The Glenn Beck Program - Best of The Program ｜ Guests： John Ziegler & Salon Owner Lindsey Graham

00:00:00.000 Welcome to the podcast. Today, we start off with a big accusation against one of the media's

00:00:06.100 darlings, Ronan Farrow. Was he lying about some of the stuff going on in his book about the

00:00:13.820 accusations against Matt Lauer and others? The journalism does not look too promising here,

00:00:19.420 and we go into that with John Ziegler. Jason Buttrell previews tonight's TV show where we're

00:00:24.320 talking about Biden and Ukraine and the latest audio tape that you have to hear of Biden going

00:00:30.120 through a lot of the stuff that we've been talking about for a long time in Ukraine. We have an Oregon

00:00:34.760 salon owner fined $14,000 for staying open despite the stay-at-home orders. Talk to her. Stephen Moore,

00:00:42.280 the economist, worked with Trump on his economic plans. He has a new movement he's starting here

00:00:48.700 to try to get the economy going again and a new development with a parallel universe that you,

00:00:53.600 I don't know, no big deal. Just a throw-in story towards the end of the show. We'll get into that

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00:01:38.820 Well, now we have a man named John Ziegler on with us to speak to us about what's happening in the media

00:01:50.560 and Rowan Farrow. And we take you to Rowan Farrow and the media via Matt Lauer. John, welcome to the

00:02:00.060 program. Glenn, good to talk to you.

00:02:02.940 How are you?

00:02:04.140 Well, you know, you said that I have a love-hate relationship with America. I just wish I could

00:02:12.460 find out where the love was. I mean, that's the part that...

00:02:15.320 You get lots of love from us, John. You get lots of love from us. I think there's a lot of people

00:02:20.320 that look at what you write and appreciate. Unfortunately, we're not in a time that is

00:02:26.440 appreciating... that appreciates people who tell the truth as it is. Some people do it, and they're

00:02:33.140 pilloried for it, but they keep doing it. And in the end, they will be remembered as icons of this

00:02:39.280 time.

00:02:39.820 Well, I'll tell my wife that. I'm sure that'll make her feel much better.

00:02:44.180 Yeah, I know. Eat all those icons you can get. So, John, you called me... I don't even remember what

00:02:52.240 it was. Six months ago or so, and I was driving down the highway in California, and you called me,

00:02:58.460 and you said, I just had a call from Matt Lauer. And I said, shut up. And you said, yeah. And he

00:03:06.900 invited me to his house, and I went. Can you tell the story of how this happened and what it was like?

00:03:18.160 Because I read your column yesterday, and I read it again this morning. It's an amazing tale.

00:03:25.560 Yeah, there's so many different aspects of this story. I think for your listeners,

00:03:28.580 there's the backstory, which I'm definitely a huge part of, but then I'm sure we're going to get to

00:03:33.060 the biggest part of the story, which is that Ronan Farrow is a fraud, and that the media is

00:03:37.580 completely broken, especially on this issue of sex abuse allegations. But just as a little bit of

00:03:43.040 backdrop, I had appeared on the Today Show three times when Matt Lauer was the host in three very

00:03:48.860 contentious interviews. He did me no favors. We were not buddies, but he respected my work,

00:03:56.760 and he knew I was someone who would tell the truth regardless of what the ramifications were for me.

00:04:03.060 That's kind of been my reputation. I'll actually defend people I don't even like

00:04:06.980 if I think that they've been wrongly accused, and I think my track record on this is pretty

00:04:12.900 outstanding. And so I had kept in touch with one of his producers, and he had contacted that person

00:04:18.400 to get in touch with me. I went across the country, spent about five or six hours with him, and you

00:04:23.600 know me well enough to know, Glenn, that when I do this, this is not a softball situation. I'm not

00:04:29.440 actually, when I go into a situation like this, I am trying to prove that the person I'm dealing

00:04:35.820 with or interviewing is actually guilty, so that I don't have to deal with this. I don't want this,

00:04:42.020 okay? This is not something I'm seeking out. I want to make sure that the person that I'm dealing

00:04:48.500 with is telling me the truth, and anyone who knows me knows I can smoke out a fraud in about five

00:04:53.640 seconds. So when I spent five hours with somebody in their kitchen alone, I got a pretty good sense

00:04:59.580 of it. I already felt like I knew Matt pretty well, because we've been in a foxhole against each other

00:05:04.280 three times. And then after that, I wrote a column for Mediite saying, there's a completely

00:05:10.060 different story here. Ronan Farrow has, in my view, blown this, but there's no way for Matt Lauer

00:05:15.800 to tell his story in this modern media environment, especially post-MeToo, where all the rules have

00:05:22.560 completely changed. The media is completely broken. There's not enough scrutiny. There's not enough

00:05:27.700 time. Once the narrative is set, it's over with. Well, I wasn't sure what was going to happen at

00:05:34.220 that point when I spoke to you. I didn't know whether Matt would end up doing an interview with

00:05:38.700 Oprah or whatever. Anyway, Matt asked me, he said, look, you know, I have all this information that

00:05:47.920 this book Ronan Farrow wrote is completely false and provably false, and that Ronan Farrow didn't

00:05:54.740 even bother to check with people he references in the book, including two ex-boyfriends of the person

00:06:04.780 that Farrow uses to accuse me of rape. Now, think about how insane it is, Glenn, that two ex-boyfriends

00:06:12.460 are willing to speak to Matt Lauer, a person who effectively they should have romantic jealousy

00:06:19.580 towards, who can't do anything for them. They're still in the media business. And, you know, Matt

00:06:25.820 Lauer is now a pariah, and you know how the media business works. I mean, nobody wants to do anything

00:06:31.680 to threaten their gig. This is the easiest way to threaten your gig in the world, speaking out on

00:06:35.980 behalf of Matt Lauer against Ronan Farrow. And these are key people in the book. These are key people

00:06:43.560 that Farrow uses to corroborate this alleged story of what he now calls rape that he didn't even check

00:06:52.600 with who tell totally different stories, that not only don't corroborate the accuser's story,

00:06:58.060 but say, no, that didn't happen. Let me tell you what really happened. And so Lauer says to me,

00:07:02.860 after, I mean, hours and hours and hours of conversation, what do I do? Is there a mainstream

00:07:08.060 reporter that I can provide this to that will be fair about this? And I did some research. I talked

00:07:16.040 to some people I thought were possible. I've been through these wars before. And I came back to them.

00:07:21.480 I said, Matt, there's no way. You can't do it. The media is so broken that what will happen is if you

00:07:27.580 give the information that you have accumulated via your own investigation of this, there's not one

00:07:34.700 mainstream reporter at a major outlet that will have the ability and the guts to actually see this

00:07:41.220 through. They will absolutely turn it against you. They will diminish everything you have found

00:07:47.500 because it doesn't do them any good because the truth doesn't matter. It's not about the truth.

00:07:53.360 It's about the narrative. It's about making sure you protect your own gig. You protect your position

00:07:58.380 in the media club. That's what this is. It's a club. And no one wants to go outside the herd because

00:08:03.560 they'll get run over. And the easiest way to get run over is going up against Ronan Farrow.

00:08:07.880 And so I said, Matt, the only way you can do this is if you write this yourself and use your own

00:08:14.260 celebrity, your own journalistic abilities, your own connections to the story to personalize it.

00:08:21.120 And so this was an incredibly long process. I mean, just insane. I mean, I can't even,

00:08:28.140 maybe at some other point, I'll tell you the full story about all this when we have more time.

00:08:31.820 But, but the, the reality is it was, it was months and months and it was intended to come out

00:08:37.760 way before this, but obviously the Corona virus situation hit and there was no way you're going

00:08:42.820 to do that in the middle of the middle of the pandemic. But then the New York times came out

00:08:47.680 earlier this week via Ben Smith with this. I think you are accurately described. It was a soft

00:08:53.980 push against Ronan Farrow saying, Hey, look, is Ronan Farrow really as good as he appears to be?

00:09:00.700 Is he, is he too good to be true? And let's, let's just say Glenn, that wasn't a coincidence

00:09:05.480 that that came out when it did and how it did. And, and this was, there was a plan involved in

00:09:11.740 all this. And so that's actually good news though, John, that shows that they are softening

00:09:17.780 the landscape to be able to possibly flip on Ronan Farrow. I mean, it was an amazing story

00:09:25.700 from the New York times where they were saying, you know, I mean, he's a golden boy. He's great,

00:09:29.680 but maybe he was thrown into the deep end, you know, before he was ready to do journalism. And

00:09:34.100 so he didn't know all of the rules. Oh my gosh, that's your criticism. He's destroying lives

00:09:40.980 and that's the way you handle it. Oh, wow. And to me, the headline of other, so many interesting

00:09:47.860 aspects of this, but the headline of this entire affair is Ronan Farrow is a fraud. He's not just

00:09:56.700 bad journalism. He's a fraud. He is a concoction of the news media. They fell in love with him because

00:10:04.600 of me too. He got, he got, uh, you could argue he got lucky. They fell in love with him before they,

00:10:10.200 they fell in love with him before. I don't know why the guy won all kinds of journalistic, uh, awards

00:10:17.580 before, uh, the me too movement. He was the darling of the media. Nobody knew who he was.

00:10:25.380 I don't know what happened, but there he was.

00:10:28.820 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:10:46.460 Let me, uh, let me switch gears. What they just did with Craig T. Nelson was exactly what Stu said.

00:10:53.720 Scare people into silence. They want to make examples of people. This is,

00:10:58.400 this is Saul Alinsky 101. Make examples of people. Well, the States are doing this all over the

00:11:05.440 country right now. And I want to talk to Lindsey Graham. She is another salon owner, uh, who is now

00:11:13.960 being fined $14,000 for reopening. Despite her stay at home orders, she has opened her, uh, her salon.

00:11:23.480 Welcome to the, welcome to the program. Lindsey Graham. How are you?

00:11:27.840 I'm great. Thank you for having me this morning.

00:11:30.800 All right. So you're in Salem, Oregon, and the question has got to be asked.

00:11:36.880 Why Lindsey, why are you in Oregon? Why are you in Oregon?

00:11:40.980 I'm starting to question that myself.

00:11:43.000 It's such a beautiful state and it's just gone crazy. Um, all right. So they issued you a citation

00:11:51.060 from OSHA because they illegally deemed your independent contractors, the stylist in the salon

00:11:59.860 as your employees. Tell me what happened. Tell me what happened.

00:12:05.200 Well, the day before I even opened my salon, which was May 4th, I was in there cleaning and I received

00:12:12.300 a visit from OSHA and he said it was a friendly visit to let me know what would happen if I choose

00:12:18.000 to move forward, opening my doors the next day. What he told me was that he would get a warrant to

00:12:22.960 come in and conduct an investigation and he would cite me a thousand dollars for violating the mandate.

00:12:28.240 Um, so basically operating a hazardous work workplace. And if I didn't comply and shut my doors,

00:12:34.880 he would issue me a $70,000 citation. So I, I opened my doors regardless and OSHA did indeed get a warrant

00:12:44.280 and they conducted an investigation, which I cooperated with. Um, I interviewed with them, I provided documents.

00:12:50.180 And in the end, despite all of my truthful answers about my independent contractors,

00:12:54.980 he decided at the end of the week that those independent contractors were employees. And

00:13:00.720 therefore I was operating hazardous workplace for my employees. And he cited me $14,000 and, uh,

00:13:07.860 gave me three days to close my doors. But it's pretty easy to, it's, it's pretty easy to know if

00:13:15.040 these are contractors or employees. I mean, they, they, your records would show that.

00:13:20.680 Yes. There's, there's a very, very definite and clear difference. And like I said, I was very

00:13:27.520 truthful because I knew that they were independent contractors and there was no way they could be

00:13:31.860 deemed employees. So it'll be interesting in court to see how they decided they were employees.

00:13:36.480 They're, they're citing examples. Like if I have a dress code or if I allow them to use the same

00:13:43.120 scheduling system, then they become employees, which is, which is ridiculous.

00:13:47.560 Yeah. I can't, I can't have rules in my salon for my independent contractors. And if I do,

00:13:54.720 that the state can decide that they're employees, which changes my entire business structure. So

00:13:58.880 this is alarming for salons around the, around the United States, um, that they're, that they're

00:14:04.400 going to try to do this.

00:14:06.560 So Lindsay, why are they doing this to you? Do you think what's happening?

00:14:10.600 I'm, I'm positive that they're, they're using every possible government organization to try

00:14:18.140 to bully and intimidate me into shutting my doors. They have used, um, OSHA health licensing

00:14:24.360 office, CPS child protective services, if you can believe it, they've used the city of Salem to

00:14:30.160 how, how, how, how, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, how were they using CPS?

00:14:36.640 Uh, so I opened my doors to my salon on May 5th and on May 8th, child protective services showed up

00:14:43.720 at my home when I was at work to question my home about a quote claim that my household was, uh,

00:14:51.620 endangering my children.

00:14:52.600 Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. Lindsay, how are you so calm about this?

00:14:57.860 I'm not, I'm, I'm livid and I've already cried and bawled and screamed. And I, I have, I have no

00:15:05.460 words for, for the tactics that the government's using against me, but I've had time to kind of

00:15:09.960 to adjust my thinking and, and come up with a plan of attack, um, or defense even if you will.

00:15:17.680 Um, I'm not calm, but I have a really great team of attorneys and we are going to tackle this

00:15:22.160 head on because it's very, very clear that there is bullying and intimidation by the government

00:15:27.040 directed at me and my family and my business. I, when, I mean, you come after my business.

00:15:33.720 That's one thing you come after my family. Oh my gosh, I would lose my mind. I'd lose my mind.

00:15:40.860 Um, so this is, you think this is being coordinated from the governor's office?

00:15:46.180 Uh, I do. Yes, I really do. Um, and there's been some things that have come to light that can

00:15:51.480 back that theory up, uh, very prominently. And so we are confident that there is, there

00:15:58.140 are higher ups that are conducting these, pulling these strings directed at me.

00:16:02.880 Can you, can you tell us any of those things that have come up?

00:16:07.660 I don't believe I can. They just, they, my attorney found them yesterday. And, um, but I think

00:16:13.620 eventually they will come to light and they'll come to light in court. Um, but we are,

00:16:17.320 we are shocked at some of the things that we're finding out that have been done. So, uh, I,

00:16:25.600 I would encourage the verification and it's going to be interesting.

00:16:29.020 Why did you open up in the first place? Why don't you just go along to get along? Why don't you just

00:16:34.900 do that? I would have loved to have done that, but I also would have loved to have kept my home and

00:16:40.220 kept my businesses and kept, you know, the, the life that I've worked 15 years for. Um, my husband and I

00:16:46.480 own six businesses and we actually, I actually took four weeks off for maternity leave before the

00:16:51.800 quarantine. And so we had not budgeted for a government shutdown. No one would, no one has

00:16:57.860 budgeted for a government shutdown. And at the four week mark, I said, listen, we're going to lose

00:17:05.000 these businesses. We're going to, we're choosing to pay our mortgage instead of the leases on these.

00:17:09.700 The, the government hasn't come through with their loans and their grants and their unemployment money

00:17:14.720 that we don't want anyway. We want to, we want to work and we want to run our businesses the good

00:17:18.260 old fashioned American way. We're hard workers. And at four weeks I said, we can't survive this.

00:17:23.160 If I don't go back to work and we make most of our income for me being a hairstylist and taking

00:17:30.740 clients and having my salon open. And honestly, I wanted my, my stylists that, that work there to

00:17:36.880 be able to come in and run their business and do their clients. So I said, ladies, I'm doing this.

00:17:43.200 And if you want to join me, let's, let's make a living because you know, we're all going to lose

00:17:47.980 everything we've worked for if we don't. And so that was the decision I made. And, um, I actually

00:17:53.420 didn't mean for it to go public. I shared a story about it in a Facebook group and, um, I didn't

00:17:59.140 realize it was a public group and it started getting shared. So I went, Oh, well, this is making the news

00:18:03.860 news now. So I guess I have to do it. Um, right. And is that, do you think is that, is the town

00:18:11.040 supportive of you at all? Um, I'm, I'm really disappointed in Oregonians. They are, they are

00:18:16.880 less supportive of me than the entire nation is. When this went local, um, I had to endure quite a

00:18:23.420 bit of verbal and, and, uh, keyboard abuse. You got to get out of there. Um, you got to get out of

00:18:28.400 there. Sincerely, you got to come to Texas, our governor, they put a, so they put a in Texas, in

00:18:34.840 Dallas, they put a salon, uh, owner in jail and our governor and our governor went nuts and she's

00:18:41.400 out of jail and we're not arresting anybody anymore. Uh, I mean, that's, that's what you need. This,

00:18:46.980 this governor is, I mean, your whole state's out of control. Right. All we're asking for is a little

00:18:53.000 support. We're, I don't understand how that's a controversial or political issue to be able to

00:18:58.960 earn your living. So I'm, I'm very confused why this is such an uproar that I needed to work and

00:19:04.260 provide for my family. It's very interesting to watch, but it's, it's, I'm very thankful the

00:19:09.980 nation has rallied behind me. I'm getting positive, encouraging messages and prayers from all over

00:19:14.960 America. And I am brought to tears most days from the support. So very thankful for that.

00:19:20.940 That's great. Lindsay, thank you so much for talking to us. We're going to follow your story

00:19:25.340 when, when you please stay in touch with us. Our producers will stay in touch with you,

00:19:29.880 but we want to know what's going on. And if there's any way we can help you, um, we will

00:19:34.280 absolutely stand with you. So thank you so much, Lindsay. Thank you so much. God bless. You bet.

00:19:40.640 Um, tonight, this, this is another Rosa Parks and there's going to be a lot of people on left.

00:19:47.720 How dare you? What, what was, what was Rosa Parks? What was she doing? She just wanted to

00:19:53.160 ride a bus. No big deal. Just ride a bus. I just, I just look, the seats are, the seats are empty

00:19:58.580 here. Uh, if somebody, if somebody who's white comes in and they want to sit down, I'll, I'll even

00:20:05.840 get up, but there's nobody on the bus. I'll sit here. That wasn't good enough. That's so simple.

00:20:12.540 This, it's the same thing here. This is somebody saying, look, I, I, I've got to put food on my

00:20:16.860 table. I have a food on my table and I'll do all of your little, you know, masks, things and

00:20:23.180 everything else. I'll do all that, but I'm going to go back to work because I'm going to lose

00:20:28.420 everything I have. And so are all the people that work around me and worth with me. So I want to do

00:20:33.220 that. That's a right. That is a right. You have a right to feed yourself. You have a right

00:20:39.800 to be able to pursue your happiness. Yeah. I mean, obviously the intent of the underlying

00:20:46.400 policy is, is a lot different, but when you talk about the base need here, this is the need to,

00:20:51.940 the most basic need you can have. I need to be able to feed my family. I need to have shelter.

00:20:57.340 People came here because they could be free to chart their own course. Anything that, that stands

00:21:04.760 in the way of doing that, uh, is absolutely beyond reason. When you're talking about something like

00:21:12.640 the Corona virus, flatten the curve, we flatten the curve, open the country back up. And you know,

00:21:18.700 it's amazing. If this was Donald Trump doing this, the woman, if they were, she, if she was, uh,

00:21:24.360 being, being, having feds come in and sicked on her because of Donald Trump, the press would be all

00:21:30.740 over it. But because it's an Oregon governor and because it's a Democrat, oh no, no, everything is

00:21:36.880 fine. This is obscene. It's a new civil rights movement. And I want you to watch tonight. We're

00:21:43.040 going to have, we have a whole, a whole hour of these kinds of people who are standing up because

00:21:47.880 something's happening in America. It's a new civil rights movement. And we'll show it to you tonight

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00:22:01.780 Glenn Beck program. Hello America. And welcome to the program. Let me give you a story on Ukraine.

00:22:10.540 That's just breaking. Now the infamous story of Joe Biden's effort to force the firing of Ukraine's

00:22:16.560 chief prosecutor in 2016 has taken a new legal twist in Kiev or Kiev, just as the former vice

00:22:24.000 president is sewing up his presidential nomination in America. In Kiev last month, district court judge

00:22:31.840 S.J. Volk ordered the country's law enforcement services to formally list the fire prosecutor,

00:22:40.020 Victor Shokin, as a victim of an alleged crime by the former U.S. vice president, Joe Biden.

00:22:46.560 According to an official English translation of the ruling obtained by just the news, the court has

00:22:54.240 previously ordered the prosecutor general's office and the state bureau of investigation in February to

00:22:59.160 investigate Shokin's claims that he was fired in spring 2016 under pressure from Biden because he was

00:23:06.520 investigating Burisma holdings. The court ruled that there is now adequate evidence to investigate his

00:23:13.020 claims that Biden pressured the then president, Petro Poroshenko, including a threat to withhold a

00:23:21.100 billion dollars in loan guarantees. But when the law enforcement agencies opened the probe, they refused

00:23:26.660 to name Biden as the alleged perpetrator of the crime, instead listing the potential defendant as an

00:23:33.500 unnamed American. Volk ruled that anonymous listing was improper and ordered the law enforcement agencies to

00:23:42.940 formally name Joe Biden as the excuse as the accused perpetrator. This is stunning. Now, there is there is

00:23:53.260 audio of this and we bring Jason Batril back in. He is our chief researcher. He has been on this Ukraine

00:24:01.500 story now with me for what, almost a year and a half. And we have the audio. Do you want to set this up, Jason?

00:24:09.180 Yeah, so I'm not sure which because there's multiple clips, but I think that this clip that we're about to play here is

00:24:16.060 Joe Biden and Poroshenko right as they were discussing right after Joe Biden said, hey, can you get this

00:24:23.420 prosecutor Shokin fired for me? And Poroshenko calls Joe Biden back up and he says this.

00:24:29.900 But before Vice President Biden comes, I just wanted to try to urge you to see if there's a way to get

00:24:38.620 by this problem of replacing the prosecutor general. This is John Kerry.

00:24:44.740 Because, from my perception, he's blocked the clean-up of the prosecutor general's office and I know the Vice President is very concerned about it and I think it'd be good to try to have some resolution of that before the Vice President comes.

00:25:00.900 Yesterday, I met me with the general prosecutor Shokin.

00:25:06.100 Yes.

00:25:08.100 And despite of the fact that we don't have any corruption charges, we don't have any information about he's doing something wrong,

00:25:17.700 I especially asked him. No, it was the day before yesterday. I especially asked him to resign

00:25:28.420 in his position as a state person.

00:25:36.580 And despite of the fact that he has the support in the power.

00:25:44.180 And as I finished of my meeting with him, he promised me to give me the statement on resignation.

00:25:57.140 And one hour ago, he brought me the written statement of his resignation.

00:26:07.860 Great.

00:26:09.860 And this is my second step for keeping my promises.

00:26:14.580 Very well indeed, as usual, when I hear your voice. Thank you very much.

00:26:25.300 Well, you are doing very well. Congratulations on getting the new prosecutor general.

00:26:30.820 I know there's a lot more that has to be done, but I really, I really think that's good.

00:26:36.580 Uh, and I understand you're working with the rod in the coming days on a number of additional laws to secure the IMF.

00:26:44.980 So, but congratulations on installing the new prosecutor general.

00:26:48.260 It's going to be critical, uh, for him to work quickly to repair the damage that Shokin did.

00:26:53.620 And I'm a man of my word. I, uh, and that now that the new prosecutor general's in place,

00:26:58.660 we're ready to move forward in signing that new $1 billion loan guarantee.

00:27:03.220 Jeez. Holy cow. That's definitely, definitely both of them. There's no question. That's the,

00:27:09.940 both of their voices. No. Oh yeah. And, and, and the, there is Shokin saying,

00:27:15.860 we have no evidence of any wrongdoing. There are no charges against him. So when Biden said,

00:27:24.740 everybody knew, everybody knew, well, the president of the country that was friendly to you guys,

00:27:30.740 this is not the current guy. This is the old guy that was friendly to Hillary and, and Obama and

00:27:35.860 totally corrupt. He even said, there is no evidence on that, but I'm going to do it as a favor to you.

00:27:44.740 So I can keep my promises. Holy cow. Is that kind of important?

00:27:49.460 A little bit, a little bit. Yeah. And you, and to go off of what Stu was just saying, I,

00:27:55.780 I, the Washington post is reporting on this as if it's verified. I've reached out to them to say,

00:28:00.820 if anyone off the record has verified the legitimacy, it seems very authentic. We just

00:28:04.660 haven't verified it yet. I actually, right now, I just missed a call from one of my sources in Ukraine,

00:28:09.380 who I'm going to call back as soon as I get off with you. We're still trying to figure this out,

00:28:12.740 but this sounds like to me, it sounds like an intercept. Now, if you listen to the entire audio,

00:28:18.740 it's frightening because they say you, you hear the white house, uh, operator, you hear there's

00:28:25.140 many times are saying, I'm calling from air force two at the moment. I hope the call doesn't get

00:28:29.380 dropped. It's insane. This appears like a Russian intercept. I don't think it is. I really don't.

00:28:34.980 I think this is, uh, Ukrainian. I mean, it is not, he's clear that that that's being recorded on his

00:28:43.540 end on the, on the, um, president power Shanko's end. That sounds like a recording. Yeah. From his

00:28:50.900 room. Yeah. He's got it on speaker. This, yeah, this is them. This is, this is from Ukraine.

00:28:57.940 The thing where you don't think so. Well, I it's, it's very suspect because of the people that released

00:29:02.980 this, the, his name is Andre Durkacz and he's a, uh, Ukrainian member of parliament. He's very,

00:29:08.820 very pro Russia. Very, very pro Russia. Um, he's, his dad was in the KGB. He actually learned

00:29:15.940 at a KGB university himself, uh, when he was younger and now he represents a block within

00:29:21.140 Ukraine. That's very, very pro Russian. Now, many people will say this is important to know

00:29:25.060 because many people will say, Oh, it's just Putin trying to give Trump another leg up. That's total

00:29:29.300 bull. This has nothing to do with us politics. The only thing this has to do,

00:29:32.900 is Ukrainian politics and the Western media. So listen, when we talk to who is that guy that was,

00:29:39.860 uh, part of the, the, uh, the AG up, uh, over there. And then he went to work for the embassy.

00:29:48.500 Remember the, the Ukrainian guy? What was his name? Yes. Andre Teloshenko. Okay. So Teloshenko said to me,

00:29:54.580 and I thought this was interesting. He said, you know, we thought we had, uh, we, we were going to

00:30:00.500 have freedom. We, and you guys are just doing the same thing to us that Russia was doing.

00:30:06.500 And I think this is a Russian, uh, leak, but not meant for the United States instead meant for the

00:30:13.380 Ukrainians because the Ukrainians will see how corrupt we were and what we were doing. And if we

00:30:20.340 don't clean it up here, any hope that we have, that the Ukrainian people would be pro American and,

00:30:27.460 and, and ally with us, which we need, otherwise they go to the Russians.

00:30:32.580 The, if the Ukrainians say there's no difference between Vladimir Putin and the United States of

00:30:40.100 America, we're toast, we're toast. And that's the message that the Ukrainians are getting.

00:30:45.860 Look, look at this other, look at this other story. This one comes from, uh, the, uh, let me see if I can

00:30:52.500 get it. Uh, the Kyiv post. Okay. Ukraine's global voice. What do you know about the Kyiv post?

00:30:59.540 Do you know anything of balanced one way or another? I've seen them, uh, very, very kind of

00:31:08.740 ostrich head in the sand on a lot of this stuff in the past. Okay. So here's what they just, they

00:31:15.460 just released more of this audio. And the headline is Ukrainian MP releases Biden Poroshenko call

00:31:25.380 recordings and spouts absurd conspiracy theory. Now the recordings that they have, that they are

00:31:33.380 releasing that we haven't played for you yet, but we will tomorrow, uh, are the, uh, conversations

00:31:41.060 that they allege between Biden and George Soros and Poroshenko and how Soros and Biden were working

00:31:52.980 together with the United States to exert and listen to this exerted undue influence over the Ukrainian

00:32:00.180 government under Poroshenko. So what's happening is this is local politics. This is Ukrainian politics,

00:32:07.860 but they are using our bad things to turn people against us.

00:32:14.100 Amazing. And this is something chance. You think there's a chance?

00:32:19.700 Absolutely. I mean, we, we've already exposed a lot of this on, uh, when, when you did Democrats

00:32:24.340 Hydra, I mean, this is just further, you know, uh, this is further evidence verification,

00:32:30.100 verification when we've shown you the doc. So they're, they're out there.

00:32:34.180 There is one other story that you need to know. This is coming from the Washington Examiner.

00:32:40.580 Democrats on the Homeland Security Committee are urging their Republican counterparts to please

00:32:46.100 prioritize the Corona virus pandemic over their investigation related to Hunter and, and Joe Biden

00:32:54.340 and Burisma holdings in Ukraine. Oh my gosh. Tuesday in a letter to Senator Ron Johnson, the Wisconsin

00:33:00.740 Republican who heads the committee Democrats requested an immediate hearing to examine the

00:33:05.460 federal government's response to the pandemic, which has now killed over 90,000 people and affected

00:33:10.660 blah, blah, blah. This pandemic presents an ongoing threat to our national and economic security.

00:33:15.860 And we're continuing to face dire warnings from public health officials. Please. Our committee has a

00:33:22.420 responsibility to ask tough questions on the pandemic pandemic response and to get answers for the American

00:33:27.860 people. Unbelievable. The goal of these people to now use the pandemic to say, Hey, Hey, Hey, what are you doing?

00:33:39.700 Wasn't that what we were saying the whole time about Trump? Uh, what are you doing? Why are you spending all this money?

00:33:44.980 What, you know, get back to work with the American people now that they're being exposed and all of this is being verified.

00:33:51.460 Now they're all of a sudden, Hey, let's not have hearings. Let's not. Mm hmm. That's

00:33:58.500 bipartisan. Why aren't we just being so bipartisan, Jason? Thank you so much. Uh, and we'll have a report

00:34:05.300 hopefully from you tomorrow, uh, with a little bit more on these, uh, recordings and, uh, and show you

00:34:11.620 the latest on, on Barack Obama, uh, George Soros and Joe Biden. It's not going to end well. It's just not

00:34:21.300 going to end well.

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