The Glenn Beck Program - June 06, 2023


Why the Spiritual Realm is Key to the Culture Wars | Guests: Daniel Horowitz & Fr. Carlos Martins | 6⧸6⧸23


Episode Stats

Length

2 hours and 2 minutes

Words per Minute

169.87048

Word Count

20,858

Sentence Count

48

Misogynist Sentences

7

Hate Speech Sentences

17


Summary

In this episode of The Glenn Beck Program, the hosts of the Glenn Beck Show fill in for host Glenn Beck filling in for him this morning. This is the first part of a two-parter that will take you on a tour of Glenn Beck's life and career.


Transcript

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00:01:29.620 what you are about to hear is the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment this is the glenn back program
00:01:58.080 so much happening that is disturbing but is there more happening than meets the eye we will discuss
00:02:13.840 here this morning steve days filling in on the glenn beck program
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00:03:24.480 filling in for glenn beck this morning is the show that's usually on after glenn beck each morning
00:03:35.540 here on blaze tv or maybe we're new to those of you listening to us on hundreds of stations around the
00:03:41.860 country my name is steve dace and if you are a blaze tv subscriber um good news and bad news um the bad
00:03:49.440 news is you get me for five consecutive hours today and that means that there really is no good news
00:03:56.480 there's just that so my name is steve dace i'm here with my partners in crime todd erzin and aaron
00:04:02.500 mcintyre we are the follow-up act on blaze tv for those of you that aren't subscribers and you should
00:04:09.000 be at blaze tv.com slash dace just ten dollars a month if you want to subscribe to blaze tv there
00:04:14.340 you can also subscribe to our podcast for free right now just look for steve day's show
00:04:18.840 d-e-a-c-e and you can go back and get a taste of um why they only let us do this a couple times
00:04:25.240 a year filling in for glenn because we are best in in small doses microscopically small um we have
00:04:32.780 um a lot to get to later on in the show today uh the latter part of this program the final two-thirds
00:04:38.980 we are going to take a look at some of the wider spiritual implications of what is going on in our
00:04:45.700 country because there there are things being discussed and being debated questions being asked
00:04:52.220 answers being given that are just unprecedented on a generational basis and frankly not all that
00:05:00.200 encouraging unless we understand the signs of the times and so we're going to try to do our best today
00:05:06.080 to equip you to do that as always you can let us know what you think about what we think you can
00:05:10.980 email us steve at stevedace.com follow me on twitter at steveday show you can look for me as well stevedace
00:05:17.240 on facebook me we gab and getter steveday show on instagram and tiktok as well uh we always value
00:05:24.200 your feedback but the first feedback we value is aaron's rundown of what happened while we were away
00:05:30.980 what happened while we were away brought to you by the latest from the biden crime family
00:05:35.980 house oversight committee chairman james comer said monday he's going to begin the process of
00:05:40.800 holding fbi director christopher ray in contempt of congress despite viewing and being briefed by
00:05:46.740 bureau officials on the subpoenaed document that alleges president joe biden was involved in a
00:05:51.880 criminal bribery scheme the fbi brought the document in question to capitol hill on monday for comer and
00:05:57.740 ranking member jamie raskin a democrat to review in a secure facility that document is an fbi generated
00:06:04.320 form that allegedly describes a five million dollar criminal scheme involving then vice president joe
00:06:10.240 biden and a foreign national relating to the exchange of money for policy decisions late yesterday
00:06:15.800 afternoon congresswoman anna paulina luna raised a ton of eyebrows when she tweeted out the following
00:06:21.000 quote just left meeting for house oversight the fbi is afraid their informant will be killed if
00:06:26.400 unmasked based on the info he has brought forward about the biden family moving on new hampshire
00:06:32.940 governor chris sununu tells cnn he's not going to run for president in 2024 when you look at what's
00:06:38.620 happening out there you obviously have a very large field um i think the former president trump is doing
00:06:43.680 much better in the polls than folks thought and when i looked at where my voice can be how we make the
00:06:48.720 republican party uh bigger the responsibility that i think i have in terms of focusing on the republican
00:06:53.820 party and ultimately focusing on the opportunities for the country um and having a little more of a
00:06:58.200 candid a little more unleashed voice former vice president mike pence has filed paperwork to run for
00:07:03.180 president florida first lady casey de santis at this point may be the target of more hit pieces and
00:07:08.020 pointed criticism from mainstream media than jill biden and michelle obama combined the latest example
00:07:13.660 is this headline from the daily beast casey de santis is the walmart melania that's a piece from the
00:07:19.900 executive editor at the daily beast katie baker attempting to trash cancer survivor casey de santis
00:07:26.280 a former intelligence official turned whistleblower has given congress and the intel community inspector
00:07:31.920 general extensive classified information about deeply covert programs that he says possess retrieved
00:07:38.760 intact and partially intact craft of non-human origin the whistleblower is 36 year old david charles
00:07:45.840 grush a decorated former combat officer in afghanistan and a veteran of the national geospatial
00:07:51.880 intelligence agency in the national reconnaissance office in an exclusive interview he told the
00:07:56.940 website the debriefing that the information he obtained about unidentified aerial phenomena as well
00:08:02.300 as the aforementioned extraterrestrial crafts have been illegally withheld from congress and he's filed
00:08:08.060 a complaint alleging he suffered illegal retaliation for his confidential disclosures the social media
00:08:14.500 accounts for the children's television shows sesame street and peppa pig as well as the children's toy
00:08:20.100 play-doh and little league baseball are among those children's centric organizations who came out this
00:08:25.640 weekend with rainbow adorned posts doing the siegheil to the rainbow flag meanwhile target's stock has been
00:08:32.200 downgraded by jp morgan from essentially a buy to neutral meaning the country's largest bank is souring on the
00:08:38.600 company's value in completely unrelated news or not this video from several years ago of blackrock
00:08:44.140 ceo david fink is making the rounds again blackrock as you know is that multinational huge investment
00:08:50.340 company this video says a lot about what you're seeing from huge corporations during the month of
00:08:55.180 june and throughout the rest of the year you have to force behaviors and if you don't force behaviors
00:09:02.060 whether it's gender or race or just any way you want to say the composition of your team
00:09:08.140 you're going to be impacted and it has to be imbued in the culture of a firm it has to be talked about
00:09:14.820 it has to be shown behaviors across the entire firm in every region have to be similar and every citizen
00:09:23.940 of the firm has to understand what is acceptable behaviors and what are unacceptable youtube is reversing
00:09:30.240 a policy that banned all commentary about elections being stolen or rigged in the aftermath of the
00:09:35.560 2020 election youtube enacted the policy removing all content that stated or insinuated the election
00:09:41.900 wasn't the most secure election in human history in reaction to this new cnn's kirsten powers who wrote
00:09:48.440 the 2015 book the silencing how the left is killing free speech had this to say if the problem is that
00:09:55.440 oh people aren't going to be able to upload things that republicans are saying maybe republicans
00:09:59.920 just stop saying it right is that not the solution to the problem apple has unveiled its brand new
00:10:05.700 augmented reality headset the company says the product named vision pro will revolutionize
00:10:11.960 wearable technology and create a new platform for consumer computing the ar headset will retail for
00:10:18.100 about 3500 when it goes on sale and finally this from the babylon b apple allows child laborers to
00:10:25.580 wear vision headsets at work so it seems like they're at the playground and that's what happened
00:10:30.200 well we were away first i want to thank the daily beast for reminding me i've got to go to walmart
00:10:34.580 actually later today so there's that i gotta add that to my to-do list um i think the timing of youtube
00:10:41.780 which is the second largest search engine on this planet the largest video provider on this planet
00:10:49.420 i think the timing of them lifting the uh the moratorium the censorship ban on questioning
00:10:55.700 elections i find that to be multi-tiered i mean just yesterday i think it was robert f kennedy jr said he
00:11:00.960 still thinks that john carrey won the 2004 presidential election for example so i think you could look at
00:11:07.160 this a couple different ways um uh you know if you have to sometimes look at things from your opponent's
00:11:13.480 perspective not to say that you should adopt your opponent's views but to strategically understand where they
00:11:18.520 are coming from they think discussion about re-litigating the last election is a loser for our
00:11:24.180 side they think that so since youtube is an instrument of their side it could very well be that they are
00:11:29.460 lifting it now that we are heavily into the primary season and everything else and yes you guys keep
00:11:34.180 running on re-litigating the 2020 election because that's unpopular i could see that being the strategy
00:11:39.120 over there at at google youtube i could see that being the strategy there um it could also you could also
00:11:44.820 maybe assume that they are looking at some of the polls recently and and contemplating they might
00:11:50.280 lose that's it and they need to be the ones questioning the integrity of elections moving
00:11:54.380 forward in 2025 and beyond so let's just go ahead and uh lift that puppy right now and clear the air
00:12:00.840 thoughts whatever the worst possible explanation is it's probably that one that's true you think it's
00:12:06.060 the latter more than the former absolutely i could see that as well uh on the the biden crime family
00:12:11.760 stuff here here's where i am at on all this stuff and it's why if you follow me on twitter at steve
00:12:17.060 day show you don't see me pontificate with long threads about it uh these stories and it's not like
00:12:22.740 i'm not interested i'm not informed and don't care um i want the republican party to prove to me that it is
00:12:29.300 interested and it cares otherwise it's just a talking point anybody anybody shocked
00:12:35.540 james comber from kentucky has a lifetime liberty score at conservative review of 75 percent that's
00:12:44.980 very average average and really indistinguishable he's not excellent at anything and now suddenly he
00:12:55.620 is the ezekiel watchman on the wall with the biden crime family come on man
00:13:00.720 it's more likely he's carrying water for democrats yeah they're going to exit biden stage left yeah i
00:13:07.600 mean well convince them that they give them the ground to do that but this is a week after they
00:13:13.600 sold us out on the debt ceiling and we'll get to that at the bottom of the hour with our good friend
00:13:17.120 and colleague here at blaze media daniel horowitz how the republicans essentially republican leadership
00:13:22.920 essentially took every last meaningful fight we were going to have in this congress and punted until
00:13:29.480 2025 thus making your vote in the 2022 midterms irrelevant already unless prove me wrong i don't
00:13:38.720 want any more this is all a dog and pony show and contempt of congress and everything else with chris
00:13:43.340 ray this is this is kevin mccarthy three weeks ago tweeting out adam shift should be expelled from
00:13:49.100 the house is there anybody that has a job that might make you uniquely positioned to
00:13:56.620 to pursue such a and and an action with what you know like if there was somebody who like led the
00:14:03.180 house you know presided over it and and like had a symbol like you know a gavel or something in their
00:14:09.380 hands that would and and a seat that clearly demonstrated that they were in charge of this
00:14:14.800 uh fine institution this venerable institution that was uniquely empowered to pursue said action but
00:14:22.280 apparently no such office exists so we're just going to tweet things all right so i don't want to hear
00:14:29.940 the speaker say adam shift should be expelled i want to watch him expel him i want to hear any more
00:14:37.380 talking points or press conferences or cryptic tweets all right do or do not there is no try
00:14:44.360 faith without works is dead get off your rear ends do your damn jobs we don't care enough
00:14:50.080 this is just all talking points democrats had the exact same slim majority man they end up impeaching
00:14:58.440 trump for stuff he was proven correct about ukraine and quid pro quos enough action or nothing nothing
00:15:07.840 in between and i say this in conservative media i don't need your talking points i can program my show
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00:16:24.160 all right back here on the glenn beck program steve dace filling in from the steve dace show
00:16:39.700 alongside totters and aaron mcintyre filling in for our great blaze tv patriarch the hall of famer
00:16:45.100 glenn beck today much of our show this morning is going to be devoted to what is happening in our
00:16:51.600 culture in the unseen realm that is spilling out into what we are seeing in our dead in our daily
00:16:58.160 headlines almost at our deadly headlines i would have been a freudian slip that would have been
00:17:01.140 cash money homie all right we will actually today have a follow-up because we're doing five straight
00:17:06.260 hours so the steve dace show that you will watch after we're done here on the glenn beck program today
00:17:11.060 on blaze tv will be a direct follow-up to this conversation we're going to play a little game today
00:17:16.480 we're going to talk to a couple of really important thinkers on spiritual matters in the next couple of
00:17:21.340 hours on the show and then we're going to go right into our daily program on blaze tv here on the
00:17:27.200 steve dace show right after glenn here today and we're going to take what they told us and they taught
00:17:32.420 us and shared and we're going to apply it to daily headlines and i prepared a list of what i think are
00:17:38.180 the are the 10 most pressing contemporary political issues that we are looking at and we're going to play
00:17:44.580 a little game today later today on blaze tv demonic or just democrats demonic or just democrats meaning
00:17:52.260 is it just good old-fashioned political debate albeit more radical than a previous era or is
00:17:57.880 there more here than meets the eye is there more happening than we think um and is the unseen realm
00:18:03.300 spilled over into the realm that we can see and touch and feel so we'll do that today right after we're done
00:18:08.560 filling in for glenn this morning five straight hours of us right here if you are a blaze tv subscriber
00:18:13.440 if you're not you want to at least get the podcast just look for me steve day show on itunes spotify
00:18:18.760 stitcher etc all right elsewhere in aaron's montage i want to discuss chris sinunu's announcement
00:18:25.480 yesterday because for those of you that don't know me or aren't familiar with our show we live in iowa
00:18:30.580 the first of the nation caucus state we broadcast from there every day that's where our studio is in
00:18:35.700 fact in the heart of iowa des moines right smack dab in the middle of the state and that was really how
00:18:41.000 i cut my teeth in this industry was doing local news talk radio on the big clear channel blowtorch
00:18:47.900 there who radio uh and kind of stumbling into being influential in the iowa caucus process i i was young
00:18:56.220 new i didn't have a clue i wasn't i mean i didn't really have an idea just how prominent
00:19:02.260 that media platform was going to be and the doors that it was going to open for me and it's just
00:19:09.100 that's just been part of what we do ever since and so we're already been very involved in the
00:19:13.860 caucus process i've been involved in every iowa caucus from a low-level activist that walked my
00:19:19.880 fellow alan keys delegates to their seats at the iowa straw poll in 1996 to uh you know whatever it is
00:19:26.440 that is that it is you see today and one of the things i have to do every single cycle is clear up
00:19:31.840 a crap ton of misconceptions about what goes on in the iowa caucuses uh chris sununu not my brand
00:19:39.700 of republican certainly uh and and understand pretty much any time a republican republican talks about
00:19:44.940 uh growing the party what they really mean is replacing you and you're and diluting your voice that's
00:19:50.780 what it really means so not my brand of republican at all but i'm into the truth and the truth is he's
00:19:55.820 very popular in new hampshire he has a 65 approval rating last time i looked and that's actually down
00:20:02.360 from 72 a few months prior him not running for president is a big deal because you have our
00:20:09.540 traditional iowa new hampshire parlay and if he were to run i get emails from grassroots activists
00:20:15.820 in new hampshire we don't like him and i i'm sure you don't but you're only going to be a small it's a
00:20:20.340 primary not a caucus in new hampshire i mean more than a quarter of a million people are going to vote
00:20:24.660 and so sort of that you know low information gop primary voter that loves sending lindsey
00:20:29.580 graham to the senate for 30 years they're gonna have a big say in a state like new hampshire not
00:20:33.520 so much in iowa because of our caucus process um and and that kind of republican loves chris sununu
00:20:39.340 almost called him his uh father's name john um him not running though means that will guarantee
00:20:45.580 that new hampshire will be fully um contested i'm not sure what the only two candidates who really
00:20:52.480 matter trump and desantis i'm not sure how they would have handled new hampshire if he were not
00:20:56.300 in the race but for people who say all that matters is national polls keep this in mind
00:21:00.760 no republican that didn't finish in the top three in iowa has ever won the presidency
00:21:05.800 no republican who except one who didn't finish in the top three in iowa has even won the nomination
00:21:11.300 and he finished fourth by 0.39 points and 10 of the 12 republicans to win the presidency
00:21:18.240 since the primary process that we know today began in 1976 uh won the new hampshire primary
00:21:24.260 so and all i think five republicans ever have won both iowa and new hampshire in the same cycle
00:21:31.580 and every single one of them became the nominee so yeah you bet your rear end these early states
00:21:37.180 matter quite a bit uh and and now we know what is it today june 6th we know now for sure that both
00:21:44.300 iowa and new hampshire will be fully contested and fully open as our traditional primary parlay so
00:21:51.340 the calendar now is set and now they're off the race is on and may the best man win all right when
00:21:58.780 we come back here in a moment i mentioned earlier the debt ceiling deal that was cut last week that
00:22:03.420 essentially took every meaningful fight that you voted for republican congress last year off the
00:22:07.820 table until proven otherwise one of them is a reckoning of what was done to this country the last
00:22:14.500 few years via covid19 people still have not been held accountable we still don't have a nuremberg
00:22:21.660 like trial and nuremberg like punishments and there's new data out that shows we need it now more
00:22:28.060 than ever we'll discuss next
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00:24:18.620 all right back here on the glenn beck program steve dace filling in alongside totters and
00:24:23.180 an aaron mcintyre we are the steve dace show and if you are a blaze tv subscriber you know who we are
00:24:28.300 and you're going to get plenty of us today five straight hours of us here on blaze tv so our show
00:24:34.060 is still to come after this one we're going to spend a good deal of time the next two hours on the show
00:24:40.220 looking at whether or not more than meets the eye is happening in our culture today when you look at
00:24:45.420 the sorts of debates we are having are having now they have crossed over long ago from the
00:24:50.620 political to the existential so we'll get into that over the next couple of hours but we're going to
00:24:54.380 have a bit of an existential conversation right now earlier this year uh my colleague here at blaze
00:24:59.820 media and i uh my colleague daniel horowitz and i we wrote a best-selling book that was released
00:25:05.100 earlier this year rise of the fourth reich confronting covet fascism with a new nuremberg trial so this never
00:25:11.260 happens again you can still if you've not gotten the book it is still up on amazon right now by the
00:25:15.740 way you can also uh try and read the introductory chapter if you want for free at trials and execution
00:25:21.820 dot com trials and execution dot com or just get the book on amazon we structured this book after a
00:25:27.180 mock nuremberg trial and if you know anything about daniel and i we brought receipts when you put daniel
00:25:31.900 and i together you get 400 pages of them that's how many receipts are in this book and a lot of the
00:25:36.460 receipts though come in the way of witness testimony interviewing whistleblowers from the
00:25:41.340 department of defense the the health care sector uh individual americans who greatly suffered the last
00:25:47.020 few years under the lockdowns the masks um the the edicts uh the the poison poke that we are still
00:25:53.420 suffering from today and last year it the republicans keep in in washington anyway keep finding a way to
00:26:03.340 actually out uh pessimist me like i was convinced even even in my normal pessimistic self that they
00:26:12.460 would give us some form of tribunal on covet even it was just the origins of the virus because they
00:26:17.820 need to keep us occupied because i knew they would surrender on the debt and everything else they
00:26:21.500 couldn't just do nothing for two years they had to feed us something to keep us distracted well
00:26:26.540 lo and behold as we welcome daniel horowitz to the program daniel we are sitting here now in early
00:26:30.860 june they have been in congress now the republicans in charge for six months they have provided us
00:26:35.340 absolutely nothing of substance on covid that's origins on any of the other um alleged solutions that
00:26:41.980 were worse than the disease nothing for six months and with this debt deal they basically are going to
00:26:47.020 continue to finance this now into perpetuity and this is coming ironically my friend at a time
00:26:52.860 that all kinds of data is coming out now and from a lot of mainstream sources verifying the kinds of
00:26:59.500 things people like you and me have been saying for years and we document in our book rise of the
00:27:03.020 fourth right all right let's come back to me apparently we're having issues with them hearing
00:27:06.620 daniel horowitz and we're not we're not exactly sure why so
00:27:13.260 let me start aaron can you work on that for us please and then let let me let me just give you an
00:27:17.660 example of some of the data that has come out just recently uh off the top of my head here um latest
00:27:24.540 study latest data out of the uk finding about 90 of those who died with covid um in the most recent
00:27:33.580 report were actually uh fully jabbed fully jabbed 90 90 90 90 percent which means what three to four
00:27:42.780 shots yeah yeah that would that would mean that would mean a dose and a booster now under the current
00:27:47.740 definition yes um we uh we've we've seen studies where the the poke leads to um what are called
00:27:55.500 blood clots ocular blood clots that that can lead to blindness um i think we have daniel back daniel
00:28:02.460 you're there let's try it again can you hear me all right go ahead uh start over with what you were
00:28:06.300 saying apparently they couldn't hear you on in in radio land i want to make sure they hear everything
00:28:10.140 you had to say so start over brother sure steve i mean here's the deal the worse these shots
00:28:15.900 get or at least the more they're exposed the less republicans do about it when we said that there
00:28:22.220 needs to be a reckoning for if there's not a reckoning this will happen again i didn't think
00:28:26.620 it would happen that quickly they are already doing what they did with the covet shots on rsv
00:28:32.540 a lot of people don't realize that within the last few months the fda and cdc advisory committees
00:28:39.900 held hearings on the rsv shots from gsk and from pfizer and they admitted that there's problems with
00:28:47.020 Guillain-Barre syndrome there's problems with prenatal uh birth you know premature births
00:28:53.020 there was a woman a pregnant woman in her 30s who died in the gsk trial in the moderna trial
00:28:59.580 moderna has not been approved yet but it will there were 200 adverse events 10 serious ones
00:29:05.660 per one mild case avoided based on their fraudulent data so you have prima facie
00:29:13.580 negative cost benefit matrix there and they approve it anyway this is going to go in the arm of every
00:29:20.460 senior and then they're going to go down the totem pole uh to children they're going to put it on the
00:29:26.700 child vaccination schedule rsv was the original shot that had negative efficacy as you noted we find out
00:29:34.860 every day the data and the mechanism behind the data of why there is negative efficacy um as as the
00:29:43.500 antibodies wane um antibodies are not lollipops i mean i think that's what we should all learn
00:29:49.420 you would think people with mds would understand basic pre-med immunology but god created the right
00:29:56.460 sort of antibodies in the right amount amount in the right classification and the right time and place
00:30:01.820 in your body now maybe you could replicate that once in a while steve but that that's a tall order
00:30:07.180 the notion that we can um prick people with 72 jabs before they're 18 years old and and that
00:30:14.540 number is rapidly rising uh if we allow what's in the pipeline to get into people's arms the notion
00:30:21.260 that you could add all that inflammation in the body and you don't have auto antibodies
00:30:25.820 is absurd and i think you know there's a lot we can talk about what has come out new since the book
00:30:33.100 has come out but to me one of the biggest ones is that german study which is now peer-reviewed in
00:30:39.820 journal vaccines that discovered this igg4 classification of antibodies at insanely high levels in those who are
00:30:49.980 jabbed with the pfizer shot and what's igg4 it's really the rosetta stone to why to what we're seeing
00:30:57.660 the more you inject the more you infect rather than them being neutralizing antibodies they're tolerating
00:31:06.220 antibodies so they're a trojan horse that they tolerate the pathogen which is why you get it more
00:31:13.580 often but what what the peer-reviewed version showed steve it's not just the negative efficacy
00:31:19.980 what happens when you suppress the immune system when you tamp down you compete with the proper
00:31:28.300 neutralizing antibodies for these tolerating antibodies well they say increased igg4 synthesis
00:31:35.500 due to repeated mrna vaccination with high antigen concentrations may also cause
00:31:41.900 autoimmune diseases and promote cancer growth and autoimmune myocarditis so meaning not just
00:31:51.020 myocarditis from the spike protein the blood clotting but also from your body itself the immune system
00:31:57.020 attacking the heart muscle and increased cancers because you know every time you're talking about
00:32:03.020 immune suppression so you have negative efficacy against pathogens we're seeing a lot more respiratory
00:32:07.980 viruses we're actually seeing an uptick in rsv because of the covid shots oh and now they have
00:32:13.260 leaky rsv shots to deal with that have you killed and have you inherited as elijah said to ahab but in
00:32:21.100 addition you're going to see cancer because your immune system is also a surveillance against cancer i
00:32:27.020 mean this is a german peer-reviewed study in vaccines obviously we have the cleveland clinic study that
00:32:33.100 achieved peer review recently uh 50 000 health care workers showing a direct correlation with the more
00:32:39.180 doses you had the more often you get the shots there's another study out of germany that pardon me
00:32:44.780 daniel there's another study study came out of germany just last week that showed mysteriously that
00:32:49.180 that's that's almost exactly the wording something happened we can't tell you what it is but something
00:32:53.740 happened in the spring uh of of 2021 that that ever since has led to this uh abnormally high spike in excess
00:33:00.700 deaths and the timetable just happens to coincide with that here in our country that there was that
00:33:06.620 german study as well and what's important about that is is that this is a long-term problem so the hope is
00:33:14.140 you maybe flush the spike protein out of your body after a couple of months but but the problem with that is
00:33:20.140 long-term autoimmune long-term you know diminished cancer um surveillance among your immune system you
00:33:30.540 know various components of the immune system and then again how your immune system could attack
00:33:35.100 your heart muscle that's a long-term problem because you know you look at some of what we're seeing in
00:33:39.420 the uk in the uk the all-cause mortality increase is not going down in fact the week ending march 31st
00:33:49.340 that's pretty recently okay it's about two months ago almost nobody's getting new shots now 21.5 percent
00:33:57.580 um increase in the five-year baseline of of uh excess deaths there yeah you had in quebec a couple months
00:34:06.860 ago they had the worst month of mortality of the entire pandemic so these studies are starting to shed
00:34:13.900 light on this i'll share one more with you we had quickly biologist kevin mckernan on on on my podcast
00:34:21.100 and he's the first person to test the vials and he found an unacceptable level of these dna double
00:34:28.700 stranded dna plasmids floating around because um the the rna is derived from from dna and it's taken
00:34:38.940 from e coli actually and they're supposed to take that out you take out the contaminants
00:34:45.660 but they're there and what he was concerned about is that this could pretend a greater risk for
00:34:52.140 anaphylaxis for blood clotting for developing resistance to antibiotics um gene integration
00:34:58.700 as well because now you've got the dna floating around in there and then also the long-term production
00:35:04.060 of spike protein because the question is do you have the dna which is the the the gun to fire more
00:35:10.780 of that mrna to produce the spike long term and when you start seeing on at an epidemiological level
00:35:18.380 all of this record high excess mortality long after the take-up of the vaccine when really
00:35:25.260 nobody is getting it that lends a lot of credence to the fact that this might be a long-term problem
00:35:30.700 and that the estimated according to ethical skeptic and other data points we've seen about 550 000
00:35:37.820 vaccine deaths in the u.s that could just be the opening act so essentially what went on here is
00:35:43.340 for up to six months depending on where you live in the country you were denied anything other than
00:35:47.340 emergency care that means pre-screenings uh any kinds of things that they would do traditionally
00:35:52.220 for age groups on any serious maladies and particularly with cancer or heart disease you
00:35:56.940 were denied those things uh because of covet in the lockdowns and then right out and shortly thereafter
00:36:01.900 they introduced a toxin into the into the into the community and into the country right after they
00:36:07.740 denied you six months of preventative health care because you cannot mess with the immune system at warp
00:36:12.780 speed that's what happened here when we come back i have a ratio and a big one last big question i want
00:36:18.940 to ask my co-author of rise of the forthright daniel horowitz our colleague here at blaze media in a moment glenn back
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00:37:46.780 all right back here to close out hour one on the glenbeck program i'm steve dace alongside my
00:37:51.340 colleague and co-author of rise of the fourth reich daniel horowitz daniel as you know back
00:37:56.300 in january rasmussen came out with a poll that showed about seven percent of american households
00:38:00.620 believe uh that uh they know or someone they know had suffered some form of a serious adverse event or
00:38:08.300 died as a result of the covet vaccine also that month the michigan state professor came out after
00:38:13.260 looking at the cdc's v-safe data in 2021 so just the first year of the vaccine rollout and he found that
00:38:19.500 there was about a seven percent uh at serious adverse event ratio within the v-safe data i did
00:38:25.180 the math on that so if 2.1 percent of covet infected were hospitalized according to cdc 0.6 percent is the
00:38:32.220 covet ifr and both of those are before we stratify for age and comorbidity uh and seven percent suffered
00:38:39.580 a serious adverse event that would mean that you were 233 percent more likely to suffer from the jab than
00:38:46.380 be hospitalized from covid and that you were a thousand and 67 percent more likely to suffer from
00:38:51.820 the jab than die from covid and that's actually using 2021 data when the jab was the most efficacious
00:38:58.860 i've got about 90 seconds left what's up what's the big point from what i just said
00:39:04.940 again the the cost of covid is sunk not that this work again worked against it anyway but as far as the
00:39:12.860 cost of the vaccines that's just the opening act that's what's important to remember we need
00:39:19.340 all that money that by the way republicans refuse to claw back in the debt ceiling deal for vaccines
00:39:24.700 we not need that going into treatment because then there's the issue of the next generation
00:39:29.420 what we found is that the european medicines agency has all these post-pharmacovigilance uh documents
00:39:35.820 and 54 percent of the 458 pregnant women that they observed experienced adverse events 11.6 percent
00:39:44.460 experienced miscarriages and most notably six of the babies experienced serious aes that they caused
00:39:51.900 that they considered that the vaccine transferred trans placentally that is a term they use trans
00:39:59.420 placentally we now know it transfers through the placenta we know it transfers through the
00:40:05.180 mother's milk and we know that the cohort of people still getting the vaccine because they're
00:40:11.500 pressured like anything are pregnant women so we're not even done with it for this generation
00:40:19.180 but we now have a problem even for the next generation that themselves didn't necessarily get
00:40:23.420 the shots and there is no reckoning even as they're doing the same thing with rsv flu and by the way
00:40:31.100 they're going to create these annual combo shots all right we got to go hey are you up to date on your
00:40:35.660 covid flu rsv booster this is still going on thank you daniel good to see you get your copy of rise of
00:40:43.260 the fourth reich we'll be back with hours two and three is there more than meets the eye happening in
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00:44:11.660 all right back here on the glenn beck program i am steve dace he's totters and he's aaron mcintyre
00:44:17.820 we are usually on after glenn beck right here on blaze tv and we will be again today that's right
00:44:23.260 you are getting five consecutive hours of the steve day show here on blaze tv those of you that are
00:44:29.260 listening on hundreds of stations around the country good news for you you're only getting three we
00:44:33.740 figured um you've suffered enough uh and people pay us at blaze tv to suffer accordingly uh and no
00:44:42.060 no mas no mas and and suffer they shall for five straight hours today here on blaze tv all right
00:44:48.620 the next four hours of me and todd and aaron both on glenn show and then on our show we are going to
00:44:56.940 focus on what is going on spiritually in the culture today and about eight years ago i wrote a book
00:45:05.420 uh called a nefarious plot that i patterned after c.s lewis's the screw tape letters and i
00:45:11.820 kind of wanted to take it a step further from the temptation of individuals to the takedown of an
00:45:16.300 entire country and some of it i i thought is is things that might happen in the distant future
00:45:21.660 i thought were happening now and you know reading the book now will literally scare the hell out of
00:45:26.620 you because it's amazing how and sad how prophetic it now is and i got a call uh a few months after the
00:45:32.620 book came out out of the blue from a couple of guys uh a couple of charismatic catholics name uh
00:45:38.860 carrie solomon and chuck consulman called me out of the blue one day and said hey we want to
00:45:43.260 we want to we want to buy the movie rights to your book our colleague chris jones heard you talking
00:45:47.900 about it here on glenn beck show and we think it would make a a hella movie and they were just about
00:45:53.740 to begin working on the unplanned film and this was their next movie and then covet hit and
00:45:58.540 little did we know that would just be the beginning of a myriad of challenges to bring
00:46:02.380 this film uh to the screen uh nefarious was in theaters uh i think last week was the last week
00:46:08.140 of its run we lasted eight weeks in movie theaters across the country despite incredible obstacles to
00:46:14.540 even get the film made uh and and distributed it's now out on streaming around the country uh yesterday
00:46:21.820 we were top 10 on itunes and apple we were number three on google and youtube um and then we were
00:46:30.220 number nine i think it was on voodoo so number one on salem now so if you want to you want to rent um
00:46:38.140 nefarious if you want to see it again or didn't get a chance to see it in theaters it is available
00:46:42.300 on those platforms right now and our guest this hour has some experience with what we experienced
00:46:50.460 making and distributing this film in fact he experienced some of it with us as a matter of fact
00:46:54.380 but this is right up his alley in his area of expertise and that's because he's the host of
00:46:59.260 the exorcist files podcast that is available now father carlos martins is our guest father it is a
00:47:05.580 great to see you again how are you brother i am great yeah good good to be with you steve i want to
00:47:11.820 start with kind of your background you went from an atheist to an exorcist that i mean i i work in
00:47:20.780 politics full-time brother and i've seen a lot of evolutions okay they happen quite frequently usually
00:47:26.620 around the time we all vote yours is one of the most stark evolutions anyone will ever have you went
00:47:31.420 from an atheist to on the front lines fighting evil spirits how does that happen well gosh i guess it was
00:47:39.260 a a two-step process um you know first of all so i was an atheist i i didn't have an axe to grind
00:47:46.300 against god or or or the church uh certainly not against christian believing however i what what
00:47:54.380 occurred was i was in college and i had an experience whereby i i met a bunch of students
00:48:03.100 and a small number of professors who were devout christians and they their witness the the peace
00:48:10.540 that they exuded the tranquility that i saw in them made me aware of how impoverished i was
00:48:17.740 and their character their witness was was powerfully attractive and i just found myself
00:48:25.100 hanging out with them more and more now i thought they were wrong you know my atheism was an intellectual
00:48:31.260 conclusion based on reality the way i i i perceived it you know if god exists why is why is the world like
00:48:37.820 this um but they invited me on to a retreat and on that retreat i had an experience of god so i went
00:48:48.380 into that retreat in an atheist and i came out a believer and what i did on that retreat and and i i
00:48:55.580 felt to be honest completely foolish doing this i you know i knelt down and and um i i said to god i said
00:49:03.500 to the lord if if you exist and i don't believe you do but if you exist please reveal yourself to me
00:49:09.420 and and if if if you do if you can give me the faith that i see in them i will give you my life
00:49:16.700 and so um i i had an experience of god and an experience that was so strong and so frankly startling
00:49:25.820 that it's just as startling for me today it's just as real it's just i mean that that experience
00:49:32.140 experience was was timeless in the sense that it feels like it occurred five minutes ago
00:49:37.900 but it changed my life and so then i later on you know i finished my college studies i did two graduate
00:49:45.580 degrees and then i sensed a call to the to the priesthood after that and it was in my formation
00:49:52.700 as a priest uh it was actually the the year before i was ordained when i was when i was a deacon
00:49:57.820 that i was put into exorcism ministry and so i here i am so this is a real thing right this is
00:50:06.620 this is one of the largest radio audiences in the country right now and and so there's going to be a
00:50:12.780 lot of diversity of opinion on such things this is real this isn't just the stuff of movies this goes
00:50:18.860 on real demonic possession oppression persecution occurs you've witnessed this firsthand you were
00:50:26.380 trained to confront this what's that training like well uh there certainly is training for it and and
00:50:34.620 but one of the one of the odd things the quirky things about me is that i didn't have any training
00:50:40.380 so what what happened is i i was assigned as my uh first parish church after ordination as a deacon
00:50:49.900 i was assigned to an extraordinarily large church and the exorcists of that archdiocese were stationed
00:50:57.820 there uh so i was i was a help to them uh in the matters pertaining to running that church
00:51:04.060 uh and so but they had so many cases of actual possession and oppression of persons that when
00:51:13.580 something lesser would come in for example a house infestation like haunting phenomena within a house or
00:51:20.460 uh some some kind of object or an animal that uh some diabolical influences is happening upon this animal
00:51:29.100 like in in a clear way it's operating in a way that that is occultish um one in kind of a moment of
00:51:38.060 exhaustion just turned to me and and when i when a call came in for a house that was exhibiting poltergeist
00:51:45.980 phenomena he just turned to me and said deacon go get rid of the devil so i had zero training but i knew i
00:51:52.940 had an awareness that if the devil is in a place he's there for a reason and so my job is to find
00:52:00.140 out what that reason is and my job is to undo that reason is to help the victim the the relevant family
00:52:07.820 the people who are involved to close whatever door was opened and because as long as that door is open
00:52:14.460 the devil has every right to be there and i don't have the ability to usurp a right from the devil but
00:52:20.540 whoever gave him that right that person or those persons certainly have that that right and that
00:52:27.100 ability i think a lot of us are looking at the broader culture right now and looking at the
00:52:36.300 conversations and debates we are having about first and fundamental things that no previous generation of
00:52:41.660 western civilization ever bothered to argue about just everything else but not these things and are
00:52:46.780 wondering if if the enemy might have an opening in the broader culture before we get to to that broader
00:52:52.620 conversation let's keep it very specific on what you have seen on an individual basis when you talk about
00:52:58.860 openings what do you mean right so what happens is that that where the devil exists or resides if he's formed
00:53:09.100 a relationship with you with your home then what what what's happened is he he there's a there's been a contract made
00:53:20.140 where he has gained a certain right to be there and as long as he possesses that right
00:53:27.500 he i can't evict him nor can nor can really anyone else right just like i can't evict you out of your own
00:53:34.380 home because you have a right to be there and i don't have the right to kick you out therefore
00:53:39.740 but when people do something such as a grievous sin uh such as um commit an act
00:53:50.540 of of of the occult right the use of a ouija board the reagan playing with uh captain howdy on
00:53:57.900 the ouija board and the in the exorcist is kind of the stuff you're talking about exactly okay
00:54:03.100 putting a curse on someone consulting a fortune teller or so forth then you've given the right
00:54:10.700 to the devil to be part of you you've given him the right to have a relationship with you
00:54:15.980 but it doesn't mean just that i mean the the misuse of our sexuality for example like i'm thinking in
00:54:22.220 one case um gentleman he had a one night stand with somebody and his life was absolutely different
00:54:28.300 after that uh he was not in control of his own body and where he was normally free he was no longer
00:54:35.100 free so a debilitating depression um the the parts of his body would act uh in their own accord as if
00:54:44.300 as if they had someone else at the controls um he thought he himself was nuts and this is this is the
00:54:51.020 the difference in the distinction between mental illness so the vast majority of the cases and i
00:54:57.020 would say loosely about 65 percent of the people that come to an exorcist looking for exorcism ministry
00:55:06.220 what they're really suffering from is mental illness right so we employ uh psychologists psychiatrists
00:55:12.460 mental health professionals to to give people an assessment whereby okay they're experiencing something
00:55:20.220 that is distressing let's find the cause of that and most of the time two-thirds of the time roughly
00:55:26.460 it's mental health right so we refer those people to people that can help them but in terms of the rest
00:55:35.500 you know that the other third there's something there that is evil that is affecting them it's not
00:55:43.020 just in their minds but ironically when you have somebody with mental illness the first thing they're
00:55:47.980 going to say is oh i'm not crazy i don't i don't have a mental health problem but the people who do have
00:55:54.860 a genuine diabolical situation on their hands they're the ones that'll say you know i father i think
00:56:01.740 i'm just crazy because i did x but it wasn't me that did it but i know that i did it so they speak
00:56:10.540 in contradictory terms right so when you when you hear that they're what they're describing they're
00:56:17.420 formulating hey that there's someone else at the controls here there's something else doing this um i
00:56:25.580 experienced myself doing it but it wasn't me i didn't want to do it and yet i did it
00:56:31.740 and so then at that point then you begin a diagnostic you test to see does reality correspond
00:56:38.140 to what they're saying i'm up against a break here really quick though how often in that other third
00:56:43.900 father is it just our own sinfulness is it someone that just needs discipled um fruit of the spirit kind
00:56:50.780 of stuff how often is it just that the vast majority the vast majority so sin gives rights to the devil
00:56:56.940 right so when you were conceived inside the mother your mother's womb when when i was we all
00:57:02.620 belong to the devil although we were a creation of god that the penalty for the sin of our first parent
00:57:08.460 adam uh came to us it befell us at the moment we were created we belong to the enemy and this is why
00:57:15.980 we baptize we baptize to remove the rights of the devil to that individual so when we sin we are giving
00:57:24.540 those rights back to the devil so he has every right to possess when there's a grievous sin uh what in
00:57:32.460 what in catholicism we would call a mortal sin a sin that is so grave that it evicts the presence of
00:57:40.220 the holy spirit from within us giving jurisdiction to the devil this is the the sin that has that has no
00:57:46.860 life uh that has no ability to save our lives which is described in scripture all right when we come back
00:57:53.260 have we seen has the father seen an uptick in the kind of activity that he just described
00:57:59.180 isn't in recent years and if so what could that mean uh for the broader culture back in 60 seconds
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00:59:18.780 are back here on the glenn bag program and a lot of us steve days by the way filling in today for
00:59:24.140 glenn a lot of us are looking at what's going on in the broader culture and sensing something
00:59:30.540 more is happening this is this is more than a than a than a culture war and and we agree on this show
00:59:37.420 and we talk about on my normal show anyway and i know glenn agrees a lot of this too i think todd the
00:59:43.020 first time you ever met glenn by the way you had literally the first time you had met him he comes
00:59:49.100 up introduces himself to you right shakes your hand then turns to me and says hey i think we might be
00:59:53.980 close to jesus coming back right i mean that was the first conversation we sat down for like a 45
00:59:57.660 minute talk of the end of days that was the first conversation you ever had with glenn beck by the
01:00:02.780 way so i mean these are themes that this audience will not be unfamiliar with and certainly our show
01:00:07.660 if you listen we even may be even more intent in going through these things particularly because i
01:00:12.460 i have no other explanation for a lot of the things that that are going on in the culture other than
01:00:17.100 what's happening in the unseen realm must be spilling out uh into the natural world father carlos martins
01:00:22.860 is the host of the exorcist files podcast he is with us now um father how many years have have you been
01:00:30.780 on the front lines of of spiritual warfare here how many years have been doing this uh since 2008 so
01:00:37.340 gosh it's been um about 15 years now how many full-fledged exorcisms have you been involved in
01:00:47.020 oh gosh i wouldn't know but it's been many many many dozens many dozens have you seen an uptick in
01:00:54.380 either the frequency and or the potency in in the last few years absolutely yeah steadily every year
01:01:02.460 more calls come in uh and and why is that well a number of reasons but the primary one is you know
01:01:09.900 there's there's the christianity is just being abandoned we're we are no longer a christian culture
01:01:17.260 christendom has been eclipsed western society and so there with this re-embrace of paganism
01:01:24.780 then what you what you have is the devil running amok and people are through through their actions
01:01:33.580 doing things that are just flat out and out evil right i mean what what kids do in high school today
01:01:39.020 you couldn't have imagined 50 years ago maybe i mean if we thought gosh if we thought the 70s and
01:01:45.660 the 80s were bad look at what's happening now in school and you know that the irony is uh in the early
01:01:52.700 in the early centuries during the time of the church fathers right the good the nascent christian
01:01:57.660 church one of the one of the causes for people's conversions is that christian exorcists had such
01:02:06.700 great success over demons over spirits over and above kind of the local witch doctor the local pagan
01:02:14.780 witch doctor that became that became a great apologetic for the christian church right so we're
01:02:21.500 we're entering into that again whereby people are are you know they've tried everything they've visited
01:02:27.900 mental health professionals they've received prescriptions for anti for antidepressants and
01:02:34.220 so we're that's not fixing the problem and so finally they're coming to an exorcist not because
01:02:41.420 they have any kind of faith but because they've exhausted everything else and they've been encouraged
01:02:46.060 by friends like hey you've got nothing to lose go see the go see the priest i've got about a minute
01:02:52.860 here have you ever lost well you know really i'm i'm i'm not one of the people battling it it's it's
01:03:02.700 christ against the demon christ is the true exorcist and and somebody like me we're just an agent so
01:03:10.140 christ never loses he never loses all right we'll come back more with father carlos martins here in a
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01:05:09.580 father carlos martins from the exorcist files podcast because he is an actual exorcist and father
01:05:17.500 forgive me i asked a a difficult question right before the break that was very loaded um but a lot
01:05:23.260 of so i want to reset it a lot of what we get from what you are doing or spiritual warfare comes
01:05:28.220 from movies right and sometimes in the movies the bad guy wins you know in the in the demon
01:05:32.700 possession movie so that's why i wanted to ask you the question have you ever lost and i thought you
01:05:38.460 you drew a very important distinction about what is what is going on here in these confrontations
01:05:44.140 i want to go back and let you kind of reset that answer because i want to make sure everybody heard
01:05:47.580 you clearly yeah sure so look christ never loses he's the real exorcist and the rest of us we're
01:05:54.540 just with the title of exorcist we're just his agents so christ never loses it but but he picks
01:06:01.580 the time of his victory you know i i think you know biblically when you when you look at the most
01:06:06.940 poignant confrontation that christ has with a demoniac which is at the scene at garrison you know that the
01:06:15.260 demon sees christ coming at a distance and runs towards him and says what have you to do with us
01:06:21.740 have you come to destroy us before the appointed time right so they know that that they're going
01:06:27.980 to be utterly and completely defeated the demons know this and they also know that it's christ that's
01:06:34.620 going to do it and so they there is a time that they're aware that this is going to take place
01:06:41.580 and so all of a sudden they see him coming and they're worried wait a minute have you changed the
01:06:47.580 time on us have you moved up the date right we beg you do not torment us right christ is the strong man
01:06:55.580 he's the plunderer of the demonic kingdom so he doesn't lose that the devil has already made a
01:07:00.860 confession of loss right he's already preempted his defeat with with his speech so to speak to the lord
01:07:07.820 so christ doesn't lose now for myself or or any agent of god trying to pray and and and loosen
01:07:18.460 somebody from a grip of the devil can we can we be inadequate to the job sure we can sure but at the
01:07:26.220 end of the day even that isn't a hindrance to christ christ himself doesn't need us to liberate
01:07:33.900 somebody or we can be very very imperfect very you know making mistakes and he can still win the day
01:07:40.460 it's really up to god that brings us full circle to something you said earlier and and we depicted a
01:07:47.900 version of this in our movie nefarious and the demon says that there needs to be a series of yeses
01:07:53.580 that possession is a process um he describes really almost a covenantal form of a relationship kind of a
01:08:00.220 a reverse conversion uh if you will uh and in in terms of a different uh and you know an aberrant
01:08:07.820 spiritual relationship that proceeds in degrees almost a reverse sanctification process uh within
01:08:14.220 a conversion and and you were making the point that you are the because we are living in a post
01:08:21.500 christian era now we are for the first time in the west in a post christian there was the pre-christian
01:08:26.380 west and it was the christian west and now we have the post christian west that that now i mean
01:08:30.940 something you're going to say yes to something spiritually right so you know um not to be an
01:08:36.060 evangelical and go all go all augustinian here but you're going to say yes to the city of god or the
01:08:41.020 city of man you're going to belong to one of these kingdoms and and so i if you're if you don't say yes to
01:08:46.380 the the kingdom of god then you're going to belong to the other to some varying degree
01:08:49.740 and and and because we are living in a post-christian society um we are now not just adopting pagan or
01:08:59.580 godless ideals we're inhabiting them and this is and they're inhabiting us and this is coming out and
01:09:05.100 what we are seeing in this wrestling for these fundamental definitions and foundations of society
01:09:10.940 that used to transcend politics and now they are the substance of it right right yeah exactly so so
01:09:18.140 things that that are are evil when we don't have a christian world view when we don't have grace
01:09:25.820 within us when we don't view reality through the lens of god things that are evil appear good to us
01:09:32.620 and and we embrace them and you know somebody you know here's a fine example you know somebody who i
01:09:39.180 think is an absolute utter genius who who i just i admire his his thinking in so many ways and that's
01:09:45.980 elon musk you know he's created an industry that is now changing the automobile industry but he's done
01:09:51.980 more than that you know he's embraced technology and he's pushed so many he's he's just redefined uh
01:09:59.580 the the technological and scientific realm of what is achievable and when you hear him talking about
01:10:06.140 just different things even outside his his industries you know when you hear him talk about free speech
01:10:13.020 and his desire his purchase of twitter in order to ensure free speech because he's aware that a free society
01:10:21.580 that a moral society has to have free speech to buttress that and so i mean all of it it just his natural
01:10:31.500 intelligence and his natural desire to be good that a a person who is good is going to be moral
01:10:38.460 and to be moral you need intelligence to have intelligence you need the free exchange of ideas
01:10:43.260 i mean he's just he's he's discovered this on his own so to speak however even he you know his company
01:10:52.460 tesla will pay for their employees to go out of state and get an abortion if they need it so here you have
01:10:58.940 somebody who in terms of natural intelligence is is a cutting edge but without the light of christ
01:11:08.540 without that grace to inform your conscience that wait a second what you're doing here is you're
01:11:14.460 paying for people to go kill their babies that this is the difference that a christian faith makes it
01:11:21.260 informs your intellect that when when somebody is in the realm of faith when they've embraced christ
01:11:29.180 christ informs your intellect and is operative there and and gives you a lens by which to view the world
01:11:35.820 so that even a natural intellect that is superlative is inadequate to keep somebody from committing evil
01:11:45.100 in this life i've got about five more minutes with you and i i would be remiss if i didn't ask a
01:11:51.660 couple of questions that i know the audience um is curious about number one have you ever been scared
01:11:58.940 the stuff that we see in movies you know wall walking heads turning projectile vomiting is that
01:12:06.140 real have you ever witnessed stuff like that sure and levitation and so forth and being struck you know
01:12:11.820 being hit violently i mean i i had on one occasion my skull was hit so hard i needed two surgeries to
01:12:18.780 repair it wow um but and i'm asked this question a lot and and i'll give you a truthful answer the
01:12:26.060 truthful answer is no i've never been scared now i i've never been scared because i know what fear is
01:12:33.500 fear is living apart from god so as a convert from atheism i know what it's like to not have christ
01:12:38.700 and once when i had christ when he came to me when when he gave me belief you know nothing
01:12:48.460 there is nothing that can keep me from him so the the the the devil doing his tricks the devil
01:12:57.020 displaying his his power which is a very limited power that the devil if he had the power to control me
01:13:04.060 to to defeat me to kill me to annihilate me he would have done so but he doesn't have that power
01:13:09.580 so in the end i there's no parlor trip parlor trick that that would make me afraid of him
01:13:16.700 my fear is offending christ my fear is being distant from christ that's what fear is
01:13:24.140 finally i teased this earlier you personally witnessed some of uh the antics um obstacles uh that we had to
01:13:33.260 put up with for several years to to get nefarious made to get it distributed um and you came to our
01:13:39.900 premiere in dallas uh and it was great to have you there and of course because it's the movie nefarious
01:13:45.580 we were having technical difficulties and literally not a day went by that there was not some form of
01:13:49.820 technical difficulty somewhere involving this film for like three years uh you experienced some of
01:13:55.900 this firsthand can you tell our audience that story sure yeah so you know the the
01:14:01.420 the at the premiere the the day before they were conducting interviews of various persons and myself
01:14:08.780 i wasn't directly involved in the in the making of the movie but when i was sent a screener i saw it
01:14:14.300 and i thought you know what gosh this is just so well done this depicts so well the mind of the devil
01:14:19.820 and and what he's about that that i promoted it i i thought the movie was something that
01:14:25.180 that it was really worth seeing so in in as a thanks um chuck and carrie the the the writers of
01:14:32.540 the movie producers they had me uh come to the premiere and i was part they they asked if i'd be
01:14:39.180 willing to give an interview during that session the day before the premiere and so i did and that
01:14:43.820 interview lasted a little bit over an hour and then i walked away i i went met a friend went out for
01:14:48.700 a walk and i my phone was still turned off from that interview and i i didn't realize it about two
01:14:55.100 and a half hours after the interview was done i looked i i turned on my phone and gosh there was
01:15:00.620 just a plethora of text messages uh the so the first one saying father you know our apologies
01:15:07.820 half of your interview didn't record the other half the files are have been corrupted and we can't open
01:15:12.540 them um a couple minutes later okay our our recording equipment isn't responding not sure
01:15:20.140 what's going on here would you be able to come back so we can redo this next message okay now the
01:15:25.980 lights are flickering on and off and we're hearing noises coming from uh the area of the room where the
01:15:30.860 couches are can you please come here and do prayers so uh i took a a taxi back to the hotel and uh you know
01:15:39.740 we we have in the catholic church we have a a ritual a procedure for such a thing uh we have a set of
01:15:45.820 prayers that we do for a place that where the devil is is displaying his power so it involves uh the use
01:15:53.020 of holy water so i made holy water in my hotel room and i walked down the hall to that that makeshift
01:16:00.140 studio and so i stood in the center of where all of the manifestations were occurring and i stood with
01:16:06.780 my back uh to the window of the room so we're up on the fifth floor so behind me is just the window and
01:16:12.460 then a five-story drop down onto the ground and i started the prayers and and just maybe one or two
01:16:19.340 sentences into them i could hear immediately behind me behind my behind my right ear the a chanting i and
01:16:28.300 i couldn't make out the words i couldn't tell you what language it was but there was nobody behind me
01:16:32.860 and it was not something i was hearing through the window it sounded like uh the sound was being
01:16:37.660 produced at five inches from me five inches five inches from my ear so i i just continued and there's
01:16:46.380 a line within that prayer within that exorcism of a place that towards the end and the line is bow down
01:16:55.660 of course you're addressing the demons here bow down to the holy and terrible name of jesus terrible
01:17:02.700 of course for the demons everything stopped so no more diabolical phenomenon no more lights flashing
01:17:11.500 no more non-responsive equipment everything came to an end and so i i said to carrie and chuck i said
01:17:17.980 look your premiere is tomorrow you're occupying three theaters why don't we just preempt things
01:17:24.540 and have me go and do the same thing in the theater uh and so that's exactly what we did before the movie
01:17:31.180 played and uh the event as you saw as you witnessed yeah it happened hitch free yeah in fact i came in
01:17:38.700 for my interview right after right after all this and everything worked perfectly fine so it's great
01:17:44.220 to see you again brother thank you very much for joining us and giving us so much of your time
01:17:47.820 appreciate you my pleasure that is father carlos martins uh we'll take a quick break come back and have
01:17:53.020 some thoughts on the conversation you just heard here in a moment join the conversation 888-727-BECK
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01:19:21.660 steve dace here filling in for glenn beck on the glenn beck program want to thank father carlos
01:19:25.980 martins from the exorcist files podcast for joining us this hour and i i mentioned uh to father carlos
01:19:31.740 that we have i can't years of issues making this movie nefarious that's available now uh streaming
01:19:37.820 now on uh itunes apple google youtube uh voodoo dish and salem now so if you want to see the movie
01:19:45.420 and you didn't get a chance to in theaters you want to see it again now so now is your chance uh
01:19:49.580 just just after the premiere that father carlos was at uh i went into the hospital uh with a deadly
01:19:57.260 MRSA bacterial infection that they had to painfully carve out of my armpit
01:20:03.020 i then went back into the hospital a week later because i had severe allergic reactions to the
01:20:09.740 antibiotics i had to take to kill said infection one of our producers uh chris jones was loading
01:20:16.460 his son judah into the back seat of his car in a parking lot and out of nowhere in this parking lot
01:20:22.460 a car came by and nearly totaled uh his car nearly killed him and his son uh tore the back door off of
01:20:29.820 the car and a day later one of our other producers john sullivan his car i think it was parked in front
01:20:35.900 of his home uh and was totaled by a nursing student in the middle in early in the morning who had fallen
01:20:42.860 asleep at the wheel these things all went down all went down
01:20:48.460 down right around the release of our film in a span of two weeks and that those are that's just a
01:20:56.140 a sampling of what went on uh during and still goes on uh during the making distribution uh of this of
01:21:03.500 this film what you guys think of the conversation we had with uh father father martens that man knows
01:21:09.420 how to keep it real uh steve in having me be on the show as a catholic and always talking about how
01:21:16.940 the importance if you're going to have differences with catholics be about have differences with what
01:21:21.820 they actually believe and not what you think they believe if you need to start somewhere start with
01:21:26.540 father martens because the beginning of the creed when we at easter when we welcome people into the
01:21:30.780 church we start we don't just recite it but we we respond to it and the first things do you reject
01:21:35.820 satan yes and all his works yes if you have questions about the catholic faith go start with father
01:21:42.700 martens because the man keeps it real what'd you think aaron i just thought the
01:21:46.700 the the conversation about sin specifically was was fascinating we as believers have power over
01:21:54.060 because of the the holy spirit but the consequences of sin can be terrifying and you're seeing that
01:21:59.180 play itself out in the broader culture that's the conversation we'll have with stephen string
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01:25:06.460 i'm steve dace alongside todd erzin and aaron mcintyre our day is just beginning if you are a blaze tv
01:25:13.180 subscriber you get us for five consecutive hours uh my show uh regular show still coming up here uh at the
01:25:19.820 top of uh the next hour and it's going to be a direct follow-up to the conversation we've been
01:25:24.620 having the last two hours or the final two hours of the glen beck program uh we're gonna we're gonna
01:25:29.420 take the 10 hot button culture war issues as selected by yours truly and we're gonna debate
01:25:36.940 them for two hours whether or not we are dealing with something that is truly demonic or we just
01:25:42.620 disagree with democrats is it just political right if you go to the if you go to the the the preface
01:25:48.780 that c.s lewis writes to the screw tape letters he says hey the biggest mistake we make on one hand
01:25:52.940 is either giving the devil way too much credit or acting as if he's not there at all right so are we
01:25:58.140 just having political disagreements on the right with people who just disagree with us right we often
01:26:03.580 mock them for saying to us every time we disagree they disagree we must be a russian hacker uh we must
01:26:09.020 be a russian agent we must be hitler literally mussolini let's not return that necessarily all
01:26:14.940 right let's love our neighbors who live ourselves sometimes people of you know um of integrity and
01:26:20.220 and good conscience just can disagree and do so vehemently so are we just disagreeing vehemently
01:26:25.900 politically or is there something else at play here and so we'll discuss that as it relates to
01:26:31.820 specific issues when my show begins right after i get done doing glenn's show here uh about an hour
01:26:38.380 from now but we want to welcome to the show now steven strang uh he is with charisma magazine and
01:26:44.380 it's uh it's a pleasure steven to have you with us here on the show brother how are you i'm doing
01:26:49.580 great thanks for inviting me you bet and we have been talking about whether there is there's a lot
01:26:57.980 that we are seeing in our culture today we're frankly we're seeing more than we've ever seen uh
01:27:03.020 uh for both good and bad in our culture today but is there more than meets the eye and i got to know
01:27:09.580 uh two individuals through the making and the promotion of nefarious father carlos martins who
01:27:14.060 was with us last hour uh and steven strang from charisma magazine as well and both of you guys
01:27:19.820 um we're very vocal in your support of our film and what you thought it did to shine a light
01:27:25.260 on what is going on uh with uh the darkness and its influence in the culture so so steven let me let me
01:27:31.500 start there point blank do you believe american culture right now is under some form of direct
01:27:40.460 demonic influence absolutely i do and there's a lot of ways that we can dive into that i actually do it
01:27:47.820 in my book spirit led living in an upside down world i think the reason the world is upside down is
01:27:54.780 because of demonic influence and i'll just tell you that at charisma media we went all in to push
01:28:03.420 nefarious and even this week i had several occasions in personal conversations to tell people
01:28:10.140 you need to go see that movie it's on salem and i'll just start by um you know telling everybody they
01:28:16.540 need to see it because you see that you can see with your own eyes what happens with a demoniac now it is
01:28:23.820 one poor soul but those demons uh tell us what their real agenda is which is a lot like screw tape
01:28:33.100 letters which you just uh mentioned but demonic activity has gone back to the beginning of time
01:28:40.860 and it has only been curbed in a lot of ways because of christianity i mean there was paganism rampant
01:28:48.940 in the roman empire in the greek empire in israel itself and that was exercised
01:28:56.940 by the the creation the development of the early church the early christian church it's gone it is
01:29:04.860 gone there is nobody who goes to a zeus temple anymore however we believe i believe that the spirits that
01:29:13.900 were around uh are coming back with a vengeance and this is the topic of uh rabbi jonathan kahn's latest
01:29:22.780 book called the return of the gods small g he is believing that what we're seeing is paganism paganism
01:29:32.380 and demons are the kind of the same thing different terminologies and he was on glenn beck
01:29:38.780 uh i think it was on good friday and uh that book just went crazy because it opened people's eyes
01:29:47.180 he talks about how what we're seeing is a return of paganism in our culture now paganism is around the
01:29:54.380 world there are some really bad places they don't tend to affect you in iowa or me in florida you know
01:30:01.020 we're more aware of what's happening in our lives but in our culture which has basically been a judeo
01:30:07.500 christian culture even if people have not really served god in the way the bible says but it goes
01:30:13.820 all the way back to our uh early immigrants and then our founding fathers and down through history
01:30:19.740 right up to the current time and there's still a lot a lot of of god-fearing people who believe in
01:30:27.660 the power of the holy spirit and all this kind of stuff but it seems that the other side is becoming
01:30:33.260 more and more and more brazen and trying to you know uh stop our religious freedoms and everything
01:30:40.780 else but of course we're not talking about that it's like why do people act the way they do if you
01:30:45.980 can understand demons and demonic activities the bible i'm a christian journalist so i'll quote the bible
01:30:52.220 the bible says we wrestle not against flesh and blood this is not against people but it's against
01:30:56.940 principalities and powers and let me make this comment and i'll turn it back to you uh you know
01:31:03.340 we all understand the the natural realm that's what we exist in every single day of our lives but i
01:31:09.740 believe that the spiritual realm which we don't see is actually more real because that's the realm that
01:31:15.260 will continue even after we're long gone but it's something that people don't understand it's like trying
01:31:21.660 to understand electricity or the internet we kind of see what it does we sort of know how to use it
01:31:28.300 but we do not understand it and we don't understand the spiritual realm although the bible gives us
01:31:35.180 guidelines and there are people with spiritual insight we call them gifts of the spirit who have
01:31:40.140 discernment who can actually minister to people who are affected by the demonic now that's kind of a
01:31:46.700 different discussion hopefully we'll get to it actually my book delves into that a little bit
01:31:51.420 more but it uh our culture and these people that are just crazy are demonized they just are and they
01:32:01.500 could call us crazy or whatever i'm saying they're demonized now i'm not saying specific people i'm
01:32:06.060 talking about groups of people some of the stuff that's done they're just crazy it's almost like in the
01:32:12.940 new testament where right the demoniac yeah have you come to persecute us before the appointed time
01:32:18.780 son of man kind of stuff yes exactly and then they then the demons went into pigs and they ran over
01:32:23.900 the cliff and there were people that were chained in in cemeteries and they wouldn't even wear clothes
01:32:29.820 and all that kind of stuff you know what we don't see those examples called pride fest now things
01:32:34.860 like that are happening i want to relay to you a conversation that i had with tucker carlson last summer
01:32:42.060 and get your reaction to it and he came uh i think uh pound for pound the most impactful
01:32:49.420 um member of the media commentarian uh that i have seen in my time working in media and that's why
01:32:57.020 they had to get rid of him and he came to iowa for i believe even more than that i believe in a way he's
01:33:02.140 prophetic to our culture well you're going to certainly think that when i pass this along to you
01:33:05.820 uh he came to iowa for an event we did with him last summer and we got to have a private dinner with
01:33:10.780 him and we asked him hey what happened to the the the bow tied chipper libertarian uh from his msnbc
01:33:20.380 and cnn days they used to do shows with his buddy rachel maddow and frankly thought people like us
01:33:25.100 were the reasons republicans could never win elections and were driving the party too far to
01:33:29.100 the right i mean now you are the ultimate culture warrior um we don't think fox probably had any idea
01:33:36.140 that you were going to do the kind of show that you're now doing when they hired you um what
01:33:40.780 happened what what changed your thinking and he talked about his wife is very evangelical and he's
01:33:46.140 kind of you know um quasi you know theistic and religious he grew up in a republican home uh his
01:33:52.540 dad was a republican uh an activist in in georgetown and uh all of his friends were people that worked in
01:33:59.180 politics for republicans and democrats and they all had a lot of they they trick-or-treated together
01:34:03.900 christmas together thanksgiving together party together and he he thought you know i could see
01:34:08.780 why someone who uh has a different view of of you know what medicare and medicaid ought to do for
01:34:14.060 people than me i i don't think that makes you a terrible person i can see why someone would have
01:34:18.140 those viewpoints and we just disagree he said though my wife had been warning me for the last few years
01:34:22.780 that things have gotten increasingly darker and something else is going on and he said for the first
01:34:27.180 time in my career there are things that we are doing politically that just no one benefits from
01:34:32.700 like the people benefit from medicare and medicaid we can debate whether those are the best
01:34:36.700 ways to help the people that are getting that benefit but they are benefiting from it no one is
01:34:41.900 benefited benefiting from let's castrate 12 year old boys no one is benefiting from let's chest
01:34:47.100 spine uh you know 13 year old girls no one is benefiting from let's put grown men in women's
01:34:52.700 locker rooms no one's benefiting from this stuff and he said i finally you know i had to finally admit
01:34:57.340 to my wife and frankly to people like you guys yeah that that when we start doing things politically
01:35:03.020 that there is no obvious human benefit to he said steven the only conclusion i could come to
01:35:08.060 is that there must be some spiritual component here there's some other darkness going on here
01:35:13.500 i've got about a couple about about a minute and a half give me your reaction to that well you're
01:35:18.620 absolutely right and the use of word darkness is a very appropriate word and people who watch your
01:35:24.940 movie notice how i pushed it again uh there is definitely a darkness you can see it you can feel
01:35:31.180 it you feel sorry for this poor helpless person that's possessed by this demon and the demon even
01:35:39.100 wanted him to be electrocuted so he would suffer more and this is what we're seeing in our culture but
01:35:45.100 uh tucker carlson is absolutely right there's a darkness but there was a darkness with hitler
01:35:51.340 with stalin even with the roman empire you know it's been throughout history but we've been holding
01:35:56.700 it back the the christianity in a way and people of moral values have been holding it back but it's
01:36:04.380 coming with a vengeance and i think it's even more sinister than what you just articulated but we have
01:36:11.980 got to stand up to it and we've got to understand how we we can't just complain about the darkness
01:36:17.420 we've got to light a light and what happens with light the darkness disappears and the darker it is
01:36:23.980 the smaller the light will make a difference uh because it seems like it's an uphill battle at least
01:36:30.380 it seems like that to me and we cover this every single day uh on charisma media our website and the
01:36:36.220 other things that we do and so i live in this world and my book spirit led living in a upside down world
01:36:42.380 was my attempt to try to uh provide some answers and also to help people put this in perspective
01:36:49.180 because a lot of people maybe even most people understand that something is seriously wrong with
01:36:56.140 our country and they don't know what it is tucker carlson is one of the ones that gets it
01:37:02.060 we'll come back more with steven strang i want to talk about specific issue there's one specific
01:37:10.060 issue happening right now that to me i think perfectly makes the case what we're dealing
01:37:14.700 with here is not just mere even radical political division or disagreement but something metaphysical
01:37:20.860 we'll talk about that more here with steven strang from charisma magazine in just a moment
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01:38:37.900 all right back here on the glenn beck program steven strang from charisma magazine is our guest his new
01:38:43.500 book spirit led living in an upside down world you can check that out as well um and so uh steven when
01:38:49.260 i was doing publicity for the theatrical release of our movie nefarious um and did a lot of interviews
01:38:54.700 for that a a question that i got very often was give me an example can you give us an example of of
01:39:01.260 something we are confronting in the culture an issue that you think has no political benefit or basis
01:39:07.020 that is just purely of demonic influence and the issue that i pointed out that is um uh is the trans
01:39:15.340 issue and here's why human sin in in in its essence is a is a defiance of god's will all right but in
01:39:25.740 practicum what we think we are doing uh is is actually exploiting the talents abilities drives desires impulses
01:39:35.740 that god puts in us breaking free of the guard rails and the guidance that he puts around such
01:39:41.100 things uh and and we think we are actually now maximizing them um i mean for example if sex within
01:39:48.140 marriage is great then more sex outside of marriage with more people could only be better uh and so we
01:39:53.100 break free of those guard rails and uh and that ends up usually being a monkey paw story and blows up in
01:39:58.700 our own faces sin in practicum is an exploitation of the desires drives impulses uh that god places
01:40:06.540 within us what you see with things like the trans issue is a denial of those things we we no longer
01:40:13.740 say i want to exploit the the drive that god put within me to mate with the other gender we we now deny
01:40:20.940 that god put that drive in me at all we now that we now deny that god made me male or female at all
01:40:26.540 uh or as we like to say on my show i think aaron you put it thusly that sin is a perversion of reality
01:40:32.700 with the with things like what we're doing now nihilistically with things like the trans issue
01:40:36.700 is a rejection of that reality uh and and to me there's no benefit there i mean there is i can see
01:40:44.940 why you'd be tempted to sin sexually um because of the pleasure you would get from it before the the
01:40:50.380 cost benefit would start going against you there is no benefit to having my male genitals removed and
01:40:56.060 just having an empty void placed between my legs via a a very uh disgusting and disturbing surgery
01:41:03.180 that is to me that goes beyond our depravity as as sinners to now we are seeking to those are
01:41:10.620 things that we do that work against even our own desires and that to me is demonic in nature nihilistic
01:41:17.100 in nature that's an example of what i'm talking about another one i would use is um you know when i
01:41:22.300 when i was growing up in the 80s the movie wall street gordon gecko greed is good so materialism for
01:41:27.580 materialism's sake the the the instinct god gives in us for significance and achievement to just break
01:41:33.980 free of any of any godly guidance there and just make it purely materialistic and ego-driven in nature
01:41:40.220 that is sin now we don't take any risks now we don't show any ingenuity any initiative at all now i
01:41:47.420 want to be a ward of the state now i want a king again that's a denial of the instincts and behaviors
01:41:52.540 that that god instilled in me i think when we get to when we're exploitive i think that is sin
01:41:58.380 when we're nihilistic i think that is demonic and more of the stuff that we're seeing in our culture war
01:42:03.900 today is not is not merely exploitive it is transcended into nihilistic what are your thoughts
01:42:09.900 on that in about two minutes boy we yeah in two minutes we can talk for two hours about it
01:42:15.500 you know you make a lot of sense but let me let me say this you talk about money you know say money is
01:42:22.140 good it helps us uh take care of our families and so forth but just getting more and more money by
01:42:28.940 robbing a bank or burglarizing somebody's home is not good it's wrong and there are places you know
01:42:35.900 where crime is rampant where this happens all the time but our culture cannot exist with that so there
01:42:41.580 are guards you call them guardrails there's also consequences in sexuality it's it's kind of the
01:42:48.460 same thing and you talk about the trans movement but i saw a sign on the media somebody was protesting
01:42:55.980 what's going on at target and the sign said uh don't make gay boys think they're girls and i don't
01:43:06.460 i hadn't really thought about it but i thought yes all the little boys that want to be girls they
01:43:12.300 are gay at some level we're talking about a gay issue and uh if you know anything about it and
01:43:20.700 thankfully i don't live in that world but there are a lot of um uh you know what do you call it um i
01:43:27.900 don't even know you can't remember the word of things that turn people on and it just happens
01:43:33.740 that for a lot of people being the other sex is stimulating to them in some way uh in my book i go
01:43:42.140 into this and some and i did some research and about 75 of the men who say they're trans women really
01:43:49.180 never do the that surgery that you described instead we would use to call them transvestites
01:43:54.220 exactly that's the point that riley gains the championship uh swimmer has been making and
01:43:58.540 trying to bring that word back more with steven strang here in a moment
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01:45:42.380 all right steve dace back here yet again on the glennbeck radio program
01:45:46.540 back with steven strang of charisma magazine and i asked steven during the break so this isn't my
01:45:53.420 fault okay i asked him during the break what we should talk about he said i really think we should
01:45:57.420 talk about your movie more and i man i want to tell you i i guys we were just wrestling with it a minute
01:46:01.740 ago and i was like i don't know i mean i don't the movie's out on streaming right now i don't know that
01:46:06.220 we should be using a gigantor level of platform to you know be promoting it or anything of that nature
01:46:12.620 lest we come across as shills but since this obvious man of god i clearly twisted my arm and
01:46:19.660 and and humbly but yet persistently suggested that we should discuss it more i am a victim
01:46:26.620 and i will just follow the maddening crowd so therefore mr also an objective journalist there
01:46:32.540 you go even that that's true now now see i built you up and then you dropped the journalist and you
01:46:37.100 just cut yourself down we'll overlook that part of it okay all right but but since you brought it
01:46:41.420 up in all seriousness let's tie nefarious into this and and when we when we made the movie we had no
01:46:48.220 idea we'd get the movie finished we had no idea we get the movie distributed we had no idea when the
01:46:52.940 movie was going to come out let alone that it would come out at almost the exact maybe the exact right
01:46:59.340 time given what is happening in the culture right now when you saw the film for the first time
01:47:05.580 what's what what what stood out to you and how did it tie into what you see happening in the country
01:47:11.260 right now well first of all i i saw a screener and i did it frankly as a favor you know i mean people
01:47:18.300 send me stuff all the time and i thought you know i need to see it i was blown away i done a little
01:47:24.540 bit of research and found out that your book nefarious actually did not do very well for a
01:47:29.580 variety of reasons you're right it's the right thing at the right time it is not preachy it is
01:47:34.540 not really a christian a movie in the normal way that we would see it like a billy graham movie or
01:47:39.980 something but man you hit abortion um euthanasia uh the death penalty you hit all of that stuff it's evil
01:47:51.660 it's evil and um you use this demoniac to articulate it very very well i thought glenn beck did a great
01:48:01.420 job on it and i complimented him when i talked to him and he said well of course i did i was playing
01:48:06.380 myself but it's a great movie people need to see it now john ramirez who was in satanism and now he's
01:48:13.900 got a powerful ministry and we've done several of his books and i write about him in my book uh spirit
01:48:19.980 led living in an upside down world i i was able to get him a screener i did this to a lot of people
01:48:26.460 you'll remember that and he told me he said i can tell christians did this and i said what do you mean
01:48:31.180 he said because the demons don't swear he said demons always swear and i just thought that was
01:48:36.540 kind of an interesting thing it's powerful it's it's realistic uh people need to see it and what
01:48:43.580 you're doing is you're you're using your platform to get this in the uh before the public so that
01:48:51.740 people can debate it and i think it was brilliant and i hope that many many more people see it i know
01:48:58.140 it was a success and when you're in the business that's important i get it i'm a publisher but
01:49:03.580 something is happening spiritually eyes are being opened there was another movie very very different
01:49:08.220 called out in jesus name it was a fathom event and it was so successful they kept having it
01:49:13.180 they had public uh deliverance meetings in the theaters after it and uh alexander beghani one of
01:49:23.180 our own authors uh who did secrets of deliverance it was kind of a minor book if i can say that uh but
01:49:31.340 these people several pastors greg lock and some others discovered it and they're they're setting
01:49:36.940 people free you know a lot of the uh everybody's got problems and there's different things sometimes
01:49:43.180 they're psychological sometimes there are health issues but you know there are things there are
01:49:47.820 addictions there are other things that happen in people's lives and a lot of times it's a spiritual
01:49:52.460 base some of them are actually demons that need to be expelled in jesus name and there are some
01:49:59.900 uh people you can research it online who actually minister in this way there is so much demonic
01:50:06.380 activity online but at least god is raising up a standard and uh and if you need if somebody needs
01:50:13.820 deliverance in fact you can watch that movie they need to be set free they need to and uh you know
01:50:20.540 forgive me for being so strong but i believe that however a lot of things that believers suffer
01:50:26.620 and others maybe aren't demonic but it's what the apostle paul calls strongholds you can cast out a
01:50:35.100 demon you cannot cast out a stronghold you pull down strongholds and a lot of addictions
01:50:41.980 whether it's addiction to alcohol or even things like offense and unforgiveness and insecurity and all of
01:50:50.220 those kinds of things sexual addictions are almost always uh demonic or a very very strong stronghold where
01:50:59.500 people have let in these things but you know what the say uh the bible says satan comes to steal kill
01:51:07.260 and destroy but jesus came to give life and to give it more abundantly and you can be set free i talk about
01:51:12.620 this i have a whole chapter on deliverance in the in this book and i believe that if you're led by the
01:51:18.060 the spirit of god and you're going to have a happy fulfilling life and you're going to have power in
01:51:23.580 your life you've got to be free of these demonic influences that we've been talking about and with
01:51:29.900 the culture the way it is there's just you know they're just kind of coming at us all the time but
01:51:35.820 with the holy spirit we can i believe that we can get a hedge of protection around us we can get set
01:51:41.340 free of these things and there's help for people and if people don't get anything more from this
01:51:46.620 short interview i hope that they understand that it doesn't matter what they hear the bible says
01:51:52.620 they can be free who the sun sets free is free indeed that's the scripture it's true the word of
01:51:59.660 god is true i don't care what msnbc uh says in fact allison camarado who's over on cnn was interviewing
01:52:08.060 me about one of my books on donald trump and and she's debating me and she's saying doesn't your bible
01:52:15.100 say so and so and i said allison i'm so glad you're quoting the bible and we went on and i had a
01:52:20.540 wonderful opportunity to actually share the gospel in that setting but our culture says that stuff's
01:52:27.180 good traditional values which include the bible and everything else is bad it's upside down i mean just
01:52:34.380 this week we found out that in conservative utah they're banning the bible from a library but at the
01:52:41.340 same library you can get all kinds of other weird things but they say the bible's a hate book it's
01:52:47.420 like anything they don't agree with they say is hey no the bible is about love the love of god that he
01:52:54.140 would redeem mankind through jesus christ and then send us the holy spirit so that we have power we have
01:53:01.020 power in our lives everything about the holy spirit is about power and in the case we've been talking
01:53:07.100 about today is power over demonic influence and jonathan conan in his book and i'll just put in a
01:53:14.460 plug for his new book which is called the josiah manifesto we only announced it last week i finished
01:53:20.220 reading it two days ago it he he says that the way that we turn things around is through the power of the
01:53:27.420 holy spirit and what he says in this wonderful book and i'm not going to say anything more about it
01:53:33.660 is going to come out around labor day and is that the power of the holy spirit in fact i sent him
01:53:41.020 an email i said jonathan this section of the book which he talks about in the book of joel the prophet
01:53:48.620 from the old testament where he says in the last days god will pour out my spirit upon all flesh and
01:53:54.300 your sons and daughters will prophesy and and so forth and uh i just i'm trying to get this message out
01:54:01.580 steve i'm trying and i appreciate you helping me do it that there is a way to live in the spirit
01:54:07.900 in this upside down world we have power it's not our power we're human beings if anything we sometimes
01:54:14.300 we just feel like throwing up our hands and giving up but we don't need to the power of the holy spirit
01:54:20.300 is there god has a plan for man and and then the ancient prophet said in the last days and even as
01:54:27.740 things get worse and worse and worse we believe that god is through the power of the holy spirit
01:54:33.500 that people are going to turn to god that's the only way we're going to be able to turn things around
01:54:38.620 and forgive me if i sound like i'm a preacher i've never been a preacher but i believe this to the core
01:54:43.740 of my being that's why i'm in christian journalism and why i wrote this book and i just hope that it helps
01:54:49.900 people um because we've got to do something each of us have to do our own way our own thing you're doing
01:54:56.860 your thing this book and the different things we do at charisma media are my thing and each of us
01:55:02.540 in fact jonathan kahn makes that point in uh josiah the josiah manifesto that that's how we're going to
01:55:09.500 turn things around is each of us doing something and working together to in a lot of cases we have to
01:55:17.420 go around the institutions we have to come up with alternative media we've got to maybe even do things
01:55:23.660 underground i mean it's kind of scary what's happening we saw during the covid how quickly
01:55:28.460 governments wanted to shut down the church and now we see that libraries in utah are wanting to
01:55:34.140 ban the bible i mean this sounds like europe in 1600 when they burned bible translators i mean there's
01:55:42.540 some it's something very very evil but thank god we know who wins in the end amen that's a great place
01:55:51.180 to end it brother that was that was well done all right it is uh good to have you on the show good
01:55:55.420 to see it thank you very much for the kind words uh for nefarious it it really meant a lot to me and
01:56:00.620 to everybody on our production team and gave us a lot of confidence that uh that we had stuck the
01:56:05.420 landing steven so thank you very much and god bless you all right take care thank you god bless you i
01:56:10.300 will come back and uh we'll have some parting thoughts and kind of wrap up the conversation and set
01:56:14.620 the stage for the conversation to come because we've still got two more hours of this coming your way
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01:57:46.060 so we're wrapping things up here today on the glenn beck radio program we still have two more hours to
01:57:50.780 go on the steve day show that's our normal show here on blaze tv if you're a blaze tv subscriber stick
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01:58:02.300 or subscribe to our podcast just look for steve dace d-e-a-c-e steve day show on itunes spotify
01:58:10.060 uh stitcher uh etc you'll find us there and what we're going to do is a direct follow-up to what
01:58:17.980 you've heard for the last two hours we're going to now we heard from father carlos martins
01:58:22.060 uh a certified exorcist who has done spiritual warfare on a one-on-one level uh you heard from
01:58:29.740 steven strang uh from charisma magazine who has been writing about uh culture war issues and and and
01:58:35.900 and broad spiritual issues in the culture um for for many decades as well and so now we're going to take
01:58:42.940 what we heard from these two christian leaders and we're going to apply it directly to the main issues
01:58:50.220 confronting us domestically in the united states today and we're going to talk about whether we
01:58:55.420 think the issue behind said issue is demonic or is it just we disagree with democrats and that's
01:59:02.060 the conversation that we're going to have coming up for the next two hours just to tease that but
01:59:06.620 let's look back on the conversation that we just had gentlemen and i i'm sure parts of it sound weird
01:59:11.740 parts of it sounds weird to me i i don't i don't come out of a catholic tradition like todd does i don't
01:59:16.940 come out of a charismatic protestant tradition necessarily um i i'm just a guy that believes
01:59:22.780 the bible and jesus made it very clear to to understand the signs of the times and i'm looking
01:59:27.900 at the signs of the times in which we're living in and so that's how you have um you know a movie like
01:59:33.980 nefarious made uh by a couple of catholics uh and an evangelical okay um and starring the guy who
01:59:41.900 did boondock saints sean patrick flannery all right all of us have something in common uh even
01:59:47.580 though there are areas of disagreement amongst us what do we all have in common we all sean will
01:59:51.820 tell you this is the most important movie he's ever done we all sense something is very very wrong
02:00:00.140 and and and and where we're going is coming from a very very wrong place and that's what we wanted to
02:00:06.460 address here today on the glenn beck radio program so gentlemen your thoughts well as i digest
02:00:11.740 what steven had to say is he and he kept repeating it you know it's we have to unleash
02:00:18.140 the holy spirit corporately in this upside down world well one body many parts so it's incumbent on
02:00:26.540 us as christians how how do we do that well i think this starts off i've talked a lot on our show about
02:00:34.060 the addiction uh of men of the west uh to comfort and the simple truth of the matter is that just within
02:00:41.180 members of the church there's way too many people who start their day and they talk about their
02:00:46.380 plans steve's plans todd's plans aaron's plans they don't talk about god's plans they don't talk about
02:00:52.060 the fact that it is god's day and not theirs i i think until we alter that psychology we can't even
02:00:58.780 get to step two yeah get comfortable getting uncomfortable that's the name of the game that's
02:01:04.540 really the bottom line that's the biggest hurdle i think so many people especially the men of the
02:01:10.060 west face on on a day-to-day basis it's the unwillingness to get uncomfortable spiritually
02:01:17.820 or temporally spiritually hey i need to smash some of my own idols all of us all three of us in this room
02:01:25.820 probably to some degree need to do that everybody listening needs to do that once you've smashed those
02:01:32.220 idols then what's next go start smashing other idols as well that requires confrontation it requires
02:01:40.300 a willingness a willingness to do what needs to be done and fortunately in our country we are we are on
02:01:48.380 the brink what needs to be done is a lot more confrontation politically in your communities and
02:01:56.300 using whatever peaceful mechanism we have in order to change things to more align with god's design
02:02:04.380 that's the name of the game but it starts with the willingness to get comfortable being uncomfortable
02:02:11.420 conversations like we had here today are not commonplace in our country they used to be in
02:02:15.660 an era's past so they kind of sound peculiar or odd to us that's that's one of the that's one of the
02:02:22.620 big problems is that it sounds peculiar and odd to us when these used to happen very commonly
02:02:28.860 so i hope that you enjoyed it i hope you stick around and listen to us continue on here on blaze
02:02:33.260 tv on the steve day show for the rest of you john 3 17.