The Marxist-leftist leadership of the Democratic Party conspired to not only block the election of a presidential candidate through an FBI investigation, but in full view of God and everybody plotted to overthrow Donald Trump s presidency after he was elected in 2016.
00:06:55.440And I know it kind of sounds egotistical, but for me, it represents the injustice that all Americans had to endure when intelligence agencies, federal agencies, mainstream media, social media, all colluded to suppress the story, to label me a Russian asset and a hacker.
00:07:13.340And keep this hidden from the people during a very important time of the year.
00:07:55.600And Hunter came in with three liquid-damaged MacBook Pros.
00:07:59.700And he wanted to get the data off the computer.
00:08:03.580And he looked like he had been having a pretty bad day.
00:08:07.540So I also noticed a Beau Biden Foundation sticker on one of the computers.
00:08:11.540So my instincts instantly shifted to that he just wants to get his deceased brother's personal files and information off of these computers.
00:08:20.320So I tried to facilitate as much help as I could where he could do it himself.
00:08:24.480I gave him a keyboard that he could take home to get beyond one of the liquid-damaged machines.
00:08:28.540Unfortunately, the other one was a complete write-off.
00:08:31.340Then left the third, which he had to check in with me.
00:09:46.240So if you play Scrabble, that's a big word score.
00:09:49.900And it just limits my ability to see past four or five feet clearly.
00:09:56.440So I didn't really know who he was until he told me who he was.
00:09:59.500But then once I transferred or started to transfer the data and I got to see some of the images and photos and videos that were on the laptop,
00:10:05.860I was pretty confident at that point that the owner of the machine was the same person I was looking at on this laptop.
00:10:12.680And I interrupted you and you were starting to clean the laptop up.
00:10:18.920Well, that stop-and-go process that I had to manually perform is how I was able to see what I saw
00:10:27.100because I had to manually verify, did this data come over?
00:12:23.260After it became my property, and with all the topic of Hunter and Burisma in the news, of course, curiosity led me to look into that specifically.
00:12:34.660That's when I saw a huge amount of money exchanging hands, a pay-for-play scheme that involved the State Department,
00:12:41.920national security issues where the vice president's travel schedules were being sent in the open air to private Ukrainian citizens.
00:12:49.720And all of these things were a major concern, especially in an area that was a hotbed to begin with and is a hotbed today.
00:18:43.160I'm sure if I had cared less about my personal safety, I would have been more specific in my correspondence and reaching out to these people.
00:19:11.340You said you felt you were running out of time.
00:19:13.940What was the time pressure for you at that point?
00:19:16.900Because now it's been well over a year.
00:19:18.620Well, I first felt the pressure to get it to the FBI because I knew there was impeachment hearings that were actively taking place that revolved around a phone call looking into former corruption from the former administration.
00:19:31.380And I knew that I had seen that corruption.
00:19:33.840So getting the laptop to the FBI without them knowing that I was without giving the illusion or the appearance of political motivation.
00:19:44.520I mean, regardless of what side of the aisle you're on, having the nation have to endure its third impeachment is an embarrassment.
00:20:09.580So the group of people that had grown substantially that actually knew I had this and knew I was actively trying to get this to people's attention.
00:20:17.280And that worried me because now instead of just a couple of Secret Service guys threatening to keep me quiet, now I had federal agencies that were obviously operating against what I had envisioned their mission to be.
00:21:57.180The FBI, we all know now, is corrupt to the bone.
00:22:03.380And your caution, I have to tell you, was entirely, I mean, it was, I'm sure you know this, but you had to also be concerned that you were being a bit paranoid when in point of fact you were being absolutely rational and fearful of the correct part of our government that gives you every reason to be fearful.
00:22:25.740Your thought on that as you are now approaching election day, you can't get anyone to pay attention, and you actually have, I believe it was on October 29th, days before the election, you have all of these 50, 51 veterans of the intelligence community saying it's all, it's all Russian disinformation.
00:22:59.080Well, first off, haven't they ever seen a hat I wear?
00:23:02.200I mean, if this is what the SSB is putting out, then we're in trouble because there's going to be a whole bunch of kilted double agents running around soon.
00:23:12.100Because it's just, I don't, I just don't understand.
00:23:31.560So for the entirety of the Cold War, there have been Mac Isaacs flying planes and killing communists.
00:23:36.800So to be labeled a Russian hacker or a Russian agent or a stooge of Putin is almost comical.
00:23:46.200But when people don't know who I am and I'm not given a platform or the opportunity to defend myself, then it's quite possible.
00:23:55.440And when you have 51 intelligence agencies, you have legacy and mainstream media, and then the truth is blocked on social, then that's the image that was painted of me.
00:24:11.440And we can thank, you know, big government.
00:24:15.820Again, they shut down the American people.
00:24:20.320And it's just, to me, disgusting what they did and got away with and what so many people want them to get away with now.
00:24:30.880There are more people who want to just walk away from this and say, well, let's not worry about what Twitter did.
00:24:35.860They shut down the president of the United States.
00:24:38.260They shut down the New York Post when it was reporting accurately what had happened to that laptop and what its contents were and shut down the New York Post's access to social media, which would have given the entire country some knowledge of what was in that computer.
00:25:00.600What did you think when Twitter shuts down, social media shuts down, the New York Post, which is the only organization that's actually done anything about that laptop that you've been trying to get authorities to pay attention to?
00:25:17.700Well, I think October 14th, when the New York Post story broke and I was outed, and by 930 in the morning, there was a complete iron curtain that descended across the media sphere over the subject.
00:25:32.660I realized for the first time how deep this rabbit hole went, because that's something that's a coordinated effort.
00:25:41.180And when there was testimony later, a couple weeks later, Dorsey and Zuckerberg and the nice fellow from Google were brought up before Congress to testify, and Zuckerberg brought up a very good point.
00:25:57.120He said that late in the summer, the FBI had approached Facebook, Google, and Twitter to warn them about a possible mass document dump of Russian disinformation right before the election.
00:26:25.200Was the FBI spying on Bob Costello and Rudy Giuliani's office, and that's how they found out that this new cache of data was going to be dumped?
00:26:55.720He was my only point of contact with Giuliani's office.
00:27:00.140And so how do you feel about Giuliani, his response, and Costello?
00:27:06.400You know, I am grateful for the fact that after spending almost a year trying to get people's attention with this, that Bob Costello responded to my plea for help.
00:27:18.140And I felt like I had done what I had to do.
00:27:45.700Next thing I know, I have Wilmington police guarding my shop every time I'm there.
00:27:49.760Granted, it was only for about two, three weeks until I had to close up the shop and flee the state.
00:27:53.720Still, it's, you know, for what I needed to do for my personal safety and security, I'm grateful for Bob Costello and ultimately Rudy Giuliani's office for basically putting, eventually getting my name out there, even though it was by accident.
00:28:13.720I mean, I would never have been able to go to the post by myself.
00:28:17.120And I never wanted to go to the media.
00:28:19.000It was not the proper course of action in my mind.
00:28:22.740There's systems and services in place for us to voice our concerns and to share our suspected criminality with these federal administrations.
00:28:35.300Did you ever regret not going to the news media almost to begin with?
00:29:38.540You have appealed everywhere you possibly could.
00:29:41.860And then you see, going into the election, that the media curtain of silence, the darkness descends around Twitter, around Facebook, around every major corporate news outlet.
00:30:03.320And yet, there's the New York Post, and they have now been shut down by Twitter.
00:30:08.520At that point, did you think the entire world had gone mad, was consumed by evil?
00:30:15.900What were your thoughts and your emotional reaction at that moment to see how global the corruption was, how global the threats were?
00:30:28.420Well, I remember my buddy calling me up on October 14th, and he said, dude, you broke the internet.
00:30:35.640So, I figured that had a lot of gravity to it.
00:30:40.060And again, I still am amazed at the depth that people have gone to, that continue to go to, to pervert or cloud the story and the contents of that drive.
00:30:56.600So, it's, now I look back on it, it's like, oh, this seems normal.
00:31:01.580But at first, it was like, you can't write this in a spy novel.
00:31:05.320It is a spy novel, and it's nonfiction.
00:32:03.680And then the state police handed it to the Delaware's district attorney who then handed it over to the FBI.
00:32:10.360Supposedly, that's the rumor I have around that.
00:32:13.740And then, what, the FBI raided Giuliani the following April and still didn't take Hunter's drive.
00:32:20.220So it's kind of like how many, I've run out of fingers on how many times the FBI has been given the opportunity to take evidence and act upon it.
00:32:29.000And, you know, I've got to start counting toes.
00:32:31.140Yeah, it's really an incredible story to think that at that particular time, contemporaneously, just to keep a couple events in focus, that Eric Post breaks the story and the curtain of darkness descends on them, on the American people.
00:32:54.000The story is blocked from every avenue.
00:32:58.440The FBI is complicit in the Russian disinformation narrative that has been spun up since really 2015 and 2016 and the Clinton campaign and DNC dossier that they created.
00:33:22.780And it permeates all of all of the major agencies for five for really five years.
00:33:32.000It's a remarkable tale and a plot against the president that is that longstanding and that he withstood.
00:33:42.120I truly have to say to you, I don't know another man on earth who could have stood up to what President Trump stood up to in the course of his presidency.
00:33:53.720He survives an attempt to shut down his campaign.
00:33:58.020The Bidens are running full force with everything they've got to join with the Democratic National Committee, the Democratic machine, the deep state, the permanent bureaucracy.
00:34:12.500If anyone doubts the complicity, the cooperation, the orchestration of the deep state and their Marxist Democratic Party, all they have to do is look at what happened to those laptops that Hunter Biden handed you.
00:34:29.700For the FBI to have been utterly silent and refused to take a look at it is stunning.
00:34:37.960It shows absolute complicity, in my opinion, on the part of the FBI and the Justice Department.
00:34:45.580Because, remember, at the same time, Bill Barr, the Attorney General of the United States, acknowledges he knew Biden was lying in that third debate when he talked about the laptop and denied it.
00:34:57.460When he used Russian disinformation as a shield to protect his son and the contents of that laptop, he knew exactly what he was doing.
00:35:08.340And so did Bill Barr, the Attorney General of the United States, who refused, as he put it, to intervene in the 2020 presidential election.
00:35:44.480Well, this was a real story with real consequences.
00:35:48.940And one of those just happened to be the destruction and canceling of my life.
00:35:53.500And when did you finally have to shut your shop?
00:35:59.980Well, the death threats were piling up and then customers weren't coming in anymore, except there were shady people were coming in without computers.
00:36:07.920So I figured it was time to get out of Dodge.
00:36:09.860So I closed up the shop November 2nd and I left my house, hid in a friend's house until November 5th and then flew to Colorado, where I hid out for the better part of the year.
00:36:20.740And do you have plans to reopen a shop?
00:36:26.420I don't think that would be advisable.
00:36:30.020I definitely don't want to give the opportunity for complete strangers to know how to get a hold of me right now.
00:36:47.440Well, it's also very understandable and very wise.
00:36:52.620Let's go to some other questions you might have of the FBI.
00:36:56.080Because we've watched FBI director after FBI director show himself to be less than concerned about national security, the national interest, the public's right to know, and indeed dismissive of Congress's responsibility of oversight over the Justice Department and the FBI.
00:37:20.600Well, I guess the biggest question I have for the FBI is, you know, why did I go through everything I went through to get you guys a laptop that wasn't submitted as evidence to an impeachment trial?
00:37:31.420Well, that for me is the most, and again, it doesn't matter what side of the aisle you're on, if you love Trump or you hated him, the national embarrassment of the Congress elected by the people basically firing the president.
00:37:48.540It's just, it's happened three times in our country now, and it didn't need to, it really didn't need to.
00:37:53.680So that's, that's the biggest question I have is why didn't you act on this evidence when it, when this country needed it the most?
00:38:03.320So the other questions I have is, you know, why was it put under a money laundering subpoena?
00:38:10.300I mean, it doesn't, my concerns had nothing to do with money laundering.
00:38:15.600They had to do with national security concerns, my personal safety.
00:38:21.060It just seems like it was handled in a way that was inappropriate for evidence.
00:38:27.520Why was I being called up after they collected the laptop multiple times to provide them with tech support over the phone?
00:38:34.180Um, why, why did not, why did the laptop not go to a lab outside of DC where people that make a lot more money than me get to spend their time doing that kind of stuff all day?
00:38:44.940I, that's, that's a question I'd love answered.
00:38:47.360Why did they tell me that, uh, if somebody comes looking for it, representing Hunter, that they need to, I need to give them a call and to stall whoever's looking for it, give them 24 hours and they'll return it.
00:38:58.280Why would they tell me that if this thing isn't in a position to be returned to the original owner?
00:39:02.720And, and ultimately, why did they care more about protecting Hunter Biden and what was on that laptop?
00:39:08.640And they cared about protecting, protecting me from the repercussions and the fallout of what I knew and what I see.
00:39:16.480I think, yeah, I think I'm afraid of the answers to all of them, uh, because it says too much about how corrupt our government is.
00:39:24.980Uh, it says too much about the values that are the hallmark of, uh, the bureaucrats that now make up our government.
00:39:33.320Uh, we know about the Marxist left, uh, cabal that runs academia, colleges and universities that now is trying to take control, total control of our public education system.
00:39:46.600Um, you talk about your, uh, your uncle and your, your father and serving their service to the nation, but what they fought for is not what we have right now is.
00:39:55.960Well, um, I can tell you that my father has become so disenfranchised with, with, uh, Washington DC.
00:40:04.680And this is a man that for 31 years blindly wrote a check up into and including his life for the defense of this country and its systems.
00:40:12.880Um, and to have one goal and one goal only, and that was to make sure whatever I was involved in, I was protected and safe because he's a father and that's what fathers do for their kids.
00:40:29.360He was in, and it's, uh, it's definitely affected him and it breaks my heart because he deserves more out of the country that he gave so much for.
00:40:36.680Uh, you know, it's, it is just, at times it's just impossible to comprehend the depth to which, uh, this government has descended and let's be very clear.
00:40:49.780Uh, in, in my opinion, I'll be very clear.
00:40:52.800Uh, the democratic party has immense responsibility for this.
00:41:15.800Uh, I don't know what the future holds, but I do know this, that the democratic party is, has been exposed to all of the, all the country, uh, to all Americans for what it is.
00:41:28.280Now, those who choose to see what's before them, uh, that's another choice that has to be made, but there's a reason that so many people say this country.
00:41:36.400Over 70% said the country's headed in the wrong direction.
00:41:40.160My guess is the percentage is even higher.
00:41:42.740And much of it springs from the corruption that, uh, was the evidence of which was, uh, handed to you back in April of 2019.
00:41:51.980Uh, and by the way, did the grand jury in Delaware ever interview you?
00:42:01.720And, and, uh, I don't know why I had nothing to do with his business dealings.
00:42:06.520I mean, outside of Hunter not paying an $85 bill.
00:42:10.000I mean, that's, that's, I don't think that's, uh, would merit the grand jury.
00:42:15.340Let me, let me ask you also about Jack Maxey.
00:42:18.100Did he ever talk to you or do approach you?
00:42:20.060Uh, not, well, he, he actually did approach me, approach me on March 17th of this year.
00:42:28.360He wanted to know if I wanted to fly out to Switzerland and bring a copy of, uh, uh, my copy of the Hunter Biden hard drive.
00:42:37.740And I, it kind of struck me as odd because I know because he's been reporting on it for a previous year and a half that he had, had obtained his own copy.
00:42:48.480The, the problem I had was he's talking about wanting to do a data recovery from my drive, but he's also already talked about recovering 450 gigs of data from another drive.
00:43:02.380So, um, I, I think he's, I think he has his hands on another laptop because, uh, the laptop that I was in possession of that I did the recovery from, uh, only had a 250 gig drive and he's claiming he recovered an additional 130 gigs of deleted compressed data.
00:43:21.800And I, we already have verified 220 gigs.
00:43:26.440So when you do the math, it's 350 gigs, it's a hundred gigs more than it could physically fit on the laptop that was in my possession.
00:43:33.080So I'm not really exactly sure on what's going on.
00:43:38.120Um, I've, I've, uh, reached out to him to try to get some clarification just so that the waters don't get on either than they already are.
00:43:47.260Uh, have yet to get confirmation on any of the questions I've asked.
00:43:50.660Uh, I am concerned because there has been attempts in the past to, um, make it look like there's data that has come from the laptop that actually hasn't.
00:44:02.200And it all seems to be an effort to discredit the laptop on a whole.
00:44:06.440So I never thought I'd imagine saying this, but I, I have made it my mission now to protect the integrity of the hundred byte and hard drive, even though it's garbage and it's disgusting.
00:44:17.660It's, it's important that the integrity is maintained because it was acquired lawfully.
00:44:31.980So the evidence on that computer was lawfully acquired.
00:44:35.480If there's something going on where there's this mysterious 450 gigs of new data and it wasn't lawfully acquired,
00:44:43.220but it's being sold as coming off of the drive that was once in my possession, that could mean some very horrible things further down the road.
00:44:54.700Cause if it's hacked material, then it can't be admitted as evidence.
00:44:59.460And, and, and what I understand you to be saying is that you believe that Jack Maxey, uh, has in his possession, a separate laptop from the one that you, uh, recovered.
00:45:14.660And that's the only logical explanation because the, uh, the laws of physics would not allow that much data to come off of a drive.
00:45:23.060And, and, and the, really all it would take is if you look at the subpoena, uh, that the FBI issued me in December 9th, 2019, the serial number for that machine is clearly visible.
00:45:34.620And you can go to apple.com serial number, look up, whatever, type that number in, and it'll tell you that it only has a 250 gig drive.
00:45:47.980So that's why if it's another laptop, then he needs to come clean with that because how he acquired that laptop could change the narrative.
00:45:57.800But if he's claiming it's my laptop and then it's later proven that that data was actually hacked from an iCloud account or was hacked from a stolen computer, then that could paint the whole lot.
00:46:10.540For, for whatever reason, Maxey seems to have retired from, uh, uh, at least the front pages for a while here.
00:46:18.880Uh, I haven't talked to him, uh, but going to the issue of the, the laptop that might be in his possession, again, underlined might be, uh, there was one stolen, uh, we know because, uh, Hunter Biden said it was stolen by a Russian drug dealer.
00:46:36.560Uh, and one confiscated by his friend, psychiatrist, Keith Abloh.
00:46:41.740I mean, there are quite a few, uh, in, uh, uh, seemingly out there right now, uh, for two that were in water damaged and, uh, carrying all sorts of, uh, important and, uh, you know, uh, information that, uh, should be, I would think, uh, held very closely.
00:47:04.220Well, again, I, I imagine that there would be a security, uh, secret service detail that was specifically in charge of making sure all the electronic devices for the potential first family is going to be wrangled in.
00:47:18.080And, and especially if you have a member of that family that might have a track record of behavior that you might want to pay closer attention to their electronic devices.
00:47:26.520You would think that there would be some level of, uh, security, but it's, he walked in and he dropped it off.
00:47:33.760It was a 2018 is technically it's a 2017 MacBook pro.
00:47:38.080It was purchased in the, he set it up in October of 2018.
00:47:41.940Uh, the data on it looked like it had been migrated as far back as 2010, I believe 10 or 12.
00:47:47.700So this, this is probably his fourth or fifth laptop in line or progression and from him coming in with three liquid damage max at the same time, just tells me that he's not very careful with his technology.
00:47:59.880So I imagine there's, there could be quite a bit of his electronic devices scattered around the globe at this point.
00:48:05.700That is frightening indeed, because that means if we're in the hands of the Russians, it's in the hands of the Chinese.
00:48:13.880If it's in their hands, it's likely in the hands of the Iranians.
00:48:17.260And so it goes, hence my national security concerns.
00:48:22.400He had, he had direct communication with the state department.
00:48:25.560The state department was his genie lamp.
00:48:27.360Whenever the oligarchs in Ukraine needed him to do something, get them visas, uh, put pressure on, uh, the Ukrainian government to back off.
00:48:37.240That was the line of communication, at least until blue star strategies took over.
00:48:42.500So, you know, the, the, the stuff that's on that laptop envelops a broader range than just the FBI.
00:48:50.000And now there's, there could possibly be other links to other agencies on there.
00:48:54.840And I hope that the people that are doing the deep dive on this laptop are keeping the data authentic and not trying to dilute it or pervert it.
00:49:05.700Well, I think you and I both know that, uh, uh, just a wild stab at something here.
00:49:10.660Did you ever see, uh, any mention of bio labs in Ukraine research?
00:49:20.320I, I wanted to focus mainly on what, what the Ukrainians were buying.
00:49:25.940And, uh, the, I believe in doing the research after it came out, I took a look, it looked like it was more of the U S was trying to get into the Ukraine for, for biomedicine, as opposed to the Ukraine's doing something with bio.
00:49:42.220Um, so I, it's, again, it's, it's, it wasn't part of my initial focus and, uh, what, what had my attention.
00:49:48.920I was more concerned about the, the blatant pay for play.
00:49:53.060And there's enough in there for all sorts of, uh, avenues, uh, of concern and, and, and questioning as you, as you played out, but you did see some sign that, uh, that the United States was interested in getting into Ukraine.
00:50:08.060With bio research, uh, Hunter was, uh, it was definitely talked about.
00:50:15.560It's, uh, it's a fascinating story, John.
00:50:22.080Uh, I, I think your book is a bestseller, uh, as of right now.
00:50:27.100Uh, and we just want everybody to remember, uh, to, uh, stand by for pre-order because it's, uh, it's going to be, uh, it's going to be a blockbuster.
00:50:39.780And, uh, and we sincerely wish that for you.
00:50:43.940Let's, let's kind of conclude here, if we may, uh, with your thoughts about, are there questions that I should have asked that I didn't?
00:50:51.880I, you know, that's always, uh, uh, an interviewer's worst fear, but, uh, any questions that you would prefer that I, uh, had asked that I didn't?
00:51:01.880Well, I'm, I'm still getting used to this interview game.
00:51:05.500It's, uh, this is definitely a life I've never wanted, never sought after, and, and still part of me wants nothing to do with.
00:51:14.780Uh, but I also know that if I want to continue to fight to get the truth out and to keep the truth honorable, uh, this is, this is what I have to do.
00:51:23.040Well, it is, I think you're right to do it.
00:51:26.880And I appreciate you having the confidence in us to come here and talk with us and talk with this audience.
00:51:44.160Uh, and we will be, uh, last question I want to ask is, do you think that Hunter possibly was working for one of these government agencies, uh, our government or anyone else's?
00:51:57.600Um, no, I, I think, I think the agencies that were involved knew exactly what Hunter's position was as a bag man and, and they allowed it to happen.
00:52:09.580I, I don't think, um, I don't think Hunter was working directly for any, definitely any intelligence agency.
00:52:18.160If anything, he was probably making nightmares for the intelligence community.
00:52:22.020Um, I, I just think he, uh, you know, his, his dad decided one day that son, you're going to make, make the money for the family.
00:52:44.220Uh, John, Paul, McIsaac, uh, you're, you're a great American.
00:52:50.260And, uh, and, uh, and I, and I have to say, I deeply admire your strength, uh, your integrity, uh, and your perseverance, uh, uh, God bless you.
00:53:00.320And we have a convention here on this show.
00:53:03.360We always give our guests the last word, uh, and here is your mom.
00:53:09.320Well, uh, I want to just thank everybody that's given me the support this far.
00:53:13.780Uh, the irony is that no matter what they took away from me, uh, the strength of the support has given me the strength to continue to fight.
00:53:23.300And I, I want to thank everybody for that support because I probably wouldn't be here without it.
00:53:37.400And, uh, I know everyone appreciates it and appreciates hearing, uh, your side of the story and, uh, all of us here at the great America show are deeply grateful.
00:53:52.680John is a great American principled and brave.
00:53:55.080As you've just heard, he did his level best to do what any citizen would be expected to do to see something.
00:54:02.600Then say something, but at that moment, too few Americans believe the level of our government's corruption.
00:54:09.580John and honest government could have preserved the arc of history and the American way, but corruption among the powerful in this country is at unprecedented and pervasive levels.
00:54:21.440Evil won out over the good and God fearing during that period.
00:54:26.340But that was only then and only that fight.
00:54:29.420And now we fight again and still we fight for truth, justice, and the American way.