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Sen. Tommy Tuberville (D-Alabama) joins the Great America Show with Lou Dobbs to talk about the Red Storm Rising and what it means for the future of the country and the world. Lou also talks about the current state of the U.S. government and what he would like to see in it.
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Great America Podcast with Lou Dobbs,
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always in the fight for truth, justice, and yes, our American way of life.
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And now, here he is, the Peabody award-winning voice of truth, the great Lou Dobbs.
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Hello, everybody. The Great America Show is here, and we thank you for being with us.
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We've been talking since the beginning of this podcast, and that's been,
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well, at least a few weeks now. But we've been talking about the Red Storm Rising,
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whether it originates in communist China or communist Russia. That storm is brewing.
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Xi Jinping continues to threaten Australia, the United Kingdom, the United States,
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for their diplomatic boycott of the upcoming Beijing Olympics,
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threatening the U.S. Navy as well in the South China Sea.
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And in Europe, it's Vladimir Putin doing the threatening. He's threatening Ukraine,
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massing Russian troops and armor across the eastern border of Ukraine, and, of course,
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threatening our Navy and the Black Sea and our Air Force over the Black Sea.
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And what does President Biden do? Do you really want to know?
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Can you imagine that it's much? Because it really isn't.
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He, in turn, has threatened Putin. How did he do that?
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Why, he just put sanctions on Russia. That's what he'd do
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if they were to invade Ukraine. Can you imagine that? Economic sanctions and
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Putin gets another country? Ukraine. And we still don't know what our president said to
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President Xi in their two-and-a-half-hour-long telephone call. President Biden just will not tell
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journalists what he talked about. He won't tell us. But we know he began both recent conversations
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with both dictators by waving to them. Isn't that nice? Well, Mr. Biden is in deep political
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trouble. So is his vice president. Their approval ratings are so low, they both look like lame ducks,
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and they haven't been in office even a year. I can't even begin to tell you how deeply concerning
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it is that we have a vice president like Kamala Harris and a president like Joe Biden.
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70% of the country thinks we're headed in the wrong direction. And I'm in that high percentage
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of Americans who believe so. It is really troubling to think of all the challenges and all the threats
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this nation faces. And we have leadership like the leadership we have. Well, speaking of leaders,
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I'm joined now by a terrific, great American, Tommy Tuberville, Senator Tommy Tuberville. He was just an
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outstanding coach for 40 years. He coached the football Tigers of Auburn to great records and seasons and
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had a lot of fun doing it, I'm sure. I sure had a lot of fun watching him and his teams and the great
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University of Auburn do their thing on the football field. He's sitting now as U.S. Senator from the
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great state of Alabama. He sits on the Senate Armed Services Committee, the Veterans Affairs Committee,
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the Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee, and the Committee on Agriculture,
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Nutrition and Forestry. And now here he is, Coach Tommy Tuberville. We also call him Senator Tuberville.
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And I just had to say that, Senator. You are such a welcome addition to that fancy club,
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the U.S. Senate. We're proud of you and grateful to you. So, Senator, welcome to the Great America Show.
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It's good of you to take the time to be with us. Thank you, Luke. Glad to be on. You know, I've been up here,
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I guess, 10 months now and I'm learning every day. And a lot of people ask me, Coach, how's it going up there?
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I said, well, the animals are running the zoo right now. When you're in the minority, it's my first year
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and we're in the minority. There's not a whole lot you can do other than play defense. And so that's
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what we've done and tried to do as much blocking and tackling as we've been able to do, trying to
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keep them, keep these people from spending the taxpayers' money. They keep calling it government
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money. Hell, this is the taxpayers' money that they're spending. And it's just way out of control.
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Inflation's hitting. And everything that Joe Biden's done, Lou, has just been disastrous for our
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country. Not one thing I can think of that has come across my desk or through the Senate that
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Joe Biden has done that has made our country better. Everything he's done has made it worse.
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And in short orders, Senator, I mean, who thought, I mean, I personally, I thought it was going to be
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a disaster, but I didn't think this big a disaster and I didn't think it would certainly be so profound
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so early in his administration. He hasn't even been in office a year now. Suddenly we're not energy
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independent. The country is questioning just about everything about our government and our standard
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of living. We're looking at, as you say, runaway inflation, 6.2% inflation rates. It looks like
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some significant trouble if we don't change direction. 70% of the country wants us to go
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in a new direction. Your thoughts? Well, you're exactly right. And you can tell it was a plan from
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day one of what they were going to do, how they were going to do it, and when they were going to do it.
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And they were going to do it in such an order to pretty much take away anything that President
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Trump did. They didn't even run it across anybody's desk and say, do you think this works? Do you think
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we need to change it? Or is there any way we can adjust it to make it better? And all they did was
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say, nix this. We're going to do away with energy. We're going to do away with anything that the
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president did at the border. And it's just absolutely amazing to me. Somebody that's not
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been in politics, somebody that's been actually had a real job for the last 40 years, looking from
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the outside in and figuring out, hey, if this is the way it happens, that's the reason I came up
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here. I want to make sure that we try to get as much back as we possibly can or keep as much of
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President Trump's agenda as we can for America, because I'll tell you, they have run our country
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straight into the ground. And it has been a ticking time bomb. Every time you turn around and
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they make a decision. I have to, I'm not going to ask you the question because I wouldn't put you on
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the spot for anything on this. But I would have to think that for you to come, go to Washington,
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to be in the U.S. Senate, dealing with the people that you are, the politicians, the politicos,
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the wannabes. I would have to think at some point in the course of a day that has to be kind of
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stomach turning to a fellow of your experience and your talent suddenly to find yourself in the
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midst of the swamp. Any regrets about running? No, actually, I tell my wife this all the time,
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and she's seen it. She's been up here and seen, been around it. And I'm even more glad now that
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I ran because I think I can make a difference. Just one vote. Now, you know, when you're in the
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House, you've got so many people over there, you don't have an opportunity to get on
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the front stage. In the Senate, you do. And you can, you know, all my life, I've recruited Lou.
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You know, being a college football coach, you go to places, you recruit parents, you recruit kids to
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come to your university to play for you. But you got to sell yourself. And so that's what I've been
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doing. I've been working hard on Joe Manchin and Christian Sinema and Joe Tester, all the moderates
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on the left, just trying to do the best I can to get them to look at our side, look at America's
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side, look at the taxpayer's side of what's going on. And it's hard because they're in
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their own party, but we just try to get them to listen.
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Well, we sure hope you close that deal with Sinema and Manchin. What is your sense of the
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way that's going to go? Because they are, their vote could just change the course of this country
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because we're talking $2 trillion at least that will be added to the national debt. And it'll be
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stimulated money when at the same time, these fools in Washington want to raise interest rates
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because the economy is overstimulated already. This just makes typical sense in Washington terms,
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Yeah. If you just look at this past year, the money that they spent, the 1.9,
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they just out of the chute. Hey, we've got to spend money. That's what they want. We've got to,
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we've got to pay back the, the, the, the people that are blue mayors and blue governors in the
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states that can't run a budget that have wasted all their money and they need money. So they had
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to be paid back for, for voting in these, these people in these blue states. And so they went with
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1.9 tree and say, well, this is a cares act to help COVID. Well, about 10% of that was for
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COVID. The rest of it were payoffs. And so we did that. And then we turn around and we did the
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infrastructure bill. Well, the infrastructure bill, I voted against it too. Everybody said,
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well, it's for infrastructure. Yeah. About 10% of it. The rest of it is for climate change
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and things that we don't need, especially during inflation, especially during a time when we need
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to get people back to work, back in, back in our offices, back in schools, people back in church.
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We didn't need to do that. Now we're turning around in this build back better bill, whatever it is.
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And it is a disaster. And all it is, I continue to give money to either to the unions or give
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money to people that don't need the money, keep people from going to work, try to destroy the
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nuclear family. It's absolutely non-American is what they're trying to do. And I just can't
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understand why there's more Democrats that don't see this, but it's something I guess that they've
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wanted to do for a long time, but we're putting up bills to try to stop it. But our bills kind of,
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they kind of hit the wall, Lou. They hit the wall. Of course, Schumer's not going to put them on the
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floor, but we're going to try as hard as we can. We've got another year because we'll beat them
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pretty bad, especially in the House come next November, if they continue this track that they're
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on. But we got to get the House and the Senate back and hopefully we'll get that done.
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You were talking about selling folks on you. I hope you have the occasion to talk to 13
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House Republicans. They're the ones who actually got that bill passed in the House of Representatives
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because they didn't have the Democratic votes. So they got 13 RINOs, turncoat Republicans to go
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ahead and support it. The Republican Party can be a pretty frustrating outfit, can't it?
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Yeah, well, it can. And sometimes you get frustrated on people that push things across
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and it makes it across the line because of Republicans. It amazes me that sometimes that
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people that you think would vote against something, they vote for it. And, you know, for instance,
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we've got the NDAA up right now. And we put this together and I'm on the Armed Service Committee
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and it's probably the most partisan group up here. There's 24 of us, 12 Republicans, 12 Democrats.
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And we spent a huge amount of the month of July putting it together. And the NDAA is the budget for
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the military. And you have to pass it and you have to get it done. Well, Biden throws his out there
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and he cuts the budget. And of all times to be cutting the military budget when the world is on
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fire and we're the only people that can really save it. So, you know, we work pretty hard on it. We
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got a lot of things in there. Of course, the progressive on progressives, which is about 90 of
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them, which they're Marxist-communist on the House side. They, you know, they're trying to put things
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about climate change and all this and the NDAA. Hey, this is about building a machine to stop
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communism and Marxism and socialism around the world. And they knew that and they tried to stop
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it. But it looks like we're going to be able to push it across the goal line. We've got a lot of
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good things in there. We need to help our military because, as you well know, Lou, that I was in
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Taiwan just a few weeks ago. They're in trouble. I've been to Ukraine about two months ago, speaking
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with our president. They're in trouble. Probably the most dangerous place right now is Iran. And we don't
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even talk about them. And it's just all a ticking time bomb. And if the Democrats and Joe Biden
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don't stand up to this, it is going to be a tough road to hoe. Well, it's so difficult when you think
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that the president of the United States has a discussion recently with President Xi Jinping of
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China and doesn't even acknowledge to the press or any or the American people what they talked
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about. And then he says he's going to be a tough guy and straighten out Putin on the issue of Ukraine.
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They have a meeting. And the first thing he does is wave like he's in a parade to Mr. Putin.
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And this is this is scary stuff watching Joe Biden play leader of the free world, isn't it?
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Well, and it makes you just wonder if you just look back and for some reason, I don't know why
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people I know why some people voted for Joe Biden, but most people, the 75 or so million that voted for
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Donald Trump knows that what's going on right now wouldn't be going on because Donald Trump wouldn't put
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up with it. He had to put his foot down and he'd let them know where we stand right now.
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I'm a United States senator. I have no clue where we stand on where Taiwan sits or where Ukraine sits
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or Iran. We've got a non elected official. What's his name? John Kerry over, you know, trying to make
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a deal with Iran and Israel's over there wondering right now, you know, when they're going to start
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shooting missiles again because, you know, they get attacked almost monthly. And it's just absolutely
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amazing. We have no consistency. We have the we don't have any adults up here running the show
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at the end of the day. And it scares me to death being up here, understanding that we are we're
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sitting on something that could be devastating to the whole world, not just the United States of America
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or Taiwan or Ukraine or or Israel. It's it's it's just devastating. And and yet there is there seems
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to be no no sense of urgency in the part of this administration. There seems to be no bought out
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response to the Russian threats against against the Ukraine, against against Poland that we don't even
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discuss it. Lavrov and our secretary of state, Tony Blinken get together and Blinken acts like he's
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never been in a diplomatic meeting in his life, dealing with one of the most seasoned diplomats in the
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world. And certainly in terms of foreign policy, Sergei Lavrov, it's we're outgunned here and we're outgunned in
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so many ways. Now the Chinese have a working hypersonic missile. The United States, our military
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response, you talk about being on the Armed Services Committee, our top officials in defense
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respond by saying, well, we don't know how they did that. The Russians also have reportedly a significant
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advance in hypersonic missiles as well. And our our our our secretary of defense acts like he just got to
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the county fair. It's very difficult to understand what this administration is doing and doing
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and how we got in this mess. Well, we don't have a plan. We don't have a game plan. And we got four
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or five games going on at the same time, as we said earlier, Israel and Iran. We've got we've got
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Russia and Ukraine. We've got Taiwan and China. It's just and people need to understand this. And I want to get
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this over to people listening to this. We are letting China getting by to get by with murder. We are propping
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up their economy. Folks, they are running. This this is a race and we're not even out of the blocks and they're
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halfway around the track. And that means tough things ahead for the United States of America for
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this world. If we don't wake up and understand that everything that we do to help China is against
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our military, against the things that we want to do. It's propping up their technology. It is absolutely
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out of control. And Xi Jinping, he understands that and he understands, too, that a lot of our corporations
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are in with them. They can't get out and just money's flowing in over there. And it's it's going
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to be tough for us. It's really going to be tough. We're we're writing on our own obituary and we need
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to understand that. And that's the reason we needed somebody like Donald Trump at the helm, because he
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would have stopped this. But right now we have we have no adults that are making tough decisions to stop
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it. And we're going to have to do it in a short period of time. Well, we learned to in support of
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what you just said, we learned that Tim Cook, the CEO of Apple, cut a quarter of a trillion dollar deal
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with the Chinese. The Apple wants to get waivers on the Trump tariff so that they can bring in
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material and parts avoiding that tariff. We know now Elon Musk, he needs graphite. So he wants to bring
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in rare earths and material from China, just get get a waiver from those those tariffs against China.
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And meanwhile, they both companies are working religiously and fervently with the Chinese to
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advance their economy, their interest and and Wall Street. Wall Street is taking U.S. capital and saying
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invest it in China, where they are defaulting right now and property funds, property development
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funds there and companies, which they could bail out, they the Chinese government could bail out,
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but they'd rather have those Yankee dollars without any strings attached. And thank you very much for the
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donation. And this is after all, when we look at the trade deficit, our largest trade deficit is with
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the Chinese record levels and we are bleeding. We are hemorrhaging every day, the wealth and the
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prosperity of Americans because of the globalist elites on Wall Street and in corporate America
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and the Democratic Party. And you've just said it so correctly. We have to take this seriously
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because they mean to win and win at all costs. And it's a cost that the that Americans shouldn't have
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Lou, I was doing some research not to just a few days ago and found out that we have sanctions on Russia
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and some of the companies and those companies are still investing in Wall Street, making
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millions and millions of dollars. And we're supposed to have sanctions on them, but they're still doing it.
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And we're not cutting it off. And it's like I put this bill out called the prohibiting the TSP
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Investment Act, which is you've heard of this where we have all this retirement money, $700 billion
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in pension funds that are being invested in China. What in the world would we put investment money into
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China for? And President Trump stopped it. But we're trying to we're trying to get a bill passed
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that says no matter who's the president, what fool would allow this to happen? And so it's just one
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thing after another that we have to fight in. And going back to the rare earth minerals, Lou,
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we have a lot here in the United States because it's climate change. They won't let us dig for
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them. So therefore, we're having to do things overseas. One of the biggest one of the biggest
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debacles in your and my lifetime in the military was this Afghanistan debacle of how we handled it,
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why we did it. And we just didn't give up one of the biggest and best air bases in the world
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that would have been so functional for our military. We gave up the rare earth minerals
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in Afghanistan that China is going to end up getting. And we didn't look at the future of
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this. We for some reason, this administration looks day to day. Somebody better start looking
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out for 5, 10, 15, 20, 50 years down the road, because things are changing rapidly and you just
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don't do something because you want to do it or because another president did it and you want to
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change it. So we've just got, we got huge problems that we're not digging ourself out of.
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Right. And you know, again, Donald Rumsfeld, a terrific public servant, terrific businessman.
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He had what he called his Rumsfeld's rules. And one of them was on hiring. And I was thinking of this
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when you were talking about recruiting football players, he said, A's always hire A's, B's terms
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of their performance and talent, always hire C's and C's always hire D's. And he said, if we don't
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have A's in government, we're going to be, we're going to be messing up big time. And right now you
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look around at the talent that, uh, that Joe Biden has brought to Washington, DC, they're,
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they're neo-Marxist. They're absolutely unqualified for the jobs they hold and in his cabinet. And I
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don't care what the department is. It's just ridiculous to see what they're doing. Uh, it's a,
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it's a scary time, but I have to tell you, uh, I am again, and I, and every American who knows you,
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uh, is thrilled that you're there and we need, uh, we need you to be selling a lot, a lot of folks.
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Uh, you've got a, you've got an uphill project there to, to educate and to bring some people along,
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but I know you'll do it. I, I just have to ask you, what do you see as the, the most urgent
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priority, uh, that the, uh, for the U S government right now, amongst all of the threats,
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all of the challenges that we face, uh, Senator, what are you most concerned about?
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Well, there's a lot of things urgently that we need to, to correct immediately. Obviously,
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most of those are, uh, foreign relations problems. And we talked about those already,
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and those are going to be huge problems that are just going to get bigger and bigger for the
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United States and for all of our allies. I ran for this job though, uh, Lou, because I saw what
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was happening in education. I've, I've seen this, uh, CRT, the critical race theory, all the things
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that have been taught in our schools for the last 15 years. I told my wife about five years ago,
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I said, people don't really realize what our kids are being taught in our schools. And, uh, it was out
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of control. And, um, so that's one of the reasons that I ran, I wanted to come up here and I'm on the
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education committee and, and, and, and try to put some sense back into what's going on on our campuses.
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And whether it's, uh, uh, elementary school, uh, high schools, uh, junior highs or, uh, in our upper,
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upper education, uh, we have huge problems. And if we don't change the indoctrination of what's going
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on, Lou, uh, of tearing down our, our, uh, our families, uh, you know, the entitlement programs
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that are just absolutely telling moms and dads, you don't have to be married. We'll take care of
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you. Uh, all those things that are being taught in our schools are just going to continue to mount.
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So that has to be corrected. And it's got to be corrected soon. The teachers unions have absolutely
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killed this country. Uh, and we saw that, we saw that through the pandemic of them, not,
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not wanting to work. Yeah. It's, as you say, it's getting clearer and clearer by the day.
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And I, and I couldn't agree with you more about education because education is the great equalizer
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in our society. It always has been public education because, uh, a man or a woman who comes out of our
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public schools, they have, they have talent, they have intelligence and a strong work ethic. Uh,
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they work hard and that's the American dream. And that public education system is so critical at
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every level, uh, K through 12 through universities and colleges and the American family. My gosh,
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we're, it seems like both parties, frankly, uh, are not focusing on the family, uh, and supporting
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them. Uh, Republicans give it lip service, but then go along with a, uh, an act like, uh, the Biden bill
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back better. Uh, and these, it's just, people have got to think about what we're doing here
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because this is a, a nation of great Americans. I mean, men and women who work hard every day
00:26:22.700
and they can't get representation in Washington, DC. And that's, that's a crying shame.
00:26:29.360
Well, the education is a key to the, uh, to our future, uh, this country. And that's the reason that
00:26:35.520
we've always been ahead of everybody else, but I'll tell you this, we're 37th in the world now in
00:26:41.140
math. Uh, think about that 37th in the world. That is embarrassing and that's not acceptable.
00:26:47.000
And if that continues to go the way it's going, then this country is not going to be near as
00:26:52.360
successful as it would, it could be. But I used to tell our, our, all my players that I, that I
00:26:57.100
coach Lewis said, listen, this, everybody thinks this country owes you something. This country doesn't
00:27:01.020
owe you one dang thing other than an opportunity, uh, opportunity to pick what you want to do,
00:27:06.880
work towards it, put your work ethic to it. Now you might get knocked down, but the country gives
00:27:12.120
you a chance to get back up off your feet and go again. No other country does that. And we better
00:27:18.040
start teaching that to our kids because we're losing work ethic. We're losing the sight of a goal
00:27:23.100
in front of us to make this country better because these young kids have to understand that they will
00:27:29.200
run this country in the very near future. And this generation coming up don't have those same
00:27:34.420
ideas. No, you're exactly right. Uh, instead of being taught to, to be proud of all this country,
00:27:40.840
uh, has achieved and accomplished. And by the way, we've not only, uh, put together opportunity
00:27:49.020
for all Americans, uh, but we have, we have created opportunity and wealth, uh, for most of the entire
00:27:57.140
world. And we don't get credit for it. Instead, we have people who want to like, you know, I won't
00:28:03.320
go into like who, but the fact is we've got some folks who are not grateful for their good fortune.
00:28:09.800
Uh, they just want to run down the country that made that opportunity possible. And it's just,
00:28:14.680
it's, it's a terrible thing, but thank goodness. We've got great Americans, uh, working in this
00:28:20.820
country, uh, doing everything they can to, to make this a better nation and, uh, uh, and make sure that
00:28:27.860
everybody has an opportunity. And, uh, thank goodness for you, Senator. Uh, we've enjoyed talking
00:28:34.140
with you. I hope you'll come back soon and I wish you all the best. And, you know, if you happen to
00:28:39.980
run into Mitt Romney, would you do me a favor? Just tell him hello for me.
00:28:43.840
I'll do that, Lou. And, you know, we've talked about this country and about the,
00:28:50.380
uh, a lot of things that we're having problems with, with all these problems, we're still the
00:28:54.280
greatest country on the face of the earth. And we want to keep it that way. We need to be going
00:28:59.080
North, not South though. And with this administration, we're not going, we're, we're,
00:29:03.360
we're not moving North. We're not moving to the positive. We're moving to the negative.
00:29:06.880
We can't stand much more of that because even great countries have gone down and we've seen that
00:29:11.860
in our history book. So everybody keep praying and, and doing things to make this country better.
00:29:18.460
And, and, uh, I think that, uh, we will, we just got to work through some tough times as we're in
00:29:24.140
right now. Well, again, we're glad you're there for these tough times and we thank you so much,
00:29:30.160
uh, into what you said, amen. And I want to say, God bless you, Senator. And we wish you all the very
00:29:36.660
best, uh, great success. Thank you, sir. Thank you, Lou. Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas.
00:29:42.060
We're coming right back with more of the great America show. Stay with us.
00:29:47.320
We all know this is the greatest country on earth. And we also know it can be a country
00:29:52.920
occasionally filled with challenges and uncertainty, sometimes more frequently than
00:29:59.160
occasionally. I don't know if you saw all the video on Twitter and elsewhere lately of quite a
00:30:05.160
large crowd of men in blue jackets, khaki clad, carrying shields, some wearing what looked like
00:30:11.120
hockey pads on their lower legs, carrying American flags and some upside down to signify distress.
00:30:19.420
Now, I don't know about you, but there are very few things symbolically, at least that annoy me,
00:30:24.900
anger me, uh, like seeing an American flag upside down, uh, signifying whatever the bearer of that flag
00:30:33.340
intends to communicate. I get very, very angry, to be honest. And all of these characters were
00:30:41.180
parading at the Lincoln monument. The big argument on Twitter and social media though, has been,
00:30:46.960
were they quote white nationalists protesting? What? I don't know. Or were they quote FBI agents
00:30:54.300
trying to, I guess, provoke Russian agents or white nationalists to go join them? Whatever.
00:31:01.240
It was a sad, pathetic, uh, demonstration that they put on and folks are getting a little worked
00:31:08.460
up over the seemingly manufactured alarms raised by Dr. Fauci again, mayor Bill de Blasio again,
00:31:15.340
and the Biden administration over the sudden appearance of the Omicron variant of the China
00:31:21.440
virus. Fauci was so worked up. In fact, at one point he slipped and he referred to the original
00:31:27.240
virus and the quote unquote Wuhan virus, uh, as the Wuhan virus. Shame on you, Dr. Fauci for letting
00:31:35.280
the truth slip out about the origin of the so-called COVID-19 virus. The virus, which was discovered in
00:31:42.800
South Africa and is now in at least 18 countries, including the United States, has to this point,
00:31:49.460
uh, produced only mild symptoms, but appears to be highly transmissible. We know very little about it
00:31:56.400
that these, uh, at this early stage so far, and it is of course, early days, it appears we have more
00:32:03.320
to fear from the melodramatic leftists and the world health organization than we do this particular
00:32:08.820
variant. Some bad news for the Biden white house, which means good news for America. Mr. Biden doesn't
00:32:15.820
have enough votes to pass his build back better colossus of a spending program that would have added
00:32:22.260
trillions of dollars to our national debt. At least reason has prevailed at the last moment
00:32:29.140
on Capitol Hill, or so it seems as of now. We're always working here to get to the truth behind
00:32:37.320
much of what goes on in Washington, on Capitol Hill, in the swamp. And to that end, the Great America
00:32:43.180
Show brings you my perspective and opinions on events, issues, news, critical knowledge for you
00:32:48.900
and our fellow citizens. And we of course bring you guests whose perspectives and views are important
00:32:54.680
to enlarging the body of public knowledge. Today, we're delighted to have with us one of the most
00:33:00.420
popular businessmen in the country. You see and hear him, I'm sure almost every day, he's on radio
00:33:06.360
and TV commercials more than anyone I've ever seen. The founder and the CEO of MyPillow, and he is a
00:33:14.160
passionate patriot and citizen. Let's bring in now my friend, Mike Lindell. Mike, great to have you with
00:33:20.380
us here on the Great America Show. Oh, thanks for having me on, Louis. Let's start right now with the
00:33:27.680
issue of popularity of businessmen in this country. You have encountered more resistance to your political
00:33:37.540
views and statements than anyone I've seen, to the point that people have actually blacked you out,
00:33:45.340
that is radio stations, TV stations, networks. Where do you stand right now? Because it seems to me
00:33:52.740
I'm seeing you in a lot of commercial. I don't see any blackout underway right now. Am I wrong?
00:33:59.680
No, you're right. And this goes back to, you know, it's, you know, when I got behind
00:34:04.540
our president, Donald Trump back in 16, I was attacked then, but it was just, it was all the
00:34:11.520
way through to the, when I spoke at the Rose Garden, when I actually went on your show after
00:34:16.160
the Rose Garden speech, when I said, we need to get back in the word and spend time with our kids
00:34:20.780
and reading our Bibles. And, and boy, I was attacked then. And, and, but nothing like what
00:34:26.820
happened last January when I, when I had, uh, um, evidence of, uh, of election fraud crimes. And then
00:34:34.260
I was attacked in all the box stores attack. They took down my pillow and, and then it got to the
00:34:40.260
point this summer where just because I was going to have an event and I put out an ad all over,
00:34:48.020
you know, all in every, every platform, ABC, NBC, Fox, uh, OAN, Newsmax, CNN, MSNBC. And I put this
00:34:57.500
out there and only one station. And that was Fox said, no, you can't run this ad. So at that point
00:35:04.500
I took down my ads. I said, you're not going to be a part of this cancel culture. I don't care how
00:35:09.080
much money I've taken. Cause to me, it's about saving our country. It's not, I won't have a company
00:35:14.580
anyway, if, uh, if we don't save our country. And so I couldn't believe that they were the only ones
00:35:20.140
that took, that did not run this ad. And that's every, every left foot, left, right channel didn't
00:35:24.440
matter. And, and then it got to the point where they, um, we went back and forth and I was telling
00:35:30.340
about my Frank speech platform, frank speech.com. And, and I put that in the ad. Thank you for
00:35:35.700
supporting that by my pillows here. We went back and forth like five different times. And they finally,
00:35:41.020
they said, you can't use the word Frank or Frank speech in these ads. And so now, so now I have to
00:35:47.540
bring them from, from Fox to my pillow and then over to Frank speech. And to me it's, and, uh, so yeah,
00:35:54.760
there's ads, the ads are out everywhere, but it is a shame where you can't run an ad direct, like say
00:36:02.980
just to advertise another, a platform or an event in our country. If that's what it's getting to,
00:36:08.920
that's, uh, that's sad. Well, it's what it's leading to. And, uh, it's where it's led us to
00:36:15.520
this point, at least, uh, the issues, the controversies around the 2020 election. Uh,
00:36:23.880
and I, and I want to remind everybody of my position as we go into this issue, my position
00:36:29.040
has been throughout that there are huge questions about the irregularities, the anomalies called them
00:36:35.320
what you will, uh, but also about what we watched that night, uh, November, uh, third, uh, in which
00:36:45.480
we're sitting there watching things like in, uh, Wayne County of Michigan, uh, people putting up
00:36:52.100
cardboard. So people couldn't see, see in, in Philadelphia, in Georgia, not permitting Republicans
00:36:58.560
into the polling place. There were all sorts of these things that occurred. Now, do I know that
00:37:03.640
that rose to the level of changing the outcome of that election? I, Mike, I don't, I really don't,
00:37:08.800
but I do know this, that when we see as much that went wrong in that election, and there is no
00:37:15.540
investigation, a adamant refusal on the part of the FBI, the justice department, state, uh, investigators
00:37:22.640
themselves and law enforcement for no one, no one to investigate what happened with all of those ballots
00:37:29.740
that were being transported by the postal service, for example. I mean, that's outrageous. And as a
00:37:36.100
result, here we are, uh, more than a year later now, uh, with half the country still wanting to know
00:37:43.700
what happened and why all we want is the truth. And what we got, uh, was, uh, you know, I, I, an iron
00:37:52.440
curtain being dropped around, uh, our electoral system, uh, and, and that goes on, uh, your thoughts
00:38:00.280
about where we are and, and what's going on. Well, I, our number one, our number one threat to our
00:38:05.940
country is the media because what they have done, they've went, I call it going Fox on you. Uh, don't
00:38:11.700
go Fox on me. And, uh, and I've got that news, man, all conservative media has not wanted to talk
00:38:18.420
about the 2020 election. Um, right now, Lou, there is so many things that are manifested
00:38:24.460
from that with investigations. I'll give you an example. The race, the Racine County Sheriff's
00:38:31.160
Department in Wisconsin just finished a six month investigation of stuff that was being done in
00:38:37.420
nursing homes to get people's votes. That was over 60,000 votes and was Donald Trump only lost
00:38:43.440
Wisconsin by 20,000. Now that the racing County Sheriff, this is a sheriff's department, uh,
00:38:50.480
recommend to the attorney, to the County attorney now to press charges against the WEC in Wisconsin,
00:38:56.860
which is the Wisconsin election commission. Now this is in the Supreme court complaint,
00:39:02.420
which a lot of you out there probably don't even know that there's a Supreme court complaint ready for
00:39:06.960
the AGs, the attorneys general to sign in our country and get this to the Supreme court.
00:39:12.600
In this complaint is all thing, all examples like what's going on in Wisconsin. These are facts.
00:39:19.640
The Maricopa audit that came out 100%, 30 some thousand people that they use their names have
00:39:25.620
voted twice that pulls down those electors. I mean, all five States in question are, this is still going
00:39:32.300
on and it's massive. There's audits going on in every state. There's so much going on, but the,
00:39:38.180
the media does not, does not report these things, these, what do you call good things? And it's not
00:39:44.740
Lou, it's not, um, uh, you know, 70, 70 or 80, 80 million people that have questions. It's,
00:39:51.960
it's like 200 million people. And when I say that every day that goes by where you see the
00:39:57.960
manifestations of the 2020 election, when you talk about like, like, um, mandates and all these
00:40:04.120
things going on, Afghanistan, all these things, people are open now to, I'm talking people, not
00:40:09.900
parties. They're open to seeing the truth. They, they want to hear the truth. They want to, you
00:40:14.740
know, they need to demand the truth. Can you imagine having another, the 2022 election, we've got a
00:40:20.700
complete replacement for, for, uh, an election process that we put up on Frank speech.com. And this
00:40:27.120
has been worked on by a retired military and everything for replacement of this. And the people
00:40:32.420
don't hear about this. They need to hear that there is hope, Lou. Uh, absolutely. Uh, if you're
00:40:39.060
an American, uh, hope is a birthright, uh, and truth, uh, should be the, uh, you know, the absolute
00:40:46.760
responsibility of every citizen, uh, both to demand the truth from their government, uh, and for that
00:40:52.420
government to certainly deliver it. That's not happening. Unfortunately, our government is, uh,
00:40:58.140
is, has decided, uh, that is somehow some sort of authoritarian institution that doesn't have to
00:41:06.260
respond to the public. Uh, I think that's going to change. I hope in 2022 and certainly in 2024,
00:41:13.060
uh, let me, let me turn to, uh, Frank speech because you've been, that's the people have tried
00:41:20.220
in media are trying to block that out. Tell us about Frank speech, uh, what you're trying to get,
00:41:26.880
uh, get going and how it's, how it's going. Well, I started this spring when I realized that they
00:41:33.520
were not just, they weren't trying to cancel. They were trying to destroy my pillow, my income,
00:41:38.120
everything, the money cancel out the money. But in reality, I go, wait a minute, they're trying to
00:41:43.560
cancel my voice and all voices. You had podcasters get canceled. You had radio shows get canceled.
00:41:51.220
Uh, Lou, you got canceled. I mean, there's different people that got canceled that we were used to hearing
00:41:55.620
their voice. And all of a sudden there, you don't hear that. You don't hear anymore. Well, I said,
00:41:59.820
you know what? I need to start a platform where they won't be able to cancel me, whether it was by
00:42:04.780
Apple or whoever stopping or Amazon's servers or whatever. So I put to, I put tens of millions of
00:42:11.000
dollars into this platform, which now has manifested to about 8 million people watching it. We just had a,
00:42:17.780
we just had a thanks-a-thon over Thanksgiving where we're putting out news every day. And, uh,
00:42:23.940
and so our voices don't go out forever. Lou, I compared it to, here's what I always compare it
00:42:29.260
to. You know, back in the day, the old black and white TVs, all of a sudden you turn them off and
00:42:33.700
go down to that little tiny blue dot. And then you turn them back on just to see the dot or the TV
00:42:39.340
come back to life. And I, and I, I compare that to our voices here in this country. If you, you know,
00:42:46.280
um, I mean, there's a, there's a lot of cases now against for lawfare that scared that
00:42:50.960
it's called lawfare. It's where, um, Dominion and other, other voting companies or other machines
00:42:58.040
went after all these different outlets. And, and there's, um, we're in a case now, a couple of
00:43:03.700
cases, which, but the public probably doesn't even hear about it, uh, where citizens rose up and
00:43:09.000
went after those machines. Cause they were in fear. They got sent threatening letters, not to talk
00:43:13.700
about the 2020 election. They went and got home security system. Well, Alan Dershowitz is one of those
00:43:19.260
attorneys. And he said, it's going to be the most important. These are the most important cases in
00:43:24.740
history for our first amendment rights to free speech. When you can't talk about machines or
00:43:30.020
vaccines anymore. Um, you can't talk about both sides of issues. Uh, we've got a big problem in
00:43:36.080
our country. And then it's, we skipped right over socialism to communism then, and they're just
00:43:40.980
suppressing everything. That's what Frank speech is. It's to me, it's the, it's the, it's, I'm bringing
00:43:47.280
a podcast, so I'm bringing radio stations over everybody over. So they have a platform where
00:43:51.920
they can speak out to all, all issues. Yep. You know, in support of what you're saying,
00:43:57.820
uh, when we started the great America show, this podcast is absolutely independent. We didn't team
00:44:04.800
up with a big media company, uh, because I want it, uh, you know, I've, uh, if it's, if we get
00:44:12.660
canceled, it's going to be because we failed at our mission of informing the public. Um,
00:44:17.280
we're going to, uh, politically, we're not going to be shut down because, uh, we know,
00:44:22.740
we know who runs this thing and it isn't, uh, a big media company. It's not a left-wing corporate,
00:44:28.740
uh, uh, organization. Uh, it's not a one world outfit. You know, we're 100%, 100% American,
00:44:37.340
uh, and absolute, uh, defense and advocacy of the American citizen and family, uh, and this great
00:44:44.720
nation. And, uh, if, if that doesn't work, uh, then, you know, so be it, but we're not going to
00:44:51.080
be canceled because somebody doesn't like what I said, or a guest said, uh, it's just not going to
00:44:56.220
happen. Right. Right. Right. And that's the way, and that's what we need, Lou. We need, we need like
00:45:02.260
you and others to go out and don't let your, you know, if they cancel the voice over here, we've
00:45:07.600
got to, you've got to find alternative ways. It's, you know, what I said, this is where we're in
00:45:11.720
Lou. Do you remember the old commercial was a sham, a shampoo commercial back in the day? It said,
00:45:16.620
and they tell two friends and they tell two friends and so on and so on. It was a very famous
00:45:21.720
commercial. And I, a few, like about 10, 15 years ago, I was telling that, you know, with my
00:45:26.400
advertising, I said, you know, nowadays they tell two friends and they tell 500 friends and they tell
00:45:31.700
5,000, tell 5 million, tell 50 million. Well, they took that away, Lou. That's what they've
00:45:36.980
been doing this last year is they've been going, instead of you being to have our reach, they wanted
00:45:42.740
to bring it in to where you are only telling your list inner circle of friends, right? That's what
00:45:48.340
they wanted to reverse that. And they did it with social media suppression, mainstream media. Um, and
00:45:54.780
they've even attacked our conservative media because they're afraid to speak out on certain things
00:46:00.080
or they get sued law fair or they get, or you're a conspiracy theory guy. Like, uh, I've been called
00:46:06.380
that once or twice. You know what I mean? It's, you know, a conspiracy theory is a view of something,
00:46:13.120
a view of something as a citizen's right. Uh, and it's, and to label, uh, a, a view, a conspiracy theory,
00:46:22.400
uh, so that you can, uh, cancel, uh, that person or that person's view is outrageous. Uh, and we've
00:46:29.600
got so, uh, the country is so divided, uh, that this government of ours is getting away with things
00:46:36.380
that were, were impossible to contemplate even a decade ago. Uh, we're watching the left, uh, uh,
00:46:43.380
control free speech, uh, in too many cases. We're seeing some encouraging developments in that
00:46:49.340
regard. Frank speech, uh, dot com. It's, uh, you know, all the person has to do is go to
00:46:55.100
frank speech.com. Uh, is that not correct? That's all. That's right. It's really easy. You go there.
00:47:01.140
Uh, we can't, we, I have my own server, everything, and you can go there. You can go down to the Supreme
00:47:06.420
court complaint. You can see that you can, you can email your governor. I mean, your attorney general
00:47:11.520
to get on board. You've got the, um, the one, one of the things we have is the cause of America.
00:47:16.700
I can show you what, what I've done. I became like a hub, which goes into 50 or 48 states right
00:47:22.600
now, or 47, I believe, but there's great things there. And you can see the, the news of, you know,
00:47:27.660
all your, um, we have many, many, many, uh, podcasters and, and, uh, YouTube and, uh, that
00:47:34.500
used to be on YouTube got canceled there. There now you put in a search and find your favorite
00:47:38.820
person. You can watch it there. So it's a big, it's, uh, it's a way to, uh, um, and you can see
00:47:45.320
the hope I can't stress that enough, Lou. Uh, you can see that there are things getting
00:47:50.100
done and like the replacement for the machines for the next election. And, and there, and
00:47:55.480
you can see, cause so many people are living in fear right now, but you know, you've, you
00:48:01.580
have not been afraid and, uh, you've been fearless despite being under attack from all directions.
00:48:07.140
I want to get your reaction to the president announcing he was going to take public through
00:48:12.580
a SPAC, uh, his social media, uh, site, uh, worth maybe around a billion dollars. That's
00:48:18.920
some of the discussion about what the valuation would be. And now all of a sudden the SEC wants
00:48:24.980
it to investigate, uh, the former president. I mean, there isn't anything the left won't
00:48:31.720
do to hound harass and try to shut this man down. And the American people, they think that
00:48:40.600
we're all fools. We, we see what this is. I mean, two impeachments, uh, FBI investigation
00:48:47.820
after FBI investigation, New York, Manhattan DA investigations, it goes on and on. And the
00:48:54.900
fact of the matter is it's nothing more than political persecution. And what is outrageous
00:48:59.660
to me, Mike is they're getting away with it because the, the conservatives in this country,
00:49:05.700
the, the, the, the great citizens of this country are not demanding that they shut this
00:49:11.060
down. Well, well, you know what, Lou, I don't believe that the, the average citizen is hearing
00:49:16.500
everything. And I blame your news maxes and Foxes of the world. I really do. Uh, this, for
00:49:22.060
example, I just got on, uh, Salem media now put up today. Mike Gallagher did a, uh, a show
00:49:28.860
with Sharona Bishop. She's just America's mom. She got her door bashed in by the FBI with a
00:49:34.560
battering ram with guns drawn, no charges. They came in there. She was homeschooling her child
00:49:39.660
because she speaks out for, uh, um, for the, uh, on the school board stuff in Colorado and against
00:49:45.600
their secretary of state on many issues, including election fraud. And they're trying to, they're
00:49:50.920
trying to demonize and say that anybody, any Trump supporter, uh, back in the day is, uh, this is
00:49:57.760
coming from, uh, Griswold, the secretary of state in Colorado saying that, and she's ahead of all
00:50:03.400
these other secretary of states of the Democrat party. And she's trying to say, if you're, if you
00:50:09.200
are for them, you are the enemy of the people and you are, and you are, um, trying to, um, um, you
00:50:14.920
know, rise up and do something terrible when they're in fact, they're already doing something terrible.
00:50:19.860
That's beyond anything we've ever seen. We skipped right over socialism to communism. I do believe
00:50:25.940
Lou that the people, if they know about start finding out about these atrocities, that was four
00:50:31.220
different raids in Colorado. And now they've done it in three other States, anybody, America's moms,
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and he's speaking up, uh, for what they were trying to speak up. They want to scare them right
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away, scare them into, so they don't, so they don't say anything. So they don't speak out,
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but you're exactly right. It was, uh, uh, the conservative. I, I just believe that they're not
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hearing. I believe they can't. I said this before I said, you know what? Uh, if you're going to fear
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now, if you don't just have fear of the Lord and don't fear anything now, what are you waiting for
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out there at people? Because there it's raining. It's like saving money for a rainy day. You're
00:51:06.820
going to save your courage for a rainy day. I'm telling you, it's pouring. Like you've never
00:51:11.700
poured. It's, it's, this is the, this is it. I mean, if you don't stand up now, then two years
00:51:18.340
from now or a year from now, uh, you can't look back and say, well, I wish I'd have done something.
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And then they asked Sharona Bishop today on the, on the show, they said, would you regret anything
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that you've done to stand up? And she says only that I didn't start sooner. All right. Well, and
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it's a great lesson for all of us. And it's one of the things that we talk about here. Uh, everybody's
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talking about, uh, not everybody, but, uh, a lot of the strategists and so forth are talking about,
00:51:44.720
well, you know, in 2022, it's got, we're going to get this fixed, this fixed. And what I hear them
00:51:49.720
saying is they're going to put up some rhinos who are Republicans, uh, in name only, uh, which is,
00:51:56.280
has created immense problems for the Republican party. And I think for the Republic itself,
00:52:00.620
frankly, because we cannot count on the people elected to represent us, to represent the American
00:52:07.160
people instead of, uh, all of these varied interests. I mean, the rhinos are basically aligned
00:52:12.300
with the democratic party, which is aligned with corporate America. Uh, and, and they are working
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against, uh, this great Republic and the American people. And if people are not good, the other
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issue for me too, Mike is the American family. I I'm all about the American middle-class working
00:52:31.060
men and women, small business people. You don't have to worry about big business. They'll take
00:52:34.960
care of themselves. Don't worry. Uh, but small business in this country, and you were once a
00:52:41.040
small business, uh, it's just, I can't believe what they're doing. Uh, the Biden administration
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in, you know, in less than a year has created more trouble for more people than I ever imagined.
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And I was never a fan of his, but I never dreamed he could be this destructive of this great country.
00:53:02.040
Right. Well, I don't, I don't know. It's not, it's not just him. I believe the, uh, the CCP got
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involved in this election. And I, it's like our great president, Donald Trump said, well, you know,
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I was talking to him a couple of weeks ago and he was talking to some people and they said,
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they asked him about 2022 and 2024. He said, there's not going to be a 2022 or 2024 unless you
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fix 2021. And he said, look how much damage has been done to our country in a short 10 months,
00:53:31.400
in a short 10 months, which I want to bring up real quick here. So everybody knows you can go
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everybody. You can go to frankspeech.com. We have, or in the, to replace the election system,
00:53:43.260
it's not going to take much because it's, they're all done at the County level and at that level.
00:53:48.420
And we have a whole plan laid out with this new, which I think whether you're a person,
00:53:53.360
whether you're a Democrat or Republican or independent, whatever you are, you're going to
00:53:56.900
want this, you're going to want to see this replacement because we can't get our country back
00:54:02.640
without a, an election that is a hundred percent, um, on right. And you can sit, we can talk about
00:54:09.900
the rhinos and all these corrupt people that came up in the, that have bubbled up in the Republican
00:54:14.620
party. Um, but we have to be able to elect officials, people that are for the people. And
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that has to be done fairly. And, and right now, I think a lot of this, this has all been on God's
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timing. I really believe this everybody. And because think if they would have, we'd have last,
00:54:33.220
let's say last year, oh yeah, selection problem. Let's flip the, let's flip it to, um, to Donald
00:54:37.840
Trump. Well, you know what? A lot of people back then really thought they won. And another thing is
00:54:42.720
we went by, by waiting, by waiting now, so many things have boiled up and you know, the, the, uh,
00:54:49.920
these two Republicans that were corrupt or your might, your social media people that your owners
00:54:54.740
of these platforms that were corrupt and these things are getting up. So I do believe Lou,
00:55:00.600
that we get through all this and it's going to be a great uniting of our country. I don't believe
00:55:05.340
we have a divided country at all. I believe it's the media doing that. And we're not a racist country
00:55:10.640
that a hundred percent. No, that was, that was, wait a minute. Haven't you, wait a minute, Mike,
00:55:15.280
you, you said we're not a racist country. My goodness. You haven't seen the latest NFL commercials.
00:55:21.580
Have you, uh, or read the messages on the back of the helmets? It's, you know, it isn't say
00:55:26.620
join together and God bless America. It's, uh, you know, uh, we're all done this together.
00:55:33.100
Uh, this, you know, it's just some of the most, uh, language that you can imagine. And the tone
00:55:41.280
of these people lecturing American citizens, it's outrageous and it's got to stop because that's the
00:55:47.240
voice of business. Those commercials that you watch in those football games and in the basketball game
00:55:52.580
are your favorite series. That's the voice of business. And I have to tell you that voice
00:55:58.740
tells you everything you need to know about big business right now. They're authoritarian and they
00:56:04.040
are not thinking America first and they're not acting America first. And that is just one of the
00:56:10.600
many, uh, reasons we miss, uh, president Donald Trump, Mike Lindell. I, I, I, I'm just delighted
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to spend some time talking with you. I want to give you the quick last word here, and I want to invite
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you back. I hope you'll come on the, on the show, uh, often and regularly. Well, thank you. And I'd like
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to tell everyone out there that, uh, to not live in fear and to, to just go out there and, and we are
00:56:37.360
going to, this is going to be Lou. I really believe this is the greatest time ever to be alive, that
00:56:42.380
we are part of the greatest revival in history for our Lord and savior, Jesus Christ. And I believe
00:56:48.100
that people, more and more people, they don't come to the Lord unless, uh, things are going bad. Well,
00:56:53.200
things are pretty bad out there right now, but I want to tell you, there's so many great things going
00:56:57.020
on and we will get through this and it's going to be a great uniting of our country, which will once
00:57:02.420
again be one nation under God. Mike, I don't often use one word for, uh, to conclude, uh, an
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interview, but let me say it this way. Amen. And add very quickly, three more words. God bless you.
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Well, thank you. Thanks so much, Mike. Thank you. Mike Glendale. Join us again tomorrow for the
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great America podcast. Stay in the fight. Truth, justice, and the American way will prevail against