The Glenn Beck Program - October 18, 2023


Best of the Program | Guests: Skip Moen & Andrew Tobin | 10⧸18⧸23


Episode Stats

Length

41 minutes

Words per Minute

138.55566

Word Count

5,798

Sentence Count

353

Misogynist Sentences

6

Hate Speech Sentences

39


Summary

Glenn Beck delivers the latest on what's happening in the House, Israel, and the economy, and how to deal with it all on today's episode of The Glenn Beck Program. Glenn Beck is an American conservative commentator and radio host who has been a fixture on conservative talk radio for decades. He is a frequent contributor to conservative publications such as Accuracy in the Middle East, and has been featured on CNN, Fox News, CBS, NPR, NPR and many other media outlets.


Transcript

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00:01:14.800 You're listening to...
00:01:16.340 The Best of the Glenn Beck Program.
00:01:18.640 I want to talk to you about the shoreline.
00:01:25.120 I want to talk to you...
00:01:26.480 We right now are adrift in a sea of lies and confusion and chaos.
00:01:32.400 And when you find yourself in times of confusion,
00:01:36.420 you have to ask yourself,
00:01:39.680 Is this what I want?
00:01:42.380 Are we getting further away from sanity or closer to it?
00:01:46.380 History shows civilizations do not thrive on whims,
00:01:52.540 but we thrive on unwavering principles and truth.
00:01:58.280 Years ago I said,
00:01:59.720 If you don't stand for something,
00:02:01.920 you will fall for anything.
00:02:04.340 In the grand tapestry of our nation,
00:02:10.840 disagreements are the threads that we weave together.
00:02:16.640 Tax rates, parties, policy debates.
00:02:20.720 We can navigate these.
00:02:23.200 But when we start dismantling the bedrock
00:02:26.340 on which our nation was built,
00:02:28.540 when we start tampering with the eternal truths,
00:02:33.400 we risk the entire structure collapsing.
00:02:36.740 And make no mistake,
00:02:38.420 this is not about Hamas.
00:02:40.520 This is not about Israel.
00:02:42.380 This is not about tax policies.
00:02:46.740 It's not about global warming.
00:02:49.240 This is about the entire structure
00:02:52.880 coming down by design.
00:02:55.440 Consider this.
00:03:01.100 No matter how grand or opulent or how great,
00:03:05.320 how wonderful,
00:03:08.680 your house is,
00:03:10.840 if it is not built on a strong foundation,
00:03:14.900 it's not going to last.
00:03:18.180 If that foundation
00:03:19.500 is universal principles
00:03:22.920 like the sanctity of life
00:03:25.160 or the simple truths
00:03:27.360 found in the guidelines
00:03:29.100 like the Ten Commandments,
00:03:31.700 then you have something solid to build on.
00:03:34.020 If not,
00:03:35.380 it's a house of cards
00:03:36.620 and the next breeze
00:03:38.020 will send it tumbling.
00:03:39.800 Our bedrock,
00:03:43.380 our house has been built on bedrock
00:03:45.580 that was so strong,
00:03:47.180 it has taken decades
00:03:50.200 to get us into this weak position.
00:03:54.280 And you know what?
00:03:55.280 America may not survive.
00:03:57.500 But those truths,
00:03:59.240 those principles,
00:04:00.460 will.
00:04:02.340 And maybe it's just going to be
00:04:03.440 just a few of us
00:04:04.220 living by those principles
00:04:06.520 that refuse to give in.
00:04:08.220 We are now lost
00:04:13.640 in so many different things.
00:04:16.700 The debates on the House Speaker,
00:04:19.540 what the hell is happening there?
00:04:22.120 Do you realize Rome is burning?
00:04:25.620 We're lost in the debates now
00:04:28.120 on who's going to be the Speaker.
00:04:31.580 And we're now arguing
00:04:33.620 about which one of these two guys
00:04:37.560 that would both be okay.
00:04:41.160 Which one
00:04:42.100 is going to be our savior?
00:04:43.840 None of them is going to be our savior.
00:04:45.700 None of them.
00:04:46.400 You know why?
00:04:48.000 Because we,
00:04:49.240 the people,
00:04:50.080 are not serious about things.
00:04:52.520 We're not serious about it.
00:04:54.480 We have $33 trillion
00:04:56.740 in debt.
00:04:59.100 And if we were serious about it,
00:05:01.780 then our elected officials
00:05:03.620 would be more serious about it.
00:05:05.480 But we just think
00:05:09.720 we can have it all.
00:05:11.440 We're drowning in this debt.
00:05:14.500 And Republicans,
00:05:15.720 Democrats,
00:05:16.540 I mean,
00:05:16.800 Democrats are actually
00:05:18.040 lighting the fires.
00:05:20.180 Republicans are just,
00:05:21.320 you know,
00:05:22.700 playing the fiddle
00:05:23.980 while Rome burns.
00:05:26.120 And what happens?
00:05:28.320 As we waste this time,
00:05:31.020 what happens?
00:05:33.600 You're building the story
00:05:35.160 that Republicans
00:05:36.420 don't know how to rule.
00:05:38.160 Republicans can't.
00:05:39.800 Republicans can't take
00:05:40.900 anything seriously.
00:05:42.100 They'll never get anything done.
00:05:44.260 Why will they say that?
00:05:45.480 Because in a very few short weeks,
00:05:47.540 we're going to come up
00:05:48.460 with another budget impasse.
00:05:51.080 And while we're fiddling around
00:05:52.740 trying to figure out
00:05:53.920 who's going to be the leader,
00:05:56.000 what's happening?
00:05:58.400 Nothing.
00:05:58.920 So we'll have a new CR,
00:06:01.020 a blank check
00:06:01.880 to the big and deep state.
00:06:05.500 Our country is drowning in debt.
00:06:07.860 Our citizens are about
00:06:08.960 to experience
00:06:09.880 a greater depression,
00:06:11.320 which most people
00:06:12.320 don't know what it even means
00:06:13.680 because it's never been
00:06:14.780 explained to them.
00:06:17.480 There are no budget cuts
00:06:19.020 that can be considered.
00:06:20.220 It's all just,
00:06:21.480 we have to spend all of it.
00:06:24.560 Instead of seeking the shore,
00:06:26.780 we're told we can fund two wars.
00:06:30.020 We can do that.
00:06:30.580 That's what the Treasury Department
00:06:31.560 said yesterday.
00:06:32.280 We, of course we can.
00:06:34.140 Really?
00:06:35.800 Meanwhile, there's no budget cuts
00:06:37.440 because we got the two wars,
00:06:38.740 but we also have to continue
00:06:40.240 the study,
00:06:40.920 and I'm not making this up,
00:06:42.340 of the lesbian vagina
00:06:44.220 in the Congo.
00:06:47.040 Yeah, there's no budget cuts.
00:06:50.800 Dwight D. Eisenhower
00:06:51.840 told us about this.
00:06:52.960 Now, he was a military man,
00:06:54.560 a military man,
00:06:55.660 and in his farewell address,
00:06:57.240 everybody remembers him
00:06:58.480 warning of the undue influence
00:07:01.700 of the military industrial complex,
00:07:04.140 but that's not just what he said.
00:07:06.920 He said the military,
00:07:08.680 scientific,
00:07:09.480 and educational industrial complex.
00:07:12.420 He cautioned us
00:07:13.580 about the potential rise
00:07:15.080 of a disastrous rise
00:07:16.740 of misplaced power
00:07:18.620 that the military,
00:07:21.400 the science,
00:07:22.360 and the educational systems
00:07:24.660 would all be gathered
00:07:26.480 around money,
00:07:28.760 and they would serve
00:07:30.380 the master of money
00:07:31.900 through the government,
00:07:33.460 and we're seeing it.
00:07:36.160 We're also seeing
00:07:37.420 this ugly head rise up
00:07:40.340 in what used to be called
00:07:41.260 the free marketplace.
00:07:43.060 I want you to listen to something,
00:07:44.580 a show I did in 2011
00:07:47.140 while I was still at Fox.
00:07:49.340 Listen to this.
00:07:49.960 There are three groups of people,
00:07:52.260 three groups of people,
00:07:53.980 that want a new world order.
00:07:56.520 One, this is your choice.
00:07:58.620 One, one world government.
00:08:00.380 This is open society,
00:08:01.860 this is the United Nations,
00:08:03.420 whatever you want to call it,
00:08:04.440 one world government.
00:08:05.520 They have lots of money,
00:08:07.240 lots of power,
00:08:08.280 and they have NGOs,
00:08:11.480 non-governmental organizations.
00:08:13.500 They're getting that one done.
00:08:14.440 They're organized.
00:08:15.720 This one,
00:08:16.480 this is the caliphate
00:08:17.860 if you're in Iran or Turkey.
00:08:20.440 This one is the
00:08:21.160 United Islamic Nations.
00:08:22.800 This is the one
00:08:23.280 the Muslim Brotherhood
00:08:24.120 is going for now.
00:08:25.460 But it'll all look like this.
00:08:26.660 It's a new world order.
00:08:28.240 You know,
00:08:28.460 and they have,
00:08:29.040 they're organized too.
00:08:29.760 They have the religion
00:08:30.780 and the mosques,
00:08:32.120 and apparently help
00:08:33.020 from Google as well,
00:08:34.900 at least in Europe,
00:08:36.540 or I mean,
00:08:36.860 I'm sorry,
00:08:37.240 in Egypt.
00:08:37.980 And then you have this one,
00:08:39.300 workers' union,
00:08:40.360 or they call it
00:08:41.200 state capitalism.
00:08:43.160 Really what it is
00:08:44.040 is just good old-fashioned
00:08:45.280 communism.
00:08:46.580 They have the unions
00:08:47.760 and community organizing,
00:08:49.380 but they're organized.
00:08:50.500 They're moving forward.
00:08:52.120 As George Soros told me,
00:08:54.420 there is already,
00:08:55.920 the ship has sailed
00:08:57.200 and it is moving on.
00:08:58.340 Really, has it?
00:09:00.240 Well,
00:09:00.680 these three are sailing.
00:09:02.780 They are sailing.
00:09:04.320 What I told you at the time
00:09:06.160 is happening right now.
00:09:08.700 You've got the Islamists,
00:09:11.360 you have the communists
00:09:12.480 and the socialists,
00:09:13.860 and you have
00:09:16.460 the one world order people
00:09:19.260 all coming together,
00:09:21.120 working together.
00:09:22.660 Did you see that in Los Angeles,
00:09:25.500 the Palestinian signs
00:09:26.980 were not just
00:09:28.340 in support of Hamas,
00:09:30.420 but also for DEI?
00:09:33.340 What?
00:09:34.340 What?
00:09:34.560 What?
00:09:34.840 How's that happening?
00:09:37.800 They're all working together.
00:09:41.020 Now,
00:09:41.220 what is in our national interest,
00:09:42.860 America?
00:09:48.820 A war?
00:09:50.560 No.
00:09:54.480 A return to truth,
00:09:56.760 and that doesn't cost
00:09:58.320 a dime.
00:09:59.780 It's a treacherous path
00:10:03.700 when government
00:10:04.300 forgets its proper role,
00:10:06.140 and we allow
00:10:07.880 the weeds of chaos
00:10:09.580 to strangle the roots
00:10:12.160 of our foundational principles.
00:10:15.460 Water will wet.
00:10:17.440 Fire will burn.
00:10:19.500 That is always true.
00:10:21.640 These are unwavering,
00:10:23.240 undeniable truths,
00:10:24.880 and just like these truths,
00:10:26.320 they are principles
00:10:28.240 that the nation
00:10:29.440 was built on.
00:10:32.060 Being the United States,
00:10:34.220 United States,
00:10:35.480 is not just a title.
00:10:36.780 It's a declaration.
00:10:38.180 It's a promise.
00:10:39.160 It's a commitment
00:10:39.940 to come together
00:10:41.480 despite our differences.
00:10:43.720 But that is not
00:10:45.340 possible
00:10:46.540 if you don't
00:10:48.300 have principles.
00:10:52.120 If you don't
00:10:53.300 have principles,
00:10:54.680 what are you coming around?
00:10:56.000 What is bringing you together?
00:10:59.240 It's really not hard,
00:11:01.480 but it requires you
00:11:03.060 to sift through the noise,
00:11:04.860 through the chaos.
00:11:05.900 It demands that we reject
00:11:07.760 the falsehoods,
00:11:09.220 the deception,
00:11:10.340 and the lies.
00:11:12.100 To unite,
00:11:13.920 we have to remember
00:11:15.260 the things
00:11:16.060 that our grandparents
00:11:17.260 and our great-grandparents,
00:11:18.880 all the way down
00:11:19.520 to our pilgrims,
00:11:20.400 held dear.
00:11:21.220 because if we want
00:11:23.580 to be the beacon
00:11:24.480 of hope,
00:11:25.660 the symbol
00:11:26.180 of freedom,
00:11:27.480 hell,
00:11:28.300 if we just want
00:11:29.580 our children
00:11:30.100 not to be slaves,
00:11:32.080 then we have to
00:11:33.060 anchor ourselves
00:11:34.040 to universal principles.
00:11:38.800 I'm sorry,
00:11:39.740 I know it's very
00:11:40.440 fashionable to say
00:11:41.840 all kinds of lies
00:11:43.780 today.
00:11:44.760 I know it's very
00:11:45.840 fashionable to be
00:11:46.880 open-minded
00:11:47.620 and say,
00:11:48.240 well,
00:11:48.520 I don't know,
00:11:49.260 Hamas,
00:11:49.840 what don't you know
00:11:51.980 about Hamas?
00:11:52.960 What don't you know
00:11:54.440 about Hamas?
00:11:55.360 And what don't you know
00:11:56.660 about Israel?
00:11:58.260 Israel is exactly
00:11:59.700 like us.
00:12:00.900 They're good sometimes,
00:12:02.200 bad sometimes.
00:12:04.060 Hamas,
00:12:05.100 bad.
00:12:06.180 Always.
00:12:07.700 Always.
00:12:08.920 They are a culture
00:12:09.940 of death,
00:12:11.140 and we have embraced
00:12:12.980 a culture of death.
00:12:17.680 We've got to find
00:12:18.520 our way back
00:12:18.980 to the truth.
00:12:20.840 We have to hold
00:12:21.800 fast to the principles
00:12:22.940 that have stood
00:12:23.700 the test of time,
00:12:24.780 our Declaration
00:12:25.300 of Independence,
00:12:26.200 our Constitution,
00:12:27.240 and our Bill of Rights.
00:12:28.920 If we don't,
00:12:30.120 we are going to be
00:12:31.220 swept up in the
00:12:32.240 winds of change.
00:12:37.700 As you look
00:12:38.620 at the news today,
00:12:40.480 remember,
00:12:41.960 principles
00:12:42.440 and truths
00:12:43.560 are not
00:12:44.740 just words.
00:12:46.480 they are the bedrock
00:12:48.880 of our civilization.
00:12:50.100 And as we ponder
00:12:52.240 our path forward,
00:12:53.640 let's make sure
00:12:56.260 we're looking
00:12:57.560 past the fancy,
00:12:59.980 old-timey,
00:13:01.780 dusty words
00:13:03.020 and look at those words
00:13:06.260 and find the
00:13:07.440 underlying,
00:13:09.800 meaningful,
00:13:10.440 and everlasting
00:13:13.860 truths.
00:13:17.500 That is what
00:13:18.740 will make us
00:13:19.440 united
00:13:20.220 and unshakable.
00:13:22.720 you're listening
00:13:23.880 to the best
00:13:24.680 of the Glenn Beck
00:13:25.400 program.
00:13:25.860 As we approach
00:13:29.000 the renewing
00:13:31.620 of the American
00:13:32.900 Covenant,
00:13:33.760 which was done
00:13:34.520 by George Washington,
00:13:35.700 our pilgrims,
00:13:36.760 and Abraham Lincoln,
00:13:38.720 that is happening
00:13:39.960 on this program
00:13:41.060 the week
00:13:41.700 before Thanksgiving.
00:13:43.460 I invite you to join.
00:13:44.460 You can find out
00:13:44.920 all the information
00:13:45.660 at glennbeck.com.
00:13:47.460 Just look for
00:13:48.240 the 40 Days and Nights
00:13:49.720 program
00:13:50.640 right on the front page.
00:13:52.520 Skip Moen
00:13:53.000 is with us.
00:13:54.220 He was on with us
00:13:56.000 a couple of weeks ago.
00:13:57.000 He was fascinating
00:13:58.060 talking about how
00:14:00.000 the Beatitudes
00:14:01.280 have been mistranslated
00:14:02.440 and it's so much
00:14:04.480 more beautiful
00:14:05.240 and deep
00:14:05.960 the way
00:14:06.520 he has explained it.
00:14:08.660 But we wanted
00:14:09.240 to get him on
00:14:10.020 to talk a little bit
00:14:11.360 about good and evil
00:14:12.460 and what is
00:14:14.580 the solution here.
00:14:16.520 He's written
00:14:17.020 a great article.
00:14:18.740 You can find it
00:14:19.400 at skipmoen.com
00:14:20.840 about
00:14:22.720 what the
00:14:24.240 biblical solution is
00:14:25.280 but he says
00:14:25.940 nobody's ever
00:14:26.780 going to want to do it
00:14:27.700 but I don't know.
00:14:29.540 I think we've tried
00:14:30.220 everything else.
00:14:30.900 Maybe we should go
00:14:31.460 with God's plan.
00:14:32.800 Skip, welcome.
00:14:34.820 Thank you, Glenn.
00:14:35.820 And yeah,
00:14:36.160 it's a good idea.
00:14:36.900 Let's go with God's plan.
00:14:38.100 Yeah.
00:14:38.760 So
00:14:39.200 the solution
00:14:41.680 to the
00:14:42.660 inhumanity
00:14:43.580 of
00:14:44.120 humans
00:14:47.060 or Hamas
00:14:47.780 in this case.
00:14:48.520 Yeah.
00:14:51.240 You know,
00:14:51.800 I'd like to
00:14:52.460 make a little
00:14:53.680 caveat first.
00:14:54.680 I have
00:14:55.560 never been to Gaza.
00:14:57.100 I've been to Israel
00:14:58.160 many times.
00:14:59.080 I have friends
00:14:59.600 who live there.
00:15:00.300 I know a lot of rabbis
00:15:01.360 there.
00:15:01.600 I've been to the West Bank
00:15:03.020 and so my perspective
00:15:04.900 will be,
00:15:06.620 you know,
00:15:07.240 on the side
00:15:08.040 of Israel's
00:15:09.560 struggle
00:15:10.020 against this evil
00:15:11.820 in order for them
00:15:12.800 to have peace.
00:15:14.260 I recognize
00:15:15.240 that there are
00:15:15.900 huge humanitarian
00:15:17.000 issues,
00:15:17.940 but I think
00:15:19.460 that we have
00:15:20.220 to back up
00:15:21.140 a little bit
00:15:21.700 and remember
00:15:22.620 that this
00:15:23.280 conflict
00:15:24.280 really isn't
00:15:25.800 a conflict
00:15:26.340 about the
00:15:27.220 issues of
00:15:28.620 Gaza
00:15:29.360 and its
00:15:29.920 political
00:15:30.560 and social
00:15:31.200 environment.
00:15:31.880 It's a conflict
00:15:32.840 between
00:15:33.460 those who wish
00:15:35.160 to exterminate
00:15:37.040 the Jew
00:15:37.660 at any cost,
00:15:39.380 the real enemy,
00:15:40.380 the evil part
00:15:41.280 of that,
00:15:41.860 and the rest
00:15:43.040 of the world.
00:15:43.700 It's not just
00:15:44.720 about Israel.
00:15:45.880 It's about
00:15:46.280 do we allow
00:15:47.600 humans
00:15:49.020 who are
00:15:50.200 absolutely
00:15:50.960 intent
00:15:51.640 on the
00:15:52.240 obliteration
00:15:54.200 of an entire
00:15:55.900 ethnic group
00:15:57.220 or race
00:15:57.960 or whatever
00:15:58.440 it happens to be,
00:15:59.300 do we allow
00:15:59.900 them to continue
00:16:01.580 or do we stand
00:16:02.760 up and do
00:16:03.280 something about it?
00:16:04.220 Well,
00:16:04.340 why is it
00:16:04.920 that we always
00:16:05.600 seem to get
00:16:06.280 to this place
00:16:07.180 and then
00:16:07.860 we turn a blind eye?
00:16:09.460 For instance,
00:16:10.580 this is what
00:16:10.880 happened in
00:16:11.500 Germany.
00:16:12.540 Hitler was
00:16:14.580 very clear
00:16:15.080 on what
00:16:15.360 he was
00:16:15.600 going to
00:16:15.820 do,
00:16:16.280 but then
00:16:17.060 he hid
00:16:17.500 it.
00:16:18.100 These people
00:16:18.640 aren't
00:16:18.980 hiding it.
00:16:20.840 It is in
00:16:21.780 their mission
00:16:22.800 statements,
00:16:23.520 their charter,
00:16:24.400 they say it
00:16:25.100 all the time.
00:16:26.040 People who
00:16:26.540 are protesting
00:16:27.120 for them
00:16:27.960 on the streets
00:16:28.740 all over the
00:16:29.340 world are
00:16:29.820 saying,
00:16:30.420 you know,
00:16:30.940 death to
00:16:31.360 the Jews,
00:16:32.220 death to
00:16:32.640 Israel,
00:16:33.440 gas the
00:16:33.920 Jews,
00:16:34.980 and yet
00:16:35.520 we always
00:16:36.700 seem to
00:16:37.800 say,
00:16:38.540 well,
00:16:38.740 no,
00:16:39.720 they don't
00:16:40.140 really mean
00:16:40.720 that.
00:16:42.660 You know,
00:16:43.480 I think
00:16:43.840 that is
00:16:45.000 definitely
00:16:45.360 part of
00:16:45.740 the problem,
00:16:46.240 but that
00:16:46.620 comes about
00:16:47.860 because I
00:16:48.320 think in
00:16:48.820 the modern
00:16:51.180 Western world
00:16:52.120 we have
00:16:53.260 succumbed
00:16:54.040 to the
00:16:55.840 Enlightenment
00:16:57.320 delusion
00:16:58.180 of the
00:16:59.120 goodness
00:16:59.400 of all
00:16:59.920 men,
00:17:00.760 and we
00:17:01.280 have been
00:17:01.780 lulled to
00:17:02.440 sleep by
00:17:03.280 a church
00:17:03.940 that has
00:17:04.420 preached
00:17:04.820 God as
00:17:05.400 love
00:17:05.920 without
00:17:07.020 talking about
00:17:08.000 the other
00:17:08.360 side of the
00:17:08.780 coin.
00:17:09.340 I mean,
00:17:09.580 the biblical
00:17:10.720 model is
00:17:11.320 pretty clear.
00:17:12.200 God is
00:17:13.040 love,
00:17:13.600 and he
00:17:14.220 expects
00:17:15.060 people to
00:17:16.280 respond to
00:17:18.420 that love
00:17:19.100 with a
00:17:19.620 kind of
00:17:20.340 character
00:17:21.180 and society
00:17:22.260 that reflects
00:17:23.980 his character
00:17:24.940 in society.
00:17:25.740 But the
00:17:26.740 point is
00:17:27.340 that there
00:17:28.500 is another
00:17:28.900 side of the
00:17:29.460 coin,
00:17:29.900 and the
00:17:31.000 principal
00:17:31.880 examples of
00:17:32.900 that in
00:17:33.220 the biblical
00:17:33.620 world are
00:17:34.620 the flood,
00:17:35.500 Sodom and
00:17:35.980 Gomorrah,
00:17:36.920 what happens
00:17:37.360 to Elimelech,
00:17:38.300 there are
00:17:40.220 plenty of
00:17:41.200 examples of
00:17:43.600 harsh judgment
00:17:45.040 when it's
00:17:47.520 determined that
00:17:48.420 the population
00:17:49.940 is beyond
00:17:50.760 redemptive
00:17:51.540 qualities,
00:17:52.440 that it no
00:17:52.860 longer exhibits
00:17:53.740 those kinds
00:17:54.860 of behaviors
00:17:56.520 that qualify
00:17:57.540 them as part
00:17:59.020 of human
00:17:59.400 society.
00:18:00.480 And I think
00:18:00.980 when we see
00:18:01.440 that happen,
00:18:02.660 you know,
00:18:02.980 we are,
00:18:04.120 I mean,
00:18:04.940 clearly God
00:18:05.620 takes care of
00:18:06.500 some of
00:18:06.740 that stuff
00:18:07.200 in the
00:18:07.480 Bible,
00:18:07.780 and I
00:18:08.520 think we
00:18:09.040 as men
00:18:10.580 who want
00:18:11.080 to,
00:18:11.440 men and
00:18:11.840 women who
00:18:12.160 want to
00:18:12.400 reflect his
00:18:12.920 character,
00:18:13.300 we have to
00:18:13.640 do the
00:18:13.900 same.
00:18:14.180 We have
00:18:14.440 to remember
00:18:14.940 that this
00:18:16.160 isn't just,
00:18:16.960 you know,
00:18:18.240 an issue
00:18:18.640 over some
00:18:19.280 humanitarian
00:18:19.840 crisis,
00:18:20.400 this is an
00:18:21.100 issue about
00:18:21.700 whether or
00:18:22.160 not,
00:18:23.020 you know,
00:18:23.260 we have the
00:18:24.240 fortitude to
00:18:25.660 stand up for
00:18:26.280 what's right.
00:18:28.220 Or if we
00:18:29.060 even know
00:18:29.480 what's right
00:18:29.880 anymore.
00:18:30.340 the judgment
00:18:32.480 comes harsher
00:18:34.040 on those
00:18:34.900 who claim,
00:18:36.040 I think,
00:18:36.640 to be on
00:18:38.020 the side of
00:18:38.840 the God of
00:18:39.640 Abraham,
00:18:40.060 Isaac,
00:18:40.280 and Jacob
00:18:40.820 when they
00:18:41.580 fail than
00:18:43.880 it does
00:18:44.400 even sometimes
00:18:45.260 on the
00:18:45.620 enemies.
00:18:46.440 They seem
00:18:47.340 to continue
00:18:48.260 to go on,
00:18:49.180 but the
00:18:51.400 nations,
00:18:52.580 and I'm
00:18:52.800 speaking here
00:18:53.400 of ours and
00:18:54.200 Israel,
00:18:55.020 the nations
00:18:55.680 that make
00:18:57.200 a covenant
00:18:57.620 with God
00:18:58.220 and claim
00:18:59.160 to be on
00:18:59.900 God's side,
00:19:01.180 when they
00:19:02.120 stop,
00:19:03.340 they're allowed
00:19:04.060 to feel the
00:19:04.720 full repercussions
00:19:06.280 of what
00:19:07.680 they've sown.
00:19:09.540 Yeah,
00:19:10.260 you know,
00:19:10.940 I think,
00:19:11.460 again,
00:19:11.800 it's a
00:19:12.400 problem with
00:19:14.780 our current
00:19:16.520 theology that
00:19:17.580 teaches us
00:19:18.200 that God is
00:19:18.760 loving,
00:19:19.220 he loves
00:19:19.460 everyone,
00:19:19.980 and we
00:19:20.200 should love
00:19:20.600 everyone,
00:19:21.200 and we've
00:19:21.620 forgotten
00:19:22.040 the element
00:19:23.580 of wrath
00:19:24.440 that comes
00:19:25.160 along behind
00:19:25.920 that,
00:19:26.240 that says,
00:19:27.040 you know,
00:19:27.980 there is
00:19:28.340 responsibility
00:19:29.060 toward peace
00:19:32.060 and loving
00:19:33.980 kindness
00:19:34.460 toward others,
00:19:35.060 and when
00:19:35.440 you fail
00:19:36.060 in that,
00:19:37.060 there's a
00:19:37.600 judgment
00:19:37.900 that comes.
00:19:38.960 You know,
00:19:39.480 it reminds
00:19:40.700 me,
00:19:41.000 Glenn,
00:19:41.240 of the
00:19:42.100 terrible
00:19:42.720 decision
00:19:43.920 that Truman
00:19:44.480 had to
00:19:44.920 make in
00:19:45.840 dropping the
00:19:46.380 atomic bomb
00:19:46.920 on Japan.
00:19:47.720 I mean,
00:19:48.700 certainly there
00:19:49.940 were humanitarian
00:19:50.740 issues involved,
00:19:53.100 but it was
00:19:53.620 also,
00:19:54.580 in a split
00:19:55.540 second,
00:19:56.380 the end
00:19:56.920 of the
00:19:57.200 war.
00:19:57.940 I mean,
00:19:58.280 it just
00:19:59.020 finished
00:19:59.800 everything
00:20:00.740 that needed
00:20:02.640 to be
00:20:03.220 stopped in
00:20:04.100 order for
00:20:04.460 the war
00:20:04.900 to not
00:20:05.660 continue on
00:20:06.800 and on
00:20:07.140 and on
00:20:07.580 in a slow
00:20:09.160 way,
00:20:09.600 and I
00:20:09.920 think that
00:20:10.580 Israel faces
00:20:12.220 the same
00:20:12.720 thing.
00:20:13.040 You cannot
00:20:13.520 allow an
00:20:15.320 organization,
00:20:16.580 as you said,
00:20:17.380 whose very
00:20:17.840 constitution
00:20:18.680 calls for
00:20:19.860 the obliteration
00:20:20.840 of every
00:20:21.260 one of
00:20:21.680 your citizens,
00:20:23.300 that isn't
00:20:24.080 society.
00:20:25.020 That's a
00:20:25.820 culture of
00:20:27.520 death.
00:20:28.320 And that's
00:20:28.560 also why
00:20:32.660 the rest
00:20:33.300 of the
00:20:34.320 Arab world
00:20:35.000 will not
00:20:35.780 take them
00:20:36.220 in,
00:20:37.240 because
00:20:37.700 every time
00:20:39.340 they come
00:20:39.820 in,
00:20:40.200 there's a
00:20:40.620 civil war
00:20:41.220 in their
00:20:41.620 nation,
00:20:42.680 and it's
00:20:44.420 a seed
00:20:45.460 of chaos.
00:20:46.180 So what
00:20:46.860 are you
00:20:47.140 saying,
00:20:47.900 that Israel
00:20:50.620 just goes
00:20:51.640 until there's
00:20:52.700 nothing left?
00:20:54.080 you know,
00:20:56.360 I don't
00:20:56.760 want people
00:20:57.840 to be
00:20:58.360 confused
00:20:58.960 about the
00:20:59.740 Palestinian
00:21:01.940 people who
00:21:03.720 are not
00:21:04.440 subject or
00:21:05.800 part of
00:21:06.580 the Hamas
00:21:07.200 movement,
00:21:07.680 because certainly
00:21:08.280 there are
00:21:08.760 some.
00:21:09.520 The problem
00:21:10.060 is sorting
00:21:10.720 it out.
00:21:11.720 The problem
00:21:12.180 is that
00:21:12.680 Hamas
00:21:13.380 controls that
00:21:14.820 environment in
00:21:15.800 such a way
00:21:16.320 that they
00:21:17.860 use those
00:21:18.960 people to
00:21:20.520 accomplish their
00:21:21.460 own purposes
00:21:22.240 as well.
00:21:22.780 you can't,
00:21:24.660 you know,
00:21:25.180 it's not
00:21:25.920 possible to
00:21:28.000 eradicate
00:21:29.160 Hamas without
00:21:30.560 collateral
00:21:31.160 damage.
00:21:31.880 It just
00:21:32.280 isn't possible
00:21:33.120 because of the
00:21:33.760 way that they
00:21:34.300 operate,
00:21:35.180 right?
00:21:35.880 But the
00:21:37.220 point is,
00:21:37.800 you have to
00:21:38.460 eradicate them.
00:21:39.460 If you
00:21:39.800 don't,
00:21:40.760 you will,
00:21:41.840 you know,
00:21:42.380 you remember
00:21:42.880 when Joshua
00:21:44.720 mistakenly makes
00:21:45.960 a treaty with
00:21:47.100 a group of
00:21:47.580 people,
00:21:48.340 God has said
00:21:48.940 to him,
00:21:49.440 listen,
00:21:49.640 I want
00:21:50.080 the land
00:21:50.520 cleaned of
00:21:51.100 all these
00:21:51.440 people so
00:21:52.000 that when
00:21:52.340 even the
00:21:52.800 animals
00:21:53.180 occupy it,
00:21:53.960 there's no
00:21:54.380 corruption.
00:21:55.560 And he
00:21:55.860 mistakenly makes
00:21:57.080 a treaty with
00:21:57.820 people who
00:21:58.320 misrepresent who
00:21:59.540 they are,
00:22:00.120 and he makes
00:22:00.660 a covenant
00:22:01.100 with them,
00:22:01.840 and then he
00:22:02.360 keeps that
00:22:02.800 promise.
00:22:03.180 And of
00:22:03.400 course,
00:22:03.920 what happens
00:22:04.800 is,
00:22:05.480 over the
00:22:05.860 next
00:22:06.140 generations,
00:22:07.600 that mistake
00:22:08.700 grows and
00:22:09.820 fosters an
00:22:10.800 entire resident
00:22:13.400 population within
00:22:14.800 the land that
00:22:16.240 causes nothing
00:22:17.220 but chaos and
00:22:18.100 destruction from
00:22:18.820 that point on.
00:22:19.640 And I think
00:22:20.400 that's what
00:22:21.120 Israel faces
00:22:21.880 here.
00:22:22.800 If they don't
00:22:24.040 exterminate this
00:22:25.160 issue,
00:22:25.960 it will continue.
00:22:27.240 It will just
00:22:27.780 spring up
00:22:29.220 someplace else.
00:22:29.980 And your
00:22:30.160 point...
00:22:30.700 Okay,
00:22:30.980 hang on just a
00:22:31.540 second,
00:22:31.780 because you
00:22:32.040 used the word
00:22:32.580 exterminate.
00:22:33.500 I want to
00:22:33.840 make sure
00:22:34.360 exterminate Hamas,
00:22:36.720 not exterminate
00:22:37.860 all Palestinians.
00:22:40.140 Yeah,
00:22:40.840 that's right.
00:22:41.540 You're after Hamas.
00:22:42.560 This is an issue
00:22:43.280 about evil.
00:22:44.600 It's not an
00:22:45.240 issue about
00:22:45.960 people,
00:22:46.840 right?
00:22:47.220 It's an issue
00:22:47.960 about how do
00:22:48.660 you
00:22:49.020 combat true
00:22:50.780 evil in the
00:22:51.540 world.
00:22:51.840 And your
00:22:52.140 point about
00:22:53.100 the Arab
00:22:53.800 nations not
00:22:54.520 wanting them
00:22:55.180 is a really
00:22:55.700 clear indication
00:22:56.880 that there's a
00:22:57.500 real problem
00:22:58.100 here.
00:22:58.540 Right.
00:22:59.080 Not just
00:22:59.560 Israel's
00:23:00.120 problem.
00:23:00.640 Is this any
00:23:01.040 different than
00:23:01.680 what we had
00:23:02.440 in World War
00:23:03.460 II?
00:23:04.060 I mean,
00:23:04.420 with the
00:23:04.740 Nazis?
00:23:05.080 We didn't
00:23:05.580 want to kill
00:23:06.000 all of the
00:23:06.520 Germans,
00:23:06.840 but we'll
00:23:07.920 kill enough
00:23:08.640 of the
00:23:08.900 Germans until
00:23:09.460 they start
00:23:10.120 saying,
00:23:10.740 no,
00:23:11.260 we're not
00:23:12.020 part of
00:23:12.400 this.
00:23:12.680 We want
00:23:13.000 nothing to
00:23:13.600 do with
00:23:14.180 the Nazis.
00:23:14.840 Yeah,
00:23:16.900 I think
00:23:17.360 it's very
00:23:17.940 similar,
00:23:18.700 but there's
00:23:19.520 one important
00:23:20.460 exception,
00:23:21.240 and that is
00:23:21.840 that Germany,
00:23:24.720 the war that
00:23:26.620 Germany started,
00:23:28.320 that Hitler
00:23:29.120 started,
00:23:29.640 was not based
00:23:31.240 in a religious
00:23:31.940 ideal.
00:23:32.580 and Hamas
00:23:34.240 is basically
00:23:35.120 their thinking
00:23:39.380 is basically
00:23:41.340 a religious
00:23:43.540 idea that
00:23:45.020 allows no
00:23:46.020 negotiation,
00:23:47.160 no surrender,
00:23:48.500 and no
00:23:49.480 qualification
00:23:50.840 at all.
00:23:51.840 In other
00:23:52.320 words,
00:23:52.640 they will
00:23:54.260 attempt to
00:23:56.300 achieve their
00:23:56.860 objective no
00:23:57.960 matter what
00:23:58.640 the cost is
00:23:59.400 to the people
00:23:59.900 around them
00:24:00.460 or to
00:24:00.820 themselves,
00:24:01.260 because in
00:24:02.080 their mind
00:24:02.920 there's only
00:24:03.400 one objective,
00:24:05.000 and that's
00:24:05.260 the extermination
00:24:05.980 of all Jews,
00:24:06.880 and it doesn't
00:24:07.640 matter if it
00:24:08.220 takes every
00:24:08.740 single one of
00:24:09.340 them to do
00:24:09.820 it,
00:24:10.360 which is why
00:24:11.080 negotiating or
00:24:12.100 trying to
00:24:12.520 come up with
00:24:13.540 a political
00:24:14.040 solution is
00:24:15.000 never going
00:24:15.460 to work.
00:24:16.060 It just
00:24:16.440 won't happen.
00:24:17.940 Skip,
00:24:18.160 as a Bible
00:24:20.720 scholar,
00:24:22.660 you must
00:24:24.620 see,
00:24:24.960 you know,
00:24:25.300 Gog,
00:24:25.640 Magog,
00:24:26.320 Russia,
00:24:27.260 Iran,
00:24:27.980 never been
00:24:28.740 in an
00:24:29.000 alliance before,
00:24:30.360 they're in
00:24:30.840 an alliance
00:24:31.300 now,
00:24:32.080 the words
00:24:33.000 of those
00:24:33.940 followers in
00:24:35.640 Iran,
00:24:36.220 all of the
00:24:36.780 clerics are
00:24:37.520 what are
00:24:38.040 called
00:24:38.240 twelvers,
00:24:39.560 they believe
00:24:40.460 in the
00:24:40.700 twelfth
00:24:41.100 imam,
00:24:41.640 and I
00:24:42.460 believe their
00:24:43.280 good guy
00:24:44.320 is our
00:24:45.680 bad guy,
00:24:46.960 and our
00:24:47.820 good guy
00:24:48.340 is their
00:24:48.800 bad guy,
00:24:49.900 in their
00:24:51.680 end times
00:24:52.640 philosophies
00:24:53.820 and stories,
00:24:55.000 and they're
00:24:55.480 talking about
00:24:56.400 this is the
00:24:57.260 war to
00:24:58.260 bring in
00:25:00.220 the promised
00:25:00.840 one,
00:25:01.200 they're
00:25:01.600 talking about
00:25:02.260 a war
00:25:02.760 that is
00:25:03.320 biblical
00:25:03.840 in nature,
00:25:04.660 how concerned
00:25:05.800 are you of
00:25:06.420 this getting
00:25:06.960 into a
00:25:07.940 global war
00:25:09.200 and something
00:25:10.200 that at least
00:25:10.840 looks an
00:25:11.480 awful lot
00:25:12.060 like end
00:25:14.200 times kind
00:25:14.860 of predictions?
00:25:15.700 Yeah,
00:25:17.680 certainly there's
00:25:19.440 a concern,
00:25:20.220 because an
00:25:21.760 ideological war
00:25:23.260 doesn't
00:25:24.620 function in
00:25:25.400 the same
00:25:25.740 way that
00:25:26.280 any past
00:25:27.340 war that
00:25:28.080 we're aware
00:25:28.760 of in
00:25:29.020 modern history,
00:25:29.980 right?
00:25:30.180 our wars
00:25:31.200 were all
00:25:31.560 based on
00:25:32.180 basically
00:25:33.200 gain and
00:25:35.380 loss,
00:25:35.980 so we
00:25:36.780 went to
00:25:37.580 war when
00:25:38.100 we thought
00:25:38.760 we could
00:25:39.220 achieve a
00:25:39.920 victory
00:25:40.280 with the
00:25:41.380 reasonable
00:25:41.780 results
00:25:42.540 and have
00:25:44.380 some positive
00:25:45.180 impact for
00:25:46.200 ourselves,
00:25:46.640 but an
00:25:46.980 ideological war
00:25:47.940 doesn't work
00:25:48.460 that way,
00:25:49.040 and as you
00:25:49.440 pointed out,
00:25:50.060 a religious
00:25:50.460 war has
00:25:52.540 a purpose,
00:25:55.400 its only
00:25:55.900 purpose is to
00:25:56.680 fulfill the
00:25:57.220 mission that
00:25:57.660 God gives
00:25:58.180 you,
00:25:58.380 and in
00:26:00.040 this case,
00:26:00.780 if God
00:26:01.240 gives them
00:26:01.920 the mission
00:26:02.400 that means
00:26:03.100 that they
00:26:03.520 will bring
00:26:04.040 about the
00:26:04.900 end of the
00:26:05.520 world,
00:26:06.460 then their
00:26:07.700 eschatological
00:26:08.540 concern really
00:26:10.380 motivates this
00:26:12.560 fervor,
00:26:14.540 this insane
00:26:16.520 behavior,
00:26:19.200 and justifies
00:26:20.760 it all,
00:26:21.220 because in
00:26:21.760 the end,
00:26:22.340 you're cleaning
00:26:23.100 the world
00:26:23.860 for the
00:26:24.900 coming of
00:26:26.040 the 12th
00:26:28.100 mom,
00:26:28.480 or the
00:26:29.460 messiah,
00:26:30.020 right?
00:26:30.400 Yeah,
00:26:30.820 their
00:26:31.000 messiah,
00:26:31.680 not ours.
00:26:32.960 Skip,
00:26:33.640 thank you
00:26:34.780 so much,
00:26:35.440 I appreciate
00:26:35.880 it.
00:26:36.220 If you
00:26:36.440 want to
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00:26:47.180 Andrew Tobin
00:26:47.760 is with us
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00:26:48.480 Hi,
00:26:48.720 Andrew.
00:26:49.640 Hi,
00:26:49.980 Glenn.
00:26:50.120 It is
00:26:51.600 nice to
00:26:53.100 talk to
00:26:54.460 you.
00:26:54.920 First,
00:26:55.340 let's get
00:26:55.680 an update
00:26:56.260 from what's
00:26:58.520 happening there.
00:26:59.240 I know the
00:26:59.540 president just
00:27:00.200 gave a speech
00:27:01.260 to Israel
00:27:01.860 and the
00:27:02.180 world.
00:27:03.160 What does
00:27:03.580 that mean
00:27:04.220 to people
00:27:05.200 who are
00:27:06.080 in Israel,
00:27:07.260 and how
00:27:08.820 is it going
00:27:09.160 to be viewed
00:27:09.760 in the
00:27:10.640 Middle East?
00:27:11.760 Yeah,
00:27:12.060 thank you
00:27:12.640 for having
00:27:12.960 me.
00:27:13.420 Yeah,
00:27:13.640 President
00:27:14.380 Biden just
00:27:15.100 arrived,
00:27:16.160 gave a
00:27:17.260 speech,
00:27:17.760 and he
00:27:18.640 also backed
00:27:21.860 the Israeli
00:27:23.860 take on
00:27:27.860 the blast
00:27:28.560 at the
00:27:29.220 Gaza
00:27:29.780 hospital.
00:27:30.780 He noted
00:27:31.220 that U.S.
00:27:32.740 intelligence
00:27:33.180 also confirmed
00:27:35.060 that Israeli
00:27:35.500 intelligence has
00:27:36.220 concluded that
00:27:36.860 that was an
00:27:39.080 Islamic jihad
00:27:39.820 rocket and
00:27:40.440 not an Israeli
00:27:41.120 rocket,
00:27:41.660 as so many
00:27:42.240 in the
00:27:44.100 international
00:27:44.540 and U.S.
00:27:45.040 media falsely
00:27:46.340 reported.
00:27:47.760 I think
00:27:48.540 that people
00:27:49.080 we've been
00:27:50.040 so far,
00:27:51.240 I think
00:27:51.700 Israelis are
00:27:52.540 skeptical
00:27:52.920 people,
00:27:54.400 and I
00:27:56.900 don't think
00:27:59.220 anyone is
00:28:00.400 expecting the
00:28:01.220 Biden
00:28:01.400 administration
00:28:01.880 to necessarily
00:28:04.900 save Israel,
00:28:06.120 but I think
00:28:06.840 we've so far
00:28:07.400 been,
00:28:07.840 people here
00:28:08.520 have been
00:28:08.760 pleasantly
00:28:09.320 surprised by
00:28:11.580 Biden's
00:28:12.660 backing of
00:28:13.480 Israel,
00:28:13.960 at least
00:28:14.180 rhetorically,
00:28:15.360 given his
00:28:16.360 record with
00:28:17.480 Iran and
00:28:19.120 some of
00:28:19.640 the rhetoric
00:28:20.380 by members
00:28:20.900 of the
00:28:21.600 Democratic
00:28:21.980 Party in
00:28:22.660 Washington,
00:28:23.820 D.C.
00:28:24.480 Horrible.
00:28:25.760 Horrible.
00:28:26.880 So, I
00:28:28.200 mean, Israel
00:28:28.860 is the one
00:28:30.000 ally that we
00:28:31.360 have that,
00:28:32.660 you know,
00:28:33.240 while they are
00:28:34.460 asking for aid,
00:28:35.620 they're the one
00:28:36.140 ally that is
00:28:36.840 like, no,
00:28:37.400 no, no,
00:28:37.640 no, no,
00:28:37.820 no, you're
00:28:38.440 not going to
00:28:38.740 fight our
00:28:39.120 battles,
00:28:39.560 we'll fight
00:28:40.160 our battle.
00:28:41.700 You just
00:28:42.480 want some
00:28:43.540 cover and
00:28:44.260 somebody saying,
00:28:45.500 no, Israel
00:28:45.880 has a right
00:28:46.380 to do that,
00:28:47.660 which is odd
00:28:49.600 and the only
00:28:50.400 ally that we
00:28:51.220 have that is
00:28:52.440 very capable
00:28:53.500 of fighting
00:28:55.060 their own
00:28:55.480 battle.
00:28:55.880 But this
00:28:56.500 looks like it
00:28:57.220 is going
00:28:57.940 into a
00:28:58.440 regional war
00:28:59.200 quickly.
00:29:00.120 Is that your
00:29:00.820 take on the
00:29:01.400 ground there?
00:29:03.200 That is the
00:29:04.440 fear.
00:29:05.760 Yeah.
00:29:07.200 Things are
00:29:07.880 heating up
00:29:08.460 with Hezbollah
00:29:09.860 in the north.
00:29:10.700 with even
00:29:13.600 in Syria,
00:29:14.460 there's been
00:29:14.900 some
00:29:15.300 exchanges
00:29:18.860 of fire.
00:29:20.860 And of
00:29:21.120 course,
00:29:21.420 Israel is
00:29:21.900 now preparing
00:29:22.740 to or
00:29:24.900 seems to be
00:29:25.880 preparing to
00:29:26.540 launch a
00:29:27.100 ground assault
00:29:27.800 into the
00:29:28.320 Gaza Strip,
00:29:29.140 which is,
00:29:29.480 you know,
00:29:30.360 where the
00:29:30.920 Hamas
00:29:32.680 terrorists
00:29:33.120 came from
00:29:34.160 on October
00:29:35.520 7th.
00:29:36.740 So,
00:29:37.040 yeah,
00:29:37.360 we,
00:29:38.400 and actually
00:29:39.640 in following
00:29:40.300 the false
00:29:43.600 reporting
00:29:44.100 and the
00:29:46.420 false claims
00:29:47.140 from the
00:29:47.980 Palestinians
00:29:48.420 about the
00:29:49.560 hospital bombing,
00:29:50.780 things have,
00:29:51.200 as you mentioned,
00:29:52.140 things have become
00:29:52.720 much more
00:29:53.160 inflamed as far
00:29:53.940 as protests
00:29:55.160 in the West
00:29:55.640 Bank,
00:29:56.840 mobs
00:29:59.700 surrounding
00:30:00.420 U.S.
00:30:00.840 embassies,
00:30:01.880 including in
00:30:03.400 Lebanon
00:30:04.160 and Beirut.
00:30:05.200 So,
00:30:06.340 yeah,
00:30:06.560 things appear
00:30:07.840 to be escalating.
00:30:08.920 I don't know.
00:30:10.500 I don't think
00:30:10.860 anyone knows
00:30:11.600 for sure
00:30:12.600 where it's
00:30:15.320 going.
00:30:16.260 And maybe,
00:30:17.220 I think,
00:30:19.460 I think most
00:30:20.540 Israelis hope
00:30:21.180 that it does not,
00:30:23.080 that the war
00:30:23.920 is contained
00:30:24.520 to the Gaza Strip
00:30:25.580 and that we can
00:30:26.620 deal with
00:30:27.180 the terrorists
00:30:28.680 who came
00:30:29.380 and slaughtered
00:30:31.420 our civilians
00:30:32.040 and took
00:30:32.760 a couple
00:30:33.960 hundred of
00:30:34.440 them hostage
00:30:35.340 without having
00:30:36.860 to fight
00:30:37.360 a regional
00:30:38.280 war.
00:30:38.900 But,
00:30:38.940 but,
00:30:40.100 it's definitely
00:30:41.340 a very real
00:30:42.000 possibility
00:30:42.520 that things
00:30:43.520 could escalate.
00:30:44.380 Yeah,
00:30:44.520 and that's not
00:30:45.220 going to stay
00:30:45.620 a regional war.
00:30:46.420 That'll go
00:30:46.800 global,
00:30:47.420 unfortunately,
00:30:48.140 I fear.
00:30:49.660 There's an
00:30:50.320 opinion poll
00:30:51.240 that I read
00:30:52.580 in your article.
00:30:53.660 Four in five
00:30:54.300 Jewish Israelis
00:30:55.220 blamed the
00:30:56.040 government
00:30:56.460 for the
00:30:57.460 rampage.
00:30:58.780 What does
00:30:59.460 that mean
00:31:00.000 exactly?
00:31:00.480 Yeah,
00:31:02.000 there was
00:31:02.320 actually
00:31:02.580 another,
00:31:03.200 another poll
00:31:04.300 that came
00:31:05.120 out either
00:31:05.540 yesterday or
00:31:06.420 today in a,
00:31:07.460 in a,
00:31:08.060 um,
00:31:09.520 Israeli newspaper
00:31:10.520 that,
00:31:11.720 uh,
00:31:12.960 that showed
00:31:13.460 even a higher
00:31:13.940 number.
00:31:14.340 I think it
00:31:14.580 was 94%
00:31:15.600 of Israelis
00:31:16.140 think the
00:31:17.040 government is
00:31:17.500 to blame
00:31:17.860 for this.
00:31:18.960 Uh,
00:31:19.160 it's been,
00:31:19.640 it's basically
00:31:21.000 it was a,
00:31:21.500 it was a massive
00:31:22.260 intelligence and
00:31:23.560 military,
00:31:24.220 military failure,
00:31:25.080 or at least
00:31:25.560 that's what it
00:31:25.940 appears to.
00:31:26.900 I think we can
00:31:27.480 just say that
00:31:27.900 definitively.
00:31:28.700 It was a massive
00:31:29.320 intelligence and
00:31:30.480 military failure
00:31:31.420 that,
00:31:32.140 that these,
00:31:34.160 uh,
00:31:35.420 what we,
00:31:35.920 what we're kind
00:31:36.400 of seeing as,
00:31:36.940 uh,
00:31:38.520 barbarian terrorists,
00:31:39.840 not a particularly,
00:31:40.540 um,
00:31:41.600 sophisticated group
00:31:42.660 were able to
00:31:43.640 burst across the
00:31:45.200 high-tech Israeli
00:31:45.900 border,
00:31:46.360 um,
00:31:47.640 and do so much
00:31:48.520 damage.
00:31:49.040 And the border
00:31:50.260 remained unsecured
00:31:52.120 for,
00:31:52.520 for,
00:31:53.060 uh,
00:31:53.920 many hours,
00:31:54.880 I believe days.
00:31:55.880 Uh,
00:31:56.400 there were still,
00:31:57.340 there were,
00:31:57.840 there were regular,
00:31:58.560 uh,
00:31:59.380 Palestinian citizens
00:32:00.500 from Gaza
00:32:01.100 not affiliated with
00:32:02.340 Hamas streaming
00:32:03.380 into the country,
00:32:04.420 participating in the
00:32:05.420 atrocities,
00:32:06.460 holding people hostage,
00:32:07.540 robbing them.
00:32:08.180 There's reports that
00:32:09.220 they were involved in
00:32:09.960 rapes and assaults
00:32:11.580 and kidnappings.
00:32:12.380 So it was a massive
00:32:14.180 failure to,
00:32:15.380 to predict that,
00:32:16.740 uh,
00:32:17.580 that apparently there
00:32:18.160 was,
00:32:18.540 there were,
00:32:18.880 there were indications
00:32:19.840 that it,
00:32:20.240 it should have been
00:32:21.380 detected.
00:32:22.280 And to,
00:32:23.340 um,
00:32:24.500 prevent it
00:32:25.180 and to deal with,
00:32:26.460 you know,
00:32:26.720 it took,
00:32:27.180 there were this heroic
00:32:27.880 stories of,
00:32:28.620 of Israeli soldiers.
00:32:30.500 Um,
00:32:31.060 I was seeing on
00:32:32.160 Israeli TV last night,
00:32:33.320 there was a one
00:32:34.100 young man who
00:32:35.380 killed dozens
00:32:36.520 and dozens of
00:32:37.200 terrorists in a,
00:32:38.260 in a small Israeli
00:32:39.500 village near the
00:32:40.240 border.
00:32:40.520 Um,
00:32:41.820 but he was just
00:32:42.460 on his own with a
00:32:43.480 couple,
00:32:44.260 a couple of his
00:32:44.920 friends,
00:32:45.320 um,
00:32:46.780 you know,
00:32:47.320 like basically,
00:32:49.000 uh,
00:32:50.600 fighting the,
00:32:51.920 uh,
00:32:52.580 fighting Hamas
00:32:53.400 terrorists as they,
00:32:54.160 as they continue to
00:32:54.880 flood in and,
00:32:55.520 and no one came to
00:32:56.600 the rescue.
00:32:57.480 Um,
00:32:57.700 so,
00:32:58.160 so people are
00:32:58.860 very,
00:32:59.560 um,
00:33:00.760 people,
00:33:01.280 Israel is a,
00:33:02.520 is a diverse country.
00:33:03.580 People don't always
00:33:04.160 know that.
00:33:04.760 Yeah.
00:33:05.420 Countries,
00:33:06.600 um,
00:33:07.480 Jews from the
00:33:08.100 Middle East who,
00:33:09.400 who were actually
00:33:10.060 expelled by the
00:33:11.020 Arab countries and
00:33:12.320 forced to,
00:33:13.000 uh,
00:33:13.660 take,
00:33:14.360 uh,
00:33:15.180 to take shelter or
00:33:16.540 to move to
00:33:17.200 Israel.
00:33:18.120 Um,
00:33:18.600 and,
00:33:19.040 and so,
00:33:20.020 um,
00:33:21.000 and there's lots
00:33:21.820 of different types
00:33:22.660 of,
00:33:22.920 uh,
00:33:23.160 Christians and
00:33:24.100 there's different
00:33:24.920 types of Jews and
00:33:25.960 there's,
00:33:26.420 um,
00:33:27.520 there's even,
00:33:28.180 uh,
00:33:28.420 quite a few Jews,
00:33:29.620 the Jews from
00:33:30.100 Russia and
00:33:30.600 Africa.
00:33:30.860 No,
00:33:31.000 I mean,
00:33:31.360 honestly,
00:33:32.000 if you've ever been
00:33:34.580 to Israel or just
00:33:35.620 around Jewish people
00:33:36.640 that I'm telling you,
00:33:37.580 you have two rabbis,
00:33:38.560 you have five
00:33:39.040 opinions.
00:33:40.260 Uh,
00:33:40.820 I mean,
00:33:41.240 it's like,
00:33:41.900 it's,
00:33:42.400 it's crazy.
00:33:43.260 And then we have
00:33:43.640 the Arabs and,
00:33:44.400 uh,
00:33:45.020 complicated.
00:33:46.260 So we are a very
00:33:47.400 divided country and
00:33:48.200 we,
00:33:48.480 we've,
00:33:48.800 we've had our fair
00:33:49.540 share of,
00:33:50.100 uh,
00:33:50.900 of beefs and
00:33:51.600 quarrels lately.
00:33:52.780 But,
00:33:53.300 um,
00:33:53.720 this event,
00:33:54.620 as you might expect,
00:33:55.520 kind of like,
00:33:56.320 um,
00:33:56.800 after 9-11 in the
00:33:57.880 United States,
00:33:58.920 united everyone,
00:34:00.220 has united everyone.
00:34:01.240 And it's been,
00:34:01.980 um,
00:34:04.000 it's been a real
00:34:04.820 national effort to,
00:34:06.360 uh,
00:34:06.760 to recover from
00:34:08.280 this and to rally
00:34:09.260 for,
00:34:09.820 for a war in
00:34:10.580 response to this.
00:34:11.440 But at the same
00:34:12.420 time,
00:34:12.760 people have
00:34:13.840 apparently lost
00:34:15.060 all faith in the
00:34:16.220 government.
00:34:16.540 So it's a very
00:34:17.240 kind of grassroots
00:34:18.100 effort.
00:34:19.940 Um,
00:34:20.380 and,
00:34:21.380 and it's not,
00:34:23.740 uh,
00:34:24.520 being led by our
00:34:25.860 politicians.
00:34:26.900 In fact,
00:34:27.700 yeah,
00:34:28.080 this is widely
00:34:29.680 anticipated that after
00:34:30.620 this war,
00:34:31.040 there will be a
00:34:31.520 reckoning and,
00:34:32.100 and,
00:34:33.180 um,
00:34:33.840 kind of a house
00:34:34.500 cleaning.
00:34:35.380 Is this,
00:34:36.420 is this,
00:34:37.460 um,
00:34:38.600 translating over
00:34:39.920 also to negotiating
00:34:41.480 with Hamas all the
00:34:42.900 time?
00:34:43.200 I mean,
00:34:43.440 is the idea,
00:34:44.800 at least the feeling
00:34:46.040 that we have here
00:34:46.960 is Israel's had
00:34:48.420 enough of this
00:34:49.300 little game of we
00:34:50.180 want a two-state
00:34:50.840 solution?
00:34:51.360 No,
00:34:51.540 you don't.
00:34:52.300 No,
00:34:52.560 you don't.
00:34:53.440 Um,
00:34:53.980 you know,
00:34:54.460 and,
00:34:54.740 and you're,
00:34:55.500 you're barbarians
00:34:56.760 and you can't,
00:34:58.040 we can't deal with
00:34:59.020 you.
00:34:59.180 Or is what's
00:35:01.160 happening to the
00:35:01.840 rest of the world
00:35:02.420 like,
00:35:02.860 you know,
00:35:03.180 wait a minute,
00:35:03.980 wait a minute,
00:35:04.360 let's not be too
00:35:05.160 rash here.
00:35:06.140 Is that happening
00:35:07.420 at all in Israel?
00:35:09.820 Yeah,
00:35:10.120 I,
00:35:10.400 I think in Israel,
00:35:11.700 the,
00:35:12.020 the,
00:35:12.760 there has been,
00:35:15.040 I think the idea
00:35:16.040 of a two-state
00:35:16.520 solution has,
00:35:17.160 has been kind of,
00:35:18.500 was discredited
00:35:19.200 in Israel
00:35:19.640 long before,
00:35:21.860 um,
00:35:23.020 this,
00:35:23.700 the U.S.
00:35:25.140 and American Jews
00:35:26.440 caught up.
00:35:27.120 So there isn't a lot
00:35:27.940 of faith in a two-state
00:35:28.800 solution.
00:35:29.360 We,
00:35:29.520 it's pretty clear
00:35:30.120 that there's no
00:35:30.640 partner for peace
00:35:31.460 right now.
00:35:32.140 Even those who would
00:35:32.840 very much like to see
00:35:33.800 peace,
00:35:34.480 which is probably a
00:35:35.980 majority of the
00:35:36.860 country,
00:35:37.520 still holds out hope,
00:35:38.480 but no one expects
00:35:40.120 it anytime soon.
00:35:41.460 Uh,
00:35:41.940 this,
00:35:42.320 this has definitely,
00:35:43.540 no one is talking
00:35:44.900 about,
00:35:45.280 about,
00:35:45.820 uh,
00:35:47.520 about reconciliation
00:35:48.300 right now.
00:35:48.900 This has definitely,
00:35:49.620 um,
00:35:50.180 kind of driven home
00:35:51.480 the point that
00:35:52.320 they're,
00:35:52.820 um,
00:35:54.360 that Israel has to
00:35:55.560 fight for its
00:35:56.020 existence,
00:35:56.380 and there's,
00:35:56.820 there's no one to
00:35:57.420 talk to about,
00:35:58.200 about a two-state
00:35:59.540 solution at the
00:36:00.460 moment.
00:36:00.720 We are seeing,
00:36:02.740 uh,
00:36:03.480 some really
00:36:04.280 frightening things
00:36:05.300 here in America,
00:36:06.360 uh,
00:36:07.060 and all over the
00:36:07.780 world,
00:36:08.160 London,
00:36:08.500 uh,
00:36:09.460 with these Palestinian
00:36:10.540 support groups
00:36:11.560 that are,
00:36:12.480 you know,
00:36:13.800 uh,
00:36:14.680 you know,
00:36:15.060 exhilarated is the
00:36:16.180 quote from one,
00:36:17.000 uh,
00:36:17.300 one,
00:36:17.760 uh,
00:36:18.300 college professor,
00:36:19.280 um,
00:36:20.620 by the,
00:36:21.580 the killing and the,
00:36:23.220 the killing of
00:36:23.900 innocence and,
00:36:25.400 and the executions
00:36:27.080 that,
00:36:27.700 that happened by,
00:36:28.720 uh,
00:36:29.320 Gaza and,
00:36:30.300 you know,
00:36:31.120 there are some
00:36:31.580 politicians now here
00:36:32.540 in America saying
00:36:33.220 maybe we should,
00:36:35.020 uh,
00:36:36.020 deport some of these
00:36:37.800 people.
00:36:39.120 Can,
00:36:39.840 can,
00:36:40.320 can the rest of the
00:36:41.380 world live with
00:36:42.500 the Palestinians?
00:36:43.780 How do you,
00:36:44.360 how do you know who
00:36:46.000 the good Palestinians
00:36:46.800 are and who the bad
00:36:47.640 Palestinians are?
00:36:50.400 That's a tough
00:36:51.360 question.
00:36:52.540 I'll,
00:36:53.320 I think what I could
00:36:54.600 say,
00:36:55.120 um,
00:36:56.800 I,
00:36:57.520 I,
00:36:57.800 by the way,
00:36:58.120 I've been a reporter
00:36:58.720 in Israel for,
00:36:59.620 uh,
00:37:00.200 I was,
00:37:00.740 I was,
00:37:01.160 I'm an American
00:37:02.100 Jew.
00:37:02.880 My,
00:37:03.100 my father is Jewish
00:37:04.540 and I grew up in
00:37:05.160 the U S and I
00:37:06.300 moved here about a
00:37:07.700 decade ago to
00:37:09.260 report.
00:37:09.700 And I met it,
00:37:10.400 uh,
00:37:10.800 I met an Israeli
00:37:11.640 girl and fell in
00:37:12.960 love and started a
00:37:13.980 family.
00:37:14.260 And now,
00:37:14.740 and now I'm,
00:37:15.560 I've been stuck here
00:37:16.400 ever since happily
00:37:17.340 stuck here,
00:37:17.900 um,
00:37:18.800 for the most part,
00:37:19.540 but stuck here.
00:37:20.520 Um,
00:37:21.000 so I'm,
00:37:21.340 I'm Israeli now and
00:37:22.360 I live in Israeli
00:37:22.960 life.
00:37:23.480 Um,
00:37:23.960 but I'm,
00:37:24.300 I'm,
00:37:24.620 I'm American,
00:37:25.520 um,
00:37:27.080 first and foremost
00:37:28.260 in some ways.
00:37:29.380 And,
00:37:30.080 um,
00:37:30.600 and I have been
00:37:32.360 really appalled
00:37:34.860 by the response
00:37:37.480 from parts of the
00:37:39.820 left and the media
00:37:41.680 in the U S to this.
00:37:42.680 And I think a lot of
00:37:43.480 even liberal American
00:37:45.100 Jews are kind of
00:37:46.220 waking up that there's
00:37:47.760 a bigger problem here
00:37:48.900 that you see so much
00:37:51.000 of an overlap
00:37:52.740 between a kind of
00:37:53.720 radical Islamist
00:37:55.500 ideology and,
00:37:56.460 and what's supposed
00:37:57.060 to be progressive
00:37:58.000 worldview and just
00:37:59.360 this,
00:38:00.220 the,
00:38:00.620 the hatred of,
00:38:03.440 of America and
00:38:05.740 Israel and,
00:38:07.160 and,
00:38:08.380 you know,
00:38:09.440 the West in
00:38:10.580 general,
00:38:11.000 um,
00:38:12.460 the,
00:38:12.920 the rejection of
00:38:13.820 kind of liberal,
00:38:14.720 basic liberal
00:38:15.360 principles about,
00:38:16.380 you know,
00:38:17.320 uh,
00:38:17.840 equality under the
00:38:18.620 law and,
00:38:19.940 um,
00:38:20.340 all people being
00:38:21.680 equal and a more
00:38:22.920 of a worldview that's
00:38:24.020 about oppression and
00:38:25.880 power and vengeance
00:38:27.220 and retribution.
00:38:28.280 And yeah,
00:38:29.580 it's been very,
00:38:30.360 very disheartening,
00:38:31.820 worse than I would
00:38:32.400 have even expected
00:38:33.100 in a lot of ways.
00:38:34.060 Um,
00:38:34.500 there have been some,
00:38:35.260 you know,
00:38:35.400 there's been some
00:38:36.120 bright spots,
00:38:37.240 of course,
00:38:37.940 um,
00:38:38.460 Biden has been less
00:38:39.780 bad than,
00:38:40.580 than feared.
00:38:41.400 And there's been
00:38:42.360 some sympathy for
00:38:43.660 Israel and the media
00:38:44.740 and everything,
00:38:45.120 but you know,
00:38:45.660 yeah,
00:38:45.800 you see what
00:38:46.460 Rashida would believe
00:38:47.600 and,
00:38:47.860 you know,
00:38:48.160 on Omar's Black Lives
00:38:49.360 Matter and the,
00:38:50.340 Harvard students
00:38:51.340 and you see the,
00:38:53.040 you know,
00:38:54.400 the really atrocious
00:38:55.440 reporting on this,
00:38:56.440 on this,
00:38:57.480 uh,
00:38:57.840 hospital blast that,
00:38:59.160 that,
00:38:59.600 um,
00:39:00.940 was pretty clearly
00:39:01.620 carried out or
00:39:02.420 maybe it was an
00:39:03.300 accident,
00:39:03.680 but it was clearly,
00:39:04.220 pretty clearly,
00:39:04.860 um,
00:39:05.700 the result of a
00:39:06.440 Palestinian rocket
00:39:07.200 and you had the
00:39:08.240 New York Times
00:39:08.840 and so much of,
00:39:10.200 of the U.S.
00:39:11.100 media taking as
00:39:12.800 fact the word of,
00:39:13.780 uh,
00:39:15.480 of Hamas terrorists
00:39:16.440 as far as what
00:39:17.800 happened and how
00:39:18.460 many people were
00:39:19.080 killed and all that.
00:39:19.840 And I think that's just
00:39:20.680 that,
00:39:21.240 that actual event
00:39:22.200 yesterday
00:39:22.800 as was really
00:39:24.380 kind of,
00:39:24.860 uh,
00:39:26.260 a good microcosm
00:39:27.280 or it was very
00:39:28.100 revealing about a
00:39:29.480 larger trend that
00:39:30.320 isn't always quite so
00:39:31.400 blatant and explicit
00:39:32.280 with,
00:39:32.660 with,
00:39:33.820 uh,
00:39:34.220 the,
00:39:34.820 the media's tendency
00:39:35.820 to just,
00:39:36.420 the left,
00:39:38.680 uh,
00:39:39.140 sympathy to the
00:39:39.860 Palestinian cause
00:39:40.840 and the media's
00:39:41.680 tendency to take
00:39:42.720 the terrorists
00:39:43.860 at their word.
00:39:44.640 We're,
00:39:45.060 uh,
00:39:45.220 we're talking,
00:39:45.640 uh,
00:39:47.000 we're talking to
00:39:47.640 Andrew Tobin.
00:39:48.900 I'm sorry,
00:39:49.220 we have a delay,
00:39:49.920 uh,
00:39:50.340 on the phone.
00:39:50.920 Um,
00:39:51.240 Washington Free Beacon
00:39:52.420 deputy editor.
00:39:53.400 He's an American,
00:39:54.300 lives there,
00:39:55.740 has family there.
00:39:57.220 He's,
00:39:57.740 you know,
00:39:58.000 been instructed,
00:39:59.060 you know,
00:39:59.300 come home by the U.S.
00:40:00.580 State Department.
00:40:01.280 He won't.
00:40:02.180 Why?
00:40:03.040 Why do you live there?
00:40:05.240 It's a question that
00:40:06.080 some people would ask.
00:40:07.600 Andrew,
00:40:07.800 I have 90 seconds.
00:40:09.060 Um,
00:40:09.880 answer for me
00:40:11.020 the question,
00:40:12.200 why would you just
00:40:13.380 keep your family
00:40:14.360 in danger
00:40:15.740 by staying there?
00:40:17.320 Why not leave Israel?
00:40:19.660 We,
00:40:20.620 we considered
00:40:21.900 that,
00:40:22.420 then the potential
00:40:23.540 need to leave
00:40:24.180 to protect
00:40:24.920 our young son
00:40:26.320 who's four years old
00:40:27.320 and our,
00:40:29.340 uh,
00:40:29.540 my wife is,
00:40:30.340 seven and a half
00:40:32.180 months or so
00:40:32.820 pregnant.
00:40:33.680 So there was,
00:40:34.620 there,
00:40:34.860 we,
00:40:35.200 we didn't dismiss
00:40:36.120 the idea of leaving
00:40:36.820 outright,
00:40:37.360 but,
00:40:37.800 um,
00:40:39.320 but my wife's
00:40:41.000 family's here.
00:40:42.020 Her brother
00:40:42.820 is,
00:40:43.080 is,
00:40:43.700 uh,
00:40:44.340 a commando
00:40:45.140 soldier who
00:40:45.880 is returning
00:40:46.280 from the U.S.
00:40:47.420 actually,
00:40:47.760 where he was living
00:40:48.360 to fight this war.
00:40:49.540 Her sister,
00:40:50.140 uh,
00:40:51.020 is serving
00:40:51.500 in the military.
00:40:52.320 Her base
00:40:52.680 was overrun
00:40:53.220 by these terrorists.
00:40:54.820 Um,
00:40:55.460 we have a community
00:40:56.460 here to support
00:40:57.400 and,
00:40:58.740 um,
00:40:59.360 that's one thing.
00:41:00.780 And the other thing
00:41:01.800 is we,
00:41:02.740 like you said,
00:41:03.520 um,
00:41:04.420 we feel the need
00:41:05.460 to be here
00:41:06.180 kind of in solidarity
00:41:07.100 with the Jewish nation,
00:41:08.540 which doesn't have
00:41:09.640 anywhere else
00:41:10.660 to go.
00:41:11.620 Yeah.
00:41:12.100 And this is a fight
00:41:12.840 that,
00:41:13.180 that we have to win.
00:41:14.520 And,
00:41:15.140 um,
00:41:15.600 and I think in some ways
00:41:17.260 it's a fight for,
00:41:18.860 against all these forces
00:41:20.200 we've been talking about.
00:41:21.240 Yeah.
00:41:21.580 Um,
00:41:22.380 the,
00:41:22.620 the enemies of freedom
00:41:24.280 around the world.
00:41:25.040 Yeah.
00:41:25.540 Andrew,
00:41:26.160 um,
00:41:26.700 I appreciate it.
00:41:27.520 Thank you so much
00:41:28.400 for talking to us.
00:41:29.260 If there is anything
00:41:30.480 that we are,
00:41:31.780 you know,
00:41:32.060 that I or my audience
00:41:33.300 can do to help you,
00:41:34.760 please,
00:41:35.240 uh,
00:41:35.780 feel free to jump
00:41:36.560 on the phone
00:41:36.980 with us immediately.
00:41:38.440 Andrew Tobin
00:41:39.120 from the Washington
00:41:40.080 Free Beacon
00:41:41.060 deputy editor
00:41:42.200 will be paying,
00:41:43.020 praying for your,
00:41:43.940 you and your family
00:41:44.680 and the birth
00:41:45.820 of your,
00:41:46.360 uh,
00:41:46.580 your next child.
00:41:48.500 Godspeed.
00:41:48.980 Na, na, na, na.