Best of The Program ｜ Guests： Sen. Rand Paul & Rep. Devin Nunes ｜ 7⧸22⧸21
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Joe Biden's Town Hall Town Hall, Devin Nunes on the Hill to explain what's going on, and Rand Paul's on the show to go through the Anthony Fauci vs. Rand Paul debate. Glenn also talks about the latest on the Durham investigation.
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Welcome to the podcast. Today, we go into Joe Biden's incredible town hall, where he explains every complicated issue in a way that, well, I think you're going to be left really.
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That's a little more coherent than he was last night.
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We also have Devin Nunes on, the congressman, to explain what is going on.
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And to add to that, Rand Paul. He just had a battle with Anthony Fauci.
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He's on the show today to go through all of it.
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Don't miss it. BlazeTV.com slash Glenn is the place you can go to get Glenn's TV episode from last night.
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I also went over the Fauci versus Rand Paul debate with all the documents and the quotes that we're talking about.
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They're all available on my YouTube page. You can get to it through StuDoesAmerica.com.
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And don't forget, go to StuDoesMerch.com for all your fancy t-shirts, including the Don't Be an Idiot, Don't Be a LeBron, LeBron James t-shirt available now.
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You're listening to the Best of the Glenn Beck Program.
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And, kids, there was this man called Devin Nunes, and he was doing the right thing.
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I don't know what happened to him all those years ago.
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Congressman Devin Nunes is with us now, the congressman, the Republican congressman from California, to talk about the Durham investigation.
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I mean, it seems like it's never going to come out.
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Well, look, this has been a, we're in year five of this, of this charade, the Russia hoax.
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And you have to remember, the left never lets anything die, because they have the propaganda machine that's out there promoting this.
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Every day, I mean, just last week, there was a new version that, oh, yeah, Donald Trump did something in Europe.
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So we're always combating that because the hoaxers, which there's a bunch of them, but the ones in the media who really promoted this are constantly dripping out fake news.
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So, look, as it relates to Durham, what I've always said is that I really don't care about a report.
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So, now, as we know, this is going to be a challenge for Durham.
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I do believe he's doing a thorough investigation.
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I have confidence in that because we do not hear leaks.
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But ultimately, the Department of Justice under Biden is going to have to make the call here.
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I don't believe with Durham's long-storied career, not seeing any leaks, everything that you see about him, it shows me that he wants to get to the truth.
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There should be people that are easy to indict.
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We've made, over the years, 14 criminal referrals that are not just on – that doesn't mean 14 people.
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That means dozens of people that have been referred by the Congress.
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So, look, and I think at a minimum, Glenn, what we're going to get, if Durham can get the indictments, that's what we really want.
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But if not, he'll probably have some type of report that if DOJ refuses to prosecute would be my guess.
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Well, here's the other thing that DOJ – I just read today.
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DOJ is thinking about sealing some of these documents and sealing some of these grand jury investigations and everything until 2056.
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Remember, when I had the gavel, when I was chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, we had to go – we had to fight all these bureaucracies to make things public.
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You know, we were the ones that got out that, hey, they were actually using the Clinton paid-for dirt in order to get the FISA warrant to spy on the Trump campaign.
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We had to use all the power of the House of Representatives and the Constitution in order to get that out.
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That's why, you know, you're probably surprised.
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We have to get the gavels back next year in order to hold these guys accountable.
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They can't bury stuff as long as – because, you know, we, the House of Representatives, we don't need the Senate to sign off.
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We can approve anything we want to declassify information.
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If, indeed, they try to hide the Durham report.
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I mean, we've lost a lot of faith, but all faith in justice that anyone is actually going to pay for a crime.
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I mean, you've got people walking out of Target stores now with their hands full of stuff, and they're not running out.
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They're just walking out because no one pays for their crimes anymore.
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We have the FBI lawyer that falsified evidence.
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That guy – that makes me say, if they can do that to him, what are they going to do to me?
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Because if they're doing that to the president, lying about it, changing documents, and then lying to the FISA court, and nothing really happens to him, we're all in deep trouble.
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And I don't want to – it's early in the morning in most parts of America, but I don't want to get people depressed or their blood pressure up.
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But the bad part is here that, look, institutions across this country are decaying, even ones that we held in a very high regard, whether it's all the intelligence agencies, including the FBI, the Department of Justice, right?
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I mean, you even had yesterday, you had Nancy Pelosi for the first time, Speaker of the House, basically tell the minority, nah, we're not going to take who you want to put on committees.
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That's never happened in the 230-plus year history of the United States of America in the House of Representatives.
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So, yes, every institution is decaying rapidly.
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Look, I'm from California, so I've watched this happen my whole life.
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And these institutions are rotting from within.
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And, look, it's just a problem when you've got the beltway and 95 percent of the people vote for Biden.
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And so you've got all throughout all the bureaucracy.
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I mean, if you are a Republican there, you're probably scared to admit it because, you know, you probably get beat up walking out of the building.
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News broke last week that a federal prosecutor in Delaware, I think, investigated, you know, delayed the investigation into Hunter Biden so it wouldn't become a headline during the election.
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One of our good friends is going through the laptop and reading everything.
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And he says when it all comes out and he's he's going to be bringing out his report probably at the end of the year when he says when it all comes out, he said it is devastating.
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The White House says that, you know, he's going to, you know, Hunter Biden is now an artist with five hundred thousand dollar paintings, which is insanity.
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He's going to be at the opening cocktail party where you invite all the big what is he walking around blindfolded.
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And and look, so what we have to do, and this is what I do.
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We have to get up every day and you have to fight.
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You have to get in the trenches and you have to fight.
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There's so much that has to be done at the state level, the local level.
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And look, and Glenn, you know, this is just as well as anybody.
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The scariest thing that we face right now is it's not that it's people say, well, it's the press.
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But that's actually not the problem, because because even though they control 95 percent of the press, they basically suck.
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And and the five percent that we have, the investigative reporters that we have, that, for example, I just saw yesterday that now we learn from real investigative reporting from the from the laptop, from the laptop from hell, that that Hunter Biden, his father, Joe Biden.
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Had a non-government email that he was emailing and forwarding things on.
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Remember this is very reminiscent of Hillary Clinton.
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And so Biden had the same had the same thing and many other actors.
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But so I'm not worried about that because we we can do the investigations, especially if we get Congress back and Senate back and we get gavels.
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My biggest concern is the censorship by these tech.
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But but but when when Facebook and Instagram and and Twitter and Google, when they start, when they start censoring so badly that I can't find the Glenn Beck program.
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But if you did, I mean, you would think that that if I'm not dead, I should someone should have killed me.
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Or you're so it's just it's that's the biggest concern that I have moving forward is this outright censorship.
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And it's it's in a new it's new because it's new technology, but it's an old classic tactic.
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It's no different than what you see happening in Cuba right now is happening in our own country.
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I know when you have when you have these companies like Parler, for example, that gets nuked and completely taken off the Internet by Bezos and Apple and Google and everybody else, even though we now know they warned.
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Days before January 6th, they reached out and said, hey, I think there's trouble here.
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More people were organizing on Facebook than on on Parler.
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You mentioned the Nancy Pelosi yesterday saying, you know, we're not accepting those people on the committee.
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Devin, this is very concerning because I think this goes right into the covid, you know, this this new thing about we've got these people who are pushing propaganda and they're very dangerous and they need to be shut down.
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They are closing doors and and pushing people half the country into this position of you're a danger to society and you need to be reprogrammed or you need to be shut down or, you know, all of this, all of this stuff.
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Right. I'm very concerned about the January 6th commission, because I there's a lot of questions that need to be answered that that show they knew in advance.
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And I don't think this is a commission to find the truth.
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And look, my advice from the beginning of this was you don't lay down with with people like Pelosi.
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I mean, from the magnetometers to putting the the wall up around the Capitol to, you know, to her shenanigans that, you know, she ultimately was responsible for this.
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And if she was a real leader, she would have said that because, you know, every time I've been in Congress a while, every time, you know, there's going to be a big protest of some kind.
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They always have walls up. They always have National Guard out that didn't happen.
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So, look, I'm not saying she did it on purpose, but, hey, you're a leader.
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You're the speaker of the House. Yeah, we screwed up.
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That's what should have happened. But but to sit here and and just want to use this as a sledgehammer to to paint all conservatives in this country as as racists.
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And and that there was some insurrection going on is is total nonsense.
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And they and they know it. And that's why they won't release the 14000 hours of tape.
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So, look, I had advised the leadership that I did not think it was a good idea to deal with these people.
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They were being these people, meaning the Democrats and Pelosi.
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They were being totally disingenuous. And then but what happened yesterday, and I know you understand this,
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but this might be the the the most outrageous thing Pelosi's ever done.
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And she's done a lot of really bad, outrageous things.
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But to essentially trample over the Constitution, trample over 230 years of of of the United States Congress and to say,
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oh, I'm going to get to decide what the minority party in this country, the Republicans at this point,
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I'm going to decide who goes on what committee that's never been done.
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And and that's part of of a Democratic Republic operating is the minority have rights.
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And so isn't it ironic that the kooks, the left like Pelosi run around, oh, all the minorities were protecting you.
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No, the reality is they know exactly what they're doing.
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They're they're putting Republicans in the minority and then they're taking away our rights.
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Well, I've only got about a minute, a minute and a half for an answer on this.
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And I've got to let you run. I know you're busy.
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The one thing that concerned me before the election was the cavalier way the Democrats were taking the election.
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They didn't mind that Biden was in his basement.
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They know some I kept saying on the air, what do they know that we don't know?
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And right now in Congress, they are they have gone so far off the reservation.
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And many Democrats are starting to say, wait a minute, this is craziness.
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So last year they were just beating the crap out of Trump and Republicans.
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They had everything going their direction because they controlled all the media.
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That's why at the end of the day they had to take Parler down because it was up to nearly 20 million people on the platform.
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And, you know, thank God we still have Rumble so that we have a place to post our videos today because YouTube is still censoring us.
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They can do all the fake news stories they want.
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When I'm driving through California, I pull in the gas station, gas is $5 a gallon, right?
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Everything in the grocery store, you can't find things to buy.
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And then you put on top of that people that are working out there working for a living,
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and they're watching their neighbors sit at home and play video games and smoke dope or whatever the hell they're doing.
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They say, wait, you know, I'm getting yelled at here as a waitress.
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I'm trying to get people food, and my neighbor's making the same amount as I am.
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They can't censor that, and they can't hide that from the American people, and that's their problem.
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I know you're very busy, but I'd like to invite you to spend an hour with me on a podcast because I've got a million questions,
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and I think you're one of the honest guys who will actually provide real answers and insight for us.
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You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck Program.
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However, I would correct you, Democratic pollster.
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And I'm not sure if you're back on the sauce per se, but no.
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That seems a little hostile for a little error like that, but.
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You mean the exact reverse of my complete ideology?
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We just wanted to get the other side because I thought the town hall yesterday hosted by
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Don Lemon is among the most fair and educated men in America today.
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It was fantastic to see him and all of his fairness.
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Um, let's, uh, let's take a couple of cuts here from, uh, from Joe Biden and, um, and
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You seem pretty confident that that inflation is temporary, but if you're pumping all of
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this money into the economy, couldn't that add to?
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Moody's today when our wall street firm, not some liberal think tank said, if we pass the
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other two things I'm trying to get done, we will in fact, reduce inflation, reduce inflation,
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reduce inflation, because we're going to be providing good opportunities and jobs for
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people who in fact are going to be reinvesting that money back in all the things we're talking
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about, driving down prices, not raising prices.
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Um, I don't think he understands how inflation works.
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When you, when you have prices going up, uh, it is the matter of too few, uh, goods being
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Uh, well, that's not exactly surprising to hear the figurehead of January six say something
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No, I, it's, that's, I had nothing to do with that.
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When new money is printed by the government, have you ever, have you ever taken a big stack
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of paper, maybe you put a, put a big piece of paper, you put it down on a counter or you
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And you try to pull one piece out of that paper.
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So when you print new money in an economy, it's going to attach itself to the other money
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and it's going to seem like less dollars, which is going to bring the inflation rate
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I don't think that has any, any basis of fact in it at all.
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Oh, but please, please don't, please don't hit me with a Trump flag.
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Well, can I just ask you, Moody's, he says, is a big wall street firm.
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Actually, it is a, it's a, it's a credit rating service is what they really do is they, you
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know, they, they give the credit for the United States of America, et cetera, et cetera.
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And Biden's administration came out, I think it was last week, maybe in the week before
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and, and said, they want to take over the credit rating system.
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So wouldn't Moody's first of all, not as credible as, as, as the president would say
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But wouldn't they, wouldn't they be a little incentivized to say things that the president
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I'm not sure how the Jewish space laser is working right now.
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I have, I didn't say, okay, let's go to, uh, let's go to cut two, please.
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I think it really is a matter of people deciding now that they have opportunities to do other
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things and there is a shortage of employees, people are looking to make more money and
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And so I think your business and the tourist business is really going to be in a, in a
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Well, let me ask you, because he's, John is looking to hire people.
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Well, John, for, first of all, I, you know, the thing we did to help John and the Johns out
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is provide billions of dollars to make sure they could stay open.
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So you all contributed to making sure John could stay in business.
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And we should, we should have done that as we did for other industries.
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But secondly, John, my guess is that, um, people being seven, eight dollars an hour plus
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tips that that's, I think, John, you're going to be finding 15 bucks an hour or more.
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Uh, first of all, the administration, um, really didn't help small businesses stay at
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50 to 70% of all small businesses have closed and they're not coming back.
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Uh, I, I don't know what economy you're looking at.
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Uh, so that, here's the thing, here's the thing, let me tell you, what the Biden administration
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did and what we did was to just work with local unions and make sure they went door to
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door throughout the pandemic to let them know whether they were going to, you know, remain
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We, we talked to individual business owners who worked closely with our union allies to
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come up with a plan that would allow them to remain open.
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And what we're seeing now is many businesses did close, right?
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Many people, as you saw, many people, uh, unfortunately Glenn died in this.
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And we, we should point out, we did not have anything to do with that, but these companies
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that didn't want to go along with, with the plan we were working on, they did have higher
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I mean, that's a fact that did happen probably because they weren't masking.
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We had so many cases of COVID-19 where people affected with this respiratory illness happened
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to hit the peak of these effects while at the top of a bridge.
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And sadly, these bodies stacked up under these bridges.
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Higher walls, side of bridges, big part of the plan.
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I don't even begin to understand, uh, that it sounded like it was a union threat, but this
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And what the president said was you need to pay people, uh, more money, but that doesn't
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I mean, there's a, there's a formula, you know, you, you, you gotta, you have to have
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some profit left over to be able to keep your doors open.
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You can't just keep paying people, uh, more and more money.
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Um, I, I'm watching you now watching the, uh, the broadcast today.
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I, uh, you, you may only be playing the audio of these clips, but you should know that that
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businessman that received the money, uh, was white.
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Let me, could we, could we go to, uh, could we go to, uh, could we go to cut, uh, cut three,
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Um, that's underway, just like the other question is illogical and I've heard you speak
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about it because you always, I'm not being solicitous, but you, you're always straight
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And the question is whether or not we should be in a position where you, uh, um, are, why
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can't the, the, the experts say we know that this virus is in fact, uh, um, uh, it's going
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to be, or she, I mean, we, we, we, we know why all the drugs approved are not temporarily
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I, we'll get to the Don Lemon part here after, but I, I, what did he just say?
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He said that there's a, there's a, where, what we're doing, the thing is going on now.
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You have to, and I don't, I don't mean to be what you will, when you do what you do, when
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you do it, it results in the thought of, and that's what, what you do.
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And that's what I think the American people need to understand.
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Let's, let's go to the comment about Don Lemon.
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Uh, he said, uh, this, uh, uh, about Don Lemon.
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Could we, I know it's going to sound like a non-answer to you, but part of this is that,
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you know, uh, you, you know, you know, because you're one of the most informed journalists
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You know, the criticism I got by saying, I want to unite the country.
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Well, if we can't unite the country, we can never get some of these problems solved.
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We need to come together, Glenn, on things of common sense that Americans can all agree
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Healthcare, as you know, very important topic for the American people.
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We are seeing an incredible amount of kneecaps smashed in by crowbars all across the country.
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As a, as a union boss, what, what, what would, what would that be?
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You, I can't tell you how many people are suffering from crowbars to the face and to the knees.
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Could I, could I, could I just play a couple of questions here for you?
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I hope you're not suffering from something like that, Glenn.
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And I hope it doesn't happen to any of your family members.
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I, I'm looking right now at their, this list of addresses and I mean, they're spread over
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the country, you wouldn't think that all of them could get hit on a specific day, but
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Could I, could I just, uh, play, uh, play, uh, cut 14, please.
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So here in Hamilton County, the vaccination rate remains at about 50%.
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And you talked about the virus that's spreading.
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And as you know, children under age 12 still are not eligible to be vaccinated.
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Schools are working with all of this information as they think about reopening.
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Next month as a school employee and as a parent to children under age 12, what I'm really
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concerned, what is your message to those parents, educators, and school districts?
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My, my question is, I want to, I want to play one more and then I'm going to give you
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Um, uh, could we, could we go to cut 12, please real quickly.
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Lemon said, you have already touched on the subject of my question.
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Uh, the two most recent presidents, past presidents have both campaigned using this region's interstate
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75 bridge, the Brent Spence bridge that crosses the Ohio river as backdrops with a promise of
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an infrastructure bill that would help with the replacement.
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I just, this is a, this is somebody who is a, a union electrician.
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And, uh, the, uh, the last lady was a member of, uh, the, the teacher's union.
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It seemed like the questions were all, um, um, we're all favorable to the president.
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And I noticed the people, a lot of them were union members and, and unions aren't very popular
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What you said, what I just said that unions are unions are what not necessarily very popular
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So look, how do I, how is this audience, how is this audience selected?
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So we went through a list, a list, a list of regular Americans, regular Americans from all
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All walks of life, just randomly selected from a list, from a list.
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Who, what, what were the, what got you onto that list?
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Because it's hard to contact people these days.
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So we needed to go to a place that had the information.
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That's where we went, because we had that information.
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And you, I know, were turned around by what Joe Biden said in the town hall.
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You were turned around by Joe Biden and his responses.
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Well, I, I, I, I, I, I wouldn't exactly phrase it that way.
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I know exactly, I know where, why am I asking you when I know where your son is?
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Why would you say that you know where, why would you even know where my son is?
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I thought it was a very interesting broadcast last night and I was turned around.
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Senator Rand Paul, I am thrilled to have you on today to talk about
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We have done two specials on, on Fauci and his lies in regards of gain of function research.
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How is he possibly claiming that this isn't a gain of function research?
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Well, you know, no one's forced him to explain himself.
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He just hurls, you know, ad hominem insults, but he doesn't really explain.
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He says, oh, well, my assistants said it was gain of function research, but people need
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to realize that he's not a disinterested party.
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His interest is in not being associated with gain of function any longer, not being associated
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And most particularly, he doesn't want to attach to himself any responsibility for the
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And he realizes that once it is well known that they were doing gain of function research,
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And once it is realized by everybody that he was funding Wuhan, he is realizing that
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this is starting to stick and also stick to him personally.
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How do you I mean, I don't understand why he would lie about this, because he says you're
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claiming that he's responsible for everybody who has died.
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I hear you say that what they were doing in Wuhan and came out about in 2016 with the
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approval and funding from Fauci was gain of function research.
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But you're not saying that even that that's the same virus that that came out of possibly
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Are you saying that he is directly responsible for what we're saying?
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One very simple, precise thing that the NIH, with Dr. Fauci's approval, funded the lab in
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Wuhan and the lab was doing dangerous gain of function research where you take an animal
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virus or parts of an animal virus or its genes and you merge them with another virus.
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Initially, the animal virus doesn't infect humans.
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But then when you merge these two together, you create a novel virus that's not known in
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This is exactly what the NIH put out in their definition.
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I read the definition as the NIH read it to him.
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He's like, no, no, that's not gain of function.
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But it really begs the question, then what really is gain of function and why is this not?
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But we haven't gotten there because no one in the media that gets to interview him asked
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He was on like with Gayle King and Gayle King's like, oh, what do you think of Rand Paul?
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He's never been asked, why is it not gain of function?
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What is it specifically that causes this research not to be dangerous?
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Quote, I want to start with another kind of misinformation, the constant MAGA media and
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Republican lawmaker attacks on health experts, especially Dr.
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And I'm not even going to get into the details of what Senator Paul was attacking there and
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And see, the thing is, is 4 million people died.
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CNN's been, you know, trying to make money off of this pandemic for two years.
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And yet they don't want to go to the heart of the matter.
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And did it start from gain of function research?
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Is this the kind of research the taxpayers should fund?
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Is there a danger that we could have another outbreak of an even worse virus from a lab
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They you know, this is the problem with groupthink.
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We now live in a society of groupthink where the government funds all of the scientists.
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So they're definitely afraid of having their funding taken.
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I mean, it's amazing what's going on in the media that when you read the AP story of this,
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They have decided there's only one side that's in print.
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And none of our defense was printed at all by the Associated Press.
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Rand, I mean, I commend you for being as clear headed and clear eyed as you are on this,
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It is it is so clear when you look at the documentation and you I mean, here's Peter
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Fauci and given money for gain of research or gain of function research at the Wuhan lab.
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We just don't happen to have it right now, but he's on videotape in 2016 explaining it,
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explaining what's going on and defining it as gain of function research.
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How anyone can deny this is truly, truly remarkable.
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And he says, yes, it's possible that a researcher can get one of these viruses,
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He actually uses those words, but he says, you know, in that instance, the research would
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still be worthwhile, even if a pandemic occurred.
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So the question really ought to be for CNN and all these people who love this crisis ought
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Fauci, is it worth the four million lives to have this scientific research?
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He was also asking the Judiciary Committee about a month ago, do you still trust the Chinese
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So really, these are judgment calls that should preclude him from being in any position of
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You know, gain of function research is not worth four million lives.
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And actually, they're working with viruses that could cause 60 million lives.
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And I'd say, why don't we ask some of the families of people who died in the pandemic,
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I have to tell you, I, you know, I don't know where I stand on gain of function research.
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I think that here in America, in a bio level lab that's, you know, bio level four, possibly
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But we are dealing with extraordinarily dangerous things.
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We we developed humanizing humanized lungs in mice.
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And exactly we were we I believe we sent that technology over to Wuhan to the lab.
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And in the summer of 19, they were trying to infect those mice with Corona virus.
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Then two months later, you have three people going to the hospital with Corona like Corona
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And that's two months before the pandemic starts.
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So as far as gain of function research in our country, I think that we should have research
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And we need this biosecurity level for labs to do it.
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So I'm not against researching deadly pathogens that exist in nature.
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I'm against creating new deadly pathogens that don't exist in nature in the lab, because
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I think that that you can't have perfection as far as them not leaking from the lab.
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And they're they're experimenting with the SARS virus, which had to say 15 percent mortality.
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And the good news about SARS back in 2004 was 15 percent mortality, but it wasn't very
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But the all the experiments are doing is taking the SARS virus, which isn't very transmissible,
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adding new S proteins from other coronaviruses and then making it more transmissible.
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It's the definition of a really just a wrongheaded notion to create things that are more transmissible
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The House is they killed a bill yesterday that would have required the the White House to
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declassify intelligence related to the origins of covid-19, the virus.
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And they're now saying that we need to keep all of this stuff secret.
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Do you do you think you win this and do we ever really know the truth?
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I think that it's amazing and people would be aghast to know that Dr. Fauci has made secret
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So the names of the people on the committee are secret to people who approve this research.
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And then the other problem is that sometimes they don't even put like a doctor.
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Dr. Xi's research never went before the committee.
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And I guarantee at some point there is some paperwork somewhere and they'll never reveal
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it where Dr. Fauci approves an exemption for Dr. Xi where there's a discussion.
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Is this gain of function and whether an exemption is given?
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I think they probably gave an exemption rather than say it wasn't gain of function when they
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did this back in 2017 because it wasn't as big a controversy.
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But to get to that information, you'd have to have a friendly administration.
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The only reason we found out about General Flynn and all the unmasking was because Rick
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You're going to have to get somebody at a top level who would actually declassify this
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Don't we don't we know that they did know that it was gain of function?
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I mean, in that in that first email, I'm looking for it here.
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But in that first email where, you know, Fauci is freaking out in that report, it says that
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this happened before the ban was in place and then it was approved, reviewed and approved
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When Fauci first finds out about this, is your right alarm urgency?
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He sends to his assistant, oh, my God, look at this paper.
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She and Barak, and it involves gain of function research.
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His people respond going, oh, my goodness, it's gain of function research.
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But then to the public, they say nothing to see here before.
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It's fortunate that we know it had nothing to do with the lab and you're a conspiracy
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It's their friends in social media then going along.
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I find it almost humorous but really sad that now Facebook has now decided that you can
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After nine months of them saying you couldn't because it was disinformation, now all of a
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sudden it's information again because Facebook says it can be information again.
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And it's dangerous to quote you or now to present the evidence that we're presenting that Fauci
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Ren, you know, one of the things I don't even know if you thought of this, but one of the
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things that shows me how afraid they are of this is they haven't brought Donald Trump into
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And here's why I say that it was Barack Obama that banned this kind of research.
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Twenty seventeen and said we can do the kind of function research.
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I mean, if you if you really if you go by their playbook, Donald Trump is responsible for
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And they don't even want to talk about this to the point to accuse him complicated than
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I don't think Trump had any knowledge of this opening back up.
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There's no presidential seal on opening up gain of function again.
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So but the thing is, is it really doesn't have to be partisan.
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My goal is to make sure it never happens again.
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And but also the thing is, is we shouldn't have someone at the top of the food chain
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making these decisions who trust the site, trust the Chinese completely.
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Yeah, they'll trust them three weeks ago and who believes that this research is worth
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I can't believe that, you know, all his defenders, CNN, MSNBC, that statement is horrifying that
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he believes that even a pandemic is worth it for this research.
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We're not going to get the information from government.
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But what I've been advocating is that we impanel a group of scientists and ask the question,
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But the thing is, is then we'll have a debate over, you know, whether he's telling the truth
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It's hard to find the scientists, though, because they're all on payroll at the NIA.
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I also wonder, I've never seen anybody treat a senator, I mean, except for like the McCarthy
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I've not seen somebody so arrogant knowing that you guys have the power to, you know,
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You are now saying that you are going to drop papers to give to the Justice Department.
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Do you really think the Justice Department is going to do anything about it?
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We don't have a great deal of hope that they will.
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But the reason I did send the referral over yesterday with the allegations and with the
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facts of where he's not being honest, because the thing is, is we need to try to win this
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We need to win the battle on the facts so it doesn't happen again.
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And also so he doesn't keep giving terrible advice to, you know, he was on TV saying that
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You talk about disinformation, the masks don't work.
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Ninety percent of the masks don't work other than the N95.
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I would say you're an idiot if you say masks work better than a vaccine.
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And yet he and CNN were propagating that lie, which could cost lies.
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But also you can cost lies if you're an elderly person, you're taking care of your spouse
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and you wear a cloth mask around them and they have COVID and you think, oh, Dr.
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But he lied to you because he didn't want you to buy the N95 mask because he thought
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You know, people go to RandPaul.com because they're out after me.
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We've got the woke generation coming out for me.
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