On today's show, Glenn Beck is joined by his good friend Pat Gray to discuss the latest in the Home Title Theft Scandal and how you can protect your most valuable asset from online crooks. Also, Glenn talks about how he woke up in the middle of the night to find that he was being force fed pizza.
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00:43:09.460He is a deep thinking man who is has been making a lot of waves in his own life to his own career in many cases for speaking what he believes is the truth.
00:45:07.620But wow, what is going on in America right now, the attack and the group think and the big tech takeover of speech is one of the most disconcerting.
00:45:24.980It is the most disconcerting thing that's happened to me in my lifetime.
00:45:29.220Well, they have, you know, they, they, Apple and, and Amazon and Google, they decided they were going to delete Parler from their app stores.
00:45:40.840But this morning, Amazon has taken them off the Internet.
00:45:45.480You can't find them anywhere on the Internet today.
00:45:54.860And, and, and, and I don't, I don't get Parler's crime because let's say that Amazon and Jeff Bezos and whoever's in his ear, Parler's to blame for what happened at the Capitol.
00:46:10.020It was plotted and there are threats that are being made over Parler.
00:46:39.040The logic here and the justification is so flimsy.
00:46:44.180It's just outrageous that I, I, I just, I'm at a loss, but, but Glenn, I have, and this isn't to beat my chest, but it, four or five years ago, I started talking about, hey, man, Silicon Valley, Northern California has way too much power in America and is now in control of the media.
00:47:11.240The liberal from New York is completely different than the liberal from Northern California.
00:47:18.460And to have this concentration of power in Northern California, where that's a very revolutionary, disruptive mindset in Northern California.
00:47:30.260It is, again, I don't want to paint with too broad of a brush, but they just don't believe in traditional American values.
00:47:39.580And I just, we've turned over this power and I just never understood why our lawmakers and people, well, I do understand they were all getting checks and money and big tech has bought off everybody.
00:48:41.980I mean, again, when they twisted this capital thing into a racial incident, that's an example of like the progressive elites in Hollywood, in the sports world, in politics, they live in a world where that was some sort of racial incident that happened last Wednesday.
00:49:04.920Those of us that live in reality, those of us that live in the real world and in reality are like, no, that's an example of what happens when you tell 74 million people they're unworthy of living here in this country, they have no rights, they're all racist, they're Nazis.
00:49:24.160When you tell 74 million people that for four straight years, and you're the worst people on the planet, you don't have a voice here in America, and the one voice you have, which was a powerful voice, the president, we are silencing and removing from office, and now we're coming for you, you 74 million people, anybody that supported Trump.
00:49:47.760Now, I'm just, every action has an equal and opposite reaction.
00:49:53.680And so you can't demonize 74 million people, you can't dismiss every one of their complaints with, oh, you're racist, oh, you're sexist, oh, you're a Nazi.
00:50:24.100And until the left and the media understands their role in it, you, it's not that you just said you're bad people, you're racist, you have no place here, and we're coming after you.
00:50:35.460They also, at the same time, have done everything in their power to destroy their own credibility.
00:50:43.680The media and the government has lied, has twisted, has done everything, everything that destroys any kind of honest give and take, any kind of trust that you've had.
00:51:02.540So when you don't trust them at all, and you say, hey, wait a minute, I think there might be a problem, and then on top of it, then you say, I'm shutting everything down, shut up, sit down.
00:51:15.100This is, of course, they're surrounded, the left surrounds themselves with behavioral scientists.
00:51:26.760Glenn, I hate to sound this naive or this uninformed, but yesterday I had to ask someone what QAnon was, because I keep hearing it talked about in the media, but I didn't understand it.
00:51:41.500And then someone explained it to me, it was actually Gaston, he explained it to me, and I said, hey, the reason why something like QAnon can grow,
00:51:53.560and popularity, and take root, is because of the failure of the media, if the media did its job, there would be far less conspiracy theories.
00:52:05.060When you have Jeffrey Epstein, and all of the records, and all of the stuff that he had, all of the very powerful people he was involved in, go to jail, he's killed under unusual circumstances,
00:52:22.260and then it just goes away, of course conspiracies are going to come out of this, of course, because no one is saying, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
00:52:34.240That shouldn't have happened, that never happens, and we're still going to pursue exactly what did happen and who was involved, but they don't.
00:52:48.300When you sit on powerful television platforms and media outlets and say that Russia colluded, or Trump colluded with Russia, and they undermined the election,
00:53:03.400and it was all bogus BS, but they did that for years.
00:53:07.020People built television audiences off of that for years, and then boom, it goes away, but your conspiracy theory, which has been proven as bogus, just goes away, there's no repercussions from it, there's no de-platforming of people because of it,
00:53:26.100but on the other side, your theories are all evil, you must be destroyed, we must shut you down, the hypocrisy is too easy to spot for rational people living in reality, not to react and say, hey man, this is just unfair, this isn't America, this is a free speech country.
00:53:52.420Well, that's one of our founding principles, and we're destroying it in a power, political power grab.
00:54:03.400And the free speech that is guaranteed is the free speech to question and petition your government for answers.
00:54:15.180You know about the SolarWinds hack that happened, what was it, a month ago, where the government was hacked into, and it looks like it was Russia that did this big hack?
00:54:37.140Well, guess what was released at 2 o'clock in the afternoon on Wednesday, last Wednesday?
00:54:43.860Quote, the U.S. Justice Department has released information now that they are the latest federal agency to say that it was breached by hackers in the Russia-linked cyber attack that ripped through the government agency.
00:54:57.900So a month later, they come out and say 3% of the Justice Department's Microsoft email accounts were potentially accessed in the attack.
00:55:10.300It has eliminated the identified method by which the actor was assessing Microsoft email accounts.
00:55:18.160They were looking at and going through email accounts that contain sensitive information about investigations and national security-related issues.
00:55:30.880Why didn't you say this when everybody else was announcing that they were attacked?
00:55:40.400They were attacked and hacked in the same day and the same times as all of the other departments that already released this.
00:55:47.800Why would you release this on the day when you know the news is all going to be about what?
00:55:56.320The electors actually being verified by the Congress and then an extra gift of this.
00:56:03.580That's the time and day they release this.
00:56:07.280This is the kind of stuff that leads to conspiracy theories.
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00:59:18.800Listen, I'm not – I don't want to go into too much detail, but look, I'm just someone that you've got to deal honestly with, and you've got to do what you say you're going to do.
00:59:38.380Or, you know, I'm a rational person, but I wasn't dealt with in an honest fashion, and so I've got to move on.
00:59:52.560Well, I'm sorry to hear that, but you are now carving out your own career path, and because you've been at ESPN, and you really helped ESPN, and then they looked at you and were like,
01:00:07.640yeah, we don't agree with you politically, so beat it, you are – I assume you're building something that is as bulletproof as possible in today's world.
01:00:20.500Today and this weekend must have scared you a little bit.
01:00:23.500Yeah, certainly, but again, as I said in the previous segment, I've always believed journalism, other than the military, is the most patriotic thing you could do.
01:00:35.800And so – and even in the sports lane that I have been in, if people have followed my work, I've always included themes that were larger than sports and tried to explain America to sports fans.
01:00:49.740And so I want to continue down that path.
01:00:53.140I believe journalism is my contribution to this country and trying to wake people up and give them the facts and, from my point of view, and give them the information so that they can make better decisions.
01:01:11.480We have a very uninformed public right now because the mainstream media has completely failed them.
01:01:18.380That's why there's so much confusion and chaos.
01:01:21.440That's why, again, when you just talk about this false reality that people live in, LeBron James and other influencers that are currying favor with China keep explaining to people,
01:01:33.660oh, my God, if that were black people that had stormed the Capitol, what would have happened?
01:01:41.540And I'm like, hey, man, have you not watched what went on this entire summer with Black Lives Matter and Antifa burning buildings, murders of police officers?
01:01:53.700As you said in your Blaze editorial, there are two Americas with two separate realities.
01:02:01.100Jason Whitlock, back in just a second.
01:04:52.100And you are listening to this broadcast, I believe, for a reason.
01:04:57.260And we have an awful lot of work to do, an awful lot of work to do, and you need to understand what's happened this weekend and since last Wednesday has been breathtaking, breathtaking.
01:05:18.680We are going to have one of the head guys from Parler on in a few minutes.
01:05:23.320You can't find them online now because Amazon has removed them from the Internet.
01:05:34.280I can't tell you how many hosts I talked to over the weekend that were writing me and calling me and saying, Glenn, Glenn, Glenn, Glenn, Glenn, Glenn, Glenn.
01:06:43.060So we really need to do our work right now because we do need our own banking and financial systems, our own credit card processing systems.
01:06:55.560More than likely our own credit card brands, because Visa and Amex and all they will start canceling the accounts of outspoken Trump supporters or people that they all of a sudden deem or the left deems as a problem.
01:07:10.660And it will trickle down to gun owners.
01:07:32.900May I suggest, and I'm talking to myself as well, you learn shortwave because I'll do the show on shortwave.
01:07:42.080If I have to, we have to have our own platforms to publish, to share, conduct academic research, because the left will just look to silence any scientists, any professors, anybody with history, any researchers.
01:07:57.980It doesn't matter how qualified they are, they will block them from publishing any research or studies that contradict the official narrative.
01:08:32.680We need schools that are free and independent of any official groupthink influence.
01:08:40.220We need fact and reason-based education and teach how to think, not what to think.
01:08:50.200We need our own textbooks and history books, and the digital bonfires are already burning.
01:09:00.360If you have books that you like and they're on Kindle, you better buy a hard copy of them.
01:09:09.180I just got a book over at the museum because we're now collecting books that are changing, changing.
01:09:19.000And I've told you before that I've read Up With Slavery, the original, and then I read one that came out just a few years ago.
01:09:26.500And the preface said, about 10 years ago, five years ago, that we're not sure, scholars now argue, we're not sure if he was actually a slave or if any of this happened.
01:11:43.600The guy who sold it to us, sold it to us for a comparable song, because he wanted it in private hands, he knows us, he knows what we want to do with it.
01:11:53.740It completely disproves the 1619 Project.
01:11:57.740We have poured our time, our money, and our energy into doing these things.
01:12:17.840Do you think Jamie Dimon, the CEO of Chase Bank, is going to refuse requests to freeze your account if the left-aligned DOJ on a witch hunt requests it?
01:12:30.040Now, I'm not saying take your money out of the bank, but I'm asking you, do you think that that's not a reasonable guess?
01:12:38.280Did you know that after the financial crash, the Department of Homeland Security now can require a Department of Homeland Security agent to be in the room while you open your safety deposit box?
01:41:37.600The last two years, Janet Yellen has made $7 million in speaking fees from the same corporation she's now about to wield immense influence over.
01:41:46.680And the Democrats have had a clean sweep.
01:41:49.860And the first thing on Chuck Sumer's desk, the $2,000 stimulus increase and the money is coming from us or just printing it now.
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01:42:47.360Amy Peekoff is the chief policy officer at the social media platform Parler, which you're going to have a hard time finding today because Amazon has removed them.
01:43:03.520Amy is, she has her BS in math applied science, her JD at UCLA.
01:43:10.140She served as an editor on the UCLA Law Review.
01:43:13.840After she got her law degree, she went to USC, where she earned her Ph.D. in philosophy.
01:43:19.300She has taught at Southwestern Law School, Chapman University School of Law, and the United States Air Force Academy, also the University of North Carolina and University of Texas.
01:43:29.240So she really hasn't done a lot with her life, but we're going to cut her some slack today.
01:43:50.880Tell me what happened, what's been going on, where this whole thing stands.
01:43:56.020You know, so basically, let me, you know, make one thing clear, which is that everybody agrees that all of this violence inciting content, or if people are organizing to have an insurrection, etc., that this content is wrong and doesn't belong.
01:44:45.400We were told first by Apple and then by Amazon that if we didn't meet their expectations as to the handling of this huge flood of content, then they were just going to drop us completely.
01:44:57.420And, you know, we have a philosophical model at Parler that we both were nonpartisan, that we believe in freedom of expression, but at the same time, we want to respect privacy of users so that, you know, in the spirit of Section 230, the people who post the content are the ones who are responsible for the content.
01:45:17.220We are responsible for the content so long as we're taking reasonable steps once we become aware of the content.
01:45:23.840And what's happening in the market, because you have the established players of Facebook and Twitter using these algorithms to scan content constantly, 24-7, whether you have any particular suspicion about a particular user or not, your content is scanned.
01:45:40.620That's becoming the standard of what's reasonable on the Internet.
01:45:44.000And we say, no, we think that's an Orwellian standard and that we should go back to the model of the public square, where if you become aware that somebody is engaging in criminal activity, you take the appropriate action, which would be banning or reporting to law enforcement or both, right?
01:46:04.460Let me ask you, first of all, Apple did this, Amazon did this, they kind of all dogpiled on you.
01:46:12.900Is this a violation of any antitrust laws?
01:46:16.840You know, that is unclear, and I'm not an antitrust law expert about this, so I'm going to leave that.
01:46:22.720You know, I am an academic lawyer, and I did a lot of research into the theoretical foundations of privacy, and I have a whole theory about that.
01:46:30.880And that's why I'm at Parler, right, because I share their affinity for privacy and for trying to implement it on the Internet and prevent 1984 from becoming reality, right?
01:46:42.040But it doesn't mean that we're being pressured, right?
01:46:46.040We're pressured to conform to the exact same standards of content moderation and also data mining and, you know, algorithm scanning that our competitors use, that these entrenched big social media are using.
01:47:02.400So they told us that if we would just, you know, build our own platform, that'd be fine.
01:47:34.860And the people who have been the biggest detractors and the ones who are really trying to take us down, I think they need to ask themselves the question, do they want to live in the world in which every single piece of content that you put on the Internet is scanned by some algorithm for so-called wrong think, 24 hours a day, seven days a week.
01:47:55.080Now, mind you, I agree that this activity is illegal, but once you introduce scanning, you use that scanning for anything, the door is open.
01:48:05.460And I think that you should not be surveilled in a free country unless there is some particular suspicion about you.
01:48:12.560That's the spirit of the Fourth Amendment, and that's what we've been trying to do at Parliament.
01:48:15.840All right, so you agree with the speech that is plotting and planning violence, that that should be moderated and removed.
01:48:29.560It's the methodology that I disagree with.
01:48:32.160I mean, nobody – and, you know, at Parler, our goal has been to provide this nonpartisan town square for productive discussions on the important issues of the day.
01:48:42.020And if anything stops productive discussions because it stops the thinking behind them, it is force or threat the force.
01:48:49.780So, of course, we disagree with that content being on our platform.
01:48:54.220And what all of us, every platform, even the ones with the algorithms have been struggling with, is this huge flood of content in this extraordinary time.
01:49:05.400You know, on Twitter, we had Hang Mike Pence trending, I think, on Saturday.
01:49:17.280We have a report from Vice today that Parler has been hacked into, and 70 terabytes of information, including our driver's license, everything, has fallen into the hands of hackers.
01:49:35.400Well, first of all, I know that it's been the policy of Parler not to actually retain the driver's license, that once a verification process is done, that that is destroyed.
01:54:01.860We are scrambling right now as we speak.
01:54:04.840And I guess being cut off was a little bit fortuitous because I got a message from our colleagues that out in the world of the hacker world,
01:54:15.620there is a reputable hacker who says that the allegations about Parler's data haven't been hacked are actually false.
01:54:22.480So we've had this happen before where people said there was a hack.
01:55:55.460Amy, we are in a mess and we wish you all the best.
01:56:01.920And if there's anything we can do and please stay in touch with us, you know, as long as everybody is is understands freedom of speech with the common sense,
01:56:15.900you can't plot to the overthrow of the United States.
01:56:19.020If everybody understands it, we are all on the same page.
01:56:23.740We are going to continue to do everything that we can to save civil discourse, free and open discourse on the Internet while respecting privacy.
01:56:43.040OK, but right now what we have is we have a few players who are very established, who are dictating the terms.
01:56:52.020And in fact, Mark Zuckerberg was, you know, Facebook was taking out ads in The New York Times recently calling for improved Internet regulation.
01:57:00.420And what that means is that he would like to see regulations that mandate the sort of content moderation standards that Facebook uses.
01:57:07.820If they want to make that decision for themselves, that's fine.
01:57:10.680But they're even lobbying to have it put into law.
01:57:40.720Because of you, Glenn, we are as prepared as we can be for what's coming.
01:57:46.220We have listened to you since Fox News days.
01:57:48.860And I remember the times you said these things were coming and I can still see the look on Bill O'Reilly's face as he sort of looked down his nose as you said.
01:57:59.760And I smile to myself when I hear him repeating exactly the things that you've said.