The Great America Show - April 27, 2023


WHEN THE FBI PUT HIM IN LEG IRONS, PETER NAVARRO REALIZED THE FBI IS A CORRUPT AND PARTISAN AGENCY


Episode Stats

Length

39 minutes

Words per Minute

142.87656

Word Count

5,609

Sentence Count

380

Misogynist Sentences

3

Hate Speech Sentences

13


Summary

Peter Navarro is the only person in history to ever be charged with contempt of Congress for asserting presidential executive privilege, and he did it in order to protect himself from prosecution. He is now the target of the Biden administration and the FBI, and they want him to testify before Congress.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs, and welcome to The Great America Show. Great to have you with us.
00:00:05.900 And today we take up a nation that is not only divided, but perhaps irreparably so.
00:00:11.980 We have a government, a federal government, that tells us they want to protect us,
00:00:16.820 you and me, the citizens from disinformation. Yes, there's that word again, disinformation.
00:00:23.480 But what we've learned over the past number of years is that our federal government
00:00:27.860 is lying to us in the name of protecting us from disinformation.
00:00:32.620 In fact, our government, our politicians and bureaucrats, the deep state,
00:00:37.980 well, they're the greatest source of disinformation in all of America.
00:00:42.840 Aim straight at us, our government lying to us, it seems nonstop.
00:00:48.140 The federal government has been lying to us, of course, in all sorts of ways for a very long time.
00:00:53.220 And no, it didn't start with the JFK assassination.
00:00:57.860 Although that was a big one.
00:00:59.680 No, it goes all the way back to 1947, when the flying disc was spotted flying over Roswell, New Mexico.
00:01:08.340 That year, the first official report of a flying saucer was filed by the FBI.
00:01:14.080 In fact, the Dallas Field Office reported it on July 8th of 1947.
00:01:19.900 Dallas was the nearest field office to the U.S. Army Air Base outside Roswell.
00:01:25.100 The wreckage of the so-called flying saucer was described also as a flying disc,
00:01:30.700 also as a high-altitude weather balloon, and ultimately as an unidentified flying object.
00:01:37.920 Interestingly, and perhaps only coincidentally,
00:01:41.020 the Central Intelligence Agency was born just over two months later, September 18, 1947.
00:01:48.140 Also, coincidentally, perhaps, Roswell Army Airfield was one of the largest bases in the newly formed Strategic Air Command,
00:01:58.500 that is, the U.S. Nuclear Strike Force.
00:02:01.760 But we digress.
00:02:03.120 And the next big lie was that of President Eisenhower in 1960.
00:02:07.880 The Soviets shot down one of our U-2 spy planes on the 1st of May that year,
00:02:14.100 and eventually, President Eisenhower was caught up in a public lie.
00:02:19.000 His administration tried to cover it up as a NASA high-altitude weather flight.
00:02:25.560 A high-altitude weather flight.
00:02:27.900 Does that sound familiar?
00:02:29.400 But then came the news that the pilot, Gary Powers, had survived the crash,
00:02:33.940 and the United States government had to fess up that it was a CIA surveillance mission over the Soviet Union.
00:02:42.860 And Nikita Khrushchev mocked the American president for not being able to control his bureaucrats.
00:02:49.360 In particular, the top officials of the CIA.
00:02:53.660 That also sounds a little familiar, doesn't it?
00:02:56.020 And still, the lies fly, up to and including the lies of 51 intel veterans
00:03:02.880 who signed that infamous letter just before the 2020 election,
00:03:08.380 which dismissed the Hunter Biden laptop as Russian disinformation,
00:03:13.760 originating with more out-of-control bureaucrats, and of course, not coincidentally, the CIA.
00:03:20.060 The Marxist stems in the deep state, the permanent bureaucracy, are now truly out of control.
00:03:26.620 A power unto themselves, trying to frame first a candidate, and then a president.
00:03:32.100 Trying to overthrow President Trump, and ultimately conspiring to cheat him of his re-election in 2020.
00:03:40.500 Present through all of it, Senior Presidential Advisor Peter Navarro,
00:03:44.660 President Trump's Director of Trade,
00:03:46.320 and now a target of the January 6th Committee and the Biden Justice Department.
00:03:52.620 Peter, treated outrageously by prosecutors and the FBI,
00:03:56.980 charged with contempt of Congress for asserting presidential executive privilege.
00:04:02.400 Peter, great to have you back with us, my friend.
00:04:04.780 Welcome back to The Great America Show.
00:04:07.860 You know, my brother Dobbs, we are trying to keep America great,
00:04:11.280 or at least make it great again, as the boss might say.
00:04:14.500 Amen, brother.
00:04:17.180 So, that's an uphill work, as everybody knows, and right now,
00:04:20.960 I'd like to start with where you stand with the radical Marxist Dems' attempts to silence you
00:04:29.720 and attack you because you were the president's outstanding assistant to the president.
00:04:36.840 Lou, interestingly enough, I have achieved my own unique place in history, okay?
00:04:45.700 And here it is.
00:04:47.060 I am the only Senior White House Advisor in the history of our entire republic
00:04:52.580 to ever be charged with contempt of Congress.
00:04:55.400 The only one.
00:04:56.500 And there's a good reason for that, Lou.
00:04:59.220 It's because the policy of the Department of Justice itself going back 50 years
00:05:05.220 says that people like me, alter egos of the president at the highest echelons of White House decision-making,
00:05:14.160 can't be compelled to testify before Congress.
00:05:17.460 The radical Dems, the FBI that put me in leg irons, the Department of Injustice that singled me out for prosecution,
00:05:31.540 the Biden White House, and the old Pelosi Congress all have basically surrounded me and saddled me already.
00:05:41.740 You know, look, even if I win this, which I should because I'm on the right side of the law, it's over a million dollars.
00:05:51.040 So that's what they do.
00:05:52.240 It's a lawfare.
00:05:53.520 It's the use of our legal system for political ends.
00:05:56.700 And they target, you know, everybody, virtually everybody I serve with in the Trump White House
00:06:05.360 is under some kind of investigation, subpoena, harassment by the Biden regime.
00:06:16.060 I mean, think about that.
00:06:17.000 Every single one of us, Meadows, Scavino, Cipollone, the White House legal counsel, Robert O'Brien,
00:06:26.080 I mean, you name it, you know, the subpoenas have been flying and sometimes the indictments.
00:06:32.720 And that's just wrong.
00:06:33.800 I mean, the weaponization of our justice system.
00:06:36.460 And look, I'm hoping, I'm hoping that the Republican Congress with its committee will get to the bottom of that.
00:06:45.140 But frankly, I'm not sanguine about that.
00:06:50.040 You know the problem, Lou.
00:06:51.640 A lot of talk, not a lot of work.
00:06:54.120 Yeah, it's a sad commentary.
00:06:57.240 What you've shared with us is is both alarming and, you know, unsurprising, if that isn't, you know, too contradictory,
00:07:07.580 because we have seen what is happening.
00:07:10.200 And I have to ask, you don't have to answer this, but where are people raising a million dollars?
00:07:16.560 How are they getting it?
00:07:17.780 Is it coming from Donald Trump?
00:07:19.540 Is it coming from the Donald Trump campaign?
00:07:22.040 Is it coming from the Republican National Committee?
00:07:25.140 Who is standing up for our people who served this great president honorably, effectively, and historically against what is a flat-out barbaric Marxist assault on this republic?
00:07:44.160 Well, let me first point out, in lawfare, again, the goal often isn't necessarily to get the conviction.
00:07:52.420 It's to drain you of funds.
00:07:54.880 And so every dollar that I have to raise from the deplorables from MAGA or through, for example, the Trump campaign is a dollar we won't be able to spend on the 2024 presidential race, okay?
00:08:09.980 I've been fortunate so far.
00:08:13.980 I have a legal defense fund.
00:08:16.840 It's defendpeter.com.
00:08:19.340 And it's on a really kind of interesting website.
00:08:24.000 It's this thing called Give, Send, Go, which is a Christian-based platform that will allow you to raise funds in small donations without harassment.
00:08:34.960 And a lot of these crowdfunding sources have turned out to be woke, progressive, left-wing, like you try to raise some money on them, they steal it from you.
00:08:45.540 But the Give, Send, Go, I can't, this guy runs, is a guy named Jacob Wells, just a wonderful human being.
00:08:53.800 And I've been able to raise over $200,000 on that so far, but I've got a long way to go.
00:09:01.020 So I keep working at defendpeter.com, and it's like, it's working.
00:09:06.000 But Mike, I've got to emphasize here in the game of lawfare, Lou, it's like when they make you spend that money and your time, it's money and time away from the mission, which is making America great again.
00:09:20.740 The other thing I should tell you, Lou, it's like it's very interesting, the lawyer pool, right?
00:09:25.560 You need good lawyers, right?
00:09:27.260 I'm fighting the biggest law firm in the world.
00:09:29.940 Do you know that the Department of Injustice is the biggest law firm in the world?
00:09:34.660 I mean, they throw more lawyers at me than you could shake a stick at, right?
00:09:41.140 Yeah.
00:09:41.680 And on our side, here's the point.
00:09:45.820 It's like there's not a lot of lawyers who are willing to work for people like me, right?
00:09:53.380 The white shoe guys, the Bill Barrs, the Don McGanns, those guys in D.C.
00:10:00.740 who, you know, like the bread and butter with the Rhino Republicans and the corporates, they won't touch us.
00:10:08.540 So it's like we're all, I mean, even if you get the money, it's hard to find good legal talent.
00:10:15.960 I'm blessed with some really good legal representation, but I got lucky doing my homework.
00:10:26.240 You know, chance favors the prepared mind, but it's just not a good situation.
00:10:32.080 Well, it's also part of lawfare is that they have taken over big law.
00:10:37.460 They are not only trying to bankrupt everyone that they charge or sue.
00:10:43.640 They are, in point of fact, dividing the legal profession between the preponderance of the representation, which is Marxist left.
00:10:55.020 And I mean, Marxist left in this country.
00:10:57.640 The corporates, as you called them, the corporates through their HR departments initially and now throughout their line divisions, whether they're in finance, whether they're in manufacturing services.
00:11:09.080 It doesn't matter. Technology, they are Marxist left.
00:11:13.960 I'm not talking about left. I'm not talking about progressive. I'm not talking about liberal.
00:11:18.120 I'm talking about Marxist in their politics, their activism.
00:11:23.120 They are fully charged. And you're talking about the biggest law firm in the world being the Department of Justice.
00:11:28.240 I guess the law equivalent of iCloud is what they've done to every firm in the country.
00:11:38.640 They are connected. They are bound.
00:11:41.360 And they are committed to serving those corporate customers, which are, of course, the wealthiest and the majority source of their income.
00:11:50.680 It is it's stunning and terrible stuff. And you're right that the quality of representation is difficult.
00:11:58.380 But the Republicans have sat on their hands.
00:12:01.740 They've watched this go on now for, what, 10 years and haven't responded.
00:12:06.140 There isn't a law firm that I know of that's Republican that also has a portal into the FBI.
00:12:11.600 That's because the FBI is corrupt, politically corrupt, to the bone.
00:12:17.940 And now they've also got, what, four shows talking about on television, talking about what great people they are.
00:12:24.820 I mean, I'm not buying it.
00:12:26.980 The FBI is anti-American, and it's that simple.
00:12:32.200 Your thoughts?
00:12:32.840 Well, Lou, the day they put me in leg irons, terrorized a loved one of mine at the airport, when none of that was necessary,
00:12:46.760 was the day I finally, finally, finally understood firsthand that the FBI is a corrupt, partisan institution.
00:13:00.220 And, you know, I mean, it goes back a long time to the culture of J. Edgar Hoover, who used the FBI to investigate people on the right and the left,
00:13:12.180 whether it was Nixon or Kennedy or Martin Luther King or Bobby Kennedy.
00:13:18.740 I mean, it's an inbred culture.
00:13:20.960 And, look, this weapon, I think the big picture here for your listeners, Lou.
00:13:25.860 Okay, wait a minute, Peter, Peter, Peter, we're going to have a cliffhanger here.
00:13:32.720 The big picture, Peter Navarro is going to share it with us on the other side of this commercial break.
00:13:37.500 We're talking with Peter Navarro, former special assistant to the president, President Trump, and host of the all-new podcast, Taking Back Trump's America.
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00:13:49.120 We're back now.
00:13:51.780 We're talking with former presidential assistant, Peter Navarro.
00:13:55.620 And you were talking big picture, Peter, just before we took our commercial break.
00:14:01.180 Tell us about the big picture.
00:14:03.580 Well, look, the big picture, Lou, is that we've got a weaponized government,
00:14:09.020 and the FBI is like the tip of the spear for the Department of Injustice and the partisans on the Hill and now in the White House.
00:14:21.680 And I think what's interesting about my situation and the parallels with Donald Trump,
00:14:27.160 it's kind of a very unique position with Donald Trump.
00:14:30.820 I mean, he's the first president in our history ever to be indicted criminally.
00:14:38.780 And I'm the first senior advisor to ever be held in contempt of Congress.
00:14:45.120 They, the FBI itself, unnecessarily did its, you know, midnight raid, armed FBI agents at Mar-a-Wago.
00:14:54.380 It was an assault on President Trump's property.
00:14:57.000 They sent five armed FBI agents after me at the airport when all I could have done was just give me a phone call
00:15:05.380 and say, hey, you've got a warrant, come on in.
00:15:08.980 Armed FBI agents, so we share that.
00:15:12.980 And I think we can't have a country where we have a justice system that's broken down on partisan lines.
00:15:25.300 And if you just compare it to what's going on in Pakistan or Nigeria or Brazil, it's not unlike what's happening here.
00:15:37.060 You use, you know, as soon as you, like, defeat your rival, often by fraudulent means at the ballot box,
00:15:46.180 then you try to make sure that they can't run again, okay?
00:15:51.460 And maybe you put them in prison.
00:15:53.200 And that's what's going on now.
00:15:54.560 And it's like, you know, my mission, what I'm trying to do, Lou, is I fight that battle.
00:16:01.740 I'm looking ahead to the 2024 presidential election.
00:16:07.080 And I figured out, look, I'm canceled on Fox.
00:16:11.600 I'm canceled on MSNBC.
00:16:13.980 I'm canceled on CNN.
00:16:15.460 I'm sanctioned by the Chinese Communist Party.
00:16:17.900 And I'm being prosecuted by the Biden White House.
00:16:20.680 I mean, you can tell somebody's integrity by the enemies he has.
00:16:25.900 I mean, I got a lot of integrity based on who's out to get me, right?
00:16:30.940 But what I'm trying to do here is to get Donald Trump and MAGA principals back in the White House and to take full control of Congress.
00:16:41.760 And I figured out that the best way for me to do that is through the podcast and Substack and talking to folks like you and then going on Newsmax and the War Room,
00:16:52.380 which welcomed me with open arms there to just get the message out.
00:16:57.680 And that leverages my skills the best way in this cancel culture environment.
00:17:05.200 It's a said commentary that Fox, I mean, Fox News, I mean, you know, I'm going to cancel you, I'm going to cancel me.
00:17:12.540 They don't want to hear the truth about communist China.
00:17:16.960 They don't want to hear the truth about election fraud.
00:17:20.540 They didn't want to hear the truth about Tony Fauci because Big Pharma pays half their bills.
00:17:26.260 And folks who speak truth to power are not really welcome there.
00:17:32.100 And, you know, there's a lot of fraud going on.
00:17:35.520 I mean, at least CNN and MSNBC wear their Marxism on their sleeve.
00:17:43.460 And we all know where they are coming from.
00:17:45.560 Fox tries to hide behind that facade of conservatism when we all know it's just a bunch of bulls.
00:17:53.560 Well, as you might guess, I'm not too interested in talking about Fox.
00:17:59.440 But then again, I'm also not too interested in arguing about it either, if you take my point.
00:18:06.440 Let's talk about China.
00:18:08.560 And, you know, the Justice Department has discovered that there are police stations run by the CCP in the United States.
00:18:19.560 And they had the courage to arrest two people who were running a police station for the CCP in Chinatown in New York.
00:18:30.400 And you're not going to believe this.
00:18:33.760 I swear, Peter, they found another six police stations.
00:18:37.420 Now, I think that means there must be 60 or 70 of them in the country.
00:18:41.880 We've known about this for years.
00:18:44.020 They haven't done anything about it.
00:18:45.580 And this administration, the first thing it did upon getting into office by hook or crook,
00:18:51.540 was to shut down the Enforcement Task Force against the CCP in the United States.
00:18:59.580 What do you make of it?
00:19:02.820 Well, one of the most surreal days I ever spent in my life was a day in New York City with a Chinese dissident.
00:19:11.000 And we moved around in that city with three heavily armed guards in a car which was fully up-armored.
00:19:21.880 And I was thinking to myself, boy, this dude is paranoid.
00:19:27.220 But the more I learned about how the Chinese Communist Party operates on U.S. soil,
00:19:35.120 effectively, to rendition dissidents, the more I understood that his paranoia was legitimate concern.
00:19:45.080 Now, I'll take you over to the left coast, over to the University of California, Irvine, in Orange County,
00:19:52.600 where I spent 25 years there.
00:19:55.280 And we had just a lot of Chinese students there.
00:20:00.100 And most of them were sons and daughters of Communist Chinese Party members.
00:20:04.700 You know, they're the ones that, you know, the elites in their society.
00:20:11.340 And every one of these universities that have large Chinese Communist students
00:20:17.540 has effectively a jailer, an enforcer, that makes sure that those kids do two things.
00:20:26.900 One, is that they don't get deduced by American democratic principles and culture.
00:20:36.080 And two, that they keep their nose at a grindstone trying to steal as much information,
00:20:41.920 including science and technology information, as they possibly can.
00:20:46.260 And that's what we're up against.
00:20:48.100 And look, Lou, you and I, you go, I think you probably predate me on this whole thing.
00:20:53.960 But, you know, I go back to the trilogy I wrote on Communist China and started in 2006 coming China Wars.
00:21:01.240 And you can read that today and put a pub date of 2023.
00:21:07.700 And, you know, it's like it'd be what people are talking about today, which is a sad commentary.
00:21:12.520 Because it's like we go for years, and people know that China's stealing us blind, that they're trying to buy our farmland,
00:21:23.340 they're trying to buy our office buildings, they're trying to land near our military installations.
00:21:28.020 We're trying to spy buildings, all this stuff, and we do nothing.
00:21:31.220 We just talk about it.
00:21:33.060 Peter, you've got to recognize progress when it's staring you right in the face.
00:21:37.340 You're talking about them buying farmland, you're talking about them buying real estate.
00:21:41.960 They're stealing $600 billion a year in intellectual property and technology from the United States every year
00:21:47.880 and have been doing it for 20 years.
00:21:49.280 I think it's progress when they start actually paying for something.
00:21:53.080 Don't you?
00:21:53.840 You've got to give them credit.
00:21:57.580 Yeah, here we go.
00:21:58.940 All right.
00:21:59.220 But the other part of that story is we've known for 30 years that they had front companies operating in the United States.
00:22:06.700 We have known for 30 years that they had spies all over the place, and we have done nothing about it.
00:22:13.900 Now, you can guess about why that's the case.
00:22:17.320 You can try to investigate it.
00:22:19.760 But the answer is always the same.
00:22:22.420 That means there's corruption in our government, and there is corruption throughout our corporate America and Wall Street,
00:22:32.100 because there's no other way you can explain this.
00:22:34.220 It's the same way with the open border with Mexico.
00:22:38.540 You don't have a president walk into the office of the United States in the White House,
00:22:45.240 order the removal of the border patrol from that 2,000-mile border without there being some alignment
00:22:53.220 between the drug cartels that are shipping illegal, deadly drugs, illegal immigrants across that border,
00:23:02.620 sex trafficking, and distributing it.
00:23:05.020 There's pure alignment, and you know cartels have corrupted the northern side of that border
00:23:11.240 just as well as they have the southern.
00:23:13.520 Yes.
00:23:13.600 So it's staring us all in the face, and we want to believe something about rabbits and nice molasses
00:23:24.260 and popsicles.
00:23:28.820 It's got nothing to do with sugarcoating it.
00:23:32.300 The fact is we have a nation that is corrupt and is on the verge of losing this republic
00:23:38.280 because of the absolute incompetence and the corruptence that we have tolerated for so long.
00:23:47.160 Lou, with the communist Chinese, I think there's three main dynamics that go on.
00:23:53.380 There's the honeypots, the moneypots, and the naivete.
00:23:56.440 I think Hunter Biden is kind of the poster child for both the honeypots and the moneypots.
00:24:05.100 You know, he goes to communist China.
00:24:06.880 You've done it again, Peter.
00:24:08.580 You have arrived at a cliffhanger, and we're going to be right back, and we're going to talk honeypots and China pots
00:24:15.100 and whatever other kind of pots we can think of during this commercial break.
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00:24:34.140 You were talking about honeypots and somebody named Hunter Biden.
00:24:38.080 I believe he's been under investigation for about six, seven years now.
00:24:42.180 How's that going?
00:24:43.100 Well, the honeypot, moneypot strategy of the communist Chinese party is to ensnare people,
00:24:51.420 not just Americans.
00:24:52.360 It can be any foreigners that they want to extract secrets from or some kind of influence.
00:25:00.120 And the honeypot is, you know, obviously like what they did with Democrat Congressman Eric Swalwell
00:25:06.160 in California.
00:25:07.560 He's on the Intelligence Committee, and they hooked him up with a Chinese hooker, effectively.
00:25:13.700 That's the honeypot.
00:25:14.600 The moneypot is, you know, that operates, you know, it's like they hire you to go do a big speech
00:25:21.420 or they invite you over to China to talk to a university or they shower you somehow with money.
00:25:27.820 And in exchange for that, it's quid pro quo.
00:25:32.500 Americans give them secrets and cooperation and all of that.
00:25:38.300 The naivete is the other way it works.
00:25:41.820 It doesn't work that way anymore.
00:25:43.760 But when I first started doing this and writing my books, Lou, I'd go give these corporate
00:25:50.180 speeches at these trade associations and where these American manufacturers would have gone
00:25:57.420 over with their blueprints to China and set up like factories over there thinking that they
00:26:03.700 were going to ship their goods back to Walmart, make a bunch of money off the slave labor.
00:26:08.140 And the next thing they know, and they tell me about it, sometimes in tears, is that they
00:26:13.980 went over there and the next thing they knew, the Chinese just took all their blueprints and
00:26:20.100 made their own factories and cut them out.
00:26:22.780 It's a whole deal.
00:26:24.460 Peter, you know how dumb, how dumb corporate America is?
00:26:29.300 They go over there because they want the cheap labor.
00:26:32.840 They build their plants.
00:26:33.720 They produce their factories.
00:26:35.200 And I'm talking about Apple.
00:26:36.320 I'm talking about Tesla.
00:26:37.600 I'm talking about the creme de la creme of American enterprise.
00:26:43.040 And guess what?
00:26:43.720 They know 100% that as soon as they step in there, everything is being reversed engineered.
00:26:51.860 They have just turned over their technology and their capacity for innovation and production.
00:26:58.120 And that within five years, there will be competing, a Chinese company competing that is every bit
00:27:04.840 as good as they are or better.
00:27:06.680 And that is how smart corporate America is and the people that we've had in that White House
00:27:13.060 for the last 30 years.
00:27:15.420 It's with the exception of the Trump administration.
00:27:18.020 It is stunning to me to look at the witless nincompoops that we have put into the White House
00:27:25.320 who did not understand the impact of what they're doing.
00:27:28.800 The witless nincompoops who run corporate America get 400 times the average pay of their employees
00:27:36.940 in that corporation, 400 times or more, and think they're big shots and geniuses.
00:27:42.540 Meanwhile, they are destroying America.
00:27:44.720 And it's just insufferable what we've permitted to grow up in this country.
00:27:50.100 And then we have a group of people called libertarians in this country who don't want us to do anything
00:27:54.380 socially responsible or remotely rational in defending our nation, assuring our national security.
00:28:03.760 This is a country filled with conflicted and absolutely incompetent geopolitical thinkers.
00:28:12.060 And, by the way, corporate leaders, especially corporate leaders, your thoughts?
00:28:19.360 I'll bet you a lot of money back when you were in the day, had your show on TV.
00:28:26.400 Well, it was only two years.
00:28:28.240 It was only, it was only, oh, you mean way back in the day.
00:28:31.760 I bet you had Jeff Emel from GE, okay?
00:28:35.640 GE, to me, is the worst and best example.
00:28:40.460 Well, first of all, I've got to tell you this.
00:28:42.120 Do you put Americans going over and ruining a company?
00:28:45.620 You lose on that.
00:28:47.260 Wait a minute, Peter.
00:28:48.760 Wait a minute.
00:28:49.380 Wait a minute.
00:28:49.740 Because I have to correct you.
00:28:51.560 You lose your bet.
00:28:52.920 I didn't put Jeffrey Emel on my show.
00:28:54.940 Oh, good.
00:28:55.220 As a matter of fact.
00:28:57.120 But there's a reason for that.
00:28:58.560 I called him out.
00:28:59.580 Good for you.
00:29:00.820 Yes, correct.
00:29:02.140 And, by the way, I've been, but to be clear, I've been blackballed by Republicans,
00:29:07.980 and I've been blackballed by Democrats because the leadership, whether it's the Bush administration,
00:29:13.760 the Obama, or the Biden administration, what they're doing is just unconscionable to this
00:29:19.420 country, and it's staring everybody in the face, and it always has been.
00:29:22.380 We either protect our middle class, those who aspire to it, and make this a prosperous
00:29:28.560 country that is united around our core values as a nation and a republic.
00:29:35.840 And, by the way, there's room in there for God, too.
00:29:40.060 The fact of the matter is Jeffrey Emel and his like, he didn't know what to do.
00:29:46.740 When Jack Welch left, he was just the anointed one, and it found out, you know, it takes a
00:29:53.540 little more than anointment to actually run a major industrial enterprise.
00:29:57.300 I went head-to-head with that guy on the floor of the stock exchange when I was giving a talk
00:30:04.960 at one of these big corporate gatherings, telling him what an idiot he was.
00:30:09.520 But I'll tell you what, the living modern embodiment of Jeff Emel today is Elon Musk and Tesla,
00:30:16.580 Tesla, because Tesla is like one Xi Jinping decision away from being flushed down the frigging toilet,
00:30:24.060 and Elon Musk is nothing but a useful idiot and puppet for the Chinese Communist Party,
00:30:30.640 because he doesn't dare do anything bad.
00:30:34.800 What about Tim Cook and Apple?
00:30:37.360 Yeah, well, come on.
00:30:38.720 They're the longest-running Chinese Communist Party show.
00:30:41.760 What about Ballmer when he was running Microsoft and Gates?
00:30:47.780 I mean, they're the ones, Microsoft, running like labs over in communist China to help them
00:30:53.720 do artificial intelligence to create drone armies to destroy the American military.
00:31:00.100 I mean, look, Lou, I mean, when are we going to wake up?
00:31:05.340 That's the question, okay?
00:31:06.700 You and I have been trying to get people woken up, but it ain't happening.
00:31:10.720 When people like you and me start talking to folks who will listen, you know,
00:31:16.720 there are not many people who are talking about these issues because they're going to lose their contracts,
00:31:22.120 their businesses, whatever, if they actually speak truth, because one way or another,
00:31:27.460 it always goes back to China.
00:31:29.900 For example, if you and I were in the big pharma business,
00:31:33.300 it's not likely we'd be saying much about Xi Jinping and the PLA and the CCP because 97%,
00:31:40.300 97% of our pharmaceutical ingredients as well as drugs come into this country from either India or China.
00:31:51.020 And we are so dependent.
00:31:52.760 I mean, a figure of about 40% of this country is China dependent just based on drugs alone.
00:31:59.760 And I'm just talking about the legal ones.
00:32:02.760 Well, I did do, I did draft and got signed an executive order to onshore our pharmaceutical production.
00:32:13.260 And President Trump signed that thing.
00:32:15.840 And Biden, of course, undid it.
00:32:20.260 But, I mean, if the pandemic taught us anything, it's like we're far too dependent on China in particular
00:32:29.900 and foreign sources in general for our medical needs.
00:32:34.140 I mean, it's just one more area where, go ahead.
00:32:40.720 I know that you were in charge of the Defense Production Act, and you did.
00:32:44.180 So that's a stopgap measure.
00:32:45.700 It was necessary in an emergency, and you did a terrific job.
00:32:50.480 But here's the reality.
00:32:51.860 When people talk about a supply chain, I can tell you right now there's only one.
00:32:56.880 They've just supplanted some language again.
00:32:59.140 Supply chain equals arbitrage.
00:33:01.600 Arbitrage for cheaper labor.
00:33:03.080 Arbitrage to avoid environmental requirements that we have in this country.
00:33:08.540 Arbitrage to avoid issues of expertise that we don't have.
00:33:14.760 We're talking about a world that sends its young people here to be educated.
00:33:19.660 And I look around, and I say, well, why the hell aren't Americans sitting in those chairs
00:33:23.660 throughout higher education academia?
00:33:29.280 And the reason is the Chinese are sending us a population of 1.4 billion people.
00:33:35.740 They are sending us their smartest and their best, and they're filling up those universities.
00:33:41.240 I'd take a great point.
00:33:43.520 And not just the students, Lou.
00:33:45.820 The faculty as well.
00:33:47.120 I mean, you come in, and you've got a lot of the business school, really, like the finance departments,
00:33:53.400 controlled by Chinese this year in America.
00:33:59.060 You know, you're talking about a chairmanship of a business school.
00:34:05.280 Is that what you're talking about?
00:34:07.080 Deanship.
00:34:07.820 No, I've got, like, okay, so the way it works is...
00:34:11.060 I know how it works.
00:34:11.880 I know how it works.
00:34:12.760 I'm trying to find out which schools.
00:34:14.200 You have, like, a finance faculty, right?
00:34:16.620 Right.
00:34:16.860 And so you get a few Chinese in on the faculty, and then when they recruit the next one, it's
00:34:24.580 another Chinese, and pretty soon the finance department is dominated by the Chinese.
00:34:33.660 And, you know, you just, I mean, it's not just the students.
00:34:37.800 That's the point.
00:34:38.320 And when you say Chinese, you're talking about Chinese nationals, correct?
00:34:42.240 Yes.
00:34:43.120 Yes.
00:34:43.520 And that is the problem, the fact that we are outsourcing our jobs for, you know, I laugh
00:34:52.300 because it's absurd.
00:34:54.480 We are outsourcing our jobs offshore.
00:34:56.940 Ford Motor is building a damn plant just across the border in Mexico right now.
00:35:02.320 People are going to be driving Ford vehicles that are built in Mexico rather than the United
00:35:07.180 States.
00:35:07.940 And you want to know why?
00:35:09.420 They have it easier on environmental regulations.
00:35:12.160 They have it easier on labor costs and labor conditions.
00:35:17.820 And we've got to say, I mean, I have to say, I am thrilled to see Americans stand up about
00:35:24.940 Anheuser-Busch.
00:35:26.180 I'm just thrilled about it because it shows there is that spark of life in patriots that
00:35:33.020 said, you know, I'm not going to take this crap anymore.
00:35:36.060 And by golly, if we can get that, keep that going, it'll be wonderful because corporate
00:35:44.540 America every day is running.
00:35:46.660 You know, the voice of America are those commercials everybody sees every, you know, in every sporting
00:35:51.480 event, their favorite sitcom, whatever it may be on television.
00:35:55.340 And they are portraying the American family as a bunch of idiots.
00:35:59.320 They are putting on woke nonsense that is pure crap.
00:36:04.020 And nobody has the guts to say it because they're going to get in trouble with their
00:36:08.280 HR department.
00:36:09.760 Diversity is our strength.
00:36:11.520 Diversity isn't our strength.
00:36:13.840 Diversity is the result of our strength.
00:36:16.560 And people have to understand it.
00:36:18.780 You've got to understand math.
00:36:20.400 You've got to read, write, and do arithmetic.
00:36:23.920 Educate yourselves and your children and make this a better country.
00:36:28.960 And don't listen to this woke nonsense because they're talking nonsense.
00:36:33.480 Diversity is our strength.
00:36:35.800 That diversity is the result of our strength.
00:36:38.460 It's a great nation and a great people.
00:36:40.780 But they want to run you down.
00:36:42.720 And so they want you to think that diversity is the strength.
00:36:46.920 It's our way of life that is our strength.
00:36:49.440 Peter Navarro, we always give our guests the last word.
00:36:52.220 This is your opportunity for your concluding thoughts.
00:36:55.640 Thanks for being with us, brother.
00:36:57.460 Lou, it's always a pleasure.
00:36:59.520 My mission simply is to be a cog in the wheel to take back Trump's America.
00:37:06.020 Trump's America is a place where God, country, and family rule.
00:37:10.400 And the Iron MAGA triangle of secure borders, a strong American manufacturing base, and an end to endless wars.
00:37:19.320 And I'm doing it through the podcast, the Substack at peternavarro.substack.com.
00:37:25.260 And my mission is to put Trump and Trumpism back in the White House, the Congress, and the Injustice Department.
00:37:36.180 And we'll just keep pushing, Lou, and something will eventually will either prevail or the Chinese communists will take over this country.
00:37:44.520 But I'm betting on the former.
00:37:46.340 Well, I'm betting on you and millions of patriots like you to make it work because we've got to take this country back.
00:37:56.000 That means, by the way, that we've got to make certain, you've got to make certain because of your proximity to the president day in and day out.
00:38:04.300 Man, let's get organization around him.
00:38:06.960 You know, he's got to have a campaign organization, but let's be presumptuous.
00:38:11.020 Let's make sure we've got an administrative organization around him ready to take control of this government and get it back on track as soon as he walks through the door to begin his term as the 47th president of the United States.
00:38:27.180 Peter Navarro, you're a great American.
00:38:28.760 I thank you so much.
00:38:29.640 Great talking with you.
00:38:30.380 Come back soon, my friend.
00:38:32.420 All right.
00:38:32.740 Back at you, Lou.
00:38:33.660 Lou Dobbs, the inimitable Lou Dobbs.
00:38:36.720 Peter Navarro, out.
00:38:38.340 Thanks, Peter Navarro.
00:38:39.740 A great American.
00:38:41.340 Here tomorrow, the latest on the congressional investigations into Joe Biden, his son Hunter, and what are now other Biden family members who are in some ways connected to the Biden influence peddling racket.
00:38:55.140 Our guest will be Congressman Jim Jordan, chairman of the House Judiciary Committee and the House Government Weaponization Subcommittee, and what they found so far in their investigation of the Biden regime.
00:39:09.580 Please join us here tomorrow.
00:39:10.860 Until then, thank you, God bless you, and God bless America.