The Great America Show - September 30, 2023


BIDEN IS CHINESE ASSET


Episode Stats

Length

35 minutes

Words per Minute

153.63126

Word Count

5,481

Sentence Count

335

Misogynist Sentences

2

Hate Speech Sentences

33


Summary

House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer sends out more subpoenas targeting Joe Biden and his brother, James Biden, as part of the Biden impeachment investigation. Fox Business hosted the second Republican presidential debate and it was roundly criticized. Voters are saying in poll after poll that President Donald Trump is the clear frontrunner and will be the 2024 nominee.


Transcript

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00:01:15.020 Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs and welcome to The Great America Show.
00:01:26.180 Great to have you with us.
00:01:28.080 House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer conducting his first impeachment inquiry hearing this week.
00:01:33.940 He is full steam ahead.
00:01:35.580 After wrapping up the hearing Thursday afternoon, the committee sent out more subpoenas.
00:01:40.560 Two of those subpoenas targeting Hunter Biden and President Biden's brother, James Biden.
00:01:47.340 Chairman Comer wants all personal and business bank records for the two men regarding all overseas business dealings by October 12th.
00:01:56.200 Comer also says it's likely he will subpoena President Biden's bank records as well because the committee suspects there's a direct tie to him.
00:02:04.960 Well, it's looking like we're going to be asking for his bank records.
00:02:09.620 I mean, all roads lead to Joe Biden from day one.
00:02:12.420 This has been an investigation of Joe Biden, not his son.
00:02:15.900 His son is a key central figure because we believe Hunter was the front man for the Biden family influence scheme.
00:02:22.260 We've already proven that this family was influence peddling the media and and the Biden said that wasn't true.
00:02:27.960 I don't think now they're disputing that they're moving the goalposts saying, well, now you haven't proven.
00:02:33.580 Yeah, maybe they maybe the president's son was selling the illusion of access.
00:02:37.800 But Joe Biden never benefited personally from that.
00:02:40.880 So that's where our investigation is now, because there's overwhelming evidence that would point to the fact that Joe Biden was receiving benefits from his family's influence peddling team.
00:02:51.120 And that's where we continue to investigate.
00:02:52.820 At this point, it is Godspeed, Chairman Comer.
00:02:57.220 Fox Business hosted the second Republican presidential debate, and it was roundly criticized.
00:03:03.580 Voters are saying in poll after poll that President Donald Trump is the clear frontrunner and will be the 2024 nominee.
00:03:12.080 Debate viewers have all but made up their minds as well.
00:03:15.380 The second debate ratings tanked, losing more than three and a half million viewers from the first debate.
00:03:20.360 The total audience, about nine and a half million, down 27 percent from the first debate.
00:03:26.660 No candidate so far has set themselves apart from the rhinos and neocons in the race.
00:03:32.100 Ron DeSantis, who is struggling mightily, tried a new debate tactic.
00:03:36.640 He went after President Trump for adding to the national debt.
00:03:40.500 DeSantis neglected to mention the trillions of dollars Trump was forced to spend on the American people suffering from the China virus
00:03:47.200 and to stimulate a virus-depressed economy.
00:03:50.900 DeSantis looked foolish trying to boost his poll numbers on President Trump's back.
00:03:56.760 Where's Joe Biden?
00:03:57.980 He's completely missing in action from leadership.
00:04:00.680 And you know who else is missing in action?
00:04:03.120 Donald Trump is missing in action.
00:04:05.120 He should be on this stage tonight.
00:04:07.160 He owes it to you to defend his record where they added $7.8 trillion to the debt.
00:04:13.800 That set the stage for the inflation that we have.
00:04:16.680 Now, I can tell you this as governor of Florida, we cut taxes, we ran surpluses, we've paid down over 25 percent of our state debt,
00:04:24.220 and I vetoed wasteful spending when it came to my desk.
00:04:26.900 And as your president, when they send me a bloating spending bill that's going to cause your prices to go up,
00:04:32.120 I'm going to take out this veto pen and I'm going to send it right back to them.
00:04:36.120 It looks like DeSantis' days in the race may be numbered now,
00:04:39.840 and he probably should get back to Florida and get back to work.
00:04:42.940 That's the job he signed up for, and for which he is being paid, after all.
00:04:48.320 The Marxist-Dem Biden regime is looking to accommodate China once again.
00:04:53.060 The United States Space Force commander, General Chance Saltzman,
00:04:56.660 this week said collaborating on space exploration with the Communist Chinese Party
00:05:01.760 would reduce tensions between the U.S. and China.
00:05:05.540 I'll bet it would.
00:05:06.580 Think of all they could steal.
00:05:08.060 The general has asked the White House to open up lines with China in order to make this happen.
00:05:13.980 As the final decision, of course, is that of the puppet president,
00:05:17.800 this madness just might happen, given Biden's track record of bowing and caving to China.
00:05:24.440 Let's bring in our guests today to take up the rising threat from China against the United States,
00:05:29.640 the madness of the Biden regime.
00:05:32.120 And with us today, Gordon Chang and Tony Schaefer.
00:05:35.120 Gentlemen, as always, thank you for being with us.
00:05:37.340 We have a lot to talk about, to analyze, to contemplate.
00:05:41.460 I want to begin with the absolutely astonishing news that the Biden administration
00:05:46.120 wants to collaborate with the Communist Chinese space program.
00:05:49.920 How in the world does the Biden regime think that is a bright idea to work with Chinese communists
00:05:56.940 who are already stealing $600 billion a year in military technology and intellectual property from us?
00:06:03.680 $600 billion a year who are threatening Taiwan and insisting on world domination.
00:06:10.700 Gordon, what do you make of it?
00:06:12.280 This is incomprehensible, though.
00:06:14.800 So, you know, from any different perspective, this is just wrong, immoral, misguided, dangerous.
00:06:23.300 You know, we start from a very simple premise, and that is, look, first of all,
00:06:28.300 the Chinese regime that Biden wants to cooperate with is committing genocide and crimes against humanity.
00:06:34.540 Plus, in addition, they are building their military to kill Americans,
00:06:39.140 and they've already killed Americans with fentanyl and with COVID.
00:06:43.120 So this is morally wrong, even if you could dream up some answers why this might make sense from a strategic point of view.
00:06:51.280 But, of course, it doesn't make sense from a strategic point of view.
00:06:54.800 This is just the Biden administration, I suppose.
00:06:58.660 And it's really hard for me to put my, you know, to put my head along with theirs.
00:07:03.580 But, you know, maybe they think that they can get by politically,
00:07:07.620 that they can show the American people that they have cooperative relations with China.
00:07:12.020 But I'm sure the American people realize this is wrong, wrong, wrong.
00:07:18.640 I have the feeling that Neville Chamberlain is rolling over wherever he is now spinning as a result of this conversation
00:07:26.940 between the by the U.S. Space Command.
00:07:30.040 And I want to quote, Tony, the U.S. Space Force commander, who is a brilliant military man,
00:07:37.780 a great geopolitical analyst and contemplative thinker for all things military and strategic.
00:07:47.060 He is General Chance Saltzman, and he said Monday, collaborating on space exploration with China would reduce tensions between the two countries.
00:08:00.100 Where does the Biden administration find such idiots?
00:08:05.560 Well, you know, Lou, I think Chance must have been watching an old 1970s foreign movie with John Holmes
00:08:13.220 and figured out that's the best way to establish foreign policy, to bend over, so to speak.
00:08:17.200 And that's what's going on here, because this is insane.
00:08:19.760 I mean, let's be painfully clear to Gordon's point.
00:08:23.320 At this point, I was just talking to someone today who said space command's biggest challenge right now, Lou,
00:08:29.680 is the hacking by the Chinese communists into their infrastructure.
00:08:33.300 So literally, the very time we're seeing the Chinese trying to penetrate, so to speak,
00:08:38.500 the space command try to figure out what it's doing, they want to partner with it.
00:08:43.060 I mean, this is, you would not be able to get someone in Hollywood to make a movie about this because it's that stupid.
00:08:51.300 And let's break this one more level down.
00:08:54.120 At this point, right now, the Chinese have stated over and over what a great deal of doctrine,
00:09:00.120 with training, with setting up fake carriers, mock-up U.S. aircraft carriers in the desert,
00:09:07.540 showing how they can hit them with hypersonic missiles.
00:09:10.540 This is not a people you want to partner with.
00:09:12.800 This is a people that you have to understand are doing everything they can to undermine your way of life
00:09:17.400 for purposes of them dominating Pacific Rim to begin with and then the world.
00:09:21.440 And this is not something that can be explained away.
00:09:26.760 Right now, as we speak, they're doing the hearings on Capitol Hill where it's very clear that someone in the Chinese,
00:09:33.540 one of the Chinese companies who were owned by the and controlled by the Chinese Communist Party,
00:09:38.580 sent a quarter million dollars to Joe Biden's house in Delaware right before the 2020 election.
00:09:44.140 So, you know, everything from compromising politicians, using fentanyl as a weapon of mass destruction,
00:09:51.240 and literally every day trying to penetrate the Internet and digital backbone of Space Command,
00:09:58.420 they're trying to destabilize the United States for their own purposes of gaining access to the world for them to dominate it.
00:10:05.580 It is that simple.
00:10:06.780 Yeah, and I do want to, in the interest of being even-handed about this,
00:10:12.600 I do want to point out that it's not just the military that the Chinese are hacking.
00:10:17.820 They also have, they've also seized 60,000 emails in a State Department cyber breach.
00:10:26.460 The effort to, again, meet their quota of $600 billion per year in intellectual property and technology,
00:10:35.560 military technology secrets, secret technology if you prefer.
00:10:40.680 I mean, it goes on.
00:10:42.700 This is an administration that is trying to consign this nation to hell on earth.
00:10:50.040 And I don't understand why the Republicans are having any kind of hearing other than the impeachment of Joe Biden, Gordon,
00:10:59.000 other than the impeachment of Joe Biden, with Alejandro Mayorkas, with Merrick Garland, and with Tony Blinken.
00:11:09.100 And, well, let's get General Milley in there, too.
00:11:12.260 Just as, and now we've got to add General Chance Saltzman to the list of people who should just be impeached right now.
00:11:23.440 Your thoughts, Gordon?
00:11:25.060 I mean, are the Chinese laughing just loudly?
00:11:27.840 I mean, do they have a cup of tea or a shot of whiskey each evening just roaring with laughter in the clubs,
00:11:35.400 in military bases all over the country, in the nations in Beijing?
00:11:41.020 Well, it could very well be Mao Tse.
00:11:42.960 But apart from that, I do believe that they are shaking their heads and just wondering who the Biden administration is.
00:11:52.040 We know from the very beginning that just as Biden was elected, but before he took the oath of office,
00:11:59.960 we had that academic, Di Dongsheng, give that live stream lecture.
00:12:05.260 And they talked about how they look forward to being able to exercise dominion and control over Americans at the highest levels of the political system.
00:12:17.020 They were very explicit about it.
00:12:19.280 And when he got his biggest laugh of his lecture, when he mentioned four characters,
00:12:24.940 the four characters that comprise the name of Hunter Biden.
00:12:28.000 And so, yes, we have to be deeply concerned that they have corrupted the president of the United States.
00:12:34.920 As we learn more and more details from these wire transfers,
00:12:38.560 we see large payments going to the Biden administration in circumstances that can only be described as corrupt.
00:12:47.100 And this is a matter of critical concern that the president of the United States is an asset of the Chinese Communist Party.
00:12:54.560 The Chinese communists say it, so probably we should say it as well.
00:12:59.100 You know, Tony, I have to believe that there is also great fear building in Beijing and all over communist China and every military base,
00:13:10.440 because they have at once got to have the impulse we should strike now when the Americans are at their most bizarre,
00:13:19.720 their weakest and have an enfeebled, compromised agent who is leading their country,
00:13:27.020 a puppet president, cognitively impaired, corrupt as he can be.
00:13:32.000 But wait a minute.
00:13:33.560 What if this is a trap?
00:13:35.080 This is too easy.
00:13:37.000 We have absolute morons running the U.S. military.
00:13:41.060 They hold up Lloyd Austin, the secretary of defense, Mark Milley, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
00:13:47.620 And now they've got General Saltzman over at the Space Command wanting to give them missiles,
00:13:55.220 give them spaceships, give them satellites, give them space weapons.
00:14:00.860 It's going to be a hoot.
00:14:02.900 But what are the Americans really thinking?
00:14:05.520 What is this trap?
00:14:06.920 It must be so Byzantine, so complicated, bizarre,
00:14:10.560 and a seat that is just unthinkable to our current philosophy.
00:14:20.000 They've got to be going mad.
00:14:21.980 Do they or don't they want to take a chance on seizing what is just waiting for them with open arms?
00:14:28.800 I think, Lou, it's a matter of two factors that we don't fully have internal information on.
00:14:34.520 First off is their internal economic stresses.
00:14:37.140 Gordon and I have spoken about this with you before, and Gordon is far more expert than I am.
00:14:41.660 But clearly the CPI, the Consumer Price Index falling, the problem with bankruptcies,
00:14:48.820 these are all things they're going to have to deal with.
00:14:50.660 And the second factor is where their military is regarding readiness.
00:14:54.060 Okay, let me interrupt if I may.
00:14:58.400 Sure.
00:14:58.720 My question wasn't that serious, but it was to elicit a thought about what the context is right now
00:15:08.720 for the thinking in Beijing as well as in the United States,
00:15:12.360 because we have nothing but oaths in the General Officer Corps of the United States military across every branch.
00:15:18.700 We're going to take that up with Tony Schaefer and Gordon Chang when we continue.
00:15:24.700 We'll be right back.
00:15:31.400 We're back with Tony Schaefer and Gordon Chang.
00:15:33.940 And you were saying, Tony, in response to what I asked, which was really that there's nothing,
00:15:43.420 it's seemingly nothing holding back the Chinese from taking whatever they want,
00:15:47.580 whether it is Taiwan, whether it is the United States of America.
00:15:52.880 And they have inculcated themselves throughout the entire Western Hemisphere.
00:15:58.100 So what are they to wait on?
00:16:00.400 I think that they recognize that there are unknowns, as my old friend Don Rumsfeld used to say,
00:16:06.640 there are known unknowns and unknown unknowns.
00:16:08.600 And it's the unknown unknowns the Chinese are scratching their head over.
00:16:12.440 Because, yeah, they see the system like we do.
00:16:14.240 They understand they've corrupted it.
00:16:16.100 They're doing everything they can from, you know, from Cherryvale, Kansas, with fentanyl,
00:16:21.760 to the highest offices in the White House to corrupt and destabilize our society.
00:16:28.960 The question becomes, what do we have that could hurt them badly or prevent their goals?
00:16:36.400 And they don't know quite what the Navy, U.S. Navy, can do.
00:16:39.780 And I can tell you for a fact that their belief in their hypersonic missiles taking out aircraft
00:16:43.860 carriers is a pipe dream.
00:16:45.800 There's technical issues that we don't want to get into here that I think are far more complex than
00:16:49.920 the Chinese have been able to figure out.
00:16:52.160 But it doesn't mean they won't take the shot.
00:16:53.980 And this is where Gordon has said, and I would refer this back to Gordon,
00:16:56.380 because maybe Gordon can expand on it.
00:16:59.040 One of the big dates coming up, Lou, is the internal Taiwan presidential election,
00:17:04.520 which I think is scheduled for January of next year.
00:17:06.960 Part of, I think, the goal of China is to do as much as they can bloodlessly or with minimum blood,
00:17:14.620 is trying to obtain and retain those assets in Taiwan for purposes of exploitation, not reconstruction.
00:17:20.560 We have the tendency, Lou, is the U.S. military to go in and blow things up and reconstruct.
00:17:25.220 I just don't think the Chinese want to have to do as much reconstruction.
00:17:28.440 I think they want to take it as much as they can in one piece.
00:17:31.740 And I think that may be one of the things holding them back and trying to do essentially
00:17:35.180 a form of chess, if you will, to try to figure out if they could do something rapidly,
00:17:41.180 be done with it.
00:17:41.860 Because the one thing the Japanese did learn during World War II is if they didn't get the U.S.
00:17:46.500 out of the game quickly, they were going to lose.
00:17:48.540 And Yamato even said, it's like, you know, if we don't beat the Americans in six months,
00:17:52.620 make them capitulate, they're going to come back.
00:17:55.400 And I think that's that they do look at history.
00:17:57.780 And I think they understand the context for their for those questions.
00:18:01.080 Your thoughts, Gordon?
00:18:03.180 Well, right now in China, it is a very confusing situation because, Lou, you asked, well,
00:18:08.980 what is the Chinese calculus?
00:18:10.860 There's a number of things going on.
00:18:12.720 One of them is that there is turmoil in the Chinese political system, both in the civilian
00:18:18.780 ranks of the Communist Party and in the People's Liberation Army.
00:18:22.480 We have seen unprecedented purges, for instance, in the rocket force, which is the branch of
00:18:27.920 the Chinese military that controls almost all the country's nuclear weapons.
00:18:32.720 This summer, there have been 11 generals who've been replaced, including the top two officers,
00:18:38.920 the commander and the political commissar.
00:18:42.740 We don't know exactly what's going on.
00:18:45.480 But I think the best explanation is that Xi Jinping is installing officers who he feels
00:18:50.540 he can trust, who will push the button when they get the order from Xi Jinping himself.
00:18:56.900 If that's the case, then we are pretty close to war.
00:19:00.380 But also, we have been hearing reports recently that in the Chinese military itself, that most
00:19:08.360 officers don't want to go to war, which means that Xi Jinping is now in a battle with his
00:19:14.440 general officers over this whole issue.
00:19:17.340 And so that also plays out.
00:19:19.860 There are civilian battles, which we've seen with the Chinese foreign minister being sacked.
00:19:25.120 There are so many things going on that we don't have visibility into.
00:19:30.180 But as far as China goes, it is certainly in a position where it's not ready to go to war.
00:19:36.320 But on the other hand, it can take us by surprise, because for some reasons that Tony alluded to,
00:19:42.640 Xi Jinping might feel that it is in his interest to act boldly, to act recklessly, and to do
00:19:49.100 things which nobody thinks he would do.
00:19:50.960 And given that possibility, we do know that General Chance Saltzman of the U.S. Space Command,
00:20:00.660 General Mark Milley, and his cohorts in the Pentagon, all are reticent to talk about conflict.
00:20:10.540 They're even conflict-averse, which on one hand might be a good thing.
00:20:14.460 It's not necessarily the best thing that you could have for a set of general officers, but
00:20:19.200 there it is in certain branches, more importantly than others.
00:20:23.760 But we're looking at a CIA that is conspiring, obviously, with the Chinese and working with
00:20:34.460 Dr. Fauci to influence COVID-19 origins, both impede an investigation, both to also cooperate
00:20:44.780 and instigate the incipiency of the COVID-19 virus or China virus or Wuhan virus, if you prefer,
00:20:54.520 and I do.
00:20:55.820 We're looking at an uncertain bureaucracy when it comes to the idea of conflict.
00:21:03.340 We have a fifth column in this country working against all of the institutions of government
00:21:09.100 and certainly the interest of the United States, unless you happen to be a Marxist or a communist.
00:21:15.740 So, Tony, distill it for us.
00:21:19.700 What is the prospect of war in the next six to 12 months, particularly with China?
00:21:26.220 I think it's significant.
00:21:27.760 Look, the more you see a compromised Joe Biden acting listless, literally using racial slurs
00:21:35.440 on stage when he describes L, cool, JJ, cool, J, and I'm being facetious there, that all plays
00:21:42.780 in the mind of the Chinese leadership.
00:21:46.180 And to Gordon's point, they have chaos, no doubt, no doubt that they have chaos.
00:21:50.160 But often, those who are in a chaotic mind see the potential for advantage.
00:21:56.040 And I do believe that what you're seeing here is that the slow descent of Biden into complete
00:22:05.020 dementia gives the Chinese some idea that they might be able to get away with something.
00:22:11.540 The question is, Lou, do the Chinese believe that the people behind Biden would act as slowly
00:22:17.880 or in response, and I think they would.
00:22:21.160 This went under the radar.
00:22:23.160 Jake Sullivan met on the 17th of September with one of the members of the Politburo, Chinese
00:22:31.560 Politburo in Malta.
00:22:33.360 It went completely under the radar.
00:22:35.620 And the reason it went under the radar is because the Biden administration one more time
00:22:39.760 tried to meet and convince the Chinese to not allow the North Koreans to support Putin
00:22:45.700 and for the Chinese overall to back off.
00:22:49.540 Well, the Chinese had no interest in backing off because Jake Sullivan has no leverage.
00:22:54.840 And he also has no brain.
00:22:57.580 That's true.
00:22:58.800 Let's, and for the benefit of the audience, who don't bother with these names and these
00:23:04.620 positions, what we're looking at is the B or C team from the Obama National Security and
00:23:11.520 foreign policy team who have now been projected into positions of leadership and compromise
00:23:17.340 themselves, by the way, specifically Tony Blinken, the secretary of state, a lot to explain,
00:23:24.180 but questions aren't being yet asked of him as they are the president of the United States.
00:23:29.260 I'm sorry.
00:23:29.580 Go ahead.
00:23:30.800 Well, no, I mean, it's the thing.
00:23:32.580 It's like you literally, I call them the high school debating team because that's about
00:23:36.000 the level of their intellect.
00:23:37.660 They all believe somehow that being nice or somehow projecting their values, they're
00:23:44.660 not even our values, they're not values that you, Gord and I share, but I'm saying they
00:23:49.740 project, they, the Biden White House project these Pollyanna left wing belief that somehow
00:23:57.800 they're always right and they tell people what to do.
00:24:00.540 Each nation I know, especially the Chinese are going to act in their own self-interest.
00:24:04.280 And somehow this fact of the way the world work eludes the B team, as you mentioned,
00:24:10.920 over there at the White House.
00:24:12.200 And because of that, I think it does encourage the Chinese to consider maybe we can take the
00:24:16.940 shot and get away with it.
00:24:17.860 And I think that's what makes it very dangerous.
00:24:20.020 Just as an aside here, you mentioned Donald Rumsfeld.
00:24:24.320 I want to repeat what he said, his rules, Rumsfeld's rules.
00:24:28.900 And that is in organizational hiring, the importance of having high quality leadership.
00:24:37.360 His rule is, A's hire A's.
00:24:44.520 B's hire C's.
00:24:47.320 C's, you don't want to think about who they hire.
00:24:50.180 And that's where this entire administration is from the top, which is a, again, a cognitively
00:24:59.120 impaired, completely unfit, compromised puppet president.
00:25:06.880 Think about who he's hiring.
00:25:08.640 Think who is filling out this administration.
00:25:11.460 And you don't have to think very long to be very, very, very frightened for this country's
00:25:16.220 interest.
00:25:17.280 Gordon, we're going to take a quick break.
00:25:18.760 We're going to come right back with you, and we're going to take up North Korea.
00:25:22.960 No one knows North Korea better than Gordon Chang or so many other things as well.
00:25:28.660 We'll be right back.
00:25:29.820 Stay with us.
00:25:36.220 We're back.
00:25:37.040 We're talking with Gordon Chang and Tony Schaefer.
00:25:39.680 Gordon, I've got just a couple of quick questions.
00:25:42.060 They're very simple.
00:25:43.000 So I'll put three of them forward because I know that you could answer them as succinctly
00:25:49.860 and just so quickly.
00:25:51.800 One, North Korea tells the UN the world is at the brink of nuclear war.
00:25:56.400 Thanks to American hysteria, South Korea is threatening to end North Korea.
00:26:02.640 We could put that all under one heading.
00:26:04.320 And how about this, Syrian dictator Bashar Assad in China for the first time since the civil
00:26:12.520 war in Syria began.
00:26:14.900 And by the way, the Chinese hackers got that 60,000 emails that I mentioned earlier.
00:26:20.480 Can you kind of wrap that one up for us?
00:26:22.780 Yeah, the bad actors in the world, China, Russia, Iran, North Korea, Syria, they're all starting
00:26:30.940 to work very closely together.
00:26:32.980 It resembles an alliance, though it's not formal.
00:26:36.740 And we see this, for instance, where Russia about two weeks ago announced that for the first
00:26:41.880 time ever, North Korea would be joining with China and Russia in naval drills in East Asia.
00:26:47.900 But of course, we also saw that with Kim Jong-un, the North Korean leader, going to Russia, meeting
00:26:54.560 Vladimir Putin, obviously talking about arms deals for Ukraine.
00:26:59.280 And it is all over.
00:27:01.000 You know, we see so much of this.
00:27:02.700 And I think it's because they do not respect the president of the United States, and they
00:27:07.020 don't think that we actually will oppose their moves.
00:27:10.140 So they're openly, blatantly talking about violating UN sanctions, violating US sanctions,
00:27:16.480 and all the rest of it.
00:27:17.460 This is very bad news, because Biden is not stopping them.
00:27:22.080 And the North Koreans telling the UN, we're at the brink of nuclear war, because South Korea
00:27:29.380 has threatened to end the North Korean regime.
00:27:32.880 Well, you know, North Korea threatens to end the South Korean government.
00:27:36.740 So that's just mutual.
00:27:38.700 Both South Korea and North Korea have been engaged in low level and sometimes hot wars.
00:27:45.800 And this really is, for Kim Jong-un, something that he absolutely has to do, because, you
00:27:52.780 know, North Koreans can see how prosperous South Koreans are.
00:27:56.920 And they ask, well, what are we sacrificing for?
00:27:59.720 Why aren't we as wealthy as the South Koreans?
00:28:01.840 So North Korea has worked very hard to destroy the South Korean government, and will continue
00:28:07.720 to do so as long as the Kims rule in Pyongyang.
00:28:11.100 Right.
00:28:11.540 Well, they should be used to that situation, which has been extant since for 70 years,
00:28:17.400 more than 70 years.
00:28:18.940 Well, let's let's turn now, if we could, to to you, Tony, and talk about something that
00:28:25.720 is, I think, very interesting.
00:28:29.200 Yeah.
00:28:29.520 The first American Abrams tanks are arriving in Ukraine, according to President Zelensky.
00:28:36.580 This is a significant, significant red line, I would think, for Vladimir Putin.
00:28:43.900 It is and it isn't.
00:28:46.180 I mean, they've already introduced the Leopard 1s and 2s and the British similar main battle
00:28:55.980 tanks.
00:28:56.800 And frankly, they've not, they've had no effect at all.
00:29:00.580 It's sad.
00:29:01.460 And what I think this represents is the United States taking and putting another toe in the
00:29:09.100 water for an expansion of our of our use of our own military force, which is very dangerous.
00:29:15.460 Congressman Eli Crane was on the floor saying that nothing at this point is worth sending
00:29:21.220 our troops over.
00:29:22.020 And I think this is what we have to be wary of is like an expansion.
00:29:26.420 And even it's funny, you should mention that even the mainstream media is catching on to how
00:29:32.260 this is not going to have an effect.
00:29:33.700 Let me quote for you that Newsweek, which is not a conservative paper, Ukraine's new
00:29:40.000 Abrams tanks could be quickly destroyed by Russia.
00:29:43.900 If there was an accurate statement, that's it.
00:29:46.880 And this goes on to talk about the fact that this is but one more tactic without integration
00:29:52.900 into a larger strategy.
00:29:54.800 And this is this goes back to Mark Milley.
00:29:56.940 There is, you know, Sun Tzu said, Lou, tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.
00:30:02.560 And I've said it over and over.
00:30:03.880 And that's what we're seeing.
00:30:04.760 We see all these stupid tactics, throwing things against the wall, hoping it sticks with
00:30:09.100 no real focus or ability to actually make a case for Ukraine to be effective in military
00:30:15.320 force.
00:30:16.360 And it's just sad.
00:30:18.400 I think the Ukrainian people are caught in the middle of this right now.
00:30:20.980 They're taking it from both sides, literally.
00:30:23.140 And it's this is not going to end well.
00:30:25.800 And I don't see the Abrams having any net expansion of any effectiveness on the Ukrainian
00:30:30.840 side.
00:30:31.280 And frankly, I think the Russians are going to end up capturing a couple of those like
00:30:34.820 they've already captured a couple of the German tanks.
00:30:37.760 The M1A1 is quite a different tank, though, than the Tiger 1 and 2, the German.
00:30:43.880 It is.
00:30:44.260 Well, these are detuned.
00:30:46.000 So these are these don't have the Chabum armor, which is a classified armor.
00:30:49.140 Basically, we have depleted uranium in our armor.
00:30:51.420 And then they have the basic suite of earlier technology.
00:30:55.440 These are not the M1A2 mechs that we put on the battlefield now.
00:31:02.060 But still, I just don't think they're going to be as effective as the Ukrainians would like
00:31:07.560 them to be.
00:31:08.620 Well, I certainly will defer to your judgment on that.
00:31:10.820 And I will also ask you at the same time, as we look at the consternation that Gordon and
00:31:19.300 you as well have described in China, the chaos there, the uncertainty, I can't think of greater
00:31:26.400 uncertainty than a Europe that has a war raging on its eastern border with Russia.
00:31:34.420 I can't think of anything more chaotic than what this administration has visited upon the
00:31:42.860 United States of America.
00:31:44.820 Destroying families, destroying jobs, bringing in illegal immigrants by the millions to compete
00:31:53.700 and to depress wages, at the same time driving high inflation, while at the same time there's
00:31:59.360 an impeachment of Joe Biden underway and a clear understanding now by the American people,
00:32:05.820 according to every recent poll, that this is a political quagmire that originates with
00:32:13.740 none other than the compromised, impaired puppet President Biden himself and a regime that
00:32:20.740 is absolutely dysfunctional and operating in the interest of God knows who, but it certainly
00:32:25.940 is in America.
00:32:27.380 Your thoughts?
00:32:27.900 Well, the economic issues, Lou, are clear.
00:32:34.680 Come on, Joe Biden showing up on the UAW picket line for 12 minutes?
00:32:39.400 Are you kidding me?
00:32:40.740 He's going to put them out of business.
00:32:42.980 This wet dream of EV, electric vehicles, is going to be resulting in the complete loss of
00:32:50.580 American dominance in the automotive arena.
00:32:55.160 It's a travesty.
00:32:56.780 And then the people who are most affected, their constituency, the poor and minorities are
00:33:03.280 being put upon and their wages pushed down by illegal immigration and by fentanyl, by drugs.
00:33:10.640 There's absolutely no upside to being in the Biden economy.
00:33:14.020 Bidenomics will lead to the death of the United States at the rate we're going.
00:33:17.400 Gordon, you're going to get the last word here this week.
00:33:22.180 Your thoughts right now on the threat level for America.
00:33:28.140 The threat level is extremely high because the Chinese can see that there is no sense of
00:33:34.360 urgency in the global office, in the State Department, in the Pentagon.
00:33:38.640 They can see all the things that Tony just talked about.
00:33:41.580 I think Xi Jinping may feel that he has no alternative but to strike out.
00:33:47.500 And, Lu, we can see that China's engaging in activities, especially in the South China Sea,
00:33:53.580 that lead to war, especially at Second Thomas Shaw and Scarborough Shaw.
00:33:58.240 China is engaging in provocative activities.
00:34:04.740 So, really, what we've got is a world that any single spark could trigger the next global conflict.
00:34:11.420 And just God bless the United States, and we have to stay strong.
00:34:15.740 And, Lu, just they should have been listening to you 15 years ago when you first started talking about
00:34:22.840 Red Storm Rising.
00:34:24.160 Absolutely.
00:34:24.480 God, no, we would be in a much better position.
00:34:27.420 We wouldn't be talking about these issues if Lou Dobbs had been there and making U.S. policy.
00:34:34.260 Well, Gordon Chang and Tony Schaefer and Lou Dobbs keep trying to assess what's happening,
00:34:40.800 and we hope that this has been an interesting and illuminating discussion for the audience.
00:34:48.200 As always, we appreciate, gentlemen, you being with us.
00:34:51.580 God bless you, and God save America.
00:34:54.480 Thank you, Lou.
00:34:55.480 Thanks, Lou.
00:34:56.380 Thanks to Gordon Chang and Tony Schaefer, and thank you, everybody, for being with us here today.
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