The Great America Show - BIDEN IS THE LARGEST HUMAN TRAFFICKER AND DRUG SMUGGLER IN AMERICAN HISTORY, SAYS REP. HARRIET HAGEMAN

00:00:00.000 Hello everybody, I'm Lou Dobbs and welcome to The Great America Show, where we fight daily for truth,

00:00:06.300 justice, and the American way. Great to have you with us in the fight for our great constitutional

00:00:11.600 republic, and the fight, as you well know, is intensifying by the day. Whether it's the court

00:00:18.580 cases raging against President Trump, three in New York, another in Georgia, and of course the

00:00:24.420 Jack Smith special counsel investigation, all bogus nonsense, all political persecution,

00:00:31.320 and all to undercut President Biden's presumptive political opponent in 2024, President Donald

00:00:38.760 Trump. It is all outrageous, and the same Marxist-Dem forces that are attacking relentlessly President

00:00:46.660 Trump are spying on you, me, and the American people daily, and they want now Congress to

00:00:54.300 reauthorize the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. What do you think? Should they do that?

00:01:00.080 You'll be hearing a lot about Section 702 that permits spying on American citizens, permits

00:01:07.060 warrantless backdoor searches of American citizens with an error rate of 30 percent. That's more than

00:01:14.940 a million U.S. citizens who the FBI spy on without a warrant for no purpose whatsoever. As Judiciary

00:01:23.340 Committee Chairman Jim Jordan asks, why not get the FBI out of the spying business altogether if they're that

00:01:31.180 reckless and seek that many searches? Here he is.

00:01:36.100 Americans are being picked up in this incidental collection. We don't know the number. My guess is it's

00:01:42.620 pretty darn big. They won't tell us. And without probable cause, that database is being searched

00:01:50.740 3.4 million times with all kinds of error rates, as Mr. Gates in his round of questioning determined

00:01:57.980 earlier. How about if we just get the FBI out of the business altogether?

00:02:01.260 The Marxist Dems and the deep state bureaucrats of the federal government are a power obviously now

00:02:07.380 under themselves. They no longer submit to congressional oversight. They do exactly what

00:02:13.740 they want to do. And they only want to keep themselves and the Marxist Dems in power. And

00:02:20.760 President Biden means to keep that power in the hands of Marxist Dems, announcing he's running for

00:02:26.920 re-election this week. Not a surprise, right? Meaning that Marxist cabal, who manages this puppet

00:02:33.680 president, will still be pulling his strings. And if successful, Barack Obama will effectively have

00:02:40.740 a fourth term in the Oval Office. Our guest today is Congresswoman Harriet Hageman. She's a member of

00:02:48.720 Jordan's Judiciary Committee and the Weaponization Subcommittee. And Congresswoman Hageman, it is a

00:02:55.080 delight to have you back with us on The Great America Show. We appreciate all that you're doing

00:03:00.440 for America. Thanks for joining us.

00:03:03.920 Oh, Lou, I always enjoy visiting with you on your program. Thank you for having me.

00:03:08.900 Well, our delight. And let's start with the big news of the day. Joe Biden is going to run for

00:03:17.040 president in 2024. Exciting, not his base, nor anyone else, apparently, in the country,

00:03:25.180 in sufficient numbers for him to achieve that apparent dream. Your reaction?

00:03:29.720 Well, I watched at least portions of the video this morning that he released as his campaign

00:03:34.720 announcement. And there are many observations, one being that the level of decline that we're seeing

00:03:42.140 in him and his cognitive ability was very obvious in that. And if they can't even hide it when they're

00:03:47.880 doing the video announcing his reelection, what is he really like behind the scenes? So that's one

00:03:53.100 of the things I would say. The other one is, is he never talked about any of his accomplishments as

00:03:58.000 being good for America, because none of his accomplishments are good for America. Now, if you'd been

00:04:04.440 president for two years, wouldn't you be talking about the things you've done to lower energy costs or

00:04:09.080 lower food costs or what you've done to secure the border? But because everything he's done has

00:04:14.000 been a disaster for the American people, they just have to try to point fingers and tell lies about

00:04:19.520 the Republican side of things. You know, I think you're exactly right. And I also think that it is

00:04:25.980 people who think that this is just a big mistake by Joe Biden and the Biden regime of Marxist Dems

00:04:32.820 are missing the point, I believe. I want to get your reaction to this, because I think everything

00:04:39.800 he's doing that's destructive to the to the country, to the American people, the great republic,

00:04:47.040 our heritage, our foundational values, the family, I think every one of it is planned by the Marxist

00:04:53.800 Dems who run this Democrat Party now. You know, Lou, it's almost the only the only conclusion you can

00:04:59.680 come to because one of the things that I have done is I have racked my brain over the last several

00:05:04.620 years of what is the end goal here? Why would you adopt the policies that are being pushed forward

00:05:11.200 first by an Anthony Fauci and locking down the country? But then since Joe Biden took office two

00:05:17.380 years ago, why would you immediately destroy our energy industry? Why would you immediately do

00:05:23.080 everything in your power to increase the cost of food? Why would you continuously kowtow to a country 0.57

00:05:28.900 like or to the Chinese Communist Party? You look at the steps that they've taken and what they've done

00:05:34.980 and every single decision that they've made or virtually every single decision has made our

00:05:40.740 country poorer, less safe, less secure, less less independent, less in terms of adhering to our

00:05:49.560 constitutional values, less free. You just go through and any of the major decisions that they have made

00:05:57.520 canceling the XL pipeline, selling our strategic petroleum reserve oil to China. You go down the

00:06:05.740 list and none of the policies that they're pursuing are in the best interests of America, but they are

00:06:11.400 in the best interests of stockpiling power in Washington, D.C. and empowering people who have

00:06:17.020 never liked the fact that we are a free republic. And staring all Americans right in the face is the

00:06:24.020 reality that you're describing. And I want to turn to the idea that this this administration

00:06:31.480 can't get anything right, doesn't want to do anything right. And we've tolerated for almost two

00:06:38.080 and a half years. This man has brought in six million illegal immigrants. Nobody knows what they're 1.00

00:06:44.120 doing. No one knows exactly who's paying for it. The taxpayer, of course, but a lot of NGOs and

00:06:50.340 nonprofits are also involved in this distribution of illegal immigrants across the country. We also 0.97

00:06:57.460 have a president that is trying, it seems harder to get into a war with Russia than to keep us out of 0.50

00:07:04.940 a conflict rather than resolve that conflict between Ukraine and Russia. And the list goes on with all of

00:07:13.400 the problems that he is. It seems to me is creating your thoughts. Well, absolutely. We went and visited

00:07:21.180 the border a couple of months ago. We were down in Yuma and there's a couple of things I would describe

00:07:26.240 Joe Biden as the largest human trafficker and drug smuggler in U.S. history because he's responsible

00:07:33.420 for what we're seeing. It's an astonishingly inhumane policy that they are implementing, not only for the

00:07:39.640 citizens of this country, but for the illegal immigrants themselves, the sex trafficking,

00:07:45.160 the human trafficking, the drug smuggling, the abject poverty that we're seeing inflicted.

00:07:50.740 You're suppressing the wages here in this country at the behest of importing a lower uneducated class 1.00

00:07:58.560 that is going to have a very difficult time to assimilate. More than 10 times the population of

00:08:03.520 Wyoming has crossed that border illegally in the last two years. And that is a metric that is just

00:08:10.420 stunning from the standpoint of what it will ultimately portend. But keep in mind, the reason

00:08:15.760 the cartels are doing this and they're spreading these people all over the country is because

00:08:20.000 they have priceless of what people pay to cross that border. And you can't cross the border without

00:08:25.500 going through the cartel. If you try it, they will kill you.

00:08:28.040 So they are spreading people all over this country to do their bidding. So if the price list for

00:08:35.160 someone from, say, Guatemala is $8,000, they pay $4,000 in cash and they owe $4,000 by either engaging

00:08:43.660 in sex trafficking, human trafficking, or drug smuggling. So we, as the federal government, are

00:08:49.380 actually enabling the cartels to spread their abject misery and their drug problems all over the United

00:08:57.840 States of America. They have made $15 billion since Joe Biden came into office on human smuggling.

00:09:07.520 This is an administration that is aligned with the Mexican drug cartels. There's no other way to look

00:09:14.880 at it. And those drug cartels are now in charge. If there's no border, the cartels are in charge of not

00:09:21.960 only northern Mexico, but the southern four border states of the United States. It is extraordinary

00:09:28.800 what's happening.

00:09:29.540 It is extraordinary. And it is, as I've said, I am fed up with the UN and every country on earth

00:09:36.860 saying that we're required to protect the border integrity of countries like the Ukraine and elsewhere,

00:09:43.540 but not our own. And my view of it is we have to protect America first, because if you don't,

00:09:49.460 there is no other America out there. We're the last one. We're the last, we're the last hope of

00:09:54.600 freedom in the world.

00:09:56.180 We're talking with Congresswoman Hagman. We're going to be talking about what she would like to see

00:10:02.000 Secretary of State Tony Blinken do this evening. And we're going to be talking about the Republicans'

00:10:08.660 effort to establish a debt ceiling that is meaningful and brings runaway federal spending,

00:10:16.340 Biden spending, under control. We're coming right back after these quick messages from our sponsors.

00:10:22.880 We're back with Congresswoman Harriet Hagman. We were talking about a number of critically important

00:10:29.160 issues. And let's turn to one of the most important, frankly, and that is the role of the

00:10:37.040 Secretary of State Tony Blinken in putting together the 51 intelligence veterans who signed that letter

00:10:45.360 in 2020 and the presidential, approaching the 2020 presidential debates and organized it and carried

00:10:53.060 out a fraud on the American people.

00:10:55.660 Well, it is shocking. And one of the things that I keep saying about this is that when that story came

00:11:02.480 out in October, when the New York Post published the story, and then this group of 51 former

00:11:10.240 intelligence folks issued a letter saying that this had all of the hallmarks of a Russian disinformation

00:11:16.240 campaign, I realized at that moment that this was an effort at a cover-up. Because nobody asked the

00:11:22.200 most rudimentary questions that you would ask, which is, okay, you 51 former intelligence folks,

00:11:27.440 did you actually inspect a physical copy or the physical laptop itself? Are you saying that the

00:11:34.980 photographs on that laptop are Russian disinformation? Are you saying the documents were

00:11:39.380 planted there? What are you saying is Russian disinformation? But all they needed to do was make

00:11:44.500 the statement, and then the mainstream media ran with it. Politico, Washington Post, New York Times,

00:11:50.960 all screaming in their headlines that this is Russian disinformation. So those of us in the real world,

00:11:55.740 those of us with a lick of sense, we knew what the cover-up was. What I didn't know until we

00:12:02.160 interviewed Michael Morrell, the person who wrote the letter, as to where this came from. And it came

00:12:08.160 from Antony Blinken. And why at Antony Blinken, our current Secretary of State, and why that is so

00:12:13.980 significant to me is that this gentleman who has now taken a note of office that he will uphold the

00:12:19.780 Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, clearly he was, had his fingers

00:12:25.720 crossed behind his back when he was saying that, because he knew he was going to work for some,

00:12:30.500 for the, for, for the Biden crime family. He knew he was going to be Secretary of State to a gentleman

00:12:36.360 who had been completely compromised by the Chinese Communist Party and by the Ukraine government and by

00:12:42.020 others. So we have a situation where the person who is responsible for our foreign policy

00:12:47.680 fully knows that the person he's working with is corrupt and is part of a corrupt family. Yet he

00:12:55.580 went ahead and did it. So for me, what I keep thinking about is at one, at what point do any of

00:13:02.700 these people care enough about the United States of America that their loyalty to us, to our Constitution,

00:13:10.320 to the citizens here, to our freedoms, at what point does that loyalty ever take a front seat in terms

00:13:18.940 of the decisions they make? Because we now know that Antony Blinken was willing to compromise himself

00:13:24.900 and at least 51 other former intelligence people to try to bury the Hunter laptop story because they

00:13:31.340 knew what was on that laptop. And that scares me.

00:13:34.400 And it should scare everyone in this country. 51 former intelligence officials and veterans of

00:13:41.900 these agencies, including five former directors and one acting director, Mike Murrell, as you just

00:13:48.840 said, who had the temerity to acknowledge that he did that at the behest of the Biden campaign.

00:13:58.600 And everybody knew that that's what had happened. We just didn't understand quite the specific

00:14:03.560 architecture of it. And then to find out that it was quite enough that they just simply wanted

00:14:09.180 Biden to be president of the United States, no matter what the lies were that they had to put

00:14:13.360 before the American people. Not one of them has recanted. By the way, it's important that everybody

00:14:18.600 remember President Obama was in office. These were his intelligence people's officials making these

00:14:26.160 rounds and doing so obviously under his imprimatur. And not one person in the national left-wing media

00:14:34.340 has taken note of that either. This is a crime against the nation, whether it is criminal. And

00:14:40.780 you're the attorney. You tell me if you can't be prosecuted for this, for changing history, because they

00:14:48.900 stole the election through those actions with that letter and giving him a shield, Biden a shield,

00:14:56.620 against the charge of all that was contained in the Hunter Biden laptop. They lied. They put President

00:15:05.160 Trump on that debate stage in an impossible situation. It's just, is there a crime here?

00:15:11.780 You know, I don't know the answer to that other than to say that it was such an astounding level

00:15:18.080 of disinformation and misinformation. And as you said, the outcome of the election was changed as a

00:15:23.980 result. So I've been saying for years that the 2020 election was rigged. And what I refer to in that

00:15:29.780 is the $500 million from Zuckerberg of get out the vote campaign, get out the Democrat vote campaign,

00:15:36.660 the Hunter Biden, the suppression of the Hunter Biden laptop, and why the Hunter Biden laptop is so

00:15:41.760 incredibly significant is because the Biden family we're finding now, we're laundering money from

00:15:48.200 the CCP, from the Chinese Communist Party through at least 12 members of that family that they were

00:15:53.940 receiving the money directly. So what you've got is, well, you were, they were receiving the money

00:15:58.840 through a variety of LLCs that they had set up for the purpose of laundering that money. And we have

00:16:05.080 someone who it was, it was happening while he was vice president. And then it was happening while he

00:16:10.060 was candidate, a candidate. So then we have all these situations happening with China, the Chinese 0.94

00:16:15.400 spy balloon, the fact that they won't come clean on the origins origins of the of the COVID-19 virus,

00:16:21.920 all of those things. And we have an administration that's completely mom. So what that tells me is

00:16:27.220 that he's been paid for lock, stock and barrel by the Chinese Communist Party. But we're the ones who

00:16:32.180 are suffering the consequences. And Antony Blinken needs to answer for that. I am demanding that he come

00:16:37.840 before our Judiciary Committee, go under oath and answer the questions as to what he's done.

00:16:43.180 And I think we need to ask him about the decisions that have been made in the last two years

00:16:47.100 to benefit a foreign adversary as as compared to the United States.

00:16:52.140 We'll continue with Congresswoman Harriet Hageman next here on The Great America Show. Stay with us.

00:16:58.980 A quick message from our sponsor. We'll be right back.

00:17:01.600 We're back with Congresswoman Harriet Hageman and the Congresswoman just laying out what she wants

00:17:09.160 Tony Blinken to do, which is to appear before the Judiciary Committee on which she she sits.

00:17:16.360 Give us your thoughts about what you think will be the response to your suggestion that he appear

00:17:22.280 before your committee. Well, we know from this administration that they don't believe in

00:17:27.860 legislative oversight. And I think that's been one of the more surprising aspects of being in Congress

00:17:33.300 is we all go back to our education from when we were young, that we have three branches of government.

00:17:38.680 The only role of the executive branch is to carry out the laws as passed by the legislative branch,

00:17:43.660 in this case, Congress. And what we now have is we have almost a rogue government back here in

00:17:49.360 Washington, D.C. And that is that the executive branch and the administrative agencies do not believe

00:17:55.080 that they're answerable to Congress and they don't believe that they're answerable to the American

00:17:58.740 public. So what I would assume is, as I don't know if you knew, but there has been a letter on

00:18:03.780 April 20th sent by Jim Jordan as the chairman of the Committee on the Judiciary and Michael Turner as

00:18:09.740 chairman on the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence to Antony Blinken, asking him to produce a variety

00:18:15.560 of documents no later than May 5th in relation to this particular revelation that we now have.

00:18:22.880 So they're going to they're they're going to try to stonewall and then they're going to do what they 0.97

00:18:28.880 are best known for, which is deflect attention, try to create some kind of a crisis so that we look

00:18:35.200 elsewhere. I want you to think back from a couple of weeks ago when Jamie Comer on the oversight committee

00:18:40.600 announced that we do know that the Chinese Communist Party, there's documentation showing that they have

00:18:46.260 paid over a million dollars to the Biden family through these variety of LLCs. What happened that

00:18:54.440 same day? What happened the same day that he made that announcement? If you'll remember, it was leaked

00:19:00.080 that the district attorney in New York was going to indict President Trump. So this is just exactly like

00:19:06.080 the 51 intel, allegedly intelligent intelligence officials who signed that letter. All of this is

00:19:13.840 about deflection. So the moment that there was going to be something that was revealed about the

00:19:18.520 Biden's that the mainstream media was actually going to have to cover, you had a leak of the of the of

00:19:25.980 the situation in New York City. Well, that indictment is totally bogus. We know that it was a cut and paste

00:19:31.680 job for 34 different counts. He doesn't have the jurisdiction. It's most likely going to be thrown

00:19:37.500 out. He won't be that President Trump won't be prosecuted. But what that did is it gave the

00:19:42.520 mainstream media the ability to deflect attention from the Biden's. So what do I think is going to

00:19:47.700 happen with this situation with Blinken? I think you're going to continue to see more crises. You're

00:19:52.260 going to see more leaks. You're going to see more of a situation of please follow the bouncy,

00:19:57.000 the shiny bouncing ball over there. But I think the American people are becoming wise to that.

00:20:02.560 I know that I am. I know that anytime you have them come out, why would they leak that they were

00:20:07.680 going to indict Donald Trump? They didn't even they didn't even file the papers for another 10 days.

00:20:13.200 Why did they leak it when they leaked it? They leaked it because they had to deflect attention

00:20:17.020 from Comer's work and it worked. The press won't cover it. So that's what I think you're going to see

00:20:22.900 as a continuing effort to try to avoid having him answer for what he did. But, you know, I'm like

00:20:30.060 a dog with a bone. We're going to keep going after this. We've got to expose what these corruptocrats 1.00

00:20:34.460 have done. Well, these corruptocrats, as you call them, have done a lot of damage to this country

00:20:40.840 already. The massive spending, the omnibus bill, which Mitch McConnell and I want to keep this in

00:20:46.440 front of everybody. Senator Mitch McConnell, the majority leader, went along with and made it possible

00:20:51.100 for the 118th Congress not to be able to exercise budgetary control and influence and direction,

00:20:57.540 which was its responsibility because of the omnibus bill that he agreed to and the massive

00:21:04.060 spending bills, including the Inflation Reduction Act and other various spending bills. The country is

00:21:14.160 just mired now in debt deficits that are going to run one and a half trillion dollars in this fiscal

00:21:21.060 year that will run two trillion. Think about this, folks, two trillion dollars a year for years to

00:21:27.540 come unless something can be done. The Republicans want to shut that down. They think that the way to

00:21:33.880 get there is through exercising good judgment and and leverage over the White House in the debt ceiling.

00:21:42.380 I would at this point, Congresswoman, I don't know how that's going. I know that McCarthy has said to

00:21:50.420 Biden, let's negotiate. And Biden has said, you go where? Where are we today? So one of the things

00:21:57.820 that we're trying to do, and I support this approach, we are going to be taking up, I believe it's tomorrow,

00:22:02.900 the Limit Save Grow Act, and that's with the House of Representatives. And there's a lot of really

00:22:09.080 good things in this bill. H.R. 1, our entire energy bill is included in in this proposal. There's quite

00:22:16.860 a bit in terms of limiting future spending. So you talked about the omnibus spending bill that was done

00:22:23.020 by the U.S. Senate, including with 18 Republicans, to prevent the more conservative House of Representatives

00:22:28.380 from being able to rein in spending. And so I'm pretty angry about that, too. Lou, I'm glad that

00:22:33.560 you mentioned that, because more people need to know that the Republicans sold us down the river

00:22:37.600 on that one as well. But we're also looking at saving taxpayer money, and we're looking at growing

00:22:42.700 the economy by introducing things like the RAINS Act, which would limit the kind of overreach that we

00:22:48.260 see from these bureaucracies in Washington, D.C. One of the things to keep in mind when you throw your

00:22:53.440 numbers out there is the first trillion dollar budget was in the late 1980s. That was the first

00:22:58.780 trillion dollar budget. That was a little over 30 years ago. And we are now where we have a president

00:23:05.260 that just submitted a seven trillion dollar budget. So what does that tell you about the expansion of

00:23:11.920 government? And I keep saying, look, if a bigger government is spending more money, solve the problems.

00:23:16.600 We wouldn't have any problems, would we? I mean, the fact is, is that this overspending is creating

00:23:21.580 the problems. Inflation. It is, it's empowering people to go out and try to destroy our small

00:23:27.720 businesses. It's affecting the middle class. It's, it's reducing our standard of living. Hell, it's 0.98

00:23:33.340 reducing the, our life expectancy because of the bad policies coming out of Washington, D.C.

00:23:38.920 So obviously overspending and spending more and stockpiling more power in D.C. and laundering more

00:23:45.180 money through D.C. isn't the solution. We've got to find a different paradigm and we need to take power

00:23:50.960 and get it back to the states. And we need to stop empowering people like Joe Biden with giving him

00:23:56.960 just literally a blank check to make every bad policy he can possibly think of.

00:24:02.300 Well, it's, it is a battle that the Republicans haven't won in seven tries by my count. And I, I think,

00:24:10.200 you know, I, I urged the Republican party not to, to get into this fight, but once you're in it,

00:24:15.720 I'm all for you. Uh, I, I will do everything to support, uh, the Republican party in, in this,

00:24:21.960 uh, I just hope that there is, uh, there is some magic sauce that the leadership of the GOP in the

00:24:29.640 house can find to win it, uh, because it's that critical. You're correct about the future of the

00:24:34.860 Republican, by the way, my straight line extrapolation one for what you just said is the budget, uh, 40 years

00:24:41.540 hints, uh, if we follow this straight line extrapolation from the eighties will be in excess

00:24:47.520 of $50 trillion, just, just for the, the budget of the United States. Uh, we have an economy that's

00:24:55.780 only half that size right now. Uh, it is madness. We're the largest detonation in world history.

00:25:03.240 We need to knock it off. Congresswoman Harriet Hageman. She is the representative of the great 0.99

00:25:09.040 state of Wyoming. And folks, I think you're probably like me. You're awfully grateful that

00:25:14.540 Wyoming, uh, sent her to us, uh, in Washington, DC. Congresswoman, thanks for being with us. We

00:25:20.740 thank you so much and God bless you. Thank you, Lou. God bless you as well.

00:25:25.840 Congresswoman Hageman, a star in the 118th Congress, and she's also on the Natural Resources

00:25:31.480 Committee and she chairs the Indian and Insular Affairs Subcommittee. And thank you everybody for

00:25:37.640 being with us. I want to share with you our quotation of the day now with all that's happening these

00:25:43.540 days, lawsuits against free speech, the powerful preempting free expression, and too few speaking

00:25:50.040 truth to power. Today's quotation is from Benjamin Franklin. Franklin said this,

00:25:57.280 without freedom of thought, there can be no such thing as wisdom and no such thing as public liberty

00:26:03.420 without freedom of speech. From Benjamin Franklin. And our guest Monday is Congressman Jim Jordan,

00:26:10.640 the chairman of the House Judiciary Committee and the Weaponization of Government Subcommittee.

00:26:16.260 That's Monday. Please join us. Until then, have a great weekend. Look for our update over the weekend.

00:26:22.940 And thank you for joining us. God bless you and God bless America.

The Great America Show - April 28, 2023

BIDEN IS THE LARGEST HUMAN TRAFFICKER AND DRUG SMUGGLER IN AMERICAN HISTORY, SAYS REP. HARRIET HAGEMAN

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