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Marklevin calls in on a surprise whim today, and we talk to him about his new book, the current events, and a new study comparing the events of Jan. 6th, 2020 and the 1980s.
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welcome to the podcast what a show today very we had some we had a surprise guest today calling
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out of nowhere the one the only mark levin author of the number one book in america for 2021
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without any press uh help nothing no no today show interviews for mark levin and still had
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the number one book in america we'll talk to him uh kind of on a surprise whim today but it was a
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fun conversation with mark and glenn bill o'reilly joins us as well he's on the program michael malice
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is on the program as well ben weingarten has a new study out comparing january 6th to summer 2020 and
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the george floyd riots what were the scale of these two events that is amazing as well it's all coming
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mark levin calling in hello mark is this glenn beck is this mark levin glenn i just wanted to say
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i just felt compelled to call you and tell you you are the number one person in radio when it
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comes to wardrobes i want to tell you something this wardrobe thing today is absolutely yeah i'm
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a sharp dresser am i uh you're obviously it's really yeah you're obviously watching the show this
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morning yeah because i'm wearing a mark levin i'm especially watching your left part of your breast
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there hey hey hey my eyes are up here buddy my eyes are up here how are you mark where they belong
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i'm good how are you buddy uh you know frustrated but yeah you know that you know that very well
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i'm doing great but the country's going to hell so that's a problem i know i know yeah good to talk
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to you thank you well you know june 6th is very very important uh january rather excuse me uh january
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6th is a very very important day uh it's the day i've really celebrate to hate the left hate them
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more than i usually do and um i thought january 6th we should recognize as the day that murder has gone
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through the roof thanks to democrat policies i really think we ought to turn january 6th into
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an anniversary and uh isn't it sick the two realities we have the real one where people live and then this
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phony collaboration with the media and the democrats and i could be it's like two damn
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different worlds isn't it yeah it is and um you know the the media has gone from uh fake to knowingly
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uh knowingly lying and obstructing uh they really are and i hated this when donald trump said it the
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first time but they really have become the enemy of the people i mean this this january 6th thing is
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total nonsense total nonsense well they've destroyed the free prince i mean when you watch
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this guy trip todd with this haircut uh like eddie munster whatever they do they put like a spaghetti
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stranger on his head and then they and then they take a razor i don't know what they do with this guy
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but uh like the dumbest low iq guy and there he is all over nbc and then they have uh george stefanopoulos
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who is a complete joke i mean everybody knows he used to you know attack women and now there he is
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at abc and look what's going on just a second mark mark mark mark mark mark mark hang on just a second
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stew can you get the producers on the phone and see if we can move uh uh steward scheller to next hour
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because i i mean i don't want to i don't want to cheat steward of time and i also don't want to cut
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mark off because uh yes we'll do you know mark is crankier than i am and that's saying something
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today i was just calling about his life and i don't know what's going on now i know i know
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so did you see kamala harris yesterday as soon as she came on i shut it off
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she is so unlikable just absolutely unlikable you know if somebody has the worst voice in radio
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that would be me her voice i listen to her voice and i can't stand it you know and you know she's
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such a phony and it's just unbelievable to compare this to pearl harbor and 9-11 and stuff like that is
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absolutely unbelievable the people who died the families and so forth and as you know and i'm sure
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you've said it the only person who died that day was in his patriot who was uh who was shot dead but
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the same people who celebrated the riots the same people who celebrated black lives matter and all
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we don't need lessons from them it this is this whole thing is kind of a cover-up for pelosi who
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didn't do what she should have done to protect that capitol building and have you ever seen a more
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repugnant and repulsive person than liz cheney seriously i just just just grotesque
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the bushes let me let me i don't come on till six you see yeah i know you got a long way to go
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brother um let me uh let me play something here for you this is from biden's speech yesterday
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can you yeah can you play the part where uh you know just because you lose the former president
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of the united states of america has created and spread a web of lies about the 2020 election
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he's done so because he values power over principle because he sees his own interest
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is more important than his country's interest than america's interest and because his bruised ego
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matters more to him than our democracy or our constitution he can't accept he lost
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he can't accept that he lost please play uh cut five for me please here are the democrats
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yes or no do you still maintain the 2018 election was stolen that's your language my full language was that
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it was stolen from the voters of georgia we do not know what they would have done because not every
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eligible georgian was permitted to participate fully in the election and you know this if katherine
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harris jeb bush jim baker and the supreme court hadn't tampered with the results al gore would be
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george bush would be back in austin i don't see this president elect as a legitimate president
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you do not consider him a legitimate president and al gore and joel lieberman got 547 000 more votes
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than george bush did for president united states folks you know it i know it they know it we won that
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election i believe he knows he's an illegitimate president he knows he knows that there were a
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bunch of different reasons why the election turned out the way it did let's go back to florida
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we actually won the last presidential election folks they stole the last presidential election
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i think it's also critical to understand that as i've been telling candidates who have come to see me
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you can run the best campaign you can even become the nominee and you can have the election stolen
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from you was president george bush legitimately elected without voter suppression stacy abrams would
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be the governor of georgia okay stop they they cannot handle losing a single time a single time and
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they're now blaming insurrection on this president questioning the outcome
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there's no question about it and you know uh when their people blew up the capitol building in 1954
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jimmy carter ultimately pardoned them and weather on the ground blew it up in 1971 clinton ultimately pardoned
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them and one of the ringleaders was obama's buddy del airs and they attacked the pentagon and blew that up
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then they blew up the state department then they circled back in 1983 and hit the capitol building
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again um really january 6 is their may one it's their may day that's what we're dealing with here
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as far as i'm concerned of course these are liars these are hypocrites they do this sort of thing
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the biggest problem we have is the greatest enemy we have in this country is the democrat party
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whether it's slavery or segregation or jim crow and now it's quote-unquote democratic socialism
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they never embrace americanism this party has been a a poison a cancer on the on the groin of the of
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american politics really and uh and you see the reprobates that that lead it biden biden is a nasty
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man he he joined in with the segregationist when he got elected then he tried to destroy clarence thomas
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he tried to destroy bob or this is a mean nasty guy kamala harris is as stupid as she seems to be
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perfectly honest about and then you have nancy pelosi i call her eva pelosi because she called
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those brave federal law enforcement men and women who are trying to protect the federal courthouse in
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portland stormtroopers uh now of course she loves uh loves only law enforcement that protects her but
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we could go on and on with this they're so corrupt the media corrupt these people are going to look at
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chuck todd his wife is a democrat consultant he worked for harkin george stephan avalas with clinton you can
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go right down the line the uh the the incestuous relationship between the press and the democrat
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part you can't tell the difference between their propaganda ever and i'd love to see their texts and
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emails they're so worried about hannity's can you imagine can you imagine the texts and emails between
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people at cnn and msnbc and democrats with capitol hill oh yeah let me ask you this i just didn't i love
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that sweatshirt you're wearing yeah you think you can get that uh at uh blaze merch i think you can
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get that where what's the address where you can get this i don't really know i get it for free
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yeah i got mine for free too i love it uh mark i wear it all the time um let me ask you this i just did
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an interview with uh go ahead i'm sorry uh i just did an interview with donald trump in my mind there
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is absolutely no doubt he is running again what are your thoughts on on him running is it the same
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kind of outcome who do they have to run against him well uh they're worried about him running again
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that's what this is all about obviously exactly right but they fear him more than anybody else
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uh the rhinos the never trumpers fear him more than anybody else we have a very good team i mean
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you got a lot of people you've got desantis and others right behind him but desantis is 43 years old
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um you've got others but uh you know when you look at his presidency it was an enormously effective
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presidency you know you and i backed ted cruz early on and then after the nomination we supported
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donald trump and donald trump has been a far more conservative president than either of the
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bushes uh neither than the rhinos would ever want him to be and i've come to really like the man
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personally you've met him he's very charismatic he's very nice man he's a very kind man they'll
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never show you that side of him because they attack attack attack the thing is and everybody knows it
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look what they did with the fbi the fisa court the intelligence agencies criminal investigations
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we have never seen anything like this before now the big lie january 6th i can tell you they don't
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want to talk about what happened in the 2020 election you're only allowed to talk about what
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they want you to talk about we'll talk about whatever the hell we want to and i have to tell you
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mark yeah go ahead no go ahead i'm rambling i know but even putting aside the ballots and the
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machines i can tell you in pennsylvania they violated the federal constitution my wife was
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involved in that litigation they violated the federal constitution we stood for the constitution
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the united states these democrats their lawyers were all over the country particularly in these
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battleground states changing the rules through their their democrat elected judges through their
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democrat governors overturning what republican state legislatures were doing which is a violation of
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the federal constitution in order to set the groundwork for biden and we're not even allowed
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to talk about it and so when these republican legislatures 19 of them so far have said that we're going to
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fix this not to change uh the outcome of elections but to get them back where they can actually be
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monitored jim crow and all the rest i mean uh tens of millions of people they are sick of this they're
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fed up with the the the drama that the press creates and the democrat party creates these are
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the same people who have lied to us over and over again about everything by the way mark levin
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mark levin thanks for calling in man i really appreciate it uh by the way watch my special i if i think
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you have a subscription to blaze tv yes watch the interview i did with uh donald trump about halfway
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through i ask him about cleaning out all of the agencies and shutting down the department of ed
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uh it's really telling you should really listen to that because i think that's what needs to be done
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all these things just need to be cleaned out or shut down mark last thing congratulations on the number
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one book of the year it i don't know of a conservative that has ever done that i couldn't be happier for
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you tremendous book and thank you thank you and you are were a big help and it is a great honor
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and i want to thank you for all you do with this country too man really you're just terrific so you
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have a good day same with stew all right you too god bless god god bless you thanks mark levin
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you're listening to the best of the glenbeck program
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how was your holiday sir oh you're talking to me you're talking to me
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unless i have another bill i mean i don't know you got 55 000 people on the show
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i got a sweatshirt i got a sweatshirt okay do you if i send it when you wear it
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okay i know i'm gonna have to send it to extra extra extra large but i'll get it i'll get it
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whoa that's obviously a fat joke no i am possibly on my deathbed possibly on my deathbed with a bout
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of covid and i'm still in here slugging away for america and you come with a fat joke
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you know deeply i feel your pain even though i don't have covid because i don't go out of the
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basement i live in the basement and i'm not going out i'm not going out for another two years
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but i feel your pain back so i hope you get i will tell you this look i had covid before there
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was a vaccine so i've been on the natural antibodies yeah and uh i just had an antibody
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test a couple of weeks ago and i have it now uh again this is the second time but honestly
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i it's really not that big of a deal it wiped me out the first time for about three weeks
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i've had it since wednesday and i'm already on the rebound and i can't get any you know can't get any
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kind of therapeutics because we either don't have any uh or they can't come to texas or my doctors
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are too afraid because the the um uh the medical association is is manhandling all of our doctors
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so but i'm making it bill i'm making him i'm glad to hear that back um but i'm sorry that your
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antibodies betrayed you um but i only have one question i think your listeners have this question
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too do you like hang out with covid infected people do you do you like go to a club and we
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all have covid is that twice twice are you i had it before there was a vaccine it's not i had it
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before there was a vaccine and so i got it early and then can i make a suggestion after you're better
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which will be soon i think you should walk around carrying a little bell like they used to do with
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leprosy just wherever you are just ring the bell so people know oh there he comes there's typhoid
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back uh bill i just did an interview with uh with donald trump it aired yesterday he was exceptional
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he wasn't wallowing in the past wasn't really talking about the past i got in all kinds of heat
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for it because i didn't ask him a january 6 question you know i asked him things that i think the
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average person care about gas prices inflation uh communists in every department uh anyway but i
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i uh i was really impressed and i was left without a shadow of a doubt that he intends on running oh and
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now with the attack yesterday by biden it's really personal now see um if you do that to donald trump if
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you go out of your way to try to humiliate him and marginalize him which is exactly what biden did
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for his whole speech yesterday and people should really understand what that was about it wasn't
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about bringing the nation together and saying hey uh all sane people realize we cannot have this ever
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again everybody should condemn it no it was he did it look at him he did it so what good is that
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do we all know that biden and the democratic party believe that donald trump instigated and
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encouraged the riot on january 6th everyone knows that so to do a national worldwide address and just
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repeat that again with no advancement of hey you know maybe this is a good lesson that we can't be
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kazakhstan because that's what they're doing this week um and that we have to solve our problems in a
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better way no none of that it was take trump off the board for 2024 that's what it was about
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there is also another attack that is mounting now uh somebody that was melania's uh pr person uh
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uh i know tell me about this this is this this attack is amazing yeah when this woman was hired i
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never met her i don't know her but i i went woo you know why why are you doing this now melania
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uh i know this to be true um very close friends with this woman very very tight and she wanted
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this grisham in the white house to be her spokesperson and then for a little while at the
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end she went over to uh trump to be in that communications office but the i i think that
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whether she what she says i don't know i mean i'm not reading her book it's a hatchet book it's like
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mary trump they want to make money bashing trump wow okay um so i don't really care what she says
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but the sense of betrayal here when you're that tight with somebody as she was with melania trump
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when you're invited to work for the white house which is an honor no matter who's in there and
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then you turn around and you try to destroy them oh boy you know people should really start to walk
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away from this kind of stuff you know and what people don't understand is um jonathan height did a
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great book stew what was the name of this book came out about five years ago the righteous mind
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the righteous mind and he laid out the the things that we have in common um but are shifted and we
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all have we all have loyalty in common we appreciate loyalty but it is at the bottom of the list for
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uh democrats and at the top it's the number one trait uh that people look towards uh who are
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conservative that you say what you mean and you mean what you say and you you stand you're not a
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fair weather friend you have a little dignity you know you know beck i gotta make i gotta make an
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observation here your analysis and and bringing that to the uh attention of your listeners is very
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important so maybe you should always have covet you see you're you're more cogent now shut up more
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you're lucid now so who are the who are the what is the candidate that could because there's a lot
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of republicans that i've talked to that say if he runs it's going to be the same thing and they're
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going to do the same thing and everybody's going to be absolutely right and everybody's going to be
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so tired of it they're going to want another choice and they just might go with the democrat
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and i cannot come up with a democrat that there's no there's no way they'll stay home so the people
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who are fed up with biden and trump and there are millions of them will just stay home but independence
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will i think if things continue along this line with the biden administration failing on every level
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and if they aren't failing on every level please tell me what level they're succeeding on
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correct you know i'm open-minded i'd like to hear where the success is but if we continue along these
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lines it's going to be okay oh who is going to do the least amount of damage i mean that's what it's
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going to be you're always going to have donald trump's flamboyance to use a kind word it's never
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going to go away so you have and and that's a decision i made and and so this is personal for me
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so i said to myself do i want to go out on a history tour with a controversial guy like donald trump
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um where i know i'm going to get attacked and i did i mean you know but i can handle it um or do i
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just want to pass and and just continue to do i didn't need to do that tour um but i decided to do
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it because i think based upon the facts that trump did a good job in the four years representing the
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united states he did that's what my belief now do i like the way he handled himself sometimes now
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and i've told him that and i told him that so wait the independent the new poll shows independence
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biden has hit an all-time low of 24 24 percent approval rating wow that's unheard of so who is
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going to run against donald trump well everyone looks like mariam you know maybe liz cheney will
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run no no no no no no i mean i mean on the democratic side far out that's not that look she's not going
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to win in wyoming she's not going to be a congressperson anymore so she could absolutely primary trump
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um big name she can raise money so that's not that crazy out but if the republicans believe that trump
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is not going to win primary him so my question is because i think he gets the the nomination uh my
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question is who do the democrats run against him because they're not going to run biden
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i don't think so either but they don't have anybody to run so then you're going to fall back on hillary
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clinton who's already raising money again man i i just said this last week hillary clinton is going to
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run again that's who he'll run against and she's already setting it up because she knows what a
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fiasco the biden administration is look even if you loathe hillary clinton and bill they have a machine
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okay they know how to govern in a sense that it's not a disorganized mess it's not a kamala harris
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coming out and excoriating the capital protesters while she wanted to raise bail money for the people
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who were burning down cities i mean that's just insane if you were writing her speech would you
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really want to do that well would you really want to bring attention to that no you could have
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avoided that and said this is a bad thing let's get the problem solved so we don't have to do this again
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that was a speech you should have gave but they have no awareness at all but the clintons do
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and so it could be a setup between trump and hillary again that would be amazing bill o'reilly what uh
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what do you think the big story of the week is was it january 6th yeah i mean i think that's the big
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story of the week but it's gonna die and then you know they'll do all the sunday shows you know what
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they'll do uh reprise and how terrible trump is um but if you really want to step back the biggest
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story of the week was one million americans uh contracting covet or reporting it on monday
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i mean that is just an amazing number uh i think this is i i think this is actually really good
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bill because yeah i understand i mean if it's i mean i think model if the south african model holds
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that you'll have another few weeks of this and then it'll fall off the cliff and then so many people
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have the antibodies which of course turned on you um that'll will die out and maybe some planes will
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like get back in the air uh yeah because there's covid unintended consequences is amazing go ahead
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yeah uh but it's not really covid consequences i i think it is more of the government consequences
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we could get back to america uh in probably a few weeks here if they would stop uh helping people
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stay home by giving them more money than they can make out in the in the private sector i think
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i i agree 100 on that and i know you and i have disagreed in the past but um if you step back on this
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the best thing for the government do now because they can't answer any questions i mean they can't
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even answer a question like how long does a vaccine last they can't even answer it so they don't have
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any information for us so just shut up you know i told stew a few uh weeks ago to do that but now i'm
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going to take that back stook and talk but the federal government can't because they don't know
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anything about covid you know anthony fauci we we should do the pinata thing with him he has to run
00:28:57.880
through a long line and we just whack them with you know i don't want to hurt but with paper or
00:29:04.560
something because this is just a farce now it's crazy now uh and the fact that you know i i have
00:29:13.480
i you know there's really uh no treatments that the government is recommending or pushing or not
00:29:23.400
tearing down that's the key they're tearing down everything that is a treatment well millions of
00:29:29.700
americans are getting it so what do we do besides isolate at home everything that is a possible
00:29:36.460
treatment that i personally know people who have done other treatments once they've gotten it and
00:29:42.140
it's helped them the government is standing in the way of i mean it is it's so clear what this
00:29:48.220
government is doing but i don't know i think it's almost over i have to sit one out because i don't
00:29:54.300
know i'm not a medical person the fda is supposed to um you know say this stuff is safe i don't know
00:30:02.000
what i do my advice to everybody is get a doctor you trust follow the doctor's advice don't listen to
00:30:09.960
the government i mean you know i'd have to give that advice to doctors now i'd have to give that advice
00:30:16.220
to doctors now because doctors a lot of doctors are not able to do the things that they truly believe
00:30:23.140
in and have seen work um but what does your doctor have a solution to you i mean do they recommend
00:30:32.920
therapeutics for you my doctor yeah absolutely my doctor got me through the first case uh i think it
00:30:40.160
would have been even worse than it was he got me through the first case um but now any of the the
00:30:46.040
other therapeutics he is he's like i glenn if i write it he said i've already been threatened i
00:30:52.100
think it's because he's my doctor um he said i've already been threatened that you know don't go off
00:30:58.240
the beaten path it's awful it is awful and there are a lot of doctors that feel that way all right
00:31:04.460
thank you so much uh for being on i'm sorry to cut you loose early this week uh but we had a shift in
00:31:12.880
the schedule because of a call with mark levin uh but thanks a lot we'll talk to you again next week
00:31:17.760
bill o'reilly make sure you follow him on billoreilly.com is no spin zone on every day billoreilly.com
00:31:32.280
michael malice joining us before i get there i just want to say um because last night the painting
00:31:43.400
that i did of joe lewis um being knocked out by max schmeling schmeling called uh that i call it
00:31:50.560
the birth of a champion uh was trending last night because it was it was on during an interview with
00:31:56.600
uh with donald trump and uh they're calling it nazi propaganda it couldn't be further from the
00:32:01.940
truth i've said that i'm not going to sell this there's one person i would sell this to i would
00:32:06.540
sell it to joe rogan because he would appreciate the uh uh the message in this if joe wants to buy it
00:32:14.480
great otherwise i'm keeping the original but i am going to today i'm asking somebody to come over
00:32:20.280
um you know with a mask and gloves and get it and copy it because i am going to sell prints of this
00:32:26.700
um because it's you know that controversial nazi painting by glennbeck which has nothing to do with
00:32:34.080
that has everything to do with learn your lesson stand back up and knock that guy out uh all right
00:32:40.900
michael malice is with us hi michael good morning how are you sir i'm much better than you my condolences
00:32:48.980
on your uh illness uh and and whatever you think i promise you it's not karma
00:32:53.680
it might be it might be but you know i had it before there was a vaccine so i've been riding on
00:33:02.920
the antibodies um and uh i just got it what wednesday i just it hit me like a bag of bricks
00:33:10.860
but now with an exception of just some lingering mouth problems with my voice uh i'm pretty much
00:33:17.660
past it i mean it the first time i had it it knocked me out for about three weeks uh this
00:33:22.720
is just like a really really bad cold this time yeah two of my friends got it over the weekend
00:33:27.980
and and uh it's it's it's a scary word you know like i was feeling a little bit under weather last
00:33:33.340
week and i'm like is this it is this you know is this showtime uh and it was just kind of allergies
00:33:38.520
whatever but it's scary and i hope everyone listening you know stays healthy and happy of course
00:33:43.320
yeah michael i don't know if you heard this uh glenn talking about the backstory of this uh painting
00:33:49.580
that he did of joe lewis and max schmeling and this reaction from chris hayes of msnbc and you know
00:33:56.320
to be fair tons of other people on the left uh he they see this painting in the background of one of
00:34:01.740
his interviews they say oh my gosh he's got nazi propaganda up there because this is when max
00:34:07.020
schmeling had beaten joe lewis and you know any simple googling gets you to the explanation as to
00:34:13.960
what this painting is that glenn's praising you know like you have a failure and that turns your
00:34:18.720
life around and that's the important moment when you when you fail that that leads to success in the
00:34:23.900
future and you know you've talked about the media really well over over the years and you i think
00:34:27.960
understand this better than so many others what is the motivation here like why would you embarrass
00:34:32.860
yourself and not even look for the facts here why just attack your opponents with with without any
00:34:39.640
knowledge whether you're right or wrong google's a google search i'm going to give you two answers
00:34:45.960
first i'm going to play devil's advocate because i i think you guys remember it was like a year ago
00:34:50.700
when former senator senate candidate harold ford was staying at an airbnb and behind him on the wall
00:34:56.980
with andy warhol's painting of chairman mal and warhol meant it as a finger to mal
00:35:01.780
as an example of how mal had become a quote-unquote celebrity in the same way that warhol painted
00:35:07.720
elizabeth taylor and mal in the row and all the conservators were freaking out that this was communist
00:35:13.140
propaganda even though it wasn't his house and even though it would be a simple googling so that's
00:35:16.980
number one so this goes people misunderstand art very easily the whole point of art is that it's
00:35:22.620
open to interpretation and the other problem is people who are corporate journalists are often not
00:35:27.920
very bright so they are going to have that knee-jerk reaction but as you guys have seen as everyone
00:35:32.620
listening to this knows the demand for nazis outweighs the supply there is such desperation
00:35:39.800
on the part of you know corporate media outlets to find nazis that they're looking for them
00:35:47.080
everywhere uh to the point where people are often painting you know uh fascist slogans to demonstrate
00:35:54.140
that there's fascism and they're later caught and they're often you know so you're minority people
00:35:59.220
are minority you're you're saying this is nazi inflation too many nazi hunters chasing too few
00:36:05.100
nazis i mean we we laugh but i mean it would be a very serious problem and it's not to pretend that
00:36:13.100
there are no you know quasi fascists in american culture and certainly in europe nowadays but the
00:36:19.740
premise that glenn beck would be dumb enough to sit in front of a nazi painting while he's interviewing
00:36:27.560
a president and have that be some kind of subtle dog whistle that no one's going to pick up that is
00:36:33.540
what's amazing they have a complete lack of ability to empathize with other perspectives and they're just
00:36:40.600
waiting in every moment for the math to drop so to speak which is kind of a bit of projection
00:36:45.960
uh and you saw this also with uh you know the trump's charlotte charlotte speech where when he
00:36:51.720
condemned white nationalists in the same breath when he said both sides the clip is there it's in
00:36:57.160
indisputable but you know president biden brings it up to this day so what is your take on
00:37:04.800
i think that's the biggest story of the week he's kind of a little bit there um michael but he said uh
00:37:11.140
what's your take on january 6th if that didn't come through oh yeah so i mean
00:37:15.940
i mean i mean it's very tragic uh aoc had to talk to a cop for five minutes and she was traumatized
00:37:22.840
for months rashida tlaib remember was crying on the floor of the house aoc had to comfort her uh
00:37:29.040
there were some bottles of water knocked over someone had to speed up on pelosi's death here's
00:37:33.720
my takeaway and and i'm going to get a little bit serious for a minute where has president trump been
00:37:39.420
he defended the people when he was giving that charlottesville speech the people when he said
00:37:44.480
there's good people on both sides he was referring to the controversy about removing statues that's
00:37:50.000
what he was defending the people were saying we shouldn't remove statues the people on january 6th
00:37:55.460
were his people they were all his people these were his hardcore supporters now they're being held
00:38:00.620
in detention in horrible conditions for who knows how long they are his hardcore supporters
00:38:06.260
and he shrugs his shoulders and i think this is the big problem that conservatives have to appreciate
00:38:12.660
when it comes to donald trump we had four years of president trump being attacked for the most
00:38:18.660
demented things imaginable including how many scoops of ice cream he had yes that he fed the fish wrong
00:38:24.300
when he was in japan even though he's following the prime minister's lead queen elizabeth gestured for
00:38:29.740
him to walk in front of her which he did then she couldn't get around him because he's a lot bigger
00:38:34.420
they cropped the first part where she gestured so it looks like he just stood in front of her like
00:38:39.060
a buffoon so we had four years of that so understandably conservatives got protective
00:38:44.340
and defensive of president trump he's not in office now it's been a year and i would encourage
00:38:49.560
conservatives take a step back and realize not every criticism of president trump has been inaccurate
00:38:55.120
because the man has shown a severe lack of loyalty towards people who have been loyal to him
00:39:01.800
and i'm thinking specifically of michael flynn and i'm thinking of especially of jeff session
00:39:06.660
who was probably the strongest anti-illegal immigrant person in the senate became attorney
00:39:12.580
general because of him trump got him primaried and he blew a senate seat in alabama how does that happen
00:39:19.620
so if people are looking forward to 2024 keep in mind this guy's loyalty is a one-way street and
00:39:27.040
that's a big problem because conservatives tend to be very very loyal people
00:39:31.420
i i agree with that we were just talking about how loyalty is number one you i know you know the
00:39:38.060
jonathan uh height book um but loyalty is number one on the scale and it's it's interesting because
00:39:44.040
i do think that it that is the number one thing with donald trump is loyalty um and in talking to
00:39:51.960
him you know i just sat down with him uh about a month ago and then i had dinner with him and his
00:39:56.000
wife and i i came away with the impression and this is just from you know the off the record just
00:40:03.080
dinner conversation i came away from that meeting feeling as though the truly the main reason he would run
00:40:13.640
again is because he doesn't want to let the people down that he trusted and said i will do this
00:40:20.980
and then was doing it and then and then lost and he knows he can fix it and he is expressed it in
00:40:29.380
several different ways but it was the same thing i'm not going to leave those people without anyone who
00:40:37.560
will fight for them i here let's bring some receipts when president trump got into office the federal
00:40:45.200
the federal budget was four trillion dollars under obama two years later before covid it was 4.4
00:40:52.760
trillion an increase of 10 percent under his watch he was he promised as when he campaigned and this
00:41:00.360
was a very legitimate promise from his background that he knew the best people and he was going to
00:41:05.940
staff his cabinet with the best people and we thought he was going to bring in all these outsiders
00:41:10.880
people you'd never expect to see in politics and the next thing you know it's rent previous
00:41:15.380
and the chairman of exxon is the secretary of state his staffing decisions i think everyone has to
00:41:22.900
acknowledge were horrible he's driving out people who have so mind like steve bannon and he's bringing
00:41:29.000
in the swamp creatures all right so let me let me just push back on that and because i'd like to hear
00:41:34.860
your opinion on it um i in the interview i did i said you got a clean house um and he talked about
00:41:43.300
he talked about the you know he had two jobs to fix the country and to survive and he said uh i can't go
00:41:52.900
in there with the same gop i can't go in there with the same group of people i have to have people
00:41:59.140
around me that are on the same page because pretty much i gotta fire everybody in every department
00:42:05.600
and i think he gets that i've talked to people who are inside the administration before and
00:42:10.760
they said the one mistake that they made was they underestimated the power of all of these long-term
00:42:18.760
bureaucrats and the republican party uh that they would be so against him um and he's not gonna he's not
00:42:26.980
gonna repeat that now i don't know who he staffs it with and who he gets to have the balls to run some
00:42:33.080
of these things to fire or shut down these departments um but that's what it's going to
00:42:38.500
take one way or another love to hear your response so if you don't know who michael malice is um he is
00:42:44.740
the guy who's written the anarchist handbook he is an anarchist but not the antifa throw bombs
00:42:51.640
through windows kind of uh anarchist am i right on that michael please verify that i not through
00:42:57.920
windows but you know um he does he believes that if there were no government um we would be we'd all
00:43:09.100
be better off i i disagree with that but i i lean towards uh in fact i don't lean towards i'd like to
00:43:16.860
shut down all of the department of fill in the blank i'd like them all to be gone um they have
00:43:23.840
no they have no place in our in our um in our government in my opinion so michael is coming
00:43:31.620
from a different place but i like that because he makes me think things through and pushes me up
00:43:37.440
against the wall so i i question the things that i think i believe i think that's really important
00:43:43.540
so michael your response on what i just said here about a minute ago right so you were talking about
00:43:49.140
how president trump said to you uh that he understands he has to you know fire a lot of
00:43:53.780
these staffers and bring in good people my pushback would be like does he understand this or does he
00:44:00.060
understand what he needs to say to you in order to maintain your support in the next cycle and here's
00:44:06.620
the evidence to the contrary there's something called revealed preferences right if you tell your
00:44:11.420
spouse i love you i love you i love you but you're never home and you're cheating on them
00:44:15.440
talk is cheap your actions are telling trump is launching a social media company who did he hire to
00:44:22.700
run this social media company devin nunez devin nunez's entire background is being one a dairy farmer
00:44:29.400
and then a congressman what does he know about running a social media company all he knows is he has a
00:44:35.540
rolodex in washington he's a creature of the swamp now he might be a great conservative he might i'm sure
00:44:40.040
he's a very ethical great person so on and so forth but to say that he's some kind of outsider
00:44:44.780
is nonsensical so trump had the opportunity to and the other thing is and this is not his fault
00:44:51.780
he's been rendered so radioactive why would i if i was working in wall street san francisco la new york
00:45:00.940
why would i want working on the trump administration on my resume it would ruin my career and again this is
00:45:07.500
not trump's fault at all but that has been an issue for him in the past and going forward it's going
00:45:12.960
to be even more of an issue yeah i i do agree with that it is going to be hard to get people and then
00:45:18.740
that is you know we have to have people who understand where we are in our society it is
00:45:26.520
look it's almost lights out time uh and um you know maybe we deserve it um because we have taken
00:45:34.800
this for granted for so long uh and we've been running on other generations vapors for so long and
00:45:42.160
we've become this monstrosity uh that is all run in washington so uh maybe we deserve it but i think
00:45:50.240
the original premise is worth uh uh saving i don't know where he gets those people i mean you know
00:45:57.020
you look at denovan nunez you see him as an insider i see him as an insider outsider you know what i mean
00:46:02.540
he's a guy who's been there who doesn't like the way it's running and has been standing up for it it's a
00:46:08.040
little like ran paul yes he's in um but he's he's working hard from within to try to uh to shut it down
00:46:17.620
are those people are important or are they the same they're very important i'm not questioning
00:46:22.860
that at all but my point to you is what evidence do you have that devin nunez knows anything about
00:46:27.640
social media now it's so the it runs so it's clear that trump got him as he hires most of his people
00:46:34.660
because of a sense of loyalty to him now that's very important because he's been betrayed left and
00:46:39.260
right but my point is he's because of all the forces against him conservative have to appreciate
00:46:45.540
he got beaten by a corpse in the 2020 election and these same forces are now even more powerful
00:46:52.280
because they have the white house and you can't tell me that he shouldn't have seen it coming
00:46:57.780
all the machinations that the democrats did in various states to finagle the vote to make sure
00:47:03.260
they got the result they wanted there was that time magazine article bragging about these coalitions
00:47:08.060
that was behind the scenes molly hemingway uh did a great book called rig discussing it it's nothing
00:47:12.900
to the voting machines it had to do it with a year-long uh series of attempts including things
00:47:18.840
by mark zuckerberg to get the result i agree with you michael malice thanks for stopping in
00:47:24.440
michael malice you can follow him at michael malice