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00:00:34.220 Is this real or is this a psyop

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00:00:38.700 Also, some really cool, cool news

00:00:41.740 from a neuroscientist who joins me on the show.

00:00:44.700 He tried an experiment putting a payphone in San Francisco

00:00:47.920 and one in Abilene, Texas.

00:00:49.880 The one in Abilene, Texas, you pick it up and it says,

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00:01:02.780 Also, Representative Anna Paulina Luna on Epstein.

00:01:06.960 What is really going on?

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00:03:32.940 The Best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:03:36.700 Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program.

00:03:38.620 You know, as I'm watching everything that's unfolding

00:03:40.580 with the Epstein files,

00:03:41.740 I just don't understand why people

00:03:43.520 are being investigated

00:03:45.220 and actually seemingly going to jail

00:03:47.520 for the first time in 400 years,

00:03:51.060 a royal has been arrested

00:03:52.600 in Prince Andrew.

00:03:54.240 He's not even, he's Andrew now.

00:03:57.540 And he is going to jail,

00:04:00.560 but not for anything that he might have done

00:04:02.980 with Epstein except trade secrets.

00:04:05.540 That's the thing that got him into trouble

00:04:07.280 was he was passing on English secrets

00:04:11.360 to Epstein,

00:04:12.400 which is a whole nother ball game entirely.

00:04:14.940 But I don't understand how we can say

00:04:18.340 that he was trafficking,

00:04:19.900 you know, women underage.

00:04:23.240 And yet there's no Johns going to jail.

00:04:25.420 There's no, we don't have any,

00:04:27.140 who is he trafficking him to?

00:04:28.820 Why don't we have any of this information?

00:04:31.860 There was a tweet that was sent out

00:04:33.600 by Representative Anna Paulina Luna.

00:04:35.800 And she said,

00:04:36.760 Susan Hamlin sent this email.

00:04:39.900 She took a plea deal

00:04:40.820 and it was given victim status

00:04:42.180 under previous DOJ.

00:04:43.360 DOJ should look into charges.

00:04:45.640 Possible human rights violations

00:04:47.440 were committed.

00:04:48.660 I say that based on other files

00:04:51.260 with her name on it,

00:04:52.480 these women don't get to hide

00:04:53.600 behind redactions.

00:04:54.800 There's so many victims,

00:04:56.220 none of which did what this woman did.

00:04:58.240 This needs to be reopened.

00:05:00.280 And she gives an email.

00:05:02.000 It just says,

00:05:02.520 thank you for a fun night.

00:05:03.680 Your littlest girl was a little naughty.

00:05:05.980 And she wrote it to Jeffrey Epstein.

00:05:07.840 Now, Anna is with us now

00:05:12.200 to explain what you might know

00:05:15.680 or why you would say that.

00:05:16.800 Because she, somebody,

00:05:18.280 the son actually made charges against her

00:05:22.580 and they had to apologize.

00:05:25.120 And I think they paid a pretty big price for it

00:05:27.840 because they libeled her.

00:05:30.680 Or so she apparently proved in court.

00:05:34.140 What do you know, Anna?

00:05:36.180 Who is this woman?

00:05:38.440 I don't want to get into anything

00:05:39.680 that's libel,

00:05:40.600 but what do you know?

00:05:42.460 Why would you say this?

00:05:44.460 I know that many,

00:05:45.840 and this is based on

00:05:46.860 what I've gone through

00:05:48.580 in some of the files.

00:05:49.580 I've spent about maybe six,

00:05:51.780 seven hours with the files directly

00:05:53.260 and plan on going back in to see more.

00:05:56.280 But from what I've gathered

00:05:57.740 and from what I've reviewed

00:05:59.100 after looking at an FBI co-conspirator document,

00:06:02.660 she was actually allegedly named

00:06:06.060 as a co-conspirator by the FBI.

00:06:08.540 Ultimately, that was during Epstein's second run-in

00:06:13.260 with law enforcement in New York.

00:06:15.280 And it wasn't just her.

00:06:16.700 It was a list of many other women as well,

00:06:19.840 one of which was Ghislaine Maxwell.

00:06:21.360 Yet Ghislaine Maxwell is the only one sitting in prison.

00:06:23.540 And I think when we're talking about

00:06:26.000 the crimes that were committed by Jeffrey Epstein,

00:06:28.140 well, he didn't just do it alone.

00:06:29.720 And plenty of the victims that were trafficked

00:06:32.940 didn't turn around and do some of the other things

00:06:35.900 that some of these women

00:06:36.800 who were listed as co-conspirators did.

00:06:39.220 And so I think that it's very interesting

00:06:40.940 because you're seeing a lot of these emails come out.

00:06:44.020 A lot of these emails specifically

00:06:45.620 are some of the more egregious ones,

00:06:47.720 whether it was the implications

00:06:50.140 of one that was written.

00:06:51.560 And also too, there's a number of other emails

00:06:53.240 where this woman continues to pop up.

00:06:56.080 There's also one where it's mocking a little girl

00:06:59.400 talking about how she's protected by Jesus

00:07:02.360 that was also sent by a woman

00:07:03.900 who is listed as a potential co-conspirator.

00:07:07.040 And then a number of other emails

00:07:08.840 that get into weird code talk.

00:07:10.660 I mean, you name it, it's there.

00:07:12.220 But from what I've been observing,

00:07:15.000 it appears that these women,

00:07:16.500 whether or not they were trying

00:07:18.540 to maybe replace Glenn Maxwell,

00:07:20.460 whatever it might've been,

00:07:21.700 they did engage in what I would say

00:07:24.840 is trafficking of 10, 11-year-olds,

00:07:28.680 minors for sure.

00:07:30.140 And it's not okay

00:07:31.540 because what ends up happening is,

00:07:33.340 you know, the American people want names,

00:07:35.860 they want justice.

00:07:36.480 To be clear, these charges

00:07:38.900 really did start under Bush administration 1.0.

00:07:42.940 And it does seem that there was a lapse

00:07:45.560 of justice for the victims

00:07:48.720 that were not engaged in these horrible acts

00:07:51.220 against other young women.

00:07:54.080 But also too, in addition that you have this question of,

00:07:56.920 okay, well, what was, what were they,

00:07:59.340 why were they given these plea deals

00:08:00.840 if they're listed in an FBI document as co-conspirators?

00:08:04.340 And I understand that some of these charges

00:08:06.360 might be now outside of the statute of limitation,

00:08:08.720 but I do think that the DOJ

00:08:10.120 should re-examine these plea deals

00:08:11.640 because although it wasn't

00:08:12.900 this current administration's DOJ that did this,

00:08:16.040 it definitely is now something

00:08:18.000 that I think the American people feel

00:08:19.720 that there needs to be justice for.

00:08:22.240 And then obviously too,

00:08:23.340 you have this aspect of,

00:08:24.740 you know, I see a lot of people saying,

00:08:26.460 okay, well, or they're assuming

00:08:27.680 that some of these emails were written by men.

00:08:29.500 But the fact is, is that from what I have seen,

00:08:32.120 a lot of them are written by women.

00:08:34.580 And it's just, it's crazy to think that that would,

00:08:37.760 yeah.

00:08:38.580 It's shocking how many women.

00:08:41.800 Mm-hmm.

00:08:43.600 Yeah.

00:08:44.400 It's, you know, I think people historically maybe think,

00:08:47.520 and it's just in our nature to think

00:08:49.040 that women might not commit, you know, evil acts.

00:08:52.700 But as you're seeing with this specifically,

00:08:55.220 one email sticks out to me, you know, point blank

00:08:57.820 in that I read they were basically trying to locate

00:09:01.240 a young girl's birth certificate in Russia

00:09:05.560 and they were bringing her to the United States,

00:09:08.280 I assume, on email traffic.

00:09:09.940 And in the same email thread,

00:09:11.240 it also talks about a Pornhub introduction.

00:09:13.880 And so the fact is, is that Jeffrey Epstein

00:09:16.320 did have these girls, you know,

00:09:18.200 from what I've gathered,

00:09:19.680 his preference was younger, very young girls.

00:09:23.280 But, you know, what he was doing is

00:09:26.020 he was definitely bringing the ones

00:09:27.560 that looked legal

00:09:29.460 and likely weren't around people

00:09:31.920 who were in positions of influence

00:09:34.280 and or politicians, et cetera.

00:09:36.980 I think, you know, in Prince Andrew's case,

00:09:39.540 I think that he has a lot of explaining to do.

00:09:42.460 And I do think also some people

00:09:44.760 were aware of what he was doing,

00:09:46.420 but then I also think that there were some people

00:09:48.100 that he kind of brought into his orbit

00:09:50.100 potentially with the intention of compromising them

00:09:54.300 and then exploiting that compromise material.

00:09:57.980 I mean, I saw the,

00:09:59.260 I saw a video of Donald Trump in 2015

00:10:02.120 saying, you want to know who,

00:10:04.380 you know, Prince Andrew is,

00:10:06.780 we'll look up his relationship with Epstein.

00:10:08.880 I mean, that's 2015.

00:10:10.300 Oh, yeah.

00:10:10.660 And he said at the time,

00:10:11.820 everybody knows it,

00:10:13.680 which, you know, I think is true.

00:10:15.260 I think all of these people

00:10:16.240 that run in these circles,

00:10:17.300 they knew, they knew.

00:10:19.680 So why are we not,

00:10:21.680 what happened to the names?

00:10:24.780 Why is this not going anywhere?

00:10:26.520 Why are we not seeing a bunch of people

00:10:28.820 being charged with anything?

00:10:32.700 Well, it's multifaceted, right?

00:10:34.960 So when we had our initial hearing

00:10:36.740 with some of these victims and the attorneys,

00:10:38.760 and to be clear,

00:10:40.380 not all of these victims engaged

00:10:42.440 in co-conspirator behavior,

00:10:44.400 nor did all of these victims

00:10:46.600 engage in trafficking younger girls, okay?

00:10:49.160 This was a select group of women

00:10:51.320 that even after,

00:10:53.040 let's say they were initially

00:10:54.140 one of Epstein's victims.

00:10:55.660 Now, when they became adults,

00:10:57.340 they then started getting paid.

00:10:59.080 They liked the lifestyle.

00:11:00.680 There are some emails talking about,

00:11:02.060 you know, 10 and 11 year olds.

00:11:04.100 If I go through all this stuff,

00:11:05.740 it would probably make you guys sick,

00:11:07.060 even just hearing this radio interview.

00:11:08.700 But the point is,

00:11:09.360 is that, you know,

00:11:10.600 when you're looking at,

00:11:12.200 well, where are the names, right?

00:11:13.980 Like we were promised by the victims

00:11:15.400 that they would give us a list of names

00:11:17.080 to be able to investigate.

00:11:20.360 And at the same time,

00:11:21.360 there's this massive lawsuit with Deutsche Bank.

00:11:23.760 And so what the attorney said to us

00:11:26.220 when we were actually in the meeting

00:11:28.980 with the speaker,

00:11:30.100 members of oversight,

00:11:31.400 the victims and the attorney,

00:11:32.740 is that from what I'd gathered,

00:11:35.000 they were getting phone calls from people

00:11:36.540 that were potentially exposed

00:11:38.440 and are looking to settle.

00:11:40.280 And when you settle,

00:11:41.940 you know, a lawsuit,

00:11:43.060 and I'm not saying that these victims

00:11:44.800 don't have right to financial damages

00:11:46.840 because of the fact that,

00:11:48.360 you know, they were exploited.

00:11:49.920 But then from what I gather,

00:11:51.660 there's also an NDA that goes with that.

00:11:54.020 So I don't necessarily know

00:11:55.520 that we will ever get the names

00:11:56.880 from the true victims that were trafficked.

00:11:59.100 But that's why I say

00:12:00.020 I have a deep invested interest

00:12:02.040 in at least urging and advising the DOJ

00:12:05.380 to look at these plea deals

00:12:07.000 because I do believe the women

00:12:08.360 that were given some of these plea deals

00:12:09.860 may have committed other acts.

00:12:11.840 Again, I will reference that email

00:12:13.280 where they were trafficking

00:12:14.200 a young girl in from Russia.

00:12:17.520 And then there's that Pornhub introduction

00:12:19.640 kind of correspondence.

00:12:22.240 But for that to be said,

00:12:24.280 you know, there's other things

00:12:25.300 that they can hit them with,

00:12:26.560 human rights violations, et cetera,

00:12:28.360 that don't operate

00:12:29.620 with the same statutes of limitations.

00:12:32.360 And so that's kind of

00:12:34.220 where we're at right now.

00:12:35.120 I think that that's the only way

00:12:36.240 that you're really going to be able

00:12:37.500 to figure out, okay, well,

00:12:39.500 who knew what?

00:12:40.460 Who is doing what?

00:12:41.120 And I would say that the co-conspirators

00:12:42.640 should not have been let off

00:12:44.080 and they should have not have

00:12:45.180 had their sentences dropped.

00:12:47.640 And I find it deeply disturbing

00:12:49.420 that of the entire list

00:12:50.740 of co-conspirators

00:12:51.520 that we all had access to

00:12:52.520 and we all saw,

00:12:54.120 they're all women.

00:12:55.180 But guess what?

00:12:55.860 The only one sitting in jail

00:12:56.800 is Galeen Maxwell.

00:12:58.340 I know.

00:13:00.120 I've got so many things

00:13:01.040 to talk to you

00:13:01.540 and only about three

00:13:02.200 or four minutes left.

00:13:03.720 I would love to have you back

00:13:05.200 and talk about the UFOs

00:13:06.580 that we now have

00:13:07.420 more information on,

00:13:08.600 which is,

00:13:08.980 it's just getting bizarre.

00:13:10.680 But we found out

00:13:12.460 the Supreme Court today

00:13:13.960 said that most

00:13:15.780 of the Trump tariffs

00:13:16.800 are,

00:13:17.840 they're overturning them

00:13:19.760 and he can't do that.

00:13:21.240 What are your thoughts on that?

00:13:23.920 I think Trump's reciprocal tariffs

00:13:26.040 have been the reason

00:13:26.860 why we've had a surplus.

00:13:28.060 And you guys remember

00:13:29.180 during the first shutdown

00:13:30.220 this year,

00:13:30.820 we were able,

00:13:32.860 or President Trump

00:13:33.520 was able to offset

00:13:34.660 Democrats cutting off funding

00:13:36.240 for the WIC program

00:13:37.640 known as Women,

00:13:38.280 Infant, and Children

00:13:39.000 given to lower income

00:13:40.480 American citizens

00:13:41.660 by using the balance

00:13:44.120 and the surplus

00:13:45.640 that he had

00:13:46.140 from the reciprocal tariffs

00:13:47.740 and then also the benefits

00:13:48.900 for military,

00:13:49.760 the 1776 check.

00:13:51.300 But it's really,

00:13:52.320 really stupid

00:13:53.440 economics for people

00:13:55.980 to think that

00:13:56.720 that wasn't helping

00:13:57.480 the American people

00:13:58.260 because it gave us

00:13:59.020 a massive negotiating tool,

00:14:00.580 especially with dropping

00:14:01.980 the cost of product.

00:14:02.960 You're actually seeing it

00:14:03.800 now impact the supermarkets

00:14:06.160 across the country.

00:14:07.560 And so I think,

00:14:08.360 you know,

00:14:08.760 some of my colleagues

00:14:10.020 are controlled

00:14:10.680 by their donors

00:14:11.440 and some of the donors

00:14:12.540 even were trying to call me

00:14:13.700 getting me to work

00:14:14.840 against the president

00:14:15.420 and I would not do it.

00:14:16.440 I said,

00:14:16.800 you don't understand

00:14:17.740 that this is actually

00:14:18.500 also part of the trade negotiations

00:14:20.000 and it's going to work out

00:14:21.060 and it did.

00:14:22.200 And so you're going to see

00:14:23.380 why people elected Trump

00:14:24.860 is they didn't want

00:14:25.500 any more of the D.C. policy

00:14:26.780 as normal.

00:14:27.720 And unfortunately,

00:14:28.760 in this instance,

00:14:29.420 they got it.

00:14:31.180 I had lots of people

00:14:32.380 call me and say,

00:14:33.180 can you talk to the president?

00:14:34.360 This is, you know,

00:14:35.360 and I'm like,

00:14:35.800 no, that's not my job.

00:14:37.040 I'm not going to talk

00:14:37.620 to the president about it.

00:14:38.600 That's your job.

00:14:39.460 You take care of that.

00:14:40.300 And I happen to believe

00:14:43.280 he was working on something

00:14:44.620 far bigger than anybody else

00:14:46.320 could even understand.

00:14:47.580 Yeah, and these people

00:14:48.420 are worried about,

00:14:49.440 you know,

00:14:49.920 how it's affecting

00:14:51.100 their business

00:14:51.660 in the short term,

00:14:52.520 not looking at the long term,

00:14:53.640 how much it was actually

00:14:54.720 going to impact them

00:14:55.500 for the better.

00:14:56.680 And unfortunately,

00:14:57.620 a lot of people

00:14:58.420 are very coupled

00:14:59.240 with China

00:14:59.920 and they will only want

00:15:01.560 to do their trade

00:15:02.240 with China

00:15:02.660 and that's part

00:15:03.380 of the problem as well.

00:15:04.400 And we can probably

00:15:05.060 do a whole nother

00:15:05.760 10 segments on China alone.

00:15:08.560 But the whole issue

00:15:09.760 that we have now

00:15:10.520 is that we have

00:15:11.080 a slim majority

00:15:11.760 and a lot of these

00:15:12.680 frontline members

00:15:13.400 are thinking that

00:15:14.680 this will hit them

00:15:15.360 in the midterms.

00:15:16.760 But as you're seeing,

00:15:17.960 it's actually benefiting

00:15:18.980 our country.

00:15:20.360 And, you know,

00:15:21.140 you're going to see this thing

00:15:21.880 with the favorite nation's pricing,

00:15:23.680 especially there is a group

00:15:25.040 of conservative organizations,

00:15:26.480 which I was surprised at

00:15:27.340 saying that President Trump

00:15:28.240 was basically embracing

00:15:29.220 socialist policies

00:15:30.100 or something along those lines.

00:15:31.480 And that's completely not true

00:15:32.840 and such a terrible perspective

00:15:34.540 to take

00:15:34.960 because, you know,

00:15:35.560 these same groups

00:15:36.220 and same politicians

00:15:37.240 are also owned

00:15:38.080 by pharmaceutical.

00:15:39.420 And so, yeah,

00:15:40.200 we have an uphill battle,

00:15:41.180 but, like,

00:15:41.740 you have to get in the fight

00:15:42.740 and you can't just,

00:15:43.760 you know,

00:15:44.080 it's one step back,

00:15:45.680 but we'll take

00:15:46.100 two steps forward, so.

00:15:47.760 Okay, I've got 90 seconds left.

00:15:49.660 Tell me, what,

00:15:50.480 are we going to war?

00:15:53.500 I have not heard murmur of that.

00:15:55.920 I also know, though,

00:15:57.760 that President Trump

00:15:58.960 wants there to be

00:16:00.100 a negotiation

00:16:00.940 with the government of Iran.

00:16:03.360 And so,

00:16:04.100 I think that they should listen

00:16:05.800 and I think that they take

00:16:07.260 President Trump very seriously,

00:16:08.780 so I am hoping

00:16:09.480 that we do not,

00:16:10.920 but also I'm not a part

00:16:12.280 of those discussions

00:16:14.060 in the situation room,

00:16:15.140 so I don't want to speculate,

00:16:16.720 but I'm hoping that we don't.

00:16:18.880 I'm thinking that we don't.

00:16:19.760 Does he believe,

00:16:20.880 so am I.

00:16:21.360 Do you believe he needs

00:16:23.020 an act of war from Congress

00:16:24.240 for something like this?

00:16:25.180 You know,

00:16:28.140 Iran,

00:16:28.940 on a few occasions,

00:16:31.040 threatened to assassinate

00:16:33.020 the president,

00:16:34.400 and to my understanding,

00:16:36.840 there were some interesting things

00:16:38.300 that may have happened

00:16:39.260 leading up to his election,

00:16:41.100 et cetera.

00:16:42.080 Yeah.

00:16:42.560 I think that in itself

00:16:44.060 gives him

00:16:45.500 unilateral authority.

00:16:47.260 However,

00:16:48.240 I am always going to

00:16:50.080 err on the side of caution,

00:16:51.240 especially when it comes

00:16:52.140 to foreign conflict,

00:16:53.820 and caution against intervention

00:16:55.920 wherever I can.

00:16:58.060 However,

00:16:58.460 in this instance,

00:16:59.240 I do not know

00:16:59.960 that we will get to that point

00:17:01.060 because,

00:17:01.760 again,

00:17:02.140 negotiating,

00:17:03.020 negotiating tactics.

00:17:05.360 Yeah.

00:17:06.320 Anna Paulina Luna,

00:17:07.740 always good to talk to you.

00:17:08.620 Thank you,

00:17:08.940 Congresswoman.

00:17:09.440 Appreciate it.

00:17:10.440 Representing the great state

00:17:11.420 of Florida.

00:17:13.180 You bet.

00:17:13.440 Let me tell you

00:17:15.840 how pain usually works.

00:17:17.240 It doesn't arrive

00:17:18.000 with,

00:17:18.460 you know,

00:17:18.800 any kind of

00:17:19.540 dramatic entrance.

00:17:21.460 It doesn't knock you,

00:17:22.580 you know,

00:17:23.100 over all at once.

00:17:23.920 It starts small.

00:17:24.920 You get a little stiffness

00:17:26.060 in the morning,

00:17:26.920 you know,

00:17:27.420 tightness in your back

00:17:28.260 after sitting too long,

00:17:29.260 knee that complains

00:17:30.000 more than it used to,

00:17:30.820 and before you know it,

00:17:31.620 you've adjusted your life

00:17:32.700 around all of those things.

00:17:33.780 You park closer,

00:17:34.540 you take the stairs

00:17:35.400 more carefully,

00:17:36.520 you stop doing certain things,

00:17:38.140 you know,

00:17:38.460 not because you want to,

00:17:39.740 but because it's just

00:17:40.440 not worth the aching afterwards.

00:17:41.900 That's not living

00:17:42.580 your life fully.

00:17:44.200 Relief Factor

00:17:44.720 was developed by doctors

00:17:45.780 to support your body's

00:17:47.060 natural response

00:17:48.060 to inflammation,

00:17:48.820 which means

00:17:49.400 you can change your life

00:17:51.900 by getting to the root

00:17:53.000 of that daily discomfort.

00:17:54.740 Inflammation

00:17:55.180 is about dressing the problems

00:17:57.060 at the source,

00:17:58.820 not masking them.

00:18:00.020 Over a million people

00:18:01.000 have tried Relief Factor.

00:18:02.000 Two-thirds of them

00:18:02.700 have gone on

00:18:03.220 to take it more

00:18:03.960 month after month.

00:18:04.780 I'm one of them,

00:18:05.640 so you don't have to

00:18:06.560 rearrange your schedule

00:18:07.980 or your life around pain.

00:18:10.240 You know,

00:18:10.500 if you're dealing

00:18:10.980 with daily pain,

00:18:11.760 would you just try this?

00:18:12.700 Launch your three-week

00:18:13.600 quick start right now.

00:18:14.620 Just try it for three weeks.

00:18:15.640 If it's not working

00:18:16.180 for you in three weeks,

00:18:16.920 it's not going to need

00:18:17.500 to stop taking it.

00:18:18.680 But again,

00:18:19.060 like I said,

00:18:19.480 three-quarters of the people

00:18:20.320 go on to take it

00:18:20.980 month after month.

00:18:22.080 Do it now.

00:18:23.540 Take the three-week

00:18:24.200 quick start.

00:18:24.600 Let me just take you

00:18:37.620 to the beginning

00:18:38.560 of the week.

00:18:39.980 The beginning of the week,

00:18:41.980 Barack Obama

00:18:42.780 is on a podcast

00:18:44.760 and he's asked,

00:18:47.480 are aliens real?

00:18:49.320 And he says,

00:18:50.420 they're real,

00:18:51.400 but I haven't seen them

00:18:53.100 and they're not being kept

00:18:54.320 in, what is it,

00:18:55.260 Area 51.

00:18:56.940 Okay.

00:18:58.560 Everybody goes crazy.

00:19:00.200 What is Obama doing?

00:19:01.980 Blah, blah, blah.

00:19:02.780 Then Laura Trump,

00:19:04.820 the president's daughter,

00:19:06.480 comes out

00:19:06.940 and she says,

00:19:08.600 what was it exactly?

00:19:10.220 My dad has a speech

00:19:11.700 ready to go, right?

00:19:13.860 To talk about aliens.

00:19:16.020 You're like,

00:19:16.420 wait,

00:19:17.100 what,

00:19:17.580 what,

00:19:18.060 what is,

00:19:18.780 what is happening here?

00:19:20.880 Then,

00:19:21.540 after that,

00:19:23.260 you have

00:19:24.000 the president

00:19:24.960 coming out

00:19:25.740 yesterday

00:19:26.300 and he says

00:19:27.800 he's going to direct

00:19:28.580 Hegseth

00:19:29.020 to release

00:19:29.600 all government

00:19:30.500 UFO files.

00:19:32.480 Okay.

00:19:33.120 So let's listen to that.

00:19:34.380 Can we listen to that?

00:19:35.020 I think it's cut seven.

00:19:36.840 Something that got

00:19:37.440 a lot of attention

00:19:38.060 this week,

00:19:38.740 Barack Obama said,

00:19:40.520 that aliens

00:19:41.380 are real.

00:19:43.040 Have you seen

00:19:43.720 any evidence

00:19:44.420 of non-human

00:19:45.720 visitors to Earth?

00:19:47.160 Well,

00:19:47.280 he gave classified

00:19:48.040 information.

00:19:48.860 He's not supposed

00:19:49.440 to be doing that.

00:19:50.880 So aliens are real?

00:19:51.960 Well,

00:19:52.140 I don't know

00:19:52.440 if they're real or not.

00:19:53.200 I can tell you

00:19:53.680 he gave classified

00:19:54.520 information.

00:19:55.360 He's not supposed

00:19:56.000 to be doing that.

00:19:56.920 He made a big mistake.

00:19:59.440 He took it out

00:19:59.940 of classified information.

00:20:01.740 No,

00:20:02.000 I don't have an opinion

00:20:03.280 on it.

00:20:03.680 I never talk about it.

00:20:05.160 A lot of people do.

00:20:06.500 A lot of people believe it.

00:20:08.820 Do you believe it,

00:20:09.660 Peter?

00:20:10.180 Well,

00:20:10.680 the president

00:20:11.240 can declassify

00:20:12.260 anything that he wants to.

00:20:13.440 So if you want

00:20:13.940 to make an announcement.

00:20:14.980 I may get him

00:20:15.540 out of trouble

00:20:15.980 by declassifying.

00:20:17.020 We know illegal aliens,

00:20:18.160 really.

00:20:18.680 Yeah,

00:20:19.040 illegal.

00:20:19.720 Only illegals.

00:20:21.800 Wait,

00:20:22.280 wait,

00:20:22.620 wait,

00:20:22.960 wait,

00:20:23.320 wait.

00:20:23.500 This is crazy.

00:20:25.780 You wouldn't be

00:20:27.220 breaking

00:20:27.880 the classified

00:20:29.400 information rule

00:20:30.640 if you were saying

00:20:32.140 they didn't exist

00:20:33.320 and they didn't exist.

00:20:34.280 That's not classified

00:20:35.080 information.

00:20:35.440 Why would you

00:20:36.140 classify

00:20:36.760 that they didn't

00:20:38.120 exist?

00:20:39.220 Okay.

00:20:40.820 So he

00:20:42.720 violated classified

00:20:44.960 information.

00:20:46.140 I don't know

00:20:46.780 what that means.

00:20:47.580 And so then he says,

00:20:48.420 yeah,

00:20:49.120 I just might release

00:20:50.200 all of the government

00:20:50.920 files.

00:20:51.220 Now he says he might

00:20:52.040 do a lot of things

00:20:52.980 on things like this

00:20:54.760 and,

00:20:55.600 you know,

00:20:55.760 who knows,

00:20:56.560 but let me just

00:20:59.180 take you back

00:20:59.880 a couple of weeks,

00:21:00.820 shall I?

00:21:02.220 There was a story

00:21:03.280 in the New York

00:21:03.980 Post and I don't

00:21:05.100 even know,

00:21:05.680 it was in our

00:21:06.320 show prep and I

00:21:07.080 don't even know

00:21:07.600 if we got to it.

00:21:09.480 But I thought it

00:21:10.820 was important enough

00:21:11.680 to include it in

00:21:12.500 our show prep at

00:21:13.240 the time so you

00:21:14.100 could read it.

00:21:15.620 The bank,

00:21:16.420 this is,

00:21:16.900 this came out

00:21:17.980 January 24th.

00:21:21.040 The Bank of

00:21:21.860 England has been

00:21:23.060 advised to create

00:21:24.160 a plan for the

00:21:25.440 inevitable

00:21:26.060 financial chaos

00:21:28.380 that will result

00:21:29.980 if and when

00:21:31.080 world governments

00:21:32.220 disclose the

00:21:33.380 existence of

00:21:34.500 aliens.

00:21:36.020 Former senior

00:21:37.040 financial security

00:21:38.540 analyst Helen

00:21:39.760 McCraw sent a

00:21:41.240 letter to the

00:21:41.760 UK Central Bank

00:21:42.960 urging the

00:21:43.620 institution to

00:21:44.460 prepare for the

00:21:45.300 economic impact

00:21:46.620 of someone

00:21:49.240 disclosing the

00:21:50.280 existence of

00:21:51.040 aliens.

00:21:51.920 If such a

00:21:52.860 disclosure should

00:21:53.660 come from the

00:21:54.240 White House,

00:21:54.900 Cambridge educated

00:21:55.660 McCraw,

00:21:56.620 projected in her

00:21:57.620 letter,

00:21:58.160 the revelation

00:21:58.680 will send shock

00:21:59.640 waves to

00:21:59.960 financial markets

00:22:01.180 and the banking

00:22:01.960 system and

00:22:03.080 inspire general

00:22:04.200 unrest among

00:22:05.580 earthlings.

00:22:08.080 I don't think,

00:22:09.640 I mean,

00:22:10.460 you're going to

00:22:11.880 go march out in

00:22:12.620 the streets if

00:22:13.260 you find out that

00:22:13.940 earthlings, I

00:22:14.720 mean that,

00:22:15.020 that aliens are

00:22:16.400 real.

00:22:16.980 I'm not,

00:22:17.920 I might actually

00:22:19.420 stay in my house

00:22:20.160 a little bit more

00:22:21.080 than go out into

00:22:22.000 the streets.

00:22:22.660 in the documentary

00:22:25.240 Age of Disclosure,

00:22:27.160 physicist UFO

00:22:28.000 researcher revealed

00:22:29.640 that George H.W.

00:22:30.620 Bush administration

00:22:31.300 convened experts in

00:22:32.240 the alien field in

00:22:33.120 the early 2000s,

00:22:34.020 tasked him with

00:22:34.460 figuring out the

00:22:35.420 positives and

00:22:36.100 negatives of

00:22:36.900 revealing that

00:22:37.520 mankind is not

00:22:38.480 alone in the

00:22:39.160 universe.

00:22:39.660 The group weighed

00:22:40.580 the impact on 60

00:22:41.640 different aspects of

00:22:42.600 human culture,

00:22:43.200 including religion

00:22:43.880 and the stock

00:22:44.780 market, and

00:22:45.220 determined the

00:22:45.740 negative fallout

00:22:46.420 of public

00:22:46.800 disclosure outweighed

00:22:48.060 the benefits for

00:22:48.880 population at large.

00:22:49.940 Are we really

00:22:55.400 that, are we

00:22:56.420 really that

00:22:56.880 fragile?

00:23:00.500 Jason, would you

00:23:01.400 weigh in on this?

00:23:02.760 Do you really

00:23:03.820 think we're that

00:23:04.760 fragile on this?

00:23:06.220 That we would,

00:23:08.980 we would fall

00:23:10.420 apart?

00:23:11.000 I mean, my faith

00:23:11.940 is not so fragile

00:23:13.720 that I find out

00:23:15.380 that there's, you

00:23:15.960 know, aliens that

00:23:17.180 I'm going to, I'm

00:23:18.580 going to lose my

00:23:19.460 faith.

00:23:19.940 And stop going

00:23:20.580 to church?

00:23:21.060 That wouldn't

00:23:21.420 make any sense

00:23:22.140 at all to me.

00:23:24.000 I'm going to pull

00:23:24.660 my money out of

00:23:25.260 the stock market

00:23:26.000 because we have

00:23:27.680 evidence that

00:23:28.340 aliens are real?

00:23:29.620 What sense does

00:23:30.580 that make?

00:23:31.840 I think there's a

00:23:32.720 couple of different

00:23:33.400 things.

00:23:34.100 Like, did you ever

00:23:34.660 see that movie

00:23:35.300 Contact with Jodie

00:23:36.280 Foster back in,

00:23:37.420 like, the early

00:23:37.800 90s?

00:23:38.480 Yes, loved it.

00:23:39.640 It was really, it

00:23:40.300 was really good.

00:23:41.140 And I don't know

00:23:42.000 if you remember,

00:23:42.520 there were, like,

00:23:43.460 fringe, you know,

00:23:44.980 religious groups

00:23:45.680 that were coming

00:23:46.260 out, like, in the

00:23:46.820 movie.

00:23:47.200 I thought that was

00:23:47.680 kind of very, I

00:23:48.640 don't know, similar

00:23:49.760 to how it would

00:23:50.460 be today.

00:23:50.820 But I think the

00:23:51.320 biggest thing, the

00:23:52.420 big people that

00:23:53.620 are within the

00:23:55.460 disclosure movement

00:23:56.480 or were within the

00:23:58.060 entire thing, you

00:23:58.700 see these on some

00:23:59.880 of the documentaries,

00:24:00.660 some of the guys

00:24:01.100 that used to be part

00:24:01.820 of the program.

00:24:02.900 There was this one

00:24:03.580 guy that said the

00:24:05.060 biggest worry was

00:24:06.620 that if they come

00:24:07.220 out and confirm

00:24:08.100 everything now was

00:24:09.540 economic.

00:24:10.080 economic, and he

00:24:11.720 went further into

00:24:12.620 it, and he said,

00:24:13.300 well, what happens

00:24:14.660 when a lot of

00:24:15.480 these competing

00:24:16.120 companies, they

00:24:17.380 suddenly found out

00:24:18.600 that some of the

00:24:19.540 technology was based

00:24:20.480 off of recovered

00:24:21.320 craft, and it was

00:24:23.040 lent or given over

00:24:24.960 to, let's just say

00:24:25.840 Comcast.

00:24:26.680 Let's just throw

00:24:27.100 that out there as

00:24:27.560 an example.

00:24:28.800 But all the other

00:24:29.780 telecommunication

00:24:30.460 companies.

00:24:33.040 I mean, come on,

00:24:33.900 man.

00:24:34.280 Really?

00:24:34.740 We're like, we've

00:24:35.980 got this alien

00:24:36.600 technology.

00:24:37.380 Who do we give

00:24:37.800 it to?

00:24:39.780 Let's give it to

00:24:40.480 the cable company.

00:24:43.900 Another one,

00:24:44.720 Fisher Price.

00:24:46.840 Give it over to

00:24:47.700 Fisher Price, and

00:24:48.780 let's have them

00:24:49.400 create the best

00:24:50.240 toys ever.

00:24:50.880 But then Mattel

00:24:51.760 is like, whoa,

00:24:52.920 whoa, whoa, whoa.

00:24:54.100 We didn't get any

00:24:54.980 of that cool new

00:24:55.740 toy tech.

00:24:56.700 Like, what is

00:24:57.060 going on here?

00:24:58.220 We deserve

00:24:59.320 basically reparations,

00:25:00.820 or we deserve

00:25:01.300 compensation for

00:25:02.920 everything that they

00:25:03.940 got and gave them

00:25:04.740 an advantage for.

00:25:06.560 Seriously,

00:25:06.960 that is the

00:25:07.700 scenario that

00:25:08.340 they are the

00:25:08.760 most worried

00:25:09.400 about as far

00:25:10.200 as economic.

00:25:11.380 Trillions and

00:25:12.040 trillions of

00:25:12.540 dollars that

00:25:13.520 would now go up

00:25:15.120 for grabs for

00:25:15.640 them to fight

00:25:16.120 over for, and

00:25:17.240 it would happen

00:25:17.700 globally,

00:25:18.240 internationally.

00:25:19.020 That is the

00:25:20.040 biggest thing when

00:25:21.200 you think about

00:25:21.680 fragility that

00:25:22.580 they're thinking

00:25:23.000 about.

00:25:25.180 Yeah, go ahead,

00:25:26.300 Ricky.

00:25:26.600 I think you're

00:25:27.640 abnormal.

00:25:28.580 I think the fact

00:25:29.240 that you're not

00:25:29.940 worried.

00:25:30.800 I mean, you've

00:25:31.220 seen the alien

00:25:31.980 movies.

00:25:32.520 It never ends

00:25:33.500 well for the

00:25:34.020 humans.

00:25:34.740 And the fact

00:25:35.260 that you're not

00:25:35.920 worried.

00:25:36.320 What does AI?

00:25:37.380 Makes you

00:25:37.820 abnormal.

00:25:38.900 People like

00:25:39.640 me, I

00:25:40.600 actually have

00:25:41.000 nightmares about

00:25:41.760 aliens invading

00:25:42.640 Earth.

00:25:43.120 Am I alone

00:25:43.580 here?

00:25:43.920 I'm serious.

00:25:44.880 You are alone.

00:25:45.380 If I hear that

00:25:46.160 aliens are touching

00:25:46.920 down or they're

00:25:47.540 trying to contact,

00:25:48.100 I'm finding your

00:25:49.020 bunker in Idaho

00:25:50.060 and I'm locking

00:25:51.540 down.

00:25:53.140 Really?

00:25:54.820 That's, I think

00:25:55.700 that's, really?

00:25:57.020 Why?

00:25:57.640 How are you not

00:25:58.380 afraid?

00:26:00.820 Well, because what

00:26:01.500 are you going to do

00:26:02.000 about it?

00:26:02.480 So you're just

00:26:03.640 going to hang

00:26:04.720 it up and not

00:26:06.060 fight the aliens?

00:26:06.760 No.

00:26:07.540 If I hear that

00:26:08.740 aliens are on the

00:26:10.040 other side of the

00:26:10.940 moon and they're

00:26:12.060 mounting an

00:26:13.160 invasion, then I'm

00:26:14.500 worried.

00:26:15.400 But if we find out

00:26:17.140 that aliens landed

00:26:18.760 on Earth in 1956

00:26:20.400 and they died and we

00:26:22.760 have their bodies

00:26:23.540 someplace, okay, well

00:26:25.940 we know those are

00:26:26.640 real.

00:26:27.260 Now, if they say,

00:26:28.320 and by the way,

00:26:29.200 they're shapeshifters

00:26:30.140 and they might be

00:26:30.980 among us, then I

00:26:32.060 freak out.

00:26:32.720 Are you talking

00:26:33.080 about Nancy Pelosi?

00:26:34.360 Yes, I am.

00:26:35.740 I mean, then I

00:26:36.720 freak out.

00:26:37.420 But if it's just

00:26:38.140 that we have, we

00:26:39.980 know that aliens

00:26:40.960 exist, okay, I

00:26:43.500 mean, I'm not

00:26:44.140 surprised by that.

00:26:46.100 I mean, I would be

00:26:47.040 very surprised if

00:26:47.840 they're shapeshifters

00:26:48.580 and they're here on

00:26:49.240 Earth, but I'm not

00:26:50.780 surprised.

00:26:51.940 As it says in that

00:26:53.080 movie, Contact, as

00:26:54.220 Carl Sagan used to

00:26:55.420 say, what a

00:26:56.300 horrible waste of

00:26:57.380 space if we are

00:26:58.520 alone.

00:26:58.840 I mean, think of

00:27:01.020 the vastness of

00:27:01.880 space.

00:27:03.120 All of this was

00:27:04.120 created and we're

00:27:05.240 the only forms of

00:27:07.040 intelligent life that

00:27:08.120 makes no sense

00:27:09.200 whatsoever.

00:27:09.900 So I'm actually kind

00:27:11.120 of excited by it.

00:27:12.260 I don't want to

00:27:13.420 arrange the meeting.

00:27:15.500 I'm not like, hey,

00:27:17.220 let's put out all of

00:27:18.600 our Reese's peanut

00:27:19.420 butter cups when they

00:27:20.340 come on down.

00:27:21.200 They might like

00:27:21.840 them.

00:27:22.780 It's not going to

00:27:23.720 end well.

00:27:25.000 So I'm not, yeah.

00:27:27.020 Have you seen the

00:27:27.880 documentary Mirage?

00:27:28.840 Mirage Men?

00:27:31.340 No.

00:27:32.120 So I'm bringing this

00:27:33.440 up because a lot of

00:27:34.260 the insiders are

00:27:35.000 talking about in the

00:27:35.680 chat right now that

00:27:36.400 this could be or this

00:27:37.540 seems like a

00:27:38.820 distraction, you know,

00:27:40.180 some kind of

00:27:40.800 distraction operation.

00:27:42.680 And Mirage Men,

00:27:43.940 every time the

00:27:44.940 government wanted to

00:27:45.680 distract you away from

00:27:46.640 something, they would

00:27:47.740 say, oh, look at

00:27:48.720 the, this is like,

00:27:49.680 they would filter it

00:27:50.740 out little by little

00:27:51.520 and say this is

00:27:52.100 evidence of aliens.

00:27:52.860 It does seem very,

00:27:54.340 very convenient that

00:27:55.600 every time a major

00:27:56.480 story is going on,

00:27:57.700 we get a new

00:27:58.580 disclosure hint.

00:27:59.840 I don't know.

00:28:01.040 Oh, I,

00:28:01.900 I think this is much

00:28:04.700 more likely that this

00:28:05.760 is a PSYOP.

00:28:07.140 I think it's much

00:28:08.340 more likely that

00:28:09.080 that's what's

00:28:09.740 happening.

00:28:10.020 I do believe that

00:28:13.020 there is a good

00:28:15.240 shot that we have

00:28:16.720 had, that we have

00:28:18.760 intelligence that

00:28:19.640 life exists outside

00:28:22.160 of human life,

00:28:24.260 okay, and earth

00:28:25.520 life.

00:28:26.200 I do believe that

00:28:27.480 there is a good

00:28:28.420 chance that we know

00:28:29.420 that.

00:28:30.760 Whether we have,

00:28:31.920 you know, alien

00:28:32.860 technology or not,

00:28:34.360 I don't know.

00:28:35.080 I'd be interested to

00:28:36.040 find out.

00:28:36.540 But I think this

00:28:37.980 whole thing is much

00:28:39.660 more likely a

00:28:40.460 PSYOP.

00:28:42.080 I mean, you know,

00:28:42.660 what would be the

00:28:43.220 one thing that would

00:28:44.000 unite everybody on

00:28:45.300 earth?

00:28:49.340 People in space

00:28:50.520 coming to get you.

00:28:51.980 So what is the

00:28:53.320 PSYOP?

00:28:53.680 Are they trying to

00:28:54.640 distract us from?

00:28:56.240 Like, is it war

00:28:57.280 with Iran?

00:28:58.440 The economy?

00:29:01.720 I think that it's

00:29:03.360 interesting that this

00:29:04.240 is all happening the

00:29:05.140 week of Epstein

00:29:06.880 again.

00:29:07.260 I mean, when this

00:29:11.200 story came out, you

00:29:13.440 know, we should, we

00:29:14.280 should, anybody who's

00:29:15.340 an insider, anybody who

00:29:16.540 is, you know, just,

00:29:17.640 just do a quick search,

00:29:19.700 line up the big

00:29:20.900 stories, when the big

00:29:21.960 stories came out on

00:29:23.720 UFO and find out what

00:29:26.340 was happening those

00:29:27.280 weeks.

00:29:29.580 And line up the big

00:29:31.140 stories and see if

00:29:32.020 there's any correlation

00:29:33.120 to big stories that

00:29:34.420 came out those weeks.

00:29:35.560 For instance, I mean,

00:29:36.800 if you start to find

00:29:37.720 60% of them also

00:29:39.720 coincide with Epstein

00:29:41.160 things, I think you

00:29:42.660 have your answer on

00:29:43.460 your PSYOP.

00:29:45.840 But that, that should

00:29:46.820 be easy to, that

00:29:48.120 should be easy to

00:29:48.820 check.

00:29:49.340 Run that through, get

00:29:50.500 that to me.

00:29:51.540 888-727-BECK,

00:29:53.500 triple, isn't that

00:29:54.080 weird?

00:29:54.440 You would never be

00:29:55.440 able to do that a

00:29:56.160 year ago.

00:29:57.380 I mean, the access to

00:29:59.000 information that we

00:30:00.080 have now is so

00:30:01.520 incredible.

00:30:02.580 You can do anything.

00:30:05.880 And I don't think

00:30:06.680 people really

00:30:07.240 understand.

00:30:07.780 I don't think they

00:30:08.220 appreciate the time

00:30:10.020 that we live in right

00:30:11.060 now.

00:30:11.600 Quick, enjoy it,

00:30:12.680 because, you know, as

00:30:13.560 I said, I think I said

00:30:15.380 this off the air

00:30:15.980 earlier, so maybe I

00:30:18.000 shouldn't say it on the

00:30:18.660 air, but we all know

00:30:19.600 that Elon Musk is

00:30:20.520 going to turn out to be

00:30:21.200 the Antichrist at some

00:30:22.420 point.

00:30:23.360 But, but until that

00:30:26.000 time, it's kind of cool

00:30:27.260 to see everything that's

00:30:28.180 happening, right?

00:30:28.960 You're listening to the

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00:30:36.020 I saw this amazing

00:30:38.360 video, I think it was on

00:30:39.200 Instagram last week, of a

00:30:41.480 guy who set up these

00:30:43.140 like pay phones, one in

00:30:46.020 San Francisco and one in

00:30:48.560 Abilene, Texas.

00:30:50.120 And the one in San

00:30:51.320 Francisco said, talk to a

00:30:52.980 Republican.

00:30:53.700 The one in Abilene said,

00:30:55.520 talk to a Democrat.

00:30:56.520 And if you picked up

00:30:58.660 the phone, it would

00:30:59.580 ring in the other city

00:31:01.020 and then people would

00:31:01.680 pick up.

00:31:02.500 Let me show you what

00:31:03.600 happened.

00:31:03.960 It's an amazing

00:31:04.700 experiment.

00:31:05.640 Let me play a little

00:31:06.560 clip of what I saw.

00:31:07.840 We bought this pay phone

00:31:09.020 on Facebook Marketplace

00:31:10.140 and then modified it a

00:31:11.240 bunch and then changed

00:31:12.160 the signage to say,

00:31:13.180 call a Republican.

00:31:14.280 And then we brought the

00:31:14.900 pay phone to San

00:31:15.600 Francisco, California,

00:31:16.800 which is the most

00:31:17.580 liberal city in America.

00:31:18.780 And then we installed

00:31:19.620 the pay phone outside of

00:31:20.920 black serum tattoo, of

00:31:22.600 course, with their

00:31:23.240 permission.

00:31:23.580 And after we installed

00:31:24.300 the phone, we then got

00:31:25.320 on a flight to Texas.

00:31:26.520 where we bought another

00:31:27.500 pay phone in Dallas and

00:31:29.200 drove it two hours west

00:31:30.500 to Abilene, the most

00:31:31.940 conservative city in

00:31:33.040 America.

00:31:33.580 And then at an Airbnb,

00:31:34.680 we modified it a bunch

00:31:35.760 and had it say, call a

00:31:37.400 Democrat.

00:31:38.220 And then we installed

00:31:38.900 this pay phone outside

00:31:39.900 of seven in one books,

00:31:41.600 of course, with their

00:31:42.320 permission.

00:31:42.840 And when you pick up

00:31:43.520 this phone in Texas,

00:31:44.380 it automatically calls

00:31:45.660 the other phone in

00:31:46.560 San Francisco.

00:31:47.340 And when you pick up

00:31:47.940 the phone in San

00:31:48.580 Francisco, it

00:31:49.300 automatically calls

00:31:50.120 this one in Texas.

00:31:51.440 The project is called

00:31:52.260 The Party Line.

00:31:53.280 And the goal is to get

00:31:54.140 people from different

00:31:54.860 political viewpoints to

00:31:55.820 have meaningful,

00:31:56.880 not hateful conversations.

00:31:58.400 Because at a biological

00:31:59.260 level, humans are far more

00:32:00.680 similar than we are

00:32:01.520 different.

00:32:02.020 And while political

00:32:02.540 discourse often causes

00:32:03.560 stress, human-to-human

00:32:04.760 friendly conversations

00:32:05.700 reduce the stress in our

00:32:06.940 brains and activate the

00:32:08.160 neurotransmitters,

00:32:08.940 dopamine, and cannabinoids,

00:32:10.240 which make us happier.

00:32:11.260 So, the guy who did it is

00:32:15.040 Axel Bouchon, and he's a

00:32:16.700 neuroscientist.

00:32:17.680 He's not some political

00:32:18.680 guy.

00:32:19.000 He's a neuroscientist.

00:32:21.000 And he is the CEO and

00:32:22.500 founder of Matter

00:32:23.580 Neuroscience.

00:32:25.520 And his experiment was,

00:32:27.060 what happens to our

00:32:28.780 brains when we're given

00:32:29.660 the opportunity to find

00:32:30.780 connection over animosity?

00:32:33.280 Axel, what a great

00:32:34.940 experiment.

00:32:35.620 Thanks for being on the

00:32:36.300 program with me.

00:32:38.040 Well, thanks for having

00:32:38.900 me, Glenn.

00:32:41.120 Yeah, I mean, we try to

00:32:43.920 really translate

00:32:44.600 neuroscience into something

00:32:45.660 you can feel.

00:32:46.660 That's kind of almost like

00:32:48.620 what we do actually since a

00:32:49.700 very long time, to be

00:32:50.560 honest.

00:32:53.200 What did you find?

00:32:54.600 Because I've seen some of

00:32:56.920 the conversations, and

00:32:58.340 they're amazing.

00:32:59.820 I didn't expect it.

00:33:00.880 Amazing.

00:33:01.700 Yeah.

00:33:03.760 Maybe I just take one step

00:33:05.460 back to quickly explain

00:33:06.620 what we are.

00:33:07.240 Because we're actually a

00:33:07.920 hardcore neuroscience

00:33:08.880 biotech company.

00:33:09.980 And we started because

00:33:11.200 today we don't really

00:33:13.500 understand why people get

00:33:14.580 depressed on a molecular

00:33:15.780 level.

00:33:16.460 So the company, our

00:33:18.880 company tries to find a

00:33:20.060 biomarker for happiness

00:33:21.800 and depression.

00:33:23.060 What we did successfully

00:33:24.140 like last year, so our

00:33:26.080 medical program, what is

00:33:27.260 one of our major

00:33:28.260 activities is in Stanford

00:33:29.520 with patients.

00:33:30.980 But then we realized that

00:33:32.600 people who were in our

00:33:33.720 studies actually became

00:33:35.300 happier by just doing the

00:33:37.120 study.

00:33:37.740 And that led us to

00:33:40.020 creating our emotional

00:33:41.780 fitness club, what is

00:33:43.820 literally like a gym where

00:33:45.200 you train the muscles of

00:33:46.240 your brain, what is kind of

00:33:47.280 your emotions.

00:33:48.180 And the experiment that

00:33:49.660 you have seen is just a

00:33:51.200 stunt of the fitness

00:33:53.300 club, basically, the

00:33:54.280 emotional fitness club.

00:33:55.280 So tell me, wait, wait,

00:33:56.020 then tell me about the

00:33:57.160 fitness club here before we

00:33:58.200 go any further.

00:33:59.000 What do you do in the

00:34:00.240 fitness club?

00:34:02.160 Like, and let me take the

00:34:03.300 example off the phone.

00:34:04.200 We have seen in the

00:34:05.940 experiments, in the

00:34:06.660 studies that cortisol, what

00:34:08.760 is the underlying molecule

00:34:10.360 for all our negative

00:34:11.680 emotions, can be overtaken

00:34:15.400 and replaced if you give

00:34:17.040 very strong signals of

00:34:18.960 belonging, like oxytocin for

00:34:20.760 family love or cannabinoids

00:34:22.280 for just friendship.

00:34:23.620 And this works extremely

00:34:24.740 well when you talk to

00:34:26.740 people, preferably in

00:34:28.520 person, but already when you

00:34:29.640 just talk to them, we as a

00:34:31.940 human species, we realize

00:34:34.640 how emotions are kind of

00:34:37.900 sounded, and then we feel

00:34:39.820 better if we are not

00:34:41.100 immediately attacked.

00:34:42.260 And that was the

00:34:43.420 experiment.

00:34:43.920 We felt like, hey, there's

00:34:44.780 so much negative

00:34:47.100 connotation in the media

00:34:49.780 that is not like really

00:34:51.100 human-to-human interaction

00:34:52.760 that we wanted to

00:34:54.200 reproduce the data we have

00:34:55.320 seen in our study, that

00:34:56.320 when you calmly talk to

00:34:58.220 someone, you're actually

00:34:59.060 developing an interesting

00:35:00.260 conversation, because we're

00:35:02.240 humans.

00:35:03.020 And that was literally, I

00:35:05.980 mean, to me, a huge

00:35:07.520 surprise, very, very nicely

00:35:09.800 reproduced.

00:35:10.520 So we had like 250

00:35:12.360 conversations and over 300

00:35:15.300 voice messages, and we have

00:35:18.840 not listened to all of them,

00:35:20.060 but I think over 200.

00:35:21.140 We have not found a single

00:35:22.720 negative, aggressive

00:35:24.540 conversation.

00:35:27.180 Unbelievable.

00:35:28.580 Unbelievable.

00:35:29.760 Okay, so is this part of,

00:35:31.780 you know, when you say just

00:35:33.780 by talking, you start to feel

00:35:35.720 better, is this part of the

00:35:37.380 problem with social media?

00:35:38.560 We're not talking to each

00:35:39.740 other, we're only talking to

00:35:41.160 each other via text, so there's

00:35:42.340 no human-to-human or much

00:35:44.540 less human-to-human contact,

00:35:45.920 and that's why maybe we're

00:35:47.520 starting to see suicide rates

00:35:48.700 and everything else?

00:35:50.860 I think the connection to

00:35:52.000 suicide rate is most probably a

00:35:53.660 longer conversation where we

00:35:55.040 need an hour together.

00:35:55.940 But I think the key thing is

00:35:58.900 indeed what you said, right?

00:36:00.500 If I can write something, I

00:36:02.540 can be aggressive because I

00:36:04.680 don't see the reaction, right?

00:36:06.500 And then if you just even look

00:36:08.680 at what is shown in classical

00:36:12.460 news channels, it's always like

00:36:14.080 the peak of an aggression, right?

00:36:16.140 The escalation.

00:36:17.260 So we are selectively getting

00:36:19.140 exposed to triggers for

00:36:23.740 negativity.

00:36:24.260 What in our brain is triggering

00:36:25.920 cortisol at its max.

00:36:27.600 And cortisol is like literally

00:36:28.820 shutting down all the molecules

00:36:32.440 that make us feel good.

00:36:33.760 It's like the ultimate stop

00:36:36.180 signal for feeling good.

00:36:37.800 And a normal conversation

00:36:39.320 actually restarts these.

00:36:40.700 Can you help me out on that?

00:36:43.260 Because cortisol also is the one

00:36:44.880 that when you got to go, you know,

00:36:46.640 when you got to get up and go in

00:36:47.740 the morning, your cortisol level is

00:36:49.420 very high.

00:36:50.800 I mean, I've never heard it put in

00:36:54.380 such a negative term before.

00:36:56.100 Give me the pro and the con on

00:36:58.780 cortisol.

00:37:00.340 Yeah.

00:37:01.040 And good spot.

00:37:02.820 The point is we have cortisol

00:37:04.820 activities in the body and literally

00:37:07.080 as a neurotransmitter modulator in our

00:37:09.340 brain and in the brain, it has a very

00:37:11.900 negative influence on our mood.

00:37:14.620 So indeed, our body gets up and needs

00:37:17.980 it to get active.

00:37:19.160 But that is only a peak in the beginning

00:37:21.460 of the morning.

00:37:22.900 But when we are chronically exposed to

00:37:25.320 cortisol, we get literally

00:37:26.880 molecularly blocked to experience good

00:37:30.280 emotions.

00:37:30.720 And that was a little bit the experiment

00:37:35.000 that we wanted to prove that even if

00:37:36.620 you know, just imagine, you know, you

00:37:38.640 will call a Republican, you know, you

00:37:41.420 will call a Democrat that actually maybe

00:37:42.900 in the day before you were like, eat

00:37:45.620 these guys.

00:37:46.800 But then just when you start talking

00:37:48.700 about the weather, when you talk about

00:37:50.220 any sandwiches, when you talk, I mean,

00:37:52.620 this was the funny thing, like food was

00:37:54.280 an interesting topic.

00:37:55.320 Hey, what are you doing?

00:37:56.100 And it's like, and that was, I think

00:37:58.800 was, was really great.

00:37:59.840 I, I, it almost feels like, um, we should

00:38:02.600 have them in much more cities.

00:38:04.940 Everywhere.

00:38:05.540 I strongly believe.

00:38:07.300 Yeah.

00:38:07.540 Yeah.

00:38:08.760 I'd like to see you do one to Canada,

00:38:11.140 Americans to Canada, Canada to America.

00:38:13.280 Cause it's, I mean, we, we just, you

00:38:16.820 know, I know if we just talk, we're

00:38:18.680 going to get past all of this crap.

00:38:20.360 Um, that was the surprising thing to

00:38:22.660 me on this.

00:38:23.360 When I was listening to the conversations

00:38:25.640 that were coming back was they were

00:38:27.380 not what I expected because it is talk

00:38:30.020 to a Democrat, talk to a Republican.

00:38:31.740 So you would think somebody's going to

00:38:33.840 pick up the phone and go, I got to give

00:38:35.160 you a piece of my mind.

00:38:36.580 Um, instead it was, so what's it like

00:38:39.760 there?

00:38:40.540 What's happening around you?

00:38:41.780 And it was very normal.

00:38:44.660 It's weird.

00:38:45.100 Yeah.

00:38:46.320 Yeah.

00:38:47.940 Weird.

00:38:48.560 Oh, I think normal.

00:38:49.920 Right.

00:38:50.180 So, so, so I also have to, um,

00:38:52.840 yeah, I mean, normal is weird now.

00:38:57.180 I don't know if you know that

00:38:58.020 everything is upside down, but, but

00:39:02.500 you see, for me, the scientist who

00:39:04.120 only looks at molecules and cells, I

00:39:07.460 cannot see any differences anyways

00:39:09.260 between the political directions.

00:39:11.260 It's for me, it's we are all the

00:39:12.660 same, right?

00:39:13.560 So, so that the key thing for me was

00:39:15.700 actually to kind of just like help us

00:39:17.380 feel that we have really a very, very

00:39:19.460 strong similarity.

00:39:20.340 Interestingly, even when the

00:39:22.700 conversation changes moved towards

00:39:25.100 political topics, it was interesting to

00:39:27.900 observe that nobody was kind of

00:39:30.840 subscribing a hundred percent to

00:39:33.800 everything of their respective party.

00:39:36.020 It was always like, Hey, I, I don't like

00:39:38.720 this particular part, but, but I like the

00:39:41.660 other thing.

00:39:42.160 And so it was interesting that actually

00:39:44.020 almost central America, right?

00:39:48.040 So I'm in Germany, right?

00:39:49.180 There was a, there's like, we have

00:39:50.740 like a very strong center party where we

00:39:52.900 had it, right?

00:39:53.660 So in a way it feels like in the middle,

00:39:56.900 most probably even 90% in the middle,

00:39:58.900 most probably agree on a lot of things.

00:40:01.880 I'm not saying everything, but it sounded

00:40:03.240 like almost everything.

00:40:04.360 And so, yeah.

00:40:05.680 I know.

00:40:06.900 Was there a conversation that you did

00:40:08.700 here that really struck you, uh, as

00:40:12.540 unique or important?

00:40:16.080 Um, so actually several, because it was

00:40:21.240 just like, everybody just wanted to be

00:40:22.860 okay.

00:40:23.720 So it was just topics to where you are.

00:40:26.640 Okay.

00:40:26.900 It was about food.

00:40:27.680 It was about how is the weather.

00:40:28.820 It was about how, what do you do today?

00:40:30.880 How is the family?

00:40:32.040 So, so like literally the foundation of

00:40:33.860 being just okay.

00:40:35.220 And that when you hear it over and over

00:40:37.100 again, that was, I think the remarkable

00:40:40.800 thing that across, I would almost say 90%

00:40:44.160 of the conversations that was the joint

00:40:46.280 force, like just be okay.

00:40:49.360 And so, so, so I couldn't kind of pick

00:40:52.280 one that is an outlier on this.

00:40:54.960 Um, but I think it was interesting for us

00:40:57.280 is that we, we received, and that's so

00:40:59.840 confirming that we received, I think one

00:41:01.960 email with negative writing.

00:41:06.400 So all voice messages, everything with,

00:41:08.560 with voice was okay.

00:41:10.660 Writing was negative.

00:41:12.100 We got only one negative.

00:41:13.720 Interesting.

00:41:15.240 Interesting.

00:41:16.860 It, it, you know, I hear this from so

00:41:19.800 many people on both sides of the aisle.

00:41:21.860 When you go out into the real world, not

00:41:24.860 Washington, not the media scape, not

00:41:26.720 any, you're actually out in the real

00:41:28.160 world and you hear this from people.

00:41:31.020 They're just tired of all of this.

00:41:32.280 They just, they just, can't we just, can't

00:41:34.420 we just go back to being normal people

00:41:36.520 again?

00:41:37.380 Um, and it's good to see that that's

00:41:40.320 not, uh, not just something that, you

00:41:43.320 know, you kind of feel it.

00:41:44.660 It's actually, you're proving it to be

00:41:46.440 real.

00:41:47.560 Um, is there, is there anything?

00:41:50.100 Yeah.

00:41:50.300 No, go ahead.

00:41:52.960 Can I just, just add one thing because

00:41:54.700 I lived in the U S worked in the U S

00:41:56.960 and moved a lot around the world.

00:41:59.320 And now I'm just living in Germany at

00:42:00.940 the moment.

00:42:02.120 But for me as an outsider, it just

00:42:05.840 like to, to send that message to the

00:42:08.740 U S that you were basically the

00:42:10.700 foundation, for instance, for my life, I

00:42:13.180 would not be standing here without you

00:42:14.560 guys.

00:42:15.440 So what unites you is so strong and

00:42:20.120 so unique that I'm running a U S

00:42:24.740 company, right?

00:42:25.320 So, so therefore, when I see it, it's

00:42:26.480 like, just so bad, it's just not

00:42:29.200 necessary, right?

00:42:30.300 So it just feels if, if you would all

00:42:32.560 can just like come together and think

00:42:33.800 about your absolute uniqueness and kind

00:42:35.820 of building the craziest stuff and even

00:42:38.980 achieve it, that is kind of just like

00:42:41.720 what unites everything to me.

00:42:43.080 Um, and, and I say that as a, I think

00:42:45.840 actually, we used to, we used to believe

00:42:50.000 that about ourselves and there's just

00:42:51.660 this movement.

00:42:52.380 I don't know how big it is.

00:42:54.340 Um, but there is this movement and it

00:42:56.160 is taken a real hold in social media,

00:42:59.020 et cetera, that America should be ashamed

00:43:02.100 of itself, that it's not unique in the

00:43:04.500 world, that it it's, you know, it's a

00:43:06.500 failure where a lot of Americans look at

00:43:09.460 this and go, yeah, you know, we do suck

00:43:11.860 on a lot of things.

00:43:12.860 Like every country sucks on things.

00:43:14.440 We've had bad moments in our history, et

00:43:16.480 cetera, et cetera.

00:43:17.020 Every country has had that, but there is

00:43:19.380 something unique here.

00:43:20.660 And that, that is the, the, that was the

00:43:24.920 unum that used to hold us together in

00:43:27.000 e pluribus unum.

00:43:27.860 It was the, these rights that we all had.

00:43:30.980 And, and you know, I'll def, I'll defend

00:43:33.500 with my life, your right to say something

00:43:36.160 that I disagree with, but you have a right

00:43:38.300 to say it.

00:43:39.360 And that's what made us unique.

00:43:41.560 Yeah.

00:43:42.600 But we can't seem to get there anymore.

00:43:43.980 It is the uniqueness here.

00:43:45.680 Yeah.

00:43:46.380 Yeah.

00:43:47.160 Let's just get back there.

00:43:48.560 That's the whole thing.

00:43:49.280 I mean, if we join, if we join the forces,

00:43:51.400 we will get back there.

00:43:52.800 I can just say that.

00:43:53.560 I just remember myself as a little boy

00:43:55.840 standing there, Germany, right.

00:43:57.820 It was still like, um, and getting the

00:44:01.380 feelings from the U S GIs was amazing.

00:44:04.540 I can just say that it's like, it was

00:44:06.220 unique.

00:44:06.700 It's a unique set of genes.

00:44:09.300 I would even say.

00:44:13.720 Axel.

00:44:16.280 I cry easily.

00:44:17.200 So this is not a big hurdle to cross here,

00:44:19.300 but that, I mean, that means so much to

00:44:21.960 me.

00:44:22.200 And I, I think a lot of Americans hearing

00:44:25.200 that, thank you for saying that.

00:44:26.980 Uh, is it, uh, these phone, are the, are

00:44:31.460 the phone booths going elsewhere?

00:44:34.400 It's interesting how we wanted to do it

00:44:36.640 30 days and how there's interest to just

00:44:39.720 leave it open and just let it go.

00:44:41.740 Um, so we're just discussing with both.

00:44:44.360 We had some ideas from the users, whether

00:44:46.980 we should do, um, phone booth is in an

00:44:50.300 elderly home and in a college so that the

00:44:52.460 old and young may just talk to each

00:44:54.400 other.

00:44:54.640 What I think is another interesting idea.

00:44:56.180 Um, and we're just like looking, sorting

00:44:59.540 out whether that's possible.

00:45:00.860 Um, your company, you can find it.

00:45:04.660 The website is matter.xyz matter.xyz like

00:45:10.340 to have you on again to talk about what you

00:45:12.140 guys do on your, you know, your, your

00:45:14.400 mental gym, if you will.

00:45:15.760 Uh, it's, uh, matter neuros, matter

00:45:18.880 neuroscience, find it at matter.xyz.

00:45:22.620 Axel, thank you very much.

00:45:24.060 God bless.

00:45:25.460 I thank you.

00:45:26.240 Thanks so much.

00:45:26.900 Have a good day.

00:45:27.780 You bet.

00:45:29.120 Does that make you feel good?

00:45:30.580 Man, that makes me feel good.

00:45:31.660 Some say the bubbles in an arrow truffle piece

00:45:38.140 can take 34 seconds to melt in your mouth.

00:45:40.780 Sometimes the very amount you're stuck at

00:45:42.620 the same red light.

00:45:44.420 Rich, creamy, chocolatey arrow truffle.

00:45:47.280 Feel the arrow bubbles melt.

00:45:49.300 It's mind bubbling.

00:45:50.320 You bet.

00:46:11.040 You bet.

00:46:14.280 You bet.

The Glenn Beck Program - February 20, 2026

Best of the Program ｜ Guests： Rep. Anna Paulina Luna & Axel Bouchon ｜ 2⧸20⧸26

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