The Great America Show - February 14, 2024


ALEX JONES: TWO MINUTES TO MIDNIGHT


Episode Stats

Length

36 minutes

Words per Minute

171.79712

Word Count

6,273

Sentence Count

488

Hate Speech Sentences

14


Summary

Alex Jones joins Lou Dobbs on the Great America Show to talk about what it's like to be a conservative pundit in the late 80's and early 90's. Alex Jones has been a conservative voice in the media for a long time. He is now a full-time podcaster and host of the Alex Jones Show on the radio show Alex Jones Radio.


Transcript

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00:01:14.940 Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs and welcome to The Great America Show. Thanks for being
00:01:22.820 with us. It turns out Joe Biden isn't the only Marxist im in D.C. who is, well, getting
00:01:29.160 a little slower. Take a listen to Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer talking to the American
00:01:35.200 people with a straight face and telling them Joe Biden's mental acuity is great and any suggestion
00:01:40.960 otherwise is right-wing propaganda. I talk to President Biden, you know, regularly or sometimes
00:01:48.840 several times in a week or usually several times in a week. His mental acuity is great. It's fine.
00:01:55.680 It's as good as it's been over the years. I've been speaking to him for 30 years since we worked on the
00:02:00.580 Brady Bill in the assault weapons ban when I was a young congressman. And he's fine. All this right-wing
00:02:11.000 propaganda that his mental acuity is declined is wrong. He's going to win the election because he
00:02:16.460 has a great record, because more and more Americans are seeing that record.
00:02:22.300 If Schumer seriously believes this president isn't demented and impaired, he might be right there
00:02:27.720 with him. Don't you think? Our guest today is Alex Jones, the Alex Jones. And Alex, it's always
00:02:34.560 great to see you. It's been a long while, but we're delighted to have you here and to have a chance
00:02:39.460 to have a little talk about what in the world is going on in America. Well, I'm glad you raised that
00:02:47.540 up front because you sent me a few questions, but you didn't add that one. And that's what I was going
00:02:51.300 to say. What is it like when you had the top show in the English-speaking world? We're not trying to be
00:02:59.100 first place here, but a bigger show than Tucker had on Fox. When you were on CNN reaching 10 million
00:03:04.460 people a day conservatively predicting 20 years ago, 18 years ago, everything that's happened. So our job is
00:03:14.340 much easier as patriots that are anti-globalist. I mean, you pioneered on mainstream media, the first
00:03:20.280 person to ever break all this. So I was going to ask you when you asked me questions, what is it
00:03:24.880 like now to now be here when Elon Musk and Joe Rogan and Tucker Carlson all sound just like you did
00:03:31.560 20-something years ago? Well, it sounds like music to me because I didn't hear any like voices like
00:03:40.020 mine. Well, I would reserve that. You were amazing throughout your career. You started as a skeptic of
00:03:48.740 all that is establishment. And my hat's off to you. But I was out in the wilderness. I mean,
00:03:55.800 I was out in the wilderness. I was a bush leaguer when I was doing it. You charged right on. And it
00:04:01.420 showed that freedom is popular. You have the number one show, as I said, covering freedom,
00:04:06.480 just like all the top shows now are populist, anti-globalist. So I think that's a very positive
00:04:12.660 thing about the awakening that we've reached. I've been a populist all along. I've always said,
00:04:17.840 you know, populist, they say it like it's a dirty word. In my view, it means people.
00:04:23.920 And if you're not for the people of this country, who the hell are you for? So if you don't call
00:04:29.420 yourself a populist, I want you to say exactly what you are, what you do, because you sound like
00:04:34.640 an enemy of this great republic. And I felt that way from the outset, as you suggest. And I know
00:04:41.500 this, that there are enough voices. You were talking about Tucker and everyone out there.
00:04:47.440 I am so delighted to have people with strong and bright principled voices out talking about what
00:04:55.260 matters to this country. It's a joy to me to watch it, to still be part of it. I'm thrilled to be still
00:05:02.140 in the arena fighting. You know, I may not land as many punches, but I sure do. Well, I guess I'd
00:05:07.980 land a few, but it's harder to take them. I'll put it that way. Go ahead, Alex. Go ahead.
00:05:15.140 No, I just know that I'm coming on with you, but I want to talk about you, because when I look at
00:05:19.300 who in the last 30, 40 years has had the biggest effect against this anti-American agenda, it's Ron
00:05:25.480 Paul, it's Lou Dobbs, and then kind of we all came later. And I'm not taking away from Tucker. I'm
00:05:30.080 friends with Tucker. Love Tucker. He's amazing. I think hopefully he'll have you on his show soon.
00:05:34.760 He should. But I just look back to the people that were telling me about this first. You know,
00:05:40.700 my grandfathers, both my mother's dad and my father's dad, they weren't on air, but they were
00:05:46.520 both aware of this because they were learned, educated men. So I just realized that it's like
00:05:52.700 the rock in the pond. So we can see the big waves now out from the edge of it. But I'm just saying
00:05:57.840 Lou Dobbs was one of the original big rocks thrown in the pond. So, you know, I don't
00:06:02.960 care about Hollywood people. I don't care about sports people, none of that. But I do get
00:06:06.840 a little bit giddy talking to you because I'm smart enough to look back and say, if there
00:06:11.680 wasn't Lou Dobbs for all those years on air, you know, the only person in mainstream media
00:06:18.040 saying it, we would be in a lot of trouble today. And we're still in a lot of trouble.
00:06:21.240 We're in a lot better position, thanks to you. So I know it's a little bit groveling here,
00:06:27.600 but I'm not. We need to recognize the people that were, you know, trailblazers. And you're
00:06:32.400 a maverick, brother.
00:06:33.880 Well, thank you. And I take that as high praise and coming from you. You know, you were talking
00:06:39.520 about being out in the bush. You were only in the bush because people were scared to death
00:06:44.820 of you in that establishment. And they were putting you back as far as they could, as long
00:06:49.220 as they could. And you broke through and hallelujah, brother. And it's like you say, it's a great
00:06:56.720 gathering, these voices now, to hear them taking up the issues that matter instead of the pablum
00:07:04.200 of the mainstream national corporate legacy, whatever you want to call Marxist media. People
00:07:10.060 are wising up to it in a hurry. And it's wonderful to see. And the question only now is, is it soon
00:07:17.780 enough? Because we're sitting here 10 months away from an election. It's I truly believe
00:07:22.860 it. You know, a lot of people say it's existential. It's all of this. I think it's our last best
00:07:27.580 chance, period. And we got to we got to move ahead. I want to ask you back in those days,
00:07:34.420 if you could ever have imagined in your earliest days that this country would have a 2000 mile
00:07:41.260 long border that they turned over to the Mexican drug cartels. There's no middleman. Biden just
00:07:46.920 handed over to the cartels. And the Border Patrol is afraid to get near it. The National Guard has to
00:07:54.000 on their side edge up to it. But no one is dealing with the reality that is the cartels controlling
00:08:01.560 Mexico and our border. It's total rogue warrior. You know, back 20 something years ago, when you're
00:08:07.440 exposing it in the last decade on Fox Business and all that, it was a problem. But but but not
00:08:13.040 because I've been down there 50 times or more like you have. Now it is road warrior bizarre.
00:08:19.120 You don't have to go looking for smugglers or kids being loaded in vans without their parents.
00:08:22.920 You go there for even 30 minutes and you are just I know I am dizzied or stunned by how insane it is.
00:08:31.740 And then I'm flying to the border and being groped to get there and groped to fly back.
00:08:37.020 And it just illustrates how asinine it is. There's all the security at the airport.
00:08:41.360 But then the border is completely wide open and the Border Patrol to their great irritation has been
00:08:48.620 turned into a facilitator of the crime. And it just shows the social contracts broken.
00:08:53.600 We know the NGOs that you exposed on Fox Business. They got you in so much trouble.
00:08:57.880 It's finally in the news are paying these Democrats we see on the news to house these illegals.
00:09:03.320 They're not doing it out of the goodness of their heart. It's a new business for Democrat voters
00:09:07.340 to bring in new Democrat voters, but also house them for 40, 50 thousand dollars a piece a year
00:09:14.540 in their house. So this is a business that's cloward and pivoted that will collapse the country.
00:09:20.700 And that's exactly what it's designed to do. So that's why I have a sickening feeling,
00:09:25.340 even though I'm optimistic and see a big awakening. I can still, like you said, tell it's crunch time.
00:09:30.380 You can cut the danger with a knife and really feel that America is at the crossroads right now.
00:09:38.020 This is the most important election in modern history, probably the most important election in
00:09:42.140 world history at this current point, because, as you know, elections are only a few hundred years old,
00:09:47.140 the modern world. I guess Greece had a few little tests with it or something in ancient times.
00:09:52.280 But it is truly amazing that we're at this point in history.
00:09:57.340 Yeah, it is amazing. And we're talking with the amazing Alex Jones. We're going to take
00:10:03.220 just a quick break. We're going to be right back. We're talking with Alex Jones about the things
00:10:08.020 that matter and matters most. Of course, this country, the United States of America. You don't
00:10:13.480 hear people say United States of America a lot, do you? You don't even hear them talk about the
00:10:18.180 United States anymore. They'll sort of whisper America, but they won't. That was my Biden impression,
00:10:24.940 by the way, Alex. We'll be right back with the great Alex Jones.
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00:12:04.620 We're back with Alex Jones. And Alex, I just want to turn to a reality that is the national
00:12:12.640 capital, the nation's capital, the swamp, the open sewer, whatever people want to describe it.
00:12:19.680 The truth is it's a land of coercion and blackmail and absolute raw political force. An NSA whistleblower
00:12:28.120 who's a guest on the show a great deal, a friend, he said point blank to me the first time I talked to
00:12:34.940 him, that he knew there was a problem when the NSA was spying on Barack Obama in 2004. He knew there
00:12:45.460 was a problem when Supreme Court justices were being surveilled by the NSA. And he became a whistleblower,
00:12:55.140 and to his great cost and to his great credit. He's a great patriot. We right now are facing
00:13:02.100 total surveillance. We are facing a total loss of constitutional rights because the American people
00:13:08.480 are taking it. How much more can we take, Alex? Well, you're absolutely right. I mean, look at
00:13:14.800 Tucker three years ago. He gets a call from the NSA and you're being spied on. He talks about it. They
00:13:21.560 don't deny it. A month later, the Washington Post goes, yeah, we've got your private messages and
00:13:26.020 we've got transcripts to your phone calls. That is a huge felony against a journalist. And Nixon
00:13:32.120 was removed from office for far less. And so there's this emboldened arrogance to all of it.
00:13:40.040 And I don't like Obama, but he shouldn't have been spied on by the NSA. And then we have Trump,
00:13:45.640 we know, as candidate Trump, and then presidential elected Trump. And then I guess what's the right
00:13:53.540 term? Nominee Trump. And then he was the president. But the point is the entire time they were spying
00:14:02.720 on him, trying to find something, and they didn't find anything. When he was candidate, president-elect,
00:14:09.760 or president, they had the two fake impeachments and the Russia game. I remember watching congressional
00:14:14.420 hearings six years ago, and they're just flat out, Alice Jones is a Russian agent. Never been to
00:14:20.640 Russia, not involved with Russia, know nothing about Russia when it comes to being there. But
00:14:24.480 they're just saying, I'm a Russian agent. All of Trump's supporters are Russian agents, because
00:14:29.160 they're the globalists that are selling out the country. And so they need to project onto us that
00:14:34.780 we're the unfaithful ones. And so, yeah, the general public knows it's not true, but they use that
00:14:40.420 designation to spy on us. And it's totally illegal. And so, yeah, we're kind of already inside the
00:14:48.260 tyranny. The question is, how high are they going to turn it up? Right. You're right. And just where
00:14:55.880 do they stop if they stop at all? We are right now, and the national mainstream media will not
00:15:03.020 acknowledge that these Marxists who control the Democrat Party, the Marxist Dems, who are the masters of
00:15:09.660 this puppet President Biden. They control the entire federal government. This is no joke anymore. This
00:15:17.480 is not a party that's interested in politics. This is a party that's interested in dominion. And they mean
00:15:23.780 to possess power in perpetuity. And meanwhile, we have a fight over the national, you know, the Republican
00:15:32.700 National Committee. We're having a fight over electors and the stuff that's at the margin. When the
00:15:39.180 reality is that government of ours is in the hands of a foreign power, that foreign power, I don't mean
00:15:45.320 in terms of geography. I mean, in terms of foreign, in the sense that it is alien to everything. This
00:15:51.220 country stands for the people who are the Marxist Dems who control that are aliens unto themselves.
00:15:58.500 And to the rest of this country, we are looking at a desperate, desperate inflection point in our
00:16:06.300 history. And it's whether or not we have the guts to stand up to the conflict that is surely coming.
00:16:12.440 Will it be open conflict? I don't know. But it will be conflict and there will be pain and there
00:16:18.560 will be loss and there will be sacrifice. And there's no way around it. And people have to
00:16:24.760 steel themselves to that. And I don't know if the American people have that in their spine right now.
00:16:30.440 Well, that's right, Lou. And you always say I learned so much from you. We think of Russia or
00:16:36.480 China, and there's certainly adversaries and China's really out of control and evil and
00:16:39.760 hugely wedded the Democratic Party and people like Mitch McConnell on the Republican side. So it's a
00:16:44.900 huge real threat. But the globalists, the leftists, the Marxists, they really hate America. Even when
00:16:51.320 they run it, they still see it because of its Christian background and because it did oppose the
00:16:56.300 Soviet Union and things as the enemy. And they are the main threat and that they are like a foreign
00:17:02.440 government. They are a fifth column. They really are an alien group to our country. BlackRock and the
00:17:09.640 big banks and the money and the Hollywood and the whole woke thing is just a corporate
00:17:14.840 cult with all these minions literally working against the country. And as big a threat as China is,
00:17:23.280 I'd say it's 20 percent of the threat and Russia is 10 percent of the threat. But then I'd say 30 percent
00:17:28.500 of the threat is our own domestic enemies that have opened us up to Islamic invasion and a criminal
00:17:34.600 invasion that have run our dollar down, that are saying they're going to put mentally ill people
00:17:38.860 in charge, flying airplanes. I mean, they are admittedly trying to bring down the old structure
00:17:46.760 to get control of it. I mentioned Cloward and Piven. This is on steroids. What's crazy is they're in the
00:17:53.580 house that they're undermining, that they're going to be destroyed by it. So they're so ideological.
00:17:59.740 They have such a sick ideology that they really are mentally ill. And I don't think they think
00:18:05.280 two, three, four steps ahead. And I agree with you. I don't know because there's a big awakening
00:18:11.240 happening. The average conservative or populist or Christian now knows, wait, we're in trouble.
00:18:15.040 But I still don't think they knew what you knew 20 years ago or I knew 20 years ago of just how
00:18:20.660 diabolical this is. And I just don't know if even our best people realize that we're two minutes to
00:18:27.120 midnight and that this is this is the crisis, not just of America, but civilization, because if the
00:18:32.600 globalists get full control and they can eradicate the idea of American freedom, then all we have is
00:18:38.080 Klaus Schwab and Bill Gates's ideology of scientific tyranny. And so that's why they're at war with us,
00:18:43.740 because even though it's the source of their power, the freedom we generated, the productivity,
00:18:50.000 still it's existential to them because they want to get rid of any ember of freedom that they believe
00:18:56.840 could reignite later and displace them.
00:18:59.660 Yeah, you're absolutely right. And if you look at it in terms of economics, we're looking at a country
00:19:05.680 in which large corporations, the tech industry itself, massive capital valuations, three trillion.
00:19:16.420 If you're in video, you get to go buy Amazon, Apple. We're talking trillions of dollars in three,
00:19:25.240 you're talking almost 10 trillion dollars in three companies. That's unheard of.
00:19:30.440 The idea that this country can somehow survive without being stepped on by these elephants,
00:19:38.460 we are the we are the dominions. We are the de minimis fragments floating in space, and they are
00:19:46.360 the all powerful. And we have to find some way in which to bring to heal the idea that this Marxist
00:19:54.640 government of ours is going to be responsive to the to the people, to the consent of the government.
00:20:00.080 I remember you doing business news whenever it was 2000 or whatever, and you were covering the
00:20:06.900 breakup of Microsoft and it was a monopoly and it was corrupt and deserved it. I look at Bill Gates's
00:20:11.960 corruption, not as a business reporter, but as a layperson. It's nothing compared to the three
00:20:16.520 big elephants that you just mentioned, Apple and Facebook and Amazon and Google. There's four
00:20:22.660 elephants. And Microsoft now is back. I mean, isn't the answer trust busting? But there's no
00:20:29.400 energy for that now. Yeah, there's no energy unless you're Elon Musk and you are a disruptor
00:20:36.280 and you do not heal to the to the to the principal narrative of these Marxist Dems. And then suddenly
00:20:44.460 you've got the SEC, you've got the FTC and every every EU coming right after you. And he'll be
00:20:53.140 performing before the SEC, I think, next week. That's where we are. We're talking with Alex Jones.
00:21:00.200 We're talking about whether or not this great republic will survive. And it's up to you when it's
00:21:05.420 up up to Alex and me. And we'll all try to do our part. I am sure we'll be right back. Stay with us.
00:21:11.620 Lou Dobbs here. I'm delighted to let you all know that the program Lou Dobbs tonight has returned to
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00:21:36.620 I hope you'll be joining us for Lou Dobbs tonight as our fight to save this country has only begun.
00:21:49.620 We're back. We're talking with Alex Jones and Alex, the idea that we have a 2000 mile border,
00:21:56.960 as I said, that is wide open as long as you're paying off the cartels because it's their property
00:22:03.560 now, not America's, not Mexico. And by the way, the cartels also are in charge of Lopez Obrador,
00:22:09.780 the president of Mexico and everyone in his government. So where do we stand and how in
00:22:15.900 the world is it? There's not anyone in this country. It seems to me really grasping the
00:22:21.920 desperate moment that we live in. And the American people seem to be just sucking air through their
00:22:27.420 teeth, waiting for somebody to say, you know, maybe we should be a little outraged at this.
00:22:32.560 Well, look at the $90 million spending package to Ukraine and Israel that they call a border package
00:22:39.220 and they think they'll pass to the house. I hope they don't. And the American people do get that
00:22:44.120 there's billions to NGOs to pay for more illegals. And it basically gives Biden the power to even
00:22:49.940 open the border up more and they see right through it. So, but, but they feel powerless. I mean,
00:22:54.820 just like you and I, at least we have platforms to warn people and we have border patrol that are
00:23:00.260 whistleblowing and we have all this happening, but I hate to use the World War II analogy or
00:23:05.780 maybe an Eastern Europe analogy after World War II, where Stalin's tanks are rolling into your country
00:23:11.280 and it's wrong and it's terrible. You want it to stop, but it's really happening.
00:23:15.480 And so I think in a way, because our government's been seized, we're spectators to this.
00:23:19.920 And one of the biggest hopes is Trump is wildly popular and I'm not a perfect person. None of us
00:23:25.920 are, but would shut this down overnight. It's just fighting with nine months left to try to get in
00:23:33.120 there with all these false indictments. This is way better than any football game and sudden death
00:23:37.700 overtime or basketball and overtime, because that stuff's fun and I enjoy it myself, but it doesn't
00:23:43.500 matter who wins the game at the end of the day. This is everything. This is our children.
00:23:47.800 I've got kids old enough now, but they have grandchildren. I know you're a father and all
00:23:52.300 the rest of it. And it's just to watch the establishment recklessly flush all this security
00:23:59.200 and freedom down the toilet for a perceived short-term bottom line really shows they're
00:24:05.700 disconnected. They're not the elitist they say they are. They're not the aristocrats they claim
00:24:10.340 because an aristocrat's not perfect. But if you've got a ruling class, they're supposed to hold up
00:24:14.620 society. They're supposed to try to build stability. And instead, I know we've got all
00:24:20.240 these lawyers and politicians and think tanks that just think they're invincible. You know,
00:24:25.040 if you go back to a great movie made about the Deepwater Horizon that was based on the transcripts
00:24:30.960 of the lawsuit and the British Petroleum criminal trial. And so the movie with Mark Wahlberg and
00:24:37.700 Kurt Russell's excellent. We've seen it. But it's based pretty much as close as you can get to
00:24:42.580 what really happened. And they get a call from BP's headquarters in the U.S. in Houston.
00:24:48.740 And they tell the head engineer, the head of the plant, yeah, we're spending $30 million a day to
00:24:52.500 drill this super deep well. We don't think we need to dump concrete in on the hole. He goes,
00:24:57.120 let me do an equation. He comes back 10 minutes later and he says, if we hit gas at any decent
00:25:02.420 level, it will blow up the plant. They said, well, we're going to, by saving $300 million in the next
00:25:09.120 couple of weeks, not putting concrete in the hole to pressurize it. We're going to leverage
00:25:13.840 that, make an extra billion dollars. So we don't care. You're ordered to do it. And so the engineer
00:25:19.040 said, we'll do a stress test and just test what you said for a few minutes. They did the stress
00:25:24.920 test, didn't blow up, turned it off. Just the stress test hours later blew it up and killed a
00:25:30.880 bunch of people and the biggest wall spill in history. And I don't think I know, I've talked a lot
00:25:35.480 of insiders. It's that corporate attitude of people in London and Houston telling engineers
00:25:41.100 on an oil drilling platform with 40 foot thousand deep well into the biggest reserve they ever found.
00:25:47.140 You don't need to follow math. You just go ahead and do whatever you want. And I think that's the
00:25:51.740 perfect allegory on an even bigger scale of where we are. We have reached lunatic level bizarreness
00:25:58.720 from the ruling class. No question about it. And anyone who pays attention
00:26:04.160 to the stock market, for example, has to be struck by the fact that we're $34 trillion
00:26:09.720 in debt. We've got $2 trillion in annual deficits. We have another almost $10 trillion in external debt.
00:26:20.320 Then we also have the Federal Reserve with another $8 trillion on its balance sheet that has to be
00:26:25.620 worked off. And meanwhile, you look over to CNBC or Fox Business or whomever,
00:26:32.220 and you and you see these these these sell side personalities saying, you know, you've got to buy
00:26:39.460 you've got to be X, B, Y Chinese stocks by the dozens. They're pushing American investment and savings
00:26:48.420 into the Chinese economy, which is madness in of itself. It's remarkable.
00:26:56.300 Which is, as you know, is imploding. I mean, I'm not a business expert like you, but I watch it.
00:27:00.280 I'm like, wait, China's imploding. Why am I watching CNBC and it's almost all go to China?
00:27:05.460 Like, I'm on a rocket scientist, Lou, but am I right? That's really bad advice. I mean,
00:27:09.240 this makes Kramer look like a good guy.
00:27:12.480 Well, you know, Kramer is a good guy. But the fact is, he's also a corporatist guy. And that's
00:27:18.720 his world. And that's understandable. But here's the real deal. This is the world we all live in.
00:27:23.760 And it matters where we put our money and it matters where we invest our money and it matters
00:27:28.760 where we put our plants, because the simplest truth that is in manufacturing is that the greatest
00:27:34.180 innovation, the greatest inventions have to be in proximity to markets and the plants that
00:27:42.260 fabricate whatever the product may be, whether it's a car, whether it is advanced technology.
00:27:49.040 And those that don't know, you can have the best technology ever. But if you don't have
00:27:51.600 infrastructure to do it, you don't have it. And if you don't have it in proximity to your
00:27:55.660 market, you're even dumber. And guess what? You hear that crying? That's all those people
00:28:01.440 who invested in those global supply chains that screw up nearly every business in this
00:28:05.840 country. We're paying a horrible price for it. And we're a more dependent nation as a
00:28:10.020 result. So let me ask you, though. I mean, I see what's happening in China. It looks really
00:28:13.940 bad. I know that'll drag us down partially. We're pivoting to India. But how can they be on
00:28:19.560 CNBC and Bloomberg advising people to go to China? I'm not the big business guru like you,
00:28:25.260 but that sounds like really bad advice. Well, it's not only, you know, it's just advice.
00:28:31.400 And the fact is, if you're a corporatist, it's wonderful advice. If you're a populist,
00:28:36.060 it sucks. I mean, let's be straightforward about it. It's a terrible thing for this country not to
00:28:41.380 even be having the conversation about building plants, as Donald Trump said when he said he's going
00:28:47.480 to bring back all the outsourced jobs, all of the plants back to America. There's so many out
00:28:51.780 there, it's going to take years to bring them home. But if we don't, we're going to pay an even
00:28:56.560 heavier price. So let me ask you this, because I know you're interviewing me, but it's true.
00:29:01.900 You're smarter than me when it comes to business. What is your dead reckoning? Because I'm going to
00:29:07.280 air this on my show. You told me during the break of good. So I'm going to air it a couple of days.
00:29:10.400 What is your dead reckoning? Because I'm trying to tell my family. They're concerned.
00:29:13.640 I don't know. I'm pretty smart. I don't know what's going to happen financially. That's the
00:29:18.080 one area. I'm pretty good at other predictions, but I'm like a blind bat when it comes to finance
00:29:23.180 and the economy and the Federal Reserve and inflation. I mean, what do you, just in a summation,
00:29:27.920 really things going on, Lou Dobbs? Well, in summation, and you're ending this with a very good
00:29:35.780 question. And the reality is no one knows the answer to it, because the complexity of this
00:29:40.860 globalist economy that we've constructed, the derivatives alone are exponentially greater than
00:29:48.680 the physical economy. And the physical economy is right now, there's a veil between, a veil, a curtain,
00:29:55.520 maybe even an iron curtain between investors and savers, taxpayers and working people,
00:30:03.240 and the financial structure that is the lifeblood of it all. It is right now such a complicated
00:30:11.380 economy. For example, in China, we don't know if their GDP goes up 5% or 10%, whatever they say,
00:30:17.640 that's what it is, because there is no clarity. And right now, there is no clarity on what they're
00:30:22.960 saying. There's such a black box with derivatives in China. That's what it looks like to me is like
00:30:27.960 with St. Bankman Frye or anybody. They don't even know. The Federal Reserve is like, oh, inflation
00:30:33.240 is down. No, it's up. Oh, we're in a raise, raise lower. To me, it looks like they don't know what
00:30:37.600 they're doing. They know what they're doing. They just don't care about the consequences.
00:30:44.060 And that's the chief difference. And by the way, that sounds like a political economy, doesn't it?
00:30:48.240 Because our politicians are thinking the same way as the oligarchs and the corporatists.
00:30:53.440 So they're backing up their investments in China and other places at the detriment of
00:30:58.200 Americans. Oftentimes, without question, and certainly to their own benefit. But that's
00:31:04.960 the beauty of capitalism, raw, unfettered capitalism, laissez-faire capitalism.
00:31:09.840 Adam Smith.
00:31:10.260 Take no responsibility for the consequences of your actions so long as they drive profits.
00:31:16.920 A true capitalist takes responsibility and understands the impact of society
00:31:22.160 and to all of its stakeholders or her stakeholders. And that is that was that was America 1980,
00:31:28.940 1990. Well, Henry Ford, Henry Ford was unleashed. I'm interrupting. Sorry, go ahead.
00:31:34.520 No, I you were saying 1980 unleashed. Say it again.
00:31:38.420 Well, I'm saying to you that we had a compassionate conservatism. We had a concerned capitalism
00:31:45.880 and a responsible capitalism. What we're witnessing today is a mad rush to unexpected, unknown and
00:31:54.120 unpredictable consequences. Take, for example, the investments in China. It could be a black hole.
00:32:01.160 It could also be a fountain of capital. We don't know the answer. Everyone pretends they do.
00:32:07.920 Take our artificial intelligence. We don't know whether the extension of artificial intelligence
00:32:12.660 is an extraordinarily efficient and utopian world for all of us in it or whether there will be no room
00:32:20.060 for us in any of what is transhumanism and a world that is dominated by machines rather than
00:32:29.220 something quite called a human. Absolutely. It's just an incredible moment to be alive. And
00:32:36.580 it makes my head spin because there's so many, like you said, so many variables going into it. And
00:32:44.260 it seems like the establishment only thinks first or second order. They're not thinking out further
00:32:49.180 what it's going to do. Yeah. And they also and I've just been given a signal that this is your last
00:32:56.380 question on your show. But the reality is that right now, this is a country with so many problems,
00:33:05.480 desperate problems in terms of how we're going to live. And you mentioned your children and mine
00:33:10.520 and grandchildren. In my case, you know, we have a great investment in their prospects in their future.
00:33:17.080 And this nation's, I think, destiny is the way I look at this country's future. It is a destiny.
00:33:22.920 But only if we ourselves live up to the principles of our founders and those philosophers
00:33:29.240 and patriots who made it possible. Alex Jones, I want to get graded on my last answer.
00:33:36.760 I insist you've been asking all the I have to get an A. It's A through F.
00:33:41.160 Well, I'm interesting. I'm interesting, but you're even more interesting. It's true. And I'm going to
00:33:45.080 air this on my show. And you need to come on my show as soon as you can. It's been 10 years.
00:33:49.880 Gut level, just, you know, pass the business expert and journalist, talk show host to grandpa.
00:33:55.080 Well, when I look at my children and they're getting old enough to get together and get
00:33:59.960 married and have kids, it makes me physically sick because I love them so much. And they're
00:34:04.680 the only investment that matters. And I just gut level look everything. Trump's not perfect,
00:34:08.920 but I can just feel Trump is going to protect their future. Just gut level, not as intellectual.
00:34:14.280 I just want Trump. And because the end of the day, I have all the math, the numbers. He's a good guy.
00:34:18.920 He means well. He agrees with us on most things. But gut level, obviously better than Michelle Obama
00:34:24.600 or Gavin Newsom or Biden or any of them. We need Trump. Gut level, do you think Trump can make it
00:34:32.120 through all this and get in? A and B, what can we do to get him in? Well, the answer is he has to get
00:34:38.600 in. He is committed to that. I wish that more Americans were as committed as he to his leadership
00:34:45.400 and to this great nation. The MAGA world, all of us deplorables, America first, we're going to be
00:34:53.880 there. But we've got to do even more than just vote for him. We've got to be part of our community.
00:34:58.520 We've got to be in those precincts and we have got to be watching and we've got to be doing and
00:35:02.920 we've got to be telling anybody who doesn't want our eyes on them, go to hell. I'll be right here
00:35:09.560 watching over our democracy. And you just step aside. That's where we have to be.
00:35:15.720 And from there, I think we start to see excellent results if we are living our lives in our
00:35:20.520 communities and taking charge of our communities rather than letting this world wash over us in
00:35:26.360 terms of big questions and nonsense spewed by the propagandists that we call a government spokesman.
00:35:35.080 Well, I know one thing for sure in closing, thanks for having me on,
00:35:38.360 is that we're not living in boring times. Anybody that says I'm bored is not paying attention.
00:35:43.480 We are in extremely dangerous, but also very opportune times where the Chinese say,
00:35:49.560 may you live in interesting times. That's a double meaning.
00:35:51.640 Lou Dobbs, thank you so much for having me on. Love you to death, man.
00:35:54.600 Thanks to Alex Jones and thank you everybody for being with us. Join us tomorrow for The Great
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