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Glenn and his partner were arrested for the crime of opening a gym in NJ. Rob Smith joins us to talk about the events leading up to the incident, the aftermath, and the aftermath of the Governor's order to shut down the gym.
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welcome to the podcast uh glenn starts the show today with a little bit about preserving history
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one of the jersey uh gym owners who has been arrested for the crime of opening his business
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seems very strange but that's where we are today we go through the bar hearing yesterday what a
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disaster uh get through all the details of that rob smith joins us keith sullivan joins us as well
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uh this is the gym that uh went up against the new jersey uh governor and was defying the shutdown
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order when we first talked to him uh it was when he first got into this uh squabble and the police
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at first said they're not going to do anything then they started doing things he has bent over backwards
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to make sure that everybody is safe um and now we're now they've been arrested uh over this
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ian's with us now hi ian hi glenn good morning welcome back to the uh program so tell me what
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the latest is and what you guys are facing uh okay so last time we spoke i think we were about midway
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through the week that we uh we had first opened in may um and like you said at first the police weren't
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doing anything and then governor murphy put the screws to them and and um threatened to withdraw
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funding from the from the department if they didn't hand out citations so we were getting hit
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with citation after citation uh that week my partner and i got 12 in total um and then the health
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department was then weaponized against us and eventually by the end of the week governor murphy got
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uh judge robert loogie uh who is sort of his right hand man and signs off on anything that he wants
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uh to shut us down via a court order and had our locks physically changed on us by the end of the
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week um we worked through the court system and um it took about a little over a month to get them
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opened uh and then we resumed operations uh outside and then eventually inside on july 4th
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uh july 4th we said we had we had enough of sort of dragging the entire gym outside and we decided
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you know what better day to get arrested than independence day um so that that didn't come for
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almost another two two weeks and on uh monday morning this week um after we lost a contempt of
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court case uh last friday um in which the governor requested that the judge grant him uh extraordinary
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measures to stop us um my partner and i had removed the doors from the building uh so that they could not
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physically change our locks we had two weeks worth of clothing and we were prepared to stay inside for
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as long as possible until we were forcibly removed uh we were inside for four days and come monday
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morning at 5 10 uh in in the a.m um the county sheriffs uh came in with the county prosecutor and had
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us forcibly removed handcuffed arrested uh and uh booked while uh governor murphy then constructed a
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a plywood barrier over where our doors used to be uh we were charged with three charges they are
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they're extremely petty charges they're fourth degree obstruction uh fourth degree disorderly persons
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and uh a uh a violation of an emergency powers act which is such an archaic statute that uh my
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partner and i had a good laugh as we were sitting in the holding cell because the police were trying
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to put it into the computer um and it's such an archaic statute that the computer didn't even
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recognize what it was so they had to write it manually so so what are you guys really facing now
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ian um actually today we have um we have our hearing on those first 12 charges um so uh i guess we'll
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kind of see what what comes with that you know how the judges want to handle that um oddly enough we
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are the only cases in the entire state that have not been dismissed by the attorney general um all of
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the cases that that went with the um the george floyd protests uh for rioting and and protesting all
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got dismissed um however uh frank and i's uh charges have remained firm and they will not be dropping
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them they're looking to prosecute us um and i guess we'll see how that turns out today uh and then on top
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of that we got three new charges each on monday um so we'll see how that turns out it's probably going
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to be a lot of fines um potential jail time i guess if if he wants to go and and and do that um it is
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in it is in the you know the statute that we could potentially face some jail time for it but i guess
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we'll see well you want to talk about fairness and equality um when you've got one group of people
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treated one way and another uh treated the way you're treated uh there is no such thing as real
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justice we are in the land of social justice now um so uh i mean you're you're facing possible jail
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time nobody wants to go to jail why are you doing this um you know i i said it on tucker cross and
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the other night you know i'm not afraid of of tyrants um you can threaten me with jail time you can
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threaten me with financial ruin um but what i'm what i'm standing for is is what i believe in my heart
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and i think what most americans believe to be right um these shutdowns are unconstitutional um they
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are very clearly a power grab and very clear clearly a political play um by certain individuals
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in politics um and i won't stand for it it won't ruin my life um to to use me as fodder in a political
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war um i'll stand up to that any day of the week regardless of the consequences um because that
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that just doesn't scare me it scares most people is it do you think that's why they're coming after
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you so hard is you've got to shut down anybody who shows no fear absolutely absolutely i think i think
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that the longer um the longer that people uh like myself uh and my partner because we are we're not the
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lonely ones although we may be few and far between um the longer that people like us stand up the more
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it um it it builds the confidence and removes the fear from other people and i think that they are
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desperate to shut that down because every day that i speak and every day that people discover my social
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media and see what's happening to me and the fact that we just keep going it it it weakens their
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their hold uh over the you know the american psyche they have this this fear um that that grips most
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people um and i think that they rely heavily on that fear and every day that i keep talking um
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they're losing that um so i think they are in a mad dash to shut us up you had a lot of people from
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the community in fact not just your community from all over america that came to support tell me
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about the people who are showing up and have shown up we have met um so many amazing people through all
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this um people from all walks of life um people from all ends of the political spectrum too um which
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which i thought was was interesting you know we've had uh veterans cops firefighters people that serve
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the community and serve their country you know we've had people that that kind of fall more on the left
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you know at least on the moderate side of the left come out and show us support because in their
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hearts they know what's happening is wrong too um so the the range of support has been absolutely
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incredible you know we get phone calls every day uh from people that um that just want to call and
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and and figure out how they can help or or say a kind word or tell us that they are behind us um
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and it's been it's been nothing short of phenomenal and it's it's given us the strength to continue
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because if we had stood up and and there was nobody uh supporting us it's likely we would have
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crumbled by now but but the fact that there are so many people that are invigorated by what we are
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doing um gives us that strength to keep going uh no matter what the consequences are
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do you ever have moments where you think uh what am i doing um no because this is this is what's right
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and um you know if this is this this fight came to frank and i we didn't we didn't ask for this this
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came on our doorstep uh and we decided that we were going to step up to the plate and when we did
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um you know we made a promise to each other that we were going to see it through um and that that this
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was this was going to be our fight so um you know it's a little crazy sometimes i it's hard to remember
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what life was like uh five months ago before this all started um and even you know 72 days ago um
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before this really started when we reopened um but i wouldn't i would never take it back and you know
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you give me the opportunity to change my mind a hundred times and i'm going to say no because
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we're determined to to make a change and to make an impact and to take a stand against what is clearly
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wrong you know there's you can't justify what you're doing um governor murphy you can't um it's wrong
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and he's clearly made this personal at this point um and the longer that this goes on i think the
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you're out of jail obviously now um yes uh and are the doors still plywood over they are still
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covered in plywood yes but uh my partner and i took the day off on monday uh to get some sort of
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much much needed rest and recharge our batteries physically emotionally you know um
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so uh yesterday we had a couple meetings and and we have we have some plans uh that were that
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aren't quite finalized yet but i think on uh um on saturday um we're we're gonna um surprise murphy
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with with yet another um thorn in his uh in his side i don't think he's gonna be too happy with us
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once again but you know oh well and when is that um most likely saturday we go we're just kind of
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uh ironing out the details uh legally and and logistically um but on saturday i'll probably
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i'll probably announce it i'll be speaking at a rally in trenton um on thursday and i'll probably
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uh i'll probably announce it then and i'll put an announcement on my social media um about what's
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going to happen and when um but yeah he's uh we haven't we have we're not we're not out of the
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like yeah a little a little bit of plywood isn't going to stop us you know if any if anybody's
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ever seen for you uh the kind of people that that work out in the gym um that i own um a little
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little uh bob the builder setup of plywood is not going to stop us from uh from opening our
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good for you ian um appreciate your spirit and i appreciate the fact that you are doing all of
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this legally you're not setting things on fire you're not being like the left is um you are you
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are just exercising your god-given rights ian smith thank you so much
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you're listening to the best of the glenn beck program
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one of the most agonizing congressional inquiries i've ever had to suffer through and that is actually
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saying a lot because they all suck but for hours one by one democrats were grilling bill barr
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but they decided they didn't want to hear any of his answers they just wanted to get it out on the
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record that they despise him as a as an attorney general and they descended on him like a pack of
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wild rabid dogs listen to this what the my time yeah i'm answering your question you gotta let
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him answer claiming my time on february 10th sir on february 10th i direct reclaiming my time sir
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reclaiming my time and i know you don't want to answer you are wrong mr now that was he's found
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the investigation had been initiated properly he said he found reclaiming my time without political
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bias he said and in april reclaiming my time reclaiming my time reclaiming my time reclaiming my
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time without without any remedy i'm reclaiming my time when people resist law enforcement they're not
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peaceful claiming my time i'm surprised at your lack of respect gentlemen oh my god time i don't want
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the time i just want i want the attorney general to be able to have enough time to respond to
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accusations and questions ask him and you guys not cut him off what you want is irrelevant
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that's what it was like the back and forth between the members of the judiciary committee
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exploded into outright ridiculousness yesterday yields back i would remind mr jordan mr biggs and
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mr johnson to stop violating the rules of the committee to stop violating the safety of the
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members of the committee to stop um holding themselves out as not caring by refusing to wear
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their masks is it permissible to drink it is not permissible not enough to drink we can't drink
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coffee now that's what they were arguing about yesterday and by the way if you didn't see the
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video that's that's nadler saying that with his mask dangling off his chin the democrats came to argue
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they didn't care to hear anything from the attorney general and when their arguments clearly lacked any
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real substance they yelled and screamed about coffee if you thought what happened to brett kavanaugh was
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bad the assault on bar was it set a new low yesterday jim jordan's opening statement ended with a very long
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video showing the brutality of some of the riots americans are not stupid we know what's going on in
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places like portland i hate to even gratify what was done yesterday with more air time but here's a
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small snippet of what bill barr had to endure yesterday neutral criteria but you you can't
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tell me whether you discussed no i'm not going to discuss what i discussed with you commit today
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that the department will not use federal law enforcement as a prop in the president's
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re-election campaign we are not i just want to close with this thought you really can't hide behind
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legal fictions this time mr bar it's all out in the open where the people can see what you are doing
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for themselves the president wants footage for his campaign ads and you appear to be serving it up
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to him as ordered in most of these cities the protests had begun to wind down before you marched
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in and confronted the protesters and the protesters aren't mobs they are mothers and veterans and mayors
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in this moment real leadership would entail de-escalation collaboration and looking for ways
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to peaceably resolve our differences instead use pepper spray and truncheons on american citizens
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stop i can't take it i can't take it i can't take it i can't listen to it a second time here's the thing
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what more can you give to these quote quote unquote peaceful protesters what more can you compromise on
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you're already compromising everything there is to be an american you've compromised on our security
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you've compromised on our our sanity you've compromised our history you've compromised our
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economy you've compromised absolutely everything and you know what you want to say the protesters
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aren't mobs okay let's agree the protesters aren't mobs but the general the attorney general
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reinforced that point yesterday but we're not talking about the protesters now are we we're talking
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about the rioters the looters the violent insurrectionists that state they want an end
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to america it made no difference that jim jordan played that long video clip of the violence it made
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no difference that barr tried to make the clarification not only did they never give him a chance to
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actually respond they didn't care you could have taken every single democrat out of that room and
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replace them with marxists dressed as stalin and you wouldn't be able to tell the difference in their
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approach it would have gone down the exact same way whatever is left of the democratic party is now
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dead they have fully jumped in with both feet with the radicals they are now pushing within the halls
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of congress the same talking points that the violent street thugs are using jfk would be ashamed of that
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party his party has now committed character suicide the vast majority of nf i may use air quotes questions
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centered around the conflating of the protesters with the rioters and the government's use of force
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and every time he even attempted to correct their lies he was shouted down with i'm reclaiming my time i
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never i've never seen anything like it now i'm not surprised that they didn't veer from their strategy this
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entire thing all of it is about one thing and congressman jordan hit it out of the park during his opening
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statement here he is iron now how do they continue the cover up real simple jim comey leaks his memos
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with the express purpose of getting a special counsel appointed to investigate something they
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already know is not true and that's exactly what happened we get two years 19 lawyers 40 agents 500
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witnesses 2800 cepedas and a 30 million cost to the taxpayer and they come back with nothing
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absolutely nothing and so all they got left is to attack the attorney general who had the courage to
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state the truth right from the get-go the first time he testifies after he's confirmed you guys
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attack him every day every week and now you filed articles of impeachment against him it's ridiculous
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he had the courage to do what no one else would do at the justice department
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sally yates wouldn't call it spying jeff sessions wouldn't do it rod rosenstein wouldn't do it chris
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way ray sure as heck isn't going to do it so mr tringer i want to thank you for having the courage to
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call it what it was fine it's amazing that one of the charges the democrats are lobbying about bar is
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that he fired a u.s attorney because he was investigating trump the truth is that the democrats
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are trying to impeach bar for the exact same thing this is about one thing covering up a coup
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now that was madness to say that a year ago but the evidence is clear the attorney general is working
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with the u.s attorney john durham to investigate the origins of the bogus russia investigation that
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makes him democratic enemy number one and they are desperate they are afraid and cannot let the truth
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come out but i don't know if the truth is even spoken in america if it matters anymore but that
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is what yesterday was all about but the truth will eventually come out even so somehow or another i fear
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we won't be satisfied because there are too many powerful people involved you know when it comes to
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the inevitable fallout from obamagate there's one thing you can absolutely count on there won't be
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one single high profile indictment and you can take that to the bank we know we have the evidence we have
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the testimony we have the written documents at the time we know that biden was the first one to bring
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up the logan act to go after general flynn we know that obama told the fbi to reopen their investigation
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into flynn after they had officially cleared him and closed the investigation the day before saying
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there is nothing here we know that john brennan was getting information from british intelligence
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in unofficial meetings we know that the the debunked steel dossier was used to obtain a fisa warrant
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to spy on members of the trump campaign we know all of this
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but don't expect any big names to go down for anybody because they're all protected
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they're all protected they're all part of the clan and yes i use that word intentionally
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they're all part of the clan that uses fear and intimidation and they use money they use their power
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and they are going to change the world that's what they believe now somebody is going to answer for
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these crimes i think several people will but the big dogs they're going to walk away the chihuahuas
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are going to take the rap somebody has to go down but it won't be from the political elite on the left
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the democrats tried to destroy donald trump because donald trump will not go along with their hostile
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takeover of this country and the hijacking of the world you mark my words if you think that you don't
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understand a country today if you think you've lost your country today you will not recognize the
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country a year from now this country you won't forget about the what you used to think america was
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you won't recognize this country a year from now
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this is a multi-layer operation the democrats tried to destroy trump during the election then
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later they doubled down after he won the first layer is right at the very top obama biden power
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rice comey and brennan that's it the highest levels of this administration in the worst scandal of
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american history that nobody wants to talk about even though we now have the evidence
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we have their own handwritten notes from that oval office meeting and then later revealed through
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congressional testimony and the fbi's documentation and their notes but the second layer the individual
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mid-level government employees people like bruce or over the doj and peter struck at the fbi
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there's more names involved but these were the foot soldiers in the silent coup
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now i have to point this out because as more information is revealed you're going to see
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individuals from the bottom layers of the operation they're going to start getting into trouble you're
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going to see the top layers insulated they'll be protected
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you're listening to the best of the glenbeck program
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we welcome to the program a friend of the program rob smith he's the author of a new book
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always a soldier he's a contributor to turning point usa he's one of the guy he's he's a decorated
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iraq war veteran he was one of the guys that uh was an activist in the movement to repeal the don't
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ask don't tell law which barred any service from you know any gay or lesbian uh soldiers uh he became
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famous uh because of this uh he was outspoken and he then let it slip that he's also a conservative
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gay black conservative holy cow uh what's it like to live in new york city rob smith
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what is it like to live in new york city well i'll tell you what coming out as gay was not a big deal
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coming out as conservative and let alone as conservative but an actual gay black supporter
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of president donald trump made me a complete pariah in new york city um there were people that were
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at my wedding that looked the other way when i walked down the street it was very much known that
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who i was was just not accepted in this sort of coastal elite utopia of new york city and you know
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what glenn that is the exact reason that i came out as conservative so i came out as conservative about
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two and a half years ago and i did this and i say all the time coming out as conservative was harder
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than coming out as gay because it was one of the most disruptive events of my life i lost friends
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um professional repercussions happened so many things happened and the reason why i i wrote this
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book and decided to tell my story the subtitle is service sacrifice and coming out as america's
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favorite black gay republican glenn is because i get facebook messages dms from people all the time
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that are scared to death to be open and honest about how they fall politically and it's not right
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so i you know i just saw this today let me see if i can find it here um since 2020 and just this year
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since february 34 percent in the u.s identify as conservative that is down six points since february
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uh is that is that because we're really losing conservatives or we are just afraid to say we're
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conservative i to tell you the truth glenn i believe that there are more conservatives i since i came out
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two and a half years ago i'm seeing this movement of different types of people in the party i'm seeing
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definitely more black people more latino people i'm seeing the people that are not your quote-unquote
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traditional conservative because we're standing up and saying the left doesn't control us the left
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doesn't own us and as a matter of fact america is ours too and we can love america and we can support
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america as well i do not think the numbers are going down but where the left is really succeeding
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is in making people absolutely afraid to be open and honest about their political beliefs think about
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the language if you support the president if you're conservative leaning you are what do they say
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nazi white supremacist racist sexist homophobe all of these different things and there are some people
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that just don't want to deal with the blowback and will not be honest about what their political
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leanings are will not be honest about supporting the president and will certainly not be honest to
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pollsters when they're they're polled about their political beliefs so is that i mean because that's not
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the road you chose to take you chose to take the the road of i'm gonna come out and i'm gonna take
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the blows which one's better or they both just necessary and and part of the way things are
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well glenn i think that they're both equally valid okay everybody has the decision to to make a decision in
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terms of the direction they want this country to go via the voting booth i knew personally with my
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background in don't have some relativism and coming from the left and knowing how that works
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i knew that in order for me to make the statement that i wanted to make i needed to make it as big as
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possible i needed to get out there put my face out there take the blows and to write always a soldier
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and to do all these different things because there are so many people that do not want to take those
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heads and i'm media savvy enough and i know enough i you know i got a i got a degree in journalism from
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columbia and an undergrad degree and pr from syracuse so i know enough about what is going on
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um to have made the decision to make the biggest possible impact but i respect people that just want
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to run their businesses and just want to live their lives and maybe not so much want to be out there
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and open politically to the extent that i am so i think that they're both equally valid choices
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so i spoke to somebody yesterday who is at our mercury one leadership training program
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and she is in her 20s um just this sweet sweet woman and uh she is she's you know opened her own
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business she's an entrepreneur and she said uh glenn i i i wasn't always a conservative i i'm actually
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kind of new i've i've seen what's happening on the left and i can't deal with it and then she's
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broke into tears and she said but i've lost my family over this they won't talk to me my parents
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won't talk to me i've lost my friends over being conservative and she said i i you know i don't know
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what to do i i i feel so alone i've always wondered rob how do people who have had centuries of having to
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live in the closet finally get out of the closet and then force others to go back in what is this
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this uh this gay stormtrooper thing that goes on where you have to abide by everything
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or you're you're non-existent or you're excommunicated so this is what i call it there's
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a chapter and always a soldier chapter 15 the cult of lgbtq right so this used to be a movement that
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was just about gays and lesbians wanting to live our lives wanting to be married legally wanting to
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serve in the military that's what i connected to now it has become a cult that is taken over by
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every strain of leftism that you could possibly think of and these people are told when they come
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out uh as gay or lesbian that they have to adhere to every single thing that the cult says from um
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transgender toddlers to nine-year-old drag queens dancing in a gay bar in brooklyn at 3 a.m yes it's
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a real story and i get into that in my book this is all documented these are all things that have
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actually happened so this movement has become a leftist culty movement and glenn the reason why
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i decided to come out as conservative and do all this stuff and specifically talk about being a gay
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conservative is that i have lived the life that they are that the leftists are pushing to these
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young gays and lesbians i believed all that i did all that and fundamentally it leads down a path
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of destruction and those what is being pushed by the lgbtq left is not going to make these people
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happy so what they want leftism to become is their new religion and they want them to worship that
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instead of worshiping god instead of thinking about um personal responsibility instead of thinking about
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ways that we can build and this is how so many young gays and lesbians get sucked into this glenn
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and i would hope that they would all read chapter 15 the cult of lgbtq because i break all of that
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stuff down and all he's a soldier talk to me a little bit about joe biden we have about a minute
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and a half less talk to me about joe biden and uh and his presidency or his you know his viability as
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as a president for the left uh he has no viability the thing about it is is that joe biden is a shadow
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candidate joe biden obviously is not there 100 mentally and the scary thing about it is that
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everybody around him on the left knows this and they're looking to run a shadow presidency which this
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man will be he's going to be a puppet for the radical left fringes that have taken over the democrat
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party right now they know this and they want to hide this from the american public for as long as
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they possibly can which is why they're going to try to avoid debates which is why they try to keep him
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as hidden as much as possible they realize this it's despicable they are leading even democratic
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voters down the wrong road um it's actually kind of sad to watch when so we're talking to rob smith
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always a soldier uh is the name of his new book um a last question which ones which one has more
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destructive power to it donald trump winning donald trump losing donald trump losing
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will be more destructive because let me tell you something what the left is doing right now is
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they are holding people's votes hostages what they are saying is that if you put us back in power
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all of this chaos all of the riots all of this destruction will end as long as we're not in power
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and if donald trump doesn't get re-elected again that means that that tactic works and they will use
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this tactic over and over again in the future that is why we have to re-elect donald trump
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to to smash that into the ground for good uh rob i can't thank you enough for being on thank you for
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your courage you're being willing to be outspoken on so many issues and taking the arrows rob smith
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always a soldier uh available now wherever you uh buy your book pick it up