The Glenn Beck Program - 'Is this Still America？'

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00:00:06.460 Glenn Beck.

00:00:08.100 It's Pat and Stu and Jeffy for Glenn.

00:00:11.320 Triple eight.

00:00:14.060 727 Beck.

00:00:15.400 It's been a while, hasn't it?

00:00:16.180 It's been a while.

00:00:17.600 And with all these phone numbers to remember, I can't.

00:00:20.500 I'm just incapable of it now.

00:00:21.780 I'm too old, I think.

00:00:24.240 You mentioned on the little pre-show thing

00:00:27.740 that the civil asset forfeiture situation,

00:00:32.680 which has gotten so out of control in this country.

00:00:36.020 We've talked about people who have been pulled over in Texas

00:00:38.940 and they were on their way to buy a car

00:00:41.580 and they had, you know, 30-some thousand dollars with them

00:00:45.220 and the law enforcement saw it, found it, took it,

00:00:50.320 and they just lost it.

00:00:51.580 The guy with the pizza parlor

00:00:53.780 who took his money to the bank every day.

00:00:58.040 The cash that he made and took it from the till to the bank

00:01:01.440 and because he was told,

00:01:04.040 hey, if you deposit $10,000 in cash,

00:01:06.440 they're going to flag that

00:01:07.580 and they're going to, you know, look into you

00:01:09.880 because it might be a drug,

00:01:11.840 it might be some sort of drug deal

00:01:13.440 when you're depositing that kind of money.

00:01:15.220 So he always brought in under $10,000.

00:01:19.000 That got it flagged

00:01:20.520 and they took it from him.

00:01:21.400 They took it from him.

00:01:22.740 The guy at the airport

00:01:23.620 that had the receipt for the money from the bank

00:01:26.260 because they said, if you're going to travel,

00:01:28.200 make sure you have the receipts

00:01:29.380 and proof that it's yours.

00:01:31.140 Nope, we're taking that.

00:01:32.460 Yeah, in one case,

00:01:33.840 guy got pulled over, had $91,000.

00:01:37.320 I forget what he was going to do with it.

00:01:39.300 He was buying something too.

00:01:43.140 He was on his way to make some sort of purchase.

00:01:47.160 I'm trying to think

00:01:47.960 because I think I have the story here.

00:01:49.620 But $91,000

00:01:52.060 and they took it from him

00:01:53.100 and he didn't get it back.

00:01:54.140 I mean, who cares what he wanted to do with his money?

00:01:57.020 Well, that's the thing.

00:01:58.020 It's supposed to be America.

00:01:59.540 If he winds up doing something

00:02:01.720 with his money that's illegal,

00:02:03.500 that's the time you charge him with it.

00:02:05.720 Thank you.

00:02:06.060 You don't just charge him for it

00:02:07.600 assuming he's doing something illegal.

00:02:10.360 Well, if you've got evidence,

00:02:11.680 let's see it.

00:02:13.000 You know, charge him with a crime.

00:02:14.900 But they're not doing that.

00:02:16.060 And it's quite clearly the assumption of guilt

00:02:19.800 rather than the assumption of innocence,

00:02:21.180 which is what our entire system is built up on.

00:02:24.020 Exactly.

00:02:25.020 In 2016, there was a guy in Utah

00:02:27.480 who got pulled over by the Utah Highway Patrol

00:02:29.740 because he was following a vehicle too closely.

00:02:31.880 So he's following too closely.

00:02:33.880 They search his car

00:02:35.080 and he's got a bag in it

00:02:36.900 that has $500,000 in the bag.

00:02:40.660 They took it from him.

00:02:41.780 This was in 2016.

00:02:42.720 He still hasn't been charged with crime.

00:02:45.200 They don't have any evidence

00:02:46.440 that it was a drug deal.

00:02:48.560 But they took half a million dollars from him.

00:02:52.300 And he's been fighting ever since

00:02:53.560 to try to get it back.

00:02:54.500 He went all the way to the Utah Supreme Court

00:02:56.160 who just ruled

00:02:57.060 that they have to give it back to him.

00:02:59.000 Now, they still haven't.

00:03:00.600 They still haven't

00:03:01.320 because the feds and the state of Utah

00:03:03.700 are fighting over how to divide the money.

00:03:06.980 The federal government says,

00:03:08.140 it's ours, it's all ours.

00:03:09.500 And the state is trying to take some of it.

00:03:12.260 So, I mean, none of it is yours.

00:03:14.860 Give it back to the guy

00:03:16.420 or charge him with a crime.

00:03:18.180 Let's see the evidence.

00:03:19.240 And I'd be interested

00:03:19.960 what caused them to actually search the car

00:03:22.000 for driving too close on the ticket.

00:03:23.880 I would too.

00:03:24.180 Did you?

00:03:24.880 It didn't have that in the story.

00:03:29.440 You think if you're bringing around $500,000 in your car.

00:03:32.120 Oh, it says, okay.

00:03:33.080 A drug dog alerted authorities

00:03:35.860 to the presence of narcotics,

00:03:37.160 but none were found.

00:03:38.320 So there weren't any.

00:03:39.200 No, the money smelled like drugs.

00:03:41.220 That's what happens.

00:03:41.880 The dogs smell the money.

00:03:43.180 Okay.

00:03:43.440 And the drug dog thing,

00:03:44.360 it can potentially have some value.

00:03:46.480 But first of all,

00:03:47.160 a dog is not evidence, right?

00:03:49.440 Yeah.

00:03:49.940 I don't know about that.

00:03:50.940 In today's world, it is.

00:03:51.860 I know.

00:03:52.240 But what I'm saying is,

00:03:53.240 if you have,

00:03:54.240 it may give you the opportunity

00:03:55.620 to search for evidence.

00:03:58.360 And, you know,

00:03:58.800 there's a lot of stories out there

00:04:00.700 about how unreliable,

00:04:02.500 you know,

00:04:03.100 drug dogs are.

00:04:04.460 And they're, you know,

00:04:05.120 I mean.

00:04:05.380 They make mistakes.

00:04:06.100 They're not perfect.

00:04:06.680 It's not science, right?

00:04:10.040 It's just like, you know,

00:04:10.680 they might give you an indication

00:04:11.980 is about all it's worth.

00:04:13.360 And you're suspicious of somebody

00:04:15.240 who's carrying around $500,000.

00:04:17.500 Because who carries around $500,000?

00:04:20.660 Well, I don't know,

00:04:21.600 but he's an American.

00:04:23.160 So if he has $500,000

00:04:25.100 and you don't have any evidence

00:04:27.380 that he got it illegally.

00:04:29.420 Well, again,

00:04:30.180 the drug dog alerted them

00:04:32.300 that there was possible drugs.

00:04:34.660 But then there was no drugs.

00:04:36.060 Right.

00:04:36.580 So leave him alone,

00:04:38.160 give him back his money,

00:04:39.060 send him on his way.

00:04:39.980 How can it still be America

00:04:42.240 when you can just have

00:04:44.680 your property seized like that?

00:04:46.180 And there's plenty of departments.

00:04:47.260 That was the big fight

00:04:47.960 when the sheriffs went to D.C.

00:04:51.260 and talked to Trump, right?

00:04:52.500 They were all for that.

00:04:53.640 And because those departments are,

00:04:55.160 they're using the,

00:04:56.980 hey, we're stopping drugs

00:04:58.300 as a good benefit

00:05:00.020 to enhance income

00:05:01.360 for those departments.

00:05:02.320 And I'm sure it is.

00:05:03.200 But you better be

00:05:04.980 charging people with a crime

00:05:06.180 if you're going to take

00:05:06.760 their property.

00:05:07.480 They better have gotten it

00:05:09.100 illegally, whatever it is.

00:05:11.000 In too many cases,

00:05:12.400 you've just taken

00:05:13.660 law-abiding American citizens,

00:05:15.840 hard-earned,

00:05:16.660 in some cases,

00:05:18.020 life savings from them.

00:05:20.520 That's unbelievable to me.

00:05:22.100 And there are

00:05:23.020 a lot of law enforcement officials

00:05:24.980 who support this

00:05:26.820 really strongly.

00:05:27.620 And they say,

00:05:28.060 look, it makes it a lot easier

00:05:29.080 to get convictions.

00:05:30.000 Well, of course it does.

00:05:30.740 When you take everybody's stuff

00:05:33.420 and then you figure it out later,

00:05:37.480 you know, yeah,

00:05:37.860 it's going to be easier

00:05:38.800 to get convictions.

00:05:39.700 And sometimes those convictions

00:05:41.160 will be accurate.

00:05:42.020 However,

00:05:43.020 there is a presumption of innocence

00:05:44.480 in our society.

00:05:45.820 It's supposed to be that way.

00:05:47.620 And the idea that you can just

00:05:48.860 flip that upside down

00:05:50.300 and say,

00:05:50.800 well, we're going to take your stuff

00:05:51.860 until we figure it out

00:05:52.920 is completely wrong.

00:05:54.280 Yeah.

00:05:54.420 Completely wrong.

00:05:55.380 Yeah.

00:05:55.820 And then beyond that,

00:05:57.500 yeah,

00:05:57.740 to take pieces of it

00:05:59.180 because you think

00:05:59.840 you've gone through

00:06:00.420 some efforts

00:06:01.640 to check out the story?

00:06:03.140 Like, no,

00:06:03.740 you should be paying them.

00:06:05.200 I mean,

00:06:05.540 like,

00:06:05.720 it's closer to rational

00:06:07.140 for the state

00:06:08.480 to pay someone

00:06:09.740 where they have

00:06:11.180 taken them into custody

00:06:12.400 incorrectly

00:06:13.140 or have handled them

00:06:15.380 in some wrong way

00:06:16.240 than it is the other way around.

00:06:17.720 I mean,

00:06:17.940 the fact that you're

00:06:18.420 taking my money

00:06:19.080 and then you're going to

00:06:19.660 take a piece of it

00:06:20.500 for your trouble,

00:06:21.640 you didn't do me a service.

00:06:23.200 I just,

00:06:26.220 you know,

00:06:26.560 it's tough to say.

00:06:27.500 I know Jeff Sessions

00:06:28.220 is a big proponent

00:06:29.440 of this.

00:06:29.880 I know he is.

00:06:30.440 He's huge.

00:06:31.300 He's huge on this

00:06:32.320 and he pushes.

00:06:32.980 So is the president,

00:06:33.840 actually.

00:06:34.240 Yeah,

00:06:34.360 and the president

00:06:34.700 and this is one of the

00:06:35.480 very few things anymore

00:06:36.900 they actually agree on,

00:06:37.940 apparently.

00:06:39.000 But it's not,

00:06:40.400 it's just not right.

00:06:41.580 And it's,

00:06:41.960 you know,

00:06:42.280 while at times

00:06:43.660 it feels like

00:06:44.580 it would be the right thing

00:06:45.300 to do

00:06:45.580 and you might say to yourself,

00:06:47.240 well,

00:06:47.360 I would never bring around

00:06:48.420 $500,000 in cash.

00:06:51.340 Are we progressives?

00:06:52.480 Are we hardcore leftists

00:06:55.100 where we say

00:06:55.760 we get to carry that much around?

00:06:57.760 Are we the people

00:06:58.560 that get to say

00:06:59.500 to others

00:07:00.440 how much of their own money

00:07:02.200 they get to bring

00:07:02.940 in their own car?

00:07:04.080 Is that really the position

00:07:05.460 we want to take?

00:07:06.060 You have to ask yourself,

00:07:07.400 is it illegal

00:07:08.240 in the United States of America

00:07:09.560 to carry cash with you?

00:07:11.340 I mean,

00:07:11.580 if it is,

00:07:12.180 a large sum.

00:07:12.820 Show me the law.

00:07:13.820 Yeah.

00:07:14.220 Because it's not.

00:07:15.260 Right.

00:07:15.760 It's not illegal

00:07:16.620 to bring your money somewhere.

00:07:19.240 If I want to carry

00:07:21.320 $500 million

00:07:22.500 with me in cash,

00:07:23.740 if I have that kind of money,

00:07:25.120 I should be able to.

00:07:26.900 And if I get pulled over,

00:07:28.640 nobody should be able

00:07:29.560 to take it from me.

00:07:31.200 It's un-American

00:07:32.740 and it's unconstitutional.

00:07:35.220 And it's amazing

00:07:36.020 how many people,

00:07:36.940 how many politicians

00:07:37.860 are in favor of it.

00:07:39.460 Yeah.

00:07:39.880 You know,

00:07:40.720 and I'm surprised.

00:07:41.580 It's not supposed to be easy

00:07:43.140 to get convictions.

00:07:44.360 It's supposed to be hard.

00:07:45.560 There's a burden of proof.

00:07:46.900 Right.

00:07:47.060 Exactly.

00:07:47.440 It should be hard.

00:07:47.860 If you're going to take,

00:07:49.060 I mean,

00:07:49.340 think about what's happening here.

00:07:51.040 You're taking

00:07:52.000 constitutional rights

00:07:53.840 away from someone.

00:07:55.100 Right.

00:07:55.580 You're taking away

00:07:56.360 the right

00:07:57.620 to pursue happiness.

00:08:00.300 Right.

00:08:00.840 Yeah.

00:08:01.280 Because you're in prison.

00:08:03.080 You're taking away

00:08:03.980 your Second Amendment rights.

00:08:04.980 You'll probably never get them back

00:08:06.040 if you're a felon.

00:08:07.400 There are a lot of things

00:08:08.780 you're just ripping away.

00:08:10.500 The right of free association

00:08:11.780 you're taking away.

00:08:12.820 You're taking away

00:08:13.600 tons of things

00:08:14.660 that are constitutionally guaranteed

00:08:15.840 and, of course,

00:08:17.060 the Constitution

00:08:18.100 does not guarantee them

00:08:19.180 when you commit crimes.

00:08:20.120 When you commit crimes,

00:08:21.020 you lose those rights.

00:08:21.840 You lose voting rights.

00:08:23.280 Right.

00:08:23.580 Okay.

00:08:23.960 So these are really important issues

00:08:26.360 that should have

00:08:27.340 a very high standard

00:08:28.620 of proof.

00:08:30.180 They should have

00:08:31.260 a burden

00:08:32.020 that is difficult

00:08:32.840 for the state to accomplish.

00:08:34.120 We should be

00:08:35.260 letting go

00:08:36.280 some people

00:08:37.160 who are guilty.

00:08:38.740 We should be

00:08:40.060 every once in a while

00:08:41.380 erring on

00:08:42.300 that side

00:08:43.060 instead of the other.

00:08:43.720 And, of course,

00:08:45.740 we all want

00:08:46.320 someone who's guilty

00:08:47.340 to go to prison

00:08:48.260 and deal with

00:08:49.840 those consequences.

00:08:51.560 One of the most

00:08:52.940 important issues to me

00:08:54.700 is law enforcement.

00:08:56.500 And the police,

00:08:57.900 generally speaking,

00:08:58.780 do an incredible job.

00:09:00.000 I mean,

00:09:00.540 they're a hell of a lot better

00:09:01.400 for this society

00:09:02.260 than I am.

00:09:03.840 And certainly Jeffy,

00:09:04.920 obviously.

00:09:05.780 I mean,

00:09:06.240 that didn't need to be said.

00:09:07.240 No, of course.

00:09:07.840 I don't think.

00:09:08.860 But you can't.

00:09:10.980 Just because

00:09:11.940 we want

00:09:13.460 to take criminals

00:09:14.320 off the streets

00:09:14.980 does not mean

00:09:15.760 we can reverse

00:09:16.420 the Constitution

00:09:17.120 to make it easier.

00:09:18.520 We can't do that.

00:09:19.740 That's not something

00:09:20.440 that the reason

00:09:21.160 the Constitution

00:09:21.740 is there

00:09:22.480 is to protect

00:09:22.940 against these things.

00:09:24.560 And I'm surprised

00:09:25.160 there's not more

00:09:25.720 of an uprising on this

00:09:26.740 because it's one

00:09:27.740 of those issues

00:09:28.160 you'd think

00:09:28.960 both the left

00:09:30.220 and the right

00:09:30.640 could agree.

00:09:31.780 Private property

00:09:32.560 being taken

00:09:33.060 by the government

00:09:33.680 right in the

00:09:34.580 conservative wheelhouse.

00:09:36.400 Yeah.

00:09:36.520 What do you mean

00:09:37.100 you're taking my government

00:09:37.880 or my money

00:09:39.100 for nothing?

00:09:41.320 And the left

00:09:41.960 should agree

00:09:42.300 with this too.

00:09:43.420 They're always

00:09:43.940 complaining about

00:09:44.680 how the police

00:09:45.600 do things

00:09:46.280 that are wrong

00:09:48.480 and taking advantage

00:09:49.600 of people

00:09:50.280 who they shouldn't

00:09:51.000 take advantage of.

00:09:51.680 I mean,

00:09:51.800 there's stories

00:09:52.180 from Chicago

00:09:52.780 where people

00:09:53.780 and there's this

00:09:54.480 story about a guy

00:09:55.640 who was in Chicago

00:09:56.940 and he was

00:09:58.940 a car repair

00:10:01.660 technician.

00:10:02.580 Oh, right.

00:10:03.280 Yeah.

00:10:03.880 And so he took

00:10:04.860 his car

00:10:05.860 and gave

00:10:06.940 a ride

00:10:07.560 to someone

00:10:08.260 who brought

00:10:08.660 his car

00:10:08.980 into his shop.

00:10:10.260 You know,

00:10:10.520 he'd give rides

00:10:11.140 to people

00:10:11.440 to work

00:10:11.860 or wherever

00:10:12.160 they needed

00:10:12.480 to go

00:10:12.900 and while

00:10:14.080 he was on

00:10:14.640 the way

00:10:15.040 giving a ride

00:10:15.740 to someone

00:10:16.280 else,

00:10:17.280 the car

00:10:17.820 got pulled

00:10:18.180 over

00:10:18.440 for what

00:10:19.240 they said

00:10:19.580 was a broken

00:10:20.000 taillight

00:10:20.420 and he denies.

00:10:21.640 But when

00:10:21.920 they decided

00:10:22.960 to take

00:10:23.320 the people

00:10:23.620 out of the

00:10:23.960 car

00:10:24.120 and search

00:10:24.580 them,

00:10:24.800 when they

00:10:25.040 searched

00:10:25.300 them,

00:10:25.500 the passenger,

00:10:26.200 the customer

00:10:26.900 was found

00:10:27.700 with heroin.

00:10:29.120 Okay?

00:10:29.720 Now,

00:10:30.400 is he supposed

00:10:31.040 to frisk

00:10:32.080 every customer

00:10:32.820 that comes

00:10:33.220 into his

00:10:33.580 office?

00:10:34.240 The customer

00:10:34.980 is caught

00:10:35.380 with it.

00:10:35.880 They take

00:10:36.340 his car,

00:10:38.040 impound it,

00:10:38.980 and he's been

00:10:39.360 fighting for

00:10:39.860 years to get

00:10:40.700 it back.

00:10:41.180 Oh, my gosh.

00:10:41.680 Not to mention

00:10:42.240 all of his

00:10:42.900 tools,

00:10:43.540 thousands of

00:10:44.020 dollars of

00:10:44.360 tools were

00:10:44.820 in the trunk

00:10:45.180 of the car

00:10:45.560 and he couldn't

00:10:46.260 get those

00:10:46.560 back either.

00:10:47.380 So he did

00:10:47.920 nothing wrong,

00:10:48.540 was never

00:10:48.800 charged with

00:10:49.280 anything wrong,

00:10:49.700 was never

00:10:49.900 suspected of

00:10:50.560 doing anything

00:10:50.900 wrong.

00:10:51.500 And they took

00:10:52.200 his car away

00:10:52.780 for multiple

00:10:53.260 years.

00:10:53.920 I think it's

00:10:54.240 still ongoing,

00:10:54.880 at least last

00:10:55.260 I checked.

00:10:56.060 It's cost him

00:10:56.720 thousands and

00:10:57.780 thousands and

00:10:58.220 thousands more

00:10:59.300 than the car

00:11:00.300 was worth.

00:11:00.840 He's paid to

00:11:01.700 try to get the

00:11:02.060 car back because

00:11:02.980 all the tools

00:11:03.760 are on the back

00:11:04.760 of his car and

00:11:06.620 he can't do his

00:11:07.260 work without

00:11:08.000 them.

00:11:09.180 This is insanity.

00:11:10.280 And I guarantee

00:11:10.740 you they're

00:11:11.040 charging him to

00:11:11.700 keep the car.

00:11:12.760 Yeah, they are.

00:11:13.600 That's absolutely

00:11:14.500 they all do that.

00:11:15.860 He can't work.

00:11:18.380 That's perfect.

00:11:18.960 So he can't get

00:11:19.560 the money to pay

00:11:20.140 the impound fees

00:11:20.880 and then as he

00:11:22.760 doesn't pay the

00:11:23.460 impound fees,

00:11:24.600 they get fines

00:11:25.760 on top of the

00:11:26.360 fees and he has

00:11:28.160 to keep going

00:11:28.500 back to court

00:11:29.180 and hiring

00:11:29.620 lawyers.

00:11:30.520 I mean, it's

00:11:30.940 insanity and

00:11:31.960 there's no

00:11:32.720 reason for it.

00:11:34.080 I can't

00:11:35.400 understand why

00:11:36.220 people just

00:11:36.780 aren't up in

00:11:37.820 arms.

00:11:38.200 I know we

00:11:39.240 should be we

00:11:40.220 should be

00:11:40.520 protesting in the

00:11:41.340 streets on this

00:11:42.240 because it it's

00:11:44.480 one of the most

00:11:45.260 un-American things

00:11:46.520 I think I've ever

00:11:47.300 seen in my

00:11:47.740 lifetime.

00:11:48.960 This is this

00:11:51.740 is as bad as

00:11:53.100 it gets in a

00:11:54.160 free society

00:11:54.820 because you're

00:11:55.940 not free if

00:11:56.760 we're if we're

00:11:57.280 able to do

00:11:57.700 this.

00:11:58.680 There's there's

00:11:59.200 no proof.

00:11:59.820 There's no

00:12:00.140 evidence.

00:12:01.360 There's no due

00:12:02.100 process.

00:12:02.820 Well, it's

00:12:03.020 possible.

00:12:03.880 It's possible

00:12:04.720 you did

00:12:05.040 something wrong.

00:12:05.760 It is possible.

00:12:06.400 It is possible.

00:12:07.320 Right.

00:12:07.660 It is possible.

00:12:08.920 So lock him

00:12:10.160 up.

00:12:10.840 Safety first.

00:12:11.620 Better his

00:12:11.900 money.

00:12:12.540 Better safe

00:12:13.140 than sorry.

00:12:13.640 Throw him in

00:12:14.060 prison.

00:12:15.160 No, that's not

00:12:16.340 how this works.

00:12:17.660 All right.

00:12:18.400 It's Pat,

00:12:19.080 Stu and Jeffy

00:12:19.660 for Glenn on

00:12:20.160 the Glenn Beck

00:12:20.560 program.

00:12:20.940 It's Pat,

00:12:23.540 Stu and Jeffy

00:12:24.080 for Glenn

00:12:24.480 triple eight

00:12:26.620 seven to seven

00:12:27.240 back.

00:12:28.020 I've been talking

00:12:28.780 about this civil

00:12:30.180 asset forfeiture

00:12:31.280 situation, which

00:12:32.340 is as

00:12:35.440 unbelievable a

00:12:36.440 story as I think

00:12:37.380 we've had in the

00:12:38.040 last well ever

00:12:39.480 probably because

00:12:40.580 yeah, you can

00:12:41.860 just apparently

00:12:43.320 confiscate people's

00:12:44.560 life savings,

00:12:45.920 people's earnings,

00:12:47.040 even if it's not

00:12:47.980 their life savings.

00:12:48.680 You can just take

00:12:49.660 a large sum of

00:12:50.960 money from them

00:12:51.520 because they're

00:12:51.900 carrying it around

00:12:52.520 in cash and not

00:12:53.240 charge them with

00:12:53.800 anything in

00:12:54.840 America now.

00:12:55.620 That's that's a

00:12:56.600 pretty sweet deal

00:12:57.340 for the government.

00:12:58.420 That's nice.

00:12:59.540 Yeah.

00:12:59.940 You know, they're

00:13:00.380 looking for some

00:13:01.000 new vehicles.

00:13:02.960 They've got to pay

00:13:03.680 the rent to

00:13:04.340 and on the

00:13:05.320 federal buildings

00:13:06.200 and the local

00:13:06.680 municipalities are a

00:13:07.760 big fan of it as

00:13:08.560 well.

00:13:08.980 Big, big fans.

00:13:09.880 Yeah.

00:13:10.220 Yeah.

00:13:10.580 The story I was

00:13:10.920 talking about in

00:13:11.340 Chicago was the

00:13:12.180 Chicago, the city

00:13:13.120 of Chicago, not the

00:13:13.960 federal government.

00:13:15.020 But this is one of

00:13:16.680 the reasons why

00:13:17.420 this is such an

00:13:18.000 important issue to

00:13:19.000 get out in front of

00:13:19.940 is because these

00:13:21.380 cities and the

00:13:22.800 federal government

00:13:23.380 are all dealing

00:13:25.820 with situations where

00:13:26.740 they don't have

00:13:27.320 enough money anymore.

00:13:28.540 And you remember

00:13:29.260 how we used to

00:13:29.720 talk.

00:13:29.940 I mean, there's

00:13:30.320 some people I know

00:13:31.100 who've had dozens

00:13:32.080 of speeding tickets

00:13:33.080 and people there.

00:13:34.520 Some of those

00:13:35.080 people have

00:13:35.620 speculated that

00:13:36.500 perhaps the town is

00:13:37.580 just going for a

00:13:38.320 money grab from

00:13:39.060 people driving

00:13:39.580 through it.

00:13:40.060 I must say, I

00:13:40.960 I think I agree

00:13:42.380 with that.

00:13:42.980 Yeah.

00:13:43.760 That person happens

00:13:44.720 to be sitting right

00:13:45.420 here.

00:13:45.740 Pat Gray.

00:13:46.680 But I mean, that's

00:13:47.220 a common theory,

00:13:48.220 right?

00:13:48.480 You know, and

00:13:49.280 it's true.

00:13:50.120 But at least

00:13:50.900 there is a

00:13:52.240 violation there.

00:13:54.600 Right.

00:13:54.980 And that makes

00:13:55.360 sense.

00:13:55.880 Having exceeded

00:13:57.140 the posted speed

00:13:58.420 limit.

00:13:58.780 But when you

00:13:59.140 can't get enough

00:13:59.840 people to have

00:14:00.860 real violations,

00:14:02.080 you find others

00:14:03.520 because this is

00:14:04.500 about paying the

00:14:05.280 bills.

00:14:05.580 The impound stuff

00:14:06.280 in Chicago is all

00:14:07.340 about them paying

00:14:08.720 the bills.

00:14:09.340 They're getting

00:14:09.740 aggressive on going

00:14:11.180 after these people.

00:14:12.420 They have no

00:14:12.980 leniency, even when

00:14:14.200 the situation is

00:14:15.280 in because this guy's

00:14:16.400 had multiple

00:14:17.180 court rulings in

00:14:18.080 his favor, but

00:14:19.760 Chicago still won't

00:14:20.920 return his car or

00:14:22.060 his money.

00:14:22.820 It's just how can

00:14:23.880 that be?

00:14:24.420 Yeah.

00:14:25.120 And how do we

00:14:25.680 stop it?

00:14:26.860 How do you know,

00:14:27.640 you feel powerless

00:14:28.500 and you feel like,

00:14:30.160 well, call your

00:14:31.560 congressional

00:14:32.480 representatives.

00:14:34.360 OK, I've done

00:14:35.480 that a million

00:14:35.980 times.

00:14:36.480 And it's just to

00:14:37.820 the point where

00:14:38.240 we're so beaten

00:14:38.820 down, we don't

00:14:40.480 think anything we

00:14:41.140 do is going to

00:14:41.700 matter any anymore

00:14:42.740 anyway.

00:14:43.660 So it makes

00:14:45.000 it makes

00:14:45.940 effecting change

00:14:46.880 pretty difficult.

00:14:48.400 And and here we

00:14:49.000 are in a situation

00:14:49.660 where people are

00:14:50.200 just getting tens

00:14:51.360 of thousands, half

00:14:52.420 a million, millions.

00:14:53.860 I mean, they've

00:14:54.220 confiscated tens of

00:14:55.340 millions of dollars

00:14:56.100 in the last.

00:14:57.100 So, in fact, did I

00:14:58.320 read a figure about

00:14:59.560 two billion, I

00:15:00.660 believe?

00:15:00.980 But I think that

00:15:01.640 includes some who

00:15:02.980 are actually charged

00:15:04.080 with drug offenses.

00:15:05.400 Yeah, and look,

00:15:06.760 you know, police

00:15:07.940 are good people.

00:15:08.860 I think these are

00:15:10.120 outlier stories.

00:15:11.720 I think a lot of

00:15:12.180 times what they're

00:15:12.960 doing is pulling

00:15:15.040 over people and

00:15:15.980 they are drug

00:15:17.020 dealers and these

00:15:17.680 stories wind up

00:15:18.260 being true.

00:15:18.880 I mean, we're

00:15:19.200 obviously highlighting

00:15:20.000 the ones where it

00:15:20.600 doesn't seem like

00:15:21.100 they are because it

00:15:22.420 makes the point.

00:15:23.200 But the issue is

00:15:24.140 even if it is a

00:15:25.200 drug dealer and

00:15:26.400 they have five

00:15:26.920 hundred thousand

00:15:27.360 dollars in the

00:15:27.800 car, unless you

00:15:28.920 have evidence that

00:15:29.720 they are a drug

00:15:30.320 dealer, you can't

00:15:31.260 take their money,

00:15:32.420 even if they are a

00:15:33.540 drug dealer.

00:15:34.320 It's not the

00:15:34.980 type of thing

00:15:35.460 where you can

00:15:35.760 just be like,

00:15:36.080 well, I mean,

00:15:36.600 he, look at

00:15:37.360 him.

00:15:37.860 I mean, it's

00:15:38.520 basically the big

00:15:39.400 Lebowski.

00:15:40.760 I think we just

00:15:41.700 got to say he's

00:15:42.500 probably a drug

00:15:43.380 dealer.

00:15:43.680 I mean, if that

00:15:44.180 happened, think of

00:15:45.080 how many times

00:15:46.140 Jeffy would go to

00:15:46.800 prison.

00:15:47.540 People would look

00:15:48.060 at him and just

00:15:48.540 say, he obviously

00:15:49.300 just deserves to

00:15:50.020 go.

00:15:50.380 Look at the guy.

00:15:51.620 And that's not

00:15:52.420 the way.

00:15:52.700 We can't have

00:15:53.160 that.

00:15:53.820 We could not

00:15:54.420 have that.

00:15:55.060 If look at him

00:15:56.920 was enough, Jeffy

00:15:58.880 would have been put

00:15:59.700 to death a long

00:16:00.320 time ago.

00:16:00.780 A long time ago.

00:16:01.120 He would have

00:16:01.300 gotten the death

00:16:01.780 penalty.

00:16:04.080 A long time

00:16:04.560 ago.

00:16:04.940 A long time

00:16:05.340 ago.

00:16:05.600 So fortunately

00:16:05.980 for you, look

00:16:07.860 at him.

00:16:10.040 It's not the

00:16:10.880 way we work in

00:16:11.980 America.

00:16:12.860 Good.

00:16:13.460 Yeah.

00:16:13.740 Right.

00:16:14.080 Because we all

00:16:14.500 know there's

00:16:14.800 obviously associated

00:16:16.100 plenty of evidence

00:16:17.120 that if people

00:16:18.320 looked into it,

00:16:18.920 they would find

00:16:19.440 it.

00:16:19.660 But you can't

00:16:20.200 just say, look

00:16:20.740 at him.

00:16:21.360 That's not

00:16:21.860 enough.

00:16:22.580 It's the United

00:16:23.180 States of America.

00:16:24.280 It's not supposed

00:16:24.680 to be.

00:16:25.320 I mean, would

00:16:26.280 even, you know,

00:16:27.080 would Iran even

00:16:28.060 admit to that?

00:16:29.660 I mean, I don't

00:16:30.220 think so.

00:16:30.920 No, they might do

00:16:31.980 it all the time.

00:16:32.960 But we are doing

00:16:34.020 it as if it's

00:16:35.600 legal, as if this

00:16:37.120 is an accepted

00:16:38.060 practice in the

00:16:39.140 United States of

00:16:39.760 America.

00:16:41.140 It's incredible.

00:16:42.760 Yeah.

00:16:42.940 Government should

00:16:43.560 never have enough

00:16:44.700 power that just

00:16:45.580 because you're

00:16:46.160 driving down the

00:16:47.040 road with a bunch

00:16:47.800 of your own

00:16:48.320 property, they get

00:16:49.100 to take it.

00:16:50.320 It's insanity.

00:16:51.760 It's like, it's

00:16:52.440 not like close to

00:16:53.400 the line.

00:16:54.340 You know, five

00:16:55.020 years ago, I

00:16:55.660 would have never

00:16:56.120 believed that this

00:16:57.560 was possible in

00:16:58.920 America.

00:16:59.300 Would you?

00:17:00.020 I wouldn't have

00:17:00.780 believed it.

00:17:01.520 You could have

00:17:01.860 said, you know

00:17:02.740 what?

00:17:03.080 Within five years,

00:17:04.200 people are going

00:17:04.640 to just, they're

00:17:05.980 going to be pulled

00:17:06.420 over for routine

00:17:07.260 traffic stops.

00:17:08.460 There's going to

00:17:08.940 be cash in their

00:17:09.560 car and the

00:17:10.120 authorities are

00:17:10.620 just going to

00:17:11.020 take it.

00:17:11.800 I'm like, well,

00:17:12.620 yeah, if they're

00:17:13.260 charged with a

00:17:13.800 crime, they might,

00:17:14.800 right?

00:17:15.680 Nope.

00:17:16.360 They don't have

00:17:16.720 to be charged.

00:17:17.380 There doesn't have

00:17:17.780 to be any evidence

00:17:18.480 against them.

00:17:19.180 If they have a

00:17:19.900 large sum of money,

00:17:20.680 they shouldn't.

00:17:21.420 And they're just

00:17:21.880 going to take it

00:17:22.360 from them.

00:17:22.820 Yeah, but I

00:17:23.840 wouldn't have

00:17:24.120 believed it.

00:17:24.460 Sniffed some

00:17:25.360 drugs in the

00:17:26.040 air.

00:17:26.540 Yeah, except

00:17:26.980 there weren't

00:17:27.380 any.

00:17:28.000 So, yeah.

00:17:30.980 Yeah.

00:17:31.220 So, I also

00:17:34.040 have another

00:17:34.860 pretty amazing

00:17:36.360 story that's

00:17:37.240 going on and

00:17:38.420 you wouldn't

00:17:39.220 think it was

00:17:39.640 happening in

00:17:40.660 America.

00:17:41.240 Does anybody

00:17:42.220 know that the

00:17:43.080 TSA is having

00:17:45.140 air marshals

00:17:46.080 follow Americans

00:17:47.260 on their trips?

00:17:49.200 For instance,

00:17:49.900 if you've been

00:17:50.520 to a country

00:17:52.340 that the TSA

00:17:53.880 suspects is

00:17:54.900 terrorist related

00:17:56.600 if there's a

00:17:57.160 lot of terrorism

00:17:57.680 going on there,

00:17:58.860 if you've been

00:17:59.500 to that country,

00:18:00.140 let's say Turkey

00:18:00.800 in the last

00:18:01.760 little while,

00:18:03.020 there's a chance

00:18:03.940 that they could

00:18:04.680 assign air

00:18:05.740 marshals to

00:18:06.660 follow you on

00:18:07.600 your trips and

00:18:08.420 then when you

00:18:08.980 get to your

00:18:09.360 destination,

00:18:10.020 follow you

00:18:10.440 there.

00:18:11.420 They've done

00:18:12.040 that to over

00:18:12.620 5,000

00:18:14.100 Americans.

00:18:15.400 Wow.

00:18:16.960 They just

00:18:17.520 assign air

00:18:18.440 marshals.

00:18:19.320 It's called

00:18:20.040 the Quiet

00:18:20.700 Skies

00:18:21.340 program.

00:18:23.140 Because it's

00:18:23.680 not in the

00:18:24.280 skies.

00:18:24.960 That's why

00:18:25.440 the skies are

00:18:25.980 so quiet.

00:18:27.440 And they're

00:18:27.940 just,

00:18:29.140 without having

00:18:31.620 evidence that

00:18:32.600 people have

00:18:33.700 done anything

00:18:34.180 wrong,

00:18:34.700 they're actually

00:18:35.340 following them

00:18:36.620 on their

00:18:37.080 flights.

00:18:37.620 Again,

00:18:38.060 they could

00:18:38.420 do something

00:18:38.920 wrong.

00:18:39.460 They might.

00:18:40.100 They might

00:18:40.740 someday do

00:18:41.340 something wrong.

00:18:42.720 Or they might

00:18:43.460 be planning to

00:18:44.180 do something

00:18:44.640 wrong.

00:18:46.020 But there's

00:18:47.260 no evidence

00:18:47.760 they've done

00:18:48.220 anything wrong.

00:18:49.060 Well,

00:18:49.280 they bought

00:18:49.480 a ticket to

00:18:50.100 a country.

00:18:50.720 To Turkey,

00:18:51.860 for instance.

00:18:52.840 Yeah.

00:18:53.380 And it's

00:18:53.920 named after

00:18:54.500 a Thanksgiving

00:18:55.120 dinner.

00:18:55.680 What are you

00:18:56.160 going there

00:18:56.560 for?

00:18:57.120 What is that

00:18:57.760 all about?

00:18:58.420 That's just

00:18:59.080 stupid,

00:18:59.680 right?

00:19:03.540 It's Pat and

00:19:04.300 Stuart,

00:19:04.620 Jeffy,

00:19:05.200 for Glenn

00:19:05.720 This Week.

00:19:07.140 You know,

00:19:07.780 when I want

00:19:08.260 really insightful

00:19:09.440 political

00:19:10.040 commentary,

00:19:11.080 the first

00:19:11.700 place I go

00:19:12.220 to is ESPN.

00:19:13.500 That's where

00:19:14.020 you're going

00:19:15.100 to find out

00:19:15.520 what really

00:19:16.180 is going

00:19:16.620 on politically

00:19:17.220 in this

00:19:17.620 world.

00:19:17.880 Don't you

00:19:18.120 agree?

00:19:18.360 That is

00:19:20.220 really the

00:19:20.800 hub for

00:19:22.340 political

00:19:23.420 discourse.

00:19:24.180 It does

00:19:24.380 seem to

00:19:24.820 be their

00:19:25.100 goal.

00:19:25.500 It does,

00:19:26.200 doesn't it?

00:19:26.460 To be the

00:19:26.480 hub of

00:19:26.960 political

00:19:27.340 discourse.

00:19:28.700 Now,

00:19:28.900 there's

00:19:29.120 rumors that

00:19:30.120 they are

00:19:30.440 trying to

00:19:30.880 reverse that.

00:19:31.940 The big

00:19:32.700 step that

00:19:33.140 they've taken

00:19:33.540 recently is

00:19:34.180 blowing out

00:19:34.920 Jemele Hill,

00:19:36.520 one of their

00:19:36.920 supposed rising

00:19:38.240 stars,

00:19:38.860 very recently.

00:19:39.820 Yeah,

00:19:39.980 I saw that

00:19:40.360 they just

00:19:41.140 came to

00:19:41.480 some agreement

00:19:41.960 with her

00:19:42.380 to part.

00:19:43.200 Yeah,

00:19:43.460 so she

00:19:43.740 started out,

00:19:44.280 she was on

00:19:44.560 SportsCenter,

00:19:45.120 and they

00:19:45.300 kind of did

00:19:45.620 this thing

00:19:46.160 with her as

00:19:46.780 a star of

00:19:47.540 SportsCenter

00:19:48.260 in one of

00:19:48.520 the hours,

00:19:49.440 and they

00:19:49.700 tried to

00:19:50.080 really customize

00:19:50.700 it for her

00:19:51.440 and her

00:19:52.560 on-air partner,

00:19:54.040 and they

00:19:54.260 tried to

00:19:54.460 make it

00:19:54.620 into a big

00:19:54.940 deal.

00:19:55.280 It was very

00:19:55.640 much sort

00:19:56.420 of a social

00:19:57.020 justice tilt

00:19:58.300 on the news

00:19:59.080 of sports,

00:20:00.440 and that

00:20:01.780 wasn't working

00:20:02.140 out so well.

00:20:02.840 The ratings

00:20:03.220 were not good.

00:20:04.160 They spent a

00:20:04.660 fortune on the

00:20:05.400 show and got

00:20:05.980 nothing out of

00:20:06.500 it, and then

00:20:07.520 she started

00:20:07.960 tweeting constantly

00:20:09.000 about how bad

00:20:09.960 Trump was and

00:20:10.660 how evil he was

00:20:11.420 and how he was

00:20:11.740 a racist and

00:20:12.340 everything else,

00:20:12.780 and of course,

00:20:13.260 that pisses off

00:20:13.980 half the audience

00:20:14.660 at ESPN.

00:20:15.400 So they took

00:20:17.020 her off of

00:20:17.520 SportsCenter and

00:20:18.340 tossed her over

00:20:18.980 to this thing

00:20:19.520 called the

00:20:20.140 Undefeated,

00:20:21.480 which is like a

00:20:22.220 sort of like

00:20:22.940 side website

00:20:24.200 that only deals

00:20:25.540 with like racial

00:20:26.680 issues in sports,

00:20:28.100 and they were

00:20:29.240 like, hey, why

00:20:30.160 don't you go

00:20:30.700 hang out over

00:20:31.240 there, and I

00:20:33.660 guess even that,

00:20:34.620 she's even too

00:20:35.800 crazy for that

00:20:36.800 world because now

00:20:37.860 that's not working

00:20:38.620 out.

00:20:39.520 They're saying

00:20:39.940 it's amicable,

00:20:40.900 but everyone

00:20:41.400 seems to be

00:20:42.500 speculating that

00:20:43.260 basically she was

00:20:44.240 fired, and now

00:20:45.380 likely she'll go

00:20:46.420 even deeper into

00:20:47.560 that world, right?

00:20:48.240 She'll certainly be

00:20:49.040 embraced by some

00:20:49.960 left-wing publication

00:20:51.640 or think tank or

00:20:52.860 something that has

00:20:53.560 probably nothing to

00:20:54.440 do with sports

00:20:55.080 because of the

00:20:55.860 stand she took.

00:20:56.660 That's what happens

00:20:57.160 to the left.

00:20:58.100 They get rewarded

00:20:58.640 for these things.

00:20:59.460 Oh, she'll go

00:20:59.860 work for the New

00:21:00.280 York Times.

00:21:00.700 She'll be fine.

00:21:02.260 She probably will.

00:21:03.020 She probably will

00:21:03.540 hire this a columnist.

00:21:04.800 I mean, you can

00:21:05.620 tweet about how you

00:21:06.500 want all white people

00:21:07.540 dead and get a column

00:21:08.540 at the New York Times.

00:21:10.620 You know, even if

00:21:11.960 you're joking, I mean,

00:21:12.760 that certainly would

00:21:13.300 not be allowed for

00:21:14.180 conservatives.

00:21:15.540 No way.

00:21:16.080 So, there are

00:21:19.000 rumors that ESPN's

00:21:20.200 okay.

00:21:21.140 We've gone down

00:21:22.320 this wrong road.

00:21:23.200 We're seeing that

00:21:24.180 people hate it.

00:21:25.500 Let's try to reverse

00:21:26.300 it.

00:21:26.620 It's going to be

00:21:26.940 tough.

00:21:27.200 When you go down

00:21:28.480 that road too far,

00:21:29.420 it's hard to reverse

00:21:30.240 those things.

00:21:31.160 But, you know,

00:21:32.300 at least today's news

00:21:33.580 does not seem like

00:21:34.280 they've made strides

00:21:35.480 yet.

00:21:36.480 No, not when you

00:21:37.320 see Tiger Woods

00:21:39.860 saying, hey,

00:21:42.020 you've got to

00:21:43.060 respect the office

00:21:43.860 of the presidency

00:21:44.580 because he was

00:21:45.200 being baited into

00:21:47.100 bashing the president.

00:21:48.240 I don't think he

00:21:49.000 wanted to.

00:21:49.660 No, because I guess

00:21:50.320 he plays golf with

00:21:51.260 Trump occasionally.

00:21:52.580 They've been friendly

00:21:53.580 over the years.

00:21:54.200 I don't think

00:21:55.860 they're tight

00:21:56.440 friends, but

00:21:57.200 they're acquaintances.

00:21:59.260 And I don't know

00:22:00.060 Tiger's political

00:22:01.360 ideology.

00:22:03.040 Do you?

00:22:03.480 No, and isn't

00:22:04.220 that great?

00:22:04.860 Yeah, it's fine.

00:22:05.900 In fact, it is

00:22:07.300 great.

00:22:07.720 It's great.

00:22:08.400 I don't want to

00:22:09.040 know.

00:22:09.320 I just want to

00:22:09.880 watch him play

00:22:10.520 golf.

00:22:11.080 Yeah.

00:22:11.500 I mean, look,

00:22:12.240 he's absolutely

00:22:13.240 free to express

00:22:14.320 that if he wants.

00:22:15.240 He obviously

00:22:15.940 doesn't want to.

00:22:17.360 He knows better.

00:22:17.980 Right?

00:22:18.740 You know everything

00:22:19.400 about the guy.

00:22:20.060 Why would you limit

00:22:20.580 your fan base?

00:22:21.520 Well, he's not.

00:22:22.300 He's not doing

00:22:22.800 that.

00:22:23.520 So he said,

00:22:24.500 you got to

00:22:24.860 respect the office.

00:22:25.840 Well, Max

00:22:26.720 Kellerman of that

00:22:27.980 show.

00:22:28.440 What is the name

00:22:28.980 of that show

00:22:29.360 with him and

00:22:29.980 Stephen A.

00:22:30.520 Smith where

00:22:31.960 they yell

00:22:32.420 everything they

00:22:33.220 say?

00:22:33.700 First take.

00:22:34.200 Yeah.

00:22:34.340 They scream

00:22:35.100 everything they

00:22:35.920 say, no matter

00:22:36.620 what it is.

00:22:37.440 They yell at the

00:22:38.440 top of their lungs.

00:22:39.220 It's true.

00:22:39.960 Yeah.

00:22:40.540 I mean, I

00:22:41.840 really annoying.

00:22:42.660 It makes you

00:22:43.080 like cognizant of

00:22:44.160 not doing that

00:22:44.820 when you're doing

00:22:45.480 a show because

00:22:46.260 you realize it's

00:22:47.460 not.

00:22:48.060 No, that's

00:22:48.420 really annoying.

00:22:49.320 It kind of

00:22:49.680 is.

00:22:50.140 And I love

00:22:51.380 Stephen A.

00:22:51.800 Smith.

00:22:52.420 He's a brave

00:22:53.740 guy.

00:22:54.480 You know, the

00:22:54.940 fact that he

00:22:55.420 stood up.

00:22:55.640 I like him

00:22:55.920 better than

00:22:56.280 Kellerman.

00:22:56.780 That's for

00:22:57.100 sure.

00:22:57.440 Yeah.

00:22:57.840 I mean, you

00:22:58.400 know, Stephen

00:22:58.820 A.

00:22:58.940 Smith has stood

00:23:00.060 up in really

00:23:01.740 difficult situations.

00:23:03.100 Taking strong

00:23:03.400 stands.

00:23:03.600 Taking strong

00:23:04.160 stands.

00:23:04.960 Many times

00:23:05.840 against what

00:23:07.680 you would expect.

00:23:08.540 Yeah.

00:23:09.360 And, you

00:23:10.060 know, on race

00:23:10.740 supporting Republicans

00:23:11.980 and, you

00:23:12.860 know, trying to

00:23:13.800 speak, I think,

00:23:14.780 truth about some

00:23:16.120 of the of some

00:23:17.340 of the issues

00:23:18.280 that are out

00:23:18.740 there.

00:23:19.080 Black white

00:23:19.400 issues.

00:23:19.720 And, you

00:23:20.220 know, he's I

00:23:20.600 don't always

00:23:20.880 agree with a

00:23:21.260 guy, but

00:23:21.600 that's one of

00:23:22.680 the reasons

00:23:22.900 why you

00:23:23.220 actually listen

00:23:24.020 to him is

00:23:25.020 because you

00:23:25.460 realize occasionally

00:23:26.540 he'll say

00:23:27.140 something that

00:23:27.700 you don't expect.

00:23:28.660 You know, he'll

00:23:29.240 go the other

00:23:29.920 way and he'll

00:23:30.680 challenge his

00:23:31.500 own audience.

00:23:32.320 And that's

00:23:32.920 what I love.

00:23:33.660 I want that

00:23:34.320 from a host.

00:23:35.020 Yeah, me

00:23:35.260 too.

00:23:36.240 Well,

00:23:37.900 Kellerman took

00:23:39.440 issue with

00:23:40.400 Tiger Woods

00:23:41.000 saying that you

00:23:42.220 should respect the

00:23:42.940 office.

00:23:43.560 Here's what he

00:23:44.400 said yesterday.

00:23:44.980 I want to say

00:23:45.980 something about

00:23:46.360 what Tiger Woods

00:23:47.000 said.

00:23:47.200 OK, go ahead.

00:23:49.480 It really

00:23:50.040 bothers me.

00:23:50.900 I don't I am

00:23:51.800 angry at what

00:23:52.460 Tiger Woods

00:23:52.980 said because it

00:23:54.260 is it is a

00:23:55.180 thoughtless statement

00:23:56.320 dressed up as a

00:23:57.260 thoughtful statement

00:23:57.980 and it either

00:23:58.980 holds in contempt

00:23:59.940 the intelligence of

00:24:00.840 the people who

00:24:01.380 hear it or else

00:24:02.420 it's just a stupid

00:24:03.200 thing to say.

00:24:04.180 Let me tell you

00:24:05.060 what I mean.

00:24:05.960 The if to say

00:24:06.960 that the office

00:24:07.940 you must have

00:24:09.260 respect for the

00:24:09.960 office.

00:24:10.820 Tiger, be clear.

00:24:12.260 Are you saying

00:24:13.440 that the office

00:24:14.120 therefore confers

00:24:15.280 respect onto its

00:24:16.480 occupant, its

00:24:17.480 present temporary

00:24:18.380 occupant?

00:24:19.840 No.

00:24:20.520 What the what

00:24:21.000 the having respect

00:24:22.040 for the office

00:24:22.680 means principally

00:24:24.160 in my view is

00:24:25.220 the office holder

00:24:26.000 should have respect

00:24:26.740 for the office.

00:24:27.980 That's the issue

00:24:28.540 that the African

00:24:29.040 American community

00:24:29.760 has always had

00:24:30.580 because obviously

00:24:31.540 from a historical

00:24:32.260 perspective, you

00:24:33.340 know, if one

00:24:33.920 third of you has

00:24:35.040 a darker hill,

00:24:35.860 a darker pigmentation,

00:24:37.240 you know, the

00:24:37.500 bottom line is you

00:24:38.300 are black and it

00:24:38.980 is that simple

00:24:39.640 and you get it

00:24:40.540 even one third.

00:24:41.500 I'm just throwing

00:24:42.040 that out there.

00:24:43.040 One eighth.

00:24:43.880 Exactly.

00:24:44.420 So what I'm

00:24:44.760 saying to you is

00:24:45.480 that clearly you

00:24:46.920 are perceived as

00:24:47.920 being a black man

00:24:49.100 and even though

00:24:49.600 you didn't want to

00:24:50.320 disassociate yourself

00:24:51.920 from your mother's

00:24:53.100 ethnicity, who is

00:24:54.300 Ty, who is Ty, I

00:24:55.300 believe, the bottom

00:24:56.140 line is that that's

00:24:57.200 the reason why he

00:24:57.860 took that position.

00:24:58.580 But black Americans

00:24:59.380 haven't respected

00:25:00.000 that for Tiger for

00:25:00.700 quite some time.

00:25:01.680 They haven't heard

00:25:02.260 Tiger speak on a

00:25:03.320 plethora of issues

00:25:04.220 pertaining to having

00:25:05.520 a social consciousness

00:25:06.400 on many, many

00:25:07.260 occasions.

00:25:07.980 That is something

00:25:08.520 that people have

00:25:09.100 lamented as well.

00:25:10.060 Stephen, kind of a

00:25:11.220 weird discussion

00:25:12.200 there because one

00:25:12.800 of them is talking

00:25:13.360 about the office

00:25:14.080 of the presidency

00:25:14.720 and respecting it.

00:25:16.240 The other one is

00:25:16.700 talking about something

00:25:17.480 Tiger said a long

00:25:18.320 time ago or that

00:25:20.740 he's always maintained

00:25:21.740 was that he was

00:25:22.700 he's mixed race.

00:25:24.680 Yeah, he's not

00:25:25.240 black enough.

00:25:25.720 And so if you don't, I

00:25:28.580 guess, ignore whatever

00:25:31.180 white portion of you

00:25:33.560 there is, then you're

00:25:36.000 You're not woke.

00:25:37.040 Yeah, you're not.

00:25:37.980 You're a terrible

00:25:38.480 person.

00:25:39.380 Well, why should he

00:25:41.500 deny his any of his

00:25:44.840 ethnicity?

00:25:45.560 I don't understand that.

00:25:47.460 I don't understand any

00:25:48.400 of it, to be honest

00:25:49.080 with you.

00:25:49.300 There is, I get no

00:25:52.940 part of my life, my

00:25:55.320 personality, the things

00:25:57.580 I do every day.

00:25:58.780 I get none of it from

00:26:01.060 my race.

00:26:02.320 I literally never think

00:26:04.280 about it at all.

00:26:05.100 I mean, that's your

00:26:05.640 personally, that's your

00:26:06.760 white privilege speaker.

00:26:07.820 I think people would

00:26:08.860 legitimately argue that,

00:26:09.960 right?

00:26:10.160 Like if they would,

00:26:10.940 maybe if you're, you

00:26:11.700 know, you're black, that

00:26:12.500 is a bigger, such a

00:26:13.260 white thing to say.

00:26:14.280 It is a white thing to

00:26:14.980 say.

00:26:15.180 But, but, but I

00:26:17.060 never understand, this

00:26:17.800 is why I never

00:26:18.240 understand things like

00:26:19.000 the alt-right.

00:26:20.120 You know, like I

00:26:20.920 don't care.

00:26:22.160 Don't care about it.

00:26:22.600 Don't care about it

00:26:23.440 at all.

00:26:23.620 Don't think about it.

00:26:24.400 It's complete, just

00:26:25.260 like, you know, the

00:26:26.080 size of your hands or,

00:26:28.000 you know, you know,

00:26:29.420 whether you have acne or

00:26:31.020 not is not a characteristic

00:26:32.580 that I care about.

00:26:33.920 Like none of those,

00:26:34.840 they're just, it's just a

00:26:35.640 physical characteristic

00:26:36.400 that means nothing.

00:26:37.720 Who cares?

00:26:39.200 And so much, so many

00:26:40.940 people are so obsessed

00:26:43.280 with it.

00:26:43.580 I mean, it flies.

00:26:45.180 It's directly in the

00:26:46.040 face of what Martin

00:26:46.600 Luther King wanted,

00:26:47.500 which is he wanted

00:26:48.180 people not to care.

00:26:49.440 He wanted people to

00:26:50.740 not care about the

00:26:51.740 color of the skin,

00:26:52.680 care about the content

00:26:53.600 of the character.

00:26:54.760 And now the

00:26:56.020 enlightened left has

00:26:57.640 done, has instituted

00:26:59.320 this way of thinking

00:27:00.480 that every single

00:27:02.320 decision you make,

00:27:03.940 every comment you

00:27:05.040 make about every

00:27:05.800 story must be

00:27:07.280 filtered through the

00:27:08.260 lens of, of, of

00:27:12.080 race or gender or

00:27:13.820 some other physically

00:27:15.000 identifiable

00:27:15.940 characteristic, which

00:27:17.020 is insanity.

00:27:18.180 Sexual preference.

00:27:18.800 Sexual preference.

00:27:19.980 None of that makes any

00:27:21.200 difference.

00:27:22.520 Does you ever, I just,

00:27:24.640 I never, does anybody

00:27:25.700 go through their life

00:27:26.420 thinking like that?

00:27:28.260 Do you go through your

00:27:28.920 life thinking, wow, I

00:27:29.860 would like to do this,

00:27:30.660 but I'm going to do the

00:27:31.260 reverse because of my

00:27:32.300 skin color.

00:27:33.080 Who does that?

00:27:34.200 It's stupid.

00:27:35.260 It's a dumb way to live.

00:27:36.340 And I understand why

00:27:37.860 there's, because in our

00:27:39.500 history there have been

00:27:40.820 real problems in this

00:27:42.500 area and the fact that

00:27:44.140 it's part of your, you

00:27:45.180 know, your lineage is

00:27:46.300 something that obviously,

00:27:47.360 you know, people will

00:27:49.500 consider as part of their

00:27:51.220 everyday life.

00:27:51.880 But the idea that Tiger,

00:27:53.180 the idea we can't have

00:27:54.580 one person who doesn't

00:27:56.100 talk about this stuff.

00:27:56.980 We can't have one

00:27:58.180 freaking sports celebrity

00:27:59.580 who doesn't go up in

00:28:01.000 front, in front of the

00:28:02.420 nation and bash the

00:28:03.500 president every five

00:28:04.360 minutes.

00:28:05.220 Really?

00:28:06.020 We have a litany.

00:28:08.300 The entire National

00:28:09.700 Basketball Association

00:28:10.980 seems to be set up to

00:28:12.640 oppose Donald Trump.

00:28:13.780 That's a fact.

00:28:14.980 Every big celebrity

00:28:16.600 takes stance against

00:28:17.420 this guy every day.

00:28:18.660 The National Football

00:28:19.980 League, there are a lot

00:28:21.200 of people in the

00:28:21.780 National Football League

00:28:22.540 who are kneeling on the

00:28:23.420 anthem and even when

00:28:24.440 they're not kneeling

00:28:25.140 saying, well, you know,

00:28:26.960 Trump is wrong for

00:28:28.360 getting involved in this.

00:28:30.020 Can we have one guy

00:28:32.020 who, by the way, is in

00:28:33.400 the middle of a

00:28:34.340 return from a career

00:28:35.700 crisis where he should

00:28:37.240 be focusing on trying

00:28:38.860 to win tournaments?

00:28:41.620 Can we have one guy

00:28:43.540 who's not constantly

00:28:44.860 talking about politics?

00:28:45.920 Can we have one?

00:28:47.280 Can we have one person?

00:28:49.480 If you're to listen to

00:28:50.520 Kellerman and Stephen A,

00:28:51.940 the answer is no.

00:28:52.680 No.

00:28:53.240 We're not allowed to.

00:28:53.980 They can't let him just

00:28:55.320 be him.

00:28:56.680 Every single person of

00:28:58.080 prominence must take a

00:28:59.700 position on politics.

00:29:01.160 And it has to be against

00:29:03.300 or you get bashed for

00:29:04.100 that, too.

00:29:04.640 It's not just taking a

00:29:05.600 position.

00:29:05.940 It's got to be the right

00:29:06.840 position.

00:29:07.500 Yeah.

00:29:08.020 Oh, absolutely.

00:29:08.800 It does.

00:29:09.320 And like, you know what

00:29:09.880 I want is almost no one

00:29:11.640 doing it.

00:29:12.400 My choice is, you know

00:29:13.540 what?

00:29:13.760 Look, I understand that

00:29:14.760 people are people and

00:29:16.340 why should it be that you

00:29:18.000 and I should get along so

00:29:18.960 awfully?

00:29:19.660 I understand that people

00:29:20.420 are going to take

00:29:20.800 stances.

00:29:21.280 That's that makes

00:29:22.880 plenty of sense, right?

00:29:24.600 People are going to take

00:29:25.600 their stances in their

00:29:26.680 personal life.

00:29:27.180 You can't stop them.

00:29:27.820 You shouldn't discourage

00:29:28.780 them from doing it.

00:29:29.640 But as a person who

00:29:31.020 wants to escape this

00:29:32.380 world and nonsense

00:29:33.520 every day and go to

00:29:34.420 sports, which is why it

00:29:35.720 exists, it doesn't have

00:29:37.000 any importance outside

00:29:38.160 of that.

00:29:39.660 I would love to not hear

00:29:42.080 about your political

00:29:43.480 views all the time.

00:29:44.760 People come to this

00:29:45.720 stupid show to hear

00:29:47.540 political views.

00:29:48.600 Yeah.

00:29:49.060 Well, you don't go to

00:29:50.160 the NFL or the NBA or

00:29:51.820 the PGA to hear that.

00:29:53.260 You go there to escape

00:29:54.320 from it, to run as fast

00:29:56.600 as you can away from

00:29:57.660 it.

00:29:57.880 It's interesting, though,

00:29:58.620 that all the sports

00:29:59.340 guys want to talk about

00:30:00.260 politics and all the

00:30:01.180 politics guys want to

00:30:02.340 talk about sports.

00:30:03.840 By the way, maybe we

00:30:06.440 just switch positions with

00:30:08.160 Max and Stephen A.

00:30:10.060 Maybe that's what we do.

00:30:11.980 That's a good idea, Pat.

00:30:13.620 You guys, come on in.

00:30:15.200 The water sucks.

00:30:16.600 Yeah, let's switch shows.

00:30:17.280 Come on in.

00:30:18.000 Let's trade.

00:30:19.460 Let's check it out.

00:30:20.160 We'll go over there.

00:30:20.820 We'll talk some sports.

00:30:21.920 And you know what we'll

00:30:22.700 do is we will not get

00:30:24.060 into any of these issues.

00:30:25.380 Right.

00:30:25.520 We'll talk about what

00:30:27.500 quarterback is going to

00:30:29.920 win a quarterback battle.

00:30:31.400 We're going to talk about

00:30:32.640 what running back should

00:30:34.580 win the position battle

00:30:35.460 there.

00:30:36.140 We'll go into what the

00:30:37.800 defensive changes mean for

00:30:39.060 the new coordinator.

00:30:40.260 Right.

00:30:40.480 And people might be bored

00:30:41.860 out of their minds, but

00:30:42.800 man, we'll love it.

00:30:43.940 I don't know if anyone

00:30:44.600 I don't know if anyone

00:30:45.520 cares about the actual

00:30:46.360 sports anymore.

00:30:47.760 I do.

00:30:48.120 Everyone wants to talk

00:30:48.300 about culture.

00:30:49.160 I do.

00:30:50.020 Yeah, good.

00:30:50.720 College football really

00:30:52.340 kicks into gear in earnest

00:30:53.680 this weekend.

00:30:54.340 And I'm pretty excited

00:30:55.320 about that.

00:30:56.100 Pretty excited.

00:30:57.240 And then it's the week

00:30:58.680 after it's what two

00:31:00.440 weeks from now.

00:31:01.320 Yeah.

00:31:01.480 Two weeks from Thursday

00:31:02.320 is the NFL.

00:31:03.820 You'll notice the Atlanta

00:31:04.660 Falcons playing the

00:31:05.380 defending Super Bowl

00:31:06.440 champion Philadelphia

00:31:07.660 Eagles.

00:31:09.000 Feels good.

00:31:10.160 Whose Malcolm Jenkins

00:31:11.360 is still kneeling.

00:31:12.860 He still is.

00:31:13.780 But again, that's what

00:31:15.300 it makes.

00:31:15.700 That's another part of

00:31:16.560 this.

00:31:16.740 It's so funny.

00:31:17.680 Malcolm Jenkins is a

00:31:18.920 great player.

00:31:19.820 Yeah.

00:31:20.140 You know what?

00:31:20.520 So they don't care.

00:31:22.540 The Eagles will sit

00:31:23.320 there and sit through

00:31:24.140 as much.

00:31:24.960 Eagles fans will sit

00:31:26.240 through as much

00:31:26.760 kneeling as he wants

00:31:27.780 to do because they

00:31:28.520 want to win the Super

00:31:29.380 Bowl.

00:31:29.840 Exactly.

00:31:30.440 No, he's just resting

00:31:31.300 up for the game.

00:31:31.980 He's not kneeling.

00:31:32.660 And the same thing

00:31:33.300 would happen with

00:31:34.300 Colin Kaepernick if he

00:31:35.480 didn't suck.

00:31:36.400 Yeah.

00:31:36.800 If he wasn't a terrible

00:31:37.800 quarterback, he would

00:31:38.620 have had a job a long

00:31:39.620 time ago.

00:31:40.360 Yeah.

00:31:40.620 And people would

00:31:41.360 look past him.

00:31:41.400 And he was offered

00:31:41.940 them.

00:31:42.220 And we know that now.

00:31:43.060 Yeah.

00:31:43.500 From several NFL teams,

00:31:45.660 including the Seahawks

00:31:47.020 and the Broncos,

00:31:48.580 offered him quarterback

00:31:50.020 positions.

00:31:50.820 He turned them down.

00:31:52.120 So that's on you, man.

00:31:53.460 That's on you.

00:31:54.180 And they wanted to keep

00:31:55.120 that storyline alive.

00:31:56.860 They wanted you to

00:31:57.640 believe so badly that

00:31:59.120 people wouldn't hire him

00:32:00.340 because he was taking a

00:32:01.860 stand on race.

00:32:02.560 Shut up.

00:32:03.260 And they kept that

00:32:03.840 alive for how long?

00:32:04.800 And now that we know

00:32:05.380 the other side of it,

00:32:07.220 there's no impact.

00:32:08.400 Not a beat, no.

00:32:08.900 They've already got their

00:32:09.720 points out of it.

00:32:10.540 Yeah.

00:32:11.160 Amazing.

00:32:11.640 You know, it was

00:32:12.080 fatiguing, though.

00:32:13.000 And Jeffy and I have

00:32:13.860 talked about this a

00:32:15.000 couple times in the

00:32:16.620 last couple of weeks.

00:32:17.460 On what show?

00:32:18.640 On Pat Gray Unleashed,

00:32:20.080 which immediately

00:32:21.180 follows this one on

00:32:21.980 the voice radio

00:32:22.520 television network.

00:32:23.400 Every day from,

00:32:24.360 yeah, about 1230.

00:32:26.040 An hour with chewing

00:32:26.600 the fat?

00:32:27.120 Mm-hmm.

00:32:27.640 So we couldn't help

00:32:31.240 but notice, you know,

00:32:32.740 how fatiguing it was

00:32:34.080 to continually see the

00:32:35.560 NFL players during the

00:32:36.920 offseason and their

00:32:38.360 protests on the

00:32:39.680 street corners and

00:32:40.520 everywhere they were.

00:32:42.420 And you just couldn't

00:32:43.120 get away from them

00:32:43.960 and their protests

00:32:44.680 and their social

00:32:45.260 justice because,

00:32:46.380 man, did we see

00:32:47.460 them everywhere?

00:32:48.460 We sure didn't.

00:32:49.240 Except for Wade.

00:32:50.420 I didn't see them

00:32:51.260 anywhere.

00:32:52.500 So, and then I hear,

00:32:54.240 you know, how

00:32:54.800 important this is to

00:32:55.860 them.

00:32:56.460 Well, you only want to

00:32:57.500 do it on game day

00:32:58.640 when nobody wants to

00:32:59.480 see it.

00:33:00.000 Where are you the

00:33:00.680 rest of the time?

00:33:01.780 You could even do it

00:33:02.600 during the game,

00:33:03.460 just not through the

00:33:04.220 anthem and no one

00:33:05.020 would oppose it.

00:33:06.320 Yeah.

00:33:06.400 I mean, look, I would

00:33:07.060 still disagree, Bob,

00:33:07.980 probably with some of

00:33:09.020 your points.

00:33:09.400 Yeah.

00:33:09.920 Because they don't

00:33:10.380 know what they're

00:33:10.700 talking about.

00:33:11.140 Just don't do it

00:33:11.660 during the freaking

00:33:12.340 song, will ya?

00:33:13.140 Yeah.

00:33:13.840 888-727-BECK.

00:33:15.560 It's Pat, Stu, and

00:33:16.380 Jeffy for Glenn.

00:33:17.560 Glenn, back,

00:33:19.100 Mercury.

00:33:23.540 It's Pat, Stu, and

00:33:24.740 Jeffy for Glenn this

00:33:26.460 week.

00:33:27.720 Stu is making a point

00:33:29.560 about the NFL players

00:33:31.460 who are kneeling.

00:33:32.980 You don't have to

00:33:33.560 kneel during the

00:33:34.940 anthem.

00:33:35.540 In fact, it might be

00:33:36.980 better if you knelt

00:33:37.900 some other time during

00:33:40.040 the game.

00:33:40.400 Yeah, like if you

00:33:41.020 were to kneel before

00:33:42.560 the whistle started

00:33:44.780 play before a kickoff,

00:33:46.120 so everyone's kneeling

00:33:46.960 on the field.

00:33:47.760 First of all, ESPN

00:33:48.460 wouldn't be able to

00:33:49.000 avoid it.

00:33:49.360 So they go out there,

00:33:51.080 and before the opening

00:33:52.060 kickoff, everybody on the

00:33:55.840 kickoff and play as

00:33:56.120 normal.

00:33:56.920 That would, I mean,

00:33:57.820 that would make an

00:33:58.480 impact.

00:33:58.920 People would talk about

00:34:00.040 that a lot.

00:34:00.680 Yeah, and I wouldn't

00:34:01.280 agree with their points

00:34:02.060 still.

00:34:02.480 And it's away from the

00:34:03.360 national anthem.

00:34:04.120 Yeah, but that's the

00:34:04.940 issue.

00:34:05.660 That's the problem with

00:34:06.640 it.

00:34:07.220 So many of them,

00:34:08.300 this is about the

00:34:10.080 anthem.

00:34:10.500 It is about the

00:34:11.720 country.

00:34:12.240 They keep saying it's

00:34:13.580 not, but it is for many

00:34:15.160 of them.

00:34:15.820 Sure is.

00:34:16.380 Including the founder

00:34:17.700 of this thing, Colin

00:34:18.880 Kaepernick, who said

00:34:20.140 himself it was about

00:34:21.160 the anthem.

00:34:22.340 Who said himself it was

00:34:23.640 about the flag.

00:34:26.140 Yeah.

00:34:27.000 I mean, and as you

00:34:28.040 pointed out, you didn't

00:34:28.740 see a lot of social

00:34:31.980 justice warrior activity

00:34:33.540 in the offseason when

00:34:34.580 they were all on

00:34:35.000 vacation in tropical

00:34:36.020 locations.

00:34:36.640 No, you sure didn't.

00:34:37.420 You know, I mean,

00:34:37.980 that's it's you saw

00:34:39.040 it from you saw it

00:34:39.680 from Carson Wentz

00:34:40.500 going to to help

00:34:41.740 people, but you

00:34:42.300 never know.

00:34:43.200 Interesting.

00:34:46.640 Glenn back.

00:34:48.240 It's Pat's doing

00:34:48.940 Jeffy for Glenn this

00:34:50.260 week.

00:34:50.940 Also, stay tuned for

00:34:52.100 Pat Gray Unleashed

00:34:53.020 immediately following

00:34:53.920 this broadcast on the

00:34:55.420 Blaze Radio and TV

00:34:56.200 Network.

00:34:57.280 We were talking

00:34:58.600 about sports a

00:35:00.700 little bit as it

00:35:01.800 applies to politics

00:35:02.980 and the kneeling in

00:35:03.820 the NFL and Tiger

00:35:05.960 Woods trying to avoid

00:35:07.400 being political and

00:35:09.160 getting hammered for

00:35:10.180 it.

00:35:11.500 You know, a lot of

00:35:12.700 people think he's not

00:35:13.440 black enough because he

00:35:14.400 doesn't just claim to be

00:35:16.040 black.

00:35:16.820 He is mixed and you're

00:35:19.740 not supposed to talk

00:35:20.540 about your your white

00:35:21.700 portion at all.

00:35:23.280 I don't know how that's

00:35:24.960 how is that not racist?

00:35:26.520 How is that not a

00:35:28.420 problem for anybody?

00:35:29.620 If you're not supposed

00:35:30.540 to talk about anything

00:35:31.600 but being black when

00:35:35.500 you're when you're part

00:35:37.200 black, part white, part

00:35:38.820 Asian, why why is that

00:35:41.320 OK?

00:35:42.060 I'm not really sure.

00:35:43.440 I don't really don't

00:35:44.700 fully understand that, but

00:35:45.740 he gets a lot of

00:35:46.340 criticism for that because

00:35:47.840 he doesn't claim to just

00:35:48.820 be black.

00:35:49.380 And this has gone on for

00:35:50.580 so long time in sports

00:35:52.120 where, you know, even

00:35:53.080 back in the you know,

00:35:53.860 when OJ Simpson was

00:35:55.360 was playing football, he

00:35:56.600 it was a big issue in his

00:35:57.980 career early on and that

00:35:59.200 he was not talking out

00:36:00.460 about and that was just

00:36:01.260 for not taking a stand.

00:36:02.420 Yeah, he didn't take a

00:36:02.920 stand.

00:36:03.300 He didn't want to come

00:36:03.900 out.

00:36:04.120 He didn't want to be

00:36:04.600 involved in it.

00:36:05.540 And other players did.

00:36:06.720 You know, certainly like

00:36:07.400 Jim Brown was very active.

00:36:08.940 Yeah.

00:36:09.120 And by the way, still

00:36:09.940 active now supporting

00:36:10.820 Trump, which is amazing.

00:36:12.420 You know, I would have

00:36:12.960 not.

00:36:13.420 Oh, I would not have

00:36:14.260 predicted that.

00:36:14.960 I wouldn't either.

00:36:16.060 But, you know, there's

00:36:18.000 that split.

00:36:19.000 And this is the thing we

00:36:20.080 were talking about earlier

00:36:20.940 is do we have to have

00:36:22.480 everybody, every single

00:36:24.260 person that we see in the

00:36:25.200 public eye take a

00:36:26.180 position on every

00:36:26.980 political issue?

00:36:27.800 We're obsessed with it.

00:36:28.840 And I guess the answer

00:36:29.440 is yes.

00:36:29.920 It used to be a situation

00:36:31.180 I think before the 2000

00:36:32.360 election where people

00:36:34.440 were like, we need to

00:36:35.060 get more people engaged

00:36:36.440 in politics.

00:36:37.120 We need to get people

00:36:38.100 we need to rock the

00:36:39.060 vote.

00:36:39.880 And I feel like we've

00:36:41.300 gone to the complete

00:36:42.180 opposite side of the

00:36:43.160 spectrum now where way

00:36:44.520 too many people are

00:36:45.600 engaged.

00:36:46.320 People don't know

00:36:47.060 anything about the

00:36:48.040 issues or act as if

00:36:49.920 it's the most important

00:36:50.700 thing in their life

00:36:51.320 every day.

00:36:51.940 And that's not including

00:36:53.240 18 year olds who don't

00:36:54.800 know a thing.

00:36:55.360 No.

00:36:55.860 And what about the

00:36:56.820 16 year olds, though?

00:36:58.280 They don't know a

00:36:58.860 thing.

00:36:58.960 They know less than a

00:37:00.520 thing.

00:37:01.280 In fact, we need to

00:37:02.800 raise the voting age

00:37:03.660 ever so slightly from

00:37:05.340 18 to 35.

00:37:07.680 Yeah.

00:37:09.580 Just the 17 year olds.

00:37:10.460 We're not going to

00:37:11.320 double it.

00:37:12.180 Don't be silly.

00:37:12.960 No.

00:37:13.340 I'm not talking about

00:37:14.000 doubling it.

00:37:14.600 That would be too much.

00:37:15.600 What do you think about

00:37:15.980 this proposal?

00:37:16.840 That you have to be old

00:37:19.880 enough to hold the

00:37:21.020 office to vote for it.

00:37:22.320 Right?

00:37:22.720 So you could vote for a

00:37:24.500 congressman.

00:37:25.320 Is what?

00:37:26.860 Alexander Ocasio-Cortez

00:37:27.860 is 28.

00:37:29.460 So it's 25.

00:37:30.040 So 25 and then Senate

00:37:31.500 30 and President 35.

00:37:34.700 I think I'm fine with

00:37:35.840 that.

00:37:36.260 That seems okay to me.

00:37:37.440 That doesn't sound bad.

00:37:38.740 Right.

00:37:39.040 You get a new benefit at

00:37:40.500 the polls.

00:37:41.040 Think of how exciting it

00:37:41.860 would be the first time

00:37:42.460 you get to vote for a

00:37:43.100 senator.

00:37:43.140 You can vote in local

00:37:43.960 elections at 18.

00:37:47.320 Yeah.

00:37:47.600 Right?

00:37:47.760 There you go.

00:37:48.100 For school board or

00:37:49.560 city alderman or mayor,

00:37:51.700 whatever.

00:37:52.160 You want to even lower

00:37:52.840 that one?

00:37:53.420 You could even probably

00:37:54.280 do that.

00:37:54.820 Yeah.

00:37:55.140 I'm okay with that.

00:37:55.900 If you can hold the

00:37:56.640 office, you can vote for

00:37:57.640 it.

00:37:57.700 That's a pretty good

00:37:58.220 rule of thumb, I think.

00:37:59.180 That's an easy one.

00:38:00.080 Yeah.

00:38:00.240 If you can't, if you

00:38:01.160 don't qualify to be

00:38:03.620 president, you shouldn't

00:38:04.820 be voting for president.

00:38:06.460 Yes.

00:38:07.540 I think it's a new

00:38:08.400 platform.

00:38:09.020 Yeah, you might get a

00:38:09.580 little pushback on that,

00:38:10.740 but so be it.

00:38:12.040 Notice I make that after

00:38:13.100 I turn 42 or whatever I

00:38:15.420 am.

00:38:16.000 Like at that point, that,

00:38:17.880 you know, I make that

00:38:18.520 argument now.

00:38:19.480 Yes.

00:38:19.720 But I mean, I, you know,

00:38:21.380 I guess when I was 25, I

00:38:23.340 would have been really

00:38:23.780 pissed off about this.

00:38:24.820 But then again, when did

00:38:26.620 consistency start mattering

00:38:28.480 in this society?

00:38:29.280 Right.

00:38:29.460 Would you have been

00:38:30.240 really at 25?

00:38:32.060 I know I can't vote for

00:38:33.320 him.

00:38:33.920 I can't vote in that race.

00:38:35.700 I don't know that you'd

00:38:37.040 be upset about it.

00:38:37.800 A lot of 25 year olds

00:38:38.860 don't vote anyway.

00:38:40.220 Right.

00:38:40.820 So really, we've only

00:38:41.900 seen one election in

00:38:43.220 recent memory where, you

00:38:44.820 know, the rocking of the

00:38:46.740 vote actually occurred,

00:38:48.560 which was 2008 with

00:38:49.720 Barack Obama.

00:38:50.600 I mean, he really did get

00:38:52.000 young people out to vote

00:38:53.660 more than any other.

00:38:55.100 Not in 2012.

00:38:56.580 Yeah.

00:38:56.880 In 2012, it was a pretty

00:38:57.760 more normal.

00:38:58.360 2016 was pretty normal.

00:39:00.200 2004 was pretty normal.

00:39:01.560 2000 was pretty normal.

00:39:03.580 2008 was a spike for

00:39:05.620 Barack Obama.

00:39:06.640 And you can understand

00:39:07.360 that for certain reasons.

00:39:09.260 Certainly the attention

00:39:10.220 that it, you know, from

00:39:12.200 the media was so

00:39:13.240 glorifying.

00:39:14.560 He was basically an

00:39:15.480 archangel.

00:39:16.500 So you understand why

00:39:17.280 people are like, yeah,

00:39:18.080 you know what?

00:39:18.640 I got to vote for that

00:39:19.620 guy.

00:39:20.100 Yeah.

00:39:20.300 But, you know, really, it

00:39:22.420 winds up being most people

00:39:23.620 who are young, it's not the

00:39:26.260 focus of your life at that

00:39:27.520 point.

00:39:28.000 Yeah.

00:39:28.120 It isn't.

00:39:28.720 And we've inserted it into

00:39:30.700 everybody's life as if you

00:39:32.420 have to take, you know,

00:39:33.520 strong positions on these

00:39:34.500 things before you have any

00:39:35.560 of the information to make

00:39:36.440 the decisions.

00:39:36.900 And that's a problem.

00:39:38.080 A big problem.

00:39:38.700 And here's another,

00:39:40.980 uh, here's another sports

00:39:42.560 figure jumping into the

00:39:43.980 middle of politics, Lance

00:39:45.800 Armstrong.

00:39:47.060 He is now throwing his

00:39:48.480 support behind, uh,

00:39:50.140 senatorial candidate Beto

00:39:52.560 O'Rourke.

00:39:53.340 Oh, that makes me.

00:39:54.360 The Irish American, uh,

00:39:56.860 guy with a, uh, Hispanic

00:39:58.740 nickname running against Ted

00:40:00.400 Cruz, an actual Latino.

00:40:01.840 Which is incredible.

00:40:03.540 It's incredible.

00:40:04.600 It's the weirdest thing.

00:40:05.780 Like, everybody believes

00:40:06.980 there's a Hispanic in the

00:40:07.960 race.

00:40:08.180 And it's the Irish guy.

00:40:10.260 No, he's not.

00:40:12.440 Anyway, uh, Lance Armstrong

00:40:14.320 sent out this, uh, uh,

00:40:16.620 tweet.

00:40:17.640 Dear my fellow Texans, we

00:40:19.040 have a choice.

00:40:20.180 This guy, meaning Beto

00:40:21.920 O'Rourke or Ted Cruz, it's

00:40:23.900 time for reasonable and

00:40:25.360 balanced talk on all

00:40:27.160 issues.

00:40:28.120 We are for Beto O'Rourke.

00:40:30.980 No, we are not.

00:40:34.140 You know, I've, I've been

00:40:35.860 waiting so long to be

00:40:37.580 advised by a manipulative

00:40:39.640 lying cheater.

00:40:41.320 And now finally, finally,

00:40:44.280 he stepped up to the

00:40:45.740 plate and took a swing.

00:40:47.920 Did we, did, was he

00:40:48.840 asked or is he doing this

00:40:50.280 on his own?

00:40:50.900 No, he's just doing this

00:40:51.280 on his own.

00:40:51.680 Bless his heart.

00:40:52.140 Just tweeted it out.

00:40:52.880 Wasn't that big of him?

00:40:53.740 Trying to be relevant.

00:40:54.520 That's good.

00:40:55.280 Here's a guy who lied to

00:40:57.440 us for, I don't know,

00:40:58.840 20 years.

00:40:59.640 Years.

00:41:00.180 His entire career.

00:41:02.600 And, and I made, I, I

00:41:04.280 believed him.

00:41:05.060 I did.

00:41:05.660 And I defended him over and

00:41:08.060 over and over.

00:41:10.640 And, and then he just beat

00:41:13.680 us over the head with,

00:41:14.640 nope, I lied the whole time.

00:41:15.940 Sorry.

00:41:16.680 Yeah, I destroyed anybody who

00:41:18.280 tried to say that I might've

00:41:19.840 been on steroids.

00:41:20.800 Uh, and I just, I just

00:41:22.780 ruined careers and fired

00:41:24.520 people and, uh, belittled

00:41:26.860 them and, uh, embarrassed

00:41:29.460 them.

00:41:30.480 Eh, but don't worry about

00:41:31.380 any of that.

00:41:31.960 I've been lying the whole

00:41:32.660 time.

00:41:33.200 Yeah, I did everything I

00:41:34.140 wasn't supposed to.

00:41:34.860 I broke all the rules I

00:41:35.780 wasn't supposed to just to,

00:41:37.020 just to win.

00:41:37.740 Hey, but trust me this time

00:41:39.080 on Beto O'Rourke.

00:41:40.680 Okay.

00:41:41.240 Thank you.

00:41:41.880 Is it possible he's, uh,

00:41:43.360 actually working for the

00:41:44.980 Cruz campaign?

00:41:46.700 Now that would be.

00:41:47.680 He's just kind of like,

00:41:48.640 hey, trust me, Lance

00:41:49.980 Armstrong.

00:41:51.240 Beto O'Rourke is the

00:41:52.360 right choice.

00:41:54.460 That's the way you do it.

00:41:56.000 You start hiring the most.

00:41:57.160 I wish that were true.

00:41:58.160 I wish that were true too.

00:41:59.640 That's a great idea.

00:42:01.000 You should just start

00:42:01.440 taking all the people that

00:42:03.540 are, are not trustworthy,

00:42:05.640 that no one likes.

00:42:07.180 It's like, you know,

00:42:07.900 every, and just have them

00:42:08.780 all run around Texas and

00:42:10.300 campaign for Beto and

00:42:12.140 Charlie Sheen, uh, like

00:42:14.500 any, you know, criminals,

00:42:16.520 everybody who's been

00:42:17.160 discredited.

00:42:17.900 Right.

00:42:18.120 I like that.

00:42:18.960 Yeah, I like it.

00:42:19.840 That's smart.

00:42:20.340 That's smart baseball.

00:42:21.260 Right.

00:42:21.300 You see the poll that

00:42:21.960 came out yesterday from

00:42:22.740 Emerson that had, uh, Ted

00:42:24.820 up by one point in this

00:42:26.780 race.

00:42:27.500 One point.

00:42:28.420 That is amazing.

00:42:29.300 I don't know that I buy it

00:42:30.200 now.

00:42:30.640 Well, I, it's interesting

00:42:32.200 because, uh, I saw kind of

00:42:33.900 a breakdown of this.

00:42:34.780 It was, uh, they had, they

00:42:36.960 surveyed 550, uh, voters, but

00:42:40.740 they were registered voters,

00:42:42.160 not likely voters.

00:42:43.700 Okay.

00:42:44.400 And that usually

00:42:45.860 famous Democrats.

00:42:46.860 Yeah.

00:42:47.180 That taints it a little bit.

00:42:48.380 And I do kind of buy Glenn's

00:42:49.760 analogy on this, uh, on this

00:42:51.880 race where when, when you

00:42:53.580 get in, you know, right

00:42:54.620 now when asked, you know,

00:42:56.940 about Cruz, this is a way

00:42:58.240 for, uh, Cruz fans that

00:43:00.520 work Ted Cruz fans to be

00:43:01.980 able to say, you know,

00:43:03.340 Ted, we're still mad at

00:43:04.820 you a little bit.

00:43:05.760 Yeah.

00:43:06.340 Could be that.

00:43:07.140 Could be some of that.

00:43:08.200 When you get in the booth,

00:43:08.980 you're still going to vote

00:43:09.640 for him.

00:43:10.120 I don't see, I don't see the

00:43:11.720 race being close after the

00:43:13.800 election.

00:43:14.340 You know, I think, I think

00:43:15.520 the votes Ted will win by

00:43:16.740 quite a bit.

00:43:18.340 Yeah.

00:43:18.760 You know, it's, it's

00:43:19.580 interesting.

00:43:20.180 I, I think it's going to be

00:43:21.760 fairly close.

00:43:22.920 I think you're right.

00:43:24.120 You know, the issue with

00:43:25.060 it should be a blowout.

00:43:26.660 It should be.

00:43:27.160 It's by rights.

00:43:27.940 It should be a blowout.

00:43:29.440 Yeah.

00:43:29.860 Uh, you know, with Cruz has

00:43:31.480 a situation, uh, which is

00:43:33.780 interesting in that I think

00:43:35.000 he's, he's done a pretty

00:43:37.000 good job as a Senator.

00:43:38.160 I mean, he's been, he's

00:43:39.140 been pretty consistently

00:43:39.880 conservative.

00:43:40.540 I like his voting record

00:43:41.360 quite a bit.

00:43:42.060 There's very few stances

00:43:43.220 that he's taken that I, that

00:43:44.600 I don't like.

00:43:45.740 But again, the politics

00:43:48.060 is no longer related to

00:43:50.280 policy.

00:43:51.340 All the things that we've

00:43:52.420 talked about all these

00:43:53.280 years really don't affect

00:43:54.940 the general.

00:43:56.140 I mean, they affect people

00:43:57.020 listening to the show right

00:43:57.920 now because that's what

00:43:58.580 they care about.

00:43:59.280 But the average person, it's

00:44:01.060 all about feelings and

00:44:02.120 emotion.

00:44:02.780 And for, with Cruz, he

00:44:05.300 has a weird, obviously no

00:44:07.200 one on the left likes him.

00:44:08.280 So, and everyone's excited

00:44:09.540 about, uh, Beto here in

00:44:11.160 Texas.

00:44:12.000 But on the other side of it

00:44:13.100 is you have people who

00:44:14.060 loved Trump from the

00:44:15.000 beginning who, uh, who

00:44:17.960 were pissed off at Cruz

00:44:18.880 because they obviously

00:44:19.840 fought in the primaries

00:44:20.760 and then he didn't

00:44:21.480 endorse him at the, at

00:44:22.420 the convention and

00:44:23.000 they've never really

00:44:23.500 forgiven him.

00:44:24.260 So while they might get

00:44:25.500 in there and again,

00:44:26.640 those people made

00:44:27.740 arguments to us the

00:44:28.520 entire time about it

00:44:29.440 being a binary choice.

00:44:30.620 I assume when they go

00:44:31.360 back in there, they're

00:44:31.980 going to see a binary

00:44:32.660 choice and pick Cruz.

00:44:33.940 Right.

00:44:34.340 Right.

00:44:34.580 But that doesn't mean

00:44:35.860 they're not pissed off

00:44:36.400 about it.

00:44:37.160 So they might be pissed

00:44:38.060 off that he took that

00:44:38.940 stand that time.

00:44:39.840 On the other side, the

00:44:40.960 people who are not Trump

00:44:42.560 friendly, who loved Cruz

00:44:45.100 at the beginning, were

00:44:46.940 annoyed at the way he

00:44:47.940 handled his endorsement.

00:44:49.540 And those people are

00:44:50.740 like, well, it seems like

00:44:51.760 you've kind of just become

00:44:53.340 every other senator in

00:44:55.000 Washington that does

00:44:55.820 nothing but kiss the

00:44:57.060 administration's butt.

00:44:58.520 And so those people

00:44:59.740 aren't too passionate about

00:45:01.380 it either.

00:45:01.720 But the vast majority

00:45:02.840 of those people will

00:45:03.780 also go in there and

00:45:04.900 see it as a binary choice

00:45:05.980 and pick them.

00:45:06.940 So I think in the end,

00:45:08.360 he probably wins the

00:45:09.600 race.

00:45:10.380 And it's probably a five

00:45:11.920 point type of margin.

00:45:14.240 But it's got it's

00:45:15.260 closer than it should

00:45:16.700 be, especially for

00:45:18.060 Cruz's record.

00:45:18.980 I mean, his record is

00:45:19.560 good.

00:45:20.300 His record is really

00:45:21.140 good.

00:45:21.620 It's really good.

00:45:22.560 He's done very little

00:45:23.460 incorrect on policy.

00:45:24.740 Yeah.

00:45:25.100 And for anybody who's

00:45:26.800 still pissed off about

00:45:27.640 the Trump thing, either

00:45:28.480 way, it's time to get

00:45:29.720 over that and realize

00:45:31.160 ancient history, he's

00:45:32.240 being out out raised

00:45:34.160 fundraisers two to one

00:45:36.680 by Beto O'Rourke.

00:45:38.620 It's amazing.

00:45:39.280 Two to one because all

00:45:40.960 of this out of state

00:45:42.040 money is pouring in from

00:45:43.760 California and New York

00:45:45.600 and probably Cuba and

00:45:48.060 China.

00:45:48.760 Who knows where this

00:45:50.560 socialist money is

00:45:51.620 coming from?

00:45:52.820 But it's a lot.

00:45:54.180 There's a lot of it for

00:45:55.420 Beto.

00:45:55.860 He's it.

00:45:56.340 For some reason, he's a

00:45:57.480 superstar right now.

00:45:58.440 I don't even understand

00:45:59.280 it.

00:45:59.620 They're seeing him as the

00:46:00.380 new Obama.

00:46:01.300 Yeah, he's he's he's

00:46:02.740 young.

00:46:03.260 He's a white guy.

00:46:04.740 Oh, he's Hispanic for

00:46:05.720 somebody who's not

00:46:07.060 Hispanic, by the way.

00:46:08.160 They're dying for

00:46:08.800 somebody new who's

00:46:09.760 Hispanic from Texas.

00:46:11.940 And he's not Hispanic

00:46:13.140 right now, by the way.

00:46:14.420 It's interesting because

00:46:15.640 they had this huge

00:46:17.100 article on him.

00:46:18.920 Oh, they followed him

00:46:19.940 around the other day.

00:46:20.820 They followed him

00:46:21.240 around.

00:46:21.380 They have followed that

00:46:22.280 guy around and treated

00:46:23.160 him.

00:46:23.700 They came to Texas and

00:46:25.420 followed Beto around on

00:46:26.920 his little run, march,

00:46:28.240 phone call thing with him

00:46:29.580 for days and then went

00:46:30.840 back to New York and

00:46:31.760 called Ted Cruz.

00:46:34.760 Maybe you're in Texas.

00:46:36.540 Maybe you stop by.

00:46:37.860 Yeah.

00:46:38.060 And I saw a huge, huge

00:46:39.420 article on him on some

00:46:41.720 website.

00:46:42.300 It was it was like the

00:46:44.300 eighth paragraph before it

00:46:46.320 finally said, oh, this was

00:46:47.760 the article.

00:46:48.460 This was the article that

00:46:50.140 claimed that he is

00:46:51.900 providing his rise in Texas

00:46:55.200 is providing hope for

00:46:57.160 Hispanics.

00:46:58.340 What?

00:46:59.120 Why?

00:46:59.700 Why?

00:47:00.080 Why?

00:47:00.580 So it was the Hispanic

00:47:02.520 and the racist Cruz.

00:47:03.660 Right.

00:47:04.060 Exactly.

00:47:05.020 And he's the one who

00:47:05.960 should be providing hope

00:47:06.940 to Hispanics.

00:47:08.180 However, it was the

00:47:09.160 eighth paragraph in the

00:47:10.420 story before it said,

00:47:11.860 though not Hispanic.

00:47:15.660 I love that.

00:47:17.420 Well, you know, look,

00:47:18.580 Beto, he's a young guy.

00:47:20.340 He's generally, you know,

00:47:21.440 seemingly well-spoken.

00:47:23.220 Yeah.

00:47:23.320 He's had his moments that

00:47:24.860 the left has really liked

00:47:25.680 this whole kneeling at

00:47:27.040 football games.

00:47:27.700 He gave a response to

00:47:28.500 that.

00:47:28.580 Really a bad response.

00:47:29.820 It was also a gift to

00:47:30.760 Ted Cruz.

00:47:31.420 I mean, the fact that he's

00:47:32.100 becoming famous as the guy

00:47:33.220 who doesn't like the flag is

00:47:34.460 probably a really good

00:47:35.260 development for Cruz.

00:47:36.300 I think so.

00:47:36.920 Although it's helping the

00:47:37.820 fundraising efforts of

00:47:39.380 Beto quite a bit.

00:47:40.920 But I, you know, I went to

00:47:42.160 a birthday party with my son

00:47:44.200 this weekend and one of his

00:47:45.320 friends house and we were

00:47:46.940 as I was pulling up to the

00:47:48.320 house, I saw a Ted Cruz

00:47:50.080 sign and I realized it's

00:47:51.560 the first one I've seen.

00:47:52.880 Yeah, that's the thing.

00:47:53.840 I have literally, that is

00:47:54.700 the first Ted Cruz sign I

00:47:56.580 have seen the entire time.

00:47:58.280 I have still seen a couple

00:47:58.900 bumper stickers.

00:47:59.800 Now we mock Beto's signage

00:48:01.060 all the time that we've had

00:48:02.160 25 sightings.

00:48:02.820 I saw a new one in my

00:48:03.920 neighborhood this weekend.

00:48:05.120 So there's two.

00:48:05.940 It's okay.

00:48:06.380 So I've got two in my

00:48:07.680 neighborhood as well.

00:48:08.900 And I've seen zero Ted

00:48:10.600 Cruz signage, but I chalked

00:48:12.540 that up to he's already

00:48:13.980 there.

00:48:14.440 He's the known quantity.

00:48:15.840 You know, he's not the new

00:48:17.220 guy.

00:48:17.720 He's not the exciting new

00:48:19.140 thing.

00:48:19.440 I'm not going to put a

00:48:20.400 sign in my head.

00:48:21.040 Right.

00:48:21.260 Exactly.

00:48:21.660 I'm not doing it.

00:48:22.460 Yeah, no.

00:48:23.000 But still, there usually

00:48:25.560 is, I think, candidates from

00:48:27.300 both sides.

00:48:28.060 The passion seems to be

00:48:29.460 behind Beto O'Rourke, but

00:48:31.600 you know, a passion of a

00:48:33.320 much smaller amount of

00:48:35.040 people.

00:48:36.140 But the reason why they are

00:48:38.140 making this into a big deal

00:48:39.480 is if they can turn this

00:48:42.040 state blue, it's over.

00:48:44.820 It's over forever.

00:48:46.860 If you can keep, if Texas

00:48:48.380 is blue, every national

00:48:50.820 election will go to

00:48:52.000 Democrats.

00:48:52.700 We have not.

00:48:53.420 It's about how important

00:48:54.400 it is.

00:48:54.780 We've not elected a

00:48:55.580 Democrat senator in 30

00:48:56.900 years.

00:48:57.780 So it's just too many.

00:48:59.760 Our big cities have

00:49:00.420 though.

00:49:00.820 It's our only store of

00:49:02.540 big time electoral votes

00:49:03.900 that we can depend on.

00:49:04.780 Yeah.

00:49:05.140 When it comes to the

00:49:05.760 presidential election,

00:49:06.680 Texas is it.

00:49:07.760 I mean, Florida, you can

00:49:08.740 get sometimes, sometimes you

00:49:09.680 can't get it.

00:49:10.420 You know, there's other,

00:49:11.300 you can't get California,

00:49:12.480 you can't get New York.

00:49:14.140 You know, you can get

00:49:14.720 some, you know, mid to

00:49:15.740 larger states, but you

00:49:17.820 know, I mean, even states

00:49:19.060 like Georgia are trending

00:49:20.220 the wrong direction.

00:49:21.420 But for a lot of

00:49:22.100 electorals, it's Texas.

00:49:23.720 It's Texas.

00:49:24.240 You have to have Texas

00:49:25.860 have to.

00:49:26.560 Yeah.

00:49:27.040 You lose that.

00:49:27.980 And what are you going

00:49:28.400 to, you're going to have

00:49:28.840 to pick up 10 left wing

00:49:30.240 states.

00:49:30.940 Wow.

00:49:31.160 It's, it's, it's, you

00:49:31.820 can't do it.

00:49:33.260 It's almost impossible.

00:49:35.160 And if, uh, now Cruz

00:49:37.120 losing this race does not

00:49:38.220 mean that they lose the

00:49:38.960 presidential, you know,

00:49:39.780 the presidential race goes

00:49:40.680 away.

00:49:40.900 But if they can get this

00:49:42.920 state to think,

00:49:44.140 Hey, it's okay.

00:49:44.920 It's, you know, maybe I

00:49:45.760 should vote for a Democrat

00:49:46.560 this time.

00:49:47.180 Nope.

00:49:47.720 That, you know, the,

00:49:49.240 the electoral, uh, future

00:49:51.740 of the Republican party

00:49:52.920 is bleak.

00:49:53.840 Uh, I agree with you, but

00:49:55.620 you know, our big cities

00:49:56.900 have all turned that way.

00:49:58.020 Well, yeah.

00:49:58.840 I mean, it's been that way

00:49:59.860 for a while though.

00:50:00.760 Yeah.

00:50:01.500 Triple eight, seven, two,

00:50:03.080 seven, B E C K.

00:50:04.140 It's Pat's doing Jeffy for

00:50:05.240 Glenn on the Glenn Beck

00:50:05.960 program.

00:50:08.040 It's Pat's doing Jeffy for

00:50:09.280 Glenn this week.

00:50:10.580 Triple eight, seven, two,

00:50:11.940 seven, B E C K.

00:50:13.180 Uh, David in Texas.

00:50:15.140 You're on the Glenn Beck

00:50:16.320 show.

00:50:16.620 Hi.

00:50:17.860 Hey, how's it going?

00:50:18.840 Good.

00:50:19.060 I was, I was calling in

00:50:22.780 earlier.

00:50:23.220 I was heard y'all talking

00:50:23.960 about Tucker Woods and,

00:50:25.200 and, uh, I've heard a lot

00:50:26.960 of what you've talked about

00:50:27.920 since then.

00:50:28.820 The growing up in, in

00:50:31.540 communities like, like

00:50:32.720 mine, uh, I'm, I'm a

00:50:35.300 Hispanic, half Hispanic,

00:50:36.460 half white, but I grew up

00:50:37.420 in predominantly Hispanic

00:50:38.680 and black neighborhood.

00:50:39.700 And there is a, there's an

00:50:41.460 expectation almost that

00:50:42.960 where if you, uh, if you're

00:50:46.380 mixed race or something, if

00:50:47.760 you're half Hispanic or

00:50:48.960 half black, you know, it's

00:50:50.120 like, Hey, what do you

00:50:50.740 claim?

00:50:51.800 And, you know, it's, it's

00:50:53.500 like an expectation to

00:50:54.780 like disown your, your

00:50:57.300 white parent and going,

00:51:00.080 you know, going through

00:51:00.740 that, you, I don't think

00:51:02.840 it's as bad as it once

00:51:06.580 was.

00:51:07.040 I'm 34 years old, so I

00:51:09.860 don't think it's as bad as

00:51:10.820 it was maybe 10 years ago,

00:51:12.300 but growing, you know,

00:51:14.060 coming, I think it was in

00:51:15.460 2008, I was going to vote

00:51:16.880 for Barack Obama.

00:51:17.700 I was registered to vote

00:51:19.260 by Democrats, uh, that I

00:51:21.560 knew nothing about politics

00:51:22.940 whatsoever.

00:51:24.080 And they were just like,

00:51:25.040 Hey, you got to vote for

00:51:25.740 this guy.

00:51:26.260 And here, he sounds real

00:51:27.280 good.

00:51:27.620 And if it wasn't for the

00:51:28.800 tea party, like protesting

00:51:30.880 in downtown Waco, I never

00:51:32.940 would have had a different,

00:51:34.120 a different perspective

00:51:35.720 shown to me.

00:51:36.500 And, but because of that,

00:51:38.040 um, you know, I started

00:51:39.880 learning and actually started

00:51:41.500 watching Glenn when he was

00:51:42.500 on Fox and, you know,

00:51:44.700 Glenn's show really kind of

00:51:46.160 showed, you know, it, I

00:51:47.500 helped me learn a lot more

00:51:48.820 about the history, where the

00:51:50.660 nation comes from, what, you

00:51:53.320 know, what, what, what's,

00:51:54.540 what's to the United States of

00:51:56.880 America.

00:51:57.280 And, and so that you got to

00:52:00.420 be bold enough to speak up

00:52:02.220 and say, Hey, you know, I'm

00:52:03.420 not going to disown my mother

00:52:04.660 just because, you know, you

00:52:06.500 expect me to be this purist or

00:52:08.060 something good, but it

00:52:08.760 absolutely is racism.

00:52:10.440 Yeah.

00:52:10.540 And you should, you shouldn't

00:52:11.460 have to disown your mother.

00:52:12.760 Why, why, why would anybody

00:52:15.080 expect you to do that?

00:52:16.280 It's, it's outrageous that, uh,

00:52:19.440 that's the expectation.

00:52:20.600 I don't even seriously, I don't

00:52:23.280 understand that.

00:52:24.540 How, how did we get to a place

00:52:26.180 where, um, you expect people who

00:52:29.520 are half white, half black to

00:52:31.480 just say, yeah, I'm all black or

00:52:33.140 half white, half Hispanic to say,

00:52:35.380 yeah, I'm all Hispanic.

00:52:36.620 Well, what about your other

00:52:38.220 parent?

00:52:39.140 You just, you just ignore them.

00:52:41.420 You just forgot about them.

00:52:42.700 They don't exist.

00:52:43.540 That's certainly what we saw

00:52:44.180 with Barack Obama, right?

00:52:45.460 I mean, you know, it's exactly

00:52:46.660 what we saw with him.

00:52:47.780 If you noted that he happened

00:52:49.960 to be mixed race, you would,

00:52:51.560 Oh, that's racist.

00:52:52.500 Racist.

00:52:54.000 How?

00:52:54.780 Again, like I, it's not an

00:52:56.860 important thing to discuss per

00:52:58.900 se, but I mean, it was to him.

00:53:00.600 The left is constantly bringing

00:53:02.000 it up.

00:53:02.360 Barack Obama was constantly

00:53:03.740 brought it up.

00:53:04.740 He was, you know, there's an

00:53:05.800 obsession with race in this

00:53:08.300 country.

00:53:08.660 An obsession.

00:53:09.140 Everyone's like, Oh, we need

00:53:09.920 to have a conversation about

00:53:11.160 race.

00:53:11.540 The last thing we need is

00:53:12.540 another freaking conversation

00:53:13.700 about race.

00:53:14.380 It's all we've been talking

00:53:15.680 about.

00:53:16.180 It's all we talk about all

00:53:17.920 the time.

00:53:19.020 When do we got to have a

00:53:20.320 conversation?

00:53:21.100 When haven't we had the

00:53:22.340 conversation?

00:53:23.260 Yeah.

00:53:23.680 I mean, it's, it's just

00:53:24.920 ridiculous and it's never

00:53:26.240 ending.

00:53:26.540 We do not need another

00:53:28.100 conversation about it.

00:53:29.180 People should just get over

00:53:30.160 it and realize that, you

00:53:32.200 know, there's other more

00:53:33.160 important things about a

00:53:33.920 person.

00:53:34.600 Period.

00:53:35.000 You're listening to the

00:53:42.580 Glenn Beck program.

00:53:44.260 Pat Stewart, Jeffy for

00:53:45.700 Glenn this week.

00:53:47.600 A lot of people outraged

00:53:50.120 about the president and his

00:53:53.780 response to the death of John

00:53:55.840 McCain.

00:53:56.680 The left who cherished,

00:53:59.300 cherished John McCain.

00:54:01.600 They've always loved him.

00:54:02.860 Oh, my.

00:54:04.280 Do you remember during 2008

00:54:05.560 when they supported him so

00:54:06.820 strongly against Barack Obama?

00:54:08.260 They just loved him and they

00:54:10.220 wanted him to win and they

00:54:11.360 tried to help, but they I

00:54:13.140 couldn't quite get him across

00:54:14.280 the finish line.

00:54:15.440 Yeah.

00:54:15.860 By calling him one of the

00:54:17.540 biggest racists in the world.

00:54:18.880 Yeah.

00:54:19.560 Lying about how he wanted to

00:54:20.780 stay in Iraq for a hundred

00:54:21.920 years.

00:54:24.020 Basically saying he was one of

00:54:25.860 the most evil people ever

00:54:27.180 born and grew up to be even

00:54:29.800 more evil than expected.

00:54:30.600 And by the way, he might not

00:54:31.600 even be eligible for office.

00:54:34.260 He was born in Panama, this

00:54:35.820 guy.

00:54:36.980 Oh, my gosh.

00:54:37.540 I forgot about that.

00:54:38.380 Yeah.

00:54:39.060 It was they who brought that

00:54:40.560 up.

00:54:40.820 Yeah.

00:54:41.620 He wasn't even born in America.

00:54:43.900 And then he chose Sarah Palin

00:54:45.460 to be the vice presidential

00:54:46.840 candidate.

00:54:47.200 It shows how horrible he is.

00:54:48.320 Nothing worse could have ever

00:54:49.280 happened.

00:54:50.000 What a horrible, horrible person

00:54:51.480 to have chosen Sarah Palin

00:54:53.660 because what an extremist.

00:54:55.920 And we said this at the time.

00:54:57.120 I mean, this goes back years

00:54:58.100 and years and years now, but

00:54:59.160 it was the point is John

00:55:01.220 McCain loves the media

00:55:02.820 and he kissed the butt of the

00:55:04.680 media for decades.

00:55:06.460 Yep.

00:55:06.700 And kept saying, go on to go

00:55:08.820 on MSNBC all the time and say

00:55:10.300 how bad the the Republicans

00:55:13.060 were.

00:55:13.720 And he explained it.

00:55:14.880 He'd be that maverick.

00:55:15.900 And I think he legitimately

00:55:17.400 expected talk radio, the media

00:55:19.840 to say, you know what?

00:55:21.400 Here's that one rational

00:55:22.560 Republican and we're not going

00:55:23.680 to bash him.

00:55:24.560 The second he was running for

00:55:26.040 president, they all turned on

00:55:27.800 second.

00:55:28.140 He got the nomination.

00:55:29.000 Yep.

00:55:29.340 They all over.

00:55:30.100 They all turned on him.

00:55:31.040 They trashed him constantly

00:55:32.340 until he conceded

00:55:34.820 when he conceded the race from

00:55:37.000 that moment forward.

00:55:38.200 Now he's been praised.

00:55:39.680 Yeah.

00:55:39.940 In fact, when they've been doing

00:55:41.000 because he's a maverick.

00:55:41.860 Yeah, he's a maverick.

00:55:42.440 When they've been doing these

00:55:43.440 retrospectives on him, what the

00:55:45.760 things they've been citing are

00:55:47.200 his the biggest thing they

00:55:48.800 cite is his concession speech

00:55:50.300 to a Barack Obama because he

00:55:51.520 basically said, hey, we should

00:55:52.640 come together.

00:55:53.140 And it's still, you know, even

00:55:54.300 though I lost, it's still our

00:55:55.380 president, which, again, is a

00:55:57.020 good sentiment.

00:55:57.840 And it's a sentiment that

00:55:58.740 everybody says, I mean, you

00:56:01.080 know, the only again, like

00:56:02.300 Trump kind of turned that one

00:56:03.540 upside down.

00:56:04.260 He's basically saying that if he

00:56:05.940 lost, he might have problems

00:56:07.540 with it, but he didn't lose.

00:56:09.180 So we haven't seen anybody

00:56:10.340 do anything other than that.

00:56:12.440 Right.

00:56:12.800 Even Hillary Clinton came out

00:56:14.680 after the election was like,

00:56:15.640 look, you know, this is if we

00:56:16.720 have a we, you know, we have

00:56:19.200 peaceful transfers of power.

00:56:20.960 Right.

00:56:22.040 I mean, you know, she's been

00:56:22.800 obviously terrible on many

00:56:24.320 other issues, but that's a

00:56:25.700 pretty basic one for a

00:56:27.540 politician in the United

00:56:28.460 States.

00:56:29.360 And so they so they went with

00:56:30.700 that and they said that was

00:56:31.400 tremendous.

00:56:31.720 They said when someone in a

00:56:33.860 town hall called Barack Obama

00:56:36.300 an Arab, he said, no, he's not.

00:56:38.440 He's a good person.

00:56:39.140 We just disagree.

00:56:39.880 So I keep playing that one over

00:56:41.000 again.

00:56:41.220 And again, that's a good

00:56:42.280 sentiment.

00:56:42.780 He's obviously correct on that

00:56:44.220 one.

00:56:44.560 He was right.

00:56:45.600 And it was a good thing to

00:56:46.780 call out.

00:56:47.260 But I mean, the guy has been

00:56:49.100 in an office for 40 years.

00:56:51.080 The moments you're picking are

00:56:52.100 all moments that he just

00:56:53.360 agrees with the Democrats.

00:56:54.400 Right.

00:56:54.680 And the talk radio thing and

00:56:56.340 the talk radio thing is the

00:56:57.040 third one.

00:56:57.380 Yeah.

00:56:57.960 He bashed talk radio and said

00:56:59.260 it was, you know, what

00:57:00.340 would they love?

00:57:00.960 Oh, my gosh.

00:57:01.580 And they love that.

00:57:02.580 Loved it.

00:57:03.240 Yeah.

00:57:03.420 Of course they love it.

00:57:04.640 Yeah.

00:57:04.800 When a Republican agrees with

00:57:05.980 a Democrat, he's just a

00:57:07.540 Democrat.

00:57:08.580 Right.

00:57:09.400 Just because you have an R after

00:57:10.920 your name and you say thing

00:57:12.040 again, and this is not every

00:57:13.460 vote of John McCain's.

00:57:14.780 I mean, you can go back and

00:57:15.400 find he voted with President

00:57:16.800 Trump over 83 percent of the

00:57:18.460 time.

00:57:19.060 This is not a guy who was

00:57:20.240 constantly opposing him.

00:57:22.820 He was with him on most

00:57:23.600 issues.

00:57:23.860 And if you look at back at the

00:57:25.160 issues he voted against Trump

00:57:26.520 on, it's stuff like raising the

00:57:27.880 debt limit.

00:57:29.240 And we all remember the health

00:57:30.200 care thing, which was an issue.

00:57:31.820 It shouldn't be.

00:57:32.680 Health care was was probably the

00:57:33.980 biggest biggest one.

00:57:34.900 However, you can't overblow

00:57:36.800 that one.

00:57:37.580 There was almost no chance of

00:57:39.460 that succeeding.

00:57:40.360 It was a Hail Mary pass.

00:57:41.760 And you know what?

00:57:42.900 You don't when you're when

00:57:43.740 you're down by four points in

00:57:45.340 the last seconds of a

00:57:46.760 football game, you don't take

00:57:47.860 a knee, which is essentially

00:57:49.200 what McCain did as opposed

00:57:50.700 to throwing into the end

00:57:51.580 zone.

00:57:51.800 But the chance of success was

00:57:53.060 so low on that because

00:57:55.080 and we can go back and

00:57:56.840 rehash the whole health care

00:57:57.660 thing.

00:57:57.900 But if you remember correctly,

00:57:59.240 it was the skinny repeal and

00:58:01.060 it was it was basically an

00:58:02.340 empty shell bill that they had

00:58:03.740 to build afterwards with

00:58:05.140 the house.

00:58:05.680 They were even close to

00:58:07.280 agreeing on what was

00:58:07.920 supposed to go into it.

00:58:09.000 There was almost no chance

00:58:10.280 of that succeeding.

00:58:11.340 I would have really liked if

00:58:12.460 he voted yes.

00:58:13.060 And then we gave it a

00:58:13.800 chance, but there was almost

00:58:15.120 no chance of that.

00:58:15.800 I'm glad you got to that

00:58:16.900 point because you better not

00:58:17.560 be saying anything bad about

00:58:18.560 John McCain.

00:58:19.280 I'm not my friend.

00:58:20.720 I'm not.

00:58:21.360 But how about the Iraq?

00:58:22.200 How about the surge?

00:58:23.460 Right.

00:58:23.980 He strongly supported the

00:58:25.900 surge in Iraq.

00:58:26.780 Did he get any breaks from

00:58:28.120 the media on that one?

00:58:28.980 Nope.

00:58:29.220 Nope.

00:58:29.460 No, he was trashed

00:58:30.840 constantly.

00:58:31.420 We talked about the hundred

00:58:32.240 years quote where he's going

00:58:33.420 to stay in Iraq for a hundred

00:58:34.660 years.

00:58:34.960 They made him look insane.

00:58:36.300 Yeah, right.

00:58:37.020 He was not saying that at all.

00:58:38.720 And they pinned the economy,

00:58:39.920 the bad economy on him.

00:58:40.960 Yeah.

00:58:41.640 When it wasn't him.

00:58:42.760 Nope.

00:58:43.140 That wasn't his deal.

00:58:44.540 That's right.

00:58:44.860 So this new outrage because

00:58:49.000 Trump didn't say enough, didn't

00:58:50.960 say the right things, lowered the

00:58:52.960 flag, then raised it back up.

00:58:54.600 And now they're so angry.

00:58:56.300 It was interesting to watch

00:58:57.660 Brooke Baldwin, who, you know,

00:58:58.960 she just absolutely admired and

00:59:01.060 loved.

00:59:01.780 Of course.

00:59:02.580 John McCain.

00:59:03.220 You know, she did on CNN.

00:59:05.780 She was outraged.

00:59:07.460 You know, just I think to watch

00:59:10.020 the president, you know, I saw the

00:59:11.940 flag pictures this morning from the

00:59:13.120 White House.

00:59:13.580 But just to watch the president

00:59:15.120 with President Kenyatta of Kenya

00:59:16.380 twice, you know, not saying

00:59:20.440 anything, anything about this

00:59:24.300 hero, this lion of a man.

00:59:26.840 Lion of a man.

00:59:27.900 Oh, my gosh.

00:59:28.820 It's despicable.

00:59:30.280 It's despicable.

00:59:31.340 OK, are you are you a news

00:59:32.880 person?

00:59:33.400 Are you a journalist?

00:59:34.740 Yeah.

00:59:35.260 What the where's the objectivity

00:59:37.500 here at all?

00:59:38.840 It's despicable.

00:59:40.080 Wow.

00:59:40.480 Now, you can say that as an

00:59:41.900 opinion person.

00:59:42.640 Is that maybe Brooke Baldwin?

00:59:44.100 Is that I don't know?

00:59:45.100 I don't know that much about

00:59:46.180 her.

00:59:46.360 But I mean, is that something that

00:59:47.600 should be on CNN?

00:59:48.280 You're calling the president

00:59:49.760 despicable.

00:59:50.560 Is that really something you should

00:59:51.840 be doing?

00:59:52.540 And Tom Brokaw said something very

00:59:55.280 similar.

00:59:55.960 Despicable, disgusting, something to

00:59:57.980 that effect.

00:59:59.300 I mean, they're all just breaking

01:00:01.080 down and letting it go.

01:00:03.420 What?

01:00:04.680 No, I was just waiting for Tom

01:00:05.820 Brokaw.

01:00:06.580 No, I was just there was no Tom

01:00:08.120 Brokaw.

01:00:08.420 It's possible we mentioned Tom

01:00:10.060 Brokaw.

01:00:10.660 Well, there were no L's in what

01:00:12.180 he said.

01:00:12.740 OK, so there's no impression.

01:00:14.760 If he would have said despicable,

01:00:15.980 it would have been despicable.

01:00:20.520 But he's I think he said

01:00:21.740 disgusting.

01:00:22.460 So it didn't really work.

01:00:23.740 It's just a it's so fake.

01:00:26.060 Right.

01:00:26.240 And it's it's so fake

01:00:27.880 outrage.

01:00:28.220 It's just fake outrage.

01:00:29.740 And that's the big thing.

01:00:30.620 And that's what Glenn's new book

01:00:32.180 is about.

01:00:32.840 It's about the addiction to

01:00:34.680 outrage.

01:00:35.100 And you see this all the time

01:00:36.260 on the left.

01:00:36.720 I would we should get a hashtag

01:00:38.820 going.

01:00:39.900 But, you know, I get to the

01:00:41.180 outrage and send us your

01:00:42.620 examples of the left

01:00:44.620 freaking out over nothing.

01:00:46.320 I mean, we have a stack of

01:00:47.600 them here.

01:00:48.140 You know, a guy who was the

01:00:49.980 president of the Humanist

01:00:52.160 Students Association.

01:00:54.540 Love that association.

01:00:55.480 He has to.

01:00:56.600 He is resigned.

01:00:57.860 Why?

01:00:58.420 Because he retweeted this.

01:00:59.940 The following tweet.

01:01:01.820 RT, if women don't have

01:01:03.920 penises.

01:01:05.100 If you agree with the idea

01:01:08.800 that women do not have

01:01:10.560 retweet penises, retweet

01:01:12.600 that you should retweet

01:01:14.060 that because of that tweet,

01:01:15.640 he had to resign.

01:01:16.740 What?

01:01:18.200 Wow.

01:01:18.900 Men are now.

01:01:19.900 Yeah, I know.

01:01:21.340 Again, I would like it's a

01:01:22.500 Humanist guy.

01:01:23.520 I know none of us would agree

01:01:24.740 with him on anything except

01:01:25.860 for the fact that women don't

01:01:27.100 have penises.

01:01:28.100 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,

01:01:29.580 whoa.

01:01:29.840 On some of Jeffy's sites,

01:01:31.340 they do.

01:01:31.600 But that's a totally different

01:01:32.640 totally different situation.

01:01:34.140 And again, like if you find

01:01:35.980 stories like this, send them

01:01:37.000 to us, tweet them at

01:01:38.220 World of Sue, at Glenn Beck,

01:01:39.160 but use the hashtag

01:01:39.960 Addicted to Outrage because

01:01:41.540 I want to make a huge

01:01:42.240 collection of these.

01:01:43.140 Where do you send them?

01:01:44.400 You can go on Twitter,

01:01:45.280 just hashtag Addicted to

01:01:46.800 Outrage.

01:01:47.400 All right.

01:01:47.900 How about this?

01:01:48.840 People paying, men are

01:01:50.100 paying $895 at a male

01:01:52.960 feminism camp to cope with

01:01:55.520 their own toxicity.

01:01:56.880 Oh gosh.

01:01:57.380 This is our world.

01:01:59.300 It's really bad.

01:02:00.760 Professors get $248,000 in a

01:02:04.020 grant to study gender

01:02:05.540 microaggressions.

01:02:07.860 A university has banned

01:02:09.580 snowball fights and water

01:02:11.520 guns.

01:02:12.200 You can't have that.

01:02:13.360 These are like, how many

01:02:14.280 people have been killed in

01:02:15.220 snowball fights over the

01:02:16.560 years?

01:02:16.980 Well, water gun fights.

01:02:18.140 I will say I saw the

01:02:18.980 documentary Elf and it did

01:02:20.340 look dangerous in that

01:02:21.640 particular film.

01:02:22.540 People got pummeled.

01:02:23.220 Pummeled at long distances.

01:02:24.800 But again, these things are

01:02:26.880 all over the place.

01:02:28.920 Progressives are constantly

01:02:30.580 jumping down these roads

01:02:32.440 because they want to pull

01:02:34.000 you over.

01:02:34.460 They feel like they can

01:02:35.500 intimidate you into silence

01:02:36.940 if everything you do you

01:02:38.620 have to feel bad for.

01:02:40.040 So then you just don't do

01:02:40.860 anything.

01:02:41.960 And that's a terrible way to

01:02:43.120 go.

01:02:44.340 So if you have any of these

01:02:45.940 stories, hashtag Addicted

01:02:47.700 to Outrage on Twitter.

01:02:49.380 You can find us on Twitter,

01:02:50.280 by the way, at World of Stew,

01:02:52.080 at Pat Unleashed.

01:02:53.380 At Jeffy MRA.

01:02:54.440 Thank you.

01:02:55.600 And I would love to go

01:02:57.280 through because these things

01:02:58.560 pop up all the time.

01:03:00.420 Yeah, they do.

01:03:00.780 Every day you can find a

01:03:02.240 batch of stories where

01:03:03.180 people have to deal with

01:03:05.540 something.

01:03:05.940 This is, you know, going

01:03:07.320 back to the issue where,

01:03:08.700 you know, Santa Claus is on

01:03:10.600 the town square and people

01:03:12.400 get all freaked out about

01:03:13.660 it.

01:03:14.340 There's not a real outrage

01:03:15.720 there.

01:03:16.280 Everyone knows there's not a

01:03:17.340 real outrage there, but we

01:03:18.240 fake it.

01:03:19.020 We act as if something

01:03:20.640 terrible has happened to,

01:03:22.600 I don't know, make us feel

01:03:23.700 alive.

01:03:24.700 I don't know if we're,

01:03:25.800 maybe society, maybe our

01:03:27.660 lives are so cushy now that

01:03:28.920 we can all find food and we

01:03:31.160 have shelter and the

01:03:32.540 temperature is 72 degrees

01:03:33.740 every day that we can't find

01:03:34.920 anything real to freak out

01:03:36.020 about.

01:03:36.260 But there's plenty in the

01:03:37.000 world to freak out about

01:03:37.860 that's real.

01:03:39.160 You know, I mean, you know,

01:03:40.040 Christians are being killed

01:03:41.560 all over the Middle East.

01:03:43.240 You know, Muslims are being

01:03:44.620 put into death camps in China

01:03:46.600 as we speak.

01:03:47.820 North Korea.

01:03:48.820 Only a million, though.

01:03:49.760 Only a million.

01:03:50.600 I mean, that's a small

01:03:51.680 percentage of all the people

01:03:53.180 in China.

01:03:54.180 Granted.

01:03:54.560 That's not very many when

01:03:56.180 you think about it.

01:03:56.920 Right.

01:03:57.380 Out of 1.4 billion?

01:03:59.240 Yeah.

01:04:00.180 That's less than 1%.

01:04:01.620 Nobody's ever going to

01:04:02.880 notice it.

01:04:03.400 No, you're not even going to

01:04:04.220 notice.

01:04:04.840 Scary things are approaching

01:04:06.160 in South Africa, for

01:04:08.380 example.

01:04:08.880 Another big one.

01:04:09.860 Right.

01:04:10.140 You know, there's stuff all

01:04:12.180 over the world.

01:04:12.620 See what you will about that

01:04:13.740 too, by the way, on the

01:04:14.820 South African front.

01:04:15.820 Yeah, sure.

01:04:15.980 That there isn't any

01:04:17.560 genocide happening, and

01:04:18.800 we acknowledge, yeah, that

01:04:21.040 there doesn't seem to be

01:04:22.040 evidence of that.

01:04:23.420 But there is, it's a fact

01:04:25.840 that they are changing

01:04:27.120 their constitution so that

01:04:28.360 they can confiscate white

01:04:30.000 farmers' farms without

01:04:32.040 compensation.

01:04:32.340 And the hatred is brewing.

01:04:33.940 I mean, it's brewing.

01:04:34.200 And the hatred is brewing.

01:04:35.920 Yeah.

01:04:36.080 So it is definitely something

01:04:37.580 to keep an eye on.

01:04:38.600 It may not be an out-of-control

01:04:41.500 situation, but that's pretty,

01:04:43.300 it's a troubling one.

01:04:44.940 Yeah.

01:04:45.180 When you're going to take

01:04:46.120 people's farms without any

01:04:47.480 compensation.

01:04:48.420 The really understandable

01:04:51.560 confusion here, obviously,

01:04:53.240 other than the fact that

01:04:54.140 it's difficult to cover

01:04:55.140 these stories in these

01:04:56.540 areas, is that just the

01:04:59.220 general crime rate is so

01:05:01.620 bad in South Africa.

01:05:03.460 It has one of the top five

01:05:04.720 or ten murder rates in the

01:05:06.200 world.

01:05:07.200 And it's not all white

01:05:08.020 farmers getting killed.

01:05:09.100 No.

01:05:09.340 It's everybody getting killed

01:05:10.560 everywhere.

01:05:11.320 Yeah, blacks, whites.

01:05:11.900 It's not just the rural

01:05:12.700 areas.

01:05:13.200 It's urban areas.

01:05:14.140 It's a really bad situation

01:05:15.680 that they cannot seem to

01:05:16.800 control.

01:05:17.380 Johannesburg is not a safe

01:05:18.300 town.

01:05:18.640 No.

01:05:19.120 I mean, really, it's not.

01:05:21.680 And so I would really

01:05:22.780 encourage you to go to, if

01:05:23.820 you go to the Blaze and

01:05:24.640 read Leon Wolf's column

01:05:26.720 about this as he goes over

01:05:28.020 all of the sort of different

01:05:29.960 arguments and points about

01:05:31.200 this, because there's a lot

01:05:31.820 of people out there with,

01:05:32.660 you know, sort of agendas

01:05:33.340 pushing one side of the

01:05:34.740 argument or another.

01:05:35.320 And the media right now is

01:05:35.960 pushing, what are you

01:05:36.760 talking about, South Africa?

01:05:37.660 I think everything's perfect

01:05:38.560 there.

01:05:38.780 It's basically Beverly Hills

01:05:40.260 and, you know, the all sort

01:05:41.800 of right people are saying,

01:05:42.940 you know, it's white genocide

01:05:43.940 all over the place.

01:05:44.940 Neither are true.

01:05:45.600 Right.

01:05:45.800 When you look at it, you see

01:05:47.320 a lot of nuance in there

01:05:49.100 and he explains it really

01:05:50.080 well.

01:05:50.480 We did a segment as well

01:05:51.820 earlier this week.

01:05:52.460 If you want to go on the

01:05:52.880 podcast, you can hear that

01:05:54.240 as well.

01:05:55.180 Or actually, it was last

01:05:56.080 week with Glenn.

01:05:57.000 He did it.

01:05:57.960 It's just important to

01:05:58.840 understand where these

01:06:00.120 claims are coming from and

01:06:00.920 what they mean, because

01:06:01.600 look, there are real, there's

01:06:02.760 real violence going on

01:06:03.860 there.

01:06:04.180 It's just oddly more like

01:06:05.940 general violence.

01:06:07.000 And so, and white farmers

01:06:08.700 have been the subject of

01:06:10.440 that violence, but not

01:06:11.220 exclusively and not at a

01:06:12.760 real high rate as relative

01:06:14.420 to the rest of the

01:06:15.020 population.

01:06:16.340 Although if it happened to

01:06:17.660 your family, it's pretty

01:06:18.420 high rate.

01:06:19.040 Oh, yeah.

01:06:19.620 You know?

01:06:20.100 Yeah.

01:06:20.400 I mean, I think it's

01:06:21.280 pretty bad.

01:06:21.920 It's not nothing.

01:06:22.860 And I think the media

01:06:23.660 father got killed in front

01:06:25.260 of, you know, a five

01:06:27.060 year old girl.

01:06:28.100 And that apparently

01:06:29.380 happened, according to

01:06:31.180 documentarians.

01:06:33.220 That's a pretty high rate

01:06:34.300 for that family.

01:06:35.000 God, I mean, it's

01:06:35.500 devastating.

01:06:36.160 Yeah.

01:06:36.880 And this is a problem

01:06:37.960 with the media in that

01:06:39.600 because Donald Trump, I

01:06:41.160 guess, tweeted about it.

01:06:42.240 Now they have to be

01:06:43.420 against whatever he

01:06:44.320 tweeted.

01:06:44.820 Right.

01:06:45.080 So what he tweeted was it

01:06:46.140 was bad there and he wants

01:06:47.440 to look into it.

01:06:48.120 And actually, you know,

01:06:48.760 kind of as you pointed out

01:06:49.560 on the news and why it

01:06:50.340 matters the other day,

01:06:50.880 Pat, you know, he

01:06:51.320 basically just said, we

01:06:52.060 want to look into it.

01:06:52.760 We want to see what's

01:06:53.280 going on there.

01:06:53.820 And that's a totally,

01:06:54.540 that's what he should be

01:06:55.120 doing.

01:06:55.720 Right.

01:06:56.160 Like, we should get more

01:06:57.040 information.

01:06:58.600 But the media is now

01:07:00.220 dismissing it because they

01:07:01.640 want to make him look bad.

01:07:03.540 In reality, there's a

01:07:04.960 really big problem going

01:07:06.480 on there.

01:07:07.000 Huge crime problem.

01:07:08.800 The government is

01:07:10.200 preparing to take land

01:07:12.040 from people who, some

01:07:14.120 people who have owned it

01:07:15.240 for a really long time.

01:07:16.520 In some cases, 400

01:07:17.600 years.

01:07:18.100 Right, yeah.

01:07:18.660 Some have come upon it

01:07:19.460 more recently and that's

01:07:20.300 where I think, you know,

01:07:21.280 the disagreement comes.

01:07:22.780 But the issue here, I

01:07:24.120 think, is interesting in

01:07:26.440 that you have outrage on

01:07:28.740 both sides.

01:07:30.080 You have complete outrage

01:07:31.100 on both sides.

01:07:31.800 You have people who are

01:07:32.720 saying it's, you know,

01:07:33.480 they're going to wipe out

01:07:34.160 every white person there

01:07:35.360 and you have people who

01:07:36.300 say nothing's going on

01:07:37.440 and they're outraged at

01:07:38.440 the president for tweeting

01:07:39.400 about it.

01:07:40.060 And in the middle, and not

01:07:42.080 in the middle politically,

01:07:43.120 in the middle of two people,

01:07:45.000 groups of outrage, are a

01:07:46.580 bunch of people saying, I

01:07:47.400 would really like to know

01:07:48.040 the facts.

01:07:48.540 In this particular case,

01:07:49.500 it seems like Trump is

01:07:50.200 one of those people.

01:07:51.000 Where he's saying, like,

01:07:51.540 let's look into it.

01:07:52.720 I want to look into this.

01:07:53.540 This looks important.

01:07:54.120 Study it.

01:07:54.980 So that is, yeah.

01:07:56.380 It's reasonable.

01:07:56.980 It's a reasonable approach.

01:07:58.620 He didn't call it genocide.

01:07:59.860 He said, I have asked my

01:08:02.640 secretary to look into this.

01:08:05.500 Yeah.

01:08:06.080 Okay.

01:08:06.400 We should.

01:08:07.420 Thank you.

01:08:07.840 That's ridiculous?

01:08:08.620 We should, because there

01:08:09.060 hasn't been a lot of good

01:08:09.860 reporting on it.

01:08:10.740 Right.

01:08:10.880 You know, it's only been

01:08:11.520 recent that people have

01:08:12.760 actually looked into this

01:08:13.720 with any sort of, you know,

01:08:16.520 resources.

01:08:17.400 Well, I mean, that's the

01:08:18.580 Brook Baldwins of the

01:08:19.520 world, though, right?

01:08:20.080 He says something, it's

01:08:21.480 wrong.

01:08:21.960 He doesn't say something,

01:08:23.000 it's wrong.

01:08:23.760 Yep.

01:08:24.040 Okay.

01:08:24.280 I got it.

01:08:24.800 Thanks, bro.

01:08:25.640 888-727-BECK.

01:08:27.820 It's Pat, Stu, and Jeffy

01:08:29.200 for Glenn this week.

01:08:34.740 It's Pat, Stu, and Jeffy

01:08:36.040 for Glenn on the Glenn Beck

01:08:37.580 program.

01:08:39.260 888-727-BECK.

01:08:41.940 Did you see the list of

01:08:44.880 people that are going to be

01:08:46.600 participating in John

01:08:47.560 McCain's funeral?

01:08:49.160 It's a pretty diverse group

01:08:51.180 of people.

01:08:52.480 Warren Beatty, I guess, is a

01:08:54.180 close friend.

01:08:55.880 Joe Biden, Gary Hart, Phil

01:08:58.580 Graham, Russ Feingold, Henry

01:09:02.040 Kissinger, Barack Obama,

01:09:04.880 George W. Bush will be there,

01:09:06.320 Lindsey Graham, Joe Lieberman,

01:09:08.280 Michael Bloomberg.

01:09:09.600 It's a diverse group.

01:09:10.620 It is.

01:09:11.260 Yeah.

01:09:12.220 He got along with a diverse

01:09:13.740 group of people.

01:09:14.680 Well, the Maverick.

01:09:15.940 Yeah, he was definitely a

01:09:17.540 Maverick.

01:09:18.260 Yes.

01:09:20.820 Glenn Beck.

01:09:22.480 Pat, Stu, and Jeffy for

01:09:23.900 Glenn this week.

01:09:24.920 You know, the main story on

01:09:29.180 this latest Catholic scandal,

01:09:33.100 the main telling of the story

01:09:35.120 seems to be how could they let

01:09:37.100 it happen again?

01:09:37.780 How could this have happened

01:09:39.060 all over again after what

01:09:41.020 happened in 2002?

01:09:43.260 They didn't clean their house.

01:09:45.060 They didn't get this mess fixed.

01:09:47.260 They did nothing, essentially.

01:09:50.400 That seems to be the narrative.

01:09:52.500 Yeah, and I've seen so many

01:09:53.300 Catholics who are like, look,

01:09:55.160 I stuck with the church after

01:09:57.360 the last time in 2002, even

01:09:58.840 though it was really hard, and I

01:10:00.040 really hated what I knew

01:10:02.140 happened.

01:10:02.640 But this time, I can't do it.

01:10:05.880 I'm done defending them.

01:10:07.580 You know, this is unacceptable.

01:10:10.600 And I think that's an

01:10:11.300 understandable instinct, honestly,

01:10:13.120 by the way.

01:10:13.660 Based on the way it's been

01:10:14.460 presented.

01:10:14.860 Yeah.

01:10:15.360 Yeah.

01:10:15.740 So, if you don't know, the

01:10:16.980 story was from Pennsylvania where

01:10:18.420 they showed in excruciating detail

01:10:21.100 that 300 priests abused 1,000

01:10:23.560 children.

01:10:24.500 Over 70 years.

01:10:25.740 Oh, my gosh.

01:10:26.520 Awful.

01:10:27.540 So, has the coverage actually

01:10:28.980 been accurate about this story?

01:10:30.220 Because it's uncomfortable to

01:10:31.300 kind of talk about it because you

01:10:32.540 don't want to seem like you're

01:10:33.380 like excusing any abuse, and

01:10:35.320 there's no excuse for it.

01:10:36.580 It's all horrible.

01:10:39.680 In some ways, the coverage has

01:10:40.820 actually been too generous.

01:10:42.220 For example, the number of 1,000

01:10:43.440 children is 100%.

01:10:45.380 We're 100% sure that's too low.

01:10:48.560 First of all, the report only dealt

01:10:50.220 with 54 of the 67 counties.

01:10:52.960 So, there's 13 counties in

01:10:54.560 Pennsylvania they didn't even look

01:10:55.600 at.

01:10:56.380 So, we know there's more kids.

01:10:57.900 They also said they believe the

01:10:59.080 real number of children whose

01:11:00.740 records were lost or who were

01:11:02.360 afraid to come forward is in the

01:11:03.920 thousands.

01:11:05.020 So, they think the numbers are

01:11:06.260 much worse.

01:11:07.900 But the question is, what do we

01:11:10.920 learn from this scandal?

01:11:13.300 Yeah.

01:11:13.560 And how did the Catholic Church not

01:11:15.100 learn from the scandal when it hit

01:11:16.680 in 2002?

01:11:17.540 How did they not fix this?

01:11:18.620 So, what did we know before?

01:11:19.580 We knew that it was really bad.

01:11:20.900 We knew that way too many priests

01:11:23.180 were doing terrible, terrible

01:11:24.540 things.

01:11:25.340 We knew that the church handled it

01:11:27.340 horribly for many, many years.

01:11:29.680 And then in 2002, the Boston Globe

01:11:32.720 and others report on the abuse

01:11:35.580 cycle and all, you know, the

01:11:37.060 details.

01:11:37.600 They break the story.

01:11:38.580 This turns into the huge scandal.

01:11:40.460 And we all know about that.

01:11:42.260 They make a movie about it.

01:11:43.420 You know, Spotlight.

01:11:44.180 It wins Best Picture because

01:11:45.300 that's what happens when you make

01:11:46.480 movies about how evil the church is

01:11:49.200 and how good journalists are.

01:11:50.300 You win Best Picture.

01:11:52.160 That's what happens.

01:11:53.360 I love the fact that that movie came

01:11:55.440 out in 2015.

01:11:56.720 That's tremendous.

01:11:57.300 2015.

01:11:58.480 Two years before Chappaquiddick comes

01:12:01.900 out.

01:12:03.780 Like, Ted Kennedy died of old age.

01:12:07.700 It took him so long to make a movie

01:12:09.000 about that.

01:12:10.340 Well, that's why.

01:12:11.100 I think they waited until Kennedy was gone.

01:12:13.280 I think you're right.

01:12:14.120 I mean, Kate Mara, who played Mary Jo

01:12:16.380 Kopechny, wasn't born until 14 years

01:12:19.840 after the incident.

01:12:21.460 14 years later, she was born and she

01:12:24.580 grew up to be the exact right age to

01:12:26.660 play Mary Jo Kopechny.

01:12:27.740 Wow.

01:12:28.080 Where, you know, Spotlight happens in

01:12:30.120 2002.

01:12:30.760 In 2015, they're making, you know, a big

01:12:33.340 movie about it.

01:12:34.500 And that was, I feel like they waited a

01:12:35.920 long time.

01:12:36.740 It was actually restraint there before

01:12:38.480 they actually made it.

01:12:39.320 Um, so they, uh, the movie comes out.

01:12:42.700 Everyone knows about that.

01:12:44.680 And, you know, it's not possible to

01:12:47.620 overstate how bad the scandal was.

01:12:49.380 It really was horrific.

01:12:51.240 Oh my gosh.

01:12:51.960 And what the church did to cover it up

01:12:53.540 and how they was horrific in every

01:12:55.620 way.

01:12:56.520 Uh, the church though, wants us to

01:12:58.220 believe now that, you know, since 2002,

01:13:00.460 they've turned it around.

01:13:01.460 They've, they've changed the way they

01:13:03.120 do things.

01:13:03.740 They've addressed these issues as much

01:13:05.640 as they can.

01:13:06.820 And, you know, things have changed.

01:13:09.720 So, does this report blow that

01:13:13.760 narrative up?

01:13:14.900 Because that's certainly the impression

01:13:16.740 that I got when I, when I heard the

01:13:18.740 coverage.

01:13:19.200 And that was the narrative we all

01:13:20.620 thought because they, everyone was

01:13:22.020 talking about that's the, that has

01:13:23.680 been the culture in the Catholic

01:13:25.060 church.

01:13:25.520 It's still the culture in the

01:13:27.180 Catholic church.

01:13:28.280 Nothing's been done.

01:13:29.260 Nothing's been done.

01:13:30.240 I mean, to, to put a fine point on

01:13:32.020 this, listen to Chuck Todd reporting

01:13:34.140 about this scandal.

01:13:35.860 What's happening in the Catholic

01:13:37.280 church, uh, this week out of

01:13:40.200 Pennsylvania is something that is

01:13:41.660 going to have reverberations here.

01:13:42.920 Pennsylvania grand jury report

01:13:44.160 released this week, identified more

01:13:45.760 than a thousand child victims of

01:13:48.600 more than 300 abusive Catholic

01:13:50.220 priests across the state of, that's

01:13:51.660 just one state of Pennsylvania.

01:13:54.120 This is in 2018.

01:13:56.220 Nevermind what we thought they made

01:13:58.220 movies about in 2002 and things like

01:14:00.240 that.

01:14:00.620 Okay.

01:14:00.900 So quite clearly is saying that this

01:14:02.840 is a new allegation.

01:14:03.940 It's not the 2002 thing.

01:14:05.920 This is 2018 folks.

01:14:08.160 This is different.

01:14:09.440 So I went through the, you know,

01:14:11.580 900 page report and it's incredibly

01:14:16.020 extensive.

01:14:17.320 Okay.

01:14:18.080 The, one of the first things you

01:14:19.060 notice when you're reading the

01:14:20.320 report is it's going to be really

01:14:21.820 hard to punish the priests involved

01:14:24.500 in it because a lot of them are dead.

01:14:27.280 Almost, I mean, a high percentage of

01:14:31.000 them are dead.

01:14:32.880 And so the priests that were doing it

01:14:34.360 this year in 2018, like Chuck Todd

01:14:36.440 noted, they all died already?

01:14:37.880 How did they all die?

01:14:38.500 How'd they die?

01:14:38.840 Did the Catholic church adopt the

01:14:40.640 death penalty?

01:14:41.500 Did they kill them?

01:14:42.040 Maybe they did.

01:14:42.960 No, they did not.

01:14:44.280 The reason why a lot of the priests in

01:14:46.160 the report are dead is because the

01:14:48.000 report is filled with a lot of really

01:14:50.280 old stuff.

01:14:52.380 Wow.

01:14:52.660 It's very detailed.

01:14:53.660 So this isn't new stuff.

01:14:54.720 This is not new stuff as Chuck Todd

01:14:56.820 just told you.

01:14:57.960 Wow.

01:14:58.440 None of this, none of what we're

01:14:59.640 hearing is new.

01:15:00.400 Highly, I mean, look, it's very

01:15:01.760 highly detailed.

01:15:02.780 That's new.

01:15:03.700 The details of what they did, how

01:15:05.660 they abused these kids, those things

01:15:07.320 are new and necessary.

01:15:08.460 I'm glad that that exists and I'm

01:15:10.140 glad that the grand jury did that

01:15:12.480 report.

01:15:12.880 But these are not new instances of

01:15:14.940 abuse?

01:15:15.120 They did not happen after the initial

01:15:18.300 scandal.

01:15:19.040 Wow.

01:15:19.460 If you look at.

01:15:20.420 That's unbelievable.

01:15:21.120 You go through all of the the dates

01:15:25.100 and and and try to figure out, you

01:15:28.320 know, what dates they were.

01:15:29.640 You're looking at 1970s, 1980s, 85,

01:15:32.700 81, 78, 66.

01:15:35.900 You know, there are there are two

01:15:39.440 allegations in there from 1948 and

01:15:42.440 1945 and 45.

01:15:45.260 You know, Hitler's still chancellor

01:15:46.880 and this abuse is going on.

01:15:48.900 Well, there is, you know, one

01:15:51.440 priest from 1950 abused someone and

01:15:54.040 died in 1968.

01:15:56.620 Now, that does not mean the abuse is

01:15:58.340 not important.

01:15:59.000 It doesn't mean that we shouldn't

01:15:59.880 cover it.

01:16:00.580 We should.

01:16:01.880 But let's this is completely

01:16:04.020 misleading.

01:16:04.840 A lot of Catholics are looking at

01:16:06.100 this and saying, wait a minute.

01:16:07.120 These are all.

01:16:07.480 The church said they're going to

01:16:08.080 change this.

01:16:08.800 Yeah.

01:16:09.360 Now, I mean, I went through is, you

01:16:10.960 know, as much pedophile accusations

01:16:12.680 as I could possibly stomach to try to

01:16:15.600 find something that happened

01:16:17.480 recently.

01:16:18.360 There was one accusation from 2006

01:16:21.020 that happened.

01:16:23.400 However, the priest was not actually

01:16:25.200 actively a priest, but was receiving

01:16:28.180 retirement benefits.

01:16:30.120 So that that's on there.

01:16:31.960 There is one other case where a

01:16:33.860 priest was caught with child

01:16:37.900 pornography in 2007 or 2004.

01:16:41.040 Excuse me.

01:16:41.460 He was dismissed from the church a

01:16:44.360 couple of years later.

01:16:45.380 He was also, you know, accused and

01:16:49.360 likely embezzled money from the

01:16:51.680 church.

01:16:51.900 And I don't think there's anyone who's

01:16:52.920 saying that the Catholic church

01:16:54.020 doesn't care about embezzling money.

01:16:55.700 Certainly the detractors would not

01:16:57.200 fight that.

01:16:58.320 And the report actually states that

01:17:01.200 the almost all of it is before the

01:17:05.180 early 2000s.

01:17:07.100 We know the bulk of the discussion in

01:17:08.740 the report concerns events that

01:17:09.920 occurred before the early 2000s.

01:17:12.520 That is simply because the bulk of

01:17:13.920 the material we received from the

01:17:15.460 diocese concerned those events.

01:17:17.420 And while they can't rule out

01:17:18.400 anything from the more recent past,

01:17:20.060 they acknowledge things have

01:17:21.820 improved noticeably.

01:17:22.640 They write, we recognize that much

01:17:24.660 has changed over the last 15 years.

01:17:26.560 We agreed to hear from each of the

01:17:27.980 six diocese we investigated so that

01:17:29.820 they could inform us about recent

01:17:31.060 developments in their jurisdictions.

01:17:32.660 Their testimony impressed us as

01:17:34.300 forthright and heartfelt.

01:17:36.380 It appears that the church is now

01:17:38.200 advising law enforcement of abuse

01:17:39.960 reports more promptly.

01:17:41.700 Internal review processes have been

01:17:43.380 established.

01:17:44.520 Victims are no longer quite as

01:17:46.460 invisible.

01:17:48.620 Is that not also really important to

01:17:51.180 talk about?

01:17:51.780 It is.

01:17:52.600 You know, sure.

01:17:53.600 It's important to detail how bad

01:17:55.040 these things were.

01:17:56.300 And these victims deserve to be able

01:17:58.320 to tell their stories.

01:17:59.320 There's no doubt about that.

01:18:01.200 But the impression that someone like

01:18:03.700 Chuck Todd gives you that this is

01:18:05.560 still spinning out of control, that

01:18:06.880 priests are currently still abusing a

01:18:08.620 lot of people.

01:18:10.020 There is no evidence of this.

01:18:11.640 The letter that came out the other

01:18:13.120 day about Pope Francis, so, you know,

01:18:14.760 I'm not a fan of.

01:18:15.560 I mean, I wish you would spend more

01:18:16.480 time on this problem instead of

01:18:17.500 telling me what I should be driving.

01:18:19.060 Yeah.

01:18:19.540 But even that report, there are

01:18:23.300 issues about whether people were

01:18:26.000 punished and they're still sorting

01:18:27.700 those things out in more recent

01:18:29.760 history.

01:18:30.220 But that allegation goes back 40,

01:18:32.000 50 years.

01:18:33.240 You know, the report does say that

01:18:35.080 things have changed.

01:18:35.980 And does say that things have

01:18:36.880 changed.

01:18:37.320 I mean, that's amazing.

01:18:38.300 I mean, because that's the main

01:18:40.260 beef with the Catholic Church is

01:18:42.740 that nothing's changed after the

01:18:44.420 initial, you know, scandal in 2002

01:18:47.200 from the Boston Globe.

01:18:48.840 And it seems like everybody's putting

01:18:50.860 it on this pontiff that, hey, how

01:18:53.080 come you're not addressing this?

01:18:54.780 Why?

01:18:55.140 How has this gotten swept under the

01:18:56.660 rug again?

01:18:57.440 Well, it kind of didn't.

01:18:58.680 They have been.

01:18:59.380 Yeah.

01:18:59.540 I mean, they did address it.

01:19:01.660 It didn't get swept under the rug.

01:19:03.520 They have improved.

01:19:04.840 And most of these charges aren't

01:19:06.720 recent.

01:19:07.380 Yeah.

01:19:07.600 We don't know.

01:19:08.440 The vast majority, apparently.

01:19:09.760 Yeah.

01:19:09.940 The overwhelming majority.

01:19:11.740 You know, I went through probably

01:19:12.860 200 allegations.

01:19:14.840 And there's two or three that

01:19:16.400 happened after, you know, the

01:19:17.960 2002 scandal.

01:19:20.180 I wonder, is that the impression

01:19:21.520 Catholics have of this latest?

01:19:23.820 I don't think so.

01:19:24.520 It certainly isn't the impression.

01:19:25.960 I mean, we haven't heard anything

01:19:27.000 like that from the Vatican.

01:19:28.300 I've been hearing them lament

01:19:30.280 another massive scandal, and

01:19:32.520 they're embarrassed by it, and

01:19:33.980 they're ashamed of it, and

01:19:35.260 they're disgusted.

01:19:37.100 And they should be disgusted.

01:19:38.480 And they should be.

01:19:39.280 But if this is all from, you know,

01:19:42.360 the distant past, and they've

01:19:44.200 changed, well, you did what we

01:19:46.280 asked you to do, at least, right?

01:19:47.760 At least, you know, look, we can't

01:19:49.180 rule out.

01:19:49.900 I mean, we know that there's a

01:19:50.740 recent allegation against the

01:19:52.220 Pope, which, you know, you've

01:19:54.080 probably heard a little bit about

01:19:55.400 where someone who was accused

01:19:56.780 again, several decades ago, was

01:19:59.700 maybe not punished by this Pope

01:20:01.460 the same way that the last Pope

01:20:03.160 punished him.

01:20:03.880 And we don't know all the

01:20:04.840 details of that still.

01:20:05.620 They're still, you know, working

01:20:06.700 that out.

01:20:07.900 But it does seem that there's at

01:20:09.560 least, you know, look, there's

01:20:10.560 not, you can't say, just like

01:20:11.980 any population, you can't say

01:20:13.540 that there's not still issues

01:20:14.640 going on.

01:20:15.200 It does not seem to be systemic

01:20:16.740 like it seemed to be before.

01:20:19.180 And one of the ways they talked

01:20:20.300 about this, and I thought was

01:20:21.360 interesting for our entire

01:20:23.400 society, was the Catholic

01:20:25.980 Church is out of the

01:20:26.740 investigative business.

01:20:28.940 What they tried to do for many,

01:20:30.600 many years is when one of these

01:20:31.600 issues would pop up, they tried

01:20:33.340 to investigate it internally.

01:20:34.900 They talked to psychiatrists who

01:20:36.440 would tell them, well, you could

01:20:37.300 probably rehab this person.

01:20:39.060 They'd shift them around to

01:20:40.500 different areas.

01:20:41.520 They'd do all sorts of

01:20:42.340 different things, trying to act as

01:20:45.120 if they were their own police

01:20:46.180 department.

01:20:47.420 And what they're doing now,

01:20:48.980 when they get these accusations,

01:20:50.040 is turning them over to an

01:20:51.600 actual police department.

01:20:53.460 And it's so funny to hear the

01:20:55.900 left come out and say, well,

01:20:57.900 the Catholic Church, obviously

01:20:58.960 they're terrible, they're evil,

01:21:00.180 look at what they're doing,

01:21:01.040 they were trying to litigate

01:21:02.760 these issues internally.

01:21:04.900 It's a rape, it's a child

01:21:06.460 molestation, you can't do that

01:21:07.460 internally.

01:21:08.060 By the way, let's praise

01:21:09.260 universities for litigating

01:21:10.940 rape accusations internally.

01:21:12.780 Let's all talk about how the

01:21:14.420 rape culture is proved by some

01:21:16.720 kangaroo court at Michigan

01:21:18.560 State.

01:21:19.000 Let's all act as if that's the

01:21:21.580 appropriate way to do it.

01:21:22.720 It's not.

01:21:23.620 Let's all act about how we should

01:21:25.220 now go in the media and talk

01:21:26.460 about Me Too allegations from

01:21:27.800 many years ago where no one has

01:21:29.320 any evidence or any chance to

01:21:30.840 defend themselves.

01:21:31.980 These things need to be litigated

01:21:34.160 through the legal system, not

01:21:35.960 through your opinion, not through

01:21:37.400 the media, not through any of

01:21:38.940 this, not through the church, not

01:21:40.400 through the college.

01:21:41.820 You have to bring them to

01:21:43.340 police.

01:21:44.480 Police need to investigate them.

01:21:45.960 legal outcomes need to be decided

01:21:49.220 based on evidence and truth.

01:21:52.180 You can't just say, try to handle

01:21:55.220 it, you know, treat your friends

01:21:56.960 differently, you know, favor one

01:21:58.920 side over another.

01:21:59.700 That doesn't work.

01:22:00.800 We have a legal system for a reason.

01:22:02.640 And if it's not serious enough to

01:22:05.120 deal with rape accusations, what the

01:22:07.340 hell is it for?

01:22:08.100 However, you have to be able to go

01:22:11.040 in there and bring these things.

01:22:12.580 And I hope, you know, that with a

01:22:14.300 Me Too situation playing itself

01:22:16.460 out, if anything comes out of this,

01:22:18.980 other than the fact that, you know,

01:22:20.900 some people who were absolutely

01:22:22.320 abused are able to tell their

01:22:23.500 stories and everything, we should be

01:22:26.180 encouraging people in these

01:22:28.140 situations to go to authorities at

01:22:30.620 the time.

01:22:31.800 Yes.

01:22:31.920 You have to.

01:22:32.820 There's no way to investigate these

01:22:34.500 things without that.

01:22:35.480 You can't get the truth by trying

01:22:38.580 to litigate them 50 years after the

01:22:40.700 events occur.

01:22:41.500 It just doesn't work.

01:22:42.800 You wind up just have people are,

01:22:44.160 you know, people are going to their

01:22:45.680 memories.

01:22:46.240 They're pulling things out.

01:22:47.280 They think they remember.

01:22:48.560 Sometimes they're true.

01:22:49.480 Sometimes they're not.

01:22:50.680 Sometimes people have agendas.

01:22:51.760 Sometimes they don't.

01:22:53.120 And it's impossible to figure out.

01:22:54.460 You can't just believe everybody as

01:22:55.840 we've seen over and over and over

01:22:57.640 again.

01:22:58.780 Yeah.

01:22:58.940 You don't have the right to be

01:22:59.920 believed immediately.

01:23:01.360 As we've pointed out with the Me Too

01:23:03.000 movement, you have a right to be

01:23:04.300 taken seriously.

01:23:05.480 And we'll look into it.

01:23:07.260 And let's get due process going.

01:23:11.480 And let's at least let the accused

01:23:15.960 have their day in court to, you

01:23:20.780 know, present their case.

01:23:21.980 Because isn't this still America?

01:23:24.320 And it's amazing because this is not

01:23:26.540 the way this current Catholic scandal is

01:23:29.460 being presented to the media.

01:23:30.700 It sure isn't.

01:23:31.260 It's crazy.

01:23:31.580 This is this is being presented as if

01:23:33.320 it's all new stuff, as if it's all

01:23:35.900 happening all over again.

01:23:38.180 It's really important to know this is

01:23:41.300 these are all almost all old

01:23:43.980 allegations.

01:23:44.960 Pretty amazing.

01:23:45.900 Yeah.

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01:24:56.080 Yeah, I do, too.

01:24:56.460 It is.

01:24:57.040 And the other thing is, what's great

01:24:58.460 about it is Jeffy's not there.

01:25:00.120 Right.

01:25:00.560 You know, when that's not a lot on that

01:25:02.120 show.

01:25:02.420 No, definitely not.

01:25:03.640 When are you going to come on?

01:25:04.520 How come you're not coming on?

01:25:05.960 I don't know.

01:25:06.580 I don't know.

01:25:07.740 You know what?

01:25:08.380 I'm being shadow banned.

01:25:09.720 You're being shadow banned?

01:25:11.400 I'm being shadow banned.

01:25:13.620 Really?

01:25:14.120 We need to look into that.

01:25:15.660 We need to look into the Jeffy

01:25:16.720 shadow ban.

01:25:17.320 Not with a lot of effort, though.

01:25:18.540 No.

01:25:18.980 Well, I just did.

01:25:20.000 I just looked into it.

01:25:20.820 I found nothing to it.

01:25:22.240 There's no shadow banning going on.

01:25:24.360 We'll look into it.

01:25:25.120 We'll look into it with the same

01:25:26.980 effort that social media puts into

01:25:28.920 conservative complaints about

01:25:30.360 shadow banning.

01:25:31.060 And we just did.

01:25:31.160 And so it's all over.

01:25:32.700 There's no shadow banning going on.

01:25:34.900 Yeah.

01:25:35.220 So that's good to hear.

01:25:36.660 You can come on any time you want,

01:25:37.880 Jeffy.

01:25:38.100 Oh, thank you.

01:25:38.540 Yeah.

01:25:38.740 Don't worry about it.

01:25:39.420 Thank you.

01:25:39.700 Don't worry about it.

01:25:40.860 Have you seen that things are so bad

01:25:42.960 in Venezuela in this socialist utopia?

01:25:47.140 And so it's hard to believe because

01:25:48.820 it is a socialist utopia.

01:25:50.760 And we heard about that from, you

01:25:52.800 know, Sean Penn and Danny Glover and

01:25:54.860 all these big time Hollywood

01:25:56.720 celebrities who went down there and

01:25:58.060 love Chavez and the socialist things

01:25:59.800 going on.

01:26:00.920 They were everything was great.

01:26:02.900 It's an oil rich country.

01:26:04.860 It's a first world nation.

01:26:06.180 They're doing fantastically.

01:26:08.980 Well, things are so bad.

01:26:10.520 They don't even have running water

01:26:12.000 most of the time.

01:26:12.940 There's an article written by somebody

01:26:15.480 who lives there talking about the fact

01:26:18.060 that when they're lucky, there's a

01:26:20.940 trickle that flows through their

01:26:22.820 apartment buildings, rickety pipes.

01:26:25.120 He says, when I'm lucky, they deliver as

01:26:27.740 much as 30 straight minutes worth of

01:26:30.220 water.

01:26:31.120 Whoa.

01:26:31.420 That's enough to fill up a 200 or so

01:26:33.580 gallon tank in my kitchen and trigger a

01:26:35.540 celebration.

01:26:36.540 I'll do something crazy and run the

01:26:39.100 water until it gets hot before I jump

01:26:41.220 into the shower.

01:26:41.880 If that happens, the tank is hooked up

01:26:44.820 to the building's distribution system, so

01:26:46.740 he doesn't have to be there to collect

01:26:48.960 it.

01:26:49.520 But in the past, he didn't have that.

01:26:52.040 And so you had to be home in order to

01:26:54.880 collect water and have water.

01:26:57.100 So apparently in Caracas, Venezuela, they

01:27:00.600 go without reliable access to all kinds of

01:27:04.480 basic essentials, food, water, medicine,

01:27:09.640 and toilet paper, toothpaste.

01:27:12.000 They don't have these things because it's

01:27:14.380 all dried up.

01:27:16.060 So they don't do their dishes.

01:27:17.740 They don't flush their toilets.

01:27:19.520 They don't take showers.

01:27:21.680 They are in a really, really terrible

01:27:25.880 situation where they can't even get the

01:27:28.080 water to run through their pipes in

01:27:30.540 Venezuela.

01:27:31.880 I don't know how this isn't being talked

01:27:35.480 about more.

01:27:36.540 You know, it's kind of like this situation

01:27:37.740 in South Africa where it seems like people

01:27:41.200 just don't know about it.

01:27:42.860 And the people who do know about it just

01:27:45.400 dismiss it, which is kind of what's

01:27:47.340 happened in South Africa.

01:27:48.520 And what an odd moment for the Democrats

01:27:50.140 to openly embrace democratic socialism.

01:27:52.960 Right.

01:27:53.300 Here's a giant example of it failing right

01:27:57.540 in front of our eyes.

01:27:58.280 One of the worst failures in history.

01:28:00.480 And we seem to be embracing it now in

01:28:03.880 this country.

01:28:04.660 It's unbelievable.

01:28:06.540 888-727-BECK.

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01:28:23.640 Hear that clip you played a little earlier

01:28:25.520 from CNN?

01:28:26.920 You know, just, I think to watch the

01:28:32.340 president, you know, I saw the flag

01:28:34.340 pictures this morning from the White

01:28:35.400 House, but to watch the president with

01:28:37.460 President Kenyatta of Kenya twice, you

01:28:40.460 know, not saying anything about this

01:28:46.420 hero, this lion of a man.

01:28:49.020 It's despicable.

01:28:52.420 It's despicable.

01:28:53.940 And this lion of a man.

01:28:56.440 It's how they love John McCain.

01:28:58.060 How they love him.

01:28:58.720 They always talked about him.

01:28:59.960 Like when he voted for the surge, it was

01:29:01.240 just, oh, this lion of a man supporting our

01:29:03.400 troops and helping turn the Iraq war tide.

01:29:06.680 When he was opposing Barack Obama for

01:29:09.060 president.

01:29:09.640 A lion of a man.

01:29:10.640 You got to vote for this lion of a man.

01:29:12.180 But I'm fascinated by what CNN is

01:29:16.780 attempting here.

01:29:17.860 And, you know, I think CNN, there's some

01:29:19.620 good people on there.

01:29:20.720 There's some good reporters there.

01:29:22.020 They do some good things.

01:29:22.960 Name one.

01:29:23.760 Oh, we talked about Jake Tapper many

01:29:25.360 times.

01:29:25.580 Yes.

01:29:25.900 There you go.

01:29:26.600 One.

01:29:27.200 There's several.

01:29:28.920 But I would say.

01:29:30.420 Name two.

01:29:30.860 The issue.

01:29:32.280 I'm going to go through all the names.

01:29:33.440 Because they're going to start leaving

01:29:34.040 people out.

01:29:34.740 That's the problem.

01:29:35.520 He can't.

01:29:35.740 He can't.

01:29:36.060 He can't.

01:29:36.460 Right?

01:29:36.800 The issue I think I would have here with

01:29:39.820 them, generally speaking, is they seem to

01:29:43.340 have turned in the era of Trump to

01:29:46.600 something they're not supposed to be.

01:29:48.820 Yeah.

01:29:48.980 And like they started this out.

01:29:51.280 You know, because Trump says things and

01:29:53.340 he isn't, you know, a lot of supporters

01:29:54.980 say things and sometimes they're not true.

01:29:57.060 Right?

01:29:57.280 I mean, we see this from both sides of the

01:29:58.900 aisle all the time.

01:29:59.820 Yeah.

01:29:59.980 But there are things that are false in

01:30:02.700 our political discourse.

01:30:03.680 This is not going to surprise anybody.

01:30:04.900 What do you want Hillary Clinton to win?

01:30:06.820 Is that what you're saying?

01:30:07.400 No.

01:30:07.560 It's not what you're saying.

01:30:08.640 You want Hillary Clinton.

01:30:09.260 She's not running.

01:30:10.140 I don't know.

01:30:10.480 Why do you think?

01:30:11.140 You know, we haven't been here in a

01:30:12.680 little while.

01:30:13.080 Are you a copy of this thing?

01:30:14.060 No.

01:30:14.320 Wow.

01:30:15.220 Wow.

01:30:15.540 I'm not saying that at all.

01:30:18.420 So their response, CNN's response to

01:30:22.360 this idea that there's all these fake

01:30:24.100 things out there is to push back.

01:30:25.400 And of course, obviously, they're from

01:30:26.280 the left.

01:30:26.720 They're saying that Trump is lying all

01:30:27.940 the time and all the Trump supporters

01:30:28.960 are lying all the time.

01:30:29.720 And I was talking about this yesterday.

01:30:31.920 CNN was headed in a different direction.

01:30:34.160 Yeah.

01:30:34.320 Remember that?

01:30:34.740 They were.

01:30:35.360 They were headed in a pretty good

01:30:37.160 direction for a while.

01:30:38.620 And then all of a sudden they did this

01:30:40.480 U-turn and went further left than MSNBC.

01:30:44.320 Now, all of a sudden, they've taken the

01:30:46.160 MSNBC position and have to oppose

01:30:49.920 everything on the right and certainly

01:30:52.000 everything about Donald Trump.

01:30:53.020 They came down with the derangement

01:30:55.160 syndrome for sure.

01:30:56.160 They did.

01:30:56.240 I don't know.

01:30:56.720 It really has, I think, honestly changed

01:30:59.020 the fabric of the company in many ways.

01:31:01.580 Yeah, they did.

01:31:02.240 And I don't know if MSNBC is less left

01:31:06.080 or more left than CNN.

01:31:08.320 I think they've largely been swallowed up.

01:31:11.280 Like, CNN has been making so much news

01:31:13.740 about these opinions because they present

01:31:15.520 themselves as objective.

01:31:17.420 Where MSNBC, I mean, I know, just like

01:31:19.480 Fox says fair and balanced, we all know

01:31:21.460 they're not objective on a lot of these

01:31:23.940 things.

01:31:24.400 They both, you know, Fox comes from the

01:31:26.120 right and MSNBC comes from the left and

01:31:27.820 we can handle that.

01:31:28.860 CNN makes a big deal about how balanced

01:31:31.100 they are and they keep coming out so far

01:31:33.440 left.

01:31:33.860 And here, let me illustrate this.

01:31:35.400 You remember this big ad campaign they

01:31:36.680 did after Trump got into office about the

01:31:39.560 apples and the bananas.

01:31:41.020 Listen to their first, the first spot, and

01:31:43.500 obviously there's a lot to criticize about

01:31:44.900 CNN because they don't hit this standard

01:31:46.700 that often, seemingly.

01:31:48.240 But listen to this commercial.

01:31:50.300 This is the first one from the apples

01:31:52.040 campaign.

01:31:53.760 This is an apple.

01:31:55.860 Some people might try to tell you that

01:31:58.160 it's a banana.

01:31:59.560 They might scream banana, banana, banana

01:32:02.160 over and over and over again.

01:32:05.200 They might put banana in all caps.

01:32:08.720 You might even start to believe that

01:32:10.720 this is a banana.

01:32:13.140 But it's not.

01:32:14.060 This is an apple.

01:32:19.660 Okay.

01:32:20.600 So, conservatives made fun of that ad and

01:32:24.840 criticized it a lot because they don't

01:32:27.860 hit that standard often enough.

01:32:29.940 Right?

01:32:30.080 The idea that something is a fact and it's

01:32:32.460 a fact and you can't change it.

01:32:34.480 Even if you tell me something else is

01:32:35.660 true, we know what the fact is.

01:32:37.500 The truth really exists.

01:32:39.320 Right?

01:32:39.500 And that is something I think, while I

01:32:44.120 don't think CNN hits it as often as I'd

01:32:45.900 like, is actually what CNN should be

01:32:48.240 doing.

01:32:48.800 That is actually a good ad as to the

01:32:52.300 point of what they should be shooting

01:32:54.380 for.

01:32:54.640 Right?

01:32:55.060 Absolutely.

01:32:55.480 Like, they should be saying, hey, here's

01:32:57.200 what really happened.

01:32:58.300 Here's the truth.

01:32:59.100 Let me tell you about it.

01:33:00.060 And it is.

01:33:00.720 Without agenda.

01:33:01.320 It's actually kind of what they once

01:33:03.000 were.

01:33:03.440 And that's kind of what they once were.

01:33:04.540 In the 80s and 90s.

01:33:06.280 That's what CNN was.

01:33:07.780 Even the early 2000s.

01:33:09.340 Yeah.

01:33:09.640 You know, even, I don't know, until just

01:33:12.420 a few years ago, they were closer to

01:33:14.460 that ideal.

01:33:15.200 I think they at least, they're certainly

01:33:17.220 a left-leaning network.

01:33:18.260 There's no doubt about it.

01:33:19.060 That's almost all the mainstream media

01:33:20.620 is.

01:33:20.980 But nowhere near what they are today.

01:33:22.080 Nowhere near.

01:33:22.980 So, let me make the case that this

01:33:25.840 second commercial is where they've

01:33:27.780 gone wrong.

01:33:29.080 Because the first commercial, again,

01:33:30.400 this is them trying to tell you how

01:33:31.960 wonderful they are and how great

01:33:33.340 their coverage is.

01:33:34.060 They first say that we always tell you

01:33:35.920 an apple is an apple, no matter what.

01:33:37.500 If someone else tells you a banana,

01:33:39.020 we're going to tell you it's an apple.

01:33:41.040 But listen to this next ad.

01:33:42.400 It was a follow-up ad that got a lot

01:33:43.680 less attention.

01:33:44.380 And this is where I think CNN has

01:33:45.860 really gone wrong.

01:33:48.020 Is this what CNN should be doing?

01:33:50.780 Listen.

01:33:52.720 This is an apple.

01:33:56.020 And this is an apple.

01:33:58.620 And this is an apple.

01:34:01.080 And this is an apple.

01:34:02.480 And when you put them all together,

01:34:05.580 you've got

01:34:07.600 a case.

01:34:11.860 Now,

01:34:12.620 they have a case of apples on the screen.

01:34:14.980 Obviously, if you're listening,

01:34:15.960 there's a bunch of apples and they've

01:34:16.960 made a case.

01:34:18.180 Is it CNN's job to make

01:34:20.180 a case about the news?

01:34:22.240 That lawyers take facts

01:34:24.080 and turn them into cases.

01:34:25.320 Talk show hosts do it all the time.

01:34:27.000 We will constantly go back and say,

01:34:28.600 hey, here's what Barack Obama did.

01:34:29.920 This is why we believe this about Barack Obama.

01:34:32.080 We build cases.

01:34:33.840 Opinion people build cases.

01:34:36.160 Right.

01:34:36.380 Why is a news organization

01:34:38.300 trying to build a case

01:34:40.120 against somebody?

01:34:41.440 That is not what they should be doing.

01:34:44.040 It's actually the complete opposite.

01:34:46.000 They should be putting the facts out there

01:34:47.420 and letting listeners decide for themselves.

01:34:49.860 Right.

01:34:50.220 They're not.

01:34:50.760 This is they're acting as if

01:34:52.520 they're prosecuting attorneys

01:34:53.900 in these cases.

01:34:54.880 That's not what they're supposed

01:34:55.820 to be doing.

01:34:56.900 They're supposed to be laying out

01:34:58.300 the facts and letting people

01:34:59.500 decide for themselves.

01:35:00.260 And I think they think

01:35:01.660 their job is

01:35:02.600 here are all the things

01:35:04.460 that we think are bad

01:35:05.340 about Donald Trump

01:35:06.260 and here's our case

01:35:07.540 so you should agree with us

01:35:08.460 that Donald Trump is bad.

01:35:10.400 And that is,

01:35:11.280 I think,

01:35:11.680 the absolute opposite

01:35:12.940 of what a news organization

01:35:14.020 is supposed to do

01:35:15.320 that is fair

01:35:16.280 and right down the middle.

01:35:18.380 Right.

01:35:18.460 You see this from their hosts

01:35:19.420 all the time.

01:35:20.380 They'll be like,

01:35:20.800 you know,

01:35:21.080 Donald Trump will come out

01:35:22.100 and say something about,

01:35:23.540 you know,

01:35:24.440 whatever.

01:35:24.780 he'll misspell something

01:35:28.320 on Twitter

01:35:28.900 and they will go through

01:35:30.920 for 10 minutes

01:35:32.160 and review to you

01:35:34.100 all the other times

01:35:35.600 he's misspelled things

01:35:36.820 on Twitter.

01:35:37.620 Now,

01:35:38.260 that doesn't,

01:35:38.980 they're not saying anything false.

01:35:40.180 He did misspell things

01:35:41.220 on Twitter,

01:35:41.680 right?

01:35:41.920 I'm just using a dumb example.

01:35:43.920 But they're trying to get you

01:35:45.520 to believe that he's an idiot.

01:35:47.680 You see this all the time

01:35:48.460 when they go through

01:35:49.400 with someone,

01:35:49.760 there's new corruption scandal

01:35:51.360 or there's a new scandal

01:35:53.180 that comes out where

01:35:54.080 that looks bad for the president.

01:35:55.460 They'll build the case

01:35:56.500 that the White House

01:35:57.220 is in constant turmoil

01:35:58.540 by listing all of the past accusations

01:36:01.820 and all the other things

01:36:02.840 that may or may not have been

01:36:03.980 true or proven out.

01:36:05.580 With McCain,

01:36:06.420 they'll list all the other times

01:36:07.540 they've had problems

01:36:08.320 and all the other times

01:36:09.020 they perceive him

01:36:09.760 as being a jerk to McCain

01:36:10.860 to prove that he's being

01:36:11.900 a jerk to McCain this time.

01:36:13.600 You shouldn't be trying to prove

01:36:14.880 that he's being a jerk to McCain.

01:36:16.100 You shouldn't be trying to prove

01:36:17.020 he's despicable to McCain

01:36:18.420 as she said.

01:36:19.680 You should just be laying out the facts

01:36:20.900 and let people decide themselves

01:36:22.100 if they think it's despicable.

01:36:23.660 It's not your role.

01:36:25.040 It's for opinion people

01:36:26.020 to lay out a case.

01:36:28.800 And supposedly,

01:36:29.520 CNN's a down-the-middle

01:36:30.860 news organization.

01:36:32.340 But they're not now.

01:36:33.280 Not right now they're not.

01:36:34.340 They're not.

01:36:34.680 Not right now they're not.

01:36:35.840 And look,

01:36:37.180 you can like Trump

01:36:37.860 or not like Trump,

01:36:39.060 but you should still want him

01:36:40.200 to be treated fairly.

01:36:41.840 You should still want him

01:36:42.600 to be treated

01:36:43.360 with the respect of a president,

01:36:46.420 but also just factually.

01:36:48.700 You can report,

01:36:49.360 when there's these reports

01:36:50.160 that come out

01:36:50.840 in these newspapers,

01:36:51.680 you might not like him

01:36:52.520 as a Trump fan,

01:36:53.180 but it's okay for them

01:36:53.900 to report on those things

01:36:54.960 and then try to get

01:36:55.680 to the bottom of them.

01:36:56.600 But don't try to build

01:36:57.760 a case against the guy.

01:36:59.140 That's not your job.

01:37:00.600 And I feel like that is really

01:37:01.720 where they've gone

01:37:02.460 seriously awry.

01:37:04.880 Because you're right, Pat.

01:37:05.820 When you listen to

01:37:07.700 their coverage

01:37:09.260 before the election

01:37:11.940 really heated up,

01:37:13.520 you get some good things

01:37:14.520 and you get some bad things.

01:37:15.860 You get some stuff

01:37:16.760 where they took on

01:37:18.000 the left.

01:37:19.320 You'd get,

01:37:20.200 I mean,

01:37:20.420 they did a lot of reporting

01:37:21.680 that was critical

01:37:22.380 of Hillary Clinton

01:37:23.180 before the election

01:37:25.680 and, you know,

01:37:26.420 some in the election.

01:37:27.920 There's some of it.

01:37:28.980 But as Trump had,

01:37:30.240 I don't think they ever thought

01:37:31.320 Trump was going to win.

01:37:32.600 And from the second

01:37:33.780 that he actually won,

01:37:36.020 it seems to have

01:37:36.920 turned the organization

01:37:37.680 inside out.

01:37:38.860 Well, they've already decided,

01:37:39.760 right?

01:37:39.920 I mean,

01:37:40.080 that's part of the problem

01:37:41.240 is that they've decided

01:37:42.520 that we're supposed

01:37:43.520 to hate him

01:37:44.140 because they do.

01:37:45.760 And we're going to show you

01:37:47.040 all this stuff

01:37:47.660 that will make you hate him

01:37:48.900 because this is the stuff

01:37:49.780 that makes us hate him.

01:37:50.820 Yeah.

01:37:51.280 And you shouldn't know

01:37:52.160 that a news organization

01:37:53.340 hates anybody.

01:37:55.600 No.

01:37:56.180 There should be,

01:37:57.080 there should be no sign of that.

01:37:59.420 There should be

01:38:00.500 objective reporting

01:38:01.980 and then listeners decide

01:38:04.180 if they're going to hate him

01:38:05.920 or they're going to love him

01:38:06.640 or they're going to be

01:38:07.180 somewhere in between.

01:38:08.060 That's the way news works

01:38:09.740 is you just present the facts

01:38:11.560 and leave it alone.

01:38:13.400 Yeah.

01:38:13.540 And I think unlike

01:38:14.640 the normal reaction to this

01:38:16.560 where I think,

01:38:17.320 like ratings,

01:38:18.140 I think for Fox

01:38:19.160 and MSNBC

01:38:19.960 drive some of these decisions

01:38:21.180 where people want opinion.

01:38:23.620 They want the case made.

01:38:25.220 They want these things to happen

01:38:26.520 because it makes them feel good

01:38:27.880 or whatever.

01:38:28.200 But they want that

01:38:28.380 from the people who

01:38:28.860 don't pretend

01:38:30.820 to be just journalists.

01:38:33.020 Right.

01:38:33.400 You know,

01:38:33.680 like I was,

01:38:34.880 I saw an article

01:38:36.440 that somebody said

01:38:39.440 that Sean Hannity's,

01:38:41.240 he called into question

01:38:42.200 whether he's a journalist.

01:38:44.040 And then there was

01:38:45.080 a big to do about

01:38:46.420 Sean Hannity's not a journalist.

01:38:48.280 You're calling him

01:38:48.740 not a journalist.

01:38:49.820 And Sean Hannity came out

01:38:50.840 and said,

01:38:51.380 of course I'm not a journalist.

01:38:54.240 I'm an,

01:38:54.860 I'm an opinion person.

01:38:56.400 It's the same thing

01:38:56.920 that Glenn and I

01:38:58.160 and you

01:38:58.760 and you have all said

01:39:00.320 we're not journalists.

01:39:01.820 We don't pretend to be though.

01:39:03.820 When you have somebody

01:39:05.080 who's pretending

01:39:05.860 to be a journalist

01:39:06.820 and supposedly

01:39:07.840 down the middle

01:39:09.140 and just presenting you

01:39:11.040 with facts,

01:39:11.560 that's where

01:39:12.140 the deceit comes in.

01:39:13.720 Because when you have

01:39:15.260 a Chris Cuomo

01:39:15.980 who claims to be

01:39:16.860 a journalist

01:39:17.600 presenting you

01:39:19.320 with opinion,

01:39:20.900 well,

01:39:21.480 that's deception.

01:39:22.840 Cuomo's a great example

01:39:23.800 of this

01:39:24.140 because he is,

01:39:25.360 his background

01:39:26.240 is as an attorney.

01:39:27.440 Yep.

01:39:27.900 And he thinks,

01:39:29.440 you even hear it

01:39:30.400 on the other side

01:39:31.260 with him at times,

01:39:32.500 he will,

01:39:33.380 he thinks he's an attorney

01:39:34.620 making a case

01:39:35.400 against whoever,

01:39:36.620 whatever guests

01:39:37.120 he has on.

01:39:38.400 And obviously

01:39:39.280 90% of them

01:39:40.240 are going to be

01:39:41.860 on the right

01:39:42.240 and he goes crazy

01:39:43.320 on them.

01:39:44.340 But he'll even do it

01:39:45.160 occasionally on the left.

01:39:45.920 He thinks of himself

01:39:46.680 I think as a guy

01:39:48.420 just prosecuting

01:39:49.440 a case on the air.

01:39:50.480 And that's not a good

01:39:51.040 look for a news organization.

01:39:53.780 No.

01:39:54.220 Tell me what's

01:39:54.880 actually happening.

01:39:56.340 Give me the news.

01:39:57.440 Take your emotion.

01:39:58.980 I mean,

01:39:59.360 calling the President

01:40:00.520 of the United States

01:40:00.960 despicable

01:40:01.840 on the air

01:40:02.920 from a news organization

01:40:04.180 is not even close

01:40:05.960 to the line.

01:40:06.600 It's terrible.

01:40:07.500 I mean,

01:40:07.780 it's,

01:40:08.800 now we,

01:40:09.620 us calling the President

01:40:10.480 of the United States

01:40:10.960 despicable is not.

01:40:12.460 I mean,

01:40:12.680 it's our opinion

01:40:13.700 and that's why

01:40:14.180 people come to the show.

01:40:15.400 If they don't,

01:40:17.060 if they're going to CNN

01:40:18.000 for opinion,

01:40:18.720 then be honest about it.

01:40:19.620 Stop doing your apples

01:40:20.300 and bananas ads.

01:40:21.320 Yes.

01:40:21.720 Because you can do that.

01:40:22.660 I mean,

01:40:22.840 MSNBC's doing it.

01:40:24.180 Right?

01:40:24.380 They have,

01:40:24.820 Rachel Maddow's out there.

01:40:25.700 She's not making,

01:40:26.400 she's not hiding the fact

01:40:27.440 that she can't stand

01:40:28.280 the President.

01:40:28.780 She's super liberal

01:40:29.500 and she's making

01:40:30.400 that case every night.

01:40:32.080 The case of why Russia

01:40:33.640 is,

01:40:34.000 there was collusion

01:40:34.960 in Russia.

01:40:35.660 You can tune on,

01:40:36.700 tune into Rachel Maddow

01:40:37.640 and she will make

01:40:38.100 that case for you

01:40:38.880 on a nightly basis.

01:40:41.040 But that is not

01:40:41.700 supposed to be CNN's job.

01:40:43.840 And I don't know what,

01:40:44.820 I don't know.

01:40:45.580 Yeah.

01:40:45.860 They lost their way.

01:40:46.640 They really seem

01:40:47.300 like they did.

01:40:47.980 Yeah.

01:40:48.840 888-727-BECK.

01:40:51.140 Pat,

01:40:51.860 Stu,

01:40:52.140 and Jeffy for Glenn

01:40:52.900 on the Glenn Beck Program.

01:40:57.280 Pat,

01:40:57.800 Stu,

01:40:58.080 and Jeffy for Glenn.

01:40:59.420 888-727-BECK.

01:41:02.700 And in just a few minutes,

01:41:04.400 we'll help you stick around

01:41:05.720 for Pat Gray Unleashed.

01:41:07.640 Immediately following this program

01:41:08.820 on the Blaze Radio and TV networks.

01:41:12.560 So,

01:41:13.540 this,

01:41:13.980 this really strange development

01:41:17.060 about the Catholic Church scandal,

01:41:19.580 the latest one,

01:41:20.880 is something we haven't been hearing

01:41:23.020 from anybody,

01:41:23.960 including hierarchy

01:41:25.620 of the Catholic Church,

01:41:26.800 which really is

01:41:28.380 kind of surprising to me

01:41:29.600 because these are

01:41:30.620 virtually all

01:41:32.440 old allegations

01:41:33.780 that happened

01:41:35.540 prior to

01:41:36.340 even the last

01:41:37.220 big scandal.

01:41:38.360 Mm-hmm.

01:41:38.520 It's basically

01:41:39.020 an accounting

01:41:40.120 of that last

01:41:41.620 big scandal

01:41:42.260 from 2002.

01:41:43.620 It's all the cases

01:41:44.500 up 70 years

01:41:45.460 before 2002.

01:41:46.620 How is it we're not,

01:41:47.800 how is it,

01:41:48.400 we're not aware of that?

01:41:49.580 I don't know.

01:41:50.020 I mean,

01:41:50.180 Chuck Todd certainly

01:41:50.840 didn't seem aware of it

01:41:51.620 when he was railing

01:41:53.020 about how it was happening

01:41:54.000 in 2018

01:41:54.700 and completely

01:41:56.100 not,

01:41:57.060 I mean,

01:41:57.280 he had no understanding

01:41:58.300 of the story

01:41:58.860 as he was telling it

01:41:59.800 and we played

01:42:00.380 a bunch of clips

01:42:00.960 that either

01:42:02.380 people didn't know

01:42:03.660 that they were old accusations

01:42:05.040 or they were intentionally

01:42:06.140 wording things

01:42:06.900 in a way

01:42:07.240 that you should probably,

01:42:08.320 that most people

01:42:08.840 would take it

01:42:09.540 as if it was

01:42:10.700 a new allegation.

01:42:11.820 Yeah.

01:42:12.040 You know,

01:42:12.280 you kind of,

01:42:13.000 if you leave out that detail

01:42:14.080 or you say it's just

01:42:14.820 over a long period of time,

01:42:16.520 it makes it feel like,

01:42:17.960 okay,

01:42:18.300 well,

01:42:18.660 it's that whole

01:42:20.420 other thing we talked about

01:42:21.440 and continuing

01:42:22.220 into the present,

01:42:23.220 which doesn't,

01:42:23.900 they still haven't

01:42:24.460 dealt with any of it.

01:42:25.300 Yeah.

01:42:25.680 It doesn't necessarily

01:42:26.520 seem to be true.

01:42:28.820 They're talking now

01:42:29.920 about this latest letter

01:42:31.080 that comes

01:42:31.600 and they want Pope Francis

01:42:32.660 to resign over.

01:42:33.980 And again,

01:42:34.380 I would not say

01:42:35.500 I'm a fan

01:42:35.920 of the way

01:42:36.700 Pope Francis

01:42:37.400 has dealt

01:42:38.360 with many things.

01:42:40.000 But the,

01:42:41.040 you know,

01:42:41.220 they're trying

01:42:41.600 to push back now

01:42:42.400 and saying,

01:42:42.960 you know,

01:42:43.920 what has been accused

01:42:46.160 here is potentially

01:42:47.740 disturbing.

01:42:49.100 However,

01:42:49.980 they were not kids

01:42:51.700 and it does not seem,

01:42:54.220 their argument

01:42:55.060 is that it was not

01:42:56.000 an unwilling thing.

01:42:57.320 Now,

01:42:57.420 if you're a priest,

01:42:58.040 you're not supposed

01:42:58.400 to be having sex

01:42:58.960 with anybody.

01:43:00.280 So,

01:43:00.640 any problem like that,

01:43:02.300 if you're just hooking up

01:43:03.220 with parishioners,

01:43:03.900 that's a really bad thing.

01:43:05.480 It's not,

01:43:06.140 but it's different

01:43:06.940 than the scandal

01:43:09.540 as we've understood it

01:43:10.460 in our sense as well.

01:43:11.480 then certainly pedophilia.

01:43:13.400 Yeah.

01:43:14.100 Yes.

01:43:14.420 Which is how we look

01:43:16.220 at this

01:43:16.620 as pedophilia.

01:43:18.440 But they're saying

01:43:18.880 these are willing

01:43:19.420 participants

01:43:19.900 and women.

01:43:21.120 That is the claim.

01:43:22.940 Like 18 year old

01:43:24.340 plus girls

01:43:25.880 and priests.

01:43:27.160 That's against the rules

01:43:28.140 of the Catholic Church.

01:43:29.260 Yes,

01:43:29.520 but that's a different issue.

01:43:30.440 But it's a different issue.

01:43:31.660 So,

01:43:31.900 we'll see.

01:43:32.220 We'll see how it plays out.

01:43:32.940 Now,

01:43:33.060 some of these accusations

01:43:33.660 are very old as well.

01:43:35.300 We may hear new ones

01:43:36.300 that come up.

01:43:37.340 But it's important

01:43:38.280 to have,

01:43:38.800 it's an important distinction,

01:43:40.420 I think,

01:43:40.700 especially for Catholics

01:43:41.680 who,

01:43:42.760 you know,

01:43:42.980 might be questioning

01:43:43.740 this thing

01:43:44.860 that they,

01:43:45.280 you know,

01:43:45.620 believe so strongly in.

01:43:46.660 No kidding.

01:43:47.280 Yeah.

01:43:47.580 And a lot of them are.

01:43:48.480 Yeah.

01:43:49.020 Yeah.

01:43:49.360 All right.

01:43:50.220 We'll see you tomorrow

01:43:51.380 right back here

01:43:51.920 filling in for Glenn.

01:43:56.720 Glenn,

01:43:57.500 back.

01:43:58.680 Mercury.

The Glenn Beck Program - August 28, 2018

'Is this Still America？' - 8⧸28⧸18

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