00:27:28.860Now, the other thing that I want to talk to you about is last night, I just told you the president had this meeting, and I'm worried where the president is going on this.
00:27:41.180I am a big supporter of President Trump and always will be a big supporter of President Trump, but I will call balls and strikes, and I think this one is a very bad strike.
00:27:53.780um uh i understand his motive on things he is frustrated because everything that he is building
00:28:03.800is the opposite of europe he is saying we must embrace the 21st century we must embrace new
00:28:13.200technology not to embrace this technology is honestly it's it's exactly what all of the
00:28:22.200carriage builders, but one, were doing when the car came out. The car came out and all the people
00:28:30.500that built nice carriages were like, we're not going to get involved in that. That'll put us
00:28:34.100out of business. There was one, it was called Fisher Carriages. And if you're my age, if you
00:28:40.600ever opened up a car and you look down at the plate, you know, the door plate, it would always
00:28:48.020say General Motors Fisher Carriage or Carriage by Fisher. Remember that? That was because they saw
00:28:56.580the assembly line and they went, holy crap, we are going to be out of business. Forget the horses.0.98
00:29:02.400We're going to build car carriages. We're going to build the body of the car. And we're going to
00:29:09.480go into that and it became General Motors. You have to embrace the new technology. And there's
00:29:15.960so much going on, and there's so much anti-AI stuff coming from China. Remember, who's telling
00:29:22.580you this, in many ways, I am a strong leader against ASI, and I'm worried about AGI, Artificial
00:29:32.800General Intelligence, Artificial Superintelligence. I'll explain those some other time if you don't
00:29:37.100know what those are, or just look it up real quick. Believe me, Grok will tell you exactly
00:29:40.960what they are. Those are very important. We are at AI, then comes AGI, then comes ASI. That's like
00:29:53.340stage two cancer, stage three cancer, stage four cancer. If you're worried about AI, don't worry,
00:30:01.540you got a little melanoma, okay? A little melanoma. You get AGI, you might be at stage three.
00:30:07.120you get uh asi you might be at stage four it could kill us all we don't know we don't know
00:30:17.640so president trump came out yesterday he doesn't like the word artificial because it implies what
00:30:23.440what is artificial what's another word for artificial he says it all the time it's fake
00:30:28.420fake news fake intelligence so he doesn't like the word artificial he likes the word
00:30:36.660super intelligence. Why? Because he believes it describes the potential that is in front of us,
00:30:47.000the potential to be able to do things, to be able to invent things, to be able to survive
00:30:53.300in the next 100 years, to be able to lead the world. He's saying, forget about the fake
00:30:59.280intelligence. Look at what's on the horizon. It's super intelligence, and it will propel us
00:31:06.020into the next century. All of this is really good. He is looking, he is a pioneer. It's amazing that
00:31:14.060this guy is 80 years old because he is a pioneer. He can see over the horizon. He knows what's coming
00:31:20.560in the positive. Remember, he doesn't like to think negative things. So he's concentrating
00:31:25.940on the positive and he's saying, this is what will pay down our national debt. This is what
00:31:31.980we'll make sure America leads the world for the next 100 years. We have to have it. And so he is
00:31:38.200pushing forward with this. The problem is, he knows the danger of nuclear war because he built it.
00:31:54.340He rebuilt the nuclear arsenal, his first term. He knows everything about it, and he studied
00:32:01.960it. The guy is not, especially when it comes to technology, the guy is, I think, borderline
00:32:09.160genius on this. His grasp of technology, his grasp of what, he called me one time when Elon Musk
00:32:17.840caught the rocket. And he was talking to me about the thrust power. He was like a kid.
00:32:24.600He was like, Glenn, do you know what the thrust is? Do you know what that takes to be? And he
00:32:28.780was explaining it all to me and I was lost. I had no idea. Okay. The guy is really good at tech.
00:32:35.620He understands it. He's also an optimist. So he is saying super intelligence. That's what he wants
00:32:42.520it called now. Super intelligence, not AI. Here's the problem with that. And I think the president
00:32:50.000is wrong on this. He's right for what he believes and he's right for the imaging and everything
00:32:55.760else. Here's where he's wrong. AI, AGI, and ASI are well-known categories, and they are not just
00:33:06.340milestones. They also act as warnings. They are mile markers. If you say superintelligence,
00:33:15.840what does it mean to the average person who barely understands AGI if they do at all? AGI,
00:33:22.860ASI. What does it mean when we say we've almost hit artificial general intelligence when we're
00:33:29.520all calling it super intelligence? It's not true. At this point, it's not true. It's artificial
00:33:37.720intelligence. Now, you can call it, you know, SI, super intelligence, all you want as a marketing
00:33:44.640thing, but you haven't really been able to explain AI, AGI, ASI and the mile markers and
00:33:54.480why they're important. Most people don't understand. What do we mean when we say,
00:33:59.700well, we're at the event horizon? What does that mean? I bet I could talk to a hundred people and
00:34:08.540maybe, maybe one could explain it to me. What does it mean we're at the event horizon?
00:34:14.120When Elon Musk said, I think we're at the event horizon a year ago,
00:34:18.100and then later came out and everybody was saying, we're at the event horizon.
00:39:41.960Truth is under attack in our culture. People are embracing lies about gender. They're rejecting the sanctity of every human life. And the government is even punishing people for saying what's true and right. Or worse, the woke mob is doxing them and slandering them with no due process. Just an angry mob making their lives miserable or worse, putting families in real danger.
00:40:02.900But the biblical principles on which our country was founded still matter.
00:40:06.700Real patriots and Christians are beginning to stand up.
00:40:10.180They're showing real courage without a safety net of a big bank account.0.93
00:40:13.580They're bolstered only by the truths that are self-evident.
00:51:20.140So I have to start with, you didn't even know this was being made.
00:51:28.780They invited you to see the movie, a screening of it,
00:51:33.380but they said you can only see it if you sign a release to promise to not sue us.
00:51:38.820Honestly, I didn't sign a release. I'd like to sue them for the time I wasted watching this horrific film. You didn't do that. What is the purpose of this film?
00:51:52.520I don't know, Glenn. It's so hyper sensationalized. It's so dark and so disconnected with reality. There is about as much connection between this film and reality as there is from a Scooby-Doo cartoon movie to what I do for a living.
00:52:35.640We want him involved in promoting the film.
00:52:37.560But rest assured, it's a love letter to Chris Hansen.
00:52:40.480Well, Glenn, if that's a love letter, I'd hate to get a poison pen letter from this particular director.
00:52:45.240My gosh. Oh, my gosh. I have to tell you, you know, Chris, it does expose you had an affair, but it showed that you tried to end it honorably.
00:52:57.160You know, you went this in the really, you know, bad section.
00:53:03.800Here's why even that part of it's dishonest.
00:53:07.520that tabloid stuff was was after to catch a predator right had nothing to do with it so
00:53:15.740they took something that was a tabloid two-week deal and they mixed it in with the to catch a
00:53:22.600predator scenario and had nothing to do with each other it was irrelevant the other thing they try
00:53:27.740to do to you the other thing they try to do to you but i i just have to say you know i'm not a fan
00:53:33.460of affairs but things happen people make mistakes you seem to try to be doing the honorable thing
00:53:40.160except for the way they spun this whole thing um and uh and then the other thing they try to do
00:53:47.520is make you into somebody who is just craven for ratings well that's that's just not true i mean
00:53:56.260they didn't talk to me about making this film they didn't want my input they didn't want the input of
00:54:01.480anybody who was involved in the film so here's what i think happened they set out to do a very
00:54:08.480dark dramatic uh film and the reason they didn't reach out to me or to anybody who was involved in
00:54:16.440the in the series or who's involved with our takedown series today on my streamer true blue
00:54:20.540is because they didn't want the truth they didn't want anything including the truth interfering with
00:54:26.540their dark uh delusional vision of this uh but then why it's my name the question is why i use
00:54:33.200my name and they use it because they wanted to exploit it for commercial value they know it's a
00:54:36.860brand i just don't understand what i mean honestly it looks like it has all of the joy of a snuff
00:54:45.840film um and it it is it was like it was either written by somebody who just has a personal
00:54:55.380vengeance against you. Um, or it's somebody who honestly doesn't like the fact that you've taken
00:55:04.860down pedophiles because I can't, I can't figure it. This is either a personal vendetta or it is
00:55:11.620a personal message because the only ones that look good in this really are the pedophiles.
00:55:17.140Well, in, in, in nothing happened in this movie that actually happened in real life,
00:55:23.260you know, as if I would have a dressing room in the Stinghouse sitting there shirtless with
00:55:29.620dressing lights all around me. That's just ridiculous. It's taken to such a such a absurd0.97
00:55:36.780level that when my wife and I went to go look at the movie to watch it here in New York City,
00:55:41.960I mean, we couldn't even it couldn't. It was hard to get upset because it was so over the top and so
00:55:47.100detached from anything remotely realistic. I mean, it was just, it's absurd. And I feel bad
00:55:55.320for all the people in this movie who are portrayed the way they are. I never had those discussions
00:56:00.820with my producer. I never had those discussions with the police. They make the police look like
00:56:05.180buffoons, which is unfair. They make me look like an egotistical, ratings-driven evil guy.0.93
00:56:13.420They made me look like a detached father and a bad husband.
00:56:16.360And those things are just not even close to reality.
00:56:19.680They make the people who actually agreed with what you were doing on taking them down, they made them look craven as well, just craven for blood.
00:56:31.200I mean, that guy, that scene with the guy on the airplane sitting next to you, like, you haven't done enough.0.99
00:56:36.420You just need to kill them and, you know, spill their blood or whatever.0.99
00:56:52.420I mean, let's remember that this is an industry that was ruled for years by one of the most prolific predators to walk the planet, Harvey Weinstein, who was just sentenced a week ago today in a courtroom not far from where I'm sitting in another case where he preyed upon a woman, sexual assault.
00:57:11.620And this is something that's been going on for years in Hollywood.
00:57:16.100And did that have something to do with the making of this film?
00:58:05.840Here are the facts of the case, Glenn.
00:58:07.620When we were conducting an investigation with the Murphy Police Department in Murphy, Texas, there was a man who was an assistant district attorney, Bill Conrad, who got caught chatting with decoys, posing as two different 13-year-old boys.
00:58:24.900The conversations were sexually explicit, which in Texas, like most states, is against the law just to have the chat, right?
00:58:31.840And in this particular time, it was election season in Texas.
00:58:38.000So commercials are running all over the place about people cracking down, people running for judge, people running for state attorney general, people running for district attorney who, you know, the videos were showing law enforcement guys rushing into a room and capturing predators.
00:58:53.640I mean, they were taking a stand against this.
00:58:55.160In this environment, this assistant DA services chatting with decoys posing as 13-year-old boys.
00:59:03.900Now, the Murphy Police Department makes the decision that they have enough evidence to go for a probable cause warrant and go arrest him on the next day.
00:59:13.400There is also evidence and some concern that he might be destroying evidence.
00:59:19.180Now, if you're worried about casting a television show, you'd wait till Monday when he was in his office at the district attorney's office and go get him there and make a big show out of it.
00:59:28.460They decided that they were going to arrest him on a Sunday at his home.
00:59:32.380We knew this, obviously. We followed along and were watching with our cameras from the street.
00:59:39.800They went in to arrest him. He had his laptop, apparently, according to the police, and a subsequent investigation by the Texas Rangers.
00:59:48.140and he had tried to extract the hard drive he looked at them said i'm not going to hurt you
00:59:53.000guys something to that effect and pulled out a gun and sadly took his own life now nobody wants
00:59:58.400to see that happen but nobody can predict it from happening and so later there was an investigation
01:00:04.500by the texas rangers which revealed that there were images of child pornography found on the
01:00:10.320hard drive of his computer as an assistant district attorney he would have known that each one of those
01:00:16.880images could have put him in prison for 10 years. Now, he made that decision. Tragic, horrible. I
01:00:23.440feel terrible for his family. Obviously, it would be better had he had his day in court and hired a
01:00:30.580lawyer for a vigorous defense, as everybody deserves in this country. But that's not what he chose to
01:00:35.660do. Now, there was no attempt to cover this up. I went on the Today Show the next morning. We
01:00:42.360We reported it in detail, what happened, what we knew, and where it was going.
01:00:48.500When that episode of To Catch a Predator was aired, the same thing.
01:00:52.640We reported it as it happened, factually.
01:00:56.740No attempt ever at any time in this series, Glenn.
01:01:03.020Every time, all along the way, from the very beginning in 2004,
01:01:07.460and including the stories we do today, the takedown predator investigations
01:01:11.000that we do all over the country, we have been and are painstakingly transparent about our
01:01:16.540methodology. People ask sometimes, you know, what's the weirdest thing or most shocking thing
01:01:22.380you've left on the editing room floor? Nothing. We show you everything. We show you exactly how
01:01:26.880we do it, with whom we do it, and you see the end product. So you weren't there on the front lawn
01:01:34.000crying uh quoting pornographic conversations there no no and no no decoy was singing show
01:01:41.420tunes to him i mean just it's so absurd insane i mean it's insane look i understand the decoy was
01:01:48.760interviewed in a documentary and and regrets being involved and feels bad that he actually
01:01:52.940talked to a man on the phone and committed suicide sure i get that and then he's entitled
01:01:56.520wouldn't but the rest of it didn't feel that way exactly um okay real quick you're still
01:02:04.360you're on true blue you're still doing this correct um tell us where we can watch you
01:02:09.480we produce the takedown episodes on my streaming network true blue watch true blue.com we also
01:02:15.100produce documentaries uh on everything from sextortion to we just had a documentary come
01:02:20.880called Dangerous Games, which delves into the problems with Roblox, the online gaming platform
01:02:28.420where so many kids are being approached by predators. And in fact, there was another
01:02:32.140documentary. I'm not a producer of it or executive producer, but before this film,
01:02:38.380before we even knew about this film, there had been a documentary in the works called I'm Chris
01:02:43.000Hansen, which is finished. And it's a, you know, it's a real profile of me and my work. And so
01:02:48.420So apparently there's going to be an announcement about where that's going to go in the next week or so.
01:05:54.460And we lost, we almost, almost lost one of our children to a predator.
01:05:58.700And if it wasn't the fact that we had multi lines and we could see a line light up in the middle of the night,
01:06:05.400my wife happened to wake up and catch it.
01:06:08.280And she went upstairs and found out we could have lost one of our kids to a predator over a game.
01:06:15.420That's where they're fishing for your children.
01:06:17.960This is real and no movie can diminish what it does to families and children.
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01:07:41.340over at glennbeck.com if you haven't had a coffee yet i assure you this will wake you up
01:07:49.180There's some new polls out that we need to talk about.
01:08:17.260First of all, let me give you some good news.
01:08:19.180Data from the Center for Disease Control and Prevention, CDC, show fewer high school-aged Americans are identifying as lesbian, gay, or bisexual.
01:08:44.440It's no longer what will make you the center of conversation.
01:08:48.860They say decline is largely driven by young women, according to the CDC's Youth Risk Survey of the U.S.
01:08:56.8809th to 12th graders in 2025, there is a relative decline in the LGB identification across each grade compared to two years earlier.
01:09:06.260Seniors ranging from the age of 17 and 18 had the highest rate of LGB identification among the four grades measured with 16% identifying as LGB.
01:09:15.680However, that was still two percentage points below the rate among seniors surveyed in 2023.
01:09:21.280Each grade had a lower LGB identification in 2025 than 2023.
01:15:35.300This thing that, you know, our real problems were caused when women, have you ever read James Madison, I mean, John Adams' wife, what was her name? Abigail. Have you ever read any of her letters? She was brilliant. That's not our problem.1.00
01:21:36.460But it's almost as if Alexander Dugan helped them write that letter because it was showed an understanding of the five different groups that we're splitting into, and it just played into those.
01:21:51.120It didn't say this, but it could have very easily because it talked to conservatives, and it talked about the problems with liberals and blah, blah, blah, and it talked to liberals about the problems with conservatives.
01:22:01.220I mean, it's amazing how well they did that, but I explained it earlier today as almost a how-to-continue-to-divide-us kind of instruction manual for the people who are the street warriors here in America because they were appealing to each of these disenfranchised groups.
01:22:25.840Everybody feels oppressed, and they were playing into that.
01:22:29.380I mean, it's, it's, it's so clear. And once you see this, then you can back away from it. Hopefully you back away from it, but Republicans and men, you've got to back away from this, this, you know, it's the problem is women and liberal women and blah, blah, blah.
01:42:42.980Before you hold that up to all the people in your life that you might have lost, hold that list up to your own face because that's the test that nobody takes on TikTok.
01:42:52.520If every relationship you've had ended with you as the innocent party, the common denominator is in your mirror.
01:43:02.680If you've diagnosed your mother, your ex, your boss, your brother, ask who's doing all the diagnosing here.
01:43:09.680The irony is that narcissist has become one of the most self-centered words in the language.
01:43:18.000It puts the whole story on the other person and lets the one who says it walk away cleanly.
01:43:25.200Boy, this is so our culture today, isn't it?
01:43:31.700So if you're still raising kids, praise the effort and character.
01:46:28.760First smile, first laugh, first word, first step.
01:46:31.400Parents write them down, take pictures, call the grandparents.
01:46:34.720But here's what we sometimes forget, that the time the baby is born, an incredible number of firsts have already happened.
01:46:40.200The first heartbeat, the first movement, the first hiccup, the first time those little hands open and close, the first time the baby hears mom's voice, those firsts matter too.
01:46:48.520Pre-born supports pregnancy clinics across America that provide free ultrasounds to women considering abortion, along with compassionate counseling and practical support that can go up to two years after the baby is born.
01:46:58.440That ultrasound gives the mom the opportunity to see a life that's already there and a child whose story hasn't even begun yet.
01:47:04.600It doesn't begin in the delivery room, but it continues on.
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01:49:58.120i can really use this next guest and i think many in the audience can too uh noelle merring she is
01:50:17.400a fellow at the washington dc based ethics and public policy center the author of awake not woke
01:50:22.740A Christian Response to the Cult of Progressive Ideology, co-author of Popular Theology of Home
01:50:29.480book series. She's published for the National Review, Newsweek, Daily Wire, Federalist American
01:50:34.000Mind, Catholic World Report, and she is the author of No Contact, How a Seductive Theology Broke
01:50:41.140Families and Friendships and How We Can Repair Them. That's the biggest thing. Nicole, thank you
01:50:46.120for coming on the, or Noelle, thank you for being on the program. You write, there's a new form of
01:50:52.200relationship estrangement afoot whereas in the past relationships tended to rupture over issues
01:50:57.820like abuse today people are increasingly estranged because of politics more than 68 million americans
01:51:03.920are currently alienated from close family members uh uh though uh going uh no contact is frequently
01:51:12.040framed as an act of empowerment and self-care what is happening to us yeah great question
01:51:20.120Well, you covered very well in your lead in what I think is the initial cause, social causes, which are, you know, social media, which inclines us towards traits of narcissism, but also habituates us into habits of relationship that include muting, blocking, unfollowing, curating our social circles, and then populate our content with TikTok psychologists, I call them, inviting people to examine their past for toxicity.
01:51:43.980But there are other causes. One is ideological and one is spiritual. So the ideological cause, there's a long fomenting academic pet cause called the abolition of the family.
01:51:55.940And what it has told us is that the family is a social construct. And so we can deconstruct it because it is nested in power structures.
01:52:04.340and so no longer is this a school of love or the means in which we have developed the capacity to
01:52:11.080love people when there's natural friction of intimate life now it's a structure of power and
01:52:16.720so those frictions that are normal to embodied living become start to look like oppression to
01:52:22.180us and so the family naturally starts to attenuate it starts to weaken even if somebody's never read
01:52:27.740any of this academic literature it's throughout their cultural pop culture and media and so what
01:52:33.360happens once that happens well the political tribe starts to cannibalize the familial tribe
01:52:38.160our loyalties our sense of belonging all the things that are properly and first or firstly
01:52:43.060fulfilled in the family and then in our faith start to become relocated into our politics
01:52:48.200and so when politic political division enters our family home that loyalty has a greater claim on us
01:52:54.860than our familial one and the division i think emanates from there so um
01:53:01.220you make a distinction between necessary estrangement and what you call the overuse of
01:53:07.900no contact. What's, what's the difference? How can you tell the difference?
01:53:13.460Yeah, here's a good analogy. I think that we all need a healthy immune system. We need to be able
01:53:18.940to identify and expel things that are threatening to us. But what I think is happening now in the
01:53:24.240ideologically driven no contact movement is more like an autoimmune disorder where we are no longer
01:53:30.740able to distinguish between what is dangerous from what is merely difficult. And so we wind
01:53:36.000up attacking things that are actually really vital to our survival. So that's the difference,
01:53:41.060I would say. Now, one signifier, whether or not you are going no contact out of necessity or not,
01:53:46.400are you willing to listen to objective voices that might push back on your narrative?
01:53:50.500That's a big signal that you are open to course correcting. Oftentimes, the kids,
01:53:55.700young adults who are going no contact, they don't want to hear any voice that might push back on
01:54:00.300their narrative. And in fact, the TikTok psychologist will encourage them to think of
01:54:04.800those voices as being also considered abusive too, because they're enabling whatever toxicity is in
01:54:11.140your family. So am I willing to course correct? Am I willing to hear objective voices that might
01:54:16.300give me feedback that is making me scrutinize myself a bit? That's a good sign that you might
01:54:22.180be not being driven by ideology. But how do you know what those trusted voices are? Because
01:54:28.020there are, quote, trusted voices by some that are part of this labeling of everything.
01:54:37.460These progressive psychologists or psychiatrists that are labeling absolutely everything.
01:54:44.640And it's like, I'm not going to sit down in a meeting where somebody's giving me this
01:54:52.360today bullcrap that is progressive and is not is part of the problem so how do you how do you do
01:55:00.260that how do you find because the other side will not go to a traditional person right no i think
01:55:07.500that's exactly right so one thing we have to reframe is that experts are not necessarily
01:55:11.440really should be considered authoritative in our life it's some and for certainly not people who
01:55:16.740are on the other side of a screen giving us kind of a narrative of toxicity that does not know our
01:55:22.780particular circumstances. I mean, that should be a red flag immediately if we're diagnosing our
01:55:27.680particular circumstances through someone on the screen. So how do we know? Well, I think, you know,
01:55:33.560if we are open to understanding who is actually wise and who in my experience does push back on
01:55:39.840me, you know, that person is not just a flatterer. That person is willing to help me arrive at the
01:55:44.200truth and has my good at heart. I'm willing to hear hard things. Yeah. I'm willing to hear hard
01:55:50.960things. I'm willing to examine and self-examine and we should all be there, but I'm not willing
01:55:56.280to be called a predator because I held the line on something that, you know, the family is sacred.
01:56:04.940You know what I mean? I'm just not willing to be called toxic because I believe in, in something
01:56:12.120that i'm not forcing you to believe you know my politics or my religion i'm not forcing that on
01:56:17.840you but i'm not going to adjust where i am you know because i'm not asking you to adjust where
01:56:24.040you are i'm just saying you have to accept certain things as a reality and that's not
01:56:29.740you know a uh that's not a toxic relationship unless you make it that yeah no i think that
01:56:36.640you know i i mean i this can happen to anyone in any political perspective but progressivism
01:56:41.440really induces people into what is called low differentiation, meaning I'm not able to
01:56:47.480see disagreement and not feel threatened by it. You know, that really is a sign of a healthy
01:56:52.920culture is if we can vocalize what we believe, even if we think somebody might disagree with it,
01:56:57.760and if we can hear someone else do that back to us. And I think the precipice of my nature does
01:57:02.720not help that. How do you deal with this? If somebody is out there, because I can't tell you
01:57:08.840how many people in this audience? I mean, I've never seen anything like it. We talked about this
01:57:13.520two days ago. We're still getting email. This is happening everywhere to people. So you're at home,
01:57:19.180you have lost a family member. They just will not return your call. They won't even tell you
01:57:25.680what you did wrong. What do you do? Yeah. Well, I recommend, and I have gleaned this from others
01:57:34.040to recommend this ending with something written down so because it's easy in the in the moment
01:57:39.760of confusion and pain to misremember what the person articulated so if you're being cut off
01:57:44.940or if your relationship is getting strained writing down exactly what you know to be true
01:57:49.420you're not self-incriminating but you're also trying to own something some piece of this that
01:57:53.980maybe i can own maybe i didn't respond to you out of curiosity and real caring maybe i got defensive
01:57:59.000i don't know some small thing and then express love and no accusation ending it with something
01:58:03.800written, and that your door is open. I mean, the father of the prodigal son is really our model
01:58:08.580here, who neither chases his child, nor does he try to control him or argue with him. He respects
01:58:17.020his interior freedom, and he doesn't sit back and lick his wounds, nor calculate all of his
01:58:22.160offenses, like the elder brother, but he tends to what is good in his life and then waits for him
01:58:26.880with eagerness. So if you have grandchildren, you just write a letter and then leave it alone,
01:58:32.860Or do you call all the time, even though you never get through?
01:58:36.240I mean, it's just it's non-stop wounding.