The FBI has arrested a suspect in the case involving the pipe bombs left near the Republican National Committee headquarters in Washington, D.C. on January 6th, 2021. Glenn Beck talks about this and much more.
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00:04:22.920All right. So, um, we're just getting some, uh, information in just before we went on. Uh, the news has broke, broken about the FBI.
00:04:32.640They have arrested a suspect in the case involving the pipe bombs left near the headquarters of the DNC and the Republican National Committee the night before January.
00:04:44.2406th, the bombs were placed on January 5th, 2021, sometime between 7.30 and 8.30 PM one device near the DNC or, uh, near or on the park bench and another in an alley close to the RNC.
00:04:59.000The devices were diffused and did not detonate, but, uh, authorities now say that they were viable, meaning they had the potential to kill or injure people.
00:05:08.480Um, the evidence leading to the arrest does not appear to be coming from brand new physical clues, but rather from a fresh review of existing evidence, video footage, witness tips, and other materials collected in 2021 to 2022.
00:05:26.080Uh, officials reportedly linked the suspect to statements in support of anarchist ideology.
00:05:36.140Now, uh, the devices, uh, themselves were described, uh, to include threaded galvanized pipes, about one to eight inches and caps, kitchen timers, wires, blah, blah, blah.
00:05:46.920Investigators, uh, have been working on this.
00:05:49.740I mean, I've talked to Dan Bongino off the air several times and he's like, Glenn, we are busting our ass on this and we just keep coming up dead end, dead end.
00:06:00.520Um, this was, I don't know, six months ago.
00:06:02.920He said, we thought we had him and it fell apart at the last minute.
00:06:06.440So I don't know if this is the same guy who this is.
00:06:09.900Um, but, uh, apparently homemade, obviously, um, they tried to track the bomb making components.
00:06:19.000You know, they tried analyzing the cell phone location, credit card data, you know, tracking shoe sales, honestly, because he wore distinctive sneakers.
00:06:28.640And so they were looking at who bought, can you imagine that?
00:06:31.200I mean, that's something you couldn't have done a few years ago, tracking sneaker sales.
00:06:36.140Um, they have not released a name yet of the suspect.
00:06:40.700Multiple sources say the person is a man from Virginia.
00:06:43.840That's one report that is saying that all of this stuff, we have no idea.
00:06:48.040You know, this is just the initial report.
00:06:51.520Um, no official charges have been publicly detailed yet.
00:06:55.100Um, some media is saying that he is suspected of planting the bombs, but a formal charge sheet and criminal complaint has not been announced yet.
00:07:03.860Uh, at least that we are aware of at this point, motive remains unclear.
00:10:16.200But I also want to talk about the fraud that is going on because, I mean, there is a story going on right now that shows you what happens when a government grows so massive, so unaccountable, so convinced of its own benevolence.
00:10:33.000That it can no longer tell the difference between literally the living and the dead.
00:10:38.660Now, I want to preface this with, I want to give everyone the benefit of the doubt here, but I'm not sure they deserve it.
00:11:01.420This is the GAO, and it shows that fake people, phony social security numbers, and even the dear departed were routinely approved for taxpayer-funded Obamacare subsidies.
00:11:16.280Now, I emphasize the word routinely because what I mean by that is 100% of the GAO's fictitious applications were approved.
00:11:36.240Every single one that was fake was approved.
00:11:39.720You could, honestly, you could have taken a napkin and scribbled the words, John Doe, totally real citizen, thrown some numbers up for a social security number that you pulled out of a fortune cookie, and the federal government would have said, you got to send this guy a check.
00:11:58.740Because it says right here, he's a totally real citizen here.
00:12:01.620They would have sent tens of thousands of dollars to your insurance company to reward the fraud.
00:12:15.620Once again, systemic failure, engineered by design, protected by politicians and politics, funded by your sweat.
00:12:29.320How long do you have to work every day to pay for just the fraud?
00:12:37.660I mean, it is getting to the point to where it's, it's obscene.
00:12:43.740And honestly, if I don't start seeing people go to jail, I said this, I'm going to start saying this every day here for, for the next couple of weeks.
00:12:52.380I said at the beginning of the Trump administration, and when they appointed Pam Bondi, I'm not, I'm going to give Pam all the room she needs for a year because you just don't throw prosecutions together.
00:20:48.600Well, apparently they're going to starve in Minneapolis because you just built the kids and took their food programs, took that for a billion dollars.
00:20:57.700You're going to stand in the way of progress.
00:21:12.780Progress or was the progress actually for the insurance companies pocketing tens of billions in taxpayer money while Congress argues about who's compassionate and who's not?
00:21:25.240This is moral rot disguised as compassion.
00:21:29.920It's a system that can't tell a citizen from a corpse.
00:21:34.960And they pretend to care about the vulnerable.
00:22:08.460When a government becomes this incompetent, when bureaucracy becomes this unaccountable, when trillions of dollars are moving through systems that nobody is monitoring, fraud's not the exception.
00:27:10.220Let me give you the 2020 findings, okay?
00:27:13.440Government Accountability Office said that every single one of the fictitious people that were submitted names, 100% of them were approved.
00:27:28.160Not only were they approved, they were renewed year after year, and also there were dead people, like lots of dead people.
00:27:39.520People that didn't exist at all, we're looking at 66,000 social security numbers that didn't match any real living people.
00:27:50.64058,000 match social security death records, 6 million people who are not even in the categories they claim to be in the categories, and they're getting tens of thousands of dollars, each of them.
00:28:02.000Three or four times as many people enrolled in 150, 100 to 150 of poverty into these zero plans.
00:28:12.100They're not in those income tax brackets.
00:28:14.400They're not eligible for that money, but they were still getting it.
00:28:39.140They were approved coverage even when no documents were requested or only fake documents were submitted.
00:28:44.960And not only this, but it's set to just, it's like the bad subscription that you have that you have no idea that you had, you know, five years ago.
00:29:28.540This is, you know, when a government becomes this incompetent and unaccountable, your country starts to completely fall apart.
00:29:37.880Okay, and we see Democrats now rushing to the microphone to defend the perpetrators, you know, the judges that are reversing verdicts to protect the people who stole from you.
00:29:51.580I contend that the people that are rushing to defend it are the people who have been covering this up, and you see brainwashed Americans.
00:30:02.200I'm sorry, but if you can't, if you're not outraged by this amount of fraud, I don't care who did it.
00:30:09.100If you're not outraged, and you don't want all of these people to go to jail, you're so brainwashed, you are, you're actually defending the people who are stabbing you in the chest every day.
00:30:26.140I mean, it is, it's like you have Stockholm Syndrome, and the question is, it's not incompetence, is it, or is it design?
00:30:34.380Again, this is how republics fall apart, okay, not foreign invasion, although we have that going on, not with, you know, just internal, uh, internal strife, which we have going on, not just with financial collapse, which we have going on, but also with internal corruption, which we have going on, defended by the same people who lecture you about morality.
00:31:00.520And they're handing out money, your money, to imaginary citizens.
00:31:07.280And then they have the balls to come and say, if you don't extend these subsidies, all these people are going to lose coverage.
00:31:18.480Let's have the dead people that you're paying lose that coverage and use that money that you've just blown and give to your friends or your NGOs.
00:31:28.020Let's use that money to cover the subsidies.
00:33:00.120That's why I started the show saying, you know, come January, when the one-year anniversary goes on, if I don't see people actually with indictments that are going to jail, all hell is coming to this program.
00:33:28.180I have been as supportive as I can be.
00:33:31.400But if I don't see prosecutions of people, and I don't mean nameless people, I don't mean the little guy, just the Somalian, I want to see the people who were in power that covered this up.
00:33:54.940They're replaced with another Somalian, or another Italian, or another American, or another Mexican, or another just, here's an idea, human being.
00:34:05.700Because human beings, when they think they can get ahead without getting caught or paying any price, they'll do it.
00:34:13.100And if you have people in power that want to get ahead, and they're in on the corruption, and they're excusing all of this, and they never pay a price because the one Somalian will pay the price, it's not going to get better.
00:34:29.620You know, maybe it's time for the living to remind those who give health care to the dead who actually runs this country.
00:34:38.760This country, it's my country, it's your country, it's a country of the people who voted unlike I voted.
00:34:48.940It's the country of Democrats and Republicans and Independents.
00:34:52.740If you love the country, if you're trying to bilk the country, destroy the country, tear the country down, if you want to build a more perfect nation than it is your country, even if we disagree on virtually everything other than,
00:35:12.780then I want to build a more perfect nation that frees more people using the Bill of Rights and the Constitution, then it's your country too.
00:35:23.160But you're either part of the solution or part of the problem.
00:35:26.160And I see far too many people that are part of the problem.
00:35:29.580And many of them are in Washington, D.C.
00:35:32.340In fact, I think most of them are in Washington, D.C.
00:35:34.520You know, you wouldn't have a problem with whole communities just starting to bilk people, steal a billion dollars.
00:50:15.680But they want to, they just want to be left alone, let their kids, raise their kids, have a chance at some success and, you know, and, uh, and retirement.
00:57:46.780So he, if you robert something from the store or grab something from here to eat, nothing happened to you.
00:57:55.520So, but if you have your job and you enough income and you take care about your children and you have house and you have car and you rubber from any store or thief from here or there, you have.
00:59:02.460But my religion, which requires me to say peace be upon him.
00:59:08.420After I mentioned the Prophet Muhammad, my religion, which is extraordinarily well-defined, it has these laws in political Islam that must be done because the Quran requires it in political Islam.
00:59:28.420But we're not going to, I mean, yeah, we've got our own little laws going on.
00:59:33.600Now we've got our courts, but we're never going to go that far.
00:59:36.100Wait, wait, but you believe in political Islam.
01:00:27.420You know, we just take care of things like marriages.
01:00:30.060Oh, so when a guy says, I divorce you, I divorce you, I divorce you, you're divorced and she loses everything.
01:00:35.640Oh, you mean the kind of, if she wants to testify against her husband on adultery, she has to have two witnesses plus her because her voice and one other person as a witness does not equal him because she's not equal to a man.
01:01:22.700We're going to show you what's happening over in Europe and we're going to talk to somebody who's from England who says some frightening things because he just came to Texas.
01:01:47.180We live in a world that steals sleep a little bit at a time.
01:01:50.920The screens, the schedules, the stress, and somewhere along the way, we've just accepted that tossing and turning is just normal, but it doesn't have to be that way.
01:16:35.040At the beginning, because of compute power, we will be feeding those in and then producing and rolling out every day different podcasts or answers or whatever from George AI.
01:16:51.840I pray and I hope and I have pretty good advisors on what we're going to be able to do.
01:16:59.320And it depends on how many people are using it.
01:17:02.460And, you know, if we get people to help us in support, compute power, the cost of it will go down and we'll be able to afford bigger amounts of compute.
01:17:21.260And you'll be able to hopefully within the first year, you'll be able to have a one-on-one conversation like I just did.
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01:20:21.600And I feel like we accomplished our goal of, my goal at least, was just to open a door that others could walk through.
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01:21:21.300They were the only ones, they were the first in to say, we can do a live sports coverage.
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01:24:09.120Tonight we're going to do a special report on what is happening with the growth and influence of Islam.
01:24:17.720Ali Bastaki is going to be with us here in just a second.
01:24:21.540She's questioning, is the GOP doing enough?
01:24:23.960I don't think so, but I'm anxious to hear her.
01:24:26.540Also, Christopher Rufo joins me in just a few minutes.
01:24:29.600He is the new Blaze TV host of Rufo and Lomaz, and he's going to talk about how the Minnesota taxpayers were unknowingly funding the terror group Al-Shabaab.
01:24:41.180I'm anxious to talk to him about Tim Walsh and his role in all of this.
01:28:39.360We also have Christopher Rufo who's going to join me about a half hour.
01:28:43.360He is the one that is originally broken the story up in Somalia that is driving me out of my mind because these politicians are running to defend.
01:28:53.360How do you defend a billion dollars being stolen from the American people?
01:30:32.360It is amazing to me how this the awareness of this Islamic takeover of the West, how quickly it is spreading and how quickly people are waking up.
01:30:47.360I don't know about the politicians, but the average person is really starting to wake up to this.
01:30:54.360And of course, you've been warning about this for years, but I think a lot of people are just being infiltrate their neighborhoods that there's mosques where there used to be churches or where there used to be office buildings.
01:31:06.360There are people wearing hijabs in their elementary schools and middle schools.
01:31:12.360There are fewer people celebrating Christmas and Hanukkah around them.
01:31:16.360And you're told that you're not allowed to notice this and you're certainly not allowed to care about this.
01:31:21.360There's no such thing as American culture.
01:31:24.360You can't care about sharing these celebrations with your neighbors, but people do care.
01:32:11.360You know, I asked my Instagram followers, vast majority are women, probably 85% stay at home moms.
01:32:17.360And when I asked this question, my followers were about 850,000 on Instagram.
01:32:22.360And I just said totally open-ended wasn't looking for a particular answer.
01:32:25.360Hey, what is your biggest concern with America right now?
01:32:28.360I was just trying to come up with topics for my show.
01:32:31.360The number one answer over and over again was the spread of Islamic dominance where they are living in America in the West.
01:32:41.360This is very destabilizing for a lot of people and they are seeing it not just affect people far off like we used to, but affects their own neighborhoods and their own schools.
01:32:52.360And so, you know, usually politicians take a while to kind of wake up to what the populace is really scared of.
01:32:58.360We have seen some good action in Texas for sure, but this is a real problem.
01:33:02.360And it's not just an illegal immigration problem.
01:33:05.360And that's the uncomfortable part of this.
01:33:26.360Well, I think that they're scared of the violent crime that they've seen in places, maybe in their own city, but certainly in places where Islam has dominated.
01:33:35.360When we look at places like Dearborn, Michigan, when we look at our friends across the pond, that sexual crimes, that violent crimes all increase disproportionately when there is a large scale importation of people from these Muslim majority countries.
01:33:51.360Doesn't mean that they're all like that doesn't mean that they can't be good neighbors, but this is not only a cultural change.
01:33:58.360This is not only a shift in how their neighborhoods look and feel and the celebrations had and things like that.
01:34:04.360But this also is potentially a threat to their own safety, especially the safety of their daughters.
01:34:12.360I was talking to somebody who was doing a podcast with somebody over in London yesterday, and he was talking about this.
01:34:25.360And I said, you know, I'm not, you know, I don't follow the news all the time, you know, closely like I do in America about, you know, the United Kingdom.
01:34:35.360But what I'm seeing coming out of Ireland and when you think of Ireland, you think of a very Catholic country, you know, or Protestant, a very Christian country.
01:35:36.360Well, certainly progressives care about it when it comes to, you know, non British or non British countries or countries that are not America.
01:36:18.360I think it's a mistake on this one to say that it was empathy that we've gone down the road.
01:36:25.360I think this is especially if you look in Minnesota, they turn a blind eye to what's going on in in Minnesota.
01:36:35.360And I I'll bet you in Michigan as well, because if you don't have the Muslim population on your side, you're not going to be elected governor.
01:37:40.360But for the average person, especially for the woman, especially for the person who has been told that loving your neighbor means just accepting all forms of people, no matter what their behavior is.
01:37:53.360Then, yeah, I do think that people are more scared of Islamophobia or being called an Islamophobe than they are the Islamification of their neighborhood.
01:38:02.360In fact, I think they think that their virtue is tied to how much they like halal and how much they accept, you know, the the building of mosques around their neighborhood.
01:38:14.360And so I do think that people feel so strongly that being exclusive or intolerant in any way is a sign of being a bad person that they won't speak up because the immediate social incentive for speaking up against Islam or against soft on crime policies or anything.
01:38:45.360So I think that's a big part of what's going on.
01:38:48.360Love to hear your comments on Trump over the holiday.
01:38:53.360Tweeted out the official United States foreign population stands at 53 million people, most of which are on welfare from failed nations or from prisons, mental institutions, gangs or drug cartels.
01:39:04.360They and their children are supported through massive payments from patriotic American citizens who, because of their beautiful hearts, do not want to openly complain or cause trouble in any way, shape or form.
01:39:15.360They've put up what has been happening to our country, but it's eating them alive to do so.
01:39:21.360Wow, that's not very empathetic, is it?
01:39:24.360Right. That's exactly what he's talking about is toxic empathy.
01:39:27.360He's talking about our compassion as Americans being weaponized against us.
01:39:32.360The problem I wouldn't have said it's a problem, but now it's kind of becoming a problem is that for conservatives, we're thinking individually.
01:39:39.360We're thinking about our family and we're thinking, OK, whatever, just take my taxes, do what you have to do.
01:41:25.360Gosh, I pray to the Lord that that is true, that there is some kind of revival that we don't see.
01:41:30.360It's important to know that God's work doesn't always make headlines.
01:41:33.360It doesn't always go viral when it seems like he's just doing one thing.
01:41:36.360He's actually doing a million things in the unseen and unsung work of just faithful believers that might not have radio shows or podcasts, but they are doing God's work.
01:41:45.360And so I pray to the Lord that that is true.
01:42:03.360He works through the prayer of believers.
01:42:06.360He works through the obedience of believers, the boldness of evangelism of believers.
01:42:10.360We can't all change the world, but we can be faithful with whatever spot of eternity God has providentially placed us in to make it better for the glory of God, to share the gospel and to speak beauty and truth and goodness into whatever sphere we occupy.
01:42:25.360That is the responsibility of a Christian.
01:42:27.360That is how God has moved mountains for over 2000 years.
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01:45:56.360There is a civilizational war that's going on within the United States and the rest of the world has ignored it.
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01:50:00.360So I first ran into Chris Ruffo, I don't even know how many lifetimes ago.
01:50:12.360He was working for the city journal and he was starting to uncover things and he just started doing investigations on things that he cared about.
01:50:19.360And all of a sudden he is one of the best investigative reporters out there.
01:50:24.360Um, extraordinarily credible, um, right almost every single time.
01:50:30.360Uh, and he is joining us, um, at the blaze.
01:50:34.360He is the host now of his own TV show, Ruffo and Lomaz.
01:50:37.360Um, and, uh, he's the guy who broke the story a couple of weeks ago about the Minnesota taxpayers who are funding a terrorist group, Al Shabab.
01:51:29.360This socialization thing is good, but not like this.
01:51:32.360This socialized, Hey, let's help everybody, but not like this.
01:51:36.360I mean, you had a billion dollars taken from the taxpayers.
01:51:39.360A billion is, and I don't hear anything from the people of, I mean, if your government, if you were taken for a billion dollars and your money, you knew was being taken away from children who need food.
01:51:57.360They were faking all kinds of health issues for other children.
01:52:03.360And so taking money away from real autistic programs and then putting it in and sending it to a terror group, wouldn't you be kind of pissed?
01:52:13.360Cause I know I would be, are the people in Minnesota pissed about it?
01:52:18.360I mean, I don't think if it was my state, I don't think my governor would still be in the governor's office, but you know, maybe that's just me.
01:52:28.360Chris, we were just talking about, I mean, first of all, thank you for not only this story, but all the stories and things that you have exposed, uh, over the years.
01:52:37.360Thank you for doing all of the hard work and being credible the whole time.
01:52:41.360Um, it, it, it doesn't, am I more outraged by this story than the people of Minneapolis?
01:52:48.360Because they don't seem to have a problem with it.
01:52:55.360Actually, you're outraged about the proper thing to be outraged about, which is that a group that is a recent arrival was permitted kind of asylum refugee status into the United States, uh, has now systematically looted the treasury of the state of Minnesota.
01:53:10.360Uh, but Minnesota politicians are also outraged, but they're outraged that we've noticed this and that we've called this out and that we're saying this is not okay.
01:53:20.360And so you have the mayor of Minneapolis speaking in Somali saying that he's gonna, you know, uh, do whatever he can, uh, do whatever he can to, you know, to shelter the Somali community from any criticism at all.
01:53:32.360Uh, and I just find this, uh, borderline suicidal and the Scandinavian kind of Scandinavian founding, uh, culture of Minnesota is just being systematically exploited.
01:53:46.360And they seem to have no ability to even defend themselves against it.
01:53:51.360I mean, what's happened to Sweden is happening in, you know, in, in, uh, Minnesota.
01:53:58.360It's just, they take the kindness and the social is a, you know, the socialized everything, and they just absolutely abuse it until there is nothing left.
01:54:07.360Um, and I, you know, I don't, let me ask a question and, and I want to be really careful here because, you know, I, and I know you're not, nobody, nobody is reasonably saying this, that all Somalis just want to rip us off.
01:54:52.800Is this something that is being imported or is this just a handful of bad guys?
01:54:59.620Well, well, it's a little bit of both.
01:55:01.800And as you said, we have to be careful and precise and how we think about it.
01:55:05.980But what's happening is that obviously not every Somali is participating in these fraud schemes, but it's true that many, many, many, a extraordinarily high percentage of people in the Somali community.
01:56:20.380And so you can say, you know, there are absolutely great people, wonderful Somalis.
01:56:27.400The incredible Ayaan Hirsi Ali is a Somali, incredible woman.
01:56:32.020But the fact is, is that they're bringing the cultural systems from Somalia to the United States.
01:56:40.000And they're just fundamentally incompatible.
01:56:42.680That's that's the the the the the brass tacks, the bottom line, the end of the story.
01:56:49.520And and what I was looking for and hoping for was that Somali leaders would stand up and say, what's happening in our community is wrong.
01:56:58.580We're going to work with we're going to work with law enforcement to stamp out this corruption within our own house.
01:57:05.140But instead, they've gone just the opposite.
01:57:09.160They're promising that that members of their community should have no criticism and should operate with impunity.
01:57:17.980Tim Walls and even Mayor Frye, how do they survive this?
01:57:26.180Here's the here's the actual sad truth.
01:57:29.000I know conservatives are waiting for the backlash to sweep away these corrupt leaders and these feckless and incompetent politicians.
01:57:38.640But there's something about liberal culture where no amount of chaos, corruption, crime, murder, you know, theft,
01:57:50.400can dissuade, can dissuade them from their core beliefs that our society is bad and as a form of penance or or or kind of self-flagellation.
01:58:02.480We have to accept any amount of crime, provided that it's committed by people who can check the identity boxes.
01:58:10.560And so I'm actually pessimistic and skeptical of the idea that Minnesota voters are going to rise up and and demand that this corruption stop.
01:58:23.480You know, I remember Michelle Bachman came to my apartment when I was living in New York City, probably about 2008, maybe nine.
01:59:29.480Is this, you know, I hate America so much.
01:59:33.040Cloward and Piven kind of what what is this?
01:59:36.860So there's two arguments that have been floated to answer in an attempt to answer this question.
01:59:43.680The first argument is that the left knows how to gain power.
01:59:47.980And by importing dependent foreign groups into the into the populace, they have a client that can provide them with votes in exchange for patronage or in this case, corruption.
02:00:00.500And that this is a strategy to amplify their own domestic political power.
02:00:06.900The other hypothesis, and I think for me, the more persuasive hypothesis, is that this is just simple liberal naivete and a kind of suicidal empathy, as Gansad calls it, where they are blind to the consequences of their own actions.
02:00:27.460They judge on inputs rather than outputs, and for them, the measure is how compassionate can they be, and any imposition of limits or consequences is seen as a violation of core liberal principles.
02:00:43.100You know, it might be a combination of the two, but I don't, you know, again, barring evidence that emerges, I would assume that it's more the latter than the former.
02:00:54.680How do we know for sure that money went to Al-Shabaab?
02:01:02.940I mean, first of all, there have been schemes over the last decade where counterterrorism officials tell me that every time they're looking at ISIS recruiting, Al-Shabaab recruiting, radical Islamist recruiting, Minneapolis always shows up.
02:01:19.780And in fact, it is really the epicenter of foreign terror recruitment in the United States of America.
02:01:26.260But on the particular question of Al-Shabaab, there is the testimony of multiple counterterrorism officials who told us, hey, some of this money is getting siphoned off and essentially taxed by the Al-Shabaab terror network once it leaves the United States and goes into the Somali informal banking system.
02:01:49.320Even a left-leaning group like the Foundation for Defense of Democracies has long noted that Al-Shabaab skims almost all remittance payments that travel through the country of Somalia.
02:02:01.500And therefore, it stands to reason if people are stealing from the Minnesota government, sending that money back to Somali through the Hawala remittance system, and Al-Shabaab is taking their cut, we're talking about a significant amount of money, whether it's intentional or unintentional.
02:02:53.000How do we stop this if our politicians won't do anything in the states?
02:02:59.100Well, there's two things that we can do.
02:03:02.880I think, first off, in this particular case, federal prosecutors have done a great job uncovering these Somali fraud rings and implementing prosecutions.
02:03:13.540And so they really deserve enormous credit.
02:03:15.320But the federal government should do much more.
02:03:18.100And I would recommend that, you know, Health and Human Services and other welfare departments at the federal level stop all payments to Minnesota until they have a third-party audit, until they get their fraud under control.
02:03:31.880And, you know, ultimately, you have to stop giving these people money if you want them to change their behavior.
02:03:38.800And so I think a stop payment order on all federal funding to Minnesota programs where there are suspicions of fraud will help clean things up fairly quickly.
02:03:49.040But the reality is that we have a system in the United States where it's always a third-party payer.
02:03:55.100Health insurance, welfare programs, food stamps, autism services, whatever it might be.
02:04:03.100These are massive third-party payer programs.
02:04:05.560The incentives are, you know, not aligned with people actually enforcing the rules.
02:04:10.880And they become easy targets for fraudsters.
02:04:14.360And so Minnesota used to be famous for honesty, fair dealing, good government.
02:04:20.380And in just a short number of decades, their reputation has now been completely inverted.
02:04:26.940And it is, by all accounts, from all of the research that I've done, I think this is likely the largest systematic welfare fraud scheme in American history.
02:04:41.660And thus making it probably the world.