Hamas’ REAL Goal on Oct. 7 | Guests: Dinesh D'Souza & Buck Sexton | 10⧸7⧸25
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Hello, America. Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program. We are so glad that you are you're here. Thank you
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so much for joining us today. I've got a lot on my plate today. It is October 7th. We're going to
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You know, what sets America apart from really, I shouldn't say America, what sets the West apart
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from the rest of the world is we don't like death cults. And it comes from the Bible. Choose life.
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As they're going into the promised land, choose life.
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That's what sets us apart. That's what has defined us. We choose to heal our enemies.
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We don't ever leave somebody behind on our battlefields because choosing life is our highest
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value. But I don't know if that's, I don't know if we're still those people anymore. And if you lose
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that one thing, that life is sacred, then you've lost the West. Because you have no, that is the
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So let me start with a simple definition so we don't get lost in labels. Because I want to talk,
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I believe we are dealing with a death cult. And in social science terms, that means any movement
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that one, sanctifies violence or death as a legitimate political tool, and two, celebrates
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the destruction of perceived enemies, and three, disciplines members to accept moral blind spots
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because the end is framed as absolute and transcendent. That's the dictionary definition.
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And it's not rhetorical flair. It's transcendent.
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It's a pattern. Dehumanize the other. Normalize harm. Close off any kind of descent and reward those
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who cross the moral line. Have you seen that? How do you spot it? Well, death cults first glorify
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killing or harm. You see public celebrations of enemy slaughter, not just private outrage,
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but public celebrations. So let me show you a few of these. Let's start with October 7th.
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October 7th, 2023, Hamas attacks and kills roughly 1,200 Israelis. There are reports, and I've actually
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seen the footage of people in Gaza, you have too, celebrating in the streets, taking dead bodies,
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dragging them in the streets, and beating them. Do you want to live in a society like that?
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I don't. Now that moment is now a public fact, and it's in the historic record of that war.
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When Hamas went in and they killed women, men, and babies, raped women while torturing them
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and killing them, setting babies on fire, we all saw this and stood arm in arm against it.
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When we heard the phone call from the one kid, the Hamas guy, who went in and was killing women and
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children, and then was so proud of it, he called his mother. Do you remember this?
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Hi, dad. I'm talking to you from Israel. What's up, dad? You're going to see I killed them with my
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own hands. Your son in Israel. Dad, may God protect you. I'm talking to you from a Jewish woman's house.
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I killed her. I killed her with my own hands. I killed 10 with my own hands. Dad, 10 with my own
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hands. Look at the WhatsApp app. You'll see how many I killed. I'm calling you on WhatsApp.
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Dad, I'm in Israel. Dad, I killed 10. 10. 10 with my own hands. Their blood is on my hands. Put mom on
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the phone. Mom says, oh, my son. God bless you. I killed 10 with my own hands, mom.
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Mom. OK, there is no there is no middle ground on that. That is either absolutely right or horrifically
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wrong. Choose life. Two years ago, on October 7th, we said that's horrific.
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Now. Things have changed. And let me just say this. You don't have to believe the Israelis are
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right in the way they're handling this. OK, you can say I disagree with the Israelis and the way
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they're handling it. I think they're doing really horrible things. OK, you could say that. But what's
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happening is people are starting to say that as well as that's why I'm with Hamas.
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Wait a minute. You can say both sides are bad, but that's not what's happening.
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The more the Israelis try to stop the legitimate death cult that is Hamas, the more the love for
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Hamas seems to grow. You know, you can be on the side of life and against both sides in this
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conflict, but that's not happening. The ends justify the means, it seems. Hamas, because we don't like
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Israelis, Hamas was justified in setting babies on fire. That's a death cult.
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If you are now finding yourself in that position where you're finding more in common with Hamas,
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not the cause, Hamas, the taking of hostages, and you're excusing any of that, you're in a death
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cult. Because that's what Hamas is. Death cults reward glee at an opponent's death. Now let's look at
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that. Let's just look at what's happening in our country. We've seen the social media celebrations.
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That came from Israel. Called from Israel to Gaza. So now we've heard that and we find that horrific.
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What is the difference between that and this with Charlie Kirk?
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There are a lot of people that are like, no matter what side of politics you're on, you should never
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celebrate something bad happening to someone. I, on the other hand, do cheer when bad things happen to bad people.
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Ritual celebration of death. That is a cultural marker.
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Death cults also tolerate or excuse violent rhetoric from authorities.
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Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, yeah
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It is October 7th, and it's appropriate to have Dinesh D'Souza on today.
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It's really convincing that maybe we are at the beginning of those days of the end of days, if you will.
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I watched it, I think I watched it maybe 8 or 9 o'clock at night.
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And to go back to the scriptures, you go, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
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And we're going to talk to Dinesh D'Souza here in 60 seconds.
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I watched your film last week, and I got to tell you, it's frightening and really powerful.
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Well, we begin, Glenn, as you know, with putting kind of the viewer on a motorcycle with a GoPro,
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The Israel government, I think, was reluctant to show it, except to a handful of journalists.
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But it opens my film, and it has a bit of a graphic warning, but it's 10 minutes of putting you right on the scene of October 7, two years ago.
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And the film kind of takes off from there to give you the widest significance.
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It engages politics, but history, archaeology, and even, as you mentioned, a hint of biblical prophecy,
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so that the political is wedded to the moral and the spiritual.
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Could the fate of the world, of humanity itself, be somehow tied to this place?
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So, what if there was going to be a resurrection of another people, an enemy people of Israel?
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The Bible speaks about this whole war as a dragon representing the enemy, attacking a woman representing Israel.
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The civilian deaths on both sides represent victories on the part of the dragon.
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They mastered everything within their ability to maximize the civilian casualty.
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We came back to a land that was largely barren and empty, and we brought it back to life, and we're going to keep it.
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The devil hates the Jewish people because they represent the existence of God.
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Because without that Jewish foundation, there is no Christianity.
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So, let us go to the dragon's prophecy here for a second.
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Glenn, in the book of Revelation 12, there is a depiction of a dragon representing the devil going to war against a woman representing Israel,
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and the woman is pregnant representing the Messiah.
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It's a confirmation of what people sometimes say, that underneath our political fights, there is a spiritual war.
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And the answer is, this is a war that has been raging between sort of God and the devil from the very beginning of time.
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And a provocative idea in the film is that the devil cannot overthrow God, and so the devil tries to find out, what is it that God cares about?
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So, in Genesis 1, for example, why does the serpent target Adam and Eve?
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Adam and Eve have done nothing to the devil, but the devil goes, I want to ruin them because this is God's cherished creation.
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If I can ruin them, I get my revenge against God.
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And I think for the same reason, the devil targets the Jews and the Christians.
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The Jews, because they are the original chosen people, and so the devil's agenda is really simple.
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Drive them out of their ancestral homeland, from the river to the sea, and also put a big Islamic victory arch right on top of their holiest site,
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And then, of course, the Christians are, the Bible itself refers to Christians as, like, spiritual Israelites.
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I will persecute and harass and destroy the Christians no less than the Jews.
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And look, this is not just sort of idle biblical speculation.
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You can see this happening right in front of us in the world today.
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Talk to me about the meaning of the word Hamas, Palestinians, where that came from.
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Yeah, this is the genius of Jonathan Cahn in his book, The Dragon's Prophecy.
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He points out that Hamas in Arabic means something like force or strength.
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But in Hebrew, interestingly, the word means violence and destruction.
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And if you read the Bible in Hebrew, it literally says things like,
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Lord, save me from the men of Hamas, or Hamas dwells in the dark places of the earth.
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Not only that, Glenn, but the four colors of the apocalypse mentioned in the book of Revelation,
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you know, which reflects famine and death and destruction, the white horse, the black horse,
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And as John points out, he goes, just take a look at the Palestinian flag.
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It's made up of four colors, basically white for the white horse, red for the red horse,
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black for the black horse, green for the green horse.
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And all of this, I think, you know, if there's a single connection, you can be like,
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But there are so many of these connections out in the film that ultimately it's almost
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like you have to sort of, you have to step back and reconsider if you are even understanding
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what's happening in front of you in the widest and sort of deepest possible light.
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I have to tell you, I don't know about, you know, I haven't studied this, you know, enough.
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I just watched the movie once and it's worth watching, but you will go back to scriptures
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It is worth pondering because it shows you where we might be right now and the battle
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that we're preparing for, which is a really terrifying thing, but I'd rather know it so
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Um, you also, you know, did a lot of archeological stuff.
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What, what stood out to you in the research that you did?
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What stood out to me, Glenn, is this for 2000 years and even more, there are figures that
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appear in the Bible, Pontius Pilate, Isaiah, Jeremiah, going further back, King David, we're
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And even 30 or 40 years ago, if you said, prove to me that these figures are real, prove to
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me outside the Bible using historical or archeological evidence, you couldn't do it.
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Remarkably, just in the last few decades, there are inscriptions and stones and clay seals
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coming out of the ground that are showing that these biblical figures are real.
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The Bible is an account of real people and true events.
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So you can dispute the theology of the Bible, you can question the miracles, but the historicity
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And it's almost as if as the world has become more secular and pulled away from God, God is
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speaking back, but not in the thunderous language of Genesis 1, you know, in the beginning, God
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created the heavens and the earth, but rather in the kind of prosaic language of science and
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Yeah, it was really amazing because, you know, you don't think we live in our time.
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And so you don't think about the times that have come.
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And now we're finding all of the archeological evidence and we just, at least I did, I just
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accepted that, yeah, these, the big things we knew existed.
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It's now just being proven now because of what we're finding in archeological digs.
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Not only that, but for centuries, really for two centuries, going back to the Enlightenment,
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you'd have these armchair critics who would read the Bible and say, well, you know, it
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looks like, looks to me like this was written several hundred years later.
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But now we know that that can't be the case because there are minor, minor figures in the
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Bible, you know, the royal steward of King Josiah in like the sixth or seventh century
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And suddenly a seal comes out of the ground in Jerusalem and there is his name on the
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Now, nobody 300 years later, this is like asking for the names of interns who work for
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Donald Trump, you know, hundreds of years from now, who would possibly know their names
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So this is why the Bible is being affirmed, even at the level of excruciating detail.
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The fact that everybody said Pontius Pilate didn't exist and the, the stare that, that has
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his name carved into it 2000 years ago that was discovered.
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It's those things that you're like, I mean, how do you deny some of this stuff now?
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And then, you know, we are in Jerusalem and we go up to this place called Shiloh in the
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middle part of Israel and we find these remarkable red heifers.
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Now I've been reading a book about the red heifers.
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This has to do with the fact that in the end times, the, um, the dome of the rock will
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come down, the Jewish temple, the Solomonic temple will be rebuilt.
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And some of the rabbis are actually preparing for temple services, which involve the ashes
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So all of this isn't just like Bible, you know, interpretation.
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You have people in Jerusalem and in Israel actually preparing for this in a practical
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And in fact, one of the things that they said, let me take a break and then have you come
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One of the things that, um, we said, cause we were talking about the red heifers two
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years ago, um, and they were talking about maybe making, you know, red heifer into ashes
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And, um, Hamas said at the time, that's one of the reasons why they, they went after on
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And you go into that and, uh, uh, and what they really call October 7th and what that means
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we'll, we'll go come back with, uh, Dinesh here in just a second.
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So, tell me about the red heifer and what Hamas said about it and what they call October
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So, the red heifers goes back to the time of Moses and Aaron.
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Apparently, red heifers were sacrificed in the ancient tabernacle, which preceded the
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So, it evidently is biblically very significant when the 10th red heifer is going to be sacrificed.
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So, in any event, apparently these red heifers were flown on American airlines in the cargo
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They're extremely rare because they have to fulfill all these biblical criteria.
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But in any event, Hamas specifically referred to the red heifers and referred to the rebuilding
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And also, very interestingly, in the actual dragon's prophecy in the book of Revelation,
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the Bible describes the dragon unleashing a flood to sort of drown and swallow up the woman.
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It's part of his sort of wartime strategy against the woman.
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And amazingly, when Hamas had to give a name to October 7th, they call it Operation Tufan.
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And the word Tufan means, you guessed it, flood.
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It's not just a matter of looking forward, but I think part of what Jonathan Cahn does is
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he looks backward and he shows the way in which the battle between Israel and Hamas is an eerie
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recreation of battles between the ancient Israelites and their classic enemies called the Philistines.
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Not just that the name Philistine and the name Palestine is the same, which it is,
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And if I can give the example of Samson, who is a biblical hero, he represents the strength of Israel.
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The Philistines, they blind him in much the same way Israel was blinded on October 7th.
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The Philistines controlled what we now call the Gaza Strip.
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And the Bible says the people of Gaza demanded,
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hostages were stripped to the waist, paraded out,
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and the people of Gaza are chanting and celebrating Allahu Akbar.
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And Jonathan Cahn makes the very startling observation in the film that
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Samson, 3,000 years ago, was kind of the first hostage of Gaza.
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I want to ask you, I want to switch topics here a bit.
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And, you know, there is a thing that is happening in churches and on the right now
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that, you know, are starting to deny that Jesus was a Jew.
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They're cutting, they're saying that Judaism isn't a real religion.
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And Hebrew scriptures were not the only thing that Jesus knew.
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seem to care about the connection between the Jews and the Christians.
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And that just seems really bad and very dangerous.
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It is being presented as a kind of internecine debate
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between covenant theology and replacement theology.
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It is, I think, an attempt to replace Christianity itself.
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And what I mean by that is that in Christianity,
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I'm talking about the mainstream Christianity shared across denominations
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The very simple idea is that God made very specific promises to Abraham.
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The old covenant was fulfilled in the new covenant.
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Jesus himself, of course, was a Jew, preached in synagogues, preached out of the Torah.
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And by the way, there was an early meeting between the Apostle Paul and the rest of the Apostles.
01:05:08.580
And they had an argument about to what degree the Gentiles or the new Christians
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And the answer was very simple and was settled in the book of Acts.
01:05:18.920
Basically, it was decided that the Gentiles don't have to keep the Sabbath.
01:05:25.360
They don't have to follow some of the Jewish dietary rituals.
01:05:44.000
So imagine kicking all that out from under you.
01:05:48.800
You've basically knocked out the foundation of Christianity itself.
01:05:52.220
So I'm quite disturbed, both at a political and a theological level,
01:06:00.200
not just of political reality, but of Christianity itself.
01:06:03.140
I have to tell you, what you just said is so critical.
01:06:09.520
They got rid of the Old Testament, did everything they could to it.
01:06:12.760
And before you knew it, churches had replaced the crucifix on the altar with a picture of Hitler.
01:06:19.820
That's what happens when you start dismantling all of this stuff.
01:06:30.320
but I don't think anybody has done it justice like you did in this film,
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the connection between Hamas, Hezbollah, and Adolf Hitler.
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And then on the 9th, the very next day, it's in streaming and DVD.
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and also that's a place to sign up for streaming and DVDs,
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We have the guy who's running for AG in Virginia next,
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but a lack of good nutrition makes it happen faster, unfortunately.
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a nutritional supplement that's packed with vitamins,
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and you watch what happens over the next few weeks
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people only change their political point of view
01:10:30.760
The guy he's running against is Jason Millares,
01:10:52.400
Why is it bad to have him as the attorney general,
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whether they're Republican, Democrat, or independent.
01:11:11.580
I can't imagine somebody who's applying for this job
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that had recently passed away at their funeral.
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and obviously said he wanted to put two bullets
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At the time that these text messages were sent,
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that he may disagree with somebody politically,
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my opponent has never actually met with victims.
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He wants to be the top prosecutor in the state.
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He's never been a prosecutor a day in his life.
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It's now no longer right versus left in Virginia.
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He is part of the Clay, Travis, and Buck Sexton show, which follows this on the premier radio networks.
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He was just in Taiwan, and he sat down with everybody in Taiwan,
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and he is quite concerned that China is preparing for an invasion of Taiwan.
01:28:44.180
We'll talk to him about that coming up in just a second.
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Oh, Glenn, it was incredible, but it was sobering.
01:30:12.140
I don't know if you knew, Glenn, that you were going to be training the next generation of leadership for the Trump administration when you started the blaze.
01:30:20.600
But if you start to look around at the org chart, all of...
01:30:27.440
Yeah, the young cubs that you brought in when you started the blaze are kind of running the government.
01:30:35.200
I don't know if that's a good thing, but it is.
01:30:39.100
Well, I think it's definitely better than the old team.
01:30:43.100
So, look, the situation in Taiwan has never been more serious, and I thought that you, in particular, Glenn, would just seize upon the reality here of a China that is arming up.
01:30:56.380
And I know people have seen these stories for years about problems in the South China Sea or problems in the Strait of Taiwan.
01:31:03.780
But the cutoff in contact that has occurred in the last few years, the cutoff in trade and travel between Taiwan and China, the arming up of China that's going on, Taiwan is gearing up itself for the defense of its island.
01:31:19.420
And I met with the president, the vice president, their national security council, spoke to TSMC, which is a very important Taiwan semiconductor manufacturing company, critical technology for the entire world.
01:31:31.760
I mean, they make 90 percent of the high-end chips that we need for our phones, for our cars, and certainly for the AI future that we're entering right now.
01:31:40.580
And, Glenn, the Chinese are getting ready for this, and Xi Jinping has said it's coming in 2027, and Taiwan is saying, you guys got to give us the tools, and we'll defend ourselves.
01:31:56.220
It's remarkable to see, I think, the change in their society.
01:32:00.140
And they want to be very clear about this, meaning the government.
01:32:03.700
And, look, part of why I think they wanted me to come over and speak to everybody is they realize that not only is speaking to CNN International not going to get the decision-makers in this administration interested.
01:32:18.760
So they want people like you and me and our friend Sean Hannity and others to look at this issue, understand it, and present it to the American people because it affects us in very real ways.
01:32:31.660
The problem right now is our manufacturing capacity for the weapons that they want to buy, and they're very clear about this.
01:32:38.760
They want to buy them, they're not asking for any handouts, is strained in large part because of Ukraine.
01:32:44.600
So you're starting to see that our military-industrial capacity for just providing the tools to allies, the weapons to allies they need to defend themselves is already at a bit of a breaking point.
01:32:56.060
And China knows that, and they are ramping up their shipbuilding, their missile building, everything at a capacity that has honestly never been seen before.
01:33:05.100
So I have talked to several people about Taiwan.
01:33:09.060
We don't have the supply chain to actually go in and fight a war in defense of Taiwan.
01:33:17.740
I'm very concerned about what's happening in South Korea.
01:33:28.400
They're arresting pastors and everything else there.
01:33:33.060
No, I was going to say, this is the ballpark of China.
01:33:35.780
China is not in danger of invasion or military incursion from anybody else.
01:33:41.540
So the breakneck speed at which they are building out their military, and I mean even in the last few years.
01:33:47.660
I mean this is relative even to what we've seen in China in the past.
01:33:51.380
This is truly unprecedented, and they're doing this for purpose, and the purpose is obviously an invasion of Taiwan in the next few years.
01:34:03.340
But also beyond that to project beyond the first into the second island chain, and they want to dominate the Pacific Ocean.
01:34:12.320
I mean this is all part of the long-term strategy, and they're playing this thing out.
01:34:18.900
He's got his negotiation, trade negotiation going on with Taiwan.
01:34:21.720
He's got big negotiations that are going to be happening with China.
01:34:24.540
But I just think the American people should be aware of what a massive – we're talking about trillions of dollars of wealth that would evaporate from markets overnight at the beginning of an invasion of Taiwan.
01:34:37.920
Never mind that China would be able to seize the most sensitive and important technology in the world right now, which is advanced semiconductor manufacturing done by TSMC, as I mentioned, and others.
01:34:49.900
I hope that we actually have convinced Taiwan or we have a plan of destroying those labs should there be an invasion of Taiwan.
01:35:02.780
We cannot let those chip manufacturers fall into the hands of China.
01:35:09.660
This is absolutely correct, and it's a point that was hit on over and over, which is if you think that the Chinese are going to be dominating us
01:35:18.480
based on military output and capacity in that theater of operations, just wait until they control the chips.
01:35:26.560
And this is, again – I feel like it's very important to separate this from Ukraine, which is more of a – it's more of an argument about sovereignty and human rights and things like that.
01:35:36.760
In this case, everything that you rely on in your life that is high-tech, all the chips in your car, China would control them and control the supply of them.
01:35:45.300
We simply cannot allow them to have that level of influence over global markets.
01:35:51.940
So the best option here, as I see it, is prevent a conflict by doing everything possible to arm up the Taiwanese.
01:35:58.240
They have an all-of-the-above defense initiative, a sort of deep societal resilience program, Glenn, where they're saying everyone is going to have to get in on this.
01:36:07.240
Now, I did talk to them about maybe a little 2A, like how about you guys arm up your population?
01:36:13.840
I think that's a mistake, but certainly in terms of keeping the power on military and medical assistance, things of that nature,
01:36:22.580
they're telling their civilian population to gear up for this.
01:36:25.280
So this is something that's going to get only hotter in time.
01:36:28.140
I think the flashpoint is reaching the unavoidable reality that the status quo is going to be shaken up here.
01:36:37.840
And I know the Trump administration is looking closely at it, but I want everyone else to be paying attention to what's going on in this part of the world
01:36:43.820
because it is the single area where we could have the biggest military flash.
01:36:52.700
South Koreans are pretty armed up for that, I've got to say, and we already have a base there.
01:36:56.220
Taiwan, I think, is a place where China views it as ripe for the taking increasingly, and we've got to stop that.
01:37:07.460
Somebody said to me, I got a briefing on Taiwan about two years ago, and they said,
01:37:14.460
China can't take Taiwan yet because they don't have the landing craft.
01:37:19.120
It's going to take them about three years before they're really ready to go.
01:37:24.080
I don't know if that timeline still holds, but I wonder, I think when we see a war in Taiwan,
01:37:33.980
it is not going to be like a war that we have ever seen before.
01:37:41.240
You're going to be overwhelmed with drones that you would just never be able to defend against.
01:37:46.480
Well, this is where what we've seen, and again, this is a big part of my discussions over there and in the interviews that I did,
01:37:53.960
Ukraine is really a proving ground for this new form of warfare.
01:37:58.660
Whatever one thinks about that situation politically, the pace of drone innovation that is going on in that country is remarkable.
01:38:08.940
It's incredible to see that they're able to do this as quickly as they are, and really what we're going to see, Glenn,
01:38:16.720
is drones and AI and innovation are going to be a much bigger part of military readiness and military capability than we've ever seen before.
01:38:24.960
I actually toured a boat manufacturer where, guess what, they're doing autonomous suicide speedboats that explode, essentially.
01:38:37.900
And this is increasingly what the future is going to look like in terms of defense capability over there.
01:38:43.200
So AI, drones, tech, it's going to be a whole different kind of war if this war kicks off.
01:38:49.500
And if they take Taiwan, then they have the chips that we need to be able to defend ourselves.
01:38:57.180
Is there any work being done in a realistic way to get that kind of clean room and ability over here in the United States so we can...
01:39:12.500
This is where Trump and his team are absolutely on it.
01:39:16.380
They're pushing TSMC, which is a company I keep bringing up.
01:39:23.100
It's one of the 10 most valuable companies in the world based out of Taiwan,
01:39:26.240
and they're the ones that make 50% of global chips, 90% of the high-end chips.
01:39:31.340
They've opened a huge facility in Arizona, and I think they're getting close to being able to do 30% of their manufacturing capacity in Arizona,
01:39:42.320
But this kind of stuff is, I mean, Glenn, the level of sophistication that this technology,
01:39:48.920
it's like one ten-thousandth of a human hair in width, some of the things that they're doing on these chips.
01:39:56.880
It's hard to understand if you're not in that industry with things they're doing.
01:40:01.520
So you can't, you know, it's not like you get a U-Haul, you pack it up, and you say, let's set up next door.
01:40:06.000
So there is this initiative to do more of it here stateside, but you've also got to see it from their perspective.
01:40:12.520
They realize, hey, this is kind of our golden goose in all respects.
01:40:16.440
It's what's made this country economically such a force, but it also means that we cannot ignore,
01:40:22.920
and to be clear, the Trump administration is not ignoring it, but we cannot ignore what happens there,
01:40:27.820
because if there is an invasion of Taiwan, everybody, you know, you want to talk your 401k, your markets,
01:40:33.840
and also all the supply chain you rely on, it is in a crisis mode immediately.
01:40:40.300
Buck, how far away do you think we are from a crisis like this should it happen?
01:40:46.780
For me, the big question is, will Xi wait until post-Trump presidency?
01:40:52.240
And I think that a lot of people believe, so would Xi Jinping, the premier of China, hold off?
01:40:57.700
I tend to think that he's not going to want to tangle with Trump on this one.
01:41:02.460
I think he's savvy enough to know that that's probably a bad idea.
01:41:08.600
One is, well, I don't think he's going to wait so that then he can have, let's say, a J.D. Vance,
01:41:17.920
So there's a bit of a gamble or a calculation there.
01:41:20.660
And then also, this is, it reminds me, Glenn, of the Tom Clancy book, A Debt of Honor.
01:41:27.220
I was a big Tom Clancy guy back in the day, and it's probably why, yeah, he's amazing.
01:41:31.060
It's probably why I joined the CIA, because there are the Tom Clancy books.
01:41:34.120
And in Debt of Honor, the Japanese, actually, a nationalist Japanese, ultra-nationalist regime,
01:41:41.960
And they do it so quickly that their pitch is, hey, guys, I know you're upset about this,
01:41:46.500
but we can just stop right now and we'll make it up to you.
01:41:50.520
And, you know, no big deal with kind of the way that it's phrased in the book.
01:41:55.220
I think that China is hoping that they can do a blitzkrieg where they get a surrender so quickly
01:42:00.920
and they're able to overrun Taiwan's defenses so rapidly that the U.S. isn't even able to respond
01:42:09.260
We still have the strategic ambiguity, and that's where the calculations get really, really challenging,
01:42:16.560
because the U.S. isn't repositioned to be able to deploy military force.
01:42:21.800
If Taiwan surrenders, that's probably ballgame.
01:42:28.780
You know what really concerns me is another COVID-style event.
01:42:33.260
Some big, could happen in our economy, could be a 2008 kind of crash.
01:42:37.860
Anything that takes the Americans' attention away from the world.
01:42:45.640
Remember those millions of people that were in the streets of Hong Kong?
01:42:49.180
Then COVID happened, and all of them were disappeared?
01:42:57.760
Yeah, well, Hong Kong is unfortunately viewed as a harbinger of things to come for Taiwan.
01:43:04.160
Hong Kong has been consumed by the communist beast.
01:43:08.860
I mean, the CCP has managed to break covenants, no surprise.
01:43:15.960
I actually had a sit-down with somebody who is the right-hand man to the publisher of Apple Daily,
01:43:28.760
He's been in prison for, I think, six years now.
01:43:34.360
And the way that people in Taiwan who have spent time in Hong Kong describe it is the eradication of hope.
01:43:48.640
I'd love to sit down and talk to you about South Korea,
01:43:51.240
because that same thing is happening in South Korea right now.
01:43:59.220
So thank you for bringing me up to speed on this.
01:44:05.800
And Glenn, I always appreciate you knowing that when there's a story I got to hit,
01:44:09.160
you're right there with me, and you support it.
01:44:12.580
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That's double, I believe, in the last 18 months.
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And Goldman Sachs came out today and said they're projecting $5,000 an ounce.
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I have said since 2008, you do not want to see what the world looks like at $5,000 an ounce.
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And I'm not seeing, I haven't seen a single story today on watching all of the, you know, cable news shows.
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A couple years ago, Glenn Beck and I were asked at an event when gold would break through $2,000 resistance.
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We said he thought it would soon, but you shouldn't want it to happen because of what it represented for the U.S. dollar and global financial order.
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And, you know, people haven't noticed really as well.
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We've had one of the worst runs for the dollar in decades over the past few months.
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But, I mean, things right now, this extra little spike, this push, you know, is happening because of the shutdown.
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People are losing confidence in our government that we can get it together.
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They are thinking if we do get it together, what we're going to do is we're just going to come back together.
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We have so many alarm bells going off, so many red alerts going off that I wish I could visually show you.
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There are too many things that are happening that are bone crushing.
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I feel impressed to say to you that it is important to remember that October 7th is Amazon Prime Day.
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You know, they might want to have picked another day.
01:50:59.260
It's like, hey, September 11th, you can get great specials and marshals all day.
01:51:09.340
Because I think for a few years after September 11th, I remember like no one would do anything on September 11th, especially something happy.
01:51:15.800
And then I think now, though, you know, movies come out, like there's no acknowledgement anymore.
01:51:26.780
I mean, it is an American event, by the way, of course.
01:51:29.520
It didn't happen in America, but American hostages and American citizens were murdered.
01:51:38.140
But, like the companies today, I've noticed October 7th, Prime Day.
01:51:42.300
I think it is October 7th and 8th, technically, for Prime Day.
01:51:53.100
It's like, new announcement, you know, coming soon.
01:52:04.840
Then there was the LeBron James announcement, part two.
01:52:09.900
So, like, he did, famously, as I know you'll remember, he announced he was going to the
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And it was this big, dramatic thing they put on ESPN.
01:52:19.640
He's like, I'm taking my talents to South Beach.
01:52:22.440
It was, you know, kind of a big deal at the time.
01:52:24.340
So, they had this big announcement, part two, coming October 7th.
01:52:37.020
He's partnering with Hennessy, an alcohol purveyor for some new LeBron alcohol.
01:52:55.180
And one of the biggest mistakes I think Israel made, and I understand why they did it, because
01:52:59.260
of the families and everybody was like, please, the families don't want this out.
01:53:08.700
It was 90 minutes, hour, hour and a half of all Hamas videos.
01:53:17.360
And I think everybody should have been, I think everybody, because if you, I mean, you
01:53:25.180
remember, you just didn't see it, but you remember what they did to people.
01:53:29.860
And my question is, and I started the show with this today, you don't have to like Israel.
01:53:34.980
You don't have to support Israel, but why are you suddenly supporting Hamas?
01:53:51.780
You don't side with Hamas, but that's what's happening.
01:53:57.640
Like, I think there's some, there's a whole Hamas, you know, part of Congress that is
01:54:05.440
But I think maybe less explicitly, you have a group of people that are, while not saying,
01:54:14.280
hey, I love, I heart October 7th, which by the way, I do believe some people in Congress
01:54:21.980
I do believe certain mayoral candidates in large cities do.
01:54:30.080
It was a four paragraph statement and a good half of one paragraph was very upset about
01:54:37.040
And then it was a bunch of stuff about how bad Jews were, which is a weird, it's a weird
01:54:40.680
way of phrasing an October 7th message, but whatever.
01:54:46.920
He would have been an excellent mayor of Nuremberg.
01:54:52.020
Anyway, so the incident with October 7th, as far as Hamas support, you have to understand
01:55:05.340
this event from Hamas's perspective on October 7th, two years ago.
01:55:10.680
Now, their goal was not to go and kill a bunch of Jews.
01:55:22.580
They enjoyed it, as we've heard on the phone calls earlier today.
01:55:25.840
Their goal, though, was not to kill a bunch of Jews.
01:55:28.480
It certainly was not to overtake Israel in some sort of, you almost have to call it a
01:55:35.600
coup, considering it's inside the country, but like some sort of military victory.
01:55:42.620
Their goal was to create an incident that was so terrible and so horrific that Israel
01:55:50.360
would have no choice but to do what they've done.
01:55:53.580
And then they knew that all of these countries, all of the media, all of these people around
01:56:03.100
And what countries like Britain and France and all these countries that have come to
01:56:10.060
and be like, we're now recognizing Palestinian statehood.
01:56:13.480
They're giving them exactly what their goal was on day one.
01:56:18.800
Now, their long-term goal, I suppose, is every Jew to be wiped off the face of the planet.
01:56:25.860
But they have made incredible progress to that goal, thanks to a bunch of these Western
01:56:34.260
countries and Western media and people like Greta Thunberg.
01:56:41.080
You know, it's not just, it's, I mean, I don't want to just say that it's people like that.
01:56:47.480
It is people who are in college and in the streets with the Palestinian flags being funded
01:56:53.880
by Hamas-loving organizations and knowing what they're saying.
01:56:59.160
River to the sea, that's why the blue stripe is on the Israeli flag at the top and the bottom
01:57:11.460
So if you want to wipe out Israel, that's what you mean by that.
01:57:14.940
And, you know, I just don't, you know, it's like, what would Jesus do?
01:57:19.960
Well, I don't know if Jesus would side with the way Israel was, you know, conducting this
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But I know he wouldn't have also been with Hamas, you know?
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So, yeah, I mean, it's like kind of like if you're trying to be a decent human being, you
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And how about hold the one side of this battle responsible for what they're doing?
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And so, by the way, a bunch of Arab countries that have jumped in here and said, yes, we
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Again, what people are saying, oh, Israel's not giving anything up.
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All these countries that used to attack them every three years, right?
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They're saying, come on in and oversee this area inside of our borders.
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And what Hamas needs to do is give up hostages.
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And yet, Israel is the one that won't end this war.
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Well, almost everything on the side of evil, I think, is just, I don't know how people don't
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It's funded by all the people who are funding all of these, you know, college Hamas supporting
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Last time they were there, they just turned around.
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Yeah, they come down, they broadcast that they're coming.
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Then, as of course is going to happen, Israel is going to stop them and take them in and
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put them on boats and hand them sandwiches like they did last time.
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And then they bring them in and they, and then Greta last time, you know, she made this
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And then she got sandwiches and got caught smiling on camera at the delicious looking
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So now this time she pre-recorded a video saying she had been taken hostage before she left
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on the flotilla and then released it and said, if you are seeing this video, I've been taken
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They process them and then they throw them on a plane.
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They send them back to their countries and they're greeted as like heroes and liberators
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They accomplished nothing except to get people to talk about them.
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And you have to love how seamlessly Greta just was able to, I mean, I, I, I'm not a
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She was able to just absolutely like jump into the, get the spotlight on the climate
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And as soon as the, the, the, the energy ran out on that one, she's over to the, I don't
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I mean, she's really just like, she's hitting every left wing talking point.
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She will be a pro abortion person and that'll, she'll do that for a while and she'll skip
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on over to, I don't know, wasting your money on bridges to nothing.
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And really like, what's the shelf life of an activist?
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And she's like, oh, this cute little kid skips school.
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But this cute little kid skips school for the climate, which, by the way, I can't remember.
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So now we're out of the June crisis, apparently, which I know they've tried to solve that one
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We should take some of the polar bears that we have so many of and send them to Israel.
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Now we have an overpopulation of polar bears, you know, because none of that was true either.
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I mean, we need as many blessings as we can get, and I think saving God's children,
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This Thursday, I am up in North Dakota, and I invite you to join me.
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I'm going to be filling in for Charlie Kirk, which is a really daunting task, but it is happening
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this Thursday, 6.30 at the University of North Dakota.
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Tickets can be found at theturningpointtour.com.
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It's a big, big stadium, so I hope people come.
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Maybe it would just be like a couple of people that are like, I don't, I mean, I don't even
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know who you are, and you know, so it would be a really, I could skate.
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But theturningpointtour.com, theturningpointtour.com, that is this Thursday, University of North Dakota.
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Then next week with Turning Point, it's Charlie Kirk's birthday, and I will be in Utah at the
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state capitol, where Turning Point is doing something for him at the state capitol, so I'll
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They're in the middle of doing a big turnout operation for this New Jersey election.
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I know, and it's interesting, they're, you know, using a lot of the same tactics they
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were able to use to make Pennsylvania a success in the presidential election, 2024.
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Obviously, Charlie not around anymore, but is planning.
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And a lot of incredible things that had already been utilized and developed and were in the
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middle of being developed, so I honestly think it's going to be a tough road in New
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Jersey, even though the polling's pretty, it's closer than you'd think it might be.
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But, you know, New Jersey's never a particularly friendly state for Republicans, but it'll be
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I kind of feel like Jay Jones might lose slash, you know, be stepped down in some way.
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Like, I feel like, I don't know that the gubernatorial race is going to turn out the
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I think, though, you know, that's a blue state, and I think we like to think of it
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as a purple state because what Youngkin's in, and it really, it's not a bright blue, it's
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not Rhode Island, it's not Vermont, but it is a light blue state.
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I think in times like this where, again, you know, while the president, I think, has
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done a lot of good things, he's not particularly popular with Democrats, as many people have
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And his, you know, favorability rating in states like Virginia is not particularly strong.
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I mean, I really think this election is a turning point for Virginia.
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I think if you choose death, which is what you'd be doing, if you turn out and you're like,
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no, I'm fine with people saying that about, you know, killing children, I don't know how
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I mean, it shows, I mean, you're taking one of the fundamental Western civilization cornerstones
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And we mentioned this briefly when we were talking to the candidate, but it was like,
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when you have a situation where the chief law enforcement officer, forget the violence
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part of it, just his philosophy of you must cause personal pain in somebody's life to
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They talk about Jim Comey being a problem, right?
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Like, what would this guy be with that power and that philosophy?