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00:03:20.720 Hello, America.

00:03:22.440 Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program from Dallas.

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00:03:29.160 We have so many things to talk about and discuss today.

00:03:35.580 And we're going to start with what Tucker Carlson just released just a few minutes ago

00:03:40.880 about Thomas Crooks, the guy who apparently killed or tried to kill Donald Trump.

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00:05:00.860 Let me walk you through some things that Tucker Carlson has just released.

00:05:05.420 And I want you to hear it not as partisan but as an American who I think deserves straight answers

00:05:13.840 because there's something happening in our country and we all know it

00:05:20.300 and it's easy for us to get lost and go down the road of conspiracies.

00:05:25.820 And, you know, one of my favorite lines from John Kennedy, you know, Senator John Kennedy,

00:05:32.560 is we need some new conspiracy theories because the old ones all turned out to be right.

00:05:39.740 And we don't need new conspiracy theories.

00:05:42.660 What we need are conspiracy facts.

00:05:45.100 And we are starting to see the outline of something that does not, should not make everybody feel really good.

00:05:51.620 And I'll get into that here in just a second.

00:05:54.260 But first, the more we learn about Thomas Matthew Crooks,

00:05:58.680 this is the would-be assassin that got within an inch, a fraction of an inch,

00:06:03.580 of killing President Trump, the story bends in Washington.

00:06:10.800 And when a story bends, that tells me somebody is very, very busy trying to keep it from breaking,

00:06:20.100 from day one, the FBI and their cheerleaders in the mainstream media, MSNBC, CNN,

00:06:26.880 the whole alphabet soup, all pushed one storyline.

00:06:30.160 Crooks was pro-Trump, anti-immigration, a fringe right-winger radicalized by MAGA memes.

00:06:37.620 Remember that?

00:06:38.440 That's what the Biden FBI came out and said about him.

00:06:41.400 Case closed.

00:06:42.440 And then we never heard anything else because the case, the story isn't just,

00:06:46.080 it's incomplete.

00:06:48.620 And as we're finding out now, it is also very, very misleading.

00:06:52.140 We were told over and over again, he had almost no online footprint.

00:06:58.860 How many times did you hear that, Stu?

00:07:01.100 He had almost no online footprint.

00:07:03.420 Yeah, I do remember, as you kind of mentioned, bits and pieces that came out about how he said this.

00:07:08.540 But it wasn't a prolific poster, was always what they said.

00:07:11.900 Yeah, and, you know, how did this guy come up with this sophisticated way to kill without having any online footprint?

00:07:18.060 Okay.

00:07:19.260 So, apparently, there's a very large footprint.

00:07:22.440 He had a Discord account, a Snapchat account.

00:07:26.440 He was extremely active on YouTube, his comment history.

00:07:30.440 And that's where things start to get really, really strange.

00:07:33.840 So, let me take you through the phases of the guy who tried to kill Donald Trump.

00:07:38.880 Here's phase one.

00:07:40.860 In 2019, violent, yes, but directed at Democrats.

00:07:47.140 In 2019, Crook's YouTube comments were violent, very violent, no question.

00:07:53.560 But they were directed almost entirely to anti-Trump people and Democratic officials.

00:07:58.500 When I say violent, he was talking about decapitations and shootings taking out government officials.

00:08:08.460 Now, we all know.

00:08:10.920 I mean, you may not know.

00:08:12.440 I know.

00:08:13.780 But you may just feel like, of course, that's happening.

00:08:17.820 The government is monitoring everything.

00:08:21.420 Okay?

00:08:21.760 There are key words.

00:08:23.640 Decapitation of fill in the politician.

00:08:27.140 That shows up.

00:08:28.500 That rings alarm bells.

00:08:30.960 If you are talking about violent things and politics, you get on a list.

00:08:36.860 It's just, you know, you should get on a list.

00:08:39.680 You're talking about things like this, taking out government officials.

00:08:43.060 You should.

00:08:44.040 The government should be monitoring stuff like that.

00:08:46.900 Now, remember, this is in a period when the U.S. government, we later have learned,

00:08:52.340 was monitoring social media more aggressively than any other point in U.S. history.

00:08:58.120 Okay?

00:08:58.360 They were looking for these kinds of things.

00:09:00.800 People were arrested for memes at this time.

00:09:05.600 But crooks, nothing.

00:09:07.600 Nothing.

00:09:08.200 Nothing.

00:09:08.280 Nothing.

00:09:08.400 Nothing.

00:09:09.480 Not a warning.

00:09:10.660 Not a knock on the door.

00:09:12.020 Not one single action.

00:09:14.920 Why?

00:09:15.660 Why?

00:09:18.120 Because he, at that time, was apparently a MAGA supporter.

00:09:23.900 Why was there no knock on his door?

00:09:27.060 Okay.

00:09:27.880 Now he has a pivot.

00:09:29.160 And I'm not really sure why this happened.

00:09:32.860 Something happened.

00:09:33.440 And it might have been COVID.

00:09:34.780 But here's the part of the story.

00:09:36.140 No one ever told you.

00:09:37.160 In 2020, Crooks' online comments, they flip.

00:09:41.120 And they flip dramatically.

00:09:43.480 Suddenly, he is violently anti-Trump.

00:09:48.340 He is anti-Trump supporters.

00:09:51.120 And, again, still extremely violent.

00:09:54.620 But the FBI and the media, why did they only report the first half of the story?

00:10:01.680 The half that fit the predetermined storyline.

00:10:04.840 I think we all know.

00:10:06.000 That's the way the system was working.

00:10:09.660 Why leave out the part where he abruptly becomes very anti-Trump?

00:10:15.320 Why not tell the American people the whole truth?

00:10:17.960 Why frame him exclusively as a pro-Trump radical when the data clearly contradicts this?

00:10:24.920 He was.

00:10:26.100 And then he wasn't.

00:10:27.220 You tell me.

00:10:29.420 Okay.

00:10:30.580 Then enters somebody we don't know who this is.

00:10:34.640 Named Willie Teppes.

00:10:37.200 T-E-P-E-S.

00:10:40.200 He's the ghost in the machine.

00:10:43.600 Around the same time of the flip, a bizarre online persona appears in Crooks' orbit.

00:10:50.020 Willie Teppes.

00:10:51.580 Now, this account begins encouraging Crooks' violence openly.

00:10:57.980 Agreeing with assassinations.

00:10:59.960 Approving of attacks on government officials.

00:11:02.580 But here's the kicker.

00:11:03.780 The name Willie Teppes appears on a national socialist website in Sweden.

00:11:08.280 Now, we don't know if that's the Willie Teppes, but that's the one you can find online.

00:11:14.840 And we know for a fact that the State Department and the intelligence community monitor these circles aggressively.

00:11:22.840 Okay.

00:11:23.880 So, now you have our State Department.

00:11:27.860 We have our intelligence community that is monitoring people online, especially Nazis in the rest of the world and Nazis here.

00:11:38.780 And yet, there's nothing.

00:11:41.540 Not a single red flag is triggered.

00:11:44.040 Not a single investigation.

00:11:45.480 No monitoring.

00:11:46.360 No intervention.

00:11:47.480 So, why was this FBI monitoring, you know, Catholic churches and priests, but nothing on Thomas Matthews Crooks?

00:12:00.120 Why?

00:12:02.700 You're going to have to draw your own conclusions.

00:12:05.920 And I honestly don't know the reason.

00:12:07.460 I have fears, but I don't know the reason.

00:12:11.320 Now, here's where his YouTube history goes absolutely insane.

00:12:15.580 As the assassination attempt nears, Crooks' search history explodes.

00:12:21.980 Tucker laid this out.

00:12:23.560 He searched Trump hundreds of times.

00:12:26.800 He searched Jack Ruby.

00:12:28.720 He searched bomb making, car attacks, sniper attacks, successful assassinations, how to escape police gunfire.

00:12:37.060 All of these things should ring every NSA alarm bell.

00:12:43.280 Nothing.

00:12:43.760 Nothing.

00:12:44.660 Again, nothing.

00:12:46.800 Not then.

00:12:47.660 Not during the attempt.

00:12:49.100 Not afterward.

00:12:50.720 They didn't try to stop him.

00:12:52.260 They didn't stop him.

00:12:53.480 They didn't prevent or try to prevent.

00:12:55.840 They didn't warn anyone.

00:12:57.760 Instead, as soon as he was shot, they rushed out a narrative.

00:13:02.160 A very specific narrative.

00:13:04.700 And then they shut down anything that conflicted with it.

00:13:07.520 Okay, as if that's not weird enough, here's where it gets even more unusual.

00:13:15.180 The FBI, Trump's own FBI at the time, kept all of Crooks' shifting political and violent history quiet.

00:13:24.360 Okay, I understand it when it's Biden's FBI.

00:13:29.740 But now Trump's FBI.

00:13:32.060 Now, why didn't Trump's FBI immediately come out?

00:13:35.520 Because I know that Dan Bongino, we have it on tape where he is saying the guy had no footprint, no digital footprint.

00:13:45.340 And he's being questioned in front of the senator of the House.

00:13:49.080 And he's like, look, that's not possible.

00:13:51.200 There's no way this 20-something-year-old had no digital footprint.

00:13:54.980 Well, now he's second in command at the FBI.

00:14:00.100 He would know this.

00:14:01.620 Why didn't the FBI do anything?

00:14:06.120 And I want to be really careful on Trump's FBI or Biden's FBI.

00:14:11.820 Because I'm not sure there's a difference anymore.

00:14:16.280 I want you to think of the FBI and this deep state.

00:14:20.360 I want you to think of an iceberg.

00:14:22.620 Okay, you see an iceberg and you just see just the top of it.

00:14:26.840 Two-thirds of that is under the water.

00:14:29.300 So we're seeing the tops change.

00:14:32.600 And we're seeing people put in at the top and we're like, oh, the iceberg is different now.

00:14:37.100 But I'm not sure that anybody has any idea how deep that iceberg goes.

00:14:43.180 So I'm not willing to blame the people up at the top.

00:14:48.280 I'm questioning, does anyone know how deep this goes?

00:14:52.080 Because I don't think it matters who's running it.

00:14:54.420 Even more bizarre, they suddenly release the body for cremation.

00:15:03.880 There's no extended autopsy.

00:15:05.680 There's no forensic review.

00:15:07.420 There's no independent experts.

00:15:09.260 It's just all gone.

00:15:10.560 And the crime scene is washed and scrubbed.

00:15:13.680 It's all washed, literally washed and scrubbed before a full reconstruction can be done.

00:15:20.660 Why would you do that?

00:15:22.940 You don't do that in a presidential assassination attempt.

00:15:26.320 You don't do that in a local homicide case.

00:15:30.220 Unless you want something gone.

00:15:32.900 Unless you want something buried.

00:15:35.460 Unless you want a narrative and only that narrative to survive.

00:15:39.960 So that's what Tucker laid out today.

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00:17:41.540 Okay, so let's start with some questions that have to be asked just on this case.

00:17:58.740 Why did the FBI present only the early pro-Trump posts, and they hid the anti-Trump phase?

00:18:08.540 There's two answers that need to be had.

00:18:12.200 The first one is under Biden, and I think we know the answer to that.

00:18:16.700 They were building a narrative.

00:18:18.280 Okay.

00:18:19.020 But it should be asked and answered.

00:18:21.020 Why did that happen?

00:18:22.540 Who was involved in that decision?

00:18:26.420 Then you have to say, okay, after the election, why did the FBI still toe that line?

00:18:33.700 Who made that decision?

00:18:35.460 Next, we know they're monitoring people.

00:18:41.180 I'm for the government finding, hey, how do I build a bomb?

00:18:46.580 How do I get away from an assassination scene?

00:18:50.740 Successful assassinations, and where are these political people being, you know, where are they going to be in the future?

00:18:57.140 That should be tied together by an algorithm, and it should be notified, so somebody is watching this, okay?

00:19:04.920 We know it's already being done, so why did they ignore Crook's really unbelievable threats?

00:19:14.560 When ordinary Americans were arrested for memes, why was he completely ignored?

00:19:22.040 Why did the intelligence agency, monitoring extremism, somehow miss a kid openly fantasizing about assassinations?

00:19:29.960 And then connecting with some guy it looks like is from Sweden, who is part of a big Nazi movement over in Sweden.

00:19:40.140 Why was that ignored?

00:19:43.460 Why did they clean the scene prematurely?

00:19:46.920 Why was every digital trace of his political shift kept out of the public discussion?

00:19:55.100 Why did they say he had almost no footprint when the footprint looks to be really, really large?

00:20:01.760 It was just scrubbed.

00:20:02.740 Why did every single mistake that our FBI and government made, why does it seem to point in the same direction?

00:20:15.400 Towards ignorance?

00:20:17.920 Negligence?

00:20:19.280 Hiding inconvenient data?

00:20:21.700 Shaping a political narrative?

00:20:24.780 When every accident points the same way, it stops looking like an accident.

00:20:29.860 So, was this incompetence?

00:20:32.740 I don't know what conclusion Tucker is pulling from all of this.

00:20:39.760 I just appreciate the information.

00:20:41.940 And I'm not telling you this is a conspiracy.

00:20:44.100 I am telling you there's something wrong here.

00:20:47.060 There's something very wrong.

00:20:48.460 The official story is impossible to believe.

00:20:52.900 And the question every American should be asking themselves is really simple.

00:20:57.440 Why would our government, the same government that monitors everything,

00:21:00.460 everything suddenly become blind, deaf, and mute the moment a presidential assassin emerges on their radar?

00:21:07.260 It's not a partisan question because under one president, you can say, oh, well, that's because they were doing an error.

00:21:18.080 But then when the president's changed and this president was the one that they tried to kill and he said, I want answers to this,

00:21:25.140 the narrative didn't change.

00:21:26.560 Why?

00:21:27.900 Why?

00:21:28.340 Why?

00:21:29.760 That's not a pro-Trump question.

00:21:32.040 That is a self-preservation question.

00:21:35.300 If the government can see everything that you do and somehow missed all of this.

00:21:43.100 What does that say about our FBI and our DOJ and our CIA?

00:21:47.580 Because they all would have been involved in this.

00:21:50.600 I mean, they're either lying, they're incompetent, or they only monitor the people they want to monitor.

00:21:56.600 However, none of these options should help us sleep at night.

00:22:03.140 The FBI and the mainstream media, MSNBC for sure, referenced leaks from Crooks' social media, the YouTube comments,

00:22:13.340 that showed he was pro-Trump and anti-immigration.

00:22:17.100 We were also told that Crooks had almost no online social footprint, but he had Discord, Snapchat, very active YouTube.

00:22:23.760 His YouTube comments in 2019, very violent, decapitating of government officials, and then something happened, he switches.

00:22:34.680 Something's not right here.

00:22:38.180 I think this iceberg is way beneath the waterline.

00:22:44.140 I think this thing goes so deep, I'm not sure.

00:22:47.420 I have a friend who said to me,

00:22:56.240 I think the CIA is completely out of control.

00:23:00.500 And this is a guy, you would not know his name,

00:23:02.960 and you wouldn't know his name for a reason.

00:23:05.000 But he was very, very highly placed years ago.

00:23:08.480 And this is the kind of stuff he did.

00:23:10.520 And he said, I don't think the CIA answers to anybody anymore.

00:23:17.180 I'm not sure that it's just the CIA.

00:23:21.120 I'm not sure.

00:23:22.200 It feels a little like you can shuffle the chairs on the deck of the Titanic.

00:23:28.220 But it's what's below the waterline that really makes the difference on that ship.

00:23:35.540 All right.

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00:25:39.560 I've got a podcast that I think is mind-boggling.

00:25:44.120 I have not done all of my own homework on it.

00:25:47.740 I've done enough to hold the interview, but I found this so fascinating that, I mean,

00:25:52.840 this is going to take me months to really research and dig into and come up with how I really feel about this

00:25:58.940 because this podcast delves into the scriptures, the Bible, the Apocrypha Bible,

00:26:06.860 legend questions about how things like the pyramids came to be, etc., etc., and it all leads to transhumanism

00:26:16.240 and the mark of the beast and the Antichrist.

00:26:21.720 And it is something I, you know, the guy is Timothy Albarino, and I did this podcast with him yesterday,

00:26:29.760 and I said to him at the end, I don't know about all the story that you gave because I have not seen it.

00:26:35.420 I mean, he gave all the scriptures and where it is, and it's throughout the Bible, and you're like,

00:26:40.440 I didn't even notice that.

00:26:42.020 I've read that scripture a million times.

00:26:43.700 I didn't really think about that.

00:26:47.420 And it's everywhere.

00:26:55.680 And if he's right, as I said to him, I can't tell you about this, but the thread,

00:27:00.280 the way you've connected the dots, I believe is right.

00:27:04.200 And it is one of the most important warnings to the people of faith that I think I've ever heard.

00:27:14.400 I want you to listen.

00:27:15.840 This is where he gets into the post-human apocalypse.

00:27:19.180 Listen to Cut 9.

00:27:22.160 I asked him about the golden age.

00:27:24.300 It's coming.

00:27:25.540 What does it mean?

00:27:26.860 So the events that led to the destruction of the old world are going to be repeated to some degree

00:27:32.760 at the end of the age.

00:27:34.400 We are living at the end of the age.

00:27:37.240 And this phenomenon of the gods commingling themselves with the daughters of men

00:27:48.400 and this idea of hybrid beings and everything that was done in the antediluvian world,

00:27:54.400 the corruption of all flesh, I think is, again, going to be repeated to some extent,

00:28:00.680 not exactly in the same way.

00:28:03.620 So when I set out to write my book, Birthright, it was prompted by a question

00:28:10.480 that I had been ruminating on for a while.

00:28:16.000 And the question is simply this.

00:28:17.720 And this question, by the way, is a question that is unique to our times

00:28:22.360 and has not really been something that earlier generations have had to contemplate.

00:28:27.780 But we have to contend with this question right now.

00:28:32.000 And it's simply this.

00:28:33.760 What does it mean to be a human being?

00:28:36.500 And is our humanity worth preserving?

00:28:42.040 That is the most imperative question that we can ask.

00:28:45.360 Those are the most imperative questions that we can ask today.

00:28:49.080 And because we are on the brink of what I describe as a post-human apocalypse.

00:28:58.000 And we are advancing at an alarming pace toward the end of humanity as we know it.

00:29:07.880 And this is not alarmism.

00:29:10.440 This is not hyperbole.

00:29:11.720 This is exactly what the futurists and the technologists are saying.

00:29:17.820 You have, of course, you have, you have, you have, you have, um, um, um, Ray Kurzweil.

00:29:24.180 Ray Kurzweil.

00:29:24.980 He's worse.

00:29:26.020 That's right.

00:29:26.680 Um, uh, Harari.

00:29:28.000 You have these different, these different futurists out there who are predicting the end of humanity

00:29:31.700 in the next hundred years.

00:29:33.460 There will be no, in the next hundred to 130 years, there will be no more human beings left

00:29:39.260 on planet earth.

00:29:39.980 Well, what do they mean?

00:29:40.920 It's because we are, we are, in some sense, building the mechanism of our own destruction

00:29:48.000 right now.

00:29:48.720 We are creating the tools that are going, that are going to enable us to redefine human

00:29:55.120 biology, to remake Adam.

00:29:59.380 And really what it amounts to is to, um, to become something other than Adam.

00:30:05.260 This is called post-human.

00:30:07.920 And, and where we are right now.

00:30:10.300 And you're talking specifically about current transhumanism.

00:30:14.060 That's precisely what I was about to say.

00:30:15.800 Emerging man and machine.

00:30:17.540 That's exactly right.

00:30:18.420 We're over here.

00:30:19.100 We're still human.

00:30:20.440 We're going to a post-human condition.

00:30:23.120 Again, what I refer to as a post-human apocalypse.

00:30:25.380 And the transitional period between this is called trans human.

00:30:29.260 And that's precisely why it's called trans humanism, because it's a transition.

00:30:34.380 The term is, is it indicates a transition.

00:30:38.220 It's transitory from human to post-human.

00:30:41.120 So we're human right now, but in the future, we are going to become something other than human.

00:30:45.600 And he goes into discussing the spiritual ramifications.

00:30:51.360 He's talking about the end of the age and the last end of the age when all flesh was corrupted.

00:30:56.480 He's talking about Noah.

00:30:57.900 Why did God want to destroy everybody?

00:31:01.640 Like, everything was destroyed, right?

00:31:05.920 Noah said that, I mean, God said, no, there's nothing besides you.

00:31:09.760 Nothing that can live.

00:31:12.460 What?

00:31:14.140 His theory from the book of Enoch, beginning in the book of Genesis, going to 2 Peter, everything else,

00:31:22.740 is, if it's correct, he's absolutely 100% right that we're about to repeat this whole scenario.

00:31:33.780 That we mingled with something that was not human, and it corrupted us.

00:31:42.820 And his point is, if you start corrupting your body and upgrading your body through AI, through robotics,

00:31:56.900 he's like, it's not a problem.

00:31:58.860 If you're gene splicing, there's a gene that you have, and it's gone haywire,

00:32:03.460 and you're taking another human gene or pieces of it, and you're splicing it into you,

00:32:08.120 so you have it corrected, that's human to human.

00:32:10.880 That's fine.

00:32:11.420 But the minute you start taking something non-human and putting it into your body,

00:32:17.820 and it is an upgrade to your body, in other words, the AI system,

00:32:24.120 he said, you become something other than human, and you lose your birthright.

00:32:31.520 Christ came to save humans, and he's saying that you lose your birthright of salvation.

00:32:42.400 This, to me, and I asked him about this, I said, you know what, something just made sense to me on this.

00:32:50.420 Why is it in the book of Revelation, once you accept the mark of the beast, there's no going back.

00:32:56.960 He's not sorting anybody out after that.

00:32:59.020 You accepted the mark of the beast, that's it.

00:33:00.940 A lot of people, we know, are going to be fooled by the mark of the beast.

00:33:05.600 How come there's no conversation about that afterwards?

00:33:07.840 There's nothing?

00:33:09.220 There's nothing.

00:33:09.860 Lord, I am so sorry.

00:33:11.020 I really thought I was on the right side for a long time, and then I tried, but I couldn't get this off, whatever it is.

00:33:17.520 Why is there no salvation?

00:33:20.260 Why is there no going back?

00:33:21.360 He said, because you have edited your humanity.

00:33:25.760 You have lost your humanity.

00:33:27.660 You have upgraded into something else, and you can't take it back.

00:33:32.760 So, it's not necessarily a punishment that there's no salvation for you.

00:33:38.300 It's just the way it is.

00:33:40.140 You've changed the basic makeup of who Christ came to save.

00:33:47.380 It's an amazing thing.

00:33:48.740 I don't know if it's right, but it is so worth listening to.

00:33:53.760 It is really an amazing theory, and I invite you to listen to it.

00:33:59.480 It's the podcast, Timothy Albarino.

00:34:03.000 It's this week's podcast.

00:34:04.500 It's available right now at Blaze TV.

00:34:06.520 If you're a subscriber, you can listen to it.

00:34:08.900 I mean, after this show, I mean, you know, you've got to get this one, too.

00:34:12.660 You can listen to it any time at your leisure, but also it comes out wherever you get your podcast tomorrow,

00:34:17.780 and it's a must-listen to.

00:34:23.860 Kind of an interesting place to go.

00:34:29.480 It just makes so much sense to me.

00:34:32.440 Let me play cut one.

00:34:34.260 Here is an AI company building bots of your dead family members.

00:34:39.340 Listen to this.

00:34:41.940 He's getting bigger.

00:34:43.800 See?

00:34:44.460 Oh, honey, that's wonderful.

00:34:46.980 Kicking like crazy.

00:34:48.600 He's listening.

00:34:49.800 Put your hand on your tummy and hum to him.

00:34:52.960 You used to love that.

00:34:57.020 Hi, Grandma.

00:34:58.280 Hey, Charlie.

00:34:59.080 How was school today?

00:35:00.320 It was really fun.

00:35:01.480 I made this crazy shot in basketball.

00:35:02.960 I don't really care that much about basketball.

00:35:05.140 What about the crush?

00:35:06.960 Stop.

00:35:07.440 Grandma, stop talking.

00:35:08.180 Just tell me one thing.

00:35:09.580 Look who's going to be a great-grandmother.

00:35:10.900 Oh, Charlie.

00:35:12.260 Oh, congratulations.

00:35:14.840 She says that he's been kicking a lot, though.

00:35:16.640 Like, a little too much.

00:35:18.620 Tell her to put her hand on her tummy and hum to him.

00:35:23.100 You loved that.

00:35:24.380 You would have loved this moment.

00:35:28.580 You can call any time.

00:35:33.580 Before Charlie.

00:35:35.480 Okay, Mom, I just need a quick video.

00:35:37.260 Is this like an audition or something?

00:35:39.380 No, Mom.

00:35:40.500 Just three minutes.

00:35:41.420 Do you need my best sign?

00:35:43.120 Can I see another one?

00:35:44.140 I can play the piano.

00:35:45.580 You're actually so talented.

00:35:47.120 I am.

00:35:47.780 I'm absolutely.

00:35:48.780 I'm your mother, after all.

00:35:51.140 Keep going.

00:35:51.860 Let me start by telling us a little bit about yourself.

00:35:57.600 Take three minutes that will last.

00:36:00.800 Shows at the end, it shows the real mother being captured by AI into, you know, into like

00:36:10.560 a camera, you know, just the phone, and capturing her.

00:36:14.600 And then, you know, tell me three minutes about yourself.

00:36:17.080 And then you get a lifetime of grandma.

00:36:19.400 Do you remember the story, that short story that I wrote years ago for Black Mirror?

00:36:24.180 It was this.

00:36:24.800 This is the beginning of it.

00:36:26.200 You remember that?

00:36:26.920 Yeah, yeah.

00:36:28.040 It's been a while.

00:36:28.320 This was the beginning of it.

00:36:29.680 I've got to write that story.

00:36:31.320 I've just got to do it on radio or something.

00:36:33.960 But it's that story.

00:36:36.220 Don't go there.

00:36:37.820 Don't go there.

00:36:38.980 It's going to be tempting to a lot of people, though, you know, that have lost.

00:36:42.400 I mean, there was also another documentary made about this particular thing called Pet

00:36:48.240 Cemetery.

00:36:49.520 And if I remember right, putting the kid back in the Pet Cemetery and coming back to life

00:36:57.140 didn't work out all that well.

00:36:58.900 No.

00:36:59.040 There was some negative.

00:37:00.340 But I mean, I do think there, especially in those moments after someone's lost, like,

00:37:05.780 this is going to be something that's tempting to people to go down that road.

00:37:09.000 I mean, I think about, you know, like, especially for people like right now, because like, you

00:37:13.300 know, my dad passed away in 2014, but it was kind of before the phone thing.

00:37:20.520 There's not tons of video of him.

00:37:22.640 Yeah.

00:37:22.880 You know what I mean?

00:37:23.540 Like, you know, and it sucks.

00:37:25.720 Like, it would be cool to be able to go back and see that.

00:37:28.540 And I'm not saying that I'm going to entertain this particular process, but like, it would

00:37:32.880 be cool to see more and be able to kind of, you know, like be able to relive it, right?

00:37:38.760 Like, it's gone.

00:37:40.020 And I think a lot of people will go down this road.

00:37:43.200 Oh, yeah.

00:37:44.220 Oh, yes.

00:37:46.440 It's the same.

00:37:46.980 I always go back to thinking about the times we've done on this show where a new technology

00:37:51.380 comes out and we are flooded by calls and protests against it.

00:37:56.540 You know, I'm never going to put my information into that.

00:38:00.160 I would never scan my finger.

00:38:01.820 I would never scan my eye.

00:38:03.520 I would never what toll tags.

00:38:05.380 It's going to happen.

00:38:05.740 They're tracking us.

00:38:07.020 All of these things happen.

00:38:08.180 And then everyone's like, well, yeah, but it does make my life like 3% better.

00:38:12.500 So I'm going to do it.

00:38:14.240 Let me give you one other thing just to make you feel a little better about AI, at least

00:38:17.860 the stuff coming from Russia.

00:38:19.100 This is from ABC News.

00:38:21.760 Play the cut to the humanoid robot that was just unveiled in Russia.

00:38:26.620 Did you see this?

00:38:27.680 He's on stage.

00:38:28.540 He comes out on stage and he is so clunky.

00:38:31.580 He looks like a Tesla robot and then just falls.

00:38:35.460 They have to shut him down.

00:38:36.600 It's like.

00:38:37.400 So the good news is we don't have to worry about Russia catching us anytime soon.

00:38:45.060 They hide it behind a curtain.

00:38:48.200 It's just so bad.

00:38:49.760 They execute the entire audience afterwards.

00:38:52.280 You didn't see that.

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00:39:07.060 The dog gets as far away.

00:39:09.540 Look, he's, you know, wondering where it all went wrong.

00:39:12.960 You might be doing that as well.

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00:42:00.460 So, uh, something that I have an awful lot of respect for, uh, Whitney Webb, I just think

00:42:05.100 she is, I mean, she's so well-researched.

00:42:08.180 Um, she has just posted something on X that's gone viral now.

00:42:12.660 My feeling is that it is now safe to release the information that Epstein was really a

00:42:18.040 sex trafficker as a side gig and was mainly an intelligence asset of Israel and the U S

00:42:24.080 a big time financial criminal on behalf of transnational capital.

00:42:28.140 I would argue transnational organized crime disguised as transnational capital an arms

00:42:33.440 trader because of the people he was helping had stolen so much of America's wealth and

00:42:37.200 had taken control over so much of the government.

00:42:39.000 And that's why even emitting the true breath of the scandal and operation doesn't seem

00:42:43.280 to move the needle criminals are in charge and they run both parties.

00:42:46.760 They have created infrastructure for neo-feudalism enforced by technology that are hurting us

00:42:51.780 into the corral opt out of AI digital ID and the surveillance state that Epstein associates

00:42:58.640 built while we still can.

00:43:01.040 Also, all of the people who smeared me with this last year for pointing out J.D.

00:43:05.260 Vance's Peter Thiel connections and why Thiel is bad should also be shaming me for not trusting

00:43:09.620 in Trump, uh, should be eating their own shirts right now.

00:43:12.600 After the recent releases, you sold the American people Epstein associates as political saviors

00:43:17.620 and you should apologize.

00:43:19.140 You know, I don't, I, I don't know where to stand on this with Whitney other than I respect

00:43:25.540 her.

00:43:25.660 And I think she has far more information on, especially the Epstein thing.

00:43:29.620 She's probably the leading expert in the world on Epstein.

00:43:32.880 So I trust her, uh, opinion on this, but this is something I've been saying from the very

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00:43:39.000 If you don't think that he was a possible double agent, this is, I mean, he has all of

00:43:45.900 the earmarks.

00:43:46.660 This is exactly what we did in the cold war and fighting against the Nazis.

00:43:52.540 What?

00:43:52.740 We stopped doing that.

00:43:54.840 This, he has all of the earmarks of somebody that another country, maybe Israel and the

00:44:00.180 United States colluded and worked together with to get information.

00:44:06.180 I mean, why is that so hard to believe?

00:44:10.000 It seems logical to me.

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00:46:20.440 Well, hello, America.

00:46:22.380 It's Friday, and I'm very excited.

00:46:25.580 You may not be, you may not be, but today is my Dietrich Bonhoeffer moment.

00:46:30.320 Now, I thought a Dietrich Bonhoeffer moment may come my way someday,

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00:46:37.940 I am so happy it's coming this way.

00:46:40.620 My Dietrich Bonhoeffer moment is Dr. Carlson yesterday said some things about Dietrich Bonhoeffer,

00:46:46.580 and everybody is spinning out about it in a million different directions,

00:46:49.840 and I'm like, no, no, no, no, I'm the Dietrich Bonhoeffer guy.

00:46:52.940 Is this my moment?

00:46:54.100 I can tell you the Dietrich Bonhoeffer story and the truth about it.

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00:48:22.020 I'm going to bring this up.

00:48:25.140 Tucker did a podcast yesterday I listened to, or a couple of days ago,

00:48:28.420 whenever it came out.

00:48:29.200 I listened to it yesterday.

00:48:30.960 And the reason why I listened to it is because so many friends were like,

00:48:36.100 he's talking about Dietrich Bonhoeffer, Glenn, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:48:38.920 And I don't want to get in.

00:48:40.360 I'm not going to talk about personalities.

00:48:41.920 I just want to talk about facts.

00:48:44.760 You draw your own conclusion about who you listen to,

00:48:47.380 and you can listen to them or not listen to them.

00:48:49.020 That's fine.

00:48:50.140 But let's make sure we correct facts and not make it about personalities.

00:48:55.020 Okay.

00:48:58.020 Dietrich Bonhoeffer is one of my heroes.

00:49:00.540 Dietrich Bonhoeffer is one of the greatest men to ever live.

00:49:04.220 Dietrich Bonhoeffer is a Christian pastor.

00:49:08.400 And let me set it up this way.

00:49:09.760 When the Third Reich grew, and the Weimar Republic collapsed,

00:49:16.320 there was this movement in Christianity that happened quickly.

00:49:27.940 Within the first year of the end of the Weimar and the beginning of the Nazi regime,

00:49:34.720 within a year, 60% of the churches ridded themselves of everything Jewish.

00:49:41.000 Now, that's hard to do when your main hero figure is a Jew,

00:49:48.520 and the entire history that said, hey, he's coming, is also written by Jews.

00:49:58.160 It's the Old Testament.

00:49:59.920 And by the way, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, they were Jews too.

00:50:05.280 So, it's hard to rinse the Jew out of the Judeo-Christian world,

00:50:10.780 but somehow or another, they did it.

00:50:12.700 60%.

00:50:13.860 Okay.

00:50:14.660 They'd gotten rid of including many churches already had gone for it

00:50:20.400 and gotten rid of the Old Testament.

00:50:23.060 That is something that Hitler's people were really pushing for,

00:50:26.060 get rid of the Old Testament.

00:50:27.060 Well, you don't have nothing left if you don't have the Old Testament

00:50:30.160 with the New Testament.

00:50:32.520 So, the world had gone insane.

00:50:36.420 The Christian world had gone insane.

00:50:38.960 Within six months, many, if not most, of the churches

00:50:43.840 had replaced the picture of Christ on the altar

00:50:48.020 with a picture of Adolf Hitler.

00:50:50.560 So, he changed the fabric of Christianity entirely,

00:50:56.100 and he was going after any pastor, priest, anybody

00:51:00.700 who was preaching something different.

00:51:04.500 Okay.

00:51:10.100 There were a couple of pastors.

00:51:11.960 One played along with it at first, Pastor Niemoller.

00:51:14.840 And he's like, the first they came for this,

00:51:17.720 and I didn't say anything, and then they came for this.

00:51:22.880 He didn't say anything at first.

00:51:25.220 Then he got it, and he's like, oh, I shouldn't do it.

00:51:28.340 But he was praised, in the end, for his unwavering faith.

00:51:32.460 He actually stood.

00:51:33.840 And he actually, he was one of the guys who preached

00:51:41.280 that the Nazis were not to blame alone.

00:51:43.880 They played their role.

00:51:45.380 But, may I quote, would the Nazis have been able to do

00:51:48.260 what they had done if church members had been

00:51:50.420 truly faithful Christians?

00:51:52.000 The answer is no.

00:51:55.420 Truly faithful.

00:51:57.680 Now, Tucker said yesterday that he doesn't think

00:52:00.720 that Bonhoeffer was, I don't remember the exact lines,

00:52:03.840 they'll probably get it wrong.

00:52:04.500 Do we have it?

00:52:05.140 Okay, go ahead and play it.

00:52:06.660 Because once you start calling people Nazis,

00:52:08.100 we really have no choice but to start shooting them.

00:52:11.340 To be Dietrich Bonhoeffer and sort of reach the end

00:52:14.180 of reason or even Christianity.

00:52:15.980 Bonhoeffer decided Christianity is not even,

00:52:18.760 he was a Lutheran pastor.

00:52:20.500 Christianity is not enough.

00:52:21.320 We have to kill the guy.

00:52:23.280 I'm not judging Bonhoeffer,

00:52:24.420 who was a great man in some ways,

00:52:25.740 but that's inevitable once we decide

00:52:29.360 that people are Nazis.

00:52:31.440 Okay, so his point here he's making about,

00:52:33.580 you know, we got to stop calling people Nazis

00:52:35.280 and he's absolutely right on it.

00:52:36.440 You got to stop talking about people,

00:52:38.040 calling people Nazis or shooting begins.

00:52:40.240 Exactly right.

00:52:41.740 Unless they are actual Nazis.

00:52:44.180 You know what I mean?

00:52:45.380 There's, I mean, there's a difference between saying,

00:52:47.760 hey, we should not call people Nazis

00:52:49.420 who are not Nazis

00:52:50.380 and Dietrich Bonhoeffer shouldn't have called

00:52:53.240 Hitler a Nazi.

00:52:54.580 He was the, I mean, he's like,

00:52:56.820 he's the idyllic Nazi.

00:52:58.400 He's the king of all Nazis.

00:53:00.280 He's a Nazi.

00:53:02.500 So when it is a Nazi,

00:53:04.420 I think you can call people Nazis.

00:53:06.380 But yeah, that does require you then

00:53:08.160 to make a choice.

00:53:08.960 And that's where Bonhoeffer found himself.

00:53:12.040 This guy was an amazing man.

00:53:13.880 He was a pacifist.

00:53:14.840 He did not believe in war.

00:53:16.280 He did not believe in killing.

00:53:18.920 And that's how he skated for a long time

00:53:21.220 because he was saying,

00:53:22.360 quiet, quiet, quiet.

00:53:23.400 Nope, nope, nope.

00:53:24.560 Do not involve yourself in this.

00:53:26.700 God does not want us to kill each other.

00:53:28.160 He was a huge pacifist.

00:53:31.060 His story goes back and forth.

00:53:33.320 You've got to read the Bonhoeffer book

00:53:34.540 if you haven't read it by Eric Metaxas.

00:53:36.180 But he goes back and forth.

00:53:37.420 He comes to the United States.

00:53:39.460 He sees faith in action,

00:53:41.820 actually in Harlem,

00:53:43.080 and kind of has this renewed

00:53:45.480 kind of faith experience.

00:53:49.220 He goes back to Germany.

00:53:51.180 He's there for a while.

00:53:52.340 He knows now that Hitler is,

00:53:54.180 because he's helping Jews escape.

00:53:55.540 And he knows Hitler is on him.

00:53:59.540 And he's closing in on him.

00:54:01.900 He's going to get him.

00:54:02.700 He leaves.

00:54:03.840 He comes to the United States.

00:54:05.400 He's here,

00:54:06.380 and he starts feeling guilty.

00:54:08.460 He's like,

00:54:08.640 I can't leave my own country.

00:54:10.560 I mean,

00:54:10.780 I got to stand.

00:54:12.320 I can't leave and hide.

00:54:14.340 I've got to stand.

00:54:15.880 So he goes back to Germany,

00:54:17.500 I think on the last boat

00:54:18.700 that is going into Germany.

00:54:20.340 And he gets to Germany,

00:54:23.540 and he starts plotting Valkyrie.

00:54:28.520 He's part of Project Valkyrie.

00:54:31.800 Valkyrie is the Tom Cruise movie you've seen,

00:54:36.620 von Stauffenberg,

00:54:37.880 a huge German hero,

00:54:40.180 who was not a Nazi,

00:54:43.040 but he was a German soldier

00:54:44.360 who decided,

00:54:45.420 well,

00:54:45.480 this has got to stop.

00:54:46.420 And they planned with a lot of people

00:54:47.920 who said,

00:54:48.360 we got to stop Hitler

00:54:49.560 because look what he's doing.

00:54:50.960 He's destroying everything,

00:54:52.280 and he's killing millions,

00:54:54.560 and it's got to stop.

00:54:56.320 And Bonhoeffer,

00:54:57.240 when he got back,

00:54:58.740 he was wrestling with his pacifism

00:55:01.960 because he was a pacifist,

00:55:03.900 a strong one,

00:55:04.740 and he really believed

00:55:06.160 that God said,

00:55:07.600 no,

00:55:08.220 no fighting,

00:55:09.140 no war,

00:55:09.560 nothing.

00:55:10.020 You're not allowed to kill.

00:55:12.840 But the evil that he saw

00:55:14.720 was so overwhelming

00:55:16.160 that he started

00:55:17.820 questioning

00:55:19.700 everything he believed.

00:55:22.060 And in his class,

00:55:24.340 because he was teaching

00:55:25.580 these young pastors coming up,

00:55:27.940 in his class,

00:55:29.040 he started saying things

00:55:30.840 to the class members.

00:55:32.760 So,

00:55:33.680 if a pacifist saw

00:55:36.920 something that was so evil

00:55:39.840 you needed to stop it,

00:55:41.700 would it be okay?

00:55:43.400 And then they would argue.

00:55:44.380 And the class didn't have any idea.

00:55:45.900 He was working it out

00:55:46.740 with the class in his own head.

00:55:48.060 He's working out,

00:55:49.120 how do I work this?

00:55:50.320 How can I,

00:55:51.200 am I a Christian if I do this?

00:55:53.880 He got to the point

00:55:54.840 to where he was even saying,

00:55:55.920 so if you knew of a pacifist

00:55:57.920 that you really respected,

00:55:59.020 and they did get involved in that,

00:56:01.060 would you still be their friend?

00:56:03.780 Would you still respect them?

00:56:04.920 Are they still Christians?

00:56:06.280 Okay.

00:56:06.860 He's looking to work this out,

00:56:08.560 and he struggled with it.

00:56:10.800 Hitler grabs him,

00:56:15.860 puts him in prison.

00:56:18.060 He's in prison for a long time,

00:56:20.360 and the only reason why he survived

00:56:22.500 as long as he did

00:56:23.360 is he came from a very famous family,

00:56:25.520 and so Hitler really didn't feel

00:56:27.400 he had the juice to kill him

00:56:28.420 without causing all kinds

00:56:29.320 of other problems,

00:56:29.980 so he let him skate for a little while,

00:56:32.080 but he was in prison,

00:56:32.800 and he wrote some beautiful stuff.

00:56:34.700 One of the most beautiful homilies

00:56:37.840 on marriage that I've ever read

00:56:40.500 is from him.

00:56:41.380 He was a guy who didn't get married,

00:56:42.860 he was going to get married,

00:56:43.820 but knew what was going to happen to him,

00:56:45.780 so he didn't want to endanger her,

00:56:47.900 so he didn't get married,

00:56:49.540 so he didn't know anything about marriage

00:56:52.200 except what he had read

00:56:54.440 and what he had thought about

00:56:55.240 and what he had read in scriptures,

00:56:56.760 and he writes this beautiful homily

00:56:58.700 because he's supposed to give the sermon

00:57:01.080 at his sister's wedding.

00:57:02.640 The Nazis won't let him out to do that,

00:57:05.780 and so he writes it,

00:57:06.840 and it's read at her wedding,

00:57:09.080 and it is absolutely beautiful

00:57:10.440 and deep, deep, deep.

00:57:14.360 He's in prison for a while.

00:57:17.020 He's now, it's coming up to April 1945.

00:57:21.200 Hitler dies in April 1945,

00:57:23.580 and everything's falling apart,

00:57:25.980 and so the Nazis start kind of cleaning up

00:57:28.940 the death camps,

00:57:30.020 and they start transferring people,

00:57:31.960 and Bonhoeffer is supposed to be let free,

00:57:35.320 and he gets onto this bus,

00:57:37.520 you know, driven by the Nazis,

00:57:39.360 and he's being transferred

00:57:40.480 to where he will be released.

00:57:42.180 Well, on the way,

00:57:44.400 the tire goes out,

00:57:45.520 and they don't have a spare,

00:57:46.840 and so they're sitting on the edge of the road,

00:57:48.580 and they got all these prisoners,

00:57:51.180 and this other bus is coming the other direction,

00:57:55.400 and they're like,

00:57:55.820 hey, where are you going?

00:57:57.160 And they say, well, we're going to this camp.

00:57:59.500 Great.

00:57:59.940 Would you just take these prisoners with you?

00:58:03.600 Here's the paperwork and everything else.

00:58:04.980 Here's the prisoners.

00:58:05.680 You just take them with you.

00:58:06.520 So all the prisoners that were there,

00:58:08.220 including Bonhoeffer,

00:58:09.080 who was supposed to be released,

00:58:10.020 go to this other death camp,

00:58:11.560 and now he's sitting there on this death camp

00:58:15.760 and waiting for death,

00:58:18.280 and not supposed to be,

00:58:20.500 and in that,

00:58:22.900 he is preaching Christ

00:58:25.160 to the guy who did all of the experiments

00:58:28.040 on the Jews,

00:58:30.100 you know, freezing them,

00:58:31.620 bringing them up in high altitude

00:58:33.520 until their heads pop,

00:58:35.020 all the horrible experiments,

00:58:37.480 everything that is now in every hospital

00:58:41.180 in the world,

00:58:43.180 the book about hypothermia and everything else.

00:58:46.060 It's the number one book

00:58:50.340 on what the human body can do

00:58:52.740 and how you fix things.

00:58:54.300 Number one,

00:58:55.640 it's in every hospital.

00:58:56.900 Every doctor has it.

00:58:57.900 That was written by that Nazi.

00:59:00.640 He released it without Hitler's permission

00:59:03.580 because he thought it was such a gift to the world,

00:59:05.440 and he went to prison

00:59:06.680 because Hitler said,

00:59:07.860 we're not trying to save the world.

00:59:08.980 We're saving German soldiers.

00:59:11.100 Puts him in prison.

00:59:12.640 The guy is a vile guy,

00:59:14.540 as you can imagine.

00:59:15.720 He's in with, I think,

00:59:16.600 a French spy,

00:59:17.840 this woman.

00:59:18.540 She was a double agent,

00:59:20.200 and so they're in with this cell

00:59:22.260 with Dietrich Bonhoeffer,

00:59:23.820 and he's preaching to them,

00:59:26.160 and they're just vile

00:59:27.960 with each other in front of him.

00:59:30.660 Keeps his cool.

00:59:31.900 Keeps who he is.

00:59:34.980 Comes up to a couple of weeks

00:59:37.200 before Hitler is going to kill himself,

00:59:39.360 and they come,

00:59:41.520 and they're going to execute

00:59:42.680 everybody in that cell,

00:59:44.480 and so they go out,

00:59:45.720 and the only reason why we know

00:59:48.720 how Dietrich Bonhoeffer died

00:59:50.440 and when he died

00:59:51.500 is because of the way he acted.

00:59:54.100 He went out,

00:59:54.800 they took him out to the woods,

00:59:55.820 and they had built a hanging platform,

00:59:58.320 and one by one,

01:00:00.060 they brought him up,

01:00:01.140 put the noose around their neck,

01:00:03.260 trap door,

01:00:04.240 they died.

01:00:05.300 Cut him down,

01:00:06.280 next one,

01:00:07.000 bring him up,

01:00:07.660 put the noose around their neck,

01:00:08.640 trap door,

01:00:09.340 opens,

01:00:10.080 they die.

01:00:11.680 Bonhoeffer,

01:00:12.220 when he comes up,

01:00:13.480 he comes up to the platform,

01:00:15.060 and the guy who's putting

01:00:16.360 the noose around his neck,

01:00:18.080 he says something like,

01:00:19.600 thank you for your kindness.

01:00:22.020 Okay?

01:00:22.780 And the guy is like,

01:00:24.420 what?

01:00:25.640 Everybody else is freaking out,

01:00:27.360 everybody else is,

01:00:28.320 you know,

01:00:28.880 and he says,

01:00:29.700 thank you for your kindness.

01:00:32.020 He tightens the noose,

01:00:33.680 pulls the trap door,

01:00:34.820 dead.

01:00:36.020 He remembers

01:00:37.160 that one guy,

01:00:39.500 and remembers

01:00:40.220 that was Dietrich Bonhoeffer.

01:00:42.620 I don't know if he knew

01:00:43.780 who Dietrich Bonhoeffer was

01:00:45.080 at the time,

01:00:45.620 but he knew him

01:00:46.560 because of that thank you.

01:00:49.620 He died like a very valiant man.

01:00:53.260 Okay?

01:00:53.780 In a way,

01:00:54.100 I don't know if I could.

01:01:01.060 What is the difference

01:01:02.440 between when you confront evil,

01:01:06.100 when you see evil?

01:01:07.700 I mean,

01:01:08.120 Dietrich Bonhoeffer is the guy

01:01:09.240 who said,

01:01:10.160 silence in the face of evil

01:01:11.520 is evil itself.

01:01:13.480 God will not hold us blameless.

01:01:15.920 Not to act is to act.

01:01:18.660 Okay?

01:01:19.900 That comes from a deep,

01:01:21.720 deep spiritual place.

01:01:27.760 What is the difference

01:01:28.920 between that

01:01:29.860 and Thomas Jefferson

01:01:31.900 saying,

01:01:33.540 rebellion to tyrants

01:01:34.660 is obedience to God?

01:01:37.460 Do you as a Christian

01:01:38.980 have a responsibility

01:01:40.800 to kill Hitler

01:01:44.760 if you had the opportunity

01:01:46.900 with not baby Hitler?

01:01:49.140 Baby Hitler hasn't committed

01:01:50.380 any crime.

01:01:52.300 You're seeing this death machine

01:01:54.640 and you've tried everything

01:01:57.140 you can to stop it.

01:01:58.460 Do you have a responsibility

01:01:59.840 as a Christian

01:02:00.880 to stop the evil?

01:02:02.800 I think you do.

01:02:06.480 I think silence

01:02:07.380 in the face of evil

01:02:08.240 is evil itself.

01:02:10.120 Not to act

01:02:10.780 is to act.

01:02:13.420 You know,

01:02:13.680 for evil to happen

01:02:15.820 it'll happen

01:02:17.340 when good men

01:02:18.300 do nothing.

01:02:19.600 We know that.

01:02:20.280 We have a responsibility

01:02:21.220 to act.

01:02:22.740 But we have a responsibility

01:02:23.840 to do everything

01:02:24.720 Christ-like

01:02:25.400 that we can

01:02:26.260 first.

01:02:27.280 But you get

01:02:28.760 into this place

01:02:29.840 to where,

01:02:30.500 you know,

01:02:31.660 woe unto those

01:02:32.480 who call evil

01:02:33.380 good and good evil.

01:02:35.220 everybody starts

01:02:37.180 to confuse

01:02:37.760 the language.

01:02:39.060 And that's what's

01:02:39.660 happening right now.

01:02:40.540 Everybody's calling

01:02:41.160 everybody a fascist

01:02:42.100 or Hitler.

01:02:42.960 Everybody calls

01:02:43.520 everybody a Nazi.

01:02:45.540 And so there's

01:02:46.100 no meaning

01:02:46.700 on words.

01:02:48.240 We can't forget

01:02:49.060 what words

01:02:49.800 actually mean

01:02:51.360 or we will wind up

01:02:52.980 calling good evil

01:02:54.060 and evil good.

01:02:55.420 That's what happened

01:02:56.520 to so many Christians.

01:02:57.840 They did nothing.

01:02:59.060 They just went

01:02:59.840 along with it.

01:03:00.900 They just played along

01:03:02.140 and then it became

01:03:03.240 them.

01:03:03.720 Dietrich Bonhoeffer

01:03:05.780 was a great,

01:03:07.500 great man.

01:03:09.500 A Christian giant

01:03:11.160 and a man

01:03:12.320 who fought

01:03:12.980 real evil

01:03:14.060 and wrestled

01:03:15.600 with it.

01:03:17.020 We squabble

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01:03:24.480 the facts

01:03:25.260 as they are

01:03:26.060 so we don't lose

01:03:27.020 our way

01:03:27.560 as everything

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01:04:56.960 It's a big

01:05:08.640 day for you.

01:05:09.440 I know.

01:05:10.200 It's my Bonhoeffer

01:05:11.040 moment.

01:05:11.560 I feel like,

01:05:12.240 you know,

01:05:12.700 you don't want to

01:05:13.740 say Dietrich Bonhoeffer

01:05:14.800 around Glenn because

01:05:15.800 that means you're

01:05:16.320 going to hear hours

01:05:18.580 and hours.

01:05:18.980 I could go.

01:05:21.000 It's like saying

01:05:21.840 Woodrow Wilson.

01:05:23.400 Yes.

01:05:23.760 You say Woodrow

01:05:24.520 Wilson?

01:05:25.140 Yeah.

01:05:25.320 Your night is

01:05:26.980 finished with me.

01:05:28.000 Yeah.

01:05:28.700 You're like,

01:05:29.160 God, why did you

01:05:29.880 say Woodrow Wilson?

01:05:30.680 Did you not know?

01:05:31.760 Stop saying things

01:05:32.880 to Glenn like that.

01:05:33.640 Like Edward Bernays.

01:05:35.300 Oh, there's a

01:05:36.620 red.

01:05:37.340 Yeah.

01:05:37.840 Yeah.

01:05:38.160 You want to go

01:05:38.600 down that road?

01:05:38.940 I didn't mean to

01:05:39.780 bring it up.

01:05:40.200 You said it.

01:05:42.240 It's true.

01:05:42.880 It's funny, though,

01:05:43.480 because you have,

01:05:45.040 I mean, you're the

01:05:45.600 guy I first heard

01:05:48.040 about Bonhoeffer

01:05:49.220 from.

01:05:49.660 I don't think I even

01:05:50.360 knew the story at

01:05:51.200 all.

01:05:51.620 I mean, I know Eric

01:05:52.480 wrote the book and

01:05:53.180 you talked to him

01:05:53.980 quite a bit about it

01:05:54.900 at the time.

01:05:55.320 Eric was writing

01:05:55.940 the book.

01:05:56.860 I didn't know about

01:05:58.000 Dietrich Bonhoeffer

01:05:58.740 and he sent over to

01:06:00.340 my office this giant

01:06:01.800 picture of Dietrich

01:06:03.640 Bonhoeffer.

01:06:04.340 He made it into a

01:06:05.340 poster just for me.

01:06:06.540 I think you've seen

01:06:07.100 it.

01:06:07.200 It's the cover of

01:06:07.720 the book.

01:06:08.940 He made it into a

01:06:09.960 giant poster, except

01:06:11.000 instead of the name

01:06:12.120 of the book, it just

01:06:12.860 said, silence in the

01:06:14.260 face of evil is evil

01:06:15.300 itself.

01:06:16.220 Not to act is to

01:06:17.520 act.

01:06:18.320 Call me.

01:06:19.540 Eric Metaxas.

01:06:21.060 And I got this and I

01:06:22.180 said, who is this?

01:06:22.900 And he told me the

01:06:23.620 story of, and he

01:06:24.480 said, I'm writing a

01:06:25.440 biography on him right

01:06:26.460 now.

01:06:27.420 I couldn't wait for the

01:06:28.480 book.

01:06:28.720 I did all kinds of

01:06:29.460 research, talked to him.

01:06:30.720 I started talking about

01:06:31.680 him.

01:06:31.840 And then when the book

01:06:32.400 came out, it became a

01:06:33.280 bestseller because, yes,

01:06:35.940 that's right.

01:06:36.780 I had another Dietrich

01:06:38.720 Bonhoeffer moment.

01:06:40.520 Yeah.

01:06:41.020 And America was ready to

01:06:42.200 hear about.

01:06:42.740 I take all the credit

01:06:43.740 for that, Eric.

01:06:44.740 Take all the credit.

01:06:46.620 All right.

01:06:46.960 Back in just a minute.

01:06:51.860 This is Glenn Beck.

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01:08:18.240 It's Friday.

01:08:39.240 Welcome to the

01:08:39.900 Glenn Beck Program.

01:08:40.980 Glenn, I think I could have

01:08:42.120 used a few more personal

01:08:44.380 attacks in your last

01:08:46.140 message.

01:08:46.780 Really?

01:08:46.980 That's the way we're

01:08:47.520 supposed to do it on the

01:08:48.120 right now?

01:08:48.520 I think so.

01:08:49.160 I think you're supposed

01:08:49.800 to call everybody that

01:08:51.720 you disagree with names

01:08:52.980 and kind of send them

01:08:56.700 to hell.

01:08:58.020 Right.

01:08:58.440 Like, you know, just

01:08:59.180 cast them off into the

01:09:00.320 fires of hell.

01:09:01.220 Right.

01:09:01.880 I think that's the way

01:09:02.800 you're supposed to do it.

01:09:03.640 I think that's the way

01:09:04.400 it is.

01:09:04.660 Aren't you tired of that?

01:09:05.700 I am.

01:09:06.300 And there's a lot of

01:09:07.500 back and forth on the

01:09:08.100 right right now.

01:09:08.760 Like, I always found,

01:09:11.040 and this is something

01:09:11.520 we've talked about going

01:09:12.220 back a million years

01:09:13.820 doing this show,

01:09:15.200 in that in some ways

01:09:17.060 the most interesting

01:09:18.200 stuff I think

01:09:18.920 conservative media

01:09:19.700 can do is to go

01:09:22.180 back and forth

01:09:23.200 on issues

01:09:25.100 where conservatives

01:09:26.800 disagree a little bit.

01:09:28.440 And I think that's a

01:09:29.160 really healthy thing

01:09:29.900 for a movement

01:09:30.480 to be involved in.

01:09:32.060 And I also think

01:09:33.700 it's sometimes

01:09:34.540 the most interesting

01:09:35.520 stuff because

01:09:36.320 it's really easy

01:09:37.880 for us to do shows

01:09:38.760 every day telling you

01:09:39.660 that Nancy Pelosi sucks.

01:09:41.040 She does.

01:09:41.820 Yeah.

01:09:41.940 It's really easy

01:09:43.080 for me to come on the air

01:09:43.920 and I love doing this

01:09:45.060 to come on the air

01:09:46.000 and make fun of

01:09:46.780 Jasmine Crockett

01:09:47.740 for three hours.

01:09:48.700 I say she should be

01:09:50.020 the Democratic nominee.

01:09:51.180 100%.

01:09:51.780 I'm not making fun of her.

01:09:53.420 I love her.

01:09:54.980 I should say.

01:09:56.220 I want her to run

01:09:57.480 for office

01:09:58.220 everywhere

01:09:58.960 all the time.

01:10:00.280 I think she should be

01:10:01.080 the candidate

01:10:01.540 for every office.

01:10:03.080 Absolutely.

01:10:04.260 And all that stuff

01:10:05.640 I think is really important

01:10:06.820 because if you never do it,

01:10:08.600 which it seems like

01:10:09.320 that seems to be

01:10:10.020 the current path

01:10:11.300 of the right

01:10:11.980 for some reason.

01:10:12.680 You never criticize

01:10:13.780 anyone on the left anymore.

01:10:14.980 All we do is

01:10:15.440 criticize each other.

01:10:16.540 But like if you never

01:10:17.400 do that stuff,

01:10:18.520 people will forget it.

01:10:20.900 Like you have to be able

01:10:21.860 to talk about

01:10:22.600 the opposite side.

01:10:23.980 But sometimes

01:10:24.420 the most intricate,

01:10:25.600 interesting stuff,

01:10:26.400 the nuanced stuff

01:10:27.240 is going to be about

01:10:28.540 dissecting our own side

01:10:30.940 and saying,

01:10:31.500 hey, like we're going

01:10:32.400 down this road.

01:10:32.960 I think that might be wrong.

01:10:34.060 And what about this road?

01:10:35.120 That might be wrong.

01:10:36.180 And let's say,

01:10:37.000 you know,

01:10:37.320 this is way too far

01:10:38.500 or whatever that is.

01:10:39.420 That's been something

01:10:40.080 that's happened

01:10:40.620 in every movement forever

01:10:42.060 and I think is normal

01:10:43.800 and natural

01:10:44.400 and should occur.

01:10:45.720 How it should occur

01:10:46.880 is something we should

01:10:47.940 spend more time on.

01:10:48.760 I think what you were

01:10:49.180 talking about there,

01:10:49.960 like Tucker mentioned

01:10:51.900 Dietrich Bonhoeffer.

01:10:52.840 It wasn't his,

01:10:53.400 I don't think his main point

01:10:54.500 of his show.

01:10:55.200 No, it wasn't.

01:10:55.560 But it was something

01:10:56.220 that was able to set you off

01:10:57.900 on something

01:10:58.520 that you care about

01:10:59.720 and that you and Tucker

01:11:01.240 could easily talk about.

01:11:02.560 That I think is important.

01:11:03.680 And I would,

01:11:04.460 you know,

01:11:04.840 if Tucker were sitting here,

01:11:05.720 I would say,

01:11:06.460 you know what?

01:11:07.100 Listen to it.

01:11:07.620 I think you got this wrong.

01:11:08.540 Here's the story

01:11:10.100 that maybe you don't know.

01:11:12.180 And that's the kind

01:11:13.220 of conversations

01:11:13.880 that we have to have.

01:11:15.600 That doesn't mean

01:11:16.420 that you excuse people,

01:11:19.100 you know,

01:11:19.500 if they're like,

01:11:20.220 like,

01:11:20.520 I hate this thing.

01:11:21.980 Oh,

01:11:22.180 the right's tearing itself apart.

01:11:23.600 It's shooting its own,

01:11:25.740 you know,

01:11:26.220 with people who are saying

01:11:28.100 that,

01:11:28.400 you know,

01:11:28.960 Hitler was neat.

01:11:30.640 No,

01:11:30.880 excuse me.

01:11:31.240 They were never in my tent.

01:11:32.980 And if I was ever in that tent,

01:11:35.160 I want out of that tent.

01:11:36.920 That's,

01:11:37.440 that's,

01:11:38.000 there's no,

01:11:38.560 that's not my side.

01:11:40.240 Or how about even more,

01:11:41.160 maybe even more clear

01:11:42.260 to the world.

01:11:43.320 Stalin was great.

01:11:44.500 Yeah,

01:11:44.660 Stalin was great.

01:11:45.640 The communist?

01:11:46.520 Right.

01:11:46.700 Like,

01:11:46.800 I'm supposed to have something

01:11:48.160 in association

01:11:48.840 with this person

01:11:49.460 who likes Stalin?

01:11:50.720 Like,

01:11:50.840 you know,

01:11:51.580 look,

01:11:51.880 there are core,

01:11:53.120 there is a struggle

01:11:54.060 in every movement

01:11:54.760 to say,

01:11:55.200 hey,

01:11:55.380 this is part of our group

01:11:56.720 and this is not part

01:11:57.720 of our group.

01:11:59.120 And there are lines

01:12:00.520 to that,

01:12:00.940 I think,

01:12:01.420 or you don't,

01:12:02.060 or the group means nothing,

01:12:03.480 right?

01:12:03.660 Here's one that I,

01:12:04.480 here's one again

01:12:05.180 that I disagreed with Tucker

01:12:06.760 on in that same podcast.

01:12:08.080 He was talking about

01:12:09.160 how we sided

01:12:10.080 with Joseph Stalin

01:12:11.060 to win,

01:12:12.260 how you've become

01:12:13.240 everything you despise

01:12:14.440 to beat Hitler.

01:12:16.100 Yeah.

01:12:17.120 Yeah,

01:12:17.540 we did.

01:12:18.580 And it's easy

01:12:19.840 to say that now,

01:12:22.200 knowing in hindsight

01:12:23.460 exactly how everything

01:12:24.840 played out,

01:12:25.640 it led to the Cold War,

01:12:26.740 et cetera,

01:12:27.020 et cetera.

01:12:27.520 Sure.

01:12:27.840 And I don't ever want

01:12:29.120 to be in,

01:12:29.580 I don't believe in

01:12:30.440 the enemy of my enemy

01:12:31.340 as my friend.

01:12:32.180 I think that causes

01:12:32.900 all kinds of problems

01:12:34.600 because,

01:12:37.040 you know,

01:12:37.340 your enemy will eventually,

01:12:39.020 once you've gotten rid

01:12:40.000 of the other enemy,

01:12:41.200 that enemy now looks

01:12:42.120 at you and goes,

01:12:42.640 I got you.

01:12:43.580 I'm going to,

01:12:44.260 I'm going to kill you now.

01:12:45.400 And so it becomes

01:12:46.360 exactly what it was.

01:12:47.600 But that,

01:12:48.320 it's not,

01:12:48.800 that's not an easy,

01:12:50.780 that's not an easy thing

01:12:51.700 to talk about.

01:12:52.720 These things need to,

01:12:55.380 you can't just go in

01:12:56.800 and say,

01:12:57.220 you know what,

01:12:57.920 we're bad because

01:12:58.980 we sided with,

01:13:00.000 and I'm not saying

01:13:00.520 he did this,

01:13:01.320 but we're bad

01:13:02.360 because we sided

01:13:03.320 in the end,

01:13:04.020 you know,

01:13:04.380 with Stalin

01:13:05.400 and look at what that,

01:13:06.560 yeah,

01:13:06.880 okay,

01:13:07.260 but let's have a really,

01:13:09.640 these are nuanced,

01:13:11.400 long conversations

01:13:12.940 that are deeply philosophical.

01:13:15.560 It's not just,

01:13:17.600 you know what,

01:13:18.600 you're a Nazi.

01:13:19.660 It's not that.

01:13:20.840 It's not that.

01:13:21.640 And by the way,

01:13:22.040 you have to have those.

01:13:23.280 What's fascinating about it

01:13:24.300 is all of these things,

01:13:25.900 all these conversations

01:13:26.780 occurred at the time as well.

01:13:29.280 I mean,

01:13:29.480 people in the US government

01:13:30.940 were very well aware

01:13:32.240 that there were risks

01:13:33.220 about siding with Stalin.

01:13:35.640 They believed the risks

01:13:36.640 outweighed the negatives.

01:13:38.560 At the time,

01:13:39.280 the negatives were

01:13:39.980 the literal Nazis.

01:13:41.020 So it was a really

01:13:42.100 powerful argument.

01:13:43.760 You know,

01:13:44.100 it was a,

01:13:45.060 it was something

01:13:45.440 that was really well considered

01:13:46.780 and it's important

01:13:47.520 to keep looking at this

01:13:48.380 and examining it

01:13:49.220 and having these conversations.

01:13:51.560 I think,

01:13:53.060 like,

01:13:53.300 I just feel like

01:13:54.080 the way the right

01:13:56.140 is having those conversations,

01:13:57.660 particularly online,

01:13:58.760 it just is not helpful.

01:13:59.980 I don't think that,

01:14:00.840 not only is it not

01:14:02.460 get us across

01:14:04.200 any beneficial line

01:14:06.260 for the right,

01:14:07.960 it's also giving the left

01:14:09.240 everything they want.

01:14:10.200 Everything they want.

01:14:11.020 I hate that.

01:14:11.780 I hate giving the left

01:14:12.680 everything they want.

01:14:13.660 So,

01:14:14.180 I would just rather be

01:14:14.980 the people who have dialogue

01:14:16.200 and who,

01:14:17.400 who argue things out rationally

01:14:19.400 and reasonably

01:14:20.200 and say,

01:14:21.780 you know what,

01:14:22.200 that's a good point.

01:14:23.200 I don't think I agree with that,

01:14:24.920 but okay,

01:14:25.460 I see,

01:14:26.060 you know,

01:14:26.420 can I ask you some questions

01:14:27.380 on how you got there

01:14:28.280 and how come that matters here

01:14:30.520 but not over here to you

01:14:32.000 or maybe it does

01:14:32.740 and you just didn't say it.

01:14:34.040 That's the kind of stuff

01:14:35.280 that we should be talking about

01:14:36.740 and when people are

01:14:38.160 clearly wrong,

01:14:40.200 you know,

01:14:41.540 Stalin was not a good guy.

01:14:44.100 No?

01:14:44.820 Really?

01:14:45.720 Mao was not a good guy.

01:14:47.440 Hitler was not a good guy.

01:14:49.080 These aren't borderline issues.

01:14:50.360 They're not borderline.

01:14:51.340 And like,

01:14:51.720 you know,

01:14:52.000 look,

01:14:52.760 at times,

01:14:54.840 movements have struggles

01:14:56.260 with where their lines are

01:14:58.100 and to me-

01:14:59.480 That's healthy.

01:15:00.240 It is healthy.

01:15:01.820 There's,

01:15:02.100 to me,

01:15:02.380 there's no question

01:15:03.540 that someone

01:15:04.560 who loves,

01:15:06.560 who's a big fan

01:15:07.360 of Joseph Stalin

01:15:08.540 is not in my group.

01:15:09.860 That being said,

01:15:10.680 if it is in that group,

01:15:12.740 then I have to go.

01:15:13.580 I am not in that group anymore

01:15:14.520 and that's okay too.

01:15:15.700 Like,

01:15:15.840 I don't need groups.

01:15:17.560 I'm fine.

01:15:18.440 I'm not like

01:15:19.080 that obsessed with it.

01:15:20.180 I'm just going to believe

01:15:21.020 what I believe is right

01:15:22.040 and I,

01:15:23.180 you know,

01:15:23.260 I'm going to do my best

01:15:24.280 to be,

01:15:25.920 you know,

01:15:26.380 when I talk to someone

01:15:27.240 and I have,

01:15:27.860 I have conversations with people.

01:15:29.300 I think we all do

01:15:30.240 where they,

01:15:32.200 you know,

01:15:32.340 I have a,

01:15:32.820 you know,

01:15:33.200 a friend of a friend

01:15:34.540 who has,

01:15:35.220 you know,

01:15:35.740 beliefs that are,

01:15:36.780 claims to be on the right

01:15:38.240 as a conservative

01:15:38.980 and I would say

01:15:40.100 probably agree with

01:15:41.160 on a lot of things

01:15:42.020 but has some beliefs

01:15:43.440 that strain off

01:15:44.900 into the,

01:15:45.660 into what I would call

01:15:46.460 like completely nuts territory

01:15:48.240 and,

01:15:49.100 you know,

01:15:49.280 you talk to that person

01:15:50.240 about it,

01:15:50.520 you can be a jerk,

01:15:51.720 you can say you're a moron,

01:15:53.280 you can call them all names.

01:15:54.840 That's not going to help you.

01:15:55.280 There's no,

01:15:56.080 A,

01:15:56.320 I'm going to not

01:15:57.140 have any relationship

01:15:58.640 with that person anymore

01:15:59.680 and B,

01:16:01.580 it's not going to convince them,

01:16:02.960 it's going to have them dig in.

01:16:04.120 I feel like a lot of the stuff

01:16:04.980 we're seeing on the back and forth now

01:16:06.380 is people taking

01:16:08.500 these sort of stances,

01:16:10.040 stances publicly for them,

01:16:13.140 right?

01:16:13.400 It's not about trying

01:16:14.620 to persuade other people

01:16:16.300 or try to bring people

01:16:17.940 who you've always agreed with

01:16:19.880 maybe back into

01:16:20.840 the fold a little bit more,

01:16:22.760 people you maybe

01:16:23.480 don't think you've lost.

01:16:24.340 It's more about like,

01:16:25.020 hey,

01:16:25.160 I'm going to make this

01:16:25.860 really proud stand

01:16:26.600 because I'm a good person.

01:16:27.720 I'm going to,

01:16:28.340 I'm going to be,

01:16:29.280 this is my Prius.

01:16:30.460 I'm going to show everyone

01:16:31.620 that I'm better.

01:16:32.580 I'm morally better

01:16:34.460 than everybody else.

01:16:35.840 And look,

01:16:36.840 there are times for that.

01:16:38.840 I think quite clearly

01:16:40.040 there are times for that

01:16:41.120 when you need to just stand up

01:16:42.080 and say,

01:16:42.360 look,

01:16:43.200 there are lines.

01:16:43.880 This is absolutely

01:16:44.880 over the line to me.

01:16:46.720 But like,

01:16:47.740 I don't know.

01:16:49.000 That should be,

01:16:49.880 it's like impeachment.

01:16:50.980 It's like,

01:16:51.260 it should be something

01:16:51.880 that re,

01:16:52.540 it shouldn't just be like,

01:16:53.300 I disagree with this person,

01:16:54.340 this president on something.

01:16:55.480 Let's impeach him.

01:16:56.040 It should be something

01:16:56.720 pretty big.

01:16:57.980 And sometimes it is.

01:16:59.540 And this might be

01:17:00.340 the case to you

01:17:01.520 and that's fine.

01:17:02.660 But like,

01:17:03.960 the way you do it,

01:17:05.960 what your goal actually is,

01:17:07.880 these things I think

01:17:09.280 are important for people

01:17:10.320 to think about right now.

01:17:11.280 The way you talked about

01:17:12.060 this issue with Bonhoeffer,

01:17:14.060 I thought was a good example

01:17:15.040 of like,

01:17:16.220 you know,

01:17:16.440 you're not saying like,

01:17:17.820 oh,

01:17:17.980 well actually I don't,

01:17:19.080 I'm not a big Bonhoeffer fan.

01:17:20.300 You're not changing your view.

01:17:21.160 You love Bonhoeffer.

01:17:22.480 He's a hero to you,

01:17:23.460 but you don't have to like,

01:17:25.160 you can.

01:17:26.060 I don't have to take

01:17:27.200 Tucker Carlson down

01:17:28.740 to explain

01:17:30.820 who Dietrich Bonhoeffer

01:17:32.180 really was.

01:17:32.720 No,

01:17:32.920 you just say,

01:17:33.800 hey,

01:17:34.000 like we have a,

01:17:34.620 we have a slight disagreement

01:17:35.760 on part of this

01:17:36.540 and let's talk that stuff out.

01:17:38.340 I think that's generally

01:17:39.460 a good thing.

01:17:41.240 And it's the only way

01:17:42.240 a country moves forward.

01:17:44.260 Yeah.

01:17:44.620 And the movement works for,

01:17:46.180 moves forward as well.

01:17:47.900 There,

01:17:48.120 those discussions need to occur.

01:17:49.980 How they occur

01:17:50.820 is crucial

01:17:52.300 when you talk about

01:17:53.580 keeping people together.

01:17:54.940 And I don't know,

01:17:55.480 like,

01:17:57.220 we don't,

01:17:57.860 this was not,

01:17:58.740 this is not something

01:17:59.380 that was given to us as,

01:18:01.380 in the conservative movement

01:18:02.620 is not something

01:18:03.760 that is the natural state of things.

01:18:06.340 You know,

01:18:06.580 for a long time

01:18:07.380 there wasn't one

01:18:08.180 that had any success.

01:18:09.860 And,

01:18:10.420 and when,

01:18:11.060 whatever versions

01:18:12.220 of conservatism

01:18:13.440 existed,

01:18:15.680 it was constantly

01:18:16.680 stamped down.

01:18:17.680 It became

01:18:18.380 a big thing

01:18:19.580 for a long time

01:18:20.480 and it's not necessarily

01:18:21.560 going to last forever.

01:18:23.420 Let me give you something.

01:18:24.500 Let me give you

01:18:24.860 an example of something.

01:18:26.620 So,

01:18:27.500 there's the news,

01:18:29.220 Whitney Webb

01:18:30.120 is viral today.

01:18:31.340 We talked about it last hour.

01:18:32.780 And she's saying that

01:18:34.300 she feels

01:18:35.320 it can be said now

01:18:36.320 with credibility

01:18:37.360 that

01:18:38.440 Epstein

01:18:40.240 was a

01:18:41.700 double agent

01:18:42.480 for the Israelis

01:18:43.700 and the Americans.

01:18:45.340 I don't find that

01:18:46.320 controversial.

01:18:46.780 I find that

01:18:47.460 pretty logical

01:18:48.380 that that's

01:18:49.180 Well,

01:18:49.440 it's certainly

01:18:50.020 controversial

01:18:50.600 because it's not

01:18:51.280 known or confirmed.

01:18:53.260 But I'm not saying

01:18:53.940 that it doesn't

01:18:55.020 The idea of that

01:18:56.820 the suggestion

01:18:58.540 of that

01:18:59.500 is not out of the

01:19:00.600 it seems like

01:19:01.300 a logical conclusion

01:19:02.480 that logical people

01:19:03.520 could come to

01:19:04.220 but now let's

01:19:05.640 back it up with facts.

01:19:06.640 Now,

01:19:06.820 I'm not talking about Whitney

01:19:07.640 because she's

01:19:08.380 usually backed up

01:19:09.200 by more facts

01:19:10.180 than anybody else comes.

01:19:11.560 She comes with

01:19:12.180 a machine gun

01:19:12.940 at a knife fight.

01:19:13.980 but

01:19:15.060 but

01:19:16.260 here's

01:19:17.060 here's where

01:19:17.560 that story

01:19:18.140 came from.

01:19:19.000 This is where

01:19:19.340 it was

01:19:19.620 one of the places

01:19:20.540 that originally

01:19:21.040 dropped.

01:19:21.540 It came from

01:19:23.080 drop news

01:19:24.800 drop site news.

01:19:26.360 Okay.

01:19:27.440 Drop site

01:19:28.080 drop night

01:19:28.680 drop site news.

01:19:29.600 I'm not familiar

01:19:30.220 with it.

01:19:30.800 It's an anti

01:19:31.860 Israel

01:19:32.420 news startup.

01:19:34.160 Okay.

01:19:34.780 Reader supported

01:19:35.820 completely independent

01:19:37.180 journalism.

01:19:37.680 That's what they say.

01:19:38.660 However,

01:19:39.220 there's another

01:19:40.040 story

01:19:40.640 that is out

01:19:41.460 today

01:19:41.760 that shows

01:19:42.540 now that

01:19:43.200 George Soros

01:19:44.340 gave a quarter

01:19:45.740 of a million

01:19:46.200 dollars to

01:19:46.940 drop site news

01:19:47.840 to establish

01:19:48.480 it to get

01:19:48.940 it going.

01:19:49.620 Now,

01:19:50.180 that doesn't

01:19:50.740 mean that

01:19:51.280 the story

01:19:51.880 that they

01:19:52.260 printed

01:19:52.600 is wrong.

01:19:55.120 I don't

01:19:55.960 know about

01:19:56.780 that story.

01:19:57.760 You know

01:19:57.920 what I mean?

01:19:58.280 I don't

01:19:58.800 know.

01:19:59.820 It doesn't

01:20:00.360 this is what

01:20:01.780 we have to

01:20:02.340 stop.

01:20:03.100 We have

01:20:03.900 to be

01:20:04.320 very careful

01:20:05.160 that

01:20:05.900 one thing

01:20:07.360 being true

01:20:08.140 does not

01:20:08.740 mean that

01:20:09.500 you know,

01:20:10.360 if a is

01:20:10.940 true,

01:20:11.360 it doesn't

01:20:11.860 mean that

01:20:12.300 B,

01:20:13.860 C,

01:20:14.240 D,

01:20:14.660 and E,

01:20:15.200 and F

01:20:15.560 are also

01:20:16.200 true.

01:20:17.500 They are

01:20:18.100 not necessarily

01:20:19.080 related.

01:20:19.900 They can all

01:20:20.400 kind of fit

01:20:20.880 into the

01:20:21.240 same story,

01:20:22.000 but that

01:20:22.320 doesn't

01:20:22.800 mean that

01:20:24.340 they each

01:20:25.840 have to

01:20:26.260 stay and

01:20:27.220 be able to

01:20:27.760 stand on

01:20:28.680 their own

01:20:29.260 two legs.

01:20:30.620 You know

01:20:30.780 what I mean?

01:20:31.560 And what

01:20:32.200 we're doing

01:20:32.680 is we're

01:20:33.120 taking one

01:20:33.940 thing and

01:20:35.300 another thing

01:20:36.200 and then

01:20:36.920 we're saying

01:20:37.300 everything in

01:20:38.280 between here

01:20:39.180 is exactly

01:20:40.060 right.

01:20:40.940 It was

01:20:42.160 wrong for

01:20:43.120 us to

01:20:43.720 get in

01:20:44.340 bed with

01:20:44.840 Stalin.

01:20:47.080 So

01:20:47.680 therefore,

01:20:48.720 we're the

01:20:49.760 evil ones.

01:20:51.000 No,

01:20:51.580 that's not

01:20:52.180 necessarily the

01:20:52.980 conclusion.

01:20:54.540 You're

01:20:55.140 missing all

01:20:55.900 of the

01:20:56.180 nuance in

01:20:56.960 there.

01:20:57.700 And that

01:20:58.880 is the

01:20:59.180 thing that

01:20:59.440 we have

01:20:59.680 to be

01:20:59.880 really

01:21:00.320 careful

01:21:00.840 of.

01:21:01.300 That's

01:21:01.520 the thing

01:21:01.880 that will

01:21:02.200 turn all

01:21:04.020 of us

01:21:04.480 into

01:21:04.860 really

01:21:05.440 people

01:21:07.580 unable

01:21:09.140 to save

01:21:10.020 our

01:21:10.160 nation.

01:21:10.940 We have

01:21:11.880 to be

01:21:12.400 logical,

01:21:14.040 calm,

01:21:15.180 stop trying

01:21:16.040 to chase

01:21:16.480 everybody

01:21:16.840 out,

01:21:17.340 just try

01:21:17.880 to understand

01:21:18.520 them,

01:21:19.100 call them

01:21:19.720 when you

01:21:20.200 know,

01:21:21.120 know,

01:21:22.120 it is

01:21:22.920 true.

01:21:23.800 I know

01:21:24.920 Hitler was

01:21:25.840 a bad

01:21:26.240 guy,

01:21:27.140 period.

01:21:27.680 And I also

01:21:28.060 found out

01:21:28.420 today,

01:21:28.800 pretty sure

01:21:29.520 he had a

01:21:29.820 micropenis.

01:21:31.300 I don't know

01:21:31.940 if you saw

01:21:32.240 that news

01:21:32.620 came out

01:21:33.040 today.

01:21:33.400 I don't

01:21:33.600 know why

01:21:33.940 it came

01:21:34.240 out today.

01:21:34.760 Don't

01:21:34.960 know.

01:21:35.160 I didn't

01:21:35.760 think that's

01:21:36.280 been out

01:21:36.580 for a

01:21:36.840 while.

01:21:37.300 Yeah,

01:21:37.480 news I

01:21:37.860 didn't need

01:21:38.320 to know,

01:21:38.820 but okay,

01:21:40.180 it's a

01:21:40.560 fact.

01:21:42.160 It's a

01:21:42.720 fact now.

01:21:44.900 When you

01:21:45.480 get to

01:21:45.860 facts,

01:21:46.720 you just

01:21:47.580 leave the

01:21:48.140 facts,

01:21:48.700 but that

01:21:49.220 doesn't

01:21:49.640 mean that

01:21:50.140 it makes

01:21:50.540 everything

01:21:51.240 else in

01:21:51.920 the chain

01:21:52.480 a fact.

01:21:54.660 All right,

01:21:55.200 back in

01:21:55.520 just a

01:21:55.760 minute.

01:21:56.860 There's

01:21:57.260 been a lot

01:21:57.540 of talk

01:21:57.820 over the

01:21:58.080 decades

01:21:58.360 about

01:21:58.600 women's

01:21:59.040 choice,

01:21:59.640 but we

01:21:59.860 rarely talk

01:22:00.440 about what

01:22:00.840 choice

01:22:01.240 looks like

01:22:01.900 when it's

01:22:02.220 made in

01:22:02.680 a moment

01:22:03.020 of fear,

01:22:03.700 when they

01:22:04.500 are all

01:22:04.960 alone,

01:22:05.380 it's under

01:22:05.720 pressure,

01:22:06.200 and it's

01:22:06.440 without

01:22:06.700 hope.

01:22:07.960 Yeah,

01:22:08.220 it is a

01:22:08.640 choice,

01:22:09.300 but that's

01:22:09.780 a really

01:22:10.740 bad time

01:22:11.500 to make

01:22:12.100 a choice.

01:22:13.240 That's where

01:22:13.800 pre-born

01:22:14.220 steps in,

01:22:14.940 at that

01:22:15.580 moment,

01:22:16.180 and not

01:22:16.680 with judgment,

01:22:17.760 but with

01:22:18.120 compassion.

01:22:19.460 I think

01:22:19.860 this is the

01:22:20.740 reason why

01:22:21.400 I am

01:22:22.080 such a big

01:22:22.760 supporter of

01:22:23.320 pre-born,

01:22:24.360 is you

01:22:25.460 can have

01:22:26.440 your abortion

01:22:27.080 van with

01:22:28.420 all of the

01:22:28.840 pictures of

01:22:29.380 abortions

01:22:30.040 on it.

01:22:31.040 You're not

01:22:31.380 going to

01:22:31.580 change

01:22:31.800 anybody's

01:22:32.400 mind.

01:22:33.240 You can

01:22:33.860 shout

01:22:34.320 at moms

01:22:35.080 going into

01:22:36.040 that's not

01:22:36.820 going to

01:22:37.040 change

01:22:37.300 anybody's

01:22:37.760 mind.

01:22:39.160 Showing

01:22:39.680 compassion,

01:22:40.900 that changes

01:22:41.840 people because

01:22:42.520 most of the

01:22:43.780 women,

01:22:44.120 they don't

01:22:44.500 want to

01:22:44.980 have an

01:22:45.440 abortion.

01:22:46.180 They just

01:22:46.600 don't know

01:22:46.940 what else

01:22:47.400 to do

01:22:47.780 because they're

01:22:48.280 completely

01:22:49.080 alone.

01:22:50.640 They have

01:22:50.880 no way,

01:22:51.520 no one in

01:22:52.000 their life is

01:22:52.480 supporting any

01:22:53.160 other decision

01:22:53.760 other than

01:22:54.240 get rid of

01:22:54.760 it.

01:22:55.480 So this is

01:22:56.660 where they

01:22:57.340 step in with

01:22:57.960 compassion and

01:22:58.960 actual help,

01:22:59.900 but they start

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01:23:05.400 Mom sees an

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01:23:07.620 hears the

01:23:07.940 heartbeat and

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01:24:12.880 We'd love to

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01:24:25.000 Let me say

01:24:26.080 one more thing

01:24:26.600 on this,

01:24:28.880 and then we'll

01:24:29.740 leave it alone

01:24:30.180 for today.

01:24:30.860 But, you know,

01:24:32.060 Stu and I were

01:24:32.480 just talking

01:24:33.000 off air,

01:24:34.160 and, you

01:24:35.740 know, he

01:24:36.000 said, look,

01:24:36.680 there are

01:24:37.060 lines, and

01:24:37.840 I think there

01:24:38.460 are people that

01:24:39.180 are too far

01:24:39.700 gone.

01:24:41.180 And I

01:24:42.560 immediately said,

01:24:43.560 I agree.

01:24:45.060 And then I

01:24:45.660 thought, wait,

01:24:46.220 wait, wait a

01:24:46.620 minute, wait a

01:24:47.100 minute.

01:24:47.740 The Westboro

01:24:48.300 Baptist Church

01:24:48.980 people, I mean,

01:24:51.180 we know what

01:24:51.720 their signs say.

01:24:52.520 It's pretty

01:24:53.940 far.

01:24:54.300 It's pretty

01:24:54.640 far.

01:24:55.820 I have nothing

01:24:56.900 in common with

01:24:57.500 any of those

01:24:58.080 guys.

01:24:58.920 Are they too

01:24:59.940 far gone?

01:25:02.140 I just want to

01:25:03.120 say that because

01:25:03.680 I want to remind

01:25:04.500 you that two

01:25:06.180 of those people,

01:25:07.180 one of them was

01:25:07.800 the leader's

01:25:08.400 daughter, got

01:25:10.480 out of that

01:25:11.160 cult because

01:25:12.560 people were

01:25:14.320 kind to them

01:25:15.420 and just said,

01:25:16.800 hey, I just

01:25:17.100 want to talk to

01:25:17.580 you about this.

01:25:18.500 I'm not listening

01:25:19.060 because you're

01:25:19.540 going to plan

01:25:20.000 all kinds.

01:25:20.460 I just want to

01:25:20.940 ask you some

01:25:21.340 questions.

01:25:21.740 and befriended

01:25:22.740 them and

01:25:23.620 ask them

01:25:23.980 questions.

01:25:25.080 Well, how does

01:25:25.920 that fit with

01:25:26.540 this?

01:25:27.180 And then this

01:25:27.760 with this.

01:25:28.920 And by doing

01:25:29.760 that, you

01:25:31.020 open people's

01:25:32.000 minds and they

01:25:32.860 also realize,

01:25:34.020 oh, wow,

01:25:34.560 you're not the

01:25:36.540 problem.

01:25:37.280 You're not what

01:25:38.780 I've been saying

01:25:39.580 you are.

01:25:40.620 You're actually a

01:25:41.720 reasonable person.

01:25:42.800 Maybe I am on

01:25:44.060 the wrong track.

01:25:45.860 I think it is

01:25:46.480 blessed be the

01:25:47.300 peacemakers.

01:25:48.300 I think that is

01:25:48.920 why, that's just

01:25:50.600 my message today.

01:25:51.740 Blessed be the

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01:28:24.680 Hey, Apple just made

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01:30:01.680 So, Stu,

01:30:04.680 why wouldn't you want a

01:30:08.060 digital ID issued by the

01:30:10.360 state?

01:30:11.380 Why wouldn't I want one?

01:30:12.360 Yeah, why wouldn't you

01:30:13.200 want one?

01:30:13.300 Gosh, I can't think of any

01:30:14.320 reasons.

01:30:14.880 It sounds like it would

01:30:15.640 make everything so much

01:30:16.340 easier.

01:30:16.860 Right.

01:30:17.640 You know, you can always

01:30:18.600 trust the government to have

01:30:20.180 your best interests at heart,

01:30:21.620 unlike these corporations.

01:30:23.760 and, you know, so I think I

01:30:28.420 would take one immediately.

01:30:29.620 But are there some people

01:30:30.320 that are resisting this?

01:30:31.320 I can't even imagine.

01:30:32.120 Well, there's some that say

01:30:33.240 that, you know, this is the

01:30:34.780 beginning of an all-seeing,

01:30:36.640 all-knowing state, and the

01:30:37.900 next thing you know, they

01:30:39.140 control everything.

01:30:41.040 It is weird, too, because

01:30:42.120 is that even speculation?

01:30:44.900 Like, isn't this what, like,

01:30:45.820 for example, China is already

01:30:47.120 doing?

01:30:47.680 Oh, yeah, China's already

01:30:48.480 doing it.

01:30:48.780 They're way down this road.

01:30:49.420 And Europe, they're trying to

01:30:51.120 get it in, and they talk about

01:30:52.540 it openly, that this is what

01:30:54.120 it is.

01:30:54.880 The next thing, you get the

01:30:55.920 digital ID is the first thing.

01:30:57.380 Then it includes your medical

01:30:58.540 records.

01:30:59.260 It includes all your health,

01:31:01.380 everything.

01:31:02.320 It will give you access to the

01:31:04.760 hospitals or not access to the

01:31:06.520 hospitals.

01:31:06.980 It will allow you to buy

01:31:10.780 things or not buy things.

01:31:13.340 It'll allow you to access

01:31:14.900 online or not access online.

01:31:17.720 It is control of absolutely

01:31:19.820 everything, and that's in the

01:31:21.820 design, and they talk about it

01:31:23.540 openly, okay?

01:31:25.520 We're backdooring it.

01:31:27.840 We're not, because they know

01:31:29.160 Americans are not going to go

01:31:30.180 for that.

01:31:31.220 Really?

01:31:32.500 Did you meet us during COVID?

01:31:35.440 And they've been trying to,

01:31:36.720 remember, that's what a lot of

01:31:38.060 people said COVID really, the

01:31:39.540 real thing on COVID was really

01:31:41.460 all about, was digital ID.

01:31:43.820 We've got to get everybody on to

01:31:44.940 a digital ID.

01:31:48.180 Now, because Americans aren't for

01:31:50.520 it, the good, good, good, good,

01:31:53.000 good, good people at Apple are

01:31:55.580 here for you, presenting the new

01:31:59.300 Apple digital ID.

01:32:01.800 Now, at the TSA checkpoints in more

01:32:05.800 than 250 airports all across the

01:32:08.620 U.S., you can present your digital

01:32:11.440 ID at TSA checkpoints and get right

01:32:16.560 onto that plane.

01:32:18.040 Imagine it allows you to create and

01:32:20.600 store an ID in an Apple wallet using

01:32:23.500 your U.S. passport.

01:32:24.780 The Apple digital ID acceptance will

01:32:29.700 begin to roll out at TSA checkpoints

01:32:31.940 for domestic travel in over 250

01:32:33.940 airports across the U.S., the U.S.A.

01:32:36.680 Apple notes it's not a replacement for

01:32:39.180 your physical passport and you can't

01:32:41.540 use it yet for international travel or

01:32:43.640 border crossings, but you can store

01:32:46.780 everything digitally in their wallet.

01:32:50.220 I can already pay for almost everything

01:32:53.700 with that wallet.

01:32:55.240 Now, I can use it as an official

01:32:57.420 government ID.

01:32:59.460 Yeah.

01:33:00.520 Who doesn't want that?

01:33:02.480 I mean, I...

01:33:04.220 It does sort of sound appealing, doesn't

01:33:06.700 it?

01:33:07.360 I mean, just speaking frankly for a

01:33:09.800 moment...

01:33:10.220 Yes, it does.

01:33:10.740 It does.

01:33:11.600 Very appealing.

01:33:12.760 When I get on a plane, you know, I'm

01:33:14.780 using that as my key, you know.

01:33:17.180 You have cars now where your phone is

01:33:20.300 your key.

01:33:21.980 You have...

01:33:22.980 You can store all sorts of credit

01:33:24.140 cards.

01:33:24.480 You can pay through the phone.

01:33:26.340 I mean, what's the argument to the

01:33:28.300 average person that this is some bad

01:33:29.980 thing?

01:33:30.260 I have to carry this in my wallet

01:33:31.480 anyway.

01:33:32.000 I'm carrying my phone instead.

01:33:34.600 I'd love that.

01:33:35.920 I'd love that if it was completely

01:33:38.600 isolated on my phone.

01:33:41.160 Now, Apple's pretty good with

01:33:42.280 security, actually.

01:33:43.200 They are.

01:33:43.420 They are legitimately good with

01:33:44.740 privacy.

01:33:45.120 They're the best.

01:33:45.760 They are.

01:33:46.100 No, I know.

01:33:46.960 I mean that sincerely.

01:33:47.980 We're saying it with a sarcastic

01:33:49.400 voice.

01:33:49.640 Because what does the best mean?

01:33:52.080 What does the best mean?

01:33:53.240 It's a relative term.

01:33:54.300 It's a relative term, but they are

01:33:56.120 the best at digital, at, you know,

01:33:58.540 security.

01:33:59.200 As opposed to some of their

01:34:00.680 competitors.

01:34:01.400 Right.

01:34:02.000 And I have to tell you, when you

01:34:06.280 start putting everything, all

01:34:10.340 records, all passports, all, it is

01:34:14.380 your one universal key, and it's

01:34:17.900 tied directly to online, where it's

01:34:23.040 tracking everything, everywhere you

01:34:25.200 go, every dollar you spent.

01:34:26.880 This is just a very bad idea.

01:34:29.160 Very bad idea.

01:34:30.440 There's a story.

01:34:31.360 I can't remember.

01:34:33.600 Oh, it's called the book of

01:34:36.300 revelation.

01:34:36.820 I mean, how much clearer do you

01:34:42.920 have to be where you can't go

01:34:45.000 anywhere, you can't, you can't buy

01:34:48.160 anything unless you have the mark.

01:34:50.240 Well, I'm not saying Apple is coming

01:34:53.040 up with the mark of the beast, but this

01:34:54.600 is the technology that sure kind of

01:34:57.100 fits it.

01:34:57.940 And I just don't, do you know why the

01:35:01.820 Germans could round up so many Jews

01:35:03.540 every night?

01:35:06.660 IBM.

01:35:08.500 IBM.

01:35:09.060 That's a book, right?

01:35:09.900 IBM and the Holocaust.

01:35:11.560 IBM came up with the punch card

01:35:13.620 system.

01:35:14.060 You remember when I was a kid, I don't

01:35:15.580 know if anybody else remembers this, but

01:35:16.900 you know, these computers were the size

01:35:18.380 of rooms and you had punch cards and

01:35:20.620 you would feed it in and it would store

01:35:23.160 the information on the punch card.

01:35:24.820 Okay.

01:35:25.000 And so you could ask it anything on a

01:35:27.440 punch card, you type it out and it

01:35:28.580 would punch out whatever, and you'd

01:35:30.220 feed it in the computer and it would

01:35:31.520 feed out another punch card and then

01:35:33.140 you'd translate it.

01:35:34.080 Okay.

01:35:35.300 They put everything onto these punch

01:35:37.000 cards where everybody lived, who was

01:35:39.180 related to whom, et cetera, et cetera.

01:35:40.860 So they could go in the afternoon and

01:35:42.800 go, we got to clear out another 20,000.

01:35:45.300 Where are they?

01:35:47.160 Feed it into IBM, punch card it out,

01:35:50.540 make it round everybody up.

01:35:51.920 Okay.

01:35:52.380 That was then there wouldn't be a

01:35:54.880 Jew alive on the planet if we had

01:35:58.000 digital IDs.

01:36:00.100 Not a chance.

01:36:01.100 Yeah.

01:36:01.240 And it really, it does sort of rest on

01:36:04.980 your belief.

01:36:05.820 We don't cross those lines, right?

01:36:07.840 Yeah.

01:36:08.000 That our government doesn't become

01:36:09.800 Nazi Germany.

01:36:11.220 And again, everybody who has faced a

01:36:15.600 government like that has thought about,

01:36:17.220 oh gosh, our government won't do this.

01:36:19.440 Right.

01:36:19.560 Like everybody who...

01:36:20.580 Think of COVID.

01:36:21.140 We were on the air saying like in

01:36:24.220 what, February.

01:36:25.880 Can you imagine?

01:36:27.000 Look at what they're doing.

01:36:28.060 They're welding people into their

01:36:29.440 houses.

01:36:29.800 Yeah.

01:36:30.300 In China.

01:36:30.400 I remember in Italy being...

01:36:31.800 Because China was...

01:36:32.840 China's China.

01:36:33.940 Am I surprised they're welding people

01:36:35.780 into their houses?

01:36:36.140 We're like, there's no way you could

01:36:37.860 even help us stay in our own houses.

01:36:40.200 But when it happened in Italy, I remember

01:36:41.840 being like, oh my...

01:36:42.740 Like that's...

01:36:43.580 We share a lot of what I thought a

01:36:46.780 general understanding.

01:36:47.540 It just said, not happen here.

01:36:49.580 I remember thinking...

01:36:51.160 Sitting in the chair I'm sitting in

01:36:52.600 right now.

01:36:53.320 Me too.

01:36:53.700 Thinking, watching the map, you know,

01:36:56.120 on TV of Italy as it got more and

01:36:58.220 more red and circles started popping

01:36:59.760 up all over and they're getting all

01:37:00.840 these cases and I'm thinking to

01:37:01.800 myself, they're actually making people

01:37:04.000 stay in their houses?

01:37:04.880 Can you believe this?

01:37:05.820 Like I couldn't even comprehend it.

01:37:07.980 Yeah.

01:37:08.280 That they would even ask us to do it

01:37:10.120 in the United States.

01:37:11.260 And then a few weeks later, there we

01:37:12.300 were.

01:37:12.780 There we were.

01:37:13.660 There we were.

01:37:14.320 And some states were better than

01:37:15.560 others.

01:37:16.160 Oh, yeah.

01:37:16.680 And there was never a point where I

01:37:18.560 was not able to leave my house, but

01:37:20.440 there were lots of restrictions on

01:37:22.060 where I could go.

01:37:23.140 I know people that couldn't leave

01:37:24.500 their house.

01:37:25.040 Yeah.

01:37:25.560 I know people not in Texas and other

01:37:27.160 places could not leave their house,

01:37:28.740 could not go outside, could not go

01:37:31.720 outside, couldn't go for a walk.

01:37:34.400 That was insanity.

01:37:35.660 Insanity.

01:37:36.040 Always.

01:37:36.520 And, you know, and we just took it.

01:37:38.720 We just took it.

01:37:40.120 This is already happening.

01:37:41.960 We didn't take it, but I know what

01:37:42.940 you're saying.

01:37:43.560 In some states we did.

01:37:45.260 Some people did.

01:37:46.200 Some people not only took it, cheered

01:37:48.640 it on, and vilified people who

01:37:50.480 wouldn't go along with it.

01:37:51.380 Yes.

01:37:51.960 Yes.

01:37:52.560 Though I do think that when you look

01:37:54.220 back at the overall arc of that

01:37:56.900 period, when you don't focus on the,

01:37:59.240 you know, the very fine details of it,

01:38:02.140 what you get is a society that did

01:38:04.260 say no to it.

01:38:05.540 It took a while, and it was, it did

01:38:07.500 happen in some states and not others.

01:38:09.460 We eventually did get to that place,

01:38:11.120 and because of constitutional

01:38:12.400 protections, I think some of that

01:38:14.620 stuff was reversed.

01:38:15.580 It's, I'm not saying it's a positive

01:38:16.780 story overall, but I mean, at the

01:38:18.540 end of the day, we didn't turn into

01:38:20.220 Nazi Germany.

01:38:21.120 Right.

01:38:21.400 From it.

01:38:22.100 But they also didn't have total

01:38:23.700 control over everything.

01:38:25.560 They couldn't just shut your money

01:38:27.120 off.

01:38:27.880 Right.

01:38:28.400 Okay.

01:38:28.640 The difference here, digital ID is the

01:38:31.420 first step to an authoritarian state

01:38:34.040 where they have all control.

01:38:35.980 Doesn't mean you end there.

01:38:37.620 It just means you've given people that

01:38:40.300 power.

01:38:40.880 You don't ever want to give people

01:38:43.560 that power.

01:38:44.840 Ever, ever, ever.

01:38:46.440 We're not going to use it that way.

01:38:48.040 Tell me one thing that the government

01:38:49.720 has said we're not going to do.

01:38:52.240 Besides balance the budget.

01:38:54.080 Show me one thing they said we're not

01:38:55.880 going to do that they, you know, they

01:38:58.140 haven't done.

01:38:59.620 Right.

01:38:59.860 Lots of positive things they've said

01:39:01.420 they're going to do and then didn't do.

01:39:02.860 And then didn't do them.

01:39:03.940 But yeah, you're right.

01:39:05.700 Well, it's, it is a step down a path

01:39:08.680 that you don't want to walk down.

01:39:10.540 Especially when, you know, if we were

01:39:12.320 becoming a more and more healthy

01:39:14.300 republic, if we were becoming a more

01:39:16.540 and more just republic, a more calm

01:39:19.540 republic, a republic that was starting

01:39:21.960 to really realize, you know, I have a

01:39:23.480 real responsibility as a citizen not to

01:39:25.920 burn Minneapolis down.

01:39:27.740 You know what I mean?

01:39:28.700 I have a, I have a real responsibility

01:39:30.760 as somebody in my party says, I think we

01:39:32.940 should behead them.

01:39:34.040 I'm going to stand up and say, no, we

01:39:35.620 shouldn't.

01:39:36.040 And I'll lead a campaign to make sure

01:39:37.680 that that person is not, you know, the

01:39:40.000 one that wins that election.

01:39:41.640 Even if it's my, even if it's my

01:39:43.360 running mate, we're not that nation.

01:39:46.920 We're not going in that direction.

01:39:48.400 We're going the opposite.

01:39:50.060 When you have a nation that is like, you

01:39:52.160 know, I don't know exactly what's going

01:39:53.880 to happen with the dollar because of

01:39:56.640 everything is good.

01:39:57.360 You don't want to hand them the tool

01:39:59.440 that just says, oh, by the way, you can

01:40:01.720 buy everything now, you know, with your

01:40:03.740 digital ID and it'll all be centralized

01:40:06.300 and you've already signed up.

01:40:08.220 You have it.

01:40:08.780 So we're just giving it now.

01:40:10.580 Your dollar is not going to be worth

01:40:11.740 anything soon.

01:40:13.220 Just make sure you get the digital

01:40:14.740 ID.

01:40:15.380 You don't want that scenario.

01:40:18.000 You stay away from those lines.

01:40:20.300 We do have to protect those lines.

01:40:21.700 But I will say, you know, history is

01:40:25.700 littered with examples of people who say

01:40:28.140 they're going to protect those lines.

01:40:29.980 And when convenience rears its head, they

01:40:33.580 choose the convenience.

01:40:34.440 I mean, it happens almost every single

01:40:36.720 time, Glenn.

01:40:38.140 There's almost no examples of people who

01:40:41.140 will resist these technologies.

01:40:42.580 So that is on the freedom loving side,

01:40:46.680 okay, where you're like, I'm not going

01:40:48.540 to do it.

01:40:49.140 I'm not going to give my face to anybody.

01:40:52.840 Face ID on Apple.

01:40:54.040 We're all doing it.

01:40:55.040 Right.

01:40:55.120 On the other side, there's almost no

01:41:00.140 example of getting something that can be

01:41:03.560 used to control people and having those

01:41:07.740 who are nefarious on either side not use

01:41:11.440 those things.

01:41:13.060 Eventually, they will find a way to use

01:41:15.500 those things.

01:41:16.320 Look at the Patriot Act.

01:41:19.540 We all were not.

01:41:20.520 Oh, you know what?

01:41:21.280 We're all patriots.

01:41:22.840 We're all patriots.

01:41:23.760 We all believe in the same thing.

01:41:25.280 Maybe a slight simplification of that

01:41:26.800 conversation, but I know it is.

01:41:28.220 But generally speaking, we all just kind

01:41:30.940 of went along with it.

01:41:31.880 And look how out of control it is now.

01:41:34.320 Look how out of control our country is on

01:41:36.920 spying on our own citizens.

01:41:39.340 Something 20 years ago, we would have we

01:41:41.660 would have we would have marched up to

01:41:44.020 Washington to make sure all of those people

01:41:45.600 were standing in front of a judge and going

01:41:47.320 to jail that week.

01:41:49.000 We don't even recognize it anymore.

01:41:51.140 You don't want these tools given.

01:41:55.060 We're simultaneously being watched more than

01:41:58.360 ever before.

01:41:58.960 But as you brought up in our one, we were

01:42:01.600 Thomas Crooks is just on the Internet.

01:42:03.400 It's like threatening everybody.

01:42:05.320 How do I be how do I behead this politician?

01:42:08.440 Right.

01:42:08.940 And like no one even knows.

01:42:10.060 No one pays attention.

01:42:10.980 A search.

01:42:11.740 And our government is like, yeah, we couldn't

01:42:14.420 find anything digitally.

01:42:16.140 Wait, wait.

01:42:17.220 He did this.

01:42:18.960 How come what is happening?

01:42:20.840 That's why.

01:42:21.360 I mean, in a time when we distrust our

01:42:23.920 government more and more, that's the last

01:42:27.200 thing you do is give them more power and

01:42:29.760 access to everything about you.

01:42:32.360 How do you balance this, though, Glenn?

01:42:33.480 Because one of the things and maybe we could

01:42:35.500 take a I know we have to take a break here,

01:42:36.820 but maybe you can answer this.

01:42:38.220 One of the things I always thought about the

01:42:39.500 most brilliant thing of our founders were

01:42:42.080 understanding human fallibility.

01:42:45.440 Yes.

01:42:45.920 Right.

01:42:46.160 Like understanding that we weren't going to be

01:42:48.600 perfect and we should set up a system that

01:42:51.120 understood that people have selfish motivations

01:42:55.080 at times and that that the system will be able

01:42:57.920 to understand that and still be able to deliver a

01:43:02.460 great world.

01:43:03.480 Right.

01:43:04.440 This is the situation here.

01:43:06.520 Like this is why I have no real time for some of the

01:43:10.380 conversations we've had on some of the people we've

01:43:13.500 read and talked about who are like, let's just

01:43:16.080 stop AI for five years and well, and then let's

01:43:20.080 assess it.

01:43:20.720 Like even Elon Musk has said stuff like this and

01:43:22.920 like I think he's even abandoned that to some

01:43:25.360 degree as he's developing AI himself.

01:43:27.760 But like the idea that we're going to slow this

01:43:30.860 down or stop it and have a conversation.

01:43:32.920 People just want it too much.

01:43:34.880 And at some point we just have to understand

01:43:36.340 they're going to.

01:43:37.400 We better live in that world, understand that

01:43:39.800 world and try to deal with the real world.

01:43:41.840 Because if we just say, okay, well, let's just

01:43:44.280 stop.

01:43:44.740 Well, that's great.

01:43:45.420 You know, who's not going to stop China?

01:43:47.800 You know, who's not going to stop like bad

01:43:50.380 actors, hacking groups, all these other things.

01:43:54.000 And if we base our solution on, well, let's just

01:43:58.620 not do these things, we're going to wind up losing.

01:44:01.560 And I, you know, the digital idea is probably a

01:44:03.740 small part of that conversation, but I think it's

01:44:05.920 part of it.

01:44:07.000 People are going to want it.

01:44:08.020 I don't have to bring my wallet.

01:44:10.460 So how do we, knowing that people will choose

01:44:14.140 to have these things on their phone, because it's

01:44:17.280 going to be easier, how are we going to then push

01:44:21.880 back against that and stop these things from going

01:44:24.180 down these roads?

01:44:25.100 Are there protections we can build in?

01:44:26.080 I will give you, I'll give you what the founder,

01:44:29.120 what I think the founders would have said.

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01:45:48.420 So I think the answer to your question is, there's no way back.

01:46:05.080 Oh, the typical Glenn Beck optimism I should come to expect for this

01:46:08.740 program.

01:46:09.260 Yeah.

01:46:09.620 But that is why, that's why I get up every day.

01:46:12.440 That's why you get up every day, I think, because the only way back is

01:46:19.080 to remember what our founders said.

01:46:21.220 Our founders said, this is wholly inadequate.

01:46:24.500 This will never work for people who are not virtuous and religious, who

01:46:30.320 haven't understood they serve something higher than government or

01:46:34.860 themselves.

01:46:35.440 They serve God.

01:46:36.880 And that puts a limit and a governor on them and their passions and what

01:46:41.460 they do.

01:46:42.680 If you lose that, you lose virtue.

01:46:46.360 You, you can't, you can't have freedom.

01:46:49.960 Okay.

01:46:50.360 You just can't look at how, what's happening.

01:46:53.140 We can't have freedom because everybody's like, I want it my way.

01:46:56.360 I have a right, you know, and then they go burn down Minneapolis and

01:46:59.900 you're like, wait, you don't have a right to do that.

01:47:02.440 But, but you can't, you can't stop because half of the country is like,

01:47:06.300 well, that's their right.

01:47:07.160 They were, they were right.

01:47:07.800 Cause they were, they were, they, you know, they were sad one day when

01:47:10.880 they were kids.

01:47:11.840 You're like, what, what?

01:47:13.960 So this system does not work.

01:47:17.040 We have to go back to the beginning.

01:47:19.720 That's why not a revival, but only an awakening will work.

01:47:26.980 You notice how many people are talking about God the way they were just a

01:47:30.880 few weeks ago.

01:47:31.500 Are we starting to go into the September 11th, September 12th kind of thing

01:47:35.160 where we all found God.

01:47:36.600 We're all like, you know what?

01:47:37.480 That's right.

01:47:38.100 And then three weeks later, we're like, yeah, whatever.

01:47:40.760 It definitely feels like that's happening.

01:47:42.660 Feels like it is right.

01:47:44.300 Um, that is, that's the trouble.

01:47:47.380 That's a revival happens from time to time.

01:47:52.100 We had lots of revivals in the, in, during the progressive era, all the time,

01:47:56.920 people had revive revivals.

01:47:58.180 What we need is an awakening, which comes after a revival, after people go, oh,

01:48:05.220 God's calling to me.

01:48:06.660 I got to look into that.

01:48:07.780 Then you look into it and then you don't just go, I got to tell you I'm better

01:48:12.480 than you because Jesus, I love Jesus more than you.

01:48:15.820 Your Jesus isn't as strong as my Jesus.

01:48:18.280 That gets you nowhere.

01:48:20.600 An awakening is when you say, Jesus is who I serve.

01:48:26.120 I just want to be more like him.

01:48:28.740 How would he deal with this situation?

01:48:31.320 Even when people aren't looking, how do I live my life?

01:48:35.240 How do I do my job?

01:48:37.180 How do I, how do, what do I vote for?

01:48:39.900 What do I look for in a spouse or a president or whatever?

01:48:44.120 That's an awakening.

01:48:45.640 And that's when the country changes.

01:48:47.480 Other than that, there is no other way back.

01:48:50.200 There's no secret sauce.

01:48:51.620 There's no, there's no politician or party that can fix it.

01:48:55.460 Only an awakening will.

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01:50:36.380 Hey, can I ask you for a favor?

01:50:39.820 Would you say a prayer for some of my friends like Megyn Kelly?

01:50:44.720 I have been where they are and they are under the gun big time.

01:50:51.760 Everything that Megyn is saying is being taken out of context by one side or another and they are surrounding her and, you know, I know her well enough to know nobody's going to beat her down.

01:51:01.540 But just pray for people who do what we do, that we have wisdom, that we see the truth, we know the truth, and we have the courage to say the truth.

01:51:13.520 And when we're wrong, we have the courage to say we got it wrong, but it's getting more and more difficult to do this every day.

01:51:24.060 And I thought it was difficult before, but say a prayer.

01:51:28.080 And you don't have to pray for me.

01:51:29.160 I mean, I'd love it, but pray for Megyn in particular, if you would.

01:51:35.260 I've got somebody on who is in just an amazing, amazing show from Amazon, House of David.

01:51:44.500 If you haven't seen House of David yet, you have to.

01:51:47.820 Do you remember when, like, you know, biblical movies, I mean, they were good in the 50s, and then they got really, really bad.

01:51:55.000 And all through the 70s and 80s and 90s and, you know, early 2000s, they were horrible.

01:51:59.840 And then all of a sudden they started getting really, really good.

01:52:02.920 This one is amazing.

01:52:04.560 This is as good as the Jesus.

01:52:06.600 What is the Jesus one?

01:52:07.700 The Chosen.

01:52:09.620 It's called House of David.

01:52:10.760 It's on Amazon.

01:52:12.300 And we have the guy who portrays David, Michael Iskandor, on with us.

01:52:18.380 Michael, how are you?

01:52:20.660 I'm good.

01:52:21.300 How are you?

01:52:21.600 What an introduction.

01:52:22.440 Thank you for that.

01:52:23.140 So, I mean, it's really, I mean, come on.

01:52:26.680 Was there any time that you thought, oh, man, this might, this could, I hope they do it right.

01:52:32.480 And then you saw the finished product and you were like, wow, this is good.

01:52:37.080 Yeah, I mean, that was, you know, I try to still keep my head down.

01:52:41.900 And, you know, it's not finished until it's finished.

01:52:45.000 And season two is coming out.

01:52:46.900 But, you know, I'm just so glad to be hearing the response of how this show is really affecting people.

01:52:56.000 So, can I talk to you about Goliath?

01:52:58.640 Because Goliath is portrayed really as a giant, not just a big guy.

01:53:03.440 I mean, he's a giant.

01:53:06.500 Yes.

01:53:06.920 Talk to me about that.

01:53:10.320 Well, I'll tell you what, when I first met Martin, he's a giant in real life.

01:53:16.300 I went to the gym with him one time.

01:53:19.680 And, you know, I knew I'm going to go get, you know, messed up.

01:53:23.860 So, I was prepared for that.

01:53:25.780 And he made the workout for two and a half hours.

01:53:30.540 And then I thought that the workout was done.

01:53:33.080 And he was like, no, there's another half.

01:53:35.720 And Martin Ford is a really dedicated man.

01:53:40.780 And he just, he pushed me to the edge when it came to working out.

01:53:46.040 And, you know, when it comes to his role with Goliath, he is someone that, you know, really just put in all the effort, both physically and emotionally, to really portray that part as best he can.

01:53:59.680 How long did it take you to learn how to do the slingshot?

01:54:04.420 Three days.

01:54:05.560 It wasn't too bad.

01:54:06.360 Wow.

01:54:06.960 Wow.

01:54:07.900 I heard that, I mean, I heard that you had a problem with the sheep, that the sheep were, they were not helpful.

01:54:13.280 The sheep, man, well, the sheep, the sheep were actually really interesting.

01:54:18.060 I remember when we first started filming, they, they put me in sheep training classes.

01:54:25.080 Because when I get on set, they have to make sure that I'm not, you know, I'm not going to get attacked by one of the sheep and I'm comfortable around them.

01:54:32.380 But the sheep, the first day I show up to this training and the sheep hated me.

01:54:36.920 And you'd think that the guy who plays David, you know, would be good with sheep, but it was the exact opposite.

01:54:42.020 No, I don't, I don't think that, I don't think that's natural.

01:54:44.680 You're an actor.

01:54:45.420 I don't know if that's, yep, well, they picked me because I'm good with sheep.

01:54:50.500 Okay.

01:54:51.320 I should have got classes from you.

01:54:56.020 But no, I mean, really, I spent a lot of time with the shepherd and he would give me some really amazing lessons.

01:55:02.760 He, he saw that I was having trouble and he said, you know, you should, um, you should stick next to me because the sheep, when they see you with the shepherd, they'll know that you're with me.

01:55:13.940 So they'll never leave my side.

01:55:16.300 It's amazing.

01:55:16.880 I want you to spend a lot of time with me.

01:55:18.700 He said, oh, okay.

01:55:19.780 And then he said, I want you to know another thing.

01:55:23.400 Um, a bad shepherd is a shepherd who's behind the flock.

01:55:27.620 And so you, you're going to be a good shepherd and show them what you're not going to let them lead you.

01:55:33.200 You're going to, you're going to lead them and you're going to be in the front taking the risks and, and showing them the path.

01:55:38.660 Um, and, and he's, he's saying this and I'm like, I think, I think I'm getting more than just a sheep lesson here.

01:55:45.840 Um, but it really helped in, in terms of, you know, understanding who David was as a person, um, and, and his relationship to Christ and, um, why, why David was chosen as king.

01:55:59.820 Is it true that you fasted, um, before the audition?

01:56:04.060 I mean, you're a Broadway guy.

01:56:05.460 Yeah.

01:56:06.280 Yeah.

01:56:07.200 Yeah.

01:56:07.600 No, I, I, well,

01:56:08.660 I sent them the first audition and I was really excited about it and it was a dream of mine for a long time.

01:56:15.580 You know, one of the, one of these dreams that you don't tell anyone and you don't think that's ever going to happen.

01:56:19.340 To play David specifically or to be in a.

01:56:21.560 Yeah.

01:56:22.700 Really?

01:56:23.280 To play David, to play David.

01:56:25.660 Um, and cause I was inspired by the chosen and I wanted to, I wanted to like maybe do a flashback scene as like a young David or something.

01:56:33.420 And then when I, so when I got the audition and they originally said no, I was like, oh, you know,

01:56:38.520 that would have been, that would have been a good opportunity.

01:56:42.740 And then I, I got another audition and I called my mom and I said, mom, this doesn't happen off.

01:56:47.200 Like, can you believe it?

01:56:48.580 And she said, Michael, calm down.

01:56:51.040 The one thing I need you to do, I need you to fast and I need you to pray.

01:56:55.060 I said, yes, ma'am.

01:56:55.820 And, uh, a week later I was having a lunch with John Irwin and he, you know, everything kind of took off from there.

01:57:04.220 But, um, yeah, I'm fasting and prayer.

01:57:07.920 You know, I'm friends with, I went to school with Jim Caviezel and, uh, I can't remember what grade he was in.

01:57:14.720 Maybe fifth grade, I think, but he went into, uh, he went into church and all by himself and he prayed and he made a pact with God.

01:57:24.440 Let me, all I want, Lord, is to play you in a movie someday and I will live my life honorably to be able to be ready.

01:57:32.440 But I want to play you.

01:57:34.740 And so, you know, he told me when Mel called, he was like, yeah, I've been waiting for the call.

01:57:39.540 Well, it's a, it's an amazing thing.

01:57:42.300 Um, wow.

01:57:43.380 I didn't know that story.

01:57:44.400 That's beautiful.

01:57:45.120 Yeah.

01:57:45.480 Um, what do you think it is about the story that, I mean, this is the number one show, number one series on, uh, on Amazon, on Amazon prime this year.

01:57:55.060 What, what is it about the series that you think is connecting?

01:57:59.340 You know, I, I think it's different for everybody.

01:58:03.160 I'll tell you for me, the, the reason why this, this show means a lot to me is because David points us to Christ and, and David is a, as a person, he, to me, he's the embodiment of what it means to be human and to make mistakes and yet to still find forgiveness.

01:58:20.540 And his story is a very complex, long story.

01:58:23.840 Um, but, but he is a man that, that he's known as the man after God's own heart.

01:58:29.720 And so for people to see that example, to see, to see the man that, that God loved so much that Jesus himself was known as the son of David.

01:58:40.040 Um, I think that's, what's resonating with people.

01:58:42.300 They see the Holy spirit in the show.

01:58:44.180 At least that's, that's what I see.

01:58:46.580 Um, and that's, that's who I do it for.

01:58:48.920 Um, it's, it's, it's amazing to me how, um, with an exception of one, the Bible, every single hero is so deeply flawed.

01:59:02.480 Um, and David is so good, so good.

01:59:07.040 And then, you know, becomes really, really does one of the worst things I think I've ever read in the Bible.

01:59:14.120 I mean, just really bad.

01:59:15.360 Um, are you going to play, do you have any idea if, assuming the ratings are there, how long of the story you're going to tell?

01:59:23.820 I really don't know.

01:59:25.020 I mean, we're just trying to get through season two right now on the release.

01:59:28.620 Hopefully, you know, pray for us that we can get a season three and then we can keep telling the story.

01:59:33.500 Um, I don't know what Erwin and Gunn have in cooking up, but I, I pray that we, we tell as much of the story as possible.

01:59:42.560 And I, I think it's important to see both the good and the bad, like you said, to, to see this flawed human being, to see someone make mistakes and yet to see them get back up and, and repent and ask for forgiveness and find grace in God.

02:00:00.120 So, we'll see, pray for us.

02:00:03.980 You, uh, I read someplace that you were a Broadway guy and I thought his career is not over yet.

02:00:11.240 I mean, you might, I mean, are you prepared to always be David?

02:00:14.540 I mean, uh, the guy who's playing Jesus now, Jim Caviezel said, you know, I'm not, it took years before he was allowed to play anything else.

02:00:23.880 Um, and I can't remember the guy who's playing Jesus now his whole life.

02:00:26.880 He is Jesus now to a lot of people.

02:00:28.800 Are you prepared to this be you for the rest of your life now and not, you know, going, going back and doing other things if, if that's the way it is?

02:00:38.320 Um, you know what, God has taken me to so much in my life and I'm, I'm sure he's going to get me through this.

02:00:46.960 And if, if, if I'm known as the guy who plays David, I think that's actually a blessing.

02:00:52.000 Um, and I, I don't know what God has as his story, but, but I trust him.

02:00:57.660 So when that time comes, uh, I'll worry about it then.

02:01:00.920 But for now, I'm, I'm having a great time, uh, portraying one of my favorite people.

02:01:05.720 I have to just ask you a personal, uh, question, one for me.

02:01:10.640 My daughter wants to be on Broadway.

02:01:12.800 Could you talk her out of it in 30 seconds, please?

02:01:18.200 Wow.

02:01:18.740 Oh man.

02:01:19.580 I don't, I don't know if I want to talk her out of it.

02:01:21.600 Okay.

02:01:22.080 Well, I have time to time for you to go now.

02:01:26.260 Michael, thank you so much.

02:01:27.600 And we're looking forward.

02:01:28.840 When, when is it premiere this weekend?

02:01:31.060 Is it out?

02:01:31.500 Well, episode eight is out, uh, on Wonder Project on Broadway.

02:01:35.720 Prime this Sunday.

02:01:36.940 Yeah.

02:01:37.100 Okay.

02:01:37.380 Good.

02:01:37.660 Good.

02:01:38.000 Um, yeah.

02:01:38.880 Well, we'll be watching.

02:01:39.700 Thank you so much, Michael.

02:01:40.500 Appreciate it.

02:01:41.180 Thank you so much.

02:01:42.060 Have a good one.

02:01:42.740 Take care.

02:01:43.120 If you haven't seen the first season, you really should see the, I mean, it's really,

02:01:47.780 really good.

02:01:48.840 It's one of those that I started watching, you know, and, uh, I stopped because I'm like,

02:01:54.580 wait, Tanya, we should watch this together.

02:01:57.040 And she came home.

02:01:57.900 And so we started watching it.

02:01:58.900 And I think we watched the whole season in like one weekend.

02:02:01.560 It's one of those that you just, it's really good.

02:02:04.180 Season two premieres this Sunday.

02:02:06.980 All right.

02:02:07.520 Let me tell you about the burner launcher.

02:02:08.780 Everybody has that one moment where they think, what would I do if something actually

02:02:12.100 happened?

02:02:12.800 You know, actually in a life or death situation, you hear a noise outside or the dog starts

02:02:16.640 barking and suddenly you're standing, you know, in the dark holding, I don't know,

02:02:19.900 a TV remote.

02:02:20.760 Um, that's a relatable feeling to me.

02:02:24.520 And that's why I kind of like the burner launcher, you know, burner is a non-lethal

02:02:27.840 self-defense tool that can stop an attacker without taking a life.

02:02:30.980 It's legal in all 50 States.

02:02:32.300 No permit required small enough to keep anywhere at home in your car, even in your, your bag

02:02:37.020 when you travel, I have to tell you, um, I wish I would have had this.

02:02:41.240 The scariest thing that ever happened to me was I heard my wife heard something and

02:02:46.840 everybody's asleep in the house.

02:02:48.100 Glenn, I, did you hear that?

02:02:49.260 No, I didn't hear anything.

02:02:50.240 Go back to sleep, honey.

02:02:51.240 No, I'm telling you there's somebody in the house, get your gun.

02:02:54.720 So I got my gun walking out and I get to the front living room and I'm like, I have a gun

02:03:01.320 and I will shoot.

02:03:03.280 If there is somebody in the house, identify yourself or I will shoot nothing.

02:03:09.120 Heard the noise was around the corner and I, I had my gun aimed right around the corner,

02:03:14.920 right at the corner.

02:03:15.800 And I said, I'm coming, I'm turning the corner and I have a gun.

02:03:18.940 If you don't identify yourself, I, I, I fear for my life and my family's life and I will

02:03:25.380 shoot you.

02:03:27.160 And that's when my son said, dad, it's me.

02:03:30.660 And he was like 12.

02:03:31.900 And I mean, had I not been that clear with him and he knew that I would shoot, he may

02:03:40.880 not have.

02:03:41.220 I could have shot my own son.

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02:03:56.060 A wise man once said, trust in God and always keep watch on the gate.

02:04:03.680 I don't know about you, but that sounds like a solid plan to me.

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02:04:39.620 I'm sorry.

02:04:49.880 Just look up to CNN and it says Blue Origin's mission to Mars.

02:04:56.460 Blue Origin.

02:04:57.380 Is that Bezos?

02:04:59.660 Yeah.

02:04:59.820 Is that the Bezos one?

02:05:00.700 I think it is.

02:05:01.240 Yeah.

02:05:01.300 I don't know.

02:05:01.600 I get mixed up with all these billionaires with their rockets now.

02:05:06.560 Why is he going to Mars?

02:05:07.620 He's going to Mars too?

02:05:08.560 I mean, they should probably, you know, one of them should say, I'm going that way.

02:05:11.740 Do you want to come?

02:05:12.660 You know what I mean?

02:05:13.220 I got room.

02:05:14.100 I got room.

02:05:15.140 Why don't we put some of your stuff on?

02:05:16.420 Well, I think there's a competition standpoint there.

02:05:19.380 That's a bit of an issue.

02:05:20.680 Bezos, really?

02:05:22.360 Really?

02:05:22.900 Or did you just want a phallic shaped, you know, my rocket's bigger than your rocket kind

02:05:29.140 of thing?

02:05:29.520 Is that, I mean, I believe Elon actually wants to go.

02:05:33.020 I don't think Bezos was up, you know, in his teen years going, someday I'm going to build

02:05:38.640 a rocket to Mars, you know?

02:05:41.960 Can I ask you a quick Bezos related question?

02:05:44.400 Uh-huh.

02:05:45.000 Do you buy, buying or selling, buying or selling that the Washington Post might be turning towards

02:05:56.580 sanity under Bezos's leadership?

02:05:58.860 No, what will happen is it will turn like the Wall Street Journal.

02:06:04.820 The Wall Street Journal is really, it's op-ed page, very, very conservative.

02:06:09.480 It's the most liberal reporting in New York.

02:06:12.680 It's worse than the New York Times.

02:06:15.360 So, I mean.

02:06:16.440 Even that would be an improvement to where the Washington Post has been.

02:06:20.440 Yeah, Washington Post has had some amazing op-eds.

02:06:24.140 You're like, wait, what?

02:06:25.180 They've hired some really good people recently.

02:06:27.400 That'd be nice.

02:06:27.980 That actually believe in free markets.

02:06:30.280 I would love, I would just love to have balance.

02:06:34.060 Like, I don't expect Barry Weiss to make, you know, CBS into the blaze.

02:06:39.480 Right.

02:06:40.000 You know, I don't think so.

02:06:42.480 I just would like a fair shake.

02:06:45.440 I would just like both sides.

02:06:46.880 That's all I want from news agencies.

02:06:49.060 Both sides.

02:06:50.420 Say both.

02:06:51.600 And just trying to be fair.

02:06:52.920 Try.

02:06:53.400 Like, there was a headline.

02:06:54.160 Did I tell you this headline yesterday from the New York Times on the Epstein thing?

02:06:58.420 And it was, after their friendship broke up, I'm paraphrasing, Epstein believed he had

02:07:07.740 the evidence to, quote, take Trump down, end quote.

02:07:11.580 Now, if you were to read that, what would you think?

02:07:15.820 You'd think.

02:07:16.180 Like, you'd immediately think, oh my gosh, well, he had sex with kids and he's got this

02:07:20.680 evidence on him.

02:07:21.980 When you read the story, not in even some versions of the sub headline, you had to read it, get

02:07:29.060 into the story to find out.

02:07:30.040 They're talking about his, he believed you could take him down because of his business

02:07:32.800 interests.

02:07:34.180 Unbelievable.

02:07:34.960 Nothing to do with the sex scandal stuff at all.

02:07:37.140 Latest, too, is that when he said, you know, the dogs, it's not barking.

02:07:41.100 The latest is now that, no, no, that's, he thought, he was thinking that, I think Trump

02:07:48.120 is the guy who turned me in on this.

02:07:50.480 Did you know that?

02:07:51.800 I mean, it's incredible how dishonest they are.

02:07:55.820 So, I don't have a lot of faith in the Washington Post or CBS, but I have hope.

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