The Golden One - June 12, 2023


Ancient Greek Physique Ideals. Modern Bodybuilding vs the Antique Soldier's Physique

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This is not a response to the initial thread by the reddit historian, I m just sharing some insights with you, my dear audience. I m checking in with a few thoughts regarding ancient Greek physique ideals, and why you shouldn t confuse a nice natural physique and a nice athletic physique.

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00:00:00.000 absolutely aesthetic physique if I may be so bold greetings my esteemed subscribing
00:00:09.480 dance I'm checking in with a few thoughts regarding ancient Greek physique ideals now
00:00:15.780 I saw our thread on Twitter that sparked our controversy so I just thought to chime in with
00:00:22.800 my own take on the matter now this is not a response to the initial thread by the reddit
00:00:29.340 historian I'm just sharing some insights with you my dear audience now first thing to keep in
00:00:35.880 mind and this is especially important for guys who haven't been in the gym to know and that is
00:00:42.580 you have to make a difference between different types of physiques so you have on one side you
00:00:48.040 have the physique of Gerard Butler in 300 he plays Leonidas and this has always been my own physique
00:00:56.060 ideal this has always been what I have strived for personally this is a natural physique and
00:01:01.340 athletic physique this is definitely what an ancient Greek soldier could have looked like
00:01:06.820 now something to keep in mind that the the style the aesthetic of 300 the film it looks a bit
00:01:13.540 special so to speak so they do of course use shadows and the light in a certain way to
00:01:21.220 create a certain look so if you would see Leonidas in that case without those shadows and light
00:01:27.940 he would have looked more natural so to speak so it's still a natural physique it's definitely what
00:01:33.760 they could have looked like and this is a physique that looks great and is strong and is also durable
00:01:39.700 now you can contrast this with a modern bodybuilder now this is of course a result of sure hard training
00:01:48.080 but ultimately also a rigorous medication regimen so when we're talking about a heroic aesthetic strong
00:01:58.960 physique we're not talking about a modern bodybuilder and of course yes these modern bodybuilders they
00:02:05.440 wouldn't be able to do the soldiering activities of the ancient Greeks so my main point to anyone who
00:02:13.040 doesn't train it's a huge difference between uh an athletic physique such as the one Gerard Butler
00:02:20.640 portrays in 300 and a modern bodybuilder and when we're saying that the ancient Greeks were jacked when
00:02:27.120 we're looking at ancient statues we are thinking about the more athletic natural look we're not talking about
00:02:34.240 the the bodybuilding look so important distinction but for guys who haven't been in the gym it's um very
00:02:41.520 important to point out so these they are not the same now i thought to share my own experiences from
00:02:48.880 my nominally mandatory year in the swedish army so you do need a core strength to begin with you need to
00:02:57.040 be decently muscled to be able to carry your backpack your ammunition and your weapon especially if you have
00:03:04.080 a heavier weapon system as the fn mag 58 which i had and yeah you had to have a certain level of
00:03:10.800 strength to be able to handle it and then of course also carrying all of that equipment when you have to
00:03:17.600 march through a forest you have to run up a hill it takes a lot of strength especially in your back
00:03:22.800 your legs your core uh so perhaps not the the aesthetic of someone with massive arms and you know no legs
00:03:30.080 and stuff but an athletic physique something you would see on the statues of um of an ancient greek
00:03:35.840 so i would say that if you train for the army do have a decent muscle mass to begin with so that you
00:03:42.400 can carry your stuff because it's quite hard in um when you have to carry it for a long time then of
00:03:48.400 course also perhaps the main thing that you have to train your cardio you have to be prepared for
00:03:53.840 this long endurance marches where both come into play both strength and endurance and mental toughness
00:04:02.080 and everything like that so yes a good soldier does not look like a modern bodybuilder as i just
00:04:08.080 showed but he could look similar to an ancient greek statue and keep in mind also that you know your
00:04:14.000 daily form your daily shape it looks different due to a wide variety of reasons sometimes you look
00:04:20.160 more shredded sometimes you look a bit more bloated having a bit of extra fat can be good also so you
00:04:26.640 have some extra energy in the field now for reference to use another personal example i have a very good
00:04:33.360 friend shout out william he is actually an elite soldier and he could definitely have starred with the
00:04:40.960 the spartans in the 300 film so he is very strong muscular and he also runs marathons so i would say
00:04:47.040 he is a good combination of you know having enough muscle mass to be able to carry all of this um to
00:04:53.120 be able to carry all of this equipment to be able to carry a wounded comrade on your back and at the
00:04:57.760 same time you have cardio so you can just push through for four days on end now lastly if we do want to
00:05:05.520 know what the um the ideals were back in the day back in good old ancient greece we can simply look at
00:05:12.240 their statues now anyway my main point with this video is that there is a difference between a nice
00:05:18.560 natural athletic physique and a modern pro bodybuilder so you shouldn't confuse the two and
00:05:25.840 in my humble opinion the natural athletic physique which i believe that the ancient greek hoplites could
00:05:33.600 very well have looked like that is the the ultimate physique the ancient greeks knew about aesthetics 0.99
00:05:40.400 and physical perfection no thank you for watching do check out all the links in the description box
00:05:45.840 below and admire my physique always uh the most important part of any video i make anyway thanks for
00:05:53.760 watching xx o boom