980 And they're like, we'll deliver it to you.

00:29:34.080 They've hired Don Johnson.

00:29:35.820 And he is, you know, your typical 81-year-old guy.

00:29:38.700 He's not bitching and complaining at all.

00:29:41.140 When asked, why did you take this job?

00:29:44.020 why do you have this job at 81 hauling heavy luggage upstairs he's like they're the only

00:29:49.000 people that would hire me and he's fine with it he's fine with it he's not complaining

00:29:52.420 and he's doing it to cover his wife's cancer bills um and um there was a a fundraiser

00:30:01.380 and they did three quarters of a million dollars to help him be able to retire pay his wife's

00:30:07.760 cancer bills and let the guy retire so he can be together with his wife and just spend all

00:30:13.080 his time with his wife. Well, then there was a problem. The original video that was posted

00:30:19.460 was posted from a neighbor called Aaron. But Aaron is a name the daughter and the neighbor made up

00:30:29.420 because the neighbor is like, I don't want my name. I don't want my name on this because you

00:30:33.340 know what it's like to be a social media person. They're coming after you. So what happened was

00:30:39.260 GoFundMe, found out that that was a fake name, and then canceled it. And so all of that money

00:30:44.560 was returned. And there are media outlets that are trying to make these people look like they're

00:30:51.000 bad guys. They are not. This is an 81-year-old guy who is delivering luggage to pay for his wife's

00:30:59.380 cancer treatment. Amy Johnson, his daughter, and Donald Johnson, the 81-year-old baggage delivery

00:31:06.620 boy is on with us now amy don how are you glenn you're gonna make me cry right it's an honor

00:31:14.920 it's my honor to have you on sir you're a remarkable man i just love your story i don't

00:31:22.040 know if you heard me talk about your story yesterday but i just i love your story the

00:31:27.100 way you are just it just has to be done you're not complaining you're not that doesn't exist

00:31:34.180 anymore you know that don don't you you know people have asked me 81 years old they keep

00:31:41.000 saying that i said it doesn't matter how old i am there's a job to be done

00:31:45.020 god i love you you're gonna make me cry this is you're the kind of american i really miss um

00:31:54.620 so amy yes did i get the story of why um gofundme canceled this do i have that right

00:32:02.940 You had that 100% correct, Glenn. So yes, that is what happened. It was absolutely devastating for them. And it's been a rough road the last couple of days, but we've had people like you and other just really kind people out there who are still supporting us. So it's made it easier.

00:32:24.120 I would like to say there are a lot of comments on our second fundraiser, Give, Send, Go, that are saying negative things about GoFundMe, and they're not happy about what happened, and they're trying to make sure that we get the money we need.

00:32:48.260 And I really appreciate all those people.

00:32:50.860 Yes, thank you.

00:32:51.800 well you can go to give send go dot uh com slash help don retire

00:32:58.560 give you time to write that down give send go dot com slash help don retire um so far you've

00:33:09.240 got about 75 000 so you're a tenth of what you were what is the is is the media dogpiling i've

00:33:16.260 heard that and i haven't read anything because i don't care um but i do want to know are they

00:33:23.500 dog piling on you guys are some media coming out trying to make you look bad they are absolutely

00:33:30.280 dog piling on us it's it's been rough um there was a woman who had interviewed my parents she's

00:33:37.100 with fox 4 um and she has basically switched the whole narrative about um an investigation piece

00:33:44.700 and just trying to really drag me through the mud and it's not focusing on my parents which

00:33:51.000 makes it really hard because that was what everything was originally about so I you know

00:33:56.120 I want to say that I'm sorry that I used a display name that wasn't the right name but

00:34:00.160 at the end of the day it's hurting my parents and I know a lot of people out there really

00:34:04.720 fell in love with them and they're good people so I'm okay with the dog pile with me but I'm

00:34:11.360 just hopeful that we're able to get back to where we were um because it really meant a lot for them

00:34:16.320 and it was life's changing yes amy can i tell you something you don't ever have to apologize for for

00:34:22.940 not you know for the neighbor saying i don't want to put my name on it and you guys coming up with

00:34:27.340 the name aaron you are proof right now of why she didn't want to put her name on it why you didn't

00:34:34.740 want to put your name on it because the media trashes people all the time and it's despicable

00:34:41.440 it's despicable i i want everyone in the audience to go to give send go.com slash help don retire

00:34:49.400 i want you to pass this to all of your friends um you know and because this is i mean there

00:34:56.100 don tell me about your wife let me just do that tell me about your wife how long have you guys

00:35:02.500 been married uh well let me first say i came out of the army in august of 68 and i swore to myself

00:35:12.020 i wouldn't get married till i was 30 years old at least i was 22 uh six months later i was married

00:35:19.840 to this wonderful woman and it was love at first sight honestly uh we met through a mutual friend

00:35:27.680 and i i was just smitten she's beautiful she's gentle she's everything a man would want

00:35:36.120 in a wife and uh we've been married 57 years uh and want to make it 75 or 100 years if we came

00:35:45.240 so uh she's my lifelong companion she's going through a hard time um cancer is a struggle

00:35:56.140 and she's exhausted much of the time

00:36:00.320 so I'm the guy that goes up and down the stairs to get her food

00:36:04.500 and drinks and things like that and just be there for her

00:36:08.420 and help her. She's brave

00:36:11.900 she's putting up a strong fight

00:36:14.920 pancreatic cancer is called the silent killer and we're not going to have 0.92

00:36:20.600 any of that.

00:36:26.140 how are you holding up you know if making sure that she's okay and still working as much as

00:36:37.460 you're working how long are your days well i i'm not able to work every day right now i'm not

00:36:46.260 working because the car broke down we put so many miles on that car i have and uh but when i'm

00:36:54.900 working uh like i worked for one company for uh years and uh that was a 14 hour day sometimes

00:37:04.520 and uh driving three to four hundred miles in a day uh that's exhausting for sure and you get

00:37:12.640 home at 10 11 o'clock at night and get up early and start it again but um it's something i just

00:37:20.660 fell in the groove for

00:37:23.440 and just do it

00:37:25.200 without thinking

00:37:26.980 just do my job

00:37:28.520 so

00:37:29.460 that's it

00:37:32.120 okay

00:37:34.800 I want to keep up with you guys

00:37:39.420 this week and see what is

00:37:41.060 happening Don please tell your

00:37:43.480 wife that we're praying 1.00

00:37:45.280 I will

00:37:47.440 we want to thank you glenn we're such big fans of you um so thank you for having us on

00:37:57.860 you're welcome uh

00:38:00.740 i've been

00:38:07.880 i've been married to my wife

00:38:13.540 only for 26 years and uh i love my wife more than the day i married her

00:38:27.460 and i can't imagine we had a a small cancer scare with her a few years ago

00:38:35.100 and uh and i thought i can't i can't you know she's my whole life

00:38:43.740 and i can't imagine being together for as long as you have and how you feel so we're praying for

00:38:52.540 both of you we're playing for all of you and and amy we're praying for you just to be able to have

00:38:56.680 the endurance to stand the onslaught of this evil media that we happen to see all the time

00:39:03.060 um god bless you both we'll talk again soon thank you thank you thank you here's what i would like

00:39:12.660 you to do as an audience you are the most amazing audience in the world i say this

00:39:18.980 all the time

00:39:22.100 i don't think there has been a more charitable group of people in a commercial audience ever

00:39:30.300 Ever. I have seen you do remarkable things. I have seen, do you know we're in our,

00:39:40.660 do you know we're in Armenia? Today, we have been rescuing Christians out of Armenia because 0.99

00:39:52.780 Armenia, the Muslims closed off a corridor 0.99

00:39:56.980 that guaranteed the Christians' safety. 1.00

00:40:00.200 And they started dismantling all of the things 0.99

00:40:04.180 that kept these Armenian Christians... 1.00

00:40:05.940 These are the first Christians in the world. 1.00

00:40:09.760 And we have been moving them. 0.99

00:40:11.320 We have been protecting them.

00:40:19.100 And every dollar is coming from this audience

00:40:21.340 when you give to Mercury One.

00:40:23.000 Every dollar is doing that.

00:40:24.560 You don't have any idea

00:40:25.840 how much of a difference you make.

00:40:30.160 I know there's somebody

00:40:31.460 who has a car dealership

00:40:32.840 somewhere in this audience.

00:40:42.840 Will you donate a car?

00:40:47.120 Will you donate a car?

00:40:51.340 I tell you what, I will do commercials for you.

00:40:55.740 I'll cut a couple of commercials for you,

00:40:58.460 for your TV or for radio, whatever,

00:41:00.880 if you supply the car.

00:41:07.740 Can you help him

00:41:11.300 not have to worry about anything else

00:41:16.760 by going up and down those stairs

00:41:18.940 with a tray of food for his wife?

00:41:21.340 givesendgo.com

00:41:25.480 slash help don retire

00:41:27.420 givesendgo.com

00:41:29.880 slash help don

00:41:31.480 retire

00:41:32.480 you can 0.71

00:41:34.720 write to us

00:41:36.840 Ricky how do they get a hold of us if somebody wants to

00:41:39.600 do something with a car I know we have

00:41:41.520 car dealerships all throughout

00:41:43.100 support at glennbeck.com

00:41:44.160 support at glennbeck.com

00:41:47.040 okay you let us know

00:41:49.160 you let us know

00:41:52.140 All right, back in just a second.

00:41:59.300 Gosh.

00:42:03.540 I need to drink more water.

00:42:05.960 I think I need an IV bag every day I do these shows.

00:42:10.080 But I tell you, they're not sad.

00:42:13.520 These aren't sad.

00:42:18.920 I want to be Don when I grow up.

00:42:21.140 so great it's just so great life is so great so many good people and so many good things are

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