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Ken Paxson, the AG of the state of Texas talks about voter fraud and how they seem to have caught some here in Texas, Thankfully before the presidential election, we ll get into the details on that and what is being planned by the left. Also, we have Jonathan Kahn who is on with us to talk about singing hymns outdoors in a social distance manner. Gabe Wrench is on as well.
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Welcome to the podcast. So today Glenn starts the show with a little information about the FBI,
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the texts that were released. The deep state stuff is really kicking into gear and it seems
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like there's new stuff coming out almost every day. These are text messages between agents that
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are going to blow your mind. We start the show right there. Ken Paxson, he is the attorney general
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of the state of Texas, talks to us about voter fraud and how they seem to have caught some here
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in Texas. Thankfully before presidential election, we'll get into the details on that and what is
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being planned by the left. Also, we have Jonathan Kahn who is on with us. Gabe Wrench is on as well.
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He's a guy who was making, he's doing this terrible, horrible thing that spreads COVID all over the
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place called singing hymns outdoors in a social distance manner. Bastard. Yeah. Oh yeah. Bad guy.
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Bad guy. Wow. Bad person. At least, uh, maybe he wound up getting like arrested for this. I mean,
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again, this is what a freaking world we live in right now. And Pat Gray, as you just heard, uh,
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Ken Paxton is our attorney general here in Texas, Texas. And, uh, yesterday, uh, looks like
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he found a scheme and, uh, is putting the cuffs on a few people that, uh, had a mail-in ballot
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scheme. What a surprise in the democratic party here in the great state of Texas.
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Welcome to our attorney general, Ken Paxton. How are you, sir?
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I'm doing well. And I guess you have not heard the narrative. We don't have mail-in ballot fraud.
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Yeah. Well, I, well, I was going to ask you beside the 134 felony charges, what else do you have?
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Well, I mean, you know, it's interesting, this, this narrative that there's no
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voter fraud, there's no mail-in ballot fraud is largely, I think, pushed because there hasn't
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been a lot of focus on it. There hasn't, most states don't have a lot of resources or
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any resources behind it. Some of them don't have any. We only have, when I started, we had one
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prosecutor and a few investigators. I asked the legislature to triple that. We have three
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and we, uh, we're, those, those people are busy all the time. And 66% of the cases that we've done,
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I think in the last 10 years have been mail-in ballot fraud.
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Okay. Well, that's something, you know, like the violence at these, um, at these beautiful,
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peaceful rallies. That's just not happening. Uh, Ken. So tell me about, tell me about this
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ring. Who was involved and what were they doing?
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Well, it was, it was definitely to, it appeared to benefit the county commissioner, uh, a guy
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named Shannon Brown. He ended up winning by five votes. The precinct that he is in, I think
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covered about 20% of the population, but it had 50% of the mail-in ballot votes. And if you look
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across the county, there were only 12 disability checked boxes for, um, people who were voting
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with mail-in ballots. Whereas in his precinct, there were 376, I think. So the numbers were
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definitely not proportional. Uh, they were way outsized for his, his, his precinct. And he ended
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So what happens? First of all, how did you find out about it? How did you nail them and who was
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So we had a lot of help from, uh, the Greg County Sheriff, Sheriff Tubbs. And, uh, we also, you know,
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my office investigated, but we also, I think, get that information from the, the election people
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that I think they, they, they discovered the inequities, which in some counties, you know,
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it's difficult for us to get that because the elections people are not going to take note of
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things like that because they may or may not like the result.
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So Ken, you are as concerned as I am about this, these felony charges, um, you can face six months
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in jail to 99 years in prison. That's kind of a big spread. What do you have to do to get 99 years
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You know, it's, it's, it's always up to, uh, it's always up to the, the, the, the court system to
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determine that was jury trial by jury. And so they ended up making these decisions based on how,
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how bad they think that the crime was. So I've had cases where we've tried to negotiate. We had a
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woman who had voted in like five counties, uh, a non-citizen. We asked, we actually tried to
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negotiate a two year sentence for her. Um, and she refused it and the jury ended up giving her eight
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Well, it's Texas. I don't know if that's going to happen, uh, elsewhere. So what do people do
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this election? I mean, I am, I have to tell you, Ken, I have no problem. I mean, I do, but I will
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accept a, a fair and honest vote. If it goes the other way, I won't like it. I don't know how we
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survive, but I will accept it. And I think most people on both sides of the aisle will do the same,
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but there, I mean, how does the post office in Pennsylvania just lose Trump votes in a ditch
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That's a really good question. I was actually with the president yesterday and he was asking
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the very same question. He said, how do they lose? How do my, how do my votes end up, you know,
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in the trash on the side of the road? And he's, I know he is extremely concerned about the mail-in
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ballots. I think he said he's anticipating 80 million mail-in ballots. That's,
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that's a lot of openness for fraud. I can tell you that scary.
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So what does the average person do? How can we volunteer? How can we over, what do we do?
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I think one of the things, I mean, the mail-in ballot thing is really a challenge because
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it's impossible to watch. At least when people are voting in person, you can have people at the
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poll site, watching people vote, just sort of watching the process happen and ensuring that
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people are doing what they're supposed to do. And it's pretty simple, right? You show up with a
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photo ID and if that's you, you get to vote. And if you're on the, if you register to vote,
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you get to vote. So, but with mail-in ballot, we don't know who those are coming from and the
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people counting them don't know it either. And so it's very difficult with that kind of process.
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And with, with our state, at least it's limited. You know, there's only certain categories of people
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that can do it. People over 65, people that are, you know, disabled, but even there, there's room
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for fraud. Imagine states that have universal mail-in ballots. I do not think you can protect
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against significant voter fraud if you have universal mail-in ballots.
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Did the guy, what is his name, that won this commissioner seat?
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Is he, he's, he's, he's not serving, right? I mean, he's going to serve in a different way?
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Well, he's, you have, we have to prove, you have to prove this. You're, he's still presumed
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innocent until, until a jury convicts him of a crime. So at this point, he continues
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to serve, uh, and we'll continue to serve until we prove the case and a jury says, yeah,
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you, you, you, you've proved your case that this guy committed fraud. So yeah, he's presumed
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innocent, just like anybody else that gets indicted.
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How big, how, how was the, how did the scheme work? How did they do it? Where'd they get
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the ballots? How'd they do it? Um, I, I think that these things just get mailed out and sometimes
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they just go around and grab them out of mailboxes and fill them out. And that's usually
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the way it's done. And there's sometimes we were pretty certain that the, the elections people let
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their operatives know that they're going out and they just, they know the dates, they know the
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locations and they grab them and fill them out. And no one ever knows.
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Wow. Uh, Ken, thank you so much. By the way, let me ask you, I don't know if you have the answer.
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Why did the governor increase the time of voting before the election? We went from like 12 days to
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17 or something like that. Why did we do that? I actually do know the answer. So one of the
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arguments that we've been making, we've been sued so many times over election issues. We've been sued,
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I think 12 to 15 times. I have more election cases than I've ever had in my life and probably ever
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happened in the state's history. They're trying to affect our election. So we had three different
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mail-in ballot cases. One was in Travis County. We already won that at the tech Supreme Court.
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We have one at the fifth circuit. So, and by the way, just know they have to win one time and they,
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they're able to, then it opens it up for cheating. We have to win every case or we lose. So we have
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another one in the fifth circuit. It's a constitutional challenge saying that it's unconstitutional to only let
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people over 65 vote. Well, then we have another one in Harris County where the county clerk or
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district clerk is trying to mail out over like 2.7 mail-in ballots to everybody, not, not upon
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request, just mail them out. So one of the arguments that we have made is, Hey, the governor has, has
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already accommodated these people and accommodated the whole COVID issue by allowing for more hours
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and longer early voting. And I think that's a much safer way to handle it. It's much safer because
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we don't have any proof that really that, that early voting hurts us. Actually, I think it actually
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helps us, uh, get more people out and it tends to be good for Republicans. So I don't think that's
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really the problem. The real problem is mail-in ballots. And I, and I find it frustrating that we have
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lawsuits, some by even the state party going after something that really doesn't change the game
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and really undermining our case that, Hey, we've already accommodated. Don't do mail-in ballots.
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Who's funding all these lawsuits? Cause it's not just Texas, this happening all over the country.
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I mean, my speculation is George Soros. There's a law firm, one of, there's a law firm that's involved
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in many of these cases, not just mail-in ballots. They see this over all kinds of issues, how many poll
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workers we have, uh, how, how many ballot order, um, putting, you know, the Republicans ahead of
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the Democrats, which we've, we've done since the beginning of time, whoever's in power gets to go
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first. I mean, just name it where we're defending it. Um, Ken, there was, it was said you brought up
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George Soros and, um, uh, Fox news just about wet their pants when the, when the name George Soros
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went on the air. I know this to be true. You and I have talked about it, that George Soros has pumped
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all kinds of money into district attorneys and even into some offices of attorney generals
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try in, in different ways, trying to affect even the attorney general's office. They say that there's
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Proof. Look, I, I, I, this guy is so, he's so good at like hiding how he does it, but like,
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for instance, and here's, here's, here's the focus. He wants to put in DAs that won't prosecute
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crime, but they will go after Republicans. That's the idea. Get it, get people in there. And so I'll
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give you two, two examples. Bexar County had a, had a really good democratic DA, a guy named
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Nicola Hood, who I worked with very well on human traffic and all kinds of issues. Well, Soros didn't
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like him because he was prosecuting people. He was doing his job. Same thing just happened in
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Travis County. Margaret Moore, excellent DA, doing her job, not partisan, just doing her job. And,
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but she was prosecuting people. So that was a problem. So they sent in another DA who supposedly
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is going to not prosecute people, but you know, we'll go after Republican leaders as drop of a hat.
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So that's the strategy. Make, criminalize politics and, and weaponize the DAs to destroy
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anybody that, that they don't like and not prosecute real crime.
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It's an incredible time to live. And I'm glad you're our attorney general. Thank you very much,
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You bet. Ken Paxton, our attorney general in the state of Texas. And if you have a good attorney general,
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I'm telling you the things you must vote for, you must know who your attorney general is.
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You got to make sure they are strict constitutionalists and sheriffs. You got to do
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everything you can. If you have a good sheriff, support them. If they're up for reelection,
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support them. Do all you can. Sheriffs are going to be the last line of defense,
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as we have already seen in just some of this COVID nightmare stuff.
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This is the best of the Glenn Beck program. And don't forget, rate us on iTunes.
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We had the SWAT team swing into action, arresting three Christians singing hymns. They were all
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social distanced, but they didn't wear masks. Now, I should give you the fact that this county is
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overwhelmed with COVID. The hospital is teeming with people with COVID.
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Or I think no one has had COVID and the hospital is fine. I'm not sure which one it is.
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But one of the guys who was arrested is Gabriel Wrench. Hello, Gabriel.
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Can you tell me what the hell is happening to Idaho?
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Oh, man, I'm just as blown away as you are. You know, this whole, our mayor signed into a
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resolution, you know, social distancing mask resolution on July 2nd. And then they keep
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extending it. Our city council keeps extending it. And then, and throughout all this, my church
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occasionally would, you know, we'd go to like the middle of downtown and sing psalms, you know,
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sing three or four psalms as kind of a protest. It's kind of a worship protest to all this.
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And then our mayor on this past Monday extended the resolution through January 5th. And so my
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pastors on Tuesday decided, hey, let's go sing the psalms again, and let's do it at city hall's
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parking lot. And so we went to city hall's parking lot and started, I mean, we didn't
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get halfway through a song. And the police officers walked up to me and proceeded to talk to me and
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say, hey, you know, they, my mom was standing right next to me. And they asked her, are you
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with him? And she said, he's my son. And then so I put my arm around my buddy next to me. I said,
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but this is my friend. And the officer said, okay, well, let me give me your ID. And I said,
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officer, you don't have to do this. And he said, give me your ID. And I said, officer,
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you know better than this. And he said, give me your ID. And I said, officer,
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I have first amendment rights and your duty is to the citizens, not to the mayor. Your
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duty is to protect the citizens' freedoms and rights and not to the mayor. You need to,
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you need to stand up. And then he said one more time, he said, I'm going to ask you one more time,
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give me your ID. And I said, officer, you don't have to do this. And he said, I don't want to,
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Our chief of police, Chief Fry, after the resolution was signed in on Monday, I emailed him Tuesday morning, and I said, Officer Fry, he's a Christian man.
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I said, don't be like the Apostle Peter and run away when Jesus is getting sacrificed.
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So as I'm getting arrested, he's standing behind the arresting officer, and I said, this was your Daniel moment.
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And so they walked me over to the police car while Psalm 20 is singing.
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You can hear the handcuffs click in the videos that have been going viral.
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And it's just a beautiful juxtaposition as my people behind me are singing, and I'm getting arrested.
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And they walked me over to the cop car, and my brother walks up.
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So my brother's always late, so he walks up late.
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And then my associate pastor comes in, walking in, and he starts rebuking the officers.
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And there's a couple crazy things that have gone on through all this.
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First, our mayor, on September 5th, officiated a religious event without a mask, without social distancing.
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And then on September 2nd, he was at a gathering, a social gathering of more than 50 people.
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He attended that without a mask, without social distancing.
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I go sing psalms in City Hall, and I get arrested.
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And as they're checking me out, I was in jail for about two hours.
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My buddy, Sean Benet, him and his wife, Rachel, also got arrested.
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And his wife had to go to another jail cell because they actually believe in male and female here in Moscow.
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And as I'm getting released from jail, so I was there for about two hours, I look across the way.
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I'm sitting down talking to the deputy who's booking me out, getting all the information.
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And I'm sitting down, and across the way, there's three deputies in an office, and two of them aren't social distancing and aren't wearing masks.
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And so I walk over there, and I say, officer, arrest these people.
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And I said, no, you need to arrest these people.
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They aren't social distancing and wearing a mask.
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And so they basically, they didn't get physical with me, but they basically pushed me out of jail.
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Were these police officers when you said the deputy?
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So the MPD, Moscow Police Department, arrested me and then handed me over to the Latok County Jail, which is run by the sheriff's department.
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You should rethink your sheriff if your sheriff is for this kind of stuff.
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Sheriffs are the, they respond directly to the people.
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They are, they don't have to go through anybody else.
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If that's your sheriff, you should get them out.
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I don't know anything about this sheriff, but I'd be interested to see what he had to say about it.
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I was going to say, yeah, that's the nice thing about the sheriff is you can vote him in and out, but you can't do that to the Moscow police chief because he reports to the mayor.
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And the mayor and our city council is the one that's put everyone in this little.
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How did this small town vote for a council like this?
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Idaho is a conservative state, probably 70-30, but I'm in a university town.
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So Latok County, there's only two counties in Idaho that tend to vote liberal in the presidential race, and I'm in one of them.
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So even the conservatives, even the so-called conservatives that are on the council are absolutely liberal.
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Do you have somebody to represent you to bring this to court or?
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Yeah, well, I mean, obviously the thing's gone viral.
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I mean, we have basic constitutional rights that were violated.
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And, I mean, the constitutional right to worship tells the government that you can't tell me when to worship, where to worship, and how to worship.
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So I got a court hearing on Wednesday, and I'm talking to some lawyers.
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I haven't kind of finalized my game plan and all this.
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But, yeah, I'm going to fight this because I told the cops I was getting arrested.
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I said, man, I'm doing this for your liberties, brother.
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I mean, you guys did it like a Martin Luther King protest.
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You just stated things clearly, walked away with the officers, and you did it right.
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It's hard to, when you're wrestling with a cop, it's hard to figure out who the good guy and the bad guy is sometimes.
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We have yet another priest, this one in Minnesota, that has been silenced by the church.
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He gave a sermon on the coronavirus, the truth revealed, where he said some controversial things, for sure.
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But he said, we're being manipulated and played.
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And the church has chastised him because his homily went against the Pope Francis's exhortation that sermons be a consoling encounter with God's word and a constant source of renewal and growth.
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He said, oh, OK, so they're not supposed to talk about things.
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I'm telling you, there's a war in all of our churches, and there is a war going on, and we are not fighting men.
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We're not fighting against the Democratic Party.
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And quite honestly, for those who are awake in the Democratic Party, they're fighting it, too.
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Luckily, this weekend, there is, I think, something that is really critically important.
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Whether you're there or you do it yourself tomorrow, but there is a prayer march tomorrow in Washington, D.C. with Franklin Graham.
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And Jonathan Kahn is also holding an event called The Return, the National and Global Day of Prayer and Repentance.
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I don't believe in our lifetime we have ever seen America at the places that now, as you said, are critical.
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In fact, I don't know that America has ever been.
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We are in danger of literally a collapse of judgment.
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You know, Glenn, at the beginning of this nation, you know, there were promises made.
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You know, and actually, even the Puritan saying, if we follow God, we'll be the most blessed, powerful, prosperous nation on Earth.
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But if we turn away from God, those blessings are going to be removed.
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We've done all these things that we're following in the ancient mistake of ancient Israel.
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I mean, we've never been so critical as we are right now that we have to return to God.
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And if we don't, we may pass the point of no return.
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So, Jonathan, you wrote The Harbinger and The Harbinger 2.
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And you were – I think you had your dates wrong on the Shemitah.
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But you have been a voice that has really exposed this all the way along as a spiritual battle.
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I've followed you since The Harbinger came out.
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And I'm not sure this is just a bad time for America.
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I mean, I believe that there's a chance – the headline today in the Jerusalem Post was
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the world is witnessing biblical prophecies or the times of fulfillment of the Bible,
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I think there's a shot that this is the beginning of those things foretold.
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If you remember, Glenn, when we first met and I, we spoke about The Harbinger.
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And The Harbinger, for those of you, is the biblical template of a nation's judgment.
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And what it is, you know, it begins with a strike on the land.
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As we see, this is the pattern, again and again in the Bible, an enemy makes a strike.
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But then there is a window of time that the nation is given, and a span of years.
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And that's why I knew when I wrote The Harbinger, it was not the end.
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And we have followed – in that window of time we've had, we have followed – we haven't
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And that's exactly what happened to ancient Israel.
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And one of the things is, Glenn, and this is why I knew that this year was not only the
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year for the return, but also for the sequel, The Harbinger 2, because there's a time period
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given in the Bible where – how long is it from that strike, that first warning, to the
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time when the greater shakings come on the land?
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Well, with ancient Israel, it was a period of 19 years, from the strike to the year that
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And so we are seeing the shakings coming, and we are watching the danger of this window
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of time ending, where we have to choose one way or the other.
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In fact, the prophet Jeremiah, when he's talking about this 19th year, what's going to happen,
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one of the things he says, he talks about plague, he talks about shaking.
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Well, we are shaking, and if we don't get this warning now, again, this is the time we
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I think that – I didn't understand men's hearts will fail them until this year.
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The number of people that – it's not hard yet.
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And the number of people that will cower in fear and won't say anything because they'll
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be kicked out of school, they will lose their job, they'll lose friends, they'll lose family.
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You know what's right, and you won't do it thinking, well, this one's a little one.
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But if you don't do the little ones, you don't stand a chance when it gets hard.
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In fact, I mean, we have been paralyzed, and we have never in the history of America have
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And by the way, there's a chapter, this chapter in the Harmony that says things to come, and
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The shakings are the breakdown of society, the disorder, you know, civil disorders, another
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one, the breakdown of the economy, all of these things, and really grinding to a halt.
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And one of the things is that I was praying, you know, this was a year ago, and I'm praying,
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And I got, because I always knew there was going to be a hard way to do it, and I got
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that, but I said, okay, this is the year, and then I got a very strong thing that this
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is going to be the year of shaking, and I'm telling people this before all this happened.
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And the thing is, we didn't realize, you know, one of the things that in September 26th,
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this was frozen over a year ago, we didn't realize it turns out on the biblical
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calendar, it is an appointed day tomorrow, we didn't know it, and it's called Shabbat
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Shuvah, which means the Sabbath, it's a Saturday, and of Shuvah, the word means the return, we
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Wait, wait, did you break, wait, wait, is my headphones, or did you break up, I didn't
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hear, you said, okay, I'm sorry, it was my headphones that broke up.
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Shuvah actually means the return, we had no idea.
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Yeah, it's appointed from the biblical calendar to be a day of return for a nation to return
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to God, and there's an appointed scripture that can be read all over the world, in the
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synagogues of the world, and it's all about having a sacred assembly, a solemn assembly
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of return and repentance, exactly what we're going to do on the National Mall.
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We had no idea, so I believe this is so much the appointed time.
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So, Jonathan, is this coordinated with Franklin Graham's, or is it just, because I know of
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yours long before, and I know Franklin is doing on the Mall, so there should be lots
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Yeah, and there's also people who just fear God, and they're coming, you know.
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This was said, yeah, as you know, a while back.
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Franklin called us up and said, I want to do a march, so he's going to do a march from
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the Lincoln Memorial coming across for, it'll be two hours, happening in the middle of the
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The return is going to be the entire day, starting at 9 a.m.
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by the, in between the Washington Monument and Capitol Hill, and it's going to be, it's
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a gathering, it's really a sacred assembly, you know, which literally, if God used in
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ancient times to bring a nation back, and if actually God used in American history to
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bring America back before, so it's all going to be converging, that's why I believe so much
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the Lord, tomorrow, all converging, we didn't plan this, you know, but it's all coming at
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Well, I will tell you, I'm speaking and praying tomorrow there, and it's an honor to
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have even been asked to go, a lot of really, really big people are involved in this, and
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God doesn't care about the big people, he wants to hear it from us, and if you can get
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to Washington tomorrow, please go to Washington, if not, can you watch this online?
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Yes, it's going to be, the return, the return's going to be broadcast, simultaneously broadcast
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all over America and all over the world, if they go to thereturn.org, you can find out
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how you can see, and also, it's going to be on television and other things, but starts
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at 9, goes to about 5 o'clock, and we're going to have a thing afterwards of just celebration,
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but the thing is that, no matter where you are, it doesn't matter, if you can make it,
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great, we'll be there, if you can't, at your home, at your church, it doesn't matter,
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really, concentrate this day for prayer, repentance, pray for America, and return, and revival,
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because without revival, there's no future, and it begins with us, it's the people of
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God, we're the ones, have to turn to God first.
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Thank you so much, my friend, I really appreciate it.
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