OUR ENEMIES WITHIN
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A new report out today by independent journalists Michael Schellenberger and Matt Taibbi says the U.S. Intelligence Community asked foreign intelligence agencies to spy on 26 associates of Donald Trump in the run-up to the 2016 election.
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Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs. Welcome to The Great America Show. Thanks for being with us.
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A new report out today by independent journalists Michael Schellenberger and Matt Taibbi saying the
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U.S. intel community asked foreign intelligence agencies to spy on 26 associates of Donald Trump
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in the run-up to the 2016 elections as early as 2015. The spying is what triggered the allegations
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that Trump's campaign was colluding with Russia. That, according to the report, former CIA director
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John Brennan identified as the mastermind, of course, with the help of President Barack Hussein
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Obama. Think about something for just one second. If independent journalists were able to get their
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hands on this evidence, what in the world was the Department of Justice and the intel community heads,
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what were they doing? They've known about this from the very beginning almost a decade ago. And each day that
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goes by, we learn how much more of a swamp creature Mitch McConnell really is. Senator Ron Johnson on a
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Just very simply, when we entered this thing, McConnell, his top priority was funding for Ukraine.
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But public opinion and the very strong political rhetoric that we ought to secure our own border
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before we spend $60 billion to secure Ukraine's was effective. And so McConnell finally switched
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and said, OK, we've got to let Democrats know we're serious. We're going to defeat cloture on this bill.
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And we're going to demand that border security is going to be attached to funding for Ukraine.
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Then secret negotiations occurred on an issue that the public supports Republicans on.
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And we end up with this monstrosity of a bill. It's an immigration bill. It's not a border security
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bill. But during that time frame, we repeatedly talked about making Ukraine funding contingent
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on border metrics, you know, just like performance measurements in business, right? As the border was
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secured, you'd get $5 billion a month. I mean, we had it all laid out, had a proposal. It had a great
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deal of support in our conference. But what Mike pointed out is, unbeknownst to us at the time,
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McConnell told Langford, that's not even on the table. He, on his own, using his own authority,
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without telling the conference, even though he knew the conference supported tying border security or
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Ukraine funding to actually securing the border. McConnell just took that off the table. And that
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moment of leverage we had, where we could use Biden's desire for Ukraine funding to actually
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force him to use his executive authority to secure the border, has been lost. And that is why so many
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of us are speaking out against McConnell. It was such a breach of his leadership position,
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and is such a, you know, just a horrible thing to do to Americans who want to secure border.
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But that's, that's where we're at. So again, I think it has been smoked out. Now the action moves to the
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House. McConnell is a bad man. He's a man of no courage, conscience or conviction. And I think it's
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time President Trump demand he goes. And House Intel Chair Mike Turner, creating a bit of a storm
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yesterday, releasing a rather peculiar statement, warning of a, quote, serious national security
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threat to America. Turner wrote, quote, I'm requesting that President Biden declassify all
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information relating to this threat so that Congress, the administration and our allies can
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openly discuss the actions necessary to respond to this threat. Listen to what national security
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advisor, Jake Sullivan, tried to sweep under the rug. Shortly before you came out, Congressman Mike
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Turner issued a statement saying that President Biden should declassify intelligence related to a, quote,
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serious national security threat. What can you say about the threat and what the administration
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plans to do? So first, I reached out earlier this week to the Gang of Eight to offer myself for up for a
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personal briefing to the Gang of Eight. And in fact, we scheduled a briefing for the four House
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members of the Gang of Eight tomorrow. That's been on the books. So I am a bit surprised that
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Congressman Turner came out publicly today in advance of a meeting on the books for me to go sit with him
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alongside our intelligence and defense professionals tomorrow. That's his choice to do that. All I can
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tell you is that I'm focused on going to see him sit with him as well as the other House members of the
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Gang of Eight tomorrow. And I'm not in a position to say anything further from this podium at this
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time. Our guest today is Bernie Carrick. He's the former commissioner of the New York City Police
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Department. And Bernie, it is great to have you with us on The Great America Show. Delighted to see you.
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I want to start with what I thought was the most compelling piece of news, at least so far this
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week. White House Dr. Kevin O'Connor saying he would not advise President Biden to take a
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neurological exam or a cognitive test. And I have to say, to something of a skeptical reaction on the
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part of the public, what's yours? Well, listen, I don't think the doctor is any different from the
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rest of the Democratic Party that's been ignoring this continual decline. You know, think about it,
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Lou, for a second, dating back to 20, right? Nobody thought that this guy could actually be the
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president because of his cognitive decline. At that point, this is in 20. He has continually declined
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ever since, to the point that now he doesn't know the difference between Mexico and Egypt.
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He doesn't know when his son passed away. He doesn't know where he is. He doesn't know how to get off of
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a stage. He, you know, and it's continually getting worse. Now he's getting, he's like the angry old man
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that has, you know, that has problems. And it's only getting worse for his doctor to say that I don't
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think it's necessary, or I don't think he should, or I can't recommend that he does, is completely insane.
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It makes you think that perhaps the doctor should be taking some tests of some sort.
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But it's, as you say, it comports to the rest of the Biden regime. They have, it is a din of liars and thieves.
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It is extraordinary. They put forward people like Ian Samms as the spokesperson for the White House Council.
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He's not a liar. He has a message, and that's it.
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Hey, Lou, you know something? Think back to even 10, even 10 years ago, but more so 20, 30 years ago.
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If we had this circumstance, I would say 80% of the Democrats in the Democratic Party would stand up
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and say, hey, enough is enough. It's wrong. There's something wrong. He's got to go.
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They would work on a method to get him out of there. The Democrats don't have the courage among them,
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among all of them. Nobody has the courage to stand up and call it what it is.
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Yeah. You put it on courage, and I think you're right about that. But there is also integrity,
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and they're totally lacking in honesty, integrity. There is no such thing right now.
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And the Democrat body politic, or as we call them here now, the Marxist Dems,
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because they are led by Marxist Dems. There is an authoritarian, I think a totalitarian stream
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running through this party, Bernie. It doesn't suffer dissent. It doesn't suffer disloyalty of any
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kind. It's just a different party. And it is not a traditional political party as it once was.
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This is a party of, frankly, to me, Marxists who mean to subvert this government and this nation
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and destroy it as a constitutional Republican. And they are making immense progress, don't you think?
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I think they are. I think they are because the American people don't stand up the way they should.
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We have Republicans, I'm sad to say, that lack courage, lack integrity, and lack a bunch of other
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stuff that should be standing up in the middle of this and screaming at the top of their lungs.
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Yet they're jumping on the bandwagon with, you know, with McConnell, with Romney, guys like this.
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You know, you can't tell who the enemy is these days because they're like chameleons within the government.
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Yeah, it's true. You do have the standard bears for the Marxist Dems. They're easy to spot.
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The rhinos in the Republican Party are easy to spot when you get a vote. But other than that,
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they try to act like why they could even get along with even Donald Trump for crying out loud. That's
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how noble and forgiving they are. These elites are something else that inhabit the open sewer that
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is our nation's capital. It's appalling. And going to your point, 20 years ago, can you,
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and I've covered the border issue in this country, the illegal immigration issue in this country for
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a very long time. But if you would have said 20 years ago that an administration upon taking office
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would strip all enforcement along that 2,000 mile border, would invite in, in league with NGOs and
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various oligarchs, 12 to 15 million, there's the best estimates, into this country. And we wouldn't
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even know where they are. And the, and the American people wouldn't be in, in an uproar.
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We don't, you know, honestly, Lou, one, we don't know where they are. We don't know where they're
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going. They're not monitored. You've got now, right now, at, at estimates from DHS and the FBI,
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you probably have about 150,000 that have come in to our country from what I would call target areas,
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right? Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Yemen, Somalia, Kenya, all these countries. We've had, we've had
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about 150,000 come in and disintegrate into communities like chameleons. And these are people
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that want the demise of this country. What administration, what, what, what U.S. Patriot
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would allow that? Not, not, not only allow it, but support it, but encourage it, but pay for it,
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but, but, but, and would fund it through the government, through NGOs, through state and city
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governments. This is the most absurd, especially somebody like me that's, that lived through 9-11
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and saw the, the result of what happens when people come into this country, despising this country.
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And they're coming in, they being primarily military age males. They're coming in from China,
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they're coming in from Africa, they're coming in from South America. And no one, no one is vetting
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them in any fashion whatsoever. We don't know where they are. They've been distributed across the
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country. And, and for, for me to sit here and talk about this, it just infuriates me because of the
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reaction primarily of the American people right now. And what I want to take up with you as we
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continue our conversation after these quick words, Bernie, I want to talk about just exactly what have
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we become and what must we do to preserve the Republic? Because we have only one election, I think,
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in which to do it. We're talking with Bernie Carrick. We'll be right back in just a moment. Stay with us.
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today. Be ready tomorrow. We're back now with Bernie Carrick. And Bernie, again, it's a pleasure to have
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you on the show. I don't know what we have become in this country. The Dems are, without question,
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Marxists. They are led by Marxists. They have a puppet in the White House controlled by Marxist masters.
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Our education system, our city government, our federal government, most of the state governments
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in some way are influenced by Marxism, diversity, equity, inclusion, all of these nonsensical
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just hash words that have been brought up to basically attack the system, attack the American
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way of life and Americans. We are at a point that I cannot even imagine we could sustain for another
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year without, frankly, open conflict. You're thinking on where we are and what is happening
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in our major cities, particularly, and this nation. I think a couple of things, Lou. One,
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I don't think we can sustain what's going on at this point beyond this next election. If Donald Trump
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does not become the next president, and I say Donald Trump for this reason, there's a bunch of
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Republicans in the Republican Party that want to be the president. Personally, you know, I've known
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Trump since 1992. I worked for him during and after the election in 2020. I have to tell you that I don't
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think there's anyone else that can do what has to be done, given the times we live in. So it has to be
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Trump. If it's not, I see a complete implosion of the government. And I think it will revert to
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possibly a civil war of some type, because you have patriots all over this country. 80 million people
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voted for Trump. And these people are sick and tired of their constitutional rights being
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just disintegrated by the political left, by the Marxist. Their children are going to schools,
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learning things, being forced to learn things in schools they don't want. I see an incredible,
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incredible problem. And my fear, Lou, is, you know, within the government, right, within the military
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organizations, even within the police departments, you know, you swear to an oath to, you swear to an
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oath to on the Constitution, right? You swear to uphold the Constitution, to uphold the laws of the land
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from enemies, foreign and domestic. And it's clear that there's a clear and present danger
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what these Marxists are doing to the country. But you still have people in the military that's
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agreeable, that's following the order, that's doing what they're told, that's cowering to things that
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they know, they know, and they're not supposed to obey an order that's not lawful. But when the CBP is
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told, stand down, don't enforce the laws that are on the books, you know, you know, Joe Biden says that
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he needs the legislatures, the legislators to act, in other words, in order to fix the borders. That's
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a complete lie. That's a lie. All the laws that he needs to secure the borders of this country,
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they're on the books. What he's done is he's basically told the CBP, Mayorkas, the Secretary of
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Homeland and others, stand down and don't do your job. How does Mayorkas do that? Swearing to the
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Constitution. How does he do that? How did the people under him do that? That's one of my biggest,
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you know, I've had this conversation with General Flynn. That is one of my biggest, you know,
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it infuriates me that these people don't stand up and say something.
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Well, the military is, first of all, Bernie, it's not a military that certainly we would have
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understood as young men. It is not a military that makes any sense at all. The leadership,
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the Pentagon is filled with, I mean, frankly, most of them are panty-waist generals, okay?
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I'm going to just say it. And they haven't got the brains to, you know, to blow their nose.
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It's just, it's outrageous to me the state we're in. You have a David Petraeus who's exalted around
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New York City and Manhattan. He's trotted out by oligarchs as some big special individual.
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And, you know, I appreciate his service, but he did the nation a great disservice when he came out
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with his big intellectual dissertation called the Doctrine of the Long War. And all it brought was
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more long wars. Yeah, exactly. It is disgusting what we are watching. You know, generals running
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around in G-650s, prancing around like dilettantes instead of career warriors. I have no way to
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understand them. And I have no way to understand why we have tolerated a military that is in combine
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with the military industrial complex to the point that we've got hundreds of troops scattered across
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the Middle East to work as, you know, support troops, battery experts for air defense. It's just
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disgusting what we're doing. President Trump said it, bring our troops home. Let's have a modest foreign
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policy. And all of the effete globalists in New York about wet themselves, that anyone would talk
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reasonably and rationally about both our resources, the immense wealth of this nation being squandered
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by fakes and fools that populate the Pentagon, Wall Street, and certainly Congress and this White
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You know what? You summed it up, Flew. I can't I can't agree with you more. And there's one thing
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you said. Donald Trump said it. Donald Trump did it. Donald Trump did it. And that's that's what
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drives these people completely insane, because they know if Donald Trump gets back in the White House,
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what he says he will do. He will do. If he says he's going to get something accomplished,
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he'll get it done. Yeah. And I have to tell you, looking back, you know, history will prove has proven
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basically he did what he said he would do. And he had a bunch of snakes all around them.
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Oh, man. Saturated by snakes. And I'll tell you, in the in the aftermath of the 2020 election,
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you know, I oversaw the investigative piece of the legal team. I was stunned by the people around
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him, by some of the people around. I was stunned that there was so much disloyalty and, and, you
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know, indifference, and they didn't care. And they could care less. I was shocked. I mean, I was shocked.
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And I think he's learned that through this process. And I think things will change the next
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time around. He's going to do what he says he's going to do. And that's what scares the hell out
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of all these people. Yeah. And I hope that he has around him now, a phalanx of our loyal,
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committed, first America, first men and women who will be absolutely directed toward restoring this
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country to greatness, as he will be committed to leading us to that. We're talking with Bernie
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Carrick. We're coming right back. And there's a new development at the RNC. And I got to tell you,
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for the first time in, oh, I'm going to say 10 years, I think we got a winner in the Republican
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National Committee. Two of them. We're coming right back. Stay with us.
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We're back now. We're talking with Bernie Carrick. And we're talking about, as we went to break,
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I was talking about a development in the RNC that I think is great. Laura Trump joins his co-chair,
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Wadley from North Carolina, the chair, and President Trump making it very clear who's going
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to be atop the RNC. And by the way, there's a member of the family to watch everything that goes
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on. And I feel really good about that. Bernie Carrick, how do you feel? Honestly, Lou, I couldn't
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be more happy because three years ago, during the investigation after the election, Giuliani and I
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realized that Rona McDaniels and the RNC was doing absolutely nothing to help the president. In fact,
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in fact, they were working against him. Rona McDaniels, chief of staff, either he was his chief
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chief of staff or her counsel. We intercepted an email from him. He sent out to his group basically
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saying, do not deal with the legal team. Don't support them. And we make a lot more money fighting
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Democrats than we do soliciting money for legal funds. So I have nothing to do with the legal team
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at a time that we really needed their support. And she was behind that. I wanted her gone then.
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I can't. I think it can't come quick enough. And back then, three years ago, I said, we should
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look at Larry Trump. She's perfect. She's perfect to do this. And I couldn't be more happy, really
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couldn't be more happy. Well, I agree with you. I have to say, Rona McDaniel lied straight to my face
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when I talk. I was talking with her about the ground game, the ground operation for President
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Trump and for the Republican Party, obviously. And she told me, Lou, don't even think about worrying
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about it. We have attorneys everywhere. We have every problem district, voting district covered.
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Excuse me. And, you know, it's going to be great. Election night comes. There are lawyers not to be found.
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The ground operation is a joke. It was just it was appalling what we saw. And yes, the campaign of Donald
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Trump, they had responsibility for that because they accepted, you know, they they did what I did. They took them
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at their word. And that was a mistake. It's a mistake that, you know, is just as you put it,
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it was Rona McDaniel making the mistake. And the mistake was lying to everybody about how great the
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ground game was when all she cared about was Rona McDaniel, the RNC, and maintaining her power,
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no matter who was the president of the United States.
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That's exactly right. And you know what? I concur. You know, they were supposed to have
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this stuff handled. We were told when we got down there on November 5th that the campaign in
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conjunction with the RNC, but the RNC was overseeing it. They had legal teams prepared to go. They had
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lawyers. They had all this stuff. And at the end of the day, the only people fighting for the
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president was Giuliani and his legal team because of the rest of them were nowhere to be found.
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And she was the head of that. She was the head and did absolutely nothing.
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Well, it's just I'm so proud of the president for getting it done and getting Rona out of there.
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This to take place, at least the president's, I think, timeline is right after the South Carolina
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primary. And I think there's going to be a whole different attitude in the Republican Party as a
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result of this. There's one holdout right now that's kind of who has to go. And that's Mitch McConnell.
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And I don't care what it takes. I don't want to hear any excuses from any Republican in the United
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States Senate. There is no excuse on earth for putting up with this slimy snake at the head of the
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Republicans in Congress, the leader of the Republicans in the Senate. It's just outrageous that they're
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tolerating this. I can't imagine a man like Ted Cruz. I can't imagine a man like Mike Lee putting
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up with it. They're calling for his ouster, but there are words and there's doing. And the doing
00:29:35.340
needs to be taken care of right now. I want to turn to another revelation when we're talking about the
00:29:41.400
election, Bernie. And that is, and the Gateway Pundit has got this great story, the FOIA documents
00:29:48.000
revealing secret, a secret 2020 election day meeting. And guess who was in that meeting?
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The cybersecurity and infrastructure security agency, which was responsible for the integrity
00:30:02.700
of the election. Remember, what was his name? Krebs saying it was a perfect, perfect, secure election,
00:30:09.460
right? Most secure election ever, he said. And guess who else was in the meeting? This phone
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call at 3.30 in the afternoon, Eastern time. Dominion, ES&S, two voting, electronic voting
00:30:21.280
companies. Eric, the George Soros-sponsored role security, voting role security outfit.
00:30:30.180
There are only about 21 of them, I think, left out of what were 30-something, because everybody
00:30:34.240
understands now, Eric is not on the side of truth, justice, and the American way.
00:30:38.920
The FBI, we don't have to say anything about that, leftist nonprofits and organizations,
00:30:45.100
state officials, and others, only recently discovered they were having a meeting at 3.30,
00:30:51.760
and what about? That is the issue. And the Gateway Pundit's going to have the story going forward,
00:30:57.400
but it's clear that that was a consortium of really, really concerning elements in the election
00:31:07.060
process, all of them left-wing, all of them with a decided bias and powerful urge to actually defeat
00:31:19.180
You know, Giuliani and I talked about this early on, but I honestly believe that there was a mass
00:31:27.380
conspiracy, a mass conspiracy. Within the Bureau, DOJ, Democratic Party, Dominion, Smartmatic,
00:31:39.480
all these companies, they had one thing in mind. I believe, it's my opinion, and my opinion is based
00:31:47.800
on a lot of what we uncovered during the investigation that resulted in us finding overwhelming fraud,
00:31:57.640
overwhelming improprieties. How do you have 500,000 ballots show up between one o'clock and
00:32:05.640
five o'clock in the morning in Pennsylvania? You know, things like this, we were finding this stuff
00:32:12.520
on a daily basis, and they've done, they were doing everything in their power to conceal it,
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to suppress it, and more importantly, they were doing everything in their power to suppress
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the people that were finding it. What did they do? They targeted me, they targeted Giuliani,
00:32:32.140
they targeted Roger Stone, they targeted Steve Bannon, Mike Flynn, you name it, you name it.
00:32:38.600
Everybody that was looking at the election and trying to determine what happened, why,
00:32:45.480
where the votes came from, where the votes went, everything they were looking at, they were targeted
00:32:51.660
for. And this is completely, it's just insane. Yeah, and I think there was a hesitation in point of fact
00:32:58.820
within that group of people. I think there was a hesitation because I think even the people who saw
00:33:06.760
the, how crooked it was, and how rigged it was, whether it's 51 intel veterans lying through their
00:33:14.280
teeth about the Hunter Biden laptop, just so Joe Biden has a shield in the final debate with President
00:33:20.100
Trump. I mean, that alone changed about 13% of the votes in the country. It changed history.
00:33:26.560
That one statement that where was the FBI? Why didn't Bill Barr investigate? And why did Bill Barr send
00:33:36.380
agents out to Twitter, as it was then known, to Facebook and others suppressing the voices of
00:33:44.820
conservatives and MAGA, American First Americans? It's really extraordinary. But the one point I wanted
00:33:52.100
to make here is I turn to you for concluding thoughts. We always give our guests, we try to
00:33:56.800
give our guests the last word. This story I'm talking about in Gateway Pundit with all of these
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organizations, the agency responsible for security of the elections, Dominion, ES&S, two of the five
00:34:09.540
prominent electronic voting companies, ERIC, FBI, leftist organizations, the only thing missing from
00:34:16.600
that phone call on election day at 3.30 in the afternoon, all of those organizations, there was
00:34:22.800
no Republican, there was no Republican official, there was no campaign official from the Republican
00:34:29.080
Party or from the campaign of President Donald J. Trump. And I think we have to start with the
00:34:35.680
first question, which is, why weren't they there?
00:34:40.820
So I turn to you, Bernie, and I just enjoyed our conversation today. I hope you'll come back soon.
00:34:46.280
And we also give our guests the last word and your concluding thoughts.
00:34:50.980
Well, I think the why, you know, why weren't they there? Nobody wanted them there.
00:34:58.580
What that group wanted was to, you know, move forward in their own direction. They weren't looking
00:35:06.320
out for the country. They were looking out for the White House. They were looking out for Joe Biden.
00:35:10.860
They were looking out for themselves. They weren't looking out for the country.
00:35:15.700
They didn't give a damn about what was going to happen to the country. They didn't give a damn
00:35:20.440
about integrity or truth. It was all about their mission. And their mission was to get Biden and
00:35:27.180
put him in office. That was their mission. And given their mission, they didn't want nobody else around.
00:35:33.100
Well, we've got a mission now. And as you said, from the outset, we've got to get Donald J. Trump
00:35:40.320
reelected president of the United States. And that means everybody has got to put shoulder to shoulder.
00:35:47.340
We have got to come together as a party and get behind our standard bearer and the leader of that
00:35:52.540
party and truly the leader of this great nation. That hasn't changed. Even with the presence of Joe
00:36:00.260
Biden in the White House, Donald Trump remains the heart and soul of this country's leadership.
00:36:07.540
He is the leader. And come November 5th, everybody, let's make sure, make sure that we
00:36:15.460
get him into the White House to save our republic. Bernie Carrick, great American. Thank you for being
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with us here. I hope you'll be back soon. And to everyone, thank you and God bless.
00:36:29.620
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