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00:00:08.300 Hey, welcome to the podcast.

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00:00:41.160 Alrighty, you sick freak.

00:00:42.980 Some really interesting stuff on the podcast today.

00:00:45.100 The first hour, we spent a lot on different types of families.

00:00:49.620 It started with a really great story of a family that throws you about 10 curveballs in the middle of it.

00:00:54.620 It's a fascinating story about a real person going through something very real,

00:00:58.340 and then a fake person going through something very fake in Japan.

00:01:02.220 Except it's a real person.

00:01:03.760 Well, yeah.

00:01:04.320 But it's a fake.

00:01:05.200 It's bizarre.

00:01:06.260 I can't even begin to explain it.

00:01:09.240 Also, we have Mike and Peggy Rowe on with us.

00:01:13.400 It's a great conversation about family.

00:01:16.600 And also, I want to try to squeeze in one more thing.

00:01:19.440 Lamont Hill.

00:01:20.260 What Lamont Hill, a guy who works for CNN, actually said, and there's no outcry.

00:01:27.420 He was at the U.N. reading a prepared text calling for violence and the destruction of Israel.

00:01:33.400 And nobody at CNN even cares.

00:01:36.960 All on the podcast today.

00:01:38.200 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:01:51.500 It's Thursday, November 29th.

00:01:53.980 I love Patriot Mobile.

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00:02:55.860 Glenn Beck.

00:02:57.240 You know, I was going to start with Nancy Pelosi, but I don't really get it.

00:03:03.220 But Nancy Pelosi is not going to affect my life.

00:03:05.260 She's not going to affect my life.

00:03:06.460 I'm not going to allow her to affect my life.

00:03:08.800 What's going on in Washington is just a total scam.

00:03:12.000 And we all know it.

00:03:13.380 Nobody really likes Nancy Pelosi.

00:03:15.520 Nobody really wants her there.

00:03:17.080 This is all a power struggle.

00:03:18.240 So, I thought I would start instead with two stories.

00:03:24.020 You want the good story or the really weird story first?

00:03:30.320 I guess the good story?

00:03:33.840 Let's start with the good story.

00:03:34.860 Okay.

00:03:35.720 And then I want the really.

00:03:36.700 But I do want where I'm still getting the really weird story.

00:03:38.340 You're really getting it.

00:03:39.040 You're going to get the really, the really, this story is a story about a woman who has

00:03:47.700 made a choice on her, on her daughter.

00:03:51.060 Now, you know, the one that the six-year-old daughter, she says is, is, you know, transgendered

00:04:00.580 and needs to have a sex change at six.

00:04:02.760 And dad has said, no, dad lost custody.

00:04:06.600 Mom has custody.

00:04:07.720 It's being called child abuse.

00:04:09.260 I think it is.

00:04:10.380 I mean, it's crazy.

00:04:12.420 This story makes that story look normal.

00:04:18.060 Wow.

00:04:18.680 Okay.

00:04:18.940 I'm in.

00:04:20.680 So, let's have some good news first.

00:04:25.440 When I was six weeks old, I went to have an ultrasound for tummy issues, and they noticed

00:04:31.240 my ovaries were not hooked up right.

00:04:33.140 The doctor at the time thought it would be best to remove them completely.

00:04:36.020 When I was 13, I found out that I'd never be able to have children.

00:04:40.140 It was then that I started researching adoption.

00:04:42.880 As I grew older, my biggest fear was to have somebody tell a perspective, to have to someday

00:04:48.220 tell a prospective spouse that I would never be able to have birth for our children.

00:04:54.840 Then I met Jason.

00:04:56.200 He was a single dad to two wonderful little boys, and we fell head over heels.

00:05:00.140 Before we got engaged, I told him the biggest secret of my life.

00:05:04.160 One of only a handful of people knew about me.

00:05:06.880 I sobbed as I told him.

00:05:08.620 He grabbed my face, and he told me, it didn't matter how our children came to us.

00:05:13.080 They would be our children.

00:05:14.780 I went through this with Tanya, and there is something about women that when they can't

00:05:29.240 have children, it just changes them.

00:05:34.420 It's just so devastating to them.

00:05:37.720 And Tanya was not supposed to be able to have any children, and didn't know that until we

00:05:44.860 were married.

00:05:45.740 And it was so colossally devastating to her.

00:05:50.700 And I kept saying to her what he is, honey, we can adopt.

00:05:54.340 The child's going to be ours.

00:05:56.460 I mean, it won't matter.

00:05:57.240 And we did adopt, and it didn't matter.

00:06:03.540 Rafe is, well, for some strange reason, lately, Rafe is my son.

00:06:09.720 But when he behaves, you know, he's her son.

00:06:15.600 Anyway, before we got engaged, I told him about this.

00:06:19.100 So we took out $55,000 because there was too many shady adoption agencies where they would

00:06:29.200 cost you $55,000, and, you know, all was said and done.

00:06:33.720 So we set out to do it on our own.

00:06:35.540 We marketed ourselves online and through social media.

00:06:38.720 We made a Facebook adoption page and paid for targeted ads.

00:06:42.940 We had an Instagram page with pictures of our life.

00:06:45.420 We also put a profile on adoption.com.

00:06:47.940 We were contacted by a handful of women, but most turned out to be scams.

00:06:52.040 Then we got a message on Facebook.

00:06:54.260 A young woman emailed us telling us that her friend was pregnant and looking for a family.

00:06:59.300 September 1st, we got a phone call from this woman in Missouri, and we talked for about

00:07:02.900 an hour and a half.

00:07:04.260 Over the next month, we built our relationship and became increasingly excited.

00:07:08.720 However, she never got us official proof of pregnancy.

00:07:12.880 People can fake ultrasounds and blood tests online all the time.

00:07:15.960 I was ready to commit because I trusted this woman, but my husband wanted to renew our

00:07:22.960 adoption.com profile one more time.

00:07:25.700 We renewed it on October 1st.

00:07:27.760 On October 2nd, we got a message from another expectant mother.

00:07:32.300 She had been watching our profile and wanted to meet us.

00:07:35.140 Two days later, we met in a little diner 20 minutes from our house.

00:07:38.760 Just when we thought she had stood us up, in walked a very pregnant girl and her mom.

00:07:43.560 We hugged, and she showed us the ultrasounds of a little baby boy.

00:07:48.180 He then started kicking, and she had me feel her belly.

00:07:51.380 Toward the end of breakfast, she asked how we felt.

00:07:54.100 She then asked us if we would adopt her baby and love him forever.

00:07:57.740 Jason and I sobbed, in the middle of a diner, in complete shock, and three weeks later, we

00:08:03.840 stood there and watched as our son Andy was born.

00:08:06.740 I was the first to hold him and kiss his tiny hands.

00:08:11.920 That was October 30th, 2017.

00:08:15.160 As we took Andy home and adjusted to being new parents, I had continued to talk with the

00:08:20.600 first expectant mom that we had matched with.

00:08:23.580 She had still never given us any proof.

00:08:25.880 She had told us congratulations and that she had found another family for her baby.

00:08:29.880 I was happy for her, and maintained occasional contact over the next couple of months.

00:08:35.020 But in January of this year, I received a phone call from the same woman.

00:08:39.480 She told me that she had just told the other family that she didn't feel good about them

00:08:43.640 adopting her baby.

00:08:45.140 She then told me that she knew this baby was supposed to be ours.

00:08:49.860 I stood there holding my three-month-old baby boy, and she sent me pictures of an ultrasound

00:08:56.120 of the baby boy growing inside.

00:08:58.060 I was speechless, but I also knew.

00:09:00.900 Deep down, I knew.

00:09:03.260 Over the next two weeks, my husband and I prayed a lot about adding another newborn to

00:09:07.720 our family only months apart.

00:09:09.600 The same resounding answer came again and again.

00:09:13.160 Six weeks after that phone call, we flew out with Andy to Missouri and met another woman

00:09:18.380 and her three children the night before she was being induced.

00:09:22.580 We all instantly connected.

00:09:24.620 The next day, we stood at her bedside and watched as our son, Ellis, was born.

00:09:30.320 Jason even got to cut the cord.

00:09:32.900 I was the first to hold him as well and kiss his tidy hands.

00:09:38.180 Never did we imagine having two newborn babies only four months apart.

00:09:42.700 Adoption is an amazing thing.

00:09:52.480 Because of a woman's greatest sacrifice and selfless decisions, I have become a mom.

00:09:59.040 Two, two of the most perfect baby boys I could have ever asked for.

00:10:04.480 We have open adoptions with both boys' birth parents.

00:10:09.740 We can talk and send pictures and recently met up with Andy's birth parents at a nearby park.

00:10:15.920 Four months after Ellis was born, we had a strong feeling to reach out to his birth mom

00:10:20.600 and she had mentioned that they were in a rough spot.

00:10:23.440 Jason and I decided to fly her oldest child out to visit us for ten days

00:10:28.720 so he could spend some time with Ellis.

00:10:31.640 Sean and I, uh, Sean had never been on a plane before

00:10:34.880 and he had never been that far away from home.

00:10:38.500 We instantly fell in love with this sweet boy.

00:10:41.500 Ten days eventually turned into all summer.

00:10:44.840 At the end of the summer, he asked if he could watch his new family try out for football.

00:10:50.240 Before we knew it, he was talking to the coaches and asked if he could try out.

00:10:54.300 Sean made the top football team for the eighth grade in his first year of ever playing an organized sport.

00:11:00.520 He called his mom and asked her if he could stay.

00:11:04.260 She said, whatever would make you happy.

00:11:07.580 Sean has now been living with us for six months

00:11:10.260 and his football team made it all the way to the playoffs.

00:11:14.340 Never did we imagine a year ago that we would be adding three more children in under nine months

00:11:21.020 to the two that we already have.

00:11:24.780 I have not given birth to any of the five boys we have at home right now.

00:11:29.900 But I am their mom.

00:11:33.600 We have since finalized both Andy and Ellis' adoptions

00:11:37.540 and they are officially ours.

00:11:39.920 We share custody with our oldest two boys and their mom

00:11:43.560 and we don't have a timeline on how long Sean will be staying with us.

00:11:49.060 Family doesn't have to be made from blood.

00:11:52.280 It can come in many shapes and sizes.

00:11:54.840 It is the love that matters.

00:11:57.580 So here we are, a current family of seven

00:12:01.200 and we love each other deeply

00:12:03.840 and we go out on a lot of adventures together.

00:12:07.560 It's not always easy.

00:12:09.620 There have been many ups and downs and everything in between.

00:12:13.220 But we would never trade this for the world.

00:12:16.560 So many people would love to be parents.

00:12:28.080 So many people cry themselves to sleep

00:12:33.360 because that's what they were born to be, a parent.

00:12:38.060 If you are listening to the sound of my voice now

00:12:43.740 and you don't know what to do,

00:12:47.940 please, please adopt that child of yours out

00:12:53.340 because that child of yours

00:12:58.820 is a miracle, a true miracle

00:13:04.480 that somebody else has been praying for.

00:13:09.320 That child has just happened to come through you.

00:13:15.680 This is the best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:13:18.640 You remember the drag queen children's story hour

00:13:27.980 that was happening?

00:13:29.100 Mm-hmm.

00:13:29.920 Where they invite drag queens.

00:13:31.800 You're not going to preach your hate, are you?

00:13:33.920 No, no, no.

00:13:34.900 No.

00:13:35.420 This is a wonderful story of love and appreciation.

00:13:38.260 All right.

00:13:39.460 Some drag queens would be invited into this library

00:13:42.080 and would read stories to kids

00:13:44.640 in their drag queen get-up,

00:13:47.700 which looks a little frightening for children,

00:13:50.800 but, I mean, a white face

00:13:51.840 and then a series of five horns

00:13:54.580 all over the head of the drag queen.

00:13:57.820 Mm-hmm.

00:13:57.940 And then this person reads stories to the kids.

00:14:00.940 So some parents took issue with it,

00:14:03.580 and they were haters, obviously.

00:14:05.240 Clearly.

00:14:06.120 Mongering in hatred.

00:14:07.820 Because all this person was trying to do.

00:14:10.080 Just read a story.

00:14:12.060 Come in and read stories to the kids.

00:14:13.600 That's all it's about.

00:14:14.580 Right.

00:14:15.500 The parents said,

00:14:17.360 well, what about,

00:14:18.580 are you, like, indoctrinating our kids?

00:14:20.740 Oh, my gosh.

00:14:21.320 Listen to these haters.

00:14:21.980 Of course not.

00:14:22.860 Of course not.

00:14:23.400 Right.

00:14:24.200 Well, now, amid all of that controversy,

00:14:27.360 one drag queen has admitted

00:14:30.040 that the events are meant

00:14:32.040 to groom the next generation.

00:14:34.740 Huh.

00:14:34.840 Uh, Dylan Pontiff,

00:14:37.520 who is one of the drag queens,

00:14:39.060 says,

00:14:39.380 this is going to be the grooming

00:14:40.680 of the next generation.

00:14:41.860 We're trying to groom the next generation

00:14:43.460 to be accepting of LGBTQQIA2 values.

00:14:49.800 Just read that sentence again for me, please.

00:14:52.140 That is so great.

00:14:53.140 We're trying to groom the next generation

00:14:54.800 to be accepting of the LGBTQQIA2 values.

00:15:00.780 Pontiff was dressed in street clothes

00:15:02.980 for this meeting,

00:15:03.600 but goes by Santana Pilar Andrews

00:15:06.700 when he's on stage.

00:15:08.360 Oh.

00:15:09.080 He said that he's been bullied

00:15:10.220 most of his life for being gay,

00:15:11.900 and he blasted those who opposed

00:15:13.600 the drag queen story hour.

00:15:16.120 Um,

00:15:17.220 even those gathered at a city council meeting

00:15:20.120 in Lafayette, Louisiana,

00:15:21.200 who complained about it,

00:15:22.620 uh,

00:15:23.240 because they were haters.

00:15:25.480 However,

00:15:26.280 now,

00:15:26.840 uh,

00:15:27.960 LGBTQQIA2 activists

00:15:30.840 have said that they're determined

00:15:32.140 to indoctrinate children

00:15:33.260 to accept the movement's agenda.

00:15:35.400 Could I,

00:15:36.260 could I,

00:15:36.740 could I ask you just

00:15:38.000 real quickly

00:15:38.840 to,

00:15:39.940 uh,

00:15:40.720 for those who don't know,

00:15:42.020 I know,

00:15:42.500 and I know you know,

00:15:43.860 could you just tell me

00:15:45.140 what each of those letters...

00:15:46.420 Go through the letters?

00:15:47.240 Yeah.

00:15:47.760 Well,

00:15:48.320 the L.

00:15:48.920 Yeah.

00:15:49.440 Lesbian.

00:15:50.000 Of course.

00:15:50.500 Gay.

00:15:51.060 Yes.

00:15:51.720 Bisexual.

00:15:52.360 Yes.

00:15:53.320 Trans.

00:15:53.920 Yes.

00:15:55.300 Q is queer,

00:15:57.260 then the next Q is questioning.

00:15:59.660 Questioning.

00:16:00.200 Good, good.

00:16:00.560 Then the I is intersex.

00:16:03.520 Which means...

00:16:04.660 Which means you kind of

00:16:06.600 escape between both,

00:16:08.300 I believe.

00:16:09.020 You're like,

00:16:09.480 you can go either way.

00:16:10.600 You're fluid.

00:16:11.040 All right.

00:16:12.100 So why isn't that F instead of I?

00:16:13.980 I don't know.

00:16:14.820 Okay.

00:16:15.460 Um,

00:16:16.360 I,

00:16:16.680 A,

00:16:17.200 then the last A is asexual.

00:16:19.200 You don't have any sex

00:16:20.020 with anybody.

00:16:20.740 And then the two is two-spirit.

00:16:22.720 You've got two-spirit people.

00:16:24.000 You've got two inside of you.

00:16:25.640 You're both male and female inside.

00:16:28.500 And I think we've...

00:16:29.800 Wouldn't that be called

00:16:31.100 when you have two spirits?

00:16:32.580 Oh, no.

00:16:32.840 Don't you do it.

00:16:33.420 Don't you do it.

00:16:34.580 You hateful jerk.

00:16:36.420 Don't you dare.

00:16:37.660 Really?

00:16:38.220 I can't even question?

00:16:39.600 I can't...

00:16:40.080 No!

00:16:40.360 Oh, my...

00:16:40.880 Look what happened to Megan Kelly

00:16:42.120 when she questioned.

00:16:43.420 One of the Q's is for questioning.

00:16:45.540 I'm just questioning.

00:16:46.380 Not hateful questioning.

00:16:48.360 Well, I just wanted to...

00:16:49.480 Is this a loving question?

00:16:50.680 Where you're accepting and tolerant?

00:16:52.020 Will it end in love?

00:16:54.060 Well, I think everything ends in love.

00:16:56.080 All right.

00:16:57.400 I mean, I am as optimistic

00:16:59.080 and as well-grounded in my optimism

00:17:02.720 as Asako is.

00:17:05.160 There you go.

00:17:05.840 By the way, I believe we're all

00:17:08.500 on the bandwagon of Quilt Bag.

00:17:10.480 Yes.

00:17:11.100 That's a much better acronym.

00:17:12.480 Yeah.

00:17:12.760 It's a little easier to pronounce

00:17:14.120 than LGBTQIA2.

00:17:16.640 It sort of feels like an insult,

00:17:19.760 but it's not.

00:17:20.720 It's not.

00:17:21.120 It's actually the...

00:17:21.760 And they seem to like it.

00:17:22.700 Yeah.

00:17:22.980 And I think, first of all,

00:17:24.540 you have to make it the sequel,

00:17:25.480 Quilt Bag 2.

00:17:26.500 And I think for all the things

00:17:27.620 we haven't covered yet,

00:17:28.440 if you do Quilt Bag 2,

00:17:29.960 Electric Boogaloo,

00:17:30.940 you're going to cover a bunch

00:17:32.060 of different things

00:17:32.800 we haven't necessarily uncovered yet.

00:17:34.060 Are you mucking now?

00:17:34.860 No, I think Quilt Bag 2,

00:17:36.380 Electric Boogaloo,

00:17:36.960 is the best way to go.

00:17:37.580 You can open up that Quilt Bag

00:17:39.180 and put a lot of stuff in it.

00:17:40.220 Right.

00:17:40.600 All sorts of things.

00:17:41.580 Yeah.

00:17:42.260 But I like how open they are

00:17:43.680 about it because this transgender person

00:17:46.820 says, I'm here to tell you,

00:17:47.860 all that time that I said

00:17:49.380 I wasn't indoctrinating anyone

00:17:50.880 with my beliefs about gay and lesbian

00:17:52.360 and bi and trans and queer people,

00:17:54.200 that was a lie.

00:17:56.240 I have come to indoctrinate your children

00:17:58.320 into my LGBTQIA2 agenda,

00:18:01.100 and I'm not a bit sorry.

00:18:04.300 All 25 years of my career

00:18:06.100 as an activist,

00:18:07.320 since the very first time

00:18:08.940 as a 16-year-old,

00:18:09.920 I went and stood shaking

00:18:10.920 and breathless in front of 11 people

00:18:12.460 to talk about my story.

00:18:13.540 I've been on a consistent campaign

00:18:15.060 of trying to change people's minds about us.

00:18:17.860 I want to make them like us.

00:18:19.600 That's absolutely my goal.

00:18:20.860 I want to make your children like me

00:18:26.100 and my family,

00:18:27.280 even if that goes against the way

00:18:28.860 you've interpreted the teachings

00:18:31.280 of your religion.

00:18:32.740 So there it is.

00:18:33.740 They're, you know,

00:18:34.780 the mask is coming off.

00:18:35.960 Not this mask.

00:18:37.420 Not with the horns.

00:18:38.580 Right.

00:18:39.080 Not that one.

00:18:39.920 That one stays.

00:18:40.780 Right.

00:18:41.160 It's a handsome mask.

00:18:42.360 And you don't want to mess with that.

00:18:43.440 It's a handsome mask?

00:18:44.080 Or beautiful.

00:18:44.920 Right.

00:18:45.020 Whichever you want to go by.

00:18:46.640 Right.

00:18:46.880 This is the best

00:18:50.900 of the Glenn Beck Program.

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00:19:13.120 John Rhys Davies is a guy

00:19:16.180 that you absolutely know

00:19:18.340 and love.

00:19:19.880 You love all of the characters

00:19:21.180 he has ever played

00:19:22.540 from Indiana Jones

00:19:24.600 to Lord of the Rings

00:19:26.760 where he was Gimli.

00:19:28.800 He is just great

00:19:30.140 and you've heard him

00:19:30.700 do a ton of documentaries.

00:19:32.140 He did one for us.

00:19:33.680 He's the narrator of

00:19:34.660 I Am Israel.

00:19:36.300 I am Israel film dot com

00:19:38.560 and we are airing that

00:19:40.260 again on Friday

00:19:41.340 on the Blaze Network.

00:19:43.600 We welcome

00:19:44.700 John Rhys Davies

00:19:45.900 to the program.

00:19:46.840 How are you, John?

00:19:48.720 Very well, Glenn.

00:19:49.780 And yourself?

00:19:50.960 I'm good.

00:19:51.780 I'm a little confused

00:19:52.740 by everything that's going on

00:19:54.280 in today's world.

00:19:55.680 You're not alone in that.

00:19:56.940 You're not alone in that.

00:19:59.740 Over here,

00:20:00.680 we have an additional

00:20:02.500 set of problems.

00:20:03.360 We have a government

00:20:05.280 that was elected

00:20:06.540 to regain our independence

00:20:08.760 that has managed

00:20:09.780 to do a deal

00:20:10.680 that would probably

00:20:12.760 have been rejected

00:20:14.200 by the French

00:20:15.120 after they collapsed

00:20:16.080 in 1870.

00:20:18.660 I mean,

00:20:19.580 no sovereign nation

00:20:20.720 on earth

00:20:21.420 has ever been asked

00:20:22.340 to surrender

00:20:23.980 quite as much

00:20:24.700 of their liberty

00:20:25.340 to leave an organization

00:20:27.140 as Britain has.

00:20:29.000 John,

00:20:29.680 what do you have to,

00:20:30.440 for Americans

00:20:31.280 have been so,

00:20:32.660 you know,

00:20:33.880 concentrating on

00:20:34.620 what we're doing

00:20:35.400 and it's a mess

00:20:37.340 but if you're not

00:20:38.220 following it every day,

00:20:40.020 what is this deal

00:20:41.660 look like for Brexit?

00:20:44.780 Well,

00:20:45.460 it looks basically

00:20:47.560 as if we will

00:20:49.300 lose any of the advantages

00:20:52.160 that we had

00:20:53.900 by being in Europe

00:20:55.460 but still be bound

00:20:58.780 to it in terms of

00:21:00.940 we cannot leave

00:21:02.480 the customs union,

00:21:03.680 we cannot leave

00:21:05.060 the,

00:21:06.080 the,

00:21:07.120 the,

00:21:08.260 we cannot make

00:21:08.960 trade treaties

00:21:10.660 with other people

00:21:12.020 without the consent

00:21:13.340 of the EU.

00:21:14.460 Why would,

00:21:15.260 why would anyone

00:21:16.420 sign that?

00:21:19.560 Well,

00:21:20.160 we've got a big

00:21:21.140 scare thing

00:21:21.940 going on now.

00:21:22.900 Everyone is saying,

00:21:24.060 oh my God,

00:21:24.900 you realize,

00:21:25.920 well I mean,

00:21:26.360 at the end of March

00:21:27.200 we're going to fall

00:21:28.120 off the cliff,

00:21:28.900 you realize the disruption,

00:21:30.620 the chaos,

00:21:31.460 we'd have 15,

00:21:32.560 the Bank of England

00:21:33.640 says that there's

00:21:35.220 15 years of chaos

00:21:36.980 coming up ahead.

00:21:38.800 Any economic forecast

00:21:40.600 that goes 15 years ahead

00:21:42.360 has got to have

00:21:43.680 some element

00:21:44.700 of error in it.

00:21:45.900 Can you predict

00:21:46.580 to me

00:21:47.220 what your bank account

00:21:48.560 will be in 15 years?

00:21:49.940 No.

00:21:51.000 I can't.

00:21:51.820 I mean,

00:21:52.120 it's,

00:21:52.520 it's nonsense

00:21:53.340 but there is

00:21:55.520 the possibility

00:21:56.560 that the,

00:21:58.080 the extent

00:21:59.820 of the nonsense

00:22:00.540 will,

00:22:01.520 will confound

00:22:04.320 the actual

00:22:06.120 Brexit moment

00:22:07.360 itself.

00:22:08.460 And,

00:22:09.000 and,

00:22:10.020 and then I think

00:22:10.920 we're into

00:22:11.460 a very different world

00:22:12.700 because it was

00:22:14.220 the democratic will

00:22:15.280 of the people

00:22:15.980 that we should

00:22:17.200 leave the EU.

00:22:18.200 and,

00:22:19.500 and once again,

00:22:21.940 if an elite

00:22:22.700 blocks

00:22:23.960 the wishes

00:22:24.680 of the people

00:22:25.540 by subterfuge

00:22:27.760 or,

00:22:28.140 or cunning

00:22:29.680 or ignoring

00:22:30.620 or disdaining

00:22:31.940 or,

00:22:33.340 then that elite

00:22:34.360 will ultimately

00:22:35.400 find themselves

00:22:36.460 in a very

00:22:37.000 uncomfortable situation.

00:22:38.820 I,

00:22:38.900 I find this fascinating

00:22:40.000 that people

00:22:40.540 are saying that,

00:22:42.040 you know,

00:22:42.300 people want to leave

00:22:43.080 the EU

00:22:43.660 or standing up

00:22:44.820 against the,

00:22:45.680 the immigration thing

00:22:46.780 which now our own

00:22:48.480 Hillary Clinton

00:22:49.680 was over in Europe

00:22:50.720 saying,

00:22:51.240 you know,

00:22:51.540 that was a real

00:22:52.000 big mistake.

00:22:52.760 Oh,

00:22:52.920 you think so Hillary?

00:22:54.820 But anybody

00:22:55.860 who is standing up,

00:22:57.420 they're immediately

00:22:58.240 called bigot

00:22:59.220 and racist

00:22:59.820 and everything else

00:23:00.640 instead of saying,

00:23:02.340 wait a minute,

00:23:02.840 here's a group

00:23:03.440 of people

00:23:04.000 that are tired

00:23:05.400 of being told

00:23:06.700 that there's nothing

00:23:07.660 unique about

00:23:08.420 their culture.

00:23:09.620 They're,

00:23:10.360 they can't recognize

00:23:11.480 their culture.

00:23:12.860 They have to live

00:23:14.060 in service

00:23:15.020 of everyone

00:23:15.880 else's culture.

00:23:17.720 You know,

00:23:18.080 if you,

00:23:18.640 if you fly

00:23:19.220 the British flag

00:23:20.100 or the Swedish flag

00:23:21.340 now,

00:23:22.160 you know,

00:23:22.480 you're called

00:23:22.900 a racist.

00:23:23.660 You have to,

00:23:24.280 you,

00:23:24.480 you're,

00:23:25.340 you can't have

00:23:26.460 any pride

00:23:27.300 in your country

00:23:28.080 and there's a difference

00:23:29.160 between a European

00:23:31.260 nationalist

00:23:32.260 and somebody

00:23:33.340 who is just

00:23:34.120 proud of their country.

00:23:36.960 Well,

00:23:37.480 you're quite right,

00:23:38.080 of course,

00:23:38.660 but,

00:23:38.940 but there is a,

00:23:40.980 there's a great

00:23:42.460 strain of a sort

00:23:44.640 of,

00:23:44.820 some mutant virus

00:23:46.480 in Western European

00:23:48.340 and,

00:23:48.840 and you're part

00:23:49.780 of that civilization

00:23:50.780 which actually

00:23:52.280 despises it,

00:23:54.140 diminishes it,

00:23:55.320 believes that

00:23:56.040 all history is bad

00:23:57.540 wherever we,

00:23:58.240 we occupy.

00:23:59.320 I mean,

00:23:59.600 just the abolition

00:24:00.740 of slavery alone

00:24:02.200 is one of the glories

00:24:03.440 of civilization

00:24:04.320 and of mankind.

00:24:05.400 and it,

00:24:07.920 it,

00:24:08.120 it,

00:24:09.160 it,

00:24:09.360 it wasn't,

00:24:10.080 it,

00:24:10.340 it wasn't a Chinese

00:24:12.080 abolition.

00:24:13.060 It wasn't a,

00:24:14.540 a Muslim

00:24:15.520 or Arab

00:24:16.540 abolition.

00:24:17.740 It was

00:24:18.220 British

00:24:19.360 and Western

00:24:20.640 European

00:24:21.320 Christian civilization

00:24:23.200 that got rid

00:24:24.020 of it.

00:24:25.500 You know,

00:24:26.300 we have a,

00:24:27.580 we,

00:24:27.820 all of us

00:24:28.660 have a checkered

00:24:29.280 history in terms

00:24:30.380 of,

00:24:30.680 of national identity

00:24:32.140 and things like this,

00:24:33.040 but on the whole,

00:24:34.020 I'd sooner be in a Western

00:24:35.600 European

00:24:37.240 Christianized world

00:24:40.240 than in

00:24:41.240 any other civilization

00:24:43.380 that's going

00:24:44.260 right at the moment.

00:24:45.880 I mean,

00:24:46.120 would you really want

00:24:46.980 to live in China

00:24:47.800 or,

00:24:48.800 or Saudi Arabia

00:24:50.160 or anywhere

00:24:51.380 other than,

00:24:53.820 you know,

00:24:54.240 a few countries

00:24:55.380 in Europe

00:24:55.840 and,

00:24:56.380 and,

00:24:56.600 and North America?

00:24:58.220 How are you,

00:24:59.220 how are you feeling

00:25:00.620 about,

00:25:01.240 you know,

00:25:03.120 the,

00:25:03.380 Asia Bibi

00:25:04.960 who is,

00:25:06.100 has asked

00:25:06.880 the United Kingdom

00:25:07.840 for,

00:25:09.000 uh,

00:25:10.140 refugee status?

00:25:11.280 Here's a woman

00:25:11.780 who's going to be killed

00:25:12.780 or children are going

00:25:13.460 to be killed

00:25:13.820 because she's a Catholic

00:25:15.400 and she will not

00:25:17.380 conform.

00:25:18.140 You know,

00:25:18.280 even the Pope

00:25:18.960 is offering her,

00:25:20.600 uh,

00:25:21.000 a place to live.

00:25:22.000 She's going to be

00:25:22.600 beheaded and killed

00:25:23.720 and dragged through

00:25:24.780 the streets of Pakistan

00:25:25.940 if she doesn't get

00:25:26.940 out of there soon.

00:25:28.320 What,

00:25:28.880 what?

00:25:29.360 It's a,

00:25:29.820 it's an absolute

00:25:30.660 disgrace,

00:25:31.660 isn't it?

00:25:32.200 Um,

00:25:33.400 you know,

00:25:34.060 we are,

00:25:34.500 we are constantly

00:25:35.280 asked to accept

00:25:36.520 refugees from war

00:25:37.780 zones and things

00:25:38.580 like that

00:25:39.080 and some of them

00:25:39.940 are genuine

00:25:40.600 refugees but many

00:25:41.560 are just simply

00:25:42.320 smart economic

00:25:43.720 migrants that want

00:25:44.580 to do better

00:25:45.120 for themselves.

00:25:46.460 But once

00:25:47.300 somebody is actually

00:25:48.680 being persecuted,

00:25:50.820 um,

00:25:52.620 and they happen

00:25:53.560 to,

00:25:54.100 you know,

00:25:55.180 be Catholic

00:25:55.700 or Christian

00:25:56.740 or anything like that,

00:25:57.720 well,

00:25:58.040 we can turn our

00:25:58.680 backs on them.

00:25:59.320 Somehow,

00:26:00.620 somehow they represent,

00:26:02.340 well,

00:26:02.920 not terribly important

00:26:04.360 people.

00:26:05.060 I mean,

00:26:05.360 like Khashoggi now

00:26:06.480 clearly was terribly

00:26:07.760 important,

00:26:08.520 but this poor woman,

00:26:11.100 not,

00:26:11.560 not important,

00:26:12.820 not important.

00:26:13.860 John,

00:26:14.140 you're,

00:26:14.640 um,

00:26:14.960 you're,

00:26:15.460 um,

00:26:15.760 you've narrated a film,

00:26:17.400 I Am Israel,

00:26:18.120 and it's in 4K,

00:26:19.580 and it,

00:26:20.000 it,

00:26:20.300 it really shows

00:26:21.940 the inspirational story

00:26:23.280 of,

00:26:23.900 uh,

00:26:24.280 of Israel

00:26:24.860 and the Holy Land,

00:26:25.780 um,

00:26:26.640 like people

00:26:27.140 have never

00:26:27.540 seen it before.

00:26:29.000 Where does your,

00:26:30.280 where does your,

00:26:31.320 your courage

00:26:32.720 to do things

00:26:33.980 like this

00:26:34.480 come from?

00:26:36.840 I'm the least

00:26:37.840 courageous man

00:26:38.860 you know.

00:26:39.960 I mean,

00:26:40.540 there are country,

00:26:41.380 there are countries

00:26:43.220 financing films

00:26:45.060 at the moment

00:26:45.820 that I,

00:26:46.940 I,

00:26:47.220 I,

00:26:47.560 I have to bite

00:26:49.040 my tongue

00:26:49.780 not,

00:26:50.680 uh,

00:26:51.120 not to speak up,

00:26:52.620 but,

00:26:52.980 uh,

00:26:53.280 when it's,

00:26:55.400 uh,

00:26:56.000 friends,

00:26:56.620 money,

00:26:56.980 and things like that,

00:26:57.920 you have to be quiet

00:26:59.040 sometimes,

00:26:59.800 but in truth,

00:27:00.920 in truth,

00:27:02.520 there,

00:27:02.720 there are,

00:27:03.160 there are certain

00:27:03.920 fundamental things

00:27:05.260 that we should believe in,

00:27:06.540 the right of freedom

00:27:07.480 of speech,

00:27:08.200 the right to exist

00:27:09.640 for God's sake

00:27:10.560 in some places,

00:27:11.440 uh,

00:27:12.620 Israel,

00:27:13.700 Israel is,

00:27:15.660 is,

00:27:16.200 uh,

00:27:17.620 a historical

00:27:18.720 obligation

00:27:19.740 that

00:27:20.640 anyone who belongs

00:27:22.640 to Western European

00:27:23.780 Christian civilization

00:27:24.820 or is a beneficiary

00:27:26.280 must acknowledge,

00:27:28.400 must be preserved.

00:27:30.420 Uh,

00:27:30.820 it,

00:27:31.100 it would be,

00:27:33.000 I,

00:27:33.420 you know,

00:27:33.840 that,

00:27:34.060 most of the good

00:27:36.740 things that we have,

00:27:38.080 freedom of speech,

00:27:39.660 freedom of conscience,

00:27:41.480 these things have

00:27:43.740 their germ

00:27:44.320 in second century

00:27:45.740 AD

00:27:46.280 Christians

00:27:47.720 in Rome

00:27:48.560 saying,

00:27:49.640 I don't believe

00:27:50.640 that the emperor

00:27:51.520 should have to make,

00:27:53.080 can,

00:27:53.320 can make a choice

00:27:54.240 of me for me

00:27:55.220 whom I would worship.

00:27:57.420 And our whole tradition

00:27:59.240 of,

00:28:00.020 of freedom of speech,

00:28:02.900 freedom of association,

00:28:04.260 right to vote,

00:28:04.900 and all these things,

00:28:05.980 they basically stem

00:28:07.640 from that idea,

00:28:09.720 along with a few other ideas

00:28:10.920 as well.

00:28:11.440 But,

00:28:12.020 you know,

00:28:12.480 we have an obligation

00:28:13.720 to,

00:28:14.980 to,

00:28:15.360 to,

00:28:15.520 uh,

00:28:15.940 to remember our past

00:28:18.460 and remember its inception

00:28:20.120 and,

00:28:20.780 and,

00:28:21.480 and honor it.

00:28:22.920 And Israel,

00:28:24.520 that curious people,

00:28:26.740 um,

00:28:27.980 with their

00:28:28.880 balmy,

00:28:31.520 extraordinarily magical,

00:28:34.080 uh,

00:28:35.500 relationship with their God,

00:28:37.280 is,

00:28:37.860 is,

00:28:38.180 we are indebted to them.

00:28:39.500 and,

00:28:40.600 um,

00:28:41.640 and we must not allow

00:28:43.000 that to be,

00:28:45.020 yeah,

00:28:46.940 to,

00:28:47.120 to,

00:28:47.360 to be lost.

00:28:53.340 You're listening to the best

00:28:54.860 of the Glenn Beck program.

00:28:56.100 Well,

00:29:06.800 if you,

00:29:07.040 if you haven't read this yet,

00:29:07.960 it's,

00:29:08.220 it's disturbing.

00:29:09.440 It's a disturbing read

00:29:10.180 and it's a long read,

00:29:10.920 but the Miami Herald

00:29:11.700 has done an investigation

00:29:12.920 into,

00:29:14.120 uh,

00:29:14.780 Jeffrey Epstein.

00:29:16.000 Uh,

00:29:16.420 now,

00:29:17.060 if I were to say to you

00:29:17.960 that name,

00:29:18.580 or Jeffrey Epstein,

00:29:19.560 is that Jeffrey Epstein?

00:29:20.480 I get that confused.

00:29:21.040 I don't remember.

00:29:21.520 Um,

00:29:21.820 but when I said that name,

00:29:23.240 there's a,

00:29:23.700 there's another name

00:29:24.460 that immediately pops

00:29:25.660 into my head

00:29:26.240 when I say it.

00:29:27.400 For you?

00:29:28.100 Bill Clinton.

00:29:28.700 Bill Clinton.

00:29:29.140 That's exactly it.

00:29:29.920 Because there was a big time,

00:29:31.140 if you remember this,

00:29:31.840 there was a lot of reporting

00:29:32.600 on it,

00:29:33.060 bits and pieces at the time,

00:29:34.660 where this guy,

00:29:35.400 Jeffrey Epstein,

00:29:36.000 hedge fund guy,

00:29:36.760 really rich guy,

00:29:38.100 um,

00:29:38.580 took people like Bill Clinton

00:29:40.180 in his private jet

00:29:41.640 to all sorts of,

00:29:43.100 uh,

00:29:43.520 places around the world.

00:29:44.980 Including one island

00:29:46.160 that he owned

00:29:47.000 that was,

00:29:48.000 uh,

00:29:48.580 believed to have

00:29:49.920 sex slaves.

00:29:50.660 Sex slaves.

00:29:51.500 Um,

00:29:51.700 and,

00:29:51.960 and they called him,

00:29:53.260 an underage sex slaves,

00:29:54.440 by the way.

00:29:54.780 Um,

00:29:55.400 and on the plane,

00:29:56.220 they called it

00:29:56.580 the Lolita Express

00:29:57.960 was what the media

00:29:58.740 kind of picked it up.

00:29:59.560 And Bill Clinton

00:30:00.020 was good friends

00:30:01.100 and really close.

00:30:02.600 Uh,

00:30:02.640 the guy was very close,

00:30:03.840 very tied into politics

00:30:04.940 in general.

00:30:06.060 Um,

00:30:06.700 and so,

00:30:07.560 it was amazing

00:30:09.160 when that popped out

00:30:10.020 to see the headline

00:30:10.840 from the Miami Herald.

00:30:11.940 This is separate

00:30:12.540 from the story

00:30:13.140 and there's amazing

00:30:14.000 reporting in it.

00:30:14.940 The headline,

00:30:15.460 however,

00:30:15.600 is how a future

00:30:16.940 Trump cabinet member

00:30:18.140 gave serial sex abuser

00:30:19.420 the deal of a lifetime.

00:30:21.440 So again,

00:30:22.100 the obsession

00:30:22.600 with Trump

00:30:23.060 continues here.

00:30:23.800 Now,

00:30:24.160 Trump is,

00:30:25.500 he also was on

00:30:26.420 this plane.

00:30:27.540 Um,

00:30:27.760 he also was

00:30:28.520 friendly with this guy

00:30:30.700 who's a very powerful

00:30:31.500 guy in the community.

00:30:32.340 It does not condemn

00:30:33.180 Bill Clinton

00:30:33.700 that he slept

00:30:34.260 with minor,

00:30:34.820 with minors,

00:30:35.440 and it does not

00:30:35.900 condemn Donald Trump

00:30:36.800 that he slept

00:30:37.300 with minors.

00:30:37.820 There's no evidence

00:30:39.120 of that at all.

00:30:40.220 Um,

00:30:40.400 but they were,

00:30:41.180 this guy was a big money guy.

00:30:42.560 He was very friendly

00:30:43.240 with people in the community.

00:30:44.080 He lived in Palm Beach.

00:30:45.400 One of the girls

00:30:46.400 who was abducted

00:30:47.380 worked at Mar-a-Lago.

00:30:48.980 One of the women

00:30:49.780 who was actually abused,

00:30:50.880 that's revealed in this story,

00:30:51.760 I think,

00:30:52.060 for the first time.

00:30:52.780 Wow.

00:30:53.260 Um,

00:30:53.440 was actually,

00:30:53.920 was actually approached

00:30:55.420 at Mar-a-Lago

00:30:56.380 to do this.

00:30:58.120 The way it happened

00:30:59.360 is insane,

00:31:00.580 though.

00:31:01.560 He,

00:31:02.120 uh,

00:31:02.340 Jeffrey Epstein,

00:31:03.280 had a,

00:31:03.840 he has multiple mansions

00:31:04.840 and he has a private island,

00:31:05.900 but the multi,

00:31:06.400 the mansion he has

00:31:07.100 in Palm Beach,

00:31:08.120 he would,

00:31:09.220 uh,

00:31:09.800 he went out

00:31:10.460 and was able to recruit

00:31:11.800 16,

00:31:13.600 15,

00:31:14.160 14-year-old,

00:31:15.960 13-year-old girls

00:31:17.300 from local high schools

00:31:19.280 and middle schools

00:31:20.860 in the area.

00:31:22.400 And,

00:31:22.940 the way it would work

00:31:24.040 is he got,

00:31:25.440 at the beginning

00:31:26.120 there was only one,

00:31:27.540 brought in one,

00:31:28.600 and it was,

00:31:29.460 somehow he convinced her

00:31:30.540 to give him a massage

00:31:31.520 for $200.

00:31:33.560 Um,

00:31:34.080 now the massage,

00:31:35.340 some,

00:31:36.740 would,

00:31:37.160 I don't think the first one

00:31:38.400 didn't even turn sexual,

00:31:40.400 but it started to escalate.

00:31:42.240 And,

00:31:42.760 when he would get bored

00:31:43.700 of the girl,

00:31:44.380 which a lot of times

00:31:44.940 was after the first

00:31:45.640 or second interaction,

00:31:47.240 he would offer them

00:31:48.120 more money

00:31:48.760 to,

00:31:50.140 first of all,

00:31:50.780 get more sexual

00:31:51.420 and do more sexual things

00:31:52.940 with these underage girls.

00:31:54.580 And some of them

00:31:55.140 he had sex with,

00:31:56.320 some of them

00:31:56.780 he did all sorts of crazy,

00:31:58.260 uh,

00:31:58.760 you know,

00:31:59.080 twisted sort of stuff with.

00:32:00.720 Um,

00:32:00.980 but then he would pay them

00:32:01.880 even more

00:32:02.400 to go out and recruit

00:32:03.640 new girls

00:32:04.360 from their high schools,

00:32:06.040 from their middle schools,

00:32:07.500 from the mall,

00:32:09.040 from all of these local,

00:32:10.320 uh,

00:32:10.780 places where teenagers

00:32:11.640 hang out.

00:32:12.200 He essentially turned it

00:32:13.540 into a underage sex

00:32:15.240 pyramid scheme

00:32:16.080 in which he would

00:32:16.980 reward the girls

00:32:18.140 who were in early

00:32:18.900 to go recruit new

00:32:20.080 girls to come in.

00:32:22.040 They go through,

00:32:23.180 they now have,

00:32:24.040 for the first time,

00:32:25.380 um,

00:32:26.000 a bunch of these women

00:32:27.060 giving interviews

00:32:28.440 about,

00:32:29.080 about what happened.

00:32:29.940 And this is not like

00:32:30.620 ancient history,

00:32:31.500 this is the mid-2000s,

00:32:32.740 like 2005 to 2008,

00:32:34.700 something like that.

00:32:35.240 and they would come in,

00:32:37.820 they'd,

00:32:38.080 they'd have sex with him.

00:32:39.500 He had another sex slave

00:32:40.880 that he had apparently

00:32:41.540 imported from,

00:32:42.660 uh,

00:32:42.920 the Eastern Bloc

00:32:43.620 that would,

00:32:44.560 would,

00:32:44.820 was hooking up

00:32:45.500 with the girls

00:32:46.120 while he was watching.

00:32:47.220 I mean,

00:32:47.640 there was a lot of

00:32:48.560 sort of twisted sexual

00:32:49.580 stuff that went on.

00:32:50.900 Um,

00:32:51.260 and of course these,

00:32:52.180 you know,

00:32:52.420 they were all,

00:32:53.600 almost all,

00:32:54.340 uh,

00:32:54.840 targeted in communities

00:32:56.680 where,

00:32:57.080 uh,

00:32:57.420 in households

00:32:57.940 where they were in need.

00:32:59.380 They were,

00:33:00.100 um,

00:33:00.580 disadvantaged people

00:33:01.960 who didn't have money,

00:33:02.940 who were abused.

00:33:03.880 I mean,

00:33:04.100 it was all the typical

00:33:04.980 sort of horrible

00:33:05.860 stereotypes you'd expect

00:33:06.880 out of the situation

00:33:07.540 and it was people

00:33:08.240 who would jump at $200

00:33:09.060 for almost anything.

00:33:10.620 Um,

00:33:10.940 so he was able

00:33:12.020 to just keep paying

00:33:12.800 and paying and paying

00:33:13.680 and when he,

00:33:15.640 and you think about yourself,

00:33:17.280 it got up to the point

00:33:18.300 of like a hundred

00:33:19.260 different teenagers.

00:33:21.640 A hundred

00:33:22.320 he was able to do this with

00:33:24.120 over a relatively quick

00:33:25.460 period of time.

00:33:26.180 They talk about times

00:33:26.800 where he'd have three

00:33:27.460 of them in,

00:33:27.860 in a day.

00:33:29.140 Three in a day.

00:33:30.500 He would,

00:33:30.960 his appetite was,

00:33:32.740 uh,

00:33:33.260 not able to be,

00:33:34.160 uh,

00:33:34.680 filled.

00:33:35.560 Yeah.

00:33:36.040 So,

00:33:36.860 um,

00:33:37.880 they go through this

00:33:38.460 whole thing.

00:33:39.000 Eventually,

00:33:39.620 as you'd kind of expect,

00:33:40.740 you get a hundred

00:33:41.480 different teenagers

00:33:42.620 in a situation like this.

00:33:44.540 Eventually,

00:33:44.900 one of them talks.

00:33:45.880 The police goes,

00:33:47.360 talks to their parent.

00:33:48.520 The police goes,

00:33:49.660 interviews them,

00:33:50.220 finds out,

00:33:50.580 oh my gosh,

00:33:51.100 well,

00:33:51.580 this,

00:33:51.840 is this credible?

00:33:52.580 This really rich,

00:33:53.260 you know,

00:33:53.440 important guy here.

00:33:54.760 Um,

00:33:54.980 did he do this?

00:33:55.900 Well,

00:33:56.240 that one gives them

00:33:56.980 two other names,

00:33:57.700 the people who

00:33:58.280 they recruited

00:33:59.400 and who recruited them.

00:34:01.220 Anyway,

00:34:02.000 every time they go

00:34:02.840 to a new girl,

00:34:03.580 there's two or three

00:34:04.200 more names they're getting

00:34:05.020 and the list builds

00:34:05.960 and builds and builds

00:34:06.580 and builds and eventually

00:34:07.240 gets to like a hundred.

00:34:09.240 So,

00:34:09.700 the story is already

00:34:11.020 super twisted at this point.

00:34:12.620 Um,

00:34:12.940 they all have really

00:34:14.020 credible stories.

00:34:14.860 They can describe

00:34:15.460 the insides of the house.

00:34:16.580 They can describe

00:34:17.140 what was in certain drawers,

00:34:18.740 like sex toys,

00:34:19.720 where they were.

00:34:20.860 They go,

00:34:21.400 uh,

00:34:21.600 eventually the police

00:34:22.280 raid the house.

00:34:23.120 They have,

00:34:23.740 I mean,

00:34:24.620 everything.

00:34:25.240 They have names.

00:34:26.200 All of the names

00:34:27.320 are on the flight registry

00:34:28.680 from flying them

00:34:29.420 all around the world,

00:34:30.140 some of them.

00:34:30.940 Um,

00:34:31.260 they have,

00:34:31.900 uh,

00:34:32.460 uh,

00:34:33.420 black books

00:34:34.160 with phone numbers

00:34:35.080 of all these,

00:34:35.880 like,

00:34:36.120 you know,

00:34:36.340 15,

00:34:36.960 16 year old girls

00:34:38.320 that came over

00:34:38.880 for massages.

00:34:40.320 Um,

00:34:40.760 you know,

00:34:41.020 now there's been

00:34:41.500 accusations from

00:34:42.200 some of the girls

00:34:42.720 that he would

00:34:43.520 loan them out

00:34:44.180 to other,

00:34:44.720 uh,

00:34:45.700 uh,

00:34:46.060 people,

00:34:46.780 all VIPs.

00:34:47.920 That's not necessarily

00:34:48.940 confirmed in here.

00:34:50.100 Um,

00:34:50.480 but they go through

00:34:51.560 all of that,

00:34:52.600 uh,

00:34:53.240 sorted stuff.

00:34:54.560 Then,

00:34:55.160 what really kind of

00:34:56.180 the Miami Herald

00:34:57.680 and again,

00:34:58.340 despite the title

00:34:59.360 of it,

00:35:00.040 and this is where

00:35:00.680 they focus some of it.

00:35:01.780 It's an incredible

00:35:02.460 piece of reporting.

00:35:03.360 It really is.

00:35:04.360 Um,

00:35:04.700 but they go into

00:35:05.660 talking about

00:35:06.640 the actual investigation.

00:35:08.340 The police

00:35:09.220 tried,

00:35:10.460 did everything they could

00:35:11.420 to try to make this,

00:35:12.500 um,

00:35:13.220 this case stick.

00:35:14.300 I mean,

00:35:14.620 the people who are

00:35:15.260 actually investigating it

00:35:16.320 really seemed to care

00:35:17.500 and,

00:35:17.880 and did everything they could

00:35:18.840 to make this stick.

00:35:19.940 But,

00:35:20.820 political influence,

00:35:21.820 money,

00:35:22.540 um,

00:35:22.940 was able to

00:35:23.960 get him to a position

00:35:25.540 where,

00:35:25.940 the,

00:35:26.800 the,

00:35:27.280 the higher-ups

00:35:28.520 locally were

00:35:29.400 actually negotiating

00:35:30.600 and having

00:35:31.420 the defense attorneys

00:35:33.180 help write

00:35:34.300 the deal

00:35:36.000 that was being made.

00:35:37.400 Now,

00:35:37.560 again,

00:35:38.300 you have,

00:35:38.900 you hook up

00:35:39.460 with one 15-year-old

00:35:41.620 and this guy's like 50.

00:35:43.080 That's,

00:35:43.640 you're basically,

00:35:44.520 I mean,

00:35:44.860 in my mind,

00:35:45.460 you're in jail forever.

00:35:46.540 You're,

00:35:46.880 you're everything

00:35:47.740 that people accused,

00:35:49.120 uh,

00:35:49.520 Roy Moore of.

00:35:50.400 Right.

00:35:50.820 I mean,

00:35:51.380 it's way worse

00:35:52.420 than what Roy Moore

00:35:53.280 was accused of.

00:35:53.980 Horrible.

00:35:54.460 Way worse.

00:35:54.880 Horrible.

00:35:55.040 It's not even remotely close.

00:35:56.280 Of course,

00:35:56.440 he did donate.

00:35:56.840 No,

00:35:56.920 with one.

00:35:57.700 With one.

00:35:58.260 With one.

00:35:58.640 Yeah.

00:35:59.220 This is 100.

00:36:00.720 So,

00:36:01.180 this guy should obviously

00:36:02.160 be in jail for,

00:36:02.940 for,

00:36:03.280 uh,

00:36:03.560 ever.

00:36:04.320 So,

00:36:04.560 the,

00:36:05.300 it's,

00:36:05.760 the,

00:36:06.200 the police locally

00:36:07.200 got,

00:36:07.620 started getting wind

00:36:08.160 that this was,

00:36:08.800 they were trying to make

00:36:09.500 a deal with this guy.

00:36:10.340 They're like,

00:36:10.580 what,

00:36:10.760 this is crazy.

00:36:12.040 Now,

00:36:12.260 the Trump official

00:36:12.960 was the guy

00:36:13.540 who was the,

00:36:14.320 the local,

00:36:14.860 uh,

00:36:15.400 district attorney,

00:36:16.240 or I can't remember,

00:36:17.160 it's not even that,

00:36:18.220 it's another position,

00:36:19.040 I lost the name of it,

00:36:20.000 but it was,

00:36:20.260 he was the guy

00:36:20.660 who,

00:36:20.860 who had the power

00:36:21.620 to make the deal.

00:36:22.520 And there was a couple

00:36:23.280 people who were

00:36:23.920 in power to do it.

00:36:25.960 Uh,

00:36:25.980 uh,

00:36:26.340 uh,

00:36:26.600 Costa is his name,

00:36:27.420 he's the current

00:36:27.780 labor secretary.

00:36:28.660 His defense is,

00:36:29.540 look,

00:36:30.100 the other guy

00:36:30.600 we were dealing with

00:36:31.240 wanted to just make it

00:36:32.460 a misdemeanor and go away.

00:36:33.620 So,

00:36:34.020 I got a better deal

00:36:34.700 than that.

00:36:35.100 He had to register

00:36:35.720 as a sex offender.

00:36:36.680 He was charged

00:36:37.640 with two counts

00:36:38.200 of felony prostitution,

00:36:39.500 one with an underage,

00:36:40.520 two counts,

00:36:41.740 two,

00:36:42.080 there's a hundred.

00:36:43.240 Um,

00:36:43.900 so,

00:36:44.560 he basically got,

00:36:45.960 uh,

00:36:46.420 uh,

00:36:47.560 the,

00:36:47.820 the,

00:36:48.100 the cops

00:36:48.800 locally were like,

00:36:50.160 we can see what's

00:36:51.200 going on here.

00:36:51.720 So,

00:36:51.920 they turned the investigation

00:36:52.740 over to the FBI

00:36:53.860 and the FBI

00:36:55.040 started looking into it

00:36:55.920 and they found

00:36:56.660 tons of stuff.

00:36:57.620 In the middle

00:36:58.300 of the FBI

00:36:58.820 investigation,

00:36:59.400 they sign a deal

00:37:00.620 where he gets just

00:37:02.580 13 months,

00:37:03.540 I think it was,

00:37:04.080 in prison.

00:37:05.000 13 months.

00:37:06.420 And,

00:37:06.820 in there is a promise

00:37:08.820 not to prosecute,

00:37:10.300 which,

00:37:10.880 I had no idea

00:37:11.680 this was a thing.

00:37:13.140 I didn't even know

00:37:13.620 this could happen.

00:37:14.460 A local official

00:37:15.260 signs a deal

00:37:16.120 not to prosecute.

00:37:17.020 So,

00:37:17.420 it cancels the FBI's

00:37:18.720 investigation.

00:37:19.380 They can't do anything

00:37:20.220 because they signed a deal

00:37:21.400 where nobody can get

00:37:22.100 prosecuted.

00:37:22.680 Not only can he not

00:37:23.560 get prosecuted,

00:37:24.680 they sealed all the records

00:37:26.060 and,

00:37:26.760 in addition to that,

00:37:27.960 no one else

00:37:28.620 associated with him

00:37:29.720 can get prosecuted

00:37:30.540 over this.

00:37:31.800 So,

00:37:32.040 if he did loan them

00:37:33.300 out to other VIPs,

00:37:34.280 they can't get prosecuted.

00:37:36.060 Unbelievable.

00:37:37.600 He goes to jail,

00:37:39.280 13 months in jail,

00:37:41.320 they give him a private

00:37:42.220 wing of a prison,

00:37:43.340 Oh my gosh.

00:37:43.920 with his own

00:37:44.460 personal security,

00:37:45.640 Oh my gosh.

00:37:46.100 and they let him leave

00:37:47.020 and go to the office

00:37:47.800 12 hours a day.

00:37:49.880 This is his prison term.

00:37:51.260 He leaves and go to

00:37:52.100 his own office

00:37:52.780 for 12 hours a day

00:37:54.240 and he gets to have

00:37:55.680 lunch outside

00:37:56.680 in the park.

00:37:58.160 This is,

00:37:58.800 I can't remember the name

00:37:59.740 of the character,

00:38:00.820 from Daredevil.

00:38:02.820 In Daredevil,

00:38:04.080 this Marvel thing

00:38:05.700 on Netflix,

00:38:06.800 the chief bad guy,

00:38:08.440 horrible,

00:38:09.140 horrible human being.

00:38:10.520 He's let out

00:38:11.320 by the FBI.

00:38:12.400 He can live

00:38:12.940 in the top floor

00:38:13.760 of this,

00:38:14.400 you know,

00:38:14.620 like Ritz Carlton.

00:38:15.860 He's living a luxury life.

00:38:17.840 He's got everything back,

00:38:19.100 but,

00:38:19.680 you know,

00:38:20.360 he just,

00:38:20.980 he has some strings

00:38:21.640 he can pull.

00:38:22.520 It's unbelievable

00:38:23.840 that it's happening

00:38:24.700 in real life

00:38:25.440 and in America.

00:38:26.920 This is the kind

00:38:28.000 of stuff

00:38:28.540 that people are

00:38:29.500 fleeing their country

00:38:31.400 to get to us

00:38:33.460 because there is

00:38:34.500 no rule of law.

00:38:40.180 This is the best

00:38:41.280 of the Glenn Beck program

00:38:42.160 and don't forget,

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00:38:48.640 Mike Lee,

00:38:49.860 Senator from,

00:38:50.780 the senior

00:38:51.660 Senator from Utah

00:38:53.020 is on with us now.

00:38:54.880 Hello, Mike.

00:38:55.340 How are you?

00:38:56.700 Doing great.

00:38:57.820 Good to be with you.

00:38:58.840 Thanks.

00:38:59.300 I want to talk to you

00:38:59.980 about a couple of things

00:39:01.540 and I think

00:39:02.880 one of the reasons

00:39:03.880 why I really like you

00:39:04.780 is because

00:39:05.300 you always look at things

00:39:07.200 through the Constitution.

00:39:08.460 I mean,

00:39:08.720 you,

00:39:09.060 you know,

00:39:09.740 you were a clerk

00:39:10.440 for Supreme Court

00:39:11.580 justices

00:39:12.140 and you're talking

00:39:14.820 about,

00:39:15.340 I want to talk

00:39:15.840 to you about

00:39:16.140 two different bills.

00:39:17.600 One is about

00:39:19.920 protecting

00:39:21.140 presidential power.

00:39:24.280 Can you tell me

00:39:25.160 about this

00:39:25.700 with Manafort?

00:39:27.900 I'm sorry,

00:39:28.580 Mueller.

00:39:30.040 Yeah,

00:39:30.460 yeah,

00:39:30.680 sure.

00:39:30.880 So,

00:39:31.700 the Flake-Kuhn

00:39:33.220 legislation

00:39:33.980 is designed

00:39:35.460 to protect

00:39:36.360 Robert Mueller

00:39:37.320 from being fired.

00:39:38.660 There's only one

00:39:39.240 problem with that.

00:39:40.560 It's not constitutional.

00:39:42.600 Justice Scalia

00:39:43.500 pointed out

00:39:44.480 in a great opinion

00:39:45.380 he wrote

00:39:45.780 in a case

00:39:46.140 called Morris

00:39:46.760 and V. Olson

00:39:47.500 that the Department

00:39:49.380 of Justice

00:39:49.840 is part of

00:39:50.540 the executive branch.

00:39:51.720 It's run

00:39:52.460 by an attorney general

00:39:54.200 who's appointed

00:39:54.820 by the president,

00:39:55.860 confirmed by the Senate,

00:39:57.020 serves at the pleasure

00:39:57.780 of the president.

00:39:58.880 You can't create

00:40:00.240 a new de facto

00:40:01.620 fourth branch

00:40:02.420 of government

00:40:02.860 within the Department

00:40:03.880 of Justice,

00:40:04.520 one that's completely

00:40:05.240 isolated

00:40:05.940 and insulated

00:40:07.160 from the executive

00:40:08.540 branch's chief

00:40:09.240 executive officer.

00:40:10.420 It's wrong

00:40:11.100 to do that.

00:40:11.660 For that reason,

00:40:12.480 the Congress

00:40:12.840 allowed the former

00:40:13.860 independent council

00:40:14.800 statute to expire.

00:40:16.680 What Coons and Flake

00:40:18.040 are trying to do

00:40:18.700 with this bill

00:40:19.320 would be to create

00:40:20.140 a new de facto

00:40:21.060 type of independent council.

00:40:22.720 That's wrong.

00:40:23.420 It's unconstitutional

00:40:24.200 and I oppose it.

00:40:25.880 Okay,

00:40:26.380 so I just want to make

00:40:27.320 sure I understand

00:40:27.900 this helps the president

00:40:29.220 but this is not something

00:40:30.160 that you're trying to do

00:40:30.860 to help the president.

00:40:31.600 You're trying to make sure

00:40:32.260 we protect the constitution

00:40:33.480 and the structure

00:40:34.240 of our country.

00:40:35.000 That's exactly right.

00:40:37.220 I'd be doing the same thing

00:40:38.160 with a democratic president

00:40:39.480 because this is about

00:40:41.500 the structure

00:40:42.000 of the constitution

00:40:42.840 and that is

00:40:43.880 a non-partisan issue.

00:40:45.520 So the president,

00:40:47.300 because he's

00:40:47.820 the chief executive,

00:40:49.080 he oversees

00:40:50.200 and he runs

00:40:50.940 these departments,

00:40:52.560 the Department

00:40:53.020 of Justice.

00:40:54.640 So he is

00:40:55.680 the chief executive

00:40:56.440 so he's the guy

00:40:57.600 who can fire

00:40:58.680 and hire.

00:40:59.720 Now,

00:41:00.020 that could be

00:41:00.960 horrible politically

00:41:01.980 for him?

00:41:03.480 Could the Senate

00:41:05.200 or the House,

00:41:06.100 Congress,

00:41:06.540 take any action

00:41:07.700 against him

00:41:08.600 constitutionally

00:41:09.740 if he did do this

00:41:11.760 or is it just...

00:41:12.940 Oh, sure.

00:41:13.560 Okay.

00:41:14.040 Sure.

00:41:14.600 There's no doubt

00:41:15.520 there would be

00:41:15.980 political consequences

00:41:17.020 and there's no doubt

00:41:18.560 that there are

00:41:19.140 some things

00:41:19.940 that would happen

00:41:20.880 in response to it

00:41:22.020 in the Congress

00:41:22.620 if he did it.

00:41:24.400 And that's one

00:41:25.280 of the reasons

00:41:25.760 why I don't think

00:41:27.060 he's going to fire him.

00:41:27.900 First of all,

00:41:28.500 it's been almost

00:41:29.100 two years for crying out loud.

00:41:30.280 I think he would have fired him

00:41:31.180 by now if he was going to.

00:41:32.580 Right.

00:41:33.800 Secondly,

00:41:34.420 he knows

00:41:35.100 that there would be

00:41:36.540 dire political consequences

00:41:37.860 for him doing so.

00:41:39.320 And that's why

00:41:39.720 he's not going to do it anyway.

00:41:40.980 That's why this is

00:41:41.800 much ado about nothing

00:41:44.280 in my opinion.

00:41:45.280 In any event,

00:41:46.180 even if it were not

00:41:46.980 much ado about nothing,

00:41:48.480 it's still constitutional

00:41:49.900 and we shouldn't do it.

00:41:52.060 Because it would then

00:41:53.760 create

00:41:54.480 a fourth branch

00:41:56.460 that the

00:41:57.420 Congress

00:41:58.320 is overseeing

00:41:59.640 in the Justice Department,

00:42:01.480 right?

00:42:02.560 Yeah,

00:42:03.040 yeah,

00:42:03.300 effectively.

00:42:04.340 Because

00:42:04.820 this is a principal

00:42:07.400 prosecutorial officer.

00:42:09.640 All of our

00:42:10.200 U.S. attorneys

00:42:11.180 in the country,

00:42:12.300 like the Attorney General

00:42:13.420 himself,

00:42:14.080 are appointed

00:42:14.700 by the President,

00:42:15.320 confirmed by the Senate,

00:42:16.160 and serve at the pleasure

00:42:16.900 of the President.

00:42:17.920 That's how the system works.

00:42:19.940 This bill would create

00:42:21.200 a mini

00:42:22.980 Department of Justice

00:42:24.160 within the Department of Justice,

00:42:25.520 one that would operate

00:42:26.360 outside of the

00:42:27.340 executive branch

00:42:27.980 chain of authority,

00:42:28.720 and that's not okay.

00:42:29.680 So if I can break this

00:42:30.760 down for people

00:42:31.460 in ways that maybe

00:42:32.540 they understand

00:42:33.640 in their real life,

00:42:35.080 you know,

00:42:36.280 we all may have

00:42:37.500 our own roles

00:42:38.440 as mom and dad,

00:42:40.260 but mom and dad

00:42:41.060 have to agree

00:42:41.960 that

00:42:42.760 what the roles

00:42:44.260 and the rules are.

00:42:45.560 This is like

00:42:46.560 you saying no

00:42:47.960 to your son

00:42:48.700 or daughter

00:42:49.120 for going to a movie,

00:42:51.020 and then mom says,

00:42:52.120 well, no,

00:42:52.520 there's this special

00:42:53.220 carve-out over here.

00:42:54.620 Dad can't say that

00:42:55.700 on this movie

00:42:56.500 because I disagree

00:42:57.920 with him.

00:42:58.340 Yes, you can go.

00:42:59.320 That just causes

00:42:59.980 chaos in the family

00:43:01.520 and destroys the family

00:43:02.780 in the end.

00:43:04.720 Yeah.

00:43:05.640 The analogy's

00:43:06.560 not perfect,

00:43:07.400 but I'll give you

00:43:08.700 points for trying.

00:43:10.880 It gets close.

00:43:12.120 It gets close.

00:43:12.720 Okay, all right.

00:43:14.000 Mike,

00:43:14.540 there is the

00:43:15.260 other that you

00:43:16.700 are really

00:43:17.120 in some ways

00:43:18.020 getting hammered

00:43:19.680 for by conservatives

00:43:20.840 on criminal justice

00:43:23.060 reform,

00:43:23.820 and you've been

00:43:25.060 spearheading this

00:43:27.360 along with others,

00:43:28.460 and I happen

00:43:29.560 to agree with you,

00:43:31.120 but some conservatives

00:43:32.900 are saying,

00:43:33.680 well,

00:43:33.820 you're just going

00:43:34.540 soft on crime.

00:43:36.940 Yeah,

00:43:37.560 the opposite

00:43:38.460 is true.

00:43:39.420 They could not

00:43:40.080 be more wrong.

00:43:41.280 In order to fight crime,

00:43:43.140 we have to be smart

00:43:44.200 about the way

00:43:44.960 we fight it.

00:43:46.780 Michael Mukasey,

00:43:48.320 hardly a squish,

00:43:49.800 former attorney general

00:43:50.900 of the United States,

00:43:51.640 former federal judge,

00:43:53.400 and real hard-nosed

00:43:54.880 prosecutor,

00:43:56.400 has explained

00:43:57.960 that pretty soon

00:43:59.400 we will cross

00:44:00.060 the threshold

00:44:00.620 where more than

00:44:01.660 one-third

00:44:02.120 of the money

00:44:03.240 going into

00:44:03.660 the Department

00:44:04.100 of Justice

00:44:04.520 goes to running

00:44:05.720 the prisons.

00:44:06.860 Part of this

00:44:07.440 is because of the fact

00:44:08.300 that we've relied

00:44:08.900 on these sometimes

00:44:10.020 excessive minimum

00:44:11.200 mandatory penalties

00:44:12.360 within the federal

00:44:14.080 criminal justice system.

00:44:16.260 Guys like this guy,

00:44:17.360 Weldon Angelos,

00:44:18.060 who I've talked about

00:44:18.620 in the past,

00:44:19.040 who sold three

00:44:19.680 dime bags of pot

00:44:20.660 while carrying a gun

00:44:22.000 and he got 55 years

00:44:23.440 in prison for it.

00:44:24.280 It's ridiculous

00:44:24.880 and it diminishes

00:44:26.680 our ability

00:44:27.380 to fight crime

00:44:28.080 effectively.

00:44:29.080 So our bill

00:44:29.620 would fix problems

00:44:30.420 like that,

00:44:30.960 giving judges

00:44:31.460 an added degree

00:44:32.460 of discretion

00:44:33.040 to put the long,

00:44:34.880 the really bad people,

00:44:36.620 the dangerous people

00:44:37.260 behind bars

00:44:37.860 for a long time,

00:44:39.200 but make the right choice

00:44:40.920 on other pieces of risk.

00:44:42.420 This bill would also

00:44:43.680 provide incentives

00:44:45.760 for prisoners

00:44:46.520 to go through

00:44:47.300 training exercises

00:44:48.720 that will have been

00:44:49.580 proven to reduce

00:44:51.020 their rate of

00:44:51.840 recommitting an offense

00:44:52.720 once they get out.

00:44:53.640 This will make

00:44:54.320 the American people safe

00:44:55.440 and that's why

00:44:56.640 President Trump

00:44:57.180 supports it.

00:44:57.900 That's why I'm proud

00:44:59.160 to be part of this effort.

00:45:01.080 Mike,

00:45:01.820 why have we not

00:45:03.280 heard any,

00:45:05.060 the president

00:45:06.520 come out

00:45:07.360 in favor

00:45:08.200 or anyone in Congress

00:45:10.100 stand up

00:45:10.720 for Asia Bibi

00:45:11.720 and say

00:45:12.760 we welcome

00:45:13.980 Asia Bibi,

00:45:14.940 the Christian

00:45:15.640 from Pakistan

00:45:16.380 that has

00:45:17.060 spent nine years

00:45:19.680 in prison

00:45:20.300 because she

00:45:21.120 blasphemed the prophet

00:45:22.200 and Supreme Court

00:45:23.880 in Pakistan

00:45:24.540 heard her case

00:45:25.600 and said it was

00:45:26.180 a travesty of justice

00:45:27.520 and because of that

00:45:29.400 her and her family

00:45:30.660 under threat.

00:45:31.480 England has passed.

00:45:32.980 Germany has passed.

00:45:34.640 Why are we not

00:45:35.220 leading the way

00:45:35.760 on this?

00:45:37.080 I don't know.

00:45:38.500 That's a good question.

00:45:39.660 I'm happy to look

00:45:40.900 into that.

00:45:41.480 Would you?

00:45:41.980 Look,

00:45:42.240 we've got countries,

00:45:43.380 yeah,

00:45:43.580 I'd be happy to.

00:45:44.400 We've got countries

00:45:45.040 around the world

00:45:45.560 who do crazy things.

00:45:47.060 This sounds like

00:45:47.580 a particularly egregious one

00:45:49.040 and whenever we've got

00:45:51.440 a country that purports

00:45:52.840 to be an ally

00:45:53.580 in at least some respects,

00:45:55.220 we ought to be able

00:45:55.940 to exercise some degree

00:45:57.160 of leverage on that.

00:45:58.040 I mean,

00:45:58.200 we have,

00:45:58.740 we have,

00:45:59.520 you know,

00:46:01.340 we should be welcoming.

00:46:03.360 We're having this problem

00:46:04.340 at the border now

00:46:05.180 and we're having a debate

00:46:06.440 on what a refugee is.

00:46:08.560 Well,

00:46:08.980 here's one.

00:46:10.260 Here's a Catholic woman

00:46:11.960 who refuses to deny her faith

00:46:14.300 and so she is,

00:46:16.080 she is going to be beheaded

00:46:17.460 and dragged through the streets.

00:46:19.000 She's in hiding now.

00:46:20.360 She's trying to get

00:46:21.240 a Western country

00:46:21.960 to take her.

00:46:23.340 Nobody will.

00:46:24.260 And at the same time,

00:46:25.440 we have two million people now,

00:46:28.060 these Uyghurs,

00:46:29.100 in concentration camps

00:46:30.980 in China.

00:46:32.360 And in Washington, D.C.,

00:46:33.740 just two days ago,

00:46:34.800 there was this woman

00:46:35.960 who has escaped from China.

00:46:37.620 She was pulled into

00:46:38.900 one of these camps

00:46:39.720 five times

00:46:41.400 and she begged them

00:46:42.680 for death.

00:46:43.500 They're doing things

00:46:44.900 that are worse

00:46:45.800 than George Orwell

00:46:46.880 was doing in 1984.

00:46:48.800 And I think

00:46:49.720 they're trying to sterilize

00:46:51.280 the entire Uyghur population.

00:46:53.700 And we don't seem

00:46:54.900 to even be talking

00:46:56.040 about this.

00:46:57.580 We should be,

00:46:58.220 as a government,

00:46:59.840 as a party,

00:47:01.260 we should be showing

00:47:02.660 the world

00:47:03.220 what a real refugee

00:47:04.800 looks like.

00:47:05.600 And it's not somebody

00:47:06.640 who wants to come here

00:47:07.300 for more economic opportunity.

00:47:09.380 A real refugee

00:47:10.500 is somebody

00:47:11.180 like these people.

00:47:13.520 Yeah,

00:47:14.100 it's why we have

00:47:14.840 refugee programs.

00:47:15.960 It's why we have

00:47:16.540 asylum laws

00:47:17.380 is to take on

00:47:19.000 people like that

00:47:20.840 who are being persecuted.

00:47:22.660 And there is

00:47:23.360 a real distinction.

00:47:24.200 This is not to diminish

00:47:25.280 the direness

00:47:26.880 of anyone's circumstances

00:47:28.220 around the world.

00:47:29.500 But it is

00:47:30.640 very significant,

00:47:31.920 the distinction

00:47:32.440 between people

00:47:33.220 who live in a country

00:47:34.120 economically depressed

00:47:35.380 generally,

00:47:36.220 on the one hand,

00:47:37.260 and live in a country

00:47:38.220 where the government

00:47:38.880 is actively

00:47:39.840 persecuting people

00:47:40.840 based on their faith

00:47:41.800 or based on some

00:47:42.980 other immutable

00:47:43.780 characteristic,

00:47:44.860 based on who they are

00:47:46.780 more than what they do.

00:47:49.420 Mike,

00:47:49.980 I'm curious

00:47:50.420 if you have

00:47:50.800 any thoughts

00:47:52.120 on the investigation

00:47:53.440 on Jeffrey Epstein.

00:47:54.700 This just came out.

00:47:56.060 It has a lot to do

00:47:56.900 with,

00:47:57.380 I mean,

00:47:57.700 certainly a lot of

00:47:58.640 really shady

00:47:59.440 interactions,

00:48:01.700 a very seemingly

00:48:02.740 a sweetheart deal

00:48:03.620 in which,

00:48:04.040 you know,

00:48:04.280 he had reportedly,

00:48:06.600 allegedly,

00:48:07.260 you know,

00:48:08.300 done all sorts of

00:48:09.000 things to teenagers

00:48:09.880 and it was a very,

00:48:12.040 sort of,

00:48:12.860 really twisted tale

00:48:14.240 and he wound up

00:48:15.480 receiving 13 months

00:48:16.520 in prison

00:48:16.940 with all sorts

00:48:17.460 of beneficial treatment

00:48:18.440 and it certainly

00:48:19.240 seems like

00:48:19.880 he was the beneficiary

00:48:21.980 of his political

00:48:22.900 connections and his money.

00:48:24.500 Is there anything

00:48:25.000 we can do

00:48:25.440 to stop that sort

00:48:26.200 of thing from

00:48:26.560 happening going forward

00:48:27.360 and is there anything

00:48:27.940 we can do

00:48:28.880 about this particular case?

00:48:29.960 Probably not,

00:48:33.120 not anything

00:48:34.100 that we can do

00:48:34.620 about this particular case.

00:48:36.320 Once a deal

00:48:37.020 like that is done,

00:48:38.480 it can't really

00:48:40.420 be undone

00:48:41.240 as far as that deal

00:48:42.140 is concerned.

00:48:42.880 How do you,

00:48:43.560 in this case,

00:48:45.060 in this case,

00:48:46.520 there was,

00:48:47.180 he made a deal

00:48:48.340 with,

00:48:48.640 what was it,

00:48:48.980 the local prosecutor

00:48:49.900 not to prosecute?

00:48:51.800 Yeah,

00:48:52.040 I didn't even know

00:48:52.920 that was possible.

00:48:53.560 Basically,

00:48:53.820 they said they,

00:48:54.300 they,

00:48:54.540 they,

00:48:54.960 the agreement

00:48:55.640 was a non-prosecution

00:48:57.240 agreement which

00:48:58.060 covered not only him

00:49:00.120 but his friends

00:49:01.360 and others associated

00:49:03.060 with this,

00:49:03.900 these incidents

00:49:04.900 from being prosecuted

00:49:06.540 even by the FBI.

00:49:07.980 The way it read

00:49:08.900 was it essentially

00:49:09.480 canceled the FBI

00:49:10.800 investigation that

00:49:11.960 was going on.

00:49:12.500 Is that even possible,

00:49:13.320 Mike?

00:49:14.780 It does happen

00:49:15.860 in some instances.

00:49:16.780 I would want to know

00:49:17.860 more about it

00:49:18.720 before attacking it

00:49:20.080 wholeheartedly.

00:49:20.580 I will say,

00:49:21.560 normally that is not

00:49:22.360 the kind of sentence

00:49:23.000 you expect to see

00:49:24.000 from that type of

00:49:25.800 really violent

00:49:26.640 criminal behavior.

00:49:27.580 Once in a while

00:49:28.720 you will see

00:49:29.640 agreements like that

00:49:30.560 if there is

00:49:31.420 a failure

00:49:32.460 of evidentiary proof,

00:49:34.040 if there's

00:49:34.500 significant uncertainty

00:49:36.120 as to their ability

00:49:37.200 to prove the crime,

00:49:39.160 if there are

00:49:40.860 chain of custody

00:49:42.200 problems with

00:49:42.900 their evidence,

00:49:43.720 or if somebody

00:49:44.580 has the ability

00:49:46.540 to offer more evidence.

00:49:48.240 Circumstances like that

00:49:49.240 can come into a play,

00:49:50.340 but like I say,

00:49:51.380 that's not the kind

00:49:52.440 of response

00:49:54.580 from the government

00:49:55.140 that you typically see

00:49:56.320 with regard to offenses

00:49:57.680 like what you're

00:49:58.200 describing.

00:49:58.740 Because this kind

00:49:59.100 of goes back

00:49:59.460 to your bill

00:50:00.380 on criminal justice

00:50:01.060 reform.

00:50:01.460 I mean,

00:50:01.840 you know,

00:50:02.260 we can't be in a

00:50:03.020 country in which

00:50:03.700 someone who has

00:50:04.700 a small amount

00:50:05.680 of marijuana

00:50:06.320 gets 55 years

00:50:07.440 in prison

00:50:07.940 and Jeffrey Epstein

00:50:09.280 molests potentially

00:50:10.860 up to 100

00:50:11.580 underage teenagers.

00:50:13.160 It makes them

00:50:13.500 into slaves.

00:50:14.360 Yeah,

00:50:14.660 and winds up

00:50:15.620 with 13 months.

00:50:16.960 I mean,

00:50:17.120 because I think

00:50:17.560 when it comes

00:50:18.280 to criminal justice

00:50:18.880 reform,

00:50:19.340 is it both sides

00:50:20.240 of that?

00:50:20.520 Is it making sure

00:50:21.600 we punish

00:50:22.380 real criminals

00:50:24.220 more harshly

00:50:25.240 and ones that are

00:50:27.000 with minor offenses

00:50:28.020 a lot less harshly?

00:50:29.500 Is it both sides

00:50:30.520 of that equation?

00:50:31.880 No,

00:50:32.100 it absolutely is.

00:50:33.420 And this gets right

00:50:34.500 to the heart

00:50:34.880 of the point

00:50:35.280 I was trying to make

00:50:35.740 earlier,

00:50:36.140 which is that

00:50:37.220 this bill

00:50:38.580 that we're talking

00:50:39.420 about really

00:50:40.960 is hard on crime.

00:50:42.680 If you want to make

00:50:43.540 the American people

00:50:44.280 safer,

00:50:45.300 you should pass

00:50:45.880 this bill

00:50:46.280 because when

00:50:47.180 we're so focused

00:50:48.660 on locking

00:50:49.320 the guy

00:50:50.040 who sells

00:50:50.520 three dime bags

00:50:51.380 of pot

00:50:51.880 up for 55 years,

00:50:54.220 that ends up

00:50:55.280 having an effect

00:50:56.040 when you have

00:50:56.920 minimum mandatory

00:50:57.640 sentences that

00:50:58.640 automatically take

00:50:59.780 you there

00:51:00.140 and then you have

00:51:01.020 prosecutorial policies

00:51:02.220 that encourage

00:51:02.820 prosecutors to bring

00:51:04.140 those cases

00:51:04.640 because they're

00:51:05.180 easier to win,

00:51:06.420 easier to prove

00:51:07.140 and result in an

00:51:08.140 automatically really

00:51:09.380 high sentence.

00:51:10.400 You end up

00:51:11.500 missing the boat

00:51:13.100 or you end up

00:51:13.960 diverting scarce

00:51:15.200 resources away

00:51:16.040 from other

00:51:17.020 far more dangerous

00:51:18.380 offenders.

00:51:19.480 And so,

00:51:19.760 yeah,

00:51:19.920 I think this

00:51:20.440 quite arguably

00:51:21.620 helps prove

00:51:22.820 the need

00:51:23.520 for this bill.

00:51:24.740 Yeah,

00:51:24.800 I just think

00:51:25.260 that we're

00:51:26.400 growing into

00:51:27.340 this state

00:51:27.980 and it's

00:51:29.680 why people

00:51:30.900 are clamoring

00:51:31.480 to get here.

00:51:32.660 They're not

00:51:33.100 clamoring here

00:51:33.880 to work

00:51:35.580 at Walmart.

00:51:36.600 What they really

00:51:37.520 are clamoring

00:51:38.200 to work here

00:51:39.040 for is a

00:51:39.740 fair shake

00:51:40.540 and a system

00:51:41.920 of justice

00:51:43.300 that isn't

00:51:44.240 corrupt.

00:51:45.460 And it seems

00:51:46.240 like our

00:51:46.660 justice system

00:51:47.700 is becoming

00:51:48.680 one where

00:51:49.540 we're hammering

00:51:50.800 people for

00:51:51.300 doing very

00:51:52.120 little.

00:51:52.620 If you have

00:51:53.220 no connections,

00:51:54.380 you of course

00:51:55.100 get the maximum

00:51:55.840 sentence.

00:51:56.520 But if the

00:51:57.220 same person

00:51:57.800 has a lot

00:51:58.440 of connections,

00:51:58.960 they get

00:51:59.460 nothing.

00:52:00.020 They walk

00:52:00.320 away.

00:52:02.060 No,

00:52:02.640 that's exactly

00:52:03.120 right.

00:52:03.400 And that

00:52:03.600 undermines the

00:52:04.400 legitimacy of

00:52:05.800 the criminal

00:52:06.240 justice system.

00:52:07.300 It's yet another

00:52:08.360 reason why we

00:52:08.980 need to pass

00:52:09.540 this bill.

00:52:10.180 And I also

00:52:11.000 like how you

00:52:11.540 connected that

00:52:12.280 to the border

00:52:13.000 crisis.

00:52:14.140 I think the

00:52:14.980 two are

00:52:15.500 related.

00:52:16.100 Look, what

00:52:17.820 scares us

00:52:18.520 about this

00:52:19.140 is not the

00:52:20.000 country of

00:52:20.440 origin.

00:52:21.140 It's not

00:52:21.360 anything about

00:52:21.760 their ethnicity.

00:52:22.840 It's the

00:52:23.280 mob behavior

00:52:24.800 that we've

00:52:25.260 seen, the

00:52:26.200 mob lawlessness.

00:52:28.320 Now, if you

00:52:28.920 go to anywhere,

00:52:30.220 any venue in

00:52:31.600 your day-to-day

00:52:32.220 life, whether

00:52:32.800 it's church,

00:52:33.720 the grocery

00:52:34.220 store, a

00:52:35.260 sporting event,

00:52:36.180 a rock

00:52:36.580 concert, an

00:52:37.880 amusement park,

00:52:38.740 even your

00:52:39.600 workplace, chances

00:52:40.740 are pretty good

00:52:41.280 you're going to

00:52:41.580 have to cross

00:52:42.260 through a gate,

00:52:43.240 a fence, a

00:52:44.200 door, something

00:52:45.340 where there

00:52:46.040 are rules

00:52:46.720 governing your

00:52:47.320 entrance and

00:52:48.020 your exit, if

00:52:49.160 you break those

00:52:49.840 rules, especially

00:52:50.820 if you break

00:52:51.360 those rules as

00:52:52.040 part of a

00:52:52.420 large mob, there

00:52:53.380 will be

00:52:53.720 consequences, you

00:52:54.980 will be thrown

00:52:55.580 out.

00:52:56.300 And if you

00:52:56.880 can't be thrown

00:52:57.600 out, if we

00:52:58.420 reward the

00:52:59.120 behavior of a

00:52:59.820 mob in that

00:53:00.320 respect, those

00:53:01.400 same venues that

00:53:02.160 you today enjoy

00:53:03.120 will quickly

00:53:03.960 become ruined.

00:53:05.060 They will

00:53:05.460 quickly no longer

00:53:06.180 be created.

00:53:06.960 They won't be

00:53:07.420 there for you

00:53:07.980 to enjoy.

00:53:08.660 Well, I just

00:53:09.340 can't believe so

00:53:10.080 many people are

00:53:10.640 standing up for

00:53:11.340 this, as you

00:53:12.460 would say, this

00:53:13.200 mob.

00:53:13.600 And yet, at

00:53:16.040 the same time,

00:53:17.240 the people who

00:53:17.900 created those

00:53:18.720 mobs in

00:53:19.660 Europe, Hillary

00:53:21.240 Clinton, John

00:53:22.180 Kerry, the

00:53:23.040 policy that we

00:53:24.120 had in Libya,

00:53:25.740 they're now

00:53:26.180 going and

00:53:26.740 talking all

00:53:27.580 over Europe

00:53:28.060 saying, you

00:53:28.860 know, this

00:53:29.280 migration thing,

00:53:30.300 this immigrant

00:53:30.760 thing, that was

00:53:31.360 a real mistake.

00:53:32.660 And yet, they're

00:53:33.300 still standing up

00:53:34.000 for it here.

00:53:35.780 Doesn't make any

00:53:36.560 sense.

00:53:37.700 And they're

00:53:38.200 disregarding the

00:53:39.000 fact that there

00:53:40.340 are people right

00:53:41.140 here.

00:53:41.300 I lived for

00:53:42.540 two years along

00:53:43.580 the Texas-Mexico

00:53:45.260 border, and I

00:53:45.980 can tell you

00:53:46.280 there's no

00:53:46.600 group of

00:53:47.000 people more

00:53:48.120 concerned than

00:53:48.880 the poor

00:53:49.300 middle-class

00:53:49.820 Americans, many

00:53:51.920 of whom in

00:53:52.420 some neighborhoods,

00:53:53.180 most of whom

00:53:53.960 are themselves

00:53:54.820 immigrants or

00:53:55.420 the children of

00:53:56.000 immigrants.

00:53:56.780 There's nobody

00:53:57.420 more scared

00:53:58.040 than they are

00:53:58.660 about uncontrolled

00:53:59.980 waves of mass

00:54:01.120 migration.

00:54:02.480 You know, it's

00:54:02.860 easy for people

00:54:03.440 who are hundreds

00:54:04.120 or thousands

00:54:05.420 of miles north

00:54:06.580 of that border,

00:54:07.300 living in their

00:54:07.860 gated communities,

00:54:08.620 sending their kids

00:54:09.200 to elite

00:54:09.960 schools, to

00:54:11.620 say, let them

00:54:12.200 all in.

00:54:12.960 It's quite

00:54:13.400 another thing

00:54:13.900 for those who

00:54:14.440 actually live in

00:54:15.640 the areas most

00:54:16.320 affected.

00:54:17.040 We ought to be

00:54:17.460 worried about

00:54:17.840 them.

00:54:18.600 Senator Mike

00:54:19.300 Lee, thank you

00:54:19.800 so much.

00:54:25.200 The best of the

00:54:26.320 Glenn Beck

00:54:26.720 program.

00:54:27.220 We want to

00:54:40.680 welcome to the

00:54:41.140 program a

00:54:42.860 friend of the

00:54:43.720 show and

00:54:45.140 his mom,

00:54:46.260 Mike Rowe,

00:54:47.360 and his

00:54:48.300 mother, Peggy.

00:54:49.240 Hello, Peggy.

00:54:49.840 How are you?

00:54:51.340 Good morning.

00:54:51.980 I'm fine.

00:54:52.520 Thank you.

00:54:53.140 Good.

00:54:53.920 Mike, I'm

00:54:54.600 sorry that we're

00:54:55.580 going to waste

00:54:55.980 your time here.

00:54:56.560 We really wanted

00:54:57.120 to talk to your

00:54:57.740 mom, but are you

00:55:02.040 there, Mike?

00:55:03.560 I'm right here.

00:55:04.480 Is my mother

00:55:04.980 there?

00:55:05.440 I didn't hear her.

00:55:06.320 You're not wasting

00:55:07.440 his time after all.

00:55:08.500 Okay.

00:55:08.940 All right.

00:55:09.360 Good.

00:55:10.040 So, Peggy, I

00:55:11.620 wanted to start

00:55:12.500 with you and first

00:55:13.160 give you a

00:55:13.700 compliment on

00:55:14.600 raising an

00:55:15.420 amazing son.

00:55:17.620 He is, I don't

00:55:19.860 know how you did

00:55:20.620 it.

00:55:20.760 I'm raising a

00:55:21.420 son.

00:55:21.740 I don't know

00:55:22.140 what you did,

00:55:23.240 but he is kind.

00:55:24.760 He is smart.

00:55:25.620 He is one of

00:55:26.920 only two people

00:55:28.800 that have come

00:55:29.560 into our broadcast

00:55:30.540 studios in the

00:55:32.460 last, what,

00:55:33.380 almost 10 years

00:55:34.140 now.

00:55:34.780 And after he

00:55:36.200 was done, he

00:55:36.960 went into the

00:55:37.760 control room and

00:55:38.720 shook the hand of

00:55:39.700 every person that

00:55:41.320 he had no reason,

00:55:43.600 nothing to gain from

00:55:44.700 any of these people.

00:55:46.380 And he is, he's a

00:55:48.100 remarkable man.

00:55:48.960 You did a great

00:55:49.820 job.

00:55:50.220 Well, thank you.

00:55:52.380 You know, I really

00:55:53.080 can't argue with

00:55:53.940 anything you've said.

00:55:55.560 I was hoping you

00:55:56.260 would.

00:55:58.400 Well, he has his

00:55:59.440 moments, of course.

00:56:00.340 Yes.

00:56:00.580 He's not perfect.

00:56:02.320 But he is

00:56:03.280 unfailingly

00:56:03.960 gracious to

00:56:04.920 everyone.

00:56:06.240 He respects

00:56:07.220 people and the

00:56:08.680 jobs they do.

00:56:10.860 And, you know,

00:56:11.880 it's always been

00:56:12.520 like that.

00:56:13.260 And that's

00:56:13.880 sincere.

00:56:14.560 Yeah, I know it

00:56:15.240 is.

00:56:15.520 That's nothing fake.

00:56:16.580 So, Mike, can

00:56:18.260 you tell me what

00:56:19.140 it was about your

00:56:20.120 mom that helped

00:56:21.960 you turn out this

00:56:22.700 way?

00:56:24.180 Well, Glenn, I'm

00:56:25.140 at somewhat of a

00:56:25.940 disadvantage because I

00:56:27.060 can't hear my

00:56:27.820 delightful mother

00:56:28.760 talking to you.

00:56:30.300 So, God knows

00:56:31.280 what she's saying.

00:56:32.500 She just says,

00:56:34.060 yeah, go ahead.

00:56:36.220 That works to our

00:56:37.520 advantage, by the

00:56:38.460 way.

00:56:39.400 We have Mike at a

00:56:40.300 soundproof booth.

00:56:42.020 You really do.

00:56:43.700 This could be some

00:56:44.660 sort of game-changing

00:56:46.500 game show if we do

00:56:48.320 this right, or the

00:56:49.920 end of my misspent

00:56:50.900 career.

00:56:51.480 But either way,

00:56:52.100 Glenn, what was

00:56:53.440 your question

00:56:53.960 precisely?

00:56:55.740 Now, apparently,

00:56:56.820 Peggy can't hear

00:56:57.520 you either, so this

00:56:58.420 is not going to

00:56:58.900 work out well.

00:57:00.600 But I don't know

00:57:02.180 why.

00:57:02.960 We're working on

00:57:03.760 it.

00:57:04.040 There should be

00:57:05.040 some technical

00:57:05.760 issue.

00:57:06.120 This has not

00:57:06.800 happened before.

00:57:07.960 What I was

00:57:08.440 asking was, what

00:57:09.480 is it about your

00:57:10.160 mother that helped

00:57:12.360 you turn out?

00:57:13.840 Because I know a

00:57:14.760 little bit about

00:57:15.360 her.

00:57:15.640 You know, her

00:57:16.440 mom.

00:57:17.260 What is it that

00:57:18.180 your mom did that

00:57:20.400 helped you turn out

00:57:21.180 the way you are?

00:57:21.960 Mike.

00:57:22.360 Mike.

00:57:23.700 Yes.

00:57:24.840 She, well, look,

00:57:26.540 like any good mom,

00:57:27.800 she provided a great

00:57:28.840 example.

00:57:29.600 But she also had

00:57:30.860 something that a

00:57:32.320 lot of good mothers

00:57:33.100 today don't have.

00:57:34.460 And that is her

00:57:36.320 own good mother

00:57:37.840 living a hundred

00:57:39.680 yards away, who

00:57:41.360 basically had

00:57:42.260 carte blanche to

00:57:43.400 walk into our

00:57:44.640 home anytime, day

00:57:46.840 or night, and

00:57:48.680 completely upset the

00:57:49.960 apple cart in a

00:57:50.960 way that was both

00:57:51.780 fun, horrifying,

00:57:53.880 instructive,

00:57:55.180 unforgettable, and

00:57:56.780 it just, I mean,

00:57:59.100 really.

00:57:59.320 Okay, so go ahead,

00:58:01.020 Mike.

00:58:01.880 When you have a

00:58:02.980 force of nature

00:58:03.880 living in your

00:58:04.980 neighborhood who has

00:58:06.140 a key to your

00:58:07.140 home, you simply

00:58:09.800 sit back, hope for

00:58:11.360 the best, and

00:58:12.160 take good notes.

00:58:13.180 So, Peggy, that's

00:58:13.880 where I want to go.

00:58:14.580 I don't know if you

00:58:15.060 could hear him yet,

00:58:16.000 but Mike was

00:58:16.980 talking about your

00:58:17.960 mom and said one

00:58:18.960 of the things that

00:58:19.920 really affected him

00:58:21.700 was that she was a

00:58:23.020 force of nature, and

00:58:24.800 she had a key to the

00:58:25.860 house, which made

00:58:29.400 things exciting.

00:58:31.260 What little I know

00:58:32.240 about your mother,

00:58:33.560 you describe her,

00:58:34.900 and this seems like

00:58:35.900 an understatement,

00:58:36.640 as a Baltimore

00:58:38.200 Orioles fan, that

00:58:40.480 would throw her

00:58:41.320 underwear at the

00:58:42.520 TV and swear at

00:58:44.820 the umpires.

00:58:47.720 Can you?

00:58:48.620 By the way, I could

00:58:50.440 hear Mike.

00:58:51.120 Oh, you could.

00:58:51.660 Okay, good.

00:58:53.600 Hi, Mom.

00:58:54.320 How are you?

00:58:54.880 There you go.

00:58:55.820 Hey, Mike.

00:58:56.880 Long time.

00:58:57.940 Hey.

00:58:58.700 Did you miss me?

00:58:59.700 Be honest.

00:59:02.480 Okay, so.

00:59:02.940 Ten minutes ago,

00:59:03.500 we talked.

00:59:03.940 So tell me, so

00:59:05.140 Peggy, tell me about

00:59:06.580 your, tell me about

00:59:08.060 your mom and growing

00:59:10.140 up with your mom.

00:59:12.080 Yeah, you know, I

00:59:13.320 say in the book that

00:59:14.660 I actually had two

00:59:16.040 mothers, and that's

00:59:17.060 true.

00:59:18.180 Mother number one was

00:59:20.260 refined and

00:59:21.720 sophisticated.

00:59:23.360 She enjoyed the

00:59:24.820 opera, the ballet,

00:59:26.580 she played contract

00:59:27.440 bridge, she dressed

00:59:29.400 impeccably, and her

00:59:30.640 home was always ready

00:59:32.700 for guests, and

00:59:34.840 then in 1954, the

00:59:36.440 Baltimore Orioles

00:59:37.180 came to town, and

00:59:38.520 mother number one

00:59:39.360 just kind of

00:59:40.240 disappeared.

00:59:41.900 Mother number two

00:59:43.300 was a crazed

00:59:44.780 Baltimore Orioles

00:59:46.040 fan.

00:59:46.860 She did.

00:59:47.680 She jumped up and

00:59:48.500 down and hooped and

00:59:49.540 hollered, and she

00:59:52.280 would drag me out to

00:59:53.720 Memorial Stadium in

00:59:55.200 Baltimore, and she

00:59:57.340 would dance in the

00:59:58.200 aisles and shout

00:59:59.560 obscenities and

01:00:00.500 umpires.

01:00:01.180 And you had never

01:00:02.380 seen any of this

01:00:03.340 from your mother

01:00:03.900 before?

01:00:05.420 Oh, absolutely not.

01:00:06.820 This was a complete

01:00:07.840 180 from my mother.

01:00:10.680 Um, and for a young

01:00:12.780 teenage girl, it was

01:00:14.340 very embarrassing.

01:00:15.520 Horrifying.

01:00:16.000 Oh, it was terrible.

01:00:16.880 I really had to be

01:00:18.060 very careful when I

01:00:19.220 invited friends over.

01:00:20.600 I had to make sure

01:00:21.620 there was no ballgame

01:00:22.900 on that day.

01:00:23.680 Okay, so after the

01:00:25.080 ballgame, she would

01:00:26.200 go right back to mom

01:00:27.900 number one.

01:00:28.400 You know, in most

01:00:30.560 cases, she would,

01:00:31.900 unless, of course, there

01:00:32.880 was a sports program

01:00:34.100 on, uh, like baseball

01:00:35.820 talk, or, um, you

01:00:38.720 know, where they would

01:00:39.300 talk about the game,

01:00:40.240 the post game.

01:00:41.540 I mean, mother number

01:00:43.380 two would remain as

01:00:46.760 long as there was

01:00:47.620 anything baseball

01:00:48.720 happening in the area.

01:00:50.400 And then number one,

01:00:52.080 you know, mother,

01:00:52.780 number one would

01:00:53.440 return.

01:00:54.880 Now, was there, I

01:00:58.280 mean, I know it was,

01:00:59.520 is, was there

01:01:00.160 something wrong with

01:01:01.440 her or was this just

01:01:03.200 her passion?

01:01:06.560 Well, I don't think

01:01:07.620 there was anything

01:01:08.480 really wrong with her.

01:01:10.260 It was just a passion.

01:01:11.620 She just loved baseball.

01:01:13.420 And, you know, to my

01:01:14.920 knowledge, this was her

01:01:16.940 first encounter with

01:01:19.000 sports, except for high

01:01:20.920 school where she played

01:01:21.880 basketball.

01:01:22.820 And my mother was

01:01:23.720 always in charge.

01:01:24.640 So I always think that

01:01:26.060 she probably was the

01:01:27.680 captain of her team.

01:01:29.520 Um, but no, um,

01:01:31.600 previously she had not

01:01:33.120 really had anything to

01:01:34.620 do with sports.

01:01:35.340 So this was a surprise

01:01:36.720 to all of us.

01:01:37.420 Yeah.

01:01:37.600 So Mike, let me ask

01:01:39.140 you the same question.

01:01:41.040 Was there something

01:01:41.960 wrong with her or?

01:01:43.260 Oh, yeah.

01:01:47.300 Yeah.

01:01:48.540 Yeah.

01:01:49.040 I'm going to go with,

01:01:50.220 you know, a fundamental

01:01:51.420 defect in a chromosome,

01:01:55.040 probably.

01:01:56.480 Um, you know, I, I wouldn't

01:01:58.780 go so far to say, uh, it

01:02:01.320 was a deficiency, but it

01:02:02.780 was definitely an anomaly.

01:02:04.900 Um, because among her

01:02:07.260 many other traits, my, my

01:02:09.800 grandmother, she was a

01:02:11.720 corrector, you know, in

01:02:13.220 the same way, like if she

01:02:14.520 was still around today and

01:02:16.100 on, on Facebook, much like

01:02:17.740 my dad, actually, um, you

01:02:19.920 know, she couldn't bear to

01:02:21.300 hear a story being told,

01:02:23.920 uh, whose facts didn't

01:02:26.220 comport precisely with her

01:02:28.480 recollection of them.

01:02:30.420 Unless, unless she was

01:02:33.340 talking about my mom or any

01:02:36.720 of her grandkids, in which

01:02:38.320 case she lied like.

01:02:39.900 And it was, it was amazing.

01:02:45.000 Oh, mom, honestly, what

01:02:48.340 did she say?

01:02:49.440 I was an extra, basically,

01:02:51.300 in the opera.

01:02:52.160 I had one line.

01:02:53.280 I sang in the chorus, right?

01:02:54.920 I've told you this story

01:02:55.880 back in the 80s.

01:02:56.820 I got into the Baltimore

01:02:57.700 Opera.

01:02:58.420 Well, my grandmother loved

01:03:00.280 the opera.

01:03:01.180 And so when she learned that

01:03:02.860 I was singing at it, I mean,

01:03:04.340 she was literally introducing

01:03:05.700 me to her friends as a guy

01:03:08.300 who was touring with

01:03:09.400 Pavarotti and Domingo.

01:03:11.340 And, um, you know, I mean,

01:03:12.560 I was literally a star of

01:03:15.000 the opera world and I had

01:03:16.820 basically Forrest Gumped my

01:03:18.340 way into the Baltimore

01:03:19.640 Opera.

01:03:20.100 I didn't know Italian.

01:03:21.120 I didn't know anything.

01:03:21.740 But when my grandmother

01:03:23.080 talked about her

01:03:24.340 grandsons, we could do no

01:03:27.140 wrong.

01:03:27.740 And I didn't know how to

01:03:29.820 behave.

01:03:30.440 You know, when I was 18,

01:03:32.080 19, hearing this version of

01:03:34.320 me, that sounded pretty

01:03:36.120 good, but wasn't true.

01:03:37.700 But I swear there was

01:03:38.900 something in her that, that

01:03:41.280 made a kind of a self

01:03:43.300 fulfilling prophecy.

01:03:44.940 She, she made everybody

01:03:46.620 around her want to be better

01:03:48.980 than they were in whatever

01:03:50.900 way she had to do.

01:03:52.280 And in my case, it was just

01:03:54.360 wanton prevarication.

01:03:56.720 I just met a family, uh, I,

01:03:59.960 I just met a family, uh,

01:04:01.840 yesterday that live all on

01:04:04.280 25 acres in, in Houston.

01:04:06.740 Uh, and the family split it

01:04:10.460 up back in the fifties between

01:04:12.400 like five brothers.

01:04:13.980 And now those five brothers

01:04:15.920 all live in house, uh, and

01:04:18.680 and with their families and

01:04:20.160 now their kids are trying to

01:04:21.520 buy up some of the property

01:04:22.720 around and they keep

01:04:23.880 splitting it.

01:04:24.520 And they said, it's the

01:04:26.240 greatest thing ever where

01:04:27.220 it's not a compound.

01:04:28.500 We're just all living next

01:04:29.680 to each other.

01:04:30.460 And that's the way it used

01:04:31.440 to be.

01:04:32.240 And I think there is

01:04:33.140 something really, really

01:04:35.020 good to be said about

01:04:36.700 having family right there.

01:04:40.560 I agree.

01:04:42.420 Go ahead, Peggy.

01:04:43.520 Yeah.

01:04:45.480 Well, it could be like a

01:04:46.880 sitcom, but you know,

01:04:48.240 holidays would come and

01:04:50.040 there was no question as

01:04:51.160 to who would be in our

01:04:52.140 house, uh, who would help

01:04:53.860 us celebrate birthdays, the

01:04:55.440 4th of July, um, Memorial

01:04:58.640 Day, every holiday.

01:05:00.380 My parents were there.

01:05:02.700 Um, they were so

01:05:04.340 supportive of the children

01:05:05.740 and I know it must have

01:05:08.120 seemed to Mike as though

01:05:09.520 they popped in and out all

01:05:11.000 the time, but really they

01:05:12.580 respected our privacy, um,

01:05:15.000 for the most part.

01:05:15.940 And, you know, they were

01:05:17.020 active people.

01:05:18.080 They both worked.

01:05:19.060 Um, so, um, they weren't

01:05:20.960 at home all the time.

01:05:22.780 Um, but yeah, my mother

01:05:24.500 did have, I mean, she knew

01:05:26.460 how things should be.

01:05:28.320 And when she came over and

01:05:30.560 if I was playing on the

01:05:31.660 floor with the children, she

01:05:32.800 would invariably say, well,

01:05:35.920 it must be nice to have all

01:05:37.360 your housework done.

01:05:39.160 And I knew it.

01:05:40.160 Um, Peggy, the, the name of

01:05:46.380 your book is about my

01:05:47.960 mother.

01:05:48.520 Um, thank you so much for,

01:05:50.380 uh, uh, for sharing her and

01:05:52.800 thanks for coming on the

01:05:53.860 program.

01:05:54.240 And I, uh, I, I really, uh,

01:05:57.500 I'm just so impressed with

01:05:59.480 your son and I, I know that's

01:06:01.520 not coming from him.

01:06:02.660 Uh, I, I know that's coming

01:06:04.860 from, uh, an amazing family.

01:06:07.160 Uh, and I just, I just really

01:06:09.180 wanted to tell you job.

01:06:10.160 Well done job.

01:06:11.180 Well done.

01:06:11.920 I, I will accept that

01:06:13.340 compliment.

01:06:14.000 Thank you so much.

01:06:15.120 Yeah.

01:06:15.360 I, and you won't get any

01:06:16.620 disagreement from me.

01:06:18.980 Wow.

01:06:19.400 The lying continues in the

01:06:20.740 family, doesn't it?

01:06:21.660 It never stops.

01:06:23.820 You're shameless.

01:06:25.200 Mike, thank you so much.

01:06:26.380 God bless.

01:06:28.040 Len, thank you.

01:06:29.240 As always, I do owe you a

01:06:30.740 solid for that Facebook thing

01:06:32.160 once upon a time.

01:06:33.700 And, uh, and now I owe you

01:06:34.700 another one for this.

01:06:35.460 No, you don't.

01:06:36.280 I appreciate it.

01:06:36.680 Thank you so much.

01:06:37.680 80, 81 years old, New York

01:06:39.860 Times bestseller.

01:06:40.940 When has that ever happened?

01:06:42.340 Awesome.

01:06:43.160 So great.

01:06:44.000 Peggy, keep going strong.

01:06:45.760 Write another one.

01:06:46.760 God bless.

01:06:47.540 Thank you, Glenn.

01:06:48.400 This has been, this has been

01:06:49.720 fun.

01:06:50.180 Great.

01:06:50.540 Thank you.

01:06:51.140 About My Mother is the name

01:06:52.440 of the book.

01:06:52.940 You can find it now.

01:06:53.940 Peggy Rowe, Mike Rowe's, uh,

01:06:55.960 mom.

01:06:56.820 Just, they're just great

01:06:58.100 people.

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The Glenn Beck Program - November 29, 2018

Best of the Program ｜ Guests： John-Rhys-Davies & Mike Lee and Mike & Peggy Rowe ｜ 11⧸29⧸18

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