The Glenn Beck Program - January 19, 2021


Best of The Program | Guests: Mike Netter & Gad Saad | 1⧸19⧸21


Episode Stats

Length

38 minutes

Words per Minute

154.63943

Word Count

6,013

Sentence Count

6

Misogynist Sentences

1

Hate Speech Sentences

7


Summary

Trump's new army is vile. The National Guard is a bunch of old people, old people and women, and that's what's trending on social media right now. What does that say about the state of the union?


Transcript

00:00:00.000 hey it's a tuesday podcast even more exciting than the monday podcast every day is better than
00:00:07.900 the day before meaning every day is the best day of our lives well today today tomorrow can you
00:00:12.960 imagine with the inauguration finally we get that trump guy out of our hair oh it's gonna be great
00:00:19.060 all the things we just want social media platforms to know everything we ever said about donald trump
00:00:23.680 or about the left or the right we were forced at gunpoint by our evil employers um bill yeah
00:00:32.500 marty mark bill and mario they're horrible so but we'll turn we'll turn on our friends on a dime
00:00:40.260 so you know if you got one of those hearings we'll tell you who the uh who the non-communists are
00:00:46.840 oh yeah we're we're we're gonna sing like a bird yeah sing like a bird sing like a bird but in the
00:00:52.360 meantime we're gonna do the exact opposite on today's podcast
00:00:56.020 you're listening to the best of the glenbeck program
00:01:06.220 all right trending on twitter and it's not conservatives it's the left
00:01:15.920 so therefore it's not hate hate speech hashtag trump's new army that's what's trending trump's
00:01:25.300 new army is vile i'm reading just some of the couple of the tweets and we know who they are
00:01:31.140 there are teachers they are our neighbors they are our police officers they are everywhere
00:01:39.100 expose the treason what wow remember treason is a very specific thing i don't think we've ever
00:01:49.480 accused anyone of tree i've never i said it's approaches treason it's seditious it's sedition
00:01:56.740 but treason is really really hard to prove because you need i think two witnesses don't you in the
00:02:05.860 constitution and it requires the death penalty of course the left wouldn't know that don winslow
00:02:13.280 new video hashtag trump's new army on january 20th donald trump will no longer be the commander-in-chief
00:02:21.180 he will lose control of the u.s armed forces but take control of a new army uh it shows a bunch of
00:02:28.680 quite honestly old people like maybe two young people in there but generally old people and women
00:02:35.600 uh and that's his his army it's going to be a very tired army uh and we're gonna in war you know
00:02:44.780 you always run run low of things that you're using uh fiber is going to be very hard to get a hold of
00:02:51.140 uh and the picture is the greatest threat comes from within so we have this and i just want to
00:02:57.940 paint a picture of what we're headed for i urge you urge you to get together with your church
00:03:05.360 tomorrow and pray pray tonight and tomorrow like you've never prayed before for the republic
00:03:12.020 um and you'll understand why representative steve cohen a democrat from tennessee during an interview
00:03:23.280 monday morning he said this morning i was reading uh this on my twitter account i guess so he's got the
00:03:32.620 news and people were reminding people of anwar sadat and indira gandhi who were killed by their own
00:03:40.740 people hmm he referenced the political leaders that have been assassinated by those who were tasked
00:03:49.540 with defending them you know i was thinking was he really steve were you i was thinking the national
00:03:58.920 guard is 90 some odd percent male only about 20 percent of white males voted for biden so you have
00:04:08.460 to figure that in the guard which is predominantly more conservative that i see on my social media and
00:04:14.960 we know it there's probably not more than 25 percent of the people that are there protecting us who voted
00:04:21.440 for biden the other 75 percent are in a class that would be the large class of folks that might want
00:04:28.640 to do something and there are there were military people and police who took oaths to defend the
00:04:34.420 constitution and protect and defend who didn't do it who were in the insurrection so it does concern me
00:04:41.900 um first of all that is the that is the worst thing you could say about our military our military does not
00:04:51.640 take an oath to protect the president of the united states that's donald trump that is uh joe biden
00:04:58.860 they protect the office of the united states therefore the person who resides in the office or getting the
00:05:05.080 office they take an oath to protect the constitution of the united states this is one of the only
00:05:12.540 militaries in the history of the world that has taken an oath to the idea of the constitution
00:05:20.680 and you're now tearing that apart when he was pushed on this are you saying really that uh the national
00:05:32.760 guard do you have any do you have any evidence at all well no fact absolutely not that's a quote
00:05:41.280 absolutely not it's crazy that you would even ask that i would have evidence absolutely not uh but you
00:05:47.140 know you draw a circle the first circle is the people who are for trump and not for biden as far uh as
00:05:54.920 far as uh people who would be within the zone of folks you could be suspect of the suspect group is large
00:06:02.000 so now you're a suspect if you didn't vote for biden this is very uniting the reason one of the
00:06:12.780 reasons why i bring this up is because uh their own people did kill those leaders their own people
00:06:23.900 did kill those leaders and i urge you to pray that god will thwart anything today tomorrow the future
00:06:35.220 anything any plot like that by anyone it will destroy the republic
00:06:43.460 now new york times reporter has tweeted former intelligence official on pbs news hour tonight saying
00:06:52.320 that the u.s should think about a 9-11 commission for domestic extremism and consider applying some of the
00:06:59.040 lessons from the far uh from the fight against al-qaeda here at home so now we're al-qaeda members
00:07:06.220 now we're as dangerous as al-qaeda
00:07:09.900 when we were debating the patriot act i unfortunately was too late on this bandwagon to see the truth
00:07:19.580 about a year after i was like oh wait a minute boy that was a mistake shouldn't have done that
00:07:24.980 uh but this is what we warned about and so many warned before me about the patriot act
00:07:33.200 you can you can just define terrorist any way you want and that can be turned as a weapon against the
00:07:41.340 american people it's extraordinarily dangerous but good news is not anybody of any real you know
00:07:48.620 power uh or any real name uh is behind this oh no wait a minute oh no wait a minute can you play the
00:07:58.660 hillary clinton uh clip please do you think we need a 9-11 type commission to investigate and report
00:08:06.940 everything that they can pull together and explain what happened i do uh let me again uh to your point
00:08:13.360 of who is he beholding to as i've said over and over as i said to him in that picture with my blue
00:08:19.020 suit as i was leaving what i was saying to him as i was pointing rudely at him with you mr president
00:08:26.700 all roads lead to putin i don't know what putin has on him politically financially personally gosh
00:08:33.580 but what happened last week was a gift to putin because putin wants to undermine i can't take it
00:08:38.920 anymore they're still wow still going after this now a met an ex-military officer retired air force
00:08:49.540 colonel mo davis a failed democratic congressional candidate tweeted something he said that it's time
00:08:58.420 to start a domestic war on american terrorists his tweet comes after uh cawthorne he is the uh
00:09:08.760 congressman that is confined in the wheelchair he's an amazing guy participated in the rally for donald
00:09:15.800 trump he said if i was the chief prosecutor at guantanamo for over two years and there is far
00:09:24.860 more evidence of congressman madison cawthorne's guilt than there was of the guilt for 95 plus percent
00:09:32.360 of the detainees it's time we started domestic war on sedition by american terrorists now this is the
00:09:41.560 same guy who tweeted screw uh screw they go low we go high bs when north carolina gop extremists go low
00:09:53.040 we stomp their scrawny pasty necks with our heels and once you hear the sound of a crisp snap you grind
00:10:01.080 your heel hard and twist it slowly side to side for good measure he needs to know who whooped his ass
00:10:08.320 that's a fantasy that's a that's a yeah that's that this guy's sick fantasy this guy is sick i
00:10:14.120 imagine i mean i assume obviously he's been banned from twitter so imagine what he would be tweeting
00:10:17.820 today no he's not bad no he's he's not banned from twitter no no no he's fine he still has his
00:10:23.600 account yeah no no he's not a domestic terrorist or inciting violence at all no of course not not even
00:10:28.800 the next snap no he's not sweet he's fine he's fine what are you talking about we're talking about
00:10:33.880 domestic terrorism and people who are spewing hatred we're talking about republicans hello okay okay uh
00:10:40.700 but um katie korak has a really really good idea here's katie korak what do you do about people who
00:10:49.400 are in the government who don't believe in our way of government like it is so shocking not only do
00:10:55.980 are they not conceding bill but there's thoughts that there might have been some collusion among
00:11:01.260 members of congress some are refusing to go through magnometers or whatever you call them to to check
00:11:07.560 for weapons they're not wearing masks during the siege i mean it's really bizarre isn't it when you
00:11:13.120 think about how awol so many of these members of congress have gotten but i also think some of them
00:11:19.040 are believing the garbage that they are being fed 24 7 on the internet by their constituents and they
00:11:26.340 bought into this big lie and the question is how are we going to really almost deprogram these people
00:11:33.220 who have signed up for the cult of trump okay so now we have to be deprogrammed we've heard this
00:11:40.420 over and over and over and over again for months by the way you can be upset tomorrow but tomorrow
00:11:48.060 uh today but tomorrow at i think it's noon we unite we all come together oh really and we're going to be
00:11:54.900 great we're going to all be great yeah we're going to be great we're going to be great um huh there is
00:12:01.060 another story today from the washington post that says while holding trump uh to account is necessary it
00:12:08.640 is also insufficient there's a whole infrastructure of incitement that will remain intact even after
00:12:14.680 trump leaves office just as we do with foreign terrorist groups so with domestic terrorists
00:12:20.800 we need to shut down the influencers who radical radicalize people and set them on a path towards
00:12:27.840 violent and sedition terrorist influencers yes uh some argue that trying to silence the voices of
00:12:34.680 insurrection is a hopeless task that hate will always find a way to get through i think that's about love
00:12:39.740 um it's true that there is danger and seditious plots that will now move to encrypted message apps such as
00:12:47.700 telegram where they're harder to track but research firm signal labs found that online misinformation
00:12:53.220 about election fraud fell 73 percent after trump and his key allies were suspended for from social media
00:12:59.620 that's a good start anyone who cherishes our democracy should be grateful to the management
00:13:04.700 of facebook twitter and other social media sites for their newfound sense of social responsibility
00:13:10.120 we should expect at least the same level of responsibility from the broadcast media to its credit fox news
00:13:18.260 acknowledged that joe biden won but reports from media matters quote in the two weeks after the fox news
00:13:26.840 called uh the election for biden fox news cast doubt on the results of the election at least 774 times
00:13:32.960 what losers fox business host lou dobbs uh said trump's opponents in the government were guilty of
00:13:40.320 treason uh blah blah blah blah blah blah 678 times 679 times or 680 times oh can you imagine these people
00:13:48.440 in their lives but while we should expect better behavior from media executives we shouldn't count on it
00:13:54.660 cnn listen to this where i'm a global affairs analyst notes that the united kingdom doesn't have its own
00:14:01.540 version of fox news because it has a government regulator that uh hands out hefty fines to broadcasters
00:14:07.560 that violate minimal standards of impartiality and accuracy what country do we get our independence
00:14:12.980 from again yeah the united states hasn't had that since the fcc stopped enforcing the fairness doctrine
00:14:19.180 in the 80s thank heaven as president biden needs to rein president biden needs to reinvigorate the fcc
00:14:26.780 or else the terrorism we saw on january 6 may only be the beginning rather than the end of the plot
00:14:36.120 against america
00:14:37.860 this is the best of the glenn beck program and we really want to thank you for listening
00:14:46.140 let's go to uh lieutenant general uh general jerry boykin he is the executive vice president of the
00:15:00.500 family research council if you remember that is the operation that actually had a leftist shooter come in
00:15:07.820 and try to kill all of the employees at the family research council he was uh i believe there that day
00:15:13.900 uh we wanted to talk to him a little bit about uh congressman cohen's remarks about the national
00:15:21.600 guard welcome to the program general i'm doing well glenn and it's good to be back with you and uh
00:15:27.960 thanks for having me on you're welcome i am uh i'm really more concerned for my nation than i ever have
00:15:35.920 been uh jerry and i i i worry about uh the extremist on all sides i worry about uh you know a reichstag fire
00:15:47.480 event which won't matter who did it i mean it doesn't matter it's the action that takes place after and
00:15:54.660 the reason why i say that is because we have so many people in the media and in congress and the senate
00:16:01.040 that are saying quite honestly frightening things like uh 50 percent of the country is a domestic
00:16:08.720 terrorist or you can't trust the national guard or the military because only about 20 percent of them
00:16:14.720 probably voted for biden can you comment on these things yeah well i think you said it i think that is
00:16:21.840 an incredibly offensive uh statement and i i don't believe that uh his views uh represent the people of
00:16:30.220 tennessee which is where he's from i i i know too many people uh in the military and out of the
00:16:35.640 military from tennessee and i just don't believe that uh that his views are representative of those
00:16:40.820 people that know from the state of tennessee and i hope that they will hold him accountable for that
00:16:45.140 because this is part of a bigger picture glenn what i just left washington yesterday just to get out
00:16:51.940 of that city because you you can't go anywhere in the city you've got roadblocks at every turn it is a
00:16:58.720 it's an apocalyptic scene and scenario there in washington right now but what you're seeing in
00:17:05.700 my personal view and and this statement by cohen is part of it is what you're seeing is a psychological
00:17:12.480 operation and what they're doing is they're trying to send a very strong message that people who voted
00:17:21.420 for donald trump people who are conservative even people who are on the christian scale uh are the
00:17:29.880 enemy today and this whole thing is as far as i'm concerned is just phony and bringing in so many
00:17:37.840 national guard uh but it it goes back to what cohen said he's trying to portray those people who voted
00:17:46.260 for donald trump and those people who are conservative as the enemies of this nation when
00:17:52.420 the reality is he and all of his cohorts stood by and watched antifa and black lives matters burn cities
00:18:00.460 down hurt people kill people and loot and destroy and there is so much hypocrisy in this glenn but what
00:18:08.800 we're seeing as far as i'm concerned is a psychological operation going on right now against us so jerry
00:18:15.320 let me play the other side here because a i don't have a problem with protecting the inauguration
00:18:24.240 to any extent it's felt necessary um i you know the country is on edge the last thing we need is an
00:18:33.120 incident but i also was for trump sending in the national guard if the the uh the governor's asked for it
00:18:41.720 for the national guard to go in and have a massive presence in cities like uh oregon to send a
00:18:49.140 message we're not screwing around you can't do these things but we're only getting one half of that
00:18:57.320 so first it is there you you say even in today's world there's no reason to have these kinds of
00:19:06.760 numbers of troops in the capital i'm not saying there's no reason i'm saying that in this particular
00:19:14.260 case and the inauguration here given that what you have have already drawn into that city and for us
00:19:22.740 to have you say 75 000 when i left there i understood it was 25 000 but okay it might be 25 i couldn't
00:19:29.820 remember yeah yeah what does it what does it take in terms of the national guard you have federal
00:19:35.920 marshals you have fbi you have secret service you have park police you have capital police you have
00:19:41.600 the metro police you have all of these different entities out there that are shutting down everything
00:19:48.060 within three blocks of the mall for from one end to the other and and then you have these people
00:19:55.000 uh on these uh liberal news programs that are coming on the on the stations and they're talking
00:20:00.840 about how they're concerned about inside attacks from trump supporters and and and this whole thing
00:20:07.080 you're looking at the visible part of it which is all the truth but then you're listening to the dialogue
00:20:12.940 you listen to the talking points about how these disgruntled dissatisfied trump supporters are a major
00:20:19.720 threat and you know what they're not they're not a major threat yes there were trump supporters that
00:20:25.900 went in that capital i certainly understand that there was a there were quite a number of antifa there
00:20:31.720 and they were the rabble rousers but there were people that took it upon themselves and called
00:20:37.600 themselves patriots to go in that capital and they need to be prosecuted even though they were trump
00:20:42.640 supporters and called themselves patriots they need to be prosecuted but i'll tell you what i'm hearing now
00:20:49.380 what i'm seeing now is is messaging that is directed at and against those of us who consider ourselves
00:20:58.540 to actually be patriots those of us who served in the military those of us who supported donald trump
00:21:03.880 and i am uh i'm disgusted with it and and uh we we i think the people who really love this country
00:21:13.200 and want to see what's best for this country we need to get our act together and find our courage and
00:21:18.840 start standing up and what does that mean to you general what that means is we have to speak truth
00:21:24.560 ultimately truth will prevail and we need to keep talking about the dangers as you have done for a
00:21:31.360 long time we need to keep talking about the dangers of marxism of socialism of what it really is we need
00:21:38.240 to talk about what these ultra leftists are bringing into our society if they go unchecked so when
00:21:47.260 i say we have to stand up we have to stand up and speak the truth because again ultimately truth
00:21:53.760 will prevail but if if we start watering down the truth and we don't speak the truth into this society
00:22:00.680 so that people have have have been given both sides uh because we're afraid somebody's going to
00:22:06.740 criticize us then uh we're just giving in to the enemy but it's not just it's not just uh uh criticizing us
00:22:17.520 there's a principal uh at cordova high school in tennessee in shelby county um and he was critical
00:22:24.460 of the riots at the capitol but he objected to the actions taken by social media platforms to silence
00:22:31.140 people um he has he has been forced to take a leave of absence he probably is going to be fired
00:22:40.240 i mean there are people out there that are losing their jobs because they they will speak out speak
00:22:49.000 to those people yeah you've got uh if you if you are a father or grandfather or mother or grandmother
00:22:56.880 you got to think in terms of uh what's really important to you and what's really important to
00:23:02.320 you glenn as you know is uh the future of your children or your grandchildren that's where your
00:23:07.600 focus has to be you reach a point in life where you make that transition and if you don't stand who's
00:23:13.280 going to now i understand there are consequences glenn i got fired from a college i was teaching at
00:23:19.520 when i got out of the army because of my attitude towards letting men go in women's bathrooms and i
00:23:25.680 took a very strong stand against it and they fired me i understand i understand that there are
00:23:32.120 consequences particularly when you're dealing with academe uh but i also know that if you care
00:23:38.600 about the future of your children and your grandchildren you've got to make up your mind
00:23:42.940 now are you going to stand or are you going to stand by and cheer for somebody else to take that stand
00:23:47.840 and speak truth and yeah you're going to get bumped off of social media but there's there are new
00:23:53.280 platforms that are being developed right now but we have got to keep speaking truth because the truth
00:23:58.580 has to ultimately prevail and when all else is lost people can reflect back on what they have heard
00:24:06.280 because the truth is more powerful than the lies that are being told right now when i look um at the
00:24:12.720 color revolutions that um our state department has been involved in it they run pretty much like this
00:24:22.580 is um and i'm afraid with all the behavioral scientists and all the things on the left that
00:24:29.640 that's what we're seeing at the beginning of and if people understand what a color revolution is
00:24:36.100 it it's even more important that you stand up am i way off base and thinking that there are some that
00:24:44.340 are are employing the tactics of a color revolution here no i think that's exactly right i think you're
00:24:52.500 seeing a number of things and certainly the color revolution is is part of this and i will just say
00:24:57.560 this glenn people don't want to hear this but we need to recognize that we are actually in a civil war
00:25:03.460 already now it's not the 1860 kind of civil war but we're in a civil war already and and we're not
00:25:10.520 divided north and south but we're certainly divided every other way that you can possibly be you've got
00:25:15.960 you know you have you have division based on race you have division based on ethnicity you have division
00:25:22.860 based on socioeconomic class you have race to base uh you have division based on political parties or political
00:25:31.700 points of view and uh you've got big tech against uh every conservative and so if this is not a civil
00:25:39.540 war what would classify as a civil war the problem is i think bubba leroy and junior uh are getting fed up
00:25:48.900 and i think that's part of what you saw the day that they breached the capital and i will tell you just
00:25:53.240 so where so everybody understands where i stand i sat down and wept i sat and wept i wept like a child
00:25:59.340 as i saw the breach in that capital there uh because 36 years and i was supporting and defending the
00:26:06.780 constitution of the united states and that just that was broke my heart as i saw them do that
00:26:12.280 and these were so-called patriots well i understand bubba leroy and junior are really frustrated especially
00:26:18.440 down here in the south where i am and i'm in virginia and and they're really frustrated they
00:26:24.480 believe that this was a fraudulent election they believe that uh there'll never be another fair
00:26:29.840 election i mean there's so much and then too many of them jump on these conspiracy theories
00:26:34.440 that are just absolute nonsense that they're so far out in left field that it no sane person would
00:26:42.420 believe them and then they get even more frustrated and and and you saw i think that was bubba leroy and
00:26:50.200 junior there at the capital were the ones that were there for patriotic reasons but but ultimately
00:26:56.020 transitioned over to being the bad guys this is the best of the glenbeck program
00:27:02.880 get sad the host of the u2 show the sad truth blogger for psychology today professor of marketing at
00:27:20.340 john molson school of business at concordia university he holds the concordia university
00:27:25.720 research chair in evolutionary behavioral science uh sciences and darwinian consumption
00:27:31.480 he's the author of the evolutionary basis of consumption plus a whole bunch of academic
00:27:38.540 papers normally i would dismiss because i don't believe anybody in academia but this guy's one of
00:27:44.360 the good guys gad sad hi gad hey glad so good to be with you again thanks for having me thank you
00:27:50.620 all right i've been trying to think if i were if i were in government uh i would look to behavioral
00:28:00.740 behavioral scientists and i know that the left does it with economic behavioral scientists with
00:28:07.000 cass sunstein but i would look to behavioral scientists right now or if i were a behavioral
00:28:13.940 scientist i would be ringing the bell right now because it seems everything the media and the left
00:28:20.200 are doing is causing more and more people to feel disenfranchised attacked name called isolated it's not good gad
00:28:34.880 as a behavioral scientist in your own in your own well in your own way can you please talk to me about this
00:28:44.260 is there anything they've missed and if so don't tell me because they'll do it well i mean you you you set up the
00:28:51.520 problem uh really nicely which is that you know if you look at u.s presidents they have uh advisors when it
00:28:58.480 comes to you know public health they have advisors for the economy they have advisors for all sorts of
00:29:05.560 purpose of and important areas but what ultimately drives all those domains is human behavior right so
00:29:12.800 the health the the lifestyle choices that we make that might result in downstream negative health
00:29:18.900 consequences which a public health person would care about they stem from understanding human behavior
00:29:24.900 so it has always uh you know amazed me that there isn't as part of you know the cabinet of a president
00:29:31.640 or the board of advisors someone who truly specializes in human psychology and behavioral
00:29:37.040 sciences so maybe our current conversation will one day result in such a position actually taking so i'm
00:29:44.020 i'm not sure i like that though because that used to be called propaganda uh i mean the early guys
00:29:50.400 you know bernays that he was in his own way a behavioral scientist and watch behavior and knew how to
00:29:58.100 evoke the right emotions to do all kinds of things some of it good some of it bad so i don't like the
00:30:04.040 idea i know you're canadian but in america the conservative doesn't like the idea of growing the
00:30:08.720 government even bigger in an office of what would have been called propaganda is a little frightening
00:30:13.800 but i i do want them to blow the whistle on on warnings i mean are you paying attention to what's
00:30:22.520 really happening here in america gad i am although the past two weeks i've taken a social
00:30:27.960 media hiatus and let me tell you my cortisol levels have gone way down and my blood pressure
00:30:34.300 has improved i i will tell you i i went to the uh i went to the doctor because i was having uh problems
00:30:41.700 and uh the doctor said right now stop stop right now he's like your blood pressure is through the roof
00:30:49.260 uh and uh you you gotta stop looking at all this stuff and i'm like yeah kind of a problem
00:30:54.980 but i did stop over the weekend and i i felt great felt great exactly see one of the things
00:31:01.940 that i've done which again speaks to the importance of understanding human behavior
00:31:06.360 is i have stopped ever reading anything once i post something now this is something that we all
00:31:13.300 intuitively know because the social media ends up being a cesspool of negativity in the past just
00:31:19.980 because we're all humans we want to see what people think about the ideas that we've espoused
00:31:24.560 i might post something and then a couple hours later you go check what the comments are well now it's been
00:31:30.140 two weeks i never do that oh first of all i'm only posting positive things right so that i don't get
00:31:36.080 mired in all the negativity and i think my blood pressure has dropped maybe 10 points so there's the power
00:31:43.660 of understanding human behavior okay so now i i can't do that every day i have to pay attention i'm
00:31:50.100 going to move your blood pressure up uh just a bit you have uh trending today hashtag trump's new army
00:31:58.060 let me just read this to you uh on january 20th donald trump will no longer be the commander-in-chief
00:32:03.500 he will lose control of the u.s armed forces and take control of a new army we know who they are
00:32:09.200 they're vile they are our teachers our neighbors our police officers and they are everywhere expose
00:32:17.220 their treason this this is this is being allowed to be seen uh when they're talking about you know
00:32:25.860 uh calls for violence etc etc i i mean i don't i don't know what that is if it's not uh inciting
00:32:34.640 violence uh this is this is from a new york times reporter former intelligence official on pbs news
00:32:41.160 hour tonight saying the u.s should think about a 9-11 commission for domestic extremism and consider
00:32:47.640 applying some of the lessons from the fight against al-qaeda there are several stories including those
00:32:54.400 from members of congress now that are saying we we need in fact the biden administration said today
00:33:01.580 during one of the uh confirmation hearings of the department of homeland security chief
00:33:06.480 that his main focus is going to be on domestic terrorism which is now i guess us it is bewildering
00:33:17.920 isn't it i mean i don't know if you saw the uh the uh interview with the representative i don't
00:33:23.760 remember his name who said basically that you can't really trust all the national guards that are there
00:33:29.420 yeah yeah yeah because ultimately many of the white males would have voted for trump and to that
00:33:36.920 extent how could we truly so i mean imagine how emboldened he must be in the current zeitgeist
00:33:43.460 that he actually says this openly and proudly right rather than it being something on martin luther
00:33:50.680 king's day yesterday something that he should have as a private thought and feel ashamed by it
00:33:56.340 instead he boldly espouses this incredibly racist position openly it's very scary as someone who
00:34:05.060 comes from the middle east who sees what happens when uh societies are not built around freedom of
00:34:10.820 speech and freedom of thought i am truly bewildered by what's happening at a breathtakingly rapid rate
00:34:16.920 will you adopt me and our family in case we have to get across the border get don't answer now just
00:34:21.420 think about it okay um uh gad so as a behavioral scientist i mean i i i would love to have i would
00:34:32.720 love to have somebody who is talking to me about the you know the meanings of words and how to phrase
00:34:39.280 things because i think we are at a a really dangerous dangerous point and i am trying to express what
00:34:49.100 martin luther king did and that is violence begets violence uh hate begets hate only love can conquer
00:34:57.340 darkness and hate uh and nobody really wants to hear that now i shouldn't say that a lot of people
00:35:04.900 don't want to hear this because they're like we are under attack as as people as americans we're now
00:35:11.760 under attack and uh they don't know what to do so it's yeah it's frightening i'll give you an example
00:35:20.800 of that again as a canadian who technically speaking has you know no no dog in the fight and so on
00:35:27.140 about a month ago i posted some uh a tweet that was very critical of nancy pelosi again i'm doing this i
00:35:35.980 i thought i live in a free world i'm a canadian i'm allowed to espouse my positions i'm a well-known
00:35:41.560 professor so a colleague of mine who is a personal friend of mine until that tweet wrote a very nasty
00:35:50.200 rebuttal and reported me to all of our you know common evolutionary behavioral scientist colleagues
00:35:57.420 because i no longer was a scientist given that i was espousing such hateful rhetoric against
00:36:05.880 nancy pelosi so i didn't know that nancy pelosi was a prophet that could not be criticized and that
00:36:13.120 it was blasphemous for me to do so and if i dared criticize nancy pelosi i no longer was part of the
00:36:21.220 good standing members of the science club but he felt completely emboldened and justified to do that
00:36:27.280 as a matter of fact when i called him on his reprehensible behavior of trying to cancel me and
00:36:33.660 report me to our common colleagues he said that he was altruistically punishing me right so his
00:36:41.760 cancel culture instinct was actually a form of loving altruism that's how grotesque the world has become
00:36:50.260 wow so listening to the messages that are going on being a behavioral scientist um and seeing um
00:37:01.520 social media shutting people down uh silencing speech uh calling people enemies of the state and
00:37:10.760 terrorists all of these things that are happening poke poke poke poke poke and the and the media not
00:37:18.800 being balanced i was against what happened in the cap capitol i know you were too i was really dead set
00:37:25.280 against that uh and called for it to stop immediately but i also did that with black lives matter it's the
00:37:33.120 hypocrisy that i think is driving people nuts and when they feel like nobody's doing anything
00:37:39.980 what what what do you foresee coming what i mean isn't this a recipe for absolute disaster
00:37:47.000 exactly right i've long said glenn that the reason why i get engaged in in the battle of ideas is because
00:37:54.700 i think that we're still within a window where these debates can be adjudicated peacefully but i've
00:38:03.180 repeatedly warned that if the peaceful attempts to have ideas pitted against one another doesn't
00:38:11.780 manifest itself in other words if we lose the ability to resolve our differences peacefully through
00:38:17.240 dialogue through through through through debate then in 10 20 50 100 years we will have a repeat
00:38:24.360 of the society from which i escaped for for the viewers who don't know my family and i escaped the
00:38:30.380 lebanese civil war and i guarantee you that the good people who are every day insulted as hicks and rednecks
00:38:38.720 and idiots and nazis are not going to go away quietly so either we resolve it today peacefully or we will
00:38:46.460 resolve it tomorrow violently i continue to pray that it will be the former
00:38:51.040 you