BIDEN IS THE LARGEST HUMAN TRAFFICKER AND DRUG SMUGGLER IN AMERICAN HISTORY, SAYS REP. HARRIET HAGEMAN
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Joe Biden announces his intention to run for re-election in 2024, Congresswoman Harriet Hageman reacts to the news. Congressman Jim Jordan calls for the FBI to get out of spying on American citizens. Former Vice President Joe Biden announces he will run for President in 2024.
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Hello everybody, I'm Lou Dobbs and welcome to The Great America Show, where we fight daily for truth,
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justice, and the American way. Great to have you with us in the fight for our great constitutional
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republic, and the fight, as you well know, is intensifying by the day. Whether it's the court
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cases raging against President Trump, three in New York, another in Georgia, and of course the
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Jack Smith special counsel investigation, all bogus nonsense, all political persecution,
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and all to undercut President Biden's presumptive political opponent in 2024, President Donald
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Trump. It is all outrageous, and the same Marxist-Dem forces that are attacking relentlessly President
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Trump are spying on you, me, and the American people daily, and they want now Congress to
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reauthorize the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. What do you think? Should they do that?
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You'll be hearing a lot about Section 702 that permits spying on American citizens, permits
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warrantless backdoor searches of American citizens with an error rate of 30 percent. That's more than
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a million U.S. citizens who the FBI spy on without a warrant for no purpose whatsoever. As Judiciary
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Committee Chairman Jim Jordan asks, why not get the FBI out of the spying business altogether if they're that
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reckless and seek that many searches? Here he is.
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Americans are being picked up in this incidental collection. We don't know the number. My guess is it's
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pretty darn big. They won't tell us. And without probable cause, that database is being searched
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3.4 million times with all kinds of error rates, as Mr. Gates in his round of questioning determined
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earlier. How about if we just get the FBI out of the business altogether?
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The Marxist Dems and the deep state bureaucrats of the federal government are a power obviously now
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under themselves. They no longer submit to congressional oversight. They do exactly what
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they want to do. And they only want to keep themselves and the Marxist Dems in power. And
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President Biden means to keep that power in the hands of Marxist Dems, announcing he's running for
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re-election this week. Not a surprise, right? Meaning that Marxist cabal, who manages this puppet
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president, will still be pulling his strings. And if successful, Barack Obama will effectively have
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a fourth term in the Oval Office. Our guest today is Congresswoman Harriet Hageman. She's a member of
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Jordan's Judiciary Committee and the Weaponization Subcommittee. And Congresswoman Hageman, it is a
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delight to have you back with us on The Great America Show. We appreciate all that you're doing
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Oh, Lou, I always enjoy visiting with you on your program. Thank you for having me.
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Well, our delight. And let's start with the big news of the day. Joe Biden is going to run for
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president in 2024. Exciting, not his base, nor anyone else, apparently, in the country,
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in sufficient numbers for him to achieve that apparent dream. Your reaction?
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Well, I watched at least portions of the video this morning that he released as his campaign
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announcement. And there are many observations, one being that the level of decline that we're seeing
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in him and his cognitive ability was very obvious in that. And if they can't even hide it when they're
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doing the video announcing his reelection, what is he really like behind the scenes? So that's one
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of the things I would say. The other one is, is he never talked about any of his accomplishments as
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being good for America, because none of his accomplishments are good for America. Now, if you'd been
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president for two years, wouldn't you be talking about the things you've done to lower energy costs or
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lower food costs or what you've done to secure the border? But because everything he's done has
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been a disaster for the American people, they just have to try to point fingers and tell lies about
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the Republican side of things. You know, I think you're exactly right. And I also think that it is
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people who think that this is just a big mistake by Joe Biden and the Biden regime of Marxist Dems
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are missing the point, I believe. I want to get your reaction to this, because I think everything
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he's doing that's destructive to the to the country, to the American people, the great republic,
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our heritage, our foundational values, the family, I think every one of it is planned by the Marxist
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Dems who run this Democrat Party now. You know, Lou, it's almost the only the only conclusion you can
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come to because one of the things that I have done is I have racked my brain over the last several
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years of what is the end goal here? Why would you adopt the policies that are being pushed forward
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first by an Anthony Fauci and locking down the country? But then since Joe Biden took office two
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years ago, why would you immediately destroy our energy industry? Why would you immediately do
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everything in your power to increase the cost of food? Why would you continuously kowtow to a country
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like or to the Chinese Communist Party? You look at the steps that they've taken and what they've done
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and every single decision that they've made or virtually every single decision has made our
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country poorer, less safe, less secure, less less independent, less in terms of adhering to our
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constitutional values, less free. You just go through and any of the major decisions that they have made
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canceling the XL pipeline, selling our strategic petroleum reserve oil to China. You go down the
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list and none of the policies that they're pursuing are in the best interests of America, but they are
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in the best interests of stockpiling power in Washington, D.C. and empowering people who have
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never liked the fact that we are a free republic. And staring all Americans right in the face is the
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reality that you're describing. And I want to turn to the idea that this this administration
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can't get anything right, doesn't want to do anything right. And we've tolerated for almost two
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and a half years. This man has brought in six million illegal immigrants. Nobody knows what they're
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doing. No one knows exactly who's paying for it. The taxpayer, of course, but a lot of NGOs and
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nonprofits are also involved in this distribution of illegal immigrants across the country. We also
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have a president that is trying, it seems harder to get into a war with Russia than to keep us out of
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a conflict rather than resolve that conflict between Ukraine and Russia. And the list goes on with all of
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the problems that he is. It seems to me is creating your thoughts. Well, absolutely. We went and visited
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the border a couple of months ago. We were down in Yuma and there's a couple of things I would describe
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Joe Biden as the largest human trafficker and drug smuggler in U.S. history because he's responsible
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for what we're seeing. It's an astonishingly inhumane policy that they are implementing, not only for the
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citizens of this country, but for the illegal immigrants themselves, the sex trafficking,
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the human trafficking, the drug smuggling, the abject poverty that we're seeing inflicted.
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You're suppressing the wages here in this country at the behest of importing a lower uneducated class
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that is going to have a very difficult time to assimilate. More than 10 times the population of
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Wyoming has crossed that border illegally in the last two years. And that is a metric that is just
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stunning from the standpoint of what it will ultimately portend. But keep in mind, the reason
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the cartels are doing this and they're spreading these people all over the country is because
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they have priceless of what people pay to cross that border. And you can't cross the border without
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going through the cartel. If you try it, they will kill you.
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So they are spreading people all over this country to do their bidding. So if the price list for
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someone from, say, Guatemala is $8,000, they pay $4,000 in cash and they owe $4,000 by either engaging
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in sex trafficking, human trafficking, or drug smuggling. So we, as the federal government, are
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actually enabling the cartels to spread their abject misery and their drug problems all over the United
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States of America. They have made $15 billion since Joe Biden came into office on human smuggling.
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This is an administration that is aligned with the Mexican drug cartels. There's no other way to look
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at it. And those drug cartels are now in charge. If there's no border, the cartels are in charge of not
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only northern Mexico, but the southern four border states of the United States. It is extraordinary
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It is extraordinary. And it is, as I've said, I am fed up with the UN and every country on earth
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saying that we're required to protect the border integrity of countries like the Ukraine and elsewhere,
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but not our own. And my view of it is we have to protect America first, because if you don't,
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there is no other America out there. We're the last one. We're the last, we're the last hope of
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We're talking with Congresswoman Hagman. We're going to be talking about what she would like to see
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Secretary of State Tony Blinken do this evening. And we're going to be talking about the Republicans'
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effort to establish a debt ceiling that is meaningful and brings runaway federal spending,
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Biden spending, under control. We're coming right back after these quick messages from our sponsors.
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We're back with Congresswoman Harriet Hagman. We were talking about a number of critically important
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issues. And let's turn to one of the most important, frankly, and that is the role of the
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Secretary of State Tony Blinken in putting together the 51 intelligence veterans who signed that letter
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in 2020 and the presidential, approaching the 2020 presidential debates and organized it and carried
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Well, it is shocking. And one of the things that I keep saying about this is that when that story came
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out in October, when the New York Post published the story, and then this group of 51 former
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intelligence folks issued a letter saying that this had all of the hallmarks of a Russian disinformation
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campaign, I realized at that moment that this was an effort at a cover-up. Because nobody asked the
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most rudimentary questions that you would ask, which is, okay, you 51 former intelligence folks,
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did you actually inspect a physical copy or the physical laptop itself? Are you saying that the
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photographs on that laptop are Russian disinformation? Are you saying the documents were
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planted there? What are you saying is Russian disinformation? But all they needed to do was make
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the statement, and then the mainstream media ran with it. Politico, Washington Post, New York Times,
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all screaming in their headlines that this is Russian disinformation. So those of us in the real world,
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those of us with a lick of sense, we knew what the cover-up was. What I didn't know until we
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interviewed Michael Morrell, the person who wrote the letter, as to where this came from. And it came
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from Antony Blinken. And why at Antony Blinken, our current Secretary of State, and why that is so
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significant to me is that this gentleman who has now taken a note of office that he will uphold the
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Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, clearly he was, had his fingers
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crossed behind his back when he was saying that, because he knew he was going to work for some,
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for the, for, for the Biden crime family. He knew he was going to be Secretary of State to a gentleman
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who had been completely compromised by the Chinese Communist Party and by the Ukraine government and by
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others. So we have a situation where the person who is responsible for our foreign policy
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fully knows that the person he's working with is corrupt and is part of a corrupt family. Yet he
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went ahead and did it. So for me, what I keep thinking about is at one, at what point do any of
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these people care enough about the United States of America that their loyalty to us, to our Constitution,
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to the citizens here, to our freedoms, at what point does that loyalty ever take a front seat in terms
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of the decisions they make? Because we now know that Antony Blinken was willing to compromise himself
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and at least 51 other former intelligence people to try to bury the Hunter laptop story because they
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knew what was on that laptop. And that scares me.
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And it should scare everyone in this country. 51 former intelligence officials and veterans of
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these agencies, including five former directors and one acting director, Mike Murrell, as you just
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said, who had the temerity to acknowledge that he did that at the behest of the Biden campaign.
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And everybody knew that that's what had happened. We just didn't understand quite the specific
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architecture of it. And then to find out that it was quite enough that they just simply wanted
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Biden to be president of the United States, no matter what the lies were that they had to put
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before the American people. Not one of them has recanted. By the way, it's important that everybody
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remember President Obama was in office. These were his intelligence people's officials making these
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rounds and doing so obviously under his imprimatur. And not one person in the national left-wing media
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has taken note of that either. This is a crime against the nation, whether it is criminal. And
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you're the attorney. You tell me if you can't be prosecuted for this, for changing history, because they
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stole the election through those actions with that letter and giving him a shield, Biden a shield,
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against the charge of all that was contained in the Hunter Biden laptop. They lied. They put President
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Trump on that debate stage in an impossible situation. It's just, is there a crime here?
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You know, I don't know the answer to that other than to say that it was such an astounding level
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of disinformation and misinformation. And as you said, the outcome of the election was changed as a
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result. So I've been saying for years that the 2020 election was rigged. And what I refer to in that
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is the $500 million from Zuckerberg of get out the vote campaign, get out the Democrat vote campaign,
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the Hunter Biden, the suppression of the Hunter Biden laptop, and why the Hunter Biden laptop is so
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incredibly significant is because the Biden family we're finding now, we're laundering money from
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the CCP, from the Chinese Communist Party through at least 12 members of that family that they were
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receiving the money directly. So what you've got is, well, you were, they were receiving the money
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through a variety of LLCs that they had set up for the purpose of laundering that money. And we have
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someone who it was, it was happening while he was vice president. And then it was happening while he
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was candidate, a candidate. So then we have all these situations happening with China, the Chinese
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spy balloon, the fact that they won't come clean on the origins origins of the of the COVID-19 virus,
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all of those things. And we have an administration that's completely mom. So what that tells me is
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that he's been paid for lock, stock and barrel by the Chinese Communist Party. But we're the ones who
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are suffering the consequences. And Antony Blinken needs to answer for that. I am demanding that he come
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before our Judiciary Committee, go under oath and answer the questions as to what he's done.
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And I think we need to ask him about the decisions that have been made in the last two years
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to benefit a foreign adversary as as compared to the United States.
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We'll continue with Congresswoman Harriet Hageman next here on The Great America Show. Stay with us.
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A quick message from our sponsor. We'll be right back.
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We're back with Congresswoman Harriet Hageman and the Congresswoman just laying out what she wants
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Tony Blinken to do, which is to appear before the Judiciary Committee on which she she sits.
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Give us your thoughts about what you think will be the response to your suggestion that he appear
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before your committee. Well, we know from this administration that they don't believe in
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legislative oversight. And I think that's been one of the more surprising aspects of being in Congress
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is we all go back to our education from when we were young, that we have three branches of government.
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The only role of the executive branch is to carry out the laws as passed by the legislative branch,
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in this case, Congress. And what we now have is we have almost a rogue government back here in
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Washington, D.C. And that is that the executive branch and the administrative agencies do not believe
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that they're answerable to Congress and they don't believe that they're answerable to the American
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public. So what I would assume is, as I don't know if you knew, but there has been a letter on
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April 20th sent by Jim Jordan as the chairman of the Committee on the Judiciary and Michael Turner as
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chairman on the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence to Antony Blinken, asking him to produce a variety
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of documents no later than May 5th in relation to this particular revelation that we now have.
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So they're going to they're they're going to try to stonewall and then they're going to do what they
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are best known for, which is deflect attention, try to create some kind of a crisis so that we look
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elsewhere. I want you to think back from a couple of weeks ago when Jamie Comer on the oversight committee
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announced that we do know that the Chinese Communist Party, there's documentation showing that they have
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paid over a million dollars to the Biden family through these variety of LLCs. What happened that
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same day? What happened the same day that he made that announcement? If you'll remember, it was leaked
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that the district attorney in New York was going to indict President Trump. So this is just exactly like
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the 51 intel, allegedly intelligent intelligence officials who signed that letter. All of this is
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about deflection. So the moment that there was going to be something that was revealed about the
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Biden's that the mainstream media was actually going to have to cover, you had a leak of the of the of
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the situation in New York City. Well, that indictment is totally bogus. We know that it was a cut and paste
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job for 34 different counts. He doesn't have the jurisdiction. It's most likely going to be thrown
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out. He won't be that President Trump won't be prosecuted. But what that did is it gave the
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mainstream media the ability to deflect attention from the Biden's. So what do I think is going to
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happen with this situation with Blinken? I think you're going to continue to see more crises. You're
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going to see more leaks. You're going to see more of a situation of please follow the bouncy,
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the shiny bouncing ball over there. But I think the American people are becoming wise to that.
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I know that I am. I know that anytime you have them come out, why would they leak that they were
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going to indict Donald Trump? They didn't even they didn't even file the papers for another 10 days.
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Why did they leak it when they leaked it? They leaked it because they had to deflect attention
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from Comer's work and it worked. The press won't cover it. So that's what I think you're going to see
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as a continuing effort to try to avoid having him answer for what he did. But, you know, I'm like
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a dog with a bone. We're going to keep going after this. We've got to expose what these corruptocrats
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have done. Well, these corruptocrats, as you call them, have done a lot of damage to this country
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already. The massive spending, the omnibus bill, which Mitch McConnell and I want to keep this in
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front of everybody. Senator Mitch McConnell, the majority leader, went along with and made it possible
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for the 118th Congress not to be able to exercise budgetary control and influence and direction,
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which was its responsibility because of the omnibus bill that he agreed to and the massive
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spending bills, including the Inflation Reduction Act and other various spending bills. The country is
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just mired now in debt deficits that are going to run one and a half trillion dollars in this fiscal
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year that will run two trillion. Think about this, folks, two trillion dollars a year for years to
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come unless something can be done. The Republicans want to shut that down. They think that the way to
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get there is through exercising good judgment and and leverage over the White House in the debt ceiling.
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I would at this point, Congresswoman, I don't know how that's going. I know that McCarthy has said to
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Biden, let's negotiate. And Biden has said, you go where? Where are we today? So one of the things
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that we're trying to do, and I support this approach, we are going to be taking up, I believe it's tomorrow,
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the Limit Save Grow Act, and that's with the House of Representatives. And there's a lot of really
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good things in this bill. H.R. 1, our entire energy bill is included in in this proposal. There's quite
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a bit in terms of limiting future spending. So you talked about the omnibus spending bill that was done
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by the U.S. Senate, including with 18 Republicans, to prevent the more conservative House of Representatives
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from being able to rein in spending. And so I'm pretty angry about that, too. Lou, I'm glad that
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you mentioned that, because more people need to know that the Republicans sold us down the river
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on that one as well. But we're also looking at saving taxpayer money, and we're looking at growing
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the economy by introducing things like the RAINS Act, which would limit the kind of overreach that we
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see from these bureaucracies in Washington, D.C. One of the things to keep in mind when you throw your
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numbers out there is the first trillion dollar budget was in the late 1980s. That was the first
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trillion dollar budget. That was a little over 30 years ago. And we are now where we have a president
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that just submitted a seven trillion dollar budget. So what does that tell you about the expansion of
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government? And I keep saying, look, if a bigger government is spending more money, solve the problems.
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We wouldn't have any problems, would we? I mean, the fact is, is that this overspending is creating
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the problems. Inflation. It is, it's empowering people to go out and try to destroy our small
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businesses. It's affecting the middle class. It's, it's reducing our standard of living. Hell, it's
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reducing the, our life expectancy because of the bad policies coming out of Washington, D.C.
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So obviously overspending and spending more and stockpiling more power in D.C. and laundering more
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money through D.C. isn't the solution. We've got to find a different paradigm and we need to take power
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and get it back to the states. And we need to stop empowering people like Joe Biden with giving him
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just literally a blank check to make every bad policy he can possibly think of.
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Well, it's, it is a battle that the Republicans haven't won in seven tries by my count. And I, I think,
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you know, I, I urged the Republican party not to, to get into this fight, but once you're in it,
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I'm all for you. Uh, I, I will do everything to support, uh, the Republican party in, in this,
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uh, I just hope that there is, uh, there is some magic sauce that the leadership of the GOP in the
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house can find to win it, uh, because it's that critical. You're correct about the future of the
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Republican, by the way, my straight line extrapolation one for what you just said is the budget, uh, 40 years
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hints, uh, if we follow this straight line extrapolation from the eighties will be in excess
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of $50 trillion, just, just for the, the budget of the United States. Uh, we have an economy that's
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only half that size right now. Uh, it is madness. We're the largest detonation in world history.
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We need to knock it off. Congresswoman Harriet Hageman. She is the representative of the great
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state of Wyoming. And folks, I think you're probably like me. You're awfully grateful that
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Wyoming, uh, sent her to us, uh, in Washington, DC. Congresswoman, thanks for being with us. We
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thank you so much and God bless you. Thank you, Lou. God bless you as well.
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Congresswoman Hageman, a star in the 118th Congress, and she's also on the Natural Resources
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Committee and she chairs the Indian and Insular Affairs Subcommittee. And thank you everybody for
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being with us. I want to share with you our quotation of the day now with all that's happening these
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days, lawsuits against free speech, the powerful preempting free expression, and too few speaking
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truth to power. Today's quotation is from Benjamin Franklin. Franklin said this,
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without freedom of thought, there can be no such thing as wisdom and no such thing as public liberty
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without freedom of speech. From Benjamin Franklin. And our guest Monday is Congressman Jim Jordan,
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the chairman of the House Judiciary Committee and the Weaponization of Government Subcommittee.
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