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00:03:24.480 filling in for glenn beck this morning is the show that's usually on after glenn beck each morning

00:03:35.540 here on blaze tv or maybe we're new to those of you listening to us on hundreds of stations around the

00:03:41.860 country my name is steve dace and if you are a blaze tv subscriber um good news and bad news um the bad

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00:04:32.780 um a lot to get to later on in the show today uh the latter part of this program the final two-thirds

00:04:38.980 we are going to take a look at some of the wider spiritual implications of what is going on in our

00:04:45.700 country because there there are things being discussed and being debated questions being asked

00:04:52.220 answers being given that are just unprecedented on a generational basis and frankly not all that

00:05:00.200 encouraging unless we understand the signs of the times and so we're going to try to do our best today

00:05:06.080 to equip you to do that as always you can let us know what you think about what we think you can

00:05:10.980 email us steve at stevedace.com follow me on twitter at steveday show you can look for me as well stevedace

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00:05:24.200 your feedback but the first feedback we value is aaron's rundown of what happened while we were away

00:05:30.980 what happened while we were away brought to you by the latest from the biden crime family

00:05:35.980 house oversight committee chairman james comer said monday he's going to begin the process of

00:05:40.800 holding fbi director christopher ray in contempt of congress despite viewing and being briefed by

00:05:46.740 bureau officials on the subpoenaed document that alleges president joe biden was involved in a

00:05:51.880 criminal bribery scheme the fbi brought the document in question to capitol hill on monday for comer and

00:05:57.740 ranking member jamie raskin a democrat to review in a secure facility that document is an fbi generated

00:06:04.320 form that allegedly describes a five million dollar criminal scheme involving then vice president joe

00:06:10.240 biden and a foreign national relating to the exchange of money for policy decisions late yesterday

00:06:15.800 afternoon congresswoman anna paulina luna raised a ton of eyebrows when she tweeted out the following

00:06:21.000 quote just left meeting for house oversight the fbi is afraid their informant will be killed if

00:06:26.400 unmasked based on the info he has brought forward about the biden family moving on new hampshire

00:06:32.940 governor chris sununu tells cnn he's not going to run for president in 2024 when you look at what's

00:06:38.620 happening out there you obviously have a very large field um i think the former president trump is doing

00:06:43.680 much better in the polls than folks thought and when i looked at where my voice can be how we make the

00:06:48.720 republican party uh bigger the responsibility that i think i have in terms of focusing on the republican

00:06:53.820 party and ultimately focusing on the opportunities for the country um and having a little more of a

00:06:58.200 candid a little more unleashed voice former vice president mike pence has filed paperwork to run for

00:07:03.180 president florida first lady casey de santis at this point may be the target of more hit pieces and 0.99

00:07:08.020 pointed criticism from mainstream media than jill biden and michelle obama combined the latest example

00:07:13.660 is this headline from the daily beast casey de santis is the walmart melania that's a piece from the

00:07:19.900 executive editor at the daily beast katie baker attempting to trash cancer survivor casey de santis 0.99

00:07:26.280 a former intelligence official turned whistleblower has given congress and the intel community inspector

00:07:31.920 general extensive classified information about deeply covert programs that he says possess retrieved

00:07:38.760 intact and partially intact craft of non-human origin the whistleblower is 36 year old david charles

00:07:45.840 grush a decorated former combat officer in afghanistan and a veteran of the national geospatial

00:07:51.880 intelligence agency in the national reconnaissance office in an exclusive interview he told the

00:07:56.940 website the debriefing that the information he obtained about unidentified aerial phenomena as well

00:08:02.300 as the aforementioned extraterrestrial crafts have been illegally withheld from congress and he's filed

00:08:08.060 a complaint alleging he suffered illegal retaliation for his confidential disclosures the social media

00:08:14.500 accounts for the children's television shows sesame street and peppa pig as well as the children's toy

00:08:20.100 play-doh and little league baseball are among those children's centric organizations who came out this

00:08:25.640 weekend with rainbow adorned posts doing the siegheil to the rainbow flag meanwhile target's stock has been

00:08:32.200 downgraded by jp morgan from essentially a buy to neutral meaning the country's largest bank is souring on the

00:08:38.600 company's value in completely unrelated news or not this video from several years ago of blackrock

00:08:44.140 ceo david fink is making the rounds again blackrock as you know is that multinational huge investment

00:08:50.340 company this video says a lot about what you're seeing from huge corporations during the month of

00:08:55.180 june and throughout the rest of the year you have to force behaviors and if you don't force behaviors

00:09:02.060 whether it's gender or race or just any way you want to say the composition of your team

00:09:08.140 you're going to be impacted and it has to be imbued in the culture of a firm it has to be talked about

00:09:14.820 it has to be shown behaviors across the entire firm in every region have to be similar and every citizen

00:09:23.940 of the firm has to understand what is acceptable behaviors and what are unacceptable youtube is reversing

00:09:30.240 a policy that banned all commentary about elections being stolen or rigged in the aftermath of the

00:09:35.560 2020 election youtube enacted the policy removing all content that stated or insinuated the election

00:09:41.900 wasn't the most secure election in human history in reaction to this new cnn's kirsten powers who wrote

00:09:48.440 the 2015 book the silencing how the left is killing free speech had this to say if the problem is that

00:09:55.440 oh people aren't going to be able to upload things that republicans are saying maybe republicans

00:09:59.920 just stop saying it right is that not the solution to the problem apple has unveiled its brand new

00:10:05.700 augmented reality headset the company says the product named vision pro will revolutionize

00:10:11.960 wearable technology and create a new platform for consumer computing the ar headset will retail for

00:10:18.100 about 3500 when it goes on sale and finally this from the babylon b apple allows child laborers to 0.98

00:10:25.580 wear vision headsets at work so it seems like they're at the playground and that's what happened

00:10:30.200 well we were away first i want to thank the daily beast for reminding me i've got to go to walmart

00:10:34.580 actually later today so there's that i gotta add that to my to-do list um i think the timing of youtube

00:10:41.780 which is the second largest search engine on this planet the largest video provider on this planet

00:10:49.420 i think the timing of them lifting the uh the moratorium the censorship ban on questioning

00:10:55.700 elections i find that to be multi-tiered i mean just yesterday i think it was robert f kennedy jr said he

00:11:00.960 still thinks that john carrey won the 2004 presidential election for example so i think you could look at

00:11:07.160 this a couple different ways um uh you know if you have to sometimes look at things from your opponent's

00:11:13.480 perspective not to say that you should adopt your opponent's views but to strategically understand where they

00:11:18.520 are coming from they think discussion about re-litigating the last election is a loser for our

00:11:24.180 side they think that so since youtube is an instrument of their side it could very well be that they are

00:11:29.460 lifting it now that we are heavily into the primary season and everything else and yes you guys keep

00:11:34.180 running on re-litigating the 2020 election because that's unpopular i could see that being the strategy

00:11:39.120 over there at at google youtube i could see that being the strategy there um it could also you could also

00:11:44.820 maybe assume that they are looking at some of the polls recently and and contemplating they might

00:11:50.280 lose that's it and they need to be the ones questioning the integrity of elections moving

00:11:54.380 forward in 2025 and beyond so let's just go ahead and uh lift that puppy right now and clear the air

00:12:00.840 thoughts whatever the worst possible explanation is it's probably that one that's true you think it's

00:12:06.060 the latter more than the former absolutely i could see that as well uh on the the biden crime family

00:12:11.760 stuff here here's where i am at on all this stuff and it's why if you follow me on twitter at steve

00:12:17.060 day show you don't see me pontificate with long threads about it uh these stories and it's not like

00:12:22.740 i'm not interested i'm not informed and don't care um i want the republican party to prove to me that it is

00:12:29.300 interested and it cares otherwise it's just a talking point anybody anybody shocked

00:12:35.540 james comber from kentucky has a lifetime liberty score at conservative review of 75 percent that's

00:12:44.980 very average average and really indistinguishable he's not excellent at anything and now suddenly he

00:12:55.620 is the ezekiel watchman on the wall with the biden crime family come on man

00:13:00.720 it's more likely he's carrying water for democrats yeah they're going to exit biden stage left yeah i

00:13:07.600 mean well convince them that they give them the ground to do that but this is a week after they

00:13:13.600 sold us out on the debt ceiling and we'll get to that at the bottom of the hour with our good friend

00:13:17.120 and colleague here at blaze media daniel horowitz how the republicans essentially republican leadership

00:13:22.920 essentially took every last meaningful fight we were going to have in this congress and punted until

00:13:29.480 2025 thus making your vote in the 2022 midterms irrelevant already unless prove me wrong i don't

00:13:38.720 want any more this is all a dog and pony show and contempt of congress and everything else with chris 0.57

00:13:43.340 ray this is this is kevin mccarthy three weeks ago tweeting out adam shift should be expelled from

00:13:49.100 the house is there anybody that has a job that might make you uniquely positioned to

00:13:56.620 to pursue such a and and an action with what you know like if there was somebody who like led the

00:14:03.180 house you know presided over it and and like had a symbol like you know a gavel or something in their

00:14:09.380 hands that would and and a seat that clearly demonstrated that they were in charge of this

00:14:14.800 uh fine institution this venerable institution that was uniquely empowered to pursue said action but

00:14:22.280 apparently no such office exists so we're just going to tweet things all right so i don't want to hear

00:14:29.940 the speaker say adam shift should be expelled i want to watch him expel him i want to hear any more

00:14:37.380 talking points or press conferences or cryptic tweets all right do or do not there is no try 1.00

00:14:44.360 faith without works is dead get off your rear ends do your damn jobs we don't care enough 0.99

00:14:50.080 this is just all talking points democrats had the exact same slim majority man they end up impeaching 1.00

00:14:58.440 trump for stuff he was proven correct about ukraine and quid pro quos enough action or nothing nothing

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00:16:24.160 all right back here on the glenn beck program steve dace filling in from the steve dace show

00:16:39.700 alongside totters and aaron mcintyre filling in for our great blaze tv patriarch the hall of famer

00:16:45.100 glenn beck today much of our show this morning is going to be devoted to what is happening in our

00:16:51.600 culture in the unseen realm that is spilling out into what we are seeing in our dead in our daily

00:16:58.160 headlines almost at our deadly headlines i would have been a freudian slip that would have been

00:17:01.140 cash money homie all right we will actually today have a follow-up because we're doing five straight

00:17:06.260 hours so the steve dace show that you will watch after we're done here on the glenn beck program today

00:17:11.060 on blaze tv will be a direct follow-up to this conversation we're going to play a little game today

00:17:16.480 we're going to talk to a couple of really important thinkers on spiritual matters in the next couple of

00:17:21.340 hours on the show and then we're going to go right into our daily program on blaze tv here on the

00:17:27.200 steve dace show right after glenn here today and we're going to take what they told us and they taught

00:17:32.420 us and shared and we're going to apply it to daily headlines and i prepared a list of what i think are

00:17:38.180 the are the 10 most pressing contemporary political issues that we are looking at and we're going to play

00:17:44.580 a little game today later today on blaze tv demonic or just democrats demonic or just democrats meaning

00:17:52.260 is it just good old-fashioned political debate albeit more radical than a previous era or is

00:17:57.880 there more here than meets the eye is there more happening than we think um and is the unseen realm

00:18:03.300 spilled over into the realm that we can see and touch and feel so we'll do that today right after we're done

00:18:08.560 filling in for glenn this morning five straight hours of us right here if you are a blaze tv subscriber

00:18:13.440 if you're not you want to at least get the podcast just look for me steve day show on itunes spotify

00:18:18.760 stitcher etc all right elsewhere in aaron's montage i want to discuss chris sinunu's announcement

00:18:25.480 yesterday because for those of you that don't know me or aren't familiar with our show we live in iowa

00:18:30.580 the first of the nation caucus state we broadcast from there every day that's where our studio is in

00:18:35.700 fact in the heart of iowa des moines right smack dab in the middle of the state and that was really how

00:18:41.000 i cut my teeth in this industry was doing local news talk radio on the big clear channel blowtorch

00:18:47.900 there who radio uh and kind of stumbling into being influential in the iowa caucus process i i was young

00:18:56.220 new i didn't have a clue i wasn't i mean i didn't really have an idea just how prominent

00:19:02.260 that media platform was going to be and the doors that it was going to open for me and it's just

00:19:09.100 that's just been part of what we do ever since and so we're already been very involved in the

00:19:13.860 caucus process i've been involved in every iowa caucus from a low-level activist that walked my

00:19:19.880 fellow alan keys delegates to their seats at the iowa straw poll in 1996 to uh you know whatever it is

00:19:26.440 that is that it is you see today and one of the things i have to do every single cycle is clear up

00:19:31.840 a crap ton of misconceptions about what goes on in the iowa caucuses uh chris sununu not my brand

00:19:39.700 of republican certainly uh and and understand pretty much any time a republican republican talks about

00:19:44.940 uh growing the party what they really mean is replacing you and you're and diluting your voice that's

00:19:50.780 what it really means so not my brand of republican at all but i'm into the truth and the truth is he's

00:19:55.820 very popular in new hampshire he has a 65 approval rating last time i looked and that's actually down

00:20:02.360 from 72 a few months prior him not running for president is a big deal because you have our

00:20:09.540 traditional iowa new hampshire parlay and if he were to run i get emails from grassroots activists

00:20:15.820 in new hampshire we don't like him and i i'm sure you don't but you're only going to be a small it's a

00:20:20.340 primary not a caucus in new hampshire i mean more than a quarter of a million people are going to vote

00:20:24.660 and so sort of that you know low information gop primary voter that loves sending lindsey

00:20:29.580 graham to the senate for 30 years they're gonna have a big say in a state like new hampshire not

00:20:33.520 so much in iowa because of our caucus process um and and that kind of republican loves chris sununu

00:20:39.340 almost called him his uh father's name john um him not running though means that will guarantee

00:20:45.580 that new hampshire will be fully um contested i'm not sure what the only two candidates who really

00:20:52.480 matter trump and desantis i'm not sure how they would have handled new hampshire if he were not

00:20:56.300 in the race but for people who say all that matters is national polls keep this in mind

00:21:00.760 no republican that didn't finish in the top three in iowa has ever won the presidency

00:21:05.800 no republican who except one who didn't finish in the top three in iowa has even won the nomination

00:21:11.300 and he finished fourth by 0.39 points and 10 of the 12 republicans to win the presidency

00:21:18.240 since the primary process that we know today began in 1976 uh won the new hampshire primary

00:21:24.260 so and all i think five republicans ever have won both iowa and new hampshire in the same cycle

00:21:31.580 and every single one of them became the nominee so yeah you bet your rear end these early states

00:21:37.180 matter quite a bit uh and and now we know what is it today june 6th we know now for sure that both

00:21:44.300 iowa and new hampshire will be fully contested and fully open as our traditional primary parlay so

00:21:51.340 the calendar now is set and now they're off the race is on and may the best man win all right when

00:21:58.780 we come back here in a moment i mentioned earlier the debt ceiling deal that was cut last week that

00:22:03.420 essentially took every meaningful fight that you voted for republican congress last year off the

00:22:07.820 table until proven otherwise one of them is a reckoning of what was done to this country the last

00:22:14.500 few years via covid19 people still have not been held accountable we still don't have a nuremberg

00:22:21.660 like trial and nuremberg like punishments and there's new data out that shows we need it now more

00:22:28.060 than ever we'll discuss next

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00:24:18.620 all right back here on the glenn beck program steve dace filling in alongside totters and

00:24:23.180 an aaron mcintyre we are the steve dace show and if you are a blaze tv subscriber you know who we are

00:24:28.300 and you're going to get plenty of us today five straight hours of us here on blaze tv so our show

00:24:34.060 is still to come after this one we're going to spend a good deal of time the next two hours on the show

00:24:40.220 looking at whether or not more than meets the eye is happening in our culture today when you look at

00:24:45.420 the sorts of debates we are having are having now they have crossed over long ago from the

00:24:50.620 political to the existential so we'll get into that over the next couple of hours but we're going to

00:24:54.380 have a bit of an existential conversation right now earlier this year uh my colleague here at blaze

00:24:59.820 media and i uh my colleague daniel horowitz and i we wrote a best-selling book that was released

00:25:05.100 earlier this year rise of the fourth reich confronting covet fascism with a new nuremberg trial so this never

00:25:11.260 happens again you can still if you've not gotten the book it is still up on amazon right now by the

00:25:15.740 way you can also uh try and read the introductory chapter if you want for free at trials and execution

00:25:21.820 dot com trials and execution dot com or just get the book on amazon we structured this book after a

00:25:27.180 mock nuremberg trial and if you know anything about daniel and i we brought receipts when you put daniel

00:25:31.900 and i together you get 400 pages of them that's how many receipts are in this book and a lot of the

00:25:36.460 receipts though come in the way of witness testimony interviewing whistleblowers from the

00:25:41.340 department of defense the the health care sector uh individual americans who greatly suffered the last

00:25:47.020 few years under the lockdowns the masks um the the edicts uh the the poison poke that we are still

00:25:53.420 suffering from today and last year it the republicans keep in in washington anyway keep finding a way to

00:26:03.340 actually out uh pessimist me like i was convinced even even in my normal pessimistic self that they

00:26:12.460 would give us some form of tribunal on covet even it was just the origins of the virus because they

00:26:17.820 need to keep us occupied because i knew they would surrender on the debt and everything else they

00:26:21.500 couldn't just do nothing for two years they had to feed us something to keep us distracted well

00:26:26.540 lo and behold as we welcome daniel horowitz to the program daniel we are sitting here now in early

00:26:30.860 june they have been in congress now the republicans in charge for six months they have provided us

00:26:35.340 absolutely nothing of substance on covid that's origins on any of the other um alleged solutions that

00:26:41.980 were worse than the disease nothing for six months and with this debt deal they basically are going to

00:26:47.020 continue to finance this now into perpetuity and this is coming ironically my friend at a time

00:26:52.860 that all kinds of data is coming out now and from a lot of mainstream sources verifying the kinds of

00:26:59.500 things people like you and me have been saying for years and we document in our book rise of the

00:27:03.020 fourth right all right let's come back to me apparently we're having issues with them hearing

00:27:06.620 daniel horowitz and we're not we're not exactly sure why so

00:27:13.260 let me start aaron can you work on that for us please and then let let me let me just give you an

00:27:17.660 example of some of the data that has come out just recently uh off the top of my head here um latest

00:27:24.540 study latest data out of the uk finding about 90 of those who died with covid um in the most recent

00:27:33.580 report were actually uh fully jabbed fully jabbed 90 90 90 90 percent which means what three to four

00:27:42.780 shots yeah yeah that would that would mean that would mean a dose and a booster now under the current

00:27:47.740 definition yes um we uh we've we've seen studies where the the poke leads to um what are called

00:27:55.500 blood clots ocular blood clots that that can lead to blindness um i think we have daniel back daniel

00:28:02.460 you're there let's try it again can you hear me all right go ahead uh start over with what you were

00:28:06.300 saying apparently they couldn't hear you on in in radio land i want to make sure they hear everything

00:28:10.140 you had to say so start over brother sure steve i mean here's the deal the worse these shots

00:28:15.900 get or at least the more they're exposed the less republicans do about it when we said that there

00:28:22.220 needs to be a reckoning for if there's not a reckoning this will happen again i didn't think

00:28:26.620 it would happen that quickly they are already doing what they did with the covet shots on rsv

00:28:32.540 a lot of people don't realize that within the last few months the fda and cdc advisory committees

00:28:39.900 held hearings on the rsv shots from gsk and from pfizer and they admitted that there's problems with

00:28:47.020 Guillain-Barre syndrome there's problems with prenatal uh birth you know premature births

00:28:53.020 there was a woman a pregnant woman in her 30s who died in the gsk trial in the moderna trial

00:28:59.580 moderna has not been approved yet but it will there were 200 adverse events 10 serious ones

00:29:05.660 per one mild case avoided based on their fraudulent data so you have prima facie

00:29:13.580 negative cost benefit matrix there and they approve it anyway this is going to go in the arm of every

00:29:20.460 senior and then they're going to go down the totem pole uh to children they're going to put it on the

00:29:26.700 child vaccination schedule rsv was the original shot that had negative efficacy as you noted we find out

00:29:34.860 every day the data and the mechanism behind the data of why there is negative efficacy um as as the

00:29:43.500 antibodies wane um antibodies are not lollipops i mean i think that's what we should all learn

00:29:49.420 you would think people with mds would understand basic pre-med immunology but god created the right

00:29:56.460 sort of antibodies in the right amount amount in the right classification and the right time and place

00:30:01.820 in your body now maybe you could replicate that once in a while steve but that that's a tall order

00:30:07.180 the notion that we can um prick people with 72 jabs before they're 18 years old and and that

00:30:14.540 number is rapidly rising uh if we allow what's in the pipeline to get into people's arms the notion

00:30:21.260 that you could add all that inflammation in the body and you don't have auto antibodies

00:30:25.820 is absurd and i think you know there's a lot we can talk about what has come out new since the book

00:30:33.100 has come out but to me one of the biggest ones is that german study which is now peer-reviewed in

00:30:39.820 journal vaccines that discovered this igg4 classification of antibodies at insanely high levels in those who are

00:30:49.980 jabbed with the pfizer shot and what's igg4 it's really the rosetta stone to why to what we're seeing

00:30:57.660 the more you inject the more you infect rather than them being neutralizing antibodies they're tolerating

00:31:06.220 antibodies so they're a trojan horse that they tolerate the pathogen which is why you get it more

00:31:13.580 often but what what the peer-reviewed version showed steve it's not just the negative efficacy

00:31:19.980 what happens when you suppress the immune system when you tamp down you compete with the proper

00:31:28.300 neutralizing antibodies for these tolerating antibodies well they say increased igg4 synthesis

00:31:35.500 due to repeated mrna vaccination with high antigen concentrations may also cause

00:31:41.900 autoimmune diseases and promote cancer growth and autoimmune myocarditis so meaning not just

00:31:51.020 myocarditis from the spike protein the blood clotting but also from your body itself the immune system

00:31:57.020 attacking the heart muscle and increased cancers because you know every time you're talking about

00:32:03.020 immune suppression so you have negative efficacy against pathogens we're seeing a lot more respiratory

00:32:07.980 viruses we're actually seeing an uptick in rsv because of the covid shots oh and now they have

00:32:13.260 leaky rsv shots to deal with that have you killed and have you inherited as elijah said to ahab but in

00:32:21.100 addition you're going to see cancer because your immune system is also a surveillance against cancer i

00:32:27.020 mean this is a german peer-reviewed study in vaccines obviously we have the cleveland clinic study that

00:32:33.100 achieved peer review recently uh 50 000 health care workers showing a direct correlation with the more

00:32:39.180 doses you had the more often you get the shots there's another study out of germany that pardon me

00:32:44.780 daniel there's another study study came out of germany just last week that showed mysteriously that

00:32:49.180 that's that's almost exactly the wording something happened we can't tell you what it is but something

00:32:53.740 happened in the spring uh of of 2021 that that ever since has led to this uh abnormally high spike in excess

00:33:00.700 deaths and the timetable just happens to coincide with that here in our country that there was that

00:33:06.620 german study as well and what's important about that is is that this is a long-term problem so the hope is

00:33:14.140 you maybe flush the spike protein out of your body after a couple of months but but the problem with that is

00:33:20.140 long-term autoimmune long-term you know diminished cancer um surveillance among your immune system you

00:33:30.540 know various components of the immune system and then again how your immune system could attack

00:33:35.100 your heart muscle that's a long-term problem because you know you look at some of what we're seeing in

00:33:39.420 the uk in the uk the all-cause mortality increase is not going down in fact the week ending march 31st

00:33:49.340 that's pretty recently okay it's about two months ago almost nobody's getting new shots now 21.5 percent

00:33:57.580 um increase in the five-year baseline of of uh excess deaths there yeah you had in quebec a couple months

00:34:06.860 ago they had the worst month of mortality of the entire pandemic so these studies are starting to shed

00:34:13.900 light on this i'll share one more with you we had quickly biologist kevin mckernan on on on my podcast

00:34:21.100 and he's the first person to test the vials and he found an unacceptable level of these dna double

00:34:28.700 stranded dna plasmids floating around because um the the rna is derived from from dna and it's taken

00:34:38.940 from e coli actually and they're supposed to take that out you take out the contaminants

00:34:45.660 but they're there and what he was concerned about is that this could pretend a greater risk for

00:34:52.140 anaphylaxis for blood clotting for developing resistance to antibiotics um gene integration

00:34:58.700 as well because now you've got the dna floating around in there and then also the long-term production

00:35:04.060 of spike protein because the question is do you have the dna which is the the the gun to fire more

00:35:10.780 of that mrna to produce the spike long term and when you start seeing on at an epidemiological level

00:35:18.380 all of this record high excess mortality long after the take-up of the vaccine when really

00:35:25.260 nobody is getting it that lends a lot of credence to the fact that this might be a long-term problem

00:35:30.700 and that the estimated according to ethical skeptic and other data points we've seen about 550 000

00:35:37.820 vaccine deaths in the u.s that could just be the opening act so essentially what went on here is

00:35:43.340 for up to six months depending on where you live in the country you were denied anything other than

00:35:47.340 emergency care that means pre-screenings uh any kinds of things that they would do traditionally

00:35:52.220 for age groups on any serious maladies and particularly with cancer or heart disease you

00:35:56.940 were denied those things uh because of covet in the lockdowns and then right out and shortly thereafter

00:36:01.900 they introduced a toxin into the into the into the community and into the country right after they 0.85

00:36:07.740 denied you six months of preventative health care because you cannot mess with the immune system at warp

00:36:12.780 speed that's what happened here when we come back i have a ratio and a big one last big question i want

00:36:18.940 to ask my co-author of rise of the forthright daniel horowitz our colleague here at blaze media in a moment glenn back

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00:37:46.780 all right back here to close out hour one on the glenbeck program i'm steve dace alongside my

00:37:51.340 colleague and co-author of rise of the fourth reich daniel horowitz daniel as you know back

00:37:56.300 in january rasmussen came out with a poll that showed about seven percent of american households

00:38:00.620 believe uh that uh they know or someone they know had suffered some form of a serious adverse event or

00:38:08.300 died as a result of the covet vaccine also that month the michigan state professor came out after

00:38:13.260 looking at the cdc's v-safe data in 2021 so just the first year of the vaccine rollout and he found that

00:38:19.500 there was about a seven percent uh at serious adverse event ratio within the v-safe data i did

00:38:25.180 the math on that so if 2.1 percent of covet infected were hospitalized according to cdc 0.6 percent is the

00:38:32.220 covet ifr and both of those are before we stratify for age and comorbidity uh and seven percent suffered

00:38:39.580 a serious adverse event that would mean that you were 233 percent more likely to suffer from the jab than

00:38:46.380 be hospitalized from covid and that you were a thousand and 67 percent more likely to suffer from

00:38:51.820 the jab than die from covid and that's actually using 2021 data when the jab was the most efficacious

00:38:58.860 i've got about 90 seconds left what's up what's the big point from what i just said

00:39:04.940 again the the cost of covid is sunk not that this work again worked against it anyway but as far as the

00:39:12.860 cost of the vaccines that's just the opening act that's what's important to remember we need

00:39:19.340 all that money that by the way republicans refuse to claw back in the debt ceiling deal for vaccines

00:39:24.700 we not need that going into treatment because then there's the issue of the next generation

00:39:29.420 what we found is that the european medicines agency has all these post-pharmacovigilance uh documents

00:39:35.820 and 54 percent of the 458 pregnant women that they observed experienced adverse events 11.6 percent

00:39:44.460 experienced miscarriages and most notably six of the babies experienced serious aes that they caused

00:39:51.900 that they considered that the vaccine transferred trans placentally that is a term they use trans

00:39:59.420 placentally we now know it transfers through the placenta we know it transfers through the

00:40:05.180 mother's milk and we know that the cohort of people still getting the vaccine because they're

00:40:11.500 pressured like anything are pregnant women so we're not even done with it for this generation 1.00

00:40:19.180 but we now have a problem even for the next generation that themselves didn't necessarily get

00:40:23.420 the shots and there is no reckoning even as they're doing the same thing with rsv flu and by the way

00:40:31.100 they're going to create these annual combo shots all right we got to go hey are you up to date on your

00:40:35.660 covid flu rsv booster this is still going on thank you daniel good to see you get your copy of rise of

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00:44:11.660 all right back here on the glenn beck program i am steve dace he's totters and he's aaron mcintyre

00:44:17.820 we are usually on after glenn beck right here on blaze tv and we will be again today that's right

00:44:23.260 you are getting five consecutive hours of the steve day show here on blaze tv those of you that are

00:44:29.260 listening on hundreds of stations around the country good news for you you're only getting three we

00:44:33.740 figured um you've suffered enough uh and people pay us at blaze tv to suffer accordingly uh and no

00:44:42.060 no mas no mas and and suffer they shall for five straight hours today here on blaze tv all right

00:44:48.620 the next four hours of me and todd and aaron both on glenn show and then on our show we are going to

00:44:56.940 focus on what is going on spiritually in the culture today and about eight years ago i wrote a book

00:45:05.420 uh called a nefarious plot that i patterned after c.s lewis's the screw tape letters and i

00:45:11.820 kind of wanted to take it a step further from the temptation of individuals to the takedown of an

00:45:16.300 entire country and some of it i i thought is is things that might happen in the distant future

00:45:21.660 i thought were happening now and you know reading the book now will literally scare the hell out of

00:45:26.620 you because it's amazing how and sad how prophetic it now is and i got a call uh a few months after the

00:45:32.620 book came out out of the blue from a couple of guys uh a couple of charismatic catholics name uh

00:45:38.860 carrie solomon and chuck consulman called me out of the blue one day and said hey we want to

00:45:43.260 we want to we want to buy the movie rights to your book our colleague chris jones heard you talking

00:45:47.900 about it here on glenn beck show and we think it would make a a hella movie and they were just about

00:45:53.740 to begin working on the unplanned film and this was their next movie and then covet hit and

00:45:58.540 little did we know that would just be the beginning of a myriad of challenges to bring

00:46:02.380 this film uh to the screen uh nefarious was in theaters uh i think last week was the last week

00:46:08.140 of its run we lasted eight weeks in movie theaters across the country despite incredible obstacles to

00:46:14.540 even get the film made uh and and distributed it's now out on streaming around the country uh yesterday

00:46:21.820 we were top 10 on itunes and apple we were number three on google and youtube um and then we were

00:46:30.220 number nine i think it was on voodoo so number one on salem now so if you want to you want to rent um

00:46:38.140 nefarious if you want to see it again or didn't get a chance to see it in theaters it is available

00:46:42.300 on those platforms right now and our guest this hour has some experience with what we experienced

00:46:50.460 making and distributing this film in fact he experienced some of it with us as a matter of fact

00:46:54.380 but this is right up his alley in his area of expertise and that's because he's the host of

00:46:59.260 the exorcist files podcast that is available now father carlos martins is our guest father it is a

00:47:05.580 great to see you again how are you brother i am great yeah good good to be with you steve i want to

00:47:11.820 start with kind of your background you went from an atheist to an exorcist that i mean i i work in

00:47:20.780 politics full-time brother and i've seen a lot of evolutions okay they happen quite frequently usually

00:47:26.620 around the time we all vote yours is one of the most stark evolutions anyone will ever have you went

00:47:31.420 from an atheist to on the front lines fighting evil spirits how does that happen well gosh i guess it was

00:47:39.260 a a two-step process um you know first of all so i was an atheist i i didn't have an axe to grind

00:47:46.300 against god or or or the church uh certainly not against christian believing however i what what

00:47:54.380 occurred was i was in college and i had an experience whereby i i met a bunch of students

00:48:03.100 and a small number of professors who were devout christians and they their witness the the peace

00:48:10.540 that they exuded the tranquility that i saw in them made me aware of how impoverished i was

00:48:17.740 and their character their witness was was powerfully attractive and i just found myself

00:48:25.100 hanging out with them more and more now i thought they were wrong you know my atheism was an intellectual

00:48:31.260 conclusion based on reality the way i i i perceived it you know if god exists why is why is the world like

00:48:37.820 this um but they invited me on to a retreat and on that retreat i had an experience of god so i went

00:48:48.380 into that retreat in an atheist and i came out a believer and what i did on that retreat and and i i

00:48:55.580 felt to be honest completely foolish doing this i you know i knelt down and and um i i said to god i said

00:49:03.500 to the lord if if you exist and i don't believe you do but if you exist please reveal yourself to me

00:49:09.420 and and if if if you do if you can give me the faith that i see in them i will give you my life

00:49:16.700 and so um i i had an experience of god and an experience that was so strong and so frankly startling

00:49:25.820 that it's just as startling for me today it's just as real it's just i mean that that experience

00:49:32.140 experience was was timeless in the sense that it feels like it occurred five minutes ago

00:49:37.900 but it changed my life and so then i later on you know i finished my college studies i did two graduate

00:49:45.580 degrees and then i sensed a call to the to the priesthood after that and it was in my formation

00:49:52.700 as a priest uh it was actually the the year before i was ordained when i was when i was a deacon

00:49:57.820 that i was put into exorcism ministry and so i here i am so this is a real thing right this is

00:50:06.620 this is one of the largest radio audiences in the country right now and and so there's going to be a

00:50:12.780 lot of diversity of opinion on such things this is real this isn't just the stuff of movies this goes

00:50:18.860 on real demonic possession oppression persecution occurs you've witnessed this firsthand you were

00:50:26.380 trained to confront this what's that training like well uh there certainly is training for it and and

00:50:34.620 but one of the one of the odd things the quirky things about me is that i didn't have any training

00:50:40.380 so what what happened is i i was assigned as my uh first parish church after ordination as a deacon

00:50:49.900 i was assigned to an extraordinarily large church and the exorcists of that archdiocese were stationed

00:50:57.820 there uh so i was i was a help to them uh in the matters pertaining to running that church

00:51:04.060 uh and so but they had so many cases of actual possession and oppression of persons that when

00:51:13.580 something lesser would come in for example a house infestation like haunting phenomena within a house or

00:51:20.460 uh some some kind of object or an animal that uh some diabolical influences is happening upon this animal

00:51:29.100 like in in a clear way it's operating in a way that that is occultish um one in kind of a moment of

00:51:38.060 exhaustion just turned to me and and when i when a call came in for a house that was exhibiting poltergeist

00:51:45.980 phenomena he just turned to me and said deacon go get rid of the devil so i had zero training but i knew i

00:51:52.940 had an awareness that if the devil is in a place he's there for a reason and so my job is to find

00:52:00.140 out what that reason is and my job is to undo that reason is to help the victim the the relevant family

00:52:07.820 the people who are involved to close whatever door was opened and because as long as that door is open

00:52:14.460 the devil has every right to be there and i don't have the ability to usurp a right from the devil but

00:52:20.540 whoever gave him that right that person or those persons certainly have that that right and that

00:52:27.100 ability i think a lot of us are looking at the broader culture right now and looking at the

00:52:36.300 conversations and debates we are having about first and fundamental things that no previous generation of

00:52:41.660 western civilization ever bothered to argue about just everything else but not these things and are

00:52:46.780 wondering if if the enemy might have an opening in the broader culture before we get to to that broader

00:52:52.620 conversation let's keep it very specific on what you have seen on an individual basis when you talk about

00:52:58.860 openings what do you mean right so what happens is that that where the devil exists or resides if he's formed

00:53:09.100 a relationship with you with your home then what what what's happened is he he there's a there's been a contract made

00:53:20.140 where he has gained a certain right to be there and as long as he possesses that right

00:53:27.500 he i can't evict him nor can nor can really anyone else right just like i can't evict you out of your own

00:53:34.380 home because you have a right to be there and i don't have the right to kick you out therefore

00:53:39.740 but when people do something such as a grievous sin uh such as um commit an act

00:53:50.540 of of of the occult right the use of a ouija board the reagan playing with uh captain howdy on

00:53:57.900 the ouija board and the in the exorcist is kind of the stuff you're talking about exactly okay 0.98

00:54:03.100 putting a curse on someone consulting a fortune teller or so forth then you've given the right

00:54:10.700 to the devil to be part of you you've given him the right to have a relationship with you

00:54:15.980 but it doesn't mean just that i mean the the misuse of our sexuality for example like i'm thinking in

00:54:22.220 one case um gentleman he had a one night stand with somebody and his life was absolutely different

00:54:28.300 after that uh he was not in control of his own body and where he was normally free he was no longer

00:54:35.100 free so a debilitating depression um the the parts of his body would act uh in their own accord as if

00:54:44.300 as if they had someone else at the controls um he thought he himself was nuts and this is this is the

00:54:51.020 the difference in the distinction between mental illness so the vast majority of the cases and i

00:54:57.020 would say loosely about 65 percent of the people that come to an exorcist looking for exorcism ministry

00:55:06.220 what they're really suffering from is mental illness right so we employ uh psychologists psychiatrists

00:55:12.460 mental health professionals to to give people an assessment whereby okay they're experiencing something

00:55:20.220 that is distressing let's find the cause of that and most of the time two-thirds of the time roughly

00:55:26.460 it's mental health right so we refer those people to people that can help them but in terms of the rest

00:55:35.500 you know that the other third there's something there that is evil that is affecting them it's not

00:55:43.020 just in their minds but ironically when you have somebody with mental illness the first thing they're

00:55:47.980 going to say is oh i'm not crazy i don't i don't have a mental health problem but the people who do have

00:55:54.860 a genuine diabolical situation on their hands they're the ones that'll say you know i father i think

00:56:01.740 i'm just crazy because i did x but it wasn't me that did it but i know that i did it so they speak

00:56:10.540 in contradictory terms right so when you when you hear that they're what they're describing they're

00:56:17.420 formulating hey that there's someone else at the controls here there's something else doing this um i

00:56:25.580 experienced myself doing it but it wasn't me i didn't want to do it and yet i did it

00:56:31.740 and so then at that point then you begin a diagnostic you test to see does reality correspond

00:56:38.140 to what they're saying i'm up against a break here really quick though how often in that other third

00:56:43.900 father is it just our own sinfulness is it someone that just needs discipled um fruit of the spirit kind

00:56:50.780 of stuff how often is it just that the vast majority the vast majority so sin gives rights to the devil

00:56:56.940 right so when you were conceived inside the mother your mother's womb when when i was we all

00:57:02.620 belong to the devil although we were a creation of god that the penalty for the sin of our first parent

00:57:08.460 adam uh came to us it befell us at the moment we were created we belong to the enemy and this is why

00:57:15.980 we baptize we baptize to remove the rights of the devil to that individual so when we sin we are giving

00:57:24.540 those rights back to the devil so he has every right to possess when there's a grievous sin uh what in

00:57:32.460 what in catholicism we would call a mortal sin a sin that is so grave that it evicts the presence of

00:57:40.220 the holy spirit from within us giving jurisdiction to the devil this is the the sin that has that has no

00:57:46.860 life uh that has no ability to save our lives which is described in scripture all right when we come back

00:57:53.260 have we seen has the father seen an uptick in the kind of activity that he just described

00:57:59.180 isn't in recent years and if so what could that mean uh for the broader culture back in 60 seconds

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00:59:18.780 are back here on the glenn bag program and a lot of us steve days by the way filling in today for

00:59:24.140 glenn a lot of us are looking at what's going on in the broader culture and sensing something

00:59:30.540 more is happening this is this is more than a than a than a culture war and and we agree on this show

00:59:37.420 and we talk about on my normal show anyway and i know glenn agrees a lot of this too i think todd the

00:59:43.020 first time you ever met glenn by the way you had literally the first time you had met him he comes

00:59:49.100 up introduces himself to you right shakes your hand then turns to me and says hey i think we might be

00:59:53.980 close to jesus coming back right i mean that was the first conversation we sat down for like a 45

00:59:57.660 minute talk of the end of days that was the first conversation you ever had with glenn beck by the

01:00:02.780 way so i mean these are themes that this audience will not be unfamiliar with and certainly our show

01:00:07.660 if you listen we even may be even more intent in going through these things particularly because i

01:00:12.460 i have no other explanation for a lot of the things that that are going on in the culture other than

01:00:17.100 what's happening in the unseen realm must be spilling out uh into the natural world father carlos martins

01:00:22.860 is the host of the exorcist files podcast he is with us now um father how many years have have you been

01:00:30.780 on the front lines of of spiritual warfare here how many years have been doing this uh since 2008 so

01:00:37.340 gosh it's been um about 15 years now how many full-fledged exorcisms have you been involved in

01:00:47.020 oh gosh i wouldn't know but it's been many many many dozens many dozens have you seen an uptick in

01:00:54.380 either the frequency and or the potency in in the last few years absolutely yeah steadily every year

01:01:02.460 more calls come in uh and and why is that well a number of reasons but the primary one is you know

01:01:09.900 there's there's the christianity is just being abandoned we're we are no longer a christian culture

01:01:17.260 christendom has been eclipsed western society and so there with this re-embrace of paganism 0.91

01:01:24.780 then what you what you have is the devil running amok and people are through through their actions

01:01:33.580 doing things that are just flat out and out evil right i mean what what kids do in high school today

01:01:39.020 you couldn't have imagined 50 years ago maybe i mean if we thought gosh if we thought the 70s and

01:01:45.660 the 80s were bad look at what's happening now in school and you know that the irony is uh in the early

01:01:52.700 in the early centuries during the time of the church fathers right the good the nascent christian

01:01:57.660 church one of the one of the causes for people's conversions is that christian exorcists had such

01:02:06.700 great success over demons over spirits over and above kind of the local witch doctor the local pagan 0.98

01:02:14.780 witch doctor that became that became a great apologetic for the christian church right so we're 0.89

01:02:21.500 we're entering into that again whereby people are are you know they've tried everything they've visited

01:02:27.900 mental health professionals they've received prescriptions for anti for antidepressants and

01:02:34.220 so we're that's not fixing the problem and so finally they're coming to an exorcist not because

01:02:41.420 they have any kind of faith but because they've exhausted everything else and they've been encouraged

01:02:46.060 by friends like hey you've got nothing to lose go see the go see the priest i've got about a minute

01:02:52.860 here have you ever lost well you know really i'm i'm i'm not one of the people battling it it's it's

01:03:02.700 christ against the demon christ is the true exorcist and and somebody like me we're just an agent so

01:03:10.140 christ never loses he never loses all right we'll come back more with father carlos martins here in a

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01:05:09.580 father carlos martins from the exorcist files podcast because he is an actual exorcist and father

01:05:17.500 forgive me i asked a a difficult question right before the break that was very loaded um but a lot

01:05:23.260 of so i want to reset it a lot of what we get from what you are doing or spiritual warfare comes

01:05:28.220 from movies right and sometimes in the movies the bad guy wins you know in the in the demon

01:05:32.700 possession movie so that's why i wanted to ask you the question have you ever lost and i thought you

01:05:38.460 you drew a very important distinction about what is what is going on here in these confrontations

01:05:44.140 i want to go back and let you kind of reset that answer because i want to make sure everybody heard

01:05:47.580 you clearly yeah sure so look christ never loses he's the real exorcist and the rest of us we're

01:05:54.540 just with the title of exorcist we're just his agents so christ never loses it but but he picks

01:06:01.580 the time of his victory you know i i think you know biblically when you when you look at the most

01:06:06.940 poignant confrontation that christ has with a demoniac which is at the scene at garrison you know that the 0.61

01:06:15.260 demon sees christ coming at a distance and runs towards him and says what have you to do with us

01:06:21.740 have you come to destroy us before the appointed time right so they know that that they're going

01:06:27.980 to be utterly and completely defeated the demons know this and they also know that it's christ that's

01:06:34.620 going to do it and so they there is a time that they're aware that this is going to take place

01:06:41.580 and so all of a sudden they see him coming and they're worried wait a minute have you changed the

01:06:47.580 time on us have you moved up the date right we beg you do not torment us right christ is the strong man

01:06:55.580 he's the plunderer of the demonic kingdom so he doesn't lose that the devil has already made a

01:07:00.860 confession of loss right he's already preempted his defeat with with his speech so to speak to the lord

01:07:07.820 so christ doesn't lose now for myself or or any agent of god trying to pray and and and loosen

01:07:18.460 somebody from a grip of the devil can we can we be inadequate to the job sure we can sure but at the

01:07:26.220 end of the day even that isn't a hindrance to christ christ himself doesn't need us to liberate

01:07:33.900 somebody or we can be very very imperfect very you know making mistakes and he can still win the day

01:07:40.460 it's really up to god that brings us full circle to something you said earlier and and we depicted a

01:07:47.900 version of this in our movie nefarious and the demon says that there needs to be a series of yeses

01:07:53.580 that possession is a process um he describes really almost a covenantal form of a relationship kind of a

01:08:00.220 a reverse conversion uh if you will uh and in in terms of a different uh and you know an aberrant

01:08:07.820 spiritual relationship that proceeds in degrees almost a reverse sanctification process uh within

01:08:14.220 a conversion and and you were making the point that you are the because we are living in a post

01:08:21.500 christian era now we are for the first time in the west in a post christian there was the pre-christian

01:08:26.380 west and it was the christian west and now we have the post christian west that that now i mean

01:08:30.940 something you're going to say yes to something spiritually right so you know um not to be an

01:08:36.060 evangelical and go all go all augustinian here but you're going to say yes to the city of god or the

01:08:41.020 city of man you're going to belong to one of these kingdoms and and so i if you're if you don't say yes to

01:08:46.380 the the kingdom of god then you're going to belong to the other to some varying degree

01:08:49.740 and and and because we are living in a post-christian society um we are now not just adopting pagan or

01:08:59.580 godless ideals we're inhabiting them and this is and they're inhabiting us and this is coming out and

01:09:05.100 what we are seeing in this wrestling for these fundamental definitions and foundations of society

01:09:10.940 that used to transcend politics and now they are the substance of it right right yeah exactly so so

01:09:18.140 things that that are are evil when we don't have a christian world view when we don't have grace

01:09:25.820 within us when we don't view reality through the lens of god things that are evil appear good to us

01:09:32.620 and and we embrace them and you know somebody you know here's a fine example you know somebody who i

01:09:39.180 think is an absolute utter genius who who i just i admire his his thinking in so many ways and that's

01:09:45.980 elon musk you know he's created an industry that is now changing the automobile industry but he's done

01:09:51.980 more than that you know he's embraced technology and he's pushed so many he's he's just redefined uh

01:09:59.580 the the technological and scientific realm of what is achievable and when you hear him talking about

01:10:06.140 just different things even outside his his industries you know when you hear him talk about free speech

01:10:13.020 and his desire his purchase of twitter in order to ensure free speech because he's aware that a free society

01:10:21.580 that a moral society has to have free speech to buttress that and so i mean all of it it just his natural

01:10:31.500 intelligence and his natural desire to be good that a a person who is good is going to be moral

01:10:38.460 and to be moral you need intelligence to have intelligence you need the free exchange of ideas

01:10:43.260 i mean he's just he's he's discovered this on his own so to speak however even he you know his company

01:10:52.460 tesla will pay for their employees to go out of state and get an abortion if they need it so here you have

01:10:58.940 somebody who in terms of natural intelligence is is a cutting edge but without the light of christ

01:11:08.540 without that grace to inform your conscience that wait a second what you're doing here is you're

01:11:14.460 paying for people to go kill their babies that this is the difference that a christian faith makes it

01:11:21.260 informs your intellect that when when somebody is in the realm of faith when they've embraced christ 0.98

01:11:29.180 christ informs your intellect and is operative there and and gives you a lens by which to view the world

01:11:35.820 so that even a natural intellect that is superlative is inadequate to keep somebody from committing evil

01:11:45.100 in this life i've got about five more minutes with you and i i would be remiss if i didn't ask a

01:11:51.660 couple of questions that i know the audience um is curious about number one have you ever been scared

01:11:58.940 the stuff that we see in movies you know wall walking heads turning projectile vomiting is that 0.90

01:12:06.140 real have you ever witnessed stuff like that sure and levitation and so forth and being struck you know

01:12:11.820 being hit violently i mean i i had on one occasion my skull was hit so hard i needed two surgeries to

01:12:18.780 repair it wow um but and i'm asked this question a lot and and i'll give you a truthful answer the

01:12:26.060 truthful answer is no i've never been scared now i i've never been scared because i know what fear is

01:12:33.500 fear is living apart from god so as a convert from atheism i know what it's like to not have christ

01:12:38.700 and once when i had christ when he came to me when when he gave me belief you know nothing

01:12:48.460 there is nothing that can keep me from him so the the the the devil doing his tricks the devil

01:12:57.020 displaying his his power which is a very limited power that the devil if he had the power to control me

01:13:04.060 to to defeat me to kill me to annihilate me he would have done so but he doesn't have that power

01:13:09.580 so in the end i there's no parlor trip parlor trick that that would make me afraid of him

01:13:16.700 my fear is offending christ my fear is being distant from christ that's what fear is

01:13:24.140 finally i teased this earlier you personally witnessed some of uh the antics um obstacles uh that we had to

01:13:33.260 put up with for several years to to get nefarious made to get it distributed um and you came to our

01:13:39.900 premiere in dallas uh and it was great to have you there and of course because it's the movie nefarious

01:13:45.580 we were having technical difficulties and literally not a day went by that there was not some form of

01:13:49.820 technical difficulty somewhere involving this film for like three years uh you experienced some of

01:13:55.900 this firsthand can you tell our audience that story sure yeah so you know the the

01:14:01.420 the at the premiere the the day before they were conducting interviews of various persons and myself

01:14:08.780 i wasn't directly involved in the in the making of the movie but when i was sent a screener i saw it

01:14:14.300 and i thought you know what gosh this is just so well done this depicts so well the mind of the devil

01:14:19.820 and and what he's about that that i promoted it i i thought the movie was something that

01:14:25.180 that it was really worth seeing so in in as a thanks um chuck and carrie the the the writers of

01:14:32.540 the movie producers they had me uh come to the premiere and i was part they they asked if i'd be

01:14:39.180 willing to give an interview during that session the day before the premiere and so i did and that

01:14:43.820 interview lasted a little bit over an hour and then i walked away i i went met a friend went out for

01:14:48.700 a walk and i my phone was still turned off from that interview and i i didn't realize it about two

01:14:55.100 and a half hours after the interview was done i looked i i turned on my phone and gosh there was

01:15:00.620 just a plethora of text messages uh the so the first one saying father you know our apologies

01:15:07.820 half of your interview didn't record the other half the files are have been corrupted and we can't open

01:15:12.540 them um a couple minutes later okay our our recording equipment isn't responding not sure

01:15:20.140 what's going on here would you be able to come back so we can redo this next message okay now the

01:15:25.980 lights are flickering on and off and we're hearing noises coming from uh the area of the room where the

01:15:30.860 couches are can you please come here and do prayers so uh i took a a taxi back to the hotel and uh you know

01:15:39.740 we we have in the catholic church we have a a ritual a procedure for such a thing uh we have a set of

01:15:45.820 prayers that we do for a place that where the devil is is displaying his power so it involves uh the use

01:15:53.020 of holy water so i made holy water in my hotel room and i walked down the hall to that that makeshift

01:16:00.140 studio and so i stood in the center of where all of the manifestations were occurring and i stood with

01:16:06.780 my back uh to the window of the room so we're up on the fifth floor so behind me is just the window and

01:16:12.460 then a five-story drop down onto the ground and i started the prayers and and just maybe one or two

01:16:19.340 sentences into them i could hear immediately behind me behind my behind my right ear the a chanting i and

01:16:28.300 i couldn't make out the words i couldn't tell you what language it was but there was nobody behind me

01:16:32.860 and it was not something i was hearing through the window it sounded like uh the sound was being

01:16:37.660 produced at five inches from me five inches five inches from my ear so i i just continued and there's

01:16:46.380 a line within that prayer within that exorcism of a place that towards the end and the line is bow down

01:16:55.660 of course you're addressing the demons here bow down to the holy and terrible name of jesus terrible

01:17:02.700 of course for the demons everything stopped so no more diabolical phenomenon no more lights flashing

01:17:11.500 no more non-responsive equipment everything came to an end and so i i said to carrie and chuck i said

01:17:17.980 look your premiere is tomorrow you're occupying three theaters why don't we just preempt things

01:17:24.540 and have me go and do the same thing in the theater uh and so that's exactly what we did before the movie

01:17:31.180 played and uh the event as you saw as you witnessed yeah it happened hitch free yeah in fact i came in

01:17:38.700 for my interview right after right after all this and everything worked perfectly fine so it's great

01:17:44.220 to see you again brother thank you very much for joining us and giving us so much of your time

01:17:47.820 appreciate you my pleasure that is father carlos martins uh we'll take a quick break come back and have

01:17:53.020 some thoughts on the conversation you just heard here in a moment join the conversation 888-727-BECK

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01:19:21.660 steve dace here filling in for glenn beck on the glenn beck program want to thank father carlos

01:19:25.980 martins from the exorcist files podcast for joining us this hour and i i mentioned uh to father carlos

01:19:31.740 that we have i can't years of issues making this movie nefarious that's available now uh streaming

01:19:37.820 now on uh itunes apple google youtube uh voodoo dish and salem now so if you want to see the movie

01:19:45.420 and you didn't get a chance to in theaters you want to see it again now so now is your chance uh

01:19:49.580 just just after the premiere that father carlos was at uh i went into the hospital uh with a deadly

01:19:57.260 MRSA bacterial infection that they had to painfully carve out of my armpit

01:20:03.020 i then went back into the hospital a week later because i had severe allergic reactions to the

01:20:09.740 antibiotics i had to take to kill said infection one of our producers uh chris jones was loading

01:20:16.460 his son judah into the back seat of his car in a parking lot and out of nowhere in this parking lot

01:20:22.460 a car came by and nearly totaled uh his car nearly killed him and his son uh tore the back door off of

01:20:29.820 the car and a day later one of our other producers john sullivan his car i think it was parked in front

01:20:35.900 of his home uh and was totaled by a nursing student in the middle in early in the morning who had fallen

01:20:42.860 asleep at the wheel these things all went down all went down

01:20:48.460 down right around the release of our film in a span of two weeks and that those are that's just a

01:20:56.140 a sampling of what went on uh during and still goes on uh during the making distribution uh of this of

01:21:03.500 this film what you guys think of the conversation we had with uh father father martens that man knows

01:21:09.420 how to keep it real uh steve in having me be on the show as a catholic and always talking about how

01:21:16.940 the importance if you're going to have differences with catholics be about have differences with what

01:21:21.820 they actually believe and not what you think they believe if you need to start somewhere start with

01:21:26.540 father martens because the beginning of the creed when we at easter when we welcome people into the

01:21:30.780 church we start we don't just recite it but we we respond to it and the first things do you reject

01:21:35.820 satan yes and all his works yes if you have questions about the catholic faith go start with father

01:21:42.700 martens because the man keeps it real what'd you think aaron i just thought the

01:21:46.700 the the conversation about sin specifically was was fascinating we as believers have power over

01:21:54.060 because of the the holy spirit but the consequences of sin can be terrifying and you're seeing that

01:21:59.180 play itself out in the broader culture that's the conversation we'll have with stephen string

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01:25:06.460 i'm steve dace alongside todd erzin and aaron mcintyre our day is just beginning if you are a blaze tv

01:25:13.180 subscriber you get us for five consecutive hours uh my show uh regular show still coming up here uh at the

01:25:19.820 top of uh the next hour and it's going to be a direct follow-up to the conversation we've been

01:25:24.620 having the last two hours or the final two hours of the glen beck program uh we're gonna we're gonna

01:25:29.420 take the 10 hot button culture war issues as selected by yours truly and we're gonna debate

01:25:36.940 them for two hours whether or not we are dealing with something that is truly demonic or we just

01:25:42.620 disagree with democrats is it just political right if you go to the if you go to the the the preface

01:25:48.780 that c.s lewis writes to the screw tape letters he says hey the biggest mistake we make on one hand

01:25:52.940 is either giving the devil way too much credit or acting as if he's not there at all right so are we

01:25:58.140 just having political disagreements on the right with people who just disagree with us right we often

01:26:03.580 mock them for saying to us every time we disagree they disagree we must be a russian hacker uh we must

01:26:09.020 be a russian agent we must be hitler literally mussolini let's not return that necessarily all

01:26:14.940 right let's love our neighbors who live ourselves sometimes people of you know um of integrity and

01:26:20.220 and good conscience just can disagree and do so vehemently so are we just disagreeing vehemently

01:26:25.900 politically or is there something else at play here and so we'll discuss that as it relates to

01:26:31.820 specific issues when my show begins right after i get done doing glenn's show here uh about an hour

01:26:38.380 from now but we want to welcome to the show now steven strang uh he is with charisma magazine and

01:26:44.380 it's uh it's a pleasure steven to have you with us here on the show brother how are you i'm doing

01:26:49.580 great thanks for inviting me you bet and we have been talking about whether there is there's a lot

01:26:57.980 that we are seeing in our culture today we're frankly we're seeing more than we've ever seen uh

01:27:03.020 uh for both good and bad in our culture today but is there more than meets the eye and i got to know

01:27:09.580 uh two individuals through the making and the promotion of nefarious father carlos martins who

01:27:14.060 was with us last hour uh and steven strang from charisma magazine as well and both of you guys

01:27:19.820 um we're very vocal in your support of our film and what you thought it did to shine a light

01:27:25.260 on what is going on uh with uh the darkness and its influence in the culture so so steven let me let me

01:27:31.500 start there point blank do you believe american culture right now is under some form of direct

01:27:40.460 demonic influence absolutely i do and there's a lot of ways that we can dive into that i actually do it

01:27:47.820 in my book spirit led living in an upside down world i think the reason the world is upside down is

01:27:54.780 because of demonic influence and i'll just tell you that at charisma media we went all in to push

01:28:03.420 nefarious and even this week i had several occasions in personal conversations to tell people

01:28:10.140 you need to go see that movie it's on salem and i'll just start by um you know telling everybody they

01:28:16.540 need to see it because you see that you can see with your own eyes what happens with a demoniac now it is

01:28:23.820 one poor soul but those demons uh tell us what their real agenda is which is a lot like screw tape

01:28:33.100 letters which you just uh mentioned but demonic activity has gone back to the beginning of time

01:28:40.860 and it has only been curbed in a lot of ways because of christianity i mean there was paganism rampant

01:28:48.940 in the roman empire in the greek empire in israel itself and that was exercised

01:28:56.940 by the the creation the development of the early church the early christian church it's gone it is

01:29:04.860 gone there is nobody who goes to a zeus temple anymore however we believe i believe that the spirits that

01:29:13.900 were around uh are coming back with a vengeance and this is the topic of uh rabbi jonathan kahn's latest

01:29:22.780 book called the return of the gods small g he is believing that what we're seeing is paganism paganism

01:29:32.380 and demons are the kind of the same thing different terminologies and he was on glenn beck

01:29:38.780 uh i think it was on good friday and uh that book just went crazy because it opened people's eyes

01:29:47.180 he talks about how what we're seeing is a return of paganism in our culture now paganism is around the

01:29:54.380 world there are some really bad places they don't tend to affect you in iowa or me in florida you know

01:30:01.020 we're more aware of what's happening in our lives but in our culture which has basically been a judeo

01:30:07.500 christian culture even if people have not really served god in the way the bible says but it goes

01:30:13.820 all the way back to our uh early immigrants and then our founding fathers and down through history

01:30:19.740 right up to the current time and there's still a lot a lot of of god-fearing people who believe in

01:30:27.660 the power of the holy spirit and all this kind of stuff but it seems that the other side is becoming

01:30:33.260 more and more and more brazen and trying to you know uh stop our religious freedoms and everything

01:30:40.780 else but of course we're not talking about that it's like why do people act the way they do if you

01:30:45.980 can understand demons and demonic activities the bible i'm a christian journalist so i'll quote the bible

01:30:52.220 the bible says we wrestle not against flesh and blood this is not against people but it's against 1.00

01:30:56.940 principalities and powers and let me make this comment and i'll turn it back to you uh you know

01:31:03.340 we all understand the the natural realm that's what we exist in every single day of our lives but i

01:31:09.740 believe that the spiritual realm which we don't see is actually more real because that's the realm that

01:31:15.260 will continue even after we're long gone but it's something that people don't understand it's like trying

01:31:21.660 to understand electricity or the internet we kind of see what it does we sort of know how to use it

01:31:28.300 but we do not understand it and we don't understand the spiritual realm although the bible gives us

01:31:35.180 guidelines and there are people with spiritual insight we call them gifts of the spirit who have

01:31:40.140 discernment who can actually minister to people who are affected by the demonic now that's kind of a

01:31:46.700 different discussion hopefully we'll get to it actually my book delves into that a little bit

01:31:51.420 more but it uh our culture and these people that are just crazy are demonized they just are and they

01:32:01.500 could call us crazy or whatever i'm saying they're demonized now i'm not saying specific people i'm 0.78

01:32:06.060 talking about groups of people some of the stuff that's done they're just crazy it's almost like in the

01:32:12.940 new testament where right the demoniac yeah have you come to persecute us before the appointed time 0.56

01:32:18.780 son of man kind of stuff yes exactly and then they then the demons went into pigs and they ran over

01:32:23.900 the cliff and there were people that were chained in in cemeteries and they wouldn't even wear clothes

01:32:29.820 and all that kind of stuff you know what we don't see those examples called pride fest now things

01:32:34.860 like that are happening i want to relay to you a conversation that i had with tucker carlson last summer

01:32:42.060 and get your reaction to it and he came uh i think uh pound for pound the most impactful

01:32:49.420 um member of the media commentarian uh that i have seen in my time working in media and that's why

01:32:57.020 they had to get rid of him and he came to iowa for i believe even more than that i believe in a way he's

01:33:02.140 prophetic to our culture well you're going to certainly think that when i pass this along to you

01:33:05.820 uh he came to iowa for an event we did with him last summer and we got to have a private dinner with

01:33:10.780 him and we asked him hey what happened to the the the bow tied chipper libertarian uh from his msnbc

01:33:20.380 and cnn days they used to do shows with his buddy rachel maddow and frankly thought people like us

01:33:25.100 were the reasons republicans could never win elections and were driving the party too far to

01:33:29.100 the right i mean now you are the ultimate culture warrior um we don't think fox probably had any idea

01:33:36.140 that you were going to do the kind of show that you're now doing when they hired you um what

01:33:40.780 happened what what changed your thinking and he talked about his wife is very evangelical and he's

01:33:46.140 kind of you know um quasi you know theistic and religious he grew up in a republican home uh his

01:33:52.540 dad was a republican uh an activist in in georgetown and uh all of his friends were people that worked in

01:33:59.180 politics for republicans and democrats and they all had a lot of they they trick-or-treated together

01:34:03.900 christmas together thanksgiving together party together and he he thought you know i could see

01:34:08.780 why someone who uh has a different view of of you know what medicare and medicaid ought to do for

01:34:14.060 people than me i i don't think that makes you a terrible person i can see why someone would have

01:34:18.140 those viewpoints and we just disagree he said though my wife had been warning me for the last few years

01:34:22.780 that things have gotten increasingly darker and something else is going on and he said for the first

01:34:27.180 time in my career there are things that we are doing politically that just no one benefits from

01:34:32.700 like the people benefit from medicare and medicaid we can debate whether those are the best

01:34:36.700 ways to help the people that are getting that benefit but they are benefiting from it no one is

01:34:41.900 benefited benefiting from let's castrate 12 year old boys no one is benefiting from let's chest

01:34:47.100 spine uh you know 13 year old girls no one is benefiting from let's put grown men in women's 1.00

01:34:52.700 locker rooms no one's benefiting from this stuff and he said i finally you know i had to finally admit

01:34:57.340 to my wife and frankly to people like you guys yeah that that when we start doing things politically

01:35:03.020 that there is no obvious human benefit to he said steven the only conclusion i could come to

01:35:08.060 is that there must be some spiritual component here there's some other darkness going on here

01:35:13.500 i've got about a couple about about a minute and a half give me your reaction to that well you're

01:35:18.620 absolutely right and the use of word darkness is a very appropriate word and people who watch your

01:35:24.940 movie notice how i pushed it again uh there is definitely a darkness you can see it you can feel

01:35:31.180 it you feel sorry for this poor helpless person that's possessed by this demon and the demon even

01:35:39.100 wanted him to be electrocuted so he would suffer more and this is what we're seeing in our culture but

01:35:45.100 uh tucker carlson is absolutely right there's a darkness but there was a darkness with hitler

01:35:51.340 with stalin even with the roman empire you know it's been throughout history but we've been holding

01:35:56.700 it back the the christianity in a way and people of moral values have been holding it back but it's

01:36:04.380 coming with a vengeance and i think it's even more sinister than what you just articulated but we have

01:36:11.980 got to stand up to it and we've got to understand how we we can't just complain about the darkness

01:36:17.420 we've got to light a light and what happens with light the darkness disappears and the darker it is

01:36:23.980 the smaller the light will make a difference uh because it seems like it's an uphill battle at least

01:36:30.380 it seems like that to me and we cover this every single day uh on charisma media our website and the

01:36:36.220 other things that we do and so i live in this world and my book spirit led living in a upside down world

01:36:42.380 was my attempt to try to uh provide some answers and also to help people put this in perspective

01:36:49.180 because a lot of people maybe even most people understand that something is seriously wrong with

01:36:56.140 our country and they don't know what it is tucker carlson is one of the ones that gets it

01:37:02.060 we'll come back more with steven strang i want to talk about specific issue there's one specific

01:37:10.060 issue happening right now that to me i think perfectly makes the case what we're dealing

01:37:14.700 with here is not just mere even radical political division or disagreement but something metaphysical

01:37:20.860 we'll talk about that more here with steven strang from charisma magazine in just a moment

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01:38:37.900 all right back here on the glenn beck program steven strang from charisma magazine is our guest his new

01:38:43.500 book spirit led living in an upside down world you can check that out as well um and so uh steven when

01:38:49.260 i was doing publicity for the theatrical release of our movie nefarious um and did a lot of interviews

01:38:54.700 for that a a question that i got very often was give me an example can you give us an example of of

01:39:01.260 something we are confronting in the culture an issue that you think has no political benefit or basis

01:39:07.020 that is just purely of demonic influence and the issue that i pointed out that is um uh is the trans 0.81

01:39:15.340 issue and here's why human sin in in in its essence is a is a defiance of god's will all right but in

01:39:25.740 practicum what we think we are doing uh is is actually exploiting the talents abilities drives desires impulses

01:39:35.740 that god puts in us breaking free of the guard rails and the guidance that he puts around such

01:39:41.100 things uh and and we think we are actually now maximizing them um i mean for example if sex within

01:39:48.140 marriage is great then more sex outside of marriage with more people could only be better uh and so we

01:39:53.100 break free of those guard rails and uh and that ends up usually being a monkey paw story and blows up in

01:39:58.700 our own faces sin in practicum is an exploitation of the desires drives impulses uh that god places

01:40:06.540 within us what you see with things like the trans issue is a denial of those things we we no longer

01:40:13.740 say i want to exploit the the drive that god put within me to mate with the other gender we we now deny 0.61

01:40:20.940 that god put that drive in me at all we now that we now deny that god made me male or female at all

01:40:26.540 uh or as we like to say on my show i think aaron you put it thusly that sin is a perversion of reality

01:40:32.700 with the with things like what we're doing now nihilistically with things like the trans issue

01:40:36.700 is a rejection of that reality uh and and to me there's no benefit there i mean there is i can see

01:40:44.940 why you'd be tempted to sin sexually um because of the pleasure you would get from it before the the 0.95

01:40:50.380 cost benefit would start going against you there is no benefit to having my male genitals removed and 0.99

01:40:56.060 just having an empty void placed between my legs via a a very uh disgusting and disturbing surgery 0.95

01:41:03.180 that is to me that goes beyond our depravity as as sinners to now we are seeking to those are

01:41:10.620 things that we do that work against even our own desires and that to me is demonic in nature nihilistic

01:41:17.100 in nature that's an example of what i'm talking about another one i would use is um you know when i

01:41:22.300 when i was growing up in the 80s the movie wall street gordon gecko greed is good so materialism for

01:41:27.580 materialism's sake the the the instinct god gives in us for significance and achievement to just break

01:41:33.980 free of any of any godly guidance there and just make it purely materialistic and ego-driven in nature

01:41:40.220 that is sin now we don't take any risks now we don't show any ingenuity any initiative at all now i

01:41:47.420 want to be a ward of the state now i want a king again that's a denial of the instincts and behaviors

01:41:52.540 that that god instilled in me i think when we get to when we're exploitive i think that is sin

01:41:58.380 when we're nihilistic i think that is demonic and more of the stuff that we're seeing in our culture war

01:42:03.900 today is not is not merely exploitive it is transcended into nihilistic what are your thoughts

01:42:09.900 on that in about two minutes boy we yeah in two minutes we can talk for two hours about it

01:42:15.500 you know you make a lot of sense but let me let me say this you talk about money you know say money is

01:42:22.140 good it helps us uh take care of our families and so forth but just getting more and more money by

01:42:28.940 robbing a bank or burglarizing somebody's home is not good it's wrong and there are places you know

01:42:35.900 where crime is rampant where this happens all the time but our culture cannot exist with that so there

01:42:41.580 are guards you call them guardrails there's also consequences in sexuality it's it's kind of the

01:42:48.460 same thing and you talk about the trans movement but i saw a sign on the media somebody was protesting

01:42:55.980 what's going on at target and the sign said uh don't make gay boys think they're girls and i don't

01:43:06.460 i hadn't really thought about it but i thought yes all the little boys that want to be girls they

01:43:12.300 are gay at some level we're talking about a gay issue and uh if you know anything about it and

01:43:20.700 thankfully i don't live in that world but there are a lot of um uh you know what do you call it um i

01:43:27.900 don't even know you can't remember the word of things that turn people on and it just happens

01:43:33.740 that for a lot of people being the other sex is stimulating to them in some way uh in my book i go

01:43:42.140 into this and some and i did some research and about 75 of the men who say they're trans women really

01:43:49.180 never do the that surgery that you described instead we would use to call them transvestites 0.99

01:43:54.220 exactly that's the point that riley gains the championship uh swimmer has been making and

01:43:58.540 trying to bring that word back more with steven strang here in a moment

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01:45:42.380 all right steve dace back here yet again on the glennbeck radio program

01:45:46.540 back with steven strang of charisma magazine and i asked steven during the break so this isn't my

01:45:53.420 fault okay i asked him during the break what we should talk about he said i really think we should

01:45:57.420 talk about your movie more and i man i want to tell you i i guys we were just wrestling with it a minute

01:46:01.740 ago and i was like i don't know i mean i don't the movie's out on streaming right now i don't know that

01:46:06.220 we should be using a gigantor level of platform to you know be promoting it or anything of that nature

01:46:12.620 lest we come across as shills but since this obvious man of god i clearly twisted my arm and

01:46:19.660 and and humbly but yet persistently suggested that we should discuss it more i am a victim

01:46:26.620 and i will just follow the maddening crowd so therefore mr also an objective journalist there

01:46:32.540 you go even that that's true now now see i built you up and then you dropped the journalist and you

01:46:37.100 just cut yourself down we'll overlook that part of it okay all right but but since you brought it

01:46:41.420 up in all seriousness let's tie nefarious into this and and when we when we made the movie we had no

01:46:48.220 idea we'd get the movie finished we had no idea we get the movie distributed we had no idea when the

01:46:52.940 movie was going to come out let alone that it would come out at almost the exact maybe the exact right

01:46:59.340 time given what is happening in the culture right now when you saw the film for the first time

01:47:05.580 what's what what what stood out to you and how did it tie into what you see happening in the country

01:47:11.260 right now well first of all i i saw a screener and i did it frankly as a favor you know i mean people

01:47:18.300 send me stuff all the time and i thought you know i need to see it i was blown away i done a little

01:47:24.540 bit of research and found out that your book nefarious actually did not do very well for a

01:47:29.580 variety of reasons you're right it's the right thing at the right time it is not preachy it is

01:47:34.540 not really a christian a movie in the normal way that we would see it like a billy graham movie or

01:47:39.980 something but man you hit abortion um euthanasia uh the death penalty you hit all of that stuff it's evil

01:47:51.660 it's evil and um you use this demoniac to articulate it very very well i thought glenn beck did a great

01:48:01.420 job on it and i complimented him when i talked to him and he said well of course i did i was playing

01:48:06.380 myself but it's a great movie people need to see it now john ramirez who was in satanism and now he's

01:48:13.900 got a powerful ministry and we've done several of his books and i write about him in my book uh spirit

01:48:19.980 led living in an upside down world i i was able to get him a screener i did this to a lot of people

01:48:26.460 you'll remember that and he told me he said i can tell christians did this and i said what do you mean

01:48:31.180 he said because the demons don't swear he said demons always swear and i just thought that was

01:48:36.540 kind of an interesting thing it's powerful it's it's realistic uh people need to see it and what

01:48:43.580 you're doing is you're you're using your platform to get this in the uh before the public so that

01:48:51.740 people can debate it and i think it was brilliant and i hope that many many more people see it i know

01:48:58.140 it was a success and when you're in the business that's important i get it i'm a publisher but

01:49:03.580 something is happening spiritually eyes are being opened there was another movie very very different

01:49:08.220 called out in jesus name it was a fathom event and it was so successful they kept having it

01:49:13.180 they had public uh deliverance meetings in the theaters after it and uh alexander beghani one of

01:49:23.180 our own authors uh who did secrets of deliverance it was kind of a minor book if i can say that uh but

01:49:31.340 these people several pastors greg lock and some others discovered it and they're they're setting

01:49:36.940 people free you know a lot of the uh everybody's got problems and there's different things sometimes

01:49:43.180 they're psychological sometimes there are health issues but you know there are things there are

01:49:47.820 addictions there are other things that happen in people's lives and a lot of times it's a spiritual

01:49:52.460 base some of them are actually demons that need to be expelled in jesus name and there are some

01:49:59.900 uh people you can research it online who actually minister in this way there is so much demonic

01:50:06.380 activity online but at least god is raising up a standard and uh and if you need if somebody needs

01:50:13.820 deliverance in fact you can watch that movie they need to be set free they need to and uh you know

01:50:20.540 forgive me for being so strong but i believe that however a lot of things that believers suffer

01:50:26.620 and others maybe aren't demonic but it's what the apostle paul calls strongholds you can cast out a

01:50:35.100 demon you cannot cast out a stronghold you pull down strongholds and a lot of addictions

01:50:41.980 whether it's addiction to alcohol or even things like offense and unforgiveness and insecurity and all of

01:50:50.220 those kinds of things sexual addictions are almost always uh demonic or a very very strong stronghold where

01:50:59.500 people have let in these things but you know what the say uh the bible says satan comes to steal kill

01:51:07.260 and destroy but jesus came to give life and to give it more abundantly and you can be set free i talk about

01:51:12.620 this i have a whole chapter on deliverance in the in this book and i believe that if you're led by the

01:51:18.060 the spirit of god and you're going to have a happy fulfilling life and you're going to have power in

01:51:23.580 your life you've got to be free of these demonic influences that we've been talking about and with

01:51:29.900 the culture the way it is there's just you know they're just kind of coming at us all the time but

01:51:35.820 with the holy spirit we can i believe that we can get a hedge of protection around us we can get set

01:51:41.340 free of these things and there's help for people and if people don't get anything more from this

01:51:46.620 short interview i hope that they understand that it doesn't matter what they hear the bible says

01:51:52.620 they can be free who the sun sets free is free indeed that's the scripture it's true the word of

01:51:59.660 god is true i don't care what msnbc uh says in fact allison camarado who's over on cnn was interviewing 1.00

01:52:08.060 me about one of my books on donald trump and and she's debating me and she's saying doesn't your bible

01:52:15.100 say so and so and i said allison i'm so glad you're quoting the bible and we went on and i had a

01:52:20.540 wonderful opportunity to actually share the gospel in that setting but our culture says that stuff's

01:52:27.180 good traditional values which include the bible and everything else is bad it's upside down i mean just

01:52:34.380 this week we found out that in conservative utah they're banning the bible from a library but at the

01:52:41.340 same library you can get all kinds of other weird things but they say the bible's a hate book it's

01:52:47.420 like anything they don't agree with they say is hey no the bible is about love the love of god that he

01:52:54.140 would redeem mankind through jesus christ and then send us the holy spirit so that we have power we have

01:53:01.020 power in our lives everything about the holy spirit is about power and in the case we've been talking

01:53:07.100 about today is power over demonic influence and jonathan conan in his book and i'll just put in a

01:53:14.460 plug for his new book which is called the josiah manifesto we only announced it last week i finished

01:53:20.220 reading it two days ago it he he says that the way that we turn things around is through the power of the

01:53:27.420 holy spirit and what he says in this wonderful book and i'm not going to say anything more about it

01:53:33.660 is going to come out around labor day and is that the power of the holy spirit in fact i sent him

01:53:41.020 an email i said jonathan this section of the book which he talks about in the book of joel the prophet

01:53:48.620 from the old testament where he says in the last days god will pour out my spirit upon all flesh and

01:53:54.300 your sons and daughters will prophesy and and so forth and uh i just i'm trying to get this message out

01:54:01.580 steve i'm trying and i appreciate you helping me do it that there is a way to live in the spirit

01:54:07.900 in this upside down world we have power it's not our power we're human beings if anything we sometimes

01:54:14.300 we just feel like throwing up our hands and giving up but we don't need to the power of the holy spirit

01:54:20.300 is there god has a plan for man and and then the ancient prophet said in the last days and even as

01:54:27.740 things get worse and worse and worse we believe that god is through the power of the holy spirit

01:54:33.500 that people are going to turn to god that's the only way we're going to be able to turn things around

01:54:38.620 and forgive me if i sound like i'm a preacher i've never been a preacher but i believe this to the core

01:54:43.740 of my being that's why i'm in christian journalism and why i wrote this book and i just hope that it helps

01:54:49.900 people um because we've got to do something each of us have to do our own way our own thing you're doing

01:54:56.860 your thing this book and the different things we do at charisma media are my thing and each of us

01:55:02.540 in fact jonathan kahn makes that point in uh josiah the josiah manifesto that that's how we're going to

01:55:09.500 turn things around is each of us doing something and working together to in a lot of cases we have to

01:55:17.420 go around the institutions we have to come up with alternative media we've got to maybe even do things

01:55:23.660 underground i mean it's kind of scary what's happening we saw during the covid how quickly

01:55:28.460 governments wanted to shut down the church and now we see that libraries in utah are wanting to

01:55:34.140 ban the bible i mean this sounds like europe in 1600 when they burned bible translators i mean there's

01:55:42.540 some it's something very very evil but thank god we know who wins in the end amen that's a great place

01:55:51.180 to end it brother that was that was well done all right it is uh good to have you on the show good

01:55:55.420 to see it thank you very much for the kind words uh for nefarious it it really meant a lot to me and

01:56:00.620 to everybody on our production team and gave us a lot of confidence that uh that we had stuck the

01:56:05.420 landing steven so thank you very much and god bless you all right take care thank you god bless you i

01:56:10.300 will come back and uh we'll have some parting thoughts and kind of wrap up the conversation and set

01:56:14.620 the stage for the conversation to come because we've still got two more hours of this coming your way

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01:57:46.060 so we're wrapping things up here today on the glenn beck radio program we still have two more hours to

01:57:50.780 go on the steve day show that's our normal show here on blaze tv if you're a blaze tv subscriber stick

01:57:56.300 around for that or if you're not yet you can get the podcast uh as well or listen live on blaze radio

01:58:02.300 or subscribe to our podcast just look for steve dace d-e-a-c-e steve day show on itunes spotify

01:58:10.060 uh stitcher uh etc you'll find us there and what we're going to do is a direct follow-up to what

01:58:17.980 you've heard for the last two hours we're going to now we heard from father carlos martins

01:58:22.060 uh a certified exorcist who has done spiritual warfare on a one-on-one level uh you heard from

01:58:29.740 steven strang uh from charisma magazine who has been writing about uh culture war issues and and and

01:58:35.900 and broad spiritual issues in the culture um for for many decades as well and so now we're going to take

01:58:42.940 what we heard from these two christian leaders and we're going to apply it directly to the main issues

01:58:50.220 confronting us domestically in the united states today and we're going to talk about whether we

01:58:55.420 think the issue behind said issue is demonic or is it just we disagree with democrats and that's

01:59:02.060 the conversation that we're going to have coming up for the next two hours just to tease that but

01:59:06.620 let's look back on the conversation that we just had gentlemen and i i'm sure parts of it sound weird

01:59:11.740 parts of it sounds weird to me i i don't i don't come out of a catholic tradition like todd does i don't

01:59:16.940 come out of a charismatic protestant tradition necessarily um i i'm just a guy that believes

01:59:22.780 the bible and jesus made it very clear to to understand the signs of the times and i'm looking

01:59:27.900 at the signs of the times in which we're living in and so that's how you have um you know a movie like

01:59:33.980 nefarious made uh by a couple of catholics uh and an evangelical okay um and starring the guy who 0.94

01:59:41.900 did boondock saints sean patrick flannery all right all of us have something in common uh even

01:59:47.580 though there are areas of disagreement amongst us what do we all have in common we all sean will

01:59:51.820 tell you this is the most important movie he's ever done we all sense something is very very wrong

02:00:00.140 and and and and where we're going is coming from a very very wrong place and that's what we wanted to

02:00:06.460 address here today on the glenn beck radio program so gentlemen your thoughts well as i digest

02:00:11.740 what steven had to say is he and he kept repeating it you know it's we have to unleash

02:00:18.140 the holy spirit corporately in this upside down world well one body many parts so it's incumbent on

02:00:26.540 us as christians how how do we do that well i think this starts off i've talked a lot on our show about

02:00:34.060 the addiction uh of men of the west uh to comfort and the simple truth of the matter is that just within

02:00:41.180 members of the church there's way too many people who start their day and they talk about their

02:00:46.380 plans steve's plans todd's plans aaron's plans they don't talk about god's plans they don't talk about

02:00:52.060 the fact that it is god's day and not theirs i i think until we alter that psychology we can't even

02:00:58.780 get to step two yeah get comfortable getting uncomfortable that's the name of the game that's

02:01:04.540 really the bottom line that's the biggest hurdle i think so many people especially the men of the

02:01:10.060 west face on on a day-to-day basis it's the unwillingness to get uncomfortable spiritually

02:01:17.820 or temporally spiritually hey i need to smash some of my own idols all of us all three of us in this room

02:01:25.820 probably to some degree need to do that everybody listening needs to do that once you've smashed those

02:01:32.220 idols then what's next go start smashing other idols as well that requires confrontation it requires

02:01:40.300 a willingness a willingness to do what needs to be done and fortunately in our country we are we are on

02:01:48.380 the brink what needs to be done is a lot more confrontation politically in your communities and

02:01:56.300 using whatever peaceful mechanism we have in order to change things to more align with god's design

02:02:04.380 that's the name of the game but it starts with the willingness to get comfortable being uncomfortable

02:02:11.420 conversations like we had here today are not commonplace in our country they used to be in

02:02:15.660 an era's past so they kind of sound peculiar or odd to us that's that's one of the that's one of the

02:02:22.620 big problems is that it sounds peculiar and odd to us when these used to happen very commonly

02:02:28.860 so i hope that you enjoyed it i hope you stick around and listen to us continue on here on blaze

02:02:33.260 tv on the steve day show for the rest of you john 3 17.

The Glenn Beck Program - June 06, 2023

Why the Spiritual Realm is Key to the Culture Wars ｜ Guests： Daniel Horowitz & Fr. Carlos Martins ｜ 6⧸6⧸23

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