Biden vs. Dems： Who Will Win the Campaign Battle？ ｜ 7⧸8⧸24
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On today's show, Glenn sits down with Pat and Stu to talk about the Democratic Debates, the upcoming mid-term elections, and much, much more. Glenn also talks about his new t-shirt line, American Giant.
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Well, obviously, some people are trying to make a big deal out of the debate, you know,
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And, you know, I mean, like, that's just half of the excuses he's used since this thing
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The Republicans, from what I understand, punctured the buckets of Gatorade that were back to
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And that made, by the way, Biden's new orthopedic shoes sticky on the bottom, which is distracting.
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If your feet are stuck to the floor during a debate, how are you going to talk?
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His feet were stuck to the floor because of the Gatorade that leaked everywhere.
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And I thought it was powerful, but it was because his feet were stuck to the floor.
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You know, if you want to have a fair debate, you don't put it on some right wing network
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The MAGA debate would have been far more appropriate.
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I mean, it's been incredible to watch because I guess if you're a function of the party and
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the people that work around Joe Biden is to keep him in power no matter what.
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It's been fascinating for them to just struggle to find any way to get out of this.
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You know, the six minute speech he did on prompter like the next day.
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And then they set up this Stephanopoulos interview and it's such an interesting time, Pat.
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But the press has literally turned on Joe Biden, at least for this one week period.
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Now, I will promise you, I promise you that the second they have no opportunity to replace
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him, they will be back on his side and they will say he's cured Alzheimer's.
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They will talk about the overreaction of America.
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They're like, you know, we should have never even talked about those emails.
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The media made a real mistake there by talking about those emails.
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And they will say, you know, actually, he's fine.
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And actually, you know, he had that tough period around the debate, but we've talked
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They will do all of those things the second they feel that they can no longer replace
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And right now, they're in that period where they think we are in trouble.
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Our goal as journalists is not to cover the news, is not to cover facts.
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It was Joe Biden all the way up until that debate.
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Until the moment they realized, Pat, holy crap, this guy's going to lose.
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Let's jam this car that's been in sixth gear for the last hundred miles into reverse on the
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highway and suddenly act as if, first of all, things have changed.
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Oh, he's gotten much worse over the last month or two.
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You know, there were some rumors here and there, but generally speaking, there was nothing.
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And now they've reversed and now they really do want him out.
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I mean, I have never seen anything like the New York Times coverage.
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Every story is about how not only has he completely fallen apart mentally, but everybody around
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him, every official is saying it, has been saying it.
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They've got examples from months ago, suddenly, why they didn't report them at the time.
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Well, because at the time he was fine and it was a right wing kookery.
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And now they're like, honestly, at the point where they are covering him like we do.
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Like they are covering him where like, you know, we would do a show.
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We'll do a show on a Monday and Joe Biden's been out speaking and he, you know, he'll do
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a couple of speeches and he'll just flub a few lines and just sound like an idiot a few
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And B, it highlights something that we already knew that the audience has already understood
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And like, we kind of will look at it and say, wow, this is amazing that nobody's noticing
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Like, you know, but not every gaffe is the biggest deal in the world.
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Not every little mispronunciation is the biggest deal in the world.
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President Biden sought to steady his reelection campaign by talking with two black radio hosts
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But he spoke haltingly at points during one interview and struggled to find the right
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Now, that would never be covered until this past week.
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The fact that he just spoke haltingly and said one thing wrong in an interview.
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Like, that's every interview for Joe Biden for four years.
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I've seen so many headlines that proclaim Joe Biden said he was a black woman.
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And when you hear it, he actually does say that.
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It's on the level of 57 states from Barack Obama.
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We all know that Barack Obama doesn't actually think there are 57 states.
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We also, I think, understand that Joe Biden doesn't believe he's a black woman.
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But, like, you know, it's a little flub and we would make fun of it and move on with our
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They say he spoke haltingly at points during one interview and struggled to find the right
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phrase in another, saying that he was proud to have been, quote, the first black woman
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I mean, he's not a black woman and he doesn't serve with a black president.
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He is the first president to select a black vice president.
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That's the type of stuff that they would full out ignore two weeks ago.
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And if you brought it up, it was like, oh, come on.
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He also stumbled over his words during a four-minute Fourth of July speech to military
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families at the White House, beginning a story about, listen to how minor this is, beginning
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a story about former President Donald J. Trump calling him one of our colleagues, the former
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Now, it's not a ridiculous stretch to call Donald Trump a colleague of other politicians.
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Now, they might not like each other, but they did work together theoretically on some things.
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And in theory, it meant they were working together.
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That's a dumb thing to say, I guess, if you're a presidential candidate running against another
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So, generally speaking, they don't call him a colleague.
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I mean, it's so minor that I don't even think we would highlight it.
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The only reason I pulled it was for this, was to show how far they've gone.
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The New York Times, the Washington Post, they want this guy out so badly for this one month
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They've decided they're going to go all in to get him out.
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And if it fails, they will go exactly back to where they were and act like we're the crazy
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I don't think it's going to move him to withdraw from the race.
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This is exactly what Trump socialed out or whatever.
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Trying to get him to, please stay in the race, Joe, because you're solid as a rock and such
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And it's interesting because, you know, some of the polls are showing some gains by Trump
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There have been some that have been pretty good for Biden.
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I mean, the averages seem to have, you know, moved on this news.
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Had it at basically 42-40 Trump before the debate.
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In reality, Joe Biden has no argument to not only be an actual candidate, but president
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Everyone can look at him and realize this should be over yesterday.
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On the other side, if you're Joe Biden, the polls haven't fallen apart completely.
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They don't look good, but they haven't fallen apart completely.
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These averages will start to filter in only post-debate polls pretty soon, and you'll
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get a final idea as to where this thing really stands.
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But generally speaking, he's got to be within the margin of error, probably nationally, probably
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And there's not really an argument to say things have changed so dramatically that you
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And I think if I were Biden, and with everything that entails, I'm a very corrupt person.
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I've only cared about my own and family's power and money for many, many years.
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I have dreamt about being president of the United States since at least 1972.
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All I care about is myself and the people around me.
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But more importantly, I'm realizing probably at some level he's realizing we're getting
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Because some congressman you've never heard of says he wants you out?
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If you can't withstand a couple of weeks of op-eds from the New York Times, what kind
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Crooked Joe Biden should ignore his many critics and move forward with alacrity and strength
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He should be sharp, precise, and energetic, just like he was in the debate in selling his
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policies of open borders, where millions of people, including record numbers of terrorists,
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are allowed to enter our country from prisons and mental institutions, totally unchecked and
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unvetted, to ending social security, men playing women's sports, high taxes, high interest
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rates, encouraging a woke military, uncontrollable inflation, record-setting crime, only electric
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vehicles, subservience to China and other countries, endless wars, putting America last,
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losing our dollar-based standard, and so much more.
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Yes, Sleepy Joe should continue his campaign of American destruction and make China great again.
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I mean, it's funny, and it's very sarcastic, and I understand why he's doing it.
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I am, I feel like I'd rather him wait on this stuff just a little bit, because I don't want-
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I do think, though, are we out of agreement here that, like, the best thing, probably for
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the future of the country, is for Joe Biden to remain the nominee?
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Because he's much more beatable, he's easy to beat, and while the next four to six months
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are going to be terrible and scary, it's better than four and a half years of terrible and
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scary, which is what you get with, let's say, Kamala Harris as president, and maybe eight
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So, I think the best thing, even though I think it puts it in severe risk over the next
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six months, is probably for Joe Biden to remain the nominee.
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We should talk about strategy here, Pat, of how do you make that happen?
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I mean, I think just what you know of October 7th makes it blatantly obvious.
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So we're talking about Joe Biden and whether he should remain in the race.
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And I think we agree, Pat, that it would be good for America if he stays in the race.
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Because I feel like the instinct of a conservative is to say, well, the opponent is Joe Biden.
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The worst thing that can happen to his campaign is him stepping down.
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And yes, I understand that Kamala Harris is the most likely replacement, okay?
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So you might not be afraid of Kamala Harris, and there's good reason for that.
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I will say that when you look at the polling and you look at it, you know, in a little bit
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of depth, what you see over and over again is Joe Biden is losing this election partially because he's a bad president.
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But what makes it more obvious than ever, and not just a razor-tight margin, razor-thin margin, is the fact that he's old, right?
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So many people, everyone on the Republican side, almost everyone that is independent, and about half of Democrats all agree
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this guy's too old to be president of the United States.
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It is by far, by far and away, the Biden campaign's largest problem.
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Now, we all know that by watching him try to act as president on a daily basis.
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But he is overwhelmingly, the biggest problem he faces is he's old.
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And Kamala Harris will bring many of the same problems that Joe Biden has.
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She is also associated with a bunch of policies that people don't like.
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They're the word salad variety rather than, you know, the Joe Biden doesn't know where he is variety.
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But they're similar in some ways, you could say.
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She, you know, is a good fundraiser for whatever reason.
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And one of the reasons why this has been easy for Trump so far is he's been able to say over and over again, this guy is incoherent.
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And then everyone goes to check his math on that and they say, you're right.
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Now, he's going to say things about Kamala Harris that will also be true.
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If you're Donald Trump, should you speak out more?
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We'll talk about that strategy coming back on the other side.
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Uh, what should be the Donald J. Trump strategy now, moving forward?
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Seems like he's settled on, at least according to this, uh, truth post that he did yesterday.
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Seems to be encouraging Joe to stay in the race.
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Yeah, but I do believe he thinks he can crush Biden.
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Oh, 100%, which is why I think he should want to keep him in the race.
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And I don't know that saying, look, they're not going to make this decision based on what
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Trump says, but like, it's this thing basically, if you've got, Pat, starting quarterback and
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a backup quarterback, and there's a quarterback controversy going into a big game, if you
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have no idea which one to start, the worst decision in the world would not be to go to
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the city of the team you're playing and listen to their sports radio station and see what
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Like, you know, what are, what quarterback do they want?
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Like, I mean, again, it's a little crude, but the fact that Donald Trump wants, you know,
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Joe Biden in this race is not an argument for Joe Biden to stay in the race from the Democrats
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I mean, if anything else, Kamala Harris would at least require a new approach and something
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I'm not trying to make this out to be the most difficult task in the world, but I will
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say it should be more difficult than Joe Biden.
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Joe Biden can't, he literally can barely walk downstairs.
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One of the things this has highlighted is how desperate the Democrat situation is, because
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After Joe Biden, and he's nobody, really, but who do they have that youth other than
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Did you see the polling that came out the other day, which had basically everybody equal
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or slightly worse than Joe Biden facing Donald Trump, except for Michelle Obama, who was
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I mean, it's interesting if she'll actually resist this power, because I mean, if she's
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it's tough to resist being handed the presidency.
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And certainly that's how this is being presented to her behind the scenes.
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I've always maintained, though, that she hates the country too much to do this tough job.
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I mean, the Obamas have made so much money since leaving office.
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I mean, they're millionaires many, many times over now.
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I mean, just the Netflix deal they signed was, is it 50 million, I think, if I remember
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I watched one movie that they did or were involved in, in some way.
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And it was highlighted by a lot of conservatives because there's this one back and forth where
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they talk about race, you know, white guilt or something, white privilege or something
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But I think what you just highlighted, Pat, is a really important thing to understand
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if you think, oh, well, Joe Biden's just going to step down.
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There are no Netflix deals coming for the Bidens.
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There's no 5 million books sold coming for the Bidens.
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As all former presidents do, he's not capable of that.
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There's not Barack Obama adoration for Joe Biden in the party.
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And this is somewhat similar to Hillary Clinton after she lost, right?
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After she lost, they were like, we never want to see you again.
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Like they literally lost all affinity for Hillary Clinton real fast when she lost to Donald Trump.
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And the talk will change about Biden if he loses to Trump.
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It's going to be more like the switch you've sort of seen with Ruth Bader Ginsburg,
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We should keep her in office forever or in her seat forever.
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She's now seen as someone whose legacy is largely defined by the idea that she stayed there too long and died when Donald Trump was president.
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I mean, no, there's no, it's not a kind group of people.
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And it's also important to note that, and look, he may very well step down.
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Like the media, of course, does this to every Republican president.
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And I mean, like you think about, the closest thing I could come up with, I was thinking about this,
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was the moments after the Access Hollywood tape.
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If you remember back to that time, Trump was still kind of wishy-washy with his party.
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There's still a lot of people who didn't like him.
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Still a lot of people who were not won over by that he was going to be a good president.
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There's a lot of Republicans who actually come out privately and publicly and say,
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They thought for sure they were going to lose at that point.
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You know, but again, it was like a week before the election.
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Then his name's printed on all the ballots already, right?
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It was just kind of an insane fantasy football thing at that point.
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Here, there's an actual chance it could happen.
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And the pressure is not only a few officials here and there and some donors speaking out to the media.
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This is every friendly media source writing story after story after story after story to push him out.
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So, normally, this would probably lead to you being out.
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I mean, they even pushed out Andrew Cuomo, right?
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Who is as focused on himself as even like a Gavin Newsom.
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Like, he's to the level of self-love that only you think a Gavin Newsom could get to.
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And even Andrew Cuomo folded under this type of pressure.
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But the thing with Biden is everybody around him, they're all B-level officials.
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They're all people who couldn't get the high-level jobs with Barack Obama.
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They're all people that would never have these gigs without Joe Biden having power.
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You think Antony Blinken walks into a gig in the Kamala Harris administration?
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No, he's thrown out on the streets because he's a giant zilch, right?
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You think Corinne Jean-Pierre has a job outside of Applebee's after this?
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And the only reason they have any influence, any importance in life is the fact that this man is in power.
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Even though they say that Donald Trump is Hitler and you think maybe you wouldn't want Hitler to be put into office.
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At the end of the day, what they care about is themselves.
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They will say anything they need to say at any given moment to make themselves look good
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and to do what they can do to hold on to power a little bit longer.
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To make themselves a little more popular in their cocktail parties.
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Anyways, you know, the ultimate example of this is Joe Scarborough.
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This shows the evolution of Joe Scarborough's incredible conservatism over the last few months.
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Now, Stu, how old were you back in May of 2024?
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I can picture myself in a grainy black and white, maybe even sepia tone.
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You know, like it's just been a long, long time since I could.
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Yeah, so this starts out with his comments from May 16th of this year, and then June 28th, and then what he had to say just the other day on July 5th.
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Confirmed he can't, he blew him out of the water.
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This last state of the union blew him right out of the water.
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Not only was it prepared remarks, it was off the cuff remarks where he just mocked and ridiculed him and made them look like children.
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They're still mocking him, which plays right into his hand.
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I think we have to ask the same questions of him.
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And that is, if he were CEO, and he turned into performance like that, would any corporation in America, any Fortune 500 corporation in America, keep him on as CEO?
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It's a battle for the future of American democracy.
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This is the last chance for Democrats to decide whether this man we've known and loved for a very long time is up to the task of running for president of the United States.
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He needs to answer it in everything that he does.
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Such an historic decision should not be made in haste.
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Do you realize that we still have access to what you said?
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I mean, if you're going to change your mind like that, and I don't know, has he never seen
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I mean, you would reference, you know, back in May, I said that Republicans were crazy.
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Don't you couch it that way, at least, to avoid some kind of embarrassment?
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Like, no human being could do what we just, like, without feeling just utter shame.
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He also said, in a clip that wasn't a part of that montage, that he was not only cogent,
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he was better than he's ever been, which I think was in March or April.
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So, like, this guy has gone from better than he's ever been to he's got to get out of the
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And thank goodness it's only July, so we can switch this guy out.
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Like, this is like, this is a person who makes decisions about what he says on the air only
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to put himself in the best graces of whatever cocktail party he's going to.
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And we should point out, up to and including embracing Donald Trump for years.
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In fact, I think he offered to have it at Mar-a-Lago.
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I know that they were definitely tight and they were at stuff.
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Joe and Mika were asking him what questions he would like to answer.
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And you know what happened to this weekend to a couple of radio hosts who got questions
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from the Biden administration handed them and they just asked them on the air.
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Just like obviously Joe Scarbo should have been fired years ago and by the way was from
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multiple radio shows, which he's still, my understanding, was reworking the time slot
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so he can get that right and get back on the air any day now.
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The ratings were so bad they wanted to add an hour and by the way, that's the type of
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When you have a show that's underperforming wildly for two hours, what you want to do is add
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a third hour, but you take a good decade to plan it.
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He'll say literally anything just a couple of weeks apart that are two things completely
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at odds with each other and act like it never occurred.
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I mean, there's almost some level of credit we have to give for it because it's such an
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